Talk:Pet Sematary Two - Revision history

StanTheMan: /* Unknown */

2016-11-01T06:35:44Z

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	: Well the Model 67 is easily ruled out, as they, like their Model 15 counterparts, only have tapered barrels with adjustable rear and large ramp front sights. But between the Model 64 and 65 it is very understandable that it's tricky to nail down - The .38 Model 64 and .357 Model 65 are practically identical-looking except for the cylinder. The .38 only K-frame cylinders are shorter and thus sport a slightly - but noticeably - larger gap between cylinder and barrel. As for the rifle, the straight yet rather sharply angled bolt handle makes me lean to sticking with the Winchester. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:08, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		: Well the Model 67 is easily ruled out, as they, like their Model 15 counterparts, only have tapered barrels with adjustable rear and large ramp front sights. But between the Model 64 and 65 it is very understandable that it's tricky to nail down - The .38 Model 64 and .357 Model 65 are practically identical-looking except for the cylinder. The .38 only K-frame cylinders are shorter and thus sport a slightly - but noticeably - larger gap between cylinder and barrel. As for the rifle, the straight yet rather sharply angled bolt handle makes me lean to sticking with the Winchester. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:08, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
	Thanks very much for the info, I highly appreciate it and may find it useful in the future. I have done more comparisons on the three models, and I see the differences you have mentioned. Any way, I appreciate the help you have given in creating the page, I am glad to see that it's completed and just in time for Halloween as well.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 16:55, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		Thanks very much for the info, I highly appreciate it and may find it useful in the future. I have done more comparisons on the three models, and I see the differences you have mentioned. Any way, I appreciate the help you have given in creating the page, I am glad to see that it's completed and just in time for Halloween as well.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 16:55, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
			: No prob, Bob! Glad to be of service. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 02:35, 1 November 2016 (EDT)

	== Single Barreled Shotgun ==		== Single Barreled Shotgun ==

Alienqueen11 at 20:57, 31 October 2016

2016-10-31T20:57:04Z

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	Thanks for the revolver identification, I figured it had to be one of Smith & Wesson's, but so many of them look a like. I looked over the scene with the rifle again and got at least some view of the bolt, so hopefully it helps in identifying it. Thanks once again.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 03:12, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		Thanks for the revolver identification, I figured it had to be one of Smith & Wesson's, but so many of them look a like. I looked over the scene with the rifle again and got at least some view of the bolt, so hopefully it helps in identifying it. Thanks once again.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 03:12, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
	: Well the Model 67 is easily ruled out, as they, like their Model 15 counterparts, only have tapered barrels with adjustable rear and large ramp front sights. But between the Model 64 and 65 it is very understandable that it's tricky to nail down - The .38 Model 64 and .357 Model 65 are practically identical-looking except for the cylinder. The .38 only K-frame cylinders are shorter and thus sport a slightly - but noticeably - larger gap between cylinder and barrel. As for the rifle, the straight yet rather sharply angled bolt handle makes me lean to sticking with the Winchester. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:08, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		: Well the Model 67 is easily ruled out, as they, like their Model 15 counterparts, only have tapered barrels with adjustable rear and large ramp front sights. But between the Model 64 and 65 it is very understandable that it's tricky to nail down - The .38 Model 64 and .357 Model 65 are practically identical-looking except for the cylinder. The .38 only K-frame cylinders are shorter and thus sport a slightly - but noticeably - larger gap between cylinder and barrel. As for the rifle, the straight yet rather sharply angled bolt handle makes me lean to sticking with the Winchester. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:08, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
	Thanks very much for the info, I highly appreciate it and may find it useful in the future. I have done more comparisons on the three models, and I see the differences you have mentioned. Any way, I appreciate the help you have given in creating the page, I am glad to see that it's completed.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 16:55, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		Thanks very much for the info, I highly appreciate it and may find it useful in the future. I have done more comparisons on the three models, and I see the differences you have mentioned. Any way, I appreciate the help you have given in creating the page, I am glad to see that it's completed and just in time for Halloween as well.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 16:55, 31 October 2016 (EDT)

	== Single Barreled Shotgun ==		== Single Barreled Shotgun ==

Alienqueen11: /* Unknown */

2016-10-31T20:55:30Z

Unknown

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	Thanks for the revolver identification, I figured it had to be one of Smith & Wesson's, but so many of them look a like. I looked over the scene with the rifle again and got at least some view of the bolt, so hopefully it helps in identifying it. Thanks once again.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 03:12, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		Thanks for the revolver identification, I figured it had to be one of Smith & Wesson's, but so many of them look a like. I looked over the scene with the rifle again and got at least some view of the bolt, so hopefully it helps in identifying it. Thanks once again.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 03:12, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
	: Well the Model 67 is easily ruled out, as they, like their Model 15 counterparts, only have tapered barrels with adjustable rear and large ramp front sights. But between the Model 64 and 65 it is very understandable that it's tricky to nail down - The .38 Model 64 and .357 Model 65 are practically identical-looking except for the cylinder. The .38 only K-frame cylinders are shorter and thus sport a slightly - but noticeably - larger gap between cylinder and barrel. As for the rifle, the straight yet rather sharply angled bolt handle makes me lean to sticking with the Winchester. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:08, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		: Well the Model 67 is easily ruled out, as they, like their Model 15 counterparts, only have tapered barrels with adjustable rear and large ramp front sights. But between the Model 64 and 65 it is very understandable that it's tricky to nail down - The .38 Model 64 and .357 Model 65 are practically identical-looking except for the cylinder. The .38 only K-frame cylinders are shorter and thus sport a slightly - but noticeably - larger gap between cylinder and barrel. As for the rifle, the straight yet rather sharply angled bolt handle makes me lean to sticking with the Winchester. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:08, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
			Thanks very much for the info, I highly appreciate it and may find it useful in the future. I have done more comparisons on the three models, and I see the differences you have mentioned. Any way, I appreciate the help you have given in creating the page, I am glad to see that it's completed.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 16:55, 31 October 2016 (EDT)

