Bergmann MP 18 - Revision history

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	\| ''[[Anthropoid]]'' \|\| \|\| A German soldier \|\| \|\| ~~2006~~		\| ''[[Anthropoid]]'' \|\| \|\| A German soldier \|\| \|\| 2016
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	\| ''[[~~Land That Time Forgot, The\|~~The Land That Time Forgot]]'' \|\| [[Declan Mulholland]] \|\| Olson \|\| \|\| 1975		\| ''[[The Land That Time Forgot]]'' \|\| [[Declan Mulholland]] \|\| Olson \|\| \|\| 1975
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	\| ''[[Michael Collins]]'' \|\| \|\| An IRA assassin \|\| \|\| 1996		\| ''[[Michael Collins]]'' \|\| \|\| An IRA assassin \|\| \|\| 1996
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	\|''[[~~Water Diviner, The\|~~The Water Diviner]]''\|\| \|\| Greek soldier \|\| \|\|2014		\| ''[[The Water Diviner]]''\|\| \|\| A Greek soldier \|\| \|\|2014
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	\|''[[~~King's Man, The\|~~The King's Man]]''\|\|\|\|German soldier\|\|\|\|2021		\| ''[[The King's Man]]''\|\| \|\| A German soldier \|\| \|\|2021
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			\| ''[[Battlefield: 1918]]'' \|\| \|\| \|\| 2004
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	\| ''[[NecroVisioN]]'' \|\| "MP 18/I" \|\| \|\| 2009		\| ''[[NecroVisioN]]'' \|\| "MP 18/I" \|\| \|\| 2009
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	\| ''[[Richard III]]'' \|\| \|\| Richard's soldiers \|\| \|\| 1995		\| ''[[Richard III]]'' \|\| \|\| Richard's soldiers \|\| \|\| 1995
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			\| ''[[Deathwatch]]'' \|\| [[Jamie Bell]] \|\| Pte. Charlie Shakespare \|\| \|\| 2002
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	\| ''[[~~Deathwatch~~]]'' \|\| \|\| ~~Pte. Charlie Shakespare~~ \|\| \|\| ~~2002~~		\| ''[[Anthropoid]]'' \|\| \|\| A German soldier \|\| \|\| 2006
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	\|''[[Jojo Rabbit]]''\|\|[[Sam Rockwell]]\|\|Captain Klenzendorf\|\|\|\|2019		\| ''[[Jojo Rabbit]]''\|\| [[Sam Rockwell]] \|\| Captain Klenzendorf \|\| \|\|2019
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	\| ''[[Babylon Berlin - Season 1]]'' \|\| \|\| \|\| Ep. 03 - Misidentified as a MP 28/II \|\| 2017		\| ''[[Babylon Berlin - Season 1]]'' \|\| \|\| \|\| Ep. 03 - Misidentified as a MP 28/II \|\| 2017
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	\| ''[[Babylon Berlin - Season 2]]'' \|\| \|\| ''Schwarze Reichswehr'' soldiers \|\| Ep. 13 \|\| 2017		\| ''[[Babylon Berlin - Season 2]]'' \|\| \|\| ''Schwarze Reichswehr'' soldiers \|\| Ep. 13 \|\| 2017

Get Em Puppy: /* Film */

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			\|''[[Jojo Rabbit]]''\|\|[[Sam Rockwell]]\|\|Captain Klenzendorf\|\|\|\|2019
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Alex T Snow: Alex T Snow moved page Bergmann MP18 to Bergmann MP 18: German nomenclature space

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Alex T Snow moved page Bergmann MP18 to Bergmann MP 18: German nomenclature space

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	=~~MP18~~/I=		=MP 18/I=
	[[File:MP18.JPG\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Bergmann ~~MP18~~/I - 9x19mm]]		[[File:MP18.JPG\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Bergmann MP 18/I - 9x19mm]]

	The '''Bergmann ~~MP18~~''' is a German submachine gun, one of the first mass-produced submachine guns to ever see combat. The weapon was designed by Hugo Schmeisser between 1915 and 1917 at the Bergmann Waffenfabrik factory. It was designed to fulfill the requirements established by the German Rifle Testing Commission.		The '''Bergmann MP 18''' is a German submachine gun, one of the first mass-produced submachine guns to ever see combat. The weapon was designed by Hugo Schmeisser between 1915 and 1917 at the Bergmann Waffenfabrik factory. It was designed to fulfill the requirements established by the German Rifle Testing Commission.

