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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Call_of_Duty_3&amp;diff=313432</id>
		<title>Call of Duty 3</title>
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		<updated>2010-08-14T00:32:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Venom3945Marine: /* Kar 98k */&lt;/p&gt;
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'''The following weapons are used in the video game ''Call of Duty 3'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cod3_box.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Call Of Duty 3'' (2006)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Pistols =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Standard sidearm of the Allied Forces. It is only available in multiplayer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1911A1]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CoD3_M1911.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The M1911A1 in-game.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Walther P38]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Standard sidearm of the German Forces. It's only available in multiplayer.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther P38 9mm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Rifles=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[M1 Garand]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
The main rifle of American forces. Used in almost all of the American levels.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1 Garand]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Garand cod3.png|thumb|none|400px|M1 Garand as seen in game.]]&lt;br /&gt;
== [[M1903 Springfield|M1903A4 Springfield]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
The sniper rifle of the Americans. Available in 'The Forest' and 'Chambois' levels. Used by a soldier to snipe a German radio op in the cutscene to 'Crossroads'.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rifle_Springfield_M1903A4_with_M84_sight.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1903A4 Springfield]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Kar98k]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
The Service rifle of Axis forces. The scoped version is only availible in 'The Island' level. Note that in multiplayer levels, the safety is always depicted in the &amp;quot;ON&amp;quot; position, which obviously should render the weapon unable to fire.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Karabiner_98k_made_in_Czechoslovakia_530.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kar 98k]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tur3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kar 98k 7.92x57mm Mauser with Zeiss ZF42 scope]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:-K98k 3.png|thumb|none|400px|Kar 98K as seen in game.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Gewehr 43]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
German semi-automatic rifle. Only seen in the 2 forest levels.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:K43 nc.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Gewehr 43]] 7.92x57mm Mauser]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Lee-Enfield No. 4 MK. I]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
The Service rifle of British, Canadian and Polish forces. Used as a sniper in 'The River' level.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LeeEnfield4Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Lee-Enfield No. 4 MK. I]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Support Weapons =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== M1918A2 Browning Automatic Rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by American support gunners. Used in 'The Island' and 'Chambois' levels.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BAR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Bar 3.png|thumb|none|400px|The B.A.R. as seen in game.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Sturmgewehr 44]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Appears in the game as the MP44. Used by German support gunners, mostly seen in the last missions of the game.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mp44.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sturmgewehr 1944(Sturmgewehr 44, Stg-44, or MP44]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mp44 3.png|thumb|none|400px| Sturmgewehr 44 as seen in game.]]&lt;br /&gt;
== [[FG 42]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Seen on German soldiers in the second mission and scoped versions can be found in a few levels.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FG421stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[FG 42|FG42]] in 7.92x57mm Mauser]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FG42.jpg|thumb|none|400px|‎FG 42 7.92x57mm Mauser early version with ZF4 scope (top) and late-war version with ZFG42 scope (bottom)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Bren LMG ==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by the British, Canadian and Polish forces.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Bren_mk2.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Bren Mk2 - .303 caliber]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Submachine Gun=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Thompson]] M1A1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
Used in almost all of American levels. Uses an incorrect 20 round magazine. (20's were issued to paratroopers)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1sb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1A1 Thompson]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cod 3 thompson.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1A1 Thompson as seen in game.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[MP40]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
The Submachine gun of German forces.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP40.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP40]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mp402.png|thumb|none|400px|MP40 as seen in game.]]&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Sten]] Mk. II ==&lt;br /&gt;
Main SMG for the British and Canadian armies.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unitsten2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sten Mk II 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cod 3 sten.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sten MK II as seen in game.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Shotguns =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Winchester Model 1897]] &amp;quot;Trench Gun&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by the British and American forces.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:1897.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1897 12 guage militarized]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cod 3 trench.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1897 ''Trench Gun'' as seen in game.]]&lt;br /&gt;
= Rocket Launchers =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Panzerschreck]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
The anti-tank weapon of the German forces.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tank_h5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Panzerschreck]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== M9A1 Bazooka ==&lt;br /&gt;
The anti-tank weapon of the American Forces. Used to destroy armored cars and tanks in the &amp;quot;Chambois&amp;quot; level.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M9bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M9 Bazooka 2.36&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Handgrenades =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Mk 2 hand grenade]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
The standard hand grenade of the Allies in the game.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MK2_grenade_DoD.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mk2 Handgrenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Model 24 Stielhandgranate]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
The standard hand grenade of the Axis forces.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:24-43_grenade.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Model 24]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[M18 Smoke Grenade]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Used as camoflauge.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M18red.jpg|200px|thumb|none|M18 smoke grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Machine Guns=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Mauser MG42]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Not a weapon that you can carry around the game. Mounted machine gun of the German Forces&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MG42.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG42 7.92 x 57mm Mauser (8mm Mauser)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[ Browning M1919]]A4 ==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by support gunners of the Allied Forces in Multiplayer Mode. Also seen in the last two levels and is seen mounted on Sherman tanks.  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1919A4Browning.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M1919 .30-06 on M2 tripod]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M1919 3.png|thumb|none|400px|M1919A6 Browning as seen in game.]]&lt;br /&gt;
== [[MG34]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by support Gunners of the Axis Forces in Multiplayer mode. It is also Mounted on Tiger and Panzer tanks.  It can be used in 'The Mace' level.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG34]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:-Cod 3 mg34.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG-34 as seen in game.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== [[Vickers]] K==&lt;br /&gt;
Seen mounted on SAS jeeps.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:British vickers k.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A SAS jeep with Vickers K machine guns.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=See Also=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Call of Duty franchise'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Call of Duty]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Call of Duty: United Offensive]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Call of Duty: Finest Hour]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Call of Duty 2]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Call of Duty 2: Big Red One]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Nintendo DS Version)]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Call of Duty: World at War]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Call of Duty: World at War: Final Fronts]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Call of Duty: World at War (DS)]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Modern Warfare 2]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[Call of Duty: Black Ops]]''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Video Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:War]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:First-Person Shooter]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Venom3945Marine</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Enter_the_Matrix&amp;diff=309807</id>
