Talk:24 - Revision history

Funkychinaman: No need to delete discussions

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No need to delete discussions

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 Well lets all hope she dies or gets arrested at end, and I just hope that they do not copy her character from Nina Myers.
 == Series Finale ==

Btgr: /* Kiefer Sutherland */

2013-03-12T09:56:02Z

Kiefer Sutherland

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	~~After 24 do you think Kiefer Sutherland should do more voice acting?~~

	== 24 of 24? ==		== 24 of 24? ==

Btgr: /* Assault Rifles */

2013-03-12T09:55:45Z

Assault Rifles

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	Well lets all hope she dies or gets arrested at end, and I just hope that they do not copy her character from Nina Myers.		Well lets all hope she dies or gets arrested at end, and I just hope that they do not copy her character from Nina Myers.

	~~== Assault Rifles ==~~
	~~Has anyone noticed that the terrorists are starting to use H&K G36Cs more than Ak47s?~~

	:What's your point these terrorist's are well financed and have better training than average insurgent's in Afghanistan. I've definitely noticed it, the first time I saw a G36C in this show was in Season 5 Episode 9 and a G36K in the back of a CTU SUV in Season 2. You may be able to ship 20 terrorists to this country but not get a stash of AK47 crates through customs (not that it's ever been done). In a real life scenario your enemies preferred weapon of choice would be america's most popular assault rifle, the AR-15. Think about what assault rifle you would pick if you were supplying blank converted assault rifles to this show. -[[User:HKFan\|HKFan]] 10:23, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

	I just want to point things out and I obviously know the Taliban and Al Qadea aren't as well financed compared to the IRA or Colombian FARC. Also I will think about what assault rifles to pick and use against the enemies.

	::The IRA isn't better financed than the Taliban or Al Qaeda. After the FBI started cracking down on its supporters in the U.S., and after MI-6 and Interpol shut down its connections to Libya, it was pretty much all over for them. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]]

	Then how come back then American weapons are easily for them to obtain and smuggled compared to the Taliban or Al Qaeda? American weapons aren't cheap you know. Also I've never seen any Taliban or Al Qaeda in real life who are armed with American weapons.

	:::They used AR-15s and AR-18s because their supporters in the U.S. bought those for them at U.S. gun stores and smuggled them to Ireland by boat. For much of its history, buying guns in the U.S. had always been the way the IRA procured arms. And if you read books like Ed Moloney's "A Secret History of the IRA", you'll find that this was ''not'' an efficient way to buy/receive weapons - the IRA was almost always short on small arms in the 1970s (there were never enough guns to go around), even though it spent a sizeable amount of its budget on weaponry. The FBI cracked down on the IRA's supporters in the U.S. beginning in the early-80s, and afterwards, the Provos were almost never able to buy guns in the U.S. again. The Libyan regime (and reportedly, the PLO and East Germany as well) became the IRA's new source of arms in the 1980s.

	:::As for the Taliban, why would they need American weapons? Afghanistan and Pakistan are flooded with AKs and RPGs (mostly Chinese-made) that were shipped into the region by the CIA during the 1980s. And it isn't as though the quality of small arms determines the outcome in guerrilla war, let alone how effective or well-funded a particular group happens to be. Although Hezbollah does have enormous quantities of M16s and M4s (which they've been seen brandishing in photos). -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 02:18, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

	One more question does the Taliban uses other weapons in general besides the ones we keep seeing in their videoes? I always see TT33s, Makorov PMs, Ak47s and its variants, Dragunov sniper rifles, RPDs, RPKs, Pk machine guns and RPGs in their videoes, but could there possibly be others?

	:::I really don't know. It's possible that they use weapons captured from U.S. or Afghan forces sometimes, though it wouldn't make much sense because ammo would be harder to acquire in the region for NATO weapons than Eastern Bloc/Chinese weapons. Either way, the one thing I know is that you're emphasizing weaponry too much. The types of small arms used by a particular terrorist/insurgent group are not an accurate reflection of its funding, or its capabilities - the only thing those weapons reflect is what's readily available at the arms bazaars in that area of the world. And most militants tend to use what's easiest and cheapest to acquire in their region, which in most of the world means AKs. The average terrorist group doesn't think to itself, "Let's go out and spend $1,000 per unit on H&K G36s because everyone will think we're badass operators if we pose with those guns in our YouTube videos." To them, weapons are tools to get a job done, and in guerrilla warfare, there's not much practical difference between an AK or a G36, anyway.

	:::Also, contrary to what shows like ''Deadliest Warrior'' would have you believe, comparing a narco-insurgency like the Taliban or FARC to Al-Qaeda or the PIRA is actually a pretty retarded comparison. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 18:04, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

	The grabs from Hulu tend to be of inferior quality. I know some people are able to grab the episodes off the air in HD, so that would be the preferred format until the DVD comes out. --[[User:Ben41\|Ben41]] 01:07, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

	== Series Finale ==		== Series Finale ==

1911isthebestgunever: /* Pistols so overused */

2013-03-12T01:38:36Z

Pistols so overused

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	Does anyone know why the producers/armorer/Kiefer Sutherland decided to make the switch from a Sig P228 to the USP Compact? Realistically speaking I think a federal agent would be much more likely to carry the Sig. (Although 24 has never been too concerned with what someone would realistically do!)		Does anyone know why the producers/armorer/Kiefer Sutherland decided to make the switch from a Sig P228 to the USP Compact? Realistically speaking I think a federal agent would be much more likely to carry the Sig. (Although 24 has never been too concerned with what someone would realistically do!)

