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	::The M1911 looks like a really shrunk version of the suppressed M1911 used in-game, maybe an early model or something similar. The Tokarev's a pre-47 alright, looks to be fitted with a similar compensator to the M1911's in The Punisher movie but I don't know what exact type. --[[User:PaperCake\|PaperCake]] 14:06, 8 July 2019 (EST)		::The M1911 looks like a really shrunk version of the suppressed M1911 used in-game, maybe an early model or something similar. The Tokarev's a pre-47 alright, looks to be fitted with a similar compensator to the M1911's in The Punisher movie but I don't know what exact type. --[[User:PaperCake\|PaperCake]] 14:06, 8 July 2019 (EST)
	:::Obviously, one of those brakes that are made now by companies such as GPW. In any case, I doubt that these things for Soviet-guns were until the 1990s (at least 1980s), when many old surpluses were massively exported. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 14:56, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		:::Obviously, one of those brakes that are made now by companies such as GPW. In any case, I doubt that these things for Soviet-guns were until the 1990s (at least 1980s), when many old surpluses were massively exported. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 14:56, 8 July 2019 (EDT)

			== "Gator" Shotgun ==

			On a closer look, it still looks like an 870, but with safety, trigger guard and forend from Mossberg 500. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 18:11, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

Slon95: /* Customized Tokarev in cutscene */

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	:I'm not sure about the "Beretta" (which is obviously some kind of M1911 variant), but the TT-33 in my opinion is almost certainly a cut weapon, since considering its appearance, it is unlikely that they created it only for the cutscene. If it so, then maybe it was "dropped" because of the strong similarity with the already existing M1911A1. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:16, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		:I'm not sure about the "Beretta" (which is obviously some kind of M1911 variant), but the TT-33 in my opinion is almost certainly a cut weapon, since considering its appearance, it is unlikely that they created it only for the cutscene. If it so, then maybe it was "dropped" because of the strong similarity with the already existing M1911A1. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:16, 8 July 2019 (EDT)
	::The M1911 looks like a really shrunk version of the suppressed M1911 used in-game, maybe an early model or something similar. The Tokarev's a pre-47 alright, looks to be fitted with a similar compensator to the M1911's in The Punisher movie but I don't know what exact type. --[[User:PaperCake\|PaperCake]] 14:06, 8 July 2019 (EST)		::The M1911 looks like a really shrunk version of the suppressed M1911 used in-game, maybe an early model or something similar. The Tokarev's a pre-47 alright, looks to be fitted with a similar compensator to the M1911's in The Punisher movie but I don't know what exact type. --[[User:PaperCake\|PaperCake]] 14:06, 8 July 2019 (EST)
			:::Obviously, one of those brakes that are made now by companies such as GPW. In any case, I doubt that these things for Soviet-guns were until the 1990s (at least 1980s), when many old surpluses were massively exported. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 14:56, 8 July 2019 (EDT)

PaperCake at 18:04, 8 July 2019

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	--[[User:Teslashark\|Teslashark]] ([[User talk:Teslashark\|talk]]) 00:32, 19 September 2017 (EDT)		--[[User:Teslashark\|Teslashark]] ([[User talk:Teslashark\|talk]]) 00:32, 19 September 2017 (EDT)
	:I'm not sure about the "Beretta" (which is obviously some kind of M1911 variant), but the TT-33 in my opinion is almost certainly a cut weapon, since considering its appearance, it is unlikely that they created it only for the cutscene. If it so, then maybe it was "dropped" because of the strong similarity with the already existing M1911A1. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:16, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		:I'm not sure about the "Beretta" (which is obviously some kind of M1911 variant), but the TT-33 in my opinion is almost certainly a cut weapon, since considering its appearance, it is unlikely that they created it only for the cutscene. If it so, then maybe it was "dropped" because of the strong similarity with the already existing M1911A1. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:16, 8 July 2019 (EDT)
			::The M1911 looks like a really shrunk version of the suppressed M1911 used in-game, maybe an early model or something similar. The Tokarev's a pre-47 alright, looks to be fitted with a similar compensator to the M1911's in The Punisher movie but I don't know what exact type. --[[User:PaperCake\|PaperCake]] 14:06, 8 July 2019 (EST)

