Talk:Milkor MGL - Revision history

Ultimate94ninja at 17:02, 16 April 2020

2020-04-16T17:02:49Z

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	~~''See~~ [[~~Talk~~:~~Milkor MGL/Archive_1~~]] ~~for older discussions''~~		=Additional Images=
			[[File:RGP40 Polish.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|Polish RPG-40 - 40mm]]
	~~==Additional Images==~~
	[[File:ICS-190 GLM.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|ICS-190 GLM, an Airsoft replica of the Milkor MGL Mk 1L]]		[[File:ICS-190 GLM.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|ICS-190 GLM, an Airsoft replica of the Milkor MGL Mk 1L]]
	[[File:ICS-191 GLM.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|ICS-191 GLM, an Airsoft replica of the Milkor MGL Mk 1L]]		[[File:ICS-191 GLM.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|ICS-191 GLM, an Airsoft replica of the Milkor MGL Mk 1L]]
	~~[[File:RGP40 Polish.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|Polish RPG-40 -40mm]]~~

			=Discussion=
	== The text/image on this page is wrong ==		== The text/image on this page is wrong ==

Ultimate94ninja: Undo revision 1338809 by Ominae (talk) Um, why? There are very few discussions on this page, and it's not on you to archive discussions like this

2020-04-16T17:01:58Z

Undo revision 1338809 by Ominae (talk) Um, why? There are very few discussions on this page, and it's not on you to archive discussions like this

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	[[File:ICS-191 GLM.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|ICS-191 GLM, an Airsoft replica of the Milkor MGL Mk 1L]]		[[File:ICS-191 GLM.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|ICS-191 GLM, an Airsoft replica of the Milkor MGL Mk 1L]]
	[[File:RGP40 Polish.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|Polish RPG-40 -40mm]]		[[File:RGP40 Polish.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|Polish RPG-40 -40mm]]

			== The text/image on this page is wrong ==

			The image on the page is not an MGL-140, but an MGL Mk 1S. The MGL Mk 1 S has a 105mm cylinder, while the MGL Mk 1L or MGL-140 (seen in [[Inception]]) has a 140mm cylinder.

			This is the '''MGL Mk 1S''':
			[[Image:MGL32.jpg\|thumb\|none\|480px\|This is NOT the variant used by the US Army!]]
			If you click on the image you will see that the original image was the MGL-140, but it was overwritten with the MGL Mk 1S.

			This is the '''MGL Mk 1L''', also known as '''MGL-140''' or '''M32 MSGL'''.
			[[Image:MGL Mk 1 L.jpg\|thumb\|none\|480px\|This one is used by the US Army.]]
			I will go ahead and correct the info on ALL pages if that is okay? --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 09:45, 7 February 2012 (CST)

			Actually, neither of them is used by the US Army; it's the Marines that use the M32. [[User:The Wierd It\|The Wierd It]] 11:20, 7 February 2012 (CST)
			:Then the Marines, sorry. The point was not who uses it. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 11:36, 7 February 2012 (CST)

			Since no one said that I should not do it, I am going to redo the page. I am not sure tho, how to call the sections: should I use the official designations (MGL Mk 1S and MGL Mk 1L) or the unofficial ones (MGL-105 and MGL-140)? - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 08:59, 9 February 2012 (CST)

