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Ultimate94ninja: /* Brian's Glock */

2019-07-18T19:01:50Z

Brian's Glock

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	[[File:Furious7_BrianGlock2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|2nd View, Same Question]]		[[File:Furious7_BrianGlock2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|2nd View, Same Question]]
	[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 13:55, 17 July 2019 (EDT)		[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 13:55, 17 July 2019 (EDT)
			::Well... here are additional screenshots...
			::[[File:FF7 419.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]
			::...and honestly I'm not 100% sure. It does probably look like a .40 S&W, but the motion blur is really tricky. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 15:01, 18 July 2019 (EDT)

	==Weapons==		==Weapons==

Ultimate94ninja at 18:58, 18 July 2019

2019-07-18T18:58:33Z

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	== Brian's Glock ==		== Brian's Glock ==

	[[File:Furious7 108.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~800px~~]]		[[File:Furious7 108.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]
	It seems Brian's handgun is a Glock 19 - note how the bottom of the grip is not parallel to the slide.		It seems Brian's handgun is a Glock 19 - note how the bottom of the grip is not parallel to the slide.
	--[[User:Gr3gory\|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory\|talk]]) 14:06, 15 April 2015 (EDT)		--[[User:Gr3gory\|Gr3gory]] ([[User talk:Gr3gory\|talk]]) 14:06, 15 April 2015 (EDT)
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	::::Sometimes armorers can get guns mixed up and identify a gun wrong and I also did the frame by frame on the Glock 19/23 mag when Brian was loading up and I still don't know the brass rounds in the mag either the 9mm or the .40 S&W brass bullets, the 1911 has the S&W markings and front slant slide serrations while I did the frame by frame thing on it, I rather just leave the entries the way it is for now until further notice.		::::Sometimes armorers can get guns mixed up and identify a gun wrong and I also did the frame by frame on the Glock 19/23 mag when Brian was loading up and I still don't know the brass rounds in the mag either the 9mm or the .40 S&W brass bullets, the 1911 has the S&W markings and front slant slide serrations while I did the frame by frame thing on it, I rather just leave the entries the way it is for now until further notice.
	[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 21:42, 2 October 2018 (EDT)		[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 21:42, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
	:::::Well, in the event that you see actual 9mm brass bullets in the magazines shown in the movie, fair enough; but until then, there's no use in assuming that they misidentified it. Just because some armorers can get guns mixed up doesn't necessarily mean it's the case here; if they say that a Glock 18 and a 23 were used, then it only makes sense to ID them as such, since there's nothing significant to prove otherwise. I mean, if we go by the logic "it's easier to have G17 and G19 ~~rather than G22 and G23~~", we would end up replacing almost all non-9mm Glock IDs by 9mm Glock IDs on the IMFDB movie pages. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 17:19, 3 October 2018 (EDT)		:::::Well, in the event that you see actual 9mm brass bullets in the magazines shown in the movie, fair enough; but until then, there's no use in assuming that they misidentified it. Just because some armorers can get guns mixed up doesn't necessarily mean it's the case here; if they say that a Glock 18 and a 23 were used, then it only makes sense to ID them as such, since there's nothing significant to prove otherwise. I mean, if we go by the logic of not listing a pistol as G22/G23 because "it's easier to have G17 and G19", we would end up replacing almost all non-9mm Glock IDs by 9mm Glock IDs on the IMFDB movie pages. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 17:19, 3 October 2018 (EDT)
	::::::Is these brass rounds 9mm or .40?		::::::Is these brass rounds 9mm or .40?
	[[File:Furious7_BrianGlock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|1st View, Brass 9 or 40?]]		[[File:Furious7_BrianGlock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|1st View, Brass 9 or 40?]]

I'mallaboutguns.1: /* Brian's Glock */

2019-07-18T04:36:49Z

Brian's Glock

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	::::::Is these brass rounds 9mm or .40?		::::::Is these brass rounds 9mm or .40?
	[[File:Furious7_BrianGlock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|1st View, Brass 9 or 40?]]		[[File:Furious7_BrianGlock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|1st View, Brass 9 or 40?]]
	[[File:Furious7_BrianGlock2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|2nd View, ~~Brass 9 or 40?~~]]		[[File:Furious7_BrianGlock2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|2nd View, Same Question]]
	[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 13:55, 17 July 2019 (EDT)		[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 13:55, 17 July 2019 (EDT)