Slon95: /* Customized Tokarev in cutscene */

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	--[[User:Teslashark\|Teslashark]] ([[User talk:Teslashark\|talk]]) 00:32, 19 September 2017 (EDT)		--[[User:Teslashark\|Teslashark]] ([[User talk:Teslashark\|talk]]) 00:32, 19 September 2017 (EDT)
			:I'm not sure about the "Beretta" (which is obviously some kind of M1911 variant), but the TT-33 in my opinion is almost certainly a cut weapon, since considering its appearance, it is unlikely that they created it only for the cutscene. If it so, then maybe it was "dropped" because of the strong similarity with the already existing M1911A1. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:16, 8 July 2019 (EDT)

Teslashark: /* Customized Tokarev in cutscene */ new section

2017-09-19T04:32:08Z

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	I agree that the 20-round magazine would be a better option than the 30-round one in the game since either these were more common in 1968 or 30-round magazines weren't produced yet. By the way, do I sign a post?		I agree that the 20-round magazine would be a better option than the 30-round one in the game since either these were more common in 1968 or 30-round magazines weren't produced yet. By the way, do I sign a post?
	: There's a signature icon at the top of the edit field, that or just type this: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> as stated in your talk page. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:33, 31 May 2017 (EDT)		: There's a signature icon at the top of the edit field, that or just type this: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> as stated in your talk page. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:33, 31 May 2017 (EDT)

			== Customized Tokarev in cutscene ==

			Used by Aldrige, seems like a TT-33 with a muzzle brake?

			* https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/874118910547774095/5F49DDAB4AD09A5CD90EAC08CE6360584064854A/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside\|1024:576&composite-to%3D%2A%2C%2A%7C1024%3A576&background-color=black
			* https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/874118910549493005/D84A852309C9C27AE27241982BB7D34F8B3D94C0/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside\|1024:576&composite-to%3D%2A%2C%2A%7C1024%3A576&background-color=black
			* https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/874118910549492468/92887BCF4B56D13CB9E72F9C5AD29D153F0A78D8/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside\|1024:576&composite-to%3D%2A%2C%2A%7C1024%3A576&background-color=black

			Also, did Donovan use a Beretta 950 in the main game final cutscene?

			--[[User:Teslashark\|Teslashark]] ([[User talk:Teslashark\|talk]]) 00:32, 19 September 2017 (EDT)

Dannyguns: /* Anachronisms */

2017-06-13T12:37:49Z

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	::My guess is the devs went to a firing range to see the real weapons in action, and whoever did the demonstration used this technique. Some dev thinks it looks cool and decides to use it for the reloading animations, not realizing it's wrong for the time period. -- [[User:Phillb36\|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36\|talk]]) 18:30, 15 October 2016 (EDT)		::My guess is the devs went to a firing range to see the real weapons in action, and whoever did the demonstration used this technique. Some dev thinks it looks cool and decides to use it for the reloading animations, not realizing it's wrong for the time period. -- [[User:Phillb36\|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36\|talk]]) 18:30, 15 October 2016 (EDT)

	:He also uses an M9 bayonet as a combat knife... which didn't exist until the 80s. --[[User:PyramidHead\|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead\|talk]]) 10:36, 14 October 2016 (~~EDT)~~		:He also uses an M9 bayonet as a combat knife... which didn't exist until the 80s. --[[User:PyramidHead\|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead\|talk]]) 10:36, 14 October 2016 (ED

	The M16 is a weapon unlock you get when you give a certain amount of territory to Burke, but I think for an Irish guy with close ties to the IRA, the more appropriate weapon as a gift would have been an AR-18 [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 12:01, 14 October 2016 (EDT)		The M16 is a weapon unlock you get when you give a certain amount of territory to Burke, but I think for an Irish guy with close ties to the IRA, the more appropriate weapon as a gift would have been an AR-18 [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 12:01, 14 October 2016 (EDT)


	Would have been nice to see G3s and FALs too. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 17:26, 17 October 2016 (EDT)		Would have been nice to see G3s and FALs too. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 17:26, 17 October 2016 (EDT)

	The devs choose the M16 maybe for not making another model like usually happens. ( but making models is hard, specially with Blender. --[[User:Dannyguns\|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns\|talk]]) 06:33, 10 November 2016 (EST)

