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Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

2011-09-07T08:36:56Z

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==Discussion==

Oh God, another Call of Duty. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 17:05, 13 May 2011 (CDT)

AK74su-type(AKS-74u)weapon in screenshot as well as FN FAL similar to the one in Modern Warfare 2.

Visible in this screenshot

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/05/prague_resistance_rioter_civ_02.jpg

Also, there's some type of Sig Sauer pistol in this screenshot on the chest

http://betacache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/05/sas_lmg.jpg

Looks like the M18 Smoke Grenade returns. -[[User:1morey]] May 14, 2011 12:07 AM (EST)

I see a P90 lying on the floor in the premiere trailer, in what appears to be a subway station. Appears to follow the MW2 Design, with the iron sights instead of a built in red dot. -[[User:Timaman]] May 24, 2011 22:09 PM GMT+0

http://timaman.deviantart.com/art/Possible-P90-in-Mw3-210170147

I noticed what appears to be a holstered Colt 1911 on the UMP wielding SAS members right leg, you can see it just above where the picture finishes, at the bottom. [[User:Timaman|Timaman]] 09:08, 28 May 2011 (CDT)

:I saw that too, hopefully the MW1 1911 comes back, it better, but it also looks like it could be a P226 with wierd lighting. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 14:33, 28 May 2011 (CDT)

I hope they put an ejection port on the M4 this time.

== Title ==

This page should be moved to "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3" since that is the official title. Don't let the "Modern Warfare 2" page confuse you, that's fucked up also. [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 13:49, 13 May 2011 (CDT)

I also think that the title should be the official title, so I already changed it. --[[User:RaNgeR|RaNgeR]] 05:40, 14 May 2011 (CDT)

==Issues==

We have no confirmation from anyone that any of these images are legit. Should this page even exist? [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:19, 13 May 2011 (CDT)

I don't see any evidence proving to the contrary either. We'll live, if it's not legit, then it'll be taken off. Seems like an insanely elaborate hoax to basically render half of a game's weapon arsenal and create a ton of concept art, in addition to the images of the NPC skins and such. You could be right, but, in all likelihood... this is a leak of legitimate information.

If it is legit though, how do we know it's final? This could be a deliberate leak of outdated info and models. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 18:11, 13 May 2011 (CDT)

Even if it isn't final, it's still worthwhile to put in. The G3 was in a trailer for Modern Warfare 2, and the last time I checked, it was still on the imfdb page.

There is a update to this Modern Warfare 3 leak. Robert Bowling of Infinity Ward tweeted this: "A lot of hype & a lot of leaked info on #MW3, some still accurate, some not. To avoid spoiling the experience, I'd wait for the real reveal." So I'm guessing the leak IS legitimate [[User:SeanWolf]]

Well, as much as I think Bowling is a self-absorbed hipster, this is good. I assume the "tangible" pics and stuff like that are more concrete than some of the story details and map names "Plaza 2", was probably changed/cut. Either way, good for identifying stuff.

Oh god, the KSG. Here's hoping they use both of that weapon's mag tubes instead of restricting you to only one of them --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 23:02, 13 May 2011 (CDT)

I am a huge fan of the KSG. Yeah, I really agree with you there. Though, in the previous Modern Warfares, they've limited the M1014 to the capacity of a KAC Masterkey for balancing purposes. Wouldn't get my hopes up.

:My biggest fear with the KSG is how IW or whoever is really making it will make the KSG act in-game. My thought process tells me "Somehow, I think their gonna make it fire like a double barrelled shotgun, two shots at the same time". Given IW's creditability and COD's inaccuracy with real world weapons in game, this to me seems like a likely possibility. [[User:Draco122|Draco122]] 00:38, 15 May 2011 (CDT)

Yes, but, would it really be that noticeable? I mean, what would be the difference over firing one round? It's still a pump-action, so regardless, you'd still have to rack the pump back. They didn't make the Ranger shotgun or the Olympia fire both rounds at the same time, they're double barreled as well.
:You actually got two firing triggers when you use a single Ranger --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 09:12, 15 May 2011 (CDT)

Which is plausible, because it has two triggers on the real-world model. On the KSG, IF, big IF, they made it fire two rounds at the same time for some reason, they'd probably operate under the assumption that you're switching tubes between each shot. I don't know, just giving IW the benefit of the doubt for now. They don't seem to have messed up with any of their modern shotguns except in the realm of magazine capacity.

I might be the only one, but whats up with that weird aimpoint/ holographic sight combo on the M4? is that even possible?
: Yes, it is. EoTech makes [http://www.eotech-inc.com/product.php?id=50&cat=1 optics] specifically designed to be used in conjunction with their holosights. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 11:59, 28 May 2011 (CDT)
cool, I never knew that. Thanks

==Winchester Model 1887==
What in the name of God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit did they do to that shotgun. *Pukes all over keyboard*. I mean, I love CoD as much as the next person (I just look past the mistakes (Russians with Tavors, and TDI Vectors)), but THAT just looks ridiculous!!! - [[User:1morey]] May 14, 2011 12:09 AM (EST)

I mean, it's the "CoD Universe", IW can make the Russians use whatever weapons they want. It's no different/worse than Special Operations personnel using MP5k airsoft replicas [They did in MW2], or using MG4's for that matter, and ACR's. Call of Duty was never intended to be a military simulator, even less so starting to really become obvious with MW2 [A US Army General firing a revolver on the front lines]. However, on topic, the 1887 never should've been in the game in my opinion. There are plenty of shotguns, and IW seems to just copy and paste things from movies rather than being original. As for the depiction in MW3, at least they made the 1887 unique. Granted, it's silly, but for a game weapon... it's much more fitting to "tacticalize" it.
:Also as far as multiplayer is concerned, the removal of the enlarged loop means that you will no longer be able to flip cock it, therefore no longer able to dual wield... unless IW does it anyway which means that technically the player would be breaking their fingers every time they do a flip cock. [[User:Swamples|Swamples]] 17:10, 18 May 2011 (CDT)
:Yeah, gonna' have to side with you on that one. IW showers in the over the top, unoriginal, borderline plagiarism from popular movies. There's no logical advantage for them to include the 1887 unless it's able to be dual wielded. But, like you said, they may have tacticalized it to be a "modern lever-action shotgun", whilst taking out the dual wield capability. We'll see.
:I'd rather see them give us a nice lever-action rifle than the 1887 again. Not enough games have them, and it's not like "the army doesn't use them" is a valid excuse in a series where a military firing range has Deagles lying around. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 00:54, 19 May 2011 (CDT)

I'd rather them just scrap lever actions altogether. Certainly, the argument of "The army doesn't use them" isn't really relevant, perhaps the argument "No army would even consider using it" is more fitting. But when nobody uses an overall design archetype (Lever Action) in a tactical setting, it seems silly to include it as a shotgun or not. In other words, in my opinion, lever actions have no place in Modern Warfare both the game and the concept. 1887 should've never been in MW2, because it set a precedent that it was okay to put absurdly pointless weapons in CoD games.[[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 10:56, 21 May 2011 (CDT)

:Several armies not only considered using them but actually did. That's rather more than the number of armies which have ever considered using the WA2000 or Desert Eagle, which last I checked was zero. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:12, 20 May 2011 (CDT)

Which armies? Were they in this century? If not then it's irrelevant to the term "Modern". Most, if not all lever-action overall designs were prominent before the turn of the 20th century. No modern military uses lever-actions when they could just be using more modern semi-automatic weapons that operate on various methods (recoil/gas/etc).[[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 10:56, 21 May 2011 (CDT)

:Um, Russia was still using Winchesters right into WW1, and there's several modern designs like the Browning BLR. Most sniper rifles in military service are still manual actions (as opposed to marksman rifles, which are the semi-autos), they just tend to be bolt actions rather than lever or pump. Leverguns are just as common in military use as gas-operated rotating bolt pistols, $80,000 semi-auto rifles or off-axis blowback subguns (ie not), and more to the point, the setting of an invaded US means civilian weapons can be included within the setting. For example, you could have a level where you're a Marine who was on leave and only has his hunting rifle and his wits to make his way through enemy lines and assemble with his unit. Or given that such levels usually have a helper NPC, you're the Marine's kid who insisted on coming along to help fight the good fight. For bonus points, reveal halfway through the level that the kid is the Marine's daughter rather than his son; I'd pay good money to watch the forum fallout from that. "Kotick made me play as a GIRL! Now I have COOTIES!" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:17, 21 May 2011 (CDT)

:You do bring up a valid point, MW3 is based in an invasion US. Theoretically, they could add the civilian weapons for this reason, but CoD has always been a strictly military deal. But then again, MW2 involved an invasion US, and there were no civilian player-characters. Furthermore, "Russia was still using Winchesters right into WW1", this game is not in WW1 and warfare/technology has changed quite a lot since then. There is nothing modern about the BLR's design, save for some features that make it easier to use (Moving trigger/detachable magazine), and still... it's not used by -any- military, current or otherwise. Bolt action sniper rifles are just that, bolt action, not lever action, regardless I'm talking about service rifles/shotguns not high end sniper rifles. Lever-action weapons are not common in militaries of this century (21st) by any means. Lever actions should not be included in a modern military setting, year 2000 and beyond. There are no lever actions being used by any current formal military force as far as I'm aware, certainly not the ones we're talking about (NATO countries, Russians). They've got no place in modern warfare because the design has been outclassed by others, hence why they're not used. Even in Khyber pass bootleg weapons from Pakistan/Afghanistan, or South American countries, it'd be a stretch to see them using lever-actions... the design is -that- outdated.[[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 10:56, 21 May 2011 (CDT)

::Again pointing out that no military has ever used or considered using the Desert Eagle either. Or the SPAS-12. Or the TDI Vector. Or the WA2000. CoD's weapon list has been in la-la land since we had German soldiers with StG-44s at Stalingrad in the first game and hasn't really come back since then. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:00, 21 May 2011 (CDT)

:For different reasons. No modern military uses lever-actions because they're outdated. Desert Eagle, should never have been in the game, not saying it should. It's not used because it's not practical. TDI Vector, it's not used because it's new and the benefits are negligeble. WA2000, it's a trophy weapon which has a price-tag of a BMW and less than 200 were built, obviously not a choice. SPAS-12, used by various militaries around the world (Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh), in addition to SWAT/SRT teams around the world. The weapons you listed are not used for various reasons, not for being antiquated technology. You can't deny that IW put the 1887 in because it was "badass" in the Terminator movie, that's the only reason. The STG44 thing doesn't bother me, seeing as it was used in WW2, which is the timeframe in which the game was set, though in limited numbers later on in real life. However, the 1887 has no purpose in game or out. The Desert Eagle, has no purpose in real-life but it does serve a role in game (High Damage sidearm with low mag capacity). Thus, the Desert Eagle is tolerable, the 1887 is just pointless. Also, it's worthwhile to note that the section is titled "Winchester Model 1887", not "Weapons that shouldn't be in the game" thus I would focus on this weapon, rather than the others in the game that shouldn't be there in my opinion. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 12:53, 21 May 2011 (CDT)

:I'm not entirely sure why you're opposed to this, though; we've already got a laundry list of weapons no military would ever dream of using, so one more or less hardly matters. I'm saying I'd rather see a lever-action rifle than the 1887 again, since that would actually be a nice variation from the usual bolts and semi-autos and could be interesting for variation (levers being faster but harder to use while prone). I equally don't see the point of trolling out the antique shotgun again, this time with a stack of silly accessories on it that makes ''Black'' look positively restrained. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:50, 23 May 2011 (CDT)
::A lever-action rifle would have been a great idea in Black Ops, but not in the "Modern" Warfare games where they should stick with using the correct "modern" weapons that each country actually uses, plus some other '''sensible''' new age weapons. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 07:33, 23 May 2011 (CDT)
:My point is that the design incorporating a lever-action, has no place in any modern military setting, at all, shotgun or rifle included. It'd be akin to using a flintlock in a modern warfare video game, it's simply outdated technology on a design level that's no longer used by modern military forces. That is why I'm opposed to it, it's not like the TDI Vector or Desert Eagle not being used (For different reasons, which I explained in depth, none of which includes an outdated design) because they are both modern weapons that incorporate modern designs. Bottom line, if you want lever-actions, play Red Dead Redemption. Granted it's a video game and not a military simulator at that but IW putting in outdated weaponry simply because it was in a movie, when they are supposed to be working with pseudo-real world operators and scenarios, is silly. The tacticalized variant as shown in MW3 is certainly a step in the right direction, if you want a pristine replica of a beautiful antique weapon, again, Call of Duty is not the appropriate place to search for such and nor should it be. I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 11:12, 23 May 2011 (CDT)
::In what way is it outdated? Modern lever actions fire faster than bolt actions, can use non-tube magazines (even detachable ones) and thus fire pointed bullets, and are of comparable accuracy to bolt actions. Aside from issues with firing while prone (which are hardly impossible to deal with) they're not outdated in any sense of the term, certainly not to the extent a flintlock is. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:30, 24 May 2011 (CDT)
::Well, the issue of firing when prone is -highly- critical when compared to how modern-day bolt actions are used, mostly/all by snipers who fire from the prone position frequently. They are outdated as service rifles, like I said earlier in comparison to semi-automatic gas/recoil driven weapons. The main revolution of lever action was the rapid-fire aspect and magazine capacity (Compared to single-shot/clip-fed weapons of the era), which have all been outclassed by miles in reference to modern semi-automatic rifles. Like I said,''' agree to disagree''', not going anywhere. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 14:27, 24 May 2011 (CDT)
:::No, it's definately an issue of lack of will to do it rather than any technical inferiority. Armies are used to bolt actions in their manual rifles and don't see the need to change to weapons that have ''different'' advantages and disadvantages but don't offer a substantial overall improvement. It's hard enough persuading them to adopt things that ''do'' offer a substantial improvement, after all. Also, I have no idea why you keep bringing up semi-autos, not everything is a marksman rifle. I was never suggesting using a manual action weapon as a replacement for anything other than a ''different'' manual action. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 14:33, 24 May 2011 (CDT)
::Agreeing to disagree, could refute what you said with evidence/concepts but it's not going to do anything. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 14:43, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

==Barrett M107/M82 Error==

It seems IW thinks that there's some sort of bolt/ejection port, being visible on the left side of the receiver of the M107. As far as I know, the left side is flat and the right hand side has the bolt mechanism. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's like this in MW2 and not in CoD4.

