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Atypicaloracle: /* Season 1 Episode 22 Pistol Fires Rifle Rounds */

2013-06-04T19:28:51Z

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	::Just realised I conflated several different cartridges into a non-existant one. I am aware of the pistol/carbines you mention, like the AR-15 Patriot Pistol, but thank you for confirming what I thought, that it wouldn't be possible because of the size issue. They said in the show, something to the effect of, that the black ops chappies use these pistols because it negates kevlar, so I suppose they meant the PDW rounds of HK and FN. --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 17:48, 27 May 2012 (CDT)		::Just realised I conflated several different cartridges into a non-existant one. I am aware of the pistol/carbines you mention, like the AR-15 Patriot Pistol, but thank you for confirming what I thought, that it wouldn't be possible because of the size issue. They said in the show, something to the effect of, that the black ops chappies use these pistols because it negates kevlar, so I suppose they meant the PDW rounds of HK and FN. --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 17:48, 27 May 2012 (CDT)
	:::Are you sure the pistols in question are not FN Five-seveNs? I remember thinking that that was the pistol pulled by the black ops dude before Reese disarmed him of it in the apartment.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--\|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 20:55, 27 May 2012 (CDT)		:::Are you sure the pistols in question are not FN Five-seveNs? I remember thinking that that was the pistol pulled by the black ops dude before Reese disarmed him of it in the apartment.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--\|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 20:55, 27 May 2012 (CDT)

			Actually, my first thought on that was something kind of out there: the .224 BOZ cartridge. It was originally a 10mm Auto case necked down to a .223 bullet. Down the line, they switched to a 9x19mm case. The .224 BOZ looks like a short, fat rifle cartridge; is specifically intended to defeat body armor (Reese says it "shreds body armor") and is designed to be fired in a handgun. Apparently a drop-in conversion device is in development which converts a 9x19mm pistol to .224 BOZ. Online, I've seen 1911s modified to fire it, and in at least one case, a Glock. [[User:Atypicaloracle\|Atypicaloracle]] ([[User talk:Atypicaloracle\|talk]]) 15:28, 4 June 2013 (EDT)

--JazzBlackBelt--: /* Season 1 Episode 22 Pistol Fires Rifle Rounds */

2012-05-28T01:55:36Z

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	::Just realised I conflated several different cartridges into a non-existant one. I am aware of the pistol/carbines you mention, like the AR-15 Patriot Pistol, but thank you for confirming what I thought, that it wouldn't be possible because of the size issue. They said in the show, something to the effect of, that the black ops chappies use these pistols because it negates kevlar, so I suppose they meant the PDW rounds of HK and FN. --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 17:48, 27 May 2012 (CDT)		::Just realised I conflated several different cartridges into a non-existant one. I am aware of the pistol/carbines you mention, like the AR-15 Patriot Pistol, but thank you for confirming what I thought, that it wouldn't be possible because of the size issue. They said in the show, something to the effect of, that the black ops chappies use these pistols because it negates kevlar, so I suppose they meant the PDW rounds of HK and FN. --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 17:48, 27 May 2012 (CDT)
			:::Are you sure the pistols in question are not FN Five-seveNs? I remember thinking that that was the pistol pulled by the black ops dude before Reese disarmed him of it in the apartment.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--\|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 20:55, 27 May 2012 (CDT)