	== Single Barreled Shotgun ==		== Single Barreled Shotgun ==

Greg-Z: /* Single Barreled Shotgun */

2016-10-31T19:45:01Z

Single Barreled Shotgun

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	Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
	: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the shotgun in the gun image. And many shotguns have/are fitted rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt even more its a self-loader/semiauto. Furthermore, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a 'small' rifle caliber. I still think this is more likely a single barrel break-action shotgun, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 20 or even 28 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the shotgun in the gun image. And many shotguns have/are fitted rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt even more its a self-loader/semiauto. Furthermore, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a 'small' rifle caliber. I still think this is more likely a single barrel break-action shotgun, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 20 or even 28 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
			::I have to agree, my guess was wrong. Thanks a lot for explanation. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:45, 31 October 2016 (EDT)

StanTheMan: Bah...

2016-10-31T19:20:28Z

Bah...

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	Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
	: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the gun image. And many shotguns have/are fitted rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt even more its a self-loader/semiauto. Furthermore, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a small rifle caliber. I still think this is more likely a single barrel break-action shotgun, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 28 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the shotgun in the gun image. And many shotguns have/are fitted rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt even more its a self-loader/semiauto. Furthermore, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a 'small' rifle caliber. I still think this is more likely a single barrel break-action shotgun, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 20 or even 28 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)

StanTheMan: /* Single Barreled Shotgun */

2016-10-31T19:18:32Z

Single Barreled Shotgun

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	Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
	: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the gun image. And many shotguns have rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt even more its a self-loader/semiauto. Furthermore, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a small rifle caliber. I still think this is more likely a single barrel break-action shotgun, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 20 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the gun image. And many shotguns have/are fitted rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt even more its a self-loader/semiauto. Furthermore, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a small rifle caliber. I still think this is more likely a single barrel break-action shotgun, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 28 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)

StanTheMan: /* Single Barreled Shotgun */

2016-10-31T19:17:03Z

Single Barreled Shotgun

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	Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
	: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the gun image. And many shotguns have rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt even more its a self-loader/semiauto. Furthermore, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a small rifle caliber. I still think this is ~~still~~ more likely a single barrel break-action, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 20 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the gun image. And many shotguns have rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt even more its a self-loader/semiauto. Furthermore, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a small rifle caliber. I still think this is more likely a single barrel break-action shotgun, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 20 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)

StanTheMan: /* Single Barreled Shotgun */

2016-10-31T19:16:38Z

Single Barreled Shotgun

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	Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
	: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the gun image. And many shotguns have rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt ~~further~~ its a self-loader/semiauto. Furthermore, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a small rifle caliber. I still think this is still more likely a single barrel break-action, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 20 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the gun image. And many shotguns have rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt even more its a self-loader/semiauto. Furthermore, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a small rifle caliber. I still think this is still more likely a single barrel break-action, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 20 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)

StanTheMan: /* Single Barreled Shotgun */

2016-10-31T19:16:13Z

Single Barreled Shotgun

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	Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
	: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the gun image. And many shotguns have rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt its a self-loader/semiauto~~, unless it's perhaps mag fed and is lacking the mag~~. ~~Even then~~, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a small rifle caliber. I still think this is still more likely a single barrel break-action, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 20 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the gun image. And many shotguns have rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt further its a self-loader/semiauto. Furthermore, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a small rifle caliber. I still think this is still more likely a single barrel break-action, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 20 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)

StanTheMan: /* Single Barreled Shotgun */

2016-10-31T19:15:37Z

Single Barreled Shotgun

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	Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
	: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the gun image. And many shotguns have rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt its a self-loader/semiauto, unless it's perhaps mag fed and is lacking the mag. Even then, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a small rifle caliber. I still think this is still more likely a single barrel break-action, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 20 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the gun image. And many shotguns have rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt its a self-loader/semiauto, unless it's perhaps mag fed and is lacking the mag. Even then, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a small rifle caliber. I still think this is still more likely a single barrel break-action, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 20 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)

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	Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		Yeah, I wasn't so sure what it exactly was either. It had a similar look and shape, so I just went with the assumption that's what it was. Well, if anybody has a correction, feel free to change it on the page.--[[User:Alienqueen11\|Alienqueen11]] ([[User talk:Alienqueen11\|talk]]) 13:57, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
	: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the shotgun in the gun image. And many shotguns have/are fitted rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt even more its a self-loader/semiauto. Furthermore, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a 'small' rifle caliber. I still think this is more likely a single barrel break-action shotgun, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 20 or even 28 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)		: I can't tell much about the grip, but I don't think it's that vertical, just perhaps a much sharper C curve like that on the shotgun in the gun image. And many shotguns have/are fitted rifle-style sights. That said, I can't make out any eject port/chamber at the top like there'd be a bolt-action, and I doubt even more its a self-loader/semiauto. Furthermore, the barrel still looks rather big, especially for a 'small' rifle caliber. I still think this is more likely a single barrel break-action shotgun, likely just in a smaller chambering, (probably 20 or even 28 gauge). [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 October 2016 (EDT)
			::I have to agree, my guess was wrong. Thanks a lot for explanation. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:45, 31 October 2016 (EDT)