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Laqueesha: /* Irresponsible filmmaking? */

2013-06-17T07:14:31Z

Irresponsible filmmaking?

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	:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games and television images; (3) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into a ruthless killer. This is a serious film, by a serious filmmaker. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))		:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games and television images; (3) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into a ruthless killer. This is a serious film, by a serious filmmaker. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))
	::I highly recommend an article in today's New York Times entitled, "Big Bang Theories: Violence on Screen." If permitted to post, the URL for the article is http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/03/arts/critics-on-violence-in-media.html?ref=movies#/#introduction. [[User:Elzzupa \| Elzzupa]] -[[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 13:05 (PST))		::I highly recommend an article in today's New York Times entitled, "Big Bang Theories: Violence on Screen." If permitted to post, the URL for the article is http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/03/arts/critics-on-violence-in-media.html?ref=movies#/#introduction. [[User:Elzzupa \| Elzzupa]] -[[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 13:05 (PST))
			:::I saw the movie and thought it was good. Very dark and disturbing, but good. [[User:Laqueesha\|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha\|talk]]) 03:14, 17 June 2013 (EDT)

	==Unidentified shotgun==		==Unidentified shotgun==

Laqueesha: /* Unidentified Rifle */

2013-06-17T07:13:54Z

Unidentified Rifle

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	[[Image:elephant46_sm.jpg \| thumb\| none \| 500px \| ]]		[[Image:elephant46_sm.jpg \| thumb\| none \| 500px \| ]]
	:Fairly sure it is a Bushmaster, I think the [[Bushmaster Carbon 15\|Bushmaster Carbon 15 R21]]:[[File:Bushmaster Carbon 15 R21.jpg\|thumb\|450px\|none\|Bushmaster Carbon 15 R21 with ACOG and 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]--[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:33, 2 March 2013 (EST)		:Fairly sure it is a Bushmaster, I think the [[Bushmaster Carbon 15\|Bushmaster Carbon 15 R21]]:[[File:Bushmaster Carbon 15 R21.jpg\|thumb\|450px\|none\|Bushmaster Carbon 15 R21 with ACOG and 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]--[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:33, 2 March 2013 (EST)
			::Looks like it. When I first saw the movie, I thought it was a Saiga 12K. [[User:Laqueesha\|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha\|talk]]) 03:13, 17 June 2013 (EDT)

	==Colt Model 1903 Hammerless==		==Colt Model 1903 Hammerless==
	Looks more like a [[Remington Model 51]], but not shure. --[[User:Thejoker\|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker\|talk]]) 16:23, 3 March 2013 (EST)		Looks more like a [[Remington Model 51]], but not shure. --[[User:Thejoker\|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker\|talk]]) 16:23, 3 March 2013 (EST)
	[[Image:RemingtonM51.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Remington Model 51]]		[[Image:RemingtonM51.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Remington Model 51]]

Elzzupa: /* Irresponsible filmmaking? */

2013-03-05T21:09:16Z

Irresponsible filmmaking?

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	I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])		I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])
	:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games and television images; (3) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into a ruthless killer. This is a serious film, by a serious filmmaker. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))		:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games and television images; (3) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into a ruthless killer. This is a serious film, by a serious filmmaker. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))
	::I highly recommend an article in today's New York Times entitled, "Big Bang Theories: Violence on Screen." If permitted to post, the URL for the article is http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/03/arts/critics-on-violence-in-media.html?ref=movies#/#introduction. [[User\|Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] [[~~Usertalk~~:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 13:05 (PST))		::I highly recommend an article in today's New York Times entitled, "Big Bang Theories: Violence on Screen." If permitted to post, the URL for the article is http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/03/arts/critics-on-violence-in-media.html?ref=movies#/#introduction. [[User:Elzzupa \| Elzzupa]] -[[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 13:05 (PST))

	==Unidentified shotgun==		==Unidentified shotgun==

Elzzupa: /* Irresponsible filmmaking? */

2013-03-05T21:06:28Z

Irresponsible filmmaking?

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	I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])		I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])
	:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games and television images; (3) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into a ruthless killer. This is a serious film, by a serious filmmaker. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))		:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games and television images; (3) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into a ruthless killer. This is a serious film, by a serious filmmaker. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))
			::I highly recommend an article in today's New York Times entitled, "Big Bang Theories: Violence on Screen." If permitted to post, the URL for the article is http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/03/arts/critics-on-violence-in-media.html?ref=movies#/#introduction. [[User\|Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] [[Usertalk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 13:05 (PST))

	==Unidentified shotgun==		==Unidentified shotgun==

Elzzupa: /* Irresponsible filmmaking? */

2013-03-05T17:47:05Z

Irresponsible filmmaking?

