Talk:MP 40 - Revision history

Alex T Snow: Alex T Snow moved page Talk:MP40 to Talk:MP 40: German name consistency, I think one of the last ones.

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Alex T Snow moved page Talk:MP40 to Talk:MP 40: German name consistency, I think one of the last ones.

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	[[File:MP 38 Left Side.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|MP38 - 9x19mm]]		[[File:MP 38 Left Side.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|MP38 - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:MP 38 Folding Stock.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|MP38 with stock extended - 9x19mm]]		[[File:MP 38 Folding Stock.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|MP38 with stock extended - 9x19mm]]
	~~[[Image:Mp40i2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MP40/I Dual Magazine System - 9x19mm]]~~

	==Airsoft and Non-Firing Variants==		==Airsoft and Non-Firing Variants==

Mateogala: /* Additional Images */

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			[[Image:MP38 2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MP38 - 9x19mm]]
			[[Image:MP38L 2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MP38(L) - 9x19mm. L-Leicht (Light). The weapon has aluminum components to reduce weight.]]
	[[File:MP 38 Left Side.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|MP38 - 9x19mm]]		[[File:MP 38 Left Side.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|MP38 - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:MP 38 Folding Stock.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|MP38 with stock extended - 9x19mm]]		[[File:MP 38 Folding Stock.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|MP38 with stock extended - 9x19mm]]

Ominae at 06:52, 30 January 2022

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	[[File:Denix MP40.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Denix non-firing replica of MP40]]		[[File:Denix MP40.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Denix non-firing replica of MP40]]

	==MP40s in low budget Australian movies==		=MP40s in low budget Australian movies=

	One thing I've noticed from being on this site, is how many MP40s are used in low budget Australian movies. Is the MP40 really that inexpensive? --[[User:Jackbel\|Jackbel]] 12:04, 20 December 2010 (UTC)		One thing I've noticed from being on this site, is how many MP40s are used in low budget Australian movies. Is the MP40 really that inexpensive? --[[User:Jackbel\|Jackbel]] 12:04, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
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	:Given the numbers lurking around from various WW2 movies, I imagine blank-firing MP40s aren't exactly the hardest thing in the world to get hold of. Wikipedia says the Norwegian Army was still using the MP40 in the 70s, there's a German semi-auto version called the BD38, and that Star and Zastava make MP40 clones; in other words, it's not like this is a rare or even really an out-of-production weapon. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] 01:31, 25 August 2011 (CDT)		:Given the numbers lurking around from various WW2 movies, I imagine blank-firing MP40s aren't exactly the hardest thing in the world to get hold of. Wikipedia says the Norwegian Army was still using the MP40 in the 70s, there's a German semi-auto version called the BD38, and that Star and Zastava make MP40 clones; in other words, it's not like this is a rare or even really an out-of-production weapon. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] 01:31, 25 August 2011 (CDT)

	== Fire mode ==		=Fire mode=

	I notice that the fire modes section of the specifications are listed as unknown. I'm under the impression that these weapons are full-auto only, but thought I'd ask for confirmation of this before I changed anything. I'm fairly sure I'm correct in regards to the MP-40, but I can't be certain about the MP-38 & MP-41. [[User:Jimmoy\|Jimmoy]] ([[User talk:Jimmoy\|talk]]) 08:47, 9 January 2013 (EST)		I notice that the fire modes section of the specifications are listed as unknown. I'm under the impression that these weapons are full-auto only, but thought I'd ask for confirmation of this before I changed anything. I'm fairly sure I'm correct in regards to the MP-40, but I can't be certain about the MP-38 & MP-41. [[User:Jimmoy\|Jimmoy]] ([[User talk:Jimmoy\|talk]]) 08:47, 9 January 2013 (EST)

	== MP40 in 'Countdown' ==		=MP40 in 'Countdown'=

	Here’s a nice one for MP40 aficionados: in a behind-the-scenes shot from [[Countdown (Lichnyy nomer)]], an armorer is playing around with an MP40 that has a picatinny mounted red dot sight. It’s not seen in the actual movie so it is probably something put together just for the fun of it, [[User:PeeWee055\|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055\|talk]]) 10:03, 4 December 2013 (EST)		Here’s a nice one for MP40 aficionados: in a behind-the-scenes shot from [[Countdown (Lichnyy nomer)]], an armorer is playing around with an MP40 that has a picatinny mounted red dot sight. It’s not seen in the actual movie so it is probably something put together just for the fun of it, [[User:PeeWee055\|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055\|talk]]) 10:03, 4 December 2013 (EST)
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	Funny, I accidentally found what this gun is. Sadly, it's not a real gun but only [https://rc-today.ru/UserFiles/Image/a7/64/avtomat_mp40_shmayser_hc_m40g_5b27572f3fa27_2282_big.jpg a toy gun named HC-M40G] of HC-Toys. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:11, 6 June 2020 (EDT)		Funny, I accidentally found what this gun is. Sadly, it's not a real gun but only [https://rc-today.ru/UserFiles/Image/a7/64/avtomat_mp40_shmayser_hc_m40g_5b27572f3fa27_2282_big.jpg a toy gun named HC-M40G] of HC-Toys. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:11, 6 June 2020 (EDT)

