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LJ: /* M3 "Grease Gun" */ In the first image, the back seat Triad is firing, while in the second image Jeff Imada's character is firing through the front window.

2021-08-22T19:17:35Z

M3 "Grease Gun": In the first image, the back seat Triad is firing, while in the second image Jeff Imada's character is firing through the front window.

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	When Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) is attacked by the Triad gang members, two of them are seen firing [[M3A1 "Grease Gun"\|M3 "Grease Guns"]]. They clearly have external charging handles, helping to identify them as older M3s, not M3A1s.		When Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) is attacked by the Triad gang members, two of them are seen firing [[M3A1 "Grease Gun"\|M3 "Grease Guns"]]. They clearly have external charging handles, helping to identify them as older M3s, not M3A1s.
	[[Image:M3 Grease.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|M3A1 "Grease Gun" - .45 ACP]]		[[Image:M3 Grease.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|M3A1 "Grease Gun" - .45 ACP]]
	[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|~~Chow's bodyguard~~ fires his M3 "Grease Gun" at the taxi cab.]]		[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|One of the Triads fires his M3 "Grease Gun" at the taxi cab.]]
	[[Image:PaybackVP70-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Chow's bodyguard (right) fires his M3.]]		[[Image:PaybackVP70-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Chow's bodyguard (right) fires his M3.]]
	[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The two Triads unload their M3 "Grease Guns".]]		[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The two Triads unload their M3 "Grease Guns".]]

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2021-08-22T19:06:20Z

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MT2008: /* Smith & Wesson Model 29 */

2020-11-23T21:56:08Z

Smith & Wesson Model 29

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	==Smith & Wesson Model 29==		==Smith & Wesson Model 29==
	Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with S&W factory combat grips (refinished by Peter Orr) for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback\|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''		Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29\|Smith & Wesson Model 29-2]] 4" with S&W factory combat grips (refinished by Peter Orr) for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback\|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''

	The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', in which [[Lee Marvin]] used a nearly identical weapon. The Model 29 from this movie was sold when the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory was auctioned off in 1999, and [https://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=27408650 later re-sold] by Little John's Auction Service in 2007.		The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', in which [[Lee Marvin]] used a nearly identical weapon. The Model 29 from this movie was sold when the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory was auctioned off in 1999, and [https://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=27408650 later re-sold] by Little John's Auction Service in 2007.

	[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]		[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29-2 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]
	[[Image:27408650 2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|The Smith & Wesson Model 29 from ''[[Payback]].'' The pistol shown here is the actual screen-used firearm from the movie; this gun was auctioned off by Stembridge Gun Rentals in 1999, and later re-sold by a different auction house.]]		[[Image:27408650 2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|The Smith & Wesson Model 29-2 from ''[[Payback]].'' The pistol shown here is the actual screen-used firearm from the movie; this gun was auctioned off by Stembridge Gun Rentals in 1999, and later re-sold by a different auction house.]]
	[[Image:27408650 4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Another view of the screen-used Smith & Wesson Model 29 from ''[[Payback]].'']]		[[Image:27408650 4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Another view of the screen-used Smith & Wesson Model 29-2 from ''[[Payback]].'']]
	[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]]		[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]]
	[[Image:PaybackS&W27-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|'''Left:''' Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. <BR>'''Right:''' Porter examines the barrel. Note the smooth topstrap and bull barrel. Both consistent with a Model 29.]]		[[Image:PaybackS&W27-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|'''Left:''' Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. <BR>'''Right:''' Porter examines the barrel. Note the smooth topstrap and bull barrel. Both consistent with a Model 29.]]

MT2008: /* Smith & Wesson Model 29 */

2020-11-14T19:55:23Z

Smith & Wesson Model 29

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	==Smith & Wesson Model 29==		==Smith & Wesson Model 29==
	Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with Peter Orr ~~custom grips~~ for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback\|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''		Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with S&W factory combat grips (refinished by Peter Orr) for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback\|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''

	The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', in which [[Lee Marvin]] used a nearly identical weapon. The Model 29 from this movie was sold when the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory was auctioned off in 1999, and [https://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=27408650 later re-sold] by Little John's Auction Service in 2007.		The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', in which [[Lee Marvin]] used a nearly identical weapon. The Model 29 from this movie was sold when the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory was auctioned off in 1999, and [https://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=27408650 later re-sold] by Little John's Auction Service in 2007.

MT2008: /* Smith & Wesson Model 29 */

2020-11-09T02:09:24Z

Smith & Wesson Model 29

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	Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with Peter Orr custom grips for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback\|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''		Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with Peter Orr custom grips for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback\|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''

	The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', in which [[Lee Marvin]] used a nearly identical weapon. The Model 29 from this movie was sold when the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory was auctioned off in 1999, and [https://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=27408650 later re-sold] by ~~a different auction house~~.		The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', in which [[Lee Marvin]] used a nearly identical weapon. The Model 29 from this movie was sold when the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory was auctioned off in 1999, and [https://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=27408650 later re-sold] by Little John's Auction Service in 2007.

