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JaredChastain1: /* Remington 1858 New Army */

2020-09-02T21:50:20Z

Remington 1858 New Army

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	The [[Remington 1858 New Army]] is seen carried by several characters including Jim Vance ([[Tom Berenger]]) and "Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]). The particular Remington that "Devil" Anse carries throughout the miniseries is a brass-framed model. This is not historically correct, as there were never any brass-framed Remingtons manufactured. The gun in question is a modern unauthentic replica of the Remington by Pietta of Italy known as the "Texas Model". Furthermore, as is revealed in a close up of the gun in Episode 3, the gun appears to have been converted to fire metallic cartridges, as it lacks percussion nipples and has a relief cut into the recoil shield to facilitate the loading of cartridges. This is yet another goof on the filmmakers' part as it was never done in the 19th century. Converting brass-framed percussion revolvers to fire cartridges is generally impractical and discouraged due to the weakness of the brass frame and it's inability to even withstand the pressure of repeated use of stout loose powder and ball loads, let alone from a metallic cartridge, which would cause the gun to shoot loose rather quickly, thus decreasing the shooting life of the firearm immensely. Such conversions on brass framed firearms, however, are feasible when using more anemic, lower-powered cartridges such as .38 S&W (which is what this gun appears to be converted to use) and when using blank cartridges, as the pressure generated by blanks is negligible, which explains how this particular gun made it through filming intact.		The [[Remington 1858 New Army]] is seen carried by several characters including Jim Vance ([[Tom Berenger]]) and "Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]). The particular Remington that "Devil" Anse carries throughout the miniseries is a brass-framed model. This is not historically correct, as there were never any brass-framed Remingtons manufactured. The gun in question is a modern unauthentic replica of the Remington by Pietta of Italy known as the "Texas Model". Furthermore, as is revealed in a close up of the gun in Episode 3, the gun appears to have been converted to fire metallic cartridges, as it lacks percussion nipples and has a relief cut into the recoil shield to facilitate the loading of cartridges. This is yet another goof on the filmmakers' part as it was never done in the 19th century. Converting brass-framed percussion revolvers to fire cartridges is generally impractical and discouraged due to the weakness of the brass frame and it's inability to even withstand the pressure of repeated use of stout loose powder and ball loads, let alone from a metallic cartridge, which would cause the gun to shoot loose rather quickly, thus decreasing the shooting life of the firearm immensely. Such conversions on brass framed firearms, however, are feasible when using more anemic, lower-powered cartridges such as .38 S&W (which is what this gun appears to be converted to use) and when using blank cartridges, as the pressure generated by blanks is negligible, which explains how this particular gun made it through filming intact.
	[[Image:Remington1858-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Remington Model 1858 .44 caliber.]]		[[Image:Remington1858-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Remington Model 1858 .44 caliber.]]
			[[Image:Remington1858brassframe.jpeg‎\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Remington 1858 New Army (with a brass frame) - .44 Percussion]]
	[[File:Hatfields&Mccoys-DevilAnseRemington-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|"Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]) draws his Remington. Note the brass frame.]]		[[File:Hatfields&Mccoys-DevilAnseRemington-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|"Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]) draws his Remington. Note the brass frame.]]
	[[File:Hatfields&Mccoys-DevilAnseRemington-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|"Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]) cocks the Remington. Note the lack of percussion nipples, the modified hammer, and the relief cut into the recoil shield, indicating that the gun has been converted to fire cartridges.]]		[[File:Hatfields&Mccoys-DevilAnseRemington-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|"Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]) cocks the Remington. Note the lack of percussion nipples, the modified hammer, and the relief cut into the recoil shield, indicating that the gun has been converted to fire cartridges.]]

