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Mateogala: /* Erma EMP */

2023-08-11T10:00:57Z

Erma EMP

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	[[File:Cuba-1979-EMP35-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A female guerilla fighter holds a Erma SMG. She also carries a [[Mills Bomb]] on her belt.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-EMP35-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A female guerilla fighter holds a Erma SMG. She also carries a [[Mills Bomb]] on her belt.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-EMP35-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A worker at the tobacco factory holds an Erma.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-EMP35-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A worker at the tobacco factory holds an Erma.]]
	In one scene, a guerrilla fighter fires a submachine gun that resembles the experimental Vollmer~~-Erma~~ VMP ~~1930~~, but it is most likely an EMP with the barrel shroud removed.		In one scene, a guerrilla fighter fires a submachine gun that resembles the experimental [[Erma_EMP#Vollmer_VMP\|Vollmer VMP 1928]], but it is most likely an EMP with the barrel shroud removed.
	[[File:Vollmer-Erma VMP 1930.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: Vollmer~~-Erma~~ VMP ~~1930~~ - 9x19mm ~~Par~~]]		[[File:Vollmer-Erma VMP 1930.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: Vollmer VMP 1928 - 9x19mm.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A closer view of the muzzle.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A closer view of the muzzle.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A guerilla fighter fires.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A guerilla fighter fires.]]

Get Em Puppy: /* Bergmann MP35/I */ Star Z-45 rather than a Bergmann.

2023-07-06T15:43:58Z

Bergmann MP35/I: Star Z-45 rather than a Bergmann.

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	[[File:Cuba-1979-Madsen-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-Madsen-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]

	== ~~Bergmann MP35/I~~ ==		== Star Z-45 ==
	A [[~~Bergmann MP35/I~~]] is seen in the same footage.		A [[Star Z-45]] is seen in the same footage.
	[[Image:~~MP35~~.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|~~Bergmann MP35/I~~]]		[[Image:STAR_Z45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Star Z-45 with folding stock - 9x23mm Largo]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-MP35-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-MP35-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]

Slon95 at 22:15, 4 August 2021

2021-08-04T22:15:22Z

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	{{Infobox Movie		{{Infobox Movie
	\|name = Cuba		\|name = Cuba

TheExplodingBarrel: /* M1928A1/M1A1-Like Version */

2021-08-04T21:00:12Z

M1928A1/M1A1-Like Version

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	== Labora Fontbernat M1938 (Modified as Thompson-Style Submachine Guns) ==		== Labora Fontbernat M1938 (Modified as Thompson-Style Submachine Guns) ==
	=== M1928A1/M1A1-Like Version ===		=== M1928A1/M1A1-Like Version ===
	Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble both M1928A1 and M1(A1) [[Thompson]]s, with "box-shape" sights and barrels of the first, but with a side cocking handle of the second. Their general look allows to guess that they must be modified [[Labora Fontbernat M1938]] SMGs (also, their magazines are of a completely non-~~standart~~ shape, which suggests that they are also adapted to launch the blank cartritges of unknown type). See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.		Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble both M1928A1 and M1(A1) [[Thompson]]s, with "box-shape" sights and barrels of the first, but with a side cocking handle of the second. Their general look allows to guess that they must be modified [[Labora Fontbernat M1938]] SMGs (also, their magazines are of a completely non-standard shape, which suggests that they are also adapted to launch the blank cartritges of unknown type). See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.
	[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]		[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]
	[[File:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator - .45 ACP]]		[[File:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator - .45 ACP]]

Slon95: /* Labora Fontbernat M1938 (Modified as Thompson-Style Submachine Guns) */

2021-08-04T20:18:34Z

Labora Fontbernat M1938 (Modified as Thompson-Style Submachine Guns)

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	== Labora Fontbernat M1938 (Modified as Thompson-Style Submachine Guns) ==		== Labora Fontbernat M1938 (Modified as Thompson-Style Submachine Guns) ==
	=== M1928A1/M1A1-Like Version ===		=== M1928A1/M1A1-Like Version ===
	Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble both M1928A1 and M1(A1) [[Thompson]]s, with "box-shape" sights and barrels of the first, but with a side cocking handle of the second. Their general look allows to guess that they must be modified Labora Fontbernat M1938 SMGs (also, their magazines are of a completely non-standart shape, which suggests that they are also adapted to launch the blank cartritges of unknown type). See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.		Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble both M1928A1 and M1(A1) [[Thompson]]s, with "box-shape" sights and barrels of the first, but with a side cocking handle of the second. Their general look allows to guess that they must be modified [[Labora Fontbernat M1938]] SMGs (also, their magazines are of a completely non-standart shape, which suggests that they are also adapted to launch the blank cartritges of unknown type). See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.
	[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]		[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]
	[[File:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator - .45 ACP]]		[[File:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator - .45 ACP]]

