Talk:Fallout 4 - Revision history

TheExplodingBarrel: /* Taser in Science perk image? */

2023-09-02T01:53:49Z

Taser in Science perk image?

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	::Since it's official game content, I'll make a start to writing them in. [[User:WaltherWhiteCook\|WaltherWhiteCook]] ([[User talk:WaltherWhiteCook\|talk]]) 23:04, 25 October 2022 (UTC)		::Since it's official game content, I'll make a start to writing them in. [[User:WaltherWhiteCook\|WaltherWhiteCook]] ([[User talk:WaltherWhiteCook\|talk]]) 23:04, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

	== Taser in Science perk image? ==		==Taser in Science perk image?==

	The weapon in [https://fallout.wiki/wiki/File:Fo4_Science!.png the icon for Science] looks like it's loosely based on a [[Taser]], likely X26P (front door, camera/bottom of grip, iron sight style, ). Thoughts? [[User:VladVladson\|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson\|talk]]) 01:29, 2 September 2023 (UTC)		The weapon in [https://fallout.wiki/wiki/File:Fo4_Science!.png the icon for Science] looks like it's loosely based on a [[Taser]], likely X26P (front door, camera/bottom of grip, iron sight style, ). Thoughts? [[User:VladVladson\|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson\|talk]]) 01:29, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
			:I'd say that's stretching quite a bit. I see very little resemblance. [[User:TheExplodingBarrel\|TheExplodingBarrel]] ([[User talk:TheExplodingBarrel\|talk]]) 01:53, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

VladVladson: /* Taser in Science perk image? */ new section

2023-09-02T01:29:19Z

Taser in Science perk image?: new section

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	::Since it's official game content, I'll make a start to writing them in. [[User:WaltherWhiteCook\|WaltherWhiteCook]] ([[User talk:WaltherWhiteCook\|talk]]) 23:04, 25 October 2022 (UTC)		::Since it's official game content, I'll make a start to writing them in. [[User:WaltherWhiteCook\|WaltherWhiteCook]] ([[User talk:WaltherWhiteCook\|talk]]) 23:04, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

			== Taser in Science perk image? ==

			The weapon in [https://fallout.wiki/wiki/File:Fo4_Science!.png the icon for Science] looks like it's loosely based on a [[Taser]], likely X26P (front door, camera/bottom of grip, iron sight style, ). Thoughts? [[User:VladVladson\|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson\|talk]]) 01:29, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

WaltherWhiteCook: /* Creation Club Mod Firearms */ why did i have to do the verification thing you have to when adding external links, i didn't type any in this edit

2022-10-25T23:05:52Z

Creation Club Mod Firearms: why did i have to do the verification thing you have to when adding external links, i didn't type any in this edit

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	I'm considering adding the weapons from FO4's Creation Club. Should I write them seperately underneath the entries for the base game/DLC guns or should I add them in the already existing sections?		I'm considering adding the weapons from FO4's Creation Club. Should I write them seperately underneath the entries for the base game/DLC guns or should I add them in the already existing sections?
	[[User:WaltherWhiteCook\|WaltherWhiteCook]] ([[User talk:WaltherWhiteCook\|talk]]) 13:41, 22 April 2022 (EDT)		[[User:WaltherWhiteCook\|WaltherWhiteCook]] ([[User talk:WaltherWhiteCook\|talk]]) 13:41, 22 April 2022 (EDT)
			::Since it's official game content, I'll make a start to writing them in. [[User:WaltherWhiteCook\|WaltherWhiteCook]] ([[User talk:WaltherWhiteCook\|talk]]) 23:04, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

WaltherWhiteCook: /* Creation Club Mod Firearms */

2022-04-22T17:42:11Z

Creation Club Mod Firearms

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	== Creation Club Mod Firearms ==		== Creation Club Mod Firearms ==

	~~Thinking about writing these firearms in~~
	I'm considering adding the weapons from FO4's Creation Club. Should I write them seperately underneath the entries for the base game/DLC guns or should I add them in the already existing sections?		I'm considering adding the weapons from FO4's Creation Club. Should I write them seperately underneath the entries for the base game/DLC guns or should I add them in the already existing sections?
	[[User:WaltherWhiteCook\|WaltherWhiteCook]] ([[User talk:WaltherWhiteCook\|talk]]) 13:41, 22 April 2022 (EDT)		[[User:WaltherWhiteCook\|WaltherWhiteCook]] ([[User talk:WaltherWhiteCook\|talk]]) 13:41, 22 April 2022 (EDT)

