Talk:Commando Leopard - Revision history

Pandolfini at 23:05, 15 April 2014

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	= Improvised Weapons =		= Improvised and Auxiliary Weapons =
	== Plastic explosive ==		== Plastic explosive ==
	Carrasco ([[Lewis Collins]]) and Smithy ([[John Steiner]]) use plastic explosives to mine the sunken cars loaded with munitions.		Carrasco ([[Lewis Collins]]) and Smithy ([[John Steiner]]) use plastic explosives to mine the sunken cars loaded with munitions.
	[[Image:Commando Leopard-Plastic-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The plastic charge with a makeshift timer detonator.]]		[[Image:Commando Leopard-Plastic-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The plastic charge with a makeshift timer detonator.]]

			== Smoke grenade ==
			The rebels use a smoke grenade when they tried to escape the hospital.
			[[Image:Commando Leopard-Smoke-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]

			= Non Firearms =

			== Crossbow ==
			During the attack on the dam Smithy ([[John Steiner]]) uses a small crossbow to shoot a sentry.
			[[Image:Commando Leopard-Crossbow-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Smithy ([[John Steiner]]) loads his crossbow...]]
			[[Image:Commando Leopard-Crossbow-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|...and aims at the sentry.]]

	= Discussion =		= Discussion =

Greg-Z at 06:52, 19 June 2013

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			= Improvised Weapons =
			== Plastic explosive ==
			Carrasco ([[Lewis Collins]]) and Smithy ([[John Steiner]]) use plastic explosives to mine the sunken cars loaded with munitions.
			[[Image:Commando Leopard-Plastic-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The plastic charge with a makeshift timer detonator.]]

			= Discussion =
	The first unknown revolver looks like a Colt Python, the last one looks like a Colt Trooper Mk III. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 06:36, 20 June 2012 (CDT)		The first unknown revolver looks like a Colt Python, the last one looks like a Colt Trooper Mk III. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 06:36, 20 June 2012 (CDT)
	:Thanks! Revolvers (and shotguns) are my weak point. I agree that Silveira's revolver is Trooper Mk III but I'm a little in a doubt about the first revolver: Pyton has a shrouded rod, and the first revolver seems to has an open rod. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 06:53, 20 June 2012 (CDT)		:Thanks! Revolvers (and shotguns) are my weak point. I agree that Silveira's revolver is Trooper Mk III but I'm a little in a doubt about the first revolver: Pyton has a shrouded rod, and the first revolver seems to has an open rod. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 06:53, 20 June 2012 (CDT)

Greg-Z: /* Unidentified revolver, part 2. */ new section

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Unidentified revolver, part 2.: new section

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	: Agree. Is it an M1A1? [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:49, 12 April 2013 (EDT)		: Agree. Is it an M1A1? [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:49, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
	:: Fixed. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:46, 13 April 2013 (EDT)		:: Fixed. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:46, 13 April 2013 (EDT)

			== Unidentified revolver, part 2. ==

			[[Image:Commando Leopard-Revolver-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]
			I have a guess that this revolver is of local Philippine manufacture. Armscor manufactures several Colt-style revolvers, one of which is [http://www.armscor.com.ph/img/firearms/Revolvers/fullsize/m202.JPG M202]. It has similarity with the screen-used gun, and the difference can be explained by the fact that Armscor web site contains the photo of modern version of M202 (though I couldn't find any info about Armscor revolvers that were produced in 1980s). [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:03, 13 April 2013 (EDT)

Greg-Z: /* Thompson */

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Thompson

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	[[Image:Commando Leopard-Thompson-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A rebel with M1928A1 Thomspon during the attack on the damb. His comrade is armed with [[M16A1]].]]		[[Image:Commando Leopard-Thompson-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A rebel with M1928A1 Thomspon during the attack on the damb. His comrade is armed with [[M16A1]].]]
	: Agree. Is it an M1A1? [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:49, 12 April 2013 (EDT)		: Agree. Is it an M1A1? [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:49, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
			:: Fixed. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:46, 13 April 2013 (EDT)