Slon95: /* Made For Movie Thompson-Style Submachine Guns */

2021-04-01T16:03:04Z

Made For Movie Thompson-Style Submachine Guns

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	[[File:Cuba-1979-UDM42-0.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A UD M42 is seen in a promotion still.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-UDM42-0.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A UD M42 is seen in a promotion still.]]

	== ~~Made For Movie~~ Thompson-Style Submachine Guns ==		== Labora Fontbernat M1938 (Modified as Thompson-Style Submachine Guns) ==
	=== M1928A1/M1A1-Like Version ===		=== M1928A1/M1A1-Like Version ===
	Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble both M1928A1 and M1(A1) [[Thompson]]s, with "box-shape" sights and barrels of the first, but with a side cocking handle of the second. ~~These~~ SMGs ~~have been used in~~ a ~~number of other Spanish films and, apparently~~, are ~~replicas made specifically for cinema that imitate firing~~. See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.		Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble both M1928A1 and M1(A1) [[Thompson]]s, with "box-shape" sights and barrels of the first, but with a side cocking handle of the second. Their general look allows to guess that they must be modified Labora Fontbernat M1938 SMGs (also, their magazines are of a completely non-standart shape, which suggests that they are also adapted to launch the blank cartritges of unknown type). See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.
	[[File:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator - .45 ACP]]		[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]
			[[File:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator - .45 ACP]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson M1928A1 at the left and an another SMG at the right.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson M1928A1 at the left and an another SMG at the right.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson is seen in the center, next to a Mauser rifle.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson is seen in the center, next to a Mauser rifle.]]
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	[[File:Cuba-1979-Thompson-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another guerilla holds a fake Thompson in the final scene at the airport.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-Thompson-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another guerilla holds a fake Thompson in the final scene at the airport.]]

	=== M1921/M1928-~~like~~ version ~~(Modified Labora Fontbernat M1938)~~ ===		=== M1921/M1928-Like version ===
	Guerilla fighters also carry SMGs that have Thompson-style foregrips, pistol grips, and rear sight guards but differ in having a large space between the trigger guard and magazine well. ~~Such SMGs~~ are ~~seen in some other Spanish filmed movies, like ''[[From_Hell_to_Victory#Unidentified_submachine_gun\|''From Hell to Victory'']]''. Their general look allows to guess that they may be visually~~ modified ~~Labora Fontbernat M1938~~ SMGs ~~(however~~, ~~the magazines are of a completely different shape~~, ~~similar to~~ the ~~guns above~~, ~~which suggests that~~ they ~~are also adapted to launch the same blank cartritges of unknown type). See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for further discussion of these guns~~.		Guerilla fighters also carry SMGs that have Thompson-style foregrips, pistol grips, and rear sight guards but differ in having a large space between the trigger guard and magazine well. These guns are also modified М1938 SMGs, but, unlike the first version, they have much fewer changes.
	[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]		[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]
	[[Image:~~M1928~~.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: ~~M1928 "Tommy Gun" or "Chicago typewriter"~~ with 50-round ~~drum~~ magazine - .45 ACP]]		[[Image:Colt1921AC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: Colt M1921AC Thompson with 20-round magazine - .45 ACP.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson at the left, an the "second" SMG at the right.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson at the left, an the "second" SMG at the right.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another one of these mysterious SMGs is seen at the left.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another one of these mysterious SMGs is seen at the left.]]

Slon95: /* Unknown Thompson-Style Submachine Guns */

2021-03-31T19:42:51Z

Unknown Thompson-Style Submachine Guns

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	[[File:Cuba-1979-UDM42-0.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A UD M42 is seen in a promotion still.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-UDM42-0.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A UD M42 is seen in a promotion still.]]