			Odd, since Wikipedia has [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M-32_Grenade_Launcher.jpg this], which looks more like the first one. Mind you, the caption says that was when it was experimental, were there changes? [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] 02:30, 10 February 2012 (CST)
			:The article says the gun was field tested in 2006, and the photo was also taken in 2006. But what do you mean "looks more like the first one"? The gun on the pic clearly has a longer cylinder. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 02:38, 10 February 2012 (CST)
			::Eh, must just be perspective, but it looks like the shorter one to me. But it also has the same barrel as the first one (with a ring at the end), and unless the stock folds into that position it has the same stock, too (stock is lower than the pivot rather than right in line with it like the second image). [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] 02:43, 10 February 2012 (CST)
			:The image I could find of the real MGL-140 is not perfect. If you click on the Mk 1S image, you will see that it was originally an Mk 1L. On that image, all the features you mentioned are present. (When I have time, I will white out the background and overwrite my low-quality pic of the Mk 1L with that one.)--[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 03:41, 10 February 2012 (CST)
			I think it might actually be wrong to be calling this the Mk 1L as opposed to the MGL-140. The Mk 1L is the version made in South Africa by Milkor, whilst the MGL-140 is made in America by Milkor USA. I think they are essentially the same weapon just with different furniture (ss standard the Mk 1L doesn't have RIS or an adjustable stock, but I imagine you can build up a Mk 1L to MGL-140 spec) but as all live action appearance of this gun are from American media, this means they will be MGL-140s. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 05:02, 10 February 2012 (CST)

			::Here is a link to the Milkor South Africa brochure: [http://www.milkor.co.za/images/brochures/Milkor%20Brochure.pdf link]
			::Scroll to the Mk 1L section, and you will see that it has both RIS and sliding stock = same gun with two different designations, no? - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 05:52, 10 February 2012 (CST)

			== MGL reload procedure ==

			So based on what I've read, seen, and heard from YouTube videos and random internet comments, the MGLs have a very strict reload procedure that currently none of the video games follow. This is what I've concluded (which may or may not be fully accurate):

			* Say we've been given a fully loaded MGL and we fired all six rounds from it.
			* We start with by opening up the cylinder (you pull this lever in front of the cylinder outwards, then twist the pistol grip counter-clockwise around the top pivot) and emptying the MGL. The casings should drop out easily, and if they don't you give the ejector a push (the same lever, but now you push it inwards) and they should come out.
			* We then place our fingers into the cylinder, and quickly twist it counter-clockwise 360 degrees in one go. This winds up the spring inside the cylinder, necessary for the cylinder to rotate when firing.
			** If you don't fully wind up the spring in one go ("short cranking"), you have to press a button (I believe it is the lever-like thing next to the gas piston though I cannot confirm this), reset the cylinder/spring to the original position, and try again. The cylinder cannot be manually rotated when the spring is partially wounded. So you can't load a round, rotate, then load another round, and rotate again and repeat until full. It's a full rotation or a restart.
			** There is an externally visible cylinder limiter (a rod sticking out of the bottom strut underneath the cylinder, which blocks the movement of a rod sticking out on the cylinder near the "3" cylinder) that limits the rotation range of the cylinder, preventing the cylinder from turning past 360 degrees in one direction.
			* After winding up the spring, you load new rounds, close the cylinder, and you are good to go.
			* If you wanna reload mid-cylinder, I'm pretty sure you need to press that cylinder reset button, reset the spring to the unwounded position, then fully wind up the spring, and finally reload.

			--[[User:Wuzh\|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh\|talk]]) 01:46, 26 February 2020 (EST)

Ominae: Replaced content with "''See Talk:Milkor MGL/Archive_1 for older discussions'' ==Additional Images== [[File:ICS-190 GLM.jpg|thumb|500px|none|ICS-190 GLM, an Airsoft replica of the Milkor MG..."

2020-04-16T15:56:58Z

Replaced content with "''See Talk:Milkor MGL/Archive_1 for older discussions'' ==Additional Images== [[File:ICS-190 GLM.jpg|thumb|500px|none|ICS-190 GLM, an Airsoft replica of the Milkor MG..."

