Never Say Die - Revision history

Pustelga7 at 20:07, 5 August 2023

2023-08-05T20:07:04Z

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	\|actor7=Hal Orlandini		\|actor7=Hal Orlandini
	\|~~character7~~=Congressman Earl Le Roux		\|character8=Congressman Earl Le Roux
	\|~~actor7~~=Michael Brunner		\|actor8=Michael Brunner
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Greg-Z: /* Assault Rifles */

2021-09-07T16:50:30Z

Assault Rifles

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	= Assault Rifles =		= Assault Rifles =
	== M16 ==		== M16 ==
	During the attack on "Garden of Eden" Mike Roper ([[Todd Jensen]]) is armed with an [[M16]], fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] grenade launcher. This version of M16 has slickside upper receiver and full fence lower receiver, like USAF M16 (Colt Model 604) and export Model 614. In a ~~continuty~~ error it switches to another version of M16 with grenade launcher (see below) and then back again.		During the attack on "Garden of Eden" Mike Roper ([[Todd Jensen]]) is armed with an [[M16]], fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] grenade launcher. This version of M16 has slickside upper receiver and full fence lower receiver, like USAF M16 (Colt Model 604) and export Model 614. In a continuity error it switches to another version of M16 with grenade launcher (see below) and then back again.
	[[File:Colt Model 614.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Colt Model 614 - 5.56x45mm. This is an export variant of the M16, and is equivalent to the Model 604 used by the USAF.]]		[[File:Colt Model 614.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Colt Model 614 - 5.56x45mm. This is an export variant of the M16, and is equivalent to the Model 604 used by the USAF.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-M16-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Roper holds his M16 with Cobray CM203 while in helicopter.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-M16-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Roper holds his M16 with Cobray CM203 while in helicopter.]]
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	== Colt AR-15A2 Sporter II ==		== Colt AR-15A2 Sporter II ==
	In a ~~continuty~~ error Roper's M16A1 switches to a different version of M16 that has A1 upper receiver and Sporter lower receiver so appears to be a [[Colt AR-15A2 Sporter II]]. A CM203 launcher is also mounted on this rifle but the exact item is different. The same UBGL-fitted gun is later used by a police officer. M16s of same version are used by FBI agents in several scenes.		In a continuity error Roper's M16A1 switches to a different version of M16 that has A1 upper receiver and Sporter lower receiver so appears to be a [[Colt AR-15A2 Sporter II]]. A CM203 launcher is also mounted on this rifle but the exact item is different. The same UBGL-fitted gun is later used by a police officer. M16s of same version are used by FBI agents in several scenes.
	[[File:1001147qb7.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Colt AR-15A2 Sporter II, early model with A1 upper receiver and magazine removed - 5.56x45mm]]		[[File:1001147qb7.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Colt AR-15A2 Sporter II, early model with A1 upper receiver and magazine removed - 5.56x45mm]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-M16-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Roper holds a different M16 that has A1 upper receiver and slabside lower receiver. The grenade launcher is also different as it has the trigger guard on place.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-M16-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Roper holds a different M16 that has A1 upper receiver and slabside lower receiver. The grenade launcher is also different as it has the trigger guard on place.]]