	== ~~Unknown~~ Thompson-Style Submachine Guns ==		== Made For Movie Thompson-Style Submachine Guns ==
	=== M1928A1/M1A1-Like Version ===		=== M1928A1/M1A1-Like Version ===
	Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble both M1928A1 and M1(A1) [[Thompson]]s, with "box-shape" sights and barrels of the first, but with a side cocking handle of the second. These SMGs have been used in a number of other Spanish films and, apparently, are replicas made specifically for cinema that imitate firing. See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.		Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble both M1928A1 and M1(A1) [[Thompson]]s, with "box-shape" sights and barrels of the first, but with a side cocking handle of the second. These SMGs have been used in a number of other Spanish films and, apparently, are replicas made specifically for cinema that imitate firing. See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.
	[[File:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator - .45 ACP]]		[[File:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator - .45 ACP]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson M1928A1 at the left and an ~~unknown~~ SMG at the right.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson M1928A1 at the left and an another SMG at the right.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson is seen in the center, next to a Mauser rifle.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson is seen in the center, next to a Mauser rifle.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-Thompson-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A government soldier fires a fake Thompson during the attack on the train.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-Thompson-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A government soldier fires a fake Thompson during the attack on the train.]]

Slon95: /* M1921/M1928-like version */

2021-03-31T19:38:43Z

M1921/M1928-like version

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	[[File:Cuba-1979-Thompson-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another guerilla holds a fake Thompson in the final scene at the airport.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-Thompson-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another guerilla holds a fake Thompson in the final scene at the airport.]]

	=== M1921/M1928-like version ===		=== M1921/M1928-like version (Modified Labora Fontbernat M1938) ===
	Guerilla fighters also carry ~~unknown~~ SMGs that have Thompson-style foregrips, pistol grips, and rear sight guards but differ in having a large space between the trigger guard and magazine well. Such SMGs are seen in some other Spanish filmed movies, like ''[[From_Hell_to_Victory#Unidentified_submachine_gun\|''From Hell to Victory'']]''. Their general look allows to guess that they may be visually modified Labora Fontbernat M1938 SMGs (however, the magazines are of a completely different shape, similar to the guns above). See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for further discussion of these guns.		Guerilla fighters also carry SMGs that have Thompson-style foregrips, pistol grips, and rear sight guards but differ in having a large space between the trigger guard and magazine well. Such SMGs are seen in some other Spanish filmed movies, like ''[[From_Hell_to_Victory#Unidentified_submachine_gun\|''From Hell to Victory'']]''. Their general look allows to guess that they may be visually modified Labora Fontbernat M1938 SMGs (however, the magazines are of a completely different shape, similar to the guns above, which suggests that they are also adapted to launch the same blank cartritges of unknown type). See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for further discussion of these guns.
			[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]
	[[Image:M1928.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: M1928 "Tommy Gun" or "Chicago typewriter" with 50-round drum magazine - .45 ACP]]		[[Image:M1928.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: M1928 "Tommy Gun" or "Chicago typewriter" with 50-round drum magazine - .45 ACP]]
	~~[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]~~		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson at the left, an the "second" SMG at the right.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A Thompson at the left, an ~~unknown~~ SMG at the right.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another one of these mysterious SMGs is seen at the left.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another one of these mysterious SMGs is seen at the left.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-7.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|An ~~unknown~~ SMG is seen at the left.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-7.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|An SMG is seen at the left. The distinctive circular back of the M1938's receiver is clearly visible here.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|An ~~unknown~~ SMG is seen at the background.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|An SMG is seen at the background.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-12.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A guerilla fighter holds the mysterious SMG in the final scene in airport.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-12.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A guerilla fighter holds the mysterious SMG in the final scene in airport.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-13.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another view of the same gun.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-13.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another view of the same gun.]]