		<title>Enter the Matrix</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Enter_the_Matrix&amp;diff=309807"/>
		<updated>2010-08-05T03:01:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Venom3945Marine: /* Cobray Street Sweeper */&lt;/p&gt;
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'''The following weapons appear in the video game ''Enter the Matrix'':'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Enter_the_Matrix.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Enter the Matrix'' (2003)]]&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Cobray M11/9==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[MAC-10#Cobray M11/9|Cobray M11/9]] appears in the game being used by both rebels and SWAT officers in the Sewer levels.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M11 2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Cobray M11/9 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Cobray Street Sweeper==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Armsel Striker and variants#SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper|Cobray Street Sweeper]] appears in some levels, such as the Sewer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CobrayStreetSweeper.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Cobray Street Sweeper 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Mossberg 500 series shotgun#Mossberg 590 Cruiser / Compact Cruiser |Mossberg 590 compact cruiser]] is another shotgun that appears in the game, most notably seen sitting on a table in a cutscene during the Sewer level where Ghost or Niobe (depending on who the player chooses) is loading up to aid other rebels being pursued by SWAT.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MossbergCompactCruiser.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser 12 Gauge]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==SIG-Sauer P229 Sport==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P229 Sport|SIG-Sauer P229 Sport]] appears as Ghost's primary handgun. It's always dual-wielded.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:P229s.jpg|thumb|none|300px|P229 Sport 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Beretta 9000S ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Beretta 9000S]] appears as Niobe's primary handgun in the game.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Beretta 9000.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 9000S 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Desert Eagle==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Desert Eagle]] appears in the game as the primary weapon used by the Agents. It can only be obtained after killing agent. Called the &amp;quot;.50AE pistol&amp;quot; and holds 8 rounds instead of 7 rounds. The .44 magnum version holds 8 rounds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Desert-Eagle.jpeg|thumb|300px|none|Desert Eagle .50 AE]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Glock 18C==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A fully automatic [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] can be found in a few missions. As with other pistols in the game, it too can be dual-wielded.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Glock18c 01-1-.jpg|thumbnail|none|300px|Glock 18C 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2]] appears in the game as a weapon frequently used by the SWAT officers. Ghost also employs one of these weapons when riding shotgun in the car chase levels.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5.jpg|thumbnail|none|350px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K]] appears only in the Xbox version of the game (jokingly referred to as the &amp;quot;MP5X&amp;quot;). It can be found in the Sewer and Power Plant levels.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Barrett M82A1 Sniper Rifle==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Incorrectly called the &amp;quot;M95&amp;quot;, the [[Barrett M82]] is used by SWAT snipers. It holds an incorrect 18 rounds per magazine instead of the 10 rounds in the real weapon. The [[Barrett M95]] is in fact the bolt action bullpup version of the Barrett M82.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M82a1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Barrett M82A1 .50 BMG]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP]] is a commonly used weapon in the Merovingian's mansion and at the power plant. It seems to be equipped with an unusable C-More red dot sight like what the Twins used in ''[[Matrix Reloaded, The|The Matrix Reloaded]]''. Interestingly enough, the Twins also pursue Niobe and Ghost as they're escaping the Merovingian's mansion, one of them firing on the two with a UMP just as seen in the aforementioned film.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:UMP_45.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Springfield Armory M1911A1 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[M1911 pistol series#Springfield Armory M1911 - A1|Springfield Armory M1911A1]] appears in the Merovingian's mansion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SpringfieldArmoryM1911.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Springfield Armory M1911A1 .45 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== M16 Rifle ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[M16 rifle series#M16 Rifle|M16 rifle]] appears in the game being used by SWAT, though is rarely seen. It appears to be a somewhat anachronistic Vietnam-era model, similar to those used in the famous lobby shootout scene of the [[Matrix, The|first film]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumbnail|none|350px|M16 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MG36 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36#Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MG36|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MG36]] appears in the game being used by SWAT, though is rarely seen. It uses a Beta-C dual drum magazine, yet only contains 60 rounds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MG36.jpg|thumbnail|none|350px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MG36 5.56x45mm with Beta-C drum magazine]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== SIG SG 552 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[SIG SG 550#SIG SG 552|SIG SG 552]] appears in the game being used by SWAT, though rarely seen. It holds an incorrect 60-round magazine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SIG SG552.jpg|thumbnail|none|350px|SIG SG 552 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Colt Mustang ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Colt Mustang]] appears as the main sidearm used by security guards in the Post Office.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CM1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Mustang .380 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Beretta 92FS ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92FS]] appears as a common pistol on most levels, used by police officers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image: BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK33 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK33]] appears in the game fitted with a scope and bipod, used by SWAT snipers. It uses an incorrect 18-round magazine, as opposed to 25 rounds in the real weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:HK33w25rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK33 with 25rd Magazine 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Milkor MGL==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Milkor MGL]] can be found on a rooftop during the Chinatown level.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MMGLMk1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Milkor MGL 40mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Power Plant Methane Gun ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the power plant your character picks up what he calls &amp;quot;some sort of grenade launcher&amp;quot;. Sparks says it is a &amp;quot;cholobromo methane gun used to get to fires when a fire extinguisher can't get to it&amp;quot;. It fires a pressurized C02 cartridge that robs the fire of oxygen. A little side effect is it causes human lungs to fill up with water, drowning them. Be warned that if it is fired to close to an object in front of it you will fall victim to it as well. The game calls it a &amp;quot;[[GP-series grenade launcher#GP-25|GP-25 Launcher]]&amp;quot;. It has a pistol grip and a carrying handle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== M240B Machine Gun ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[FN MAG#M240 Machine Gun|M240B machine gun]] can be seen in the hands of one of Soren's men in the Airport level. It can only be obtained with a cheat code. It holds 120 rounds and is equipped with an unusable bipod.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M240-1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M240B machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Flintlock Pistol==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While in the Merovingian's mansion, the player will occasionally see antique armor and weapons on display, including at least one [[flintlock pistol]]. These weapons cannot be used, though the display cases containing them can be destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TowerSeaServicePistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Flintlock pistol .55 Caliber]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== M7 CS Gas Grenade ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In one part of the post office level, police officers throw several [[M7 CS gas grenade]]s into the room Niobe is in, trying to flush her out, though she escapes by performing a long jump over a police-filled hallway.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M7A3.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M7 CS gas grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== M67 Hand Grenade ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In some levels the player can use [[M67 hand grenade]]s. these weapons are incorrectly shown with a blinking red light on them moments before detonating.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Baseball.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== M84 Stun Grenade ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In some levels (such as the airport), SWAT and the player can utilize [[M84 stun grenade]]s to disorient each other.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:M84stun.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M84 stun grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Video Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:The Matrix]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Martial Arts]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Enter_the_Matrix&amp;diff=301448</id>
