Talk:MAC-10 - Revision history

TheExplodingBarrel: /* Screen-Used Variants */

2023-10-19T05:20:48Z

Screen-Used Variants

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	[[File:Jamesgeorgopoulosjokermac10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 - .45 ACP. This is the screen-used firearm seen in ''[[The Dark Knight]]''. '''Thanks to [[User:Jimmygcreative\|James Georgopoulos]]'''.]]		[[File:Jamesgeorgopoulosjokermac10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 - .45 ACP. This is the screen-used firearm seen in ''[[The Dark Knight]]''. '''Thanks to [[User:Jimmygcreative\|James Georgopoulos]]'''.]]
	[[Image:McQMAC-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 used by [[John Wayne]] in the film ''[[McQ]]''- chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum. Suppressor is not the original. Image supplied by Long Mountain Outfitters.]]		[[Image:McQMAC-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 used by [[John Wayne]] in the film ''[[McQ]]''- chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum. Suppressor is not the original. Image supplied by Long Mountain Outfitters.]]
			[[File:SpawnfakeP90.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Cobray M11/9 mocked up as [[FN P90]], used in ''[[Spawn]]'' - 9x19mm Parabellum. Image from Long Mountain Outfitters.]]
			[[File:SpawnM11.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Customised Cobray M11/9 used in ''[[Spawn]]'' - 9x19mm Parabellum. Image from Long Mountian Outfitters.]]

	==Other Variants==		==Other Variants==

Yocapo32: /* Ingram Mark III, IV, and V */ new section

2022-02-12T10:39:14Z

Ingram Mark III, IV, and V: new section

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	[[File:Ingram MAC 10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MAC-10 with detachable barrel extension - .45 ACP]]		[[File:Ingram MAC 10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MAC-10 with detachable barrel extension - .45 ACP]]
	I've noticed that these guns (and some others) are often seen with shrouded "barrel extensions". Does this mean that they just have a smooth tube attached to the end of the barrel, or that the extension is an actual piece of rifled barrel screwed onto the existing one? And, if not the latter, would such a thing be feasible? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 09:26, 15 June 2020 (EDT)		I've noticed that these guns (and some others) are often seen with shrouded "barrel extensions". Does this mean that they just have a smooth tube attached to the end of the barrel, or that the extension is an actual piece of rifled barrel screwed onto the existing one? And, if not the latter, would such a thing be feasible? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 09:26, 15 June 2020 (EDT)

			== Ingram Mark III, IV, and V ==

			So, I came across a picture of a supposed catalog that allegedly was sent to Spanish speaking countries during the 80s in that weird time when Ingram tried branching out to global militaries, and found some absolutely ridiculous offerings, like a carbine sized version of the MAC-10 in ''.45 Winchester and .50 Ingram Magnum.'' I tried looking info online, and I could only find basic information, and some dude making jokes about compensation, would anyone happen to have any more information about them?
			Here are the photos I managed to snag from an auction and a forum.
			https://imgur.com/a/D9xVjzJ
			I'm fairly certain the photos are the wrong way around, since what it's calling the Mark IV which is chambered in .45 ACP is smaller than the one chambered in .22 Winchester Magnum. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 05:39, 12 February 2022 (EST)

TheExplodingBarrel: /* MAC-10/11 */

2022-01-28T15:07:12Z

MAC-10/11

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	[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]		[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]
	[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:M11A1 no stock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~500px~~\|RPB M11A1 with no stock - .380 ACP]]		[[File:M11A1 no stock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|RPB M11A1 with no stock - .380 ACP]]
	[[File:MGC MAC-11 suppressed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC suppressed Ingram MAC-11]]		[[File:MGC MAC-11 suppressed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC suppressed Ingram MAC-11]]

TheExplodingBarrel: /* Other derivatives */

2022-01-28T14:47:27Z

Other derivatives

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	[[File:MPA30DMG.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MasterPiece Arms MPA30DMG - 9x19mm]]		[[File:MPA30DMG.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MasterPiece Arms MPA30DMG - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:T77.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|T77 - 9x19mm]]		[[File:T77.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|T77 - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:MPA300DMG.JPG\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MasterPiece Arms ~~MPA300SMG~~ - 9x19mm]]		[[File:MPA300DMG.JPG\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MasterPiece Arms MPA300DMG - 9x19mm]]