	== M16A1? ==		== M16A1? ==

AgentGumby: /* M16A1? */

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	::We could still pass this off as the mob connection to someone in the military that smuggled them some M16A1s. That's how they explained how Sam Jackson got an M16 when he starred in http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/A_Time_to_Kill#M16_.28SP1.29 but that wasn't explained in the movie, only in the book. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 10:14, 1 June 2017 (EDT)		::We could still pass this off as the mob connection to someone in the military that smuggled them some M16A1s. That's how they explained how Sam Jackson got an M16 when he starred in http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/A_Time_to_Kill#M16_.28SP1.29 but that wasn't explained in the movie, only in the book. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 10:14, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
	::: Would still be as I said very unlikely. But not impossible, certainly. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:41, 1 June 2017 (EDT)		::: Would still be as I said very unlikely. But not impossible, certainly. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:41, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
			::::Don't forget this is around the time of [[American Gangster\|Frank Lucas]] smuggling heroin straight from SE Asia through the US military, so it seems kinda plausible for firearms from the Vietnam conflict to come stateside this way.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 17:22, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
	I agree that the 20-round magazine would be a better option than the 30-round one in the game since either these were more common in 1968 or 30-round magazines weren't produced yet. By the way, do I sign a post?		I agree that the 20-round magazine would be a better option than the 30-round one in the game since either these were more common in 1968 or 30-round magazines weren't produced yet. By the way, do I sign a post?
	: There's a signature icon at the top of the edit field, that or just type this: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> as stated in your talk page. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:33, 31 May 2017 (EDT)		: There's a signature icon at the top of the edit field, that or just type this: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> as stated in your talk page. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:33, 31 May 2017 (EDT)

StanTheMan: /* M16A1? */

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	:: Good point, but keep in mind the commercial rifles were only ever SP1s during this time and for a while after; A1-style receiver commercial guns weren't around 'til the 80s. The rifle in this game, meanwhile, is clearly modeled after an M16A1. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 02:54, 1 June 2017 (EDT)		:: Good point, but keep in mind the commercial rifles were only ever SP1s during this time and for a while after; A1-style receiver commercial guns weren't around 'til the 80s. The rifle in this game, meanwhile, is clearly modeled after an M16A1. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 02:54, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
	::We could still pass this off as the mob connection to someone in the military that smuggled them some M16A1s. That's how they explained how Sam Jackson got an M16 when he starred in http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/A_Time_to_Kill#M16_.28SP1.29 but that wasn't explained in the movie, only in the book. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 10:14, 1 June 2017 (EDT)		::We could still pass this off as the mob connection to someone in the military that smuggled them some M16A1s. That's how they explained how Sam Jackson got an M16 when he starred in http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/A_Time_to_Kill#M16_.28SP1.29 but that wasn't explained in the movie, only in the book. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 10:14, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
			::: Would still be as I said very unlikely. But not impossible, certainly. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:41, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
	I agree that the 20-round magazine would be a better option than the 30-round one in the game since either these were more common in 1968 or 30-round magazines weren't produced yet. By the way, do I sign a post?		I agree that the 20-round magazine would be a better option than the 30-round one in the game since either these were more common in 1968 or 30-round magazines weren't produced yet. By the way, do I sign a post?
	: There's a signature icon at the top of the edit field, that or just type this: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> as stated in your talk page. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:33, 31 May 2017 (EDT)		: There's a signature icon at the top of the edit field, that or just type this: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> as stated in your talk page. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:33, 31 May 2017 (EDT)

