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Caldwellb734: /* Not a Para-Ordnance P18 */

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	== Not a Para-Ordnance P18 ==		== Not a Para-Ordnance P18 ==

	The pistol currently identified as a Para-Ordnance P18 does not appear to be a P18 based on the current screenshots. Based on said screenshots, it appears to be a genuine Colt Series 70 or Series 80 1911 based on the rollmarks visible on the slide in two of the screenshots, as well as the clearly single-stack frame (which lacks the bulges of the Para-Ordnance's double-stack frame).		The pistol currently identified as a Para-Ordnance P18 does not appear to be a P18 based on the current screenshots. Based on said screenshots, it appears to be a genuine Colt Series 70 or Series 80 1911 based on the rollmarks visible on the slide in two of the screenshots, as well as the clearly single-stack frame (which lacks the bulges of the Para-Ordnance's double-stack frame). --[[User:Caldwellb734\|Caldwellb734]] ([[User talk:Caldwellb734\|talk]]) 16:12, 22 November 2017 (EST)
	[[Image:Para Ordinance P-18 9mm.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Para-Ordnance P-18, note the double stack frame and P18 rollmarks on the slide - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:Para Ordinance P-18 9mm.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Para-Ordnance P-18, note the double stack frame and P18 rollmarks on the slide - 9x19mm]]
	[[Image:Colt45-001.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|The 1911 currently identified as a P18. Note the single-stack frame and lack of rollmarks.]]		[[Image:Colt45-001.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|The 1911 currently identified as a P18. Note the single-stack frame and lack of rollmarks.]]
	[[Image:Colt45-003.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|The opposite side of the gun, which shows Colt Series 70 or Series 80 rollmarks along the slide. The rampant Colt pony is visible upon closer inspection.]]		[[Image:Colt45-003.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|The opposite side of the gun, which shows Colt Series 70 or Series 80 rollmarks along the slide. The rampant Colt pony is visible upon closer inspection.]]

Caldwellb734: /* Not a Para-Ordnance P18 */

2017-11-22T21:08:57Z

Not a Para-Ordnance P18

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	The pistol currently identified as a Para-Ordnance P18 does not appear to be a P18 based on the current screenshots. Based on said screenshots, it appears to be a genuine Colt Series 70 or Series 80 1911 based on the rollmarks visible on the slide in two of the screenshots, as well as the clearly single-stack frame (which lacks the bulges of the Para-Ordnance's double-stack frame).		The pistol currently identified as a Para-Ordnance P18 does not appear to be a P18 based on the current screenshots. Based on said screenshots, it appears to be a genuine Colt Series 70 or Series 80 1911 based on the rollmarks visible on the slide in two of the screenshots, as well as the clearly single-stack frame (which lacks the bulges of the Para-Ordnance's double-stack frame).
	[[Image:Para Ordinance P-18 9mm.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Para-Ordnance P-18 - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:Para Ordinance P-18 9mm.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Para-Ordnance P-18, note the double stack frame and P18 rollmarks on the slide - 9x19mm]]
	[[Image:Colt45-001.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|The 1911 currently identified as a P18. Note the single-stack frame.]]		[[Image:Colt45-001.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|The 1911 currently identified as a P18. Note the single-stack frame and lack of rollmarks.]]
	[[Image:Colt45-003.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|The opposite side of the gun, which shows Colt Series 70 or Series 80 rollmarks along the slide. The rampant Colt pony is visible upon closer inspection.]]		[[Image:Colt45-003.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|The opposite side of the gun, which shows Colt Series 70 or Series 80 rollmarks along the slide. The rampant Colt pony is visible upon closer inspection.]]

