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Greg-Z: /* Possible ID of the several muskets */

2019-05-09T08:19:17Z

Possible ID of the several muskets

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	== Possible ID of the several muskets ==		== Possible ID of the several muskets ==

	[[File:MTP-GunStore-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|From the top to bottom. 1) Unknown Musket. 2) [[Brown Bess Flintlock Musket]]. 3) Percussion (possible convert) [[Jezail Musket]]. 4) Unknown percussion long rifle or musket. 5) [[Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856]] or [[Springfield 1861]]. 6) The gun is very similar to [[Springfield Model 1842]], but has a different rear sight. 7) [[Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856]] or [[Springfield 1861]]. 8) [[Blunderbuss]] style shotgun.]]		[[File:MTP-GunStore-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|From the top to bottom. 1) Unknown Musket. 2) [[Brown Bess Flintlock Musket]]. 3) Percussion (possible convert) [[Jezail Musket]]. 4) Unknown percussion long rifle or musket. 5) Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856 or [[Springfield 1861]]. 6) The gun is very similar to [[Springfield Model 1842]], but has a different rear sight. 7) Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856 or [[Springfield 1861]]. 8) [[Blunderbuss]] style shotgun.]]

	[[File:MTP-GunStore-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|This shot depict the muzzle of brown bess musket]]		[[File:MTP-GunStore-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|This shot depict the muzzle of brown bess musket]]
	:I don't think that these guesses can be proved or declined. Springfield rifles are rarely seen outside America, and they have no chance to appear in Soviet Moldovan movie. Pattern 1856 rifles were mostly converted into Krnka rifles, so original guns of this model are very rare. No.3 is possibly a Cossack or "Circassian" musket, of North Caucasus origin. No. 8 looks more like a kind of cavalry carbine. Anyway it's all very vague, so better leave them unidentified. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:56, 12 August 2018 (EDT)		:I don't think that these guesses can be proved or declined. Springfield rifles are rarely seen outside America, and they have no chance to appear in Soviet Moldovan movie. Pattern 1856 rifles were mostly converted into Krnka rifles, so original guns of this model are very rare. No.3 is possibly a Cossack or "Circassian" musket, of North Caucasus origin. No. 8 looks more like a kind of cavalry carbine. Anyway it's all very vague, so better leave them unidentified. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:56, 12 August 2018 (EDT)


	== Lever Action Rifle ==		== Lever Action Rifle ==
	Why do the 'lever actions' look like mocked up [[Single Barreled Shotgun]]? Did they actually function in the movie? [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 21:16, 12 August 2018 (EDT)		Why do the 'lever actions' look like mocked up [[Single Barreled Shotgun]]? Did they actually function in the movie? [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 21:16, 12 August 2018 (EDT)
	:These guns aren't operated on screen so yes, they can be mocked up shotguns. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 06:30, 13 August 2018 (EDT)		:These guns aren't operated on screen so yes, they can be mocked up shotguns. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 06:30, 13 August 2018 (EDT)

Greg-Z: /* Lever Action Rifle */

2018-08-13T10:30:02Z

Lever Action Rifle

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	== Lever Action Rifle ==		== Lever Action Rifle ==
	Why do the 'lever actions' look like mocked up [[Single Barreled Shotgun]]? Did they actually function in the movie? [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 21:16, 12 August 2018 (EDT)		Why do the 'lever actions' look like mocked up [[Single Barreled Shotgun]]? Did they actually function in the movie? [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 21:16, 12 August 2018 (EDT)
			:These guns aren't operated on screen so yes, they can be mocked up shotguns. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 06:30, 13 August 2018 (EDT)

Black Irish Paddy at 01:16, 13 August 2018

2018-08-13T01:16:41Z

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	[[File:MTP-GunStore-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|This shot depict the muzzle of brown bess musket]]		[[File:MTP-GunStore-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|This shot depict the muzzle of brown bess musket]]
	:I don't think that these guesses can be proved or declined. Springfield rifles are rarely seen outside America, and they have no chance to appear in Soviet Moldovan movie. Pattern 1856 rifles were mostly converted into Krnka rifles, so original guns of this model are very rare. No.3 is possibly a Cossack or "Circassian" musket, of North Caucasus origin. No. 8 looks more like a kind of cavalry carbine. Anyway it's all very vague, so better leave them unidentified. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:56, 12 August 2018 (EDT)		:I don't think that these guesses can be proved or declined. Springfield rifles are rarely seen outside America, and they have no chance to appear in Soviet Moldovan movie. Pattern 1856 rifles were mostly converted into Krnka rifles, so original guns of this model are very rare. No.3 is possibly a Cossack or "Circassian" musket, of North Caucasus origin. No. 8 looks more like a kind of cavalry carbine. Anyway it's all very vague, so better leave them unidentified. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:56, 12 August 2018 (EDT)


