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&lt;div&gt;{{Infobox Movie|{{PAGENAME}}&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Dawn of the Dead&lt;br /&gt;
|picture=Dawn_of_the_dead_poster.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=''Theatrical Release Poster''&lt;br /&gt;
|country=[[Image:USA.jpg|25px]]United States&lt;br /&gt;
|director=[[Zack Snyder]]&lt;br /&gt;
|date=2004&lt;br /&gt;
|studio=Strike Entertainment&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;New Amsterdam Entertainment&lt;br /&gt;
|distributor=Universal Pictures&lt;br /&gt;
|character1=Anna Clark&lt;br /&gt;
|actor1=[[Sarah Polley]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character2=Kenneth&lt;br /&gt;
|actor2=[[Ving Rhames]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character3=Michael&lt;br /&gt;
|actor3=[[Jake Weber]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character4=Andre&lt;br /&gt;
|actor4=[[Mekhi Phifer]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character5=C.J.&lt;br /&gt;
|actor5=[[Michael Kelly]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character6=Tucker&lt;br /&gt;
|actor6=[[Boyd Banks]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character7=Terry&lt;br /&gt;
|actor7=[[Kevin Zegers]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character8=Andy&lt;br /&gt;
|actor8=[[Bruce Bohne]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character9=Norma&lt;br /&gt;
|actor9=[[Jayne Eastwood]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character10=Steve&lt;br /&gt;
|actor10=[[Ty Burrell]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character11=Bart&lt;br /&gt;
|actor11=[[Michael Barry]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''''Dawn of the Dead''''' is the 2004 remake of the [[Dawn of the Dead (1978)|1978 George Romero horror classic of the same name]].   Directed by [[Zack Snyder]], the film follows a group of survivors who take refuge in a shopping mall following a virus outbreak that have turned infected humans into cannibalistic zombies.   The film's cast includes [[Sarah Polley]], [[Ving Rhames]], [[Michael Kelly]], [[Mekhi Phifer]], and [[Jake Weber]].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Film Title}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
==Beretta 92FS Inox==&lt;br /&gt;
Andre ([[Mekhi Phifer]]) uses a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] as his weapon of choice. This pistol is also used  by other characters, mainly CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) when he clears out the lower level of the mall of any zombies. Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) also gets a hold of this weapon when he disarms CJ and holds it on him during the argument on the rooftop of the mall. Steve ([[Ty Burrell]]) can also been seen with a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] with blued components (trigger, hammer, safety, disassembly latch, and slide release) when he gets out of the crashed bus, a continuity error is seen when the referred parts are stainless when he checks the gun's load.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS Inox - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andre ([[Mekhi Phifer]]) uses a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] against the zombies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andre firing his Beretta 92FS Inox at an approaching zombie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-8.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andre's Inox locks empty while holding off some zombies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andre taunts a zombie behind shatterproof glass with his 92FS Inox in hand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:05.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Andre with his Beretta in a promotional photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_0139.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Beretta is fired by Andre ([[Mekhi Phifer]]) during his confrontation.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-9.jpg|thumb|none|602px|Closeup of Andre's 92FS Inox during his confrontation with Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]). &amp;quot;Stainless&amp;quot; can clearly be seen underneath the front of the barrel.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-7.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth holds the [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] on CJ after taking it away from him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ kills a zombie with Andre's Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-6.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) holds Andre's Beretta Inox on Kevin during the argument on the rooftop.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kevin is threatened with the Inox.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-10.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Steve picks up a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] after the bus he's in crashes - Notice how the trigger, hammer, safety, disassembly latch, and slide release are blued.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-11.jpg|thumb|none|601px|And now those parts are stainless when Steve checks the load.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_128.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Steve ([[Ty Burrell]]) raises the Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta 92FS==&lt;br /&gt;
While the survivors are loading up at the gun store, a [[Beretta 92FS]] is among the weapons to be taken. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta3.jpg|thumb|601px|none|A [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] and a [[Glock 36]] on a counter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 21==&lt;br /&gt;
After the survivors load up at the gun store, several [[Glock 21]] pistols are seen afterwards. CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) hands a pair of the pistols to a wounded Tucker ([[Boyd Banks]]) to fight off the zombies chasing them in the sewers while they make their way back to the mall, CJ also uses one of these pistols as his back up weapon, and uses it to to explode a propane tank while at the docks so that the zombies can't reach the remaining survivors.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock21.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 21 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of CJ's [[Glock 21]] firing. The muzzle flash indicates that this is an authentic blank-firing weapon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-6.jpg |thumb|none|600px|CJ fires his Glock 21 at a zombie in the stairwell.  The Glock seen here is a non gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DOTD04 37.jpg |thumb|none|600px|The telltale &amp;quot;poof&amp;quot; of smoke indicates the Non Gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) firing his Glock while in the bus.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ uses his Glock to hold off the zombies. This shot shows the slide reads &amp;quot;.45 Auto&amp;quot;, making it a 21.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A magazine drops out of CJ's Glock, &amp;quot;.45&amp;quot; can be seen engraved at the top of the magazine, this also suggests the model of the gun is a [[Glock 21]] chambered in .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-5.jpg|thumb|none|602px|CJ uses his Glock 21 to ignite a flare before shooting a propane tank, causing the bus he's in to explode. '''Trivia note:''' Michael Kelly did actually ignite the flare by firing the blank gun close to it, something the crew did not expect to happen on the first take.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP==&lt;br /&gt;
When Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]), CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]), Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]), and Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) enter Andy's gun store to rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth), they find an unloaded [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]] laying on the bloody floor. This is presumed to be the gun Andy was using to fend off zombies while letting the dog Chips, outfitted with food, through a doggy door before being bitten and infected by a zombie. This pistol is seen in the hands of Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) at the end.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:USP9mm.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_130.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) with the pistol as seen through Kenneth's binoculars.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_USP.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andy's unloaded USP is seen on the bloody floor.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_107.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pistol is seen in the hands of Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) while he stands on the dock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
In the beginning of the film when the zombie outbreak first starts, one of Ana's neighbors can be seen with an [[M1911A1]] pistol and threatening her to stay back before he is hit by an out of control ambulance.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ana's neighbor with a [[M1911A1]] pistol.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P229==&lt;br /&gt;
When the survivors are loading up at the gun store, a [[SIG-Sauer P229]] pistol is seen being taken off the counter.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SIGP229.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P229 - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Sig.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A [[SIG-Sauer P229]] is taken off the counter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Star Model B==&lt;br /&gt;
Ana and Michael are seen watching the movie ''[[Animal House]]'' where Kent &amp;quot;Flounder&amp;quot; Dorfman ([[Stephen Furst]]) fires a  [[Star_1911_Series#Star_Model_B|Star Model B]] loaded with blanks in order to take care of Neidermeyer's horse.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:StarPistolB.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Star Model B with blue finish - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_546.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The scene from ''[[Animal House]]'' where Flounder uses the pistol.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Revolvers=&lt;br /&gt;
==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27==&lt;br /&gt;
Two of the mall's security guards are seen with the [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]]. CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) is seen with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] .357 Magnum during his initial standoff with the other survivors.  The revolver also is seen in the hands of Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]). Later in the film, a struggle ensues between the survivors that are currently in the mall and the former security guards on whether or not to let more survivors into the mall with CJ threatening to kill everyone to stay alive, but when he is distracted, the survivors disarm both CJ and Bart ([[Michael Barry]]). The revolver is also seen in the hands of and then mainly used by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) for the rest of the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Model28g.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27 with 4&amp;quot; barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolvers.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] and Bart ([[Michael Barry]]) with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_19.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A Model 27 laying on a counter just before Michael picks it up.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04 141.jpg|thumb|none|600px| The revolver is seen in the hands of Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_57.jpg|thumb|none|600px| The revolver is used by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While in the gun store, the revolver is held by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|On the far right, the revolver is held by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13==&lt;br /&gt;
Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]) uses a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]] throughout the film. Bart ([[Michael Barry]]) can also be seen with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]] revolver before it is taken from him by the other survivors.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_13.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13 with 4-inch barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolvers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] and Bart with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bart ([[Michael Barry]]) with the [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]]. In the background, CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) wields a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_15.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]) draws his [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 (Snub)==&lt;br /&gt;
Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) uses a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66]] snub nose revolver as her weapon in the film. The weapon is also used by Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) and is also seen when the survivors go to rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth) at Andy's gun shop. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mod66wPachmayr.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Smith and Wesson Model 66 with 2.5&amp;quot; barrel (snub-nose) - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the center, Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) uses a stainless [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66]] Snub atop a truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_132.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) pulls her [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66]] snub during a confrontation.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_19-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Closeup of Norma's [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 Snub Nose]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W-19-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ using Norma's Model 66 Snub Nose outside Andy's Gun Works.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W-19-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Anna fires the Model 66 Snub on the dock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Revolver &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
During the fight to the gun store, CJ's hand is seen using a [[Non_Guns#Smith_.26_Wesson_66|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;]] against a zombie at close range, temporarily replacing the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 acquired from Norma.  Later, while the survivors make their escape out of Milwaukee, Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) uses the &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;, also temporarily replacing the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66, to put a bullet into the head of a zombified Steve ([[Ty Burrell]]). This &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot; was used because Polley was close to Burrell when shooting this scene, and at such close range, blanks can be considered unsafe, so a &amp;quot;non gun&amp;quot; was used.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Snubnongun.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Revolver Non-Gun commonly used to impersonate snub-nose or short-barreled Smith &amp;amp; Wesson K-frame revolvers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ's Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 acquired from Norma temporarily turns into the &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot; when killing a zombie at the BP truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Ana fires the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_67.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Non Gun gives off the telltale &amp;quot;poof&amp;quot; of smoke.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AnaFlash.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Promotional image gives a good view of the &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotguns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Remington 870 (Police Magnum)==&lt;br /&gt;
Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) uses a police issue [[Remington 870]] shotgun fitted with a Surefire flashlight attachment on the foregrip as his signature weapon. He uses it for most of the film until the survivors go to rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth). He loses the weapon when it runs out of ammunition and a zombie grabs it out of his hand. The gun was also briefly used by Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) to incapacitate the undead Ben Cozine early on in the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870w618Surefire.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun with Model 618 Surefire Light mounted in front - 12 gauge. This is the version used in the film.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth carrying his [[Remington 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of Kenneth's Remington 870.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth shoots a lock off a door with his 870.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth aims his 870 at a zombie attacking Luda (Inna Korobkina).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-5.jpg |thumb|none|601px|Kenneth's Remington 870 on the floor while he fights with a zombie in the mall's fountain.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-6.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) fires Kenneth's [[Remington 870]] at a zombie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth fires his Police 870 while fighting toward the BP truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_Comparison_3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Clear (and final) view of Kenneth's Police 870.  Note the placement of the pump on the length of the magazine, as well as the length of the barrel.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870 (Express Tactical)==&lt;br /&gt;
During the dash to the truck, Kenneth's Police 870 turns into an Express Tactical model (as evidenced by the factory-extended 7-shot tube) with the same Surefire flashlight combination forend.  This weapon is seen when the weapon is taken from Kenneth by encroaching zombies and more clearly in the extended version in a removed sequence of Kenneth shooting a zombie in the head at close-range.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Remington_870_Express_Tactical_(factory).jpg|500px|thumb|none|Remington 870 Express Tactical with synthetic furniture and factory-extended 7-shot tube.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth struggles to level the weapon at the zombie.  Notice the length of the tube in relation to the muzzle and the lens of the Surefire forend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth fires; the tube length is still slightly discernible here.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth lets his weapon get ripped away to save himself.  The tube length is still extended, and we can also see that it is not an aftermarket extension accessory but a solid factory extension, thereby proving that this is a completely different gun than the one seen previous to this.  However, because it retains the original hero gun's Surefire forend, the original must have been on hand to be able to dress the Express Tactical to resemble it.  Regardless, it is clear that the original was indeed replaced with this one for unknown reasons during the filming of this short sequence.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Customized Remington 870==&lt;br /&gt;
After the survivors rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth) and load up at the gun store, Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) packs a customized [[Remington 870]] shotgun fitted with a magazine extension tube and Mossberg-style ghost ring sights (this is possible since some parts are easily swapped between Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 series shotguns) and uses it while the remaining survivors make their escape out of Milwaukee. Kenneth most notably uses this shotgun on a zombified Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]). Ving also knows how to use a weapon effectively, because he doesn't flinch excessively and whenever he isn't firing, he demonstrates the excellent trigger discipline of a Marine.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Custom870wMossbergGhostRing.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Custom Remington 870 combat shotgun with extended magazine tube and Mossberg Ghost Ring sights - 12 Gauge. (Identical configuration to the shotgun in the film: This weapon was assembled and built specially for IMFDB by [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth with the newly acquired [[Remington 870|Custom Remington 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth with his Custom 870 in the gunstore]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg4.jpg|thumb|none|602px|Kenneth fires his 870.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the ejection port on Kenneth's [[Remington 870|Custom 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth gets out of the bus with his Remington 870 in hand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth fires his [[Remington 870|Custom Remington 870]] at the docks.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870 (Non Gun)==&lt;br /&gt;
When escaping from the gun store, Tucker's shotgun appears to switch from a Mossberg 500 Cruiser to a short [[Remington 870]] [[Non Gun]] version.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Remington Non Gun.jpg|thumb|none|451px|Remington 870 &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Tucker fires his [[Remington 870]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DOTD04 27.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Non Gun gives off the telltale &amp;quot;poof&amp;quot; of smoke.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500 Cruiser==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the survivors, Tucker ([[Boyd Banks]]) has a [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] with a pistol grip. This weapon is also used by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) and CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]).&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mossbergcruiser1.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tucker fires a [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] as he and Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) are atop a truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth turns off the safety on the [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] while it is in Michael's possession.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Franchi PA8==&lt;br /&gt;
When the survivors load up at the Andy's ([[Bruce Bohne]]) gun store, CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) arms himself with a [[Franchi PA8]] with a factory folding stock and high-capacity magazine tube, and uses it while they make their escape out of Milwaukee. From the report of the gun and the look of the wounds it inflicts, it seems he is using rifled slugs. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Franchi_PA8_-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Franchi PA8 - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_15.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A [[Franchi PA8]] with folding stock and high-capacity magazine tube on a gun rack.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ unloads several 12 Ga. shotgun shells into a horde of zombies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
==Winchester Model 70==&lt;br /&gt;
Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]), the owner of the gun store across the street, is armed with what appears to be a [[Winchester Model 70]] fitted in a camouflage-painted stock with a folding bipod which he uses to play &amp;quot;Hollywood Squares&amp;quot; with the other survivors stranded in the mall on the other side of the street in which Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) shows Andy a celebrity's name on a dry erase board, and Andy puts a bullet in the zombie look-a-like's head. CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) later uses Andy's rifle to explode a propane tank to clear a path to the sewers for the other survivors.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Win70Camo.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 70 with a Realtree camouflage paint scheme - .30-06]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_M40.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) with the sniper rifle as seen through Kenneth's binoculars.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_M40_2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ about to fire the rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-M40-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Closeup of the Trigger guard as CJ fires the rifle.  Note the bolt action is consistent with the Winchester.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-M40-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ holds the rifle after blowing up the propane tank.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36==&lt;br /&gt;
During the opening credits during one of the news broadcasts, a soldier in Istanbul can be seen firing a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36]] assault rifle (fitted with a G36C-style carry handle) before being overwhelmed by zombies.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:G36.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36 - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_G36.jpg|thumb|601px|none|During the opening credits, pixelated news footage shows a UN soldier in Istanbul firing a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== M16A2 ==&lt;br /&gt;
News footage shows US soldiers with the [[M16A2]] rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 Rifle - 5.56x45mm. Select Fire rifle (Safe/Semi/3 round Burst Only).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_545.jpg|thumb|none|601px|News footage shows US soldiers with the [[M16A2]] rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Machine Guns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Customized M249==&lt;br /&gt;
In the opening credits during one of the various news broadcasts, a soldier (cameo by director [[Zack Snyder]]) can be seen firing an [[FN_Minimi#M249-E1_.2F_M249-E2_.2F_M249_Paratrooper_SAW|M249 SAW]] in front of the U.S. Capitol.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M249ParaWAmmo.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M249 machine gun, paratrooper version - 5.56x45mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_SAW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the opening credit sequence, pixelated news footage shows a soldier (played by director [[Zack Snyder]]) firing a nigh-unidentifiable machine gun in front of the U.S. Capitol.  Note the tall front sight.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Zack_Snyder_DotD_cameo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A behind the scenes photo showing Snyder with the machine gun.  Originally, it was thought this weapon was an [[M60_machine_gun#M60E4_Machine_Gun|M60E4 Machine Gun]], but based on the grip style, the carry handle, the box magazine, and the front sight, this photo shows that it is very clearly an FN Minimi that has been customized to perhaps look like a paratrooper model.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=DVD Special Feature &amp;quot;Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed&amp;quot;=&lt;br /&gt;
An extra featurette on the DVD release features a 'recovered home video' of the gun store owner Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]), and his dealing with the zombie outbreak from (mostly) inside his gun shop. In this featurette, the following firearms are seen -&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2==&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen carrying around an [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2]] with a Surefire forend weaponlight, but is never seen firing it.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:2MP5A2.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2 with Surefire 628 dedicated forend weaponlight - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-MP5-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''&amp;quot;Anybody wants to crash this dinner party, they're gonna get some copper coated candy for dessert!&amp;quot;''.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD-Andy-MP5-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andy with his MP5A2.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Safari Arms .45==&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen carrying around a Safari Arms .45 with a Surefire 310R/610R flashlight attachment mounted on.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-M1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Closeup of Andy's Safari Arms .45 before going to get the food sent to him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer SSG 3000==&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen with what looks like a [[SIG-Sauer SSG 3000]]. Although he used a [[Winchester Model 70]] in the film, it's quite possible that it could have been one of the many other guns in Andy's store.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SSG3000.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SIG-Sauer SSG 3000 with Harris bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-Sniper-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of Andy's SIG-Sauer SSG 3000.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-Sniper-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andy with his SIG-Sauer SSG 3000.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''''Dawn of the Dead''''' is the 2004 remake of the [[Dawn of the Dead (1978)|1978 George Romero horror classic of the same name]].   Directed by [[Zack Snyder]], the film follows a group of survivors who take refuge in a shopping mall following a virus outbreak that have turned infected humans into cannibalistic zombies.   The film's cast includes [[Sarah Polley]], [[Ving Rhames]], [[Michael Kelly]], [[Mekhi Phifer]], and [[Jake Weber]].&lt;br /&gt;
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=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
==Beretta 92FS Inox==&lt;br /&gt;
Andre ([[Mekhi Phifer]]) uses a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] as his weapon of choice. This pistol is also used  by other characters, mainly CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) when he clears out the lower level of the mall of any zombies. Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) also gets a hold of this weapon when he disarms CJ and holds it on him during the argument on the rooftop of the mall. Steve ([[Ty Burrell]]) can also been seen with a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] with blued components (trigger, hammer, safety, disassembly latch, and slide release) when he gets out of the crashed bus, a continuity error is seen when the referred parts are stainless when he checks the gun's load.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS Inox - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andre ([[Mekhi Phifer]]) uses a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] against the zombies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andre firing his Beretta 92FS Inox at an approaching zombie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-8.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andre's Inox locks empty while holding off some zombies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andre taunts a zombie behind shatterproof glass with his 92FS Inox in hand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:05.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Andre with his Beretta in a promotional photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_0139.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Beretta is fired by Andre ([[Mekhi Phifer]]) during his confrontation.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-9.jpg|thumb|none|602px|Closeup of Andre's 92FS Inox during his confrontation with Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]). &amp;quot;Stainless&amp;quot; can clearly be seen underneath the front of the barrel.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-7.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth holds the [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] on CJ after taking it away from him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ kills a zombie with Andre's Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-6.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) holds Andre's Beretta Inox on Kevin during the argument on the rooftop.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kevin is threatened with the Inox.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-10.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Steve picks up a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] after the bus he's in crashes - Notice how the trigger, hammer, safety, disassembly latch, and slide release are blued.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-11.jpg|thumb|none|601px|And now those parts are stainless when Steve checks the load.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_128.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Steve ([[Ty Burrell]]) raises the Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta 92FS==&lt;br /&gt;
While the survivors are loading up at the gun store, a [[Beretta 92FS]] is among the weapons to be taken. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta3.jpg|thumb|601px|none|A [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] and a [[Glock 36]] on a counter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 21==&lt;br /&gt;
After the survivors load up at the gun store, several [[Glock 21]] pistols are seen afterwards. CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) hands a pair of the pistols to a wounded Tucker ([[Boyd Banks]]) to fight off the zombies chasing them in the sewers while they make their way back to the mall, CJ also uses one of these pistols as his back up weapon, and uses it to to explode a propane tank while at the docks so that the zombies can't reach the remaining survivors.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock21.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 21 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of CJ's [[Glock 21]] firing. The muzzle flash indicates that this is an authentic blank-firing weapon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-6.jpg |thumb|none|600px|CJ fires his Glock 21 at a zombie in the stairwell.  The Glock seen here is a non gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DOTD04 37.jpg |thumb|none|600px|The telltale &amp;quot;poof&amp;quot; of smoke indicates the Non Gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) firing his Glock while in the bus.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ uses his Glock to hold off the zombies. This shot shows the slide reads &amp;quot;.45 Auto&amp;quot;, making it a 21.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A magazine drops out of CJ's Glock, &amp;quot;.45&amp;quot; can be seen engraved at the top of the magazine, this also suggests the model of the gun is a [[Glock 21]] chambered in .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-5.jpg|thumb|none|602px|CJ uses his Glock 21 to ignite a flare before shooting a propane tank, causing the bus he's in to explode. '''Trivia note:''' Michael Kelly did actually ignite the flare by firing the blank gun close to it, something the crew did not expect to happen on the first take.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP==&lt;br /&gt;
When Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]), CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]), Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]), and Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) enter Andy's gun store to rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth), they find an unloaded [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]] laying on the bloody floor. This is presumed to be the gun Andy was using to fend off zombies while letting the dog Chips, outfitted with food, through a doggy door before being bitten and infected by a zombie. This pistol is seen in the hands of Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) at the end.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:USP9mm.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_130.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) with the pistol as seen through Kenneth's binoculars.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_USP.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andy's unloaded USP is seen on the bloody floor.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_107.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pistol is seen in the hands of Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) while he stands on the dock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
In the beginning of the film when the zombie outbreak first starts, one of Ana's neighbors can be seen with an [[M1911A1]] pistol and threatening her to stay back before he is hit by an out of control ambulance.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ana's neighbor with a [[M1911A1]] pistol.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P229==&lt;br /&gt;
When the survivors are loading up at the gun store, a [[SIG-Sauer P229]] pistol is seen being taken off the counter.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SIGP229.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P229 - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Sig.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A [[SIG-Sauer P229]] is taken off the counter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Star Model B==&lt;br /&gt;
Ana and Michael are seen watching the movie ''[[Animal House]]'' where Kent &amp;quot;Flounder&amp;quot; Dorfman ([[Stephen Furst]]) fires a  [[Star_1911_Series#Star_Model_B|Star Model B]] loaded with blanks in order to take care of Neidermeyer's horse.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:StarPistolB.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Star Model B with blue finish - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_546.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The scene from ''[[Animal House]]'' where Flounder uses the pistol.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Revolvers=&lt;br /&gt;
==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27==&lt;br /&gt;
Two of the mall's security guards are seen with the [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]]. CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) is seen with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] .357 Magnum during his initial standoff with the other survivors.  The revolver also is seen in the hands of Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]). Later in the film, a struggle ensues between the survivors that are currently in the mall and the former security guards on whether or not to let more survivors into the mall with CJ threatening to kill everyone to stay alive, but when he is distracted, the survivors disarm both CJ and Bart ([[Michael Barry]]). The revolver is also seen in the hands of and then mainly used by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) for the rest of the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Model28g.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27 with 4&amp;quot; barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolvers.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] and Bart ([[Michael Barry]]) with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_19.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A Model 27 laying on a counter just before Michael picks it up.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04 141.jpg|thumb|none|600px| The revolver is seen in the hands of Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_57.jpg|thumb|none|600px| The revolver is used by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While in the gun store, the revolver is held by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|On the far right, the revolver is held by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13==&lt;br /&gt;
Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]) uses a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]] throughout the film. Bart ([[Michael Barry]]) can also be seen with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]] revolver before it is taken from him by the other survivors.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_13.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13 with 4-inch barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolvers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] and Bart with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bart ([[Michael Barry]]) with the [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]]. In the background, CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) wields a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_15.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]) draws his [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 (Snub)==&lt;br /&gt;
Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) uses a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66]] snub nose revolver as her weapon in the film. The weapon is also used by Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) and is also seen when the survivors go to rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth) at Andy's gun shop. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mod66wPachmayr.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Smith and Wesson Model 66 with 2.5&amp;quot; barrel (snub-nose) - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the center, Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) uses a stainless [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66]] Snub atop a truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_132.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) pulls her [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66]] snub during a confrontation.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_19-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Closeup of Norma's [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 Snub Nose]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W-19-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ using Norma's Model 66 Snub Nose outside Andy's Gun Works.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W-19-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Anna fires the Model 66 Snub on the dock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Revolver &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
During the fight to the gun store, CJ's hand is seen using a [[Non_Guns#Smith_.26_Wesson_66|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;]] against a zombie at close range, temporarily replacing the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 acquired from Norma.  Later, while the survivors make their escape out of Milwaukee, Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) uses the &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;, also temporarily replacing the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66, to put a bullet into the head of a zombified Steve ([[Ty Burrell]]). This &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot; was used because Polley was close to Burrell when shooting this scene, and at such close range, blanks can be considered unsafe, so a &amp;quot;non gun&amp;quot; was used.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Snubnongun.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Revolver Non-Gun commonly used to impersonate snub-nose or short-barreled Smith &amp;amp; Wesson K-frame revolvers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ's Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 acquired from Norma temporarily turns into the &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot; when killing a zombie at the BP truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Ana fires the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_67.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Non Gun gives off the telltale &amp;quot;poof&amp;quot; of smoke.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AnaFlash.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Promotional image gives a good view of the &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotguns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Remington 870 (Police Magnum)==&lt;br /&gt;
Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) uses a police issue [[Remington 870]] shotgun fitted with a Surefire flashlight attachment on the foregrip as his signature weapon. He uses it for most of the film until the survivors go to rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth). He loses the weapon when it runs out of ammunition and a zombie grabs it out of his hand. The gun was also briefly used by Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) to incapacitate the undead Ben Cozine early on in the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870w618Surefire.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun with Model 618 Surefire Light mounted in front - 12 gauge. This is the version used in the film.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth carrying his [[Remington 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of Kenneth's Remington 870.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth shoots a lock off a door with his 870.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth aims his 870 at a zombie attacking Luda (Inna Korobkina).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-5.jpg |thumb|none|601px|Kenneth's Remington 870 on the floor while he fights with a zombie in the mall's fountain.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-6.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) fires Kenneth's [[Remington 870]] at a zombie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth fires his Police 870 while fighting toward the BP truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_Comparison_3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Clear (and final) view of Kenneth's Police 870.  Note the placement of the pump on the length of the magazine, as well as the length of the barrel.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870 (Express Tactical)==&lt;br /&gt;
During the dash to the truck, Kenneth's Police 870 turns into an Express Tactical model (as evidenced by the factory-extended 7-shot tube) with the same Surefire flashlight combination forend.  This weapon is seen when the weapon is taken from Kenneth by encroaching zombies and more clearly in the extended version in a removed sequence of Kenneth shooting a zombie in the head at close-range.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Remington_870_Express_Tactical_(factory).jpg|601px|thumb|left|Remington 870 Express Tactical with synthetic furniture and factory-extended 7-shot tube.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth struggles to level the weapon at the zombie.  Notice the length of the tube in relation to the muzzle and the lens of the Surefire forend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth fires; the tube length is still slightly discernible here.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth lets his weapon get ripped away to save himself.  The tube length is still extended, and we can also see that it is not an aftermarket extension accessory but a solid factory extension, thereby proving that this is a completely different gun than the one seen previous to this.  However, because it retains the original hero gun's Surefire forend, the original must have been on hand to be able to dress the Express Tactical to resemble it.  Regardless, it is clear that the original was indeed replaced with this one for unknown reasons during the filming of this short sequence.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Customized Remington 870==&lt;br /&gt;
After the survivors rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth) and load up at the gun store, Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) packs a customized [[Remington 870]] shotgun fitted with a magazine extension tube and Mossberg-style ghost ring sights (this is possible since some parts are easily swapped between Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 series shotguns) and uses it while the remaining survivors make their escape out of Milwaukee. Kenneth most notably uses this shotgun on a zombified Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]). Ving also knows how to use a weapon effectively, because he doesn't flinch excessively and whenever he isn't firing, he demonstrates the excellent trigger discipline of a Marine.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Custom870wMossbergGhostRing.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Custom Remington 870 combat shotgun with extended magazine tube and Mossberg Ghost Ring sights - 12 Gauge. (Identical configuration to the shotgun in the film: This weapon was assembled and built specially for IMFDB by [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth with the newly acquired [[Remington 870|Custom Remington 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth with his Custom 870 in the gunstore]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg4.jpg|thumb|none|602px|Kenneth fires his 870.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the ejection port on Kenneth's [[Remington 870|Custom 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth gets out of the bus with his Remington 870 in hand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth fires his [[Remington 870|Custom Remington 870]] at the docks.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870 (Non Gun)==&lt;br /&gt;
When escaping from the gun store, Tucker's shotgun appears to switch from a Mossberg 500 Cruiser to a short [[Remington 870]] [[Non Gun]] version.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Remington Non Gun.jpg|thumb|none|451px|Remington 870 &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Tucker fires his [[Remington 870]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DOTD04 27.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Non Gun gives off the telltale &amp;quot;poof&amp;quot; of smoke.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500 Cruiser==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the survivors, Tucker ([[Boyd Banks]]) has a [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] with a pistol grip. This weapon is also used by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) and CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]).&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mossbergcruiser1.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tucker fires a [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] as he and Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) are atop a truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth turns off the safety on the [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] while it is in Michael's possession.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Franchi PA8==&lt;br /&gt;
When the survivors load up at the Andy's ([[Bruce Bohne]]) gun store, CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) arms himself with a [[Franchi PA8]] with a factory folding stock and high-capacity magazine tube, and uses it while they make their escape out of Milwaukee. From the report of the gun and the look of the wounds it inflicts, it seems he is using rifled slugs. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Franchi_PA8_-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Franchi PA8 - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_15.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A [[Franchi PA8]] with folding stock and high-capacity magazine tube on a gun rack.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ unloads several 12 Ga. shotgun shells into a horde of zombies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
==Winchester Model 70==&lt;br /&gt;
Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]), the owner of the gun store across the street, is armed with what appears to be a [[Winchester Model 70]] fitted in a camoflauged-painted stock with a folding bipod which he uses to play &amp;quot;Hollywood Squares&amp;quot; with the other survivors stranded in the mall on the other side of the street in which Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) shows Andy a celebrity's name on a dry erase board, and Andy puts a bullet in the zombie look-a-like's head. CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) later uses Andy's rifle to explode a propane tank to clear a path to the sewers for the other survivors.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Win70Camo.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_M40.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) with the sniper rifle as seen through Kenneth's binonoculars.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_M40_2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ about to fire the rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-M40-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Closeup of the Trigger guard as CJ fires the rifle.  Note the bolt action is consistent with the Winchester.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-M40-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ holds the rifle after blowing up the propane tank.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36==&lt;br /&gt;
During the opening credits during one of the news broadcasts, a soldier in Istanbul can be seen firing a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36]] assault rifle (fitted with a G36C-style carry handle) before being overwhelmed by zombies.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:G36.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36 - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_G36.jpg|thumb|601px|none|During the opening credits, pixelated news footage shows a UN soldier in Istanbul firing a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== M16A2 ==&lt;br /&gt;
News footage shows US soldiers with the [[M16A2]] rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 Rifle - 5.56x45mm. Select Fire rifle (Safe/Semi/3 round Burst Only).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_545.jpg|thumb|none|601px|News footage shows US soldiers with the [[M16A2]] rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Machine Guns=&lt;br /&gt;
==M60E4==&lt;br /&gt;
In the opening credits during one of the various news broadcasts, a soldier (played by director [[Zack Snyder]]) can be seen firing an [[M60_machine_gun#M60E4_Machine_Gun|M60E4 Machine Gun]] in front of the U.S. Capitol. Note the large triangular front sight.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M60E4 large.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60E4 machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_SAW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the opening credit sequence, pixelated news footage shows a soldier (played by director [[Zack Snyder]]) firing an [[M60_machine_gun#M60E4_Machine_Gun|M60E4 Machine Gun]] in front of the U.S. Capitol. Note the large triangular front sight.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=DVD Special Feature &amp;quot;Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed&amp;quot;=&lt;br /&gt;
An extra featurette on the DVD release features a 'recovered home video' of the gun store owner Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]), and his dealing with the zombie outbreak from (mostly) inside his gun shop. In this featurette, the following firearms are seen -&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2==&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen carrying around an [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2]] with a Flashlight attachment, but is never seen firing it.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:2MP5A2.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2 with Surefire 628 dedicated forend weaponlight - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-MP5-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''&amp;quot;Anybody wants to crash this dinner party, they're gonna get some copper coated candy for dessert!&amp;quot;''.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD-Andy-MP5-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andy with his MP5A2.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Safari Arms .45==&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen carrying around a Safari Arms .45 with a Surefire 310R/610R flashlight attachment mounted on.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-M1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Closeup of Andy's Safari Arms .45 before going to get the food sent to him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer SSG 3000==&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen with what looks like a [[SIG-Sauer SSG 3000]] although he used a [[Winchester Model 70]] in the film, but it's quite possible that it could have been one of the many other guns in Andy's store.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SSG3000.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SIG-Sauer SSG 3000 with Harris bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-Sniper-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of Andy's SIG-Sauer SSG 3000.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-Sniper-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andy with his SIG-Sauer SSG 3000.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Talk:Remington Model 870</title>
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=Additional Images=&lt;br /&gt;