	The original ~~MP18~~ was fed by box magazines, however the Commission wanted the weapon to utilize the existing high-capacity 32-round "snail" drum magazine used in the [[Luger P08\|P08 Artillery Luger]]. Very little is known about the early development period of the ~~MP18~~, probably due to the fact that work was kept secret due to the war. Most sources agree that the design was completed by the end of 1917, and went into production in early 1918. When the weapon was completed, it was designated the ''Maschinenpistole'' 18/I or ~~MP18~~/I. The weapons were finished and the parts all fitted by hand, at near commercial-grade quality.		The original MP 18 was fed by box magazines, however the Commission wanted the weapon to utilize the existing high-capacity 32-round "snail" drum magazine used in the [[Luger P08\|P08 Artillery Luger]]. Very little is known about the early development period of the MP 18, probably due to the fact that work was kept secret due to the war. Most sources agree that the design was completed by the end of 1917, and went into production in early 1918. When the weapon was completed, it was designated the ''Maschinenpistole'' 18/I or MP 18/I. The weapons were finished and the parts all fitted by hand, at near commercial-grade quality.

	An unknown quantity of ~~MP18s~~ were produced and issued in the final months of World War I; various sources refer to numbers from 3,000 to 10,000 (there is an opinion that allegedly 17,677 were issued before the end of hostilities on the basis of a "crowned C" acceptance stamp, but strictly speaking, ''all'' known ~~MP18s~~ have this stamp, and the sample [http://firearms.96.lt/pages/Bergmann%20magazines.png] with the "17,677" serial number is also equipped with a post-war Schmeisser receiver for box magazines). In total, about 35,000 (at least based on known serial numbers) ~~MP18~~/Is were made, and most of them were obviously produced after the end of the war, before the Treaty of Versailles put an end to this (and according to several opinions, also secretly produced for some time even after the ban).		An unknown quantity of MP 18s were produced and issued in the final months of World War I; various sources refer to numbers from 3,000 to 10,000 (there is an opinion that allegedly 17,677 were issued before the end of hostilities on the basis of a "crowned C" acceptance stamp, but strictly speaking, ''all'' known MP 18s have this stamp, and the sample [http://firearms.96.lt/pages/Bergmann%20magazines.png] with the "17,677" serial number is also equipped with a post-war Schmeisser receiver for box magazines). In total, about 35,000 (at least based on known serial numbers) MP 18/Is were made, and most of them were obviously produced after the end of the war, before the Treaty of Versailles put an end to this (and according to several opinions, also secretly produced for some time even after the ban).

	The original factory production of the ~~MP18~~ was accordingly discontinued after about a year after it started, because, due to new restrictions, Germany simply could not mass produce weapons of the "assault" type, and the design was sold to Swiss company [[SIG]], which started producing it with a number of changes as their [[SIG M1920\|Model 1920]]. The design was again improved upon and manufactured in Belgium for export as the [[~~Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II~~\|~~Schmeisser MP28~~/II]].		The original factory production of the MP 18 was accordingly discontinued after about a year after it started, because, due to new restrictions, Germany simply could not mass produce weapons of the "assault" type, and the design was sold to Swiss company [[SIG]], which started producing it with a number of changes as their [[SIG M1920\|Model 1920]]. The design was again improved upon and manufactured in Belgium for export as the [[MP 28\|MP 28/II]].

	The "I" index is most likely a design difference. ~~MP18~~/II and ~~MP18~~/III remained prototypes, never serial-produced (although the first of them eventually evolved into ~~MP28~~/II).		The "I" index is most likely a design difference. MP 18/II and MP 18/III remained prototypes, never serial-produced (although the first of them eventually evolved into MP 28/II).

	'''N.B.''' The ~~MP18~~'s deployment as the first submachine gun used in combat led to Allied forces during World War II nicknaming the Wehrmacht's [[~~MP40~~]] submachine gun "the Schmeisser", an appellation that has endured in several novels, films, and television series. In fact, Hugo Schmeisser had no involvement in the ~~MP40~~'s design or manufacture.		'''N.B.''' The MP 18's deployment as the first submachine gun used in combat led to Allied forces during World War II nicknaming the Wehrmacht's [[MP 40]] submachine gun "the Schmeisser", an appellation that has endured in several novels, films, and television series. In fact, Hugo Schmeisser had no involvement in the MP 40's design or manufacture.