Greg-Z: /* Thompson */

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Thompson

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	Are you sure that's a M1928A1? From this angle, we should be able to see the bolt actuator on top of the receiver, and probably the cutts compensator as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 16:28, 12 April 2013 (EDT)		Are you sure that's a M1928A1? From this angle, we should be able to see the bolt actuator on top of the receiver, and probably the cutts compensator as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 16:28, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
	[[Image:Commando Leopard-Thompson-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A rebel with M1928A1 Thomspon during the attack on the damb. His comrade is armed with [[M16A1]].]]		[[Image:Commando Leopard-Thompson-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A rebel with M1928A1 Thomspon during the attack on the damb. His comrade is armed with [[M16A1]].]]
			: Agree. Is it an M1A1? [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:49, 12 April 2013 (EDT)

Funkychinaman: /* Thompson */ new section

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Thompson: new section

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	Gun mantlet is totally wrong for a Scorpion, but is an exact match for the Chaffee. [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MlcIJtVqC0I/SUUdHkIIuMI/AAAAAAAABb8/hjdS2oVZXvg/s1600-h/26_77247_80928cf40a89438.jpg Here] is a rear view of the Chaffee which looks like a match, so it appears the turret is backwards. Also, didn't realise this was Philippines filmed, that explains the round plungers on the M16A1 forward assists (this was typical of the Philippine made Elisco rifles). --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 13:42, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		Gun mantlet is totally wrong for a Scorpion, but is an exact match for the Chaffee. [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MlcIJtVqC0I/SUUdHkIIuMI/AAAAAAAABb8/hjdS2oVZXvg/s1600-h/26_77247_80928cf40a89438.jpg Here] is a rear view of the Chaffee which looks like a match, so it appears the turret is backwards. Also, didn't realise this was Philippines filmed, that explains the round plungers on the M16A1 forward assists (this was typical of the Philippine made Elisco rifles). --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 13:42, 21 June 2012 (CDT)
	:It's interesting about Philippine-made M16s. Thanks, I'll add it to the page. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 13:50, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		:It's interesting about Philippine-made M16s. Thanks, I'll add it to the page. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 13:50, 21 June 2012 (CDT)

			== Thompson ==

			Are you sure that's a M1928A1? From this angle, we should be able to see the bolt actuator on top of the receiver, and probably the cutts compensator as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 16:28, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
			[[Image:Commando Leopard-Thompson-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A rebel with M1928A1 Thomspon during the attack on the damb. His comrade is armed with [[M16A1]].]]

Greg-Z: /* Tanks */

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Tanks

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	::::Whoops. I didn't think they'd use both. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 12:33, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		::::Whoops. I didn't think they'd use both. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 12:33, 21 June 2012 (CDT)
	Gun mantlet is totally wrong for a Scorpion, but is an exact match for the Chaffee. [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MlcIJtVqC0I/SUUdHkIIuMI/AAAAAAAABb8/hjdS2oVZXvg/s1600-h/26_77247_80928cf40a89438.jpg Here] is a rear view of the Chaffee which looks like a match, so it appears the turret is backwards. Also, didn't realise this was Philippines filmed, that explains the round plungers on the M16A1 forward assists (this was typical of the Philippine made Elisco rifles). --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 13:42, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		Gun mantlet is totally wrong for a Scorpion, but is an exact match for the Chaffee. [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MlcIJtVqC0I/SUUdHkIIuMI/AAAAAAAABb8/hjdS2oVZXvg/s1600-h/26_77247_80928cf40a89438.jpg Here] is a rear view of the Chaffee which looks like a match, so it appears the turret is backwards. Also, didn't realise this was Philippines filmed, that explains the round plungers on the M16A1 forward assists (this was typical of the Philippine made Elisco rifles). --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 13:42, 21 June 2012 (CDT)
			:It's interesting about Philippine-made M16s. Thanks, I'll add it to the page. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 13:50, 21 June 2012 (CDT)

