https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ADark_of_the_Sun 2026-05-28T16:12:59Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.41.0 https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_of_the_Sun&diff=552624&oldid=prev 2012-04-24T18:22:04Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:22, 24 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l10">Line 10:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 10:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Yeah, but there was no state called Katanga after 1963, so they'd be Congolese in a rebellion in 1964. Maybe the troops wouldn't have considered themselves as such, but it doesn't matter; it was no longer really possible to ''be'' Katangan / Katangese / whatever. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:34, 22 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Yeah, but there was no state called Katanga after 1963, so they'd be Congolese in a rebellion in 1964. Maybe the troops wouldn't have considered themselves as such, but it doesn't matter; it was no longer really possible to ''be'' Katangan / Katangese / whatever. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:34, 22 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Today I've read the novel ''Dark of the Sun'' by Wilbur Smith, which is the base for the movie. The story in the novel takes place before 1963, the main characters are serving in the Katanga army, and the rebels are not Simbas but the Baluba tribe. The movie takes place after 1964, during the Simba Rebellion when the former Katanga forces were independent units of new Congo army (most known among them are Mike Hoare's Commando 5 and Jean Schramme's Commando 6). The &quot;Blue Force&quot; in the movie is also the unit of former Katanga soldiers, who now on the Congo service. So let's make a decision at last and call them '''Congolese'''. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 14:03, 22 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Today I've read the novel ''Dark of the Sun'' by Wilbur Smith, which is the base for the movie. The story in the novel takes place before 1963, the main characters are serving in the Katanga army, and the rebels are not Simbas but the Baluba tribe. The movie takes place after 1964, during the Simba Rebellion when the former Katanga forces were independent units of new Congo army (most known among them are Mike Hoare's Commando 5 and Jean Schramme's Commando 6). The &quot;Blue Force&quot; in the movie is also the unit of former Katanga soldiers, who now on the Congo service. So let's make a decision at last and call them '''Congolese'''. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 14:03, 22 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::I think thats a fair enough point to have it left as Congolese troops.--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 13:22, 24 April 2012 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

The Mercenary https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_of_the_Sun&diff=551728&oldid=prev 2012-04-22T19:03:26Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 19:03, 22 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l9">Line 9:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::It does take place during the Simba Rebellion but they've blurred the lines a bit by making the UN an enemy. I'm sure there was a sign at the army camp saying something like &quot;Striker Blue Force, Army of Katanga&quot;, i know the President is based on Katanga's Moise Tshombe again confusing matters. At the time of the Simba rebellion the Army of the Republic of the Congo (ANC) was in disaray and it was pretty much down to those Katanganese troops trained by the white Mercenaries to put up the fight. These troops considered themselves as Katanganese and never as Congolese, but like whats been said they were working for the Congolese goverment who'd appointed Tshombe president in an attempt to unite the country. Back to the story, the story starts in Katanga's capital Elizabethville. The UN is supposedly still in Katanga to enforce the peace and stop anymore break aways. The town of Port Reprieve is on Lake Tanganyika again Katanga provence. Confusing? i simply don't know which would be the correct answer.--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 13:21, 22 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::It does take place during the Simba Rebellion but they've blurred the lines a bit by making the UN an enemy. I'm sure there was a sign at the army camp saying something like &quot;Striker Blue Force, Army of Katanga&quot;, i know the President is based on Katanga's Moise Tshombe again confusing matters. At the time of the Simba rebellion the Army of the Republic of the Congo (ANC) was in disaray and it was pretty much down to those Katanganese troops trained by the white Mercenaries to put up the fight. These troops considered themselves as Katanganese and never as Congolese, but like whats been said they were working for the Congolese goverment who'd appointed Tshombe president in an attempt to unite the country. Back to the story, the story starts in Katanga's capital Elizabethville. The UN is supposedly still in Katanga to enforce the peace and stop anymore break aways. The town of Port Reprieve is on Lake Tanganyika again Katanga provence. Confusing? i simply don't know which would be the correct answer.--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 13:21, 22 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Yeah, but there was no state called Katanga after 1963, so they'd be Congolese in a rebellion in 1964. Maybe the troops wouldn't have considered themselves as such, but it doesn't matter; it was no longer really possible to ''be'' Katangan / Katangese / whatever. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:34, 22 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Yeah, but there was no state called Katanga after 1963, so they'd be Congolese in a rebellion in 1964. Maybe the troops wouldn't have considered themselves as such, but it doesn't matter; it was no longer really possible to ''be'' Katangan / Katangese / whatever. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:34, 22 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::Today I've read the novel ''Dark of the Sun'' by Wilbur Smith, which is the base for the movie. The story in the novel takes place before 1963, the main characters are serving in the Katanga army, and the rebels are not Simbas but the Baluba tribe. The movie takes place after 1964, during the Simba Rebellion when the former Katanga forces were independent units of new Congo army (most known among them are Mike Hoare's Commando 5 and Jean Schramme's Commando 6). The "Blue Force" in the movie is also the unit of former Katanga soldiers, who now on the Congo service. So let's make a decision at last and call them '''Congolese'''. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 14:03, 22 April 2012 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Greg-Z https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_of_the_Sun&diff=551723&oldid=prev 2012-04-22T18:34:46Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:34, 22 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Yes it takes place during the Simba Rebellion.