To clarify, it seems that IW has made the M107 receiver open on both sides, rather than just having the bolt handle on the right. Probably should be corrected, but can be lived with. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 10:57, 21 May 2011 (CDT)

== Gunz ==

Is it just me or anyone else agrees that these guns are f#&king ugly? What did they do to that poor MP5A2? Not to mention the Winchester and the "AK-47". BTW the game will take place around 2012, yet the Russians will still use the "AK-47". Well, it is still better than them using U.S. guns, right? [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 04:26, 14 May 2011 (CDT)

How do you know the game will take place in 2012? If Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare took place in 2011, and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is 5 years later (2016), so how MW3, which is a direct sequel to MW2, taking place in 2012? --[[User:RaNgeR|RaNgeR]] 05:39, 14 May 2011 (CDT)
:Sorry, my bad, I thought COD4 was in 2007 since it was releases in that year. I knew that MW2 was 5 years later, thats why I wrote 2012. Anyways, that won't make the difference. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 06:32, 14 May 2011 (CDT)

Again, Call of Duty was never meant to be a military simulator. If you want realism, look at the Battlefield series and ARMA series. Call of Duty has always been a playable action movie, that happens to be based in a real-world (First 1-3, Black Ops, WaW) or fictional (Modern Warfare) war.

Russians have used AK variants since the late 1940's... that's over sixty years of use. What's so outlandish about them using it for another twenty? IW calls it an "AK-47" because that's what people identify as the general AK weapon pattern. It's a video game. How exactly is it better than them using US weapons? Many foreign nations use the AR platform, amongst other weapon systems designed in the United States. Hell, most of the United States' small arms are provided/designed by Fabrique Nationale, a Belgian company. As I said before, it's a "Call of Duty Universe", not an explicitly real world universe, IW has creative license to put whatever weapons in the hands of whatever faction they see fit.

As for the weapons, they look fine to me. Some have been tacticalized, yes, but it makes them unique to the game and in specific cases like the 1887, it makes it more plausible for an almost 130 year old weapon to be included in a Modern setting used by people who have access to better designed shotguns. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 10:58, 21 May 2011 (CDT)

I am wondering why we don't see an 870 or a Mossberg in these games? It's weird as well that they would include a really old gun like the 1887 but none of the pump actions. And the SPAS-12 doesn't count because it's been overused in this series to death. I bet for the ACR's reload animation, they are not going to have the model press a button to release the bolt. Most likely they'll just reuse the AK reload animation and have the shooting hand reach over and rack the charging handle [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:17, 14 May 2011 (CDT)

:For the sake of it, I do wish we could have a 870 or a Mossberg in-game, even if it was one of these "Starter" guns. I wouldn't care if it was "Tacticalized" or not, as long as it's there. I could somehow imagine in a perfect world following MW2 as an example, a Remington 870 MCS as a primary shotgun loaded with slugs and a Aimpoint Sight with the Bling Perk while using a Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser that was "Tacticalized" as a secondary shotgun loaded with Buckshot. [[User:Draco122|Draco122]] 00:43, 15 May 2011 (CDT)

Thank God they are bringing back a full size MP5. I am so sick of the MP5K. And what is up with the magazine on the M4? Is it supposed to be a 20 rounder or they messed up the design again? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 11:19, 14 May 2011 (CDT)

:Amen to that! Though somewhere in the back of mind, I sometimes think they're gonna add the MP5K back in as some "other" weapon, maybe if they were to stick to MW2 styling, I could imagine it as a Machine Pistol alongside maybe the PP-2000 and TMP. Also, I can't escape the feeling that IW is gonna try and copy Treyarch in some way by trying to copy Black Op's example with the AK(S)-74U and attach a grenade launcher to it. It would be awesome all the same though. [[User:Draco122|Draco122]] 00:55, 15 May 2011 (CDT)

Yeah, well at this point, I've just given up on reload animations in Call of Duty. I agree, I am stoked for the full sized MP5. As for the M4, no clue, could be to balance it somehow? But, these are probably early development screens, wouldn't put it on being concrete just yet. If a MW3 forum goes up, I'll see about getting a 30 round magazine back for the M4 as I did see the MW2 M4 in a few of the screens on the Kotaku locations video. Shotguns, yeah, 870 would be lovely but... I could care less, why use a shotgun when you've got 7.62x51

Seems like they're pretty covered on the shotgun front, except for a traditional 870 style. But, I am a bit worried regarding the LMG's. None shown. Banking on the M27 IAR. CoD4, M4 with Bandolier, Stopping Power, and Deep Impact on Hardcore was my impromptu IAR class, always loved the concept. Either way, would like to see the return of a M249 variant (Mk 46/Mk 48). [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 10:58, 21 May 2011 (CDT)

:I had heard rumours that the M249 was reappearing as a "Possible" returning LMG. But I had also heard that somewhere, IW was going to make three variants of MG's featured in Multiplayer. Ranging from Light Support type weapons similar to "Black Ops", with 30 round magazines like the HK21 or RPK or just modified assault rifles with a bigger magazine, as well as other LMG's and SAW's like the M249, with GPMG's being the M240 or the M60 and finally mounted HMG's like the Browning M2 fixed into certain tactical positions.

Source? Wouldn't get my hopes up for ADDING any weapon classes, at least until I saw proof. IW tends to want to simplify things, not divide things up and add diversity. However, even if they put all of those types into the overall LMG category, would be wonderful. M27 IAR, Mk 46/48, RPD, PKM, MG3, M240L are my top choices.

However, sniper rifles are a subject of concern for me as well. MW2 including ONE bolt-action? This was a fatal flaw for me, the M40A3 was so much fun to use and the Cheytac kind of sucks. They've got a good lineup of sniper rifles here, RSASS, M107, EBR, but no bolt-action. RSASS is a good move because I've always wanted an SR-25 type weapon in CoD. They need a Russian sniper rifle of course and a few bolt actions (M40A5 or XM2010, Desert Tactical SRS (Bullpup bolt-action), and L115A3 would be all good choices). In addition, I've always wanted to see a Mk 12 SPR sniper rifle in CoD, something that did low damage but had a high magazine capacity. Would be great for Hardcore. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 10:58, 21 May 2011 (CDT)

very exciting looking at those leaked pics....and i gotta say its a nice line-up of guns so far...some old standard ones (M4, AK-47; M107) and some new ones i've never seen before like that KSG or the Magpul FMG (OMG the box gun from Robocop2!!!). Also i'm very glad to see the old 203 gone in favor for the newer M320! The AA-12 is cool but i didnt like it in MW2...it was just not that usefull because the boxmag so was spent within a second. the 20round drum mag would make so much more sence.
I really hope they bring back the M249, preferebly as the Mk46 or even Mk48 and introduce some new Russian MG like the PKM with the Blackwater-Rail System.
One question though: is the KSG something very special or simply a bullpup pump-action shotgun? [[User:WARthog|WARthog]] 07:20, 16 May 2011 (CDT)

Ugh, again with the sporterized AK's, dont suppose they actually look at what the Russians use.

:The Russians have been looking at AK's with various rail systems. Take a look at the AK-200. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/05/27/ak-200-rifle-the-21st-century-ak/. Regardless, it's Call of Duty, not a simulator by any means. The AK in MW3 looks to be a step in the right direction over the airsoft-inspired replica in MW2. The KSG is a pump action shotgun which features the use of two tubes, doubling the capacity of a normal shotgun in this configuration and gives the operator the ability to switch tube magazines once one is expended (Due to magazine capacity laws). But in practice, it features a 14+1 magazine capacity, which is astounding when compared to normally configured shotguns like Remington 870's. Also, it features a twelve and I believe six o'clock rail for mounting of accessories. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 10:58, 21 May 2011 (CDT)

:If it's got a six o'clock rail, does that mean we'll be able to stick a Masterkey on it and have a shotgun with a back-up shotgun? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 00:59, 19 May 2011 (CDT)

The KSG is a pump-action shotgun. If you did put an underbarrel-type shotgun on it, then you wouldn't have enough room to pull the pump back enough to eject a shell. Besides, that would be unnecessary and impractical. The KSG had two magazine tubes, so if you needed a breaching round, beanbag round, or etc. instead of buckshot, then you could just switch the feed over to swap from lethal to nonlethal. A question about the MP5, what differences are there between the Navy and A2 model? Other than the lower receiver being metal with a new trigger group instead of synthetic with a German fire selector layout. The MP5 in MW3 looks like a Navy model but I'm guessing there's a reason someone changed it to A2. Just wondering if I was wrong. And how do I automatically leave a sig at the end of my messages? xD new to the site. -

:You use the masterkey as the pump, silly. It's genius! (Or rather, it's no less silly than some of the things the series ''has'' done in the past). Leaving a sig is four tildes (~) in a row. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:27, 19 May 2011 (CDT)

:But if you used the masterkey then it would take up all the ro- oh I see what you did there. And thanks for the sig help. [[User:Scutshakes|Scutshakes]] 01:34, 19 May 2011 (CDT)

:Plus, any under-barrel attachments have been confined to the Assault Rifle class, and more recently, the AK74su "SMG" in Black Ops, which in real life... is still an Assault Rifle. Shotguns have no precedent in CoD for having under-barrel attachments of any sort. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 10:58, 21 May 2011 (CDT)

Can someone help me identify the weapon the guy on the front-right is holding? Looks like an RPD or RPK to me http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/wtfisthisk.jpg/ --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 20:44, 23 May 2011 (CDT)

: Pretty sure that's the RPD, yep. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 21:21, 23 May 2011 (CDT)

Only not-yet-seen weapons I saw during the trailer were the P90 at 0:32, FAMAS at 0:35, UMP at 1:04, RPD at 0:52, and an unknown weapon with a flashlight at 0:55, looks to be a bullpup of some sort. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 21:38, 23 May 2011 (CDT)

: The weapon at 0:55 looks like an AUG to me. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 08:11, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

My thoughts exactly, or a Tavor. The barrel looks too thick to be either though, might be a flashlight/suppressor? [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 20:10, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

==HELL YEAH==

the guns are supposed to look rusty and mangled and outdated because its a fully urban war environment like homefont

i think the new model looks badass in a stealthy black camo

does anyone know if these pictures have been confirmed to be real

: Robert Bowling said that the leaks were mostly accurate, likely alluding to the fact that they're from an early build of the game. So some stuff might've changed, but this is what we know so far. What model are you talking about specifically? I don't really see rusty and mangled anywhere, the weapons all look pretty pristine to me. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 16:35, 22 May 2011 (CDT)

==The tossed magazine doesnt look right==
In the newest trailer I noticed that a soldier tosses a magazine to the player but it's easy to see that you cant see any bullets in the top of it. I don't know that much about M4A1 magazines. Is there a door that opens when it's inserted into the rifle, did the devs over-look this or what?

: Probably due to either being lazy or being an early build of the game. IW's track record is so-so for magazines, on a normal AR-15 magazine, there are two lips at the top of the magazine and the rounds feed through them. The magazine will spend most of the time in game, being lodged in the weapon, so it's not really that big of a deal to me personally. But you are correct, the magazine model doesn't look 100% accurate. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 14:06, 27 May 2011 (CDT)

Thanks. The real world acuracy and high detail in the MW games is what sets them apart from all the other games based on modern combat. I hope that was just an eary build.

Sorry Anon, but no, if you want real world accuracy play something like ARMA, or even Battlefield, but not COD. The weapons either aren't handled properly, or have thing on them that would never be, or are mounted wrong, or are used by people who never would, or have stats that don't work for the real weapon at all, or are out of scale, and they STILL havn't added +1 in the chamber. For better or for worse COD is a playable action movie, and the graphics literally havn't been changed since COD4. I can't really comment on 1, 2, or 3, but MW fits your description well, it's not a military simulator, but it was quite good. WAW was okay, but it was pretty much just the COD4 Marine missions for the whole game, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot etc. MW2's singleplayer was good but not amazing, there was too much that was just a little too far fetched, and a few glaring plotholes. MW was like a war movie (Saving Private Ryan/Black Hawk Down/etc.), but MW2 is an action movie, that's why it wasn't up to par with MW in my opinion. BO had potential for a good singleplayer, but the had a serious, conspiracy filled plot, and tried to make it a bad ass action movie at the same time, and those don't go together very well. COD games have good potential, but it always seems to get wasted. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 15:07, 29 May 2011 (CDT)

==Plot Holes==
So the campaign takes place in (from what appeared in the leak) New York, France and Germany. Besides the massive stupidity of Russia invading the U.S. East-to-West. How would Russia manage to fight it's way through Poland, Belarus, the Ukraine, the Baltic states and the Czech Republic into Germany AND then through Belgium and Holland to get into France. At this point, I think even China would be over-extended watching over eight modern, democratic nations and be fighting a a war with two of the strongest of these plus the U.S. But at this point Activision could release a fifteen minute demo and it'll still sell millions of copies. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 22:16, 23 May 2011 (CDT)

A possible explanation is that in their new found "ultra-nationalist" rage, they take over or make a new alliance with all the former warsaw pact countries. That would explain a few things on the man power problem, a possible explanation is that similar defense system breaches occur in the attacked areas (like in MW2 DC got waylayed pretty early). Maybe NATO got complacent with the Russian threat and signed a non-aggression pact(WWII). Still I agree with you there is no way in hell they could attack NYC, Germaney, England, and France all at the same time having already attacked the eastren seaboard in Mw2. Seeing as CoD is the 10 ton ape in the consumers eyes, it really wont matter.--[[User:N-10 Aden|N-10 Aden]] 01:44, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

::The plot for London getting attacked is (or atleast was) that terrorists funded by the Russians attack London. The SAS raid part of the Docklands (I think that is East London) where the Russian terrorists are, but basically end up chasing them all over London, ending with a gun fight infront of Parliament (surely we'd also see one of the Guard regiments as well, since they're both in London?). Whilst I'll let the "London's Burning" bit of the plot slide as it is plausible (if ''very'' unlikely), I agree, the rest doesn't seem to make sense. But hey-ho, this is CodMod, where reality takes a back seat so that we can enjoy bombing around in Berlin, Paris, NYC and London... [[User:Spanner|Spanner]]

== Guns ==

I like the way few of currently known guns are going. AK-47 looks a lot more like rifle that Russian Army may use some time. It has cheapest Crane Stock and not one of most espensive ones (Yeah, Vltor one is expensive as fuck) and handguard is basically one ris rail on each side with rail covers. Not full plastic handguard. G36 is plain and easy which is both suprising and awesome. M4 seems like its pretty cheap too. I like that Czech Vzor 61 is back, hope it will be in hands of Czech partisans. Anyway, few guns are ugly like fuck. For example that winchester or MP5.