WaltherWhiteCook: /* Creation Club Mod Firearms */ new section

2022-04-22T17:41:56Z

Creation Club Mod Firearms: new section

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	:As long as the content is an official part of the game, I don't see why not. Sadly, I can't really say the same for the system itself. The whole idea of paid mods is just about one of the world's most transparent cash-grabs, and I don't see how anyone could think otherwise. But, back onto the main point, it looks like the Gauss gun is mirrored, compared to the original version. It's still L-39-based, though. See ya. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 00:14, 31 August 2017 (EDT)		:As long as the content is an official part of the game, I don't see why not. Sadly, I can't really say the same for the system itself. The whole idea of paid mods is just about one of the world's most transparent cash-grabs, and I don't see how anyone could think otherwise. But, back onto the main point, it looks like the Gauss gun is mirrored, compared to the original version. It's still L-39-based, though. See ya. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 00:14, 31 August 2017 (EDT)
	::For bonus points, Creation Club [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg-Mh0xFRF8 is also stupidly designed]. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 01:02, 3 September 2017 (EDT)		::For bonus points, Creation Club [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg-Mh0xFRF8 is also stupidly designed]. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 01:02, 3 September 2017 (EDT)

			== Creation Club Mod Firearms ==

			Thinking about writing these firearms in
			I'm considering adding the weapons from FO4's Creation Club. Should I write them seperately underneath the entries for the base game/DLC guns or should I add them in the already existing sections?
			[[User:WaltherWhiteCook\|WaltherWhiteCook]] ([[User talk:WaltherWhiteCook\|talk]]) 13:41, 22 April 2022 (EDT)

Evil Tim: /* Creation Club */

2017-09-03T05:02:12Z

Creation Club

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	If real world weapons are added by Creation Club in the future, should they be added to the page? It is official Bethesda content after all. Also there is one weapon in creation club, the gauss gun, that according the New Vegas IMFDB page, is based on a real weapon. --[[User:Slemke1998\|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998\|talk]]) 23:13, 30 August 2017 (EDT)		If real world weapons are added by Creation Club in the future, should they be added to the page? It is official Bethesda content after all. Also there is one weapon in creation club, the gauss gun, that according the New Vegas IMFDB page, is based on a real weapon. --[[User:Slemke1998\|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998\|talk]]) 23:13, 30 August 2017 (EDT)
	:As long as the content is an official part of the game, I don't see why not. Sadly, I can't really say the same for the system itself. The whole idea of paid mods is just about one of the world's most transparent cash-grabs, and I don't see how anyone could think otherwise. But, back onto the main point, it looks like the Gauss gun is mirrored, compared to the original version. It's still L-39-based, though. See ya. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 00:14, 31 August 2017 (EDT)		:As long as the content is an official part of the game, I don't see why not. Sadly, I can't really say the same for the system itself. The whole idea of paid mods is just about one of the world's most transparent cash-grabs, and I don't see how anyone could think otherwise. But, back onto the main point, it looks like the Gauss gun is mirrored, compared to the original version. It's still L-39-based, though. See ya. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 00:14, 31 August 2017 (EDT)
			::For bonus points, Creation Club [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg-Mh0xFRF8 is also stupidly designed]. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 01:02, 3 September 2017 (EDT)

Pyr0m4n14c: /* Creation Club */

2017-08-31T04:14:45Z

Creation Club

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	If real world weapons are added by Creation Club in the future, should they be added to the page? It is official Bethesda content after all. Also there is one weapon in creation club, the gauss gun, that according the New Vegas IMFDB page, is based on a real weapon. --[[User:Slemke1998\|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998\|talk]]) 23:13, 30 August 2017 (EDT)		If real world weapons are added by Creation Club in the future, should they be added to the page? It is official Bethesda content after all. Also there is one weapon in creation club, the gauss gun, that according the New Vegas IMFDB page, is based on a real weapon. --[[User:Slemke1998\|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998\|talk]]) 23:13, 30 August 2017 (EDT)
			:As long as the content is an official part of the game, I don't see why not. Sadly, I can't really say the same for the system itself. The whole idea of paid mods is just about one of the world's most transparent cash-grabs, and I don't see how anyone could think otherwise. But, back onto the main point, it looks like the Gauss gun is mirrored, compared to the original version. It's still L-39-based, though. See ya. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 00:14, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

