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StanTheMan: /* Would a dog be able to pull the pin on a hand grenade? */

2020-11-19T03:44:33Z

Would a dog be able to pull the pin on a hand grenade?

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	==Would a dog be able to pull the pin on a hand grenade?==		==Would a dog be able to pull the pin on a hand grenade?==
	Ignoring the topic of teaching it to do so, would a dog, especially a small poodle, actually be able to pull the pin without hurting itself? IIRC, it takes about 5 lbs of force to pull the pin out and the image in movies of soldiers pulling the pins from hand grenades with their teeth is so prevalent that the military has to specifically tell trainees in basic that doing so will result in pretty severe dental damage. [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198\|talk]]) 09:23, 17 November 2020 (EST)		Ignoring the topic of teaching it to do so, would a dog, especially a small poodle, actually be able to pull the pin without hurting itself? IIRC, it takes about 5 lbs of force to pull the pin out and the image in movies of soldiers pulling the pins from hand grenades with their teeth is so prevalent that the military has to specifically tell trainees in basic that doing so will result in pretty severe dental damage. [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198\|talk]]) 09:23, 17 November 2020 (EST)
	: As I understand canines have generally stronger jaws than humans - one I owned actually took turns biting and yanking on a chain-link fence for a good couple minutes and while he didn't actually get through or anything, he was pulling pretty good and he didn't seem to be much worse for wear for it - At least I saw no visible injury, anyway. Granted I had a fairly good-sized dog (about 50 pounds - he was a mutt but mostly boxer) so I don't know so much about a smaller breed like a poodle. But I'd say it's hardly impossible. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 22:40, 17 November 2020 (EST)		: As I understand canines have generally stronger jaws than humans - one I owned once actually took turns biting and yanking on a chain-link fence for a good couple minutes and while he didn't actually get through or anything, he was pulling pretty good and he didn't seem to be much worse for wear for it - At least I saw no visible injury, anyway. Granted I had a fairly good-sized dog (about 50 pounds - he was a mutt but mostly boxer) so I don't know so much about a smaller breed like a poodle. But I'd say it's hardly impossible. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 22:40, 17 November 2020 (EST)

StanTheMan: /* Would a dog be able to pull the pin on a hand grenade? */

2020-11-18T03:41:24Z

Would a dog be able to pull the pin on a hand grenade?

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	==Would a dog be able to pull the pin on a hand grenade?==		==Would a dog be able to pull the pin on a hand grenade?==
	Ignoring the topic of teaching it to do so, would a dog, especially a small poodle, actually be able to pull the pin without hurting itself? IIRC, it takes about 5 lbs of force to pull the pin out and the image in movies of soldiers pulling the pins from hand grenades with their teeth is so prevalent that the military has to specifically tell trainees in basic that doing so will result in pretty severe dental damage. [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198\|talk]]) 09:23, 17 November 2020 (EST)		Ignoring the topic of teaching it to do so, would a dog, especially a small poodle, actually be able to pull the pin without hurting itself? IIRC, it takes about 5 lbs of force to pull the pin out and the image in movies of soldiers pulling the pins from hand grenades with their teeth is so prevalent that the military has to specifically tell trainees in basic that doing so will result in pretty severe dental damage. [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198\|talk]]) 09:23, 17 November 2020 (EST)
	: As I understand canines have generally stronger jaws than humans - one I owned actually took turns biting and yanking on a chain-link fence for a good couple minutes and while he didn't actually get through or anything, he was pulling pretty good and he didn't seem to be much worse for wear for it - At least I saw no visible injury, anyway. Granted I had a fairly good-sized dog (about 50 pounds - he was a mutt but mostly boxer) so I don't know so much about a smaller breed like a poodle. But I'd it's ~~far from~~ impossible. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 22:40, 17 November 2020 (EST)		: As I understand canines have generally stronger jaws than humans - one I owned actually took turns biting and yanking on a chain-link fence for a good couple minutes and while he didn't actually get through or anything, he was pulling pretty good and he didn't seem to be much worse for wear for it - At least I saw no visible injury, anyway. Granted I had a fairly good-sized dog (about 50 pounds - he was a mutt but mostly boxer) so I don't know so much about a smaller breed like a poodle. But I'd say it's hardly impossible. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 22:40, 17 November 2020 (EST)

StanTheMan: /* Would a dog be able to pull the pin on a hand grenade? */

2020-11-18T03:40:47Z

Would a dog be able to pull the pin on a hand grenade?

