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StanTheMan: /* M41 Walker Bulldogs? */

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	Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam (or, rather, during during that time at least) IIRC, while the Army ~~did use~~ M48s (and later, M60s). The USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam (or, rather, during during that time at least) IIRC, while the Army had/used M48s (and later, M60s). The USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	::I was also under the impression that M41s were not deployed in Vietnam by US forces, however they were used in large numbers by the ARVN. The closest thing to an M41 that was used by US forces would have been the M42 Duster. Bear in mind, it isn't like the M48 was a replacement for the M41, the M41 was a light tank which replaced the Chaffee and was replaced by the Sheridan, as opposed to the M48 which was a medium tank replacing the M47 and was replaced by the M60. I'm pretty sure the US didn't actually use the M60 in Vietnam either, with the exception of specialist vehicles like combat engineering and bridgelaying variants. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		::I was also under the impression that M41s were not deployed in Vietnam by US forces, however they were used in large numbers by the ARVN. The closest thing to an M41 that was used by US forces would have been the M42 Duster. Bear in mind, it isn't like the M48 was a replacement for the M41, the M41 was a light tank which replaced the Chaffee and was replaced by the Sheridan, as opposed to the M48 which was a medium tank replacing the M47 and was replaced by the M60. I'm pretty sure the US didn't actually use the M60 in Vietnam either, with the exception of specialist vehicles like combat engineering and bridgelaying variants. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	::: Well, like I said, USMC generally got stuck with using older and sometimes smaller stuff. That said I was referencing more of a period and not actual deployment in the war (should have wrote that better but I was in a rush). That said, I honestly do remember hearing/reading Marines using Walkers in the war, I could be wrong though. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 23:14, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		::: Well, like I said, USMC generally got stuck with using older and sometimes smaller stuff. That said I was referencing more of a period and not actual deployment in the war (should have wrote that better but I was in a rush). That said, I honestly do remember hearing/reading Marines using Walkers in the war, I could be wrong though. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 23:14, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

StanTheMan: /* M41 Walker Bulldogs? */

2015-10-24T03:14:50Z

M41 Walker Bulldogs?

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	Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam (or ~~at least~~ during that time) IIRC~~. The~~ Army did use M48s (and later, M60s)~~, as that's what they had, but the~~ USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam (or, rather, during during that time at least) IIRC, while the Army did use M48s (and later, M60s). The USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	::I was also under the impression that M41s were not deployed in Vietnam by US forces, however they were used in large numbers by the ARVN. The closest thing to an M41 that was used by US forces would have been the M42 Duster. Bear in mind, it isn't like the M48 was a replacement for the M41, the M41 was a light tank which replaced the Chaffee and was replaced by the Sheridan, as opposed to the M48 which was a medium tank replacing the M47 and was replaced by the M60. I'm pretty sure the US didn't actually use the M60 in Vietnam either, with the exception of specialist vehicles like combat engineering and bridgelaying variants. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		::I was also under the impression that M41s were not deployed in Vietnam by US forces, however they were used in large numbers by the ARVN. The closest thing to an M41 that was used by US forces would have been the M42 Duster. Bear in mind, it isn't like the M48 was a replacement for the M41, the M41 was a light tank which replaced the Chaffee and was replaced by the Sheridan, as opposed to the M48 which was a medium tank replacing the M47 and was replaced by the M60. I'm pretty sure the US didn't actually use the M60 in Vietnam either, with the exception of specialist vehicles like combat engineering and bridgelaying variants. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
			::: Well, like I said, USMC generally got stuck with using older and sometimes smaller stuff. That said I was referencing more of a period and not actual deployment in the war (should have wrote that better but I was in a rush). That said, I honestly do remember hearing/reading Marines using Walkers in the war, I could be wrong though. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 23:14, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