PyramidHead at 02:45, 5 December 2020

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Slon95: /* Unknown Thompson-style submachine guns */

2020-12-04T16:35:00Z

Unknown Thompson-style submachine guns

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	== Unknown Thompson-style submachine guns ==		== Unknown Thompson-style submachine guns ==
	=== M1928A1-like version ===		=== M1928A1/M1A1-like version ===
	Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble [[Thompson ~~M1928A1~~]]s. See [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.		Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble both M1928A1 and M1(A1) [[Thompson]]s, with "box-shape" sights and barrels of the first, but with a side cocking handle of the second. These SMGs have been used in a number of other Spanish films and, apparently, are replicas made specifically for cinema with imitation of firing. See [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.
	[[File:~~M1928A1 Thompson~~.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|~~For comparison: M1928A1~~ Thompson with 30-round magazine - .45 ACP~~. This specimen has the sling swivel relocated to the top of the stock, a modification often made to Thompsons in British service.~~]]		[[File:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator - .45 ACP]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson M1928A1 at the left, an unknown SMG at the right.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson M1928A1 at the left, an unknown SMG at the right.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson is seen in center, next to a Mauser rifle.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson is seen in center, next to a Mauser rifle.]]
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	=== M1921/M1928-like version ===		=== M1921/M1928-like version ===
	Guerilla fighters also carry unknown SMGs that have Thompson-style foregrips, pistol grips and rear sight guards but differs in having large space between the trigger guard and magazine well. Such SMGs are seen in some other Spanish filmed movies, like ''[[From_Hell_to_Victory#Unidentified_submachine_gun\|From Hell to Victory]]''. Their general view allows to guess that they are visually modified Labora Fontbernat M1938 SMGs. See [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for further discussion of these guns.		Guerilla fighters also carry unknown SMGs that have Thompson-style foregrips, pistol grips and rear sight guards but differs in having large space between the trigger guard and magazine well. Such SMGs are seen in some other Spanish filmed movies, like ''[[From_Hell_to_Victory#Unidentified_submachine_gun\|From Hell to Victory]]''. Their general view allows to guess that they are may be visually modified Labora Fontbernat M1938 SMGs (however, the magazines are of a completely different shape, similar to the guns above). See [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for further discussion of these guns.
	[[Image:M1928.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: M1928 "Tommy Gun" or "Chicago typewriter" with 50-round drum magazine - .45 ACP]]		[[Image:M1928.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: M1928 "Tommy Gun" or "Chicago typewriter" with 50-round drum magazine - .45 ACP]]
	[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]		[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]

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	[[File:Cuba-1979-EMP35-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A female guerilla fighter holds a Erma SMG. She also carries a [[Mills Bomb]] on her belt.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-EMP35-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A female guerilla fighter holds a Erma SMG. She also carries a [[Mills Bomb]] on her belt.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-EMP35-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A worker at the tobacco factory holds an Erma.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-EMP35-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A worker at the tobacco factory holds an Erma.]]
	In one scene, a guerrilla fighter fires a submachine gun that resembles the experimental Vollmer~~-Erma~~ VMP ~~1930~~, but it is most likely an EMP with the barrel shroud removed.		In one scene, a guerrilla fighter fires a submachine gun that resembles the experimental [[Erma_EMP#Vollmer_VMP\|Vollmer VMP 1928]], but it is most likely an EMP with the barrel shroud removed.
	[[File:Vollmer-Erma VMP 1930.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: Vollmer~~-Erma~~ VMP ~~1930~~ - 9x19mm ~~Par~~]]		[[File:Vollmer-Erma VMP 1930.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: Vollmer VMP 1928 - 9x19mm.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A closer view of the muzzle.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A closer view of the muzzle.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A guerilla fighter fires.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A guerilla fighter fires.]]

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	[[File:Cuba-1979-UDM42-0.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A UD M42 is seen in a promotion still.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-UDM42-0.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A UD M42 is seen in a promotion still.]]

	== ~~Made For Movie~~ Thompson-Style Submachine Guns ==		== Labora Fontbernat M1938 (Modified as Thompson-Style Submachine Guns) ==
	=== M1928A1/M1A1-Like Version ===		=== M1928A1/M1A1-Like Version ===
	Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble both M1928A1 and M1(A1) [[Thompson]]s, with "box-shape" sights and barrels of the first, but with a side cocking handle of the second. ~~These~~ SMGs ~~have been used in~~ a ~~number of other Spanish films and, apparently~~, are ~~replicas made specifically for cinema that imitate firing~~. See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.		Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble both M1928A1 and M1(A1) [[Thompson]]s, with "box-shape" sights and barrels of the first, but with a side cocking handle of the second. Their general look allows to guess that they must be modified Labora Fontbernat M1938 SMGs (also, their magazines are of a completely non-standart shape, which suggests that they are also adapted to launch the blank cartritges of unknown type). See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.
	[[File:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator - .45 ACP]]		[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]
			[[File:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator - .45 ACP]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson M1928A1 at the left and an another SMG at the right.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson M1928A1 at the left and an another SMG at the right.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson is seen in the center, next to a Mauser rifle.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson is seen in the center, next to a Mauser rifle.]]
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	[[File:Cuba-1979-Thompson-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another guerilla holds a fake Thompson in the final scene at the airport.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-Thompson-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another guerilla holds a fake Thompson in the final scene at the airport.]]

