Talk:Mafia II - Revision history

Slon95: /* 3 Stars */ new section

2020-07-12T23:13:34Z

3 Stars: new section

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	[[Image:Mafia II Tank.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|]]		[[Image:Mafia II Tank.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|]]
	Or is it a "hybrid"? - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] ([[User talk:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|talk]]) 09:29, 21 October 2012 (EDT)		Or is it a "hybrid"? - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] ([[User talk:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|talk]]) 09:29, 21 October 2012 (EDT)

			== 3 Stars ==

			Still, I wonder on the 3rd wanted level icon, if this is Model 19 or maybe a more prosaic Model 15? I know this is hard to see, and the difference is not so big, but perhaps our experts will say more specifically. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 19:13, 12 July 2020 (EDT)

Pyr0m4n14c: /* Mauser C96 change */

2017-04-15T15:04:41Z

Mauser C96 change

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	Why was the Mauser C96 changed to a Type 17? Yes, it may use .45 ammo ingame and have a detachable magazine (which the Shansi didn't have anyways) but it is clearly modeled after a standard C96. Any input? I will change it back if we all agree or nobody does before I get to it. --[[User:ColonelTomb\|ColonelTomb]] 20:50, 1 December 2011 (CST)		Why was the Mauser C96 changed to a Type 17? Yes, it may use .45 ammo ingame and have a detachable magazine (which the Shansi didn't have anyways) but it is clearly modeled after a standard C96. Any input? I will change it back if we all agree or nobody does before I get to it. --[[User:ColonelTomb\|ColonelTomb]] 20:50, 1 December 2011 (CST)
	* I think because there's only two 9mm weapons in the game but I think 4 in .45 ACP, so it would have been logistically simpler to just make both semi-automatics take the same ammo instead of making every pistol take different ammo. [[User:Chitoryu12\|Chitoryu12]] 12:23, 10 April 2012 (CDT)		* I think because there's only two 9mm weapons in the game but I think 4 in .45 ACP, so it would have been logistically simpler to just make both semi-automatics take the same ammo instead of making every pistol take different ammo. [[User:Chitoryu12\|Chitoryu12]] 12:23, 10 April 2012 (CDT)
			::I know that this is an old discussion, but why didn't they just make it fire 9mm ammo? All it'd take is a simple texture change to put a red 9 on the grip, turning it into, well, a Red 9. As for the detachable magazine, well, that's just the devs not wanting to make a complicated reload animation that's different when the gun is or isn't empty. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 11:04, 15 April 2017 (EDT)

	== Browning M2 Aircraft ==		== Browning M2 Aircraft ==

Slon95 at 13:33, 7 March 2016

2016-03-07T13:33:58Z

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	~~==Cut Weapons==~~
	Throughout the development of the Mafia II, there have been many changes to the content, including cut missions, vehicles, and weapons. Here is a summary of the currently known weapons that have been removed.

	~~===M14===~~
	~~The [[M14]] rifle was to appear in the game, among other firearms, but then for some reason, it has been removed. It can found be only in the game's resources~~
	~~[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]~~
	~~[[Image:M14r.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|The model of the removed M14 rifle.]]~~

	~~===Maxim M1910===~~
	The [[Maxim M1910]] was to appear in the ''Joe’s Adventures'' DLC, and clearly intended for use by enemies in one of the missions, but was later removed, as well as many other content. You can see it only in the Test Scene (which can be unlocked with the help of modifications).
	~~[[File:Maxim-M1910-Smooth-water-jacket.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Maxim 1910, simplified version with smooth water jacket - 7.62x54mmR]]~~
	~~[[Image:Mafia 2 Cut Maxim.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|The Maxim M1910, as it appears in the Joe’s Adventures' Test Scene.]]~~

	~~===Model 24 Stielhandgranate===~~
	This is perhaps the most interesting removed weapon, as it is fully operational, and has its own HUD icon. It seems, that originally they had actively used by a player (and, quite possibly, and NPC), but in the end the role of the M24 grenades has been reduced to only episodic appearance. The player can use the Model 24 Stielhandgranate if he modifies the game's files.
	~~[[Image:24-43 grenade.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Model 24 Stielhandgranate High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]~~
	~~[[Image:Mafia 2 M24 Stielhandgranate.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Joe holds Stielhandgranate.]]~~

	~~===Kar98k sniper rifle===~~
	~~About this removed weapon, little is known.~~
	All that is left of him in the game's resources - pieces of the game's code; no associated model appear to exist for it. This clearly indicates that this weapon from the game has been removed at an early stage of development.
	~~[[Image:Mauser g98 Sniper.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Karabiner 98k Sniper with Zeiss ZF42 scope - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]~~

	==.38 Special==		==.38 Special==
	It's a Colt Detective Special Nickel 3rd Gen model - [[User:SmithandWesson36\|SmthandWesson36]]		It's a Colt Detective Special Nickel 3rd Gen model - [[User:SmithandWesson36\|SmthandWesson36]]

Slon95: /* Cut Weapons */

2016-03-05T19:27:13Z

Cut Weapons

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	==Cut Weapons==		==Cut Weapons==
	~~The certain~~ weapons ~~were~~ removed ~~from the game~~.		Throughout the development of the Mafia II, there have been many changes to the content, including cut missions, vehicles, and weapons. Here is a summary of the currently known weapons that have been removed.

