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		<title>Eddiehimself at 15:34, 4 August 2019</title>
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		<updated>2019-08-04T15:34:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 15:34, 4 August 2019&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: The wraparound grips are a strictly 3rd Generation feature - Earlier S&amp;amp;W autos like the 639 don't have them. There's also the Novak sights, which likewise weren't used on the pre-3rd gen guns (at least not that I'm aware). The blued controls (trigger and hammer) are also indicative, as they were used on later-made 3rd Gen stainless/alloy autos. &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; Having said that the gun is quite clearly NOT a 590x OR a 639, it's not nearly big enough in either slide or grip lengths and in the former case as noted (in a rather contradictory fashion) it also clearly lacks the frame bulge. This gun is - or at least best resembles - a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson|3913]]. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:51, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: The wraparound grips are a strictly 3rd Generation feature - Earlier S&amp;amp;W autos like the 639 don't have them. There's also the Novak sights, which likewise weren't used on the pre-3rd gen guns (at least not that I'm aware). The blued controls (trigger and hammer) are also indicative, as they were used on later-made 3rd Gen stainless/alloy autos. &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; Having said that the gun is quite clearly NOT a 590x OR a 639, it's not nearly big enough in either slide or grip lengths and in the former case as noted (in a rather contradictory fashion) it also clearly lacks the frame bulge. This gun is - or at least best resembles - a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson|3913]]. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:51, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::That sounds like a good call. It also makes sense in terms of context that Japanese detectives are unlikely to need some full-size double-stack model; that's more what an SAT officer would have. [[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 11:34, 4 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Eddiehimself</name></author>
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		<title>StanTheMan: Sixth time lucky? :P</title>
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		<updated>2019-08-03T03:02:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sixth time lucky? :P&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a double-stack S&amp;amp;W model like the 659, 5903 or otherwise. I get your point about the patterning on the grips, but I'm not sure it's enough to identify the 5903 by itself. I think maybe the truth lies somewhere in-between these models.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a double-stack S&amp;amp;W model like the 659, 5903 or otherwise. I get your point about the patterning on the grips, but I'm not sure it's enough to identify the 5903 by itself. I think maybe the truth lies somewhere in-between these models.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: The wraparound grips are a strictly 3rd Generation feature - Earlier S&amp;amp;W autos like the 639 don't have them. There's also the Novak sights, which likewise weren't used on the pre-3rd gen guns (at least not that I'm aware). The blued controls (trigger and hammer) are also indicative, as they were used on later-made 3rd Gen stainless/alloy autos. &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; Having said that the gun is quite clearly NOT a 590x OR a 639, it's not nearly big enough in either slide or grip lengths and in the former case as noted (in a rather contradictory fashion) it also clearly lacks the frame bulge. This best resembles a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson|3913]]. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:51, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: The wraparound grips are a strictly 3rd Generation feature - Earlier S&amp;amp;W autos like the 639 don't have them. There's also the Novak sights, which likewise weren't used on the pre-3rd gen guns (at least not that I'm aware). The blued controls (trigger and hammer) are also indicative, as they were used on later-made 3rd Gen stainless/alloy autos. &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; Having said that the gun is quite clearly NOT a 590x OR a 639, it's not nearly big enough in either slide or grip lengths and in the former case as noted (in a rather contradictory fashion) it also clearly lacks the frame bulge. This &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;gun is - or at least &lt;/ins&gt;best resembles &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;- &lt;/ins&gt;a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson|3913]]. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:51, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>StanTheMan</name></author>
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		<title>StanTheMan at 03:01, 3 August 2019</title>