	===Airsoft Images===		===Airsoft Images===

TheExplodingBarrel: /* Other derivatives */

2022-01-28T14:47:19Z

Other derivatives

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	[[File:MPA30DMG.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MasterPiece Arms MPA30DMG - 9x19mm]]		[[File:MPA30DMG.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MasterPiece Arms MPA30DMG - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:T77.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|T77 - 9x19mm]]		[[File:T77.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|T77 - 9x19mm]]
			[[File:MPA300DMG.JPG\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MasterPiece Arms MPA300SMG - 9x19mm]]

	===Airsoft Images===		===Airsoft Images===

Ominae: /* MAC-10/11 */

2022-01-06T03:42:04Z

MAC-10/11

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	[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]		[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]
	[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:M11A1 no stock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|~~RPG~~ M11A1 with no stock - .380 ACP]]		[[File:M11A1 no stock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|RPB M11A1 with no stock - .380 ACP]]
	[[File:MGC MAC-11 suppressed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC suppressed Ingram MAC-11]]		[[File:MGC MAC-11 suppressed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC suppressed Ingram MAC-11]]

Ominae at 15:22, 19 March 2021

2021-03-19T15:22:20Z

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	[[Image:TrueLiesMAC-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 was used by [[Jamie Lee Curtis]] in the film ''[[True Lies]]'' - 9x19mm Parabellum. When the gun fell down the flight of stairs, wire was wrapped around the trigger to get the effect.]]		[[Image:TrueLiesMAC-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 was used by [[Jamie Lee Curtis]] in the film ''[[True Lies]]'' - 9x19mm Parabellum. When the gun fell down the flight of stairs, wire was wrapped around the trigger to get the effect.]]
	[[Image:Blade mac11.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Blade's MAC-11 - .380 ACP. It is a rubber stunt version.]]		[[Image:Blade mac11.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Blade's MAC-11 - .380 ACP. It is a rubber stunt version.]]
			[[Image:Blade2-8-1-.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|The heavily modified MAC-10 used in the film ''[[Blade II]]''.]]
	[[File:Jamesgeorgopoulosjokermac10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 - .45 ACP. This is the screen-used firearm seen in ''[[The Dark Knight]]''. '''Thanks to [[User:Jimmygcreative\|James Georgopoulos]]'''.]]		[[File:Jamesgeorgopoulosjokermac10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 - .45 ACP. This is the screen-used firearm seen in ''[[The Dark Knight]]''. '''Thanks to [[User:Jimmygcreative\|James Georgopoulos]]'''.]]
	[[Image:McQMAC-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 used by [[John Wayne]] in the film ''[[McQ]]''- chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum. Suppressor is not the original. Image supplied by Long Mountain Outfitters.]]		[[Image:McQMAC-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 used by [[John Wayne]] in the film ''[[McQ]]''- chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum. Suppressor is not the original. Image supplied by Long Mountain Outfitters.]]
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	===MAC-10/11===		===MAC-10/11===
	~~[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]~~
	[[File:Jaws_m10_45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 fitted with the Jersey Arms Works collapsible buttstock - .45 ACP]]		[[File:Jaws_m10_45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 fitted with the Jersey Arms Works collapsible buttstock - .45 ACP]]
	[[Image:Ingram MAC 10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with detachable barrel extension - .45 ACP.]]		[[Image:Ingram MAC 10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with detachable barrel extension - .45 ACP.]]
	[[Image:~~Blade2-8-1~~-.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|~~The heavily modified~~ MAC-~~10 used in the film ''[[Blade II]]''~~.]]		[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]
	[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]
			[[File:M11A1 no stock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|RPG M11A1 with no stock - .380 ACP]]
	[[File:MGC MAC-11 suppressed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC suppressed Ingram MAC-11]]		[[File:MGC MAC-11 suppressed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC suppressed Ingram MAC-11]]
	~~[[File:GP221-L.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Airsoft Mac 11 with G&P scope mount]]~~