	===M14===		===M14===
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	===Maxim M1910===		===Maxim M1910===
	The [[Maxim M1910]] was to appear in the ''Joe’s Adventures'' DLC, and clearly intended for use in one of the missions ~~by NPC~~, but was later removed, as well as many other content. You can see it only in the Test Scene (which can be unlocked with the help of modifications).		The [[Maxim M1910]] was to appear in the ''Joe’s Adventures'' DLC, and clearly intended for use by enemies in one of the missions, but was later removed, as well as many other content. You can see it only in the Test Scene (which can be unlocked with the help of modifications).
	[[File:Maxim-M1910-Smooth-water-jacket.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Maxim 1910, simplified version with smooth water jacket - 7.62x54mmR]]		[[File:Maxim-M1910-Smooth-water-jacket.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Maxim 1910, simplified version with smooth water jacket - 7.62x54mmR]]
	[[Image:Mafia 2 Cut Maxim.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|The Maxim M1910, as it appears in the Joe’s Adventures' Test Scene.]]		[[Image:Mafia 2 Cut Maxim.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|The Maxim M1910, as it appears in the Joe’s Adventures' Test Scene.]]

	===Model 24 Stielhandgranate===		===Model 24 Stielhandgranate===
	This is perhaps the most interesting removed weapon, as it is fully operational, and has its own HUD icon. It seems, that originally they had actively used by a player (and, quite possibly, and NPC), but in the end the role of the grenades has been reduced to only episodic appearance. The player can use the Model 24 Stielhandgranate if he modifies the game's files.		This is perhaps the most interesting removed weapon, as it is fully operational, and has its own HUD icon. It seems, that originally they had actively used by a player (and, quite possibly, and NPC), but in the end the role of the M24 grenades has been reduced to only episodic appearance. The player can use the Model 24 Stielhandgranate if he modifies the game's files.
	[[Image:24-43 grenade.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Model 24 Stielhandgranate High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]		[[Image:24-43 grenade.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Model 24 Stielhandgranate High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
	[[Image:Mafia 2 M24 Stielhandgranate.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Joe holds Stielhandgranate.]]		[[Image:Mafia 2 M24 Stielhandgranate.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Joe holds Stielhandgranate.]]
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	All that is left of him in the game's resources - pieces of the game's code; no associated model appear to exist for it. This clearly indicates that this weapon from the game has been removed at an early stage of development.		All that is left of him in the game's resources - pieces of the game's code; no associated model appear to exist for it. This clearly indicates that this weapon from the game has been removed at an early stage of development.
	[[Image:Mauser g98 Sniper.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Karabiner 98k Sniper with Zeiss ZF42 scope - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]		[[Image:Mauser g98 Sniper.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Karabiner 98k Sniper with Zeiss ZF42 scope - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]


	==.38 Special==		==.38 Special==

Slon95 at 17:45, 5 March 2016

2016-03-05T17:45:46Z

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			==Cut Weapons==
			The certain weapons were removed from the game.

			===M14===
			The [[M14]] rifle was to appear in the game, among other firearms, but then for some reason, it has been removed. It can found be only in the game's resources
			[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
			[[Image:M14r.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|The model of the removed M14 rifle.]]

			===Maxim M1910===
			The [[Maxim M1910]] was to appear in the ''Joe’s Adventures'' DLC, and clearly intended for use in one of the missions by NPC, but was later removed, as well as many other content. You can see it only in the Test Scene (which can be unlocked with the help of modifications).
			[[File:Maxim-M1910-Smooth-water-jacket.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Maxim 1910, simplified version with smooth water jacket - 7.62x54mmR]]
			[[Image:Mafia 2 Cut Maxim.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|The Maxim M1910, as it appears in the Joe’s Adventures' Test Scene.]]

			===Model 24 Stielhandgranate===
			This is perhaps the most interesting removed weapon, as it is fully operational, and has its own HUD icon. It seems, that originally they had actively used by a player (and, quite possibly, and NPC), but in the end the role of the grenades has been reduced to only episodic appearance. The player can use the Model 24 Stielhandgranate if he modifies the game's files.
			[[Image:24-43 grenade.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Model 24 Stielhandgranate High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
			[[Image:Mafia 2 M24 Stielhandgranate.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Joe holds Stielhandgranate.]]