==Screen Used==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Custom870wMossbergGhostRing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Custom Remington 870 combat shotgun with Mossberg Ghost Ring sights - this shotgun was built to resemble the shotgun used by [[Ving Rhames]] in 2004's ''[[Dawn of the Dead (2004)|Dawn of the Dead]]''.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Jamesgeorgopoulosthedarkknightjoker.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 with shortened barrel and shortened stock - 12 gauge.  This is the screen-used firearm seen handled by [[Heath Ledger]] and [[William Fichtner]] in ''[[The Dark Knight]]''.  '''Thanks to [[User:Jimmygcreative|James Georgopoulos]]'''.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remingt870WitProt Eli.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 &amp;quot;Witness Protection&amp;quot; Short Shotgun - .12 gauge. This is the actual screen gun used by [[Denzel Washington]] in ''[[The Book of Eli]]''.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:SBS4E5REM 870.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Remington 870 with Aimtec Warhammer rail system, FAB Defense stock and pump, MAGPUL Back-Up Sights, and 1st generation Bushnell Holosight - 12 gauge. This is the screen-used gun from ''[[Strike Back - Season 4]]'']]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Natural Born Killers Shotgun.jpg|600px|thumb|none|A prop photo of the Hero Customized Remington 870 used in ''[[Natural Born Killers]]''. Note it's misidentified as a Winchester Model 12.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Additional Variants==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:REMINGTON 870 EXPRESS TACTICAL PISTOL GRIP.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Express with TacStar pistol grip - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Black870folder.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with Folding Stock - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Rem870short.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Field with sawed-off stock and barrel - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870rail.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Shorted Remington 870 with a Pachmayr Vindicator pistol grip, receiver attached tri-rail, and tri-railed foregrip - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870entry.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Entry Gun - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington 870 Defender.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 with TacStar front and rear pistol grips - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Aow9723.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 with a sawed-off barrel and stock - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:870 shorty.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Short barreled Remington 870 with TacStar front and rear pistol grips - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Model870P Speedfeed RS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870P with rifle sights and SpeedFeed Standard Stock - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870 Express Tactical.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Express Tactical - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington 870 MCS CQB Breacher.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Police Breacher System - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870w618Surefire.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 with Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight - 12 gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870LL.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 &amp;quot;Less Lethal&amp;quot; - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870NewTacticalModel.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 New Police Tactical Model with Magpul CTR telescoping stock - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington 870 Express Tactical.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Express Tactical - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington 870 Knoxx Tactical A.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Express Tactical with KNOXX SpecOps NRS stock - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870M4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 fitted with a pistol grip, Surefire light, and M4-type stock - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:P1010021.JPG|thumb|none|601px|Short barreled Remington 870 with AR-15 stock and pistol grip adapter and full-length picatinny rail system - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Remington870Breach.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 with TacStar pistol grip and Breacher Muzzle - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Wilson 870.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wilson Customized Remington 870 shotgun with synthetic furniture, sling, weaponlight, rifle sights and a laser sight - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Remington 870 Police.jpg|thumb|none|551px|Remington 870 Police with extended magazine tube and Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870extmag.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with a 20&amp;quot; barrel, extended magazine tube, wood furniture and blued finish - 12 gauge (credit to [[User:Predator20|Predator 20]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Rem870PoliceBlack.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with black furniture and extended magazine tube - 12 gauge (credit to [[User:Predator20|Predator 20]])]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:4087239650 3fc96e1b79 o.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Express Synthetic with a SpecterGear SOP sling and shell carrier - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870shortM4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 shotgun with shortened barrel and M4 stock - 12 gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870 twotone.jpg‎|thumb|600px|none|Remington 870 Two Tone - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870Heatshield.JPG‎|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 with a heatshield - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remiongton Heatshield.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 with a heatshield - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RemingtonMod.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 with a heatshield, Surefire light - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:870trench.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Trench Shotgun - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:USMC870.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 with USMC configuration - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870Express.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Remington Model 870 Express - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington-870-lefthand.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Remington Model 870 Express Left-Hand, 28&amp;quot; vent-rib barrel - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:REM870exp_combo.jpeg|600px|thumb|none|Remington 870 Express Combo - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington-870Express-Camo-Trky.jpg|600px|thumb|none|Remington Model 870 Express Turkey Camo - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870PistolGrip-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 870 with a synthetic fore-end and a TacStar pistol grip - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:870-exp-ss-syn-cls-prod.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington Model 870 Express ShurShot Synthetic Cantilever - 12 gauge. Seen in the videogame ''[[Homefront (VG)|Homefront]]'', image from Remington's website.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870Butler.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 fitted with Butler Creek Tactical foregrip - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:870wngmstr16-prod.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Wingmaster - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870WingAP.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Wingmaster AP - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RemingtonModel870Wingmaster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Current Remington 870 Wingmaster - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:870marine mag-prod.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Special Purpose Marine - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Shorty870.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Short barreled Remington 870 with raised vented sight rib, Hogue Tamer pistol grip, and Pachmayr Vindicator foregrip - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Remington 870 Hogue.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 870P with Hogue pistol grip - 12 gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Remington 870 Express Tactical (factory).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Remington 870 Express Tactical with factory 7-shot extended tube magazine.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm adding additional variants of whatever type of gun to their talk page, to lessen up clutter and keep images already on file from being uploaded that aren't on the main gun page.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:17, 16 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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=Discussion=&lt;br /&gt;
== Remington wingmaster ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should we have a section for the Remington wingmaster?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Images ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm removing some of the images on this page because it's starting to get ridiculous how users are adding so many images to this page, especially when they are images that don't need to be here, or are very low quality. I'm sorry if I removed anyone's images, but this page is starting to become a cluttered mess, plus if one image was added in the Remington 870 section, it would have went into the Slug Gun section.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:31, 25 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please stop putting the different tipes of guns on the main page.--[[User:Dillinger|Dillinger]] 20:14, 26 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Can a Remington 870 be modified to accept a detachable box magazine? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw an airsoft gun the other day modeled after a Remington 870 with a receiver cover with picatinny rails, an M4 pistol grip, a telescoping stock, and a detatchable box magazine. Now I know it probably had the magazine just because it would work a lot better for an airsoft gun, but it got me thinking, can an 870 be adjusted to accept a box magazine?&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be based on the Valtro shotgun (which kind of looks like a Remington 870) or it might be able to be modified that way. For instance, there are pictures showing the Mossberg 500 can accept mags, so maybe it can. Not sure:&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/sidewinder.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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Nah I'm pretty sure it wasn't a Valtro. Thanks for the Mossberg pic. [[User:That&amp;amp;#39;s One Angry Duck|That&amp;amp;#39;s One Angry Duck]] 16:22, 31 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Could the weapon you are looking for be a pump action HAWK Tactical shotgun?[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:28, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Those airsoft ones only have the box magazines as the little plastic pellets don't work well in shells, and I'd expect for something reusable, that a non ejecting, higher capacity magazine would be more efficient than having to catch shells and re load them. As for the real one, I have never seen one. Maybe some vague conversion, but I have only seen 870's tube fed.--Fnlover 00:48, 7 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Airsoft shotgun shells are re-usable, most of them aren't shell ejecting either. The spring shotgun shells are fantastic, you get 10 shots out of them as they fire 3 shots at the same time on the tri-shot versions. Having a magazine loaded one is just to make it cheaper to manufacture. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 02:35, 12 January 2012 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
Well the Chinese make a Remington 870 Knockoff that does take fiver round magazines. They can't be imported to the US but they are available in Canada with barrel lenghts between 12.5 and 18.5 inches. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 17:32, 18 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Chinese shotguns are exempt from the ban, but must still comply with SBS laws. The Dominion Arms Grizzly is available with barrels as short as 8.5&amp;quot; in Canada (manual action rifles and shotguns can have any factory-length barrel so long as the overall length is at least 26&amp;quot;). They also made an 1100 with a four round detachable box magazine. --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 23:34, 8 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Custom 870 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-342888.jpg|thumb|none|500px|From [[Training Day]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MarineRem870-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|From [[The Marine]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there still no ID Image of this configuration? The 870 looks sweet with the heat shield and bayonet mount! I also realised this gun has no stock whereas Terminator 3 does.-   [[Special:Contributions/89.241.9.74|89.241.9.74]]&lt;br /&gt;
:We have one image with the heat shield and another with the bayonet mount. So I used those two images. One with a full stock was also used in [[Natural Born Killers]]. Not that I would ever run around with a bayonet on mine, I would love to configure one of my 870's with the heat shield and bayonet mount. It looks so tough and rugged. But I think those bayonet mounts are hard to find.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:29, 5 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no 'off the shelf' configuration for this item. The heat-shield would come and go, but the bayonet lug was standard on a lot of old Army/Navy 870's. If you search 'Navy 870 bayonet lug', you will probably find a little info. You can find them for sale on some of the larger 'gun exchange' site, but they're up around $250 now. A shame. --[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 22:31, 11 January 2012 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It's either a mid 80's refit of a USMC gun that's had the Air Force heat shield added on, or a gun modified with the Air Force/ USMC Refit/ Police bayonet mount/ barrel band and a heat shield. In the mid '80s refit of the Mk 1s the DoD replaced the 21&amp;quot; Imp Cyl Rifle sighted barrel with a non iron sight barrel, and replaced the blade sight bayonet mount/ barrel band with a bead sight model. The gun can be differentiated from the Air Force issued models due to it having a 21&amp;quot; Marine Corps barrel vs the 20&amp;quot; barrel that the Air Force specified (20&amp;quot; barrels are flush with the front of the mount.--[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] ([[User talk:Ranger01|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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== Witness Protection? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is the sawn-off version of the 870 called that?&lt;br /&gt;
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First off sign your posts.&lt;br /&gt;
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The model with the &amp;quot;dogbone&amp;quot; pistol grip and the 12 inch barrel was origionally created by Wilson Arms for the US Marshals service for their witness protection teams. Since then Remington shotguns in that configuration have been called &amp;quot;Witness protection&amp;quot; models. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 17:29, 18 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magazine Tubes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is there a difference between an &amp;quot;extended&amp;quot; magazine tube and a &amp;quot;high capacity&amp;quot; magazine tube, or are they different terms for the same feature? - [[User: 2wingo]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I believe they're the same thing. Normal capacity on an 870 is 4+1. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 01:17, 15 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::And what is the capacity for the extended magazine? Is it 7+1 or 8+1? (or both are possible?) --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 04:35, 31 August 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::According to Brownells' site, there are magazine extensions available up to 5 rounds, which could increase the capacity to up to 11+1 if you use a 6 shell magazine. You'd need a ~30&amp;quot; barrel so it wouldn't extend past the muzzle. --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 23:40, 8 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hi there...usually we just talk about &amp;quot;magazine tube extensions&amp;quot;, but especially Mossberg like to use the term &amp;quot;high capacity&amp;quot; for the same parts; then the confusion is perfect! Otherwise the term &amp;quot;high capacity&amp;quot; is used too to describe larger magazine types like the Beta C-Mag or related systems (Drum-, Pan- and Helical-Magazines). There are also larger box-magazines for M4/M16/AR-15 variants from Surefire, 60-&amp;amp; 100rds...Surefire called them &amp;quot;High Capacity Magazines&amp;quot; too! There are several tubes with different capacities for shotguns. It goes from 1 to 9 (Benelli); it just depends of the barrel length. --[[User:Biskaya|Biskaya]] ([[User talk:Biskaya|talk]]) 17:18, 3 March 2015 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Remington 870 MCS ==&lt;br /&gt;
The original Remington 870 was produced in 1951, but in what year was the MCS variant produced? --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 04:35, 31 August 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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1969 production, general refits around the mid '80s (the DoD ordered new bayo mounts around this time)for the Mk1. The MCS kit was introduced around 2004 IIRC.--[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] ([[User talk:Ranger01|talk]])&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>The Dark Tower</title>
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|country=[[Image:USA.jpg|25px]] United States&lt;br /&gt;
|director=Nikolaj Arcel&lt;br /&gt;
|date=2017&lt;br /&gt;
|language=English&lt;br /&gt;
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|character1=Roland Deschain&lt;br /&gt;
|actor1=[[Idris Elba]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character2=Walter Padick&lt;br /&gt;
|actor2=[[Matthew McConaughey]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character3=Jake Chambers&lt;br /&gt;
|actor3=Tom Taylor&lt;br /&gt;
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'''''The Dark Tower''''' is the 2017 upcoming fantasy feature film adaptation of the series of novels written by [[Stephen King]].  The film was directed by Nikolaj Arcel and stars [[Idris Elba]] as Roland Deschain, aka &amp;quot;The Gunslinger&amp;quot; and [[Matthew McConaughey]] as Walter Padick. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Custom Remington 1858 New Army==&lt;br /&gt;
Roland Deschain ([[Idris Elba]]) appears to carry dual customized [[Remington 1858 New Army]] revolvers as his weapons of choice.  These revolvers have customized cylinders and double action triggers. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington1858-1.jpg|thumb|none|325px|Remington 1858 New Army Percussion - .44 Caliber.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Gunslinger ([[Idris Elba]]) with his custom [[Remington 1858]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Darktower0001.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Gunslinger's custom gun belt, with both individual cartridges and 6-round &amp;quot;moon clips.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The two-stage firing is seen. The trigger is pulled and sparks fly from the cylinder...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...and then the muzzle flashes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Gunslinger does an impressive speed-load, tossing cartridges into his revolver. The custom swing-out cylinder is seen here on the right-hand gun (the left hand gun's cylinder swings out on the opposite side).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While this shot is blurry, the left-hand gun's cylinder clearly swings out the right side of the gun so it swings inward in relation to the Gunslinger's hand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Gunslinger practices his grip with Jake ([[Tom Taylor]]). Note that while both guns are seen with swing-out cylinders, no cylinder release latches are seen.  Also note the double action-style triggers extended toward the center of the triggerguard.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Gunslinger fires his Remington.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 09.jpg|thumb|none|602px|The Gunslinger aims his Remington, which starts to glow and show the custom engraving.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 10.jpg|thumb|none|602px|The best shot of the Remington in the trailer, showing what appear to be .36 or .38 caliber chambers (one of which appears to be loaded).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==CAA Tactical RONI==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[CAA Tactical RONI]] also appears to be used.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CAA RONI-SI1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|CAA Tactical RONI-SI1 with a SIG-Sauer P226 mounted underneath with foregrip extended out.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DarkT_101.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 19==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Glock 19]]  also appears to be used.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock19pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Glock 19 (3rd Generation) - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DarkT_102.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Stephen King]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Dawn of the Dead (2004)</title>
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'''''Dawn of the Dead''''' is the 2004 remake of the [[Dawn of the Dead (1978)|1978 George Romero horror classic of the same name]].   Directed by [[Zack Snyder]], the film follows a group of survivors who take refuge in a shopping mall following a virus outbreak that have turned infected humans into cannibalistic zombies.   The film's cast includes [[Sarah Polley]], [[Ving Rhames]], [[Michael Kelly]], [[Mekhi Phifer]], and [[Jake Weber]].&lt;br /&gt;
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=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
==Beretta 92FS Inox==&lt;br /&gt;
Andre ([[Mekhi Phifer]]) uses a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] as his weapon of choice. This pistol is also used  by other characters, mainly CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) when he clears out the lower level of the mall of any zombies. Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) also gets a hold of this weapon when he disarms CJ and holds it on him during the argument on the rooftop of the mall. Steve ([[Ty Burrell]]) can also been seen with a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] with blued components (trigger, hammer, safety, disassembly latch, and slide release) when he gets out of the crashed bus, a continuity error is seen when the referred parts are stainless when he checks the gun's load.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS Inox - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andre ([[Mekhi Phifer]]) uses a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] against the zombies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andre firing his Beretta 92FS Inox at an approaching zombie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-8.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andre's Inox locks empty while holding off some zombies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andre taunts a zombie behind shatterproof glass with his 92FS Inox in hand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:05.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Andre with his Beretta in a promotional photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_0139.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Beretta is fired by Andre ([[Mekhi Phifer]]) during his confrontation.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-9.jpg|thumb|none|602px|Closeup of Andre's 92FS Inox during his confrontation with Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]). &amp;quot;Stainless&amp;quot; can clearly be seen underneath the front of the barrel.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-7.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth holds the [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] on CJ after taking it away from him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ kills a zombie with Andre's Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-6.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) holds Andre's Beretta Inox on Kevin during the argument on the rooftop.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kevin is threatened with the Inox.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-10.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Steve picks up a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] after the bus he's in crashes - Notice how the trigger, hammer, safety, disassembly latch, and slide release are blued.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-11.jpg|thumb|none|601px|And now those parts are stainless when Steve checks the load.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_128.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Steve ([[Ty Burrell]]) raises the Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta 92FS==&lt;br /&gt;
While the survivors are loading up at the gun store, a [[Beretta 92FS]] is among the weapons to be taken. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta3.jpg|thumb|601px|none|A [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] and a [[Glock 36]] on a counter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 21==&lt;br /&gt;
After the survivors load up at the gun store, several [[Glock 21]] pistols are seen afterwards. CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) hands a pair of the pistols to a wounded Tucker ([[Boyd Banks]]) to fight off the zombies chasing them in the sewers while they make their way back to the mall, CJ also uses one of these pistols as his back up weapon, and uses it to to explode a propane tank while at the docks so that the zombies can't reach the remaining survivors.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock21.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 21 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of CJ's [[Glock 21]] firing. The muzzle flash indicates that this is an authentic blank-firing weapon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-6.jpg |thumb|none|600px|CJ fires his Glock 21 at a zombie in the stairwell.  The Glock seen here is a non gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DOTD04 37.jpg |thumb|none|600px|The telltale &amp;quot;poof&amp;quot; of smoke indicates the Non Gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) firing his Glock while in the bus.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ uses his Glock to hold off the zombies. This shot shows the slide reads &amp;quot;.45 Auto&amp;quot;, making it a 21.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A magazine drops out of CJ's Glock, &amp;quot;.45&amp;quot; can be seen engraved at the top of the magazine, this also suggests the model of the gun is a [[Glock 21]] chambered in .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-5.jpg|thumb|none|602px|CJ uses his Glock 21 to ignite a flare before shooting a propane tank, causing the bus he's in to explode. '''Trivia note:''' Michael Kelly did actually ignite the flare by firing the blank gun close to it, something the crew did not expect to happen on the first take.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP==&lt;br /&gt;
When Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]), CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]), Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]), and Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) enter Andy's gun store to rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth), they find an unloaded [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]] laying on the bloody floor. This is presumed to be the gun Andy was using to fend off zombies while letting the dog Chips, outfitted with food, through a doggy door before being bitten and infected by a zombie. This pistol is seen in the hands of Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) at the end.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:USP9mm.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_130.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) with the pistol as seen through Kenneth's binoculars.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_USP.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andy's unloaded USP is seen on the bloody floor.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_107.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pistol is seen in the hands of Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) while he stands on the dock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
In the beginning of the film when the zombie outbreak first starts, one of Ana's neighbors can be seen with an [[M1911A1]] pistol and threatening her to stay back before he is hit by an out of control ambulance.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ana's neighbor with a [[M1911A1]] pistol.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P229==&lt;br /&gt;
When the survivors are loading up at the gun store, a [[SIG-Sauer P229]] pistol is seen being taken off the counter.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SIGP229.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P229 - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Sig.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A [[SIG-Sauer P229]] is taken off the counter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Star Model B==&lt;br /&gt;
Ana and Michael are seen watching the movie ''[[Animal House]]'' where Kent &amp;quot;Flounder&amp;quot; Dorfman ([[Stephen Furst]]) fires a  [[Star_1911_Series#Star_Model_B|Star Model B]] loaded with blanks in order to take care of Neidermeyer's horse.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:StarPistolB.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Star Model B with blue finish - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_546.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The scene from ''[[Animal House]]'' where Flounder uses the pistol.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Revolvers=&lt;br /&gt;
==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27==&lt;br /&gt;
Two of the mall's security guards are seen with the [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]]. CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) is seen with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] .357 Magnum during his initial standoff with the other survivors.  The revolver also is seen in the hands of Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]). Later in the film, a struggle ensues between the survivors that are currently in the mall and the former security guards on whether or not to let more survivors into the mall with CJ threatening to kill everyone to stay alive, but when he is distracted, the survivors disarm both CJ and Bart ([[Michael Barry]]). The revolver is also seen in the hands of and then mainly used by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) for the rest of the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Model28g.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27 with 4&amp;quot; barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolvers.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] and Bart ([[Michael Barry]]) with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_19.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A Model 27 laying on a counter just before Michael picks it up.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04 141.jpg|thumb|none|600px| The revolver is seen in the hands of Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_57.jpg|thumb|none|600px| The revolver is used by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While in the gun store, the revolver is held by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|On the far right, the revolver is held by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13==&lt;br /&gt;
Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]) uses a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]] throughout the film. Bart ([[Michael Barry]]) can also be seen with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]] revolver before it is taken from him by the other survivors.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_13.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13 with 4-inch barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolvers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] and Bart with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bart ([[Michael Barry]]) with the [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]]. In the background, CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) wields a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_15.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]) draws his [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 (Snub)==&lt;br /&gt;
Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) uses a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66]] snub nose revolver as her weapon in the film. The weapon is also used by Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) and is also seen when the survivors go to rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth) at Andy's gun shop. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mod66wPachmayr.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Smith and Wesson Model 66 with 2.5&amp;quot; barrel (snub-nose) - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the center, Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) uses a stainless [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66]] Snub atop a truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_132.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) pulls her [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66]] snub during a confrontation.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_19-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Closeup of Norma's [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 Snub Nose]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W-19-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ using Norma's Model 66 Snub Nose outside Andy's Gun Works.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W-19-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Anna fires the Model 66 Snub on the dock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Revolver &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
During the fight to the gun store, CJ's hand is seen using a [[Non_Guns#Smith_.26_Wesson_66|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;]] against a zombie at close range, temporarily replacing the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 acquired from Norma.  Later, while the survivors make their escape out of Milwaukee, Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) uses the &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;, also temporarily replacing the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66, to put a bullet into the head of a zombified Steve ([[Ty Burrell]]). This &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot; was used because Polley was close to Burrell when shooting this scene, and at such close range, blanks can be considered unsafe, so a &amp;quot;non gun&amp;quot; was used.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Snubnongun.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Revolver Non-Gun commonly used to impersonate snub-nose or short-barreled Smith &amp;amp; Wesson K-frame revolvers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ's Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 acquired from Norma temporarily turns into the &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot; when killing a zombie at the BP truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Ana fires the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_67.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Non Gun gives off the telltale &amp;quot;poof&amp;quot; of smoke.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AnaFlash.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Promotional image gives a good view of the &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotguns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Remington 870 (Police Magnum)==&lt;br /&gt;
Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) uses a police issue [[Remington 870]] shotgun fitted with a Surefire flashlight attachment on the foregrip as his signature weapon. He uses it for most of the film until the survivors go to rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth). He loses the weapon when it runs out of ammunition and a zombie grabs it out of his hand. The gun was also briefly used by Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) to incapacitate the undead Ben Cozine early on in the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870w618Surefire.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun with Model 618 Surefire Light mounted in front - 12 gauge. This is the version used in the film.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth carrying his [[Remington 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of Kenneth's Remington 870.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth shoots a lock off a door with his 870.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth aims his 870 at a zombie attacking Luda (Inna Korobkina).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-5.jpg |thumb|none|601px|Kenneth's Remington 870 on the floor while he fights with a zombie in the mall's fountain.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-6.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) fires Kenneth's [[Remington 870]] at a zombie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth fires his Police 870 while fighting toward the BP truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_Comparison_3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Clear (and final) view of Kenneth's Police 870.  Note the placement of the pump on the length of the magazine, as well as the length of the barrel.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870 (Express Tactical)==&lt;br /&gt;
During the dash to the truck, Kenneth's Police 870 turns into an Express Tactical model (as evidenced by the factory-extended 7-shot tube) with the same Surefire flashlight combination forend.  This weapon is seen when the weapon is taken from Kenneth by encroaching zombies and more clearly in the extended version in a removed sequence of Kenneth shooting a zombie in the head at close-range.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Remington_870_Express_Tactical_(factory).jpg|601px|thumb|left|Remington 870 Express Tactical with synthetic furniture and factory-extended 7-shot tube.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth struggles to level the weapon at the zombie.  Notice the length of the tube in relation to the muzzle and the lens of the Surefire forend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth fires; the tube length is still slightly discernible here.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth lets his weapon get ripped away to save himself.  The tube length is still extended, and we can also see that it is not an aftermarket extension accessory but a solid factory extension, thereby proving that this is a completely different gun than the one seen previous to this.  However, because it retains the original hero gun's Surefire forend, so the original must have been on hand to be able to dress the Express Tactical to resemble it and then replaced for unknown reasons.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Customized Remington 870==&lt;br /&gt;
After the survivors rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth) and load up at the gun store, Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) packs a customized [[Remington 870]] shotgun fitted with a magazine extension tube and Mossberg-style ghost ring sights (this is possible since some parts are easily swapped between Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 series shotguns) and uses it while the remaining survivors make their escape out of Milwaukee. Kenneth most notably uses this shotgun on a zombified Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]). Ving also knows how to use a weapon effectively, because he doesn't flinch excessively and whenever he isn't firing, he demonstrates the excellent trigger discipline of a Marine.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Custom870wMossbergGhostRing.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Custom Remington 870 combat shotgun with extended magazine tube and Mossberg Ghost Ring sights - 12 Gauge. (Identical configuration to the shotgun in the film: This weapon was assembled and built specially for IMFDB by [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth with the newly acquired [[Remington 870|Custom Remington 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth with his Custom 870 in the gunstore]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg4.jpg|thumb|none|602px|Kenneth fires his 870.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the ejection port on Kenneth's [[Remington 870|Custom 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth gets out of the bus with his Remington 870 in hand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth fires his [[Remington 870|Custom Remington 870]] at the docks.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870 (Non Gun)==&lt;br /&gt;
When escaping from the gun store, Tucker's shotgun appears to switch from a Mossberg 500 Cruiser to a short [[Remington 870]] [[Non Gun]] version.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Remington Non Gun.jpg|thumb|none|451px|Remington 870 &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Tucker fires his [[Remington 870]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DOTD04 27.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Non Gun gives off the telltale &amp;quot;poof&amp;quot; of smoke.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500 Cruiser==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the survivors, Tucker ([[Boyd Banks]]) has a [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] with a pistol grip. This weapon is also used by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) and CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]).&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mossbergcruiser1.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tucker fires a [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] as he and Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) are atop a truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth turns off the safety on the [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] while it is in Michael's possession.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Franchi PA8==&lt;br /&gt;
When the survivors load up at the Andy's ([[Bruce Bohne]]) gun store, CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) arms himself with a [[Franchi PA8]] with a factory folding stock and high-capacity magazine tube, and uses it while they make their escape out of Milwaukee. From the report of the gun and the look of the wounds it inflicts, it seems he is using rifled slugs. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Franchi_PA8_-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Franchi PA8 - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_15.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A [[Franchi PA8]] with folding stock and high-capacity magazine tube on a gun rack.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ unloads several 12 Ga. shotgun shells into a horde of zombies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
==Winchester Model 70==&lt;br /&gt;
Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]), the owner of the gun store across the street, is armed with what appears to be a [[Winchester Model 70]] fitted in a camoflauged-painted stock with a folding bipod which he uses to play &amp;quot;Hollywood Squares&amp;quot; with the other survivors stranded in the mall on the other side of the street in which Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) shows Andy a celebrity's name on a dry erase board, and Andy puts a bullet in the zombie look-a-like's head. CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) later uses Andy's rifle to explode a propane tank to clear a path to the sewers for the other survivors.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Win70Camo.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_M40.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) with the sniper rifle as seen through Kenneth's binonoculars.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_M40_2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ about to fire the rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-M40-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Closeup of the Trigger guard as CJ fires the rifle.  Note the bolt action is consistent with the Winchester.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-M40-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ holds the rifle after blowing up the propane tank.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36==&lt;br /&gt;
During the opening credits during one of the news broadcasts, a soldier in Istanbul can be seen firing a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36]] assault rifle (fitted with a G36C-style carry handle) before being overwhelmed by zombies.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:G36.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36 - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_G36.jpg|thumb|601px|none|During the opening credits, pixelated news footage shows a UN soldier in Istanbul firing a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== M16A2 ==&lt;br /&gt;
News footage shows US soldiers with the [[M16A2]] rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 Rifle - 5.56x45mm. Select Fire rifle (Safe/Semi/3 round Burst Only).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_545.jpg|thumb|none|601px|News footage shows US soldiers with the [[M16A2]] rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Machine Guns=&lt;br /&gt;
==M60E4==&lt;br /&gt;
In the opening credits during one of the various news broadcasts, a soldier (played by director [[Zack Snyder]]) can be seen firing an [[M60_machine_gun#M60E4_Machine_Gun|M60E4 Machine Gun]] in front of the U.S. Capitol. Note the large triangular front sight.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M60E4 large.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60E4 machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_SAW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the opening credit sequence, pixelated news footage shows a soldier (played by director [[Zack Snyder]]) firing an [[M60_machine_gun#M60E4_Machine_Gun|M60E4 Machine Gun]] in front of the U.S. Capitol. Note the large triangular front sight.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=DVD Special Feature &amp;quot;Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed&amp;quot;=&lt;br /&gt;
An extra featurette on the DVD release features a 'recovered home video' of the gun store owner Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]), and his dealing with the zombie outbreak from (mostly) inside his gun shop. In this featurette, the following firearms are seen -&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2==&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen carrying around an [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2]] with a Flashlight attachment, but is never seen firing it.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:2MP5A2.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2 with Surefire 628 dedicated forend weaponlight - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-MP5-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''&amp;quot;Anybody wants to crash this dinner party, they're gonna get some copper coated candy for dessert!&amp;quot;''.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD-Andy-MP5-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andy with his MP5A2.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Safari Arms .45==&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen carrying around a Safari Arms .45 with a Surefire 310R/610R flashlight attachment mounted on.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-M1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Closeup of Andy's Safari Arms .45 before going to get the food sent to him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer SSG 3000==&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen with what looks like a [[SIG-Sauer SSG 3000]] although he used a [[Winchester Model 70]] in the film, but it's quite possible that it could have been one of the many other guns in Andy's store.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SSG3000.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SIG-Sauer SSG 3000 with Harris bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-Sniper-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of Andy's SIG-Sauer SSG 3000.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-Sniper-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andy with his SIG-Sauer SSG 3000.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Dawn of the Dead (2004)</title>
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'''''Dawn of the Dead''''' is the 2004 remake of the [[Dawn of the Dead (1978)|1978 George Romero horror classic of the same name]].   Directed by [[Zack Snyder]], the film follows a group of survivors who take refuge in a shopping mall following a virus outbreak that have turned infected humans into cannibalistic zombies.   The film's cast includes [[Sarah Polley]], [[Ving Rhames]], [[Michael Kelly]], [[Mekhi Phifer]], and [[Jake Weber]].&lt;br /&gt;
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=Pistols=&lt;br /&gt;
==Beretta 92FS Inox==&lt;br /&gt;
Andre ([[Mekhi Phifer]]) uses a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] as his weapon of choice. This pistol is also used  by other characters, mainly CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) when he clears out the lower level of the mall of any zombies. Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) also gets a hold of this weapon when he disarms CJ and holds it on him during the argument on the rooftop of the mall. Steve ([[Ty Burrell]]) can also been seen with a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] with blued components (trigger, hammer, safety, disassembly latch, and slide release) when he gets out of the crashed bus, a continuity error is seen when the referred parts are stainless when he checks the gun's load.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS Inox - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andre ([[Mekhi Phifer]]) uses a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] against the zombies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andre firing his Beretta 92FS Inox at an approaching zombie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-8.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andre's Inox locks empty while holding off some zombies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andre taunts a zombie behind shatterproof glass with his 92FS Inox in hand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:05.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Andre with his Beretta in a promotional photo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_0139.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Beretta is fired by Andre ([[Mekhi Phifer]]) during his confrontation.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-9.jpg|thumb|none|602px|Closeup of Andre's 92FS Inox during his confrontation with Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]). &amp;quot;Stainless&amp;quot; can clearly be seen underneath the front of the barrel.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-7.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth holds the [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] on CJ after taking it away from him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ kills a zombie with Andre's Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-6.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) holds Andre's Beretta Inox on Kevin during the argument on the rooftop.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kevin is threatened with the Inox.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-10.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Steve picks up a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] after the bus he's in crashes - Notice how the trigger, hammer, safety, disassembly latch, and slide release are blued.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-11.jpg|thumb|none|601px|And now those parts are stainless when Steve checks the load.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_128.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Steve ([[Ty Burrell]]) raises the Beretta.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beretta 92FS==&lt;br /&gt;
While the survivors are loading up at the gun store, a [[Beretta 92FS]] is among the weapons to be taken. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta3.jpg|thumb|601px|none|A [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] and a [[Glock 36]] on a counter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 21==&lt;br /&gt;
After the survivors load up at the gun store, several [[Glock 21]] pistols are seen afterwards. CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) hands a pair of the pistols to a wounded Tucker ([[Boyd Banks]]) to fight off the zombies chasing them in the sewers while they make their way back to the mall, CJ also uses one of these pistols as his back up weapon, and uses it to to explode a propane tank while at the docks so that the zombies can't reach the remaining survivors.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock21.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 21 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of CJ's [[Glock 21]] firing. The muzzle flash indicates that this is an authentic blank-firing weapon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-6.jpg |thumb|none|600px|CJ fires his Glock 21 at a zombie in the stairwell.  The Glock seen here is a non gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DOTD04 37.jpg |thumb|none|600px|The telltale &amp;quot;poof&amp;quot; of smoke indicates the Non Gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) firing his Glock while in the bus.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ uses his Glock to hold off the zombies. This shot shows the slide reads &amp;quot;.45 Auto&amp;quot;, making it a 21.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A magazine drops out of CJ's Glock, &amp;quot;.45&amp;quot; can be seen engraved at the top of the magazine, this also suggests the model of the gun is a [[Glock 21]] chambered in .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-5.jpg|thumb|none|602px|CJ uses his Glock 21 to ignite a flare before shooting a propane tank, causing the bus he's in to explode. '''Trivia note:''' Michael Kelly did actually ignite the flare by firing the blank gun close to it, something the crew did not expect to happen on the first take.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP==&lt;br /&gt;
When Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]), CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]), Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]), and Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) enter Andy's gun store to rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth), they find an unloaded [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP]] laying on the bloody floor. This is presumed to be the gun Andy was using to fend off zombies while letting the dog Chips, outfitted with food, through a doggy door before being bitten and infected by a zombie. This pistol is seen in the hands of Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) at the end.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:USP9mm.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_130.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) with the pistol as seen through Kenneth's binoculars.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_USP.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andy's unloaded USP is seen on the bloody floor.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_107.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pistol is seen in the hands of Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) while he stands on the dock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
In the beginning of the film when the zombie outbreak first starts, one of Ana's neighbors can be seen with an [[M1911A1]] pistol and threatening her to stay back before he is hit by an out of control ambulance.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ana's neighbor with a [[M1911A1]] pistol.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P229==&lt;br /&gt;
When the survivors are loading up at the gun store, a [[SIG-Sauer P229]] pistol is seen being taken off the counter.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SIGP229.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P229 - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Sig.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A [[SIG-Sauer P229]] is taken off the counter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Star Model B==&lt;br /&gt;
Ana and Michael are seen watching the movie ''[[Animal House]]'' where Kent &amp;quot;Flounder&amp;quot; Dorfman ([[Stephen Furst]]) fires a  [[Star_1911_Series#Star_Model_B|Star Model B]] loaded with blanks in order to take care of Neidermeyer's horse.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:StarPistolB.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Star Model B with blue finish - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_546.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The scene from ''[[Animal House]]'' where Flounder uses the pistol.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Revolvers=&lt;br /&gt;
==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27==&lt;br /&gt;
Two of the mall's security guards are seen with the [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]]. CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) is seen with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] .357 Magnum during his initial standoff with the other survivors.  The revolver also is seen in the hands of Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]). Later in the film, a struggle ensues between the survivors that are currently in the mall and the former security guards on whether or not to let more survivors into the mall with CJ threatening to kill everyone to stay alive, but when he is distracted, the survivors disarm both CJ and Bart ([[Michael Barry]]). The revolver is also seen in the hands of and then mainly used by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) for the rest of the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Model28g.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27 with 4&amp;quot; barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolvers.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] and Bart ([[Michael Barry]]) with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_19.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A Model 27 laying on a counter just before Michael picks it up.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04 141.jpg|thumb|none|600px| The revolver is seen in the hands of Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_57.jpg|thumb|none|600px| The revolver is used by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While in the gun store, the revolver is held by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|On the far right, the revolver is held by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13==&lt;br /&gt;
Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]) uses a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]] throughout the film. Bart ([[Michael Barry]]) can also be seen with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]] revolver before it is taken from him by the other survivors.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_13.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13 with 4-inch barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolvers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] and Bart with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bart ([[Michael Barry]]) with the [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]]. In the background, CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) wields a Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_15.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]) draws his [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 (Snub)==&lt;br /&gt;
Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) uses a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66]] snub nose revolver as her weapon in the film. The weapon is also used by Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) and is also seen when the survivors go to rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth) at Andy's gun shop. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mod66wPachmayr.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Smith and Wesson Model 66 with 2.5&amp;quot; barrel (snub-nose) - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the center, Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) uses a stainless [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66]] Snub atop a truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_132.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) pulls her [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66]] snub during a confrontation.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_19-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Closeup of Norma's [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 Snub Nose]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W-19-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ using Norma's Model 66 Snub Nose outside Andy's Gun Works.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W-19-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Anna fires the Model 66 Snub on the dock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Revolver &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
