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The Cowboy General: /* Western */ new section

2020-07-30T00:07:29Z

Western: new section

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	These images show the receiver screw pattern of Model 1892. Also the two vertical locking bolts are visible. In other scenes I found similar receiver screw patterns or locking bolts for most of the rifles, but they didn't show up in screenshots. I'm changing all 1894s to 1892s on the assumption that the other rifles are 1892s.[[User:LJ\|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ\|talk]]) 16:44, 27 October 2019 (EDT)		These images show the receiver screw pattern of Model 1892. Also the two vertical locking bolts are visible. In other scenes I found similar receiver screw patterns or locking bolts for most of the rifles, but they didn't show up in screenshots. I'm changing all 1894s to 1892s on the assumption that the other rifles are 1892s.[[User:LJ\|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ\|talk]]) 16:44, 27 October 2019 (EDT)

			== Western ==

			I was wondering if this film could be added to the Western page? It's labeled as a Western on IMDB.[[User:The Cowboy General\|The Cowboy General]] ([[User talk:The Cowboy General\|talk]])

LJ: 1894 vs 1892

2019-10-27T20:44:21Z

1894 vs 1892

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	:::::Got it. Yes, the sights allow to choose a Winchester. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:06, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		:::::Got it. Yes, the sights allow to choose a Winchester. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:06, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
	::::::Many thanks for your assistance.[[User:LJ\|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ\|talk]]) 16:58, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		::::::Many thanks for your assistance.[[User:LJ\|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ\|talk]]) 16:58, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
			==Winchester Model 1894 vs 1892==
			I rechecked the Winchester lever action rifles and found these:
			[[Image:Billy Jack receiver.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Receiver of Billy Jack's rifle. The right locking bolt is visible.]]
			[[Image:Billy Jack henchman receiver.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Receiver of henchman's rifle.]]
			[[Image:Billy Jack unk receiver.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Receiver of unknown henchman's rifle (continuity error - the jacket is different from the henchmens' jackets in the other scenes).]]

			These images show the receiver screw pattern of Model 1892. Also the two vertical locking bolts are visible. In other scenes I found similar receiver screw patterns or locking bolts for most of the rifles, but they didn't show up in screenshots. I'm changing all 1894s to 1892s on the assumption that the other rifles are 1892s.[[User:LJ\|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ\|talk]]) 16:44, 27 October 2019 (EDT)

LJ: /* Unidentified rifle */

2019-10-25T20:58:32Z

Unidentified rifle

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	:::It was the sights I was thinking of and should have said so, the stock is absolutely a standard sporter stock but the sights look like a raised front and buckhorn rear like on that Model 70 but there's nothing preventing sights like that being mounted on a Remington 700. It does look closer to the 700 to my eyes, particularly that checkering on the pistol grip, it's just that the sights look like those on that one picture of the Winchester. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:52, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		:::It was the sights I was thinking of and should have said so, the stock is absolutely a standard sporter stock but the sights look like a raised front and buckhorn rear like on that Model 70 but there's nothing preventing sights like that being mounted on a Remington 700. It does look closer to the 700 to my eyes, particularly that checkering on the pistol grip, it's just that the sights look like those on that one picture of the Winchester. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:52, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
	:::::Got it. Yes, the sights allow to choose a Winchester. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:06, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		:::::Got it. Yes, the sights allow to choose a Winchester. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:06, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
			::::::Many thanks for your assistance.[[User:LJ\|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ\|talk]]) 16:58, 25 October 2019 (EDT)

Greg-Z: /* Unidentified rifle */

2019-10-25T20:06:56Z

Unidentified rifle

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	But I'm not sure, and maybe your guess is more correct. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:42, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		But I'm not sure, and maybe your guess is more correct. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:42, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
	:::It was the sights I was thinking of and should have said so, the stock is absolutely a standard sporter stock but the sights look like a raised front and buckhorn rear like on that Model 70 but there's nothing preventing sights like that being mounted on a Remington 700. It does look closer to the 700 to my eyes, particularly that checkering on the pistol grip, it's just that the sights look like those on that one picture of the Winchester. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:52, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		:::It was the sights I was thinking of and should have said so, the stock is absolutely a standard sporter stock but the sights look like a raised front and buckhorn rear like on that Model 70 but there's nothing preventing sights like that being mounted on a Remington 700. It does look closer to the 700 to my eyes, particularly that checkering on the pistol grip, it's just that the sights look like those on that one picture of the Winchester. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:52, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
			:::::Got it. Yes, the sights allow to choose a Winchester. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:06, 25 October 2019 (EDT)