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	[[File:ICS-191 GLM.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|ICS-191 GLM, an Airsoft replica of the Milkor MGL Mk 1L]]		[[File:ICS-191 GLM.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|ICS-191 GLM, an Airsoft replica of the Milkor MGL Mk 1L]]
	[[File:RGP40 Polish.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|Polish RPG-40 -40mm]]		[[File:RGP40 Polish.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|Polish RPG-40 -40mm]]

	~~== The text/image on this page is wrong ==~~

	~~The image on the page is not an MGL-140, but an MGL Mk 1S. The MGL Mk 1 S has a 105mm cylinder, while the MGL Mk 1L or MGL-140 (seen in [[Inception]]) has a 140mm cylinder.~~

	~~This is the '''MGL Mk 1S''':~~
	~~[[Image:MGL32.jpg\|thumb\|none\|480px\|This is NOT the variant used by the US Army!]]~~
	~~If you click on the image you will see that the original image was the MGL-140, but it was overwritten with the MGL Mk 1S.~~

	~~This is the '''MGL Mk 1L''', also known as '''MGL-140''' or '''M32 MSGL'''.~~
	~~[[Image:MGL Mk 1 L.jpg\|thumb\|none\|480px\|This one is used by the US Army.]]~~
	~~I will go ahead and correct the info on ALL pages if that is okay? --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 09:45, 7 February 2012 (CST)~~

	~~Actually, neither of them is used by the US Army; it's the Marines that use the M32. [[User:The Wierd It\|The Wierd It]] 11:20, 7 February 2012 (CST)~~
	~~:Then the Marines, sorry. The point was not who uses it. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 11:36, 7 February 2012 (CST)~~

	Since no one said that I should not do it, I am going to redo the page. I am not sure tho, how to call the sections: should I use the official designations (MGL Mk 1S and MGL Mk 1L) or the unofficial ones (MGL-105 and MGL-140)? - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 08:59, 9 February 2012 (CST)

	Odd, since Wikipedia has [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M-32_Grenade_Launcher.jpg this], which looks more like the first one. Mind you, the caption says that was when it was experimental, were there changes? [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] 02:30, 10 February 2012 (CST)
	:The article says the gun was field tested in 2006, and the photo was also taken in 2006. But what do you mean "looks more like the first one"? The gun on the pic clearly has a longer cylinder. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 02:38, 10 February 2012 (CST)
	::Eh, must just be perspective, but it looks like the shorter one to me. But it also has the same barrel as the first one (with a ring at the end), and unless the stock folds into that position it has the same stock, too (stock is lower than the pivot rather than right in line with it like the second image). [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] 02:43, 10 February 2012 (CST)
	:The image I could find of the real MGL-140 is not perfect. If you click on the Mk 1S image, you will see that it was originally an Mk 1L. On that image, all the features you mentioned are present. (When I have time, I will white out the background and overwrite my low-quality pic of the Mk 1L with that one.)--[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 03:41, 10 February 2012 (CST)
	I think it might actually be wrong to be calling this the Mk 1L as opposed to the MGL-140. The Mk 1L is the version made in South Africa by Milkor, whilst the MGL-140 is made in America by Milkor USA. I think they are essentially the same weapon just with different furniture (ss standard the Mk 1L doesn't have RIS or an adjustable stock, but I imagine you can build up a Mk 1L to MGL-140 spec) but as all live action appearance of this gun are from American media, this means they will be MGL-140s. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 05:02, 10 February 2012 (CST)

	~~::Here is a link to the Milkor South Africa brochure: [http://www.milkor.co.za/images/brochures/Milkor%20Brochure.pdf link]~~
	::Scroll to the Mk 1L section, and you will see that it has both RIS and sliding stock = same gun with two different designations, no? - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 05:52, 10 February 2012 (CST)

	~~== MGL reload procedure ==~~

	So based on what I've read, seen, and heard from YouTube videos and random internet comments, the MGLs have a very strict reload procedure that currently none of the video games follow. This is what I've concluded (which may or may not be fully accurate):