	===Other derivatives===		===Other derivatives===
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	[[File:MPA30DMG.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MasterPiece Arms MPA30DMG - 9x19mm]]		[[File:MPA30DMG.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MasterPiece Arms MPA30DMG - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:T77.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|T77 - 9x19mm]]		[[File:T77.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|T77 - 9x19mm]]

			===Airsoft Images===
			[[File:GP221-L.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Airsoft Mac 11 with G&P scope mount]]

	=Discussion=		=Discussion=

Ultimate94ninja: /* Other Variants */

2021-02-21T15:35:46Z

Other Variants

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	===MAC-10/11===		===MAC-10/11===
	[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|400px~~\|none~~\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]		[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]
	[[File:Jaws_m10_45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 fitted with the Jersey Arms Works collapsible buttstock - .45 ACP]]		[[File:Jaws_m10_45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 fitted with the Jersey Arms Works collapsible buttstock - .45 ACP]]
	[[Image:Ingram MAC 10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with detachable barrel extension - .45 ACP.]]		[[Image:Ingram MAC 10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with detachable barrel extension - .45 ACP.]]
	[[Image:Blade2-8-1-.jpg\|thumb\|400px~~\|none~~\|The heavily modified MAC-10 used in the film ''[[Blade II]]''.]]		[[Image:Blade2-8-1-.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|The heavily modified MAC-10 used in the film ''[[Blade II]]''.]]
	[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|400px~~\|none~~\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:GP221-L.jpg\|thumb\|400px~~\|none~~\|Airsoft Mac 11 with G&P scope mount]]		[[File:MGC MAC-11 suppressed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC suppressed Ingram MAC-11]]
			[[File:GP221-L.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Airsoft Mac 11 with G&P scope mount]]

	===Other derivatives===		===Other derivatives===
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	[[File:BXP Early Version.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Armscor/Mechem BXP, early version - 9x19mm]]		[[File:BXP Early Version.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Armscor/Mechem BXP, early version - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:Sca m11.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Stonycreek Armory Suomi upper installed on a SWD M11/9 SMG - 9x19mm]]		[[File:Sca m11.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Stonycreek Armory Suomi upper installed on a SWD M11/9 SMG - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:MPA30DMG.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~451px~~\|MasterPiece Arms MPA30DMG - 9x19mm]]		[[File:MPA30DMG.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MasterPiece Arms MPA30DMG - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:T77.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|T77 - 9x19mm]]		[[File:T77.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|T77 - 9x19mm]]

BrandonColeford1992: /* Other derivatives */

2020-08-04T04:36:57Z

Other derivatives

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	[[File:Sca m11.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Stonycreek Armory Suomi upper installed on a SWD M11/9 SMG - 9x19mm]]		[[File:Sca m11.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Stonycreek Armory Suomi upper installed on a SWD M11/9 SMG - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:MPA30DMG.jpg\|thumb\|none\|451px\|MasterPiece Arms MPA30DMG - 9x19mm]]		[[File:MPA30DMG.jpg\|thumb\|none\|451px\|MasterPiece Arms MPA30DMG - 9x19mm]]
			[[File:T77.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|T77 - 9x19mm]]