Caldwellb734: /* Not a Para-Ordnance P18 */ new section

2017-11-22T21:08:11Z

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	::I think it is the same rifle as the one that is currently labelled as an HK416. However, that rifle is absolutely 100% not an HK416. Firstly, if you look at the selector markings they are normal plain text ones as opposed to the H&K pictograms that are painted in. Granted, this is not necessarily deffinitive as the lower could have been changed, however there are difference with the upper as well. On the HK416 the receiver rail steps up away from the receiver about an inch ahead of the charging handle (I believe to give it extra room for the piston design), however this rifle doesn't do this, instead being the normal AR-15 shape. Related to this, you can also see that the barrel is located vertically in the middle of the handguard, whereas on an HK416 it is below the centre line (still in line with the middle of the side rail, but the top rail is set higher away from the barrel than the bottom). Lastly, the handguard is a Samson STAR-MX, which doesn't fit on an HK416. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:01, 19 July 2015 (EDT)		::I think it is the same rifle as the one that is currently labelled as an HK416. However, that rifle is absolutely 100% not an HK416. Firstly, if you look at the selector markings they are normal plain text ones as opposed to the H&K pictograms that are painted in. Granted, this is not necessarily deffinitive as the lower could have been changed, however there are difference with the upper as well. On the HK416 the receiver rail steps up away from the receiver about an inch ahead of the charging handle (I believe to give it extra room for the piston design), however this rifle doesn't do this, instead being the normal AR-15 shape. Related to this, you can also see that the barrel is located vertically in the middle of the handguard, whereas on an HK416 it is below the centre line (still in line with the middle of the side rail, but the top rail is set higher away from the barrel than the bottom). Lastly, the handguard is a Samson STAR-MX, which doesn't fit on an HK416. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:01, 19 July 2015 (EDT)
	:::I noticed this too, Maybe we should change it to "Custom AR15"?--[[User:BlackHawk510\|BlackHawk510]] ([[User talk:BlackHawk510\|talk]]) 11:54, 21 March 2016 (EDT)		:::I noticed this too, Maybe we should change it to "Custom AR15"?--[[User:BlackHawk510\|BlackHawk510]] ([[User talk:BlackHawk510\|talk]]) 11:54, 21 March 2016 (EDT)

			== Not a Para-Ordnance P18 ==

			The pistol currently identified as a Para-Ordnance P18 does not appear to be a P18 based on the current screenshots. Based on said screenshots, it appears to be a genuine Colt Series 70 or Series 80 1911 based on the rollmarks visible on the slide in two of the screenshots, as well as the clearly single-stack frame (which lacks the bulges of the Para-Ordnance's double-stack frame).
			[[Image:Para Ordinance P-18 9mm.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Para-Ordnance P-18 - 9x19mm]]
			[[Image:Colt45-001.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|The 1911 currently identified as a P18. Note the single-stack frame.]]
			[[Image:Colt45-003.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|The opposite side of the gun, which shows Colt Series 70 or Series 80 rollmarks along the slide. The rampant Colt pony is visible upon closer inspection.]]

BlackHawk510: /* Unidentified Weapons */

2016-03-21T15:54:42Z

Unidentified Weapons

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	:Looks like the HK416 to me. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 22:06, 19 July 2015 (GMT)		:Looks like the HK416 to me. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 22:06, 19 July 2015 (GMT)
	::I think it is the same rifle as the one that is currently labelled as an HK416. However, that rifle is absolutely 100% not an HK416. Firstly, if you look at the selector markings they are normal plain text ones as opposed to the H&K pictograms that are painted in. Granted, this is not necessarily deffinitive as the lower could have been changed, however there are difference with the upper as well. On the HK416 the receiver rail steps up away from the receiver about an inch ahead of the charging handle (I believe to give it extra room for the piston design), however this rifle doesn't do this, instead being the normal AR-15 shape. Related to this, you can also see that the barrel is located vertically in the middle of the handguard, whereas on an HK416 it is below the centre line (still in line with the middle of the side rail, but the top rail is set higher away from the barrel than the bottom). Lastly, the handguard is a Samson STAR-MX, which doesn't fit on an HK416. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:01, 19 July 2015 (EDT)		::I think it is the same rifle as the one that is currently labelled as an HK416. However, that rifle is absolutely 100% not an HK416. Firstly, if you look at the selector markings they are normal plain text ones as opposed to the H&K pictograms that are painted in. Granted, this is not necessarily deffinitive as the lower could have been changed, however there are difference with the upper as well. On the HK416 the receiver rail steps up away from the receiver about an inch ahead of the charging handle (I believe to give it extra room for the piston design), however this rifle doesn't do this, instead being the normal AR-15 shape. Related to this, you can also see that the barrel is located vertically in the middle of the handguard, whereas on an HK416 it is below the centre line (still in line with the middle of the side rail, but the top rail is set higher away from the barrel than the bottom). Lastly, the handguard is a Samson STAR-MX, which doesn't fit on an HK416. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:01, 19 July 2015 (EDT)
			:::I noticed this too, Maybe we should change it to "Custom AR15"?--[[User:BlackHawk510\|BlackHawk510]] ([[User talk:BlackHawk510\|talk]]) 11:54, 21 March 2016 (EDT)

