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Spartan198: /* Uniforms */

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	::::I think the Army was just pissed that the Marines beat them to it when getting digital camo, so the Army top brass didn't want to adopt what's already been established as the Marine camouflage pattern.--[[User:Wildcards\|Wildcards]] 22:51, 2 December 2010 (UTC)		::::I think the Army was just pissed that the Marines beat them to it when getting digital camo, so the Army top brass didn't want to adopt what's already been established as the Marine camouflage pattern.--[[User:Wildcards\|Wildcards]] 22:51, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

			:::::Even if the Army had considered MARPAT, the Marines would have thrown a fit about it like they unsuccessfully did when SOCOM started developing their AOR camos. This business with every branch and unit within wanting their own individual patterns is vain and superficial BS that should be nipped in the bud. These are warfighting organizations, not modeling agencies. [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198\|talk]]) 19:01, 13 October 2013 (EDT)

Wildcards: /* Uniforms */

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	:::I've never understood why they just didn't go with the MARPAT patterns (woodland and desert) used by the Marines. I realize that there's inter-service rivalry and all, but for years, the services all used the woodland camo BDUs and desert DCUs without any issues. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 14:16, 5 June 2010 (UTC)		:::I've never understood why they just didn't go with the MARPAT patterns (woodland and desert) used by the Marines. I realize that there's inter-service rivalry and all, but for years, the services all used the woodland camo BDUs and desert DCUs without any issues. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 14:16, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

			::::I think the Army was just pissed that the Marines beat them to it when getting digital camo, so the Army top brass didn't want to adopt what's already been established as the Marine camouflage pattern.--[[User:Wildcards\|Wildcards]] 22:51, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

MT2008: /* Uniforms */

2010-06-05T14:16:14Z

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	::Yeah, I recall hearing that the Multicam was being fielded on a limited basis in Afghanistan, but I didn't hear anything about whether or not it's being standardized. Would be nice, though, since the ACU was clearly a bad idea. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 17:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)		::Yeah, I recall hearing that the Multicam was being fielded on a limited basis in Afghanistan, but I didn't hear anything about whether or not it's being standardized. Would be nice, though, since the ACU was clearly a bad idea. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 17:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
	I've seen alot of photos in Afghanistan and the ACUs actually blend in pretty well. The problem is that the ACUs are supposed to be a "Universal" Camouflage(The correct term for the actual pattern is UCP) and its basically worthless in a woodland environment. --[[User:AdAstra2009\|AdAstra2009]] 20:17, 13 May 2010 (UTC)		I've seen alot of photos in Afghanistan and the ACUs actually blend in pretty well. The problem is that the ACUs are supposed to be a "Universal" Camouflage(The correct term for the actual pattern is UCP) and its basically worthless in a woodland environment. --[[User:AdAstra2009\|AdAstra2009]] 20:17, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

			:::I've never understood why they just didn't go with the MARPAT patterns (woodland and desert) used by the Marines. I realize that there's inter-service rivalry and all, but for years, the services all used the woodland camo BDUs and desert DCUs without any issues. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 14:16, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

MT2008 at 11:57, 3 June 2010

2010-06-03T11:57:51Z

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	:This movie was filmed in British Columbia, and as we've seen on TV shows like ''[[Stargate: Atlantis]]'', the Canadian armorers can buy the QBZ rifles (and have evidently done so). Whereas American armorers can't. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]]		:This movie was filmed in British Columbia, and as we've seen on TV shows like ''[[Stargate: Atlantis]]'', the Canadian armorers can buy the QBZ rifles (and have evidently done so). Whereas American armorers can't. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]]
	::It's a good thing that they are highly accurate on guns. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 13:38, 4 May 2010 (UTC)		::It's a good thing that they are highly accurate on guns. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 13:38, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

			:::The weapons are almost surely going to be the QBZ-97, rather than the -95, because it's only the 5.56x45mm version that is available in Canada (where this movie was filmed). Also, those are the versions that we've seen in ''[[Stargate: Atlantis]]'', and remember that the armorers that supplied that show are the same ones who supplied this movie. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 11:57, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