I'mallaboutguns.1: /* Brian's Glock */

2019-07-17T17:55:23Z

Brian's Glock

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	[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 21:42, 2 October 2018 (EDT)		[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 21:42, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
	:::::Well, in the event that you see actual 9mm brass bullets in the magazines shown in the movie, fair enough; but until then, there's no use in assuming that they misidentified it. Just because some armorers can get guns mixed up doesn't necessarily mean it's the case here; if they say that a Glock 18 and a 23 were used, then it only makes sense to ID them as such, since there's nothing significant to prove otherwise. I mean, if we go by the logic "it's easier to have G17 and G19 rather than G22 and G23", we would end up replacing almost all non-9mm Glock IDs by 9mm Glock IDs on the IMFDB movie pages. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 17:19, 3 October 2018 (EDT)		:::::Well, in the event that you see actual 9mm brass bullets in the magazines shown in the movie, fair enough; but until then, there's no use in assuming that they misidentified it. Just because some armorers can get guns mixed up doesn't necessarily mean it's the case here; if they say that a Glock 18 and a 23 were used, then it only makes sense to ID them as such, since there's nothing significant to prove otherwise. I mean, if we go by the logic "it's easier to have G17 and G19 rather than G22 and G23", we would end up replacing almost all non-9mm Glock IDs by 9mm Glock IDs on the IMFDB movie pages. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 17:19, 3 October 2018 (EDT)
			::::::Is these brass rounds 9mm or .40?
			[[File:Furious7_BrianGlock.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|1st View, Brass 9 or 40?]]
			[[File:Furious7_BrianGlock2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|2nd View, Brass 9 or 40?]]
			[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 13:55, 17 July 2019 (EDT)

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Ultimate94ninja: /* Brian's Glock */

2018-10-03T21:22:16Z

Brian's Glock

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	::::Sometimes armorers can get guns mixed up and identify a gun wrong and I also did the frame by frame on the Glock 19/23 mag when Brian was loading up and I still don't know the brass rounds in the mag either the 9mm or the .40 S&W brass bullets, the 1911 has the S&W markings and front slant slide serrations while I did the frame by frame thing on it, I rather just leave the entries the way it is for now until further notice.		::::Sometimes armorers can get guns mixed up and identify a gun wrong and I also did the frame by frame on the Glock 19/23 mag when Brian was loading up and I still don't know the brass rounds in the mag either the 9mm or the .40 S&W brass bullets, the 1911 has the S&W markings and front slant slide serrations while I did the frame by frame thing on it, I rather just leave the entries the way it is for now until further notice.
	[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 21:42, 2 October 2018 (EDT)		[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 21:42, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
	:::::Well, in the event that you see actual 9mm brass bullets in the magazines shown in the movie, ~~we can review it,~~ but until then there's no use in assuming that they misidentified it. Just because some armorers can get guns mixed up doesn't necessarily mean it's the case here; if they say that a Glock 18 and a 23 were used, then it only makes sense to ID them as such, since there's nothing significant to prove otherwise. I mean, ~~by going~~ by the logic "it's easier to have G17 and G19 rather than G22 and G23" ~~then~~ we would end up replacing almost all non-9mm Glock IDs by 9mm Glock IDs on the IMFDB movie pages. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 17:19, 3 October 2018 (EDT)		:::::Well, in the event that you see actual 9mm brass bullets in the magazines shown in the movie, fair enough; but until then, there's no use in assuming that they misidentified it. Just because some armorers can get guns mixed up doesn't necessarily mean it's the case here; if they say that a Glock 18 and a 23 were used, then it only makes sense to ID them as such, since there's nothing significant to prove otherwise. I mean, if we go by the logic "it's easier to have G17 and G19 rather than G22 and G23", we would end up replacing almost all non-9mm Glock IDs by 9mm Glock IDs on the IMFDB movie pages. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 17:19, 3 October 2018 (EDT)

	==Weapons==		==Weapons==

Ultimate94ninja: /* Brian's Glock */

2018-10-03T21:19:24Z

Brian's Glock

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	::::Sometimes armorers can get guns mixed up and identify a gun wrong and I also did the frame by frame on the Glock 19/23 mag when Brian was loading up and I still don't know the brass rounds in the mag either the 9mm or the .40 S&W brass bullets, the 1911 has the S&W markings and front slant slide serrations while I did the frame by frame thing on it, I rather just leave the entries the way it is for now until further notice.		::::Sometimes armorers can get guns mixed up and identify a gun wrong and I also did the frame by frame on the Glock 19/23 mag when Brian was loading up and I still don't know the brass rounds in the mag either the 9mm or the .40 S&W brass bullets, the 1911 has the S&W markings and front slant slide serrations while I did the frame by frame thing on it, I rather just leave the entries the way it is for now until further notice.
	[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 21:42, 2 October 2018 (EDT)		[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 21:42, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
			:::::Well, in the event that you see actual 9mm brass bullets in the magazines shown in the movie, we can review it, but until then there's no use in assuming that they misidentified it. Just because some armorers can get guns mixed up doesn't necessarily mean it's the case here; if they say that a Glock 18 and a 23 were used, then it only makes sense to ID them as such, since there's nothing significant to prove otherwise. I mean, by going by the logic "it's easier to have G17 and G19 rather than G22 and G23" then we would end up replacing almost all non-9mm Glock IDs by 9mm Glock IDs on the IMFDB movie pages. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 17:19, 3 October 2018 (EDT)