	[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]		[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]

MT2008: /* Smith & Wesson Model 29 */

2020-11-09T02:08:38Z

Smith & Wesson Model 29

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	==Smith & Wesson Model 29==		==Smith & Wesson Model 29==
	Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with ~~S&W factory combat~~ grips for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback\|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''		Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with Peter Orr custom grips for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback\|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''

	The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', in which [[Lee Marvin]] used a nearly identical weapon.		The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', in which [[Lee Marvin]] used a nearly identical weapon. The Model 29 from this movie was sold when the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory was auctioned off in 1999, and [https://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=27408650 later re-sold] by a different auction house.

	[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]		[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]

MT2008: /* Smith & Wesson Model 29 */

2020-11-09T01:35:43Z

Smith & Wesson Model 29

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	[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]		[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]
	[[Image:27408650 2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~300px~~\|The Smith & Wesson Model 29 from ''[[Payback]].'' The pistol shown here is the actual screen-used firearm from the movie; this gun was auctioned off by Stembridge Gun Rentals in 1999, and later re-sold by a different auction house.]]		[[Image:27408650 2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|The Smith & Wesson Model 29 from ''[[Payback]].'' The pistol shown here is the actual screen-used firearm from the movie; this gun was auctioned off by Stembridge Gun Rentals in 1999, and later re-sold by a different auction house.]]
	[[Image:27408650 4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~300px~~\|Another view of the screen-used Smith & Wesson Model 29 from ''[[Payback]].'']]		[[Image:27408650 4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Another view of the screen-used Smith & Wesson Model 29 from ''[[Payback]].'']]
	[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]]		[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]]
	[[Image:PaybackS&W27-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|'''Left:''' Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. <BR>'''Right:''' Porter examines the barrel. Note the smooth topstrap and bull barrel. Both consistent with a Model 29.]]		[[Image:PaybackS&W27-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|'''Left:''' Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. <BR>'''Right:''' Porter examines the barrel. Note the smooth topstrap and bull barrel. Both consistent with a Model 29.]]

MT2008: /* Smith & Wesson Model 29 */

2020-11-09T01:35:29Z

Smith & Wesson Model 29

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	[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]		[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]
			[[Image:27408650 2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|The Smith & Wesson Model 29 from ''[[Payback]].'' The pistol shown here is the actual screen-used firearm from the movie; this gun was auctioned off by Stembridge Gun Rentals in 1999, and later re-sold by a different auction house.]]
			[[Image:27408650 4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Another view of the screen-used Smith & Wesson Model 29 from ''[[Payback]].'']]
	[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]]		[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]]
	[[Image:PaybackS&W27-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|'''Left:''' Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. <BR>'''Right:''' Porter examines the barrel. Note the smooth topstrap and bull barrel. Both consistent with a Model 29.]]		[[Image:PaybackS&W27-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|'''Left:''' Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. <BR>'''Right:''' Porter examines the barrel. Note the smooth topstrap and bull barrel. Both consistent with a Model 29.]]

Ben41 at 19:08, 29 December 2018

2018-12-29T19:08:35Z

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	\|picture = Payback cover.jpg		\|picture = Payback cover.jpg
	\|caption = ''~~Theatrical Poster~~''		\|caption = ''Blu Ray Cover''
	\|country = [[Image:USA.jpg\|25px]] United States		\|country = [[Image:USA.jpg\|25px]] United States
	\|director = Brian Helgeland		\|director = Brian Helgeland
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	'''''Payback''''' is a 1999 thriller starring [[Mel Gibson]] as Porter, a thief who is double crossed and left for dead by both his wife and his partner in crime. After surviving the incident, Porter decides to go after them and get the money he's owed. The film is an adaptation of Richard Stark's novel ''The Hunter'', and the novel's main character was also adapted into the 1967 [[Lee Marvin]] film ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', the 1992 [[Chow Yun-Fat]] film ''[[Full Contact]]'' as well as the 2013 [[Jason Statham]] film ''[[Parker]]''.		'''''Payback''''' is a 1999 thriller starring [[Mel Gibson]] as Porter, a thief who is double-crossed and left for dead by both his wife and his partner in crime. After surviving the incident, Porter decides to go after them and get the money he's owed. The film is an adaptation of Richard Stark's novel ''The Hunter'', and the novel's main character was also adapted into the 1967 [[Lee Marvin]] film ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', the 1992 [[Chow Yun-Fat]] film ''[[Full Contact]]'' as well as the 2013 [[Jason Statham]] film ''[[Parker]]''.