During the fight to the gun store, CJ's hand is seen using a [[Non_Guns#Smith_.26_Wesson_66|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;]] against a zombie at close range, temporarily replacing the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 acquired from Norma.  Later, while the survivors make their escape out of Milwaukee, Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) uses the &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;, also temporarily replacing the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66, to put a bullet into the head of a zombified Steve ([[Ty Burrell]]). This &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot; was used because Polley was close to Burrell when shooting this scene, and at such close range, blanks can be considered unsafe, so a &amp;quot;non gun&amp;quot; was used.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Snubnongun.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Revolver Non-Gun commonly used to impersonate snub-nose or short-barreled Smith &amp;amp; Wesson K-frame revolvers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ's Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 acquired from Norma temporarily turns into the &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot; when killing a zombie at the BP truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Ana fires the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_67.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Non Gun gives off the telltale &amp;quot;poof&amp;quot; of smoke.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AnaFlash.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Promotional image gives a good view of the &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotguns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Remington 870 (Police Magnum)==&lt;br /&gt;
Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) uses a police issue [[Remington 870]] shotgun fitted with a Surefire flashlight attachment on the foregrip as his signature weapon. He uses it for most of the film until the survivors go to rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth). He loses the weapon when it runs out of ammunition and a zombie grabs it out of his hand. The gun was also briefly used by Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) to incapacitate the undead Ben Cozine early on in the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem870w618Surefire.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun with Model 618 Surefire Light mounted in front - 12 gauge. This is the version used in the film.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth carrying his [[Remington 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of Kenneth's Remington 870.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth shoots a lock off a door with his 870.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth aims his 870 at a zombie attacking Luda (Inna Korobkina).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-5.jpg |thumb|none|601px|Kenneth's Remington 870 on the floor while he fights with a zombie in the mall's fountain.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-6.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) fires Kenneth's [[Remington 870]] at a zombie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth fires his Police 870 while fighting toward the BP truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_Comparison_3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Clear (and final) view of Kenneth's Police 870.  Note the placement of the pump on the length of the magazine, as well as the length of the barrel.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870 (Express Tactical)==&lt;br /&gt;
During the dash to the truck, Kenneth's Police 870 turns into an Express Tactical model (as evidenced by the factory-extended 7-shot tube) with the same Surefire flashlight combination forend.  This weapon is seen when the weapon is taken from Kenneth by encroaching zombies and more clearly in the extended version in a removed sequence of Kenneth shooting a zombie in the head at close-range.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Remington_870_Express_Tactical_(factory).jpg|601px|thumb|left|Remington 870 Express Tactical with synthetic furniture and factory-extended 7-shot tube.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth struggles to level the weapon at the zombie.  Notice the length of the tube in relation to the muzzle and the lens of the Surefire forend.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth fires; the tube length is still slightly discernible here.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth lets his weapon get ripped away to save himself.  The tube length is still extended, and we can also see that it is not an aftermarket extension accessory but a solid factory extension, thereby proving that this is a completely different gun than the one seen previous to this.  However, because it retains the original hero gun's Surefire forend, so the original must have been on hand to be able to dress the Express Tactical to resemble it and then replaced for unknown reasons.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington 870 (Non Gun)==&lt;br /&gt;
When escaping from the gun store, Tucker's shotgun appears to switch from a Mossberg 500 Cruiser to a short [[Remington 870]] [[Non Gun]] version.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Remington Non Gun.jpg|thumb|none|451px|Remington 870 &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Tucker fires his [[Remington 870]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DOTD04 27.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Non Gun gives off the telltale &amp;quot;poof&amp;quot; of smoke.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Customized Remington 870==&lt;br /&gt;
After the survivors rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth) and load up at the gun store, Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) packs a customized [[Remington 870]] shotgun fitted with a magazine extension tube and Mossberg-style ghost ring sights (this is possible since some parts are easily swapped between Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 series shotguns) and uses it while the remaining survivors make their escape out of Milwaukee. Kenneth most notably uses this shotgun on a zombified Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]). Ving also knows how to use a weapon effectively, because he doesn't flinch excessively and whenever he isn't firing, he demonstrates the excellent trigger discipline of a Marine.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Custom870wMossbergGhostRing.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Custom Remington 870 combat shotgun with extended magazine tube and Mossberg Ghost Ring sights - 12 Gauge. (Identical configuration to the shotgun in the film: This weapon was assembled and built specially for IMFDB by [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth with the newly acquired [[Remington 870|Custom Remington 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth with his Custom 870 in the gunstore]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg4.jpg|thumb|none|602px|Kenneth fires his 870.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the ejection port on Kenneth's [[Remington 870|Custom 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth gets out of the bus with his Remington 870 in hand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth fires his [[Remington 870|Custom Remington 870]] at the docks.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500 Cruiser==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the survivors, Tucker ([[Boyd Banks]]) has a [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] with a pistol grip. This weapon is also used by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) and CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]).&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mossbergcruiser1.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tucker fires a [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] as he and Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) are atop a truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth turns off the safety on the [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] while it is in Michael's possession.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Franchi PA8==&lt;br /&gt;
When the survivors load up at the Andy's ([[Bruce Bohne]]) gun store, CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) arms himself with a [[Franchi PA8]] with a factory folding stock and high-capacity magazine tube, and uses it while they make their escape out of Milwaukee. From the report of the gun and the look of the wounds it inflicts, it seems he is using rifled slugs. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Franchi_PA8_-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Franchi PA8 - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD04_15.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A [[Franchi PA8]] with folding stock and high-capacity magazine tube on a gun rack.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ unloads several 12 Ga. shotgun shells into a horde of zombies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
==Winchester Model 70==&lt;br /&gt;
Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]), the owner of the gun store across the street, is armed with what appears to be a [[Winchester Model 70]] fitted in a camoflauged-painted stock with a folding bipod which he uses to play &amp;quot;Hollywood Squares&amp;quot; with the other survivors stranded in the mall on the other side of the street in which Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) shows Andy a celebrity's name on a dry erase board, and Andy puts a bullet in the zombie look-a-like's head. CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) later uses Andy's rifle to explode a propane tank to clear a path to the sewers for the other survivors.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Win70Camo.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_M40.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) with the sniper rifle as seen through Kenneth's binonoculars.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_M40_2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ about to fire the rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-M40-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Closeup of the Trigger guard as CJ fires the rifle.  Note the bolt action is consistent with the Winchester.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-M40-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CJ holds the rifle after blowing up the propane tank.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36==&lt;br /&gt;
During the opening credits during one of the news broadcasts, a soldier in Istanbul can be seen firing a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36]] assault rifle (fitted with a G36C-style carry handle) before being overwhelmed by zombies.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:G36.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36 - 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_G36.jpg|thumb|601px|none|During the opening credits, pixelated news footage shows a UN soldier in Istanbul firing a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== M16A2 ==&lt;br /&gt;
News footage shows US soldiers with the [[M16A2]] rifle.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 Rifle - 5.56x45mm. Select Fire rifle (Safe/Semi/3 round Burst Only).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD04_545.jpg|thumb|none|601px|News footage shows US soldiers with the [[M16A2]] rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Machine Guns=&lt;br /&gt;
==M60E4==&lt;br /&gt;
In the opening credits during one of the various news broadcasts, a soldier (played by director [[Zack Snyder]]) can be seen firing an [[M60_machine_gun#M60E4_Machine_Gun|M60E4 Machine Gun]] in front of the U.S. Capitol. Note the large triangular front sight.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M60E4 large.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60E4 machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_SAW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the opening credit sequence, pixelated news footage shows a soldier (played by director [[Zack Snyder]]) firing an [[M60_machine_gun#M60E4_Machine_Gun|M60E4 Machine Gun]] in front of the U.S. Capitol. Note the large triangular front sight.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=DVD Special Feature &amp;quot;Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed&amp;quot;=&lt;br /&gt;
An extra featurette on the DVD release features a 'recovered home video' of the gun store owner Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]), and his dealing with the zombie outbreak from (mostly) inside his gun shop. In this featurette, the following firearms are seen -&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2==&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen carrying around an [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2]] with a Flashlight attachment, but is never seen firing it.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:2MP5A2.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2 with Surefire 628 dedicated forend weaponlight - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-MP5-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''&amp;quot;Anybody wants to crash this dinner party, they're gonna get some copper coated candy for dessert!&amp;quot;''.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD-Andy-MP5-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andy with his MP5A2.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Safari Arms .45==&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen carrying around a Safari Arms .45 with a Surefire 310R/610R flashlight attachment mounted on.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-M1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Closeup of Andy's Safari Arms .45 before going to get the food sent to him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer SSG 3000==&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen with what looks like a [[SIG-Sauer SSG 3000]] although he used a [[Winchester Model 70]] in the film, but it's quite possible that it could have been one of the many other guns in Andy's store.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SSG3000.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SIG-Sauer SSG 3000 with Harris bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-Sniper-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of Andy's SIG-Sauer SSG 3000.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-Sniper-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andy with his SIG-Sauer SSG 3000.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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|country=[[Image:USA.jpg|25px]] United States&lt;br /&gt;
|director=Nikolaj Arcel&lt;br /&gt;
|date=2017&lt;br /&gt;
|language=English&lt;br /&gt;
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|distributor=Columbia Pictures&lt;br /&gt;
|character1=Roland Deschain&lt;br /&gt;
|actor1=[[Idris Elba]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character2=Walter Padick&lt;br /&gt;
|actor2=[[Matthew McConaughey]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character3=Jake Chambers&lt;br /&gt;
|actor3=Tom Taylor&lt;br /&gt;
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'''''The Dark Tower''''' is the 2017 upcoming fantasy feature film adaptation of the series of novels written by [[Stephen King]].  The film was directed by Nikolaj Arcel and stars [[Idris Elba]] as Roland Deschain, aka &amp;quot;The Gunslinger&amp;quot; and [[Matthew McConaughey]] as Walter Padick. &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Film Title|The Dark Tower}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Custom Remington 1858 New Army==&lt;br /&gt;
Roland Deschain ([[Idris Elba]]) appears to carry dual customized [[Remington 1858 New Army]] revolvers as his weapons of choice.  These revolvers have customized cylinders and double action triggers. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington1858-1.jpg|thumb|none|325px|Remington 1858 New Army Percussion - .44 Caliber.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Gunslinger ([[Idris Elba]]) with his custom [[Remington 1858]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Darktower0001.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Gunslinger's custom gun belt, with both individual cartridges and 6-round &amp;quot;moon clips.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The two-stage firing is seen. The trigger is pulled and sparks fly from the cylinder...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...and then the muzzle flashes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Gunslinger does an impressive speed-load, tossing cartridges into his revolver. The custom swing-out cylinder is seen here on the right-hand gun (the left hand gun's cylinder swings out on the opposite side).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While this shot is blurry, the left-hand gun's cylinder clearly swings out the right side of the gun so it swings inward in relation to the Gunslinger's hand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Gunslinger practices his grip with Jake ([[Tom Taylor]]). Note that while both guns are seen with swing-out cylinders, no cylinder release latches are seen.  Note the double action-style triggers extended toward the center of the triggerguard.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Gunslinger fires his Remington.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 09.jpg|thumb|none|602px|The Gunslinger aims his Remington, which starts to glow and show the custom engraving.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarkTower Remington 10.jpg|thumb|none|602px|The best shot of the Remington in the trailer, showing what appear to be .36 or .38 caliber chambers (one of which appears to be loaded).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==CAA Tactical RONI==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[CAA Tactical RONI]] also appears to be used.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CAA RONI-SI1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|CAA Tactical RONI-SI1 with a SIG-Sauer P226 mounted underneath with foregrip extended out.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 19==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Glock 19]]  also appears to be used.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock19pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Glock 19 (3rd Generation) - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Talk:Dawn of the Dead (2004)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;(NOTE: CJ ACTUALLY USED A G22 OR POSSIBLY A G23. You can see when he drops the magazine, it says &amp;quot;.40S&amp;amp;W&amp;quot;. However, it is a 10 rd limit so you can not distinguish the model GLOCK.)&lt;br /&gt;
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[12 JUL 2008: CORRECTION - The magazine that drops from CJ's Glock is indeed a 10 rounder, but it does not say .40S&amp;amp;W, it says &amp;quot;.45&amp;quot;.  If you have the DVD, pause it on that scene and you'll see it.  This would also be consistent with being used in a G21]&lt;br /&gt;
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All Service Model Glocks (17, 20, 21, 22, 31 &amp;amp; 37) all have a 15 round mag capacity.&lt;br /&gt;
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[12 JUL 2008: The above mag capacities are not exact (assuming reference to standard Glock High-Cap magazines, and not with the +2 floorplate).  The G17 in 9mm = 17 rounds (the G19 in 9mm would have 15 rounds), the G21 in .45ACP = 13 rounds.  The G37 in .45GAP only holds 10 rounds.]&lt;br /&gt;
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The movie was filmed in the summer of 2003 when magazines available for private citizens were limited to ten rounds plus it was filmed in Canada. Would this also play into it? Just wondering. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:35, 3 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Shotgun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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(Edit) You can't identify a shotgun via the barrel.  Barrels are easily changed between models ie the Mossy 500 and the 590 etc.  You need to look at the receiver of the shotgun in question ie the loading/ejection port/bolt/rivets/pins/trigger guard/safety etc etc etc.  Come on, guys, this is basic stuff.  The shotgun used in that truck scene is a plain old pistol grip Mossberg 500 with an 18.5&amp;quot; barrel.  The one used in that gunshop scene in the second pic is a shorty Remington 870.  Tucker's shotgun switched back and forth from a Mossberg 500 to an 870 continually.  There is nothing even close to an Ithaca 37 in that movie.  The Ithaca 37 is a bottom ejecting pump....the ones used in the film all clearly had ejection ports.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition Micheal takes a simmilair looking weapon from the gunstore, although he is never shown fireing it. Cj takes this gun after Tuckers death, and ultimately somehow Terry gets ahold of it, and can be seen fireing it from the bus during the escape.&lt;br /&gt;
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When the shotgun changes from a pistol grip Mossberg 500, it changes to a Remington Non Gun. It's the same Remington non gun from the first season of ''Justified''  [[File:Remington_Non_Gun.jpg]] I would edit this page myself but I'm still new to editing and I don't want to screw up the page.&lt;br /&gt;
- Shadow45&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ruger SP-101 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This most definately is NOT a Ruger SP101. It's more likley a flashcap nongun, or an armscor 206. i think it is just a nongun to replace her model 19 because she is so close to steve. &lt;br /&gt;
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I think it might be a nongun also, if you look closely you can see that the bore does not align with the cylinder very well. -[[User:AdAstra2009]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this is the model 10 .38 special with a heavy barrel. I think so because when they are stocking up on ammo in the gun store he checks it and says it uses .38s. I know that .357s can fire .38s but if it was a .357 it would say so on the gun.&lt;br /&gt;
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== M249 SAW ==&lt;br /&gt;
Looks to me more like an M60 variant by the shape of the front sight. I'll have to watch the movie later and see if I can get a better look. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 17:07, 15 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bart's revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I got to say that bart's revolver is more than likely a S&amp;amp;W model 10 with a heavy barrel. During the scene in andy's gunshop&lt;br /&gt;
while CJ and Bart are grabbing ammo. CJ asks bart what caliber he needs, Bart clearly calls out &amp;quot;.38&amp;quot;. Why CJ didn't know that is&lt;br /&gt;
anyones guess.&lt;br /&gt;
- That wasn't Bart. It was Terry. Bart was the 1st survivor to die. and if you watch the movie with subtitles on, you can hear him say .357 so yes, it is a Model 13&lt;br /&gt;
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It could be either or because they ask for both ammo types, and they have a Model 19 snub too as well as a possible dozen of other .357 caliber weapons, because they are in a gun store. It has to be a Model 13 though or else it hadn't been loaded in nearly every scene it was pointed at someone, as it's not used but it still deters people when it's aimed at them, even people like CJ who would know whether or not it was empty. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 03:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Kenneth's Shotgun==&lt;br /&gt;
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MPM is gonna hate me for this but the mockup that he made isn't entirely accurate to the gun Kenneth used in the latter parts of the movie. MPMs mockup has the short police/riot forend which doesn't cover the loading gate when cocked, but Kenneth's is clearly the old hunting style synthetic that covers the gate when pumped. If you look at MPM's build and the one Kenneth is holding, you'll see what I mean. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 03:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And what screenshot shows this?  You will have to show how this is so.  I checked the images again and I don't see it.  Also Surefire didn't make old style hunting forearms when they made the tactical flashlight fore-ends. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:22, 5 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
This is what he is referring to --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 16:55, 9 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD Custom-870.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vandal==&lt;br /&gt;
I had to back out (undo all the steps made by the vandal) which included canceling edits made by other fixing the vandalism.  That way I could catch ALL of the vandalism [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:19, 5 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ving Rhames really knows his stuff ==&lt;br /&gt;
He handles those shotguns better than just about any actor I've ever with a firearm in any movie. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Snyder is a bit of a gun nut, the &amp;quot;pussy 9 mils&amp;quot; was his little tip to .45, according the the audio commentary. I imagine he had Ving go through a a lot of tactical gun training.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 17:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== P-229. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A gun can be seen in Micheals wasteband during the escpe, until he takes it out, and puts it down,when he gets behind the drivers seat of the bus. I got a buddie who insit its the Sig.&lt;br /&gt;
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==CJ's Odd Mood Swings==&lt;br /&gt;
This isn't really gun-related, but can anyone explain CJ's abrupt change of mood at the end of the film? He goes from hating everyone else and being ready to kill them to being prepared to sacrifice himself for them. I didn't really get that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Type of personality that you sometimes run into in the military. Wartime: Hero. Peacetime: Fuck Up. The traits that make for a great combat soldier don't necessarily make for a good peacetime citizen. That's my take.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 19:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I kinda see what you mean. I just thought it was odd that he was prepared to hold off the zombies for people who'd done nothing but keep him locked up for a month.&lt;br /&gt;
Although, he does try the door, so he may not necesarily have thought he was sacrificing himself.&lt;br /&gt;
Another question: When he tries the door, what does he say? Is it &amp;quot;Damn! Fuck!&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Jammed! Fuck!&amp;quot; I think it's &amp;quot;damn.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Birdshot Shells?==&lt;br /&gt;
When Tucker says &amp;quot;We've got Twelve o' these shotguns shells&amp;quot; as he puts them on the table, they look to be low-brass birdshot. Did anyone else think so, or am I mistaken? -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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== Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Did anybody else take a close look at this screencap and spot something wrong?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] laying on a counter just before Michael picks it up.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The ejector rod housing is all wrong, it looks like it's supposed to swing out to the right side instead of the left. At first I thought it was a reversed shot but there's no cylinder release latch. I think it's one of those fake Dollar Store guns that sell for about a buck, they're molded in a similar manner.&lt;br /&gt;
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:: That's a good point. I believe there's a similar goof on one screencap with [[Clint Eastwood]]'s S&amp;amp;W Performance Center 627 in ''[[Blood Work]]''. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 20:52, 6 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The gun on Blood Work is supposed to be like that. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sw627.jpg|thumb|none|500px|note the ejector rod]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I thought it was still shrouded from the right..Whoa, learn something new every day. Thanks Pred. Nice image, BTW. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Some of S&amp;amp;W Performance Center guns are like that for some reason, with the hollowed out shroud. Maybe it's for weight savings. Also are y'all sure that ejector shroud on the Model 27 from DOD is wrong? It kind of looks like its indented, be it could be the lighting and shadowing making it look that way.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: With Close examination you can see that the gun is normal and in fact is by the light. --[[User:Dillinger|Dillinger]] 23:41, 6 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Also notice the symbol embossed on the marks and the absence of the grips screw. Looks just like a rubber prop.--[[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]] 09:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Pussy 9 mil==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why do americans hate the 9mm, it's well proven and theres nothing wrong with it. Is it just because its smaller than the .45 and .357, or cos it's german, or what? [[User:Stephenf1234|Stephenf1234]] 16:41, 12 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not sure I speak for all Americans, but I personally like 9mm. I also don't know many people who &amp;quot;hate&amp;quot; 9mm, but for defense, they'd rather have the power of .45 ACP. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed; I don't hate the 9mm; it's a good round. There are just other rounds I like better (namely the .357 mag, .357 Sig, and .45 ACP.) I really doubt that being German has anything to do with it. -SasquatchJim. Although, I did laugh at the admiration in Tucker's voice when he says &amp;quot;.357 magnums.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, in Tucker's defense, he does appear to be a redneck of sorts and when it comes to guns, most rednecks tend to go big (i.e., .357 Magnum). But considering a single shot to the head no matter what the caliber puts a zombie down for good, I don't get what makes 9mm a &amp;quot;pussy&amp;quot; in their situation. It's better than a baseball bat or crowbar. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:15, 13 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think when he says &amp;quot;pussy,&amp;quot; he's comparing it to the other rounds they have (the .357 and 12 gauge.) -SasquatchJim.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alternate (Third) Kenneth Hero 870?==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is my favorite movie, so naturally, I rewatch it every now and again.  I was taking note of the little gunfight that happens outside of the gun shop and admiring the aesthetics of it all when I noticed some shit.&lt;br /&gt;
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So Kenneth's running and gunning like a mad man, turning bad guys into wet bags of shit, all is good.  He's that big, beautiful Police 870 with the good ol' Surefire forend.  We've seen him modeling with it all movie, and he's getting it good and carbon-y left and right.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_Comparison_2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth clears a stovepipe.  Notice the length of the shell tube in relation to the pump in mid-cycle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Kenneth is slinging the good word all the way up to the truck.  Fuck you and your zombie virus because Officer Hall's got buckshot.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_Comparison_3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Honey badger don't care.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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And then some shit happens.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn_Shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|601px|LOOK AT THE TUBE: IT ALMOST GOES TO THE END OF THE BARREL.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|You can even somewhat make out the extended tube in the edited footage of point-blank-to-the-face zombie getting his just due.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|We then see the end of the tube in relation to the end of the barrel again in the following shot where the gun is taken from the great black hunter.  There is a clear difference between this gun and the gun that was used in the beginning of the scene.  We can also clearly see that this tube is naturally affixed and is not an extension; this is a factory gun with an extended tube.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|If we look at an alternate angle, we also see that not only is the Surefire forend there, but this must be a functioning gun due to the bright red cross-bolt safety mechanism that is was not engaged at that time.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm just saying, all y'all: there was a second 870 used in this movie; my guess is that it was an action gun meant to hold one or two more shells for more shooting during takes, but the fact of the matter is that the armorer took care to make sure it resembled the original 870 because it still has the Surefire forend.  However, it is odd in that the shotgun does not appear until they are all the way up to the BP truck and had used the main hero 870 up until that point; the extended tube Police 870 did not show up on film until the up-close blast to the face and subsequent taking of the gun from Kenneth with what appears to be the same forend that was on the original gun.&lt;br /&gt;
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I demand answers despite the fact that I asked no questions, imfdb.  Anyone else got any insight, comments, complaints, commentary, et cetera on this discovery?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] ([[User talk:ZeoRanger5|talk]]) 03:10, 3 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Non-Gun Revolver used in Gun Shop dash==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn_Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|601px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Secondary discovery: CJ's hand is seen using the flashbulb non-revolver seen more clearly later in the film when they're running to the gun shop.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;(NOTE: CJ ACTUALLY USED A G22 OR POSSIBLY A G23. You can see when he drops the magazine, it says &amp;quot;.40S&amp;amp;W&amp;quot;. However, it is a 10 rd limit so you can not distinguish the model GLOCK.)&lt;br /&gt;
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[12 JUL 2008: CORRECTION - The magazine that drops from CJ's Glock is indeed a 10 rounder, but it does not say .40S&amp;amp;W, it says &amp;quot;.45&amp;quot;.  If you have the DVD, pause it on that scene and you'll see it.  This would also be consistent with being used in a G21]&lt;br /&gt;
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All Service Model Glocks (17, 20, 21, 22, 31 &amp;amp; 37) all have a 15 round mag capacity.&lt;br /&gt;
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[12 JUL 2008: The above mag capacities are not exact (assuming reference to standard Glock High-Cap magazines, and not with the +2 floorplate).  The G17 in 9mm = 17 rounds (the G19 in 9mm would have 15 rounds), the G21 in .45ACP = 13 rounds.  The G37 in .45GAP only holds 10 rounds.]&lt;br /&gt;
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The movie was filmed in the summer of 2003 when magazines available for private citizens were limited to ten rounds plus it was filmed in Canada. Would this also play into it? Just wondering. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:35, 3 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Shotgun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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(Edit) You can't identify a shotgun via the barrel.  Barrels are easily changed between models ie the Mossy 500 and the 590 etc.  You need to look at the receiver of the shotgun in question ie the loading/ejection port/bolt/rivets/pins/trigger guard/safety etc etc etc.  Come on, guys, this is basic stuff.  The shotgun used in that truck scene is a plain old pistol grip Mossberg 500 with an 18.5&amp;quot; barrel.  The one used in that gunshop scene in the second pic is a shorty Remington 870.  Tucker's shotgun switched back and forth from a Mossberg 500 to an 870 continually.  There is nothing even close to an Ithaca 37 in that movie.  The Ithaca 37 is a bottom ejecting pump....the ones used in the film all clearly had ejection ports.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition Micheal takes a simmilair looking weapon from the gunstore, although he is never shown fireing it. Cj takes this gun after Tuckers death, and ultimately somehow Terry gets ahold of it, and can be seen fireing it from the bus during the escape.&lt;br /&gt;
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When the shotgun changes from a pistol grip Mossberg 500, it changes to a Remington Non Gun. It's the same Remington non gun from the first season of ''Justified''  [[File:Remington_Non_Gun.jpg]] I would edit this page myself but I'm still new to editing and I don't want to screw up the page.&lt;br /&gt;
- Shadow45&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ruger SP-101 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This most definately is NOT a Ruger SP101. It's more likley a flashcap nongun, or an armscor 206. i think it is just a nongun to replace her model 19 because she is so close to steve. &lt;br /&gt;
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I think it might be a nongun also, if you look closely you can see that the bore does not align with the cylinder very well. -[[User:AdAstra2009]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this is the model 10 .38 special with a heavy barrel. I think so because when they are stocking up on ammo in the gun store he checks it and says it uses .38s. I know that .357s can fire .38s but if it was a .357 it would say so on the gun.&lt;br /&gt;
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== M249 SAW ==&lt;br /&gt;
Looks to me more like an M60 variant by the shape of the front sight. I'll have to watch the movie later and see if I can get a better look. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 17:07, 15 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bart's revolver ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I got to say that bart's revolver is more than likely a S&amp;amp;W model 10 with a heavy barrel. During the scene in andy's gunshop&lt;br /&gt;
while CJ and Bart are grabbing ammo. CJ asks bart what caliber he needs, Bart clearly calls out &amp;quot;.38&amp;quot;. Why CJ didn't know that is&lt;br /&gt;
anyones guess.&lt;br /&gt;
- That wasn't Bart. It was Terry. Bart was the 1st survivor to die. and if you watch the movie with subtitles on, you can hear him say .357 so yes, it is a Model 13&lt;br /&gt;
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It could be either or because they ask for both ammo types, and they have a Model 19 snub too as well as a possible dozen of other .357 caliber weapons, because they are in a gun store. It has to be a Model 13 though or else it hadn't been loaded in nearly every scene it was pointed at someone, as it's not used but it still deters people when it's aimed at them, even people like CJ who would know whether or not it was empty. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 03:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Kenneth's Shotgun==&lt;br /&gt;
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MPM is gonna hate me for this but the mockup that he made isn't entirely accurate to the gun Kenneth used in the latter parts of the movie. MPMs mockup has the short police/riot forend which doesn't cover the loading gate when cocked, but Kenneth's is clearly the old hunting style synthetic that covers the gate when pumped. If you look at MPM's build and the one Kenneth is holding, you'll see what I mean. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 03:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And what screenshot shows this?  You will have to show how this is so.  I checked the images again and I don't see it.  Also Surefire didn't make old style hunting forearms when they made the tactical flashlight fore-ends. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:22, 5 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
This is what he is referring to --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 16:55, 9 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD Custom-870.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vandal==&lt;br /&gt;
I had to back out (undo all the steps made by the vandal) which included canceling edits made by other fixing the vandalism.  That way I could catch ALL of the vandalism [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:19, 5 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ving Rhames really knows his stuff ==&lt;br /&gt;
He handles those shotguns better than just about any actor I've ever with a firearm in any movie. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Snyder is a bit of a gun nut, the &amp;quot;pussy 9 mils&amp;quot; was his little tip to .45, according the the audio commentary. I imagine he had Ving go through a a lot of tactical gun training.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 17:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== P-229. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A gun can be seen in Micheals wasteband during the escpe, until he takes it out, and puts it down,when he gets behind the drivers seat of the bus. I got a buddie who insit its the Sig.&lt;br /&gt;
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==CJ's Odd Mood Swings==&lt;br /&gt;
This isn't really gun-related, but can anyone explain CJ's abrupt change of mood at the end of the film? He goes from hating everyone else and being ready to kill them to being prepared to sacrifice himself for them. I didn't really get that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Type of personality that you sometimes run into in the military. Wartime: Hero. Peacetime: Fuck Up. The traits that make for a great combat soldier don't necessarily make for a good peacetime citizen. That's my take.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 19:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I kinda see what you mean. I just thought it was odd that he was prepared to hold off the zombies for people who'd done nothing but keep him locked up for a month.&lt;br /&gt;
Although, he does try the door, so he may not necesarily have thought he was sacrificing himself.&lt;br /&gt;
Another question: When he tries the door, what does he say? Is it &amp;quot;Damn! Fuck!&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Jammed! Fuck!&amp;quot; I think it's &amp;quot;damn.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Birdshot Shells?==&lt;br /&gt;
When Tucker says &amp;quot;We've got Twelve o' these shotguns shells&amp;quot; as he puts them on the table, they look to be low-brass birdshot. Did anyone else think so, or am I mistaken? -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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== Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Did anybody else take a close look at this screencap and spot something wrong?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] laying on a counter just before Michael picks it up.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The ejector rod housing is all wrong, it looks like it's supposed to swing out to the right side instead of the left. At first I thought it was a reversed shot but there's no cylinder release latch. I think it's one of those fake Dollar Store guns that sell for about a buck, they're molded in a similar manner.&lt;br /&gt;
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:: That's a good point. I believe there's a similar goof on one screencap with [[Clint Eastwood]]'s S&amp;amp;W Performance Center 627 in ''[[Blood Work]]''. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 20:52, 6 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The gun on Blood Work is supposed to be like that. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sw627.jpg|thumb|none|500px|note the ejector rod]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I thought it was still shrouded from the right..Whoa, learn something new every day. Thanks Pred. Nice image, BTW. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Some of S&amp;amp;W Performance Center guns are like that for some reason, with the hollowed out shroud. Maybe it's for weight savings. Also are y'all sure that ejector shroud on the Model 27 from DOD is wrong? It kind of looks like its indented, be it could be the lighting and shadowing making it look that way.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: With Close examination you can see that the gun is normal and in fact is by the light. --[[User:Dillinger|Dillinger]] 23:41, 6 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Also notice the symbol embossed on the marks and the absence of the grips screw. Looks just like a rubber prop.--[[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]] 09:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Pussy 9 mil==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why do americans hate the 9mm, it's well proven and theres nothing wrong with it. Is it just because its smaller than the .45 and .357, or cos it's german, or what? [[User:Stephenf1234|Stephenf1234]] 16:41, 12 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not sure I speak for all Americans, but I personally like 9mm. I also don't know many people who &amp;quot;hate&amp;quot; 9mm, but for defense, they'd rather have the power of .45 ACP. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed; I don't hate the 9mm; it's a good round. There are just other rounds I like better (namely the .357 mag, .357 Sig, and .45 ACP.) I really doubt that being German has anything to do with it. -SasquatchJim. Although, I did laugh at the admiration in Tucker's voice when he says &amp;quot;.357 magnums.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, in Tucker's defense, he does appear to be a redneck of sorts and when it comes to guns, most rednecks tend to go big (i.e., .357 Magnum). But considering a single shot to the head no matter what the caliber puts a zombie down for good, I don't get what makes 9mm a &amp;quot;pussy&amp;quot; in their situation. It's better than a baseball bat or crowbar. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:15, 13 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think when he says &amp;quot;pussy,&amp;quot; he's comparing it to the other rounds they have (the .357 and 12 gauge.) -SasquatchJim.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alternate (Third) Kenneth Hero 870?==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is my favorite movie, so naturally, I rewatch it every now and again.  I was taking note of the little gunfight that happens outside of the gun shop and admiring the aesthetics of it all when I noticed some shit.&lt;br /&gt;
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So Kenneth's running and gunning like a mad man, turning bad guys into wet bags of shit, all is good.  He's that big, beautiful Police 870 with the good ol' Surefire forend.  We've seen him modeling with it all movie, and he's getting it good and carbon-y left and right.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_Comparison_2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Kenneth clears a stovepipe.  Notice the length of the shell tube in relation to the pump in mid-cycle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Kenneth is slinging the good word all the way up to the truck.  Fuck you and your zombie virus because Officer Hall's got buckshot.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_Comparison_3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Honey badger don't care.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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And then some shit happens.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn_Shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|601px|LOOK AT THE TUBE: IT ALMOST GOES TO THE END OF THE BARREL.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|You can even somewhat make out the extended tube in the edited footage of point-blank-to-the-face zombie getting his just due.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|We then see the end of the tube in relation to the end of the barrel again in the following shot where the gun is taken from the great black hunter.  There is a clear difference between this gun and the gun that was used in the beginning of the scene.  We can also clearly see that this tube is naturally affixed and is not an extension; this is a factory gun with an extended tube.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn_Shotgun_4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|If we look at an alternate angle, we also see that not only is the Surefire forend there, but this must be a functioning gun due to the bright red cross-bolt safety mechanism that is was not engaged at that time.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm just saying, all y'all: there was a second 870 used in this movie; my guess is that it was an action gun meant to hold one or two more shells for more shooting during takes, but the fact of the matter is that the armorer took care to make sure it resembled the original 870 because it still has the Surefire forend.  However, it is odd in that the shotgun does not appear until they are all the way up to the BP truck and had used the main hero 870 up until that point; the extended tube Police 870 did not show up on film until the up-close blast to the face and subsequent taking of the gun from Kenneth with what appears to be the same forend that was on the original gun.&lt;br /&gt;
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I demand answers despite the fact that I asked no questions, imfdb.  Anyone else got any insight, comments, complaints, commentary, et cetera on this discovery?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] ([[User talk:ZeoRanger5|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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==Non-Gun Revolver used in Gun Shop dash==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn_Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|601px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Secondary discovery: CJ's hand is seen using the flashbulb non-revolver seen more clearly later in the film when they're running to the gun shop.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were used in the film ''[[Outlaw Josey Wales, The|The Outlaw Josey Wales]]:'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Outlawjoseywales.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976)'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Colt Walker 1847==&lt;br /&gt;
Josey Wales ([[Clint Eastwood]]) carries two [[Colt Walker|Colt Walker 1847]] revolvers in twin holsters as his primary sidearms, although he carries four pistols in total. While not supposed to be known by the audience, the guns are converted to fire metallic cartridges instead of firing percussion cap and ball, since this it is safer to use blanks than firing blackpowder blank shot. While some of the guns are anachronistically seen with conventional metallic conversion kits with ejector rods and loading gates, these guns lack these features to try to hide its conversion. In some scenes though, the guns are non-firing models which do have percussion nipples so the audience can be tricked into thinking the guns are a percussion only. The famous image in which Wales poses with his Colt Walkers is a good example.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WalesOriginalWalker.jpg|thumb|none|400px|One of the original Colt Walker 1847s used by [[Clint Eastwood]] in the film. Since deactivated by the propstore of London.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalesOriginalWalkerHolster.jpg|thumb|none|400px|One of the original Colt Walker 1847s in one of the original holsters.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WalesColtWalkers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Josey Wales famously poses with his Colt Walker 1847s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtWalker-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Josey Wales presents his two Colt Walker 1847s butts forward when two bounty chasers hold him up in the trading shop.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtWalker-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Unfortunately for them, Wales knows his gun tricks and reverses the guns with lightning speed (too fast to grab a clear picture, in fact). This trick is known as the &amp;quot;Road Agent's Spin&amp;quot; and is actually quite simple to accomplish if you know how to do it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtWalker-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales draws his Colt Walker in his left hand and a Colt 1860 Army in his right to kill the Union soldiers in the town.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtWalker-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales aims his Colt Walker at a group of thugs as they attempt to rape Laura Lee ([[Sondra Locke]]), only holding his fire when their leader forces them to stop their attack.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtWalker-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales fires his Colt Walker at the Red Legs during the shootout outside the house. Here, the trigger is obviously too light since the hammer only falls to half-cock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtWalker-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of one of the Colt Walkers firing. Note how the cylinder has no percussion nipples, and the gap behind the cylinder is obviously there so cartridges can fit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtWalker-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales slowly approaches Terrill ([[Bill McKinney]]) while clicking each chamber empty to scare him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtWalker-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales dry-firing his empty Colt Walkers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtWalker-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales flashes back to when Terrill and his Red Legs murdered his family, fueling his rage even more.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWWALESARMORY.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales' Colt Walkers in his holsters.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Colt 1860 Army==&lt;br /&gt;
In the film, there are multiple variants of the [[Colt 1860 Army]] revolver (despite the fact there was only one available during the Civil War, since cartridge conversions didn't exist at the time), including:&lt;br /&gt;
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===Standard===&lt;br /&gt;
The most common version of the Colt Army in the film is the standard version without an obvious conversion such as a Richards-Mason. Even so, almost all of them have a hidden cartridge conversion since it is safer to shoot metallic blank cartridges than black powder blank shot.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:1860Army.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1860 Army - .44 caliber.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmy-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Fletcher ([[John Vernon]]) is seen carrying three Colt Army revolvers, and has two pointed at him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmy-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|&amp;quot;I thought you could use some help.&amp;quot; Jamie ([[Sam Bottoms]]) holds his Colt Army after killing Lige. Note how metallic cartridges can be seen in the cylinder.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmy-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales holds his Colt Army on Lone Watie ([[Chief Dan George]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmy-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here the gun is a percussion model, since he's pointing it at a fellow actor and so they can pack the lead balls into the chambers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmy-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales draws his Colt Army in his right hand and his Colt Walker in his left when facing the Union soldiers in the town.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmy-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales shoots one of the Commanchero's who tries to take his horse in the desert. Note how the hammer has been modified to strike a firing pin to properly fire center fire blanks.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmy-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales faces off with a bounty hunter ([[John Davis Chandler]]), both of them use Colt Army revolvers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmy-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Laura Lee ([[Sondra Locke]]) fake fires a percussion Colt Army.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmy-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales tries to shoot Terrill ([[Bill McKinney]]) as he flees but his Colt Army clicks empty. Similar to his Colt Walker, the hammer falls on half-cock due to a light trigger.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmy-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales dry-fires his Colt Army and [[Colt 1849 Pocket]] as he approaches Terrill.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWWALESARMORY.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales holsters his Colt Army.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Loading Gate Conversion===&lt;br /&gt;
When Wales' family is first murdered by the Red Legs, he retrieves a gun from the ashes of his house, which is a Colt Army with a cartridge conversion and a loading gate only. Due to quick camera cuts, it appears he fires far more than six shots at a time.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmyC-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales retrieves the converted Colt Army from the ashes of his home.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmyC-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales looks at the Colt Army.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmyC-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales shoots a wooden post repeatedly to get the feel for the gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmyC-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales fires the smoking Colt Army.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Richards Cartridge Conversion===&lt;br /&gt;
Lone Watie ([[Chief Dan George]]) sneaks up on Wales and holds a Colt Army with a Richards Conversion (has a rear sight added to the breech ring instead of the rear sight on the hammer, has a frame-mounted firing pin, and a hammer modified to strike this firing pin. Also had ejector rod and loading gate) on him, boasting that only an Indian can sneak up on someone. Wales agrees and in a second, Watie has a gun to his head from Little Moonlight ([[Geraldine Keams]]).&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Colt1860Richards.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1860 Army with Richards Conversion.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmyR-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Lone Watie:''' Howdy. '''Josey Wales:''' Howdy.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmyR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|&amp;quot;I'm gettin' better at sneaking up on you like this. Only an Indian can do something like this.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmyR-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Little Moonlight shoots the last of the rapists with her Colt Army with a Richards conversion.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Richards-Mason Cartridge Conversion===&lt;br /&gt;