	==Weapons==		==Weapons==

I'mallaboutguns.1: /* Brian's Glock */

2018-10-03T01:42:59Z

Brian's Glock

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	[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 22:28, 29 September 2018 (EDT)		[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 22:28, 29 September 2018 (EDT)
	:::I initially thought that they were talking about the CZ Scorpion Evo 3, due to the way they they spelled it. However, while I'm not sure about the 1911, I think you're overthinking a bit regarding the "they misidentified the Glocks" part. It's one thing if an armorer called an AK-based weapon a generic "AK-47" when it's a Type 56 or a WASR, but it's another when they state specific models like the Glock 22 and 23. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't simply say Glock 17 and 19 if they were truly the models used. As for the "Glock 18 with a 17 round mag" part, you have it in some movies such as [[Exit Wounds]] and [[Revolver (2005)]], plus having it holstered with an extended 33-round magazine would be cumbersome. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 12:57, 2 October 2018 (EDT)		:::I initially thought that they were talking about the CZ Scorpion Evo 3, due to the way they they spelled it. However, while I'm not sure about the 1911, I think you're overthinking a bit regarding the "they misidentified the Glocks" part. It's one thing if an armorer called an AK-based weapon a generic "AK-47" when it's a Type 56 or a WASR, but it's another when they state specific models like the Glock 22 and 23. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't simply say Glock 17 and 19 if they were truly the models used. As for the "Glock 18 with a 17 round mag" part, you have it in some movies such as [[Exit Wounds]] and [[Revolver (2005)]], plus having it holstered with an extended 33-round magazine would be cumbersome. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 12:57, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
			::::Sometimes armorers can get guns mixed up and identify a gun wrong and I also did the frame by frame on the Glock 19/23 mag when Brian was loading up and I still don't know the brass rounds in the mag either the 9mm or the .40 S&W brass bullets, the 1911 has the S&W markings and front slant slide serrations while I did the frame by frame thing on it, I rather just leave the entries the way it is for now until further notice.
			[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 21:42, 2 October 2018 (EDT)

	==Weapons==		==Weapons==

Ultimate94ninja: /* Brian's Glock */

2018-10-02T16:57:44Z

Brian's Glock

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	::First of all, the "CZ Scorpion" is the Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion that Deckard uses, second of all, just because the armorer says Paul Walker uses a Glock 18 and a Glock 23 doesn't mean they are, and sometimes armorers can misidentify guns, and the converted 17s are mostly used to stand in for the 18s (who uses a Glock 18 with a 17 round mag?) and the 19s mostly used to stand in for the 23s because the 19s are easier and I think cheaper to convert to blank fire same with the 17s, third of all, the SW1911 used by Paul is not a E-Series due to not having scale-like slide serrations because I was once going through frame by frame before he was disarmed by Tony Jaa when they were fighting the first time on the bus, could just be a modified SW1911 due to the ambidextrous safety & rail, last of all, now the Glock 22 mentioned in the article, I think it was referring to the one in ''[[Fast & Furious]]'' where he was working as an FBI agent, even though the "22" doesn't appear as the gun he was using, just wanted to get that off of my chest, I could be wrong about a thing or two that I said.		::First of all, the "CZ Scorpion" is the Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion that Deckard uses, second of all, just because the armorer says Paul Walker uses a Glock 18 and a Glock 23 doesn't mean they are, and sometimes armorers can misidentify guns, and the converted 17s are mostly used to stand in for the 18s (who uses a Glock 18 with a 17 round mag?) and the 19s mostly used to stand in for the 23s because the 19s are easier and I think cheaper to convert to blank fire same with the 17s, third of all, the SW1911 used by Paul is not a E-Series due to not having scale-like slide serrations because I was once going through frame by frame before he was disarmed by Tony Jaa when they were fighting the first time on the bus, could just be a modified SW1911 due to the ambidextrous safety & rail, last of all, now the Glock 22 mentioned in the article, I think it was referring to the one in ''[[Fast & Furious]]'' where he was working as an FBI agent, even though the "22" doesn't appear as the gun he was using, just wanted to get that off of my chest, I could be wrong about a thing or two that I said.
	[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 22:28, 29 September 2018 (EDT)		[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 22:28, 29 September 2018 (EDT)
			:::I initially thought that they were talking about the CZ Scorpion Evo 3, due to the way they they spelled it. However, while I'm not sure about the 1911, I think you're overthinking a bit regarding the "they misidentified the Glocks" part. It's one thing if an armorer called an AK-based weapon a generic "AK-47" when it's a Type 56 or a WASR, but it's another when they state specific models like the Glock 22 and 23. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't simply say Glock 17 and 19 if they were truly the models used. As for the "Glock 18 with a 17 round mag" part, you have it in some movies such as [[Exit Wounds]] and [[Revolver (2005)]], plus having it holstered with an extended 33-round magazine would be cumbersome. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 12:57, 2 October 2018 (EDT)