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:46, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Yes it takes place during the Simba Rebellion.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:46, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::It does take place during the Simba Rebellion but they've blurred the lines a bit by making the UN an enemy. I'm sure there was a sign at the army camp saying something like &quot;Striker Blue Force, Army of Katanga&quot;, i know the President is based on Katanga's Moise Tshombe again confusing matters. At the time of the Simba rebellion the Army of the Republic of the Congo (ANC) was in disaray and it was pretty much down to those Katanganese troops trained by the white Mercenaries to put up the fight. These troops considered themselves as Katanganese and never as Congolese, but like whats been said they were working for the Congolese goverment who'd appointed Tshombe president in an attempt to unite the country. Back to the story, the story starts in Katanga's capital Elizabethville. The UN is supposedly still in Katanga to enforce the peace and stop anymore break aways. The town of Port Reprieve is on Lake Tanganyika again Katanga provence. Confusing? i simply don't know which would be the correct answer.--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 13:21, 22 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::It does take place during the Simba Rebellion but they've blurred the lines a bit by making the UN an enemy. I'm sure there was a sign at the army camp saying something like &quot;Striker Blue Force, Army of Katanga&quot;, i know the President is based on Katanga's Moise Tshombe again confusing matters. At the time of the Simba rebellion the Army of the Republic of the Congo (ANC) was in disaray and it was pretty much down to those Katanganese troops trained by the white Mercenaries to put up the fight. These troops considered themselves as Katanganese and never as Congolese, but like whats been said they were working for the Congolese goverment who'd appointed Tshombe president in an attempt to unite the country. Back to the story, the story starts in Katanga's capital Elizabethville. The UN is supposedly still in Katanga to enforce the peace and stop anymore break aways. The town of Port Reprieve is on Lake Tanganyika again Katanga provence. Confusing? i simply don't know which would be the correct answer.--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 13:21, 22 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Yeah, but there was no state called Katanga after 1963, so they'd be Congolese in a rebellion in 1964. Maybe the troops wouldn't have considered themselves as such, but it doesn't matter; it was no longer really possible to ''be'' Katangan / Katangese / whatever. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:34, 22 April 2012 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Evil Tim https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_of_the_Sun&diff=551719&oldid=prev 2012-04-22T18:21:01Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:21, 22 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l7">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I'm pretty sure the story is actually set during the Simba Rebellion(1964-1965), which occurred after the Katanga separatists were crushed. The original descriptions are then correct since the mercenaries would have been working with Congolese government troops. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 17:14, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I'm pretty sure the story is actually set during the Simba Rebellion(1964-1965), which occurred after the Katanga separatists were crushed. The original descriptions are then correct since the mercenaries would have been working with Congolese government troops. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 17:14, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Yes it takes place during the Simba Rebellion.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:46, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Yes it takes place during the Simba Rebellion.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:46, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::It does take place during the Simba Rebellion but they've blurred the lines a bit by making the UN an enemy. I'm sure there was a sign at the army camp saying something like "Striker Blue Force, Army of Katanga", i know the President is based on Katanga's Moise Tshombe again confusing matters. At the time of the Simba rebellion the Army of the Republic of the Congo (ANC) was in disaray and it was pretty much down to those Katanganese troops trained by the white Mercenaries to put up the fight. These troops considered themselves as Katanganese and never as Congolese, but like whats been said they were working for the Congolese goverment who'd appointed Tshombe president in an attempt to unite the country. Back to the story, the story starts in Katanga's capital Elizabethville. The UN is supposedly still in Katanga to enforce the peace and stop anymore break aways. The town of Port Reprieve is on Lake Tanganyika again Katanga provence. Confusing? i simply don't know which would be the correct answer.--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 13:21, 22 April 2012 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

The Mercenary https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_of_the_Sun&diff=550990&oldid=prev 2012-04-20T23:46:39Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:46, 20 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l6">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Probably the best approach would be for someone to write an introduction that explains what the captions are talking about when they mention Katanga, since it's a pretty obscure state to just namedrop without context. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:59, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Probably the best approach would be for someone to write an introduction that explains what the captions are talking about when they mention Katanga, since it's a pretty obscure state to just namedrop without context. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:59, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I'm pretty sure the story is actually set during the Simba Rebellion(1964-1965), which occurred after the Katanga separatists were crushed. The original descriptions are then correct since the mercenaries would have been working with Congolese government troops. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 17:14, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I'm pretty sure the story is actually set during the Simba Rebellion(1964-1965), which occurred after the Katanga separatists were crushed. The original descriptions are then correct since the mercenaries would have been working with Congolese government troops. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 17:14, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Yes it takes place during the Simba Rebellion.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:46, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Jcordell https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_of_the_Sun&diff=550902&oldid=prev 2012-04-20T22:14:03Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:14, 20 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::&lt;s&gt;Maybe the best variant will be &quot;Congolese (Katanga)&quot;?