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		<updated>2019-08-03T03:01:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a double-stack S&amp;amp;W model like the 659, 5903 or otherwise. I get your point about the patterning on the grips, but I'm not sure it's enough to identify the 5903 by itself. I think maybe the truth lies somewhere in-between these models.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a double-stack S&amp;amp;W model like the 659, 5903 or otherwise. I get your point about the patterning on the grips, but I'm not sure it's enough to identify the 5903 by itself. I think maybe the truth lies somewhere in-between these models.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: The wraparound grips are a strictly 3rd Generation feature - Earlier S&amp;amp;W autos like the 639 don't have them. The blued controls (trigger and hammer) are also indicative, as they were used on later-made 3rd Gen stainless/alloy autos. &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; Having said that the gun is quite clearly NOT a 590x OR a 639, it's not nearly big enough in either slide or grip lengths and in the former case as noted (in a rather contradictory fashion) it also clearly lacks the frame bulge. This best resembles a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson|3913]]. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:51, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: The wraparound grips are a strictly 3rd Generation feature - Earlier S&amp;amp;W autos like the 639 don't have them&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. There's also the Novak sights, which likewise weren't used on the pre-3rd gen guns (at least not that I'm aware)&lt;/ins&gt;. The blued controls (trigger and hammer) are also indicative, as they were used on later-made 3rd Gen stainless/alloy autos. &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; Having said that the gun is quite clearly NOT a 590x OR a 639, it's not nearly big enough in either slide or grip lengths and in the former case as noted (in a rather contradictory fashion) it also clearly lacks the frame bulge. This best resembles a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson|3913]]. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:51, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>StanTheMan at 02:56, 3 August 2019</title>
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		<updated>2019-08-03T02:56:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a double-stack S&amp;amp;W model like the 659, 5903 or otherwise. I get your point about the patterning on the grips, but I'm not sure it's enough to identify the 5903 by itself. I think maybe the truth lies somewhere in-between these models.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a double-stack S&amp;amp;W model like the 659, 5903 or otherwise. I get your point about the patterning on the grips, but I'm not sure it's enough to identify the 5903 by itself. I think maybe the truth lies somewhere in-between these models.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: The wraparound grips are a strictly 3rd Generation feature - Earlier S&amp;amp;W autos like the 639 don't have them. The blued controls (trigger and hammer) are also indicative, as they were used on later-made 3rd Gen stainless/alloy autos. &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; Having said that the gun is quite clearly NOT a 590x, it's not nearly big enough in either slide or grip lengths and as noted (in a rather contradictory fashion) it also clearly lacks the frame bulge. This &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;is one of the compact single-stack guns, mostly likely &lt;/del&gt;a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson|3913]]. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:51, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: The wraparound grips are a strictly 3rd Generation feature - Earlier S&amp;amp;W autos like the 639 don't have them. The blued controls (trigger and hammer) are also indicative, as they were used on later-made 3rd Gen stainless/alloy autos. &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; Having said that the gun is quite clearly NOT a 590x &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;OR a 639&lt;/ins&gt;, it's not nearly big enough in either slide or grip lengths and &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;in the former case &lt;/ins&gt;as noted (in a rather contradictory fashion) it also clearly lacks the frame bulge. This &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;best resembles &lt;/ins&gt;a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson|3913]]. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:51, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>StanTheMan</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Judgment&amp;diff=1287539&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>StanTheMan at 02:53, 3 August 2019</title>
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		<updated>2019-08-03T02:53:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a double-stack S&amp;amp;W model like the 659, 5903 or otherwise. I get your point about the patterning on the grips, but I'm not sure it's enough to identify the 5903 by itself. I think maybe the truth lies somewhere in-between these models.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a double-stack S&amp;amp;W model like the 659, 5903 or otherwise. I get your point about the patterning on the grips, but I'm not sure it's enough to identify the 5903 by itself. I think maybe the truth lies somewhere in-between these models.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: The wraparound grips are a 3rd Generation feature - Earlier S&amp;amp;W autos like the 639 don't have them. The blued controls (trigger and hammer) are also indicative, as they were used on later-made 3rd Gen stainless/alloy autos. &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; Having said that the gun is quite clearly NOT a 590x, it's not nearly big enough in either slide or grip lengths and as noted (in a rather contradictory fashion) it also clearly lacks the frame bulge. This is one of the compact single-stack guns, mostly likely a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson|3913]]. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:51, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: The wraparound grips are a &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;strictly &lt;/ins&gt;3rd Generation feature - Earlier S&amp;amp;W autos like the 639 don't have them. The blued controls (trigger and hammer) are also indicative, as they were used on later-made 3rd Gen stainless/alloy autos. &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; Having said that the gun is quite clearly NOT a 590x, it's not nearly big enough in either slide or grip lengths and as noted (in a rather contradictory fashion) it also clearly lacks the frame bulge. This is one of the compact single-stack guns, mostly likely a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson|3913]]. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:51, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>StanTheMan</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Judgment&amp;diff=1287538&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>StanTheMan: Pff, games do that kinda thing anyway, nevermind</title>
