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Mateogala: /* Additional images */

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	== Additional images ==		== Additional images ==
			[[File:MG42 Early Left.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG42 Early Left - 7.92x57mm Mauser. The characteristic feature of the early model is a white grip cladding made of metal and a horizontal charging handle.]]
			[[File:MG42 Early Right.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG42 Early Right - 7.92x57mm Mauser. The characteristic feature of the early model is a white grip cladding made of metal and a horizontal charging handle.]]
	[[File:MG42Bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG42 with bipod extended - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]		[[File:MG42Bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG42 with bipod extended - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
	[[Image:mg42drummag.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG42 with drum magazine - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]		[[Image:mg42drummag.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG42 with drum magazine - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]

Mateogala at 11:55, 21 September 2022

2022-09-21T11:55:44Z

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	[[Image:mg42drummag.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG42 with drum magazine - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]		[[Image:mg42drummag.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG42 with drum magazine - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
	[[File:MG3 no bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG3 with no bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]		[[File:MG3 no bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG3 with no bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
	~~[[Image:MG45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG45 (MG 42V) - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]~~

	=Discussion=		=Discussion=

Mateogala at 10:47, 21 September 2022

2022-09-21T10:47:56Z

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	== Additional images ==		== Additional images ==
	[[File:MG42Bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~400px~~\|MG42 with bipod extended - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]		[[File:MG42Bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG42 with bipod extended - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
	[[Image:mg42drummag.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~400px~~\|MG42 with drum magazine - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]		[[Image:mg42drummag.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG42 with drum magazine - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
	[[File:MG3 no bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG3 with no bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]		[[File:MG3 no bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG3 with no bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
	[[Image:MG45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~400px~~\|MG45 (MG 42V) - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]		[[Image:MG45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG45 (MG 42V) - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]

	=Discussion=		=Discussion=

Mateogala at 10:47, 21 September 2022

2022-09-21T10:47:30Z

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	== Additional images ==		== Additional images ==
	[[File:MG42Bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MG42 with bipod extended - 7.~~92mm~~ Mauser]]		[[File:MG42Bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MG42 with bipod extended - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
	[[Image:mg42drummag.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MG42 with drum magazine - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]		[[Image:mg42drummag.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MG42 with drum magazine - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
	[[File:MG3 no bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG3 with no bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]		[[File:MG3 no bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG3 with no bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
			[[Image:MG45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MG45 (MG 42V) - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]

	=Discussion=		=Discussion=

JackalUnderscore at 09:03, 22 August 2021

2021-08-22T09:03:48Z

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	[[File:MG3 no bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG3 with no bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]		[[File:MG3 no bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG3 with no bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]

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	==CETME==		==CETME==
	CETME Ameli (please note capitals as CETME is a abbreviation) Is not a minaturised MG42/MG3 it is in fact a SAW variant of the CETME 5.56mm rifles like the H&K 21/23 machine guns and works on delayed blowback not the short recoil of the MG42/MG3		CETME Ameli (please note capitals as CETME is a abbreviation) Is not a minaturised MG42/MG3 it is in fact a SAW variant of the CETME 5.56mm rifles like the H&K 21/23 machine guns and works on delayed blowback not the short recoil of the MG42/MG3

Ominae: /* Additional images */

2020-11-11T09:21:08Z

Additional images

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	[[File:MG42Bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MG42 with bipod extended - 7.92mm Mauser]]		[[File:MG42Bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MG42 with bipod extended - 7.92mm Mauser]]
	[[Image:mg42drummag.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MG42 with drum magazine - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]		[[Image:mg42drummag.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MG42 with drum magazine - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
			[[File:MG3 no bipod.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|MG3 with no bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO.]]

	==CETME==		==CETME==

Wuzh: Undo revision 1242883 by Wuzh (talk)

2019-01-03T16:29:59Z

Undo revision 1242883 by Wuzh (talk)

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	Now that we have the answer to the question, one more thing remains. The early MG42 used at this time of the war apparently had [https://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/forum/red-orchestra-2-rising-storm/ro2-rs-general/general-discussion-ab/69244-first-pic-of-mg42-in-stalingrad/page2 distinctive early horizontal charging handles]. According to [https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/german-mg42-first-model-slab-sided-470871325 this here] these first model "Slab sided" charging handles were used on the 1942 - early 1943 guns and were replaced by the common ratchet handles. Apparently the MG42 got its "classic" look at some point in 1943 so all the media portraying the classic MG42 being used in Stalingrad is fake news :D Bonus [https://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=1611 photo] of the gun with early handle allegedly at Stalingrad. --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 18:12, 18 December 2018 (EST)		Now that we have the answer to the question, one more thing remains. The early MG42 used at this time of the war apparently had [https://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/forum/red-orchestra-2-rising-storm/ro2-rs-general/general-discussion-ab/69244-first-pic-of-mg42-in-stalingrad/page2 distinctive early horizontal charging handles]. According to [https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/german-mg42-first-model-slab-sided-470871325 this here] these first model "Slab sided" charging handles were used on the 1942 - early 1943 guns and were replaced by the common ratchet handles. Apparently the MG42 got its "classic" look at some point in 1943 so all the media portraying the classic MG42 being used in Stalingrad is fake news :D Bonus [https://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=1611 photo] of the gun with early handle allegedly at Stalingrad. --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 18:12, 18 December 2018 (EST)

	~~Is it realistic for any film crew to obtain MG42 with slab sided charging handles for historical accuracy? --[[User:Wuzh\|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh\|talk]]) 11:14, 3 January 2019 (EST)~~