JaredChastain1: /* Remington 1858 New Army */

2020-09-02T13:09:23Z

Remington 1858 New Army

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	== Remington 1858 New Army ==		== Remington 1858 New Army ==
	The [[Remington 1858 New Army]] is seen carried by several characters including Jim Vance ([[Tom Berenger]]) and "Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]). The particular Remington that "Devil" Anse carries throughout the miniseries is a brass-framed model. This is not historically correct, as there were never any brass-framed Remingtons manufactured. The gun in question is a modern unauthentic replica of the Remington by Pietta of Italy known as the "Texas Model". Furthermore, in a close up of the gun in Episode 3, the gun appears to have been converted to fire metallic cartridges, as it lacks percussion nipples and has a relief cut into the recoil shield to facilitate the loading of cartridges. This is yet another goof on the filmmakers' part as it was never done in the 19th century. Converting brass-framed percussion revolvers to fire cartridges is generally impractical and discouraged due to the weakness of the brass frame and it's inability to even withstand the pressure of repeated use of stout loose powder and ball loads, let alone from a metallic cartridge, which would cause the gun to shoot loose rather quickly, thus decreasing the shooting life of the firearm immensely. Such conversions on brass framed firearms, however, are feasible when using more anemic, lower-powered cartridges such as .38 S&W (which is what this gun appears to be converted to use) and when using blank cartridges, as the pressure generated by blanks is negligible, which explains how this particular gun made it through filming intact.		The [[Remington 1858 New Army]] is seen carried by several characters including Jim Vance ([[Tom Berenger]]) and "Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]). The particular Remington that "Devil" Anse carries throughout the miniseries is a brass-framed model. This is not historically correct, as there were never any brass-framed Remingtons manufactured. The gun in question is a modern unauthentic replica of the Remington by Pietta of Italy known as the "Texas Model". Furthermore, as is revealed in a close up of the gun in Episode 3, the gun appears to have been converted to fire metallic cartridges, as it lacks percussion nipples and has a relief cut into the recoil shield to facilitate the loading of cartridges. This is yet another goof on the filmmakers' part as it was never done in the 19th century. Converting brass-framed percussion revolvers to fire cartridges is generally impractical and discouraged due to the weakness of the brass frame and it's inability to even withstand the pressure of repeated use of stout loose powder and ball loads, let alone from a metallic cartridge, which would cause the gun to shoot loose rather quickly, thus decreasing the shooting life of the firearm immensely. Such conversions on brass framed firearms, however, are feasible when using more anemic, lower-powered cartridges such as .38 S&W (which is what this gun appears to be converted to use) and when using blank cartridges, as the pressure generated by blanks is negligible, which explains how this particular gun made it through filming intact.
	[[Image:Remington1858-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Remington Model 1858 .44 caliber.]]		[[Image:Remington1858-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Remington Model 1858 .44 caliber.]]
	[[File:Hatfields&Mccoys-DevilAnseRemington-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|"Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]) draws his Remington. Note the brass frame.]]		[[File:Hatfields&Mccoys-DevilAnseRemington-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|"Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]) draws his Remington. Note the brass frame.]]

