Talk:Demolition Man - Revision history

Evil Tim: /* Museum displays */

2015-05-02T11:44:11Z

Museum displays

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	:: You make a good point, but it is so egregious since the second half of the movie depends on what was stolen from the museum, I thought clarification was necessary. [[User:Sanjuro\|Sanjuro]] ([[User talk:Sanjuro\|talk]]) 03:20, 1 May 2015 (EDT)		:: You make a good point, but it is so egregious since the second half of the movie depends on what was stolen from the museum, I thought clarification was necessary. [[User:Sanjuro\|Sanjuro]] ([[User talk:Sanjuro\|talk]]) 03:20, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
	:::Don't use that word, it is a bad word. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 04:30, 1 May 2015 (EDT)		:::Don't use that word, it is a bad word. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 04:30, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
	::In a world with no crime and no murder, would they think it necessary to disarm museum weapons? You used to be able to walk straight from the airport entrance to your seat on the plane before a-holes ruined it for everyone. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 10:42, 1 May 2015 (EDT)		::In a world with no crime and no murder, would they think it necessary to disarm museum weapons? You used to be able to walk straight from the airport entrance to your seat on the plane before a-holes ruined it for everyone. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 10:42, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
			:::Loading them might be considered a bit much, but then again considering the way their society presents itself, the tour is probably like "look at all these weapons of violence, preserved in their fully violent state." [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 07:44, 2 May 2015 (EDT)

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Funkychinaman at 14:42, 1 May 2015

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	:: You make a good point, but it is so egregious since the second half of the movie depends on what was stolen from the museum, I thought clarification was necessary. [[User:Sanjuro\|Sanjuro]] ([[User talk:Sanjuro\|talk]]) 03:20, 1 May 2015 (EDT)		:: You make a good point, but it is so egregious since the second half of the movie depends on what was stolen from the museum, I thought clarification was necessary. [[User:Sanjuro\|Sanjuro]] ([[User talk:Sanjuro\|talk]]) 03:20, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
	:::Don't use that word, it is a bad word. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 04:30, 1 May 2015 (EDT)		:::Don't use that word, it is a bad word. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 04:30, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
			::In a world with no crime and no murder, would they think it necessary to disarm museum weapons? You used to be able to walk straight from the airport entrance to your seat on the plane before a-holes ruined it for everyone. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 10:42, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
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Evil Tim: /* Museum displays */

2015-05-01T08:30:05Z

Museum displays

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	: Not to sound rude, but why do you 'need' to point that out? Pretty much all of us on here (and I would hope many who read this page) already know that. With that said, I suppose I need to point out ultimately we're talking about a fictional action film, not real life. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 17:47, 30 April 2015 (EDT)		: Not to sound rude, but why do you 'need' to point that out? Pretty much all of us on here (and I would hope many who read this page) already know that. With that said, I suppose I need to point out ultimately we're talking about a fictional action film, not real life. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 17:47, 30 April 2015 (EDT)
	:: You make a good point, but it is so egregious since the second half of the movie depends on what was stolen from the museum, I thought clarification was necessary. [[User:Sanjuro\|Sanjuro]] ([[User talk:Sanjuro\|talk]]) 03:20, 1 May 2015 (EDT)		:: You make a good point, but it is so egregious since the second half of the movie depends on what was stolen from the museum, I thought clarification was necessary. [[User:Sanjuro\|Sanjuro]] ([[User talk:Sanjuro\|talk]]) 03:20, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
			:::Don't use that word, it is a bad word. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 04:30, 1 May 2015 (EDT)

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Sanjuro: /* Museum displays */