Well, game will suck like all of those "new" CoDs from World At War to Black Ops. But it will be atleast a bit interesting. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 15:04, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

: I don't understand what you mean by "cheap". There's nothing wrong with Crane stocks... The AK in MW3 doesn't even have a Crane stock, it's a standard LE stock, which is a good stock. You don't need a Vltor stock to shoot a weapon accurately. AK rails don't have to be crazy railed hanguards like in MW2, which was largely inspired by an airsoft weapon. See Travis Haley's one-off MAG-K from Magpul, using the Ultimak rail system. The cost of a component doesn't effect how it behaves in game, or in real life for that matter, it's reliability and effectiveness that count. What's wrong with the handguard with a rail on each side with rail covers? That's generally what rail systems are. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 15:13, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

:: Yes, i know. Thats what i meant. Any army on world (especially Russian) would hardly put shitload of ris rifles on their weapon and overpriced stocks. By cheap, i meant cheaper than MW2.

: I still don't understand what you mean by cheaper. How? Like, in real world money costs? In aesthetic looks? The Russians are putting different rail systems in their modern AK's, see my AK-200 link from Firearmblog. Russia has arguably one of the most powerful and modern militaries in the world, what would discourage them from placing RIS rails on their service rifles like everyone else? Tapco, the company that makes the rail system and stock adapter for the AK in MW2 is one of the cheaper companies in terms of quality and price, Tapco still makes good stuff regardless. Just confused as to what you mean by cheap. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 14:09, 25 May 2011 (CDT)

: No one else ticked off that in any of the videos or demos present, there have been NO new guns? Granted, the AA-12 has a new skin, and so does the MP5, but no drum mags for the AA-12? And to be fair, I preferred the MP5K. But seriously, in MW2's Cliffhanger demo, there was tonnes of new weapons and attachments shown, like the ACR, FAMAS and the new AK. But so far, the only "new" guns that were leaked in images haven't been shown. I'm really disappointed in that. [[User:TheTrueNight|TheTrueNight]] 12:12, 14 June 2011

== Pistols ==

Am I the only one completely pumped for the P99 and P226? Hopefully both are usable and rendered well. I tend to get more excited over the pistols rather than assault rifles in video games.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 23:15, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

: Nope, you're not the only one. I'm ''slightly'' disappointed that they seem to be going with the 1st-gen model, but otherwise, I'm hoping for the execution, so to speak, to be superb and the rest of the game to be worth 60 bucks. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 23:25, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

I'm looking forward to seeing the SIG pistol too. Always had a soft spot for German guns. I hope it's usable and not just part of a character model ... [[User:Scutshakes|Scutshakes]] 23:33, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

: Looking forward to both, and more. Preferably the USP and M1911. M1911 was epic in MW1 and in MW2 they took it away from multiplayer, and in Black Ops they made it black in singleplayer and chrome in multiplayer for some silly reason. Hopefully they got the silver/chrome out of their systems with the P99 already. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 13:36, 25 May 2011 (CDT)

Part of me says "Yes! A game that you can fire a P99 and it's NOT James Bond." Another part of me says that Hand Guns, unless automatic, serve no perpise in todays FPS world. Oh I miss the Golden days.[[User:PP7Silenced|PP7Silenced]] 14:55, 29 May 2011 (CDT)

:That's funny, since I PWN most people in FPS' who have Assault rifles or Submachine guns with my '''semi-automatic''' handguns, especially in MW1 with my USP45 :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 21:53, 29 May 2011 (CDT)

::I agree, COD4's USP was amazing. In COD4 handguns were how game handguns should be. Most people suck with them, but if you get good with pistols, they kick ass. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 22:16, 29 May 2011 (CDT)
:::Yeah, most people in WM1 waste a whole pistol mag by rapid firing at me (even with a Desert Eagle!) and I just double-tap them in the chest, end of story. One time I ran into three guys at the same time in a small room and I just wiped them all out in seconds and then two more showed up (one had a SAW!) and I rapidly took them out before they could fire a single shot. All in all, I wiped out five guys with a my USP45 in about 10 seconds! That's why my friends nick-named me Vincent, you know, from the movie [[Collateral]], because I can take down multiple people very quickly with a USP45. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 01:44, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

::::I start to get annoyed in most FPS when the pistols are severely underpowered. Like in Black Ops- in reality a few shots from the 1911 would put somebody down, but I've had instances where it takes one and a half magazines. I still agree that MW1 got the pistols right, and IMO it is the best CoD to date.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 12:25, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

Thats what I did when I sniped in CoD4. Since I suck at sniping, i usually got more 1911 kills than R700 kills. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 12:36, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

I agree, COD4 had pistols right, amongst other things. I am a bit worried about the Machine Pistols continuing from MW2, it's not fun going against snipers who are so well armed. A sniper should have a pistol and his rifle, that's it... not an Uzi... especially not a Raffica that's essentially an M16. Snipers in video games should be confined to long range, with their pistols being used for defense. In MW2, snipers use their MP's to assault positions and run around as if they had an SMG. This isn't cool. Regardless, I think they need to make sniper rifles less of a close range deal. People pride themselves on using the Intervention at close range, and using the M40 ACOG to no-scope. This is so against what those two weapons are designed for I can't even think straight. But, this's off topic. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 18:48, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

Arg, yes, I HATE quickscoping soooo much, but yeah, the balance to snipers is they only get a pistol, so they (are supposed to be) stuck to long range fighting. Oh, and I hope shotguns are better, not like MW2 1887 better, like MW1 W1200 better. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 20:43, 30 May 2011 (CDT)
:The funny thing is that real US snipers use a M16 or a M4/M4A1 as they're backup weapon for they're sniper rifle along side a possible M9 pistol which would be a backup, backup weapon. :/ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:07, 1 June 2011 (CDT)

::Don't quite see how relevant this is. As I've said before, CoD isn't a simulator. Also, I distinctly said "Snipers in video games should be confined to long range, with their pistols being used for defense", in a paragraph and in a section regarding MW3, a video game, in order to defuse any realism comments. It's simply not fun/balanced, in my opinion. In real warfare, yeah, there's really no room for fairness... but it's a game that can be adjusted to be the most fun for everyone. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 16:19, 1 June 2011 (CDT)
:::I know, just say'n. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 17:07, 1 June 2011 (CDT)

:I understand that quickscoping takes skill, but it still makes me sooo mad. I think that they should find a way to limit sniper rifles to long range only. Anyway, back on topic, I realized that Quantum of Solace actually got the pistols right too. Two or three shots from a 9mm puts someone down and one to two from a .45. This might be because the game really focuses around the P99 and other pistols more than rifles/submachine guns.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 21:09, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

:Doing something that's silly can still take skill. Putting my hand in the mouth of a Shark and yanking it out again without a scratch takes skill, but it's still silly. Skill can't be the sole factor in weighing an action's legitimacy. There should be no ACOG option for any sniper rifle, especially bolt actions. Period. I'd be in favor of making a 6x or Variable Magnification scope available for sniper rifles (and assault rifles in the case of the former). My point is not that quickscoping is done, it's that IW has created a game in which it's possible. It needs to be made impossible. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 19:36, 1 June 2011 (CDT)

::Very well said, it is not legitimate because it takes skill, you might as well put Rock Band gameplay in and FPS if you think like that. COD may ot be a simulator, in the sense of what people use, unlikely events, etc, but every FPS needs to have the weapons used properly, in a technical sense, and so you can't snipe with a compact pistol, or quickscope, etc. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 20:12, 1 June 2011 (CDT)

It would be so nice to see a stealth mission where you sneak into a complex (probably as price and soap) to kill a leader and you have to sneak through hallways and vents with suppressed P99's with a fellow soldier like in Prypiat in COD4. WHY cant this happen. It would be a nice change of pace and not feel like a straight rip off of All Gilled Up like Contingency did in MW2.[[User:PP7Silenced|PP7Silenced]] 14:37, 06 June 2011 (CDT)

:These are nice additions, but I'm still hoping for an XD or XD(m) -- preferably in .45 caliber. :P [[User:Rhainor|Rhainor]] 18:03, 20 August 2011 (CDT)

== M4A1 ==
Is it possible that the soldier catching the magazine could be holding a [[Armalite AR-10|AR-10]] 7.62x51mm rifle? Since the developers finally learned about magnifiers maybe they think they could make a hybrid sniper/assault rifle by using a bigger bullet? I just don't see a reason why soldiers would be using 20 round 5.56 magazines unless they figured out it bigger magazines don't work well in prone. Plus we do see that fire selector switch on semi? I personally think it's a AR-10 with a shortened barrel.
:Sorry dude, but the mag is too small to be a 7.62x51mm, it's defiantly a 556'er. So it's a goof on IW's part, at least for now. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr.
Wolf]] 08:31, 25 May 2011 (CDT)
::Here's a thought, in Black Op's they modelled some guns with Extended Magazines when the "Extended Magazines Attachment" was added, perhaps IW has done the same? Maybe the 30 rounders are extended mags, while they revert to 20 rounders for default? [[User:Draco122|Draco122]] 12:05, 25 May 2011 (CDT)
:::Well that's just dumb. :/ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 14:02, 25 May 2011 (CDT)
::::And yet they made it so that an M4A1 could carry 45 round magazines without changing the magazine on the model in MW2. [[User:Draco122|Draco122]] 12:15, 27 May 2011 (CDT)
: Yeah, there's no way it's an AR-10. They've already got something similar to an AR-10 in the RSASS, which is akin to the SR-25/M110. Draco, my thoughts as well. It still doesn't make sense, but if extended magazines show up on the gun as a 30 rounder, would work. That in my opinion, is Black Ops' greatest contributing to CoD, taking abilities away from perks and adding them to attachments. Example, the taped/dual magazines in Black Ops, gave a slightly faster reload time and added more ammunition in total. This took an emphasis off of having Scavenger to last any long period of time and allowed people to balance Bling and Sleight of Hand.

: Furthermore, everyone seems to think that IW is making a system whereby one folds down the 3x magnifier and uses the EOTech singularly and vice versa. I really think IW will be using an EOTech as a separate attachment, and a magnified EOTech as its version of an ACOG. I have yet to see a picture with a regular ACOG, correct me if I'm wrong. By all means, it would be preferable to have it behave like in real life where you could use both or the EOTech in different instances, but sadly I think IW may just be saving on development time by combining the two. However, what I think is more likely/logical is for them to include a traditional RDS/Reflex, and an ACOG, while including the EOTech with magnifier as one attachment to make it different from the RDS.

: IW could also be making the M4 with a 20 round magazine because they want it to -act- like a 7.62x51 NATO, i.e. be more powerful, so therefore they'd have to balance the ammunition capacity. IW is notorious for making weapons with silly statistics, like the SCAR-H being 7.62x51 NATO and having a very small amount of recoil on full-auto.