Wuzh: /* MG42 in Stalingrad */

2019-01-03T16:14:13Z

MG42 in Stalingrad

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	Now that we have the answer to the question, one more thing remains. The early MG42 used at this time of the war apparently had [https://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/forum/red-orchestra-2-rising-storm/ro2-rs-general/general-discussion-ab/69244-first-pic-of-mg42-in-stalingrad/page2 distinctive early horizontal charging handles]. According to [https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/german-mg42-first-model-slab-sided-470871325 this here] these first model "Slab sided" charging handles were used on the 1942 - early 1943 guns and were replaced by the common ratchet handles. Apparently the MG42 got its "classic" look at some point in 1943 so all the media portraying the classic MG42 being used in Stalingrad is fake news :D Bonus [https://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=1611 photo] of the gun with early handle allegedly at Stalingrad. --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 18:12, 18 December 2018 (EST)		Now that we have the answer to the question, one more thing remains. The early MG42 used at this time of the war apparently had [https://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/forum/red-orchestra-2-rising-storm/ro2-rs-general/general-discussion-ab/69244-first-pic-of-mg42-in-stalingrad/page2 distinctive early horizontal charging handles]. According to [https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/german-mg42-first-model-slab-sided-470871325 this here] these first model "Slab sided" charging handles were used on the 1942 - early 1943 guns and were replaced by the common ratchet handles. Apparently the MG42 got its "classic" look at some point in 1943 so all the media portraying the classic MG42 being used in Stalingrad is fake news :D Bonus [https://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=1611 photo] of the gun with early handle allegedly at Stalingrad. --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 18:12, 18 December 2018 (EST)

			Is it realistic for any film crew to obtain MG42 with slab sided charging handles for historical accuracy? --[[User:Wuzh\|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh\|talk]]) 11:14, 3 January 2019 (EST)

Nanomat: /* MG42 in Stalingrad */

2018-12-18T23:15:09Z

MG42 in Stalingrad

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	According to this [https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=1190847#p1190847 document from October 22, 1942], the MG42 was present on the front. [https://books.google.bg/books?id=sQE2DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT21&dq=mg42+stalingrad&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZ3OPDvKrfAhVBlCwKHUrbBkMQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=mg42%20stalingrad&f=false This] and [https://books.google.bg/books?id=qpHwAwAAQBAJ&pg=PT79&lpg=PT79&dq=mg42+at+stalingrad&source=bl&ots=ZWRmmNDpR2&sig=5cGWYfioaUef8OmgbLDpYZ2JcbQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjJ0qy0uqrfAhUhp4sKHdb9D6I4HhDoATAEegQIARAB#v=onepage&q=mg42%20at%20stalingrad&f=false this] also confirm the MG42 being at Stalingrad. However, we have to consider that it was still a rarity at this point (ratio of about 1 MG42 per 13 MG34s or so in the report) so liberal depiction of mass MG42 in media would be inaccurate and historical blasphemy :D		According to this [https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=1190847#p1190847 document from October 22, 1942], the MG42 was present on the front. [https://books.google.bg/books?id=sQE2DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT21&dq=mg42+stalingrad&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZ3OPDvKrfAhVBlCwKHUrbBkMQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=mg42%20stalingrad&f=false This] and [https://books.google.bg/books?id=qpHwAwAAQBAJ&pg=PT79&lpg=PT79&dq=mg42+at+stalingrad&source=bl&ots=ZWRmmNDpR2&sig=5cGWYfioaUef8OmgbLDpYZ2JcbQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjJ0qy0uqrfAhUhp4sKHdb9D6I4HhDoATAEegQIARAB#v=onepage&q=mg42%20at%20stalingrad&f=false this] also confirm the MG42 being at Stalingrad. However, we have to consider that it was still a rarity at this point (ratio of about 1 MG42 per 13 MG34s or so in the report) so liberal depiction of mass MG42 in media would be inaccurate and historical blasphemy :D

	Now that we have the answer to the question, one more thing remains. The early MG42 used at this time of the war apparently had [https://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/forum/red-orchestra-2-rising-storm/ro2-rs-general/general-discussion-ab/69244-first-pic-of-mg42-in-stalingrad/page2 distinctive early horizontal charging handles]. According to this here these first model "Slab sided" charging handles were used on the 1942 - early 1943 guns and were replaced by the common ratchet handles. Apparently the MG42 got its "classic" look at some point in 1943 so all the media portraying the classic MG42 being used in Stalingrad is fake news :D Bonus [https://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=1611 photo] of the gun with early handle allegedly at Stalingrad. --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 18:12, 18 December 2018 (EST)		Now that we have the answer to the question, one more thing remains. The early MG42 used at this time of the war apparently had [https://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/forum/red-orchestra-2-rising-storm/ro2-rs-general/general-discussion-ab/69244-first-pic-of-mg42-in-stalingrad/page2 distinctive early horizontal charging handles]. According to [https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/german-mg42-first-model-slab-sided-470871325 this here] these first model "Slab sided" charging handles were used on the 1942 - early 1943 guns and were replaced by the common ratchet handles. Apparently the MG42 got its "classic" look at some point in 1943 so all the media portraying the classic MG42 being used in Stalingrad is fake news :D Bonus [https://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=1611 photo] of the gun with early handle allegedly at Stalingrad. --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 18:12, 18 December 2018 (EST)