	=== M1921/M1928-~~like~~ version ~~(Modified Labora Fontbernat M1938)~~ ===		=== M1921/M1928-Like version ===
	Guerilla fighters also carry SMGs that have Thompson-style foregrips, pistol grips, and rear sight guards but differ in having a large space between the trigger guard and magazine well. ~~Such SMGs~~ are ~~seen in some other Spanish filmed movies, like ''[[From_Hell_to_Victory#Unidentified_submachine_gun\|''From Hell to Victory'']]''. Their general look allows to guess that they may be visually~~ modified ~~Labora Fontbernat M1938~~ SMGs ~~(however~~, ~~the magazines are of a completely different shape~~, ~~similar to~~ the ~~guns above~~, ~~which suggests that~~ they ~~are also adapted to launch the same blank cartritges of unknown type). See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for further discussion of these guns~~.		Guerilla fighters also carry SMGs that have Thompson-style foregrips, pistol grips, and rear sight guards but differ in having a large space between the trigger guard and magazine well. These guns are also modified М1938 SMGs, but, unlike the first version, they have much fewer changes.
	[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]		[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]
	[[Image:~~M1928~~.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: ~~M1928 "Tommy Gun" or "Chicago typewriter"~~ with 50-round ~~drum~~ magazine - .45 ACP]]		[[Image:Colt1921AC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: Colt M1921AC Thompson with 20-round magazine - .45 ACP.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson at the left, an the "second" SMG at the right.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson at the left, an the "second" SMG at the right.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another one of these mysterious SMGs is seen at the left.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another one of these mysterious SMGs is seen at the left.]]

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	[[File:Cuba-1979-UDM42-0.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A UD M42 is seen in a promotion still.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-UDM42-0.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A UD M42 is seen in a promotion still.]]

	== ~~Unknown~~ Thompson-Style Submachine Guns ==		== Made For Movie Thompson-Style Submachine Guns ==
	=== M1928A1/M1A1-Like Version ===		=== M1928A1/M1A1-Like Version ===
	Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble both M1928A1 and M1(A1) [[Thompson]]s, with "box-shape" sights and barrels of the first, but with a side cocking handle of the second. These SMGs have been used in a number of other Spanish films and, apparently, are replicas made specifically for cinema that imitate firing. See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.		Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble both M1928A1 and M1(A1) [[Thompson]]s, with "box-shape" sights and barrels of the first, but with a side cocking handle of the second. These SMGs have been used in a number of other Spanish films and, apparently, are replicas made specifically for cinema that imitate firing. See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.
	[[File:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator - .45 ACP]]		[[File:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator - .45 ACP]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson M1928A1 at the left and an ~~unknown~~ SMG at the right.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson M1928A1 at the left and an another SMG at the right.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson is seen in the center, next to a Mauser rifle.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson is seen in the center, next to a Mauser rifle.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-Thompson-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A government soldier fires a fake Thompson during the attack on the train.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-Thompson-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A government soldier fires a fake Thompson during the attack on the train.]]

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	[[File:Cuba-1979-Thompson-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another guerilla holds a fake Thompson in the final scene at the airport.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-Thompson-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another guerilla holds a fake Thompson in the final scene at the airport.]]