Colt Armies with Richards-Mason are used by several characters in the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ArmyConversion55.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Army with Richards-Mason cartridge conversion.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmyR+M-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Both of the bounty chasers in the trade shop hold Colt Army revolvers with Richards-Mason conversions on Wales.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmyR+M-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Little Moonlight ([[Geraldine Keams]]) holds a Colt Army with a Richards-Mason conversion on Lone Watie ([[Chief Dan George]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmyR+M-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Little Moonlight holds her Colt Army on Lone Watie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtArmyR+M-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Commanchero Leader ([[John Quade]]) armed with a converted Colt Army.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Colt 1849 Pocket==&lt;br /&gt;
Josey Wales ([[Clint Eastwood]]) carries a [[Colt 1849 Pocket]] in a breast-pocket holster, and draws it only when no other option is left.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:1849.31cal.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1849 Pocket - .31 caliber.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColt1849Pocket-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales shoots Abe ([[Len Lesser]]) with his Colt 1849 Pocket. You can see he's aiming for his gut/groin region...]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColt1849Pocket-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|... yet the bullet exits center mass.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColt1849Pocket-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales fires his 1849 Pocket during the shootout with the Red Legs. Unfortunately for Clint, the best shot of the gun isn't the most flattering for him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColt1849Pocket-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales draws his 1849 Pocket as he approaches Terrill ([[Bill McKinney]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColt1849Pocket-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales dry-fires his 1849 Pocket and Colt Army.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWWALESARMORY.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales holsters his 1849 Pocket.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Colt 1851 Navy==&lt;br /&gt;
Union &amp;quot;Red Leg&amp;quot; leader Captain Terrill ([[Bill McKinney]]) carries a [[Colt 1851 Navy]] with a brass frame as his sidearm, and is notably seen using it during the slaughter of the Confederate soldiers. It is not a Griswold and Gunnison 1860 as a previous user claimed, as it has an octagonal barrel, not a round barrel like an G&amp;amp;G.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:1851Navy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1851 Navy - .36 caliber.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWColtNavy-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Terrill fires his Colt 1851 Navy at the cart Wales was firing the Gatling Gun in. He fires four shots before charging the cart and when he sticks the gun in, you cans see all six lead balls loaded in the chambers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sharps 1863 Cavalry Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
The Union soldiers are seen armed with [[Sharps Rifle#Sharps 1863|Sharps 1863]] Cavalry Carbines in the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sharps 1863 carbine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sharps 1863 - .52 caliber.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWSharpsRifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Union soldiers hold their Sharps 1863 carbines on Fletcher ([[John Vernon]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWSharpsRifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Union soldier holds his Sharps on Fletcher.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWSharpsRifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Union soldiers fire their Sharps Carbines at Wales.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sharps 1865 Sniper Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
Josey Wales ([[Clint Eastwood]]) carries a [[Sharps Rifle#Sharps 1865|Sharps 1865]] rifle fitted with a full length J. Stevens brass tube target scope, which he uses to shoot the ferry rope in two, leaving the pursuing Redlegs stranded in the water. He later uses it to tie a white flag to when approaching the Commancheros before using it to shoot one of them off their horse.    &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWSharpsSniper-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Josey takes his Sharps Sniper rifle out from his saddle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWSharpsSniper-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|&amp;quot;Well, Mr. Carpetbagger. We got somethin' in this territory called the Missouri boat ride.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWSharpsSniper-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Josey impressively shoots the rope which directs the ferry across the river.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWSharpsSniper-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Josey approaches the Commancheros with his Sharps being used as a flag pole.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trapdoor Springfield 1873==&lt;br /&gt;
Another anachronistic firearm in the film, [[Trapdoor Springfield Rifle|Trapdoor Springfield 1873]] rifles are used by Abe ([[Len Lesser]]) and Lige ([[Doug McGrath]]) when they attempt to capture Josey Wales ([[Clint Eastwood]]) by the river side. Later in the film, several are used by Wales' allies in the house to shoot at the Red Legs outside.  In September 1865, the Allin Conversion was patented which simply converted the .58 Caliber Springfield musket to a 58 caliber breech loading rimfire, so it is plausible that the 1873s portrayed here are representative of Allin-converted rifles available directly after the Civil War.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TrapdoorSpringfield18873.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Trapdoor Springfield 1873 - .45-70.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWTrapdoorSpringfield1873-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Abe and Lige armed with Trapdoor Springfield 1873 rifles.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWTrapdoorSpringfield1873-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Abe tries to raise his Trapdoor Springfield after being shot, but is shot again. With all the weeds blocking the hammer, it is doubtful it would have fired anyway.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWTrapdoorSpringfield1873-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Trapdoor Springfield is seen slung over the Commachero rapist's back.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWTrapdoorSpringfield1873-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Wales' allies fires a Trapdoor Springfield from the house at the Red Legs.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWTrapdoorSpringfield1873-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another ally fires a Trapdoor Springfield at the Red Legs.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWTrapdoorSpringfield1873-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Laura Lee ([[Sondra Locke]]) fires a Trapdoor Springfield.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWTrapdoorSpringfield-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Laura Lee fires a Trapdoor Springfield, and doesn't put the stock to her shoulder, so it's a miracle she hits anything.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWTrapdoorSpringfield-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Laura Lee shoots a Red Leg entering the house through the roof with a Trapdoor Springfield.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Colt 1872 Gatling Gun==&lt;br /&gt;
Union troops use two [[Gatling Gun|Colt 1872 Gatling Gun]]s to mow down Josey Wales' ([[Clint Eastwood]]) comrades after they surrender, despite being an anachronistic firearm. Wales kills the gunner and loader in one of the gun carts and uses it to mow down Union troops and destroy the other gun. One of these guns was recently sold for a price of roughly $30,000 in a gun auction, in which they listed the gun as a Colt 1872 in .45-70 caliber. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gatling_gun_1865.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1865 Gatling Gun - .44 RF.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWGatlingGun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Union soldiers peak out of the gun cart before they massacre the rebels.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWGatlingGun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Union soldiers open up with the Colt 1872 Gatling Gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWGatlingGun-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ever heard of the rules of engagement? This kind of violates it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWGatlingGun-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales unleashes the ten-barreled behemoth on the Union soldiers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWGatlingGun-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wales mows down Union soldiers. By this point, this gun has fired ''way'' more than 35 rounds, its maximum capacity.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWGatlingGun-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FPS view of the Gatling Gun. Since Hollywood considers killing animals something only a villain should do, Wales manages to shoot all the Union soldiers off their horses without killing them.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Springfield 1861==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Springfield 1861|Springfield 1861 Rifles]] are seen throughout the movie in the hands of Confederate soldiers.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Springfield1861.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Springfield 1861 - .58 caliber Miné Ball.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWRifles-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Fletcher ([[John Vernon]]) with a Springfield rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWUnknownRifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rebel with a Springfield rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWRifles-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Confederate soldiers with Springfield rifles.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWRifles-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jamie ([[Sam Bottoms]]) with a Springfield 1861 rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWRifles-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebels' Enfield and Springfield rifles stacked up in the Union camp.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Enfield 1853==&lt;br /&gt;
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Enfield 1853 rifles are seen in the hands of Union and Confederate soldiers, as well as used by Lone Watie and Ten Bears.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TOJWRifles-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Union soldiers charge with Enfield 1853 rifles fitted with bayonets.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWRifles-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lone Watie with an Enfield 1853 rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWRifles-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lone Watie ([[Chief Dan George]]) with an Enfield 1853 rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWRifles-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ten Bears ([[Will Sampson]]) with an Enfield 1853 rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWRifles-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ten Bears with an Enfield 1853 rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWRifles-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebels' Enfield and Springfield rifles stacked up in the Union camp.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Howitzer Cannon==&lt;br /&gt;
Confederate soldiers are seen firing a Howitzer Cannon during a battle.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TOJWHowitzer-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Confederate soldiers fire a howitzer.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Western Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Clint Eastwood]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:National Film Registry]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Deadfall_Adventures&amp;diff=763130</id>
		<title>Talk:Deadfall Adventures</title>
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		<updated>2013-11-27T05:58:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: /* &amp;quot;Allan Quartermain Revolver&amp;quot; */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I will update the site as I play through the game -hchris&lt;br /&gt;
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:Is this game any good? I was considering buying this on Steam. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:22, 23 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Actually it is really enjoyable. The visuals are great, gameplay is fun, the puzzles are good too. It offers a lot of different, beautiful settings. The best thing is that you can play with a lot of different guns, some of them have never been in any other video game before (my list here is not complete yet, I am still updating the page as there are many many more guns ingame). If I were you I would buy it! One of the more innovative shooters/adventure I have played in recent years! - hchris&lt;br /&gt;
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I have looked through gameplay videos and many weapons seem to lack proper cartridge ejection, only the Suomi, MP-34, Fedorov and MG-34 seem to eject casings. Can you confirm if this is the case? Also, do the guns leave any casings on the ground after firing? [[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ|talk]]) 08:07, 24 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Will check tomorrow, did not pay attention to this -hchris&lt;br /&gt;
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I will add the missing screencaps over the next 2 or 3 days. -hchris&lt;br /&gt;
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Have you checked the ejection of casings on weapons yet, i am interested in finding out if my observation was correct? [[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ|talk]]) 15:47, 26 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Not yet sorry, but will do so tomorrow hopefully. - hchris&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Allan Quartermain Revolver&amp;quot;  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So recently, the devs announced the collector's edition of the game, which includes a DLC weapon called Allan Quartermain Revolver, after the iconic literary adventurer. I'd love to upload a screenshot, but I can't nail the file upload system here. If someone wants to see it, just look on the game's official website. It looks like a slightly modified Remington New Army 1875. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 21:39, 25 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Yep true, I have the collectors edition, will upload the screenshots. It is actually a Pietta Revolver.&lt;br /&gt;
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What exactly is the Pietta Revolver, what gun is it supposed to be? A Remington 1875 replica? Are there any images of a real version of the in-game revolver? [[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ|talk]]) 14:20, 26 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Honestly I am not 100% sure. I am not really a revolver expert, but if you google Pietta revolver a real life version of the one ingame comes up. I think we need a specialist here to identify it properly. -hchris&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Remington1858brassframe.jpeg‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The 'Quartermain Pietta' appears to be a Remington 1858 with a standard 8-inch barrel and an interesting 'tri-tone' mixture of parts including a brass frame, a blued cylinder, and a worn-out steel-gray barrel; note the shape of the tall front sight, the shape near the front of the frame where it steps down to meet the barrel, and the signature triangular loading lever that stayed in the design until Remington's model 1875 revolver.  The screenshots make for interesting assumptions about the reloading process, as the cylinder seems to be flush with the rear of the cylinder, indicating that a cartridge-conversion cylinder is in place, but the right of the frame appears to be completely filled in, thereby denying access to the rear of the cylinder for both the insertion/extraction of cartridges AND the application of percussion caps; basically, unless the reloading animation is that of removing the cylinder (the ease of the process making it an American Civil War favorite), reloading appears to be simply impossible!  I have not yet played the game and don't know if it swings open or not, but I do think the game model is interesting.&lt;br /&gt;
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Boy, video games sure do get my panties in a twist.&lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, Pietta is an Italian company that makes reproductions of blackpowder firearms, so googling 'Pietta revolver' would definitely turn up pretty much everything from the time period! --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] ([[User talk:ZeoRanger5|talk]]) 00:58, 27 November 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Can anybody identify the following (see screenshots on the page) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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- What kind of scope is the AVS36 using, is it fictional?&lt;br /&gt;
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- What kind of scope is the Kar98k using?&lt;br /&gt;
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- Pietta Revolver, what is it? Here is an additional screenshot.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Piette ident.jpg|thumb|none|400px|What is this?]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:Remington1858brassframe.jpeg&amp;diff=763124</id>
		<title>File:Remington1858brassframe.jpeg</title>
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		<updated>2013-11-27T05:54:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: Remington 1858 brass frame for reference to the video game Deadfall Adventures&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Remington 1858 brass frame for reference to the video game Deadfall Adventures&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Edge_of_Darkness&amp;diff=752237</id>
		<title>Edge of Darkness</title>
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		<updated>2013-10-23T07:49:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: /* Glock 23 */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:EOD1.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Edge of Darkness'' (2010)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''The following firearms were used in the film ''Edge of Darkness'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 23==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Glock|Glock 23]] is the sidearm carried by Boston PD Detective Thomas Craven ([[Mel Gibson]]) throughout the film. He uses it on multiple occasions, most notably to dispatch some of Northmoor's private security personnel working for Jack Bennet ([[Danny Huston]]). When Craven enters David Burnham's apartment, the &amp;quot;23&amp;quot; slide markings are clearly visible. The Glock 23 is also the real life issue weapon of Boston Police Department's officers and detectives.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GibsonGlock.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hero Glock 23 used by Mel Gibson in ''Edge of Darkness''. Courtesy of NRA National Firearms Museum.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A production still shows Thomas Craven holding his Glock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another production still of Thomas Craven.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Thomas Craven's Glock in his holster.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD 101.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Craven comes knockin' on David Burnham's door. ''Note: here we can see the slide markings, which confirm the gun as a Glock 23.  Also note the depressed trigger, indicating the weapon has not been made ready.'']]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD 102.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is not a preferable method for Law Enforcement to enter a room or building, as a suspect lying in wait could easily grab the gun before the officer is through the door...which is exactly what happens to Craven.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD 3008.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Craven draws his Glock against a Northmoor henchman.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EODG23sideprofile.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Craven fires his Glock at the henchman's car. Here we get a nice side view of Craven's Glock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD 111.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Craven fires his Glock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EODG23_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''&amp;quot;Like your name and what you're doin' here.&amp;quot;''' Craven aims his Glock at Jedburgh.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EODG23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''&amp;quot;Yeah, I'm funny like that.&amp;quot;''' Craven pulls his Glock on Bennett's henchmen.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Springfield Ultra Compact==&lt;br /&gt;
Thomas Craven ([[Mel Gibson]]) finds a [[Springfield Armory Ultra Compact]] with Hogue rubber grips from Emma Craven's ([[Bojana Novakovic]]) bedroom. The firearm belongs to Emma's boyfriend Dan Burnham ([[Shawn Roberts]]). Craven later gives this firearm back to Burnham to protect himself.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Springfield_ultra_compact.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Springfield Armory Ultra Compact - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD1A.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Craven ([[Mel Gibson]]) discovers the Ultra Compact in Emma's nightstand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Craven checks the load in the Ultra Compact.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD_suc.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Craven shows Burnham his own Springfield, and questions him at the same time.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD_suc_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Burnham holds his Ultra Compact after Craven gives it back to him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A production image of Craven showing the Ultra Compact to Dan Burnham ([[Shawn Roberts]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch P2000SK==&lt;br /&gt;
Darius Jedburgh's ([[Ray Winstone]]) sidearm throughout the film is a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch P2000|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch P2000SK]]. He uses it a few times, most notably at the senator's house.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:H&amp;amp;KP200SK_Right.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch P2000SK - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD8.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A production still shows Jedburgh holding his gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jedburgh ([[Ray Winstone]]) fires his P2000SK.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD 3004.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD 115.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jedburgh holds his gun at the senator.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD_HK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''&amp;quot;By what standard?&amp;quot;''']]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD_HK2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jedburgh fires the gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG-Sauer P220R==&lt;br /&gt;
Northmoor's private security officers, including Jack Bennett's bodyguards Agent One ([[Frank Grillo]]) and Agent Two ([[Peter Epstein]]) all carry [[SIG-Sauer P220|SIG-Sauer P220R]] pistols as their sidearms. Craven ([[Mel Gibson]]) also takes one from Bennett's driver and uses it to scare him.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SIGP220R Standard.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer P220R - .45 ACP]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD7G.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bennett ([[Danny Huston]]) gets an uncomfortable experience courtesy of Craven ([[Mel Gibson]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD9I.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''&amp;quot;What does it feel like?&amp;quot;''']]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD_p226r.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Agent One aims his P220R at Craven.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD_p226r_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''&amp;quot;Hello, Craven.&amp;quot;''']]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD 3009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Agent One runs down the stairs with his P220R in hand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose==&lt;br /&gt;
Jack Bennett ([[Danny Huston]]) uses what appears to be a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 19|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose]] during the climactic firefight. This is the only frame in which the revolver is visible and it's very fast so the screencap quality suffers somewhat.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:S&amp;amp;W Model 19.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose - .357 Magnum]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD11K.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bennett ([[Danny Huston]]) with his Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 19.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glock 17==&lt;br /&gt;
A security guard working for the senator is briefly seen firing a [[Glock 17]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 17 (2nd Generation) - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD_G17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The security guard pulls his Glock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sawed Off 12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun==&lt;br /&gt;
A sawed-off [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] is used by Agent One ([[Frank Grillo]]) to murder Tom Craven's daughter, Emma Craven, at the beginning of the film. One is also seen on a dead hitman's table, who's being used as a fall guy.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington SBS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Remington Spartan Sawed Off shotgun - 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD_lupara.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Agent One fires a lupara at Craven.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD5E.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Craven ([[Mel Gibson]]) watches a crime scene technician dust the weapon for prints.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M4A1==&lt;br /&gt;
The Boston PD S.W.A.T. uses [[M16 rifle series|M4A1 Carbines]] fitted with EOTech holosights and tactical lights, while serving an arrest warrant on a suspect.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|none|none|thumb|500px|Colt M4A1 with 6 position collapsible stock - 5.56x45mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:EOD4D.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Boston S.W.A.T. with the [[M4A1]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Crime]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Detective]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Mystery]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Espionage]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:British Produced/Filmed]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Martin Campbell]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=The_Lone_Ranger_(2013)&amp;diff=750756</id>
		<title>The Lone Ranger (2013)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=The_Lone_Ranger_(2013)&amp;diff=750756"/>
		<updated>2013-10-19T11:52:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: /* Single Action Army 'Artillery' */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{NowShowing}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Infobox Movie|{{PAGENAME}}&lt;br /&gt;
|name=''The Lone Ranger''&lt;br /&gt;
|picture = TheLoneRanger2013Poster.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|caption =   ''Theatrical Movie Poster''&lt;br /&gt;
|country = [[Image:USA.jpg|25px]] United States&lt;br /&gt;
|director = Gore Verbinski&lt;br /&gt;
|date =  2013&lt;br /&gt;
|language=English&lt;br /&gt;
|studio=Jerry Bruckheimer Films&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Blind Wink&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Infinitum Nihil&lt;br /&gt;
|character1=The Lone Ranger / John Reid&lt;br /&gt;
|actor1=[[Armie Hammer]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character2=Tonto&lt;br /&gt;
|actor2=[[Johnny Depp]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character3=Butch Cavendish&lt;br /&gt;
|actor3=[[William Fichtner]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character4=Captain Jay Fuller&lt;br /&gt;
|actor4=[[Barry Pepper]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character5=Latham Cole&lt;br /&gt;
|actor5=[[Tom Wilkinson]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character6=Red Harrington&lt;br /&gt;
|actor6=[[Helena Bonham Carter]]&lt;br /&gt;
|character7=Dan Reid&lt;br /&gt;
|actor7=[[James Badge Dale]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''''The Lone Ranger''''' is a 2013 Western that is a new telling of the Lone Ranger legend popularized in radio, film in addition to the [[The Lone Ranger (1949)|well known 1950's television series]]. Despite the title, this film has an emphasis on the Lone Ranger's sidekick Tonto (portrayed by [[Johnny Depp]]). The film was directed by Gore Verbinski (''[[Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl]]'') and the cast includes [[Armie Hammer]] as the title character.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Film Title|The Lone Ranger}}&lt;br /&gt;
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__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=all&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Single Action Army 'Artillery'==&lt;br /&gt;
The Lone Ranger's ([[Armie Hammer]]) primary firearm is his nickel plated [[Single Action Army|5.5&amp;quot; Single Action Army 'Artillery' model]] chambered in .45 Long Colt, which is anachronistic of the film's setting (1869).&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SAA Artillery Cimarron.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Single Action Army w/ 5.5&amp;quot; barrel aka &amp;quot;Artillery&amp;quot; model with wooden grips (this is a  Cimarron reproduction - and an actual movie gun) Note lack of 4th screw on revolver frame in front of cylinder.  The Colts all have this.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LR-revolver.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Lone Ranger cocks his Single Action Army.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LR-revolver-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Lone Ranger's holstered SAA and whip hanging on his hip.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TheLoneRangerCavendish.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Butch Cavendish holds his sidearm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==W. W. Marston Three-Barrel Derringer==&lt;br /&gt;
Red Harrington ([[Helena Bonham Carter]]) pulls a [[W. W. Marston Three-Barrel Derringer]] on Tonto and John Reid.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MarstonD1857.jpg|thumb|none|300px|W. W. Marston Three-Barrel Derringer, 3&amp;quot; barrels - .32 Rimfire]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TheLoneRanger3Barrel.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==12 Gauge Prosthetic Leg Double-Barreled Shotgun==&lt;br /&gt;
Red Harrington ([[Helena Bonham Carter]]) has a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] hidden inside her prosthetic leg.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CharlesParker1878Shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Charles Parker 1878 Side by Side Shotgun - 12 Gauge. The Parker Gun Company was absorbed into Remington in 1934.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TheLoneRanger12Gauge.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Colt 1874 Gatling Gun==&lt;br /&gt;
Mounted on a tripod is a [[Gatling Gun|Colt 1874 Gatling Gun]] fitted with a 40 round magazine. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Gatling.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Gatling Gun - .45-70.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LR-gatling.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The Gatling gun is seen in a bunker.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TheLoneRangerGatling.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Adventure Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Action Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Western]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Underworld_(2003)&amp;diff=614360</id>
		<title>Talk:Underworld (2003)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Underworld_(2003)&amp;diff=614360"/>
		<updated>2012-09-20T19:31:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;=Melee and Edged Weapons=&lt;br /&gt;
==Silver Razor Whip==&lt;br /&gt;
Kraven's enforcer Soren ([[Scott McElroy]]) uses silver-plated razor whips to fight Raze ([[Kevin Grevioux]]) but one gets caught and Soren is killed.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Underworld-RazorWhip-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soren ([[Scott McElroy]]) wields two silver razor whips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Long Sword==&lt;br /&gt;
Viktor ([[Bill Nighy]]) uses a long sword to finish off Raze ([[Kevin Grevioux]]) in werewolf form; after Viktor drops the sword in battle with Michael ([[Scott Speedman]]), Selene ([[Kate Beckinsale]]) takes it up.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Underworld-Sword-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Selene looks over at the long sword on the ground.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Underworld-Sword-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Selene armed with the sword.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Underworld-Sword-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up on the sword in Selene's hand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fighting Knives==&lt;br /&gt;
Without his sword, Viktor ([[Bill Nighy]]) whips out two immense fighting knives during the final battle.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Underworld-ShortSwords-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Viktor holding his twin fighting knives.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Retractable Arm Blade==&lt;br /&gt;
Lucian ([[Michael Sheen]]) uses a blade that extends from his sleeve in an attempt to stop Selene ([[Kate Beckinsale]]) and Michael ([[Scott Speedman]]) as he pursues them.  He later distracts Kraven ([[Shane Brolly]]) by stabbing him in the leg with it.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Underworld-ArmBlade-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lucian extends his arm blade. That seems rather cumbersome to wear comfortabley on a regular basis.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Silver Shuriken Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Selene ([[Kate Beckinsale]]) uses several retractable shuriken throwing stars made of silver to combat the Lycans.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Underworld-SilverShuruken-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Four shuriken blades in flight as Selene throws them at Raze.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Underworld-SilverShuruken-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The bloody shurikens as they are extracted from Raze's chest.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Discussion=&lt;br /&gt;
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== M16A2 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The pistol grip on the M16 appears to be lacking the finger notch which is on the A2 but not on the A1. It is difficult to be certain from the picture. This could be an A1 with A2-style handguards. Does anyone know for certain?&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's not an M16A2. The upper seems to have no forward assist, so that means it's an M16A1 upper. The lower is an SP1-style lower. It's just like this gun:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[Image:M16A1 SP1 A2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt AR-15 Sporter-1 (SP1) with M16A2 hand guards 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:06, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Full auto P99s ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't remember those P99s being full autos. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In reality, they aren't, but in the opening scene, after Seline tosses her Beretta's for her P99's, she fires a few times, then they cut to a different character, cut back to Selene and she's firing them as if they were fully automatic. [[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] 23:01, 23 April 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Modified Beretta 92FS ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, are the compensators attached to Selene's Beretta 92FS are real world compensator or were the designed specifically for the film? 29 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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dose Selene had two Beretta 92FS, two P99s, and a USP conpact on her at all times?&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think so. It's been awhile since I've seen the movie, but IIRC, she carried the Berettas for the first part of the movie, then switched to the Walthers once they started using the silver nitrate rounds. And she never used the USP in combat, she only used it at the mansion firing range, which being part of the mansion armory, has multiple weapons available. Guessing she just picked it up &amp;quot;in house&amp;quot; for her target shooting, it doesn't appear to be anything she carries with her regularly. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 05:30, 26 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Selene's Berettas do not seem to have real compensators like in Evolution, but more like covers for the extended barrels.  There are no ports on top of the &amp;quot;covers&amp;quot; and the still showing Selene firing, only muzzle flash is seen and no flash upwards as with a normal compensator.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, she does use the P99s in combat, in the end when the vampires attack the lycan hideout.  You can clearly see them when she jumps down the tunnel, and when she does a forward flip while shooting a lycan. --[[User:Jan|Jan]] 23:43, 1 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I never said she didn't use the P99's in combat. I said she didn't use the USP in combat. The letters &amp;quot;USP&amp;quot; look nothing like &amp;quot;P99&amp;quot; so not sure how you made that mistake. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 06:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Burst 92 conversion? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Would it be possible to convert a Beretta 92FS to fire 3 round burst rather than full auto? I ask as I saw this movie the other today, and it seemed as if Selene was firing consistent 3 round bursts, and she seemed to be repeatedly &amp;quot;clicking&amp;quot; the triggers rather than holding them. Can you &amp;quot;drop in&amp;quot; a component from the 93R to do this, or is it not that simple?  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 20:21, 8 August 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== unknown SMG? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the unknown SMG is a PM-63 Submachine gun. what do you guys think? --[[User:Fenris357|Fenris357]] 16:17, 08 October 2011&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree. You can just about make out the unfolded forward grip at the top, along with the long slanted compensator.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:49, 8 October 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beretta Triggers ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BerettaTriggersUnderworld.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an image from a recent Cinemax plug for Underworld on Facebook.  I was admiring the Berettas when suddenly, I noticed that the hammers were to the rear....but the triggers were still in double-action.  Any explanation for this phenomenon? --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] ([[User talk:ZeoRanger5|talk]]) 15:31, 20 September 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:BerettaTriggersUnderworld.jpg&amp;diff=614356</id>
		<title>File:BerettaTriggersUnderworld.jpg</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=File:BerettaTriggersUnderworld.jpg&amp;diff=614356"/>
		<updated>2012-09-20T19:26:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: Kate Beckinsale in Underworld promotional material from Cinemax, showing clearly that the hammers are to the rear, but the triggers are still double-action.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Kate Beckinsale in Underworld promotional material from Cinemax, showing clearly that the hammers are to the rear, but the triggers are still double-action.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Go_Tell_the_Spartans&amp;diff=604363</id>
		<title>Talk:Go Tell the Spartans</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Go_Tell_the_Spartans&amp;diff=604363"/>
		<updated>2012-08-23T07:13:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: /* Mauser 1871/84 */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Since the VC only attacked at night, it really wasn't possible for me to get caps of any of their weapons. You may notice that many of the nighttime caps have muzzle flashes, some of which were necessary as there were no other sources of light. Others come from when there are flares overhead.--[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 01:26, 23 August 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mauser 1871/84 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Are we sure it's a 71/84?  The bolt looks to short, there's only one barrel band, and it's lacking a cleaning rod (although it could have been removed deliberately).  I ain't an expert in Mausers, but I'd guess it's an early turn-of-the-century model.  I'd guess it to be a 93 or 95 based on the straight handle of the stock, but it doesn't have the barrel band spring?  My next guess was maybe a Turkish, but the grip on that is almost always curved, as far as I know.  Any Mauser enthusiasts wanna give it a crack? --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 02:13, 23 August 2012 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=User:ZeoRanger5&amp;diff=570081</id>
		<title>User:ZeoRanger5</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=User:ZeoRanger5&amp;diff=570081"/>
		<updated>2012-06-01T08:16:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Applesauce, bitch.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Largo_Winch_(2008)&amp;diff=570080</id>
		<title>Talk:Largo Winch (2008)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Largo_Winch_(2008)&amp;diff=570080"/>
		<updated>2012-06-01T08:13:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: /* Unknown pistol */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;=Unknowns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown SMG==&lt;br /&gt;
A caretaker at the orphanage who catches Largo and Goran breaking in is armed with an known SMG. The user who made the page IDed it as an MP5A5, but I can't even tell the type, much less the sub-type.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LW_unknown_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
Marcus is armed with an unknown pistol when he ambushes Largo. I initially just assumed it was the same Walther P99 that Marcus carries throughout the film, but it's not. Thoughts? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 20:14, 31 May 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LW_P99_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The accessory rail is different, and it looks smaller.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I betcha it's a Steyr M series pistol.  --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 03:13, 1 June 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=Discussion=&lt;br /&gt;
==Not a Mossberg 500==&lt;br /&gt;
Look at the ejection port. mpm&lt;br /&gt;
:I had my doubts about it. The original creator of the page had it as a Mossberg 500, and I sort of ran with it. Any ideas? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 21:46, 31 May 2012 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Hikonin_Sentai_Akibaranger&amp;diff=568619</id>
		<title>Talk:Hikonin Sentai Akibaranger</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Hikonin_Sentai_Akibaranger&amp;diff=568619"/>
		<updated>2012-05-28T08:27:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Explanation please==&lt;br /&gt;
Please explain to the viewers why the screenshots look like pictures of a picture..... THanks.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:29, 28 May 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It was a cinematic effect in the episode; the Akibarangers were transferring themselves to fight a bad guy inside of a movie, and what appears to be the frame of a computer monitor to the sides of the screenshots are actually curtains that had opened to reveal the movie screen.  The quality of the video itself was in the vein of gangster movies and was adjusted visually to fit the theme. --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 03:27, 28 May 2012 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Call_of_Duty:_Black_Ops_II&amp;diff=556043</id>
		<title>Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops II</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Call_of_Duty:_Black_Ops_II&amp;diff=556043"/>
		<updated>2012-05-01T21:38:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: /* Come On */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== XM8? ==&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-070805.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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Weapon in the pic looks like a modified XM8 [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 15:28, 1 May 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks like the hybrid ACR from RE6 --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:31, 1 May 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Future Warfare ==&lt;br /&gt;
:http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-070805.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
:http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-074340.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
:http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-070746.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
:http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120501-065949.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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The game is set in near future, rumours say it's in 2027. [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 15:28, 1 May 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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That's what we've been needing. More future crap. ~ACE&lt;br /&gt;
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Call Of Recon: Ghost Ops --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 15:35, 1 May 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, I've given up on the series now that being on top of five grenades when they go off doesn't kill people.[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:03, 1 May 2012 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Come On ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is NOTHING warranting a page for this yet.  All of you fanboys need to drop your cocks and have a little patience.  Would any IMFDB mods put up with this for any other page or project with the same amount of leaked content, being 1, maybe 2 usable pictures?  No way; this whole thing strikes me as ridiculous.  If there's nothing concrete worth putting on the main page, stick to the Treyarch forums.  It's insane how quickly the COD community jumped onto it on IMFDB.  It's fucking preposterous to discuss ONE PICTURE for a WHOLE GAME THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED YET.  Please, fanboys, calm down, and don't get ahead of yourselves.  --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 16:38, 1 May 2012 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Max_Payne_2:_The_Fall_of_Max_Payne&amp;diff=463036</id>
		<title>Talk:Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne</title>
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&lt;div&gt;What exactly is this handgun ?&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mp2colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|An unknown handgun is seen in the hands of a character in the extreme right]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Given where the scope's mounted and the look of the thing, I think it's a scoped Desert Eagle; the part you're seeing as a revolver cylinder is actually the gripped area around the safety lever. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:22, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That's a picture of the game when it was still in development. Hence the Colt M733 instead of the M4 and the scope on the Desert Eagle.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:30, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==REDO==&lt;br /&gt;
I have no idea if anyone cares at this point, but I might redo this page. I have the PC version, which has high quality screenshots from things that actually are in the game. So we can stop using those Gamespot pictures of questionable legality and relevance. Lemme know what you think if you care. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Work in progress, will finish it after getting the rest of the needed screenshots. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Custom Desert Eagle XIX==&lt;br /&gt;
How about that? Just don't zoom in. :P --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP2customEagle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|An inexpertly crafted Pshop of the MP2 Desert Eagle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's not too bad. Someone with more photoshop experience could help you make better grips. I've noticed that Vlad keeps one as his signature pistol as well. During the &amp;quot;That old familiar feeling&amp;quot; level Vlad drops it when both he and Max crash through the floor. Vlad curses his bad luck at not having a gun when Max is vulnerable and flees, not knowing that Max has landed on top of Vlad's gun, swearing he'll &amp;quot;give it back to [Vlad], one bullet at a time!&amp;quot;.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:12, 2 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, I couldn't copy paste the grips so I just smeared 'em on! I had a marathon gaming session the other day, and took a huge load of screen caps from the second half of the game, only to find out that my screen shot button wasn't working. Major drag. I'll get around to finishing the rest of the page. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As you can see, I have replaced ManiacallyChallenged's Photoshopped Desert Eagle with what I believe to have been the exact same Desert Eagle that inspired the texture artists and 3D modelers who worked on ''Max Payne 2''.  This one belongs to Rick Washburn's Weapons Specialists, Ltd. in New York and was originally used in ''[[The Sopranos]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Also, I wonder if the artists who did this game actually went to Weapons Specialists and rented weapons from their inventory to use as references and for texture photographing?  The fact that their Desert Eagle looks just like the one that Washburn provided for ''[[The Sopranos]]'' is a pretty big hint, and so is the fact that the game's MP5 is actually a partially-converted HK94A3. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Hmm, when did this gun first appear in the Sopranos? Were the developers of Max Payne 2 fans of the show? The game was released in 2003 and the Sopranos first aired in 1999. Maybe if you contacted that specific armourer you could verify whether Rockstar approached them for weapons they could reference from way back in 2003. Sadly it looks like they couldn't actually get anyone in the know to show them the proper method of reloading some of them, like how the Striker Shotgun's reload method isn't accurately portrayed. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 23:14, 29 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::The &amp;quot;Pine Barrens&amp;quot; episode in The Sopranos aired in '01. That's my favorite episode from the series.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:24, 29 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I've never seen that episode of ''The Sopranos'' (I've only seen a few episodes of the show).  But it seems quite likely to me that they must have gone to Weapons Specialists and photographed the Desert Eagle used in ''The Sopranos''.  Rockstar is based in New York City, and so is Weapons Specialists (they are pretty much ''the'' armory that caters to all of the productions done in the Northeast - NYC, Boston, etc.)  Plus, again, the use of the partially-converted HK94A3 is a big clue.  Before MPM took the picture of the gun we have on our site, there were no pictures of the partial HK94-to-MP5 conversions anywhere on the 'Net (believe me, I checked).  The only place you'd find a gun like that to photograph would be in a movie armory. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:41, 29 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::That's interesting. Still, I think at least a few people here (MPM2008 among them) could just place a phone call to those people and confirm once and for all whether Rockstar used their weapons. Would be nice to have around on this wiki. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 00:19, 30 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::They have a web site, which is where I found the picture.  They may or not respond to emails.  I'm also not sure if they'll be OK with us using any of their gun pictures. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:39, 30 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Desert Eagle caliber ==&lt;br /&gt;
So which caliber is the Deagle exactly ? Two shot kills and 9+1 capacity indicate .357 Magnum but the model suggests .50 AE&lt;br /&gt;
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:- The caliber isn't explicit, possibly because of those reasons. It's partly assumed to be .357 because of the magazine capacity. But it's also assumed to be .50AE because of the model and it's markings, though I personally think that's an oversight.I myself would say it's .357 and as for it looking like the .50AE variant, including markings, that is most probably just because the designers modeled the weapon off a .50AE variant - Game weapon models aren't known to be excessively precise to the exact weapons they represent. In any case, again, the game isn't explicit about what caliber the game weapon actually is, so I'm afraid you might not get an answer. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:12, 9 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Kalashnikov ==&lt;br /&gt;
While the AK in the game looks like a Type 56 it could just as easily be a Hungarian model judging by the color of the wood on the grips. Plus, it has the standard AKM slant compensator. I could be wrong about this, so feel free to clarify.  Hughjefender&lt;br /&gt;
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:- I think some more pics of the in-game AK would be needed here. Wood color isn't a real good attribute to judge one variant from another. The slanted compensator is a good detail to judge with, but numerous AK types can be (and indeed have been) fitted with the slanted compensators so it doesn't really tell us much of anything. In any case, only Chinese-made AKs have full-hooded front sights, so that the deciding detail - If that's what the game weapon has, it can only be a Type 56. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 21:51, 13 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It has a full-hooded front sight, so it's a Type 56. - Scott, 13. September 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bye-bye Gamespot==&lt;br /&gt;
I have swapped the Gamespot images with my screenshots without any stupid watermarks and also added images for the missing weapons. Unfortunately I did not upload new versions of the Gamespot images, so now those three images are unused. Could anyone delete these? &lt;br /&gt;
* Mp2m870.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
* Mp2striker.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
* Mp2striker2.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 21:59, 13 March 2011 (MSK)&lt;br /&gt;
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== M4A1? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't think so. Look at the muzzle brake. The barrel is also longer, especially noticeable in a graphic novel panel when carried by police officers. If anything it's a Bushmaster or another civilian AR15 carbine.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Jovantheun1337|Jovantheun1337]] 19:23, 2 April 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anyone spot the incredibly clever joke in the funhouse level? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'll explain if nobody did, it's to do with how the level is designed. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:48, 26 September 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Does the level's layout spell something? It's difficult to tell this without a level editor. I still have a copy of this game, so I'll take a look into it. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 11:02, 26 September 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I would love to get this game on my PC sometime soon. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 14:36, 26 September 2011 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What exactly is the joke?  I recently re-played this game for shoots and googles after I saw the MP3 trailer, but I don't see anything out of the ordinary about any of the three funhouse levels. --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 15:43, 26 September 2011 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Dawn_of_the_Dead_(2004)&amp;diff=419456</id>
		<title>Dawn of the Dead (2004)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were used in the movie ''[[Dawn of the Dead (2004)|Dawn of the Dead]]'''''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Dawn_of_the_dead_poster.jpg|right|300px|thumb|''[[Dawn of the Dead (2004)|Dawn of the Dead]]'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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== M1911A1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
