Talk:Ronin - Revision history

Dizbukhapeter at 05:11, 8 May 2012

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	They could have been East German during the Cold War. --[[User:Cool-breeze\|cool-breeze]] 23:45, 22 February 2011 (UTC)		They could have been East German during the Cold War. --[[User:Cool-breeze\|cool-breeze]] 23:45, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

			In the coliseum when Vincent and Sam confront the German, one of the German ask where he knew Vincent from. Vincent answers that he recognizes him from Berlin. I think its safe to assume these guys are German.

	== Organizing ==		== Organizing ==

MT2008 at 17:27, 20 November 2011

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	~~In the ambush scene, the Kalashnikov looks like an AK pistol of some sort, but full-auto.~~		==The 1911==
	~~Either that or the guy removed the flash hider dohicky.~~

			Minor point - I edited the page to say that Sam's "1911" is actually the [[M1911_pistol_series#Colt_MK_IV_Series_80\|Colt M1991A1 Series 80]]. PropStore had this same gun (deactivated for sale to U.K. customers, before recent changes in the laws there) on sale about 5 years ago, along with the Beretta 92FS Inox that was used by Vincent. I probably should have edited the page to reflect this information much sooner (given that ''[[Ronin]]'' is one of our most popular pages and I usually keep abreast of what PropStore has on sale), but I didn't get a chance. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 11:27, 20 November 2011 (CST)

	== Unknown Rocket Launcher ==		== Unknown Rocket Launcher ==

MT2008: /* Spence's Gun */

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	::I think it is a P229, you can see the diagonal step in the frame above the trigger of the double stack pistols, which the P239 doesn't have. Isn't that clear though so might be wrong. Anyone have the bluray? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)		::I think it is a P229, you can see the diagonal step in the frame above the trigger of the double stack pistols, which the P239 doesn't have. Isn't that clear though so might be wrong. Anyone have the bluray? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)
	::I tend to agree with Commando. I think it's a P229 as well. I think that diagonal line on the frame IS the step for the widened part of the frame for the double stack magazines. The P239 definitely has no visible lines on the right side of the frame. Also, the P229 has a longer, slightly more prominent hammer spur like the one seen in the pic, whereas the P239 has a considerably shorter, more low-profile hammer spur. And that looks like a stainless steel finish rather than nickle-plated, which have been available on most SIG pistols for many years including both the P229 and P239. A good determining factor would be a better view of the trigger guard as they have slightly different shapes on the P229 vis the P239, but that part may be tucked too far into the trousers to see on any pic. --[[User:Travestytrav\|Travestytrav]] 20:31, 16 November 2011 (CST)		::I tend to agree with Commando. I think it's a P229 as well. I think that diagonal line on the frame IS the step for the widened part of the frame for the double stack magazines. The P239 definitely has no visible lines on the right side of the frame. Also, the P229 has a longer, slightly more prominent hammer spur like the one seen in the pic, whereas the P239 has a considerably shorter, more low-profile hammer spur. And that looks like a stainless steel finish rather than nickle-plated, which have been available on most SIG pistols for many years including both the P229 and P239. A good determining factor would be a better view of the trigger guard as they have slightly different shapes on the P229 vis the P239, but that part may be tucked too far into the trousers to see on any pic. --[[User:Travestytrav\|Travestytrav]] 20:31, 16 November 2011 (CST)

			:::I have this movie on Blu-ray now, and you guys are right - it is indeed a P229, contrary to my expectations. Surprised I missed the bulges on the frame indicating a 229 (or any SIG pistol taking a double-stack magazine). But it's not a factory two-tone job - it must have been a regular blued 229 that had its slide re-finished. Otherwise, as I said earlier, it would have nickel controls as well as slide. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 11:12, 20 November 2011 (CST)

