Talk:Face of the Frog - Revision history

Slon95 at 20:40, 18 July 2020

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	Additional screenshots of the revolver make me sure that it's Mle 1892 with custom shortened barrel - broken, or cut off to make the revolver a "pocket" gun. But the SMG is still a mystery. If making wild guesses, the SMG could be Gevarm D4 with additional barrel shroud for full barrel length. AFAIK such version didn't exist. So... sorry, I have no better idea. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:46, 18 July 2020 (EDT)		Additional screenshots of the revolver make me sure that it's Mle 1892 with custom shortened barrel - broken, or cut off to make the revolver a "pocket" gun. But the SMG is still a mystery. If making wild guesses, the SMG could be Gevarm D4 with additional barrel shroud for full barrel length. AFAIK such version didn't exist. So... sorry, I have no better idea. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:46, 18 July 2020 (EDT)
			:Scroll towards the end: [https://www.revolver1873.fr/revolver-1887.php]. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 16:40, 18 July 2020 (EDT)

Greg-Z at 19:46, 18 July 2020

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			Additional screenshots of the revolver make me sure that it's Mle 1892 with custom shortened barrel - broken, or cut off to make the revolver a "pocket" gun. But the SMG is still a mystery. If making wild guesses, the SMG could be Gevarm D4 with additional barrel shroud for full barrel length. AFAIK such version didn't exist. So... sorry, I have no better idea. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:46, 18 July 2020 (EDT)

HighPhigh at 16:28, 18 July 2020

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HighPhigh at 16:10, 18 July 2020

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	::Yes, the barrel puzzled me also. If not for this part, I would be sure for Mle 1892, as the vertical front of the frame, the unsupported rod and the large hammer - all match the French revolver. Maybe this piece was simply damaged. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 11:32, 18 July 2020 (EDT)		::Yes, the barrel puzzled me also. If not for this part, I would be sure for Mle 1892, as the vertical front of the frame, the unsupported rod and the large hammer - all match the French revolver. Maybe this piece was simply damaged. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 11:32, 18 July 2020 (EDT)
	:: I also have some doubt about MP3008: the part with pistol grip below the tubular slide differs in shape than on MP3008 (and all Stens), resembling something like [[Gevarm Type D4]]. Also, if I see correct, the top part of the folding stock is horizontal, again unlike Sten family. Really, don't know, maybe all this is only a visual error. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 11:32, 18 July 2020 (EDT)		:: I also have some doubt about MP3008: the part with pistol grip below the tubular slide differs in shape than on MP3008 (and all Stens), resembling something like [[Gevarm Type D4]]. Also, if I see correct, the top part of the folding stock is horizontal, again unlike Sten family. Really, don't know, maybe all this is only a visual error. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 11:32, 18 July 2020 (EDT)
			::: More screenshots of the revolver (unfortunately it can often be seen in rapid motion) and the second SMG. I hope they are more helpful--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 12:10, 18 July 2020 (EDT)
			[[File:EdgarWallaceFrosch-rev1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
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			[[File:EdgarWallaceFrosch-SMG2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Right side.]]
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Greg-Z at 15:32, 18 July 2020

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	The unidentified revolver resembles a French [[Mle 1892 Revolver]] but I'm not sure. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 09:09, 17 July 2020 (EDT)		The unidentified revolver resembles a French [[Mle 1892 Revolver]] but I'm not sure. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 09:09, 17 July 2020 (EDT)
	: This could be, but with a shorter barrel without the front sight. I'll keep that in mind and try to get a better screenshot of it. Thank you! --[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 11:16, 18 July 2020 (EDT)		: This could be, but with a shorter barrel without the front sight. I'll keep that in mind and try to get a better screenshot of it. Thank you! --[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 11:16, 18 July 2020 (EDT)
			::Yes, the barrel puzzled me also. If not for this part, I would be sure for Mle 1892, as the vertical front of the frame, the unsupported rod and the large hammer - all match the French revolver. Maybe this piece was simply damaged. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 11:32, 18 July 2020 (EDT)
			:: I also have some doubt about MP3008: the part with pistol grip below the tubular slide differs in shape than on MP3008 (and all Stens), resembling something like [[Gevarm Type D4]]. Also, if I see correct, the top part of the folding stock is horizontal, again unlike Sten family. Really, don't know, maybe all this is only a visual error. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 11:32, 18 July 2020 (EDT)

