https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3APlatoonTalk:Platoon - Revision history2026-06-08T04:55:12ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.41.0https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Platoon&diff=1209339&oldid=prevGreg-Z: /* Unknown rifle */2018-08-30T08:44:30Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Unknown rifle</span></span></p>
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</table>Dudster32https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Platoon&diff=1209266&oldid=prevBen41 at 01:57, 30 August 20182018-08-30T01:57:45Z<p></p>
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</table>Funkychinamanhttps://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Platoon&diff=1003534&oldid=prevStanTheMan: /* Elias name */2016-02-15T19:30:58Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Elias name</span></span></p>
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</table>StanTheManhttps://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Platoon&diff=1003510&oldid=prevFunkychinaman at 15:36, 15 February 20162016-02-15T15:36:17Z<p></p>
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</table>Funkychinamanhttps://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Platoon&diff=1003509&oldid=prevFunkychinaman at 15:32, 15 February 20162016-02-15T15:32:27Z<p></p>
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</table>Funkychinamanhttps://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Platoon&diff=1003421&oldid=prevFunkychinaman at 22:59, 14 February 20162016-02-14T22:59:15Z<p></p>
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</table>Funkychinamanhttps://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Platoon&diff=1003407&oldid=prevStanTheMan: /* Elias name */2016-02-14T19:43:53Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Elias name</span></span></p>
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</table>StanTheManhttps://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Platoon&diff=1003226&oldid=prevFunkychinaman at 13:38, 14 February 20162016-02-14T13:38:47Z<p></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">TL;DR version: The name "Elias Grodin" isn't found in the movie or the scripts, and more importantly, it makes no sense. Since IMDb still has it as "Sgt Elias" as well, I think we should keep it at SGT Elias. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 08:38, 14 February 2016 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr>
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