Black Irish Paddy: /* Unidentified rifle */

2019-10-25T19:52:43Z

Unidentified rifle

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	[[Image:Remington Model 700BDL With Iron Sights.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[Image:Remington Model 700BDL With Iron Sights.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
	But I'm not sure, and maybe your guess is more correct. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:42, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		But I'm not sure, and maybe your guess is more correct. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:42, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
			:::It was the sights I was thinking of and should have said so, the stock is absolutely a standard sporter stock but the sights look like a raised front and buckhorn rear like on that Model 70 but there's nothing preventing sights like that being mounted on a Remington 700. It does look closer to the 700 to my eyes, particularly that checkering on the pistol grip, it's just that the sights look like those on that one picture of the Winchester. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:52, 25 October 2019 (EDT)

Greg-Z: /* Unidentified rifle */

2019-10-25T19:42:14Z

Unidentified rifle

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	I suppose that the unidentified sniper rifle is a [[Remington Model 700]] ([[Winchester Model 70]] is also possible but Remington seems to me a better guess). --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 14:12, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		I suppose that the unidentified sniper rifle is a [[Remington Model 700]] ([[Winchester Model 70]] is also possible but Remington seems to me a better guess). --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 14:12, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
	:Looks like this Model 70 doesn't it? [[File:Winchester7030-06tremors5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]] [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:28, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		:Looks like this Model 70 doesn't it? [[File:Winchester7030-06tremors5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]] [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:28, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
			::Remington 700 also looks very similar to the screen gun.
			[[Image:Remington Model 700BDL With Iron Sights.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			But I'm not sure, and maybe your guess is more correct. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:42, 25 October 2019 (EDT)

Black Irish Paddy: /* Unidentified rifle */

2019-10-25T19:28:59Z

Unidentified rifle

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	I suppose that the unidentified sniper rifle is a [[Remington Model 700]] ([[Winchester Model 70]] is also possible but Remington seems to me a better guess). --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 14:12, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		I suppose that the unidentified sniper rifle is a [[Remington Model 700]] ([[Winchester Model 70]] is also possible but Remington seems to me a better guess). --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 14:12, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
			:Looks like this Model 70 doesn't it? [[File:Winchester7030-06tremors5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]] [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:28, 25 October 2019 (EDT)

Greg-Z: /* Unidentified rifle */ new section

2019-10-25T18:12:00Z

Unidentified rifle: new section

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	No information has been found regarding a stainless steel or a nickel-plated L-5.[[User:LJ\|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ\|talk]]) 14:05, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		No information has been found regarding a stainless steel or a nickel-plated L-5.[[User:LJ\|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ\|talk]]) 14:05, 25 October 2019 (EDT)

			== Unidentified rifle ==

			I suppose that the unidentified sniper rifle is a [[Remington Model 700]] ([[Winchester Model 70]] is also possible but Remington seems to me a better guess). --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 14:12, 25 October 2019 (EDT)

LJ: Reference for zinc L-5

2019-10-25T18:05:36Z

Reference for zinc L-5

New page

==Zinc Federal L-5 Gas Riot Gun==

The only reference found to date is:
[http://www.machinegunboards.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12975/Zinc L-5]
"Early Model: Zinc barrel and receiver, only has 50-yard rear sight on breech opening latch"

No information has been found regarding a stainless steel or a nickel-plated L-5.[[User:LJ|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ|talk]]) 14:05, 25 October 2019 (EDT)

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	:::::Got it. Yes, the sights allow to choose a Winchester. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:06, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		:::::Got it. Yes, the sights allow to choose a Winchester. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:06, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
	::::::Many thanks for your assistance.[[User:LJ\|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ\|talk]]) 16:58, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		::::::Many thanks for your assistance.[[User:LJ\|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ\|talk]]) 16:58, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
			==Winchester Model 1894 vs 1892==
			I rechecked the Winchester lever action rifles and found these:
			[[Image:Billy Jack receiver.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Receiver of Billy Jack's rifle. The right locking bolt is visible.]]
			[[Image:Billy Jack henchman receiver.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Receiver of henchman's rifle.]]
			[[Image:Billy Jack unk receiver.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Receiver of unknown henchman's rifle (continuity error - the jacket is different from the henchmens' jackets in the other scenes).]]

