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Clonehunter: /* Colt 1903 */ new section

2020-01-06T00:33:33Z

Colt 1903: new section

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	It's kinda hard to tell if the rifle is an Enfield really. It could be any bolt action rifle with an exposed magazine. Especially since it's drawn with grooves and the bolt looks like one from a 1903 Springfield. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 17:04, 9 September 2016 (EDT)		It's kinda hard to tell if the rifle is an Enfield really. It could be any bolt action rifle with an exposed magazine. Especially since it's drawn with grooves and the bolt looks like one from a 1903 Springfield. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 17:04, 9 September 2016 (EDT)
	:From the metal band between the two halves of the stock it definitely looks like a Lee of some sort. However I do not think that it is an Enfield, there are no charger guides, the tail of the bolt is wrong and it has that oval finger cut out below the magazine cut off. I think that it is actually a Lee Metford:[[File:Lee Metford.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|Lee Metford Mk I(Nepalese Contract) - .303 British]][[File:Black Butler Lee Enfield MLE.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|]]I think the uploader (who did nothing with the images after uploading them) agrees that it isn't an SMLE as the image name ID's it as an MLE. It isn't an MLE though, as that doesn't have the finger cut below the cut off, and the rear of the bolt is different. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:18, 9 September 2016 (EDT)		:From the metal band between the two halves of the stock it definitely looks like a Lee of some sort. However I do not think that it is an Enfield, there are no charger guides, the tail of the bolt is wrong and it has that oval finger cut out below the magazine cut off. I think that it is actually a Lee Metford:[[File:Lee Metford.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|Lee Metford Mk I(Nepalese Contract) - .303 British]][[File:Black Butler Lee Enfield MLE.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|]]I think the uploader (who did nothing with the images after uploading them) agrees that it isn't an SMLE as the image name ID's it as an MLE. It isn't an MLE though, as that doesn't have the finger cut below the cut off, and the rear of the bolt is different. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:18, 9 September 2016 (EDT)

			== Colt 1903 ==

			Alright, so, while I left the ID as is, I still wanted to say that I'm pretty sure it's something else, probably more in line with a [https://www.threegunnuts.com/product-images/796/P796_0.jpg Bernadelli vest pocket], or some other kind of vest pocket pistol that's simply been drawn larger. The hard edges on the slide are visible in both episodes, and the barrel in the second appearance is consistently too short to be a 1903. There's also the circle emblem on the grips, and the pistol's lack of a "lip" or whatever you call that indentation on the tip of the slide/frame. The [https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-zq24lsaryh/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/5530/40777/D15505A_2131e458-567f-4344-8fca-fb0de9cda8fa__91599.1547001448.jpg?c=2 Dreyse Vest Pocket] also crossed my mind, although an ejection port is pretty obvious. It may also just be a really generically drawn pistol with inspiration from a handful of different models. --[[User:Clonehunter\|Clonehunter]] ([[User talk:Clonehunter\|talk]]) 19:33, 5 January 2020 (EST)

Commando552 at 22:37, 9 September 2016

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	It's kinda hard to tell if the rifle is an Enfield really. It could be any bolt action rifle with an exposed magazine. Especially since it's drawn with grooves and the bolt looks like one from a 1903 Springfield. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 17:04, 9 September 2016 (EDT)		It's kinda hard to tell if the rifle is an Enfield really. It could be any bolt action rifle with an exposed magazine. Especially since it's drawn with grooves and the bolt looks like one from a 1903 Springfield. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 17:04, 9 September 2016 (EDT)
	:From the metal band between the two halves of the stock it definitely looks like a Lee of some sort. However I do not think that it is an Enfield, there are no charger guides, the tail of the bolt is wrong and it has that oval finger cut out below the magazine cut off. I think that it is actually a Lee Metford:[[File:Lee Metford.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|Lee Metford (Nepalese Contract) - .303 British]][[File:Black Butler Lee Enfield MLE.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|]]I think the uploader (who did nothing with the images after uploading them) agrees that it isn't an SMLE as the image name ID's it as an MLE. It isn't an MLE though, as that doesn't have the finger cut below the cut off, and the rear of the bolt is different. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:18, 9 September 2016 (EDT)		:From the metal band between the two halves of the stock it definitely looks like a Lee of some sort. However I do not think that it is an Enfield, there are no charger guides, the tail of the bolt is wrong and it has that oval finger cut out below the magazine cut off. I think that it is actually a Lee Metford:[[File:Lee Metford.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|Lee Metford Mk I(Nepalese Contract) - .303 British]][[File:Black Butler Lee Enfield MLE.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|]]I think the uploader (who did nothing with the images after uploading them) agrees that it isn't an SMLE as the image name ID's it as an MLE. It isn't an MLE though, as that doesn't have the finger cut below the cut off, and the rear of the bolt is different. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:18, 9 September 2016 (EDT)

Commando552 at 22:18, 9 September 2016

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	It's kinda hard to tell if the rifle is an Enfield really. It could be any bolt action rifle with an exposed magazine. Especially since it's drawn with grooves and the bolt looks like one from a 1903 Springfield. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 17:04, 9 September 2016 (EDT)		It's kinda hard to tell if the rifle is an Enfield really. It could be any bolt action rifle with an exposed magazine. Especially since it's drawn with grooves and the bolt looks like one from a 1903 Springfield. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 17:04, 9 September 2016 (EDT)
			:From the metal band between the two halves of the stock it definitely looks like a Lee of some sort. However I do not think that it is an Enfield, there are no charger guides, the tail of the bolt is wrong and it has that oval finger cut out below the magazine cut off. I think that it is actually a Lee Metford:[[File:Lee Metford.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|Lee Metford (Nepalese Contract) - .303 British]][[File:Black Butler Lee Enfield MLE.jpg\|thumb\|500px\|none\|]]I think the uploader (who did nothing with the images after uploading them) agrees that it isn't an SMLE as the image name ID's it as an MLE. It isn't an MLE though, as that doesn't have the finger cut below the cut off, and the rear of the bolt is different. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 18:18, 9 September 2016 (EDT)

Excalibur01: /* Fn Model 1900? */

2016-09-09T21:06:12Z

Fn Model 1900?