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		<updated>2019-08-03T02:53:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pff, games do that kinda thing anyway, nevermind&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot;&gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a double-stack S&amp;amp;W model like the 659, 5903 or otherwise. I get your point about the patterning on the grips, but I'm not sure it's enough to identify the 5903 by itself. I think maybe the truth lies somewhere in-between these models.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a double-stack S&amp;amp;W model like the 659, 5903 or otherwise. I get your point about the patterning on the grips, but I'm not sure it's enough to identify the 5903 by itself. I think maybe the truth lies somewhere in-between these models.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: The wraparound grips are a 3rd Generation feature - Earlier S&amp;amp;W autos like the 639 don't have them. The blued controls (trigger and hammer) are also indicative, as they were used on later-made 3rd Gen stainless/alloy autos. &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; Having said that the gun is quite clearly NOT a 590x, it's not nearly big enough in either slide or grip lengths and as noted (in a rather contradictory fashion) it also clearly lacks the frame bulge. This is one of the compact single-stack guns, mostly likely a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson|3913]]&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. As for the forward serrations it's not a standard feature but I've seen 'em on several models - By itself though it means nothing in terms of a general ID though&lt;/del&gt;. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:51, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: The wraparound grips are a 3rd Generation feature - Earlier S&amp;amp;W autos like the 639 don't have them. The blued controls (trigger and hammer) are also indicative, as they were used on later-made 3rd Gen stainless/alloy autos. &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; Having said that the gun is quite clearly NOT a 590x, it's not nearly big enough in either slide or grip lengths and as noted (in a rather contradictory fashion) it also clearly lacks the frame bulge. This is one of the compact single-stack guns, mostly likely a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson|3913]]. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:51, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>StanTheMan</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Judgment&amp;diff=1287537&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>StanTheMan at 02:51, 3 August 2019</title>
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		<updated>2019-08-03T02:51:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot;&gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a double-stack S&amp;amp;W model like the 659, 5903 or otherwise. I get your point about the patterning on the grips, but I'm not sure it's enough to identify the 5903 by itself. I think maybe the truth lies somewhere in-between these models.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a double-stack S&amp;amp;W model like the 659, 5903 or otherwise. I get your point about the patterning on the grips, but I'm not sure it's enough to identify the 5903 by itself. I think maybe the truth lies somewhere in-between these models.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: The wraparound grips are a 3rd Generation feature - Earlier S&amp;amp;W autos like the 639 don't have them. The blued controls (trigger and hammer) are also indicative, as they were used on later-made 3rd Gen stainless/alloy autos. &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; Having said that the gun is quite clearly NOT a 590x, it's not nearly big enough in either slide or grip lengths and as noted (in a rather contradictory fashion) it also clearly lacks the frame bulge. This is one of the compact single-stack guns, mostly likely a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson|3913]]. As for the forward serrations it's not a standard feature but I've seen 'em on several models - By itself though it means nothing in terms of a general ID though. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:51, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>StanTheMan</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Judgment&amp;diff=1287531&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Eddiehimself: Created page with &quot;==S&amp;W semi-auto model== So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a doub...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2019-08-03T00:12:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;==S&amp;amp;W semi-auto model== So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a doub...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==S&amp;amp;W semi-auto model==&lt;br /&gt;
So yo, the reason I identified it as a 639 was because of the lack of any kind of widening towards the rear end of the frame that would indicate a double-stack S&amp;amp;W model like the 659, 5903 or otherwise. I get your point about the patterning on the grips, but I'm not sure it's enough to identify the 5903 by itself. I think maybe the truth lies somewhere in-between these models.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Eddiehimself|Eddiehimself]] ([[User talk:Eddiehimself|talk]]) 20:12, 2 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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