StanTheMan: /* M41 Walker Bulldogs? */

2015-10-24T03:01:16Z

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	Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam IIRC. The Army did use M48s (and later, M60s), as that's what they had, but the USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam (or at least during that time) IIRC. The Army did use M48s (and later, M60s), as that's what they had, but the USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	::I was also under the impression that M41s were not deployed in Vietnam by US forces, however they were used in large numbers by the ARVN. The closest thing to an M41 that was used by US forces would have been the M42 Duster. Bear in mind, it isn't like the M48 was a replacement for the M41, the M41 was a light tank which replaced the Chaffee and was replaced by the Sheridan, as opposed to the M48 which was a medium tank replacing the M47 and was replaced by the M60. I'm pretty sure the US didn't actually use the M60 in Vietnam either, with the exception of specialist vehicles like combat engineering and bridgelaying variants. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		::I was also under the impression that M41s were not deployed in Vietnam by US forces, however they were used in large numbers by the ARVN. The closest thing to an M41 that was used by US forces would have been the M42 Duster. Bear in mind, it isn't like the M48 was a replacement for the M41, the M41 was a light tank which replaced the Chaffee and was replaced by the Sheridan, as opposed to the M48 which was a medium tank replacing the M47 and was replaced by the M60. I'm pretty sure the US didn't actually use the M60 in Vietnam either, with the exception of specialist vehicles like combat engineering and bridgelaying variants. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Commando552: /* M41 Walker Bulldogs? */

2015-10-23T22:02:19Z

M41 Walker Bulldogs?

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	Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam IIRC. The Army did use M48s (and later, M60s), as that's what they had, but the USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam IIRC. The Army did use M48s (and later, M60s), as that's what they had, but the USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
			::I was also under the impression that M41s were not deployed in Vietnam by US forces, however they were used in large numbers by the ARVN. The closest thing to an M41 that was used by US forces would have been the M42 Duster. Bear in mind, it isn't like the M48 was a replacement for the M41, the M41 was a light tank which replaced the Chaffee and was replaced by the Sheridan, as opposed to the M48 which was a medium tank replacing the M47 and was replaced by the M60. I'm pretty sure the US didn't actually use the M60 in Vietnam either, with the exception of specialist vehicles like combat engineering and bridgelaying variants. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

StanTheMan: /* M41 Walker Bulldogs? */

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	Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to ~~squire~~ for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam IIRC. The Army did use M48s (and later, M60s), as that's what they had, but the USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam IIRC. The Army did use M48s (and later, M60s), as that's what they had, but the USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

StanTheMan: /* M41 Walker Bulldogs? */

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	Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	: The tanks in the film definitely ~~looks~~ to be M41s. ~~And yes~~, I believe it's correct - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam IIRC. The Army did use M48s (and later, M60s), as that's what they had, but the USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to squire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam IIRC. The Army did use M48s (and later, M60s), as that's what they had, but the USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

StanTheMan: /* M41 Walker Bulldogs? */

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	Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
			: The tanks in the film definitely looks to be M41s. And yes, I believe it's correct - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam IIRC. The Army did use M48s (and later, M60s), as that's what they had, but the USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Maxman: /* M41 Walker Bulldogs? */ new section

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	There's a screencap that's pretty much identical to this production image, so there's no point having both on the page. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 16:17, 10 July 2013 (EDT)		There's a screencap that's pretty much identical to this production image, so there's no point having both on the page. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 16:17, 10 July 2013 (EDT)
	[[Image:FullMetalJacket MGC16.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A production image of [[Matthew Modine]] as Pvt. Joker holding a Model Gun Corp MGC M16.]]		[[Image:FullMetalJacket MGC16.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A production image of [[Matthew Modine]] as Pvt. Joker holding a Model Gun Corp MGC M16.]]

			== M41 Walker Bulldogs? ==

			Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Greg-Z: /* "Jungle Style"? */

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"Jungle Style"?

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	Want to make sure this right before I post but on this page it says that "Jungle Style" originated in the 'Nam war with the M16, correct if I'm wrong, but wasn't it World War II with the 20 round Thompson mags that caused the creation of "Jungle Style"...?		Want to make sure this right before I post but on this page it says that "Jungle Style" originated in the 'Nam war with the M16, correct if I'm wrong, but wasn't it World War II with the 20 round Thompson mags that caused the creation of "Jungle Style"...?
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	:Makes sense. The earliest reference I found here was in ''[[Battleground]]'', which came out in 1949. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 08:34, 2 February 2012 (CST)		:Makes sense. The earliest reference I found here was in ''[[Battleground]]'', which came out in 1949. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 08:34, 2 February 2012 (CST)
	::Why do they call it jungle style if it originated during WWII?--[[User:Cool-breeze\|cool-breeze]] 17:57, 2 February 2012 (CST)		::Why do they call it jungle style if it originated during WWII?--[[User:Cool-breeze\|cool-breeze]] 17:57, 2 February 2012 (CST)