Greg-Z: /* Customized AR-15 */

2017-01-29T19:02:28Z

Customized AR-15

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	= Assault Rifles =		= Assault Rifles =
	== ~~Customized AR-15~~ ==		== M16 ==
	During the attack on "Garden of Eden" Mike Roper ([[Todd Jensen]]) is armed with ~~some version of~~ M16, fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] grenade launcher. This ~~probably custom gun~~ has slickside upper receiver and full fence lower receiver, like USAF M16 (Colt Model 604). In a continuty error it switches to another version of M16 with grenade launcher (see below) and then back again.		During the attack on "Garden of Eden" Mike Roper ([[Todd Jensen]]) is armed with an [[M16]], fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] grenade launcher. This version of M16 has slickside upper receiver and full fence lower receiver, like USAF M16 (Colt Model 604) and export Model 614. In a continuty error it switches to another version of M16 with grenade launcher (see below) and then back again.
	[[File:~~USAF~~ Colt Model ~~604~~.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~400px\|For comparison: "USAF" M16 (~~Colt Model ~~604)~~ - 5.56x45mm]]		[[File:Colt Model 614.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Colt Model 614 - 5.56x45mm. This is an export variant of the M16, and is equivalent to the Model 604 used by the USAF.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-M16-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Roper holds his M16 with Cobray CM203 while in helicopter.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-M16-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Roper holds his M16 with Cobray CM203 while in helicopter.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-M16-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A closeup of the barrel and the launcher.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-M16-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A closeup of the barrel and the launcher.]]

Greg-Z: /* Customized AR-15 Version 2 */

2017-01-29T11:51:37Z

Customized AR-15 Version 2

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	[[File:Never Say Die-M16-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|One more view of Roper's rifle.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-M16-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|One more view of Roper's rifle.]]

	== ~~Customized~~ AR-~~15 Version 2~~ ==		== Colt AR-15A2 Sporter II ==
	In a continuty error Roper's M16A1 switches to a different version of M16 that has A1 upper receiver and ~~slabside~~ lower receiver. A CM203 launcher is also mounted on this rifle but the exact item is different. The same UBGL-fitted gun is later used by a police officer. M16s of same version are used by FBI agents in several scenes.		In a continuty error Roper's M16A1 switches to a different version of M16 that has A1 upper receiver and Sporter lower receiver so appears to be a [[Colt AR-15A2 Sporter II]]. A CM203 launcher is also mounted on this rifle but the exact item is different. The same UBGL-fitted gun is later used by a police officer. M16s of same version are used by FBI agents in several scenes.
			[[File:1001147qb7.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Colt AR-15A2 Sporter II, early model with A1 upper receiver and magazine removed - 5.56x45mm]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-M16-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Roper holds a different M16 that has A1 upper receiver and slabside lower receiver. The grenade launcher is also different as it has the trigger guard on place.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-M16-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Roper holds a different M16 that has A1 upper receiver and slabside lower receiver. The grenade launcher is also different as it has the trigger guard on place.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-M16-19.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|An FBI agent aims his M16 at Blake.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-M16-19.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|An FBI agent aims his M16 at Blake.]]

Greg-Z: /* Customized AR-15 Version 1 */

2017-01-29T11:49:18Z

Customized AR-15 Version 1

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	= Assault Rifles =		= Assault Rifles =
	== Customized AR-15 ~~Version 1~~ ==		== Customized AR-15 ==
	During the attack on "Garden of Eden" Mike Roper ([[Todd Jensen]]) is armed with some version of M16, fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] grenade launcher. This custom gun has slickside upper receiver and full fence lower receiver. In a continuty error it switches to another version of M16 with grenade launcher (see below) and then back again.		During the attack on "Garden of Eden" Mike Roper ([[Todd Jensen]]) is armed with some version of M16, fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] grenade launcher. This probably custom gun has slickside upper receiver and full fence lower receiver, like USAF M16 (Colt Model 604). In a continuty error it switches to another version of M16 with grenade launcher (see below) and then back again.
			[[File:USAF Colt Model 604.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: "USAF" M16 (Colt Model 604) - 5.56x45mm]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-M16-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Roper holds his M16 with Cobray CM203 while in helicopter.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-M16-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Roper holds his M16 with Cobray CM203 while in helicopter.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-M16-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A closeup of the barrel and the launcher.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-M16-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A closeup of the barrel and the launcher.]]