		<title>Enter the Matrix</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-16T22:47:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Venom3945Marine: /* Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''The following weapons appear in the game Enter the Matrix'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Enter_the_Matrix.jpg|thumb|right|270px|Enter the Matrix (2003)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Cobray M11/9]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by both rebels and SWAT officers in the Sewer levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:M11 2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Cobray M11/9 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P229|Sig P229 Sport]]==&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P229|Sig P229 Sport]] is Ghost's handgun. It's always dual-wielded.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:P229s.jpg|thumb|none|330px|P229 Sport 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Beretta 9000S]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Niobe's Primary handgun.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Beretta 9000.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 9000S 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Desert Eagle|IMI Desert Eagle]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by the Agents. Can only obtain it after killing agent. Called the &amp;quot;.50AE pistol&amp;quot; and holds 8 rounds instead of 7 rounds. The .44 magnum version holds 8 rounds.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Desert-Eagle.jpeg|thumb|380px|none|Desert Eagle .50 AE]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18C]]==&lt;br /&gt;
A fully automatic [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] can be found in a few missions.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Glock18c 01-1-.jpg|thumbnail|none|350px| Glock 18C 3rd Generation. 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Commonly used by the SWAT.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MP5.jpg|thumbnail|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5A2 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch MP5K]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Appears only in the Xbox version of the game (jokingly referred to as the MP5X). Can be found in the Sewer and Power Plant levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Barrett M82|Barrett M82A1]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Incorrectly called the 'M95', the [[Barrett M82|M82]] is used by SWAT snipers. Holds an incorrect 18 round magazine. The [[Barrett M95]] is in fact the bolt action version of the [[Barrett M82|M82]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:M82a1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Barrett M82A1 .50 BMG]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP]]==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP|UMP]] is a commonly used weapon in the Merovingian's mansion and at the power plant. It seems to be equipped with an unusable reflex sight like what the twins used in ''Matrix: Reloaded''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:UMP_45.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch UMP]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Springfield Armory Professional 1911 ==&lt;br /&gt;
Only appears in the Merovingians mansion.&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[M16A2]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by SWAT and rarely seen. Fires automatic instead of 3 - round burst like it's supposed to.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumbnail|none|400px|M16A2 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch G36]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by SWAT and rarely seen. Uses the 90 round Dual Drum magazine yet only contains 60 rounds.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:G36.jpg|thumbnail|none|400px| G36 5.56x45mm ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[SIG SG 552]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by SWAT and rarely seen. Holds an incorrect 60 round magazine.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image: SIG SG552.jpg|thumbnail|none|400px| SG 552 5.56x45 NATO]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Colt Mustang]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Used by security guards in the Post Office.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:CM1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Mustang .380 ACP]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Beretta 92FS]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
A common pistol on most levels, used by police officers.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image: BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK33]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Fitted with a scope and bipod, used by SWAT snipers. Holds an incorrect 18 round magazine. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:HK33w25rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler &amp;amp; Koch HK33 with 25rd Magazine 5.56x45mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Milkor MGL]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Can be found on a rooftop during the Chinatown level.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MMGLMk1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Milkor MGL 40mm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Power Plant methane gun ==&lt;br /&gt;
In the power plant your character picks up what they call 'some sort of grenade launcher'. Sparks says it is a cholobromo methane gun used to get to fires when a fire extinguisher can't get to it. It fires a pressurized C02 cartridge that robs the fire of oxygen. A little side effect is it causes human lungs to fill up with water, drowning them. Be warned that if it is fired to close to an object in front of it you will fall victim to it as well. The game calls it a GP-25 Launcher. It has a pistol grip and a carrying handle.&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[FN M240]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
Seen in the hands of one of Soren's men in the Airport level. Can only be obtained with a cheat. Holds 120 rounds and is equipped with a bipod.&lt;br /&gt;
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== M7 CS Gas Grenade ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In one part of the post office level, police officers throw several [[M7 CS gas grenade]]s into the room she's in, trying to flush her out, though she escapes by performing a long jump over a police-filled hallway.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:M7A3.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M7 CS gas grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== M67 Hand Grenade ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In some levels the player can use [[M67 hand grenade]]s. these weapons are incorrectly shown with a blinking red light on them moments before detonating.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== M84 Stun Grenade ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In some levels (such as the airport), SWAT and the player can utilize [[M84 stun grenade]]s to disorient each other.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:M84stun.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M84 stun grenade]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Video Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:The Matrix]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Martial Arts]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Predators (2010)</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-16T21:20:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Venom3945Marine: /* Just seen it (spoiler warning!) */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==anyone seen this yet?==&lt;br /&gt;
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wondering if its any good  -k9870&lt;br /&gt;
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nm, noticed its out next week&lt;br /&gt;
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adrian brody really doesnt look right for the part--[[User:Smish34|Smish34]] 23:21, 8 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I think only when weve seen the film can we say, i never would have chosen him, my choice would have been Josh Brolin. But from the film makers point of view 'we could never get anyone to match Arnold' so they've gone down the same route as Predator 2 with Danny Glover.--[[Special:Contributions/86.21.136.74|86.21.136.74]] 23:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
 Original film was the best. Sequels and spin-offs're just BS.&lt;br /&gt;
:Eh, Brody has all of the components of being badass, but hes just...adrian brody. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
Brody plays the part very, very well. He acts like a badass, he fights like a badass, and he is just, generally, a badass. Sure, in the trailer, he doesn't look the part, but by the end of the movie, you've forgotten that he was a wimpy author in Kong, you've forgotten that he was a wimpy Jew in the Pianist. He's just Royce. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 23:34, 15 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed, but i cant get the jew/author out of my head when i saw the movie. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Danny Trejo isn't armed with uzi's, watch the HD trailer, they are clearly MP5K's (about 40 seconds into the trailer look at him in the group shot) --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 23:13, 25 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== youtube content==&lt;br /&gt;
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if you go onto the predators youtube page, there are interviews with robert where he show sneak peeks of the characters, and there are some fantastic images of danny trejo using his mp5k's that concludes this characters weapons. there are also images of isabelle's, royce's and even some of nolans weapons. &lt;br /&gt;
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Adrien Brody was a good choice. I mean, most soldiers aren't as big as Arnie, most are just wiry but still really tough.&lt;br /&gt;
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== How do you know about the guns? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have checked and I haven't seen any trailers up. Can someone tell me where are the info for these guns from? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Check out www.predators-movie.com for a sneak peek and there is also a trailer out on the 18th of March.&lt;br /&gt;