	=Discussion=		=Discussion=

Pyr0m4n14c: /* "Barrel Extensions" */ new section

2020-06-15T13:26:41Z

"Barrel Extensions": new section

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	:::The MAC-11 is pretty much just a baby version of the MAC-10 so it is pretty difficult to tell them apart. Pretty much the only reliable difference is that the MAC-11 is much smaller, being not much bigger than a regular pistol as oppsoed to the MAC-10 which is more like a brick. [http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/MAC10%20vs%20MAC11.jpg These] guns are airsoft, but the comaprison shows the difference in size between the two models. The reason I say that size is the only "reliable" indicator that I am aware of is that there are other indicators, but the problem is that the features of these guns vary a lot with manufacturer and when they were made. For example, a lot of MAC-10s have a flared sections on each size of the bottom of the magazine well, but not all. However, I beleive that this feature is never present on MAC-11s, so if you see this it is safe to say that it is a MAC-10. Similarly, I have never seen a MAC-10 without the holes in the sight protectors, so if there is a gun without holes it is a MAC-11, however not all MAC-11s have these holes. If it is hard to judge the size of a gun, the best you can really do is look at the proportions. For example, on an 11 the stock release button will be closer to the grip than the back of the receiver and on a 10 it is the other way round, and the back of the ejection port on 11s tends to be farther forward relative to the back of the magazine well, stuff like that. Another rough sort of guide is that on a 10 the ejection port is kind of the same size as the opening of the trigger guard, as opposed to the 11 where it is noticeably smaller. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 13:07, 27 November 2017 (EST)		:::The MAC-11 is pretty much just a baby version of the MAC-10 so it is pretty difficult to tell them apart. Pretty much the only reliable difference is that the MAC-11 is much smaller, being not much bigger than a regular pistol as oppsoed to the MAC-10 which is more like a brick. [http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/MAC10%20vs%20MAC11.jpg These] guns are airsoft, but the comaprison shows the difference in size between the two models. The reason I say that size is the only "reliable" indicator that I am aware of is that there are other indicators, but the problem is that the features of these guns vary a lot with manufacturer and when they were made. For example, a lot of MAC-10s have a flared sections on each size of the bottom of the magazine well, but not all. However, I beleive that this feature is never present on MAC-11s, so if you see this it is safe to say that it is a MAC-10. Similarly, I have never seen a MAC-10 without the holes in the sight protectors, so if there is a gun without holes it is a MAC-11, however not all MAC-11s have these holes. If it is hard to judge the size of a gun, the best you can really do is look at the proportions. For example, on an 11 the stock release button will be closer to the grip than the back of the receiver and on a 10 it is the other way round, and the back of the ejection port on 11s tends to be farther forward relative to the back of the magazine well, stuff like that. Another rough sort of guide is that on a 10 the ejection port is kind of the same size as the opening of the trigger guard, as opposed to the 11 where it is noticeably smaller. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 13:07, 27 November 2017 (EST)
	:::: Yeah, the stock is a good option to use. But in some media, the ones using them fire them without showing the stock, so that makes it a bit harder to examine. [[User:Ominae\|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae\|talk]]) 00:46, 28 November 2017 (EST)		:::: Yeah, the stock is a good option to use. But in some media, the ones using them fire them without showing the stock, so that makes it a bit harder to examine. [[User:Ominae\|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae\|talk]]) 00:46, 28 November 2017 (EST)

			== "Barrel Extensions" ==

			[[File:Ingram MAC 10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MAC-10 with detachable barrel extension - .45 ACP]]
			I've noticed that these guns (and some others) are often seen with shrouded "barrel extensions". Does this mean that they just have a smooth tube attached to the end of the barrel, or that the extension is an actual piece of rifled barrel screwed onto the existing one? And, if not the latter, would such a thing be feasible? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 09:26, 15 June 2020 (EDT)

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	[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]		[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]
	[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:M11A1 no stock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~500px~~\|RPB M11A1 with no stock - .380 ACP]]		[[File:M11A1 no stock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|RPB M11A1 with no stock - .380 ACP]]
	[[File:MGC MAC-11 suppressed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC suppressed Ingram MAC-11]]		[[File:MGC MAC-11 suppressed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC suppressed Ingram MAC-11]]

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	[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]		[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]
	[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:M11A1 no stock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|~~RPG~~ M11A1 with no stock - .380 ACP]]		[[File:M11A1 no stock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|RPB M11A1 with no stock - .380 ACP]]
	[[File:MGC MAC-11 suppressed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC suppressed Ingram MAC-11]]		[[File:MGC MAC-11 suppressed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC suppressed Ingram MAC-11]]