Slemke1998: /* Creation Club */ new section

2017-08-31T03:13:01Z

Creation Club: new section

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	:If you ask me, it just seems to be an analogue for things like 5.7x28mm or 4.6x30mm- a small-diameter, extremely high-velocity round meant for dealing with armor. Now, I'm going mostly by FA:NV here, but this is further supported by its use in small, compact carbines, presumably intended to be used in a PDW-type role, and its high effectiveness against armored enemies. As for the minigun, it's probably just as this page says- to justify a ridiculously low per-shot damage value. And yeah, that scaling is just someone not thinking things through clearly. Thoughts? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 April 2017 (EDT)		:If you ask me, it just seems to be an analogue for things like 5.7x28mm or 4.6x30mm- a small-diameter, extremely high-velocity round meant for dealing with armor. Now, I'm going mostly by FA:NV here, but this is further supported by its use in small, compact carbines, presumably intended to be used in a PDW-type role, and its high effectiveness against armored enemies. As for the minigun, it's probably just as this page says- to justify a ridiculously low per-shot damage value. And yeah, that scaling is just someone not thinking things through clearly. Thoughts? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 April 2017 (EDT)
	:: I dunno, 5.7 and 4.6 are pistol sized cartridges, while 5mm is definitely at least the same length as 5.56, given the fact that the Assault Carbine and the Service Rifle use the exact same magazine model, and I always figured that the low damage was because it was punching straight through and leaving a pretty small wound channel. Also, the AC loads 4 more rounds that the SR, so it's probably thinner as well, my best guess is that it's like the XM645, but shorter. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 04:20, 26 April 2017 (EDT)		:: I dunno, 5.7 and 4.6 are pistol sized cartridges, while 5mm is definitely at least the same length as 5.56, given the fact that the Assault Carbine and the Service Rifle use the exact same magazine model, and I always figured that the low damage was because it was punching straight through and leaving a pretty small wound channel. Also, the AC loads 4 more rounds that the SR, so it's probably thinner as well, my best guess is that it's like the XM645, but shorter. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 04:20, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

			== Creation Club ==

			If real world weapons are added by Creation Club in the future, should they be added to the page? It is official Bethesda content after all. Also there is one weapon in creation club, the gauss gun, that according the New Vegas IMFDB page, is based on a real weapon. --[[User:Slemke1998\|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998\|talk]]) 23:13, 30 August 2017 (EDT)

Yocapo32: /* 5mm */

2017-04-26T08:22:30Z

5mm

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	If I remember my lore correctly, the 5mm is the Fallout equivalent of Project SALVO's 5.6mm, but with a spitzer bullet with a steel core instead of a flechette. The massive size difference in comparison to previous titles is, once again, Bethesda not giving half a petrified turd about lore and just making it up as they go along. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 20:22, 24 April 2017 (EDT)		If I remember my lore correctly, the 5mm is the Fallout equivalent of Project SALVO's 5.6mm, but with a spitzer bullet with a steel core instead of a flechette. The massive size difference in comparison to previous titles is, once again, Bethesda not giving half a petrified turd about lore and just making it up as they go along. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 20:22, 24 April 2017 (EDT)
	:If you ask me, it just seems to be an analogue for things like 5.7x28mm or 4.6x30mm- a small-diameter, extremely high-velocity round meant for dealing with armor. Now, I'm going mostly by FA:NV here, but this is further supported by its use in small, compact carbines, presumably intended to be used in a PDW-type role, and its high effectiveness against armored enemies. As for the minigun, it's probably just as this page says- to justify a ridiculously low per-shot damage value. And yeah, that scaling is just someone not thinking things through clearly. Thoughts? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 April 2017 (EDT)		:If you ask me, it just seems to be an analogue for things like 5.7x28mm or 4.6x30mm- a small-diameter, extremely high-velocity round meant for dealing with armor. Now, I'm going mostly by FA:NV here, but this is further supported by its use in small, compact carbines, presumably intended to be used in a PDW-type role, and its high effectiveness against armored enemies. As for the minigun, it's probably just as this page says- to justify a ridiculously low per-shot damage value. And yeah, that scaling is just someone not thinking things through clearly. Thoughts? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 April 2017 (EDT)
	:: I dunno, 5.7 and 4.6 are pistol sized cartridges, while 5mm is definitely at least the same length as 5.56, given ~~the size of the Minigun and~~ the fact that the Assault Carbine and the Service Rifle use the exact same ~~magazines~~, and I always figured that the low damage was because it was punching straight through and leaving a pretty small wound channel. Also, the AC loads 4 more rounds that the SR, so it's probably thinner as well, my best guess is that it's like the XM645, but shorter. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 04:20, 26 April 2017 (EDT)		:: I dunno, 5.7 and 4.6 are pistol sized cartridges, while 5mm is definitely at least the same length as 5.56, given the fact that the Assault Carbine and the Service Rifle use the exact same magazine model, and I always figured that the low damage was because it was punching straight through and leaving a pretty small wound channel. Also, the AC loads 4 more rounds that the SR, so it's probably thinner as well, my best guess is that it's like the XM645, but shorter. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 04:20, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