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From the script which was released over the net some months ago and from behind the scenes photos which were released back in January. If you want to get the up to the minute latest, check out AvPGalaxy.net and its forums.--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 19:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It doesn't matter, almost all the ones that i always take are pretty awful. --[[User:Dillinger|Dillinger]] 01:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.predators-movie.com/]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here's a link if you guys are interested, there's a quite a few good shots of the guns in the video and the trailer will be released on March 18th.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:03, 14 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please, pleaSE, CAN I PUT SOME SCREENCAPS THAT I HAVE FROM THAT VIDEO. --[[User:Dillinger|Dillinger]] 17:44, 14 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sorry Dillinger.  I'm replacing some of your caps. Just wanted to warn you ahead of time..... :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:11, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators 9.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Your original Screencap]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators11a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The new screencap]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Predators 10.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Your original Screencap]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators12a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The new screencap]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Minigun? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw some new screenshots from SXSW, and the minigun looks ...well, mini. Can it be a XM214 Microgun? That, or the dude carrying it must be HUGE. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 20:13, 15 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry but there is no way in hell that it's a XM214 Microgun. Personally i would love to know who built the weapon as this makes a possible seventh real handheld Minigun made for cinima. Other than Kurt Russel and the man in Revenge of the fallen, everyone using a handheld Minigun in film has been huge with Arnold being 6'2&amp;quot; and 240#, Jesse Ventura being 6'5&amp;quot; andf 250#, I'm not sure how big bill duke is but he is not a small man. Plus Miniguns are not as physically big as most people seem to think. I have physically picked one up and without the ammo and power system they are small. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 20:35, 16 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe it's forced perspective then, because I know Jesse Ventura is a huge guy, and &amp;quot;Ol' Painless&amp;quot; looks a lot larger in his hands than the Predators minigun. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 20:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
You got that right as having seen a RL minigun and having spoken with someone who has handled a RL XM214 there are none in film. The XM214 is a tiny weapon that you can easily hold in one arm. think about the lenght of an M4 carbine. .22 longrifle minigun prototypes are about the lenght of a P90. From the looks of the weapon in question I would like to watch it expell brass to estimate what they have geared the weapon down to.&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen a minigun in a meuseam, it's actualy pretty small. BTW, how do we know about the script? Did some one of the armorers on here see it and then post here?&lt;br /&gt;
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There was A LOT of forced perspective used in Predator to make the Minigun look more impressive.  There were more shots devoted to showcasing the weapon than the two guys carrying it.  There are some behind the scenes shots of Jesse carrying the weapon and it doesn't look so massive.  The M60 foregrip assembly also adds a fair bit of bulk to the weapon, which isn't present in any other incarnation of the Minigun.  In reality the overall length of a handheld M134 falls somewhere between an M4 and an M16. The XM214 is even smaller.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Royce==&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone able to ID royces pistol, id guess at a desert eagle based on size and the fact they were used by everyone i predator 1, danny glover in 2 and a few ppl in avp1. Also Royce using the AA12 may be a homage to concrete jungle the first spin off comic and book from the original where dutches brother used an auto shotgun to take out the first predator. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 03:00, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Based on the new screencaps i'd say it looks more like a custom 1911 variant - any ideas? --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 01:55, 18 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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looks like MEU SOC variant although I cant be sure&lt;br /&gt;
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Technically speaking, ''nobody'' in Predator used a Desert Eagle. Yes, they carried them as sidearms in holsters, but ''carrying'' and ''using'' are two different things. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 09:41, 23 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that is handgun is a kimber desert warrior&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:KimberDesertWarrior.jpg|thumb|none|350px|MEU(SOC) Pistol\Kimber Desert Warrior, .45 ACP.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Of Coarse!...A unknown 1911 and someone thinks its a Kimber Warrior, suprise suprise. Rail or no rail its a warrior, G-10 tactical grips or regular old wood grips and there is still someone somewhere that thinks it is a Warrior. But when it is all said and done it is very rarely a Warrior. --[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 00:53, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It appears to either be a 1911 variant, or a custom Desert Eagle which would be black with ivory/white plastic grips, which would be unique indeed, therefore, I assume that it's a 1911 variant. I don't think it's a Desert Warrior, though it does bare some resemblance to the Kimber Warrior II. If it's a 1911, it either has ivory grips, similar to the pistol in Heat, or it has white plastic grips, grips of the Warrior. There is no great picture of this gun, however, it appears to have something extended past the grip, so if it's a 1911, it's probable that it's a Kimber. We can't tell if it has rails or not, but it obviously doesn't have wooden grips. While there is no way of positively identifying this pistol yet, saying 'It can't be a Kimber and you're a moron for thinking it is' is completely unfounded. Unless you can provide evidence as to why you think it isn't a Kimber, other then the simple fact that people have been wrong about things being Kimbers before, your argument has no weight. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 08:03, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Number one, there is no such thing as a Kimber Warrior II...there is no II about it, it was built to military spec there for never got the &amp;quot;II&amp;quot; kimber safty. Number two, sorry I came off as a &amp;quot;Moron&amp;quot; but just because you can see a G-10 style grip doesnt make it a Warrior...and i din't say anything about it not being a Kimber...just the Warrior aspect of it because alot of people are quick to say its this 1911 or that 1911.  There are true custom 1911 out there and I like to keep a open mind and not just yell out &amp;quot;its a Kimber narf&amp;quot; --[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 00:53, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Firstly, I have no clue if there is such thing as a Kimber Warrior II, as I've never owned one, but was merely basing what I called it on the picture on the 1911 page which noted it as such. That, however, is irrelevant to the basis of this conversation, whether it is possibly a Kimber or not. Second, I never called you a moron, and I'm sorry if you took it that what. What I was implying is that you were being overly hostile and insulting by all but saying that it was impossible for the pistol to be a Kimber, simply because people have claimed that handguns were Kimbers before and were wrong. The word moron was in quotations. As I was saying in my first comment, however, I'm not arguing that the pistol definitely is a Kimber. To do so, with a gun that gets so little screen time in the trailers, before the film even comes out, would be neigh impossible. What I was saying, however, is that, contrary to what you claim, you didn't seem to be keeping an open mind about it. The other user posted that they thought it might be a Kimber Warrior, and you immediately attacked the idea, not because it isn't possible, but because of past preconceptions. Just because Kimbers aren't often used in movies don't mean that they never will. I'm not saying that immediately claiming that the gun is a Kimber on the actual page is correct, since it obviously wouldn't be. However, the user is fully allowed to say 'I think this pistol is a Kimber Desert Warrior', and borderline insulting him for it isn't a great way of handling it. Remember, part of this site is figuring out what kind of guns are used in the movies, and it's impossible to do that without making educated guesses. In this case, a Kimber Warrior isn't that bad of a guess, since the gun has an extended section of the mag past the grip, and the grip is of a G-10 style, as you said. Unless you have a better guess, simply saying that his is incorrect just because other people have maid similar guesses before is not valid. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 08:18, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I never said that it wasnt a kimber warrior and sorry for allowing it to be viewed that way...my original statement was more of a general statement towards the warrior being listed alot when it isnt even close (this one being very close but undetermined) like on the NCIS page and the Rise of Cobra page and few others for example. Sorry for causing the arguement.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone know who makes the tactical vest the royce character wore in the film? love that extra shell capacity. great movie too. holds up to the orig. imo.&lt;br /&gt;
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:It was simply a MOLLE vest with several pouches attached. Leapers makes a fairly inexpensive one. Oh and Royce's .45 actually had ACU patterned grips, but you only see a glimpse of them in the movie. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Miltec makes these vests in various colors they cost 40 dollars or something like that often used by airsofters&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cuchillo's (Danny Trejo) UZI's...==&lt;br /&gt;
It's pretty safe to say we ain't gonna see any UZI's in this.&lt;br /&gt;
I think we should remove the UZI section, because the UZI's described in the script have obviously been changed into two H&amp;amp;K MP5Ks, based on the trailer(s) and various production stills released on the internet (see below). It would be a bit silly for him to carry MP5Ks ''AND'' UZIs... Also some other weapons have been changed, e.g. Isabelle's (Alice Braga) Blaser was originally a Heckler &amp;amp; Koch PSG1 in the script.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds004.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Danny Trejo is holding two MP5Ks, not UZIs. It is highly unlikely he'll be having two UZI's strapped to his back, since the script only mentioned two UZIs (which have obviously been changed into two MP5Ks.)]] -- [[User: Warejaws|Warejaws]], March 29, 2010, 13:47 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I don't see why not if a more conclusive image can be obtained, BTW Isabelle's rifle was changed as soon as the teaser came out.--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 23:43, 30 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I dont think a sniper rifle is the best weapon to use ageist a predator.&lt;br /&gt;
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a sniper is useful, remember the first movie where two of them see it in the distance, then say they want to get close and get wrecked when they move up. Now imagine if they ahd two scoped rifles instead of mp5s. &amp;quot;There it is!&amp;quot; bang. bang. Movie over.&lt;br /&gt;
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Plus, she wasnt exactly preparing herself to be capture by a alian life form and then taken to a distant plantet where she would be hunted..She, instead prepared herself for basic military action here on earth against human rebels. Which a sniper rifle is very effective against human when in the hands of a sniper. [[Spades of Columbia]]&lt;br /&gt;
