Talk:Crying Freeman - Revision history

MT2008 at 03:39, 27 August 2014

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	::::On another note, I'm thinking we could probably give it our own designation and possibly its own page - I think it qualifies for "fictional weapon" status. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 23:24, 26 August 2014 (EDT)		::::On another note, I'm thinking we could probably give it our own designation and possibly its own page - I think it qualifies for "fictional weapon" status. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 23:24, 26 August 2014 (EDT)

			:::::Actually, ignore part of what I just said - I notice that it does have a threaded barrel, which is how it was fitted with a barrel shroud in ''[[The X-Files - Season 1]]'' and those weird muzzle breaks in ''[[Timecop]]''. But I'm pretty sure it's still a scratch-made weapon that does not exist anywhere other than in Felcan's inventory. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 23:39, 26 August 2014 (EDT)

MT2008 at 03:32, 27 August 2014

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	:::Doesn't the Spectre use quad stack mags? The mags here look like dual stack Uzi mags. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 14:12, 3 July 2014 (EDT)		:::Doesn't the Spectre use quad stack mags? The mags here look like dual stack Uzi mags. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 14:12, 3 July 2014 (EDT)

	::::It's not a Spectre, even though it has a blocky appearance similar to the Spectre. It's an open-bolt weapon which, as Funkychinaman correctly points out, seems to use Uzi magazines. I think it's probably a weapon that Felcan Enterprise gunsmiths built from scratch as a sci-fi weapon, just as they built those mock-up MP5Ks (which also appear in this movie). It's so crudely shaped and designed that I find it hard to imagine any gun manufacture would ever put it on the market. It's clearly not a weapon designed for law enforcement/military because it doesn't have a stock (or even brackets for mounting a stock) or just about any features a military/LEO customer would desire (like a suppressor-ready barrel, or hooks for a sling). And it can't be a civilian "assault pistol" that was converted to auto because it doesn't even have a visible safety/selector switch (any gun manufacturer submitting a weapon without a safety for production to BATF would get laughed away) - not to mention that BATF hates open-bolt weapons. So I think the simplest explanation is that it's a weapon built from the ground up, possibly using parts from other weapons (an Uzi magazine, maybe the bolt from a MAC-type weapon).		::::It's not a Spectre, even though it has a blocky appearance similar to the Spectre. It's an open-bolt weapon which, as Funkychinaman correctly points out, seems to use Uzi magazines. I think it's probably a weapon that Felcan Enterprise gunsmiths built from scratch as a sci-fi weapon, just as they built those mock-up MP5Ks (which also appear in this movie). It's so crudely shaped and designed that I find it hard to imagine any gun manufacture would ever put it on the market. It's clearly not a weapon designed for law enforcement/military because it doesn't have a stock (or even brackets for mounting a stock) or just about any features a military/LEO customer would desire (like a suppressor-ready barrel, or hooks for a sling). And it can't be a civilian "assault pistol" that was converted to auto because it doesn't even have a visible safety/selector switch (any gun manufacturer submitting a weapon without a safety for production to BATF would get laughed away - not to mention that BATF hates open-bolt weapons). So I think the simplest explanation is that it's a weapon built from the ground up, possibly using parts from other weapons (an Uzi magazine, maybe the bolt from a MAC-type weapon).

	::::On another note, I'm thinking we could probably give it our own designation and possibly its own page - I think it qualifies for "fictional weapon" status. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 23:24, 26 August 2014 (EDT)		::::On another note, I'm thinking we could probably give it our own designation and possibly its own page - I think it qualifies for "fictional weapon" status. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 23:24, 26 August 2014 (EDT)

MT2008 at 03:31, 27 August 2014

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	:::Doesn't the Spectre use quad stack mags? The mags here look like dual stack Uzi mags. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 14:12, 3 July 2014 (EDT)		:::Doesn't the Spectre use quad stack mags? The mags here look like dual stack Uzi mags. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 14:12, 3 July 2014 (EDT)

	::::It's not a Spectre, even though it has a blocky appearance similar to the Spectre. It's an open-bolt weapon which, as Funkychinaman correctly points out, seems to use Uzi magazines. I think it's probably a weapon that Felcan Enterprise gunsmiths built from scratch as a sci-fi weapon, just as they built those mock-up MP5Ks (which also appear in this movie). It's so crudely shaped and designed that I find it hard to imagine any gun manufacture would ever put it on the market. It's clearly not a weapon designed for law enforcement/military because it doesn't have a stock (or even brackets for mounting a stock) or just about any features a military/LEO customer would desire (like a suppressor-ready barrel, or hooks for a sling). And it can't be a civilian "assault pistol" that was converted to auto because it doesn't even have a visible safety/selector switch (any gun manufacturer submitting a weapon without a safety for production to BATF would get laughed away). So I think the simplest explanation is that it's a weapon built from the ground up, possibly using parts from other weapons (an Uzi magazine, maybe the bolt from a MAC-type weapon).		::::It's not a Spectre, even though it has a blocky appearance similar to the Spectre. It's an open-bolt weapon which, as Funkychinaman correctly points out, seems to use Uzi magazines. I think it's probably a weapon that Felcan Enterprise gunsmiths built from scratch as a sci-fi weapon, just as they built those mock-up MP5Ks (which also appear in this movie). It's so crudely shaped and designed that I find it hard to imagine any gun manufacture would ever put it on the market. It's clearly not a weapon designed for law enforcement/military because it doesn't have a stock (or even brackets for mounting a stock) or just about any features a military/LEO customer would desire (like a suppressor-ready barrel, or hooks for a sling). And it can't be a civilian "assault pistol" that was converted to auto because it doesn't even have a visible safety/selector switch (any gun manufacturer submitting a weapon without a safety for production to BATF would get laughed away) - not to mention that BATF hates open-bolt weapons. So I think the simplest explanation is that it's a weapon built from the ground up, possibly using parts from other weapons (an Uzi magazine, maybe the bolt from a MAC-type weapon).