Rebusdi: /* Season 1 Episode 22 Pistol Fires Rifle Rounds */

2012-05-27T22:48:34Z

Season 1 Episode 22 Pistol Fires Rifle Rounds

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	Does anyone have any idea about this. In Season 1 Episode 22 they talk about, I think it was, the Special Intelligence Activities Division using pistols chambered for rifle rounds. The pistols used by this black ops unit looked to be Glocks so I'm a bit confused. Could they be mistaking the FN 4.8x27mm in a Glock (unless they make that and I don't know about it)? Does anyone know about semi-auto pistols chambered for assault or battle rifle rounds, would it even be possible, pressure wise? Thanks --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 12:39, 27 May 2012 (CDT)		Does anyone have any idea about this. In Season 1 Episode 22 they talk about, I think it was, the Special Intelligence Activities Division using pistols chambered for rifle rounds. The pistols used by this black ops unit looked to be Glocks so I'm a bit confused. Could they be mistaking the FN 4.8x27mm in a Glock (unless they make that and I don't know about it)? Does anyone know about semi-auto pistols chambered for assault or battle rifle rounds, would it even be possible, pressure wise? Thanks --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 12:39, 27 May 2012 (CDT)
	:It would pretty much be impossible. Not even taking the pressure of full power rounds into account the geometry of it wouldn't work. The [[FN Five-seveN]] is chambered for the 5.7x28mm cartridge which has an overall length of about 1.6 inches, which is pretty much the longest round you can fit into a pistol grip and still be ergonomically viable. The shortest cartridge that I would call an assault rifle cartridge would be the 7.62x39mm, which is 2.2 inches. There is no way that you could have a pistol chambered in a full power rifle round and have it looking anything like a traditional semi auto pistol. There are "pistols" that exist chambered for full power rifle rounds, but they are either bolt actions or basically a carbine without a stock. I imagine what they meant was that the pistols were chambered in rifle calibres like the 5.7x28mm, which can use the same physical bullet as a 5.56x45mm but in a smaller case with less propellant. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 15:50, 27 May 2012 (CDT)		:It would pretty much be impossible. Not even taking the pressure of full power rounds into account the geometry of it wouldn't work. The [[FN Five-seveN]] is chambered for the 5.7x28mm cartridge which has an overall length of about 1.6 inches, which is pretty much the longest round you can fit into a pistol grip and still be ergonomically viable. The shortest cartridge that I would call an assault rifle cartridge would be the 7.62x39mm, which is 2.2 inches. There is no way that you could have a pistol chambered in a full power rifle round and have it looking anything like a traditional semi auto pistol. There are "pistols" that exist chambered for full power rifle rounds, but they are either bolt actions or basically a carbine without a stock. I imagine what they meant was that the pistols were chambered in rifle calibres like the 5.7x28mm, which can use the same physical bullet as a 5.56x45mm but in a smaller case with less propellant. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 15:50, 27 May 2012 (CDT)

			::Just realised I conflated several different cartridges into a non-existant one. I am aware of the pistol/carbines you mention, like the AR-15 Patriot Pistol, but thank you for confirming what I thought, that it wouldn't be possible because of the size issue. They said in the show, something to the effect of, that the black ops chappies use these pistols because it negates kevlar, so I suppose they meant the PDW rounds of HK and FN. --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 17:48, 27 May 2012 (CDT)

Commando552: /* Season 1 Episode 22 Pistol Fires Rifle Rounds */

2012-05-27T20:50:49Z

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	Does anyone have any idea about this. In Season 1 Episode 22 they talk about, I think it was, the Special Intelligence Activities Division using pistols chambered for rifle rounds. The pistols used by this black ops unit looked to be Glocks so I'm a bit confused. Could they be mistaking the FN 4.8x27mm in a Glock (unless they make that and I don't know about it)? Does anyone know about semi-auto pistols chambered for assault or battle rifle rounds, would it even be possible, pressure wise? Thanks --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 12:39, 27 May 2012 (CDT)		Does anyone have any idea about this. In Season 1 Episode 22 they talk about, I think it was, the Special Intelligence Activities Division using pistols chambered for rifle rounds. The pistols used by this black ops unit looked to be Glocks so I'm a bit confused. Could they be mistaking the FN 4.8x27mm in a Glock (unless they make that and I don't know about it)? Does anyone know about semi-auto pistols chambered for assault or battle rifle rounds, would it even be possible, pressure wise? Thanks --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 12:39, 27 May 2012 (CDT)
			:It would pretty much be impossible. Not even taking the pressure of full power rounds into account the geometry of it wouldn't work. The [[FN Five-seveN]] is chambered for the 5.7x28mm cartridge which has an overall length of about 1.6 inches, which is pretty much the longest round you can fit into a pistol grip and still be ergonomically viable. The shortest cartridge that I would call an assault rifle cartridge would be the 7.62x39mm, which is 2.2 inches. There is no way that you could have a pistol chambered in a full power rifle round and have it looking anything like a traditional semi auto pistol. There are "pistols" that exist chambered for full power rifle rounds, but they are either bolt actions or basically a carbine without a stock. I imagine what they meant was that the pistols were chambered in rifle calibres like the 5.7x28mm, which can use the same physical bullet as a 5.56x45mm but in a smaller case with less propellant. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 15:50, 27 May 2012 (CDT)