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true, but the only problem is finding it when it cloaked&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't think that would be too much of a problem for a sniper. Remember, they're hunters, too. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:52, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If, by hunters, you mean a collection of murderers, mercenaries, and other very violent people, then yes.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I'm talking about ''snipers''. Snipers are hunters, too. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 22:54, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Replaced Weapons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Predators was originally Predator 3 written in 1993, so probably the Weapons were changed with more modern Guns. One thing that bothered me was why replace a Micro Uzi with MP5k's. I guess the modern equivilent would have been the MP7.&lt;br /&gt;
:Probably because MP5Ks are much more common and easier to acquire than MP7s would be. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:03, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Cartels dont usually stroll around with super high tec wepons. A mp5 makes more sense than an mp7.&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree, look at No Country for old man, plus where would he even get a steady flow of ammo for a MP7.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 22:27, 15 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Just seen it (spoiler warning!) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just got back from it, it really was good, like predator 1 good. A few observations, Chuchillo (trejo) has a 1911 variant holstered at his back, and the black dude from the death squad also carries a 1911. A soldiers dead body is also seen gripping a 1911, they seem to be very popular in this film. Royce never draws his side arm so who knows what kind of 1911 variant it actually is. Royce appears to use FRAG 12 amunniton in his AA12 in the first encounter with the predators and Nikolai makes impressive use of a claymore mine. I think ive got away with that without giving away any spoilers. I was also very impressed to see Royce re filling the drum mag from his AA12 from the cartridges on his vest, and Nikolai even reloads his mini gun! Shame he doesnt appear to be able to hit fuck al with it. Its just a crime that no one called the preds ugly mother fuckers in this film, part from that it really was good.--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 22:24, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:So no &amp;quot;You ugly mother fucker&amp;quot; ? Damn, that's just the trademark line from a Predators movie [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:12, 9 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I love when the criminal is says to Chuchillo &amp;quot;come on give me a gun, you got two fucking guns, and you russian, you got a bigass gun give me something&amp;quot; You see all these holstered weapons and nobody gives him anything.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you were a soldier or special forces guy and you ended up in some weird jungle with a bunch of others like you and you see an convict wearing orange...would you give him a gun? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:04, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Compensators seem to be somewhat popular as well, as both Isabelle and Hanzo have them on their sidearms. The convict guy, he did a pretty good job for being armed with nothing a shank, though. And Royce... well, to put it simply, ''he's the new Dutch''. I didn't think he was right for the role, either, but boy, was I wrong indeed! All in all, I have to admit I like the AvP movies a ''little bit less'' now... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone else notice that Royce was armed with Billy's (from the origina Predator) huge knife, which he used on the hounds, I loved all the little nods to the old films ''Cummahn, Im right here! Kill me!'' --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 14:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think Adrien Brody was a good choice for the part. If you ever see a special forces soldier in person or pictures most of them are normal looking guys. Adrien Brody looked in shape. I think thy cast the roles very well in the movie.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 15:54, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Yakuza sword fight was just awesome. It was like the scene with Billy from the first movie. Taking off his shirt, telling the others to go and drawing his blade out to challenge the Predator, but unlike the first movie, we actually SEE a sword fight and it was epic as hell. This movie is far superior to either of the AvP movies. And though I wished they got a more cliche cast of actors, Adrian Brody did really well [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:55, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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-Tokarev? It looked single stack and about the same dimensions, and would make sense, didnt see any clear shots.&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought it looked like a Stechkin APS because of the long tapering barrel, tho he did only shoot it semi auto. The swordfight as pure genius, the wind in the grass was just awesome, theres always room for an old fashioned samurai face off --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 19:03, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Crap, I knew I recognized Brody's knife from somewhere, but I couldn't place it. I fail as a ''Predator'' fan... :( But, yeah, the sword fight was indeed awesome. BTW, since we're talking about things that could spoil the movie for someone who hasn't seen it, I added a spoiler warning to the title of this discussion. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 19:55, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Where were the guns that are listed in Nowlands base? I didnt see any of them? Surely if there were guns about the humans would have made off with them in the escape? Or maybe I was just being blind. There are some excellent shots of the AA12 on Imdb now by the way, not that we dont have enough shots of the AA12 but its a beautiful gun --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 01:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, the doctor twist was really ingenious. Also, did anyone notice that the bound Predator looked exactly like the original Predator from the first movie (identical helmet and all)? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:28, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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did anyone else notice that Brody didnt shoulder his AA12 once during this film. he always fired from the hip, maybe a lack in training given to the actors as he ment to be ex special forces? anon&lt;br /&gt;
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i love how he actually has them relaod, uses different ammo types and uses the light on his surefire forend. The bound predator was supposed look identical, they wanted a 'classic&amp;quot; vs super predtor battle.&lt;br /&gt;
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So...is it safe to assume that Cuchillo's side weapon was a shiney Colt .38 super, or is that being too speculative...and some what raciest? I did really like the movie and how all the Characters handled their weapons.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 00:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Cuchillo's sidearm was clearly a 1911 model, with ornate engravings, this makes me assume its a mark IV series 80 ( http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:ColtMkIVSilver_DeNiro_Machete.jpg ) similar to the ones we see in 24 (series 3), machete, and dean winchester's 1911 from supernatural. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 01:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I know right, pretty sweet side arm!...but would it be too presumptive to think a movie would be realistic enought to make Cuchillo's 1911 a .38 Super?--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 14:05, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It's possible (he never fired it, no need for blanks.) but unlikely.&lt;br /&gt;
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What movie were you watching? He shot an entire mag at rapid fire!--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 15:11, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No, he pulled and fired his 1911 on the Predator Hounds.[[User:Humanzie3|Humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, i was waiting for someone not anonymous to back me up.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 17:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'll vouch it as well,, Cuchillo definitely pulled and fired his pistol at an oncoming hound. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 06:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, Spades is right. Cuchillo definitely pulled his 1911 and shot numerous rounds at one of the charging hunting dogs. Sort of like Brody should have done, instead of grabbing his machete and cutting it in half. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 23:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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And there's nothing racist about Danny Trejo's character. He made a career being a method actor. He's spent prison time for robbery and drugs, so he knows exactly how to play a tough Mexican character. He pretty much invented that look and cliche [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was asking if I was being more raciest for assuming it to be a .38 super not for Trejo being cliche.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think caliber ascends beyond race, its just ammunition, and he did empty the mag the last time we see him alive, shame he didnt use his knife, you dont fuck with danny trejo and his knives --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 23:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldn't the Grenades be credited to Edwin instead of Noland...since Edwin is the one that technically used them ;)--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 23:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well if we are being really honest it was berserker predator (or jaws as i was calling him) that used them --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 02:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just wondering, I know Royce's machete was the same as used by Billy in Predator, but does anyone know what type of knife he keeps strapped to his vest, behind his shotgun shells? [[User:Acora|Acora]] 23:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I updated the names of the predators as they are credited and named for the upcoming action figures and making of book. They are listed as 'Falconer' predator - the super pred with the robo bird on his shoulder with the metal spikey mask. 'Tracker' predator, the one we se holding the hounds at bay with the 2 tusks on his mask, who makes friends with Nikolia. And the 'Berserker' predator the one with the jawbone on his mask who takes on the classic predator and fights royce in the finale. The classic predator was simply named as you would expect, classic predator --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 02:26, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown 1911==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[M1911 pistol series|M1911-type pistol]] is carried by Royce in a thigh holster.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royce's 1911 circled in red.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the big screen, there are some great close-ups. I'm pretty sure it is a Kimber Warrior; which is odd because of his tan shemagh scarf and vest, I'd think he'd carry a Kimber Desert Warrior. Weird. -- ST0NEFIELD&lt;br /&gt;