Excalibur01: /* M16A1? */

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	:A full auto M16 would most likely be hard to get unless in the story, the mobsters knew how to make a semi auto commercial rifle into full auto since it isn't hard to believe they could have just bought them from a store. Even before the adoption of the M16, Colt was actually making money selling them on the commercial market. But I still stand that an Irish mobster would be more interested in the AR-18 because of their background. What's unlikely is them getting AKs [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 10:13, 31 May 2017 (EDT)		:A full auto M16 would most likely be hard to get unless in the story, the mobsters knew how to make a semi auto commercial rifle into full auto since it isn't hard to believe they could have just bought them from a store. Even before the adoption of the M16, Colt was actually making money selling them on the commercial market. But I still stand that an Irish mobster would be more interested in the AR-18 because of their background. What's unlikely is them getting AKs [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 10:13, 31 May 2017 (EDT)
	:: Good point, but keep in mind the commercial rifles were only ever SP1s during this time and for a while after; A1-style receiver commercial guns weren't around 'til the 80s. The rifle in this game, meanwhile, is clearly modeled after an M16A1. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 02:54, 1 June 2017 (EDT)		:: Good point, but keep in mind the commercial rifles were only ever SP1s during this time and for a while after; A1-style receiver commercial guns weren't around 'til the 80s. The rifle in this game, meanwhile, is clearly modeled after an M16A1. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 02:54, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
			::We could still pass this off as the mob connection to someone in the military that smuggled them some M16A1s. That's how they explained how Sam Jackson got an M16 when he starred in http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/A_Time_to_Kill#M16_.28SP1.29 but that wasn't explained in the movie, only in the book. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 10:14, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
	I agree that the 20-round magazine would be a better option than the 30-round one in the game since either these were more common in 1968 or 30-round magazines weren't produced yet. By the way, do I sign a post?		I agree that the 20-round magazine would be a better option than the 30-round one in the game since either these were more common in 1968 or 30-round magazines weren't produced yet. By the way, do I sign a post?
	: There's a signature icon at the top of the edit field, that or just type this: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> as stated in your talk page. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:33, 31 May 2017 (EDT)		: There's a signature icon at the top of the edit field, that or just type this: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> as stated in your talk page. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:33, 31 May 2017 (EDT)

StanTheMan: /* M16A1? */

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	: Do remember to sign your posts. Anyway, having a three-prong flash hider would actually be inaccurate for an M16A1 - Those are correct on original M16s/SP1s and the XM16E1, but not the A1 which introduced the A1-style 'birdcage' flash hider. The magazine however is a better point - I'm not sure 30 round mags were available at all in '68, even if so they were not wipespread by any means; either way, 20 rounders would be more accurate, yes. That all having been said, the A1 itself, while introduced in 67/68 - and thus not technically inaccurate for the period in the game - would be ''very'' unlikely to have been in the hands of mob goons. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 02:17, 11 May 2017 (EDT)		: Do remember to sign your posts. Anyway, having a three-prong flash hider would actually be inaccurate for an M16A1 - Those are correct on original M16s/SP1s and the XM16E1, but not the A1 which introduced the A1-style 'birdcage' flash hider. The magazine however is a better point - I'm not sure 30 round mags were available at all in '68, even if so they were not wipespread by any means; either way, 20 rounders would be more accurate, yes. That all having been said, the A1 itself, while introduced in 67/68 - and thus not technically inaccurate for the period in the game - would be ''very'' unlikely to have been in the hands of mob goons. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 02:17, 11 May 2017 (EDT)
	:A full auto M16 would most likely be hard to get unless in the story, the mobsters knew how to make a semi auto commercial rifle into full auto since it isn't hard to believe they could have just bought them from a store. Even before the adoption of the M16, Colt was actually making money selling them on the commercial market. But I still stand that an Irish mobster would be more interested in the AR-18 because of their background. What's unlikely is them getting AKs [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 10:13, 31 May 2017 (EDT)		:A full auto M16 would most likely be hard to get unless in the story, the mobsters knew how to make a semi auto commercial rifle into full auto since it isn't hard to believe they could have just bought them from a store. Even before the adoption of the M16, Colt was actually making money selling them on the commercial market. But I still stand that an Irish mobster would be more interested in the AR-18 because of their background. What's unlikely is them getting AKs [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 10:13, 31 May 2017 (EDT)
	:: ~~True~~, but the commercial rifles were only ever SP1s during this time and for a while after; A1-style receiver commercial guns weren't around 'til the 80s. The rifle in this game, meanwhile, is clearly modeled after an M16A1. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 02:54, 1 June 2017 (EDT)		:: Good point, but keep in mind the commercial rifles were only ever SP1s during this time and for a while after; A1-style receiver commercial guns weren't around 'til the 80s. The rifle in this game, meanwhile, is clearly modeled after an M16A1. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 02:54, 1 June 2017 (EDT)