StanTheMan: /* VC Sniper (Ngoc Le) */

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VC Sniper (Ngoc Le)

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	What makes a sniper rifle a sniper rifle? The person using it.		What makes a sniper rifle a sniper rifle? The person using it.
	:What makes a sniper rifle a sniper rifle is the rifle being designed to deliver precision fire over long distances. If I handed a Mossberg 590 or MP5 to a sniper, that wouldn't make those respective long arms "sniper rifles", would it? [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198\|talk]]) 17:52, 21 January 2014 (EST)		:What makes a sniper rifle a sniper rifle is the rifle being designed to deliver precision fire over long distances. If I handed a Mossberg 590 or MP5 to a sniper, that wouldn't make those respective long arms "sniper rifles", would it? [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198\|talk]]) 17:52, 21 January 2014 (EST)
	:: ^ Indeed. I agree. But a sniper not having a specifically designed sniper rifle and instead having a regular infantry rifle doesn't make them NOT a sniper if they can still deliver effective, long-range, well-aimed fire, as shown in this film. The main debate here is terminology and more in terms of an individual, not the weapon - And again, since the shooter here is delivering well-aimed fire at a bit of a distance she could still easily be called a sniper, even if she isn't using a specifically-designed sniper weapon. Especially by marines who are under fire from her, can't see her and are being picked off by her well-aimed fire. What would you call her in that situation? Just a shooter? Sharpshooter? Marksman? Bah, this is really just a debate over semantics. To answer the original, frankly silly, query, No - A sniper doesn't necessarily have to have a sniper rifle or even just a scoped rifle to be a 'sniper' in that context. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 21:44, 21 January 2014 (EST)		:: ^ Indeed. I agree. But a trained sniper not having a specifically designed sniper rifle and instead having a regular infantry rifle doesn't make them NOT a sniper if they can still deliver effective, long-range, well-aimed fire, as shown in this film. The main debate here is terminology and more in terms of an individual, not the weapon - And again, since the shooter here is delivering well-aimed fire at a bit of a distance she could still easily be called a sniper, even if she isn't using a specifically-designed sniper weapon. Especially by marines who are under fire from her, can't see her and are being picked off by her well-aimed fire. What would you call her in that situation? Just a shooter? Sharpshooter? Marksman? Bah, this is really just a debate over semantics. To answer the original, frankly silly, query, No - A sniper doesn't necessarily have to have a sniper rifle or even just a scoped rifle to be a 'sniper' in that context. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 21:44, 21 January 2014 (EST)

	== Blank cartridges? ==		== Blank cartridges? ==

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	Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam (or, rather, during during that time at least) IIRC, while the Army ~~did use~~ M48s (and later, M60s). The USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam (or, rather, during during that time at least) IIRC, while the Army had/used M48s (and later, M60s). The USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	::I was also under the impression that M41s were not deployed in Vietnam by US forces, however they were used in large numbers by the ARVN. The closest thing to an M41 that was used by US forces would have been the M42 Duster. Bear in mind, it isn't like the M48 was a replacement for the M41, the M41 was a light tank which replaced the Chaffee and was replaced by the Sheridan, as opposed to the M48 which was a medium tank replacing the M47 and was replaced by the M60. I'm pretty sure the US didn't actually use the M60 in Vietnam either, with the exception of specialist vehicles like combat engineering and bridgelaying variants. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		::I was also under the impression that M41s were not deployed in Vietnam by US forces, however they were used in large numbers by the ARVN. The closest thing to an M41 that was used by US forces would have been the M42 Duster. Bear in mind, it isn't like the M48 was a replacement for the M41, the M41 was a light tank which replaced the Chaffee and was replaced by the Sheridan, as opposed to the M48 which was a medium tank replacing the M47 and was replaced by the M60. I'm pretty sure the US didn't actually use the M60 in Vietnam either, with the exception of specialist vehicles like combat engineering and bridgelaying variants. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	::: Well, like I said, USMC generally got stuck with using older and sometimes smaller stuff. That said I was referencing more of a period and not actual deployment in the war (should have wrote that better but I was in a rush). That said, I honestly do remember hearing/reading Marines using Walkers in the war, I could be wrong though. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 23:14, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		::: Well, like I said, USMC generally got stuck with using older and sometimes smaller stuff. That said I was referencing more of a period and not actual deployment in the war (should have wrote that better but I was in a rush). That said, I honestly do remember hearing/reading Marines using Walkers in the war, I could be wrong though. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 23:14, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