::I doubt that. :/ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 14:05, 25 May 2011 (CDT)
:::If anything, it seems the most logical explanation for them making a 20 round magazine standard on the M4. The M4 was one of the weakest assault rifles in MW2, so it's logical that they'd try and up the damage on it and offset this increased damage with a smaller magazine/semi-automatic fire rate. It's still silly, but IW isn't dumb. They may not be well known for making a realistic game, but balance is kind of their forte, even if it's manifested by making weapons have odd properties. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 14:13, 25 May 2011 (CDT)
::::You know what, It would be really funny if IW made the 20-round magazine hold 30 rounds anyway, lol. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 14:48, 25 May 2011 (CDT)
:PS - There is a picture of the MP5 with an ACOG from CoD4 in the leaked pictures from Kotaku, assuming this won't be in game. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 13:45, 25 May 2011 (CDT)
:Yeah, that's because they're comparing the MW3 MP5 with the MW1 and 2 MP5s. [[User:Scutshakes|Scutshakes]] 05:14, 26 May 2011 (CDT)
::That's also why I put that PS there, it's a toss up between a comparison and including them as variants. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 14:21, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

== Cover Art ==
What is that the dude is holding on the cover art? It first glance I thought it was a TAR21 or something similar, but now I'm thinking its an M4 of some sort, but with an AFG Magpul grip attached instead. Could someone clear this up for me? --[[User:Timaman|Timaman]] 14:09 25 May 2011 (GMT+0)

: Yeah, it's just an AR variant with an AFG on it. It seems that IW has received a lot of sponsorship from Remington and Magpul, so it's possible that the AFG may be included as an attachment, though that's very doubtful. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 13:37, 25 May 2011 (CDT)

: Ahh, its nice to choose having a grip, but choosing the actual grip model is a luxury we will probably never have in CoD. Ironicy, it is one of the thigns I want MW3 to deliver, weapon customization like in Army of Two 40th Day. That was/is a BEASTLY game for weapon customization. Like PMG on console. [[User:Timaman|Timaman]] 12:26, 26 May 2011 (GMT+0)

:: I think COD's decent enough in terms of weapon customization, one step they could take is allowing Bling Pro to give you three attachments (Not including M203/Masterkey in my opinion) and add a few more attachments that were in Black Ops and ones that aid in recoil/accuracy that aren't sights. Or, the more preferable solution in my eyes, is to separate attachments from perks altogether. In other words, get rid of Bling and just give people the ability to customize their weapons. There's no invisible wall preventing one from putting attachments on a weapon in real life. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 20:08, 27 May 2011 (CDT)

::: Yeah, it worked for Brink afterall. just make it so having a grenade launcher stops you using throw lethal grenades, or stops you from having a first perk, simple as. [[User:Timaman|Timaman]] 09:12, 28 May 2011 (CDT)

== MP5SD2 ==

I think there was '''NO''' MP5SD in the reveal trailer. The COD wikia has it wrong. [http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Call_of_Duty:_Modern_Warfare_3] It is a normal A2 with a suppressor, unless the SD2 has rails around the built-in suppressor. Well, this game is pure sci-fi so, I don't know.... [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 14:29, 25 May 2011 (CDT)
:Without agreeing or disagreeing (I'm indifferent toward this game at the moment), I don't see anything that would prevent IW from sticking rails on an MP5SD if they wanted. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:37, 9 June 2011 (CDT)

== Err... Guys? ==

Just remember that there's still no guarantee this is even getting released, depending on which way the pending lawsuit goes. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 03:20, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

*I imagine it'd come out regardless, just without the Modern Warfare brand if Activision loses. You know, like it was going to be with FEAR 2 being just "Project Origin" before Monolith bought the franchise from Activision. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 03:27, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

::But if Activision loses, and can't use the MW brand, doesn't that also include, and mean they can't use the characters either? Like Price and MacTavish? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:48, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

:::I don't think so, even when it was "Project Origin" FEAR 2 was going to have Alma in it. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:52, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

::: If it is being pushed through to November, it's going to be released. Activision wouldn't risk losing their baby of a franchise to go out like that, they aren't dumb. COD games come out every Holiday season like the sun rises and sets. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 14:27, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

== Flip-Up Sights ==

The german magazine GameStar did a preview on the game, apparently IW and Sledgehammer showed two levels of the game in London. And they write something about "flipping up sights" as a new feature. It isnt explained what this means exactly, nor is there any picture/video material of it, but it could be a hint about it. [[User:Killerpixel|Killerpixel]] 09:20, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

:They're probably talking about that magnifier; I guess that means you really can control if it's used or not (D-pad function, perhaps). Games magazines can usually be relied on to get every piece of firearm terminology they try to use wrong since they learned gun terminology from video games. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:24, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

::They actually use the german term for Flip-Up sights, so i dont know. I posted the question in the comment sections, maybe i'll get an answer. But even if it's the magnifier, still an improvement. [[User:Killerpixel|Killerpixel]] 09:42, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

:::The minute I posted this, I got a response. You are right, she means the magnifier. [[User:Killerpixel|Killerpixel]] 09:44, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

: Either way, seems to be an improvement. Thanks for the info! [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 14:23, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

== Samopal Vzor 58 ==
In Prague level (Czech Republic), Russian soldier can be seen holding an AK type gun that seems like Samopal Vzor 58. Off course its most probably just wrongly lighted AK-47, but it may sense that he captured it from Czech Army as it takes place in Czech Republic.

[[File:Samopal Vzor 58 MW3 probably.JPG|thumb|left|200px|Well, it would have been really awesome if IW included this rare weapon.]]

[[Image:800px-Sa 58-JH01.jpg|thumb|left|400px|'''Czech Sa. vz. 58P''' ''(Pěchotní aka "Infantry")'' with fixed stock - 7.62x39mm]]

Just look on it - It seems to lack AK ejecting port, it may lack top-mount RIS rifle and gas block looks shorter. Also, body looks almost tiny compared to 7.62 magazine.

:: There's already an AK variant/format weapon that's not of Czech design, IW wouldn't put another in just for kicks. What you're likely seeing is a lack of modeling, or lighting as you indicated, for example the M4 in MW2 didn't have an ejection port simply because it's a mirror image in terms of a weapon model, laziness on IW's part. As for the magazine, the mags have always been a bit oversized on MW AK's, but they're not ridiculous. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 15:31, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

== New Weapons Confirmed ==

From reading several previews posted 5/26/2011, multiple games press have confirmed a few weapons. Modern Warfare 24/7 has a list of these previews here (http://www.modernwarfare247.com/news/first-mw3-previews-screens) while the one that details the weapons by name are found here (http://aggregame.com/news/2011/05/26/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3-preview/). Weapons confirmed in closed doors preview include: AK-47, P90, M4A1, Spas-12, AT-4, and XM-25. The XM-25 has been called the "sniper rifle that shoots grenades" or "a nod to the crossbow" in other previews. Also confirms the usage of a "hybrid" sight mixing acog and red dot and its use. Lastly, theres a "9-bang" which is a "cluster bomb" of flashbangs and/pr stun grenades that you throw (I don't know if that one is a real life thing but someone who's more versed in gun/warfare knowledge confirm please). Please update main imfdb page accordingly.--[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 15:51, 26 May 2011 (CDT)DaiTaNam

: Modernwarfare 247 is notorious for labeling firearms inaccurately, they did so with MW2 on several weapons before correcting it after the game came out. There's nothing in the Modernwarfare 247 article that says XM-25, but either way, it's not a sniper rifle by any means. Would be a cool inclusion if it's in. Dunno what the 9 bang thing is, stun grenades and flashbangs are increasingly irritating, I don't think they need to be made better by any means. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 15:34, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

You are correct that the Modernwarfare 247 article doesn't name the xm-25, I merely mentioned that it had a list a previews and that some of the previews do. The one paticulalrly from aggregame.com, which I linked, mentions weapons by name. Many articles of the gaming press, who clearly don't know guns like the people on here, claim a "sniper rifle that shoots grenades" on the New York level. Aggregame.com's article says this in the 3rd paragraph quote, "We see a new type of weapon used in this level called the XM25. This weapon uses a laser rangefinder to determine the distance to the target and once fired, detonated at the proper distance to produce an airburst effect. Anyone hiding will be properly taken out." Now, judging from the grammar used (though this is only a hypothetical analysis) he mentioned it being "called" an XM-25. Meaning that the game files at this stage of development identify it as such, not that he used it and was like "oh I know what this is". Judging from the description of many gaming press articles (again linked by modernwarfare24/7) it 'seems' to be the real thing. --[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 15:51, 26 May 2011 (CDT)DaiTaNam

:Arg, I was just in the middle of adding that :P [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 15:55, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

:: Ahhh fair enough, gotcha'. Hm, well I hope they actually make it semi-automatic and with a small overall ammunition capacity. IW seems to shower in explosions and knifing, when they're making a -shooter-. I dunno' why they don't focus on making their conventional firearms better. Either way, nice snag on the info. Though, I will still caution you on MW247, I encountered them in my MW2 forum days and they weren't reliable at all. The 9 bang thing is troubling, what the hell was wrong with the Stun/Flash grenandes? Stun Grenades are -way- overpowered in my opinion, granted being stunned is an effect of a common flashbang, but being paralyzed -and- blinded, isn't. Regular flashbangs are enough, nothing else. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 15:59, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

:::Yeah, I wouldn't mid COD so much if they toned down the knifing, seriously, it's not sothing you should use because you couldn't think to do anything else, it should be a very last ditch defence, this goes for all shooters. What's strange is when I play COD4 (cause I still play 4 :) ), there's very little knifing if you watch the killfeed. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:27, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

:My thoughts exactly, Commando is silly. They had it right in CoD4. One thing that really bothers me, is that even on Hardcore, when I'm face to face and lighting the person up... it's still possible for them to knife me and walk away. Getting shot should interrupt the knife ability, and it shouldn't work faster than bullets. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 16:30, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

Exactly, it's not that it's one hit kill, it's that it's so damn fast! Bad Company 2 got the knife right, you press the button, and it kills them about a whole second (that's a long time) later, it's mostly an assassination weapon. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:34, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

Just wanna throw out, the XM-25 is now also confirmed by IGN. Link here: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/117/1171345p1.html. Someone can edit the main page appropriately as I'm not the most professional gun expert. --[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 22:23, 30 May 2011 (CDT)DaiTaNam

The "hybrid ACOG" could be one of Trijicon's ECOS models which have a small red dot sight mounted on top. And within a month, everybody will be whining about how "unfair" it is to have a scope and an RDS in one package... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:54, 9 June 2011 (CDT)

== Controversy ==

Well, it was inevitable, but the controversy's already gotten rolling.

[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/110393-Daily-Mail-Voices-Concern-Over-Ultra-Violent-Modern-Warfare-3 Escapist: Daily Mail Voices Concern Over "Ultra-Violent" Modern Warfare 3]

[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 17:45, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

: Fortunately, most gamers care about good games regardless of content. personally, I could care less what the media says. Not a big issue, always going to be this somewhere. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 18:12, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

: The controversy is exactly what they want, it's good promotion. Just like that whole "airport-level" in MW2 was. [[User:Killerpixel|Killerpixel]] 07:12, 27 May 2011 (CDT)

::Yup, it's good marketing for them, people become more interested when all the soccer mums etc. cry out about something. Until we see games like GTA actually getting banned, we FPS players have nothing to worry about. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 12:54, 27 May 2011 (CDT)

::: Killer, Alex, those are the most truthful words ever. They dont care about decency or people, they care about MONEY. [[User:Timaman|Timaman]] 17:58, 27 May 2011 (CDT)

:I get upset every time I see footage of the Towers falling, but that doesn't mean I think such images should be censored. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:54, 9 June 2011 (CDT)

== Unknown Ak Variant ==

I was think the gun listed as the Unknown Ak Variant might be a AK74. I thought this because it appears to have a longer flash hider, which the AK74 encorporates, although I wouldnt hold my breath. Thoughts?

: If you check out the flash-hider on the leaked Kotaku screens, you can see that it's emphatically not the AK-74 typical flash-hider. It's something I've never seen before, it's like just the last few centimeters of the AK-74 flashhider, married to the barrel. Magazine looks too curved to be the AK-74, so it's probably a 7.62x39 AK. AK Variant is good enough for me, CoD's AK's are always pretty non-specific. :) [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 18:52, 27 May 2011 (CDT)

:: On first screen, that unknown AK variant looks like Vzor 58 rifle as it doesnt have AK´s ejection port/ bolt. On second screen, its just normal AK that is on one of those leaked shots. They arent same, as first gun is longer, thiner and lacks top mounted RIS rail.

: It looks different because it's in the dark and is low-res, whereas the leaked one is in the bright daylight and is a high-res closeup. It's the same weapon, there is no reason why IW would include both being so similar.It doesn't have the bolt/ejection port because IW is lazy and uses mirror images of weapons to render their models. Where the end of the receiver meets the stock adapter and the angled area of the receiver around the magwell are dead giveaways that it's not the Czor in addition to the spacing of the ribs on the receiver, which on the Czor are very close together. The magazines are always a little bigger, just CoD's style, and even then the magazine looks just fine to me. It's an AK variant, not the Czech make.

:As for the length, it's the same. What you might be confusing is where the gas tube meets the barrel as the end of the weapon, in the reveal trailer capture, the barrel ends near the man's thigh it's just hard to make out. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 15:01, 28 May 2011 (CDT)

Shouldn't the AK-74 in the main page be called "Unknown AK variant" or something like that? It's a bit hard currently to determine what is the correct variant, but by the leaked footage, this could be the same customized AK-47 like in Modern Warfare 2 only with different flash hider, handguard (which is also in black instead of tan) and black stock instead of tan. --[[User:RaNgeR|RaNgeR]] 09:50, 31 May 2011 (CDT)

: The railed foreguard is distinctly smaller. The stock isn't a VLTOR-type stock, but an LE one. Also, in the CoD Elite snippet trailer, one can see that the leaked Kotaku picture is legitimate. It matches the AK in that perfectly, this is a new AK weapon model for sure not just a painted one from MW2. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 16:25, 1 June 2011 (CDT)

== Call Of Duty: Elite ==
Kinda off topic, but this site's COD talk pages always end up becomeing half about discussing the game anyway, I was that trailer for Elite, and man, they expect us to pay for that? I mean, it's cool, but Bungie's been doing that with Halo forever, and it's free... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 13:02, 31 May 2011 (CDT)

:The only color that matters to Activision, is green. I don't get it, your company produces the top-selling franchise of recent history, and you still want -more- money... get over yourselves. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 17:13, 31 May 2011 (CDT)

:Meh. Don't like it, then don't pay for it. Vote with your dollars. [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 06:41, 2 June 2011 (CDT)

:: I agree, and I don't plan on paying for it. Bungie did heatmaps/statistics/awards/etc for free... Activision is marketing Elite as some sort of CoD Facebook with the occasional prize won. As long as those are the only perks, then I will not be paying for it. However, if they decide to transform it into some VIP membership giving members say, discounts on map packs, early access, or different weapon/abilities that are available no other way... then it's supremely disappointing and insulting to the people who spend an already outrageous $60 USD on the very game they produced. I understand that Activision is a business, and the goal is to make money... but this just seems like overt greed and a way to cash in. It's also detrimental, because for some odd reason, CoD seems to set the paradigm for all FPS's of late. So, other companies now feel pressured to emulate CoD in order to make money themselves. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 15:45, 2 June 2011 (CDT)

I'ts been pretty much summed up already. DEFINITELY not buying this, and I'm still not even sure I want MW3. I saw somewhere that there are no dedicated servers, which was the final nail in the coffin. The only thing that could save it is...well...a miracle. I am probably just going to go with Battlefield 3.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 17:36, 2 June 2011 (CDT)

:I'm not expecting much from MW3, but I will get it for the singleplayer, just to see what happens with Price and Soap. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 17:42, 2 June 2011 (CDT)

They buy it used. Kick Activision where it hurts.