Rebusdi: /* Season 1 Episode 22 Pistol Fires Rifle Rounds */ new section

2012-05-27T17:39:22Z

Season 1 Episode 22 Pistol Fires Rifle Rounds: new section

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			== Season 1 Episode 22 Pistol Fires Rifle Rounds ==

			Does anyone have any idea about this. In Season 1 Episode 22 they talk about, I think it was, the Special Intelligence Activities Division using pistols chambered for rifle rounds. The pistols used by this black ops unit looked to be Glocks so I'm a bit confused. Could they be mistaking the FN 4.8x27mm in a Glock (unless they make that and I don't know about it)? Does anyone know about semi-auto pistols chambered for assault or battle rifle rounds, would it even be possible, pressure wise? Thanks --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 12:39, 27 May 2012 (CDT)

SIGman: /* Help to identify (s01e20) */

2012-04-30T21:59:45Z

Help to identify (s01e20)

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			the bottom two look like a Jericho 941 variant

Pawelm: /* Help to identify */

2012-04-28T08:31:14Z

Help to identify

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	Fusco's back-up revolver from "Flesh and Blood" looks like the [[Ruger GP100]] from "Blue Code".		Fusco's back-up revolver from "Flesh and Blood" looks like the [[Ruger GP100]] from "Blue Code".

	==Help to identify==		==Help to identify (s01e20)==

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Pawelm: /* S01E20 */

2012-04-28T08:30:52Z

S01E20

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	Fusco's back-up revolver from "Flesh and Blood" looks like the [[Ruger GP100]] from "Blue Code".		Fusco's back-up revolver from "Flesh and Blood" looks like the [[Ruger GP100]] from "Blue Code".

	~~== S01E20 ==~~

	==Help to identify==		==Help to identify==

Pawelm: /* Help to identify */

2012-04-28T08:21:30Z

Help to identify

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Pawelm: /* Help to identify */

2012-04-28T08:21:14Z

Help to identify

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	And		And

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	::Just realised I conflated several different cartridges into a non-existant one. I am aware of the pistol/carbines you mention, like the AR-15 Patriot Pistol, but thank you for confirming what I thought, that it wouldn't be possible because of the size issue. They said in the show, something to the effect of, that the black ops chappies use these pistols because it negates kevlar, so I suppose they meant the PDW rounds of HK and FN. --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 17:48, 27 May 2012 (CDT)		::Just realised I conflated several different cartridges into a non-existant one. I am aware of the pistol/carbines you mention, like the AR-15 Patriot Pistol, but thank you for confirming what I thought, that it wouldn't be possible because of the size issue. They said in the show, something to the effect of, that the black ops chappies use these pistols because it negates kevlar, so I suppose they meant the PDW rounds of HK and FN. --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 17:48, 27 May 2012 (CDT)
	:::Are you sure the pistols in question are not FN Five-seveNs? I remember thinking that that was the pistol pulled by the black ops dude before Reese disarmed him of it in the apartment.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--\|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 20:55, 27 May 2012 (CDT)		:::Are you sure the pistols in question are not FN Five-seveNs? I remember thinking that that was the pistol pulled by the black ops dude before Reese disarmed him of it in the apartment.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--\|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 20:55, 27 May 2012 (CDT)