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	==Irresponsible filmmaking?==		==Irresponsible filmmaking?==
	I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])		I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])
	:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games; (3) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into a ruthless killer. This is a serious film, by a serious filmmaker. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))		:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games and television images; (3) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into a ruthless killer. This is a serious film, by a serious filmmaker. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))

	==Unidentified shotgun==		==Unidentified shotgun==

Elzzupa: /* Irresponsible filmmaking? */

2013-03-05T17:46:26Z

Irresponsible filmmaking?

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	==Irresponsible filmmaking?==		==Irresponsible filmmaking?==
	I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])		I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])
	:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games; (3) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into ruthless ~~killers~~. This is a serious film, by a serious filmmaker. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))		:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games; (3) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into a ruthless killer. This is a serious film, by a serious filmmaker. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))

	==Unidentified shotgun==		==Unidentified shotgun==

Elzzupa: /* Irresponsible filmmaking? */

2013-03-05T17:45:57Z

Irresponsible filmmaking?

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	==Irresponsible filmmaking?==		==Irresponsible filmmaking?==
	I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])		I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])
	:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games; (2) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into ruthless killers. This is a serious film, by a serious filmmaker. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))		:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games; (3) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into ruthless killers. This is a serious film, by a serious filmmaker. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))

	==Unidentified shotgun==		==Unidentified shotgun==

Elzzupa: /* Irresponsible filmmaking? */

2013-03-05T17:45:23Z

Irresponsible filmmaking?

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	==Irresponsible filmmaking?==		==Irresponsible filmmaking?==
	I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])		I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])
	:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games; (2) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into ruthless killers. This is a serious film, by a serious ~~filmmakers~~. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))		:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games; (2) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into ruthless killers. This is a serious film, by a serious filmmaker. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))

	==Unidentified shotgun==		==Unidentified shotgun==

Elzzupa: /* Irresponsible filmmaking? */

2013-03-05T17:44:30Z

Irresponsible filmmaking?

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	==Irresponsible filmmaking?==		==Irresponsible filmmaking?==
	I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])		I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])
	:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))		:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. Among other things, the film offers a serious consideration of (1) the ease of purchase of firearms over the Internet; (2) the effects of violent video games; (2) bullying; and perhaps most important, (4) the fact that not every child who has a disadvantaged background, is the victim of bullying, or plays video games turns into ruthless killers. This is a serious film, by a serious filmmakers. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))

	==Unidentified shotgun==		==Unidentified shotgun==

Elzzupa: /* Irresponsible filmmaking? */

2013-03-05T17:33:07Z

Irresponsible filmmaking?

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	I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])		I must admit I have not seen this film, but it is a very disturbing subject matter for filmmaking, even if the plot is 'fiction'. As a film goer and GUN OWNER (as well as armorer) 'fictional' stories such as this create 'myths' that eventually the general public accept as truth. In the context of the 'fictional plot' they can use ANY weapon they like, but in the real world, I shudder when I see 'assault weapons' in the hands of "re-imagined" Columbine Killers. The weapons actually used by the real world killers is known (Mossberg shotgun, Hi point Carbine, AB-10 pistols, etc) but I get uneasy when filmmakers present such a delicate subject matter with literary license. Misinformation can easily lead to more anti gun hysteria. Just my opinion of course, [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]])
			:Perhaps you should watch the film. It may not be what you expect. [[User:Elzzupa\|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa\|talk]] 5 March 2013 9:32 (PST))

	==Unidentified shotgun==		==Unidentified shotgun==

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	[[Image:elephant46_sm.jpg \| thumb\| none \| 500px \| ]]		[[Image:elephant46_sm.jpg \| thumb\| none \| 500px \| ]]
	:Fairly sure it is a Bushmaster, I think the [[Bushmaster Carbon 15\|Bushmaster Carbon 15 R21]]:[[File:Bushmaster Carbon 15 R21.jpg\|thumb\|450px\|none\|Bushmaster Carbon 15 R21 with ACOG and 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]--[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:33, 2 March 2013 (EST)		:Fairly sure it is a Bushmaster, I think the [[Bushmaster Carbon 15\|Bushmaster Carbon 15 R21]]:[[File:Bushmaster Carbon 15 R21.jpg\|thumb\|450px\|none\|Bushmaster Carbon 15 R21 with ACOG and 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]--[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:33, 2 March 2013 (EST)
			::Looks like it. When I first saw the movie, I thought it was a Saiga 12K. [[User:Laqueesha\|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha\|talk]]) 03:13, 17 June 2013 (EDT)

	==Colt Model 1903 Hammerless==		==Colt Model 1903 Hammerless==
	Looks more like a [[Remington Model 51]], but not shure. --[[User:Thejoker\|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker\|talk]]) 16:23, 3 March 2013 (EST)		Looks more like a [[Remington Model 51]], but not shure. --[[User:Thejoker\|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker\|talk]]) 16:23, 3 March 2013 (EST)
	[[Image:RemingtonM51.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Remington Model 51]]		[[Image:RemingtonM51.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Remington Model 51]]