	::::On another note, I'm thinking we could probably give it our own designation and possibly its own page - I think it qualifies for "fictional weapon" status. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 23:24, 26 August 2014 (EDT)		::::On another note, I'm thinking we could probably give it our own designation and possibly its own page - I think it qualifies for "fictional weapon" status. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 23:24, 26 August 2014 (EDT)

MT2008 at 03:24, 27 August 2014

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			==Machine Pistol==

	Could it be possible the Unknown SMG is a cut down MAT-49? I say that because the shape reminds me of it. Just take off the heat shield, cut down the barrel, take off the wire stock, use the 20 round magazine and it looks just like it.		Could it be possible the Unknown SMG is a cut down MAT-49? I say that because the shape reminds me of it. Just take off the heat shield, cut down the barrel, take off the wire stock, use the 20 round magazine and it looks just like it.
	:No, the screen gun has different reciever and magazine well that cannot be changed by visual modifications. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 12:58, 3 July 2014 (EDT)		:No, the screen gun has different reciever and magazine well that cannot be changed by visual modifications. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 12:58, 3 July 2014 (EDT)
	::What about a Spectre M4?		::What about a Spectre M4?
	:::Doesn't the Spectre use quad stack mags? The mags here look like dual stack Uzi mags. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 14:12, 3 July 2014 (EDT)		:::Doesn't the Spectre use quad stack mags? The mags here look like dual stack Uzi mags. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 14:12, 3 July 2014 (EDT)

			::::It's not a Spectre, even though it has a blocky appearance similar to the Spectre. It's an open-bolt weapon which, as Funkychinaman correctly points out, seems to use Uzi magazines. I think it's probably a weapon that Felcan Enterprise gunsmiths built from scratch as a sci-fi weapon, just as they built those mock-up MP5Ks (which also appear in this movie). It's so crudely shaped and designed that I find it hard to imagine any gun manufacture would ever put it on the market. It's clearly not a weapon designed for law enforcement/military because it doesn't have a stock (or even brackets for mounting a stock) or just about any features a military/LEO customer would desire (like a suppressor-ready barrel, or hooks for a sling). And it can't be a civilian "assault pistol" that was converted to auto because it doesn't even have a visible safety/selector switch (any gun manufacturer submitting a weapon without a safety for production to BATF would get laughed away). So I think the simplest explanation is that it's a weapon built from the ground up, possibly using parts from other weapons (an Uzi magazine, maybe the bolt from a MAC-type weapon).

			::::On another note, I'm thinking we could probably give it our own designation and possibly its own page - I think it qualifies for "fictional weapon" status. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 23:24, 26 August 2014 (EDT)

Funkychinaman at 18:12, 3 July 2014

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	:No, the screen gun has different reciever and magazine well that cannot be changed by visual modifications. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 12:58, 3 July 2014 (EDT)		:No, the screen gun has different reciever and magazine well that cannot be changed by visual modifications. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 12:58, 3 July 2014 (EDT)
	::What about a Spectre M4?		::What about a Spectre M4?
			:::Doesn't the Spectre use quad stack mags? The mags here look like dual stack Uzi mags. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 14:12, 3 July 2014 (EDT)

Thescaredshadow at 18:00, 3 July 2014

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	Could it be possible the Unknown SMG is a cut down MAT-49? I say that because the shape reminds me of it. Just take off the heat shield, cut down the barrel, take off the wire stock, use the 20 round magazine and it looks just like it.		Could it be possible the Unknown SMG is a cut down MAT-49? I say that because the shape reminds me of it. Just take off the heat shield, cut down the barrel, take off the wire stock, use the 20 round magazine and it looks just like it.
	:No, the screen gun has different reciever and magazine well that cannot be changed by visual modifications. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 12:58, 3 July 2014 (EDT)		:No, the screen gun has different reciever and magazine well that cannot be changed by visual modifications. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 12:58, 3 July 2014 (EDT)
			::What about a Spectre M4?

Greg-Z at 16:58, 3 July 2014

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	Could it be possible the Unknown SMG is a cut down MAT-49? I say that because the shape reminds me of it. Just take off the heat shield, cut down the barrel, take off the wire stock, use the 20 round magazine and it looks just like it.		Could it be possible the Unknown SMG is a cut down MAT-49? I say that because the shape reminds me of it. Just take off the heat shield, cut down the barrel, take off the wire stock, use the 20 round magazine and it looks just like it.
			:No, the screen gun has different reciever and magazine well that cannot be changed by visual modifications. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 12:58, 3 July 2014 (EDT)

Thescaredshadow: Unknown smg

2014-07-03T16:33:04Z

Unknown smg

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Could it be possible the Unknown SMG is a cut down MAT-49? I say that because the shape reminds me of it. Just take off the heat shield, cut down the barrel, take off the wire stock, use the 20 round magazine and it looks just like it.