JaredChastain1 at 12:05, 2 September 2020

2020-09-02T12:05:20Z

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	== Remington 1858 New Army ==		== Remington 1858 New Army ==
	The [[Remington 1858 New Army]] is seen carried by several characters including Jim Vance ([[Tom Berenger]]) and "Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]).		The [[Remington 1858 New Army]] is seen carried by several characters including Jim Vance ([[Tom Berenger]]) and "Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]). The particular Remington that "Devil" Anse carries throughout the miniseries is a brass-framed model. This is not historically correct, as there were never any brass-framed Remingtons manufactured. The gun in question is a modern unauthentic replica of the Remington by Pietta of Italy known as the "Texas Model". Furthermore, in a close up of the gun in Episode 3, the gun appears to have been converted to fire metallic cartridges, as it lacks percussion nipples and has a relief cut into the recoil shield to facilitate the loading of cartridges. This is yet another goof on the filmmakers' part as it was never done in the 19th century. Converting brass-framed percussion revolvers to fire cartridges is generally impractical and discouraged due to the weakness of the brass frame and it's inability to even withstand the pressure of repeated use of stout loose powder and ball loads, let alone from a metallic cartridge, which would cause the gun to shoot loose rather quickly, thus decreasing the shooting life of the firearm immensely. Such conversions on brass framed firearms, however, are feasible when using more anemic, lower-powered cartridges such as .38 S&W (which is what this gun appears to be converted to use) and when using blank cartridges, as the pressure generated by blanks is negligible, which explains how this particular gun made it through filming intact.
	[[Image:Remington1858-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Remington Model 1858 .44 caliber.]]		[[Image:Remington1858-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Remington Model 1858 .44 caliber.]]
	[[File:HM01 04.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Jim Vance ([[Tom Berenger]]) pulls his ~~revolver~~ on some Union soldiers.]]		[[File:Hatfields&Mccoys-DevilAnseRemington-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|"Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]) draws his Remington. Note the brass frame.]]
	[[File:HatMcE03 09.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Jim Vance ([[Tom Berenger]]) with the ~~revolver~~.]]		[[File:Hatfields&Mccoys-DevilAnseRemington-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|"Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]) cocks the Remington. Note the lack of percussion nipples, the modified hammer, and the relief cut into the recoil shield, indicating that the gun has been converted to fire cartridges.]]
			[[File:HM01 04.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Jim Vance ([[Tom Berenger]]) pulls his Remington on some Union soldiers.]]
			[[File:HatMcE03 09.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Jim Vance ([[Tom Berenger]]) with the Remington, which is evidently a cartridge conversion. Unlike the gun wielded by Devil Anse, this Remington is steel framed, and therefore historically correct.]]

	== Single Action Army Cavalry Model (7.5" barrel) ==		== Single Action Army Cavalry Model (7.5" barrel) ==

Ben41 at 01:46, 3 August 2016

2016-08-03T01:46:41Z

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	[[Image:HfMc.jpg\|thumb\|right\|300px\|''Hatfields & McCoys'' (2012)]]		[[Image:HfMc.jpg\|thumb\|right\|300px\|''Hatfields & McCoys'' (2012)]]

Ben41 at 21:12, 4 August 2015

2015-08-04T21:12:56Z

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	'''The following ~~firearms~~ were used in the miniseries ''~~Hatfields & McCoys~~'':'''
			'''The following weapons were used in the miniseries ''{{PAGENAME}}''''':
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	=Handguns=		=Handguns=
	== Remington 1858 New Army ==		== Remington 1858 New Army ==

KINKI'boy: /* Winchester Model 1873 */

2014-05-19T01:03:14Z

Winchester Model 1873

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	== Winchester Model 1873 ==		== Winchester Model 1873 ==
	The [[Winchester Model 1873]] rifle is a prominent rifle used by members of both families.		The [[Winchester Model 1873]] rifle is a prominent rifle used by members of both families.
	[[Image:~~Winchester1873short~~.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|~~The~~ 1873 ~~"Short Rifle" model with octagon barrel~~]]		[[Image:Winchester1873.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Winchester Model 1873 carbine - 1st generation rifle - 44-40 Cal.]]
	[[File:HatMcE03_10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The rifle is fired.]]		[[File:HatMcE03_10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The rifle is fired.]]
	[[File:HatMcE03_19.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Devil holds the rifle.]]		[[File:HatMcE03_19.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Devil holds the rifle.]]

KINKI'boy: /* Remington Rolling Block */

2014-05-19T01:00:41Z

Remington Rolling Block

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	[[File:HM01 01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|"Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]) along with other Confederate troops carry the rifle during a battle.]]		[[File:HM01 01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|"Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]) along with other Confederate troops carry the rifle during a battle.]]

