Talk:Izhmash PP-19 - Revision history

ShermanJumbo at 19:24, 10 November 2023

2023-11-10T19:24:42Z

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	[[File:PSA AK-V.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PSA AK-V.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:Kalashnikov USA KR-9 SBR.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Kalashnikov USA KR-9 SBR - 9x19mm]]		[[File:Kalashnikov USA KR-9 SBR.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Kalashnikov USA KR-9 SBR - 9x19mm]]
			[[File:Saiga-9 YAROVIT.jpg\|450px\|thumb\|none\|Saiga-9 YAROVIT competition gun - 9x19mm ]]

	=Discussion=		=Discussion=

Pustelga7: /* Additional Images */

2023-07-16T17:42:13Z

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	[[File:PPK-20 2021.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20, 2021 version - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PPK-20 2021.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20, 2021 version - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:PSA AK-V.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PSA AK-V.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm]]
			[[File:Kalashnikov USA KR-9 SBR.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Kalashnikov USA KR-9 SBR - 9x19mm]]

	=Discussion=		=Discussion=

Pustelga7: /* Additional Images */

2023-02-19T12:27:15Z

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	=Additional Images=		=Additional Images=
	~~[[File:PP-19-01 Vityaz.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz" - 9x19mm]]~~
	[[File:VityazsnOSN.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz-SN" with Zenit accessories - 9x19mm]]		[[File:VityazsnOSN.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz-SN" with Zenit accessories - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:PPK-20 with suppressor.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20 ("Vityaz-MO") with suppressor, 2020 version - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PPK-20 with suppressor.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20 ("Vityaz-MO") with suppressor, 2020 version - 9x19mm]]

Ultimate94ninja at 16:33, 25 January 2022

2022-01-25T16:33:23Z

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	==Additional Images==		=Additional Images=
	[[File:PP-19-01 Vityaz.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz" - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PP-19-01 Vityaz.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz" - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:VityazsnOSN.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz-SN" with Zenit accessories - 9x19mm]]		[[File:VityazsnOSN.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz-SN" with Zenit accessories - 9x19mm]]
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	[[File:PSA AK-V.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PSA AK-V.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm]]

	===Images===		=Discussion=
			Doesn't this gun appear in a fictional variant form in Killzone 2?
			http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/Edizzle8002/killzonesmg11fu2.jpg

			Judging from the reciever and sights, it looks more like some Uzi with the grip moved back and a helical magazine whacked in. Kinda ugly IMO.

			==Images==

	Images of looks to be every PP-19 version here: http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-1157089-1-1.html		Images of looks to be every PP-19 version here: http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-1157089-1-1.html
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	The Tokarev version with the curved mag and the 10-round .380 ACP mag are at the bottom of the first post. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] 07:18, 17 June 2011 (CDT)		The Tokarev version with the curved mag and the 10-round .380 ACP mag are at the bottom of the first post. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] 07:18, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

	==~~Discussion~~==		==Vityaz==
	Vityaz is a derivative of [[Izhmash PP-19 Bizon]], it differs only in replacing of a helical-feed magazine with a more common stick magazine. I think that Vityaz must be merged into Bizon page which in turn be renamed into "Izhmash PP-19" with subheaders "PP-19 Bizon" and "PP-19-01 Vityaz". [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 22:03, 19 February 2014 (EST)		Vityaz is a derivative of [[Izhmash PP-19 Bizon]], it differs only in replacing of a helical-feed magazine with a more common stick magazine. I think that Vityaz must be merged into Bizon page which in turn be renamed into "Izhmash PP-19" with subheaders "PP-19 Bizon" and "PP-19-01 Vityaz". [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 22:03, 19 February 2014 (EST)
	:Sounds good. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 23:47, 19 February 2014 (EST)		:Sounds good. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 23:47, 19 February 2014 (EST)
	::Well at least it didn't ''quite'' take four years to do that :D [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 12:40, 18 February 2018 (EST)		::Well at least it didn't ''quite'' take four years to do that :D [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 12:40, 18 February 2018 (EST)

	~~===Killzone===~~
	~~Doesn't this gun appear in a fictional variant form in Killzone 2?~~
	~~http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/Edizzle8002/killzonesmg11fu2.jpg~~

	~~Judging from the reciever and sights, it looks more like some Uzi with the grip moved back and a helical magazine whacked in. Kinda ugly IMO.~~

Ominae at 11:37, 25 January 2022

2022-01-25T11:37:42Z

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	~~=Moved=~~

	==Additional Images==		==Additional Images==
	[[File:PP-19-01 Vityaz.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz" - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PP-19-01 Vityaz.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz" - 9x19mm]]
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	[[File:PPK-20 2021.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20, 2021 version - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PPK-20 2021.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20, 2021 version - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:PSA AK-V.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PSA AK-V.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm]]

			===Images===

			Images of looks to be every PP-19 version here: http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-1157089-1-1.html

			The Tokarev version with the curved mag and the 10-round .380 ACP mag are at the bottom of the first post. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] 07:18, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