In the beginning of the film when the zombie outbreak first starts, one of Ana's ([[Sarah Polley]]) neighbors can be seen with a [[M1911A1]] pistol and threatening  her to stay back before he is hit by an out of control ambulance.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ana's neighbor with a [[M1911A1]] pistol.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== M60E4 Machine Gun ==&lt;br /&gt;
In the opening credits during one of the various news broadcasts, a soldier (played by director Zack Snyder) can be seen firing an [[M60 machine gun#M60E4 Machine Gun|M60E4]] machine gun in front of the U.S. Capitol. Note the large triangular front sight.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M60E4 large.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60E4 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_SAW.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Director Zack Snyder (center left) firing an [[M60E4]] during the opening credit sequence.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36 ==&lt;br /&gt;
During the opening credits during one of the news broadcasts, a soldier can be seen firing a [[H&amp;amp;K G36|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36]] assault rifle (fitted with a G36C-style carry handle) before being overwhelmed by zombies.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:G36.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_G36.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A UN soldier firing a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36]] in the opening credits.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Remington 870 ==&lt;br /&gt;
Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) uses a police issue [[Remington 870]] shotgun fitted with a Surefire flashlight attachment on the foregrip as his signature weapon. He uses it for most of the film until the survivors go to rescue Nicole (Lindy Booth). He loses the weapon when it runs out of ammunition and a zombie grabs it out of his hand. The gun was also briefly used by Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) to incapacitate the undead Ben Cozine early on in the film.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rem870w618Surefire.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun with Model 618 Surefire Light mounted in front - 12 gauge.  This is the version used in the film.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth carrying his [[Remington 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of Kenneth's [[Remington 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth shoots a lock off a door with his [[Remington 870|870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth aims his [[Remington 870]] at a zombie attacking Luda (Inna Korobkina).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-5.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Kenneth's [[Remington 870]] on the floor while he fights with a zombie in the mall's fountain.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington-870-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) fires Kenneth's [[Remington 870]] at a zombie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beretta 92FS Inox ==&lt;br /&gt;
Andre ([[Mekhi Phifer]]) uses a [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta Inox|Beretta 92FS Inox]] as his weapon. This pistol is also used  by other characters, mainly CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) when he clears out the lower level of the mall of any zombies. Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) also gets ahold of this weapon when he disarms CJ and holds it on him during the argument on the rooftop of the mall. Steve ([[Ty Burrell]]) can also been seen with a [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta Inox|Beretta Inox]] with a blued trigger, hammer, safety, disassembly latch, and slide release when he gets out of the crashed bus, a continuity error is seen when the referred parts are stainless when he checks the gun's load.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS Inox 9mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andre with his [[Beretta M92F#Beretta Inox|Beretta Inox]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andre firing his [[Beretta M92F#Beretta Inox|Beretta Inox]] at an approaching zombie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andre taunts a zombie behind shatter proof glass with his [[Beretta M92F#Beretta Inox|Beretta 92FS Inox]] in hand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ kills a zombie with Andre's [[Beretta M92F#Beretta Inox|Beretta]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ holds Andre's [[Beretta M92F#Beretta Inox|Beretta]] on Kevin during the argument on the rooftop.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Different angle of the above scene.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth holds the [[Beretta M92F#Beretta Inox|Beretta Inox]] on CJ after taking it away from him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andre's [[Beretta M92F#Beretta Inox|Beretta Inox]] locks empty while holding off some zombies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of Andre's [[Beretta M92F#Beretta Inox|Beretta Inox]] during his firefight with Norma, &amp;quot;Stainless&amp;quot; can clearly be seen underneath the front of the barrel.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steve picks up a [[Beretta M92F#Beretta Inox|Beretta Inox]] after the bus he's in crashes, notice how the trigger, hammer, safety, disassembly latch, and slide release are blued.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|And now those parts are stainless when Steve checks the load.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andre with his Beretta in a promotional photo..]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27 / 28 ==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the mall's security guards, CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) is seen with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27 / 28|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] .357 Magnum when we first see him. Later in the film, a struggle ensues between the survivors that are currently in the mall and the former security guards on whether or not to let more survivors into the mall with CJ threatening to kill everyone to stay alive, but when he is distracted, the survivors disarm both CJ and Bart ([[Michael Barry]]). The revolver is then mainly used by Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) for the rest of the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Model28g.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27 with 4&amp;quot; barrel - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolvers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27 / 28]] and Bart ([[Michael Barry]]) with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27]] laying on a counter just before Michael picks it up.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13 ==&lt;br /&gt;
Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]) uses a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]] throughout the film. Bart ([[Michael Barry]]) can also be seen with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]] revolver before it is taken from him by the other survivors.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Smith&amp;amp;WessonModel13.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13 - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolvers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 27 / 28]] and Bart with a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Terry draws his [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 13]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mossberg 500 Cruiser/Remington 870(Compact) ==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the survivors, Tucker ([[Boyd Banks]]) has a [[Mossberg_500#Mossberg_500_.22Cruiser.22|Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] with a pistol grip. This weapon is also used by Micheal ([[Jake Weber]]) and CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]). Tucker's shotgun switched brands several times during the movie, changing from a [[Mossberg_500#Mossberg_500_.22Cruiser.22|Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] to a short [[Remington 870]] as the close up below shows.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mossbergcruiser1.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870Pstlgrip.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Short-barreled Remington 870 with pistol grip.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tucker fires a [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] on the top of Norma's ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth turns off the safety on the [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] while it is in Micheal's possesion.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tucker fires his [[Remington 870]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DEAD14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tucker fires his shorty [[Remington 870]]]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== M40A1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
The owner of the gun store across the street, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) has an [[M40 sniper rifle]] rifle with a folding bipod which he uses to play Hollywood Squares with the other survivors stranded in the mall on the other side of the street in which Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) shows Andy a celebrity's name on a dry erase board, and Andy puts a bullet in the zombie look-a-like's head. CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) later uses Andy's rifle to explode a propane tank to clear a path to the sewers for the other survivors.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M40a1standard-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Remington M40 sniper rifle 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_M40.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andy with a M40A1.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_M40_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ about to fire Andy's M40A1 rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-M40-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the Trigger guard as CJ fires the M40A1.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-M40-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ discard the M40A1 after blowing up the propane tank.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 ==&lt;br /&gt;
Norma ([[Jayne Eastwood]]) uses a stainless [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 Snub Nose]]. Later when Norma dies, Ana (([[Sarah Polley]])) uses this weapon to kill a zombified baby, and it is also seen when the survivors go to rescue Nicole ([[Lindy Booth]]) at Andy's ([[Bruce Bohne]]). &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mod66wPachmayr.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Smith and Wesson Model 66 with 2.5&amp;quot; barrel (snub-nose) - .357 Magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W_19-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of Norma's [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 Snub Nose]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W-19-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ using Norma's [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 Snub Nose]] outside Andy's Gun Works.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_S&amp;amp;W-19-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Anna fires the [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66 Snub Nose]] on the dock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP ==&lt;br /&gt;
When Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]), CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]), Terry ([[Kevin Zegers]]), and Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) enter Andy's ([[Bruce Bohne]]) gun store to rescue Nicole ([[Lindy Booth]]), they find an unloaded [[H&amp;amp;K USP]] laying on the bloody floor. This is presumed to be the gun Andy was using to fend off zombies while letting Chips, outfitted with food, through a doggy door before being bitten and infected by a zombie.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:USP9mm.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch USP 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_USP.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andy's unloaded [[H&amp;amp;K USP]] laying on the bloody floor.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Custom Remington 870 ==&lt;br /&gt;
After the survivors rescue Nicole ([[Lindy Booth]]) and load up at the gun store, Kenneth ([[Ving Rhames]]) packs a [[Remington 870|Custom Remington 870]] shotgun fitted with a magazine extension tube and Mossberg style ghost ring sights (this is possible since some parts are easily swapped between Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 series shotguns) and uses it while the remaining survivors make their escape out of Milwaukee. Kenneth most notably uses this shotgun when he blows the top half of a zombified Andy's ([[Bruce Bohne]]'s) head off. Ving also knows how to use a weapon effectively, because he doesn't flinch excessively and whenever he isn't firing, he demonstrates the excellent trigger discipline of a Marine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Custom870wMossbergGhostRing.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Custom Remington 870 combat shotgun with Mossberg Ghost Ring sights - 12 gauge. (identical configuration to the shotgun in the film: This weapon was assembled and built specially for IMFDB by [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth about to fire his newly aquired [[Remington 870|Custom Remington 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth with his [[Remington 870|Custom Remington 870]] in the gunstore]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Mossberg4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth fires his [[Remington 870|Custom Remington 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the ejection port on Kenneth's [[Remington 870|Custom 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth fires his [[Remington 870|Custom 870]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth gets out of the  bus with his [[Remington 870|Custom Remington 870]] in hand.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Custom-870-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kenneth fires his [[Remington 870|Custom 870]] at the docks.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Franchi PA8 ==&lt;br /&gt;
When the survivors load up at the Andy's ([[Bruce Bohne]]) gun store, CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) arms himself with a [[Franchi PA8]] with a factory folding stock and high-capacity magazine tube, and uses it while they make their escape out of Milwaukee. From the report of the gun and the look of the wounds it inflicts, it seems he is using rifled slugs. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Franchi_PA8_-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Franchi PA8 12 gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A [[Franchi PA8]] with folding stock and high-capacity magazine tube on a gun rack.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Remington4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ unloads several 12 ga. shotgun shells into a horde of zombies.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== SIG-Sauer P229 ==&lt;br /&gt;
when the survivors are loading up at the gun store, a [[SIG-Sauer P229]] pistol is seen being taken off the counter.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:P229.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer P229 9mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Sig.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A [[SIG-Sauer P229]] is taken off the counter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Beretta 92FS ==&lt;br /&gt;
While the survivers are loading up at the gun store, a [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] is among one of the weapons to be taken. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta M92FS 9mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Beretta3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A [[Beretta 92 pistol series|Beretta 92FS]] and a [[Glock#Glock 36|Glock 36]] on a counter]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Glock 21 ==&lt;br /&gt;
After the survivors load up at the gun store, several [[Glock#Glock 21|Glock 21]]s are seen afterwards. CJ ([[Michael Kelly]]) hands a pair to a wounded Tucker ([[Boyd Banks]]) to fight off the zombies chasing them in the sewers while they make their way back to the mall, CJ also uses one of these pistols as his back up weapon, and uses it to to explode a propane tank and sacrifice himself at the docks so that the zombies can't reach the remaining survivors, and the last [[Glock#Glock 21|Glock 21]] we see is the one Michael ([[Jake Weber]]) uses to commit suicide after we learn he was bitten and infected while the other survivors sail away on Steve's ([[Ty Burrell]]) boat.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock21.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 21 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of CJ's [[Glock#Glock 21|Glock 21]] firing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-6.jpg |thumb|none|600px|CJ fires his [[Glock#Glock 21|Glock 21]] at a zombie in the stairwell.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ firing his [[Glock#Glock 21|Glock 21]] in his final moments.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ uses his [[Glock#Glock 21|Glock 21]] to hold off the zombies. Note: This shot shows the slide reads &amp;quot;.45 Auto&amp;quot;, making it a 21.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A magazine drops out of CJ's [[Glock#Glock 21|Glock]], &amp;quot;.45&amp;quot; can be seen engraved at the top of the magazine, this suggest the model of the gun is a Glock 21 chambered in .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Glock-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CJ uses his [[Glock#Glock 21|Glock 21]] to ignite a flare before shooting a propane tank, causing the bus he's in to explode. Triva note: Michael Kelly did actually ignite the flare by firing the blank gun close to it, something the crew did not expect to happen on the first take.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Revolver &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
While the survivors make their escape out of Milwaukee, Ana ([[Sarah Polley]]) uses a [[&amp;quot;Non Guns&amp;quot;|revolver &amp;quot;non gun&amp;quot;]], which temporarily replaces her Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66, to put a bullet into the head of a zombified Steve ([[Ty Burrell]]). This &amp;quot;Non gun&amp;quot; was used because Polley was close to Burrell when shooting this scene, and at such close range, blanks can be considered unsafe, so a &amp;quot;non gun&amp;quot; was used.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Snubnongun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Revolver &amp;quot;Non Gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD_Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ana fires the &amp;quot;non gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AnaFlash.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Promotional image with a good view of the &amp;quot;non gun&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=DVD Special Feature &amp;quot;Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed&amp;quot;=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen carrying around an [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2]] with a Flashlight attachment, but never fires it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:2MP5A2.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2 9x19mm with Surefire 628 dedicated forend weaponlight]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-MP5-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|&amp;quot;Anybody want to crash this dinner party, they're gonna get some copper coated candy for dessert&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DotD-Andy-MP5-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andy with his MP5A2.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Safari Arms .45  ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen carrying around a Safari Arms .45  with a Surefire 310R/610R flashlight attachment mounted on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-M1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Closeup of Andy's Safari Arms .45  before going to get the food sent to him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== SIG-Sauer SSG 3000 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In some scenes, Andy ([[Bruce Bohne]]) can be seen with what looks like a [[SIG-Sauer SSG 3000]] although he used an [[M40 sniper rifle|M40A1]] in the film, but it's possible that it could have been one of the many other guns in Andy's store.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SSG3000.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer SSG 3000 7.62x51mm NATO with Harris bipod]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-Sniper-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of Andy's SIG-Sauer SSG 3000.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DOTD-Andy-Sniper-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andy with his SIG-Sauer SSG 3000.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See Also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''George A. Romero's &amp;quot;Dead&amp;quot; Series'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Night of the Living Dead (1968)]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Dawn of the Dead (1978)]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Day of The Dead (1985)]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Land of the Dead]] (2005)''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Diary of the Dead]] (2007)''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Survival of the Dead]] (2010)''&lt;br /&gt;
'''Remakes'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Night of the Living Dead (1990)]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Day of the Dead (2008)]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Horror]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Post Apocalyptic]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Zombie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Canadian Produced/Filmed]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=True_Grit_(2010)&amp;diff=412354</id>
		<title>True Grit (2010)</title>
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		<updated>2011-04-25T02:49:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following guns were used in the film ''[[True Grit (2010)]]'':&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Truegrit10.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''True Grit'' (2010)]]&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=all&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Colt Dragoon==&lt;br /&gt;
Mattie Ross ([[Hailee Steinfeld]]) carries her father's [[Colt Dragoon]], as is described in Portis' book.  The gun used in the film is an actual percussion Dragoon, while the [[True Grit|1969 film]] used a cartridge-converted [[Colt Walker]].  It can be surmised that the Walker was used due to its even more imposing size in contrast to Mattie's small stature.  But the adherence to the source material in this version is much appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Colt1stDragoon-44Cal.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Original Colt Dragoon 1st Model - .44 Cal. Designed to address some of the problems encountered with the Colt Walker.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tg-dragoon.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mattie's Dragoon.  Note that it's already capped!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tg-dragoon-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mattie holding her Dragoon.  Still capped.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TrueGritMattieRossColtDragoon.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mattie aims her father's Dragoon at Tom Chaney ([[Josh Brolin]]) down by the creek in a promotional still.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Colt 1851 Navy==&lt;br /&gt;
Marshall Reuben J. &amp;quot;Rooster&amp;quot; Cogburn ([[Jeff Bridges]]) carries a pair of [[Colt 1851 Navy]] revolvers in holsters that fit over his saddle horn.  He refers to them in the movie as his &amp;quot;Navy sixes.&amp;quot;  He uses them both in his famous charge at the end.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:1851Navy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1851 Navy - .36 caliber.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tg-dragoon-rooster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rooster with one of his &amp;quot;Navy sixes.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tg-1851-rooster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rooster, reins in teeth, charges while dual-wielding 1851 Navys.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tg-1851-rooster-firing.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Firing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tg-1851-rooster-firing-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Winchester Model 1873==&lt;br /&gt;
Rooster Cogburn ([[Jeff Bridges]]) carries a [[Winchester Model 1873]] &amp;quot;Short&amp;quot; rifle as his long arm in the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Winchester1873short.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1873 &amp;quot;Short&amp;quot; rifle with octagonal barrel. - .44-40.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:tg-winchester-rooster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rooster takes aim with his Winchester 1873 &amp;quot;Short&amp;quot; rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TG 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rooster fires on Ned Pepper's gang.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TG 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|&amp;quot;Well, that didn't pan out.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Single Action Army==&lt;br /&gt;
Rooster also carries a [[Single Action Army]] of &amp;quot;Cavalry&amp;quot; length.  La Boeuf ([[Matt Damon]]) carries a [[Single Action Army]] with fancy carved ivory grips.&lt;br /&gt;
     &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtSAALongBarrel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army &amp;quot;Cavalry&amp;quot; model]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tg-saa-rooster-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rooster points his SAA.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tg-saa-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Different angle. Note, minus the cigarette.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tg-saa-labeouf.jpg|thumb|none|600px|La Boeuf's pretty ivory grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Winchester 1866 &amp;quot;Yellowboy&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Lucky&amp;quot; Ned Pepper ([[Barry Pepper]]) wields a [[Winchester 1866 &amp;quot;Yellow Boy&amp;quot;]] during the famous charge at the end.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Yellowboy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester 1866 &amp;quot;Yellow Boy&amp;quot; - .44RF.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:tg-yellowboy.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:tg-yellowboy-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Henry 1860==&lt;br /&gt;
True to the book, Tom Chaney ([[Josh Brolin]]) carries a [[Henry 1860|Henry rifle]]. As in the original novel a length of rope is tied to both ends as a makeshift sling.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Henry.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henry 1860 - .44RF]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:tg-henry-chaney.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chaney with the Henry slung over his shoulder.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tg-henry-2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The poster shows [[Josh Brolin]] as Chaney with the Henry.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] is carried by a passing Native American who fires it off screen to signal that they are being followed. One is also carried by one of the Parmalee brothers of &amp;quot;Lucky&amp;quot; Ned Pepper's ([[Barry Pepper]]) gang.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Colt1878.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1878 coach gun - 12 Gauge.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TrueGritFarrelBrotherShotgun.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Farrell Parmalee (Mike Watson) carries a shotgun holstered in his saddle sheath.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Sharps 1874 Cavalry Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
La Boeuf ([[Matt Damon]]) uses a [[Sharps|Sharps 1874 Cavalry Carbine]] throughout the film. Mattie is later seen using the Sharps. It is a weapon of uncanny power and precision. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sharps1874cavalarycarbine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sharps 1874 Cavalry Carbine - .45-70.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:tg-sharps-leboeuf.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Le Boeuf drawing a bead with his Sharps on &amp;quot;Lucky&amp;quot; Ned Pepper.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:tg-sharps-leboeuf-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Le Boeuf swinging his Sharps.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:tg-sharps-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Le Boeuf setting up with his Sharps as Mattie looks on.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Remington 1875==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Lucky&amp;quot; Ned Pepper ([[Barry Pepper]]) carries a [[Remington 1875]] revolver with custom four-leaf clover emblem grips.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rem1875.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 1875 - .45 Long Colt.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Western Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Coen Brothers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Steven Spielberg]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:From_Paris_With_Love&amp;diff=398740</id>
		<title>Talk:From Paris With Love</title>
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		<updated>2011-03-13T02:35:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: /* Taurus PT handgun */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Travolta look like a pimp.&lt;br /&gt;
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==M136 AT-4==&lt;br /&gt;
Isn't Travolta holding the M136 AT-4 backwards in the photo? I might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.. :) --Warejaws 21:14, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Fpwl3002.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== PSS? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I haven't seen the film. Whoever wrote about it in article, did you mean a Russian special pistol? Or Walther PPS maybe?&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pistol_Russian_PSS_in_7.62x41mm_SP-4_special_purpose_noiseless_cartridge.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Looked like a Walther PP to me. Doesn't look at all like a Walther PPS, or the pistol above. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 09:37, 8 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ok in response to your claim on the Beretta PX4 storm. I remember that Johnathan Rhyse Meyers clearly states that he had a 9mm in the trunk (referring to the PX4 storm )&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Steyr M-A1... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Steyr pictured is the original Steyr M9. The weapon used in the film is the M-A1 version in the picture below.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/steyr-m40a1.JPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
== Taurus PT handgun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't see the extension of the rear sight for adjustability, the giveaway of the PT99 model, so I'm switching it to the PT92. -- ZeoRanger5 00:17, 13 March 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=From_Paris_With_Love&amp;diff=398737</id>
		<title>From Paris With Love</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=From_Paris_With_Love&amp;diff=398737"/>
		<updated>2011-03-13T00:20:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: /* Taurus PT99 */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''WORK IN PROGRESS. . .'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''From Paris with Love'' is a 2010 action film from the director of [[Taken]] and starring [[John Travolta]] as an American spy and [[Jonathan Rhys Meyers]] as an employee at the American Embassy in Paris working together to stop a terrorist attack on the city.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL5.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''From Paris with Love'' (2010)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Handguns=&lt;br /&gt;
==Beretta Px4 Storm==&lt;br /&gt;
In an early scene in a parking garage, James Reece ([[Jonathan Rhys Meyers]]) opens a secret compartment in the trunk of his car to get a set of license plates, and the [[Beretta Px4 Storm]] is resting in the top tray.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Px4 Storm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta Px4 Storm - .45 ACP (particular caliber in film).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Paris_Beretta_Px4_Storm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Taurus PT92==&lt;br /&gt;
Charlie Wax ([[John Travolta]]) takes a [[Taurus PT92]] from a drug dealer when he goes to take out the Pakistani terrorists at their safe house. This PT92 has gold accents on the takedown lever, hammer, slide stop, safety, and the trigger. When it runs dry, he discards it.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Taurus_PT92_AFS.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Taurus PT92 AFS stainless steel (current production model with accessory rails) - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL_PT99.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wax takes the drug dealers Taurus and holds it on him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL4.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Wax fires the Taurus.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Fpwl3001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL_PT99_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wax fires the Taurus in the terrorist apartment.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==H&amp;amp;K MK 23==&lt;br /&gt;
Charlie Wax ([[John Travolta]]) uses a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch Mark 23]] with supressor, when he takes out a number of Chinese gangmembers while infiltrating the gang's base of operations.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:H&amp;amp;KMk23ModwKnightsSuppressor.jpg|thumb|none|450px|H&amp;amp;K Mk 23 - .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Paris_Mk23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wax fires the Mk 23.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL_MK23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wax fires the Mk 23 on a chinaman's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==SIG-Sauer X5 LW==&lt;br /&gt;
Wax is seen using a [[SIG-Sauer P220|SIG Sauer X5 LW]] as his main weapon throughout the film and calls it his &amp;quot;wife&amp;quot;. It is also worth mentioning that this pistol has a 19 round mag capacity. It is also seen very clearly in the end, when Wax and Reese play chess.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:X-Five-LW-detail.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SIG Sauer X5 LW - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:from_paris_with_love_65.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Charlie Wax holds one of the special cans in which he smuggled his &amp;quot;wife&amp;quot; into France.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL_X51.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wax assembles his X5.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL_X52.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wax about to chamber a round into his gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wax chambers a round into his SIG-Sauer X5 LW in a promotional image.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Fpwl3004.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wax does a mag change as he fights an assailant.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL_X5fire.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wax fires the gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Charliewaxgun1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Production still shows Wax holding his gun on Reese.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL_X56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wax holds his gun on Reese.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL_X55.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reese in turn holds his gun on Wax.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWLX5DE.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Wax's SIG-Sauer rests next to Reese's new Desert Eagle, while playing chess in the airport.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Steyr M9A1== &lt;br /&gt;
Used by security agents at the meeting at the end of the film, Reese takes one at the end he uses it.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SteyrM9.JPG‎|thumb|none|450px|Steyr M9 - 9x19mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPTL007.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Reece with the Steyr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL_Steyr.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reese holds the Steyr on the 'suspect'.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL_S.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reese raises the Steyr to shoot.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 386==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
James Reece ([[Jonathan Rhys Meyers]]) uses a seven-round S&amp;amp;W 386 in the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 386.jpg|300px|thumb|none|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 386 - .357 magnum]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Reece pulls his S&amp;amp;W in a promotional image.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWLS&amp;amp;W.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wax holds the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson up for Reece.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPTL005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reece with the Model 386 and a vase of cocaine in the chinese factory.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWLS&amp;amp;WStop.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reece holds the gun on a german.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL_SW386.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Beretta M93R==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Terrorist is seen briefly with a Beretta 93r during the take down of the terrorist cell&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Beretta M93.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Desert Eagle==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Towards the end of the movie Reece shows off to Wax his nickel plated [[Desert Eagle]] before a heated game of chess, showing that he has been promoted up to field agent and Wax's permanent partner.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DesertEagle50AE.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWLDesertE.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWLX5DE.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Reece's new Desert Eagle next to Wax's SIG]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Walther PPK== &lt;br /&gt;
This small pistol is used to injure Resse, it appears to be a Walther PPK, or another small pistol.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Colt 1911==&lt;br /&gt;
At the terrorist safehouse, Wax is warn not to look at some kids behind him, when he does some of them take out Colt 1911 variants to try to rob them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson 66==&lt;br /&gt;
The kid Wax is warn not to look at takes out a [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 66]] to try to rob them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Submachine guns=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Micro Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Charlie Wax can be seen with a [[Micro Uzi]] with a folding stock in the shootout at the mannequin warehouse.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MicroUziPistolStock.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Micro Uzi with folding stock - 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Fpwl1019.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWL3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Wax with a Micro Uzi.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
Wax also carries a [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K]] in addition to the micro-Uzi in the warehouse shootout.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5KA3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Fpwl1019.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:From_Paris_with_Love_MP5K.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
==Kimel AP-9==&lt;br /&gt;
One on the chinese thugs uses a [[Kimel AP-9]] during the shootout at the mannequin warehouse.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Mini Uzi==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by several chinese thugs throughout the film, especially during the shootout at the restaurant.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A3==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by the cops responding at the shootout at the terrorist safehouse, seen clearly when they open the door and it exploded, one of their MP5's hit the stairs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP7A1==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Seen between the M4, and the SIG-Sauer SG 552 inside Reese's trunk.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWLM4a.jpg|thumb|none|600px| In Between the M4 and the SIG.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Assault Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Unknown AK-47 Variant==&lt;br /&gt;
Several Pakistani Terrorists uses unknown AK-47 variants with the stock partially removed, Charlie Wax, picks one up and he fires it at several terrorists.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This appears to be a variant with the Type 4/Romanian wire stock folded to the side and an AK104 with wooden foregrips instead of the synthetic grips and a missing flash suppressor.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Galil SAR==&lt;br /&gt;
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==AKS 74U==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by some of the pakistani terrorists during the attack at their safehouse.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Valmet M62==&lt;br /&gt;
Seen in the terrorist safehouse, leaning against the wall.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
==M4A1 Carbine==&lt;br /&gt;
An [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|M4A1 carbine]] is seen in the armory behind Reese's car, then is seen under the AT4 in the back seat of the Audi when Wax is going to attempt to use the AT4 to destroy the car where a terrorist is.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M4A1 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWLM4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M4A1 5.56x45mm with M68 Aimpoint red dot scope and RIS foregrip]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWLM4a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==SIG-Sauer SG 552==&lt;br /&gt;
Seen above the M4 in Reese's trunk fitted with a flashlight, grip and a scope. Used by some chinese thugs during the shootout at the mannequin warehouse.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FPWLM4a.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Above the M4]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Colt Model 733==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by one chinese thug during the shootout at the mannequin shootout.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Other=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==M136 AT-4==&lt;br /&gt;
Wax fires an [[AT4]] at the terrorist car, he can't get a shot while on the car so he stops on a bridge and he shoots.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:AT-4Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M146 AT-4 - 84mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Fpwl3002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:From_paris_with_love.jpg|thumb|none|300px|From Paris with Love Teaser Poster. The grip appears to be a hybrid of a Walther P38 with the lanyard ring from a Beretta 92FS.  The slide appears to be from a S&amp;amp;W 59 series.) ]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Action Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Crime]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:French Produced/Filmed]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:From_Paris_With_Love&amp;diff=398735</id>
		<title>Talk:From Paris With Love</title>
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		<updated>2011-03-13T00:17:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Travolta look like a pimp.&lt;br /&gt;
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==M136 AT-4==&lt;br /&gt;
Isn't Travolta holding the M136 AT-4 backwards in the photo? I might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.. :) --Warejaws 21:14, 3 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Fpwl3002.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== PSS? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I haven't seen the film. Whoever wrote about it in article, did you mean a Russian special pistol? Or Walther PPS maybe?&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Pistol_Russian_PSS_in_7.62x41mm_SP-4_special_purpose_noiseless_cartridge.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Looked like a Walther PP to me. Doesn't look at all like a Walther PPS, or the pistol above. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 09:37, 8 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok in response to your claim on the Beretta PX4 storm. I remember that Johnathan Rhyse Meyers clearly states that he had a 9mm in the trunk (referring to the PX4 storm )&lt;br /&gt;
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== Steyr M-A1... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Steyr pictured is the original Steyr M9. The weapon used in the film is the M-A1 version in the picture below.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/steyr-m40a1.JPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Taurus PT handgun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't see the extension of the rear sight for adjustability, the giveaway of the PT99 model, so I'm switching it to the PT92. &lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Talk:Deathwatch</title>
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		<updated>2011-02-17T05:49:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: New page: Is it just me or are those Lee-Enfields the No.4 Mk.I model?--~~~~&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Is it just me or are those Lee-Enfields the No.4 Mk.I model?--[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 05:49, 17 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Red_Dawn_(1984)&amp;diff=374329</id>
		<title>Red Dawn (1984)</title>
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		<updated>2011-01-04T19:53:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Red Dawn'' (1984):'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnMoviePoster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Red Dawn'' (1984)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Handguns=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Colt Single Action Army==&lt;br /&gt;
A Colt [[Single Action Army]] revolver with ivory grips was used by Jed. The revolver used was a personal piece owned by director John Milius.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtSingleActionArmy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army &amp;quot;Artillery&amp;quot; model with 5.5&amp;quot; barrel .45 Long Colt]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnSAAIvory01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Matt Eckert hands over the Single Action Army to Jed Eckert]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnSAAkillA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Jed Eckert prepares to shoot Yuri ([[Sam Slovick]]) near the sign for the Arapaho National Park, with his Single Action Army]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnSAAWinterShootA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Because we LIVE HERE!!!!!!&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnSAASnowNightA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;You lose.&amp;quot;''  Jed Eckert announces his presence to Colonel Strelnikov, instead of just shooting him. This may be a manifestation of Jed's growing horror as to what kind of person he has become and what the war has done to him.  Previously he had no problems shooting a man in the back, but now he feels compelled to give the Colonel a chance to face his death, a decision that will cost Jed his life.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Walther PP Pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walther-PP-Post-War.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Post war Walther PP Pistol - 32 acp. .]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawn-Walther-PP2a.jpg ‎|thumb|none|500px|The Nicaraguan Captain ([[Judd Omen]]) holds a Walther PP Pistol as he hunts for Jed and Matt - .32 ACP.  He would later be blinded by Matt's RPG back blast.  The Walther PP was standing in for the Makarov, which was unavailable at the time of filming.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] (denote by it's tapered barrel) with Pachmayr grips is the 'survival pistol' for U.S.A.F. Colonel Andrew Tanner ([[Powers Boothe]]) but  it is taken away from him by Erica.  Interestingly enough, the Model 15 was the issued revolver to USAF Security Police from 1962-1985 so it is feasible for a USAF Colonel to wield one.  Combat pilots were given a wide latitude of the personal sidearm they could carry, with many opting for small revolvers, like the Airweight, or traditional semiauto pistols like the M1911.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 .38 Special]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnS&amp;amp;WMod19A.jpg|thumb|none|500px|U.S.A.F. Colonel Andrew Tanner sleeps with his Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 with combat grips at his side]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnS&amp;amp;WMod19 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Tanner's Model 15 is confiscated by Erica]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRGD-33a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Later, during the liberation raid on the re-education camp, Col. Tanner again has the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 in a shoulder holster.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
* An M1911A1 pistol is first seen in the &amp;quot;cold dead hands&amp;quot; of an American who resisted the Soviet invasion.  The pistol is pulled from the hand of the man and inspected by a Soviet Paratrooper who stuffs it behind his webbing belt.  The M1911A1 seen in this scene is a commercial blued version.  A parkerized M1911A1 is also used by Colonel Andrew Tanner during the final snow battle.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtMkIVSeries70.jpg‎ |thumb|none|350px|Colt 1911 Series 70 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnM1911A1DeadPrea.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|In the lead up to seeing the first M1911A1 we see this iconic bumper sticker - this saying was popular during the 1970s and 1980s and indicated most American gun owner's disdain for draconian gun control.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnM1911A1DeadA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|In one of the most famous (and morbid) twists on a pop culture phrase, a Soviet Paratrooper prepares to take a blued commercial M1911A1 from the dead hands of a Colorado resident who decided to fight back]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Later in the film, despite having his Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 revolver, Colonel Tanner ends up with a military M1911A1 pistol, seen during the snow battle.  It is assumed that he picked it up somewhere along the way, like the previous Soviet Paratrooper, since none of the occupying forces would be carrying that pistol.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnM1911.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Col. Tanner fires at one of the Soviet tankers in the snow battle with his M1911A1 Pistol. His version appears to be parkerized, thus a military version.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==CZ 75==&lt;br /&gt;
When one expects a [[Makarov PM]] or at least a mildly out of fashion [[Tokarev TT-33]] pistol, the leader of the Soviet Paratroopers in the attack on Calumet High School, motions to his troops, with a pre-B model [[CZ 75]] pistol. This is the original CZ 75 handgun, and not the later B models.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cz75.jpg|thumb|none|350px|&amp;quot;Pre-B&amp;quot; CZ 75 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnPistolA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soviet Paratrooper officers gestures with his CZ 75 pistol]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Tokarev TT-33 Pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the officers does have an actual Tokarev TT-33 Pistol (several viewings of the clip verified it, even though the actor whips it back and forth). He stands next to another paratrooper firing an RPG - with those Bright yellow and Blue rockets.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnTT33A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Soviet Airborne officer tells another paratrooper where to aim his RPG-7. The officer in the back holds up his Tokarev TT-33 pistol. This handgun was well obsolete by this time for front line troops in the USSR.]] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Submachine Gun=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Jatimatic Submachine Gun==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Jatimatic SMG]] was used by Colonel Strelnikov ([[William Smith]]) when he is hunting Matt and Jed at the end of the film. It was supposed to represent the Polish manufactured [[PM-63]] machine pistol as none were available in the country during the time of filming as this was the Cold War.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JatimaticSMALL.JPG|thumb|400px|none|Jatimatic 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnStrelnikovJatimatic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov actually wears the Jatimatic on a custom holster during his speech to the assembled Soviet and Cuban officers. It is a bit strange for the Colonel to wear his submachine gun on his hip when he is making a speech, however, always having the Jatimatic near him at all times, differentiated Col. Strelnikov from all other Soviet officers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnStrelnikovJatimatic 02.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov brandishes the Jatimatic when he hunts for Jed and Matt at the train station.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnJatimaticFiresTrainA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov fires his Jatimatic submachine gun at Matt Eckert, who is hiding on a freight train]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnJatimaticDeathA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov reacts to being shot by Jed Eckert's Single Action Army revolver while firing his Jatimatic submachine gun]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotguns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500 Field Gun==&lt;br /&gt;
The Shotgun that Robert takes from his father's Gas Station/General Store is initially a [[Mossberg 500 series shotgun#Mossberg 500|Mossberg 500]] with a field barrel (28&amp;quot;). Robert Morris ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) uses it in the first encounter with Soviet soldiers in the National park.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnRobertShotgunA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert prepares to fire his Mossberg 500 field shotgun]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Remington 870 Wingmaster ==&lt;br /&gt;
In a continuity break, the Mossberg 500 previously seen morphs into a [[Remington 870 Shotgun|Remington 870 Wingmaster]]. The Remington 870 Wingmaster is first seen when Robert is sawing down the long barrel to a short barreled shotgun.  The cut down 870 is used pretty much exclusively by Robert for the rest of the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg |thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun 12 Gauge]]‎ &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawn870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert cuts down the barrel of his Remington 870 Wingmaster.  ''Legal note: Viewers have often pondered as to the legality of actually sawing off a shotgun barrel for the film.  Since the actual Remington 870 firing gun from the armorers '''was already a short barreled shotgun''', installing a long barrel on it and then cutting it down (while being filmed by the cameras) is not an illegal act, since the gun is not being converted into a something that it is not already.'']]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnAKM&amp;amp;870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert fires his short 870 along with Matt and his AKM.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Rifles &amp;amp; Carbines=&lt;br /&gt;
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== Maadi ARM ==  &lt;br /&gt;
According to Long Mountain Outfitters (http://www.longmountain.com/movieguns/RedDawn), the [[AK-47#AKM|AKM]] rifles used in the movie were actually Egyptian Maadi MISR '''(imported into the US as the ARM)''' semi-auto rifles, some of the first semi-automatic Kalashnikov-type rifles ever imported into the United States (besides the Clayco AKM copies). 53 such rifles were used in the movie, 32 of which were converted to full-auto by Class 3 manufacturer Pearl Manufacturing specially for the film. These guns were later used in numerous other movies. Not to be confused with the post 1989 imported firearms called &amp;quot;MISR&amp;quot; which was modified to comply with the federal import ban.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RD-Maadi.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Maadi ARM (AKM) 7.62x39mm as used in ''Red Dawn'' (image from Long Mountain Outfitters)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|AKM 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnWOLVERINES.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aardvark ([[Doug Toby]]) utters the classic line &amp;quot;Wolverines!&amp;quot; while holding a Maadi ARM rifle converted to Full auto fire.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnAKM.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jed ([[Patrick Swayze]]) delivers some hot lead to a Russian tanker via an AKM.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fake AKS-74==&lt;br /&gt;