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	[[Image:TrueLiesMAC-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 was used by [[Jamie Lee Curtis]] in the film ''[[True Lies]]'' - 9x19mm Parabellum. When the gun fell down the flight of stairs, wire was wrapped around the trigger to get the effect.]]		[[Image:TrueLiesMAC-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 was used by [[Jamie Lee Curtis]] in the film ''[[True Lies]]'' - 9x19mm Parabellum. When the gun fell down the flight of stairs, wire was wrapped around the trigger to get the effect.]]
	[[Image:Blade mac11.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Blade's MAC-11 - .380 ACP. It is a rubber stunt version.]]		[[Image:Blade mac11.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Blade's MAC-11 - .380 ACP. It is a rubber stunt version.]]
			[[Image:Blade2-8-1-.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|The heavily modified MAC-10 used in the film ''[[Blade II]]''.]]
	[[File:Jamesgeorgopoulosjokermac10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 - .45 ACP. This is the screen-used firearm seen in ''[[The Dark Knight]]''. '''Thanks to [[User:Jimmygcreative\|James Georgopoulos]]'''.]]		[[File:Jamesgeorgopoulosjokermac10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 - .45 ACP. This is the screen-used firearm seen in ''[[The Dark Knight]]''. '''Thanks to [[User:Jimmygcreative\|James Georgopoulos]]'''.]]
	[[Image:McQMAC-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 used by [[John Wayne]] in the film ''[[McQ]]''- chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum. Suppressor is not the original. Image supplied by Long Mountain Outfitters.]]		[[Image:McQMAC-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 used by [[John Wayne]] in the film ''[[McQ]]''- chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum. Suppressor is not the original. Image supplied by Long Mountain Outfitters.]]
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	===MAC-10/11===		===MAC-10/11===
	~~[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]~~
	[[File:Jaws_m10_45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 fitted with the Jersey Arms Works collapsible buttstock - .45 ACP]]		[[File:Jaws_m10_45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 fitted with the Jersey Arms Works collapsible buttstock - .45 ACP]]
	[[Image:Ingram MAC 10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with detachable barrel extension - .45 ACP.]]		[[Image:Ingram MAC 10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with detachable barrel extension - .45 ACP.]]
	[[Image:~~Blade2-8-1~~-.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|~~The heavily modified~~ MAC-~~10 used in the film ''[[Blade II]]''~~.]]		[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]
	[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]
			[[File:M11A1 no stock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|RPG M11A1 with no stock - .380 ACP]]
	[[File:MGC MAC-11 suppressed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC suppressed Ingram MAC-11]]		[[File:MGC MAC-11 suppressed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC suppressed Ingram MAC-11]]
	~~[[File:GP221-L.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Airsoft Mac 11 with G&P scope mount]]~~

	===Other derivatives===		===Other derivatives===
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	[[File:MPA30DMG.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MasterPiece Arms MPA30DMG - 9x19mm]]		[[File:MPA30DMG.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MasterPiece Arms MPA30DMG - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:T77.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|T77 - 9x19mm]]		[[File:T77.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|T77 - 9x19mm]]

			===Airsoft Images===
			[[File:GP221-L.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Airsoft Mac 11 with G&P scope mount]]

	=Discussion=		=Discussion=

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	===MAC-10/11===		===MAC-10/11===
	[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|400px~~\|none~~\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]		[[Image:MAC-11Compact.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A MAC-11 of unknown make with a grip safety and 16-round magazine - .380 ACP]]
	[[File:Jaws_m10_45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 fitted with the Jersey Arms Works collapsible buttstock - .45 ACP]]		[[File:Jaws_m10_45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 fitted with the Jersey Arms Works collapsible buttstock - .45 ACP]]
	[[Image:Ingram MAC 10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with detachable barrel extension - .45 ACP.]]		[[Image:Ingram MAC 10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with detachable barrel extension - .45 ACP.]]
	[[Image:Blade2-8-1-.jpg\|thumb\|400px~~\|none~~\|The heavily modified MAC-10 used in the film ''[[Blade II]]''.]]		[[Image:Blade2-8-1-.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|The heavily modified MAC-10 used in the film ''[[Blade II]]''.]]
	[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|400px~~\|none~~\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:US Ingram M10 9x19mm submachine gun by Military Armament Corp with barrel extension.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MAC-10 with barrel extension - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:GP221-L.jpg\|thumb\|400px~~\|none~~\|Airsoft Mac 11 with G&P scope mount]]		[[File:MGC MAC-11 suppressed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MGC suppressed Ingram MAC-11]]
			[[File:GP221-L.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Airsoft Mac 11 with G&P scope mount]]