	== Spring failures in other MP 40 variants? ==		=Spring failures in other MP 40 variants?=

	This has been bugging me a while. I know the MP 40 could suffer spring failures if fully loaded, but i haven't seen references to such issues regarding the MP 38 and MP 41. So my question is whether they suffered the same problem or if it was unique to the MP 40?		This has been bugging me a while. I know the MP 40 could suffer spring failures if fully loaded, but i haven't seen references to such issues regarding the MP 38 and MP 41. So my question is whether they suffered the same problem or if it was unique to the MP 40?
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	:Given how the magazines were the issue here, I'd imagine that any gun that can take MP40 magazines would have MP40 magazine problems.		:Given how the magazines were the issue here, I'd imagine that any gun that can take MP40 magazines would have MP40 magazine problems.

	== MP40/II ==		=MP40/II=

	Okay, so what's the deal with this thing? Does it feed from both magazines at once? Does the second magazine well simply serve to hold another magazine for quicker reloads? I really don't get it. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 21:44, 23 April 2017 (EDT)		Okay, so what's the deal with this thing? Does it feed from both magazines at once? Does the second magazine well simply serve to hold another magazine for quicker reloads? I really don't get it. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 21:44, 23 April 2017 (EDT)
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	::According to Forgotten Weapons, the correct name of this low production weapon was actually MP40/I, and not "MP40/II" as sometimes referred to. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 18:20, 24 April 2017 (EDT)		::According to Forgotten Weapons, the correct name of this low production weapon was actually MP40/I, and not "MP40/II" as sometimes referred to. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 18:20, 24 April 2017 (EDT)

	== "Incorrect" Gripping ==		="Incorrect" Gripping=

	Stumbled across [http://library.centerofthewest.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p17097coll30/id/510/rv/singleitem this set of photos] while doing some browsing; apparently, they're part of a German manual or official document of some description regarding shooting positions for the P08 and MP38. Notably, the soldiers holding the latter seem to be holding it near-exclusively by the magazine well/magazine, indicating that the practice was, to some extent, official (or at least officially accepted). Would this mean that it's not incorrect to hold it like that? I mean, it's obviously wrong to hold the end of the mag, but holding it like this is apparently OK, at least by the standards of the people who issued the thing. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 23:10, 4 May 2020 (EDT)		Stumbled across [http://library.centerofthewest.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p17097coll30/id/510/rv/singleitem this set of photos] while doing some browsing; apparently, they're part of a German manual or official document of some description regarding shooting positions for the P08 and MP38. Notably, the soldiers holding the latter seem to be holding it near-exclusively by the magazine well/magazine, indicating that the practice was, to some extent, official (or at least officially accepted). Would this mean that it's not incorrect to hold it like that? I mean, it's obviously wrong to hold the end of the mag, but holding it like this is apparently OK, at least by the standards of the people who issued the thing. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 23:10, 4 May 2020 (EDT)

Greg-Z: /* Additional Variants */

2022-01-29T15:54:12Z

Additional Variants

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			[[File:MP 38 Left Side.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|MP38 - 9x19mm]]
			[[File:MP 38 Folding Stock.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|MP38 with stock extended - 9x19mm]]
	[[Image:Mp40i2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MP40/I Dual Magazine System - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:Mp40i2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MP40/I Dual Magazine System - 9x19mm]]

			==Airsoft and Non-Firing Variants==
	[[Image:MGCMP40.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MGC replica MP40 <!--ALLEGEDLY converted to fire 9x9mm blanks; needs confirmation on whether or not this is true-->]]		[[Image:MGCMP40.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MGC replica MP40 <!--ALLEGEDLY converted to fire 9x9mm blanks; needs confirmation on whether or not this is true-->]]
			[[File:DE MP40 orange barrel.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|'''Airsoft''' Double Eagle MP40 submachine gun with picatinny rail - (fake) 9x19mm]]
	[[File:Denix MP40.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Denix non-firing replica of MP40]]		[[File:Denix MP40.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Denix non-firing replica of MP40]]

	~~===Airsoft Variants===~~

	~~[[File:DE MP40 orange barrel.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|'''Airsoft''' Double Eagle MP40 submachine gun with picatinny rail - (fake) 9x19mm]]~~

	==MP40s in low budget Australian movies==		==MP40s in low budget Australian movies==