	==Specifications==		==Specifications==
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	=~~MP18~~/I "System Schmeisser"=		=MP 18/I "System Schmeisser"=
	[[File:MP18I.jpg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Bergmann ~~MP18~~/I "System Schmeisser" - 9x19mm]]		[[File:MP18I.jpg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Bergmann MP 18/I "System Schmeisser" - 9x19mm]]

	The "System Schmeisser" is a later version of the ~~MP18~~/I that was converted in the 1930s to use straight box magazines rather than 32-round snail drums; the name comes from the "System Schmeisser" markings present on the weapons' converted magazine wells. These conversions are sometimes referred to as the "~~MP18~~/Iv" (not "IV" or "II", as "v" for ''verbessert''/"improved"). The "System Schmeisser" magazine feed is identical to that of the ~~[[Haenel MP28~~/II]] and takes the same 20 and 32-round magazines; the Schmeisser-pattern magazines were also later adopted for the ~~[[MP40]]~~.		The "System Schmeisser" is a later version of the MP 18/I that was converted in the 1930s to use straight box magazines rather than 32-round snail drums; the name comes from the "System Schmeisser" markings present on the weapons' converted magazine wells. These conversions are sometimes referred to as the "MP 18/Iv" (not "IV" or "II", as "v" for ''verbessert''/"improved"). The "System Schmeisser" magazine feed is identical to that of the MP 28/II and takes the same 20 and 32-round magazines; the Schmeisser-pattern magazines were also later adopted for the MP 40.

	The "System Schmeisser" conversions were undertaken by Haenel on behalf on the German police, who widely used the ~~MP18~~/I during the Weimar era. These guns were also fitted with bolt locks on the forward receiver, identical to the type also seen on the [[Erma EMP]]. It should be noted that not all police ~~MP18~~/I were converted, as there are examples of weapons marked "1920", which retain the original design, as the "1920" stamp was used to prove that marked weapons were not kept in secret, but in the official possession of the police.		The "System Schmeisser" conversions were undertaken by Haenel on behalf on the German police, who widely used the MP 18/I during the Weimar era. These guns were also fitted with bolt locks on the forward receiver, identical to the type also seen on the [[Erma EMP]]. It should be noted that not all police MP 18/I were converted, as there are examples of weapons marked "1920", which retain the original design, as the "1920" stamp was used to prove that marked weapons were not kept in secret, but in the official possession of the police.

	==Specifications==		==Specifications==
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	\| ''[[Babylon Berlin - Season 1]]'' \|\| \|\| \|\| Ep. 03 - Misidentified as a ~~[[Haenel MP28~~/II]] \|\| 2017		\| ''[[Babylon Berlin - Season 1]]'' \|\| \|\| \|\| Ep. 03 - Misidentified as a MP 28/II \|\| 2017
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	\| ''[[Babylon Berlin - Season 2]]'' \|\| \|\| ''Schwarze Reichswehr'' soldiers \|\| Ep. 13 \|\| 2017		\| ''[[Babylon Berlin - Season 2]]'' \|\| \|\| ''Schwarze Reichswehr'' soldiers \|\| Ep. 13 \|\| 2017

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Video Games

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	\| ''[[NecroVisioN]]'' \|\| "~~MP18~~" \|\| \|\| 2009		\| ''[[NecroVisioN]]'' \|\| "MP 18/I" \|\| \|\| 2009
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	~~\| ''[[NecroVisioN: Lost Company]]'' \|\| "MP18" \|\| \|\| 2010~~
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	\| ''[[The Great War 1918]]''\|\| "Bergmann MP18" \|\| \|\|2013		\| ''[[The Great War 1918]]''\|\| "Bergmann MP18" \|\| \|\|2013

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Video Games

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	\| ''[[NecroVisioN: Lost Company]]'' \|\| "MP18" \|\| \|\| 2010		\| ''[[NecroVisioN: Lost Company]]'' \|\| "MP18" \|\| \|\| 2010
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	\| ''[[The Great War 1918]]''\|\| \|\| \|\|2013		\| ''[[The Great War 1918]]''\|\| "Bergmann MP18" \|\| \|\|2013
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	\| ''[[Battle of Empires: 1914-1918 ]]'' \|\| "MP-18" \|\| \|\| 2015		\| ''[[Battle of Empires: 1914-1918 ]]'' \|\| "MP-18" \|\| \|\| 2015
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	\| ''[[Enlisted]]''\|\| \|\| Bergmann MP18/I \|\| 2021		\| ''[[Enlisted]]''\|\| \|\| Bergmann MP18/I \|\| 2021
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	\| ''[[Beyond The Wire]]'' \|\| "~~Maschinenpistole 18~~" \|\| \|\| 2022		\| ''[[Beyond The Wire]]'' \|\| "MP18, I" \|\| \|\| 2022
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Video Games