	===Other derivatives===		===Other derivatives===
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	[[File:BXP Early Version.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Armscor/Mechem BXP, early version - 9x19mm]]		[[File:BXP Early Version.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Armscor/Mechem BXP, early version - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:Sca m11.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Stonycreek Armory Suomi upper installed on a SWD M11/9 SMG - 9x19mm]]		[[File:Sca m11.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Stonycreek Armory Suomi upper installed on a SWD M11/9 SMG - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:MPA30DMG.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~451px~~\|MasterPiece Arms MPA30DMG - 9x19mm]]		[[File:MPA30DMG.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MasterPiece Arms MPA30DMG - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:T77.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|T77 - 9x19mm]]		[[File:T77.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|T77 - 9x19mm]]

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	:::The MAC-11 is pretty much just a baby version of the MAC-10 so it is pretty difficult to tell them apart. Pretty much the only reliable difference is that the MAC-11 is much smaller, being not much bigger than a regular pistol as oppsoed to the MAC-10 which is more like a brick. [http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/MAC10%20vs%20MAC11.jpg These] guns are airsoft, but the comaprison shows the difference in size between the two models. The reason I say that size is the only "reliable" indicator that I am aware of is that there are other indicators, but the problem is that the features of these guns vary a lot with manufacturer and when they were made. For example, a lot of MAC-10s have a flared sections on each size of the bottom of the magazine well, but not all. However, I beleive that this feature is never present on MAC-11s, so if you see this it is safe to say that it is a MAC-10. Similarly, I have never seen a MAC-10 without the holes in the sight protectors, so if there is a gun without holes it is a MAC-11, however not all MAC-11s have these holes. If it is hard to judge the size of a gun, the best you can really do is look at the proportions. For example, on an 11 the stock release button will be closer to the grip than the back of the receiver and on a 10 it is the other way round, and the back of the ejection port on 11s tends to be farther forward relative to the back of the magazine well, stuff like that. Another rough sort of guide is that on a 10 the ejection port is kind of the same size as the opening of the trigger guard, as opposed to the 11 where it is noticeably smaller. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 13:07, 27 November 2017 (EST)		:::The MAC-11 is pretty much just a baby version of the MAC-10 so it is pretty difficult to tell them apart. Pretty much the only reliable difference is that the MAC-11 is much smaller, being not much bigger than a regular pistol as oppsoed to the MAC-10 which is more like a brick. [http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/MAC10%20vs%20MAC11.jpg These] guns are airsoft, but the comaprison shows the difference in size between the two models. The reason I say that size is the only "reliable" indicator that I am aware of is that there are other indicators, but the problem is that the features of these guns vary a lot with manufacturer and when they were made. For example, a lot of MAC-10s have a flared sections on each size of the bottom of the magazine well, but not all. However, I beleive that this feature is never present on MAC-11s, so if you see this it is safe to say that it is a MAC-10. Similarly, I have never seen a MAC-10 without the holes in the sight protectors, so if there is a gun without holes it is a MAC-11, however not all MAC-11s have these holes. If it is hard to judge the size of a gun, the best you can really do is look at the proportions. For example, on an 11 the stock release button will be closer to the grip than the back of the receiver and on a 10 it is the other way round, and the back of the ejection port on 11s tends to be farther forward relative to the back of the magazine well, stuff like that. Another rough sort of guide is that on a 10 the ejection port is kind of the same size as the opening of the trigger guard, as opposed to the 11 where it is noticeably smaller. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 13:07, 27 November 2017 (EST)
	:::: Yeah, the stock is a good option to use. But in some media, the ones using them fire them without showing the stock, so that makes it a bit harder to examine. [[User:Ominae\|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae\|talk]]) 00:46, 28 November 2017 (EST)		:::: Yeah, the stock is a good option to use. But in some media, the ones using them fire them without showing the stock, so that makes it a bit harder to examine. [[User:Ominae\|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae\|talk]]) 00:46, 28 November 2017 (EST)

			== "Barrel Extensions" ==

			[[File:Ingram MAC 10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|MAC-10 with detachable barrel extension - .45 ACP]]
			I've noticed that these guns (and some others) are often seen with shrouded "barrel extensions". Does this mean that they just have a smooth tube attached to the end of the barrel, or that the extension is an actual piece of rifled barrel screwed onto the existing one? And, if not the latter, would such a thing be feasible? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 09:26, 15 June 2020 (EDT)