Battlefield 3 looks great, really high hopes for that one. MW3 doesn't look bad necessarily, just the same stuff in a different package. Will get it and play it a ton, but, as far as a good game being made, Battlefield 3 is going to take the cake. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 18:03, 2 June 2011 (CDT)

:Yeah, well said, I don't think MW3 is gonna be BAD, just the same thing again. BF3 looks awesome though. :) [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:49, 2 June 2011 (CDT)

:Not going to lie, I'm going to buy this to round out the MW series (hopefully it ends with #3), and I'll be buying BF3. I will not be paying a single cent for the Elite service though. There's no reason for it to exist as a pay service. [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] 03:55, 4 June 2011 (CDT)

DICE also just blogged about their FREE BattleLog thing, which is pretty much the same as Elite. But free, because DICE seem to be less concerned with making dough and more concerned with producing a decent game and making their customers happy. IW makes their customers happy, sure, but most of those customers value big 'splosions rather than deep and interesting gameplay. I love CoD, but Battlefield is long overdue and as a company, EA/DICE are good in my book. Really looking forward to the Multiplayer footage and information that'll be coming out of E3 in the next few days. Seems a bit odd though, nobody seems to be posting regularly on the BF3 Discussion thread... get to it! [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 09:54, 4 June 2011 (CDT)

Ummm... is Call of Duty: Elite directly related to MW3? If not, shouldn't it have it's own page? Please correct me if I'm wrong.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 13:04, 8 June 2011 (CDT)

:Elite is some kind of online service, not a separate game. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 14:36, 11 June 2011 (CDT)

== TDI Vector in Call of Duty Elite, MW-3 Snippet? ==

In the snippet of mw3 at the end of the Call of Duty Elite trailer, when the player is killed the stock of the TSI Vector from Mw2 appears on his back.
[[File:TDI Vector.jpg]]
--[[User:Mattatack92|Mattatack92]] 22:04, 31 May 2011 (CDT)

: Yep! I noticed that too. It's prolly indeed, the TDI Vector. However, I did notice that stock somewhere else on a weapon it shouldn't be in MW3, I can't say where, I just feel like I saw it somewhere. Good spot! [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 13:24, 1 June 2011 (CDT)

:: Could that be the M93 Raffica from MW2? I've always thought the stocks look similar. Although why a pistol has a stock in the first place is beyond me. [[User:Timaman|Timaman]] 06:39, 7 June 2011 (CDT)
:::To make it a more stable firing platform, especially for a pistol that fires in full-auto/tri-burst. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 12:33, 7 June 2011 (CDT)

== E3 Footage ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHfTBe_PJrQ
Some firearms could be seen here. AA-12 confirmed. --[[User:Ferrariguy1000|Ferrariguy1000]] 13:26, 6 June 2011 (CDT)

You can see the AK-74u, P-90, and Glock 18 as pickups at times 5:14, 5:22, and 6:46 --[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 13:29, 6 June 2011 (CDT)DaiTaNam

AA-12 is used for breaching the bridge of the sub starting at 6:16 --[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 13:52, 6 June 2011 (CDT)

I am nowhere near impressed with what we've seen out of MW3 so far... Good spots. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 14:29, 6 June 2011 (CDT)

2nd E3 Trailer spots at trailer found here (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-call-of/714784?type=flv). AK-47 as pickup at 1:29. 0:09 Driver of Humvee screams "RPG!", Dshk mounted on enemy vehicle at 1:40, M2 on automated gun system on Stryker at 2:16, Mi-24 using Yak-B gattling gun at 2:53, 9-bang used at 4:27, RPG (with RPG-7 sound from MW2) fired towards allied npcs at 4:50, XM-25 usage starting at 5:20, AT-4 as pickup at 5:30, AK-47 Grenadier seen as pickup at 7:00 possibly a gp-25 or a gp-30, Spas-12 as pickup at 8:12, Thermite grenades at 8:40, Reaper Drone weapons used starting at 9:25, M134 Minigun sighted 10:32, and RPG-7's fired at player shortly after, M134 magically taking down Hinds for remainder of the video (Hind cockpit glass alone is 12.7mm resistant).
:Wow, four years were not enough for them to realize that there is no such sh*t as "AK-74u". - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 16:21, 6 June 2011 (CDT)
::Hehe. Even when I name my classes I always find myself putting the 's' in it.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 18:59, 6 June 2011 (CDT)
:::I've seen people refer to the S model as a "Ak47 pistol". I mean, seriously, a pistol? makes it worse the bloke who said it is a retired soldier who fought in Vietnam. [[User:Timaman|Timaman]] 06:41, 7 June 2011 (CDT)
Note how they say 12.7mm resistant. With a m134 you have 50 rounds a second heading for those Hinds. Now I've known people who are attack helicopter pilots and they do not want to get hit by a minigun as while such things as Titanium armored tubs will take the hit such things as armored cockpit glass cannot due to the number of bullets hitting the "glass" Sort of like how you can drop a quarter on a car window and it will bounce but if you drop a tin can full of quarters it will break the window.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 21:38, 6 June 2011 (CDT)

:The worst thing was that you got HIT by the crashing Hind, then HIT the building, fall out of the Blackhawk (almost), pull yourself BACK IN while it's spinning out, and GET BACK ON THE DAMN M134, then, oh we're fine, let's keep on flying... Oh, that and the HUGE BRICK OF C4 that you breach the Bridge with, and it doesn't hurt you... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 02:58, 7 June 2011 (CDT)

::MW3=$60 MW2 DLC. Not impressed by anything I've seen so far, other than it taking place in NY; but Crysis 2, anyone? -Kangabox

Few more finds in the msnbc coverage of E3 (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/43349883#43349883). Some gameplay of spec-ops shows (at 0:30) a man running around with a lever-action rifle/shotgun of some kind. It looks similar to the M1887 shotgun from the "leaked" photos a month back. At 0:53 the gamers are using what appears to be the Bushmaster ACR but I may be wrong because I'm not a gun expert. Someone please identify, thanks. --[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 20:50, 11 June 2011 (CDT)

:Did anybody notice that the MP-5 was called an MP-5k? and that the ACR was called ACR 6.8 --[[User:Mattatack92|Mattatack92]] 01:04, 12 June 2011 (CDT)

More MW3 stuff. M1887 spotted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfRx33M0V6I --[[User:Ferrariguy1000|Ferrariguy1000]] 01:13, 12 June 2011 (CDT)

Actually, that may be a hint at caliber change options and the option to remove/attach stock.We'll see. [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 17:03, 14 June 2011 (CDT)

:^ This would be so awesome --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 07:58, 15 June 2011 (CDT)

:: I doubt Activision would put something semi-realistic in CoD, but if caliber change was implemented I would buy it just for that reason.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 17:17, 15 June 2011 (CDT)

::: Imagine what an 7.62X39 ACR would be like (it can be modified to use it). Just kill the bad guys and pick up their AK magazines. Awesome. [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 17:38, 15 June 2011 (CDT)

== Glock 18c ==

Should this not be put down as a Glock 17 seeing as it's likely it's the exact same gun from MW2? -- [[User:TheTrueNight|TheTrueNight]]
:We should wait until we get a good shot of it before we make a decision, although it is likely the same.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 19:04, 12 June 2011 (CDT)
:Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me, Jazz :) -- [[User:TheTrueNight|TheTrueNight]]

== Unknown pistol from Late Night footage ==

[[Image:FN57MW3.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px]]

Can anyone help identify this pistol? Looks like an FN Five seveN to me (sorry for bad quality) --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 08:15, 14 June 2011 (CDT)

:Yep, that's a Five-seveN alright, cool. EDIT, it holds 15 rounds. Wow, hardcore fail. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:18, 14 June 2011 (CDT)

:I had figured they'd do SOMETHING to balance it, either keep it at 20 rounds and give it low damage, or reduce mag size to keep it similar to other pistols --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 08:46, 14 June 2011 (CDT)

Is there a link to this footage? -- [[User:TheTrueNight|TheTrueNight]]

:http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3-61311/1333686/ Also confirms the inclusion of the Model 1887 in the game --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 11:36, 14 June 2011 (CDT)

FN five-seveN- YES! One handed grip- meh. Could get over it. Once (or if) they confirm the P99/P226, I will be more excited. At one point, the developer says something like "This gives an action movie feel. We tried to make it a cinematic experience." That is what CoD is- an action movie. If you want a military sim go to Battlefield.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 13:23, 14 June 2011 (CDT)

:True that, I will always enjoy both games because they offer completely different experiences despite being the same genre. I'll be more interested in MW3 when they start announcing some MGs, but the Five-seveN is a pretty cool addition --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 14:53, 14 June 2011 (CDT)
:Gotta agree with both of you, there, I'm psyched for an FN five-seveN in a game like CoD. -- [[User:TheTrueNight|TheTrueNight]] 00:43, 15 June 2011
::"Wow, hardcore fail." Alex, what the f#ck did you expect from a call of duty game. +1 round in the chamber? Some things will never change. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 05:53, 23 June 2011 (CDT)
:::Haha, I was never hopeful enough for +1, but until not they'd gotten almost all the mag capacities right, especially since the 20 round mag is one of the most notable features of the Five-seveN :P [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 01:36, 24 June 2011 (CDT)
::::If it did have 20 rounds, people would complain that it was overpowered. All in the name of balance! --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 01:51, 27 June 2011 (CDT)
:::::Not if it was very weak, no one complained about the 20 round Five-seveN in the Counter Strike games. :\ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 14:16, 27 June 2011 (CDT)
::::::There is that I suppose. It'd probably never be used in favour of something a little more powerful with fewer rounds though. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 01:22, 28 June 2011 (CDT)

:And of course it's probably still going to have 15 rounds in single even though multiplayer balance is totally irrelevant there. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:42, 28 June 2011 (CDT)
::Good point, didn't consider that. Screw Sledgehammer. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 03:12, 28 June 2011 (CDT)

I am starting to realise that if ammo sharing between primaries and secondaries comes back from Cod4, most SMGs will have an advantage, as of now there are many possible combos (P90/Five-seveN, MP5 & FMG-9/P226 & Glock 18 and possibly UMP45/USP45 or M1911). This would make Scavenger (if it returns) unecessary and would open up a perk slot. [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 19:38, 12 July 2011 (CDT)

:That would be awesome! [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:04, 12 July 2011 (CDT)

== 1911 back in MW3 ==

Does anyone think the M1911 will be back in Modern Warfare, and I found a 1911 looking gun when soldier blind-firing with a UMP45 in the reveal trailer [[File:UMP45-MW3]]

:I know the shot you're talking about, it could be a 1911, I HOPE it's a 1911, but it could also be the P226 with wierd lighting on it, if there really is a P226. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 20:46, 15 June 2011 (CDT)

:I hope both are included, the selection of secondaries in Black Ops was paltry, more pistol choices plz. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 10:54, 16 June 2011 (CDT)
: yeah more pistol choices because in black ops I only used the m1911 and the python.

:I only use the ASP, I know it was highly outclassed by all the others but it was obscure enough to make it a favourite.--[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 15:41, 16 June 2011 (CDT)

:I like all the pistols in Black Ops (except the Makarov, I've never liked it), but the problem was they were almost all the same, low capacity, low damage, like the WaW pistols. While we're talking about pistols, has anyone else noticed that the sildes of the COD4 pistols actually locked back when empty, and the WaW ones had working hammers? Then starting with MW2, it just became part of the animation, so it would fully cycle, then appear back when you started reloading. Black Ops continued this too. The only pistol in MW2 that locked empty was the 1911 because they just copy-pasted the whole thing from 4, and the only one to lock empty in BO is... the 1911. Apparently they just reskined the WaW 1911 in BO. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:06, 16 June 2011 (CDT)

:Can't say I'm surprised, I suppose the majority of players don't notice small inconsistencies in weapon function animations. I guess they could get away with copy pasting the M1911 from CoD4 into MW2 as it was only featured in campaign, which in itself was pretty lame as it was the only sidearm I used in CoD4 --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 18:57, 16 June 2011 (CDT)

:Yeah Ive heard about it and sceen it do you think they fix the bug --[[User:GVK2009|GVK2009]] 22:01, 16 June 2011 (CDT)GVK2009

: I wouldn't be surprised, it's kinda become a tradition to have it in the series. [[User:Swamples|Swamples]] 04:36, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

::They better, if only so Price can have it like in MW2. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:47, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