Greg-Z: /* Vektor R5 (visually modified) */

2017-01-29T11:46:52Z

Vektor R5 (visually modified)

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	== Vektor R5 (visually modified) ==		== Vektor R5 (visually modified) ==
	[[Vektor R5]] assault rifles, visually modified to look like [[AKS-47]], are used by James' henchmen, including Amos ([[John Simon Jones]]) and Jacob ([[Phillip Ferreria]]). Such mockups are often seen in South African films.		=== Version 1 ===
			[[Vektor R5]] assault rifles, visually modified to look like [[AKS-47]], are used by James' henchmen, including Amos ([[John Simon Jones]]) and Jacob ([[Phillip Ferreria]]). In flashback James (at that time Sgt. Franklin James) ([[Billy Drago]]) and Blake (at that time Corp. Blake) ([[Frank Zagarino]]) both use fake AKs. Such mockups are often seen in South African films.
	[[Image:VektorR5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Vektor R5 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]		[[Image:VektorR5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Vektor R5 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
			[[Image:AKMS.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: AKMS - 7.62x39mm]]
			[[File:Never Say Die-AK-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|James (at that time Sgt. Franklin James) ([[Billy Drago]]) fires his AKS in flashback scene. The quality is intentionally low as the scene appears as Blake's vague memories.]]
			[[File:Never Say Die-Still-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Billy Drago holds a fake AK on promotion still.]]
			[[File:Never Say Die-AK-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			[[File:Never Say Die-AK-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Closeups of firing fake AK in flashback scene.]]
			[[File:Never Say Die-AK-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A view from another side. The bolt handle is non-standard.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Angel gives fake AKs to Amos and Jacob.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Angel gives fake AKs to Amos and Jacob.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-8.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Amos and Jacob fire their guns.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-8.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Amos and Jacob fire their guns.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A closeup of Amos' fake AKS.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A closeup of Amos' fake AKS.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-12.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Jacob runs with fake AKS.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-12.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Jacob runs with fake AKS.]]
			[[File:Never Say Die-AK-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A cult member holds a fake AKS during the shootout. This gun obviously has a 7.62x39 magazine, but it is too long and skinny, and it looks like the whole weapon is curved like it is made of rubber, so this is probably a prop gun.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-23.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Amos surprises Roper in the climactic scene.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-23.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Amos surprises Roper in the climactic scene.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-25.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A closeup of the barrel.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-25.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A closeup of the barrel.]]
			=== Version 2 ===
	Angel's ([[Robin Smith]]) main weapon is a different version of mocked up R5, fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] underbarrel launcher. Angel's rifle is briefly used by Amos while Angel drives a boat during the chase on the lake.		Angel's ([[Robin Smith]]) main weapon is a different version of mocked up R5, fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] underbarrel launcher. Angel's rifle is briefly used by Amos while Angel drives a boat during the chase on the lake.
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-14.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Angel holds his gun. Note that the lower handguard is replaced with what appears to be a pump of [[Mossberg 500]].]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-14.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Angel holds his gun. Note that the lower handguard is replaced with what appears to be a pump of [[Mossberg 500]].]]

Greg-Z: /* AKMS */

2017-01-29T11:41:39Z

AKMS

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	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-11.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Cult members fire R5s.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-11.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Cult members fire R5s.]]

	~~== AKMS ==~~
	Some genuine [[AKMS]]s are also seen in several scenes. In flashback James (at that time Sgt. Franklin James) ([[Billy Drago]]) and Blake (at that time Corp. Blake) ([[Frank Zagarino]]) both use AKMSs. An AKS is seen in hands of a cult member during the shootout in "Garden of Eden".
	~~[[Image:AKMS.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|AKMS - 7.62x39mm]]~~
	~~[[File:Never Say Die-AK-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|James fires his AKS in flashback scene. The quality is intentionally low as the scene appears as Blake's vague memories.]]~~
	~~[[File:Never Say Die-AK-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]~~
	~~[[File:Never Say Die-AK-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Closeups of firing AK.]]~~
	~~[[File:Never Say Die-AK-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A view from another side. The bolt handle is non-standard.]]~~
	~~[[File:Never Say Die-AK-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A cult member holds an AKS during the shootout.]]~~