Fake [[AK-74#AKS-74|AKS-74]]s are used by Soviet paratroopers in the first attack on the school and Soviet Spetsnaz in the battle in the snow.  They are actually Maadi ARMs that were very cleverly mocked up with bakelite plastic magazines, skeletal stocks, and custom-made muzzle brakes that resembles that of the [[AK-74]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:aks74.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AKS-74 5.45x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeAK74Snow2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Spetnaz Snow troopers advance with faked AK-74 rifles made from Maadi ARMs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnAK74 03A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Several angles of the mocked up AK-74 with the custom Muzzle Brake and the non-folding Skeletal stock.  These rifles also use orange bakelite 7.62x39mm magazines. As a contrast, the standard AKMs in the film used metal magazines]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Valmet M78==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Valmet M78]] LMG was standing in for the Soviet [[RPK light machine gun|RPK]] since none were available in the country when this movie was filmed. The M78 LMG was used by Russian Paratroopers in the beginning of the movie and, and later by the Wolverines, most notably by Toni Mason  ([[Jennifer Grey]]).&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Valmet_M78_LMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Valmet M78 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnValmetM78 02.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|500px|Soviet Paratrooper fires the Valmet M78 LMG during the initial attack]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnValmetJenGrey.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Toni Mason fires her Valmet M78 LMG during an ambush.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnvalmet02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A Valmet M78 LMG can be seen on a table along with the bright yellow RPG rockets with bright blue tubes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnM78DrumA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Jed ([[Patrick Swayze]]) holds a Valmet M78 with a drum magazine while sitting in the snow]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnValmetM78 04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Jed carries the Valmet M78.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==FN FAL==&lt;br /&gt;
Cuban and Nicaraguan soldiers can be seen carrying [[FN FAL]] rifles as their main weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FN FAL 50 00.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN FAL 50.00 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFNFAL.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A quick but clear shot of the FAL rifle being brandished by the Cuban / Nicaraguan troops during an ambush.  Most of the time the soldiers held the rifles close to their bodies, making a clear view difficult]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger Mini 14 GB==&lt;br /&gt;
Briefly seen being handed out to freed prisoners at the re-education camp, and later seen obviously by an escaping 'political prisoner' during the night raid.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RugerAC556.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Ruger AC556 Carbine 5.56x45mm.  Full auto version of Ruger Mini 14 GB.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnRugerGBa.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Unidentified man with a Ruger Mini 14 GB runs out the gate]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M16A1 Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
A few [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1 rifles]] can be briefly seen being handed out to freed prisoners at the re-education camp, and later seen by another running 'political prisoner' during the night raid.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnM16A1A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Unidentified man with an M16A1 runs out the gate]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Marlin Model 336C==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Marlin Model 336|Marlin Model 336C]] lever action rifle was picked up from the store just after the invasion. Arturo &amp;quot;Aardvark&amp;quot; Mondragon ([[Doug Toby]]) fires a single shot from the back of a pickup truck at Russian troops, after an American UH-1 helicopter attacks the Soviets on the ground using rockets.  He also uses it in some of the ambushes later in the film. What is unusual is that the character Arturo Mondragon, nicknamed &amp;quot;Aardvark&amp;quot;, is never addressed or identified in the film, despite having such a major role. The only time the audience hears his name is when Erica ([[Lea Thompson]]) screams &amp;quot;Aardvark&amp;quot; when he dies during the snow battle with the T-72 tanks.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MarlinModel336C.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Marlin Model 336C .30-30 Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnMarlin336CFireA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Arturo &amp;quot;Aardvark&amp;quot; Mondragon fires the Marlin Model 336C from the pickup truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnMod1894 02.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|500px|Aardvark fires the Marlin Model 336C during an ambush.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Savage 110==&lt;br /&gt;
Jed picks up a [[Savage 110]] bolt action rifle from Mr. Morris' store at the beginning of the film. He uses it as a sniper rifle during some of the ambushes. The Savage is a likely candidate since the tapered barrel seen in the film more closely matches the stock barrels of the Savage 110 series, more than rifles such as the [[Remington 700]]. He also appears to have mounted a .22 rimfire scope on the rifle but the caliber of the rifle is unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnHuntingRifleA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert Morris ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) borrows Jed Eckert's Savage 110 rifle to hunt deer, while Matt Eckert carries the Marlin Model 336C.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnMod70.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Jed surveys the desolate battlefield with his Savage 110 Bolt Action Rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnSavageHorseback.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Jed says goodbye to Mr. &amp;amp; Mrs. Mason, the grandparents of Toni and Erica Mason, while holding his Savage 110 bolt action rifle on horseback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnMod70 02.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|500px|Jed on an ambush with his Savage 110 Bolt Action Rifle]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington Model 572 Fieldmaster==&lt;br /&gt;
Seen in the gun rack above Jed's Savage 110 bolt action rifle is a Remington Model 572 Fieldmaster pump action rifle. The 572 is a pump action 22 that will shoot 22 shorts, 22 long, or 22 long rifle cartridges. Ammunition is supplied by a tubular magazine under the barrel which holds 15-20 rounds depending on the caliber used. This ability to use all three cartridges is at variance with other pump action 22's which use only the long rifle.  The Remington 572 is a popular plinker and small game rifle which would be ideal as a survival weapon although it did not see additional use in the movie. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun==&lt;br /&gt;
At the time of filming there were no [[DShK heavy machine gun|DShK heavy machine guns]] available for use in movies, so the armorers mocked up DShKs from [[M60 machine gun#M60D Machine Gun|M60D machine gun]]s. Apparently the size difference between a 7.62mm gun and a .50 cal gun wasn't enough to distract people during the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M60d.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M60D machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDshsTankGun01A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The first time we see the DShK Heavy machine guns, mocked up out of M60D machine guns is when one is mounted on a faked T-72 Tank.  What is confusing is that there is an Airborne officer 'commanding' a Main battle tank, which would not be the case. Blue was the color of shoulder boards and collar tabs for Airborne soldiers, Black was the color for Armored Units.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDshsTankGun02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A better angle of the Fake DShK where we can see the M60 origins. The Airborne officer with the blue beret and goggles is [[Fred Rexer]], the former Green Beret (and personal friend of Director John Milius), who trained all of the young actors playing the Wolverines in guerilla  warfare.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDsHkTankerA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|When American prisoners are executed, including Jed and Matt's father, Tom Eckert ([[Harry Dean Stanton]]), we see Soviet Tankers firing their fake DShKs into the line of men]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDSHK-M60.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|500px|In the snow battle, we clearly see the fake DShKs mounted on the fake T-72 tanks that are made from M60Ds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDSHKHousea.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Erica ([[Lea Thompson]]) first uses a fake DShK during the ambush.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnLeaThompsonM60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In the ambush on the Spetnaz troops in the snow, Lea Thompson can clearly be seen firing a mocked up M60D, posing as a DShK.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHindDoorGunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|One of the fake DShK heavy machine guns is seen mounted as a door gun on the fake Hind helicopter gunships]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDshsBattleA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|During the final battle we get a good look at just how LONG and slender the faked DShK barrel is, when mounted on the M60D as a platform]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fake Goryunov SGM Machine gun==&lt;br /&gt;
Yet another Soviet-era machine gun that was mocked up from the venerable (and available) [[M60 machine gun]] is the [[Goryunov SG-43 Machine Gun|Goryunov SGM machine gun]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnSnowLMGNewA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) fires a Mocked up Goryunov SGM Machine Gun that was built up from an M60. The rate of fire was increased to around 1100 rpm versus the more standard 750 round per minute and the design of the gun was disguised by wrapping it in white cloth.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnM60 04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert's position during the snow battle has a fake Goryunov, mocked up from yet another M60 Machine Gun.  The white wrapping has fallen off, exposing the M60s' pistol grip lower receiver, whereas the SGM has spade grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning M2HB Heavy Machine Gun==&lt;br /&gt;
Seen briefly but never used is a knocked out [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB heavy machine gun]], mounted on a destroyed M42 Duster anti-aircraft vehicle.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnTankGun03a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Matt, Jed and Robert run past a destroyed M42 Duster with a Browning M2HB Heavy Machine gun, lying cockeyed off of it's mount, presumably inoperable, or else the Russians would not have left it out in the open]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==GE M134 Minigun==&lt;br /&gt;
An abandoned [[GE M134 Minigun]], possibly from a crashed vehicle/chopper can be seen on the abandoned battlefield. It is noteworthy that there seem to be many 'abandoned' weapons, from .50 cal machine guns to .30 cal machine guns, however, it must be assumed that these are damaged and inoperable, or else the Soviets would never just leave them for anyone to pick up.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|300px|GE M134 Minigun 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnTankGun2a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Visible to the right, on the ground is the GE M134 Minigun and the articulated belt feeding tray.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnMinigunWeb.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Just to the left of Matt Eckert is an abandoned GE M134 Minigun]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Man Portable Missile and Rocket/Grenade Launchers=&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fake RPG-7 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[RPG-7|Fake RPG-7]]s are used by Soviet and Communist Bloc soldiers, and later Matt ([[Charlie Sheen]]). The weapon itself is a fabricated prop, utilizing a vintage 1950s era RPG-2 as a base. A flared rear blast cone and a second 'fake' pistol grip was added as well as a fake PGO-7 scope that was fabricated out of plastic (it's a bit too large and wrongly shaped for the real PGO-7 scope). The rocket warhead is a plastic and rubber fabrication and not an RPG-2 rocket head. The fuse tip itself is the cap from a Crest toothpaste tube!&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|RPG-7 40mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPG7 02.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Matt aims his plastic and rubber mockup of an RPG-7 (though no RPG at the time had a bright yellow warhead with a Bright light blue rocket tube.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPG7 04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Closeup of the rubber rocket head of the fake RPG-7]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPGRobertA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Later in the film, the rocket heads are less bright yellow, now a more mustard color. Robert Morris ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) aims his RPG-7 at a Hind helicopter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
On another note, the rocket of the fake RPG-7 (like many other films that use rocket launchers) is a foam rubber fake when firing around actors.  Prior to the advent of CGI in films, they were fired with real Estes rocket motors and '''guided along wires''' to their targets. Below we see a frame of film where we can clearly see the wire that will guide the foam rubber rocket head to its intended target.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPG7Wire.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A view of the wire that guides the phony rocket head to its target.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fake SA-7 Grail ==&lt;br /&gt;
* A mocked up [[SA-7 Grail]] (built from metal tubing and plastic) is used by a Cuban soldier at an attacking American UH-1D Helicopter. The Mockup of the SA-7 is quite accurate. However, in the film a Cuban soldier, firing a heat seeking surface to air missile, cannot hit a slow moving UH-1 &amp;quot;Huey&amp;quot; (The post Vietnam &amp;quot;G&amp;quot; model with twin turbines). This is not likely unless he panic fires into a completely wrong direction.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:800px-SA-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SA-7 ''Grail'' aka Russian Strela-2 Surface to air missile 70mm. The name &amp;quot;Grail&amp;quot; was a NATO Designation for the weapon, &amp;quot;Strela&amp;quot; was the Russian designation.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnStrela01a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cuban Soldier readies to fire his mocked up SA-7 &amp;quot;Grail&amp;quot; Surface to Air Missile at attacking American UH1G Helicopters.  This is an excellent movie mockup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnSA7Grail.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|SA-7 Grail aka Russian Strela-2 Surface to air missile is fired at night in the downtown suburb of Calumet, CO. (actually a street in the small town of Las Vegas, New Mexico).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fake RGD-5 Hand Grenades==&lt;br /&gt;
In the film we see numerous fake Soviet [[RGD-5 hand grenade]]s, however, the paint scheme is off and the scale is too large.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rdg5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|RGD-5 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRGD5Roofa.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Robert drops &amp;quot;RGD-5&amp;quot; mocked up grenades during one of the ambushes, off of the roof onto the Cuban &amp;amp; Soviet Soldiers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRGDGrenadeA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Toni Mason ([[Jennifer Grey]]) has an RGD-5 grenade placed as a boobytrap under her dead body after the helicopter attack, only to be tripped by an enemy soldier.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fake RGD-33 Stick Grenade==&lt;br /&gt;
* Colonel Tanner uses a stick grenade to destroy one of the YAK-36 VTOL fighters parked near the re-education camp.  Though it is cool, it seems strange that the Soviet Navy would have VTOL fighters parked so close to an internment camp, unless they were using the Americans as human shields against long range missile strikes or aerial bombardment.  The stick grenade is a mockup, however it could be either a fake of the RGD-33 grenade or the RKG-3 H.E.A.T. (High Explosive Anti-Tank) grenade.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rgd-33russianfrag mp.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RGD-33 High-Explosive Fragmentation stick grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rocket Pods (on Fake Hind Gunship)==&lt;br /&gt;
Seen on the mocked up Hind Model A Helicopter Gunship, along with wing mounted hard points with air to ground missiles.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind03a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Fake Rocket pods are mounted on the wings of the Hind Gunship.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fake Mil Mi-24 &amp;quot;Hind&amp;quot; Gunship ==&lt;br /&gt;
The &amp;quot;Mil Mi-24 Hind&amp;quot;s are excellent mockups of Hind-As (painted with winter camo) built up from French''' Aerospatiale Pumas''' and were later used again in other movies such as Rambo 2 and 3.  The version depicted was the earliest incarnation of the Hind, the Model-A with the blunt angular nose.  The Hind-A was also seen in the film [[Firefox]] however those were 1/12th scale Radio Control flying models.  For the film [[Red Dawn]], three Pumas were modified (and all seen on film) and all had a fake Hind-A 'nose' sections built with darked tinted windows that slipped over the front end of the real Puma helicopter.  (If you looked closely, you could see the real nose of the Puma 'underneath' the Hind Nose section through the tinted windows.  This limited pilot vision and also restricted motion - quick turns were not possible lest the fake nose front end be ripped off the helicopter.  Later incarnations of the same modified Puma helicopter removed the extended Hind Model A Nose sections but kept the fake wings and rockets pods (as these were sturdy modifications and didn't adversely affect the aerodynamics of the Helicopter.)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind01a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Two of the three faux &amp;quot;Hind&amp;quot; helicopters chase the Wolverines in the beginning of the assault.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|One part of the PUMA helicopter that could not be modified was the bulging pods for the rear landing gear/wheels.  The real HINDs are smooth sided, with retractable landing gear, to make them more sleek and aerodynamic in attack maneuvers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind05a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Seen on the nose is a mockup of the '''single barreled 12.7mm heavy machine gun''' that was standard on the Hind-A helicopter.  Only the later models of the helicopter upgraded to 12.7 mm YakB gatling gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind06a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|In real life, use of the Hind-As are a bit anachronistic, since the ubiquitous '''Hind-D''' (the version we see today with the twin tandem nose canopies) replaced all previous Hind gunships in active service beginning in 1974.  The Hind-As had design problems which forced their replacement by the Model D and had been replaced in most front line units by 1977.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In several shots, we can see the actual nose assembly of the original PUMA helicopter underneath the tinted glass windows of the extended &amp;quot;faux&amp;quot; nose.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHindUndera.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Visible is the original nose of the Puma Helicopter under the tinted glass.  The filmmakers just mounted the fake nose on top of the real helicopter nose.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== M42 &amp;quot;Duster&amp;quot; 40mm Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun ==&lt;br /&gt;
An M42 &amp;quot;Duster&amp;quot; that has been knocked out of action is prominent in the ghost battlefield sequence.  Of course what is noticeably lacking are Main Battle tanks like M1 Abrahms or Infantry Fighting vehicles, from the plethora of destroyed vehicles on the battlefield.  The M42 &amp;quot;Duster&amp;quot; was a light tank chassis that was outfitted with twin 40mm AA guns and was used by ground troops in Vietnam and retired from regular Army service in 1972.  The M42 was then only found as a Corp Level asset in National Guard units until it was fully retired in 1988.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnM42DusterA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jed, Robert and Matt walk past a knocked out M42 &amp;quot;Duster&amp;quot; - 40mm Main armament with a Browning M2HB mounted on the back.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fake Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun ==&lt;br /&gt;
A Fake Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled Anti Aircraft Gun was built on an American M48 Tank Chassis by Veluzet Armored Vehicles, out of Newhall, California.  This ZSU-23 replica was also used in the John Milius directed film ''[[Flight of the Intruder]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnZSUNightAttacka.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The faux Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled AA gun seen in the film [[Red Dawn]] during the night attack.  Unlike the film [[Flight of the Intruder]] (which mounted a real quad 50 comprising Browning M2HBs), this ZSU-23 only has fake mockup AA guns, so it is never seen firing in the movie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnZSUChassisBare.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''Behind the Scenes:''' Inside the Veluzat Tank shop, the M48 Tank Chassis has a steel frame welded into place that will eventually become the Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled AA gun seen in the film [[Red Dawn]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawn ZSUparked.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''Behind the Scenes:''' The faux Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled AA gun seen in the film [[Red Dawn]] is parked as mechanics do some last minute testing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fake Soviet T-72 Main Battle Tank ==&lt;br /&gt;
The ubiquitous M48 Chassis was also used to build up the Fake T-72 tanks from the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnT72SnowCamoA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A beautifully painted Faux T-72 Tank rolls up to the snow battle.  The 120mm Main gun is an aluminum and fiberglass tube that mounted a black powder charge in front to simulate firing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnT72TurretPainted.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''Behind the Scenes:''' The fiberglass turret of the faux Soviet T-72 built for and seen in the film [[Red Dawn]] has been painted with a different paint scheme.  In all the Fake T-72s impersonated multiple tanks with different paint schemes, most seen is the green urban, the field camo and the winter camo patterns.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Morris's Market ==&lt;br /&gt;
As many viewers remember, there was a large rack of sporting/hunting long guns in Mister Morris's Gas Station/General Store and Mister Morris hands out food, guns and ammunition to the boys and tells them to leave and &amp;quot;don't look back&amp;quot;.  However, none of the long guns in Mister Morris's gun rack can be identified due to the dark lighting in the shot.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnMorrisMarketA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A view of the dark gun rack in Mister Morris's Market.  It is extremely difficult to identify the weapons in the rack due to the dark shadowy lighting in the scene.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inaccurate Captioning on the DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
During the planning of the attack on the re-education camp, Col. Tanner mystifies most of the Wolverines with his military jargon.  Apparently the jargon is unknown to the people doing the captioning of the DVD as well.  He refers to grazing fire at a '''defilade''' (using the verb as a noun to refer to an area where the Soviets have created to protect the position from ''enfilading'' fire).  Erica Mason ([[Lea Thompson]]) responds with &amp;quot;''Devolay''?&amp;quot;.  The Closed captions on the DVD incorrectly quotes Tanner as saying '''&amp;quot;duffle-A&amp;quot;''' which makes no sense.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawn-Duffle-Aa.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Caption of this scene incorrectly quotes Tanner as saying &amp;quot;duffle-A&amp;quot; when in fact he says &amp;quot;Defilade&amp;quot; (which is a real military term).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Action Movie]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>ZeoRanger5</name></author>
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		<title>Red Dawn (1984)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ZeoRanger5: /* Mossberg 500 Field Gun */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Red Dawn'' (1984):'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnMoviePoster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Red Dawn'' (1984)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Handguns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Colt Single Action Army==&lt;br /&gt;
A Colt [[Single Action Army]] revolver with ivory grips was used by Jed. The revolver used was a personal piece owned by director John Milius.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtSingleActionArmy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army &amp;quot;Artillery&amp;quot; model with 5.5&amp;quot; barrel .45 Long Colt]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnSAAIvory01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Matt Eckert hands over the Single Action Army to Jed Eckert]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnSAAkillA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Jed Eckert prepares to shoot Yuri ([[Sam Slovick]]) near the sign for the Arapaho National Park, with his Single Action Army]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnSAAWinterShootA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;Because we LIVE HERE!!!!!!&amp;quot;'']]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnSAASnowNightA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''&amp;quot;You lose.&amp;quot;''  Jed Eckert announces his presence to Colonel Strelnikov, instead of just shooting him. This may be a manifestation of Jed's growing horror as to what kind of person he has become and what the war has done to him.  Previously he had no problems shooting a man in the back, but now he feels compelled to give the Colonel a chance to face his death, a decision that will cost Jed his life.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Walther PP Pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Walther-PP-Post-War.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Post war Walther PP Pistol - 32 acp. .]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawn-Walther-PP2a.jpg ‎|thumb|none|500px|The Nicaraguan Captain ([[Judd Omen]]) holds a Walther PP Pistol as he hunts for Jed and Matt - .32 ACP.  He would later be blinded by Matt's RPG back blast.  The Walther PP was standing in for the Makarov, which was unavailable at the time of filming.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15]] (denote by it's tapered barrel) with Pachmayr grips is the 'survival pistol' for U.S.A.F. Colonel Andrew Tanner ([[Powers Boothe]]) but  it is taken away from him by Erica.  Interestingly enough, the Model 15 was the issued revolver to USAF Security Police from 1962-1985 so it is feasible for a USAF Colonel to wield one.  Combat pilots were given a wide latitude of the personal sidearm they could carry, with many opting for small revolvers, like the Airweight, or traditional semiauto pistols like the M1911.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 .38 Special]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnS&amp;amp;WMod19A.jpg|thumb|none|500px|U.S.A.F. Colonel Andrew Tanner sleeps with his Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 with combat grips at his side]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnS&amp;amp;WMod19 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Tanner's Model 15 is confiscated by Erica]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRGD-33a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Later, during the liberation raid on the re-education camp, Col. Tanner again has the Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 in a shoulder holster.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M1911A1==&lt;br /&gt;
* An M1911A1 pistol is first seen in the &amp;quot;cold dead hands&amp;quot; of an American who resisted the Soviet invasion.  The pistol is pulled from the hand of the man and inspected by a Soviet Paratrooper who stuffs it behind his webbing belt.  The M1911A1 seen in this scene is a commercial blued version.  A parkerized M1911A1 is also used by Colonel Andrew Tanner during the final snow battle.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ColtMkIVSeries70.jpg‎ |thumb|none|350px|Colt 1911 Series 70 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnM1911A1DeadPrea.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|In the lead up to seeing the first M1911A1 we see this iconic bumper sticker - this saying was popular during the 1970s and 1980s and indicated most American gun owner's disdain for draconian gun control.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnM1911A1DeadA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|In one of the most famous (and morbid) twists on a pop culture phrase, a Soviet Paratrooper prepares to take a blued commercial M1911A1 from the dead hands of a Colorado resident who decided to fight back]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Later in the film, despite having his Smith &amp;amp; Wesson Model 15 revolver, Colonel Tanner ends up with a military M1911A1 pistol, seen during the snow battle.  It is assumed that he picked it up somewhere along the way, like the previous Soviet Paratrooper, since none of the occupying forces would be carrying that pistol.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnM1911.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Col. Tanner fires at one of the Soviet tankers in the snow battle with his M1911A1 Pistol. His version appears to be parkerized, thus a military version.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==CZ 75==&lt;br /&gt;
When one expects a [[Makarov PM]] or at least a mildly out of fashion [[Tokarev TT-33]] pistol, the leader of the Soviet Paratroopers in the attack on Calumet High School, motions to his troops, with a pre-B model [[CZ 75]] pistol. This is the original CZ 75 handgun, and not the later B models.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cz75.jpg|thumb|none|350px|&amp;quot;Pre-B&amp;quot; CZ 75 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnPistolA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soviet Paratrooper officers gestures with his CZ 75 pistol]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tokarev TT-33 Pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the officers does have an actual Tokarev TT-33 Pistol (several viewings of the clip verified it, even though the actor whips it back and forth). He stands next to another paratrooper firing an RPG - with those Bright yellow and Blue rockets.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnTT33A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Soviet Airborne officer tells another paratrooper where to aim his RPG-7. The officer in the back holds up his Tokarev TT-33 pistol. This handgun was well obsolete by this time for front line troops in the USSR.]] &lt;br /&gt;
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=Submachine Gun=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jatimatic Submachine Gun==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Jatimatic SMG]] was used by Colonel Strelnikov ([[William Smith]]) when he is hunting Matt and Jed at the end of the film. It was supposed to represent the Polish manufactured [[PM-63]] machine pistol as none were available in the country during the time of filming as this was the Cold War.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JatimaticSMALL.JPG|thumb|400px|none|Jatimatic 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnStrelnikovJatimatic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov actually wears the Jatimatic on a custom holster during his speech to the assembled Soviet and Cuban officers. It is a bit strange for the Colonel to wear his submachine gun on his hip when he is making a speech, however, always having the Jatimatic near him at all times, differentiated Col. Strelnikov from all other Soviet officers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnStrelnikovJatimatic 02.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov brandishes the Jatimatic when he hunts for Jed and Matt at the train station.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnJatimaticFiresTrainA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov fires his Jatimatic submachine gun at Matt Eckert, who is hiding on a freight train]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnJatimaticDeathA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov reacts to being shot by Jed Eckert's Single Action Army revolver while firing his Jatimatic submachine gun]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Shotguns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mossberg 500 Field Gun==&lt;br /&gt;
The Shotgun that Robert takes from his father's Gas Station/General Store is initially a [[Mossberg 500 series shotgun#Mossberg 500|Mossberg 500]] with a field barrel (28&amp;quot;). Robert Morris ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) uses it in the first encounter with Soviet soldiers in the National park.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnRobertShotgunA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert Morris readies to fire his Mossberg 500 field shotgun]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Remington 870 Wingmaster ==&lt;br /&gt;
In a continuity break, the Mossberg 500 previously seen morphs into a [[Remington 870 Shotgun|Remington 870 Wingmaster]]. The Remington 870 Wingmaster is first seen when Robert Teasdale is sawing down the long barrel to a short barreled shotgun.  The cut down 870 is used pretty much exclusively by Robert Teasdale for the rest of the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg |thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun 12 Gauge]]‎ &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawn870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert Teasdale cuts down the barrel of his Remington 870 Wingmaster.  ''Legal note: Viewers have often pondered as to the legality of actually sawing off a shotgun barrel for the film.  Since the actual Remington 870 firing gun from the armorers '''was already a short barreled shotgun''', installing a long barrel on it and then cutting it down (while being filmed by the cameras) is not an illegal act, since the gun is not being converted into a something that it is not already.'']]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnAKM&amp;amp;870.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert fires his short 870 along with Matt and his AKM.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Rifles &amp;amp; Carbines=&lt;br /&gt;
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== Maadi ARM ==  &lt;br /&gt;
According to Long Mountain Outfitters (http://www.longmountain.com/movieguns/RedDawn), the [[AK-47#AKM|AKM]] rifles used in the movie were actually Egyptian Maadi MISR '''(imported into the US as the ARM)''' semi-auto rifles, some of the first semi-automatic Kalashnikov-type rifles ever imported into the United States (besides the Clayco AKM copies). 53 such rifles were used in the movie, 32 of which were converted to full-auto by Class 3 manufacturer Pearl Manufacturing specially for the film. These guns were later used in numerous other movies. Not to be confused with the post 1989 imported firearms called &amp;quot;MISR&amp;quot; which was modified to comply with the federal import ban.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RD-Maadi.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Maadi ARM (AKM) 7.62x39mm as used in ''Red Dawn'' (image from Long Mountain Outfitters)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|AKM 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnWOLVERINES.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Aardvark ([[Doug Toby]]) utters the classic line &amp;quot;Wolverines!&amp;quot; while holding a Maadi ARM rifle converted to Full auto fire.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnAKM.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jed ([[Patrick Swayze]]) delivers some hot lead to a Russian tanker via an AKM.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fake AKS-74==&lt;br /&gt;
Fake [[AK-74#AKS-74|AKS-74]]s are used by Soviet paratroopers in the first attack on the school and Soviet Spetsnaz in the battle in the snow.  They are actually Maadi ARMs that were very cleverly mocked up with bakelite plastic magazines, skeletal stocks, and custom-made muzzle brakes that resembles that of the [[AK-74]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:aks74.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AKS-74 5.45x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeAK74Snow2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Spetnaz Snow troopers advance with faked AK-74 rifles made from Maadi ARMs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnAK74 03A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Several angles of the mocked up AK-74 with the custom Muzzle Brake and the non-folding Skeletal stock.  These rifles also use orange bakelite 7.62x39mm magazines. As a contrast, the standard AKMs in the film used metal magazines]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Valmet M78==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Valmet M78]] LMG was standing in for the Soviet [[RPK light machine gun|RPK]] since none were available in the country when this movie was filmed. The M78 LMG was used by Russian Paratroopers in the beginning of the movie and, and later by the Wolverines, most notably by Toni Mason  ([[Jennifer Grey]]).&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Valmet_M78_LMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Valmet M78 7.62x39mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnValmetM78 02.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|500px|Soviet Paratrooper fires the Valmet M78 LMG during the initial attack]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnValmetJenGrey.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Toni Mason fires her Valmet M78 LMG during an ambush.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnvalmet02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A Valmet M78 LMG can be seen on a table along with the bright yellow RPG rockets with bright blue tubes.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnM78DrumA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Jed ([[Patrick Swayze]]) holds a Valmet M78 with a drum magazine while sitting in the snow]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnValmetM78 04.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Jed carries the Valmet M78.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==FN FAL==&lt;br /&gt;
Cuban and Nicaraguan soldiers can be seen carrying [[FN FAL]] rifles as their main weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FN FAL 50 00.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN FAL 50.00 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFNFAL.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A quick but clear shot of the FAL rifle being brandished by the Cuban / Nicaraguan troops during an ambush.  Most of the time the soldiers held the rifles close to their bodies, making a clear view difficult]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ruger Mini 14 GB==&lt;br /&gt;
Briefly seen being handed out to freed prisoners at the re-education camp, and later seen obviously by an escaping 'political prisoner' during the night raid.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RugerAC556.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Ruger AC556 Carbine 5.56x45mm.  Full auto version of Ruger Mini 14 GB.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnRugerGBa.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Unidentified man with a Ruger Mini 14 GB runs out the gate]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==M16A1 Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
A few [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1 rifles]] can be briefly seen being handed out to freed prisoners at the re-education camp, and later seen by another running 'political prisoner' during the night raid.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnM16A1A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Unidentified man with an M16A1 runs out the gate]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Marlin Model 336C==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Marlin Model 336|Marlin Model 336C]] lever action rifle was picked up from the store just after the invasion. Arturo &amp;quot;Aardvark&amp;quot; Mondragon ([[Doug Toby]]) fires a single shot from the back of a pickup truck at Russian troops, after an American UH-1 helicopter attacks the Soviets on the ground using rockets.  He also uses it in some of the ambushes later in the film. What is unusual is that the character Arturo Mondragon, nicknamed &amp;quot;Aardvark&amp;quot;, is never addressed or identified in the film, despite having such a major role. The only time the audience hears his name is when Erica ([[Lea Thompson]]) screams &amp;quot;Aardvark&amp;quot; when he dies during the snow battle with the T-72 tanks.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MarlinModel336C.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Marlin Model 336C .30-30 Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnMarlin336CFireA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Arturo &amp;quot;Aardvark&amp;quot; Mondragon fires the Marlin Model 336C from the pickup truck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnMod1894 02.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|500px|Aardvark fires the Marlin Model 336C during an ambush.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Savage 110==&lt;br /&gt;
Jed picks up a [[Savage 110]] bolt action rifle from Mr. Morris' store at the beginning of the film. He uses it as a sniper rifle during some of the ambushes. The Savage is a likely candidate since the tapered barrel seen in the film more closely matches the stock barrels of the Savage 110 series, more than rifles such as the [[Remington 700]]. He also appears to have mounted a .22 rimfire scope on the rifle but the caliber of the rifle is unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnHuntingRifleA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert Teasdale ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) borrows Jed Eckert's Savage 110 rifle to hunt deer, while Matt Eckert carries the Marlin Model 336C.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnMod70.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Jed surveys the desolate battlefield with his Savage 110 Bolt Action Rifle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnSavageHorseback.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Jed says goodbye to Mr. &amp;amp; Mrs. Mason, the grandparents of Toni and Erica Mason, while holding his Savage 110 bolt action rifle on horseback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnMod70 02.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|500px|Jed on an ambush with his Savage 110 Bolt Action Rifle]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remington Model 572 Fieldmaster==&lt;br /&gt;
Seen in the gun rack above Jed's Savage 110 bolt action rifle is a Remington Model 572 Fieldmaster pump action rifle. The 572 is a pump action 22 that will shoot 22 shorts, 22 long, or 22 long rifle cartridges. Ammunition is supplied by a tubular magazine under the barrel which holds 15-20 rounds depending on the caliber used. This ability to use all three cartridges is at variance with other pump action 22's which use only the long rifle.  The Remington 572 is a popular plinker and small game rifle which would be ideal as a survival weapon although it did not see additional use in the movie. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington-572-right.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Remington-572-left.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnGunRack01A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnGunRak07a.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Machine Guns=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun==&lt;br /&gt;
At the time of filming there were no [[DShK heavy machine gun|DShK heavy machine guns]] available for use in movies, so the armorers mocked up DShKs from [[M60 machine gun#M60D Machine Gun|M60D machine gun]]s. Apparently the size difference between a 7.62mm gun and a .50 cal gun wasn't enough to distract people during the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M60d.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M60D machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDshsTankGun01A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The first time we see the DShK Heavy machine guns, mocked up out of M60D machine guns is when one is mounted on a faked T-72 Tank.  What is confusing is that there is an Airborne officer 'commanding' a Main battle tank, which would not be the case. Blue was the color of shoulder boards and collar tabs for Airborne soldiers, Black was the color for Armored Units.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDshsTankGun02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A better angle of the Fake DShK where we can see the M60 origins. The Airborne officer with the blue beret and goggles is [[Fred Rexer]], the former Green Beret (and personal friend of Director John Milius), who trained all of the young actors playing the Wolverines in guerilla  warfare.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDsHkTankerA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|When American prisoners are executed, including Jed and Matt's father, Tom Eckert ([[Harry Dean Stanton]]), we see Soviet Tankers firing their fake DShKs into the line of men]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDSHK-M60.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|500px|In the snow battle, we clearly see the fake DShKs mounted on the fake T-72 tanks that are made from M60Ds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDSHKHousea.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Erica ([[Lea Thompson]]) first uses a fake DShK during the ambush.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnLeaThompsonM60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In the ambush on the Spetnaz troops in the snow, Lea Thompson can clearly be seen firing a mocked up M60D, posing as a DShK.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHindDoorGunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|One of the fake DShK heavy machine guns is seen mounted as a door gun on the fake Hind helicopter gunships]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDshsBattleA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|During the final battle we get a good look at just how LONG and slender the faked DShK barrel is, when mounted on the M60D as a platform]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fake Goryunov SGM Machine gun==&lt;br /&gt;
Yet another Soviet-era machine gun that was mocked up from the venerable (and available) [[M60 machine gun]] is the [[Goryunov SG-43 Machine Gun|Goryunov SGM machine gun]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnSnowLMGNewA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert Teasdale ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) fires a Mocked up Goryunov SGM Machine Gun that was built up from an M60. The rate of fire was increased to around 1100 rpm versus the more standard 750 round per minute and the design of the gun was disguised by wrapping it in white cloth.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnM60 04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert's position during the snow battle has a fake Goryunov, mocked up from yet another M60 Machine Gun.  The white wrapping has fallen off, exposing the M60s' pistol grip lower receiver, whereas the SGM has spade grips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Browning M2HB Heavy Machine Gun==&lt;br /&gt;
Seen briefly but never used is a knocked out [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB heavy machine gun]], mounted on a destroyed M42 Duster anti-aircraft vehicle.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnTankGun03a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Matt, Jed and Robert run past a destroyed M42 Duster with a Browning M2HB Heavy Machine gun, lying cockeyed off of it's mount, presumably inoperable, or else the Russians would not have left it out in the open]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Mini-Gun=&lt;br /&gt;
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==GE M134 Minigun==&lt;br /&gt;
An abandoned [[GE M134 Minigun]], possibly from a crashed vehicle/chopper can be seen on the abandoned battlefield. It is noteworthy that there seem to be many 'abandoned' weapons, from .50 cal machine guns to .30 cal machine guns, however, it must be assumed that these are damaged and inoperable, or else the Soviets would never just leave them for anyone to pick up.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|300px|GE M134 Minigun 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnTankGun2a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Visible to the right, on the ground is the GE M134 Minigun and the articulated belt feeding tray.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnMinigunWeb.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Just to the left of Matt Eckert is an abandoned GE M134 Minigun]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Man Portable Missile and Rocket/Grenade Launchers=&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fake RPG-7 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[RPG-7|Fake RPG-7]]s are used by Soviet and Communist Bloc soldiers, and later Matt ([[Charlie Sheen]]). The weapon itself is a fabricated prop, utilizing a vintage 1950s era RPG-2 as a base. A flared rear blast cone and a second 'fake' pistol grip was added as well as a fake PGO-7 scope that was fabricated out of plastic (it's a bit too large and wrongly shaped for the real PGO-7 scope). The rocket warhead is a plastic and rubber fabrication and not an RPG-2 rocket head. The fuse tip itself is the cap from a Crest toothpaste tube!&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|RPG-7 40mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPG7 02.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Matt aims his plastic and rubber mockup of an RPG-7 (though no RPG at the time had a bright yellow warhead with a Bright light blue rocket tube.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPG7 04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Closeup of the rubber rocket head of the fake RPG-7]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPGRobertA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Later in the film, the rocket heads are less bright yellow, now a more mustard color. Robert Morris ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) aims his RPG-7 at a Hind helicopter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
On another note, the rocket of the fake RPG-7 (like many other films that use rocket launchers) is a foam rubber fake when firing around actors.  Prior to the advent of CGI in films, they were fired with real Estes rocket motors and '''guided along wires''' to their targets. Below we see a frame of film where we can clearly see the wire that will guide the foam rubber rocket head to its intended target.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPG7Wire.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A view of the wire that guides the phony rocket head to its target.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fake SA-7 Grail ==&lt;br /&gt;
* A mocked up [[SA-7 Grail]] (built from metal tubing and plastic) is used by a Cuban soldier at an attacking American UH-1D Helicopter. The Mockup of the SA-7 is quite accurate. However, in the film a Cuban soldier, firing a heat seeking surface to air missile, cannot hit a slow moving UH-1 &amp;quot;Huey&amp;quot; (The post Vietnam &amp;quot;G&amp;quot; model with twin turbines). This is not likely unless he panic fires into a completely wrong direction.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:800px-SA-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SA-7 ''Grail'' aka Russian Strela-2 Surface to air missile 70mm. The name &amp;quot;Grail&amp;quot; was a NATO Designation for the weapon, &amp;quot;Strela&amp;quot; was the Russian designation.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnStrela01a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cuban Soldier readies to fire his mocked up SA-7 &amp;quot;Grail&amp;quot; Surface to Air Missile at attacking American UH1G Helicopters.  This is an excellent movie mockup.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnSA7Grail.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|SA-7 Grail aka Russian Strela-2 Surface to air missile is fired at night in the downtown suburb of Calumet, CO. (actually a street in the small town of Las Vegas, New Mexico).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fake RGD-5 Hand Grenades==&lt;br /&gt;
In the film we see numerous fake Soviet [[RGD-5 hand grenade]]s, however, the paint scheme is off and the scale is too large.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rdg5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|RGD-5 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRGD5Roofa.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Robert drops &amp;quot;RGD-5&amp;quot; mocked up grenades during one of the ambushes, off of the roof onto the Cuban &amp;amp; Soviet Soldiers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRGDGrenadeA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Toni Mason ([[Jennifer Grey]]) has an RGD-5 grenade placed as a boobytrap under her dead body after the helicopter attack, only to be tripped by an enemy soldier.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fake RGD-33 Stick Grenade==&lt;br /&gt;
* Colonel Tanner uses a stick grenade to destroy one of the YAK-36 VTOL fighters parked near the re-education camp.  Though it is cool, it seems strange that the Soviet Navy would have VTOL fighters parked so close to an internment camp, unless they were using the Americans as human shields against long range missile strikes or aerial bombardment.  The stick grenade is a mockup, however it could be either a fake of the RGD-33 grenade or the RKG-3 H.E.A.T. (High Explosive Anti-Tank) grenade.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rgd-33russianfrag mp.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RGD-33 High-Explosive Fragmentation stick grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Rocket Pods=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rocket Pods (on Fake Hind Gunship)==&lt;br /&gt;
Seen on the mocked up Hind Model A Helicopter Gunship, along with wing mounted hard points with air to ground missiles.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind03a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Fake Rocket pods are mounted on the wings of the Hind Gunship.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fake Mil Mi-24 &amp;quot;Hind&amp;quot; Gunship ==&lt;br /&gt;
The &amp;quot;Mil Mi-24 Hind&amp;quot;s are excellent mockups of Hind-As (painted with winter camo) built up from French''' Aerospatiale Pumas''' and were later used again in other movies such as Rambo 2 and 3.  The version depicted was the earliest incarnation of the Hind, the Model-A with the blunt angular nose.  The Hind-A was also seen in the film [[Firefox]] however those were 1/12th scale Radio Control flying models.  For the film [[Red Dawn]], three Pumas were modified (and all seen on film) and all had a fake Hind-A 'nose' sections built with darked tinted windows that slipped over the front end of the real Puma helicopter.  (If you looked closely, you could see the real nose of the Puma 'underneath' the Hind Nose section through the tinted windows.  This limited pilot vision and also restricted motion - quick turns were not possible lest the fake nose front end be ripped off the helicopter.  Later incarnations of the same modified Puma helicopter removed the extended Hind Model A Nose sections but kept the fake wings and rockets pods (as these were sturdy modifications and didn't adversely affect the aerodynamics of the Helicopter.)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind01a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Two of the three faux &amp;quot;Hind&amp;quot; helicopters chase the Wolverines in the beginning of the assault.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|One part of the PUMA helicopter that could not be modified was the bulging pods for the rear landing gear/wheels.  The real HINDs are smooth sided, with retractable landing gear, to make them more sleek and aerodynamic in attack maneuvers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind05a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Seen on the nose is a mockup of the '''single barreled 12.7mm heavy machine gun''' that was standard on the Hind-A helicopter.  Only the later models of the helicopter upgraded to 12.7 mm YakB gatling gun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind06a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|In real life, use of the Hind-As are a bit anachronistic, since the ubiquitous '''Hind-D''' (the version we see today with the twin tandem nose canopies) replaced all previous Hind gunships in active service beginning in 1974.  The Hind-As had design problems which forced their replacement by the Model D and had been replaced in most front line units by 1977.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In several shots, we can see the actual nose assembly of the original PUMA helicopter underneath the tinted glass windows of the extended &amp;quot;faux&amp;quot; nose.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHindUndera.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Visible is the original nose of the Puma Helicopter under the tinted glass.  The filmmakers just mounted the fake nose on top of the real helicopter nose.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== M42 &amp;quot;Duster&amp;quot; 40mm Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun ==&lt;br /&gt;
An M42 &amp;quot;Duster&amp;quot; that has been knocked out of action is prominent in the ghost battlefield sequence.  Of course what is noticeably lacking are Main Battle tanks like M1 Abrahms or Infantry Fighting vehicles, from the plethora of destroyed vehicles on the battlefield.  The M42 &amp;quot;Duster&amp;quot; was a light tank chassis that was outfitted with twin 40mm AA guns and was used by ground troops in Vietnam and retired from regular Army service in 1972.  The M42 was then only found as a Corp Level asset in National Guard units until it was fully retired in 1988.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnM42DusterA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jed, Robert and Matt walk past a knocked out M42 &amp;quot;Duster&amp;quot; - 40mm Main armament with a Browning M2HB mounted on the back.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fake Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun ==&lt;br /&gt;