	Unsatisfied with the original tone of the film as well as the ending, Gibson decided to reshoot several sequences and add several characters to the film before its initial theatrical release in 1999. In 2006, Brian Helgeland, the original writer/director of the film, was allowed to go back and restore his original vision for the film, which subsequently was released on DVD as "Payback Straight Up: The Director's Cut". Most of the screencaps for this page are from the Director's Cut.		Unsatisfied with the original tone of the film as well as the ending, Gibson decided to reshoot several sequences and add several characters to the film before its initial theatrical release in 1999. In 2006, Brian Helgeland, the original writer/director of the film, was allowed to go back and restore his original vision for the film, which subsequently was released on DVD as "Payback Straight Up: The Director's Cut". Most of the screencaps for this page are from the Director's Cut.

MT2008: /* Smith & Wesson Model 29 */

2017-03-06T02:19:46Z

Smith & Wesson Model 29

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	==Smith & Wesson Model 29==		==Smith & Wesson Model 29==
	Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with S&W factory combat grips for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback\|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''		Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with S&W factory combat grips for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback\|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''

			The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', in which [[Lee Marvin]] used a nearly identical weapon.

	[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]		[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]
	[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]]		[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]]

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	When Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) is attacked by the Triad gang members, two of them are seen firing [[M3A1 "Grease Gun"\|M3 "Grease Guns"]]. They clearly have external charging handles, helping to identify them as older M3s, not M3A1s.		When Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) is attacked by the Triad gang members, two of them are seen firing [[M3A1 "Grease Gun"\|M3 "Grease Guns"]]. They clearly have external charging handles, helping to identify them as older M3s, not M3A1s.
	[[Image:M3 Grease.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|M3A1 "Grease Gun" - .45 ACP]]		[[Image:M3 Grease.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|M3A1 "Grease Gun" - .45 ACP]]
	[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|~~Chow's bodyguard~~ fires his M3 "Grease Gun" at the taxi cab.]]		[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|One of the Triads fires his M3 "Grease Gun" at the taxi cab.]]
	[[Image:PaybackVP70-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Chow's bodyguard (right) fires his M3.]]		[[Image:PaybackVP70-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Chow's bodyguard (right) fires his M3.]]
	[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The two Triads unload their M3 "Grease Guns".]]		[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The two Triads unload their M3 "Grease Guns".]]

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	==Smith & Wesson Model 29==		==Smith & Wesson Model 29==
	Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with S&W factory combat grips (refinished by Peter Orr) for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback\|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''		Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29\|Smith & Wesson Model 29-2]] 4" with S&W factory combat grips (refinished by Peter Orr) for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback\|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''

	The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', in which [[Lee Marvin]] used a nearly identical weapon. The Model 29 from this movie was sold when the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory was auctioned off in 1999, and [https://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=27408650 later re-sold] by Little John's Auction Service in 2007.		The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', in which [[Lee Marvin]] used a nearly identical weapon. The Model 29 from this movie was sold when the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory was auctioned off in 1999, and [https://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=27408650 later re-sold] by Little John's Auction Service in 2007.

	[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]		[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29-2 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]
	[[Image:27408650 2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|The Smith & Wesson Model 29 from ''[[Payback]].'' The pistol shown here is the actual screen-used firearm from the movie; this gun was auctioned off by Stembridge Gun Rentals in 1999, and later re-sold by a different auction house.]]		[[Image:27408650 2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|The Smith & Wesson Model 29-2 from ''[[Payback]].'' The pistol shown here is the actual screen-used firearm from the movie; this gun was auctioned off by Stembridge Gun Rentals in 1999, and later re-sold by a different auction house.]]
	[[Image:27408650 4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Another view of the screen-used Smith & Wesson Model 29 from ''[[Payback]].'']]		[[Image:27408650 4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Another view of the screen-used Smith & Wesson Model 29-2 from ''[[Payback]].'']]
	[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]]		[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]]
	[[Image:PaybackS&W27-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|'''Left:''' Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. <BR>'''Right:''' Porter examines the barrel. Note the smooth topstrap and bull barrel. Both consistent with a Model 29.]]		[[Image:PaybackS&W27-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|'''Left:''' Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. <BR>'''Right:''' Porter examines the barrel. Note the smooth topstrap and bull barrel. Both consistent with a Model 29.]]

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	Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with Peter Orr custom grips for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback\|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''		Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with Peter Orr custom grips for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback\|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''

	The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', in which [[Lee Marvin]] used a nearly identical weapon. The Model 29 from this movie was sold when the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory was auctioned off in 1999, and [https://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=27408650 later re-sold] by ~~a different auction house~~.		The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to ''[[Point Blank (1967)\|Point Blank]]'', in which [[Lee Marvin]] used a nearly identical weapon. The Model 29 from this movie was sold when the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory was auctioned off in 1999, and [https://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=27408650 later re-sold] by Little John's Auction Service in 2007.

