Talk:M230 Chain Gun - Revision history

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2010-05-04T17:48:38Z

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	I see your point though. I myself would love to see a background on larger weapons like that but I always figured this site did limit itself primarily to small arms. That said, I myself think it's okay to leave this page - the 30mm Chain-Gun is featured prominently on several movies and to exclude it would be a bit shoddy. That's just me though. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 02:41, 4 May 2010 (UTC)		I see your point though. I myself would love to see a background on larger weapons like that but I always figured this site did limit itself primarily to small arms. That said, I myself think it's okay to leave this page - the 30mm Chain-Gun is featured prominently on several movies and to exclude it would be a bit shoddy. That's just me though. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 02:41, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

			Isn't this a tripod mounted version of this gun , 30mm ASP, or something? http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3643.html

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2010-05-04T02:52:37Z

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	:''Obviously Hollywood Movie armorers don't own or use the M230 30mm Chain gun, as it is always seen mounted under an AH-64 helicopter gunship. The only appearances of the real gun are when the U.S. military assists the movie production, as in the film Fire Birds. The vast majority of AH-64 gunships in film are now computer generated creations as are their M230 guns, '''but for informational purposes, we are listing the real weapon here''', since that is what the gun is supposed to be. ''		:''Obviously Hollywood Movie armorers don't own or use the M230 30mm Chain gun, as it is always seen mounted under an AH-64 helicopter gunship. The only appearances of the real gun are when the U.S. military assists the movie production, as in the film Fire Birds. The vast majority of AH-64 gunships in film are now computer generated creations as are their M230 guns, '''but for informational purposes, we are listing the real weapon here''', since that is what the gun is supposed to be. ''

	I see your point though. I myself would love to see a background on larger weapons like that but I always figured this site did limit itself primarily to small arms. That said, I think it's okay to leave this page, the 30mm Chain-Gun is featured prominently on several movies and to exclude it ~~might~~ be a bit shoddy. That's just me though. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 02:41, 4 May 2010 (UTC)		I see your point though. I myself would love to see a background on larger weapons like that but I always figured this site did limit itself primarily to small arms. That said, I myself think it's okay to leave this page - the 30mm Chain-Gun is featured prominently on several movies and to exclude it would be a bit shoddy. That's just me though. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 02:41, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

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2010-05-04T02:51:18Z

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	I am afraid I have to question whether or not this weapon is appropriate for inclusion into this site. So far as I know, this weapon does not have a manually-fired version, which is one of the primary criteria for a weapon's inclusion. Some other large-caliber vehicle-mounted weapons ([[M242 Bushmaster chaingun]], [[BGM-71 TOW]]) are on the site, but those weapons qualify since they have manually-fired versions. If we allow this weapon, then we could easily end up with other weapons such as tank guns or howitzers flooding the site. [[User:Orca1 9904\|Orca1 9904]] 23:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)		I am afraid I have to question whether or not this weapon is appropriate for inclusion into this site. So far as I know, this weapon does not have a manually-fired version, which is one of the primary criteria for a weapon's inclusion. Some other large-caliber vehicle-mounted weapons ([[M242 Bushmaster chaingun]], [[BGM-71 TOW]]) are on the site, but those weapons qualify since they have manually-fired versions. If we allow this weapon, then we could easily end up with other weapons such as tank guns or howitzers flooding the site. [[User:Orca1 9904\|Orca1 9904]] 23:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

	- IMO I think automatic cannons would be the break point for what should be allowable and whatnot. Nevertheless, none of that is up to me, but I will state that if such weapons are featured prominently in a movie, or number of movies, it would just be shoddy to leave 'em out. Besides, I'm not too certain on what harm it would be to include artillery/tank guns/etc. Much like small arms, not EVERY tank gun/howitzer/mortar is used in movies/TV shows etc, and information on such weapons would be neat to have on them as we have for the regular small-arms themselves. Besides, as stated on a reply to the other repeat your comment, there are already some 'heavy' weapons such as rocket-launchers/mortars/etc already on the site.		-

	~~Otherwise, I'm just gonna repeat a portion of this very page here -~~

	:''Obviously Hollywood Movie armorers don't own or use the M230 30mm Chain gun, as it is always seen mounted under an AH-64 helicopter gunship. The only appearances of the real gun are when the U.S. military assists the movie production, as in the film Fire Birds. The vast majority of AH-64 gunships in film are now computer generated creations as are their M230 guns, '''but for informational purposes, we are listing the real weapon here''', since that is what the gun is supposed to be. ''		:''Obviously Hollywood Movie armorers don't own or use the M230 30mm Chain gun, as it is always seen mounted under an AH-64 helicopter gunship. The only appearances of the real gun are when the U.S. military assists the movie production, as in the film Fire Birds. The vast majority of AH-64 gunships in film are now computer generated creations as are their M230 guns, '''but for informational purposes, we are listing the real weapon here''', since that is what the gun is supposed to be. ''