			== Lever Action Rifle ==
			Why do the 'lever actions' look like mocked up [[Single Barreled Shotgun]]? Did they actually function in the movie? [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 21:16, 12 August 2018 (EDT)

Greg-Z: /* Possible ID of the several muskets */

2018-08-12T12:56:33Z

Possible ID of the several muskets

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	[[File:MTP-GunStore-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|This shot depict the muzzle of brown bess musket]]		[[File:MTP-GunStore-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|This shot depict the muzzle of brown bess musket]]
			:I don't think that these guesses can be proved or declined. Springfield rifles are rarely seen outside America, and they have no chance to appear in Soviet Moldovan movie. Pattern 1856 rifles were mostly converted into Krnka rifles, so original guns of this model are very rare. No.3 is possibly a Cossack or "Circassian" musket, of North Caucasus origin. No. 8 looks more like a kind of cavalry carbine. Anyway it's all very vague, so better leave them unidentified. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:56, 12 August 2018 (EDT)

Pyramid Silent: /* Possible ID of the several muskets */ new section

2018-08-06T15:38:20Z

Possible ID of the several muskets: new section

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	[[File:MTP-GunStore-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|The pistol on the top isn't a flintlock. Note the bulged part under the lock, which is a typical sign of a wheelock firearms. Despite the shot is a darked, the wheel and the dog can be seen. A less important sign is the shape of a trigger guard, which is similar the shape of the gun image under this screenshot.]]		[[File:MTP-GunStore-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|The pistol on the top isn't a flintlock. Note the bulged part under the lock, which is a typical sign of a wheelock firearms. Despite the shot is a darked, the wheel and the dog can be seen. A less important sign is the shape of a trigger guard, which is similar the shape of the gun image under this screenshot.]]
	[[Image:Wheel lock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Wheellock pistol. The screen gun is a very similar althought a more longer barrreled and has barrel bands.]]		[[Image:Wheel lock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Wheellock pistol. The screen gun is a very similar althought a more longer barrreled and has barrel bands.]]

			== Possible ID of the several muskets ==

			[[File:MTP-GunStore-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|From the top to bottom. 1) Unknown Musket. 2) [[Brown Bess Flintlock Musket]]. 3) Percussion (possible convert) [[Jezail Musket]]. 4) Unknown percussion long rifle or musket. 5) [[Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856]] or [[Springfield 1861]]. 6) The gun is very similar to [[Springfield Model 1842]], but has a different rear sight. 7) [[Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856]] or [[Springfield 1861]]. 8) [[Blunderbuss]] style shotgun.]]

			[[File:MTP-GunStore-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|This shot depict the muzzle of brown bess musket]]

Pyramid Silent: /* One of the pistols isn't a flintlock, but a wheellock */ new section

2018-08-06T15:19:50Z

One of the pistols isn't a flintlock, but a wheellock: new section

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	[[File:MTP-Nagant-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A man with two revolvers break into editors office.]]		[[File:MTP-Nagant-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A man with two revolvers break into editors office.]]
	[[File:MTP-Nagant-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Joe Goodman ([[Lev Lemke]]) holds a revolver.]]		[[File:MTP-Nagant-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Joe Goodman ([[Lev Lemke]]) holds a revolver.]]

			== One of the pistols isn't a flintlock, but a wheellock ==

			One of the pistols, which described as [[Flintlock Pistol\|flintlock]] isn't a flintlock, but a [[Wheellock Pistol\|wheellock]].
			[[File:MTP-GunStore-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|The pistol on the top isn't a flintlock. Note the bulged part under the lock, which is a typical sign of a wheelock firearms. Despite the shot is a darked, the wheel and the dog can be seen. A less important sign is the shape of a trigger guard, which is similar the shape of the gun image under this screenshot.]]
			[[Image:Wheel lock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Wheellock pistol. The screen gun is a very similar althought a more longer barrreled and has barrel bands.]]

Greg-Z: Created page with "= Special Thanks = The idea and screenshots are provided by AVSniff, forum.guns.ru. ~~~~ = Additional Images = == Nagant M1895 (visually modified) == [[File:MTP-Nagant-1.jpg|..."