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-1911 style autos are so customizable that it could be anything, not necessarily a Kimber. Without a clear image of the stamps on the slide, it's not going to be possible to narrow it down to any specific 1911 model.&lt;br /&gt;
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Your not gonna get slide stamps as the pistol never leaves the holster, though based on the grips and odd magazine butt plate I too say kimber&lt;br /&gt;
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The Kimber Desert Warrior and Warrior are gimmicks by Kimber to make money off of the Pistol they produced to equip USMC (MARSOC) operators. The Warrior is supposed to be built to the same specs, and the Desert Warrior is the same with a brown paint job. Most real fighters would never field such a cartoon pistol.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks like it has a nickel or stainless steel finish. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 18:43, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can almost swear that it had a TRP style magazine well...you could only really see it when Royce grabbed the grip that one time during the entire movie.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Kimber are not the only ones that uses or has access to G10 grips...there are other 1911 makers that use that styling of grips.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 15:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mombasa uses what looks like a standered GI 1911 when he has Stans's shank to his throat.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 23:18, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Dead soldier with hole in his chest also had a 1911 with the slide locked back in his hands. Funny, they said he was supposed to be in Afghanistan but was wearing tiger stripe!&lt;br /&gt;
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--Cuchillo's sidearm wasn't &amp;quot;standard&amp;quot;. It was customized with some kind of ornate plating. -- [[User:Warejaws]] 19:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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ok...I think i have it, based on grip design and the magazine well that looked like a trp but not quit, i'm starting to think it might possibly be a Nighthawk Enforcer. Side by side without viewing marking stamps they look identical.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:05, 15 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Nicholai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]) uses a handgun of unknown make or model, after his minigun is destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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It looks like a Makarov, judging by the shape and size. But when we see it on Blu-Ray we'll get a better look.&lt;br /&gt;
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He fires of 8 rounds before the pistol runs dry. though we cannot be certain he has a ful magazine to start with most weapons in this movie didnt seem to have 'hollywood' magazine capacities - --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 11:29, 15 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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But so does the Tokarev and the Makarov, so this really doesnt narrow it down much more was my point --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 01:13, 16 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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adrian brody really doesnt look right for the part--[[User:Smish34|Smish34]] 23:21, 8 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I think only when weve seen the film can we say, i never would have chosen him, my choice would have been Josh Brolin. But from the film makers point of view 'we could never get anyone to match Arnold' so they've gone down the same route as Predator 2 with Danny Glover.--[[Special:Contributions/86.21.136.74|86.21.136.74]] 23:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
 Original film was the best. Sequels and spin-offs're just BS.&lt;br /&gt;
:Eh, Brody has all of the components of being badass, but hes just...adrian brody. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winchester]]&lt;br /&gt;
Brody plays the part very, very well. He acts like a badass, he fights like a badass, and he is just, generally, a badass. Sure, in the trailer, he doesn't look the part, but by the end of the movie, you've forgotten that he was a wimpy author in Kong, you've forgotten that he was a wimpy Jew in the Pianist. He's just Royce. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 23:34, 15 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed, but i cant get the jew/author out of my head when i saw the movie. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Danny Trejo isn't armed with uzi's, watch the HD trailer, they are clearly MP5K's (about 40 seconds into the trailer look at him in the group shot) --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 23:13, 25 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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if you go onto the predators youtube page, there are interviews with robert where he show sneak peeks of the characters, and there are some fantastic images of danny trejo using his mp5k's that concludes this characters weapons. there are also images of isabelle's, royce's and even some of nolans weapons. &lt;br /&gt;
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== How do you know about the guns? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have checked and I haven't seen any trailers up. Can someone tell me where are the info for these guns from? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Check out www.predators-movie.com for a sneak peek and there is also a trailer out on the 18th of March.&lt;br /&gt;
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From the script which was released over the net some months ago and from behind the scenes photos which were released back in January. If you want to get the up to the minute latest, check out AvPGalaxy.net and its forums.--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 19:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It doesn't matter, almost all the ones that i always take are pretty awful. --[[User:Dillinger|Dillinger]] 01:43, 18 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Here's a link if you guys are interested, there's a quite a few good shots of the guns in the video and the trailer will be released on March 18th.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:03, 14 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please, pleaSE, CAN I PUT SOME SCREENCAPS THAT I HAVE FROM THAT VIDEO. --[[User:Dillinger|Dillinger]] 17:44, 14 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sorry Dillinger.  I'm replacing some of your caps. Just wanted to warn you ahead of time..... :)  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:11, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators 9.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Your original Screencap]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Minigun? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw some new screenshots from SXSW, and the minigun looks ...well, mini. Can it be a XM214 Microgun? That, or the dude carrying it must be HUGE. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 20:13, 15 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry but there is no way in hell that it's a XM214 Microgun. Personally i would love to know who built the weapon as this makes a possible seventh real handheld Minigun made for cinima. Other than Kurt Russel and the man in Revenge of the fallen, everyone using a handheld Minigun in film has been huge with Arnold being 6'2&amp;quot; and 240#, Jesse Ventura being 6'5&amp;quot; andf 250#, I'm not sure how big bill duke is but he is not a small man. Plus Miniguns are not as physically big as most people seem to think. I have physically picked one up and without the ammo and power system they are small. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 20:35, 16 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe it's forced perspective then, because I know Jesse Ventura is a huge guy, and &amp;quot;Ol' Painless&amp;quot; looks a lot larger in his hands than the Predators minigun. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 20:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
You got that right as having seen a RL minigun and having spoken with someone who has handled a RL XM214 there are none in film. The XM214 is a tiny weapon that you can easily hold in one arm. think about the lenght of an M4 carbine. .22 longrifle minigun prototypes are about the lenght of a P90. From the looks of the weapon in question I would like to watch it expell brass to estimate what they have geared the weapon down to.&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone able to ID royces pistol, id guess at a desert eagle based on size and the fact they were used by everyone i predator 1, danny glover in 2 and a few ppl in avp1. Also Royce using the AA12 may be a homage to concrete jungle the first spin off comic and book from the original where dutches brother used an auto shotgun to take out the first predator. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 03:00, 17 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Based on the new screencaps i'd say it looks more like a custom 1911 variant - any ideas? --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 01:55, 18 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Technically speaking, ''nobody'' in Predator used a Desert Eagle. Yes, they carried them as sidearms in holsters, but ''carrying'' and ''using'' are two different things. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 09:41, 23 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of Coarse!...A unknown 1911 and someone thinks its a Kimber Warrior, suprise suprise. Rail or no rail its a warrior, G-10 tactical grips or regular old wood grips and there is still someone somewhere that thinks it is a Warrior. But when it is all said and done it is very rarely a Warrior. --[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 00:53, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It appears to either be a 1911 variant, or a custom Desert Eagle which would be black with ivory/white plastic grips, which would be unique indeed, therefore, I assume that it's a 1911 variant. I don't think it's a Desert Warrior, though it does bare some resemblance to the Kimber Warrior II. If it's a 1911, it either has ivory grips, similar to the pistol in Heat, or it has white plastic grips, grips of the Warrior. There is no great picture of this gun, however, it appears to have something extended past the grip, so if it's a 1911, it's probable that it's a Kimber. We can't tell if it has rails or not, but it obviously doesn't have wooden grips. While there is no way of positively identifying this pistol yet, saying 'It can't be a Kimber and you're a moron for thinking it is' is completely unfounded. Unless you can provide evidence as to why you think it isn't a Kimber, other then the simple fact that people have been wrong about things being Kimbers before, your argument has no weight. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 08:03, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Number one, there is no such thing as a Kimber Warrior II...there is no II about it, it was built to military spec there for never got the &amp;quot;II&amp;quot; kimber safty. Number two, sorry I came off as a &amp;quot;Moron&amp;quot; but just because you can see a G-10 style grip doesnt make it a Warrior...and i din't say anything about it not being a Kimber...just the Warrior aspect of it because alot of people are quick to say its this 1911 or that 1911.  There are true custom 1911 out there and I like to keep a open mind and not just yell out &amp;quot;its a Kimber narf&amp;quot; --[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 00:53, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Firstly, I have no clue if there is such thing as a Kimber Warrior II, as I've never owned one, but was merely basing what I called it on the picture on the 1911 page which noted it as such. That, however, is irrelevant to the basis of this conversation, whether it is possibly a Kimber or not. Second, I never called you a moron, and I'm sorry if you took it that what. What I was implying is that you were being overly hostile and insulting by all but saying that it was impossible for the pistol to be a Kimber, simply because people have claimed that handguns were Kimbers before and were wrong. The word moron was in quotations. As I was saying in my first comment, however, I'm not arguing that the pistol definitely is a Kimber. To do so, with a gun that gets so little screen time in the trailers, before the film even comes out, would be neigh impossible. What I was saying, however, is that, contrary to what you claim, you didn't seem to be keeping an open mind about it. The other user posted that they thought it might be a Kimber Warrior, and you immediately attacked the idea, not because it isn't possible, but because of past preconceptions. Just because Kimbers aren't often used in movies don't mean that they never will. I'm not saying that immediately claiming that the gun is a Kimber on the actual page is correct, since it obviously wouldn't be. However, the user is fully allowed to say 'I think this pistol is a Kimber Desert Warrior', and borderline insulting him for it isn't a great way of handling it. Remember, part of this site is figuring out what kind of guns are used in the movies, and it's impossible to do that without making educated guesses. In this case, a Kimber Warrior isn't that bad of a guess, since the gun has an extended section of the mag past the grip, and the grip is of a G-10 style, as you said. Unless you have a better guess, simply saying that his is incorrect just because other people have maid similar guesses before is not valid. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 08:18, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I never said that it wasnt a kimber warrior and sorry for allowing it to be viewed that way...my original statement was more of a general statement towards the warrior being listed alot when it isnt even close (this one being very close but undetermined) like on the NCIS page and the Rise of Cobra page and few others for example. Sorry for causing the arguement.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone know who makes the tactical vest the royce character wore in the film? love that extra shell capacity. great movie too. holds up to the orig. imo.&lt;br /&gt;
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:It was simply a MOLLE vest with several pouches attached. Leapers makes a fairly inexpensive one. Oh and Royce's .45 actually had ACU patterned grips, but you only see a glimpse of them in the movie. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Miltec makes these vests in various colors they cost 40 dollars or something like that often used by airsofters&lt;br /&gt;
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It's pretty safe to say we ain't gonna see any UZI's in this.&lt;br /&gt;
I think we should remove the UZI section, because the UZI's described in the script have obviously been changed into two H&amp;amp;K MP5Ks, based on the trailer(s) and various production stills released on the internet (see below). It would be a bit silly for him to carry MP5Ks ''AND'' UZIs... Also some other weapons have been changed, e.g. Isabelle's (Alice Braga) Blaser was originally a Heckler &amp;amp; Koch PSG1 in the script.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preds004.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Danny Trejo is holding two MP5Ks, not UZIs. It is highly unlikely he'll be having two UZI's strapped to his back, since the script only mentioned two UZIs (which have obviously been changed into two MP5Ks.)]] -- [[User: Warejaws|Warejaws]], March 29, 2010, 13:47 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*I don't see why not if a more conclusive image can be obtained, BTW Isabelle's rifle was changed as soon as the teaser came out.--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 23:43, 30 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I dont think a sniper rifle is the best weapon to use ageist a predator.&lt;br /&gt;
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a sniper is useful, remember the first movie where two of them see it in the distance, then say they want to get close and get wrecked when they move up. Now imagine if they ahd two scoped rifles instead of mp5s. &amp;quot;There it is!&amp;quot; bang. bang. Movie over.&lt;br /&gt;
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Plus, she wasnt exactly preparing herself to be capture by a alian life form and then taken to a distant plantet where she would be hunted..She, instead prepared herself for basic military action here on earth against human rebels. Which a sniper rifle is very effective against human when in the hands of a sniper. [[Spades of Columbia]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't think that would be too much of a problem for a sniper. Remember, they're hunters, too. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:52, 3 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::If, by hunters, you mean a collection of murderers, mercenaries, and other very violent people, then yes.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I'm talking about ''snipers''. Snipers are hunters, too. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 22:54, 5 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Predators was originally Predator 3 written in 1993, so probably the Weapons were changed with more modern Guns. One thing that bothered me was why replace a Micro Uzi with MP5k's. I guess the modern equivilent would have been the MP7.&lt;br /&gt;
:Probably because MP5Ks are much more common and easier to acquire than MP7s would be. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:03, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Cartels dont usually stroll around with super high tec wepons. A mp5 makes more sense than an mp7.&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree, look at No Country for old man, plus where would he even get a steady flow of ammo for a MP7.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 22:27, 15 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Just seen it (spoiler warning!) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just got back from it, it really was good, like predator 1 good. A few observations, Chuchillo (trejo) has a 1911 variant holstered at his back, and the black dude from the death squad also carries a 1911. A soldiers dead body is also seen gripping a 1911, they seem to be very popular in this film. Royce never draws his side arm so who knows what kind of 1911 variant it actually is. Royce appears to use FRAG 12 amunniton in his AA12 in the first encounter with the predators and Nikolai makes impressive use of a claymore mine. I think ive got away with that without giving away any spoilers. I was also very impressed to see Royce re filling the drum mag from his AA12 from the cartridges on his vest, and Nikolai even reloads his mini gun! Shame he doesnt appear to be able to hit fuck al with it. Its just a crime that no one called the preds ugly mother fuckers in this film, part from that it really was good.--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 22:24, 8 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:So no &amp;quot;You ugly mother fucker&amp;quot; ? Damn, that's just the trademark line from a Predators movie [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:12, 9 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I love when the criminal is says to Chuchillo &amp;quot;come on give me a gun, you got two fucking guns, and you russian, you got a bigass gun give me something&amp;quot; You see all these holstered weapons and nobody gives him anything.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you were a soldier or special forces guy and you ended up in some weird jungle with a bunch of others like you and you see an convict wearing orange...would you give him a gun? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:04, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Compensators seem to be somewhat popular as well, as both Isabelle and Hanzo have them on their sidearms. The convict guy, he did a pretty good job for being armed with nothing a shank, though. And Royce... well, to put it simply, ''he's the new Dutch''. I didn't think he was right for the role, either, but boy, was I wrong indeed! All in all, I have to admit I like the AvP movies a ''little bit less'' now... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone else notice that Royce was armed with Billy's (from the origina Predator) huge knife, which he used on the hounds, I loved all the little nods to the old films ''Cummahn, Im right here! Kill me!'' --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 14:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think Adrien Brody was a good choice for the part. If you ever see a special forces soldier in person or pictures most of them are normal looking guys. Adrien Brody looked in shape. I think thy cast the roles very well in the movie.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 15:54, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Yakuza sword fight was just awesome. It was like the scene with Billy from the first movie. Taking off his shirt, telling the others to go and drawing his blade out to challenge the Predator, but unlike the first movie, we actually SEE a sword fight and it was epic as hell. This movie is far superior to either of the AvP movies. And though I wished they got a more cliche cast of actors, Adrian Brody did really well [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:55, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone knows what the pistol Oleg was using?&lt;br /&gt;