	== Remington Rolling Block ==		== Remington Model 1867 Rolling Block Carbine ==
	Also used is the [[Remington Rolling Block]] rifle.		Also used is the [[Remington Rolling Block]] rifle.
	‎[[File:~~RemingtonRBLOCK~~.~~gif~~\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Remington ~~No. 1~~ Rolling Block - .~~.22 rimfire~~]]		‎[[File:Remington Model 1867 Rolling Block Carbine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Remington Model 1867 Rolling Block Carbine - .50-45]]
	[[File:HatMcE02_03.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]		[[File:HatMcE02_03.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]

Ben41: /* 12 Gauge Double-barreled Side-by-Side Shotgun */

2013-09-23T08:54:07Z

12 Gauge Double-barreled Side-by-Side Shotgun

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	The [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] is another firearm used by members of both families.		The [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] is another firearm used by members of both families.
	[[Image:CharlesParker1878Shotgun.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Charles Parker 1878 Side by Side Shotgun - 12 Gauge. The Parker Gun Company was absorbed into Remington in 1934.]]		[[Image:CharlesParker1878Shotgun.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Charles Parker 1878 Side by Side Shotgun - 12 Gauge. The Parker Gun Company was absorbed into Remington in 1934.]]
	[[File:HatMcE03_02.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]		[[File:HatMcE03_02.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Ellison "Cotton Top" Mounts ([[Noel Fisher]]) holds the shotgun.]]

Ben41: /* Winchester Model 1873 */

2013-09-23T08:53:13Z

Winchester Model 1873

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	The [[Winchester Model 1873]] rifle is a prominent rifle used by members of both families.		The [[Winchester Model 1873]] rifle is a prominent rifle used by members of both families.
	[[Image:Winchester1873short.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|The 1873 "Short Rifle" model with octagon barrel]]		[[Image:Winchester1873short.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|The 1873 "Short Rifle" model with octagon barrel]]
	[[File:HatMcE03_10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]		[[File:HatMcE03_10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The rifle is fired.]]
	[[File:HatMcE03_19.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]		[[File:HatMcE03_19.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Devil holds the rifle.]]

	=Shotguns=		=Shotguns=

Ben41: /* Sharps 1859 Carbine */

2013-09-23T08:52:37Z

Sharps 1859 Carbine

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	The [[Sharps_Rifle#Sharps_1859_Carbine\|Sharps 1859 carbine]] is carried by "Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]).		The [[Sharps_Rifle#Sharps_1859_Carbine\|Sharps 1859 carbine]] is carried by "Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]).
	[[Image:Sharps 1859.jpg\|thumb\|450px\|none\|Sharps Model 1859 - .54 caliber]]		[[Image:Sharps 1859.jpg\|thumb\|450px\|none\|Sharps Model 1859 - .54 caliber]]
	[[File:HM01 06.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]		[[File:HM01 06.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The [[Sharps_Rifle#Sharps_1859_Carbine\|Sharps 1859 carbine]] is carried by "Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]).]]
	[[File:HatMcE01_06.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]		[[File:HatMcE01_06.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The [[Sharps_Rifle#Sharps_1859_Carbine\|Sharps 1859 carbine]] is carried by Jim Vance ([[Tom Berenger]]).]]