	==Discussion==		==Discussion==
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	:Sounds good. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 23:47, 19 February 2014 (EST)		:Sounds good. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 23:47, 19 February 2014 (EST)
	::Well at least it didn't ''quite'' take four years to do that :D [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 12:40, 18 February 2018 (EST)		::Well at least it didn't ''quite'' take four years to do that :D [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 12:40, 18 February 2018 (EST)
	~~----~~

	~~=Discussion=~~

			===Killzone===
	Doesn't this gun appear in a fictional variant form in Killzone 2?		Doesn't this gun appear in a fictional variant form in Killzone 2?
	http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/Edizzle8002/killzonesmg11fu2.jpg		http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/Edizzle8002/killzonesmg11fu2.jpg

	Judging from the reciever and sights, it looks more like some Uzi with the grip moved back and a helical magazine whacked in. Kinda ugly IMO.		Judging from the reciever and sights, it looks more like some Uzi with the grip moved back and a helical magazine whacked in. Kinda ugly IMO.

	~~== Images ==~~

	~~Images of looks to be every PP-19 version here: http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-1157089-1-1.html~~

	~~The Tokarev version with the curved mag and the 10-round .380 ACP mag are at the bottom of the first post. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] 07:18, 17 June 2011 (CDT)~~

TheExplodingBarrel: /* Additional Images */

2022-01-10T05:14:21Z

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	[[File:PPK-20 with suppressor.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20 ("Vityaz-MO") with suppressor, 2020 version - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PPK-20 with suppressor.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20 ("Vityaz-MO") with suppressor, 2020 version - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:PPK-20 2021.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20, 2021 version - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PPK-20 2021.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20, 2021 version - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:PSA AK-V.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~600px~~\|Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PSA AK-V.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm]]

	==Discussion==		==Discussion==

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2022-01-10T05:04:30Z

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	[[File:PPK-20 with suppressor.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20 ("Vityaz-MO") with suppressor, 2020 version - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PPK-20 with suppressor.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20 ("Vityaz-MO") with suppressor, 2020 version - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:PPK-20 2021.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20, 2021 version - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PPK-20 2021.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20, 2021 version - 9x19mm]]
			[[File:PSA AK-V.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Palmetto State Armory AK-V with side folding triangle brace - 9x19mm]]

	==Discussion==		==Discussion==

Pustelga7: /* Additional Images */

2021-11-01T12:37:51Z

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	[[File:VityazsnOSN.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz-SN" with Zenit accessories - 9x19mm]]		[[File:VityazsnOSN.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz-SN" with Zenit accessories - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:PPK-20 with suppressor.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20 ("Vityaz-MO") with suppressor, 2020 version - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PPK-20 with suppressor.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20 ("Vityaz-MO") with suppressor, 2020 version - 9x19mm]]
			[[File:PPK-20 2021.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20, 2021 version - 9x19mm]]

	==Discussion==		==Discussion==

Pustelga7: /* Additional Images */

2021-11-01T12:36:26Z

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	[[File:PP-19-01 Vityaz.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz" - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PP-19-01 Vityaz.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz" - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:VityazsnOSN.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz-SN" with Zenit accessories - 9x19mm]]		[[File:VityazsnOSN.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PP-19-01 "Vityaz-SN" with Zenit accessories - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:PPK-20 with suppressor.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20 ("Vityaz-MO") with suppressor, ~~pre-2021~~ version - 9x19mm]]		[[File:PPK-20 with suppressor.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|PPK-20 ("Vityaz-MO") with suppressor, 2020 version - 9x19mm]]

	==Discussion==		==Discussion==

Ultimate94ninja: Removing my old comment

2021-09-16T18:43:52Z

Removing my old comment

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	The Tokarev version with the curved mag and the 10-round .380 ACP mag are at the bottom of the first post. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] 07:18, 17 June 2011 (CDT)		The Tokarev version with the curved mag and the 10-round .380 ACP mag are at the bottom of the first post. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] 07:18, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

	~~==Bizon-2 with side-folding stock==~~

	~~[[Image:Izhmashpp19bizon.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|PP-19 Bizon-2 with side-folding stock - 9x18mm Makarov]]~~
	All video games/anime listed in the [[Izhmash PP-19 Bizon#PP-19 Bizon-2\|PP-19 Bizon-2]] section of the article feature a PP-19 Bizon-2 with the early PP-19 stock, not the top-folding stock seen in the image in the article. The image that I've inserted above shows the variant I'm talking about (here chambered in 9x18mm Makarov). Is it a specific variant or a simple Bizon-2 with an early stock? Anyway I guess this image should replace the one seen in the page for the Bizon-2.--[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 04:23, 25 August 2013 (EDT)

	:There is an image that shows a Bizon-2 with a side-folding stock, it is just in folded position. We had no image of a Bizon-2 with the side-folding stock extended. Until now. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] ([[User talk:Bozitojugg3rn4ut\|talk]]) 05:21, 25 August 2013 (EDT)