A Fake Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled Anti Aircraft Gun was built on an American M48 Tank Chassis by Veluzet Armored Vehicles, out of Newhall, California.  This ZSU-23 replica was also used in the John Milius directed film ''[[Flight of the Intruder]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnZSUNightAttacka.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The faux Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled AA gun seen in the film [[Red Dawn]] during the night attack.  Unlike the film [[Flight of the Intruder]] (which mounted a real quad 50 comprising Browning M2HBs), this ZSU-23 only has fake mockup AA guns, so it is never seen firing in the movie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnZSUChassisBare.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''Behind the Scenes:''' Inside the Veluzat Tank shop, the M48 Tank Chassis has a steel frame welded into place that will eventually become the Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled AA gun seen in the film [[Red Dawn]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawn ZSUparked.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''Behind the Scenes:''' The faux Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled AA gun seen in the film [[Red Dawn]] is parked as mechanics do some last minute testing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fake Soviet T-72 Main Battle Tank ==&lt;br /&gt;
The ubiquitous M48 Chassis was also used to build up the Fake T-72 tanks from the film.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnT72SnowCamoA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A beautifully painted Faux T-72 Tank rolls up to the snow battle.  The 120mm Main gun is an aluminum and fiberglass tube that mounted a black powder charge in front to simulate firing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnT72TurretPainted.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''Behind the Scenes:''' The fiberglass turret of the faux Soviet T-72 built for and seen in the film [[Red Dawn]] has been painted with a different paint scheme.  In all the Fake T-72s impersonated multiple tanks with different paint schemes, most seen is the green urban, the field camo and the winter camo patterns.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Trivia=&lt;br /&gt;
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== Morris's Market ==&lt;br /&gt;
As many viewers remember, there was a large rack of sporting/hunting long guns in Mister Morris's Gas Station/General Store and Mister Morris hands out food, guns and ammunition to the boys and tells them to leave and &amp;quot;don't look back&amp;quot;.  However, none of the long guns in Mister Morris's gun rack can be identified due to the dark lighting in the shot.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawnMorrisMarketA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A view of the dark gun rack in Mister Morris's Market.  It is extremely difficult to identify the weapons in the rack due to the dark shadowy lighting in the scene.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inaccurate Captioning on the DVD ==&lt;br /&gt;
During the planning of the attack on the re-education camp, Col. Tanner mystifies most of the Wolverines with his military jargon.  Apparently the jargon is unknown to the people doing the captioning of the DVD as well.  He refers to grazing fire at a '''defilade''' (using the verb as a noun to refer to an area where the Soviets have created to protect the position from ''enfilading'' fire).  Erica Mason ([[Lea Thompson]]) responds with &amp;quot;''Devolay''?&amp;quot;.  The Closed captions on the DVD incorrectly quotes Tanner as saying '''&amp;quot;duffle-A&amp;quot;''' which makes no sense.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:RedDawn-Duffle-Aa.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Caption of this scene incorrectly quotes Tanner as saying &amp;quot;duffle-A&amp;quot; when in fact he says &amp;quot;Defilade&amp;quot; (which is a real military term).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;WTH? Did a 3 year old write this page?&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well the median age of the average IMFDB user is getting lower all the time ;)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:16, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I think it would be more advisable to wait until a teaser or official set photos emerge before creating this page. After all, the release date is more than nine months away. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 22:07, 26 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I fixed the page's spelling and grammar issues.&lt;br /&gt;
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==AK as seen in promo pic==&lt;br /&gt;
Is that an AKM with black synthetic furniture?  Should I take an inventory Movie AKM and put black AK74 style furniture on it and photograph it for this page?    Or is the gun something else?  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:50, 26 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Please do.-protoAuthor 01:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it may be something else. It may be something in the AK 100 series or some other varient. We need a better look at the weapons in question.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 01:12, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Can American armorers actually get AK-103s?  I didn't think they could without difficulty.  If I had to guess, the weapons in this movie are probably AKMs with synthetic furniture and AK-74 flash hiders.  There was another picture posted on the forum which showed the guns more clearly, and they had the ribbed receiver covers (AK-103s come from the factory with smooth).  Plus, why would armorers go to the trouble of getting AK-103s?  Wouldn't it be more cost-effective to just vismod AKMs? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:27, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It's more cost effective to modify existing (and registered pre-86) AKMs with AK-103 parts kits ;)  Doesn't mean *I* will do it, because it's a lot of work for no current reason, but I can't see a reason why others would not be able to do so.  It does NOT look like a 103 but then I have not seen better pics from the production. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:11, 27 January 2010 (UTC)  (correction) Title II manufacturers (Like CW) can build their own from the numerous AK receivers being built in this country and complete it with Parts kits.  Again, I have no definitive indications of what these are, but there are tons of new types of AKs being imported (now only European style guns), which  is a BIG change from the 1980s when there were only Chinese guns. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:13, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Here are a few pictures of the rifles for ID(more than likely, these are non-firing props since the muzzle brakes and front sight appear to be filled in): &lt;br /&gt;
:::::Those are DEFINITELY resin/rubber castings of AKMS with synthetic furniture and AK74 style muzzle brakes.  BTW: those young Asian American Airsofter Extras who look kinda young compared to the hardened look of real PLA soldiers (hahaha) are wearing fake PLA CAMO that looks REALLY GOOD! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::http://img163.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=81311432742685146627835.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
::::Also, an AKMSU with an interesting forearm:&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I think those are probably AKMs (most likely Maadis) dressed up as AK-103s.  The receivers look pretty worn...almost as though they've been in the armory's inventory for 25+ years.  Although what MPM mentioned (built-up guns from parts kits) is also possible, the AK-103 resembles the AKM so closely externally (besides the furniture and flash hider) that vismoding the older gun seems like the easiest thing to do.  I'll have to ask around and see if anyone knows who supplied the weapons for this show. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:21, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The Gas block on these guns look a lot like the AK74 style, which is common on a lot of the recent AK rifles being sold in this country now (a lot were built on parts kits from Europe).  The straight 90 degree down gas block style of the AK74 is seen on all manner of AKs nowadays.  As a note, it's a pain in the butt to remove a gas block on an existing AK only to replace it with another style of gas block for a movie, and I doubt that the production will pay for the hassle, so they may be Title II converted European style AKS (with American receivers). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:44, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Are you sure your eye didn't slip?  Those guns do not look to me like they have the AK-74-style gas block.  And yes, some of them are definitely rubber castings of the live-fire weapons, which is I guess what we'd expect for a production with dozens/hundreds of extras who carry weapons. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:29, 28 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::AKMSU forearm looks like it might be a KAC AK RAS. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 15:51, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: That's Quad-rail from KCI [http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7889/2655074.jpg]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: This is cool, I hadn't heard about this remake until just now. One thing I noticed was that all these extras have good grip and trigger finger control... Except that guy with the carbine with the odd rails (all AKs with rails look weird to me), he's got his finger VERY on the trigger with with other hand OVER THE MUZZLE. Good job... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fan Photos==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a few photos that show some of the weapons seen during the film's production, but they are all unofficial pictures taken by extras/bystanders on the film set. AFAIK there are no official set pictures that have been released, so would there be any problems if I post them?--[[User:Markit|Markit]] 02:48, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Those are still unauthorized images.  Any person can take pictures on sets.  I had my camera confiscated from the set of [[Back to the Future Part II|BTTF2]], because there was a lock down on ANY unauthorized images that had not been cleared through the studio.  So in answer to your question: I would say not.  Also undercover fan pics tend to suck in quality.  But posting links to them to aid us in identifying guns is okay.  But I don't want ANY movie studio lawyer seeing IMFDB as a place which holds the image on their server (which is what happens when you upload a pic). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:14, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Okay, parts of this movie were filmed in Royal Oak, MI, and I still have lots of college friends who live there. Lots of them took photos. Theoretically, let's say they were filming on their street, right in front of their house. If they stood on their front lawn, or just opened a window and snapped a photo, is it still an unauthorized image? It's one thing if you go to a set, but what happens when a set comes to you? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 23:50, 7 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::In that case, Image:Red dawn photos 008.jpg in the main page should be removed because it is an unauthorized picture. I will also post some links on the talk page if anyone is interested. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 03:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Red dawn photos 008.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Production still of extras posing as PLAGF soldiers armed with an unknown AKM variant.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Airsoft rifles guys, they just didn't bother to use the correct 5.45mm magazines.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_91&amp;amp;products_id=1258&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Oh, great, not the old &amp;quot;movies always use airsoft guns and CGI muzzle flashes&amp;quot; rumors again... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:13, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Who is the anonymous poster who wrote that?  Also movies have and DO use Airsoft for non firing scenes, but I saw shaky, blurry, crappy bootleg video of a shootout and they were DEFINITELY rocking and rolling with blanks during one sequence.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I believe I've seen that footage, too. Those definitely aren't airsoft. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:55, 27 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::I wish they kill these occupants in most brutal ways. Like burning, decapitating, riding over with a tank etc.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::WTF? User:178.92.110.168, you been drinking too much coffee or popping pills or something? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Is this movie low budget or something? Because I can't find any trailers for it other than fake crap on youtube using PLA parade footage and GI Joe footage.&lt;br /&gt;
I can see why they'd use AK-103s though, the airsoft or dummy QBZ-95s are very expensive. Gotta give them credit, at least they used more asians than Last Airbender.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Are asians expensive too nowadays?&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually these guys are wearing the latest PLA digital camo, that itself cannot be cheap, and they obviously done their research.  Don't know why they got AKs...maybe it's suppose to represent Type-03 or something.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 21:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:They've AKs because Norinco guns, like the PLA's standard service rifle the QBZ-95, can't be imported into the United States. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 21:32, 28 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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To the guy who posted below the pic, you can't put an airsoft 7.62 magazine in an airsoft 5.45 AK any more than you could with a real one. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Regarding some other pics of the vehicles that are supposedly going to be in the movie, are they at least based on Chinese vehicles or just US Army vehicles with the Chinese flag painted on them?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:BigD|BigD]]  18:09, 7 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Hummer H1's could be a stand-in for the Brave Warrior, which is basically a knockoff of the H1.  Try wrapping that around your head --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 22:22, 7 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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With airsoft, you can stick the 7.62 mags in a 5.45 gun and vice versa. looks od, but still works fine--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 23:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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China has its own version of the HMMWV, look up the Dongfeng EQ2050-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 03:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if the knowledgeable American's gonna know that the EQ2050 is a bona-fied LICENSED clone instead of bashing it as a knock-off? --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 02:29, 9 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Remaking a great movie is a bad idea ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is Hollywood making remakes of all the good movies? What's next? A remake of &amp;quot;Apocalypse Now&amp;quot;? - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 04:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's debatable whether Red Dawn is really a great movie, so a better question might be why a movie that is so reflective of a particular era and its cultural landscape was remade when perceptions and fears about the world have changed. Regardless, I am still interested in seeing how this film turns out, if it ever gets a theatrical release. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 05:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed. It seems like 80's movie are always difficult to remake. Movies like Ferris Bueller, Teen Wolf, and Weird Science simply cannot work now. The same applies to horror movies.&lt;br /&gt;
I'm gonna go see this movie, but my expectations ain't too high.&lt;br /&gt;
R.I.P Patrick Swayze.&lt;br /&gt;
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I just know when a movie is going to suck and this is not looking good. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 17:22, 8 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course it'll suck, the only trailers I've seen are mockups and fan photos. Was this even mentioned at this year's Comic-Con?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Movie Release ==&lt;br /&gt;
The bad news, if you can call it that, is that the release of the flick may be delayed indefinitely.  Since it seems MGM is in the midst of possible bankruptcy proceedings and since they are the parent studio of the makers of the movie it may be some time before it sees the light of day.  If at all.  --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:22, 17 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.themovieinsider.com/m4854/red-dawn/&lt;br /&gt;
:There are two shots of armored vehicles on that site. One looks like a fake M1 Abrams, and the other is some Red Chinese armored car. The M1 looks like it might be the same fake M1 from Courage Under Fire, or at least is also based on the Centurion. (Notice the number of wheels, and the gap between the second and third wheels.) As for the armored car, I have no idea, although the turret looks really fake. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 23:54, 17 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Abrams is definitly a fake. However, it looks more like it is based on a Cheiftain chassis, mainly due to the curvature of the front hull/glassis plate, the placement of the six roadwheels, and the height of it. The armoured car...your guess is as good as mine, because unlike the Abrams, this isn't a former peice of Brit kit reconditioned.&lt;br /&gt;
:Now that you mention it, yes, I agree. The Chieftain has the same gap between the second and third wheels, and the Chieftain turret is flatter as well, which would make it easier to adapt into an Abrams. But I had always heard that Chieftains were a pain in the butt mechanically, and you'd think productions would prefer something that was easier and thus cheaper to maintain over something that looked more right for the part.  --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 18:48, 18 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::IIRC, the &amp;quot;Abrams&amp;quot; is actually a modified Centurion tank, one of several ex-Australian examples which were originally created for use in ''[[Courage Under Fire]]''. The armored car is made by General Purpose Vehicles of Michigan (who usually build armored vehicles for law enforcement use) and is only lightly modified with the addition of a turret. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 23:16, 18 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Man, I would have thought you guys would have been cheesed more that the movie may not see the light of day any time soon!!! --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:00, 18 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have to admit I'm not terribly excited by this movie. I'm against remakes in general, I really can't understand how you can remake Red Dawn, considering the Cold War has been over for about twenty years now. Back in the eighties, the Soviets were waist deep in Afghanistan, we were slinging Olympic boycotts back and forth, and the president actually referred to them as the Evil Empire. To the kids growing up back then, the Soviets WERE evil. They oppressed the freedom loving mujahadeen of Afghanistan, they shot down our airliners, they teamed up with the Iron Sheik against Hulk Hogan, they held our POWS in Vietnam, and dammit, they killed Apollo Creed (IT WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE AN EXHIBITION! THROW THE GODDAMN TOWEL!) And that was just the eighties. The Berlin Airlift, Korea, Vietnam, Prague Spring, the Cuban missile crisis, Khrushchev promising to bury us, duck and cover drills, those were just chapters in our history books. Now, I'm the last man to defend Red China (the fact that I still refer to them as Red China should tell you something.) But let's face it, what's the worst thing they've done to us? Cheat in women's gymnastics? Sell us lead-laden toys? Give the Houston Rockets false hope? They downed one of our planes, sure, but the only person who actually died was one of their guys. Tiananmen square was twenty years ago, and they've been oppressing Tibet since before anyone here was born. They need us and we need them. Like it or not, we are economically dependent on them, and they are on us. As much as I'd like to see American troops roll into Beijing and tear down that red flag, war makes absolutely no sense, from an economic, political, or security standpoint. The only ally that they're threatening is Taiwan, and we're such a good ally, we won't even recognize them as a country. In summary, the perceived threat of a Soviet invasion was real, as Soviet aggression was real. Our government and the media, backed with forty years of history, fed our hysteria over the Soviet Union. There's no perceived threat from Red China. That same government and media are bending over backwards to accommodate the reds. They might as well remade Red Dawn with us being invaded by Belgium. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 23:38, 18 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Coincidentally, I ran across this article today. Apparently I'm not the only one who feels this way. Twenty years after the Cold War ended, Russians are still the boogeymen! [http://kotaku.com/5616543/americans-get-russia-fighting-the-us] --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 14:52, 19 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Um...tell us how you really feel?!?--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I would've been excited if the remake was still set in the 80's, and all the politics were the same. You can update the cast, crew, film technology, but you can't update the politics. Another film that can't be remade today: The Day After. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 00:39, 19 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::You know, to be fair, the last Jack Ryan book by Tom Clancy did have China as the main military villain with a credible nuclear threat. Granted the possibility of a Chinese/Russian alliance is slim to none but the original movie was a stretch in and of itself --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:44, 19 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Well, Clancy also had a novel that had us going to war with Japan, so yeah. The original was a stretch, but the threat of Central America falling to the reds was very real back then, or at least we were made to believe it was. Whether is was truly realistic or not is not relevant, it was our believe that it was realistic that counted, and it's that culture of fear and antagonism that can't be reproduced by replacing the Soviets with Red China. Not only would a remake set in the 80's work better, I think it would be more popular. There's a lot of 80's nostalgia. I think people would rather relive the good old days rather than face the fact that the Red Chinese are a power to be reckoned with.  --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 01:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The problem with that though is the Chinese were not as big a threat in the 80s as they are today.  Their military was less advanced then, as was their economy, and we still had our massive Cold War arsenel. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::No, I meant using the Soviet Union of the eighties rather than the Red Chinese of today. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 03:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Oh, nevermind. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well having been a teenager in the 80's (born 1968) and enlisting the first time in 86 (when the Soviets seemed like or were still a very real threat to the U.S.A.) I have to admit that I miss the old U.S.S.R. Hell I and many others were actually happy in the late 70's and early 80's when the U.S. and Red China began to have a thaw in their relationship. Gave us a nice counterweight to the Soviets. Anybody remember that? sure there was that whole nuclear armageddon hangin over our heads, but now I realize that there was more clarity in the world. Now it's just a fucking muddled mess. Oh well. I'm going to watch my Chinese made television. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 20:27, 12 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Movie Release Update ==&lt;br /&gt;
Was just checking out a web site for movie trailers and the release date for this is now listed as April 2011.  --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 14:46, 11 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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So the title should be changed to 2011 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:33, 11 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Agreed.  Even the IMDB page now refers to it as Red Dawn (2011).  --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 06:02, 12 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== First Cast Photo Released ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Red_Dawn_2011.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The new Wolverines in a promotional image from Red Dawn (2011).]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I wish I had that kind of trigger discipline in high school.  On other notes, it looks like they're using the generic airsoft AKs that the Chinese extras are using, and who the hell is that third female? --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 18:32, 4 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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Is it me or does it look like the 1911 McKenna is using is the engraved one that is used in Supernatural and Machette? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 01:34, 4 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==hitmen in movies==&lt;br /&gt;
in this version it look like there assanations are the run in and shoot the place to pieces. is the original he tried to make it look like an an accident first&lt;br /&gt;
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==THIS MOVIE==&lt;br /&gt;
is gonna be total crap, I promise. --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 18:17, 13 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Now because I'm so nice, I've added screencaps of the Knives and Cars used in the film. Since I know little about either, feel free to add your own knowledge and such. With the cars, I only added the ones used by main characters, random cars passing by weren't a big deal. -GM&lt;br /&gt;
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'''The following knifes were used in the film:'''&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Cutlery of ''[[The Punisher (2004)]]''==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Butterfly Knife===&lt;br /&gt;
Castle takes a butterfly knife off of Joan's ex-boyfriend and uses it through out the film, notably when fighting The Russian, who turns it against him and stabs him in the shoulder. [[Thomas Jane]] was taught how to do tricks with the knife, and cleary was taught well, as he flawlessly spins the knife in the film several times.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherButterflyknife-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|&amp;quot;You shouldn't play with knives.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherButterflyknife-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle grabs for the butterfly knife when fighting The Russian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Punisherbutterflyknife-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle stabs the Russian with the knife, which appears to inflict no pain on him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherButterflyknife-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Russian pulls the knife from his shoulder and it is cleary feeding into the hilt, pushed a spring.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherButterflyknife-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Russian stabs Castle with the knife.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Kitchen Knife===&lt;br /&gt;
Some simple kitchens knives are used in the film. Castle Sr. uses one to stab a hitter in the back and Joan is seen holding one when her ex-boyfriend is trying to get into her apartment.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Punisherkitchenknife-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle Sr. prepares to stab with the kitchen knife.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Punisherkitchenknife-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle Sr. stabs the hitter with the kitchen knife.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherKitchenknife-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joan holds a kitchen knife in her apartment.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Spring-loaded Launching Stiletto===&lt;br /&gt;
When Harry Heck totals Castle's car, he pulls a Stiletto Knife from his ankle, which Heck remarks, &amp;quot;You are one dumb sonavabitch, bringin' a knife to a gunfight,&amp;quot; to which Castle responds by launching the blade from the knife into Heck's throat. While ballistic knives do exist in real life and work somewhat well, they have much stronger springs to accurately launch the blade, while the spring strength in a modified stilleto would not likely work as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Punisherlaunchingstilleto-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle aims the blade launching Stiletto.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Punisherlaunchingstilleto-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle aims his blade launching Stiletto.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Punisherlaunchingstilleto-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle fires the blade at Heck.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Punisherlaunchingstilleto-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The knife hits Heck in the throat.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Emerson Combat Karambit===&lt;br /&gt;
Castle uses a Emerson Karambit tiger-claw style folding blade with a satin finish to kill a thug in Saint's club.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherTigerClaw-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle readies the Karambit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Spyderco Harpy===&lt;br /&gt;
A half serrated Spyderco Harpy folder is used by Lincoln and turned against him by Castle.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks too big to be a Harpy. It is probably a Civilian, or perhaps a different Spyderco Hawkbill style knife.&lt;br /&gt;
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It's a Civilian. It's fully serrated as well. (most likely it would do considerably more damage against thin cheek flesh.)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherTigerClaw-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln struggles to stop Castle from using his Spyderco Harpy against him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Paper Cutter===&lt;br /&gt;
Caslte unhooks a Paper Cutter blade from its base and uses it to kill one of the thugs guarding the apartment.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Punisherpapercutter-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle examines the paper cutter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherPapercutter-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle with the paper cutter blade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Punisherpapercutter-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle swings the blade into the thug's head. Here you can clearly see how graphic the scene originally was going to be before the MPAA got their hands on it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Punisherpapercutter-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The paper cutter blade gets stuck in the thug's head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Stilleto Knife===&lt;br /&gt;
Howard Saint pulls out a Stilleto knife as he tells Quintin Glass how Jim Bowie used to throw a knife to the ground and fight someone if they declared he was cheating. Accusing Glass of cheating with his wife (which Castle had tricked Saint into believing), he stabs Glass to death with the knife.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherStilletoknife-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Saint pops open the Stilleto Knife.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherStilletoknife-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Saint throws the Stilleto down.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherStilletoknife-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Saint stabs Glass with his Stilleto.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Punisherstilletoknife-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Saint stabs Glass multiple times with his Stilleto.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cold Steel Warhead===&lt;br /&gt;
Castle uses two Cold Steel Warhead knives to kill Lincoln, first pinning his hand to his hip, than thrusting a knife through his chin into his brain.&lt;br /&gt;
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These arn't really cold steel knives it's this one brand that I really want to know.&lt;br /&gt;
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They could be Strider Knives, they look similar to the MT models, heres a link. [http://www.striderknives.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&amp;amp;flypage=shop.flypage&amp;amp;product_id=42&amp;amp;category_id=1&amp;amp;manufacturer_id=0&amp;amp;option=com_virtuemart&amp;amp;Itemid=26] Gunner313&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Punisherknife-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle pins Lincoln's hand to his hip with an Cold Steel Warhead knife.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherKnife-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle shoves his second Warhead blade into Lincoln's chin into his brain. It is a neat gag how the knife is actually seen through his mouth.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Punisherknife-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lincoln falls dead.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Vehicles of [[The Punisher (2004)]]==&lt;br /&gt;
'''The following cars were used in ''The Punisher (2004)'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Note: These are cars important to the story. No random passing cars.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Pontiac GTO===&lt;br /&gt;
Castle uses a Pontiac GTO as his vehicle. The liscense plate reads &amp;quot;Year One&amp;quot;, the company who built the car. It does ''not'' mean any reference to the fact the film is based on the &amp;quot;Year One&amp;quot; comic.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherGTO-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherGTO-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherGTO-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherGTO-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherGTO-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note &amp;quot;Year One&amp;quot; liscense plate.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherGTO-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherGTO-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note how the guy driving is wearing a safety harness.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherGTO-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherGTO-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Plymouth Road Runner===&lt;br /&gt;
Harry Heck's car is a 1968 Plymouth Road Runner. Most easily distinguished from the front end and the nonfunctional &amp;quot;hood scoops&amp;quot; on the hood. Though this could've been a redressed Belvedere, Satellite, Coronet, or Superbee, which along with the Road Runner and GTX were essentially the same vehicle.&lt;br /&gt;
 not a Dart[[Image:PunisherHHDodgedart-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heck smashes into Castle's GTO with his Road Runner.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherHHDodgedart-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Heck pulls up to Castle's totaled GTO.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherHHdodgedart-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Castle takes Heck's car.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Ford F-150 1981 Pickup===&lt;br /&gt;
John Saint drives a Red Ford F-150 1981 Pickup with Dante and Spoon riding in the back and Glass in the passenger's side. He uses it to run over Will and Maria Castle.&lt;br /&gt;
:Just two years older than my own Ford F150 I had up until a couple years ago. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 09:39, 26 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherFordPickup-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherFordPickup-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherFordPickup-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherFordPickup-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherFordPickup-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Triumph Daytona 500===&lt;br /&gt;
Castle hops on a Triumph in pursuit of the men chasing his wife and son.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherCastleBike-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherCastleBike-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stunt Double.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherCastleBike-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Chevy Blazer===&lt;br /&gt;
Maria Castle's Car.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherMCastle'scar-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherMCastle'scar-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===1998 Corvette===&lt;br /&gt;
Mike Duka's car.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherDuka'sCar.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Reproduction Ford GT40===&lt;br /&gt;
A rubbish looking GT40 knockoff, barely resembles a REAL GT40, but passes as one to the casual viewer.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherShelbyCobra-duka'scar.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pictured right.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Shelby Cobra===&lt;br /&gt;
John Saint's Car.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherShelbyCobra-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherShelbyCobra-duka'scar.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pictured left.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Jaguar XK8===&lt;br /&gt;
Olivia Saint's car.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherLSaint'scar-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherLSaint'scar-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherLSaint'scar-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherLSaint'scar-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bently Arnage===&lt;br /&gt;
Howard Saint's car.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherHSaint'scar.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Jaguar XJR===&lt;br /&gt;
Quinten Glass' Car&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherQGlass'car-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Ford Mustang===&lt;br /&gt;
Jimmy Weeks' car is a 2004 Ford Mustang, seen in the extended cut only.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherWeek'scar-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherWeek'scar-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Taxi Cab===&lt;br /&gt;
Dave is driven home from the hospital in a typical Taxi Cab. Looks to be a Chevy Lumina.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PunisherTaxi.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Stevens 311==&lt;br /&gt;
Recent observation seems to suggest that the double barrels are not Stevens 311s. Looking at the lower part of the receiver right were it meets the foregrip, there should be large indentations as seen in the Stevens picture, yet they aren't present.&lt;br /&gt;
:Re-read the article, they have been determined to be Spanish Eibar copies, which don't feature the indentations. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
Alright then, you think the notion in the paragraph is enough, or should the heading be changed to reflect that? [[User-RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, how were they determined to be that? Could they possibly be the 311H?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Specials ==&lt;br /&gt;
Where's the Special footage from? I got the extended DVD, it doesn't have that.-protoAuthor&lt;br /&gt;
:The special footage comes from the original theatrical release, actually. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 21:46, 2 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alias Same 1911 Custom ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Alias &amp;quot;Legacy&amp;quot; episode Michael Vartan uses a 1911 customized like the Punisher's pistols. The year of the episode is the same of the film: 2004. Maybe there is a connection... [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Totally just thought about this ==&lt;br /&gt;
:Because this picture is of Frank and his Delta buddies in the Gulf in '91, he would technically be holding a M727 or M723. God i have random thoughts. -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::Story-wise, yes. But production-wise, it could probably be the same M4 he used to shoot Saints and Sinners up, with the M203 removed, carry handle replaced, and fabric wrapping to cover the rail system. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 21:51, 2 February 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yea thats what i ment. They do get 10 points for having the guys in that pic wear the ugly and oudated 8-color chocolate chip pattern. -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== 1911 Action ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was watching this movie the other day and noticed every time Castle racks his 1911's slide while not in combat it looks like he flips a switch on the front of the slide where it meets the compensator. Any ideas on what he's actually doing? If someone needs a screencap for clarification I can upload one. -Mandaloin [[Special:Contributions/174.18.152.170|174.18.152.170]] 07:05, 25 February 2010 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
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It looks like he is doing a &amp;quot;press check&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;brass check&amp;quot; to me. He grasps the front cocking serrations on the slide, pulls the slide back slightly to check to see if a round or brass is in the barrel. -Scott&lt;br /&gt;
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It's niether the Cobray or the KAC or Colt standalone system... It's an '''RM Equipment''' 203PI pistol(newer than the original top folding stock version, but older than the current side folding M4 stock)  Or more like the Tokyo Marui airsoft version.  http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filnavn=/reviews/m203_pistol/m203_pistol_review.htm&lt;br /&gt;
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== Micro Uzi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Glock 18 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== 1911 Compensators ==&lt;br /&gt;
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They look like the comp kit from kings gunworks.&lt;br /&gt;
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:If you mean are the compensators functional, the answer is no. Otherwise, the muzzle flash wouldn't be so huge (of course, the weapon is also firing full-flash motion picture blanks, which have more powder than live rounds). Compensators and suppressors are almost never functional in Hollywood movies; audiences like to see huge muzzle flashes. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:46, 26 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Castle family in the &amp;quot;9mm vs. 45&amp;quot; debate... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There's a funny scene in the novel (and maybe the extended cut of the film, haven't seen it yet) where Frank makes a comment about his father's love of 1911s.  Frank Sr. responds something to the effect of:  &amp;quot;You may mock, my friend.  Just don't come crying to me when you shoot a crackhead full of 9mm and he responds by breaking your pissy little Glock over your head!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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It will most likely have been in the original script which is what novels are usually written from hence they have all the deleted scenes that didn't make it into either theatrical or directors cuts. Aliens is a very good example of this as it has the deleted scene where Ripley finds Burke and gives him a grenade to kill himself with. That scene is in neither the theatrical or the &amp;quot;special edition&amp;quot; director's cut. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:25, 26 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mossberg 500/Armscor ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm pretty sure the weapon listed as a Mossberg 500 is actually a cut down Armscor shotgun.  This notion was entertained awhile back with a small caption at the beginning of the listing, but it was taken down and never placed in here to properly be analyzed.  There are some additional movies that probably feature the same gun, but the only one I can remember was Red Dragon.  My arguments are these: first, the safety placement is on the front of the trigger guard, not behind the chamber, and secondly, there seems to be a checkered pattern imprinted on the bolt, both of which are unique features of Armscor shotguns.  Should the entry be changed? --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 04:31, 1 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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That's Norman Reedus with the crossbow. He plays Daryl Dixon, who was not in the actual comic that I can recall. I like that though, he's a cool actor. I'm also a little bummed that they didn't use the guns drawn in the comics. Rick uses a HK mk.23. For those of you who might think that it's impossible to tell that from the comic the artist wrote HK MK.23 on the barrel.  [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I read some where that the Walker are attracted to loud noises. that might be why he is carrying a crossbow&lt;br /&gt;
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It is smart to use a crossbow; because it saves on bullets and in most all undead literature and movies the undead always react and swarm when they hear a gunshot. Very good show, have never read the comic but look forward to.-GoshMr.Peabody&lt;br /&gt;
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It's pretty amazing. I recommend buying the trade paperbacks. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Whoa==&lt;br /&gt;
I loved the comic, when the hell did it get a tv show?&lt;br /&gt;
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The idea was revealed a while ago. It comes out on Halloween. -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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honestly , its like two hours till the show ,i cant wait. simmons 8492&lt;br /&gt;
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Well it kept my interest. I'll watch it again next week to see if it can maintain the momentum.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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honestly it took some time to realy get things going , but now hes in a populated zone with other survivers . and if i was him id start that tank up! simmons 8492&lt;br /&gt;
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I coulda sworn the 50 on that tank was still loaded with ammo and in the next scene, it had no ammo [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just watched it again. The .50 on the tank doesn't appear to be loaded, but there's another one in a sandbag fort that is, in the foreground as he goes by. -IGemini 04:15, 4 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crappy dialogue ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the trailer, one of the cops told the other to make sure he had a round in the chamber and that his safety is off. First off, the man he was talking to, had a Glock, so no safety. And since he's a trained cop, ready to open fire on a suspect that's hostile, why wouldn't he have a round in the chamber and his gun ready to go? That line just threw me off [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:58, 3 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey guys, just watched it. Its brilliant, easily as good as the comic. The 'crappy dialogue above does jar a little tho. Hes telling him to make sure he had a round in the chamber and that his safety is off as it is implied the officer in question is a bit useless, however after doing a brass check the officer in question then presses down on the slide release (even tho the slide is forward) as if to pretend it is the saftey catch. Morgan has a 5 shot snub revolver (which someone else will have to identify as im not too good with em). Rick pull a 92fs (standing in for an m9) from a dead soldiers shoulder holster at the end of the episode, and i'm fairly sure the SIG is a tutone P228 or 229 not a P239 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The funny thing about the thing with the safety is that you can hear the sound of a safety being click off.--[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 04:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Remember that the dialogue was written long before it was decided the cop would be holding a Glock(unless the writer is Michael Mann). So maybe the round in the chamber thing  may have been unwarranted, but maybe he was a rookie, he did seem sort of skittish. Regardless, it's unfair to call ''that'' crappy dialogue. I think you're letting your knowledge of guns get in the way of enjoying good stories.--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 04:32, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Dont know if its worth noting, but the cop he tells that too, is actually, the first zombie he ends up shooting, after leaving the police station. Rick commented he was careless and dumb, so reminding him, makes sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, of course, Rick committed a cardinal sin; he referred to a magazine as a clip :P -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not surprised, Sasqatch. The cop I talked to called his Glock 17 a &amp;quot;Glock 9&amp;quot;. I'm sure he would have said clip to. Not all cops are into guns. Haha&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG P239==&lt;br /&gt;
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This doesn't look like a P239 to me; more like a P226 or P228. It's too big, and it has nickel controls (which the two-tone P239s don't have). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:P228 because of the slide length. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Remember, on low resolution screencaps like the ones I had to use, feel free to correct the Gun IDs.  :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]&lt;br /&gt;
::: Watching the scene I agree that it is somewhat larger. Sounds fine to me - I'll change it. The first episode was pretty good. I'm adding a Beretta 92FS (M9) entry - Grimes indeed takes one off a 'dead' soldier inside the Abrams tank he gets into, as noted by the above section. Also, I never did get a good glance at the snub revolver, though I'm fairly certain it's a S&amp;amp;W. They're replaying the show so I'll keep an eye for it, and some of the other guns. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Spoiler Comment and Morgan's Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
Its nice to see the page updated but arn't some of the descriptions (mainly the colt python) a bit spoilerific for anyone who hasn't watched it yet? --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:07, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Whoa, yes they are, I sure as hell didn't add those. :b I'll reword them somewhat. Also! The revolver Morgan uses is a Snub S&amp;amp;W Model 66, I can almost guarantee it. Bah, wish I could get screencaps. Still, I'll add that as well. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 04:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you sure its a 66? I remember it having a 5 round cylinder --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I grabbed this off my skyplus box so sorry bout the quality [IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/2i700fm.jpg[/IMG] Any use, its definatly a 5 shot--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:58, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I could have ''sworn'' it was a S&amp;amp;W. But it's definitely not a Model 66, since there's no rear adj. sights, nor of course a 6-shot cylinder. But Smith snubbie J-frames (5-shot) all have flat 'bull-nose' ejector rod shrouds, not curved. Bah, now I'm kinda stumped. My best guess at this point would probably be a [[Ruger SP101]]. Convert that image there to JPG and upload it on the site. It's not great, but it's better than nothing. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Looks like it could also be either the [[Taurus Model 617]] or possibly a stainless steel [[Taurus Model 85]]. Biu it is difficult.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the barrel it looks like an early Taurus Model 85 in stainless or nickel plated. It was a five shot cylinder definitely.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 17:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: After posting I did consider it being a Taurus, many of them are awfully S&amp;amp;W looking to begin with. I doubt it's a 617 but it easily could be an 85. Hell, could be anything for all I know at this point. I guess it'll just be another 'unidentified' until we get more/better screencaps. I'll modify the S&amp;amp;W 66 entry I posted and just call it un-ID'd snub revolver, noting the 5-shot capacity and stating the possible choices. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am almost certain it is actually a Ruger SP101, two inch model. No other snubbie, as far as I know, has the upper rear of the frame shaped into a rear sight notch like the SP101, as both of those Taurus models just lack rear sights - you can check the Taurus website as both models lack a &amp;quot;rear sight&amp;quot; category under specifications. Also, if you check out the behind the scenes vid [http://www.amctv.com/originals/The-Walking-Dead/?bclid=625294007001&amp;amp;bcpid=111717822001&amp;amp;bctid=628200502001 here], there is a pretty decent side shot of the revolver. The general shape is very close to a SP101, and even from the front, the lines on Morgan's triggerguard and barrel are cut much closer semi-melted look on the SP than the very sharp ones on a Taurus oR S&amp;amp;W.&lt;br /&gt;
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All said, the easiest way to tell would be if they showed the damned cylinder release at some point. --[[User:John 234|John 234]] 07:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC) (Corrected typo --[[User:John 234|John 234]] 02:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of tank was that? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Its oviously a stand-in for an M-1 but I'm not sure what it is. I'm thinking possibly a Chieftain, but I'm not sure. Also, note that a real M-1 woulnd't have worked for the scene since it lacks the floor escape hatch.&lt;br /&gt;
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At this point I'm not sure, but I do suspect it's the same tank that shows up in ''[[Zombieland]]''. Both shows are filmed in Georgia and the voice-over commentary on ''Zombieland'' states that the tank is owned by a private collector.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 16:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Definately a Chieftain.&lt;br /&gt;
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: I concur, Chieftains are often used (mocked-up) as stand-ins for Abrams tanks. I also noticed the bottom escape hatch, which as far as I can recall, indeed isn't on an actual Abrams. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 23:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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(Perhaps it is just me, but the Abrams featured in this appears to be a mocked up British Chieftain Tank, I didn't get a good look at the tank but it didn't seem to be a genuine Abrams, although it could simply be an older pattern M1 without the TUSK upgrade, reactive armor and the more apparent loaders hatch. Yet that would not explain the escape hatch.- Doc345)&lt;br /&gt;
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Older M1s didn't look that diffrent, from the later ones, aside from the most recent upgardes.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this may be the same tank which appeared in, among other series, Jericho.  The vehicle, if I remember correctly, is built on an old Centurion chasis to resemble an Abrams with some obvious differences.  --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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On a random note, where was a Striker seen in the episode? It says on the page that there was one with a fifty cal on it, but aside from the tank, the only other military vehicles I saw where some HMMWVs, what looked like a deuce, and a half, and some abandone Hueys.&lt;br /&gt;
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Intrestingly, in the trailor, the one Rick first sees after leaving the hospital lacked a rotor blade making me think it was edited in post-production. Also, the one off to Ricks left appears to still be lacking one.&lt;br /&gt;
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at the begging seen when the main cerictor walkes out of the hospital he sees a ebandoned military equpent you can see a Stryker IFV --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 21:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Things I noticed ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Did anybody else notice that when Morgan cocked the hammer back on his gun and threatened to shoot Grimes if he didn't talk, the cylinder didn't advance to the next chamber like it should?&lt;br /&gt;
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More than safe to assume that. Most of them even appeared to have solid barrels. Probably rubber.--[[Special:Contributions/99.48.50.70|99.48.50.70]] 04:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The cylinder did rotate, I remembered that happening when I watched the scene. As far as the bag -o- guns, I have no idea. If they were all rubber, they were modeled after some hard to find shotgun configurations and looked very real. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 20:59, 2 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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According to Grimes in episode 3 his duffle bag was holding six shotguns, two &amp;quot;high powered&amp;quot; rifles, a dozen handguns, and 700 rounds of assorted ammo. That's easily 80-90 pounds of gear. There's no way Grimes could be carrying that around in one hand with a gas can in the other. Or getting bucked and having the bag sag to the side and the stuff not come falling out.&lt;br /&gt;
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== I rewatched the first episode. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I noticed the shotguns too but it was hard to get a decent look at them, mainly the second one (Mossberg I guess). I will concur at least one of the other shotguns was indeed a standard 870. No idea what the pistol is/was. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Almost positive the other two deputys, from the neighboring county had Glocks, like the other deputys from Ricks department.&lt;br /&gt;
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Good eye on my part, since it was litreally visible for like less than a second.-AC.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Andrea's gun==&lt;br /&gt;