			I always assumed that it was because pistols are more easily concealed than a larger weapon. Also about the switch from [[SIG Sauer P228]] to the [[H&K USP Compact]], the USP is smaller while still retaining the same capacity of 13 rounds, but the biggest reason I could think of, was that it was to give Jack a unique sidearm that isn't the typical SIG, GLOCK, Or Beretta. No one else in the series uses it as a personal sidearm and few use it other than Jack.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever\|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever\|talk]]) 21:38, 11 March 2013 (EDT)
	===Useful Links===		===Useful Links===

1911isthebestgunever: /* Shotguns on 24 */

2013-03-12T01:04:22Z

Shotguns on 24

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	* [[Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser]], Used by Cole to breach Jim Ricker's apartment.		* [[Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser]], Used by Cole to breach Jim Ricker's apartment.

			Just felt inclined to add this.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever\|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever\|talk]]) 21:04, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

	==Pistols so overused==		==Pistols so overused==

1911isthebestgunever: /* Shotguns on 24 */

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Shotguns on 24

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	List of moments that a shotgun issued by CTU is used:		List of moments that a shotgun issued by CTU is used:

	Season 2:		Season 2:
	* [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]], Used by Jack to fire rubber shells to incapacitate a terrorist.		* [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]], Used by Jack to fire rubber shells to incapacitate a terrorist.

1911isthebestgunever: /* Shotguns on 24 */

2013-03-12T01:02:09Z

Shotguns on 24

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	-I noticed the exact same thing. Seems odd.		-I noticed the exact same thing. Seems odd.


	== Shotguns on 24 ==		== Shotguns on 24 ==
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	:In Season 3 Episode 1 & 2 Jack and maybe his partner Chase Edmunds ([[James Badge Dale]]) have grabbed [[Remington Model 870 Shotgun#Remington 870\|Remington 870's]] from an miniature lock and key armory in CTU Los Angeles to follow a lead supported by LAPD to go after a armed drug dealer. We also seen one standard issued in a back of a stolen FBI SUV in Season 7 Episode 18. Bottom line is CTU is a fictional agency that will make and armory look like a military grade gun store. They have already adopted the [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C\|G36C]] to be the main weapon for most terrorists in the series. And Jack of course can't figure out how to flip his [[Heckler & Koch MP7#Heckler & Koch MP7\|MP7's]] iron sights up. I think it would be a great idea to try out the new XREP shotgun taser round but the series is over and maybe no use in the upcoming 24 movie. -- [[User:HKFan\|HKFan]] 22:28, 3 May 2010 (UTC)		:In Season 3 Episode 1 & 2 Jack and maybe his partner Chase Edmunds ([[James Badge Dale]]) have grabbed [[Remington Model 870 Shotgun#Remington 870\|Remington 870's]] from an miniature lock and key armory in CTU Los Angeles to follow a lead supported by LAPD to go after a armed drug dealer. We also seen one standard issued in a back of a stolen FBI SUV in Season 7 Episode 18. Bottom line is CTU is a fictional agency that will make and armory look like a military grade gun store. They have already adopted the [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C\|G36C]] to be the main weapon for most terrorists in the series. And Jack of course can't figure out how to flip his [[Heckler & Koch MP7#Heckler & Koch MP7\|MP7's]] iron sights up. I think it would be a great idea to try out the new XREP shotgun taser round but the series is over and maybe no use in the upcoming 24 movie. -- [[User:HKFan\|HKFan]] 22:28, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

			List of moments that a shotgun issued by CTU is used:
			Season 2:
			* [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]], Used by Jack to fire rubber shells to incapacitate a terrorist.
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			* [[Remington 870]], Jack takes one from a CTU locker.
			Season 6:
			* [[Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser]], Used by jack during the rescue of Morris O'brian.
			Season 8:
			* [[Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser]], Used by Cole to breach Jim Ricker's apartment.

	==Pistols so overused==		==Pistols so overused==

173.52.234.22: /* Pistols so overused */

2011-04-12T04:31:19Z

Pistols so overused

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	Well, video game logic says all revovlers are magnums and they are usaully more powerful than full sized rifles. In movies they dont fire enough bullets and theres to many john woo wannabees who just want to direct a movie showing hundreds of rounds going everywhere.		Well, video game logic says all revovlers are magnums and they are usaully more powerful than full sized rifles. In movies they dont fire enough bullets and theres to many john woo wannabees who just want to direct a movie showing hundreds of rounds going everywhere.


			Does anyone know why the producers/armorer/Kiefer Sutherland decided to make the switch from a Sig P228 to the USP Compact? Realistically speaking I think a federal agent would be much more likely to carry the Sig. (Although 24 has never been too concerned with what someone would realistically do!)

	===Useful Links===		===Useful Links===

AceV: /* Useful Links */

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Useful Links

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	http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Handguns_on_24		http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Handguns_on_24

			Some of it is incorrrect, because it says that Jack used an Uzi against Bazhaev in Episode 8, but he used a Steyr SPP.

Ben41 at 02:32, 1 June 2010

2010-06-01T02:32:04Z

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