	== Customized IMI Romat ==		== Customized IMI Romat ==

Greg-Z: /* Uzi */

2017-01-29T11:40:30Z

Uzi

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	During the shootout in "Garden of Eden" several of FBI commandos carry [[Uzi]] SMGs.		During the shootout in "Garden of Eden" several of FBI commandos carry [[Uzi]] SMGs.
	[[File:Uzi Stock Removed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|IMI Uzi with stock removed - 9x19mm]]		[[File:Uzi Stock Removed.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|IMI Uzi with stock removed - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Uzi-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A commando ~~in center holds an~~ Uzi.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Uzi-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A commando with Uzi is seen at the background.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Uzi-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A commando with Uzi accompanies Roper. Note the strange red-painted magazine.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Uzi-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A commando with Uzi accompanies Roper. Note the strange red-painted magazine.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Uzi-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A commando with Uzi runs under heavy fire.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Uzi-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A commando with Uzi runs under heavy fire.]]

			== Mini Uzi ==
			When the commandos are seen in a boat prior to attack, the supposedly same character holds a [[Mini Uzi]].
			[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|IMI Mini Uzi with stock folded - 9x19mm]]
			[[File:Never Say Die-Uzi-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A commando in center holds an Mini Uzi.]]

	= Shotguns =		= Shotguns =

Greg-Z: /* Assault Rifles */

2017-01-29T11:25:04Z

Assault Rifles

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	= Assault Rifles =		= Assault Rifles =
	== ~~Unidentified M16 version~~ 1 ==		== Customized AR-15 Version 1 ==
	During the attack on "Garden of Eden" Mike Roper ([[Todd Jensen]]) is armed with some version of M16, fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] grenade launcher. This gun has slickside upper receiver and full fence lower receiver. In a continuty error it switches to another version of M16 with grenade launcher (see below) and then back again.		During the attack on "Garden of Eden" Mike Roper ([[Todd Jensen]]) is armed with some version of M16, fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] grenade launcher. This custom gun has slickside upper receiver and full fence lower receiver. In a continuty error it switches to another version of M16 with grenade launcher (see below) and then back again.
	[[File:Never Say Die-M16-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Roper holds his M16 with Cobray CM203 while in helicopter.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-M16-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Roper holds his M16 with Cobray CM203 while in helicopter.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-M16-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A closeup of the barrel and the launcher.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-M16-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A closeup of the barrel and the launcher.]]
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	[[File:Never Say Die-M16-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|One more view of Roper's rifle.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-M16-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|One more view of Roper's rifle.]]

	== ~~Unidentified M16 version~~ 2 ==		== Customized AR-15 Version 2 ==
	In a continuty error Roper's M16A1 switches to a different version of M16 that has A1 upper receiver and slabside lower receiver. A CM203 launcher is also mounted on this rifle but the exact item is different. The same UBGL-fitted gun is later used by a police officer. M16s of same version are used by FBI agents in several scenes.		In a continuty error Roper's M16A1 switches to a different version of M16 that has A1 upper receiver and slabside lower receiver. A CM203 launcher is also mounted on this rifle but the exact item is different. The same UBGL-fitted gun is later used by a police officer. M16s of same version are used by FBI agents in several scenes.
	[[File:Never Say Die-M16-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Roper holds a different M16 that has A1 upper receiver and slabside lower receiver. The grenade launcher is also different as it has the trigger guard on place.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-M16-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Roper holds a different M16 that has A1 upper receiver and slabside lower receiver. The grenade launcher is also different as it has the trigger guard on place.]]
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	[[File:Never Say Die-M16-37.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A police officer hold the CM203-fitted M16 that appears to be the same prop, earlier used by Roper.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-M16-37.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A police officer hold the CM203-fitted M16 that appears to be the same prop, earlier used by Roper.]]

	== Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine ~~(Customized)~~ ==		== Customized Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine ==
	In the second half of the movie Mike Roper ([[Todd Jensen]]) is armed with an AR-15 carbine. Same looking gun is seen in hands of a commando during the attack on "Garden of Eden". It appears to be [[Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine]] with custom barrel, shortened from standard 16" to about 10.5-11".		In the second half of the movie Mike Roper ([[Todd Jensen]]) is armed with an AR-15 carbine. Same looking gun is seen in hands of a commando during the attack on "Garden of Eden". It appears to be [[Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine]] with custom barrel, shortened from standard 16" to about 10.5-11".
	[[Image:Colt-Sporter-I-Carbine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Colt Sporter I Carbine - 5.56x45mm. Colt's public offering of a lightweight carbine based on the AR-15 Platform. This rifle has been erroneously called "the M16 Shorty" for years by Law Enforcement and Firearms "authors". The "M16 Shorty" or "Shorty Carbine" have never been authorized or used names for the rifle by Colt or the Government.]]		[[Image:Colt-Sporter-I-Carbine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Colt Sporter I Carbine - 5.56x45mm. Colt's public offering of a lightweight carbine based on the AR-15 Platform. This rifle has been erroneously called "the M16 Shorty" for years by Law Enforcement and Firearms "authors". The "M16 Shorty" or "Shorty Carbine" have never been authorized or used names for the rifle by Colt or the Government.]]
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	[[File:Never Say Die-AK-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A cult member holds an AKS during the shootout.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-AK-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A cult member holds an AKS during the shootout.]]

	== ~~Unidentified assault rifle~~ ==		== Customized IMI Romat ==
	One of the FBI commandos is armed with an ~~unidentified~~ assault rifle~~. It~~ is a relatively compact weapon with handguard and forend of the stock in [[IMI Romat]] style but with a short barrel, lacking any flash hider, and with a long stick magazine ~~that looks too slender for 7.62x51~~.		One of the FBI commandos is armed with an assault rifle that is a relatively compact weapon with handguard and forend of the stock in [[IMI Romat]] style but with a short barrel, lacking any flash hider, and with a long stick magazine, supposedly 30-round, similar in shape and size with the one of [[FN FALO\|L2A1]] version.
	[[Image:Fal13-1-.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: Israeli FAL "Romat" with Wooden Furniture - 7.62x51mm NATO]]		[[Image:Fal13-1-.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: Israeli FAL "Romat" with Wooden Furniture - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Unknown1-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Unknown1-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]

KINKI'boy: /* AKS-47 */

2017-01-29T08:15:04Z

AKS-47

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	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-11.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Cult members fire R5s.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-11.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Cult members fire R5s.]]

	== ~~AKS-47~~ ==		== AKMS ==
	Some genuine [[~~AKS-47~~]]s are also seen in several scenes. In flashback James (at that time Sgt. Franklin James) ([[Billy Drago]]) and Blake (at that time Corp. Blake) ([[Frank Zagarino]]) both use ~~AKS-47s~~. An AKS is seen in hands of a cult member during the shootout in "Garden of Eden".		Some genuine [[AKMS]]s are also seen in several scenes. In flashback James (at that time Sgt. Franklin James) ([[Billy Drago]]) and Blake (at that time Corp. Blake) ([[Frank Zagarino]]) both use AKMSs. An AKS is seen in hands of a cult member during the shootout in "Garden of Eden".
	[[Image:~~AKS-47~~.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|~~Type III AKS-47 with stock folded~~ - 7.62x39mm]]		[[Image:AKMS.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|AKMS - 7.62x39mm]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-AK-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|James fires his AKS in flashback scene. The quality is intentionally low as the scene appears as Blake's vague memories.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-AK-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|James fires his AKS in flashback scene. The quality is intentionally low as the scene appears as Blake's vague memories.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-AK-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[File:Never Say Die-AK-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]