			Actually, my first thought on that was something kind of out there: the .224 BOZ cartridge. It was originally a 10mm Auto case necked down to a .223 bullet. Down the line, they switched to a 9x19mm case. The .224 BOZ looks like a short, fat rifle cartridge; is specifically intended to defeat body armor (Reese says it "shreds body armor") and is designed to be fired in a handgun. Apparently a drop-in conversion device is in development which converts a 9x19mm pistol to .224 BOZ. Online, I've seen 1911s modified to fire it, and in at least one case, a Glock. [[User:Atypicaloracle\|Atypicaloracle]] ([[User talk:Atypicaloracle\|talk]]) 15:28, 4 June 2013 (EDT)

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	Does anyone have any idea about this. In Season 1 Episode 22 they talk about, I think it was, the Special Intelligence Activities Division using pistols chambered for rifle rounds. The pistols used by this black ops unit looked to be Glocks so I'm a bit confused. Could they be mistaking the FN 4.8x27mm in a Glock (unless they make that and I don't know about it)? Does anyone know about semi-auto pistols chambered for assault or battle rifle rounds, would it even be possible, pressure wise? Thanks --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 12:39, 27 May 2012 (CDT)		Does anyone have any idea about this. In Season 1 Episode 22 they talk about, I think it was, the Special Intelligence Activities Division using pistols chambered for rifle rounds. The pistols used by this black ops unit looked to be Glocks so I'm a bit confused. Could they be mistaking the FN 4.8x27mm in a Glock (unless they make that and I don't know about it)? Does anyone know about semi-auto pistols chambered for assault or battle rifle rounds, would it even be possible, pressure wise? Thanks --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 12:39, 27 May 2012 (CDT)
	:It would pretty much be impossible. Not even taking the pressure of full power rounds into account the geometry of it wouldn't work. The [[FN Five-seveN]] is chambered for the 5.7x28mm cartridge which has an overall length of about 1.6 inches, which is pretty much the longest round you can fit into a pistol grip and still be ergonomically viable. The shortest cartridge that I would call an assault rifle cartridge would be the 7.62x39mm, which is 2.2 inches. There is no way that you could have a pistol chambered in a full power rifle round and have it looking anything like a traditional semi auto pistol. There are "pistols" that exist chambered for full power rifle rounds, but they are either bolt actions or basically a carbine without a stock. I imagine what they meant was that the pistols were chambered in rifle calibres like the 5.7x28mm, which can use the same physical bullet as a 5.56x45mm but in a smaller case with less propellant. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 15:50, 27 May 2012 (CDT)		:It would pretty much be impossible. Not even taking the pressure of full power rounds into account the geometry of it wouldn't work. The [[FN Five-seveN]] is chambered for the 5.7x28mm cartridge which has an overall length of about 1.6 inches, which is pretty much the longest round you can fit into a pistol grip and still be ergonomically viable. The shortest cartridge that I would call an assault rifle cartridge would be the 7.62x39mm, which is 2.2 inches. There is no way that you could have a pistol chambered in a full power rifle round and have it looking anything like a traditional semi auto pistol. There are "pistols" that exist chambered for full power rifle rounds, but they are either bolt actions or basically a carbine without a stock. I imagine what they meant was that the pistols were chambered in rifle calibres like the 5.7x28mm, which can use the same physical bullet as a 5.56x45mm but in a smaller case with less propellant. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 15:50, 27 May 2012 (CDT)

			::Just realised I conflated several different cartridges into a non-existant one. I am aware of the pistol/carbines you mention, like the AR-15 Patriot Pistol, but thank you for confirming what I thought, that it wouldn't be possible because of the size issue. They said in the show, something to the effect of, that the black ops chappies use these pistols because it negates kevlar, so I suppose they meant the PDW rounds of HK and FN. --[[User:Rebusdi\|Rebusdi]] 17:48, 27 May 2012 (CDT)