Greg-Z: /* Additional Variants */

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Additional Variants

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	==Additional Variants==		==Additional Variants==
	[[Image:Mp40i2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~400px~~\|MP40/I Dual Magazine System - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:Mp40i2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MP40/I Dual Magazine System - 9x19mm]]
	[[Image:MGCMP40.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~400px~~\|MGC replica MP40 <!--ALLEGEDLY converted to fire 9x9mm blanks; needs confirmation on whether or not this is true-->]]		[[Image:MGCMP40.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MGC replica MP40 <!--ALLEGEDLY converted to fire 9x9mm blanks; needs confirmation on whether or not this is true-->]]
			[[File:Denix MP40.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Denix non-firing replica of MP40]]

	===Airsoft Variants===		===Airsoft Variants===

Greg-Z: /* MP40 in 'Countdown' */

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MP40 in 'Countdown'

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	:::::::The complete thread is here: [http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?173498-The-Madsen-machine-gun-not-quite-dead-yet The Madsen machine gun not quite dead yet] -- [[User:Phillb36\|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36\|talk]]) 22:31, 5 December 2013 (EST)		:::::::The complete thread is here: [http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?173498-The-Madsen-machine-gun-not-quite-dead-yet The Madsen machine gun not quite dead yet] -- [[User:Phillb36\|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36\|talk]]) 22:31, 5 December 2013 (EST)
	:A reliable source confirmed to me that until end 1994 security forces at Schiphol, the main international airport here in Holland, were equipped with the [[M1 Carbine]]! That year, they switched to the [[Heckler & Koch MP5A2]] which is still in use today, [[User:PeeWee055\|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055\|talk]]) 05:45, 11 December 2013 (EST)		:A reliable source confirmed to me that until end 1994 security forces at Schiphol, the main international airport here in Holland, were equipped with the [[M1 Carbine]]! That year, they switched to the [[Heckler & Koch MP5A2]] which is still in use today, [[User:PeeWee055\|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055\|talk]]) 05:45, 11 December 2013 (EST)

			Funny, I accidentally found what this gun is. Sadly, it's not a real gun but only [https://rc-today.ru/UserFiles/Image/a7/64/avtomat_mp40_shmayser_hc_m40g_5b27572f3fa27_2282_big.jpg a toy gun named HC-M40G] of HC-Toys. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:11, 6 June 2020 (EDT)

	== Spring failures in other MP 40 variants? ==		== Spring failures in other MP 40 variants? ==

Pyr0m4n14c: /* "Incorrect" Gripping */ new section

2020-05-05T03:10:28Z

"Incorrect" Gripping: new section

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	:It works kind of like a KSG or UTS-15 AFAIK, where a tab behind the magwell selects whichever magazine is currently feeding into the gun. At least that's how it works in Red Orchestra 2.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 23:27, 23 April 2017 (EDT)		:It works kind of like a KSG or UTS-15 AFAIK, where a tab behind the magwell selects whichever magazine is currently feeding into the gun. At least that's how it works in Red Orchestra 2.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 23:27, 23 April 2017 (EDT)
	::According to Forgotten Weapons, the correct name of this low production weapon was actually MP40/I, and not "MP40/II" as sometimes referred to. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 18:20, 24 April 2017 (EDT)		::According to Forgotten Weapons, the correct name of this low production weapon was actually MP40/I, and not "MP40/II" as sometimes referred to. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 18:20, 24 April 2017 (EDT)

			== "Incorrect" Gripping ==

			Stumbled across [http://library.centerofthewest.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p17097coll30/id/510/rv/singleitem this set of photos] while doing some browsing; apparently, they're part of a German manual or official document of some description regarding shooting positions for the P08 and MP38. Notably, the soldiers holding the latter seem to be holding it near-exclusively by the magazine well/magazine, indicating that the practice was, to some extent, official (or at least officially accepted). Would this mean that it's not incorrect to hold it like that? I mean, it's obviously wrong to hold the end of the mag, but holding it like this is apparently OK, at least by the standards of the people who issued the thing. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 23:10, 4 May 2020 (EDT)

Wuzh at 22:11, 14 April 2019

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	==Additional Variants==		==Additional Variants==
	[[Image:Mp40i2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MP40/I Dual Magazine System - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:Mp40i2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MP40/I Dual Magazine System - 9x19mm]]
	[[Image:MGCMP40.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|]]		[[Image:MGCMP40.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC replica MP40 <!--ALLEGEDLY converted to fire 9x9mm blanks; needs confirmation on whether or not this is true-->]]

	===Airsoft Variants===		===Airsoft Variants===

Wuzh: /* Additional Variants */

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	==Additional Variants==		==Additional Variants==
	[[Image:Mp40i2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MP40/I Dual Magazine System - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:Mp40i2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MP40/I Dual Magazine System - 9x19mm]]
	‎[[Image:MGCMP40.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|]]		[[Image:MGCMP40.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|]]

	===Airsoft Variants===		===Airsoft Variants===