	==Uniforms==		==Uniforms==

AdAstra2009 at 20:17, 13 May 2010

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	::Yeah, I recall hearing that the Multicam was being fielded on a limited basis in Afghanistan, but I didn't hear anything about whether or not it's being standardized. Would be nice, though, since the ACU was clearly a bad idea. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 17:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)		::Yeah, I recall hearing that the Multicam was being fielded on a limited basis in Afghanistan, but I didn't hear anything about whether or not it's being standardized. Would be nice, though, since the ACU was clearly a bad idea. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 17:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
			I've seen alot of photos in Afghanistan and the ACUs actually blend in pretty well. The problem is that the ACUs are supposed to be a "Universal" Camouflage(The correct term for the actual pattern is UCP) and its basically worthless in a woodland environment. --[[User:AdAstra2009\|AdAstra2009]] 20:17, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

MT2008: /* Uniforms */

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	Are those Multicam uniforms that the U.S. troops are wearing? As much as the ACU might have its (well-known) faults, it seems pretty optimistic to expect its replacement by 2012. :) -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 04:51, 13 May 2010 (UTC)		Are those Multicam uniforms that the U.S. troops are wearing? As much as the ACU might have its (well-known) faults, it seems pretty optimistic to expect its replacement by 2012. :) -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 04:51, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
	:Well, the US Army ''is'' actually fielding multicam uniforms to troops in/deploying to Afghanistan as of this year [http://www.army.mil/-news/2010/03/02/35184-soldiers-deploying-to-afghanistan-to-get-new-multicam-uniforms-boots-gear/index.html]. But I sure do hope that's the ''only'' thing the movie accurately predicts... :O [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] 08:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)		:Well, the US Army ''is'' actually fielding multicam uniforms to troops in/deploying to Afghanistan as of this year [http://www.army.mil/-news/2010/03/02/35184-soldiers-deploying-to-afghanistan-to-get-new-multicam-uniforms-boots-gear/index.html]. But I sure do hope that's the ''only'' thing the movie accurately predicts... :O [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] 08:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

			::Yeah, I recall hearing that the Multicam was being fielded on a limited basis in Afghanistan, but I didn't hear anything about whether or not it's being standardized. Would be nice, though, since the ACU was clearly a bad idea. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 17:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Spartan198: /* Uniforms */

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	Are those Multicam uniforms that the U.S. troops are wearing? As much as the ACU might have its (well-known) faults, it seems pretty optimistic to expect its replacement by 2012. :) -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 04:51, 13 May 2010 (UTC)		Are those Multicam uniforms that the U.S. troops are wearing? As much as the ACU might have its (well-known) faults, it seems pretty optimistic to expect its replacement by 2012. :) -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 04:51, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
			:Well, the US Army ''is'' actually fielding multicam uniforms to troops in/deploying to Afghanistan as of this year [http://www.army.mil/-news/2010/03/02/35184-soldiers-deploying-to-afghanistan-to-get-new-multicam-uniforms-boots-gear/index.html]. But I sure do hope that's the ''only'' thing the movie accurately predicts... :O [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] 08:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

MT2008 at 04:51, 13 May 2010

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	== QBZ 95 ==		== QBZ 95 ==

	Finally the actual stand in weapon for the Chinese military. At least they didn't have the Chinese with AKs [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]]		Finally the actual stand in weapon for the Chinese military. At least they didn't have the Chinese with AKs [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]]

	:This ~~was~~ movie was filmed in British Columbia, and as we've seen TV shows like ''[[Stargate: Atlantis]]'', the Canadian armorers can buy the QBZ rifles (and have evidently done so). Whereas American armorers can't. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]]		:This movie was filmed in British Columbia, and as we've seen on TV shows like ''[[Stargate: Atlantis]]'', the Canadian armorers can buy the QBZ rifles (and have evidently done so). Whereas American armorers can't. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]]
	::It's a good thing that they are highly accurate on guns. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 13:38, 4 May 2010 (UTC)		::It's a good thing that they are highly accurate on guns. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 13:38, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