			These images show the receiver screw pattern of Model 1892. Also the two vertical locking bolts are visible. In other scenes I found similar receiver screw patterns or locking bolts for most of the rifles, but they didn't show up in screenshots. I'm changing all 1894s to 1892s on the assumption that the other rifles are 1892s.[[User:LJ\|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ\|talk]]) 16:44, 27 October 2019 (EDT)

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	:::It was the sights I was thinking of and should have said so, the stock is absolutely a standard sporter stock but the sights look like a raised front and buckhorn rear like on that Model 70 but there's nothing preventing sights like that being mounted on a Remington 700. It does look closer to the 700 to my eyes, particularly that checkering on the pistol grip, it's just that the sights look like those on that one picture of the Winchester. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:52, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		:::It was the sights I was thinking of and should have said so, the stock is absolutely a standard sporter stock but the sights look like a raised front and buckhorn rear like on that Model 70 but there's nothing preventing sights like that being mounted on a Remington 700. It does look closer to the 700 to my eyes, particularly that checkering on the pistol grip, it's just that the sights look like those on that one picture of the Winchester. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:52, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
	:::::Got it. Yes, the sights allow to choose a Winchester. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:06, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		:::::Got it. Yes, the sights allow to choose a Winchester. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:06, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
			::::::Many thanks for your assistance.[[User:LJ\|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ\|talk]]) 16:58, 25 October 2019 (EDT)

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	But I'm not sure, and maybe your guess is more correct. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:42, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		But I'm not sure, and maybe your guess is more correct. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:42, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
	:::It was the sights I was thinking of and should have said so, the stock is absolutely a standard sporter stock but the sights look like a raised front and buckhorn rear like on that Model 70 but there's nothing preventing sights like that being mounted on a Remington 700. It does look closer to the 700 to my eyes, particularly that checkering on the pistol grip, it's just that the sights look like those on that one picture of the Winchester. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:52, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		:::It was the sights I was thinking of and should have said so, the stock is absolutely a standard sporter stock but the sights look like a raised front and buckhorn rear like on that Model 70 but there's nothing preventing sights like that being mounted on a Remington 700. It does look closer to the 700 to my eyes, particularly that checkering on the pistol grip, it's just that the sights look like those on that one picture of the Winchester. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:52, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
			:::::Got it. Yes, the sights allow to choose a Winchester. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 16:06, 25 October 2019 (EDT)

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	[[Image:Remington Model 700BDL With Iron Sights.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[Image:Remington Model 700BDL With Iron Sights.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
	But I'm not sure, and maybe your guess is more correct. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:42, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		But I'm not sure, and maybe your guess is more correct. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:42, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
			:::It was the sights I was thinking of and should have said so, the stock is absolutely a standard sporter stock but the sights look like a raised front and buckhorn rear like on that Model 70 but there's nothing preventing sights like that being mounted on a Remington 700. It does look closer to the 700 to my eyes, particularly that checkering on the pistol grip, it's just that the sights look like those on that one picture of the Winchester. [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:52, 25 October 2019 (EDT)

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	I suppose that the unidentified sniper rifle is a [[Remington Model 700]] ([[Winchester Model 70]] is also possible but Remington seems to me a better guess). --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 14:12, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		I suppose that the unidentified sniper rifle is a [[Remington Model 700]] ([[Winchester Model 70]] is also possible but Remington seems to me a better guess). --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 14:12, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
	:Looks like this Model 70 doesn't it? [[File:Winchester7030-06tremors5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]] [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:28, 25 October 2019 (EDT)		:Looks like this Model 70 doesn't it? [[File:Winchester7030-06tremors5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]] [[User:Black Irish Paddy\|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy\|talk]]) 15:28, 25 October 2019 (EDT)
			::Remington 700 also looks very similar to the screen gun.
			[[Image:Remington Model 700BDL With Iron Sights.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			But I'm not sure, and maybe your guess is more correct. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 15:42, 25 October 2019 (EDT)