Commando552 at 22:01, 19 July 2015

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	:Looks like the HK416 to me. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 22:06, 19 July 2015 (GMT)		:Looks like the HK416 to me. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 22:06, 19 July 2015 (GMT)
			::I think it is the same rifle as the one that is currently labelled as an HK416. However, that rifle is absolutely 100% not an HK416. Firstly, if you look at the selector markings they are normal plain text ones as opposed to the H&K pictograms that are painted in. Granted, this is not necessarily deffinitive as the lower could have been changed, however there are difference with the upper as well. On the HK416 the receiver rail steps up away from the receiver about an inch ahead of the charging handle (I believe to give it extra room for the piston design), however this rifle doesn't do this, instead being the normal AR-15 shape. Related to this, you can also see that the barrel is located vertically in the middle of the handguard, whereas on an HK416 it is below the centre line (still in line with the middle of the side rail, but the top rail is set higher away from the barrel than the bottom). Lastly, the handguard is a Samson STAR-MX, which doesn't fit on an HK416. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:01, 19 July 2015 (EDT)

RedRobinAlpha at 21:07, 19 July 2015

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	[[Image:Colt45-00Y.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|]]		[[Image:Colt45-00Y.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|]]
	[[Image:Colt45-00X.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|]]		[[Image:Colt45-00X.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|]]#
			:Looks like the HK416 to me. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 22:06, 19 July 2015 (GMT)

Pandolfini at 18:02, 19 July 2015

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	Only the last two caps definitively show a Para-Ordnance M1911. The others are a clearly different pistol. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 18:54, 7 May 2015 (EDT) All is Para - http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Para_Ordinance_P-18_9mm.jpg		Only the last two caps definitively show a Para-Ordnance M1911. The others are a clearly different pistol. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 18:54, 7 May 2015 (EDT) All is Para - http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Para_Ordinance_P-18_9mm.jpg

			Lieutenant Joseph Fleischmann ([[Antoine Basler]]) is seen with an unidentified revolver.
			[[Image:Colt45-01R.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|Fleischmann with the revolver holstered.]]
	In some scenes are seen unidentified assault rifles.--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 17:06, 8 May 2015 (EDT)		In some scenes are seen unidentified assault rifles.--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 17:06, 8 May 2015 (EDT)

Pandolfini at 06:08, 11 May 2015

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	:Top one looks like a [[Beretta ARX-160]] --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 00:18, 08 May 2015 (GMT) Thx!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:52, 9 May 2015 (EDT)		:Top one looks like a [[Beretta ARX-160]] --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 00:18, 08 May 2015 (GMT) Thx!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:52, 9 May 2015 (EDT)
	::Bottom one isn't an assault rifle, it is a [[FN Minimi Para]]. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 10:20, 9 May 2015 (EDT)		::Bottom one isn't an assault rifle, it is a [[FN Minimi Para]]. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 10:20, 9 May 2015 (EDT)

			What weapons used during a firefight by these thugs?--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 02:08, 11 May 2015 (EDT)

			[[Image:Colt45-00Y.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|]]
			[[Image:Colt45-00X.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|]]

Pandolfini at 05:04, 10 May 2015

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	:Top one looks like a [[Beretta ARX-160]] --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 00:18, 08 May 2015 (GMT) Thx!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:52, 9 May 2015 (EDT)		:Top one looks like a [[Beretta ARX-160]] --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 00:18, 08 May 2015 (GMT) Thx!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:52, 9 May 2015 (EDT)
	::Bottom one isn't an assault rifle, it is a [[FN Minimi Para]]. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 10:20, 9 May 2015 (EDT)		::Bottom one isn't an assault rifle, it is a [[FN Minimi Para]]. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 10:20, 9 May 2015 (EDT)
	~~This "[[Heckler & Koch MP5A2]]s" they look like a assault rifle!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 10:12, 9 May 2015 (EDT)~~