	[[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 02:41, 4 May 2010 (UTC)		I see your point though. I myself would love to see a background on larger weapons like that but I always figured this site did limit itself primarily to small arms. That said, I think it's okay to leave this page, the 30mm Chain-Gun is featured prominently on several movies and to exclude it might be a bit shoddy. That's just me though. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 02:41, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

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2010-05-04T02:44:29Z

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	Otherwise, I'm just gonna repeat a portion of this very page here -		Otherwise, I'm just gonna repeat a portion of this very page here -

	:''Obviously Hollywood Movie armorers don't own or use the M230 30mm Chain gun, as it is always seen mounted under an AH-64 helicopter gunship. The only appearances of the real gun are when the U.S. military assists the movie production, as in the film Fire Birds. The vast majority of AH-64 gunships in film are now computer generated creations as are their M230 guns, '''''but for informational purposes, we are listing the real weapon here''''', since that is what the gun is supposed to be. ''		:''Obviously Hollywood Movie armorers don't own or use the M230 30mm Chain gun, as it is always seen mounted under an AH-64 helicopter gunship. The only appearances of the real gun are when the U.S. military assists the movie production, as in the film Fire Birds. The vast majority of AH-64 gunships in film are now computer generated creations as are their M230 guns, '''but for informational purposes, we are listing the real weapon here''', since that is what the gun is supposed to be. ''

	[[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 02:41, 4 May 2010 (UTC)		[[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 02:41, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

StanTheMan: /* Appropriate for this site? */

2010-05-04T02:44:08Z

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	- IMO I think automatic cannons would be the break point for what should be allowable and whatnot. Nevertheless, none of that is up to me, but I will state that if such weapons are featured prominently in a movie, or number of movies, it would just be shoddy to leave 'em out. Besides, I'm not too certain on what harm it would be to include artillery/tank guns/etc. Much like small arms, not EVERY tank gun/howitzer/mortar is used in movies/TV shows etc, and information on such weapons would be neat to have on them as we have for the regular small-arms themselves. Besides, as stated on a reply to the other repeat your comment, there are already some 'heavy' weapons such as rocket-launchers/mortars/etc already on the site.		- IMO I think automatic cannons would be the break point for what should be allowable and whatnot. Nevertheless, none of that is up to me, but I will state that if such weapons are featured prominently in a movie, or number of movies, it would just be shoddy to leave 'em out. Besides, I'm not too certain on what harm it would be to include artillery/tank guns/etc. Much like small arms, not EVERY tank gun/howitzer/mortar is used in movies/TV shows etc, and information on such weapons would be neat to have on them as we have for the regular small-arms themselves. Besides, as stated on a reply to the other repeat your comment, there are already some 'heavy' weapons such as rocket-launchers/mortars/etc already on the site.

	As for comment on 'Manually Fired' weapons, I don't see any stipulation on the site stating anything like that on the Rules page. Now if it is posted by the Admins somewhere else, that's fine, but otherwise, well.. Besides, 'Manually-Fired' sounds like a considerably ambiguous term, at least to me anyway.		Otherwise, I'm just gonna repeat a portion of this very page here -

	~~In closing~~, I'm gonna repeat a portion of this very page here -

	:''Obviously Hollywood Movie armorers don't own or use the M230 30mm Chain gun, as it is always seen mounted under an AH-64 helicopter gunship. The only appearances of the real gun are when the U.S. military assists the movie production, as in the film Fire Birds. The vast majority of AH-64 gunships in film are now computer generated creations as are their M230 guns, '''''but for informational purposes, we are listing the real weapon here''''', since that is what the gun is supposed to be. ''		:''Obviously Hollywood Movie armorers don't own or use the M230 30mm Chain gun, as it is always seen mounted under an AH-64 helicopter gunship. The only appearances of the real gun are when the U.S. military assists the movie production, as in the film Fire Birds. The vast majority of AH-64 gunships in film are now computer generated creations as are their M230 guns, '''''but for informational purposes, we are listing the real weapon here''''', since that is what the gun is supposed to be. ''

	[[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 02:41, 4 May 2010 (UTC)		[[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 02:41, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

StanTheMan: /* Appropriate for this site? */

2010-05-04T02:43:08Z

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	I am afraid I have to question whether or not this weapon is appropriate for inclusion into this site. So far as I know, this weapon does not have a manually-fired version, which is one of the primary criteria for a weapon's inclusion. Some other large-caliber vehicle-mounted weapons ([[M242 Bushmaster chaingun]], [[BGM-71 TOW]]) are on the site, but those weapons qualify since they have manually-fired versions. If we allow this weapon, then we could easily end up with other weapons such as tank guns or howitzers flooding the site. [[User:Orca1 9904\|Orca1 9904]] 23:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)		I am afraid I have to question whether or not this weapon is appropriate for inclusion into this site. So far as I know, this weapon does not have a manually-fired version, which is one of the primary criteria for a weapon's inclusion. Some other large-caliber vehicle-mounted weapons ([[M242 Bushmaster chaingun]], [[BGM-71 TOW]]) are on the site, but those weapons qualify since they have manually-fired versions. If we allow this weapon, then we could easily end up with other weapons such as tank guns or howitzers flooding the site. [[User:Orca1 9904\|Orca1 9904]] 23:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

