Talk:Chato's Land - Revision history

Mzmadmike: concurred

2022-06-30T04:00:03Z

concurred

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			::Thanks for the assist. I loaded a screenshot to confirm, please feel free to replace with a better one (no time bar). Yes, that is certainly one of the possible models, or one of the 1970s folding .410s. Given the location, I think you're correct. You can even see how the furniture fits around the break, probably for armorer inspection and safety.[[User:Mzmadmike\|Mzmadmike]] ([[User talk:Mzmadmike\|talk]]) 00:00, 30 June 2022 (EDT)
	:::Man you're good, that second picture shows the stud, which is for opening the action and the hinge for the gun to fold is easily seen in the cut out wood where a fuller stock should be. I think they might all be the same set of props, one set with patchboxes and the other without, in some of those pictures I can see what looks like the same action release and a cut out in the stock. Plus it makes good sense that since they put forth the effort on those guns that they'd do the same with the rest. I'd say the Caplock Muskets are all mocked up Beretta Model 412 shotguns. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 08:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)		:::Man you're good, that second picture shows the stud, which is for opening the action and the hinge for the gun to fold is easily seen in the cut out wood where a fuller stock should be. I think they might all be the same set of props, one set with patchboxes and the other without, in some of those pictures I can see what looks like the same action release and a cut out in the stock. Plus it makes good sense that since they put forth the effort on those guns that they'd do the same with the rest. I'd say the Caplock Muskets are all mocked up Beretta Model 412 shotguns. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 08:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)
			::::Well, now I need one for my collection. :)[[User:Mzmadmike\|Mzmadmike]] ([[User talk:Mzmadmike\|talk]]) 00:00, 30 June 2022 (EDT)

Black Irish Paddy at 12:11, 28 June 2022

2022-06-28T12:11:16Z

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			:::Man you're good, that second picture shows the stud, which is for opening the action and the hinge for the gun to fold is easily seen in the cut out wood where a fuller stock should be. I think they might all be the same set of props, one set with patchboxes and the other without, in some of those pictures I can see what looks like the same action release and a cut out in the stock. Plus it makes good sense that since they put forth the effort on those guns that they'd do the same with the rest. I'd say the Caplock Muskets are all mocked up Beretta Model 412 shotguns. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 08:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)

Greg-Z at 10:58, 28 June 2022

2022-06-28T10:58:06Z

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	At 1:31:40 there's a closeup of the underside of one of the "muzzleloaders." It looks like one of the late 1960s Spanish break action single shot .410s with a wooden shell and fake hammer. This would explain the hammers not moving, and the little stud in front of the trigger guard, clearly visible in this scene as a breech release.[[User:Mzmadmike\|Mzmadmike]] ([[User talk:Mzmadmike\|talk]]) 01:35, 28 June 2022 (EDT)		At 1:31:40 there's a closeup of the underside of one of the "muzzleloaders." It looks like one of the late 1960s Spanish break action single shot .410s with a wooden shell and fake hammer. This would explain the hammers not moving, and the little stud in front of the trigger guard, clearly visible in this scene as a breech release.[[User:Mzmadmike\|Mzmadmike]] ([[User talk:Mzmadmike\|talk]]) 01:35, 28 June 2022 (EDT)
			:Thanks a lot, this is interesting and sheds light on the "strange behavior" of these guns. I will try to watch the movie again and add a screenshot of this moment. Do you think these visually modified shotguns could be a Beretta 412? This model has already been seen in Spanish films.--[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 06:58, 28 June 2022 (EDT)
			[[File:Beretta Model 412 28G.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|For comparison: Beretta Model 412 Folding Shotgun - 28 gauge]]
			[[File:Chatos Land-Musket-8.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
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2022-06-28T05:35:07Z

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At 1:31:40 there's a closeup of the underside of one of the "muzzleloaders." It looks like one of the late 1960s Spanish break action single shot .410s with a wooden shell and fake hammer. This would explain the hammers not moving, and the little stud in front of the trigger guard, clearly visible in this scene as a breech release.[[User:Mzmadmike|Mzmadmike]] ([[User talk:Mzmadmike|talk]]) 01:35, 28 June 2022 (EDT)

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			::Thanks for the assist. I loaded a screenshot to confirm, please feel free to replace with a better one (no time bar). Yes, that is certainly one of the possible models, or one of the 1970s folding .410s. Given the location, I think you're correct. You can even see how the furniture fits around the break, probably for armorer inspection and safety.[[User:Mzmadmike\|Mzmadmike]] ([[User talk:Mzmadmike\|talk]]) 00:00, 30 June 2022 (EDT)
	:::Man you're good, that second picture shows the stud, which is for opening the action and the hinge for the gun to fold is easily seen in the cut out wood where a fuller stock should be. I think they might all be the same set of props, one set with patchboxes and the other without, in some of those pictures I can see what looks like the same action release and a cut out in the stock. Plus it makes good sense that since they put forth the effort on those guns that they'd do the same with the rest. I'd say the Caplock Muskets are all mocked up Beretta Model 412 shotguns. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 08:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)		:::Man you're good, that second picture shows the stud, which is for opening the action and the hinge for the gun to fold is easily seen in the cut out wood where a fuller stock should be. I think they might all be the same set of props, one set with patchboxes and the other without, in some of those pictures I can see what looks like the same action release and a cut out in the stock. Plus it makes good sense that since they put forth the effort on those guns that they'd do the same with the rest. I'd say the Caplock Muskets are all mocked up Beretta Model 412 shotguns. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 08:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)
			::::Well, now I need one for my collection. :)[[User:Mzmadmike\|Mzmadmike]] ([[User talk:Mzmadmike\|talk]]) 00:00, 30 June 2022 (EDT)

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			:::Man you're good, that second picture shows the stud, which is for opening the action and the hinge for the gun to fold is easily seen in the cut out wood where a fuller stock should be. I think they might all be the same set of props, one set with patchboxes and the other without, in some of those pictures I can see what looks like the same action release and a cut out in the stock. Plus it makes good sense that since they put forth the effort on those guns that they'd do the same with the rest. I'd say the Caplock Muskets are all mocked up Beretta Model 412 shotguns. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 08:11, 28 June 2022 (EDT)