	* Say we've been given a fully loaded MGL and we fired all six rounds from it.
	* We start with by opening up the cylinder (you pull this lever in front of the cylinder outwards, then twist the pistol grip counter-clockwise around the top pivot) and emptying the MGL. The casings should drop out easily, and if they don't you give the ejector a push (the same lever, but now you push it inwards) and they should come out.
	* We then place our fingers into the cylinder, and quickly twist it counter-clockwise 360 degrees in one go. This winds up the spring inside the cylinder, necessary for the cylinder to rotate when firing.
	** If you don't fully wind up the spring in one go ("short cranking"), you have to press a button (I believe it is the lever-like thing next to the gas piston though I cannot confirm this), reset the cylinder/spring to the original position, and try again. The cylinder cannot be manually rotated when the spring is partially wounded. So you can't load a round, rotate, then load another round, and rotate again and repeat until full. It's a full rotation or a restart.
	** There is an externally visible cylinder limiter (a rod sticking out of the bottom strut underneath the cylinder, which blocks the movement of a rod sticking out on the cylinder near the "3" cylinder) that limits the rotation range of the cylinder, preventing the cylinder from turning past 360 degrees in one direction.
	* After winding up the spring, you load new rounds, close the cylinder, and you are good to go.
	* If you wanna reload mid-cylinder, I'm pretty sure you need to press that cylinder reset button, reset the spring to the unwounded position, then fully wind up the spring, and finally reload.

	~~--[[User:Wuzh\|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh\|talk]]) 01:46, 26 February 2020 (EST)~~

Ominae at 15:56, 16 April 2020

2020-04-16T15:56:15Z

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			''See [[Talk:Milkor MGL/Archive_1]] for older discussions''

	==Additional Images==		==Additional Images==
	[[File:ICS-190 GLM.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|ICS-190 GLM, an Airsoft replica of the Milkor MGL Mk 1L]]		[[File:ICS-190 GLM.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|ICS-190 GLM, an Airsoft replica of the Milkor MGL Mk 1L]]

Wuzh: /* MGL reload procedure */

2020-02-26T06:58:01Z

MGL reload procedure

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	* Say we've been given a fully loaded MGL and we fired all six rounds from it.		* Say we've been given a fully loaded MGL and we fired all six rounds from it.
	* We start with by opening up the cylinder (you pull this lever in front of the cylinder outwards, then twist the pistol grip clockwise around the top pivot) and emptying the MGL. The casings should drop out easily, and if they don't you give the ejector a push (the same lever, but now you push it inwards) and they should come out.		* We start with by opening up the cylinder (you pull this lever in front of the cylinder outwards, then twist the pistol grip counter-clockwise around the top pivot) and emptying the MGL. The casings should drop out easily, and if they don't you give the ejector a push (the same lever, but now you push it inwards) and they should come out.
	* We then place our fingers into the cylinder, and quickly twist it counter-clockwise 360 degrees in one go. This winds up the spring inside the cylinder, necessary for the cylinder to rotate when firing.		* We then place our fingers into the cylinder, and quickly twist it counter-clockwise 360 degrees in one go. This winds up the spring inside the cylinder, necessary for the cylinder to rotate when firing.
	** If you don't fully wind up the spring in one go ("short cranking"), you have to press a button (I believe it is the lever-like thing next to the gas piston though I cannot confirm this), reset the cylinder/spring to the original position, and try again. The cylinder cannot be manually rotated when the spring is partially wounded. So you can't load a round, rotate, then load another round, and rotate again and repeat until full. It's a full rotation or a restart.		** If you don't fully wind up the spring in one go ("short cranking"), you have to press a button (I believe it is the lever-like thing next to the gas piston though I cannot confirm this), reset the cylinder/spring to the original position, and try again. The cylinder cannot be manually rotated when the spring is partially wounded. So you can't load a round, rotate, then load another round, and rotate again and repeat until full. It's a full rotation or a restart.