	=== M1921/M1928-like version ===		=== M1921/M1928-like version (Modified Labora Fontbernat M1938) ===
	Guerilla fighters also carry ~~unknown~~ SMGs that have Thompson-style foregrips, pistol grips, and rear sight guards but differ in having a large space between the trigger guard and magazine well. Such SMGs are seen in some other Spanish filmed movies, like ''[[From_Hell_to_Victory#Unidentified_submachine_gun\|''From Hell to Victory'']]''. Their general look allows to guess that they may be visually modified Labora Fontbernat M1938 SMGs (however, the magazines are of a completely different shape, similar to the guns above). See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for further discussion of these guns.		Guerilla fighters also carry SMGs that have Thompson-style foregrips, pistol grips, and rear sight guards but differ in having a large space between the trigger guard and magazine well. Such SMGs are seen in some other Spanish filmed movies, like ''[[From_Hell_to_Victory#Unidentified_submachine_gun\|''From Hell to Victory'']]''. Their general look allows to guess that they may be visually modified Labora Fontbernat M1938 SMGs (however, the magazines are of a completely different shape, similar to the guns above, which suggests that they are also adapted to launch the same blank cartritges of unknown type). See the [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for further discussion of these guns.
			[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]
	[[Image:M1928.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: M1928 "Tommy Gun" or "Chicago typewriter" with 50-round drum magazine - .45 ACP]]		[[Image:M1928.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: M1928 "Tommy Gun" or "Chicago typewriter" with 50-round drum magazine - .45 ACP]]
	~~[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]~~		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson at the left, an the "second" SMG at the right.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A Thompson at the left, an ~~unknown~~ SMG at the right.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another one of these mysterious SMGs is seen at the left.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another one of these mysterious SMGs is seen at the left.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-7.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|An ~~unknown~~ SMG is seen at the left.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-7.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|An SMG is seen at the left. The distinctive circular back of the M1938's receiver is clearly visible here.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|An ~~unknown~~ SMG is seen at the background.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-10.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|An SMG is seen at the background.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-12.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A guerilla fighter holds the mysterious SMG in the final scene in airport.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-12.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A guerilla fighter holds the mysterious SMG in the final scene in airport.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-13.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another view of the same gun.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-13.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Another view of the same gun.]]

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	== Unknown Thompson-style submachine guns ==		== Unknown Thompson-style submachine guns ==
	=== M1928A1-like version ===		=== M1928A1/M1A1-like version ===
	Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble [[Thompson ~~M1928A1~~]]s. See [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.		Guerilla fighters and government troops use submachine guns that resemble both M1928A1 and M1(A1) [[Thompson]]s, with "box-shape" sights and barrels of the first, but with a side cocking handle of the second. These SMGs have been used in a number of other Spanish films and, apparently, are replicas made specifically for cinema with imitation of firing. See [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for the discussion of these guns.
	[[File:~~M1928A1 Thompson~~.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|~~For comparison: M1928A1~~ Thompson with 30-round magazine - .45 ACP~~. This specimen has the sling swivel relocated to the top of the stock, a modification often made to Thompsons in British service.~~]]		[[File:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator - .45 ACP]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson M1928A1 at the left, an unknown SMG at the right.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson M1928A1 at the left, an unknown SMG at the right.]]
	[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson is seen in center, next to a Mauser rifle.]]		[[File:Cuba-1979-SMG-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A fake Thompson is seen in center, next to a Mauser rifle.]]
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	=== M1921/M1928-like version ===		=== M1921/M1928-like version ===
	Guerilla fighters also carry unknown SMGs that have Thompson-style foregrips, pistol grips and rear sight guards but differs in having large space between the trigger guard and magazine well. Such SMGs are seen in some other Spanish filmed movies, like ''[[From_Hell_to_Victory#Unidentified_submachine_gun\|From Hell to Victory]]''. Their general view allows to guess that they are visually modified Labora Fontbernat M1938 SMGs. See [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for further discussion of these guns.		Guerilla fighters also carry unknown SMGs that have Thompson-style foregrips, pistol grips and rear sight guards but differs in having large space between the trigger guard and magazine well. Such SMGs are seen in some other Spanish filmed movies, like ''[[From_Hell_to_Victory#Unidentified_submachine_gun\|From Hell to Victory]]''. Their general view allows to guess that they are may be visually modified Labora Fontbernat M1938 SMGs (however, the magazines are of a completely different shape, similar to the guns above). See [[Talk:Cuba\|talk page]] for further discussion of these guns.
	[[Image:M1928.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: M1928 "Tommy Gun" or "Chicago typewriter" with 50-round drum magazine - .45 ACP]]		[[Image:M1928.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: M1928 "Tommy Gun" or "Chicago typewriter" with 50-round drum magazine - .45 ACP]]
	[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]		[[File:Labora Fontbernat M1938.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|For comparison: Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo]]