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VladVladson: /* Make percussion revolvers a separate section? */ new section

2018-10-11T19:56:48Z

Make percussion revolvers a separate section?: new section

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	: By 'categories' I think you mean 'makes'. That said, I think ignoring make/brand and just going by size - in this case, frame-size - seems to be a good basis. Again, it's more-or-less the same as how the pistols are done. Especially in terms of 'basic' models/images as they fall on a general pattern, even with older pieces - most smaller wheelguns (I/J-frame S&Ws, D-series Colts, etc) are short barreled (roughly 3" or less) or snubs (with the exception of the 'safety hammerless' style guns Iver Johnson Safety Automatic, Harrington and Richardson, etc which are also fairly small yet a tad longer), while mediums (K/L-frame S&Ws, Ruger Six series, etc) typically have 3-4" barrels and large frames (N-frames, Anaconda, Redhawk, Colt SAAs) are typically seen in configurations longer than 4". There are of course some outliers in terms of barrel length (IE there are large frame snubs, and likewise small-frame guns with long barrels) but as these are outliers, they're irrelevant when talking about 'basic' representations. Most IDs for revolvers boil down to frame styles and controls/features in any case. Can further differentiate size with era/projectile type (cap-and-ball vs cartridge). Eh, some thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:41, 8 September 2017 (EDT)		: By 'categories' I think you mean 'makes'. That said, I think ignoring make/brand and just going by size - in this case, frame-size - seems to be a good basis. Again, it's more-or-less the same as how the pistols are done. Especially in terms of 'basic' models/images as they fall on a general pattern, even with older pieces - most smaller wheelguns (I/J-frame S&Ws, D-series Colts, etc) are short barreled (roughly 3" or less) or snubs (with the exception of the 'safety hammerless' style guns Iver Johnson Safety Automatic, Harrington and Richardson, etc which are also fairly small yet a tad longer), while mediums (K/L-frame S&Ws, Ruger Six series, etc) typically have 3-4" barrels and large frames (N-frames, Anaconda, Redhawk, Colt SAAs) are typically seen in configurations longer than 4". There are of course some outliers in terms of barrel length (IE there are large frame snubs, and likewise small-frame guns with long barrels) but as these are outliers, they're irrelevant when talking about 'basic' representations. Most IDs for revolvers boil down to frame styles and controls/features in any case. Can further differentiate size with era/projectile type (cap-and-ball vs cartridge). Eh, some thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:41, 8 September 2017 (EDT)

			== Make percussion revolvers a separate section? ==

			Any reasons why percussion revolvers shouldn't be in a separate section (like revolving carbines are)? Revolvers with cartridge conversions may have to be listed twice, but that's the only issue I can think of. --[[User:VladVladson\|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson\|talk]]) 15:56, 11 October 2018 (EDT)

StanTheMan: /* Recent Gallery Update */

2017-09-08T05:44:29Z

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	P.S: There are many categories for revolver series - such as Arminius, H&R, Webley, and Rohm - and most of them have smaller compact revolvers and larger-frame revolvers. How, not trying to be mean, do you propose to solve that problem?		P.S: There are many categories for revolver series - such as Arminius, H&R, Webley, and Rohm - and most of them have smaller compact revolvers and larger-frame revolvers. How, not trying to be mean, do you propose to solve that problem?

	: By 'categories' I think you mean 'makes'. That said, I think ignoring make/brand and just going by size - in this case, frame-size - seems to be a good basis. Again, it's more-or-less the same as how the pistols are done. Especially in terms of 'basic' models/images as they fall on a general pattern, even with older pieces - most smaller wheelguns (I/J-frame S&Ws, D-series Colts, etc) are short barreled (roughly 3" or less) or snubs (with the exception of the 'safety hammerless' style guns Iver Johnson Safety Automatic, Harrington and Richardson, etc which are also fairly small yet a tad longer), while mediums (K/L-frame S&Ws, Ruger Six series, etc) typically have 3-4" barrels and large frames (N-frames, Anaconda, Redhawk Colt SAAs) are typically seen in configurations longer than 4". There are of course some outliers in terms of barrel length (IE there are large frame snubs, and likewise small-frame guns with long barrels) but as these are outliers, they're irrelevant when talking about 'basic' representations. Most IDs for revolvers boil down to frame styles and controls/features in any case. Can further differentiate size with era/projectile type (cap-and-ball vs cartridge). Eh, some thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:41, 8 September 2017 (EDT)		: By 'categories' I think you mean 'makes'. That said, I think ignoring make/brand and just going by size - in this case, frame-size - seems to be a good basis. Again, it's more-or-less the same as how the pistols are done. Especially in terms of 'basic' models/images as they fall on a general pattern, even with older pieces - most smaller wheelguns (I/J-frame S&Ws, D-series Colts, etc) are short barreled (roughly 3" or less) or snubs (with the exception of the 'safety hammerless' style guns Iver Johnson Safety Automatic, Harrington and Richardson, etc which are also fairly small yet a tad longer), while mediums (K/L-frame S&Ws, Ruger Six series, etc) typically have 3-4" barrels and large frames (N-frames, Anaconda, Redhawk, Colt SAAs) are typically seen in configurations longer than 4". There are of course some outliers in terms of barrel length (IE there are large frame snubs, and likewise small-frame guns with long barrels) but as these are outliers, they're irrelevant when talking about 'basic' representations. Most IDs for revolvers boil down to frame styles and controls/features in any case. Can further differentiate size with era/projectile type (cap-and-ball vs cartridge). Eh, some thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:41, 8 September 2017 (EDT)