	I agree that the 20-round magazine would be a better option than the 30-round one in the game since either these were more common in 1968 or 30-round magazines weren't produced yet. By the way, do I sign a post?		I agree that the 20-round magazine would be a better option than the 30-round one in the game since either these were more common in 1968 or 30-round magazines weren't produced yet. By the way, do I sign a post?
	: There's a signature icon at the top of the edit field, that or just type this: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> as stated in your talk page. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:33, 31 May 2017 (EDT)		: There's a signature icon at the top of the edit field, that or just type this: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> as stated in your talk page. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:33, 31 May 2017 (EDT)

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	:I'm not sure about the "Beretta" (which is obviously some kind of M1911 variant), but the TT-33 in my opinion is almost certainly a cut weapon, since considering its appearance, it is unlikely that they created it only for the cutscene. If it so, then maybe it was "dropped" because of the strong similarity with the already existing M1911A1. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:16, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		:I'm not sure about the "Beretta" (which is obviously some kind of M1911 variant), but the TT-33 in my opinion is almost certainly a cut weapon, since considering its appearance, it is unlikely that they created it only for the cutscene. If it so, then maybe it was "dropped" because of the strong similarity with the already existing M1911A1. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:16, 8 July 2019 (EDT)
	::The M1911 looks like a really shrunk version of the suppressed M1911 used in-game, maybe an early model or something similar. The Tokarev's a pre-47 alright, looks to be fitted with a similar compensator to the M1911's in The Punisher movie but I don't know what exact type. --[[User:PaperCake\|PaperCake]] 14:06, 8 July 2019 (EST)		::The M1911 looks like a really shrunk version of the suppressed M1911 used in-game, maybe an early model or something similar. The Tokarev's a pre-47 alright, looks to be fitted with a similar compensator to the M1911's in The Punisher movie but I don't know what exact type. --[[User:PaperCake\|PaperCake]] 14:06, 8 July 2019 (EST)
			:::Obviously, one of those brakes that are made now by companies such as GPW. In any case, I doubt that these things for Soviet-guns were until the 1990s (at least 1980s), when many old surpluses were massively exported. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 14:56, 8 July 2019 (EDT)

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	--[[User:Teslashark\|Teslashark]] ([[User talk:Teslashark\|talk]]) 00:32, 19 September 2017 (EDT)		--[[User:Teslashark\|Teslashark]] ([[User talk:Teslashark\|talk]]) 00:32, 19 September 2017 (EDT)
	:I'm not sure about the "Beretta" (which is obviously some kind of M1911 variant), but the TT-33 in my opinion is almost certainly a cut weapon, since considering its appearance, it is unlikely that they created it only for the cutscene. If it so, then maybe it was "dropped" because of the strong similarity with the already existing M1911A1. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:16, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		:I'm not sure about the "Beretta" (which is obviously some kind of M1911 variant), but the TT-33 in my opinion is almost certainly a cut weapon, since considering its appearance, it is unlikely that they created it only for the cutscene. If it so, then maybe it was "dropped" because of the strong similarity with the already existing M1911A1. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:16, 8 July 2019 (EDT)
			::The M1911 looks like a really shrunk version of the suppressed M1911 used in-game, maybe an early model or something similar. The Tokarev's a pre-47 alright, looks to be fitted with a similar compensator to the M1911's in The Punisher movie but I don't know what exact type. --[[User:PaperCake\|PaperCake]] 14:06, 8 July 2019 (EST)

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	::My guess is the devs went to a firing range to see the real weapons in action, and whoever did the demonstration used this technique. Some dev thinks it looks cool and decides to use it for the reloading animations, not realizing it's wrong for the time period. -- [[User:Phillb36\|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36\|talk]]) 18:30, 15 October 2016 (EDT)		::My guess is the devs went to a firing range to see the real weapons in action, and whoever did the demonstration used this technique. Some dev thinks it looks cool and decides to use it for the reloading animations, not realizing it's wrong for the time period. -- [[User:Phillb36\|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36\|talk]]) 18:30, 15 October 2016 (EDT)

	:He also uses an M9 bayonet as a combat knife... which didn't exist until the 80s. --[[User:PyramidHead\|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead\|talk]]) 10:36, 14 October 2016 (~~EDT)~~		:He also uses an M9 bayonet as a combat knife... which didn't exist until the 80s. --[[User:PyramidHead\|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead\|talk]]) 10:36, 14 October 2016 (ED