	== Winchester Model 1873 ==		== Winchester Model 1873 ==

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	The [[Remington 1858 New Army]] is seen carried by several characters including Jim Vance ([[Tom Berenger]]) and "Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]). The particular Remington that "Devil" Anse carries throughout the miniseries is a brass-framed model. This is not historically correct, as there were never any brass-framed Remingtons manufactured. The gun in question is a modern unauthentic replica of the Remington by Pietta of Italy known as the "Texas Model". Furthermore, as is revealed in a close up of the gun in Episode 3, the gun appears to have been converted to fire metallic cartridges, as it lacks percussion nipples and has a relief cut into the recoil shield to facilitate the loading of cartridges. This is yet another goof on the filmmakers' part as it was never done in the 19th century. Converting brass-framed percussion revolvers to fire cartridges is generally impractical and discouraged due to the weakness of the brass frame and it's inability to even withstand the pressure of repeated use of stout loose powder and ball loads, let alone from a metallic cartridge, which would cause the gun to shoot loose rather quickly, thus decreasing the shooting life of the firearm immensely. Such conversions on brass framed firearms, however, are feasible when using more anemic, lower-powered cartridges such as .38 S&W (which is what this gun appears to be converted to use) and when using blank cartridges, as the pressure generated by blanks is negligible, which explains how this particular gun made it through filming intact.		The [[Remington 1858 New Army]] is seen carried by several characters including Jim Vance ([[Tom Berenger]]) and "Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]). The particular Remington that "Devil" Anse carries throughout the miniseries is a brass-framed model. This is not historically correct, as there were never any brass-framed Remingtons manufactured. The gun in question is a modern unauthentic replica of the Remington by Pietta of Italy known as the "Texas Model". Furthermore, as is revealed in a close up of the gun in Episode 3, the gun appears to have been converted to fire metallic cartridges, as it lacks percussion nipples and has a relief cut into the recoil shield to facilitate the loading of cartridges. This is yet another goof on the filmmakers' part as it was never done in the 19th century. Converting brass-framed percussion revolvers to fire cartridges is generally impractical and discouraged due to the weakness of the brass frame and it's inability to even withstand the pressure of repeated use of stout loose powder and ball loads, let alone from a metallic cartridge, which would cause the gun to shoot loose rather quickly, thus decreasing the shooting life of the firearm immensely. Such conversions on brass framed firearms, however, are feasible when using more anemic, lower-powered cartridges such as .38 S&W (which is what this gun appears to be converted to use) and when using blank cartridges, as the pressure generated by blanks is negligible, which explains how this particular gun made it through filming intact.
	[[Image:Remington1858-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Remington Model 1858 .44 caliber.]]		[[Image:Remington1858-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Remington Model 1858 .44 caliber.]]
			[[Image:Remington1858brassframe.jpeg‎\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Remington 1858 New Army (with a brass frame) - .44 Percussion]]
	[[File:Hatfields&Mccoys-DevilAnseRemington-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|"Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]) draws his Remington. Note the brass frame.]]		[[File:Hatfields&Mccoys-DevilAnseRemington-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|"Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]) draws his Remington. Note the brass frame.]]
	[[File:Hatfields&Mccoys-DevilAnseRemington-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|"Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]) cocks the Remington. Note the lack of percussion nipples, the modified hammer, and the relief cut into the recoil shield, indicating that the gun has been converted to fire cartridges.]]		[[File:Hatfields&Mccoys-DevilAnseRemington-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|"Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]) cocks the Remington. Note the lack of percussion nipples, the modified hammer, and the relief cut into the recoil shield, indicating that the gun has been converted to fire cartridges.]]

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	The [[Sharps_Rifle#Sharps_1859_Carbine\|Sharps 1859 carbine]] is carried by "Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]).		The [[Sharps_Rifle#Sharps_1859_Carbine\|Sharps 1859 carbine]] is carried by "Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]).
	[[Image:Sharps 1859.jpg\|thumb\|450px\|none\|Sharps Model 1859 - .54 caliber]]		[[Image:Sharps 1859.jpg\|thumb\|450px\|none\|Sharps Model 1859 - .54 caliber]]
	[[File:HM01 06.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]		[[File:HM01 06.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The [[Sharps_Rifle#Sharps_1859_Carbine\|Sharps 1859 carbine]] is carried by "Devil" Anse Hatfield ([[Kevin Costner]]).]]
	[[File:HatMcE01_06.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]		[[File:HatMcE01_06.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The [[Sharps_Rifle#Sharps_1859_Carbine\|Sharps 1859 carbine]] is carried by Jim Vance ([[Tom Berenger]]).]]

	== Winchester Model 1873 ==		== Winchester Model 1873 ==