Commando552: /* Tanks */

2012-06-21T18:46:49Z

Tanks

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	:::Philippines used Scorpions, according to Wikipedia. But the version about the turned back turret fits good. OK, I'll correct the page. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 11:58, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		:::Philippines used Scorpions, according to Wikipedia. But the version about the turned back turret fits good. OK, I'll correct the page. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 11:58, 21 June 2012 (CDT)
	::::Whoops. I didn't think they'd use both. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 12:33, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		::::Whoops. I didn't think they'd use both. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 12:33, 21 June 2012 (CDT)
	Gun mantlet is totally wrong for a Scorpion, but is an exact match for the Chaffee. [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MlcIJtVqC0I/SUUdHkIIuMI/AAAAAAAABb8/hjdS2oVZXvg/s1600-h/26_77247_80928cf40a89438.jpg Here] is a rear view of the Chaffee which looks like a match, so it appears the turret is backwards. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 13:42, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		Gun mantlet is totally wrong for a Scorpion, but is an exact match for the Chaffee. [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MlcIJtVqC0I/SUUdHkIIuMI/AAAAAAAABb8/hjdS2oVZXvg/s1600-h/26_77247_80928cf40a89438.jpg Here] is a rear view of the Chaffee which looks like a match, so it appears the turret is backwards. Also, didn't realise this was Philippines filmed, that explains the round plungers on the M16A1 forward assists (this was typical of the Philippine made Elisco rifles). --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 13:42, 21 June 2012 (CDT)

Commando552: /* Tanks */

2012-06-21T18:42:43Z

Tanks

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	:::Philippines used Scorpions, according to Wikipedia. But the version about the turned back turret fits good. OK, I'll correct the page. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 11:58, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		:::Philippines used Scorpions, according to Wikipedia. But the version about the turned back turret fits good. OK, I'll correct the page. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 11:58, 21 June 2012 (CDT)
	::::Whoops. I didn't think they'd use both. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 12:33, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		::::Whoops. I didn't think they'd use both. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 12:33, 21 June 2012 (CDT)
			Gun mantlet is totally wrong for a Scorpion, but is an exact match for the Chaffee. [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MlcIJtVqC0I/SUUdHkIIuMI/AAAAAAAABb8/hjdS2oVZXvg/s1600-h/26_77247_80928cf40a89438.jpg Here] is a rear view of the Chaffee which looks like a match, so it appears the turret is backwards. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 13:42, 21 June 2012 (CDT)

Funkychinaman at 17:33, 21 June 2012

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	::The turret doesn't look right though, and it's possible that the turret is pointing to the rear of the tank. The film was also made in the Philippines, a country that didn't use Scorpions, but did use M24s. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 11:55, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		::The turret doesn't look right though, and it's possible that the turret is pointing to the rear of the tank. The film was also made in the Philippines, a country that didn't use Scorpions, but did use M24s. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 11:55, 21 June 2012 (CDT)
	:::Philippines used Scorpions, according to Wikipedia. But the version about the turned back turret fits good. OK, I'll correct the page. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 11:58, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		:::Philippines used Scorpions, according to Wikipedia. But the version about the turned back turret fits good. OK, I'll correct the page. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 11:58, 21 June 2012 (CDT)
			::::Whoops. I didn't think they'd use both. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 12:33, 21 June 2012 (CDT)

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	: Agree. Is it an M1A1? [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:49, 12 April 2013 (EDT)		: Agree. Is it an M1A1? [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:49, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
	:: Fixed. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:46, 13 April 2013 (EDT)		:: Fixed. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:46, 13 April 2013 (EDT)

			== Unidentified revolver, part 2. ==

			[[Image:Commando Leopard-Revolver-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]
			I have a guess that this revolver is of local Philippine manufacture. Armscor manufactures several Colt-style revolvers, one of which is [http://www.armscor.com.ph/img/firearms/Revolvers/fullsize/m202.JPG M202]. It has similarity with the screen-used gun, and the difference can be explained by the fact that Armscor web site contains the photo of modern version of M202 (though I couldn't find any info about Armscor revolvers that were produced in 1980s). [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:03, 13 April 2013 (EDT)