== Weapons Wishlist ==

Any particular guns that people are hoping to see in MW3? All I need in order to be happy is the M240. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 11:33, 17 June 2011 (CDT)
:Hmm, I'm having for some drum mags and Frag-12 rounds for the AA-12. Also, a Blaser R93 LRS2 wouldn't go amiss. Probably not a military weapon, but neither is the WA2000 or the Winchester 1887. *Cough* MW2 *Cough* Also hope they bring back the M93R but fix the magazines to give it 30 rounds. And hopefully they throw in the PSG-1, like in BO, but make it look decent (Not sure about you guys, but to me the gun looked disgusting in BO). That's pretty much my wishlist, I guess. --[[User:TheTrueNight|TheTrueNight]] 18:08, 17 June 2011
::Argle bargle there is no such thing as an M93R Beretta does not use M for model prefix etc etc [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:17, 17 June 2011 (CDT)
::Thanks for the correction, Tim. I'm not amazing with guns, but I hope to improve. --[[User:TheTrueNight|TheTrueNight]] 18:24, 17 June 2011
::Muh the AA-12, sure it looks cool but it can never, ever be balanced for inclusion in a video game. Also I think the PSG-1 in Black Ops was hot. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 12:28, 17 June 2011 (CDT)
All I need to be happy is a HUGE selection of pistols, not many (forgive me for lack of a better word) noob guns like LMGs, AA12, etc, and (gonna get a lot of heat for this) NO QUICKSCOPING. IMHO snipers should be used as snipers, and running around close-quarters with a sniper is simply a one shot one kill semi auto rifle. Pistols I would love to see in the game even though half of them have a guaranteed 0% chance- Walther P99, SIG-Sauer P226/P228/P229, HK P30 or HK45, Beretta Cougar or more realistically the Px4 Storm, S&W M&P, Para Ordnance P14 45 Limited (this would be the best pistol in the game, as I would leave out the Desert Eagle), and to round it all out a good ole Smith & Wesson Model 686 with Pachmayr Grips. I am also glad that the FN Five-seveN is in it, I just wish they gave it a proper two-handed grip.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 13:09, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

:::About the PSG-1, ALL the weapons looked terrible in Black Ops. JazzBlackBelt, I'd be worried if you took heat for not wanting quickscoping on this website, that would seriously worry me :/ And, yeah, pretty much what you said. As for balancing an AA-12, no, it can't be done, everyone go watch FPSRussia's AA-12 video, especially when he one-hands it; you can't balance that. They just made the pellets disappear after (literally!) 10 feet in MW2... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 15:04, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

:::'not many (forgive me for lack of a better word) noob guns like LMGs' Haha, as a regular LMG user this makes me sad :( I don't think LMGs are 'noob guns' if employed properly, they are fairly essential in defensive roles if playing gametypes like domination in which points NEED to be effectively locked down. However, I will concede that the majority of players who DO choose LMGs do so in order to hold the trigger down and hope 2-3 of their 100 round belts hit, which is just not on. As for quickscoping, I can't stand it. I feel it's cheap and 95% down to aim assist (though obviously not on PC). --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 16:29, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

::::I'm so ''sick'' of the term N00B, ugh. I'm not going to give my "wish list" cause IW is gonna do what "they" want and not listen to "us", I stopped playing COD games at WM2. :/ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 17:15, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

:::::75% of the LMG users use them improperly, like running around not really aiming. I still get annoyed when they kill me (I get annoyed at pretty much everything when it kills me) but if they were actually using it properly it makes me feel a little bit better. As I play on PC there are still annoying players that play outrageously, but on PC virtually nobody uses the mic (on CoD anyway) so I don't have to listen to them talk!--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 17:25, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

:::::I'm the same, though I think getting annoyed is part of the fun. It must be, otherwise we wouldn't keep playing. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 17:33, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

::::::Nah, getting annoyed is never part of the fun, the game is good enough that we can clinch our teeth from the few annoying things and still enjoy the game. ;) (At least in MW1 for me anyway.) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 19:15, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

::::::I've never been that keen on CoD4, definitely not on PC anyway. The maps are far too small for the amount of players each server has :\ --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 10:33, 18 June 2011 (CDT)

:::::::Love COD4 on the PC, I love the 24 to 50 players on those "small" maps, 50 players makes it a true war! I prefer playing on Hard Core mode, just love it, no HUD, 1 or 2 bullets to kill someone, that's the way all the COD games '''should''' be by default. :) Never played WM2 or BO, they're too silly and Hollywood. :P - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 18:22, 18 June 2011 (CDT)

::::::::COD4 is by far the best CoD in my opinion. I play on PC, but I hate when there are too many players on a map. I aim for servers with about 4-15 players. Likewise, I love the big maps on BC2, but only when there are enough players.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 19:53, 18 June 2011 (CDT)

Aside from seconding the inclusion of a bigger variety of combat pistols (note that by "combat pistols", I don't mean Desert Eagles, S&W 500s, and the like), the only weapon I'd like to see is a Mark 12 SPR. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 05:48, 19 June 2011 (CDT)

My wishlist would be for more Shotguns and to have them placed not ONLY as secondaries, but Primaries too. For example, I'd love to have the semi-auto M1014 or the 1887 as a primary but have a smaller sawn off shotgun or a compact pump action as a secondary, like a Mossberg 590 Compact Cruiser. MW2 with it's secondary shotguns was a bit of disappointment with me. I'd love to see more real life mainstream shotguns instead of the damn SPAS-12, it's overused for god sake, just start adding the 870 or the Mossberg, I wouldn't even mind if it had all the "Tacticool" crap on, as long as it was either the Mossberg or 870 underneath it all. But overall, more pistols in general, maybe a sniper rifle with only a single shot fire capability, a G3 Rifle from COD4 and maybe some really old weapons, like a Bolt Action Mosin Nagant or a Lee Enfield Rifle. [[User:Draco122|Draco122]] 17:36, 20 June 2011 (CDT)

:How about NO shotguns as secondaries? IMO primaries should be the rifle/shotgun and secondaries should be pistols. Two shotguns? A little bit overkill and unfair.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 18:58, 20 June 2011 (CDT)

:: I don't know, there is something crazy fun about running around with a M4 and the semi-atuo M1014. Unrealistic, and ridiculous? Maybe, but can't deny that its fun. --[[User:Rebusdi|Rebusdi]] 19:02, 20 June 2011 (CDT)

My wishlist would be that we could choose our equipment before the missions. There are some, I suppose where that would be unrealistic such as the 'No Russian' from MW2, but I think it would give everyone a bit more personal or in depth experience if they could choose their kit. I love the idea that we could get the flip up magnifier for an EOTech sight, but in general I prefer how much less of the screen is taken up by the red dot sight from MW1+2. I don't know enough about programming to understand if this would be impossible, but right now I have a bit of a crush on the Bushmaster ACR and would love to play levels with that, and in a few months when I'm having another of my HK 41X kicks play the game again with that rifle. Living in the UK my PC is the closest I will get to these guns, and I think everyone would have more fun if they could personalise their kit rather than have it chosen arbitrarily by IW/Activision who, I doubt, could not come up with one reason, good or bad, for giving you the equipment that they do. One specific request Sig Sauer p226 in .357 sig, they won't do it but you have to have dreams. --[[User:Rebusdi|Rebusdi]] 19:00, 20 June 2011 (CDT)

A Weapon Loadout wouldn't be too hard. Medal of Honor: Airborne did the same thing. Maybe, completing missions, unlocking achievements/trophies (and a separate means on PC and Wii), unlocks new weapons to choose. - [[User:1morey]] June 20, 2011 8:50 PM (EST)

Two main things I'm hoping for: First, I want my F2000 back, but I want IW to get the unique optics right -- the EGLM sight on the real F2000 is magnified, so in-game, it should be the ACOG scope that looks like the EGLM, not the Red Dot. Second, I want a Springfield Armory XD or XD(m) pistol, preferably in .45 caliber; hell, I'd settle for the Croatian HS2000 that the XD is based on. I have a few other wishes (XM500 instead of M82/M107), but those two are the only ones that really have any chance of coming true. - [[User:Rhainor|Rhainor]] 18:13, 20 August 2011 (CDT)

When will CoD learn? i love CoD but its seriously going down hill from CoD4. they had nice, popular NORMAL weapons in CoD4. M4A1, AK, M16, 1911, M9. now their bringing in stuff that knowone has ever heard of. is it too much to ask for a normal Glock? maybe a 17 or 21 in place of the USP. maybe use some pistols actually being used by actual SF Operators like the Glock, Sig, 1911, Springfield XD. and what is up with the Russians carrying FAMAS's. just looking for a call of duty that had the same quality and standards as COD4.. anyone with me on this? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 20:59, 24 August 2011 (CDT)

:What? The USP is WAY more "normal" that the XD [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:05, 24 August 2011 (CDT)

i'd give it a few years, its been tried to replace the M9 (as did the hK45), its employed by a few police forces, im sure its being used by SF. and PS im pretty sure that most people would hand in the USP for the newer more ergonomic hK45, or the P30(same thing but in 9x19/.40S&W) [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 21:07, 24 August 2011 (CDT)

:But... The HK45 only holds 10+1 rounds where as the USP45 holds 12+1. :B By decreasing the grip size for smaller hands and better ergonomics it lost 2 rounds. :( If someone made flush-fitting 12 round mags for the HK45, I'd buy it in a heart beat. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 23:25, 24 August 2011 (CDT)

:I would take the fully ambi version of the USP45 over any other handgun. Period. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 00:05, 25 August 2011 (CDT)

== AK-74u ==

Shouldn't the section for the aks74u on the page be titled "AKS-74u" and not AK-74u with quotations? IMO it's the same as calling a Glock 17 converted to full auto a fake Glock 18. I don't believe in the "call it what the game calls it" method because that is incorrect. I think we should definitely mention that the game incorrectly names it in the description, but the title should be the actual gun it is modeled after.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 00:47, 5 July 2011 (CDT)

:It uses that title because the weapon is actually a replica of the JG "AK Beta-F" Airsoft gun, not an AKS-74u; it's a mess of different AK variant bits and pieces (mostly AK-47) that's shaped a bit like an AKS-74u but certainly isn't one. Hence it's a quote-unquote AK-74u. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:23, 5 July 2011 (CDT)

:Just as Evil Tim said, it's only similar to the 74u in name, it's a bunch of different AKs, and it's not even a 74, it's a 47 anyway. Someone could copy-paste the description from the COD4 page. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 01:43, 5 July 2011 (CDT)

::Then shouldn't it be titled the model of the airsoft gun? All other pages I have seen that use airsoft guns as stand ins for real guns have the gun(s) it is modeled after and in parenthesis the airsoft gun. Anyway, thanks for clearing that up as I'm not much of an AK expert.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 00:25, 6 July 2011 (CDT)

:::It's not exactly the same as the Airsoft gun either, though. On a movie page where the gun in question was being used to play a real one, yes, you'd use the name, but here it's a fictional gun ''based'' on an Airsoft gun, so you just have to go with what they call it in quotes. That's how it's normally done for Frankenguns and fictional custom weapons in games. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:01, 6 July 2011 (CDT)

:Well, technically the only difference is the bakelite mags, but "AK-74u" looks WAY better than "AK Beta-F". [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 03:19, 6 July 2011 (CDT)

::There's some minor differences in the layout of the gas block and front grip (check the CoD4 page images) and I'd agree it looks better to call it by the game name in quotes; it also makes it easier for someone looking for an ID of the weapon to actually find it. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 03:49, 6 July 2011 (CDT)

:::The gas block and grip just look like fail modelling, but they are different ;) [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 04:20, 6 July 2011 (CDT)

Thanks for all the replies, really cleared that up for me. As I said before, I am NOT in any way an AK expert. I had read that the one in COD4 it was modeled after an airsoft gun, and assumed the airsoft gun was modeled after the actual gun, not random bits. To avoid making other people confused I will update the description with a modified version of the COD4 one.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 23:43, 7 July 2011 (CDT)

:Yeah I know what you mean by not an AK expert, it took me forever to be able to tell what one was just by looking at it for a sec, and there's still a lot that I come across I hadn't heard of. Same with revolvers, even now, they still all look the same to me lol. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 03:29, 8 July 2011 (CDT)

::Other than a few Smith & Wessons, don't ask me ANYTHING about revolvers. But hey, that's what this site is for- educating people about firearms.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 11:56, 8 July 2011 (CDT)

:Lol, well said :) [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 15:58, 8 July 2011 (CDT)

It is correct that this gun is not an aks 74u and that the term ak 74u "doesn't exist." However, I don't know where the author of the main page got the information that this gun "doesn't exist." It's called an SBR (short barreled rifle) you can look it up if you don't believe me, just type in: short barrel rifle ak. Also, I know for a fact that you can fit an aks 74u type muzzle brake on the rifle. Most, if not all ak type muzzle brakes are compatible with each other. Just sayin'. --[[User:Grimmerc915|Grimmerc915]] 16:59, 27 July 2011 (CDT)

:I googled, and there's no weapon listed called an "AK-74u" on the first page. If you can find a fullauto AKM-pattern weapon that looks like the one in the game and is called the AK-74u ''by the manufacturer'', then feel free to add it to the page, but as far as anyone can tell it's an "AK Beta F" Airsoft gun. This would hardly be the first mistake CoD has made regarding weapons, CoD1 had eight and ten-man weapons with a one-man crew and MP44s at Stalingrad in 1942-43. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 20:15, 27 July 2011 (CDT)

I'm sorry for the poor communication, the gun is call a "Short Barrel Rifle." Ak 74u is just a nickname of AKS 74u. Look up "Short Barrel Rifle ak" on google. You are correct in saying that the Ak 74u isn't a "real weapon."--[[User:Grimmerc915|Grimmerc915]] 23:43, 27 July 2011 (CDT)

:SBR is a legal classification of weapons (shoulder-fired rifled guns with barrels 16 inches or shorter) which require a special tax stamp and registration, it's not a specific gun. It's been applied to handguns with shoulder stocks before. What you're finding with that google search is weapons which fit that legal definition. Bear in mind we ''don't'' use legal definitions here, because legally, for example, there's no such thing as a fully automatic shotgun (it's a "machine gun"). [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 23:49, 27 July 2011 (CDT)

Regardless of what you say it's classified as, the weapon exists regardless of technical terms. I was merely proving the weapon existed. Even if it is heavily modified.--[[User:Grimmerc915|Grimmerc915]] 23:55, 27 July 2011 (CDT)