Yocapo32: /* 5mm */

2017-04-26T08:20:46Z

5mm

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	If I remember my lore correctly, the 5mm is the Fallout equivalent of Project SALVO's 5.6mm, but with a spitzer bullet with a steel core instead of a flechette. The massive size difference in comparison to previous titles is, once again, Bethesda not giving half a petrified turd about lore and just making it up as they go along. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 20:22, 24 April 2017 (EDT)		If I remember my lore correctly, the 5mm is the Fallout equivalent of Project SALVO's 5.6mm, but with a spitzer bullet with a steel core instead of a flechette. The massive size difference in comparison to previous titles is, once again, Bethesda not giving half a petrified turd about lore and just making it up as they go along. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 20:22, 24 April 2017 (EDT)
	:If you ask me, it just seems to be an analogue for things like 5.7x28mm or 4.6x30mm- a small-diameter, extremely high-velocity round meant for dealing with armor. Now, I'm going mostly by FA:NV here, but this is further supported by its use in small, compact carbines, presumably intended to be used in a PDW-type role, and its high effectiveness against armored enemies. As for the minigun, it's probably just as this page says- to justify a ridiculously low per-shot damage value. And yeah, that scaling is just someone not thinking things through clearly. Thoughts? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 April 2017 (EDT)		:If you ask me, it just seems to be an analogue for things like 5.7x28mm or 4.6x30mm- a small-diameter, extremely high-velocity round meant for dealing with armor. Now, I'm going mostly by FA:NV here, but this is further supported by its use in small, compact carbines, presumably intended to be used in a PDW-type role, and its high effectiveness against armored enemies. As for the minigun, it's probably just as this page says- to justify a ridiculously low per-shot damage value. And yeah, that scaling is just someone not thinking things through clearly. Thoughts? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 April 2017 (EDT)
			:: I dunno, 5.7 and 4.6 are pistol sized cartridges, while 5mm is definitely at least the same length as 5.56, given the size of the Minigun and the fact that the Assault Carbine and the Service Rifle use the exact same magazines, and I always figured that the low damage was because it was punching straight through and leaving a pretty small wound channel. Also, the AC loads 4 more rounds that the SR, so it's probably thinner as well, my best guess is that it's like the XM645, but shorter. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 04:20, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

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	If real world weapons are added by Creation Club in the future, should they be added to the page? It is official Bethesda content after all. Also there is one weapon in creation club, the gauss gun, that according the New Vegas IMFDB page, is based on a real weapon. --[[User:Slemke1998\|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998\|talk]]) 23:13, 30 August 2017 (EDT)		If real world weapons are added by Creation Club in the future, should they be added to the page? It is official Bethesda content after all. Also there is one weapon in creation club, the gauss gun, that according the New Vegas IMFDB page, is based on a real weapon. --[[User:Slemke1998\|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998\|talk]]) 23:13, 30 August 2017 (EDT)
	:As long as the content is an official part of the game, I don't see why not. Sadly, I can't really say the same for the system itself. The whole idea of paid mods is just about one of the world's most transparent cash-grabs, and I don't see how anyone could think otherwise. But, back onto the main point, it looks like the Gauss gun is mirrored, compared to the original version. It's still L-39-based, though. See ya. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 00:14, 31 August 2017 (EDT)		:As long as the content is an official part of the game, I don't see why not. Sadly, I can't really say the same for the system itself. The whole idea of paid mods is just about one of the world's most transparent cash-grabs, and I don't see how anyone could think otherwise. But, back onto the main point, it looks like the Gauss gun is mirrored, compared to the original version. It's still L-39-based, though. See ya. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 00:14, 31 August 2017 (EDT)
			::For bonus points, Creation Club [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg-Mh0xFRF8 is also stupidly designed]. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 01:02, 3 September 2017 (EDT)