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-Tokarev? It looked single stack and about the same dimensions, and would make sense, didnt see any clear shots.&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought it looked like a Stechkin APS because of the long tapering barrel, tho he did only shoot it semi auto. The swordfight as pure genius, the wind in the grass was just awesome, theres always room for an old fashioned samurai face off --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 19:03, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Crap, I knew I recognized Brody's knife from somewhere, but I couldn't place it. I fail as a ''Predator'' fan... :( But, yeah, the sword fight was indeed awesome. BTW, since we're talking about things that could spoil the movie for someone who hasn't seen it, I added a spoiler warning to the title of this discussion. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 19:55, 10 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Where were the guns that are listed in Nowlands base? I didnt see any of them? Surely if there were guns about the humans would have made off with them in the escape? Or maybe I was just being blind. There are some excellent shots of the AA12 on Imdb now by the way, not that we dont have enough shots of the AA12 but its a beautiful gun --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 01:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, the doctor twist was really ingenious. Also, did anyone notice that the bound Predator looked exactly like the original Predator from the first movie (identical helmet and all)? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:28, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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did anyone else notice that Brody didnt shoulder his AA12 once during this film. he always fired from the hip, maybe a lack in training given to the actors as he ment to be ex special forces? anon&lt;br /&gt;
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i love how he actually has them relaod, uses different ammo types and uses the light on his surefire forend. The bound predator was supposed look identical, they wanted a 'classic&amp;quot; vs super predtor battle.&lt;br /&gt;
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So...is it safe to assume that Cuchillo's side weapon was a shiney Colt .38 super, or is that being too speculative...and some what raciest? I did really like the movie and how all the Characters handled their weapons.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 00:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Cuchillo's sidearm was clearly a 1911 model, with ornate engravings, this makes me assume its a mark IV series 80 ( http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:ColtMkIVSilver_DeNiro_Machete.jpg ) similar to the ones we see in 24 (series 3), machete, and dean winchester's 1911 from supernatural. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 01:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I know right, pretty sweet side arm!...but would it be too presumptive to think a movie would be realistic enought to make Cuchillo's 1911 a .38 Super?--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 14:05, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It's possible (he never fired it, no need for blanks.) but unlikely.&lt;br /&gt;
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What movie were you watching? He shot an entire mag at rapid fire!--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 15:11, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Cuchillo never fired the 1911. Just his mp5ks.&lt;br /&gt;
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No, he pulled and fired his 1911 on the Predator Hounds.[[User:Humanzie3|Humanzie3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, i was waiting for someone not anonymous to back me up.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 17:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'll vouch it as well,, Cuchillo definitely pulled and fired his pistol at an oncoming hound. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 06:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, Spades is right. Cuchillo definitely pulled his 1911 and shot numerous rounds at one of the charging hunting dogs. Sort of like Brody should have done, instead of grabbing his machete and cutting it in half. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 23:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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And there's nothing racist about Danny Trejo's character. He made a career being a method actor. He's spent prison time for robbery and drugs, so he knows exactly how to play a tough Mexican character. He pretty much invented that look and cliche [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was asking if I was being more raciest for assuming it to be a .38 super not for Trejo being cliche.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think caliber ascends beyond race, its just ammunition, and he did empty the mag the last time we see him alive, shame he didnt use his knife, you dont fuck with danny trejo and his knives --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 23:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldn't the Grenades be credited to Edwin instead of Noland...since Edwin is the one that technically used them ;)--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 23:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well if we are being really honest it was berserker predator (or jaws as i was calling him) that used them --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 02:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just wondering, I know Royce's machete was the same as used by Billy in Predator, but does anyone know what type of knife he keeps strapped to his vest, behind his shotgun shells? [[User:Acora|Acora]] 23:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I updated the names of the predators as they are credited and named for the upcoming action figures and making of book. They are listed as 'Falconer' predator - the super pred with the robo bird on his shoulder with the metal spikey mask. 'Tracker' predator, the one we se holding the hounds at bay with the 2 tusks on his mask, who makes friends with Nikolia. And the 'Berserker' predator the one with the jawbone on his mask who takes on the classic predator and fights royce in the finale. The classic predator was simply named as you would expect, classic predator --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 02:26, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown 1911==&lt;br /&gt;
A [[M1911 pistol series|M1911-type pistol]] is carried by Royce in a thigh holster.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Predators7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Royce's 1911 circled in red.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the big screen, there are some great close-ups. I'm pretty sure it is a Kimber Warrior; which is odd because of his tan shemagh scarf and vest, I'd think he'd carry a Kimber Desert Warrior. Weird. -- ST0NEFIELD&lt;br /&gt;
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-1911 style autos are so customizable that it could be anything, not necessarily a Kimber. Without a clear image of the stamps on the slide, it's not going to be possible to narrow it down to any specific 1911 model.&lt;br /&gt;
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Your not gonna get slide stamps as the pistol never leaves the holster, though based on the grips and odd magazine butt plate I too say kimber&lt;br /&gt;
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The Kimber Desert Warrior and Warrior are gimmicks by Kimber to make money off of the Pistol they produced to equip USMC (MARSOC) operators. The Warrior is supposed to be built to the same specs, and the Desert Warrior is the same with a brown paint job. Most real fighters would never field such a cartoon pistol.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks like it has a nickel or stainless steel finish. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 18:43, 12 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I can almost swear that it had a TRP style magazine well...you could only really see it when Royce grabbed the grip that one time during the entire movie.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It did have a magwell like that. Just saw it. But you can get those after market to so dosent mean its a TRP 1911. The grips are Kimber tan ones. They just get dirty so kind look like ACU. Shame he never used it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kimber are not the only ones that uses or has access to G10 grips...there are other 1911 makers that use that styling of grips.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 15:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mombasa uses what looks like a standered GI 1911 when he has Stans's shank to his throat.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 23:18, 13 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah. It was standard with nickle finish. Pretty sure Cuchillo's was the same prop.&lt;br /&gt;
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Dead soldier with hole in his chest also had a 1911 with the slide locked back in his hands. Funny, they said he was supposed to be in Afghanistan but was wearing tiger stripe!&lt;br /&gt;
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--Cuchillo's sidearm wasn't &amp;quot;standard&amp;quot;. It was customized with some kind of ornate plating. -- [[User:Warejaws]] 19:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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ok...I think i have it, based on grip design and the magazine well that looked like a trp but not quit, i'm starting to think it might possibly be a Nighthawk Enforcer. Side by side without viewing marking stamps they look identical.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:05, 15 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think spades is right. Unfortunately we will never know unless we contact the armorer. =(&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unknown Handgun==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nicholai ([[Oleg Taktarov]]) uses a handgun of unknown make or model, after his minigun is destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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It looked like a Makarov to me. This naturally would fit his character.&lt;br /&gt;
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Look liked a CZ 52 standing in for a Tokarev. In fact, I'm almost positive it is. Same magazines with the holes on it when he reloaded it. Was way to angeled to be a Tokarev.&lt;br /&gt;
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It looks like a Makarov, judging by the shape and size. But when we see it on Blu-Ray we'll get a better look.&lt;br /&gt;
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He fires of 8 rounds before the pistol runs dry. though we cannot be certain he has a ful magazine to start with most weapons in this movie didnt seem to have 'hollywood' magazine capacities - --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 11:29, 15 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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But so does the Tokarev and the Makarov, so this really doesnt narrow it down much more was my point --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 01:13, 16 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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