	The M16 is a weapon unlock you get when you give a certain amount of territory to Burke, but I think for an Irish guy with close ties to the IRA, the more appropriate weapon as a gift would have been an AR-18 [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 12:01, 14 October 2016 (EDT)		The M16 is a weapon unlock you get when you give a certain amount of territory to Burke, but I think for an Irish guy with close ties to the IRA, the more appropriate weapon as a gift would have been an AR-18 [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 12:01, 14 October 2016 (EDT)


	Would have been nice to see G3s and FALs too. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 17:26, 17 October 2016 (EDT)		Would have been nice to see G3s and FALs too. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 17:26, 17 October 2016 (EDT)

	The devs choose the M16 maybe for not making another model like usually happens. ( but making models is hard, specially with Blender. --[[User:Dannyguns\|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns\|talk]]) 06:33, 10 November 2016 (EST)

	== M16A1? ==		== M16A1? ==

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	::We could still pass this off as the mob connection to someone in the military that smuggled them some M16A1s. That's how they explained how Sam Jackson got an M16 when he starred in http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/A_Time_to_Kill#M16_.28SP1.29 but that wasn't explained in the movie, only in the book. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 10:14, 1 June 2017 (EDT)		::We could still pass this off as the mob connection to someone in the military that smuggled them some M16A1s. That's how they explained how Sam Jackson got an M16 when he starred in http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/A_Time_to_Kill#M16_.28SP1.29 but that wasn't explained in the movie, only in the book. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 10:14, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
	::: Would still be as I said very unlikely. But not impossible, certainly. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:41, 1 June 2017 (EDT)		::: Would still be as I said very unlikely. But not impossible, certainly. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:41, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
			::::Don't forget this is around the time of [[American Gangster\|Frank Lucas]] smuggling heroin straight from SE Asia through the US military, so it seems kinda plausible for firearms from the Vietnam conflict to come stateside this way.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 17:22, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
	I agree that the 20-round magazine would be a better option than the 30-round one in the game since either these were more common in 1968 or 30-round magazines weren't produced yet. By the way, do I sign a post?		I agree that the 20-round magazine would be a better option than the 30-round one in the game since either these were more common in 1968 or 30-round magazines weren't produced yet. By the way, do I sign a post?
	: There's a signature icon at the top of the edit field, that or just type this: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> as stated in your talk page. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:33, 31 May 2017 (EDT)		: There's a signature icon at the top of the edit field, that or just type this: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> as stated in your talk page. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:33, 31 May 2017 (EDT)

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	:: Good point, but keep in mind the commercial rifles were only ever SP1s during this time and for a while after; A1-style receiver commercial guns weren't around 'til the 80s. The rifle in this game, meanwhile, is clearly modeled after an M16A1. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 02:54, 1 June 2017 (EDT)		:: Good point, but keep in mind the commercial rifles were only ever SP1s during this time and for a while after; A1-style receiver commercial guns weren't around 'til the 80s. The rifle in this game, meanwhile, is clearly modeled after an M16A1. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 02:54, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
	::We could still pass this off as the mob connection to someone in the military that smuggled them some M16A1s. That's how they explained how Sam Jackson got an M16 when he starred in http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/A_Time_to_Kill#M16_.28SP1.29 but that wasn't explained in the movie, only in the book. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 10:14, 1 June 2017 (EDT)		::We could still pass this off as the mob connection to someone in the military that smuggled them some M16A1s. That's how they explained how Sam Jackson got an M16 when he starred in http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/A_Time_to_Kill#M16_.28SP1.29 but that wasn't explained in the movie, only in the book. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 10:14, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
			::: Would still be as I said very unlikely. But not impossible, certainly. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:41, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
	I agree that the 20-round magazine would be a better option than the 30-round one in the game since either these were more common in 1968 or 30-round magazines weren't produced yet. By the way, do I sign a post?		I agree that the 20-round magazine would be a better option than the 30-round one in the game since either these were more common in 1968 or 30-round magazines weren't produced yet. By the way, do I sign a post?
	: There's a signature icon at the top of the edit field, that or just type this: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> as stated in your talk page. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:33, 31 May 2017 (EDT)		: There's a signature icon at the top of the edit field, that or just type this: <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> as stated in your talk page. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:33, 31 May 2017 (EDT)