StanTheMan: /* Recent Gallery Update */

2017-09-08T05:44:19Z

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	P.S: There are many categories for revolver series - such as Arminius, H&R, Webley, and Rohm - and most of them have smaller compact revolvers and larger-frame revolvers. How, not trying to be mean, do you propose to solve that problem?		P.S: There are many categories for revolver series - such as Arminius, H&R, Webley, and Rohm - and most of them have smaller compact revolvers and larger-frame revolvers. How, not trying to be mean, do you propose to solve that problem?

	: By 'categories' I think you mean 'makes'. That said, I think ignoring make/brand and just going by size - in this case, frame-size - seems to be a good basis. Again, it's more-or-less the same as how the pistols are done. Especially in terms of 'basic' models/images as they fall on a general pattern, even with older pieces - most smaller wheelguns (I/J-frame S&Ws, D-series Colts, etc) are short barreled (roughly 3" or less) or snubs (with the exception of the 'safety hammerless' style guns Iver Johnson Safety Automatic, Harrington and Richardson, etc which are also fairly small yet a tad longer), while mediums (K/L-frame S&Ws, Ruger Six series, etc) typically have 3-4" barrels and large frames (N-frames, Anaconda, Redhawk) are typically seen in configurations longer than 4". There are of course some outliers in terms of barrel length (IE there are large frame snubs, and likewise small-frame guns with long barrels) but as these are outliers, they're irrelevant when talking about 'basic' representations. Most IDs for revolvers boil down to frame styles and controls/features in any case. Can further differentiate size with era/projectile type (cap-and-ball vs cartridge). Eh, some thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:41, 8 September 2017 (EDT)		: By 'categories' I think you mean 'makes'. That said, I think ignoring make/brand and just going by size - in this case, frame-size - seems to be a good basis. Again, it's more-or-less the same as how the pistols are done. Especially in terms of 'basic' models/images as they fall on a general pattern, even with older pieces - most smaller wheelguns (I/J-frame S&Ws, D-series Colts, etc) are short barreled (roughly 3" or less) or snubs (with the exception of the 'safety hammerless' style guns Iver Johnson Safety Automatic, Harrington and Richardson, etc which are also fairly small yet a tad longer), while mediums (K/L-frame S&Ws, Ruger Six series, etc) typically have 3-4" barrels and large frames (N-frames, Anaconda, Redhawk Colt SAAs) are typically seen in configurations longer than 4". There are of course some outliers in terms of barrel length (IE there are large frame snubs, and likewise small-frame guns with long barrels) but as these are outliers, they're irrelevant when talking about 'basic' representations. Most IDs for revolvers boil down to frame styles and controls/features in any case. Can further differentiate size with era/projectile type (cap-and-ball vs cartridge). Eh, some thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:41, 8 September 2017 (EDT)

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2017-09-08T05:43:55Z

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	P.S: There are many categories for revolver series - such as Arminius, H&R, Webley, and Rohm - and most of them have smaller compact revolvers and larger-frame revolvers. How, not trying to be mean, do you propose to solve that problem?		P.S: There are many categories for revolver series - such as Arminius, H&R, Webley, and Rohm - and most of them have smaller compact revolvers and larger-frame revolvers. How, not trying to be mean, do you propose to solve that problem?