2015-05-01T07:20:26Z

Museum displays

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	BTW, I need to point out that museum pieces will often have their firing mechanisms disabled, much less be loaded or in the case of the "Magnetic Accelerator", be charged. [[User:Sanjuro\|Sanjuro]] ([[User talk:Sanjuro\|talk]]) 16:50, 30 April 2015 (EDT)		BTW, I need to point out that museum pieces will often have their firing mechanisms disabled, much less be loaded or in the case of the "Magnetic Accelerator", be charged. [[User:Sanjuro\|Sanjuro]] ([[User talk:Sanjuro\|talk]]) 16:50, 30 April 2015 (EDT)
	: Not to sound rude, but why do you 'need' to point that out? Pretty much all of us on here (and I would hope many who read this page) already know that. With that said, I suppose I need to point out ultimately we're talking about a fictional action film, not real life. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 17:47, 30 April 2015 (EDT)		: Not to sound rude, but why do you 'need' to point that out? Pretty much all of us on here (and I would hope many who read this page) already know that. With that said, I suppose I need to point out ultimately we're talking about a fictional action film, not real life. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 17:47, 30 April 2015 (EDT)
			:: You make a good point, but it is so egregious since the second half of the movie depends on what was stolen from the museum, I thought clarification was necessary. [[User:Sanjuro\|Sanjuro]] ([[User talk:Sanjuro\|talk]]) 03:20, 1 May 2015 (EDT)

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StanTheMan: /* Museum displays */

2015-04-30T21:47:05Z

Museum displays

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	BTW, I need to point out that museum pieces will often have their firing mechanisms disabled, much less be loaded or in the case of the "Magnetic Accelerator", be charged. [[User:Sanjuro\|Sanjuro]] ([[User talk:Sanjuro\|talk]]) 16:50, 30 April 2015 (EDT)		BTW, I need to point out that museum pieces will often have their firing mechanisms disabled, much less be loaded or in the case of the "Magnetic Accelerator", be charged. [[User:Sanjuro\|Sanjuro]] ([[User talk:Sanjuro\|talk]]) 16:50, 30 April 2015 (EDT)
			: Not to sound rude, but why do you 'need' to point that out? Pretty much all of us on here (and I would hope many who read this page) already know that. With that said, I suppose I need to point out ultimately we're talking about a fictional action film, not real life. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 17:47, 30 April 2015 (EDT)

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Sanjuro: /* Museum displays */

2015-04-30T20:50:36Z

Museum displays

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	Hopefully some of my guesses are accurate. :b [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 17:13, 25 August 2010 (UTC)		Hopefully some of my guesses are accurate. :b [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 17:13, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

			BTW, I need to point out that museum pieces will often have their firing mechanisms disabled, much less be loaded or in the case of the "Magnetic Accelerator", be charged. [[User:Sanjuro\|Sanjuro]] ([[User talk:Sanjuro\|talk]]) 16:50, 30 April 2015 (EDT)

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Greg-Z at 12:36, 21 April 2015

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	First pic looks like some kind of shorthand history of U.S. infantry rifles, with the Winchester lever actions, what might be a [[Krag-Jørgensen]] carbine, a [[M1903 Springfield]], an [[M1 Garand]], and a post-war [[M1 Carbine]].		First pic looks like some kind of shorthand history of U.S. infantry rifles, with the Winchester lever actions, what might be a [[Krag-Jørgensen]] carbine, a [[M1903 Springfield]], an [[M1 Garand]], and a post-war [[M1 Carbine]].

	Second pic is all handguns, a bit hard to tell but the wheelguns all seem to be Colts (I wouldn't be sure of that, though, especially the bottom revolver). The semiautos I'm even less sure about, but I'd confidently say that the bottom pistol's a [[Glock]].		Second pic is all handguns, a bit hard to tell but the wheelguns all seem to be Colts (I wouldn't be sure of that, though, especially the bottom revolver). The semiautos I'm even less sure about, but I'd confidently say that the bottom pistol's a Glock.

	Third pic has what I believe is an [[M16A2]] (or one of those A2-handguarded-A1s), then an [[FN FNC]], [[FN FAL]], and a AKM/Type 56 without stock. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 01:00, 25 August 2010 (UTC)		Third pic has what I believe is an [[M16A2]] (or one of those A2-handguarded-A1s), then an [[FN FNC]], [[FN FAL]], and a AKM/Type 56 without stock. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] 01:00, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

MT2008 at 17:15, 6 January 2015

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	It's listed as a 59 but it seems to have both a barrel/slide and grip too small for a full-size, and doesn't seem to have the frame bulge so it's not a 59 or any hi-cap model. I think it's a compact and, given what appears to be an ambi safety, something much newer, in the 3rd Generation series - Probably a [[Smith & Wesson 3914]]. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:23, 30 November 2014 (EST)		It's listed as a 59 but it seems to have both a barrel/slide and grip too small for a full-size, and doesn't seem to have the frame bulge so it's not a 59 or any hi-cap model. I think it's a compact and, given what appears to be an ambi safety, something much newer, in the 3rd Generation series - Probably a [[Smith & Wesson 3914]]. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:23, 30 November 2014 (EST)

			==The Beretta==

			[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Beretta 92F (9x19mm) used by Bruce Willis in ''[[Die Hard]]'', and later by Sylvester Stallone in ''[[Demolition Man]]''. This is the screen-used gun from the film; note the extended mag release and slide release, which were modifications made specifically for Bruce Willis.]]