:Um, you're looking at dozens of different short-barrel AKM-pattern weapons with that search, the only thing they have in common is requiring an SBR stamp. It doesn't really change that ''this'' AK isn't a real gun, because it's an Airsoft gun based on piecemeal bits of the AK47 and AKS-74U. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 00:01, 28 July 2011 (CDT)

Okay, I don't want to debate the issue with you here, I am aware that you are correct about the SBR title and its classification. However, If you look at the weapon posted, you will realize that it is merely an AKM with a shortened barrel, the pictures I found proves that this customization exists. You're going by weapon title whereas I'm going by the weapon itself. A weapon like that could, in theory, exist. With full auto capability and everything. But do what you will, It doesn't bother me at all, However, I think you can agree that this fictional weapon is at least based off a real firearm.--[[User:Grimmerc915|Grimmerc915]] 00:09, 28 July 2011 (CDT)

The only Aks 74u piece you're talking about is the muzzle brake.--[[User:Grimmerc915|Grimmerc915]] 00:12, 28 July 2011 (CDT)

Oh, and the sight, but dude, I don't want to be that guy, I just want to show that this gun could be real, after all, the gun in-game doesn't show any manufacturer or anything, it's just a customized AKM.--[[User:Grimmerc915|Grimmerc915]] 00:15, 28 July 2011 (CDT)

:You're talking about the fact that the configuration could ''theoretically'' be made into a real gun, though. We know of an ''actual'' Airsoft gun which is mass-produced right now and easily available to be used as a reference, which is all but identical to what is shown in the game. This means it's based on a fake weapon. Whether you could make an actual weapon based on ''it'' doesn't really change that. We say the same of handheld miniguns in videogames which have the "chainsaw grip" from T2 but retain the half-circle attachment point for the ''Predator'' M60 grip: you could make a minigun with a useless half-circle attachment, but that doesn't change that the useless half-circle comes from the Airsoft version we have pictured on the M134 page. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 00:23, 28 July 2011 (CDT)

By all means do whatever you want, you know more about this site than I do, and frankly, I like this site and don't want to get into an argument on it. Either way is fine by me. And I'll leave it as a agree to disagree kind of thing regarding its actual existence. There's not enough evidence to say it does or doesn't exist. So I apologize for my previous remark. I leave it at a possibilty.--[[User:Grimmerc915|Grimmerc915]] 00:30, 28 July 2011 (CDT)

== Call of Duty XP 2011 ==

I doubt it, but was just wondering if anyone is going to this? I'm curious if they got all the right guns in the "Call of Duty Armory", which apparently has the guns from CoD in it. You also get the chance to play MW3 for the first time, and a little beforehand reporting never hurt anyone ;).--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 00:00, 8 July 2011 (CDT)
:If I lived in the States/had the money to afford a flight to LA I probably would have gone. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 12:27, 8 July 2011 (CDT)

== Screenshot from FourZeroTwo/PKP Pecheneg spotted? ==

[http://a.yfrog.com/img736/504/nceia.jpg]

Looks like the Juggernaut soldier is using a PKP Pecheneg (note the distinctive carry handle on the top of the barrel).
There are some other guns lying around, possible an M14 on the left? Looks like a .308 mag to me....

(also is there a way to post an image directly in a discussion?)

--[[User:Ghostdigga|Ghostdigga]] 14:16, 10 July 2011 (CDT)

:Anyone else notice the annoyingly obvious Remington and EOTech trademarks? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 17:03, 10 July 2011 (CDT)

::Yeah I don't like the trades at all, though I doubt I will use the ACR all that much. Good job on the PKP spot Ghost, think you're on the money there. Have wanted the PKP for a while. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 01:50, 11 July 2011 (CDT)

::Yeah, it's not like guns have rollmarks in real life, right?-protoAuthor 21:10, 12 July 2011 (CDT)

:::Meh, I don't mind the trades. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 04:46, 13 July 2011 (CDT)

::::Each to their own, but they are massive so it feels a little like (very obscure) product placement --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 07:51, 13 July 2011 (CDT)

::To be honest, I'll take overt sponsorship over price rises. You have to remember that games have gone from something that could be made by half a dozen people in six months to something that takes 150-2,000 (GTAIV) people years and costs millions of dollars, and in real terms games now cost less than they did in those days. For example, the original ''Turok'' adjusted for inflation cost over $100 when the N64 first came out. They've got to get more money from somewhere, and you should be glad that somewhere isn't you. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 10:04, 13 July 2011 (CDT)
:::I think it's brilliant. The MW series has made ACOG and EOTech house-hold names to an entire generation of potential customers. How many twelve year olds knew what an ACOG was pre-MW? Or what a Remington ACR was, or FN SCAR? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 11:00, 13 July 2011 (CDT)
::::But can they tell the difference between a Remington ACR and a Magpul Masada? But seriously, I don't mind the trades that much. Sure, they are gigantic and wrongly placed, but will you honestly be focused on that while playing?--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 11:14, 13 July 2011 (CDT)
:::::I suppose not, no. You might struggle to play the game if constantly focusing on your gun's trades. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 16:17, 13 July 2011 (CDT)
::::::Yeah, you guys are right, the product placement isn't too bad, it's just the oversized obviousness that bothers me. Oh, and I'm not familiar with the new EOTech in this game, but isn't the EOTech trade where the buttons should be? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 20:04, 13 July 2011 (CDT)
:::::::Not necessarily, I believe the model depicted there is the EXPS2, which has the buttons on the left-hand side (http://www.copquest.com/75-8030.jpg) --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 22:18, 13 July 2011 (CDT)
::::::Oh okay, it doesn't bother me nearly as much now. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 02:13, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
:::::::If you guys have 3 minutes to spare, here's a youtube vid of the EXPS2, which indeed does have the EOTech trade on the back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpw0IigxQM Plus, at the 1:00 minute mark he brings out a magnifier that has the same flip to side capability as we saw in some video for MW3, I don't remember which.
::Yeah, it is a PKP Pecheneg, Confirmed. - [[User:ReikoKotobuki|ReikoKotobuki]]

== ??????? ==
Why haven't all the guns from the Walther P99 to the Heckler & Koch M320 (above) been applied to the main page? Every image containing the guns have been confirmed as official by Robert Bowling.
:They were on Kotaku, which is not a reliable source, and last I heard they said "some of the information released is accurate, some not". If they have been confirmed elsewhere, please post a link.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 16:54, 25 July 2011 (CDT)

This isn't rocket science. Those pictures were leaked before the gameplay videos were. Look at the M-4 from the video, then from the Kotaku Link. They're the exact same, and the MP5 as well. They're legit, I'm convinced.--[[User:Grimmerc915|Grimmerc915]] 17:04, 27 July 2011 (CDT)

:This website operates based on CONFIRMED information. However likely it may be that they are legit (I'm convinced too) we have to wait for them to be in an official gameplay video.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 17:59, 27 July 2011 (CDT)

::Yes, plus, as the template at the top of the age says, all images must be from ''official trailers''. The pics here are still from a leak, even if some of them have been confirmed. I'd say the only time we should use leaked pics is ''after'' the release if they include weapons that never made the final cut (eg the minigun in the leaked STALKER alpha), but never before. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 20:18, 27 July 2011 (CDT)

Okay, fair enough. Sounds good to me.--[[User:Grimmerc915|Grimmerc915]] 00:24, 28 July 2011 (CDT)

== Survival Mode Trailer ==

Look HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxDQ2Ow-VfI&feature=player_embedded. New weapon spots include...(please identify) at 0:11, (please identify...maybe Scar-H) at 0:14, buy screen confirms USAS-12 and M60E4 at 0:40, G36 at 0:42, ?auto-grenade launcher? (mk.19???) at 0:48, new telescopic lens attachment at 1:25, riot shield at 1:38, FMG-9 and bounding landmine (unknown type) at 2:04. Please update main page accordingly =D --[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 13:24, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

You beat me to it, was just in the middle of writing a post about this! --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 13:30, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

Forgot to mention, at 0:42, ACR using 6.8mm ammo --[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 13:32, 9 August 2011 (CDT)
Also 0:52, it IS a mk.19 automatic grenade launcher!!!! --[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 13:34, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

:I think the weapon at 0:11 might be another AR platform weapon, they show more of it at 0:15. I'm thinking LWRC's M6A4 but they're not an exact match. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 14:27, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

:: It's the same M4 seen in the leaks and the E3 footage.[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:39, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

:::Nah that's shown at 0:17, is definitely a different gun. Much longer than the M4, also the rail system, charging handle and rear sight differ. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 17:25, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

Dammit, I was hoping they wouldn't bring back that juggernaut soldier. Also, seeing what they did to that poor 1887 made me cry. One good thing though, deploying a riot shield squad could be interesting.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 15:56, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

:Wait, weren't riot shields also available in MW2? I remember seeing them in MW2 videos. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 16:37, 9 August 2011 (CDT)
::Indeed they were introduced in MW2, but only the AI could use a sidearm in tandem with the shield. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 19:15, 9 August 2011 (CDT)
:::Aww. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 21:50, 9 August 2011 (CDT)
Also, here's the list of weapons up for purchase during the trailer: [http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110809195831/callofduty/images/8/8f/USAS_12_Survival_Mode.png Clicky!] [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 17:02, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

The landmine device at the end of the video is an IMS landmine. Information here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2upxZigECyk. I don't know if we post about that kind of thing, but claymores are listed on the main website. --[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 17:36, 14 August 2011 (CDT)

== Colt CM901 ==
[[Image:UK1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:UK2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Anyone know what this is? I think it's LWRC's M6A4 but I'm not certain, definitely isn't either of the other AR platform weapon's we've seen so far though

Well, since Infinity Ward loves to put Future Weapons stuff in the games, I wouldn't be surprised if the LWRC M6A4 made an appearance as a mag-fed LMG, Black Ops-style. [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 20:28, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

:^ That's what I was thinking, the reload animation looks quite slow for an assault rifle. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 20:32, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

:Yet, once again, they have put the rear iron sight backwards :P --[[User:RaNgeR|RaNgeR]] 21:57, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

::Good job whoever identified this as a Colt CM901! --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 07:05, 10 August 2011 (CDT)

:::No, that iron sight isn't on backwards. That's the standard BIS for M4's in the Army. Every M4 in our Brigade has that flip up sight. The only thing wrong with it is that it's supposed to be a the standard peep hole, not the night sight that you see on the M16/M4 carrying handles. [[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 09:51, 10 August 2011 (CDT)
:::: For reference, I believe [http://www.aresarmor.com/install/media/ecom/prodlg/matechbuis.jpg this] either is or is a commercial copy of the sight he's on about. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:33, 10 August 2011 (CDT)
:::::Yes sir that would be it [[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 12:27, 12 August 2011 (CDT)

== MP5K!! ==

Someone throw in the MP5K to confirmed weapons, it can be seen with a holographic in the vid, after the player tosses a purple smoke grenade for AC-130 fire at 1:08 in the newest trailer! :D Dunno WHY they add it in with the regular MP5, but it's confirmed in the bottom right hand corner. --[[User:TheTrueNight|TheTrueNight]]

:On it. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 20:38, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

::The strange thing is that the difference is not even noticeable as the guy holds the MP5K close to his body and the buttstock (the buttplate on the MP5K) isn't visible. [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 20:46, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

:::I think it has a buttstock attached, as far as I can tell. I get the feeling this is the only MP5 variant in the game. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 20:50, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

::::What the about the MP5A2? - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 22:00, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

:::::I thought they both looked very similar (buttstock, rails etc) so that's why I assumed they might both be one and the same, but if they're both confirmed as separate weapons then fair enough. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 22:07, 9 August 2011 (CDT)
::::::They could have misnamed the MP5A2 an MP5K. :\ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 22:12, 9 August 2011 (CDT)
:::::::I also think this might be the only MP5 in the game, and if it is the MP5k OR it is a MP5A2 misnamed, I'm going to get angry. The MP5k is a nice gun, but I want to be able to use a full size MP5 again, like the good ole days. Ahh, how I miss COD4...--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 22:17, 9 August 2011 (CDT)
::::::::True to that. Well I'm still playing COD4, huaha! >:D I just played Black Ops only for a little while, I completed SP, played Zombies and MP for a couple of hours until I quit due to the frustrating and the annoying, and went back to playing COD4. XD Oh, and I never even touched the abomination that is called MW2. D:< - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 01:12, 10 August 2011 (CDT)
:::::::::I played Black Ops for a while, enjoyed, then played COD4 again and realized how bad BO was. Recently I broke down and bought MW2 because Steam had it half off, and having extremely low expectations for it, I found it wasn't terrible, but just bad. I still play the MP, but I have no idea why.
We saw the teaser trailer and it is the full size MP5. I'd be damn if they kept the MP5K. Seriously man. In Black Ops they had the right idea of no mini Uzi and gave us a full Uzi, I want me full size MP5 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:27, 9 August 2011 (CDT)
:Hehe. :D - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 01:12, 10 August 2011 (CDT)
::Seriously though, I don't know why they put the smaller variants of everything. MP5k, Mini-Uzi, and small guns in particular like the sawed off shotgun and stuff. Don't even get me started about the excess rails, which appears to have continued over into MW3. 0.o--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 10:37, 10 August 2011 (CDT)
:::I quite like the MP5K, but for the most part I prefer the full size variants of the weapons they include. As for rails, everybody knows the more rails you have on your gun, the better your gaming experience will be. *Trollface* --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 09:20, 11 August 2011 (CDT)
::: Needs more Tacticool. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 09:31, 11 August 2011 (CDT)
:::^ --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 09:58, 11 August 2011 (CDT)