	: By 'categories' I think you mean 'makes'. That said, I think ignoring make/brand and just going by size - in this case, frame-size - seems to be a good basis. Again, it's more-or-less the same as how the pistols are done. Especially in terms of 'basic' models/images as they fall on a general pattern, even with older pieces - most smaller wheelguns (I/J-frame S&Ws, D-series Colts, etc) are short barreled (roughly 3" or less) or snubs (with the exception of the 'safety hammerless' style guns Iver Johnson Safety Automatic, Harrington and Richardson, etc which are also fairly small yet a tad longer), while mediums (K/L-frame S&Ws, Ruger Six series, etc) have 3-4" barrels and large frames (N-frames, Anaconda, Redhawk) are typically seen in configurations longer than 4". There are of course some outliers in terms of barrel length (IE there are large frame snubs, and likewise small-frame guns with long barrels) but as these are outliers, they're irrelevant when talking about 'basic' representations. Most IDs for revolvers boil down to frame styles and controls/features in any case. Can further differentiate size with era/projectile type (cap-and-ball vs cartridge). Eh, some thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:41, 8 September 2017 (EDT)		: By 'categories' I think you mean 'makes'. That said, I think ignoring make/brand and just going by size - in this case, frame-size - seems to be a good basis. Again, it's more-or-less the same as how the pistols are done. Especially in terms of 'basic' models/images as they fall on a general pattern, even with older pieces - most smaller wheelguns (I/J-frame S&Ws, D-series Colts, etc) are short barreled (roughly 3" or less) or snubs (with the exception of the 'safety hammerless' style guns Iver Johnson Safety Automatic, Harrington and Richardson, etc which are also fairly small yet a tad longer), while mediums (K/L-frame S&Ws, Ruger Six series, etc) typically have 3-4" barrels and large frames (N-frames, Anaconda, Redhawk) are typically seen in configurations longer than 4". There are of course some outliers in terms of barrel length (IE there are large frame snubs, and likewise small-frame guns with long barrels) but as these are outliers, they're irrelevant when talking about 'basic' representations. Most IDs for revolvers boil down to frame styles and controls/features in any case. Can further differentiate size with era/projectile type (cap-and-ball vs cartridge). Eh, some thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:41, 8 September 2017 (EDT)

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2017-09-08T05:43:18Z

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	P.S: There are many categories for revolver series - such as Arminius, H&R, Webley, and Rohm - and most of them have smaller compact revolvers and larger-frame revolvers. How, not trying to be mean, do you propose to solve that problem?		P.S: There are many categories for revolver series - such as Arminius, H&R, Webley, and Rohm - and most of them have smaller compact revolvers and larger-frame revolvers. How, not trying to be mean, do you propose to solve that problem?

	: By 'categories' I think you mean 'makes'. That said, I think ignoring make/brand and just going by size - in this case, frame-size - seems to be a good basis. Again, it's more-or-less the same as how the pistols are done. Especially in terms of 'basic' models/images as they fall on a general pattern, even with older pieces - most smaller wheelguns (I/J-frame S&Ws, D-series Colts, etc) are short barreled (roughly 3" or less) or snubs, with the exception of the 'safety hammerless' style guns (Iver Johnson Safety Automatic, Harrington and Richardson, etc) which are a tad longer ~~but still~~, while mediums (K/L-frame S&Ws, Ruger Six series, etc) have 3-4" barrels and large frames (N-frames, Anaconda, Redhawk) are typically seen in configurations longer than 4". There are of course some outliers in terms of barrel length (IE there are large frame snubs, and likewise small-frame guns with long barrels) but as these are outliers, they're irrelevant when talking about 'basic' representations. Most IDs for revolvers boil down to frame styles and controls/features in any case. Can further differentiate size with era/projectile type (cap-and-ball vs cartridge). Eh, some thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:41, 8 September 2017 (EDT)		: By 'categories' I think you mean 'makes'. That said, I think ignoring make/brand and just going by size - in this case, frame-size - seems to be a good basis. Again, it's more-or-less the same as how the pistols are done. Especially in terms of 'basic' models/images as they fall on a general pattern, even with older pieces - most smaller wheelguns (I/J-frame S&Ws, D-series Colts, etc) are short barreled (roughly 3" or less) or snubs (with the exception of the 'safety hammerless' style guns Iver Johnson Safety Automatic, Harrington and Richardson, etc which are also fairly small yet a tad longer), while mediums (K/L-frame S&Ws, Ruger Six series, etc) have 3-4" barrels and large frames (N-frames, Anaconda, Redhawk) are typically seen in configurations longer than 4". There are of course some outliers in terms of barrel length (IE there are large frame snubs, and likewise small-frame guns with long barrels) but as these are outliers, they're irrelevant when talking about 'basic' representations. Most IDs for revolvers boil down to frame styles and controls/features in any case. Can further differentiate size with era/projectile type (cap-and-ball vs cartridge). Eh, some thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:41, 8 September 2017 (EDT)

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2017-09-08T05:41:30Z

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	P.S: There are many categories for revolver series - such as Arminius, H&R, Webley, and Rohm - and most of them have smaller compact revolvers and larger-frame revolvers. How, not trying to be mean, do you propose to solve that problem?		P.S: There are many categories for revolver series - such as Arminius, H&R, Webley, and Rohm - and most of them have smaller compact revolvers and larger-frame revolvers. How, not trying to be mean, do you propose to solve that problem?