			[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎\|thumb\|350px\|none\|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm. The weapon pictured here is the actual screen used Beretta carried and fired by [[Bruce Willis]] in this film and in ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]''. Note that the magazine release is no longer reversed for left-handed shooters, since this gun was used by many other actors in other films and TV series.]]

			I suspect that the Beretta in this movie is the second gun, not the first (which is currently the one on the page). Dan Shea got his information wrong when he visited Cinema Weaponry - he apparently thought that the same Beretta 92F was used on all of the ''[[Die Hard]]'' and ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' movies. But when MPM2008 visited Cinema Weaponry in 2009 and took pictures of all the guns in Mike Papac's museum display, he learned that the 92F with extended slide release was only used on the first entries in both franchises, and then a 92FS was purchased for use on ''[[Lethal Weapon 2]]'' (and subsequently used on ''[[Die Hard 2]]''). I suspect that the Beretta in ''[[Demolition Man]]'' is also the same 92FS used from ''[[Lethal Weapon 2]]'' onwards - I say this in part because it does not have the extended slide release that was added for the first ''[[Die Hard]]''. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 12:15, 6 January 2015 (EST)

StanTheMan at 20:23, 30 November 2014

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	:Looks like a paintball gun (bottom tube for gas, middle is the barrel, top is a paintball magazine), possibly a Sheridan PMI Pursuit pistol or a relative thereof. [http://www.auctionbandits.com/gallery_images/auctionbandits-sheridan-pursuit-pmi-paintball-marker-gun.jpg Here] is a picture of a "carbine" one with a stock attached. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 11:49, 8 July 2013 (EDT) Edit: After a bit more googling I found the [http://www.vintagerex.com/pics/gunpics/PMI%20-%20Sheridan/P-68%20SC/articles/sheridan_p68-sc.jpg Sheridan P68] which is a much closer (exact IMHO) match. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 11:54, 8 July 2013 (EDT)		:Looks like a paintball gun (bottom tube for gas, middle is the barrel, top is a paintball magazine), possibly a Sheridan PMI Pursuit pistol or a relative thereof. [http://www.auctionbandits.com/gallery_images/auctionbandits-sheridan-pursuit-pmi-paintball-marker-gun.jpg Here] is a picture of a "carbine" one with a stock attached. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 11:49, 8 July 2013 (EDT) Edit: After a bit more googling I found the [http://www.vintagerex.com/pics/gunpics/PMI%20-%20Sheridan/P-68%20SC/articles/sheridan_p68-sc.jpg Sheridan P68] which is a much closer (exact IMHO) match. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 11:54, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

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			It's listed as a 59 but it seems to have both a barrel/slide and grip too small for a full-size, and doesn't seem to have the frame bulge so it's not a 59 or any hi-cap model. I think it's a compact and, given what appears to be an ambi safety, something much newer, in the 3rd Generation series - Probably a [[Smith & Wesson 3914]]. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:23, 30 November 2014 (EST)

Commando552: /* G11 Pic */

2013-07-08T15:54:16Z

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	Out of curiosity, what on Earth is that thing above the G11 on the right? [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 10:54, 8 July 2013 (EDT)		Out of curiosity, what on Earth is that thing above the G11 on the right? [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 10:54, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