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	== Vektor R5 (visually modified) ==		== Vektor R5 (visually modified) ==
	[[Vektor R5]] assault rifles, visually modified to look like [[AKS-47]], are used by James' henchmen, including Amos ([[John Simon Jones]]) and Jacob ([[Phillip Ferreria]]). Such mockups are often seen in South African films.		=== Version 1 ===
			[[Vektor R5]] assault rifles, visually modified to look like [[AKS-47]], are used by James' henchmen, including Amos ([[John Simon Jones]]) and Jacob ([[Phillip Ferreria]]). In flashback James (at that time Sgt. Franklin James) ([[Billy Drago]]) and Blake (at that time Corp. Blake) ([[Frank Zagarino]]) both use fake AKs. Such mockups are often seen in South African films.
	[[Image:VektorR5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Vektor R5 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]		[[Image:VektorR5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Vektor R5 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
			[[Image:AKMS.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: AKMS - 7.62x39mm]]
			[[File:Never Say Die-AK-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|James (at that time Sgt. Franklin James) ([[Billy Drago]]) fires his AKS in flashback scene. The quality is intentionally low as the scene appears as Blake's vague memories.]]
			[[File:Never Say Die-Still-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Billy Drago holds a fake AK on promotion still.]]
			[[File:Never Say Die-AK-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			[[File:Never Say Die-AK-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Closeups of firing fake AK in flashback scene.]]
			[[File:Never Say Die-AK-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A view from another side. The bolt handle is non-standard.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Angel gives fake AKs to Amos and Jacob.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Angel gives fake AKs to Amos and Jacob.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-8.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Amos and Jacob fire their guns.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-8.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Amos and Jacob fire their guns.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A closeup of Amos' fake AKS.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-9.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A closeup of Amos' fake AKS.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-12.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Jacob runs with fake AKS.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-12.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Jacob runs with fake AKS.]]
			[[File:Never Say Die-AK-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A cult member holds a fake AKS during the shootout. This gun obviously has a 7.62x39 magazine, but it is too long and skinny, and it looks like the whole weapon is curved like it is made of rubber, so this is probably a prop gun.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-23.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Amos surprises Roper in the climactic scene.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-23.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Amos surprises Roper in the climactic scene.]]
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-25.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A closeup of the barrel.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-25.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A closeup of the barrel.]]
			=== Version 2 ===
	Angel's ([[Robin Smith]]) main weapon is a different version of mocked up R5, fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] underbarrel launcher. Angel's rifle is briefly used by Amos while Angel drives a boat during the chase on the lake.		Angel's ([[Robin Smith]]) main weapon is a different version of mocked up R5, fitted with [[Cobray CM203]] underbarrel launcher. Angel's rifle is briefly used by Amos while Angel drives a boat during the chase on the lake.
	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-14.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Angel holds his gun. Note that the lower handguard is replaced with what appears to be a pump of [[Mossberg 500]].]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-14.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Angel holds his gun. Note that the lower handguard is replaced with what appears to be a pump of [[Mossberg 500]].]]

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	[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-11.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Cult members fire R5s.]]		[[File:Never Say Die-Vektor-11.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Cult members fire R5s.]]

	~~== AKMS ==~~
	Some genuine [[AKMS]]s are also seen in several scenes. In flashback James (at that time Sgt. Franklin James) ([[Billy Drago]]) and Blake (at that time Corp. Blake) ([[Frank Zagarino]]) both use AKMSs. An AKS is seen in hands of a cult member during the shootout in "Garden of Eden".
	~~[[Image:AKMS.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|AKMS - 7.62x39mm]]~~
	~~[[File:Never Say Die-AK-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|James fires his AKS in flashback scene. The quality is intentionally low as the scene appears as Blake's vague memories.]]~~
	~~[[File:Never Say Die-AK-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]~~
	~~[[File:Never Say Die-AK-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Closeups of firing AK.]]~~
	~~[[File:Never Say Die-AK-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A view from another side. The bolt handle is non-standard.]]~~
	~~[[File:Never Say Die-AK-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A cult member holds an AKS during the shootout.]]~~

	== Customized IMI Romat ==		== Customized IMI Romat ==