&lt;/s&gt;I think that topicstarter is right, and the soldiers must be called Katanga, not Congolese. It was my mistake. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 13:32, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::&lt;s&gt;Maybe the best variant will be &quot;Congolese (Katanga)&quot;?&lt;/s&gt;I think that topicstarter is right, and the soldiers must be called Katanga, not Congolese. It was my mistake. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 13:32, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Probably the best approach would be for someone to write an introduction that explains what the captions are talking about when they mention Katanga, since it's a pretty obscure state to just namedrop without context. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:59, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Probably the best approach would be for someone to write an introduction that explains what the captions are talking about when they mention Katanga, since it's a pretty obscure state to just namedrop without context. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:59, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::I'm pretty sure the story is actually set during the Simba Rebellion(1964-1965), which occurred after the Katanga separatists were crushed. The original descriptions are then correct since the mercenaries would have been working with Congolese government troops. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 17:14, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Markit https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_of_the_Sun&diff=550822&oldid=prev 2012-04-20T18:59:37Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:59, 20 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l4">Line 4:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Being as Katanga's independence failed, wouldn't that be as confusing as not referring to Confederate soldiers in the US civil war as &quot;Americans?&quot; [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:05, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Being as Katanga's independence failed, wouldn't that be as confusing as not referring to Confederate soldiers in the US civil war as &quot;Americans?&quot; [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:05, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::&lt;s&gt;Maybe the best variant will be &quot;Congolese (Katanga)&quot;?&lt;/s&gt;I think that topicstarter is right, and the soldiers must be called Katanga, not Congolese. It was my mistake. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 13:32, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::&lt;s&gt;Maybe the best variant will be &quot;Congolese (Katanga)&quot;?&lt;/s&gt;I think that topicstarter is right, and the soldiers must be called Katanga, not Congolese. It was my mistake. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 13:32, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::Probably the best approach would be for someone to write an introduction that explains what the captions are talking about when they mention Katanga, since it's a pretty obscure state to just namedrop without context. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:59, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Evil Tim https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_of_the_Sun&diff=550821&oldid=prev 2012-04-20T18:57:56Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:57, 20 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The African troops aren't Congolese but from the province of Katanga, which is one of the politics behind the story. Any objections to changing it?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The African troops aren't Congolese but from the province of Katanga, which is one of the politics behind the story. Any objections to changing it?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Being as Katanga's independence failed, wouldn't that be as confusing as not referring to Confederate soldiers in the US civil war as &quot;Americans?&quot; [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:05, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Being as Katanga's independence failed, wouldn't that be as confusing as not referring to Confederate soldiers in the US civil war as &quot;Americans?&quot; [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:05, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Maybe the best variant will be "Congolese (Katanga)"? [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 13:32, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;s&gt;</ins>Maybe the best variant will be "Congolese (Katanga)"?<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">&lt;/s&gt;I think that topicstarter is right, and the soldiers must be called Katanga, not Congolese. It was my mistake. </ins>[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 13:32, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Greg-Z https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_of_the_Sun&diff=550817&oldid=prev 2012-04-20T18:32:43Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:32, 20 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The African troops aren't Congolese but from the province of Katanga, which is one of the politics behind the story. Any objections to changing it?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The African troops aren't Congolese but from the province of Katanga, which is one of the politics behind the story. Any objections to changing it?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Being as Katanga's independence failed, wouldn't that be as confusing as not referring to Confederate soldiers in the US civil war as &quot;Americans?&quot; [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:05, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Being as Katanga's independence failed, wouldn't that be as confusing as not referring to Confederate soldiers in the US civil war as &quot;Americans?&quot; [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:05, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::Maybe the best variant will be "Congolese (Katanga)"? [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 13:32, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Greg-Z https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_of_the_Sun&diff=550811&oldid=prev 2012-04-20T17:05:34Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:05, 20 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The African troops aren't Congolese but from the province of Katanga, which is one of the politics behind the story. Any objections to changing it?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The African troops aren't Congolese but from the province of Katanga, which is one of the politics behind the story. Any objections to changing it?</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Being as Katanga's independence failed, wouldn't that be as confusing as not referring to Confederate soldiers in the US civil war as "Americans?" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:05, 20 April 2012 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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