Travestytrav: /* Spence's Gun */

2011-11-17T02:31:19Z

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	:I really can't tell if this is a P229, but I would guess not. The factory two-tone P229 available in those days had nickel controls (though it could also be a blued 229 with an after-market nickel finish on the slide). But I would guess that this is more likely to be the P239 that is also used by Seamus. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 16:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)		:I really can't tell if this is a P229, but I would guess not. The factory two-tone P229 available in those days had nickel controls (though it could also be a blued 229 with an after-market nickel finish on the slide). But I would guess that this is more likely to be the P239 that is also used by Seamus. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 16:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)
	::I think it is a P229, you can see the diagonal step in the frame above the trigger of the double stack pistols, which the P239 doesn't have. Isn't that clear though so might be wrong. Anyone have the bluray? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)		::I think it is a P229, you can see the diagonal step in the frame above the trigger of the double stack pistols, which the P239 doesn't have. Isn't that clear though so might be wrong. Anyone have the bluray? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)
	::I tend to agree with Commando. I think it's a P229 as well. I think that diagonal line on the frame IS the step for the widened part of the frame for the double stack magazines. The P239 definitely has no visible lines on the right side of the frame. Also, the P229 has a longer, slightly more prominent hammer spur like the one seen in the pic, whereas the P239 has a considerably shorter, more low-profile hammer spur. And that looks like a stainless steel finish rather than nickle-plated, which have been available on most SIG pistols for many years including both the P229 and P239. A good determining factor would be a better view of the trigger guard as they have slightly different shapes on the P229 vis the P239, but that part may be tucked too far into the trousers to see on any pic.		::I tend to agree with Commando. I think it's a P229 as well. I think that diagonal line on the frame IS the step for the widened part of the frame for the double stack magazines. The P239 definitely has no visible lines on the right side of the frame. Also, the P229 has a longer, slightly more prominent hammer spur like the one seen in the pic, whereas the P239 has a considerably shorter, more low-profile hammer spur. And that looks like a stainless steel finish rather than nickle-plated, which have been available on most SIG pistols for many years including both the P229 and P239. A good determining factor would be a better view of the trigger guard as they have slightly different shapes on the P229 vis the P239, but that part may be tucked too far into the trousers to see on any pic. --[[User:Travestytrav\|Travestytrav]] 20:31, 16 November 2011 (CST)

Travestytrav: /* Spence's Gun */

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	:I really can't tell if this is a P229, but I would guess not. The factory two-tone P229 available in those days had nickel controls (though it could also be a blued 229 with an after-market nickel finish on the slide). But I would guess that this is more likely to be the P239 that is also used by Seamus. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 16:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)		:I really can't tell if this is a P229, but I would guess not. The factory two-tone P229 available in those days had nickel controls (though it could also be a blued 229 with an after-market nickel finish on the slide). But I would guess that this is more likely to be the P239 that is also used by Seamus. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 16:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)
	::I think it is a P229, you can see the diagonal step in the frame above the trigger of the double stack pistols, which the P239 doesn't have. Isn't that clear though so might be wrong. Anyone have the bluray? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)		::I think it is a P229, you can see the diagonal step in the frame above the trigger of the double stack pistols, which the P239 doesn't have. Isn't that clear though so might be wrong. Anyone have the bluray? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)
			::I tend to agree with Commando. I think it's a P229 as well. I think that diagonal line on the frame IS the step for the widened part of the frame for the double stack magazines. The P239 definitely has no visible lines on the right side of the frame. Also, the P229 has a longer, slightly more prominent hammer spur like the one seen in the pic, whereas the P239 has a considerably shorter, more low-profile hammer spur. And that looks like a stainless steel finish rather than nickle-plated, which have been available on most SIG pistols for many years including both the P229 and P239. A good determining factor would be a better view of the trigger guard as they have slightly different shapes on the P229 vis the P239, but that part may be tucked too far into the trousers to see on any pic.

Commando552: /* Spence's Gun */

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	:I really can't tell if this is a P229, but I would guess not. The factory two-tone P229 available in those days had nickel controls (though it could also be a blued 229 with an after-market nickel finish on the slide). But I would guess that this is more likely to be the P239 that is also used by Seamus. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 16:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)		:I really can't tell if this is a P229, but I would guess not. The factory two-tone P229 available in those days had nickel controls (though it could also be a blued 229 with an after-market nickel finish on the slide). But I would guess that this is more likely to be the P239 that is also used by Seamus. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 16:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)
			::I think it is a P229, you can see the diagonal step in the frame above the trigger of the double stack pistols, which the P239 doesn't have. Isn't that clear though so might be wrong. Anyone have the bluray? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)

MT2008: /* Spence's Gun */

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	Spence's pistol that is taken by Sam when he ambushes him with the coffee looks like a two tone Sig Sauer [[Special:Contributions/88.111.101.90\|88.111.101.90]] 19:29, 23 March 2011 (CDT)		Spence's pistol that is taken by Sam when he ambushes him with the coffee looks like a two tone Sig Sauer [[Special:Contributions/88.111.101.90\|88.111.101.90]] 19:29, 23 March 2011 (CDT)

			[[File:Ronin_spence.jpg\|thumb\|none\|640px\|Sam reaching the Spence's gun]]