	~~[[Image:Colt45-026.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|]]~~

Commando552: /* Unidentified Weapons */

2015-05-09T15:59:23Z

Unidentified Weapons

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	Unidentified pistol looks like a 'SIG Sauer P226 X5', also The unidentified Sniper Rifle looks like a 'Nemesis Arms Vanquish' but the second image in the section is of the HK416 not the Sniper Rifle.--[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 22:13, 07 May 2015 (GMT)		Unidentified pistol looks like a 'SIG Sauer P226 X5', also The unidentified Sniper Rifle looks like a 'Nemesis Arms Vanquish' but the second image in the section is of the HK416 not the Sniper Rifle.--[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 22:13, 07 May 2015 (GMT)
	: The Benelli looks more like a shorty or 'Entry' M3 Super-90 rather than an M4. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 18:23, 7 May 2015 (EDT)		: The Benelli looks more like a shorty or 'Entry' M3 Super-90 rather than an M4. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 18:23, 7 May 2015 (EDT)
	::This is the latest version of the M3 with a retractable stock, which I believe may have been developed for a [http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/03/02/nzdf-adopts-benelli-m3/ NZ military contract]: [[File:Benelli M3 Entry new.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Benelli M3 Super 90 Entry, new model - 12 gauge]]Benelli calls it an M3, but in reality it appears to be a ~~gybrid~~ of a ~~shole~~ load of Benelli products, with a pump action from the M3, a receiver and trigger guard from the M2, stock from a [[Benelli Supernova]] (same as the [[Beretta Rx4 Storm]]), nd the sights, rail and bolt handle from an M4. Incidentally, there is actually a Benelli M4 in this movie, there is one at the top of the weapons cabinet on the right:[[File:Colt45-030.jpg\|thumb\|600px\|none\|]]Also in this shot is a Colt Model 727 below the Benelli M4, an H&K UMP on the rack on the left, and a couple of un-100%-identifiable AR-15 carbines. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 11:58, 9 May 2015 (EDT)		::This is the latest version of the M3 with a retractable stock, which I believe may have been developed for a [http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/03/02/nzdf-adopts-benelli-m3/ NZ military contract]: [[File:Benelli M3 Entry new.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Benelli M3 Super 90 Entry, new model - 12 gauge]]Benelli calls it an M3, but in reality it appears to be a hybrid of a whole load of Benelli products, with a pump action from the M3, a receiver and trigger guard from the M2, stock from a [[Benelli Supernova]] (same as the [[Beretta Rx4 Storm]]), and the sights, rail and bolt handle from an M4. Incidentally, there is actually a Benelli M4 in this movie, there is one at the top of the weapons cabinet on the right:[[File:Colt45-030.jpg\|thumb\|600px\|none\|]]Also in this shot is a Colt Model 727 below the Benelli M4, an H&K UMP on the rack on the left, and a couple of un-100%-identifiable AR-15 carbines. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 11:58, 9 May 2015 (EDT)

	Only the last two caps definitively show a Para-Ordnance M1911. The others are a clearly different pistol. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 18:54, 7 May 2015 (EDT) All is Para - http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Para_Ordinance_P-18_9mm.jpg		Only the last two caps definitively show a Para-Ordnance M1911. The others are a clearly different pistol. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 18:54, 7 May 2015 (EDT) All is Para - http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Para_Ordinance_P-18_9mm.jpg

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	::I think it is the same rifle as the one that is currently labelled as an HK416. However, that rifle is absolutely 100% not an HK416. Firstly, if you look at the selector markings they are normal plain text ones as opposed to the H&K pictograms that are painted in. Granted, this is not necessarily deffinitive as the lower could have been changed, however there are difference with the upper as well. On the HK416 the receiver rail steps up away from the receiver about an inch ahead of the charging handle (I believe to give it extra room for the piston design), however this rifle doesn't do this, instead being the normal AR-15 shape. Related to this, you can also see that the barrel is located vertically in the middle of the handguard, whereas on an HK416 it is below the centre line (still in line with the middle of the side rail, but the top rail is set higher away from the barrel than the bottom). Lastly, the handguard is a Samson STAR-MX, which doesn't fit on an HK416. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:01, 19 July 2015 (EDT)		::I think it is the same rifle as the one that is currently labelled as an HK416. However, that rifle is absolutely 100% not an HK416. Firstly, if you look at the selector markings they are normal plain text ones as opposed to the H&K pictograms that are painted in. Granted, this is not necessarily deffinitive as the lower could have been changed, however there are difference with the upper as well. On the HK416 the receiver rail steps up away from the receiver about an inch ahead of the charging handle (I believe to give it extra room for the piston design), however this rifle doesn't do this, instead being the normal AR-15 shape. Related to this, you can also see that the barrel is located vertically in the middle of the handguard, whereas on an HK416 it is below the centre line (still in line with the middle of the side rail, but the top rail is set higher away from the barrel than the bottom). Lastly, the handguard is a Samson STAR-MX, which doesn't fit on an HK416. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:01, 19 July 2015 (EDT)
	:::I noticed this too, Maybe we should change it to "Custom AR15"?--[[User:BlackHawk510\|BlackHawk510]] ([[User talk:BlackHawk510\|talk]]) 11:54, 21 March 2016 (EDT)		:::I noticed this too, Maybe we should change it to "Custom AR15"?--[[User:BlackHawk510\|BlackHawk510]] ([[User talk:BlackHawk510\|talk]]) 11:54, 21 March 2016 (EDT)

			== Not a Para-Ordnance P18 ==

			The pistol currently identified as a Para-Ordnance P18 does not appear to be a P18 based on the current screenshots. Based on said screenshots, it appears to be a genuine Colt Series 70 or Series 80 1911 based on the rollmarks visible on the slide in two of the screenshots, as well as the clearly single-stack frame (which lacks the bulges of the Para-Ordnance's double-stack frame).
			[[Image:Para Ordinance P-18 9mm.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Para-Ordnance P-18 - 9x19mm]]
			[[Image:Colt45-001.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|The 1911 currently identified as a P18. Note the single-stack frame.]]
			[[Image:Colt45-003.jpg\|none\|thumb\|600px\|The opposite side of the gun, which shows Colt Series 70 or Series 80 rollmarks along the slide. The rampant Colt pony is visible upon closer inspection.]]