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	==Would a dog be able to pull the pin on a hand grenade?==		==Would a dog be able to pull the pin on a hand grenade?==
	Ignoring the topic of teaching it to do so, would a dog, especially a small poodle, actually be able to pull the pin without hurting itself? IIRC, it takes about 5 lbs of force to pull the pin out and the image in movies of soldiers pulling the pins from hand grenades with their teeth is so prevalent that the military has to specifically tell trainees in basic that doing so will result in pretty severe dental damage. [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198\|talk]]) 09:23, 17 November 2020 (EST)		Ignoring the topic of teaching it to do so, would a dog, especially a small poodle, actually be able to pull the pin without hurting itself? IIRC, it takes about 5 lbs of force to pull the pin out and the image in movies of soldiers pulling the pins from hand grenades with their teeth is so prevalent that the military has to specifically tell trainees in basic that doing so will result in pretty severe dental damage. [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198\|talk]]) 09:23, 17 November 2020 (EST)
			: As I understand canines have generally stronger jaws than humans - one I owned actually took turns biting and yanking on a chain-link fence for a good couple minutes and while he didn't actually get through or anything, he was pulling pretty good and he didn't seem to be much worse for wear for it - At least I saw no visible injury, anyway. Granted I had a fairly good-sized dog (about 50 pounds - he was a mutt but mostly boxer) so I don't know so much about a smaller breed like a poodle. But I'd it's far from impossible. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 22:40, 17 November 2020 (EST)

Spartan198 at 14:23, 17 November 2020

2020-11-17T14:23:29Z

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	[[Image:BatmanReturns-SWModel66-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Shreck picks up the revolver. Note ejector rod shroud.]]		[[Image:BatmanReturns-SWModel66-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Shreck picks up the revolver. Note ejector rod shroud.]]
	[[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 19:00, 17 December 2014 (EST)		[[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 19:00, 17 December 2014 (EST)

			==Would a dog be able to pull the pin on a hand grenade?==
			Ignoring the topic of teaching it to do so, would a dog, especially a small poodle, actually be able to pull the pin without hurting itself? IIRC, it takes about 5 lbs of force to pull the pin out and the image in movies of soldiers pulling the pins from hand grenades with their teeth is so prevalent that the military has to specifically tell trainees in basic that doing so will result in pretty severe dental damage. [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198\|talk]]) 09:23, 17 November 2020 (EST)

StanTheMan: /* Walken/Shreck's Model 15 */

2014-12-18T00:00:43Z

Walken/Shreck's Model 15

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	[[Image:BatmanReturns-SWModel66-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|The revolver lays on the ground. Note the rather silver-gray stainless finish.]]		[[Image:BatmanReturns-SWModel66-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|The revolver lays on the ground. Note the rather silver-gray stainless finish.]]
	[[Image:BatmanReturns-SWModel66-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Shreck picks up the revolver. Note ejector rod shroud.]]		[[Image:BatmanReturns-SWModel66-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Shreck picks up the revolver. Note ejector rod shroud.]]
			[[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 19:00, 17 December 2014 (EST)

StanTheMan at 00:00, 18 December 2014

2014-12-18T00:00:14Z

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	==Walken/Shreck's Model 15==		==Walken/Shreck's Model 15==
	I rewatched Returns the other day and I think his is actually a stainless revolver, you can tell it better when he first retrieves it from the water and in other shots. In addition the revolver looks to have a shrouded ejector rod socket and slightly longer cylinder making me think it's actually a [[Smith & Wesson Model 66]]. I'll see about posting a couple caps up to help show this. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 22:18, 15 December 2014 (EST)		I rewatched Returns the other day and I think his is actually a stainless revolver, you can tell it better when he first retrieves it from the water and in other shots. In addition the revolver looks to have a shrouded ejector rod socket and slightly longer cylinder making me think it's actually a [[Smith & Wesson Model 66]]. I'll see about posting a couple caps up to help show this. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 22:18, 15 December 2014 (EST)

			Here we go -
			[[Image:BatmanReturns-SWModel66-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|The revolver lays on the ground. Note the rather silver-gray stainless finish.]]
			[[Image:BatmanReturns-SWModel66-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Shreck picks up the revolver. Note ejector rod shroud.]]

StanTheMan: /* Walken/Shreck's Model 15 */

2014-12-16T03:37:57Z

Walken/Shreck's Model 15

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	==Walken/Shreck's Model 15==		==Walken/Shreck's Model 15==
	I rewatched Returns the other day and I think his is actually a stainless revolver, you can tell it better when he first retrieves it from the water. In addition the revolver looks to have a shrouded ejector rod socket and slightly longer cylinder making me think it's actually a [[Smith & Wesson Model 66]]. I'll see about posting a couple caps up to help show this. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 22:18, 15 December 2014 (EST)		I rewatched Returns the other day and I think his is actually a stainless revolver, you can tell it better when he first retrieves it from the water and in other shots. In addition the revolver looks to have a shrouded ejector rod socket and slightly longer cylinder making me think it's actually a [[Smith & Wesson Model 66]]. I'll see about posting a couple caps up to help show this. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 22:18, 15 December 2014 (EST)