I believe Andrea is packing a Smith and Wesson 3913 Ladysmith [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I concur. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I also agree about it being a 3913 Ladysmith. We also saw a M67 'baseball' grenade in this latest episode (actually the training version, you could still spot some blue paint on it). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of rifle did Meryl have? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Looked like possibly a Model 70, but I'm bad at identifing bolt actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Seriously, does anyone know what kind of rifle he had?-AC&lt;br /&gt;
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Compare the bolt heads (or whatever the end of the bolt closest to the butt is called); the Remington 700 seems to have more of a protruding portion, while the Mod. 70 is tucked in and more square-like. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here it is.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Bolt Action Rifles - Most common Sporting Models|Scoped Bolt Action Hunting Rifles]]. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:52, 18 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Shane's Pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
Can anyone identify the pistol Shane is carrying? It looks like either a Glock or possibly a Sig Pro. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Probally a Gock. There very common cop guns, in both hollywood, and real life. Also, severael of the cops, at opening shootout had them, so evedently the prophouse they went to had some.&lt;br /&gt;
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I really like how Rick actually checks the dead soldier's vest for more ammo instead of just taking the weapon like every other film. I also like how when his Beretta runs dry he doesn't toss it away like some generic action hero but he keeps it and stows it in Glenn's backpack. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:03, 16 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh yeah, that was good stuff. Have yet to see the Beretta again though. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Did you also notice that his [[Colt Python]] is still in his hoslter even though he ran out of ammo for it? I liked that touch as well. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You never know what you might find ammo for at a latter date.-AC&lt;br /&gt;
::Which he does in the third episode. Anyway Python's are too expensive to be tossing away on a whim. Even after the Zombie Apocalypse has happened. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:32, 16 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If I recall right they've been outta production since the late 90s.&lt;br /&gt;
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::The last Python was manufactured approximately six years ago. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:30, 16 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Still outta production than. If I recall right, for a while it was outta generael production, but could be special ordered.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes the last five or six years it had to be ordered through the custom shop.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:54, 18 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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IMO, the Official Police and Detective Special should be included as well. -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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Too bad that still fully loaded .50 next to the tank is too heavy to take back [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If he can walk and ride a horse with a 90lb bag on his back like its nothing, he could carry a M2.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:44, 23 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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And he brought buddies with him to GET that bag he left behind. They can lug around an M2 with ammo. Sure it doesn't look like there's any extra, but it's an M2 with AMMO! [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vatos==&lt;br /&gt;
Ok, tonight I think I've seen a S&amp;amp;W model 10, a Colt Detective Special, and possibly a S&amp;amp;W mosel 28 in the hands of the mexican gangsters and it looks like T-Dog was using a BAR. The bag had some Sigs and Glocks and Daryl had a Remington 870 and I think that Rick is using a Mossberg 590 not a 500.  [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Daryl took at least one Sig from the bag. T-Dog used a Mossberg later, but I think his scoped rifle was a BAR. The shotty Glenn ended up with, looked the same as Daryl's. Also, Shane drew his pistol at one point, but it was hard to see.-AC&lt;br /&gt;
==Daryl's Crossbow==&lt;br /&gt;
Daryl Dixon's crossbow is a Horton Scout HD 125: http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2817217&amp;amp;cid=CSE:GoogleProductSearch. In the fourth episode &amp;quot;Vatos&amp;quot;, when Daryl points it a T-dog on the roof you can see the faded Horton logo on the front. Scout 125 can be seen above the trigger after the camera angle changes.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Was that an XD? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The handgun, that Daryl takes from the bag of guns. At first I thought it was a SIG, but after rewatching it, I think it may have been a Springfield Army XD.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nope, definitely a bi-tone Sig of some kind.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Walkingdeadsig.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rick Grimes ([[Andrew Lincoln]]) inspects a bi-tone Sig Sauer handgun from his bag of guns.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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That's Norman Reedus with the crossbow. He plays Daryl Dixon, who was not in the actual comic that I can recall. I like that though, he's a cool actor. I'm also a little bummed that they didn't use the guns drawn in the comics. Rick uses a HK mk.23. For those of you who might think that it's impossible to tell that from the comic the artist wrote HK MK.23 on the barrel.  [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I read some where that the Walker are attracted to loud noises. that might be why he is carrying a crossbow&lt;br /&gt;
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It is smart to use a crossbow; because it saves on bullets and in most all undead literature and movies the undead always react and swarm when they hear a gunshot. Very good show, have never read the comic but look forward to.-GoshMr.Peabody&lt;br /&gt;
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It's pretty amazing. I recommend buying the trade paperbacks. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Whoa==&lt;br /&gt;
I loved the comic, when the hell did it get a tv show?&lt;br /&gt;
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The idea was revealed a while ago. It comes out on Halloween. -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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honestly , its like two hours till the show ,i cant wait. simmons 8492&lt;br /&gt;
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Well it kept my interest. I'll watch it again next week to see if it can maintain the momentum.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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honestly it took some time to realy get things going , but now hes in a populated zone with other survivers . and if i was him id start that tank up! simmons 8492&lt;br /&gt;
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I coulda sworn the 50 on that tank was still loaded with ammo and in the next scene, it had no ammo [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just watched it again. The .50 on the tank doesn't appear to be loaded, but there's another one in a sandbag fort that is, in the foreground as he goes by. -IGemini 04:15, 4 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crappy dialogue ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the trailer, one of the cops told the other to make sure he had a round in the chamber and that his safety is off. First off, the man he was talking to, had a Glock, so no safety. And since he's a trained cop, ready to open fire on a suspect that's hostile, why wouldn't he have a round in the chamber and his gun ready to go? That line just threw me off [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:58, 3 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey guys, just watched it. Its brilliant, easily as good as the comic. The 'crappy dialogue above does jar a little tho. Hes telling him to make sure he had a round in the chamber and that his safety is off as it is implied the officer in question is a bit useless, however after doing a brass check the officer in question then presses down on the slide release (even tho the slide is forward) as if to pretend it is the saftey catch. Morgan has a 5 shot snub revolver (which someone else will have to identify as im not too good with em). Rick pull a 92fs (standing in for an m9) from a dead soldiers shoulder holster at the end of the episode, and i'm fairly sure the SIG is a tutone P228 or 229 not a P239 --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The funny thing about the thing with the safety is that you can hear the sound of a safety being click off.--[[User:Mattattack07|Mattattack07]] 04:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Remember that the dialogue was written long before it was decided the cop would be holding a Glock(unless the writer is Michael Mann). So maybe the round in the chamber thing  may have been unwarranted, but maybe he was a rookie, he did seem sort of skittish. Regardless, it's unfair to call ''that'' crappy dialogue. I think you're letting your knowledge of guns get in the way of enjoying good stories.--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 04:32, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Dont know if its worth noting, but the cop he tells that too, is actually, the first zombie he ends up shooting, after leaving the police station. Rick commented he was careless and dumb, so reminding him, makes sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, of course, Rick committed a cardinal sin; he referred to a magazine as a clip :P -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not surprised, Sasqatch. The cop I talked to called his Glock 17 a &amp;quot;Glock 9&amp;quot;. I'm sure he would have said clip to. Not all cops are into guns. Haha&lt;br /&gt;
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==SIG P239==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WalkingDead-SIGP239.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A chase suspect emerges from the wrecked car firing a two-tone SIG P239 at police.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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This doesn't look like a P239 to me; more like a P226 or P228. It's too big, and it has nickel controls (which the two-tone P239s don't have). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:P228 because of the slide length. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Remember, on low resolution screencaps like the ones I had to use, feel free to correct the Gun IDs.  :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]&lt;br /&gt;
::: Watching the scene I agree that it is somewhat larger. Sounds fine to me - I'll change it. The first episode was pretty good. I'm adding a Beretta 92FS (M9) entry - Grimes indeed takes one off a 'dead' soldier inside the Abrams tank he gets into, as noted by the above section. Also, I never did get a good glance at the snub revolver, though I'm fairly certain it's a S&amp;amp;W. They're replaying the show so I'll keep an eye for it, and some of the other guns. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Spoiler Comment and Morgan's Revolver==&lt;br /&gt;
Its nice to see the page updated but arn't some of the descriptions (mainly the colt python) a bit spoilerific for anyone who hasn't watched it yet? --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:07, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Whoa, yes they are, I sure as hell didn't add those. :b I'll reword them somewhat. Also! The revolver Morgan uses is a Snub S&amp;amp;W Model 66, I can almost guarantee it. Bah, wish I could get screencaps. Still, I'll add that as well. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 04:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you sure its a 66? I remember it having a 5 round cylinder --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I grabbed this off my skyplus box so sorry bout the quality [IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/2i700fm.jpg[/IMG] Any use, its definatly a 5 shot--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:58, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I could have ''sworn'' it was a S&amp;amp;W. But it's definitely not a Model 66, since there's no rear adj. sights, nor of course a 6-shot cylinder. But Smith snubbie J-frames (5-shot) all have flat 'bull-nose' ejector rod shrouds, not curved. Bah, now I'm kinda stumped. My best guess at this point would probably be a [[Ruger SP101]]. Convert that image there to JPG and upload it on the site. It's not great, but it's better than nothing. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Looks like it could also be either the [[Taurus Model 617]] or possibly a stainless steel [[Taurus Model 85]]. Biu it is difficult.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the barrel it looks like an early Taurus Model 85 in stainless or nickel plated. It was a five shot cylinder definitely.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 17:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: After posting I did consider it being a Taurus, many of them are awfully S&amp;amp;W looking to begin with. I doubt it's a 617 but it easily could be an 85. Hell, could be anything for all I know at this point. I guess it'll just be another 'unidentified' until we get more/better screencaps. I'll modify the S&amp;amp;W 66 entry I posted and just call it un-ID'd snub revolver, noting the 5-shot capacity and stating the possible choices. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am almost certain it is actually a Ruger SP101, two inch model. No other snubbie, as far as I know, has the upper rear of the frame shaped into a rear sight notch like the SP101, as both of those Taurus models just lack rear sights - you can check the Taurus website as both models lack a &amp;quot;rear sight&amp;quot; category under specifications. Also, if you check out the behind the scenes vid [http://www.amctv.com/originals/The-Walking-Dead/?bclid=625294007001&amp;amp;bcpid=111717822001&amp;amp;bctid=628200502001 here], there is a pretty decent side shot of the revolver. The general shape is very close to a SP101, and even from the front, the lines on Morgan's triggerguard and barrel are cut much closer semi-melted look on the SP than the very sharp ones on a Taurus oR S&amp;amp;W.&lt;br /&gt;
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All said, the easiest way to tell would be if they showed the damned cylinder release at some point. --[[User:John 234|John 234]] 07:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC) (Corrected typo --[[User:John 234|John 234]] 02:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of tank was that? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Its oviously a stand-in for an M-1 but I'm not sure what it is. I'm thinking possibly a Chieftain, but I'm not sure. Also, note that a real M-1 woulnd't have worked for the scene since it lacks the floor escape hatch.&lt;br /&gt;
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At this point I'm not sure, but I do suspect it's the same tank that shows up in ''[[Zombieland]]''. Both shows are filmed in Georgia and the voice-over commentary on ''Zombieland'' states that the tank is owned by a private collector.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 16:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Definately a Chieftain.&lt;br /&gt;
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: I concur, Chieftains are often used (mocked-up) as stand-ins for Abrams tanks. I also noticed the bottom escape hatch, which as far as I can recall, indeed isn't on an actual Abrams. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 23:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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(Perhaps it is just me, but the Abrams featured in this appears to be a mocked up British Chieftain Tank, I didn't get a good look at the tank but it didn't seem to be a genuine Abrams, although it could simply be an older pattern M1 without the TUSK upgrade, reactive armor and the more apparent loaders hatch. Yet that would not explain the escape hatch.- Doc345)&lt;br /&gt;
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Older M1s didn't look that diffrent, from the later ones, aside from the most recent upgardes.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this may be the same tank which appeared in, among other series, Jericho.  The vehicle, if I remember correctly, is built on an old Centurion chasis to resemble an Abrams with some obvious differences.  --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 00:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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On a random note, where was a Striker seen in the episode? It says on the page that there was one with a fifty cal on it, but aside from the tank, the only other military vehicles I saw where some HMMWVs, what looked like a deuce, and a half, and some abandone Hueys.&lt;br /&gt;
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Intrestingly, in the trailor, the one Rick first sees after leaving the hospital lacked a rotor blade making me think it was edited in post-production. Also, the one off to Ricks left appears to still be lacking one.&lt;br /&gt;
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at the begging seen when the main cerictor walkes out of the hospital he sees a ebandoned military equpent you can see a Stryker IFV --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 21:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Things I noticed ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Did anybody else notice that when Morgan cocked the hammer back on his gun and threatened to shoot Grimes if he didn't talk, the cylinder didn't advance to the next chamber like it should?&lt;br /&gt;
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And what about Grimes' personal arsenal in his backpack? Is it safe to assume that rubber/resin mockups? He was getting bounced pretty hard by that horse and the guns kept bumping him in the back. That's at least 40 pounds of gear to be carrying around.&lt;br /&gt;
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More than safe to assume that. Most of them even appeared to have solid barrels. Probably rubber.--[[Special:Contributions/99.48.50.70|99.48.50.70]] 04:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The cylinder did rotate, I remembered that happening when I watched the scene. As far as the bag -o- guns, I have no idea. If they were all rubber, they were modeled after some hard to find shotgun configurations and looked very real. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 20:59, 2 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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According to Grimes in episode 3 his duffle bag was holding six shotguns, two &amp;quot;high powered&amp;quot; rifles, a dozen handguns, and 700 rounds of assorted ammo. That's easily 80-90 pounds of gear. There's no way Grimes could be carrying that around in one hand with a gas can in the other. Or getting bucked and having the bag sag to the side and the stuff not come falling out.&lt;br /&gt;
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== I rewatched the first episode. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The gun used to shoot Rick, I'm pretty sure was either 1911, or a Glock. It seemed to have an extended slide.&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I noticed the shotguns too but it was hard to get a decent look at them, mainly the second one (Mossberg I guess). I will concur at least one of the other shotguns was indeed a standard 870. No idea what the pistol is/was. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Almost positive the other two deputys, from the neighboring county had Glocks, like the other deputys from Ricks department.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking at the pick on here, I'm more positive than ever that the last gunmans weapon was a 1911.&lt;br /&gt;
Good eye on my part, since it was litreally visible for like less than a second.-AC.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Andrea's gun==&lt;br /&gt;
I believe Andrea is packing a Smith and Wesson 3913 Ladysmith [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I concur. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I also agree about it being a 3913 Ladysmith. We also saw a M67 'baseball' grenade in this latest episode (actually the training version, you could still spot some blue paint on it). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of rifle did Meryl have? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Looked like possibly a Model 70, but I'm bad at identifing bolt actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Seriously, does anyone know what kind of rifle he had?-AC&lt;br /&gt;
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Here it is.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Bolt Action Rifles - Most common Sporting Models|Scoped Bolt Action Hunting Rifles]]. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:52, 18 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Shane's Pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
Can anyone identify the pistol Shane is carrying? It looks like either a Glock or possibly a Sig Pro. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Probally a Gock. There very common cop guns, in both hollywood, and real life. Also, severael of the cops, at opening shootout had them, so evedently the prophouse they went to had some.&lt;br /&gt;
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Definitely a Glock. Although it's only shown briefly, it looks like a 17. He carries it in a thumb break holster.&lt;br /&gt;
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I really like how Rick actually checks the dead soldier's vest for more ammo instead of just taking the weapon like every other film. I also like how when his Beretta runs dry he doesn't toss it away like some generic action hero but he keeps it and stows it in Glenn's backpack. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:03, 16 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh yeah, that was good stuff. Have yet to see the Beretta again though. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Did you also notice that his [[Colt Python]] is still in his hoslter even though he ran out of ammo for it? I liked that touch as well. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You never know what you might find ammo for at a latter date.-AC&lt;br /&gt;
::Which he does in the third episode. Anyway Python's are too expensive to be tossing away on a whim. Even after the Zombie Apocalypse has happened. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:32, 16 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If I recall right they've been outta production since the late 90s.&lt;br /&gt;
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::The last Python was manufactured approximately six years ago. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:30, 16 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Still outta production than. If I recall right, for a while it was outta generael production, but could be special ordered.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes the last five or six years it had to be ordered through the custom shop.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:54, 18 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Python, and The Anaconda, where the best revolvers Colt made since the SAA imho-AC&lt;br /&gt;
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IMO, the Official Police and Detective Special should be included as well. -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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Too bad that still fully loaded .50 next to the tank is too heavy to take back [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If he can walk and ride a horse with a 90lb bag on his back like its nothing, he could carry a M2.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:44, 23 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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And he brought buddies with him to GET that bag he left behind. They can lug around an M2 with ammo. Sure it doesn't look like there's any extra, but it's an M2 with AMMO! [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vatos==&lt;br /&gt;
Ok, tonight I think I've seen a S&amp;amp;W model 10, a Colt Detective Special, and possibly a S&amp;amp;W mosel 28 in the hands of the mexican gangsters and it looks like T-Dog was using a BAR. The bag had some Sigs and Glocks and Daryl had a Remington 870 and I think that Rick is using a Mossberg 590 not a 500.  [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Just so everyone knows, I didn't edit the page tonight, I just wrote on here. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Daryl took at least one Sig from the bag. T-Dog used a Mossberg later, but I think his scoped rifle was a BAR. The shotty Glenn ended up with, looked the same as Daryl's. Also, Shane drew his pistol at one point, but it was hard to see.-AC&lt;br /&gt;
==Daryl's Crossbow==&lt;br /&gt;
Daryl Dixon's crossbow is a Horton Scout HD 125: http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2817217&amp;amp;cid=CSE:GoogleProductSearch. In the fourth episode &amp;quot;Vatos&amp;quot;, when Daryl points it a T-dog on the roof you can see the faded Horton logo on the front. Scout 125 can be seen above the trigger after the camera angle changes.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Picture added and changes made. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 19:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Was that an XD? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The handgun, that Daryl takes from the bag of guns. At first I thought it was a SIG, but after rewatching it, I think it may have been a Springfield Army XD.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nope, definitely a bi-tone Sig of some kind.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Question on the weapons used==&lt;br /&gt;
anyone know what the 6th barrel down is, between the silenced M4 and the MP7?  Might be a shotgun of sorts, based on the barrel/handguard...also no magazine.  Can pick out the grip/trigger to the right of the skull's eye.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2378533888/tt1320253&lt;br /&gt;
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-Barrett M107 with SUSAT (?!) Scope&lt;br /&gt;
-M16A1&lt;br /&gt;
-C8 with M203&lt;br /&gt;
-G36 with AG36&lt;br /&gt;
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-Shorty Remington 870 / Masterkey&lt;br /&gt;
-MP7&lt;br /&gt;
-Mk. 23&lt;br /&gt;
-Model 29&lt;br /&gt;
-Steyr M9A1&lt;br /&gt;
-Beretta M9 with front cocking serrations&lt;br /&gt;
-SVI Infinity&lt;br /&gt;
-Beretta 93R&lt;br /&gt;
-Desert Eagle&lt;br /&gt;
-A fuckload of knifes --[[User:Yocapo32|yocapo32]] 03:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It matches the sg9000 airsoft shotgun i once saw at a gunshow. so i think it may be it.&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.planxairsoftguns.com/store-products-UU-2272027---Walther-SG9000-SHOTGUN---C02_1096639197.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I just thought I'd point out that the M107 does not have a SUSAT, but an ELCAN C79. Please correct me if I'm wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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I guess I stand correct, it is a ELCAN C79, they look similar thought -_-' --[[User:Yocapo32|yocapo32]] 23:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unknown 1911 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it's a Detonics Scoremaster, Check out the two Pictures on the 1911 section.&lt;br /&gt;
It's got the same trigger, and possibly the same magazine buttpad and hammer.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I deleted my previous two posts. - Thomas.&lt;br /&gt;
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== CQB-R Image ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.screeninglog.com/journal/2010/5/12/check-out-these-new-expendables-photos.html Screeninglog.com - Here is page link instead]&lt;br /&gt;
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New Image featuring the CQB-R Rifles, can someone replace the one on the main page? Thx - Thomas.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2691072512/tt1320253 IMDB.com]&lt;br /&gt;
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Look at this pic of Jet Li, the grip on his 'CQB'. Thats a Heckler &amp;amp; Koch 416?&lt;br /&gt;
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Definatly a 416 look at the shape of the grip. Is Terry Crews using frag 12 rounds, as frag 12's normally come in a green casing and the spent cartridges in the image all appear to be see thu / white. this could of course just be hollywood, being hollywood - Captain Snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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I also thing stathams 92 is most likely a 92G elite, or a ninety two based on the squared off pistol grip - captain snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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Tango Down makes a pistol grip almost identical to that of the HK416, the BG-16 Battle Grip or so it's supposedly called. It could be one of those. I'd rather wait until we can find better shots of his gun to determine whether it's a 416 or not. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 23:34, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cameos ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it me or does anybody else miss hearing arnie's voice lol&lt;br /&gt;
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:I just saw Commando last week so...no I don't miss his voice [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone else think Clint Eastwood shoulda had a cameo?&lt;br /&gt;
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I gotta disagree. He was huge int he 80s of course, but not in the same way these guys were. Eastwood is on another level in many ways. My question, where is Segal? Chuck Norris? Tom Berhinger?&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree on Clint. While he was a definite star, he was a different sort of star than these guys. As for your question about where is Seagal? Well, he WAS offered a part and turned it down. Apparently, Seagal has issues with one of the produces of The Expendables and refuses to work with him(you can catch him September in Machete though). Jean-Claude Van Damme was also offered a role and turned it down, because he &amp;quot;doesn't want his career going in that direction&amp;quot;(that direction being &amp;quot;up&amp;quot; I assume), and Kurt Russell turned a part down due to &amp;quot;a lack of interest in ensemble acting at this time&amp;quot;. Wesley Snipes was going to be in it, but he wasn't allowed to leave the country due to that whole tax evasion thing, so he couldn't go down to South America or Mexico or wherever it was they filmed it. Chuck woulda fit in too, but I don't think he was offered a part. And Berrenger? Nothing against the guy, but Berrenger was pretty much third tier even in his heyday, even the average classic action fan isn't gonna bring him up when they're thinking of action stars. Not that I woulda opposed him don't get me wrong, but at the same time, I don't think his omission is exactly as noticeable as say, Seagal or Mel Gibson(I think we can all guess why he wasn't offered a part) for example. I also missed Chow Yun-Fat. Li is a badass to be sure and I'm glad he's here, but woulda been cool to see Chow going back to old school Woo-mode and packing a couple handguns as well. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 12:52, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Addendum. Apparently at Comic-Con, Stallone said &amp;quot;I talked to Van Damme. I talked to [Steven] Segal. I even talked to Chuck Norris.&amp;quot; He then added, &amp;quot;But there are certain considerations, like insanity.&amp;quot;. Not sure if the insanity line was specifically for one of them, or all of them. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 22:50, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Screw Chuck Norris bring Jack Bauer up in here. [[User:24guns|24guns]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I totally woulda dug Kiefer Sutherland getting a part. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 12:52, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Jackie Chan should have been in this. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 23:36, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Nope, Jackie Chan focuses on much lighter 'comical' action fare.  He would not be comfortable with such grisly violence as this does not fit with his cinema history well at all.  It would not have made sense to include Jackie Chan. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Actually Jackie Chan did a lot of serious, even dark action/drama movies before ([[New Police Story]] for example).  It's just that his Hollywood movies are all action comedy and that's what North American viewers are used to.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 17:41, 9 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Damn straight[[User:24guns|24guns]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Bruce Campbell ftw. -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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==Charles Daly 1911's - CONFIRMED AS KIMBER CUSTOMS==&lt;br /&gt;
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The pistols list as Charles Daly Customs are Kimber Customs with Bright Blue finish. But I will confirm before I change the heading.-[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]] 00:04, 17 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Who in their right mind would customize a Charles Daly...I would have to hear it from the movie armor himself before i believe that one.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 15:49, 17 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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CONFIRMED:Whoever thought they were CDs could not have been further off. Like the above, my vote went for Kimber, and NOW it is CONFIRMED---&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tactical-life.com/online/exclusives/kimber-the-expendables/?hp=exclusives_title&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 23:19, 16 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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After this confirmation I changed the heading on the main page to reflect this. Since, I confess, I'm kinda new at editing this, I just changed the heading, wasn't sure if the details of the customization are meant to be included or not. If they are, feel free to add whatever is necessary. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 02:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elpaRzwICMk&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there is a Saiga 12 being used by Hale Caesar (Terry Crews) in the clip&lt;br /&gt;
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== Holy Cow ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So many action stars in one movie. This can only be good --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 15:59, 17 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Plane==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can anyone identify the plane nd the machine guns in the nose they use to take out the dock?&lt;br /&gt;
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:I would guess either .30 or .50 cal browning machine guns&lt;br /&gt;
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Plane is a Grumman HU-16 Albatross. --[[User:Sidewinder Forge|Sidewinder Forge]] 14:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And they are identified in 'the making of' pre-released video as  50 cals, so I assume they are AN-M2 machine guns [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:52, 28 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gunnar's M79 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw a Clip from when the Screenshot was taken. I believe he uses a Non-Explosive round like the HK69A1 in Miami Vice.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Expendables-M79-1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Gunnar Jensen opens fire with his [[M79]].]][[Image:MV_Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tubbs pulls out his [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK69A1 40mm Launcher|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK69A1]] on Yero.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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It's possible, the Miami Vive Round is a custom made single shot (giant) shotgun round made from a 40mm.--[[User:Jackie.45Cal|Jackie.45Cal]] 23:29, 2 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Christ, those pistols look tiny. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I mean, I shouldn't be surprised that Stalone has massive hands, but still, the Beretta and the SSA look absolutely tiny in his hands. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 04:58, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Willis' Role ==&lt;br /&gt;
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From what I've heard, Willis isn't just a cameo. He apparently plays an important part in the plot. At least, that's what I've heard. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 21:32, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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SPOILER SPOILER&lt;br /&gt;
*I saw it today. He isn't much more than a cameo. Three minutes of screen time, and mentioned again later.&lt;br /&gt;
*Stallone and Statham make up a sizeable portion of it, effectively being the two leads.&lt;br /&gt;
-SasquatchJim, 19:47 EST 13 August 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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==Just watched it==&lt;br /&gt;
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Pardon my french, but i fucking loved it!!! Arnie and bruce sadly only do cameos, but its worth it for a few jokes.&lt;br /&gt;
But onto the guns. Stallone (barny ross) is packing a pair of Charles Daly M1911's (which sometimes he fires so fast it nears automatic) one on each thigh. He does some perfect and frankly beautiful speedloads with them too. On the same belt he also caries the custom single action army on a quickdraw rig to his rear.&lt;br /&gt;
Stathams (lee christmas) main sidearm, seen mostly in the final action peice is a Beretta 92G Elite 1A which he uses in conjunction with throwing knives and if im being honest kinda steals the show.&lt;br /&gt;
The other real star of the movie is Terry Crews AA12, given its own into speech he even shows us the Frag 12 mini rocket out of its casing and explains to the audience just how cool the frag 12 really is, and the scenes he uses it truely do it justice, people are torn apart in a gorey wargasm.&lt;br /&gt;
Oh and Dolph Lundgren (Gunnar) briefly threatens Stone Cold with a shorty shotgun with a folding frong grip, much like Tubb's from miami vice, possibly a franchi but i cant be sure.&lt;br /&gt;
Ok there's my 50 cents, but it really did kick ass--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 23:56, 13 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed, Captain. The scene where he first uses the AA-12 is EPIC. I'm not normally a fan of the AA-12, but I had to respect it here. Also, many of Statham's fistfight scenes were awesome.&lt;br /&gt;
* As a side note, I believe the shotgun was a Serbu Super Shorty. I could easily be wrong, though.&lt;br /&gt;
*I think Yin was using a Steyr TMP in the back of Barney's truck. Again, don't quote me on that.&lt;br /&gt;
-SasquatchJim, 21:22 EST, 13 August 2010 (Not a member, but I've been told to sign my posts.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Statham's fight scenes were cool. He messed that guy in the blue polo up with that kick to the head. --[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Suberu shorty looks like the gun, but i think it was a brugger and thompet MP9 not the TMP due to the folding stock, and its always good practise to sign your posts --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 00:35, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, sorry. I've never heard of the MP9. BTW, am I signing my posts right, since I'm not a user? -SasquatchJim 21:55 EST 13 August 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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Brugger and Thommet bought out the stery tmp design an released ith with a folding stock as the MP-9, and yeah, thats fine, you dont need the date/time stamp but its always welcome --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It was badass, just a great fun to watch action movie not loaded with preachy messages or other bullshit. They said it would be like an awesome 80s action movie, and delivered. BTW, I dont think there charles daly 1911s. Im betting their kimbers like Pheonixint said. BTW, remember when i think it was steve austin took off stallone's vest (which looked like a blackhawk strike) and said that without the kevlar hed be ripped apart or something to that effect, that the vest had no kevlar, it was just load bearing equipment, no panels or plates.&lt;br /&gt;
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No crap...where is the evidence that these are Charles daly?  Like i said, who would buy a cheap 1911 just to customize it all badass like?--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 20:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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And pheonixint is in the industry, his info is usually real solid, while i dont see one shred of evidence its a bargain bin 1911.&lt;br /&gt;
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There's only one reason I can think as to why they'd be CD 1911s: The directors wanted to save money bu using inexpensive 1911s and customizing them. E.G. Using a $600 1911 instead of a $3000 one. I don't know, though.-SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Knives ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does anyone know the knives that they used in the movie? I saw some links to the ones that Sly and Doph uses, but I want to know what are the ones that Jason Statham uses. He had the kunai throwing knives and the folding knife in that one scene. I really want that knife now. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:23, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:In the end credits, it says knives provided by Gil Hibben. Tool's throwing knives in the end were definitely Hibbens. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 21:05, 15 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The first knife Tool drew from his boot and threw, was a Cold Steel Espada. Gunner313&lt;br /&gt;
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== What gun is stallone using in the tunnels? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I couldn't see it good enough to ID but it looks like a MP7. Anyone else got an opinion?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 01:20, 17 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm pretty sure Stallone was using one of the kitted out M4A1 Carbine things, but he was holding it with one hand by the foregrip instead of at the ready because he was using it mainly for the flashlight. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]&lt;br /&gt;
Pretty much. I have no idea what part of that thing looks like an MP7. If you look at the main page, the Vltor rifles were all what the team was using [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:27, 17 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I know he was using a Vltor later but when he was alone in the tunnels. I don't know just had a feeling it was.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 14:38, 17 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the bad dark lighting of the movie confused you [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:39, 17 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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He was holding the vltor by the surefire light foregrip, definatly - Captain snikt&lt;br /&gt;
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Yep, I just saw the movie again, and as the other guys said, he's carrying the Vltor by the foregrip, there's no MP7 in sight. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 22:01, 17 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Its a noveske, vltor makes the stock and rail system.&lt;br /&gt;
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I was looking at the front of the gun and never looked at the back so it looked like a machine pistol of somesort so I assumed a MP7. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 16:46, 20 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Guns SPOILERS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Shorty3-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Gunnar ([[Dolph Lundgren]]) pulls a [[Serbu Super Shorty]] on Monroe's Henchmen when negotiating a deal.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:USP9mm.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Paine ([[Steve Austin]]) reacts to this and holds his [[H&amp;amp;K USP]] on Gunnar.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Someone needs to add these guns.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:24, 18 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Yin Yang's pistol? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone recall what pistol Jet Li's character was carrying at the end battle? There was so much going on during that assault that I was just sitting and enjoying the carnage, without paying as much attention to weapon details as I normally would. And now that I'm sitting here trying to recall, my mind is blanking on me. Anyone able to refresh my memory? [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 02:32, 18 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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He had a pistol? There was too much for me to take in at once!--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:24, 18 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, he most noticeably using it when he was clearing the soldiers out of one of those tents or whatever they were. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 05:55, 18 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh yeah now I remember it, I believe it was a Beretta. I could be wrong though.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 15:00, 18 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Its definaty a 'box' shaped pistol, I just watched it again, looked like a p99 to me, but the only times we see it he is moving, there are no close up either --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 22:27, 19 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Now that you mention it, I vaguely recall it looking like a P99 as well. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 22:30, 19 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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i say it looked like a small glock, maybe a 19, not sure&lt;br /&gt;
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I haven't seen the movie, but on a poster at my theatre, Jet Li has a SIG Pro in his holster, don't know if he has one in the movie though.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 05:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hmm, that could be it, actually. Fairly sure it's not a Glock, but it could definitely be a SIG Pro. Thanks for the info man. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 22:03, 31 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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yep that is defintly the gun he used in the film, the pics of the slide in the film during that scene look the same&lt;br /&gt;
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i remember a pistol, he sort of takes cover behind something and then kills the guys and shows a full shot of the gun in his hand kind of pointing down. im going to see it again tommorow so ill have a look,also found apicog Gunnars shotty, going to put itup--[[User:Smish34|Smish34]] 00:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Some of the lower quality caps will be put here until the official dvd or better quality official clips are released. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 09:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The_expendable-ar15var.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Team members carry the Vltor / Noveske Diplomat with EOTech, flashlight, and laser sights.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Smoke Grenade==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The_expendable-smoke.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Smoke grenade about to go off.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Demolition Man==&lt;br /&gt;
in the promo still of sly aiming at dolph who is thretening li, doent it lookan awful lot like some of the scenes from demolition man?--[[User:Smish34|Smish34]] 01:29, 20 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't recall a single scene like that from Demolition Man but if you recall a specific part feel free to point it out. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:34, 20 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think he means these two shots [[Image:DemoMan_011.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] [[Image:Expendables.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]--[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 05:05, 20 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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yeah thats the one, thamks Funkychinaman.--[[User:Smish34|Smish34]] 15:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Okay, he's wearing a beret in both pics, but other than that, it's just 2 shots of the same actor holding a gun, and not even in the same situation, one he's holding it directly to someone's head, the other he's standing several feet away pointing it at someone. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 20:15, 24 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, he said they look alike. As you pointed out, they look alike. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 20:37, 24 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well yeah, in the sense that it's the same dude holding a gun in both shots. By that reasoning, any 2 shots of Arnie holding an M16 will look alike, or any 2 shots of Chow Yun Fat holding 2 pistols, and so on. Doesn't mean End of Days looks an awful lot like Predator, does it? [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 10:15, 25 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::He mentioned it, and I found it in two minutes, so obviously he wasn't he only one. It's like if Arnold made another movie where he held a shotgun with one arm while wearing a black leather jacket. Why are you getting worked up about this? The guy made an observation, that's all. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 11:17, 25 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, so the pistol is different and the goatee too, but in both shots, aiming one handed, tac vest over black t-shirt and black beret, i think its similar enough --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 12:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed it too and thought it was pretty badass. DKS01 you need to chill out with these comments. Let other people have an opinion. --[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Blow me, I wasn't aware I was somehow preventing anyone from having an opinion. If I had that capability I'd probably use it to get Rush Limbaugh off the air, but since Rush still broadcasts, I guess I don't have that power. He stated his opinion, I stated my opinion, deal with it chief. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 20:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC) &lt;br /&gt;
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Geez man, lose the attitude. And don't you ever tell me to blow you. I have never seen you write anything on this site but rude and asshole comments.  --[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
::You've never seen me post anything but rude and asshole comments? Guess reading isn't something you're very good at then, cause there are other comments from me on THIS VERY PAGE where I posted about the fixing the Kimbers entry, discussed what pistol Jet Li was carrying, and agreed with some other dudes that Stallone's gun in the tunnel was the Diplomat and not an MP7. Actually, wait a sec, I think I remember you now, you're that dude who thought using the Harris technique was a &amp;quot;Call of Duty&amp;quot; homage then got mad when me and some other dudes told you it probably wasn't an homage, right? [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 04:24, 31 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yep that's me.--[[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it just stands out because it's rare for a lot of movie stars to wear anything on their head at all. Off the top of my head, I think the only movies where Arnold wears anything on his head is in the Conan movies, where's he's got that weird headband thing. Not even in Predator, where it would've made sense, did he wear a hat. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 23:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually he did have a hat on in the very beginning of Predator...-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 04:53, 30 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, there are some particular movies where the character is well-known for wearing a hat. Indiana Jones, Crocodile Dundee, Freddy Krueger, and others.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, I think Arnold briefly wears a hat in the Running Man (When trying to escape.) -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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I'll give you Indy and Dundee, but those are also parts of costumes. I can't think of any other hat wearing Harrison Ford characters though. (And looking back, I think Arnold did wear a hat in Collateral, when he was trying to infiltrate the terrorist base.)--[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 10:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, Harrison wore a stormtrooper helment in Star Wars. Does that count LOL? But yeah, I see what you mean though; overall, costumes with hats are rare.&lt;br /&gt;
:For most stars, their greatest assets are their features. Why hide them with a hat? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 17:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Except in some cases...That explains why Mickey Rourke DID wear a hat. -SasquatchJim&lt;br /&gt;
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To be honest Mickey Rourke Needed to wear a trenchcoat and a bag over his head--[[User:Smish34|Smish34]] 16:38, 31 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Totally irrelevant but it bugged me, @DKS01 Arnie doesn't use an M16 in End of Days, is a pimped MP5.--[[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 22:13, 9 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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While on the hat subject, the whole team wear hats in this movie both in the opening scene, and the final shootout (with the exception of stallone who loses his beret) --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 23:22, 9 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know why, but I REALLY like that Statham wore a baseball cap. It was understated and badass.   -SJ&lt;br /&gt;
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Toll Road's boonie hat never fell off, even during fights, i know from experience they come off easy if your not wearing a chin strap.&lt;br /&gt;
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To be fair, this is sort of a &amp;quot;suspended-reality&amp;quot; movie. Take everything with a grain of salt. -SJ&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gunner's 1911==&lt;br /&gt;
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During the car chase Gunner uses a 1911 that looks alot like the one's used by Thomas Jane in The Punisher (2004). It was black with a silver compensator. Anybody else see it? [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guns Appearing on the &amp;quot;Choose Your Weapon&amp;quot; Poster ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Boy, Ross fires his handgun so fast that until I read about it here I thought it might have been some kind of machine pistol!&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway, the poster I first saw for The Expendables was the one with the chrome skull in the center surrounded by guns and knives in the shape of wings, which some have suggested is meant to evoke the Guns &amp;amp; Roses poster (maybe...). I'm kinda surprised that that poster wasn't used for this article (more appropriate here than the one used currently) and I was hoping to see the guns in it identified. Could anyone do just that (The original poster would appear alongside an annotated version with a list of firearms)? Here's some pictures I found:&lt;br /&gt;
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And here someone even made a mockup using gun images from places like this site:&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/tutorials/how-to-create-the-expendables-winged-skull-poster-art How To Create The Expendables Winged Skull Poster Art]&lt;br /&gt;
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:The very first section of this talk page is a listing of the weapons featured in that poster. This was the relevant info already posted above:&amp;quot;-Barrett M107 with SUSAT (?!) Scope -M16A1 -C8 with M203 -G36 with AG36 -No idea -Shorty Remington 870 / Masterkey -MP7 -Mk. 23 -Model 29 -Steyr M9A1 -Beretta M9 with front cocking serrations -SVI Infinity -Beretta 93R -Desert Eagle -A fuckload of knifes --yocapo32 03:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)&amp;quot;. Someone later clarified that it's an ELCAN C79 scope not a SUSAT. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 08:30, 3 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Oh, Jeez, I skimmed this page way too quick looking for a mention and to be &amp;quot;sure&amp;quot; it wasn't covered, searched for the term &amp;quot;poster&amp;quot;, thinking it would be included in any discussion. Sorry.&lt;br /&gt;
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::But anyway, I still think it would be a better poster to use on the article page and think there really should be an annotated version too. And a big bag of money would be nice.&lt;br /&gt;
:::You got my vote. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 13:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Barney's Kimber - Possible Spoilers==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it possible that his Kimber's used double stacked magazines? I bought it at midnight, watched it, rewatched the speed firing bit at the end several times, and it seems like everytime he empties a magazine and reloads, he's firing fourteen to fifteen times. The time he fired both, he fires twenty six times and reloades, considering it'd be bad to go off with two rounds. Consistent with a double stacked .45 magazine. I couldn't see how many times the weapon cycled, but the sound was definitely fourteen shots. I'd also feel the need to point out that on several occasions, he fired only a few rounds at a time from one pistol, but it would be possible that he reloaded off screen. Especially given the speed he shows with his reloads. Movie magic, or some realism to a typical yet totally awsome, film? - Mikey&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is it Just me ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Or is something wrong with the front sight on this thing? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 10:53, 24 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No, it is just a hooded sight, indicating that it is the Chinese version of the AK, the Norinco Type 56. --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 10:57, 24 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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