			:I really can't tell if this is a P229, but I would guess not. The factory two-tone P229 available in those days had nickel controls (though it could also be a blued 229 with an after-market nickel finish on the slide). But I would guess that this is more likely to be the P239 that is also used by Seamus. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 16:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)

Phillb36 at 02:05, 13 July 2011

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	Sorry, It is not RPG-18, nor RPG-26 - both has completly different front sight.		Sorry, It is not RPG-18, nor RPG-26 - both has completly different front sight.
	:Moved from main page.--[[User:Predator20\|Predator20]] 23:05, 21 December 2009 (UTC)		:Moved from main page.--[[User:Predator20\|Predator20]] 23:05, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

			Is it possible the rocket launcher is the French SARPAC? [http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/hybenamon/LAND/INFANTRY/M72%20LAW/SARPAC.jpg]
			Wikipedia Entry: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarpac]--[[User:Phillb36\|Phillb36]] 21:05, 12 July 2011 (CDT)

	== Heckler & Koch Rifle ==		== Heckler & Koch Rifle ==

88.111.101.90 at 00:29, 24 March 2011

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	* I removed the "M" from "Beretta M93R" because there is no such thing only in Modern Warfare 2		* I removed the "M" from "Beretta M93R" because there is no such thing only in Modern Warfare 2
	[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 20:24, 9 March 2011 (MSK)		[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 20:24, 9 March 2011 (MSK)

			==Spence's Gun==

			Spence's pistol that is taken by Sam when he ambushes him with the coffee looks like a two tone Sig Sauer [[Special:Contributions/88.111.101.90\|88.111.101.90]] 19:29, 23 March 2011 (CDT)

Bozitojugg3rn4ut at 17:24, 9 March 2011

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	I'm just organizing some pages. I'm not changing the text or screencaps, but I'm anal and I am grouping the firearms by type. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 21:41, 9 May 2010 (UTC)		I'm just organizing some pages. I'm not changing the text or screencaps, but I'm anal and I am grouping the firearms by type. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 21:41, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

			== Correction ==
			I made some corrections to the main page:
			* The Beretta 92FS Inox was listed as "Beretta Inox" only
			* I removed the "M" from "Beretta M93R" because there is no such thing only in Modern Warfare 2
			[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 20:24, 9 March 2011 (MSK)

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	::I think it is a P229, you can see the diagonal step in the frame above the trigger of the double stack pistols, which the P239 doesn't have. Isn't that clear though so might be wrong. Anyone have the bluray? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)		::I think it is a P229, you can see the diagonal step in the frame above the trigger of the double stack pistols, which the P239 doesn't have. Isn't that clear though so might be wrong. Anyone have the bluray? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:32, 16 November 2011 (CST)
	::I tend to agree with Commando. I think it's a P229 as well. I think that diagonal line on the frame IS the step for the widened part of the frame for the double stack magazines. The P239 definitely has no visible lines on the right side of the frame. Also, the P229 has a longer, slightly more prominent hammer spur like the one seen in the pic, whereas the P239 has a considerably shorter, more low-profile hammer spur. And that looks like a stainless steel finish rather than nickle-plated, which have been available on most SIG pistols for many years including both the P229 and P239. A good determining factor would be a better view of the trigger guard as they have slightly different shapes on the P229 vis the P239, but that part may be tucked too far into the trousers to see on any pic. --[[User:Travestytrav\|Travestytrav]] 20:31, 16 November 2011 (CST)		::I tend to agree with Commando. I think it's a P229 as well. I think that diagonal line on the frame IS the step for the widened part of the frame for the double stack magazines. The P239 definitely has no visible lines on the right side of the frame. Also, the P229 has a longer, slightly more prominent hammer spur like the one seen in the pic, whereas the P239 has a considerably shorter, more low-profile hammer spur. And that looks like a stainless steel finish rather than nickle-plated, which have been available on most SIG pistols for many years including both the P229 and P239. A good determining factor would be a better view of the trigger guard as they have slightly different shapes on the P229 vis the P239, but that part may be tucked too far into the trousers to see on any pic. --[[User:Travestytrav\|Travestytrav]] 20:31, 16 November 2011 (CST)

			:::I have this movie on Blu-ray now, and you guys are right - it is indeed a P229, contrary to my expectations. Surprised I missed the bulges on the frame indicating a 229 (or any SIG pistol taking a double-stack magazine). But it's not a factory two-tone job - it must have been a regular blued 229 that had its slide re-finished. Otherwise, as I said earlier, it would have nickel controls as well as slide. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 11:12, 20 November 2011 (CST)