Wuzh: /* MGL reload procedure */

2020-02-26T06:57:31Z

MGL reload procedure

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	* Say we've been given a fully loaded MGL and we fired all six rounds from it.		* Say we've been given a fully loaded MGL and we fired all six rounds from it.
	* We start with by opening up the cylinder (you pull this lever in front of the cylinder outwards, then twist the pistol grip clockwise ~~along~~ the top pivot) and emptying the MGL. The casings should drop out easily, and if they don't you give the ejector a push (the same lever, but now you push it inwards) and they should come out.		* We start with by opening up the cylinder (you pull this lever in front of the cylinder outwards, then twist the pistol grip clockwise around the top pivot) and emptying the MGL. The casings should drop out easily, and if they don't you give the ejector a push (the same lever, but now you push it inwards) and they should come out.
	* We then place our fingers into the cylinder, and quickly twist it counter-clockwise 360 degrees in one go. This winds up the spring inside the cylinder, necessary for the cylinder to rotate when firing.		* We then place our fingers into the cylinder, and quickly twist it counter-clockwise 360 degrees in one go. This winds up the spring inside the cylinder, necessary for the cylinder to rotate when firing.
	** If you don't fully wind up the spring in one go ("short cranking"), you have to press a button (I believe it is the lever-like thing next to the gas piston though I cannot confirm this), reset the cylinder/spring to the original position, and try again. The cylinder cannot be manually rotated when the spring is partially wounded. So you can't load a round, rotate, then load another round, and rotate again and repeat until full. It's a full rotation or a restart.		** If you don't fully wind up the spring in one go ("short cranking"), you have to press a button (I believe it is the lever-like thing next to the gas piston though I cannot confirm this), reset the cylinder/spring to the original position, and try again. The cylinder cannot be manually rotated when the spring is partially wounded. So you can't load a round, rotate, then load another round, and rotate again and repeat until full. It's a full rotation or a restart.

Wuzh: /* MGL reload procedure */

2020-02-26T06:56:11Z

MGL reload procedure

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	* Say we've been given a fully loaded MGL and we fired all six rounds from it.		* Say we've been given a fully loaded MGL and we fired all six rounds from it.
	* We start with by opening up the cylinder and emptying the MGL. The casings should drop out easily, and if they don't you give the ejector a push and they should come out.		* We start with by opening up the cylinder (you pull this lever in front of the cylinder outwards, then twist the pistol grip clockwise along the top pivot) and emptying the MGL. The casings should drop out easily, and if they don't you give the ejector a push (the same lever, but now you push it inwards) and they should come out.
	* We then place our fingers into the cylinder, and quickly twist it counter-clockwise 360 degrees in one go. This winds up the spring inside the cylinder, necessary for the cylinder to rotate when firing.		* We then place our fingers into the cylinder, and quickly twist it counter-clockwise 360 degrees in one go. This winds up the spring inside the cylinder, necessary for the cylinder to rotate when firing.
	** If you don't fully wind up the spring in one go ("short cranking"), you have to press a button (I believe it is the lever-like thing next to the gas piston though I cannot confirm this), reset the cylinder/spring to the original position, and try again. The cylinder cannot be manually rotated when the spring is partially wounded. So you can't load a round, rotate, then load another round, and rotate again and repeat until full. It's a full rotation or a restart.		** If you don't fully wind up the spring in one go ("short cranking"), you have to press a button (I believe it is the lever-like thing next to the gas piston though I cannot confirm this), reset the cylinder/spring to the original position, and try again. The cylinder cannot be manually rotated when the spring is partially wounded. So you can't load a round, rotate, then load another round, and rotate again and repeat until full. It's a full rotation or a restart.

Wuzh: /* MGL reload procedure */

2020-02-26T06:52:18Z

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	** There is an externally visible cylinder limiter (a rod sticking out of the bottom strut underneath the cylinder, which blocks the movement of a rod sticking out on the cylinder near the "3" cylinder) that limits the rotation range of the cylinder, preventing the cylinder from turning past 360 degrees in one direction.		** There is an externally visible cylinder limiter (a rod sticking out of the bottom strut underneath the cylinder, which blocks the movement of a rod sticking out on the cylinder near the "3" cylinder) that limits the rotation range of the cylinder, preventing the cylinder from turning past 360 degrees in one direction.
	* After winding up the spring, you load new rounds, close the cylinder, and you are good to go.		* After winding up the spring, you load new rounds, close the cylinder, and you are good to go.
	* If you wanna reload mid-cylinder, I'm pretty sure you need to press that cylinder reset button, reset the spring to the unwounded position, then fully wind up the spring and reload.		* If you wanna reload mid-cylinder, I'm pretty sure you need to press that cylinder reset button, reset the spring to the unwounded position, then fully wind up the spring, and finally reload.