StanTheMan: /* Walken/Shreck's Model 15 */

2014-12-16T03:22:09Z

Walken/Shreck's Model 15

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	==Walken/Shreck's Model 15==		==Walken/Shreck's Model 15==
	I rewatched Returns the other day and I think his is actually a stainless revolver, you can tell it better when he first retrieves it from the water. In addition the revolver looks to have an shrouded ejector rod socket and slightly longer cylinder ~~makign~~ me think it's actually a [[Smith & Wesson Model 66]]. I'll see about posting a couple caps up to show ~~all~~ this. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 22:18, 15 December 2014 (EST)		I rewatched Returns the other day and I think his is actually a stainless revolver, you can tell it better when he first retrieves it from the water. In addition the revolver looks to have a shrouded ejector rod socket and slightly longer cylinder making me think it's actually a [[Smith & Wesson Model 66]]. I'll see about posting a couple caps up to help show this. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 22:18, 15 December 2014 (EST)

StanTheMan at 03:18, 16 December 2014

2014-12-16T03:18:58Z

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	:It's just an acetylene-firing prop or something, it's obviously not a real gun.--[[User:Leigh Burne\|Leigh Burne]] ([[User talk:Leigh Burne\|talk]]) 15:52, 30 June 2013 (EDT)		:It's just an acetylene-firing prop or something, it's obviously not a real gun.--[[User:Leigh Burne\|Leigh Burne]] ([[User talk:Leigh Burne\|talk]]) 15:52, 30 June 2013 (EDT)

			==Walken/Shreck's Model 15==
			I rewatched Returns the other day and I think his is actually a stainless revolver, you can tell it better when he first retrieves it from the water. In addition the revolver looks to have an shrouded ejector rod socket and slightly longer cylinder makign me think it's actually a [[Smith & Wesson Model 66]]. I'll see about posting a couple caps up to show all this. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 22:18, 15 December 2014 (EST)

Leigh Burne: /* Umbrella SMG details */

2013-06-30T19:52:11Z

Umbrella SMG details

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	[[Image:BR025.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|The muzzle flash of the machine gun umbrella is blue instead of the typical orange.]]		[[Image:BR025.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|The muzzle flash of the machine gun umbrella is blue instead of the typical orange.]]
	[[Image:PegUmbrGun6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|The inside of the machine gun umbrella. Note that it dosen't show or have a 9mm round magazine (judging by the diameter of the muzzle) and a possible trigger.]]--[[User:Gunnerboy\|Gunnerboy]] ([[User talk:Gunnerboy\|talk]]) 15:19, 30 June 2013 (EDT)		[[Image:PegUmbrGun6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|The inside of the machine gun umbrella. Note that it dosen't show or have a 9mm round magazine (judging by the diameter of the muzzle) and a possible trigger.]]--[[User:Gunnerboy\|Gunnerboy]] ([[User talk:Gunnerboy\|talk]]) 15:19, 30 June 2013 (EDT)

			:It's just an acetylene-firing prop or something, it's obviously not a real gun.--[[User:Leigh Burne\|Leigh Burne]] ([[User talk:Leigh Burne\|talk]]) 15:52, 30 June 2013 (EDT)

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	[[Image:BatmanReturns-SWModel66-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|The revolver lays on the ground. Note the rather silver-gray stainless finish.]]		[[Image:BatmanReturns-SWModel66-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|The revolver lays on the ground. Note the rather silver-gray stainless finish.]]
	[[Image:BatmanReturns-SWModel66-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Shreck picks up the revolver. Note ejector rod shroud.]]		[[Image:BatmanReturns-SWModel66-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Shreck picks up the revolver. Note ejector rod shroud.]]
			[[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 19:00, 17 December 2014 (EST)

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	[[Image:BR025.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|The muzzle flash of the machine gun umbrella is blue instead of the typical orange.]]		[[Image:BR025.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|The muzzle flash of the machine gun umbrella is blue instead of the typical orange.]]
	[[Image:PegUmbrGun6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|The inside of the machine gun umbrella. Note that it dosen't show or have a 9mm round magazine (judging by the diameter of the muzzle) and a possible trigger.]]--[[User:Gunnerboy\|Gunnerboy]] ([[User talk:Gunnerboy\|talk]]) 15:19, 30 June 2013 (EDT)		[[Image:PegUmbrGun6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|The inside of the machine gun umbrella. Note that it dosen't show or have a 9mm round magazine (judging by the diameter of the muzzle) and a possible trigger.]]--[[User:Gunnerboy\|Gunnerboy]] ([[User talk:Gunnerboy\|talk]]) 15:19, 30 June 2013 (EDT)

			:It's just an acetylene-firing prop or something, it's obviously not a real gun.--[[User:Leigh Burne\|Leigh Burne]] ([[User talk:Leigh Burne\|talk]]) 15:52, 30 June 2013 (EDT)