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			Are those Multicam uniforms that the U.S. troops are wearing? As much as the ACU might have its (well-known) faults, it seems pretty optimistic to expect its replacement by 2012. :) -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 04:51, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Kenny99: /* QBZ 95 */

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	:This was movie was filmed in British Columbia, and as we've seen TV shows like ''[[Stargate: Atlantis]]'', the Canadian armorers can buy the QBZ rifles (and have evidently done so). Whereas American armorers can't. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]]		:This was movie was filmed in British Columbia, and as we've seen TV shows like ''[[Stargate: Atlantis]]'', the Canadian armorers can buy the QBZ rifles (and have evidently done so). Whereas American armorers can't. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]]
			::It's a good thing that they are highly accurate on guns. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 13:38, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

MT2008: /* QBZ 95 */

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	Finally the actual stand in weapon for the Chinese military. At least they didn't have the Chinese with AKs [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]]		Finally the actual stand in weapon for the Chinese military. At least they didn't have the Chinese with AKs [[User:Excalibur01\|Excalibur01]]

			:This was movie was filmed in British Columbia, and as we've seen TV shows like ''[[Stargate: Atlantis]]'', the Canadian armorers can buy the QBZ rifles (and have evidently done so). Whereas American armorers can't. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]]

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	::Yeah, I recall hearing that the Multicam was being fielded on a limited basis in Afghanistan, but I didn't hear anything about whether or not it's being standardized. Would be nice, though, since the ACU was clearly a bad idea. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 17:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)		::Yeah, I recall hearing that the Multicam was being fielded on a limited basis in Afghanistan, but I didn't hear anything about whether or not it's being standardized. Would be nice, though, since the ACU was clearly a bad idea. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 17:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
	I've seen alot of photos in Afghanistan and the ACUs actually blend in pretty well. The problem is that the ACUs are supposed to be a "Universal" Camouflage(The correct term for the actual pattern is UCP) and its basically worthless in a woodland environment. --[[User:AdAstra2009\|AdAstra2009]] 20:17, 13 May 2010 (UTC)		I've seen alot of photos in Afghanistan and the ACUs actually blend in pretty well. The problem is that the ACUs are supposed to be a "Universal" Camouflage(The correct term for the actual pattern is UCP) and its basically worthless in a woodland environment. --[[User:AdAstra2009\|AdAstra2009]] 20:17, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

			:::I've never understood why they just didn't go with the MARPAT patterns (woodland and desert) used by the Marines. I realize that there's inter-service rivalry and all, but for years, the services all used the woodland camo BDUs and desert DCUs without any issues. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 14:16, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

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	Are those Multicam uniforms that the U.S. troops are wearing? As much as the ACU might have its (well-known) faults, it seems pretty optimistic to expect its replacement by 2012. :) -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 04:51, 13 May 2010 (UTC)		Are those Multicam uniforms that the U.S. troops are wearing? As much as the ACU might have its (well-known) faults, it seems pretty optimistic to expect its replacement by 2012. :) -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 04:51, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
	:Well, the US Army ''is'' actually fielding multicam uniforms to troops in/deploying to Afghanistan as of this year [http://www.army.mil/-news/2010/03/02/35184-soldiers-deploying-to-afghanistan-to-get-new-multicam-uniforms-boots-gear/index.html]. But I sure do hope that's the ''only'' thing the movie accurately predicts... :O [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] 08:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)		:Well, the US Army ''is'' actually fielding multicam uniforms to troops in/deploying to Afghanistan as of this year [http://www.army.mil/-news/2010/03/02/35184-soldiers-deploying-to-afghanistan-to-get-new-multicam-uniforms-boots-gear/index.html]. But I sure do hope that's the ''only'' thing the movie accurately predicts... :O [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] 08:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

			::Yeah, I recall hearing that the Multicam was being fielded on a limited basis in Afghanistan, but I didn't hear anything about whether or not it's being standardized. Would be nice, though, since the ACU was clearly a bad idea. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 17:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)