			===Kar98k sniper rifle===
			About this removed weapon, little is known.
			All that is left of him in the game's resources - pieces of the game's code; no associated model appear to exist for it. This clearly indicates that this weapon from the game has been removed at an early stage of development.
			[[Image:Mauser g98 Sniper.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Karabiner 98k Sniper with Zeiss ZF42 scope - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]


	==.38 Special==		==.38 Special==
	It's a Colt Detective Special Nickel 3rd Gen model - [[User:SmithandWesson36\|SmthandWesson36]]		It's a Colt Detective Special Nickel 3rd Gen model - [[User:SmithandWesson36\|SmthandWesson36]]

Bozitojugg3rn4ut: /* Browning M2 Aircraft */ forgot to sign

2012-10-21T13:29:48Z

Browning M2 Aircraft: forgot to sign

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	A stupid question: Was the M2 Aircraft available with spade grips and M2HB style sights?		A stupid question: Was the M2 Aircraft available with spade grips and M2HB style sights?
	[[Image:Mafia II Tank.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|]]		[[Image:Mafia II Tank.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|]]
	Or is it a "hybrid"?		Or is it a "hybrid"? - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] ([[User talk:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|talk]]) 09:29, 21 October 2012 (EDT)

Bozitojugg3rn4ut: /* Browning M2 Aircraft */ new section

2012-10-21T12:21:31Z

Browning M2 Aircraft: new section

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	Why was the Mauser C96 changed to a Type 17? Yes, it may use .45 ammo ingame and have a detachable magazine (which the Shansi didn't have anyways) but it is clearly modeled after a standard C96. Any input? I will change it back if we all agree or nobody does before I get to it. --[[User:ColonelTomb\|ColonelTomb]] 20:50, 1 December 2011 (CST)		Why was the Mauser C96 changed to a Type 17? Yes, it may use .45 ammo ingame and have a detachable magazine (which the Shansi didn't have anyways) but it is clearly modeled after a standard C96. Any input? I will change it back if we all agree or nobody does before I get to it. --[[User:ColonelTomb\|ColonelTomb]] 20:50, 1 December 2011 (CST)
	* I think because there's only two 9mm weapons in the game but I think 4 in .45 ACP, so it would have been logistically simpler to just make both semi-automatics take the same ammo instead of making every pistol take different ammo. [[User:Chitoryu12\|Chitoryu12]] 12:23, 10 April 2012 (CDT)		* I think because there's only two 9mm weapons in the game but I think 4 in .45 ACP, so it would have been logistically simpler to just make both semi-automatics take the same ammo instead of making every pistol take different ammo. [[User:Chitoryu12\|Chitoryu12]] 12:23, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

			== Browning M2 Aircraft ==

			A stupid question: Was the M2 Aircraft available with spade grips and M2HB style sights?
			[[Image:Mafia II Tank.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|]]
			Or is it a "hybrid"?

Mercury: /* Is it really that special ? */

2012-05-11T07:04:51Z

Is it really that special ?

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	From what I remember, it only shoots semi-auto. So it's more of just a high capacity pistol. I wished it was full auto [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] 07:20, 5 March 2011 (MSK)		From what I remember, it only shoots semi-auto. So it's more of just a high capacity pistol. I wished it was full auto [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] 07:20, 5 March 2011 (MSK)

			It shoots faster in semi-auto than the normal M1911 --[[User:Mercury\|Mercury]] 02:04, 11 May 2012 (CDT)

	== Dissapointed there was no double-barreled shotgun. ==		== Dissapointed there was no double-barreled shotgun. ==

Chitoryu12: /* Mauser C96 change */

2012-04-10T17:23:58Z

Mauser C96 change

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	Why was the Mauser C96 changed to a Type 17? Yes, it may use .45 ammo ingame and have a detachable magazine (which the Shansi didn't have anyways) but it is clearly modeled after a standard C96. Any input? I will change it back if we all agree or nobody does before I get to it. --[[User:ColonelTomb\|ColonelTomb]] 20:50, 1 December 2011 (CST)		Why was the Mauser C96 changed to a Type 17? Yes, it may use .45 ammo ingame and have a detachable magazine (which the Shansi didn't have anyways) but it is clearly modeled after a standard C96. Any input? I will change it back if we all agree or nobody does before I get to it. --[[User:ColonelTomb\|ColonelTomb]] 20:50, 1 December 2011 (CST)
			* I think because there's only two 9mm weapons in the game but I think 4 in .45 ACP, so it would have been logistically simpler to just make both semi-automatics take the same ammo instead of making every pistol take different ammo. [[User:Chitoryu12\|Chitoryu12]] 12:23, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

BonzoBoi1999: /* 1911a1 */

2012-03-25T17:28:42Z

1911a1

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	thanks for the great page		thanks for the great page



			I don't think he has a shoulder rig because if he is wearing a shirt and trousers he still draws it the same way so that could be a glitch or he tucks it into the side of his trousers.

	==anachronisms and questions==		==anachronisms and questions==