HighPhigh at 15:16, 18 July 2020

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	The unidentified revolver resembles a French [[Mle 1892 Revolver]] but I'm not sure. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 09:09, 17 July 2020 (EDT)		The unidentified revolver resembles a French [[Mle 1892 Revolver]] but I'm not sure. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 09:09, 17 July 2020 (EDT)
			: This could be, but with a shorter barrel without the front sight. I'll keep that in mind and try to get a better screenshot of it. Thank you! --[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 11:16, 18 July 2020 (EDT)

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The unidentified revolver resembles a French [[Mle 1892 Revolver]] but I'm not sure. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 09:09, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

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	Additional screenshots of the revolver make me sure that it's Mle 1892 with custom shortened barrel - broken, or cut off to make the revolver a "pocket" gun. But the SMG is still a mystery. If making wild guesses, the SMG could be Gevarm D4 with additional barrel shroud for full barrel length. AFAIK such version didn't exist. So... sorry, I have no better idea. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:46, 18 July 2020 (EDT)		Additional screenshots of the revolver make me sure that it's Mle 1892 with custom shortened barrel - broken, or cut off to make the revolver a "pocket" gun. But the SMG is still a mystery. If making wild guesses, the SMG could be Gevarm D4 with additional barrel shroud for full barrel length. AFAIK such version didn't exist. So... sorry, I have no better idea. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:46, 18 July 2020 (EDT)
			:Scroll towards the end: [https://www.revolver1873.fr/revolver-1887.php]. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 16:40, 18 July 2020 (EDT)

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			Additional screenshots of the revolver make me sure that it's Mle 1892 with custom shortened barrel - broken, or cut off to make the revolver a "pocket" gun. But the SMG is still a mystery. If making wild guesses, the SMG could be Gevarm D4 with additional barrel shroud for full barrel length. AFAIK such version didn't exist. So... sorry, I have no better idea. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:46, 18 July 2020 (EDT)

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	[[File:EdgarWallaceFrosch-SMG3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[File:EdgarWallaceFrosch-SMG3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
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	::Yes, the barrel puzzled me also. If not for this part, I would be sure for Mle 1892, as the vertical front of the frame, the unsupported rod and the large hammer - all match the French revolver. Maybe this piece was simply damaged. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 11:32, 18 July 2020 (EDT)		::Yes, the barrel puzzled me also. If not for this part, I would be sure for Mle 1892, as the vertical front of the frame, the unsupported rod and the large hammer - all match the French revolver. Maybe this piece was simply damaged. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 11:32, 18 July 2020 (EDT)
	:: I also have some doubt about MP3008: the part with pistol grip below the tubular slide differs in shape than on MP3008 (and all Stens), resembling something like [[Gevarm Type D4]]. Also, if I see correct, the top part of the folding stock is horizontal, again unlike Sten family. Really, don't know, maybe all this is only a visual error. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 11:32, 18 July 2020 (EDT)		:: I also have some doubt about MP3008: the part with pistol grip below the tubular slide differs in shape than on MP3008 (and all Stens), resembling something like [[Gevarm Type D4]]. Also, if I see correct, the top part of the folding stock is horizontal, again unlike Sten family. Really, don't know, maybe all this is only a visual error. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 11:32, 18 July 2020 (EDT)
			::: More screenshots of the revolver (unfortunately it can often be seen in rapid motion) and the second SMG. I hope they are more helpful--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 12:10, 18 July 2020 (EDT)
			[[File:EdgarWallaceFrosch-rev1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			[[File:EdgarWallaceFrosch-rev2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			[[File:EdgarWallaceFrosch-SMG2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Right side.]]
			[[File:EdgarWallaceFrosch-SMG3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			[[File:EdgarWallaceFrosch-SMG3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]