	==Weapons==		==Weapons==

I'mallaboutguns.1: /* Brian's Glock */

2018-09-30T02:28:18Z

Brian's Glock

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	Other than shoving the tan Glock into his chest holster, there wasn't any real exposition of weapons prep for Walker. All that really.happened with his Glocks was the tan one got knocked out of his hands. Perhaps there is such footage that was deleted and the quotes in the article were made before editing was finished.--[[User:Tecolote\|Tecolote]] ([[User talk:Tecolote\|talk]]) 14:51, 21 September 2015 (EDT)		Other than shoving the tan Glock into his chest holster, there wasn't any real exposition of weapons prep for Walker. All that really.happened with his Glocks was the tan one got knocked out of his hands. Perhaps there is such footage that was deleted and the quotes in the article were made before editing was finished.--[[User:Tecolote\|Tecolote]] ([[User talk:Tecolote\|talk]]) 14:51, 21 September 2015 (EDT)
	:I finally got around to adding the specific weapons mentioned in Range365.com (nobody did it after three years :P). Didn't include the CZ Scorpion mentioned in one of the sections below, since it doesn't seem to be visible in the film. Regarding the Glock 22, I don't recall seeing Paul Walker wielding any Glock other than the 23 and the 18. However, in the bus fight, he attempts to disarm Tony Jaa's character, who was holding a full sized Glock currently listed as a 17 in the page (Walker doesn't grab the pistol, though). Perhaps they were referring to this pistol when mentioning the Glock 22? --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 17:06, 3 September 2018 (EDT)		:I finally got around to adding the specific weapons mentioned in Range365.com (nobody did it after three years :P). Didn't include the CZ Scorpion mentioned in one of the sections below, since it doesn't seem to be visible in the film. Regarding the Glock 22, I don't recall seeing Paul Walker wielding any Glock other than the 23 and the 18. However, in the bus fight, he attempts to disarm Tony Jaa's character, who was holding a full sized Glock currently listed as a 17 in the page (Walker doesn't grab the pistol, though). Perhaps they were referring to this pistol when mentioning the Glock 22? --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 17:06, 3 September 2018 (EDT)
			::First of all, the "CZ Scorpion" is the Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion that Deckard uses, second of all, just because the armorer says Paul Walker uses a Glock 18 and a Glock 23 doesn't mean they are, and sometimes armorers can misidentify guns, and the converted 17s are mostly used to stand in for the 18s (who uses a Glock 18 with a 17 round mag?) and the 19s mostly used to stand in for the 23s because the 19s are easier and I think cheaper to convert to blank fire same with the 17s, third of all, the SW1911 used by Paul is not a E-Series due to not having scale-like slide serrations because I was once going through frame by frame before he was disarmed by Tony Jaa when they were fighting the first time on the bus, could just be a modified SW1911 due to the ambidextrous safety & rail, last of all, now the Glock 22 mentioned in the article, I think it was referring to the one in ''[[Fast & Furious]]'' where he was working as an FBI agent, even though the "22" doesn't appear as the gun he was using, just wanted to get that off of my chest, I could be wrong about a thing or two that I said.
			[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1\|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1\|talk]]) 22:28, 29 September 2018 (EDT)

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Ultimate94ninja: /* Weapons */ Please help ID the M240 variant

2018-09-03T21:56:48Z

Weapons: Please help ID the M240 variant

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	I just noticed that the M240 on the main page was changed from the FN-MAG to the M240B. Wouldn't it be an M240D because of the spade grips?--[[User:Goondocks\|Goondocks]] ([[User talk:Goondocks\|talk]]) 15:04, 22 September 2015 (EDT)		I just noticed that the M240 on the main page was changed from the FN-MAG to the M240B. Wouldn't it be an M240D because of the spade grips?--[[User:Goondocks\|Goondocks]] ([[User talk:Goondocks\|talk]]) 15:04, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
			:I'm not sure... the one shown in the first and third screecap has an M240B's heatshield, while the second one lacks it. They both have a lower RIS handguard, though. That would be the case for an M240H, but nevermind on this one, since it has a different flash suppressor. Any ideas about the ID? --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 17:56, 3 September 2018 (EDT)

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