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Jcordell: /* Colt Python Nitpick */

2022-11-08T21:56:55Z

Colt Python Nitpick

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	Here you go. http://www.imfdb.org/forum/showthread.php?t=634 I posted the article on the forum. Enjoy. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 16:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC)		Here you go. http://www.imfdb.org/forum/showthread.php?t=634 I posted the article on the forum. Enjoy. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 16:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

			:Ok so here is a follow-up some thirteen years later. In 2018 the last fifty some NYPD officers (out of 30,000 +) still carrying revolvers were ordered to switch over to semi-auto pistols. They were able to choose between the SIG-Sauer P226 and GLOCK 19. The New York Times did a big article on the last of the wheel-gunners. Several of the officers didn't really see the need to switch over, but administration felt otherwise. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell\|talk]]) 21:56, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

	== Matsumoto's pistol ==		== Matsumoto's pistol ==

Death by Chains: /* Matsumoto's pistol */

2020-08-17T15:25:01Z

Matsumoto's pistol

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	It looks like a 1911 variant, rather small and slim though, could be a colt mustang.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever\|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever\|talk]]) 00:51, 8 March 2016 (EST)		It looks like a 1911 variant, rather small and slim though, could be a colt mustang.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever\|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever\|talk]]) 00:51, 8 March 2016 (EST)

			To my eye, it's too tall and too long in the slide to be a Colt Mustang, especially in the forward half where the slide 'undercut' is longer than on the Mustang. I'm almost tempted to suggest it's a Colt M1903/M1908 Hammerless, or some derivative thereof.--[[User:Death by Chains\|Death by Chains]] 03:24, 18 August 2020 (NZST)

Death by Chains: /* Ithaca 37 shotgun */

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Ithaca 37 shotgun

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	The shotgun is a Stevens model 67 (series E). The model on the site here has a different foregrip on it and is not a very good shot of the gun. I can't find a decent picture of one otherwise except on gunbroker. However, I own one that looks just like the one in the film except not cut down, so I will add a good photo soon. -J3		The shotgun is a Stevens model 67 (series E). The model on the site here has a different foregrip on it and is not a very good shot of the gun. I can't find a decent picture of one otherwise except on gunbroker. However, I own one that looks just like the one in the film except not cut down, so I will add a good photo soon. -J3

			I've inserted an image of Conklin's ammo-count just before the final battle, highlighting all six shells to point out the continuity issue. (Maybe the Foley work is erroneous, and his fourth shell was a misfire?) FYI, the image is capped from the copy of the movie I bought through Youtube. - [[User:Death by Chains\|Death by Chains]], 16:45, 17 August 2020, NZST.

	== Colt Python Nitpick ==		== Colt Python Nitpick ==

1911isthebestgunever: /* Matsumoto's pistol */

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Matsumoto's pistol

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	He only uses it once, but from the single screenshot, it doesn't look like a P7. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|funkychinaman]] 04:58, 8 December 2010 (UTC)		He only uses it once, but from the single screenshot, it doesn't look like a P7. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|funkychinaman]] 04:58, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

			It looks like a 1911 variant, rather small and slim though, could be a colt mustang.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever\|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever\|talk]]) 00:51, 8 March 2016 (EST)

Funkychinaman: /* Matsumoto's pistol */ new section

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Matsumoto's pistol: new section

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	Here you go. http://www.imfdb.org/forum/showthread.php?t=634 I posted the article on the forum. Enjoy. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 16:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC)		Here you go. http://www.imfdb.org/forum/showthread.php?t=634 I posted the article on the forum. Enjoy. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 16:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

			== Matsumoto's pistol ==

			He only uses it once, but from the single screenshot, it doesn't look like a P7. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|funkychinaman]] 04:58, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

98.27.243.188: /* Ithaca 37 shotgun */

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Ithaca 37 shotgun

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	''I am not sure what this is but it is '''NOT''' an Ithaca 37 given the fact that the ejection port is clearly visible on the weapon's right hand side whereas the Ithaca ejects from the bottom.'' [[User:Charon68\|Charon68]]		''I am not sure what this is but it is '''NOT''' an Ithaca 37 given the fact that the ejection port is clearly visible on the weapon's right hand side whereas the Ithaca ejects from the bottom.'' [[User:Charon68\|Charon68]]

	The shotgun is a Stevens model 67 (series E). I can't find a decent picture of one,~~, but~~ I own one that looks just like the one in the film, so I will add a photo soon. -J3		The shotgun is a Stevens model 67 (series E). The model on the site here has a different foregrip on it and is not a very good shot of the gun. I can't find a decent picture of one otherwise except on gunbroker. However, I own one that looks just like the one in the film except not cut down, so I will add a good photo soon. -J3