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	:Looks like the HK416 to me. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 22:06, 19 July 2015 (GMT)		:Looks like the HK416 to me. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 22:06, 19 July 2015 (GMT)
	::I think it is the same rifle as the one that is currently labelled as an HK416. However, that rifle is absolutely 100% not an HK416. Firstly, if you look at the selector markings they are normal plain text ones as opposed to the H&K pictograms that are painted in. Granted, this is not necessarily deffinitive as the lower could have been changed, however there are difference with the upper as well. On the HK416 the receiver rail steps up away from the receiver about an inch ahead of the charging handle (I believe to give it extra room for the piston design), however this rifle doesn't do this, instead being the normal AR-15 shape. Related to this, you can also see that the barrel is located vertically in the middle of the handguard, whereas on an HK416 it is below the centre line (still in line with the middle of the side rail, but the top rail is set higher away from the barrel than the bottom). Lastly, the handguard is a Samson STAR-MX, which doesn't fit on an HK416. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:01, 19 July 2015 (EDT)		::I think it is the same rifle as the one that is currently labelled as an HK416. However, that rifle is absolutely 100% not an HK416. Firstly, if you look at the selector markings they are normal plain text ones as opposed to the H&K pictograms that are painted in. Granted, this is not necessarily deffinitive as the lower could have been changed, however there are difference with the upper as well. On the HK416 the receiver rail steps up away from the receiver about an inch ahead of the charging handle (I believe to give it extra room for the piston design), however this rifle doesn't do this, instead being the normal AR-15 shape. Related to this, you can also see that the barrel is located vertically in the middle of the handguard, whereas on an HK416 it is below the centre line (still in line with the middle of the side rail, but the top rail is set higher away from the barrel than the bottom). Lastly, the handguard is a Samson STAR-MX, which doesn't fit on an HK416. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:01, 19 July 2015 (EDT)
			:::I noticed this too, Maybe we should change it to "Custom AR15"?--[[User:BlackHawk510\|BlackHawk510]] ([[User talk:BlackHawk510\|talk]]) 11:54, 21 March 2016 (EDT)

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	:Looks like the HK416 to me. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 22:06, 19 July 2015 (GMT)		:Looks like the HK416 to me. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 22:06, 19 July 2015 (GMT)
			::I think it is the same rifle as the one that is currently labelled as an HK416. However, that rifle is absolutely 100% not an HK416. Firstly, if you look at the selector markings they are normal plain text ones as opposed to the H&K pictograms that are painted in. Granted, this is not necessarily deffinitive as the lower could have been changed, however there are difference with the upper as well. On the HK416 the receiver rail steps up away from the receiver about an inch ahead of the charging handle (I believe to give it extra room for the piston design), however this rifle doesn't do this, instead being the normal AR-15 shape. Related to this, you can also see that the barrel is located vertically in the middle of the handguard, whereas on an HK416 it is below the centre line (still in line with the middle of the side rail, but the top rail is set higher away from the barrel than the bottom). Lastly, the handguard is a Samson STAR-MX, which doesn't fit on an HK416. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:01, 19 July 2015 (EDT)

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			:Looks like the HK416 to me. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 22:06, 19 July 2015 (GMT)

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	:Top one looks like a [[Beretta ARX-160]] --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 00:18, 08 May 2015 (GMT) Thx!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:52, 9 May 2015 (EDT)		:Top one looks like a [[Beretta ARX-160]] --[[User:RedRobinAlpha\|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha\|talk]]) 00:18, 08 May 2015 (GMT) Thx!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:52, 9 May 2015 (EDT)
	::Bottom one isn't an assault rifle, it is a [[FN Minimi Para]]. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 10:20, 9 May 2015 (EDT)		::Bottom one isn't an assault rifle, it is a [[FN Minimi Para]]. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 10:20, 9 May 2015 (EDT)

			What weapons used during a firefight by these thugs?--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 02:08, 11 May 2015 (EDT)

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