	- IMO I think automatic cannons would be the break point for what should be allowable and whatnot. Nevertheless, none of that is up to me, but I will state that if such weapons are featured prominently in a movie, or number of movies, it would be shoddy to leave it out. Besides, I'm not too certain on what harm it would be to include artillery/tank guns/etc. Much like small arms, not EVERY tank gun/howitzer/mortar is used in movies/TV shows etc, and information on such weapons would be neat to have on them as we have for the regular small-arms themselves. Besides, as stated on a reply to the other repeat your comment, there are already some 'heavy' weapons such as rocket-launchers/mortars/etc already on the site.		- IMO I think automatic cannons would be the break point for what should be allowable and whatnot. Nevertheless, none of that is up to me, but I will state that if such weapons are featured prominently in a movie, or number of movies, it would just be shoddy to leave 'em out. Besides, I'm not too certain on what harm it would be to include artillery/tank guns/etc. Much like small arms, not EVERY tank gun/howitzer/mortar is used in movies/TV shows etc, and information on such weapons would be neat to have on them as we have for the regular small-arms themselves. Besides, as stated on a reply to the other repeat your comment, there are already some 'heavy' weapons such as rocket-launchers/mortars/etc already on the site.

	As for comment on 'Manually Fired' weapons, I don't see any stipulation on the site stating anything like that on the Rules page. Now if it is posted by the Admins somewhere else, that's fine, but otherwise, well.. Besides, 'Manually-Fired' sounds like a considerably ambiguous term, at least to me anyway.		As for comment on 'Manually Fired' weapons, I don't see any stipulation on the site stating anything like that on the Rules page. Now if it is posted by the Admins somewhere else, that's fine, but otherwise, well.. Besides, 'Manually-Fired' sounds like a considerably ambiguous term, at least to me anyway.

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2010-05-04T02:41:21Z

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	I am afraid I have to question whether or not this weapon is appropriate for inclusion into this site. So far as I know, this weapon does not have a manually-fired version, which is one of the primary criteria for a weapon's inclusion. Some other large-caliber vehicle-mounted weapons ([[M242 Bushmaster chaingun]], [[BGM-71 TOW]]) are on the site, but those weapons qualify since they have manually-fired versions. If we allow this weapon, then we could easily end up with other weapons such as tank guns or howitzers flooding the site. [[User:Orca1 9904\|Orca1 9904]] 23:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)		I am afraid I have to question whether or not this weapon is appropriate for inclusion into this site. So far as I know, this weapon does not have a manually-fired version, which is one of the primary criteria for a weapon's inclusion. Some other large-caliber vehicle-mounted weapons ([[M242 Bushmaster chaingun]], [[BGM-71 TOW]]) are on the site, but those weapons qualify since they have manually-fired versions. If we allow this weapon, then we could easily end up with other weapons such as tank guns or howitzers flooding the site. [[User:Orca1 9904\|Orca1 9904]] 23:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

			- IMO I think automatic cannons would be the break point for what should be allowable and whatnot. Nevertheless, none of that is up to me, but I will state that if such weapons are featured prominently in a movie, or number of movies, it would be shoddy to leave it out. Besides, I'm not too certain on what harm it would be to include artillery/tank guns/etc. Much like small arms, not EVERY tank gun/howitzer/mortar is used in movies/TV shows etc, and information on such weapons would be neat to have on them as we have for the regular small-arms themselves. Besides, as stated on a reply to the other repeat your comment, there are already some 'heavy' weapons such as rocket-launchers/mortars/etc already on the site.

			As for comment on 'Manually Fired' weapons, I don't see any stipulation on the site stating anything like that on the Rules page. Now if it is posted by the Admins somewhere else, that's fine, but otherwise, well.. Besides, 'Manually-Fired' sounds like a considerably ambiguous term, at least to me anyway.

			In closing, I'm gonna repeat a portion of this very page here -

			:''Obviously Hollywood Movie armorers don't own or use the M230 30mm Chain gun, as it is always seen mounted under an AH-64 helicopter gunship. The only appearances of the real gun are when the U.S. military assists the movie production, as in the film Fire Birds. The vast majority of AH-64 gunships in film are now computer generated creations as are their M230 guns, '''''but for informational purposes, we are listing the real weapon here''''', since that is what the gun is supposed to be. ''

			[[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 02:41, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

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I am afraid I have to question whether or not this weapon is appropriate for inclusion into this site. So far as I know, this weapon does not have a manually-fired version, which is one of the primary criteria for a weapon's inclusion. Some other large-caliber vehicle-mounted weapons ([[M242 Bushmaster chaingun]], [[BGM-71 TOW]]) are on the site, but those weapons qualify since they have manually-fired versions. If we allow this weapon, then we could easily end up with other weapons such as tank guns or howitzers flooding the site. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)