			: By 'categories' I think you mean 'makes'. That said, I think ignoring make/brand and just going by size - in this case, frame-size - seems to be a good basis. Again, it's more-or-less the same as how the pistols are done. Especially in terms of 'basic' models/images as they fall on a general pattern, even with older pieces - most smaller wheelguns (I/J-frame S&Ws, D-series Colts, etc) are short barreled (roughly 3" or less) or snubs, with the exception of the 'safety hammerless' style guns (Iver Johnson Safety Automatic, Harrington and Richardson, etc) which are a tad longer but still, while mediums (K/L-frame S&Ws, Ruger Six series, etc) have 3-4" barrels and large frames (N-frames, Anaconda, Redhawk) are typically seen in configurations longer than 4". There are of course some outliers in terms of barrel length (IE there are large frame snubs, and likewise small-frame guns with long barrels) but as these are outliers, they're irrelevant when talking about 'basic' representations. Most IDs for revolvers boil down to frame styles and controls/features in any case. Can further differentiate size with era/projectile type (cap-and-ball vs cartridge). Eh, some thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:41, 8 September 2017 (EDT)

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2017-09-07T22:00:02Z

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	Also, the gallery is mainly for users who don't know their revolvers - trying to go through about 100+ pages is a whole lot worse than scrolling through a gallery.		Also, the gallery is mainly for users who don't know their revolvers - trying to go through about 100+ pages is a whole lot worse than scrolling through a gallery.

			P.S: There are many categories for revolver series - such as Arminius, H&R, Webley, and Rohm - and most of them have smaller compact revolvers and larger-frame revolvers. How, not trying to be mean, do you propose to solve that problem?

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	I'd agree with you here, but should I categorize them by average frame size? Some guns have longer/shorter barrel configurations that can really screw it up. -[[User:SeptemberJack\|SeptemberJack]] ([[User talk:SeptemberJack\|talk]]) 17:52, 7 September 2017 (EDT)		I'd agree with you here, but should I categorize them by average frame size? Some guns have longer/shorter barrel configurations that can really screw it up. -[[User:SeptemberJack\|SeptemberJack]] ([[User talk:SeptemberJack\|talk]]) 17:52, 7 September 2017 (EDT)

			Also, the gallery is mainly for users who don't know their revolvers - trying to go through about 100+ pages is a whole lot worse than scrolling through a gallery.

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2017-09-07T21:52:18Z

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	==Recent Gallery Update==		==Recent Gallery Update==
	Not sure if this is really that much of an improvement - That said, if this is gonna be done, I think it would be beneficial to perhaps go a step further and have sections differentiated by overall size as is done with the pistols page. (This would include making a separate section for the 'fictional pieces, though I'd argue more that those ought to be omitted entirely, as those are not 'common' or 'basic' pieces nor will be readily encountered in media.) [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:44, 7 September 2017 (EDT)		Not sure if this is really that much of an improvement - That said, if this is gonna be done, I think it would be beneficial to perhaps go a step further and have sections differentiated by overall size as is done with the pistols page. (This would include making a separate section for the 'fictional pieces, though I'd argue more that those ought to be omitted entirely, as those are not 'common' or 'basic' pieces nor will be readily encountered in media.) [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:44, 7 September 2017 (EDT)

			I'd agree with you here, but should I categorize them by average frame size? Some guns have longer/shorter barrel configurations that can really screw it up. -[[User:SeptemberJack\|SeptemberJack]] ([[User talk:SeptemberJack\|talk]]) 17:52, 7 September 2017 (EDT)

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	==Recent Gallery Update==		==Recent Gallery Update==
	Not sure if this is really that much of an improvement - That said, if this is gonna be done, I think it would be beneficial to perhaps go a step further and have sections differentiated by overall size as is done with the pistols page. (This would ~~including~~ a separate section for the 'fictional pieces, though I'd argue more that those ought to be omitted entirely, as those are not 'common' or 'basic' pieces to be readily encountered in media.) [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:44, 7 September 2017 (EDT)		Not sure if this is really that much of an improvement - That said, if this is gonna be done, I think it would be beneficial to perhaps go a step further and have sections differentiated by overall size as is done with the pistols page. (This would include making a separate section for the 'fictional pieces, though I'd argue more that those ought to be omitted entirely, as those are not 'common' or 'basic' pieces nor will be readily encountered in media.) [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 01:44, 7 September 2017 (EDT)