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	Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam (or ~~at least~~ during that time) IIRC~~. The~~ Army did use M48s (and later, M60s)~~, as that's what they had, but the~~ USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam (or, rather, during during that time at least) IIRC, while the Army did use M48s (and later, M60s). The USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	::I was also under the impression that M41s were not deployed in Vietnam by US forces, however they were used in large numbers by the ARVN. The closest thing to an M41 that was used by US forces would have been the M42 Duster. Bear in mind, it isn't like the M48 was a replacement for the M41, the M41 was a light tank which replaced the Chaffee and was replaced by the Sheridan, as opposed to the M48 which was a medium tank replacing the M47 and was replaced by the M60. I'm pretty sure the US didn't actually use the M60 in Vietnam either, with the exception of specialist vehicles like combat engineering and bridgelaying variants. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		::I was also under the impression that M41s were not deployed in Vietnam by US forces, however they were used in large numbers by the ARVN. The closest thing to an M41 that was used by US forces would have been the M42 Duster. Bear in mind, it isn't like the M48 was a replacement for the M41, the M41 was a light tank which replaced the Chaffee and was replaced by the Sheridan, as opposed to the M48 which was a medium tank replacing the M47 and was replaced by the M60. I'm pretty sure the US didn't actually use the M60 in Vietnam either, with the exception of specialist vehicles like combat engineering and bridgelaying variants. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
			::: Well, like I said, USMC generally got stuck with using older and sometimes smaller stuff. That said I was referencing more of a period and not actual deployment in the war (should have wrote that better but I was in a rush). That said, I honestly do remember hearing/reading Marines using Walkers in the war, I could be wrong though. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 23:14, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

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	Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam IIRC. The Army did use M48s (and later, M60s), as that's what they had, but the USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam (or at least during that time) IIRC. The Army did use M48s (and later, M60s), as that's what they had, but the USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	::I was also under the impression that M41s were not deployed in Vietnam by US forces, however they were used in large numbers by the ARVN. The closest thing to an M41 that was used by US forces would have been the M42 Duster. Bear in mind, it isn't like the M48 was a replacement for the M41, the M41 was a light tank which replaced the Chaffee and was replaced by the Sheridan, as opposed to the M48 which was a medium tank replacing the M47 and was replaced by the M60. I'm pretty sure the US didn't actually use the M60 in Vietnam either, with the exception of specialist vehicles like combat engineering and bridgelaying variants. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		::I was also under the impression that M41s were not deployed in Vietnam by US forces, however they were used in large numbers by the ARVN. The closest thing to an M41 that was used by US forces would have been the M42 Duster. Bear in mind, it isn't like the M48 was a replacement for the M41, the M41 was a light tank which replaced the Chaffee and was replaced by the Sheridan, as opposed to the M48 which was a medium tank replacing the M47 and was replaced by the M60. I'm pretty sure the US didn't actually use the M60 in Vietnam either, with the exception of specialist vehicles like combat engineering and bridgelaying variants. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

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	Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		Are the M41s accurate? I thought only South Vietnam used them by the film's setting and the US used M48s. --[[User:Maxman\|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman\|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
	: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam IIRC. The Army did use M48s (and later, M60s), as that's what they had, but the USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)		: The tanks in the film definitely look to be M41s. Which were probably easier to acquire for the film as they were much older. That said, I believe it's still correct though - Marines still used Walker Bulldogs in 'Nam IIRC. The Army did use M48s (and later, M60s), as that's what they had, but the USMC was generally stuck with using the next older-tier of vehicles/etc. Marine armor in the first Gulf War still consisted of older M60A1s and M60A3s, as opposed to the Army which rolled around with Abrams tanks, for example. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
			::I was also under the impression that M41s were not deployed in Vietnam by US forces, however they were used in large numbers by the ARVN. The closest thing to an M41 that was used by US forces would have been the M42 Duster. Bear in mind, it isn't like the M48 was a replacement for the M41, the M41 was a light tank which replaced the Chaffee and was replaced by the Sheridan, as opposed to the M48 which was a medium tank replacing the M47 and was replaced by the M60. I'm pretty sure the US didn't actually use the M60 in Vietnam either, with the exception of specialist vehicles like combat engineering and bridgelaying variants. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 October 2015 (EDT)