	:Looks like a paintball gun (bottom tube for gas, middle is the barrel, top is a paintball magazine), possibly a Sheridan PMI Pursuit pistol or a relative thereof. [http://www.auctionbandits.com/gallery_images/auctionbandits-sheridan-pursuit-pmi-paintball-marker-gun.jpg Here] is a picture of a "carbine" one with a stock attached. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 11:49, 8 July 2013 (EDT)		:Looks like a paintball gun (bottom tube for gas, middle is the barrel, top is a paintball magazine), possibly a Sheridan PMI Pursuit pistol or a relative thereof. [http://www.auctionbandits.com/gallery_images/auctionbandits-sheridan-pursuit-pmi-paintball-marker-gun.jpg Here] is a picture of a "carbine" one with a stock attached. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 11:49, 8 July 2013 (EDT) Edit: After a bit more googling I found the [http://www.vintagerex.com/pics/gunpics/PMI%20-%20Sheridan/P-68%20SC/articles/sheridan_p68-sc.jpg Sheridan P68] which is a much closer (exact IMHO) match. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 11:54, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

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	:: You make a good point, but it is so egregious since the second half of the movie depends on what was stolen from the museum, I thought clarification was necessary. [[User:Sanjuro\|Sanjuro]] ([[User talk:Sanjuro\|talk]]) 03:20, 1 May 2015 (EDT)		:: You make a good point, but it is so egregious since the second half of the movie depends on what was stolen from the museum, I thought clarification was necessary. [[User:Sanjuro\|Sanjuro]] ([[User talk:Sanjuro\|talk]]) 03:20, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
	:::Don't use that word, it is a bad word. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 04:30, 1 May 2015 (EDT)		:::Don't use that word, it is a bad word. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 04:30, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
	::In a world with no crime and no murder, would they think it necessary to disarm museum weapons? You used to be able to walk straight from the airport entrance to your seat on the plane before a-holes ruined it for everyone. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 10:42, 1 May 2015 (EDT)		::In a world with no crime and no murder, would they think it necessary to disarm museum weapons? You used to be able to walk straight from the airport entrance to your seat on the plane before a-holes ruined it for everyone. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 10:42, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
			:::Loading them might be considered a bit much, but then again considering the way their society presents itself, the tour is probably like "look at all these weapons of violence, preserved in their fully violent state." [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 07:44, 2 May 2015 (EDT)

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	It's listed as a 59 but it seems to have both a barrel/slide and grip too small for a full-size, and doesn't seem to have the frame bulge so it's not a 59 or any hi-cap model. I think it's a compact and, given what appears to be an ambi safety, something much newer, in the 3rd Generation series - Probably a [[Smith & Wesson 3914]]. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:23, 30 November 2014 (EST)		It's listed as a 59 but it seems to have both a barrel/slide and grip too small for a full-size, and doesn't seem to have the frame bulge so it's not a 59 or any hi-cap model. I think it's a compact and, given what appears to be an ambi safety, something much newer, in the 3rd Generation series - Probably a [[Smith & Wesson 3914]]. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 15:23, 30 November 2014 (EST)

			==The Beretta==

			[[Image:BerettaM92FS-DieHard2-4.jpg‎\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Beretta 92F (9x19mm) used by Bruce Willis in ''[[Die Hard]]'', and later by Sylvester Stallone in ''[[Demolition Man]]''. This is the screen-used gun from the film; note the extended mag release and slide release, which were modifications made specifically for Bruce Willis.]]

			[[Image:BerettaM92FS DH1&LW1.jpg‎\|thumb\|350px\|none\|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm. The weapon pictured here is the actual screen used Beretta carried and fired by [[Bruce Willis]] in this film and in ''[[Die Hard with a Vengeance]]''. Note that the magazine release is no longer reversed for left-handed shooters, since this gun was used by many other actors in other films and TV series.]]

			I suspect that the Beretta in this movie is the second gun, not the first (which is currently the one on the page). Dan Shea got his information wrong when he visited Cinema Weaponry - he apparently thought that the same Beretta 92F was used on all of the ''[[Die Hard]]'' and ''[[Lethal Weapon]]'' movies. But when MPM2008 visited Cinema Weaponry in 2009 and took pictures of all the guns in Mike Papac's museum display, he learned that the 92F with extended slide release was only used on the first entries in both franchises, and then a 92FS was purchased for use on ''[[Lethal Weapon 2]]'' (and subsequently used on ''[[Die Hard 2]]''). I suspect that the Beretta in ''[[Demolition Man]]'' is also the same 92FS used from ''[[Lethal Weapon 2]]'' onwards - I say this in part because it does not have the extended slide release that was added for the first ''[[Die Hard]]''. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 12:15, 6 January 2015 (EST)