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	[[Image:Commando Leopard-Thompson-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A rebel with M1928A1 Thomspon during the attack on the damb. His comrade is armed with [[M16A1]].]]		[[Image:Commando Leopard-Thompson-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A rebel with M1928A1 Thomspon during the attack on the damb. His comrade is armed with [[M16A1]].]]
	: Agree. Is it an M1A1? [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:49, 12 April 2013 (EDT)		: Agree. Is it an M1A1? [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:49, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
			:: Fixed. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:46, 13 April 2013 (EDT)

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	Are you sure that's a M1928A1? From this angle, we should be able to see the bolt actuator on top of the receiver, and probably the cutts compensator as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 16:28, 12 April 2013 (EDT)		Are you sure that's a M1928A1? From this angle, we should be able to see the bolt actuator on top of the receiver, and probably the cutts compensator as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 16:28, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
	[[Image:Commando Leopard-Thompson-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A rebel with M1928A1 Thomspon during the attack on the damb. His comrade is armed with [[M16A1]].]]		[[Image:Commando Leopard-Thompson-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A rebel with M1928A1 Thomspon during the attack on the damb. His comrade is armed with [[M16A1]].]]
			: Agree. Is it an M1A1? [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:49, 12 April 2013 (EDT)

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	Gun mantlet is totally wrong for a Scorpion, but is an exact match for the Chaffee. [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MlcIJtVqC0I/SUUdHkIIuMI/AAAAAAAABb8/hjdS2oVZXvg/s1600-h/26_77247_80928cf40a89438.jpg Here] is a rear view of the Chaffee which looks like a match, so it appears the turret is backwards. Also, didn't realise this was Philippines filmed, that explains the round plungers on the M16A1 forward assists (this was typical of the Philippine made Elisco rifles). --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 13:42, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		Gun mantlet is totally wrong for a Scorpion, but is an exact match for the Chaffee. [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MlcIJtVqC0I/SUUdHkIIuMI/AAAAAAAABb8/hjdS2oVZXvg/s1600-h/26_77247_80928cf40a89438.jpg Here] is a rear view of the Chaffee which looks like a match, so it appears the turret is backwards. Also, didn't realise this was Philippines filmed, that explains the round plungers on the M16A1 forward assists (this was typical of the Philippine made Elisco rifles). --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 13:42, 21 June 2012 (CDT)
	:It's interesting about Philippine-made M16s. Thanks, I'll add it to the page. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 13:50, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		:It's interesting about Philippine-made M16s. Thanks, I'll add it to the page. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 13:50, 21 June 2012 (CDT)

			== Thompson ==

			Are you sure that's a M1928A1? From this angle, we should be able to see the bolt actuator on top of the receiver, and probably the cutts compensator as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 16:28, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
			[[Image:Commando Leopard-Thompson-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A rebel with M1928A1 Thomspon during the attack on the damb. His comrade is armed with [[M16A1]].]]

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	::::Whoops. I didn't think they'd use both. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 12:33, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		::::Whoops. I didn't think they'd use both. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 12:33, 21 June 2012 (CDT)
	Gun mantlet is totally wrong for a Scorpion, but is an exact match for the Chaffee. [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MlcIJtVqC0I/SUUdHkIIuMI/AAAAAAAABb8/hjdS2oVZXvg/s1600-h/26_77247_80928cf40a89438.jpg Here] is a rear view of the Chaffee which looks like a match, so it appears the turret is backwards. Also, didn't realise this was Philippines filmed, that explains the round plungers on the M16A1 forward assists (this was typical of the Philippine made Elisco rifles). --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 13:42, 21 June 2012 (CDT)		Gun mantlet is totally wrong for a Scorpion, but is an exact match for the Chaffee. [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MlcIJtVqC0I/SUUdHkIIuMI/AAAAAAAABb8/hjdS2oVZXvg/s1600-h/26_77247_80928cf40a89438.jpg Here] is a rear view of the Chaffee which looks like a match, so it appears the turret is backwards. Also, didn't realise this was Philippines filmed, that explains the round plungers on the M16A1 forward assists (this was typical of the Philippine made Elisco rifles). --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 13:42, 21 June 2012 (CDT)
			:It's interesting about Philippine-made M16s. Thanks, I'll add it to the page. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 13:50, 21 June 2012 (CDT)