	--[[User:Wuzh\|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh\|talk]]) 01:46, 26 February 2020 (EST)		--[[User:Wuzh\|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh\|talk]]) 01:46, 26 February 2020 (EST)

Wuzh: /* MGL reload procedure */

2020-02-26T06:52:01Z

MGL reload procedure

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	** There is an externally visible cylinder limiter (a rod sticking out of the bottom strut underneath the cylinder, which blocks the movement of a rod sticking out on the cylinder near the "3" cylinder) that limits the rotation range of the cylinder, preventing the cylinder from turning past 360 degrees in one direction.		** There is an externally visible cylinder limiter (a rod sticking out of the bottom strut underneath the cylinder, which blocks the movement of a rod sticking out on the cylinder near the "3" cylinder) that limits the rotation range of the cylinder, preventing the cylinder from turning past 360 degrees in one direction.
	* After winding up the spring, you load new rounds, close the cylinder, and you are good to go.		* After winding up the spring, you load new rounds, close the cylinder, and you are good to go.
	* If you wanna reload mid-cylinder, I'm pretty sure you need to press that cylinder reset button ~~and~~ reset the spring to the unwounded position ~~before you~~ reload.		* If you wanna reload mid-cylinder, I'm pretty sure you need to press that cylinder reset button, reset the spring to the unwounded position, then fully wind up the spring and reload.

	--[[User:Wuzh\|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh\|talk]]) 01:46, 26 February 2020 (EST)		--[[User:Wuzh\|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh\|talk]]) 01:46, 26 February 2020 (EST)

Wuzh: /* MGL reload procedure */

2020-02-26T06:50:18Z

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	* We start with by opening up the cylinder and emptying the MGL. The casings should drop out easily, and if they don't you give the ejector a push and they should come out.		* We start with by opening up the cylinder and emptying the MGL. The casings should drop out easily, and if they don't you give the ejector a push and they should come out.
	* We then place our fingers into the cylinder, and quickly twist it counter-clockwise 360 degrees in one go. This winds up the spring inside the cylinder, necessary for the cylinder to rotate when firing.		* We then place our fingers into the cylinder, and quickly twist it counter-clockwise 360 degrees in one go. This winds up the spring inside the cylinder, necessary for the cylinder to rotate when firing.
	** If you don't fully wind up the spring in one go ("short cranking"), you have to press a button, reset the cylinder/spring to the original position, and try again. The cylinder cannot be manually rotated when the spring is partially wounded. So you can't load a round, rotate, then load another round, and rotate again and repeat until full. It's a full rotation or a restart.		** If you don't fully wind up the spring in one go ("short cranking"), you have to press a button (I believe it is the lever-like thing next to the gas piston though I cannot confirm this), reset the cylinder/spring to the original position, and try again. The cylinder cannot be manually rotated when the spring is partially wounded. So you can't load a round, rotate, then load another round, and rotate again and repeat until full. It's a full rotation or a restart.
	** There is an externally visible cylinder limiter (a rod sticking out of the bottom strut underneath the cylinder, which blocks the movement of a rod sticking out on the cylinder near the "3" cylinder) that limits the rotation range of the cylinder, preventing the cylinder from turning past 360 degrees in one direction.		** There is an externally visible cylinder limiter (a rod sticking out of the bottom strut underneath the cylinder, which blocks the movement of a rod sticking out on the cylinder near the "3" cylinder) that limits the rotation range of the cylinder, preventing the cylinder from turning past 360 degrees in one direction.
	* After winding up the spring, you load new rounds, close the cylinder, and you are good to go.		* After winding up the spring, you load new rounds, close the cylinder, and you are good to go.