	== Colt Python Nitpick ==		== Colt Python Nitpick ==

98.27.243.188: /* Ithaca 37 shotgun */

2010-06-08T17:09:27Z

Ithaca 37 shotgun

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	''I am not sure what this is but it is '''NOT''' an Ithaca 37 given the fact that the ejection port is clearly visible on the weapon's right hand side whereas the Ithaca ejects from the bottom.'' [[User:Charon68\|Charon68]]		''I am not sure what this is but it is '''NOT''' an Ithaca 37 given the fact that the ejection port is clearly visible on the weapon's right hand side whereas the Ithaca ejects from the bottom.'' [[User:Charon68\|Charon68]]

			The shotgun is a Stevens model 67 (series E). I can't find a decent picture of one,, but I own one that looks just like the one in the film, so I will add a photo soon. -J3

	== Colt Python Nitpick ==		== Colt Python Nitpick ==

Jcordell: /* Colt Python Nitpick */

2009-10-21T16:26:54Z

Colt Python Nitpick

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	Though the N.Y.P.D. transitioned to 9mm semi-autos in 1993 older officers who wished to stay with their revolvers were grandfathered in. There are still a couple thousand officers on the department carrying revolvers, but their numbers are shrinking every year. I have an article from the New York Times that was printed a few years ago about hese older officers. If you're curious send me a message on my page and I'll e-mail it to you. Or you can go to the forum and look up the thread where I posted the article.		Though the N.Y.P.D. transitioned to 9mm semi-autos in 1993 older officers who wished to stay with their revolvers were grandfathered in. There are still a couple thousand officers on the department carrying revolvers, but their numbers are shrinking every year. I have an article from the New York Times that was printed a few years ago about hese older officers. If you're curious send me a message on my page and I'll e-mail it to you. Or you can go to the forum and look up the thread where I posted the article.


	But I understand why the movie had them carrying .357 magnum snubbies. They look better on film. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 19:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)		But I understand why the movie had them carrying .357 magnum snubbies. They look better on film. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 19:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

	:That's pretty cool that you found all this out. Can I have the URL for the article? -[[User:Gunman69\|Gunman69]] 02:15, 21 October 2009 (UTC)		:That's pretty cool that you found all this out. Can I have the URL for the article? -[[User:Gunman69\|Gunman69]] 02:15, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

			Here you go. http://www.imfdb.org/forum/showthread.php?t=634 I posted the article on the forum. Enjoy. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 16:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Gunman69 at 02:15, 21 October 2009

2009-10-21T02:15:42Z

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	But I understand why the movie had them carrying .357 magnum snubbies. They look better on film. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 19:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)		But I understand why the movie had them carrying .357 magnum snubbies. They look better on film. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 19:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

			:That's pretty cool that you found all this out. Can I have the URL for the article? -[[User:Gunman69\|Gunman69]] 02:15, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Jcordell: /* Colt Python Nitpick */

2009-10-20T19:46:36Z

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	In the 3rd Edition of the ''Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson'' (Gun Digest Books; 2006) by Jim Supica and Richard Nahas there is an article about the NYPD Model 64's and 60's by R.M. Vivas. The Model 64 Square Butt 4" was the most common followed by the 4" Round Butt, 3" RB, 2" RB and 3" RB. They were authorized for carry from 1987 - 1993. The Model 60 was authorized for carry from 1987 - 1988. There were issues with that production run so in 1989 S&W offered to replace the Model 60's with a 2" Model 64 RB and a $25.00 gift certificate.		In the 3rd Edition of the ''Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson'' (Gun Digest Books; 2006) by Jim Supica and Richard Nahas there is an article about the NYPD Model 64's and 60's by R.M. Vivas. The Model 64 Square Butt 4" was the most common followed by the 4" Round Butt, 3" RB, 2" RB and 3" RB. They were authorized for carry from 1987 - 1993. The Model 60 was authorized for carry from 1987 - 1988. There were issues with that production run so in 1989 S&W offered to replace the Model 60's with a 2" Model 64 RB and a $25.00 gift certificate.

	Though the N.Y.P.D. transitioned to 9mm semi-autos in 1993 older officers who wished to stay with their revolvers were grandfathered in. There are still a couple thousand officers on the department carrying revolvers, but their numbers are shrinking every year. I have an article from the New York Times that was printed a few years ago about hese older officers. If you're curious send me a message on my page and I'll e-mail it to you.		Though the N.Y.P.D. transitioned to 9mm semi-autos in 1993 older officers who wished to stay with their revolvers were grandfathered in. There are still a couple thousand officers on the department carrying revolvers, but their numbers are shrinking every year. I have an article from the New York Times that was printed a few years ago about hese older officers. If you're curious send me a message on my page and I'll e-mail it to you. Or you can go to the forum and look up the thread where I posted the article.


	But I understand why the movie had them carrying .357 magnum snubbies. They look better on film. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 19:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)		But I understand why the movie had them carrying .357 magnum snubbies. They look better on film. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 19:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)