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	\| ''[[The Great War 1918]]''\|\| \|\| \|\|2013		\| ''[[The Great War 1918]]''\|\| \|\| \|\|2013
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	\| ''[[Battle of Empires: 1914-1918 ]]'' \|\| "~~MP18~~" \|\| \|\| ~~2014~~		\| ''[[Battle of Empires: 1914-1918 ]]'' \|\| "MP-18" \|\| \|\| 2015
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	\| ''[[Verdun]]'' \|\| "Maschinenpistole 18/I" \|\| \|\| 2015		\| ''[[Verdun]]'' \|\| "Maschinenpistole 18/I" \|\| \|\| 2015

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Video Games

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	\| ''[[NecroVisioN: Lost Company]]'' \|\| "MP18" \|\| \|\| 2010		\| ''[[NecroVisioN: Lost Company]]'' \|\| "MP18" \|\| \|\| 2010
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	\| ''[[The Great War 1918]]\|\| \|\| \|\|2013		\| ''[[The Great War 1918]]''\|\| \|\| \|\|2013
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	\| ''[[Battle of Empires: 1914-1918 ]]'' \|\| "MP18" \|\| \|\| 2014		\| ''[[Battle of Empires: 1914-1918 ]]'' \|\| "MP18" \|\| \|\| 2014
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	\| ''[[Battlefield 1]]'' \|\| "MP18" \|\| \|\| 2016		\| ''[[Battlefield 1]]'' \|\| "MP18" \|\| \|\| 2016
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	\| ''[[Screaming Steel: 1914-1918]]''\|\| "MP18/I" \|\| \|\| 2018		\| ''[[Screaming Steel: 1914-1918]]''\|\| "MP18,I" \|\| \|\| 2018
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	\| ''[[Enlisted]]''\|\| \|\| Bergmann MP18/I \|\| 2021		\| ''[[Enlisted]]''\|\| \|\| Bergmann MP18/I \|\| 2021

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Video Games

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	!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"\|''' Release Date'''		!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"\|''' Release Date'''
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	\| ''[[NecroVisioN]]'' \|\| \|\| \|\| 2009		\| ''[[NecroVisioN]]'' \|\| "MP18" \|\| \|\| 2009
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	\| ''[[NecroVisioN: Lost Company]]'' \|\| \|\| \|\| 2010		\| ''[[NecroVisioN: Lost Company]]'' \|\| "MP18" \|\| \|\| 2010
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	\|''[[~~Great War 1918, The\|~~The Great War 1918]]\|\| \|\| \|\|2013		\| ''[[The Great War 1918]]\|\| \|\| \|\|2013
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	\|''[[Battle of Empires : 1914-1918 ]]'' \|\| "MP18" \|\| \|\| 2014		\| ''[[Battle of Empires: 1914-1918 ]]'' \|\| "MP18" \|\| \|\| 2014
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	\| ''[[~~Verdun (VG)\|~~Verdun]]'' \|\| "Maschinenpistole 18/I" \|\| \|\| 2015		\| ''[[Verdun]]'' \|\| "Maschinenpistole 18/I" \|\| \|\| 2015
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	\| ''[[Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades]]'' \|\| \|\| \|\| 2016		\| ''[[Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades]]'' \|\| \|\| \|\| 2016
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	\| ''[[Battlefield 1]]'' \|\| MP18 \|\| \|\| 2016		\| ''[[Battlefield 1]]'' \|\| "MP18" \|\| \|\| 2016
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	\| ''[[Screaming Steel: 1914-1918]]''\|\| MP18/I \|\| \|\| 2018		\| ''[[Screaming Steel: 1914-1918]]''\|\| "MP18/I" \|\| \|\| 2018
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	\| ''[[Enlisted]]''\|\| \|\| Bergmann MP18/I \|\| 2021		\| ''[[Enlisted]]''\|\| \|\| Bergmann MP18/I \|\| 2021
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			\| ''[[Beyond The Wire]]'' \|\| "Maschinenpistole 18" \|\| \|\| 2022
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