	[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]		[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]

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	[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]		[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]
	[[Image:27408650 2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~300px~~\|The Smith & Wesson Model 29 from ''[[Payback]].'' The pistol shown here is the actual screen-used firearm from the movie; this gun was auctioned off by Stembridge Gun Rentals in 1999, and later re-sold by a different auction house.]]		[[Image:27408650 2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|The Smith & Wesson Model 29 from ''[[Payback]].'' The pistol shown here is the actual screen-used firearm from the movie; this gun was auctioned off by Stembridge Gun Rentals in 1999, and later re-sold by a different auction house.]]
	[[Image:27408650 4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~300px~~\|Another view of the screen-used Smith & Wesson Model 29 from ''[[Payback]].'']]		[[Image:27408650 4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Another view of the screen-used Smith & Wesson Model 29 from ''[[Payback]].'']]
	[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]]		[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]]
	[[Image:PaybackS&W27-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|'''Left:''' Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. <BR>'''Right:''' Porter examines the barrel. Note the smooth topstrap and bull barrel. Both consistent with a Model 29.]]		[[Image:PaybackS&W27-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|'''Left:''' Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. <BR>'''Right:''' Porter examines the barrel. Note the smooth topstrap and bull barrel. Both consistent with a Model 29.]]

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	==SIG-Sauer P220==		==SIG-Sauer P220==
	~~The Triad van driver~~ ([[Jeff Imada]]) is seen firing a [[SIG-Sauer P220]] through the floor of the van at Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]). Earlier in the film Porter is seen taking a SIG P220 from one of Carter's ([[William Devane]]) guards after knocking him out with a roll of pennies and then using it to kill him. They are noted as P220 models by their lack of double stack bulges on the frame, and their .45-sized muzzle diameters.		Chow's bodyguard ([[Jeff Imada]]) is seen firing a [[SIG-Sauer P220]] through the floor of the van at Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]). Earlier in the film Porter is seen taking a SIG P220 from one of Carter's ([[William Devane]]) guards after knocking him out with a roll of pennies and then using it to kill him. They are noted as P220 models by their lack of double stack bulges on the frame, and their .45-sized muzzle diameters.
	[[Image:SigP220EarlyModel.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|SIG-Sauer P220 - .45 ACP]]		[[Image:SigP220EarlyModel.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|SIG-Sauer P220 - .45 ACP]]
	[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Porter shoots Carter with one of his guard's [[SIG-Sauer P220]] pistols.]]		[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Porter shoots Carter with one of his guard's [[SIG-Sauer P220]] pistols.]]
	[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|~~The Triad van driver~~ ([[Jeff Imada]]) fires his SIG P220 at Porter under the van, and misses him despite him being directly under him.]]		[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Chow's bodyguard ([[Jeff Imada]]) fires his SIG P220 at Porter under the van, and misses him despite him being directly under him.]]
	[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|~~The Triad driver~~ is shot by Porter. Note the lack of bulges in the frame.]]		[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Chow's bodyguard is shot by Porter. Note the lack of bulges in the frame.]]
	[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|One of the Outfit members at the end of the film tries to exit the car and shoot at Porter while armed with a SIG-Sauer P220. The actor playing this thug is Marc Vann, best known for playing Conrad Ecklie in ''[[CSI]]''. The one in the middle is John Glover, best known for playing Lionel Luthor in ''[[Smallville]]''.]]		[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|One of the Outfit members at the end of the film tries to exit the car and shoot at Porter while armed with a SIG-Sauer P220. The actor playing this thug is Marc Vann, best known for playing Conrad Ecklie in ''[[CSI]]''. The one in the middle is John Glover, best known for playing Lionel Luthor in ''[[Smallville]]''.]]

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	When Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) is attacked by the Triad gang members, two of them are seen firing [[M3A1 "Grease Gun"\|M3 "Grease Guns"]]. They clearly have external charging handles, helping to identify them as older M3s, not M3A1s.		When Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) is attacked by the Triad gang members, two of them are seen firing [[M3A1 "Grease Gun"\|M3 "Grease Guns"]]. They clearly have external charging handles, helping to identify them as older M3s, not M3A1s.
	[[Image:M3 Grease.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|M3A1 "Grease Gun" - .45 ACP]]		[[Image:M3 Grease.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|M3A1 "Grease Gun" - .45 ACP]]
	[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|~~One of the Triad gang members~~ fires his M3 "Grease Gun" at the taxi cab.]]		[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Chow's bodyguard fires his M3 "Grease Gun" at the taxi cab.]]
			[[Image:PaybackVP70-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Chow's bodyguard (right) fires his M3.]]
	[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The two Triads unload their M3 "Grease Guns".]]		[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The two Triads unload their M3 "Grease Guns".]]