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	:It is pretty badly drawn, but I would say that it is 100% intended to be an FN Model 1900. It has the raised rear sight block, the cocking lugs on the slide, the two screws to hold in the breech block, the correct profiling of the slide with the indent between the barrel and recoil spring, the ejection port is in the right place and is the correct design (square front with quarter round back, and not covered like a Langenhan), and the raised side plate on the frame itself is the right shape although it looks wrong due to the fact that the frame doesn't scallop up at the front of the trigger guard and the slide and frame are merged together (with the front of the slide being oversized) due to lack of detail in the drawing. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 16:27, 9 September 2016 (EDT)		:It is pretty badly drawn, but I would say that it is 100% intended to be an FN Model 1900. It has the raised rear sight block, the cocking lugs on the slide, the two screws to hold in the breech block, the correct profiling of the slide with the indent between the barrel and recoil spring, the ejection port is in the right place and is the correct design (square front with quarter round back, and not covered like a Langenhan), and the raised side plate on the frame itself is the right shape although it looks wrong due to the fact that the frame doesn't scallop up at the front of the trigger guard and the slide and frame are merged together (with the front of the slide being oversized) due to lack of detail in the drawing. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 16:27, 9 September 2016 (EDT)

	It's kinda hard to tell if the rifle is an Enfield really. It could be any bolt action rifle with an exposed magazine [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 17:04, 9 September 2016 (EDT)		It's kinda hard to tell if the rifle is an Enfield really. It could be any bolt action rifle with an exposed magazine. Especially since it's drawn with grooves and the bolt looks like one from a 1903 Springfield. [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 17:04, 9 September 2016 (EDT)

Excalibur01: /* Fn Model 1900? */

2016-09-09T21:04:16Z

Fn Model 1900?

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	:It is pretty badly drawn, but I would say that it is 100% intended to be an FN Model 1900. It has the raised rear sight block, the cocking lugs on the slide, the two screws to hold in the breech block, the correct profiling of the slide with the indent between the barrel and recoil spring, the ejection port is in the right place and is the correct design (square front with quarter round back, and not covered like a Langenhan), and the raised side plate on the frame itself is the right shape although it looks wrong due to the fact that the frame doesn't scallop up at the front of the trigger guard and the slide and frame are merged together (with the front of the slide being oversized) due to lack of detail in the drawing. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 16:27, 9 September 2016 (EDT)		:It is pretty badly drawn, but I would say that it is 100% intended to be an FN Model 1900. It has the raised rear sight block, the cocking lugs on the slide, the two screws to hold in the breech block, the correct profiling of the slide with the indent between the barrel and recoil spring, the ejection port is in the right place and is the correct design (square front with quarter round back, and not covered like a Langenhan), and the raised side plate on the frame itself is the right shape although it looks wrong due to the fact that the frame doesn't scallop up at the front of the trigger guard and the slide and frame are merged together (with the front of the slide being oversized) due to lack of detail in the drawing. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 16:27, 9 September 2016 (EDT)

			It's kinda hard to tell if the rifle is an Enfield really. It could be any bolt action rifle with an exposed magazine [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01\|talk]]) 17:04, 9 September 2016 (EDT)

Commando552 at 20:27, 9 September 2016

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	Ok, I may not know that much about firearms, but even I have to question the legitimacy of this. It honestly looks like a generic hand gun with parts of the Fn Model 1900 glued on.--[[User:SeanWolf\|SeanWolf]] ([[User talk:SeanWolf\|talk]]) 14:23, 9 September 2016 (EDT)		Ok, I may not know that much about firearms, but even I have to question the legitimacy of this. It honestly looks like a generic hand gun with parts of the Fn Model 1900 glued on.--[[User:SeanWolf\|SeanWolf]] ([[User talk:SeanWolf\|talk]]) 14:23, 9 September 2016 (EDT)
	[[Image:Black Butler FN Model1900.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]		[[Image:Black Butler FN Model1900.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]
			:It is pretty badly drawn, but I would say that it is 100% intended to be an FN Model 1900. It has the raised rear sight block, the cocking lugs on the slide, the two screws to hold in the breech block, the correct profiling of the slide with the indent between the barrel and recoil spring, the ejection port is in the right place and is the correct design (square front with quarter round back, and not covered like a Langenhan), and the raised side plate on the frame itself is the right shape although it looks wrong due to the fact that the frame doesn't scallop up at the front of the trigger guard and the slide and frame are merged together (with the front of the slide being oversized) due to lack of detail in the drawing. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 16:27, 9 September 2016 (EDT)

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2016-09-09T18:23:25Z

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== Fn Model 1900? ==
Ok, I may not know that much about firearms, but even I have to question the legitimacy of this. It honestly looks like a generic hand gun with parts of the Fn Model 1900 glued on.--[[User:SeanWolf|SeanWolf]] ([[User talk:SeanWolf|talk]]) 14:23, 9 September 2016 (EDT)
[[Image:Black Butler FN Model1900.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]