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	If I remember my lore correctly, the 5mm is the Fallout equivalent of Project SALVO's 5.6mm, but with a spitzer bullet with a steel core instead of a flechette. The massive size difference in comparison to previous titles is, once again, Bethesda not giving half a petrified turd about lore and just making it up as they go along. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 20:22, 24 April 2017 (EDT)		If I remember my lore correctly, the 5mm is the Fallout equivalent of Project SALVO's 5.6mm, but with a spitzer bullet with a steel core instead of a flechette. The massive size difference in comparison to previous titles is, once again, Bethesda not giving half a petrified turd about lore and just making it up as they go along. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 20:22, 24 April 2017 (EDT)
	:If you ask me, it just seems to be an analogue for things like 5.7x28mm or 4.6x30mm- a small-diameter, extremely high-velocity round meant for dealing with armor. Now, I'm going mostly by FA:NV here, but this is further supported by its use in small, compact carbines, presumably intended to be used in a PDW-type role, and its high effectiveness against armored enemies. As for the minigun, it's probably just as this page says- to justify a ridiculously low per-shot damage value. And yeah, that scaling is just someone not thinking things through clearly. Thoughts? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 April 2017 (EDT)		:If you ask me, it just seems to be an analogue for things like 5.7x28mm or 4.6x30mm- a small-diameter, extremely high-velocity round meant for dealing with armor. Now, I'm going mostly by FA:NV here, but this is further supported by its use in small, compact carbines, presumably intended to be used in a PDW-type role, and its high effectiveness against armored enemies. As for the minigun, it's probably just as this page says- to justify a ridiculously low per-shot damage value. And yeah, that scaling is just someone not thinking things through clearly. Thoughts? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 April 2017 (EDT)
	:: I dunno, 5.7 and 4.6 are pistol sized cartridges, while 5mm is definitely at least the same length as 5.56, given ~~the size of the Minigun and~~ the fact that the Assault Carbine and the Service Rifle use the exact same ~~magazines~~, and I always figured that the low damage was because it was punching straight through and leaving a pretty small wound channel. Also, the AC loads 4 more rounds that the SR, so it's probably thinner as well, my best guess is that it's like the XM645, but shorter. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 04:20, 26 April 2017 (EDT)		:: I dunno, 5.7 and 4.6 are pistol sized cartridges, while 5mm is definitely at least the same length as 5.56, given the fact that the Assault Carbine and the Service Rifle use the exact same magazine model, and I always figured that the low damage was because it was punching straight through and leaving a pretty small wound channel. Also, the AC loads 4 more rounds that the SR, so it's probably thinner as well, my best guess is that it's like the XM645, but shorter. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 04:20, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

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	If I remember my lore correctly, the 5mm is the Fallout equivalent of Project SALVO's 5.6mm, but with a spitzer bullet with a steel core instead of a flechette. The massive size difference in comparison to previous titles is, once again, Bethesda not giving half a petrified turd about lore and just making it up as they go along. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 20:22, 24 April 2017 (EDT)		If I remember my lore correctly, the 5mm is the Fallout equivalent of Project SALVO's 5.6mm, but with a spitzer bullet with a steel core instead of a flechette. The massive size difference in comparison to previous titles is, once again, Bethesda not giving half a petrified turd about lore and just making it up as they go along. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 20:22, 24 April 2017 (EDT)
	:If you ask me, it just seems to be an analogue for things like 5.7x28mm or 4.6x30mm- a small-diameter, extremely high-velocity round meant for dealing with armor. Now, I'm going mostly by FA:NV here, but this is further supported by its use in small, compact carbines, presumably intended to be used in a PDW-type role, and its high effectiveness against armored enemies. As for the minigun, it's probably just as this page says- to justify a ridiculously low per-shot damage value. And yeah, that scaling is just someone not thinking things through clearly. Thoughts? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 April 2017 (EDT)		:If you ask me, it just seems to be an analogue for things like 5.7x28mm or 4.6x30mm- a small-diameter, extremely high-velocity round meant for dealing with armor. Now, I'm going mostly by FA:NV here, but this is further supported by its use in small, compact carbines, presumably intended to be used in a PDW-type role, and its high effectiveness against armored enemies. As for the minigun, it's probably just as this page says- to justify a ridiculously low per-shot damage value. And yeah, that scaling is just someone not thinking things through clearly. Thoughts? [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 April 2017 (EDT)
			:: I dunno, 5.7 and 4.6 are pistol sized cartridges, while 5mm is definitely at least the same length as 5.56, given the size of the Minigun and the fact that the Assault Carbine and the Service Rifle use the exact same magazines, and I always figured that the low damage was because it was punching straight through and leaving a pretty small wound channel. Also, the AC loads 4 more rounds that the SR, so it's probably thinner as well, my best guess is that it's like the XM645, but shorter. --[[User:Yocapo32\|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32\|talk]]) 04:20, 26 April 2017 (EDT)