2018-08-05T15:22:42Z

Created page with "= Special Thanks = The idea and screenshots are provided by AVSniff, forum.guns.ru. ~~~~ = Additional Images = == Nagant M1895 (visually modified) == [[File:MTP-Nagant-1.jpg|..."

New page

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	== Possible ID of the several muskets ==		== Possible ID of the several muskets ==

	[[File:MTP-GunStore-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|From the top to bottom. 1) Unknown Musket. 2) [[Brown Bess Flintlock Musket]]. 3) Percussion (possible convert) [[Jezail Musket]]. 4) Unknown percussion long rifle or musket. 5) [[Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856]] or [[Springfield 1861]]. 6) The gun is very similar to [[Springfield Model 1842]], but has a different rear sight. 7) [[Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856]] or [[Springfield 1861]]. 8) [[Blunderbuss]] style shotgun.]]		[[File:MTP-GunStore-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|From the top to bottom. 1) Unknown Musket. 2) [[Brown Bess Flintlock Musket]]. 3) Percussion (possible convert) [[Jezail Musket]]. 4) Unknown percussion long rifle or musket. 5) Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856 or [[Springfield 1861]]. 6) The gun is very similar to [[Springfield Model 1842]], but has a different rear sight. 7) Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856 or [[Springfield 1861]]. 8) [[Blunderbuss]] style shotgun.]]

	[[File:MTP-GunStore-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|This shot depict the muzzle of brown bess musket]]		[[File:MTP-GunStore-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|This shot depict the muzzle of brown bess musket]]
	:I don't think that these guesses can be proved or declined. Springfield rifles are rarely seen outside America, and they have no chance to appear in Soviet Moldovan movie. Pattern 1856 rifles were mostly converted into Krnka rifles, so original guns of this model are very rare. No.3 is possibly a Cossack or "Circassian" musket, of North Caucasus origin. No. 8 looks more like a kind of cavalry carbine. Anyway it's all very vague, so better leave them unidentified. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:56, 12 August 2018 (EDT)		:I don't think that these guesses can be proved or declined. Springfield rifles are rarely seen outside America, and they have no chance to appear in Soviet Moldovan movie. Pattern 1856 rifles were mostly converted into Krnka rifles, so original guns of this model are very rare. No.3 is possibly a Cossack or "Circassian" musket, of North Caucasus origin. No. 8 looks more like a kind of cavalry carbine. Anyway it's all very vague, so better leave them unidentified. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:56, 12 August 2018 (EDT)


	== Lever Action Rifle ==		== Lever Action Rifle ==
	Why do the 'lever actions' look like mocked up [[Single Barreled Shotgun]]? Did they actually function in the movie? [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 21:16, 12 August 2018 (EDT)		Why do the 'lever actions' look like mocked up [[Single Barreled Shotgun]]? Did they actually function in the movie? [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 21:16, 12 August 2018 (EDT)
	:These guns aren't operated on screen so yes, they can be mocked up shotguns. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 06:30, 13 August 2018 (EDT)		:These guns aren't operated on screen so yes, they can be mocked up shotguns. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 06:30, 13 August 2018 (EDT)

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	[[File:MTP-GunStore-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|The pistol on the top isn't a flintlock. Note the bulged part under the lock, which is a typical sign of a wheelock firearms. Despite the shot is a darked, the wheel and the dog can be seen. A less important sign is the shape of a trigger guard, which is similar the shape of the gun image under this screenshot.]]		[[File:MTP-GunStore-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|The pistol on the top isn't a flintlock. Note the bulged part under the lock, which is a typical sign of a wheelock firearms. Despite the shot is a darked, the wheel and the dog can be seen. A less important sign is the shape of a trigger guard, which is similar the shape of the gun image under this screenshot.]]
	[[Image:Wheel lock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Wheellock pistol. The screen gun is a very similar althought a more longer barrreled and has barrel bands.]]		[[Image:Wheel lock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Wheellock pistol. The screen gun is a very similar althought a more longer barrreled and has barrel bands.]]

			== Possible ID of the several muskets ==

			[[File:MTP-GunStore-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|From the top to bottom. 1) Unknown Musket. 2) [[Brown Bess Flintlock Musket]]. 3) Percussion (possible convert) [[Jezail Musket]]. 4) Unknown percussion long rifle or musket. 5) [[Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856]] or [[Springfield 1861]]. 6) The gun is very similar to [[Springfield Model 1842]], but has a different rear sight. 7) [[Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856]] or [[Springfield 1861]]. 8) [[Blunderbuss]] style shotgun.]]

			[[File:MTP-GunStore-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|This shot depict the muzzle of brown bess musket]]