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Greg-Z: /* My guess about the shotgun */

2018-12-19T11:39:40Z

My guess about the shotgun

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	[[File:Aerograd-Rifle-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Shabanov with his son and a gun.]]		[[File:Aerograd-Rifle-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Shabanov with his son and a gun.]]
			:Thanks, it looks reasonable. I don't think that it's the same prop (Kiev studio was evacuated during the war, and hardly any of its props survived until postwar time) but probably the same model. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 06:39, 19 December 2018 (EST)

Pyramid Silent: /* My guess about the shotgun */ new section

2018-12-18T20:59:20Z

My guess about the shotgun: new section

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	:1892 Winchesters were popular hunting guns on Russian Far East, they were purchased from American whalers. But the outlook really matches 1866, so I agree. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:24, 10 April 2017 (EDT)		:1892 Winchesters were popular hunting guns on Russian Far East, they were purchased from American whalers. But the outlook really matches 1866, so I agree. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:24, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
	::They were? I never knew, but this is why this is a valuable resource. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 08:51, 10 April 2017 (EDT)		::They were? I never knew, but this is why this is a valuable resource. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 08:51, 10 April 2017 (EDT)

			== My guess about the shotgun ==

			Maybe, it's just an optical illusion, but it seems, that the Shabanov's shotgun has the Vetterli style trigger guard. If it's correct, it most likely, the same movie prop, tah also appeared in ''[[Winter Hut on the Studyonaya (Zimovye na Studyonoy), The#Vetterli converted shotgun\|The Winter Hut on the Studyonaya (Zimovye na Studyonoy)]]''. [[User:Pyramid Silent\|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent\|talk]]) 15:59, 18 December 2018 (EST)

			[[File:Aerograd-Rifle-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Shabanov with his son and a gun.]]

Black Irish Paddy at 12:51, 10 April 2017

2017-04-10T12:51:32Z

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	I believe the Winchester to be an 1866 rather than the 1892, for several reasons, first the 1892 was never that widely dispersed in Europe copied by the Spanish but no one else, second the picture shows a seemingly shiny fore end end cap which was blued on the 1892 but brass on the 1866 and thirdly the 1866 was used by the Ottoman Turks and captured in large numbers by the Russians in the 1877-78 Russo-Turkish War, which would allow for inexpensive movie guns due to its obsolescence. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 07:52, 10 April 2017 (EDT)		I believe the Winchester to be an 1866 rather than the 1892, for several reasons, first the 1892 was never that widely dispersed in Europe copied by the Spanish but no one else, second the picture shows a seemingly shiny fore end end cap which was blued on the 1892 but brass on the 1866 and thirdly the 1866 was used by the Ottoman Turks and captured in large numbers by the Russians in the 1877-78 Russo-Turkish War, which would allow for inexpensive movie guns due to its obsolescence. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 07:52, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
	:1892 Winchesters were popular hunting guns on Russian Far East, they were purchased from American whalers. But the outlook really matches 1866, so I agree. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:24, 10 April 2017 (EDT)		:1892 Winchesters were popular hunting guns on Russian Far East, they were purchased from American whalers. But the outlook really matches 1866, so I agree. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:24, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
			::They were? I never knew, but this is why this is a valuable resource. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 08:51, 10 April 2017 (EDT)

Greg-Z at 12:24, 10 April 2017

2017-04-10T12:24:03Z

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	I believe the Winchester to be an 1866 rather than the 1892, for several reasons, first the 1892 was never that widely dispersed in Europe copied by the Spanish but no one else, second the picture shows a seemingly shiny fore end end cap which was blued on the 1892 but brass on the 1866 and thirdly the 1866 was used by the Ottoman Turks and captured in large numbers by the Russians in the 1877-78 Russo-Turkish War, which would allow for inexpensive movie guns due to its obsolescence. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 07:52, 10 April 2017 (EDT)		I believe the Winchester to be an 1866 rather than the 1892, for several reasons, first the 1892 was never that widely dispersed in Europe copied by the Spanish but no one else, second the picture shows a seemingly shiny fore end end cap which was blued on the 1892 but brass on the 1866 and thirdly the 1866 was used by the Ottoman Turks and captured in large numbers by the Russians in the 1877-78 Russo-Turkish War, which would allow for inexpensive movie guns due to its obsolescence. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 07:52, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
			:1892 Winchesters were popular hunting guns on Russian Far East, they were purchased from American whalers. But the outlook really matches 1866, so I agree. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:24, 10 April 2017 (EDT)

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2017-04-10T11:52:00Z

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I believe the Winchester to be an 1866 rather than the 1892, for several reasons, first the 1892 was never that widely dispersed in Europe copied by the Spanish but no one else, second the picture shows a seemingly shiny fore end end cap which was blued on the 1892 but brass on the 1866 and thirdly the 1866 was used by the Ottoman Turks and captured in large numbers by the Russians in the 1877-78 Russo-Turkish War, which would allow for inexpensive movie guns due to its obsolescence. [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 07:52, 10 April 2017 (EDT)

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	:1892 Winchesters were popular hunting guns on Russian Far East, they were purchased from American whalers. But the outlook really matches 1866, so I agree. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:24, 10 April 2017 (EDT)		:1892 Winchesters were popular hunting guns on Russian Far East, they were purchased from American whalers. But the outlook really matches 1866, so I agree. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:24, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
	::They were? I never knew, but this is why this is a valuable resource. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 08:51, 10 April 2017 (EDT)		::They were? I never knew, but this is why this is a valuable resource. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 08:51, 10 April 2017 (EDT)

			== My guess about the shotgun ==

			Maybe, it's just an optical illusion, but it seems, that the Shabanov's shotgun has the Vetterli style trigger guard. If it's correct, it most likely, the same movie prop, tah also appeared in ''[[Winter Hut on the Studyonaya (Zimovye na Studyonoy), The#Vetterli converted shotgun\|The Winter Hut on the Studyonaya (Zimovye na Studyonoy)]]''. [[User:Pyramid Silent\|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent\|talk]]) 15:59, 18 December 2018 (EST)

			[[File:Aerograd-Rifle-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Shabanov with his son and a gun.]]