== M60E4 could be M60E3 ==

After looking closely again at the trailer, I have noticed that the picture of the M60E4 is actually the M60E3 from [[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]. Of course we haven't seen MW3's M60 in action yet, but once again, could be another mistake, or just an early development place holder... Here are the pictures for comparison:
* Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare's M60 - http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Wmplayer_2011-08-09_23-35-18-50.jpg
* Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3's M60 - http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:COD4M60E4.jpg

What do you think? --[[User:RaNgeR|RaNgeR]] 21:54, 9 August 2011 (CDT)

:I think they images they're using atm are largely just placeholders until final ones are chosen, so the final in-game model may end up being the E4 variant. Guess we'll have to wait till footage from CoD XP comes out to see for ourselves. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 22:09, 9 August 2011 (CDT)
:: The fact the MW2 ACR image is being used supports that. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 02:45, 10 August 2011 (CDT)

== FAD assault rifle ==

Whereabouts in the spec-ops trailer is the FAD? Someone updated the main page but no pics. Here's a picture of the FAD for anyone who hasn't seen it, looks horrific [http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5347/fad3vv2.jpg] --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 18:03, 12 August 2011 (CDT)
:Just watched the trailer and am 99% there was no FAD in it. Also, the MP5K is actually a railed MP5A2, and can be seen from the side on the ground when the first juggernaut fast ropes in. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 19:50, 12 August 2011 (CDT)
::I thought so. :) And yeah the FAD is pretty horrific looking. XD - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 20:29, 12 August 2011 (CDT)
:::OMG that gun looks bleh...i'd rather see the F2000 or TAR-21 again, those are some sexy bullpup rifles. But this time please with correct grenadelauncher placement.--[[User:WARthog|WARthog]] 08:29, 15 August 2011 (CDT)
: Chrausis, the FAD isn't in the trailer, but can be seen on Sledgehammer's site in image 2 as seen here [http://sledgehammergames.com/]. And Commando, you may be right, but Robert Bowling confirmed on Twitter both versions of the MP5 will be included. --[[User:TheTrueNight|TheTrueNight]] 02:38, 13 August 2011
::Hmm... this could prove interesting... if they pull it off right there could be pros/cons to each version, i.e. MP5k lets you run a little faster but poorer accuracy and MP5A2 gives you better accuracy but a little slower. Of course, they could just be making the MP5k a secondary, which would make me pretty mad.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 21:10, 12 August 2011 (CDT)
:::It's kinda hard for MW3's MP5K to be a secondary with that A2 stock. :\ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 21:20, 12 August 2011 (CDT)
::::That was the MP5A2 we saw, just with rails.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 22:24, 12 August 2011 (CDT)
:::::But the HUD said "MP5K Holographic". :\ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 00:15, 13 August 2011 (CDT)
::::::1of 2 things is happening. 1) IW has REALLY screwed up this time and put an A2 stock on a MP5k or 2) the HUD is just a placeholder from MW2 and will be updated. I can't tell if the handguard is full length or not from that clip.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 00:42, 13 August 2011 (CDT)
:::::::I think there going with the Machine Pistol Secondaries again, perhaps the MP5K is in the Machine Pistol Slot now, makes sense, considering it's smaller profile and IW's reputation, given that they had placed similar weapons in the catergory such as the MP9 and PP-2000. Might have a smaller magazine capacity or trade in something else over the full size version like firepower or accuracy. I know that one theory of mine, is that the A2 version may function similarly to the AKS-74U from Black Op's in the addition of mounting alot more accessories over the K variant, such as Dual Mags (Or Mag Clamps) or in this case, an underslung 40mm Grenade Launcher. [[User:Draco122|Draco122]] 05:26, 13 August 2011 (CDT)
::::::::The GSN-19 is a '''30mm''' grenade launcher dude. :| - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 17:16, 15 August 2011 (CDT)
:::::::::I was using that as the US equivalent, the only other '''30mm''' Grenade Launcher I see in use by US Forces would be the 37mm and that's usually designated to Police Riot situations and signal purposes, not exactly a great combat multiplier on a Sub-Machine gun. And did I mention the GSN-19 anywhere in that description or saying that it was '''30mm'''? [[User:Draco122|Draco122]] 01:23, 19 August 2011 (CDT)
::::::::::You said "Similarly to the AKS-74U from Black Op's in the addition of mounting alot more accessories over the K variant, such as Dual Mags (Or Mag Clamps) or in this case, an underslung '''40mm Grenade Launcher'''" <-(referring to the '''30mm''' GSN-19 that mounts to the AKS-74U). Just making a correction. Anyway I see a 40mm grenade launcher being mounted on a MP5 kinda silly, Half-Life anyone?

== Purchase Weapons like Black Ops? ==

Was just curious after watching the Survival Mode trailer, anyone else think that IW maybe following Treyarch's example and giving all their guns, equipment and killstreaks price tags in the Multiplayer Armory instead of unlocking them with experience and further ranks? I personally enjoy the idea, as in Black Op's it worked quite well, I could buy what I want and didn't need to work too much in order to get it. It was always in reach. What do you alot think about this? [[User:Draco122|Draco122]] 05:31, 13 August 2011 (CDT)
:I would prefer the money system. as you noticed, the upgrades where always in reach and it wasnt necessairi to perform a gazillion kills simply to get that one feature unlocked, that i like. [[User:WARthog|WARthog]] 08:23, 15 August 2011 (CDT)

:Robert Bowling has confirmed that there'll be no in-game currency (other than in survival mode) but there will be a whole new system in which weapons are unlocked. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 05:52, 13 August 2011 (CDT)

== One handed grip ==

I know its not supposed to be a sim, but a one handed grip on the pistols is going to get old quick [[User:Slayerofthesand|Slayerofthesand]] 21:24, 14 August 2011 (CDT)
:I agree fully.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 21:31, 14 August 2011 (CDT)
::Be thankful it's just a one-handed grip and not a sideways 'gangsta' style grip. Though now I've said that... --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 08:13, 15 August 2011 (CDT)
::And they wouldn't even have the shell casings eject into the player's face.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 06:33, 16 August 2011 (CDT)
::Would make you flinch if you were playing in 3D. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 07:08, 16 August 2011 (CDT)
:::Well in the real world you only one handed a pistol when your off-hand is not available, ie steadying on something, moving something, holding a flashlight, driving, disabled, etc. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 13:51, 25 August 2011 (CDT)
::::We all know how the CoD developers feel about the real world...--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 15:02, 25 August 2011 (CDT)
:::::lolz. :) - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:17, 25 August 2011 (CDT)

On a lighter note, they are supposed to be bringing back a fully sized MP-5[[User:Slayerofthesand|Slayerofthesand]] 21:34, 14 August 2011 (CDT)
:Old news pal. :\ - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 17:13, 15 August 2011 (CDT)

In Call of Duty if your off-hand is not available it's probably holding another gun. This doesn't seem to be the case so what are we doing, running around with our hand in our pocket? Actually that's less ridiculous than some of the stuff IW has done... [[User:USGIMar29|USGIMar29]]

== Infinity ward when will you ever learn ==

that russians don't use 9mm european smgs in frontline combat i throught Russians used heavy calber Russian weapons.--[[User:Gundoiler|Gundoiler]] 00:19, 16 August 2011 (CDT)

And I hate the EBR why do they have it in there!

know what I hate in COD games is that the player automatically thinks that they know every gun just by playing cOD.But I still like cod enough to play it--[[User:Gundoiler|Gundoiler]] 00:19, 16 August 2011 (CDT)

:They don't really care about the minor details. They just want to create a fun game, rather than to do a research about a weapon and recreate it in the game itself. I myself, also getting annoyed of the unrealistically bull**** stuff that the developers put in CoD, especially CoD:BO where 90% of the weapons are anachronistic. --[[User:RaNgeR|RaNgeR]] 03:14, 16 August 2011 (CDT)

We have WAAAAYYY passed the realistic mark with CoD. CoD is basically a playable action movie. If you want realistic, play Battlefield. Depending on how they present multiplayer, I play it because it is fun.--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 06:30, 16 August 2011 (CDT)

:Haha, yeah, the CODs since 4 aren't so bad if you just think of them as action movies. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 14:01, 16 August 2011 (CDT)

did anyone actually pay attention of what i wrote?- nazi fishwife

:You basically went for the rather tiresome 'an unrealistic game scored better in reviews than a realistic game, so people must prefer unrealistic games' line. This is a fallacious argument unless you can prove ''Modern Warfare 2'' scored more highly ''because'' it was unrealistic and that it would have scored less if the weapon choice had at least attempted to make sense. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:42, 19 August 2011 (CDT)

how is it a fallacious argument, action packed less realistic games are statistically better than realistic, slow and boring games i had proof i added all of the scores modern warfare 2 and all of the scores with operation flashpoint 2: dragon rising on the page but it got deleted because it wasn't set out in the acceptible fashion - nazi fishwife

:No, ''one'' unrealistic game got better review scores than ''one'' realistic game. The comparison is flawed, since you assume that ''MW2'' is better because the weapons used are unrealistic choices for the people using them (something no review praised the game for) rather than because the game is better at a mechanical level, or simply appealed to more reviewers due to the more "pick up and play" style of gameplay. I could just as easily claim that since ''Portal 2'' has a higher Metacritic score than ''MW2'', first-person games with no guns in them are "statistically better" than ones with guns. Would you accept this as an arguement for MW3 not letting you shoot anything? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:02, 25 August 2011 (CDT)

thats funny, i didn't know that portal 2 was a realistic war game?

:Way to miss the point. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:28, 25 August 2011 (CDT)

like when you started talkin about portal instead of a war game who's missing the point??

:Wow you just epically failed basic logic there ''and'' you didn't sign your posts... -.- [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 12:23, 28 August 2011 (CDT)

i didnt know logic came into commenting on a website are you fucking stupid or do you just not get what logic is???

:Interesting, your attitude is just as bad as your logic and your name, you better watch yourself Nazi. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 21:20, 28 August 2011 (CDT)

:Popular =/= Good. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:05, 24 August 2011 (CDT)

:: I love the EBR and its still in service. It's not in alot of games/movies so why do you hate it? - Joey1666

You're asking when Infinity Ward will learn? They did, and a majority of them quite the company. What's left of IW is nothing compared to who they used to be [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:09, 18 August 2011 (CDT)

I went kinda over board,What I ment about the EBR is not the gun I hate,Its the damage in-game what I hate.Other then that I love the EBR.An about the Russians I was just making a point like it making them look like a terroist army when they are not.Like they could be using a little more Russian weaponry.Right (makarovs men are the terroist if you didn't know),Anyways COD is still my favorite game series.--v 15:07, 20 August 2011 (CDT)[[user:Gundoiler|Gundoiler]]
----

== Confirmed guns still on Talk page ==

The following guns have been confirmed (either by official trailers or by live gameplay videos), and have already been added to the main page; therefore, they can be removed from the "unconfirmed" list on the Talk page (and IMHO, removing them will help prevent any confusion):
*FN Five-seveN
*Magpul FMG-9
*Colt M4A1
*Customized AK-47
*Remington ACR
*Heckler & Koch G36C
*Winchester Model 1887
*AA-12

== Hopefully this game turns out really good ==

I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one folks. Cause to be quite honest, it's good that Infinity Ward got Sledgehammer Games and Raven Software to help in the development of the game, rather than just them doing it all on their own like how painfully obvious it was in Modern Warfare 2 (Not that the game was bad in any way, but it could have spent a little more time in development). After all, Raven Software is famous for it's development of the Jedi Knight games (instant classics right there), The X-Men Legends games, the Soldier of Fortune trilogy and a few Star Trek games here and there, so definitely the Multiplayer aspect of Modern Warfare 3 will be much improved over MW2's, and more fun to play. While Sledgehammer Games was founded by two guys who used to be a part of Visceral Games (a subsidiary of Electronic Arts), and that company was famous for development of 007: Agent Under Fire, 007: Everything or Nothing, 007: From Russia With Love (Pretty good first person shooters back in the day when games in that genre weren't copying the whole 'duck-and-cover-while-your-health-regenerates' system like they do now from the more modern CoD games... *cough* stole it from Halo *cough*), and of course both of The Godfather games and the Dead Space trilogy. So definitely the single-player campaign of Modern Warfare 3 will be much better and probably less glitchy and just ''maybe'', a little more 'realistic' like how Call of Duty 4 almost nailed down. Granted, this game and every other Call of Duty that comes afterwards will never be intended as 'realistic military simulators', and I understand and accept that, since Call of Duty is nothing more than a game you play for enjoyment rather than for the realism. But for what it's worth, I'm really hoping that this game turns out just as good as the first Modern Warfare did, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 06:33, 29 August 2011 (CDT)

:Wow, couldn't have said it better :D I love how any time someone talks about COD, no matter the opinion, COD4 is ALWAYS mentioned as being good. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:31, 29 August 2011 (CDT)

== M14 Derivative Spotted Possibly M21 EBR ==

Far right picture in second row of confirmed screenshots/concept art http://beta.digitalwarfare247.com/games/modernwarfare3/183-more-concept-art-mw3 --[[User:DaiTaNam|DaiTaNam]] 15:34, 30 August 2011 (CDT)

:Yeah, I seen it too, over on the CoD Wikia. So psyched that it's back. Also, it appears Captain Price is back :( Oh well, can't have everything I want :( --[[User:TheTrueNight|TheTrueNight]] 23:03, 30 August 2011

::YAY! Captain Price!!!! I am soooo happy! Even though I suppose we already knew he'd be back... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 17:41, 30 August 2011 (CDT)

:::That art looks so awesome <3 --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 18:03, 30 August 2011 (CDT)

If you need proof that some people on the CoD wiki are morons, I got called a troll for saying this doesn't mean the M14 is confirmed. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 02:40, 31 August 2011 (CDT)

:Haha, they also don't allow real life gun info on the weapon pages. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 02:52, 31 August 2011 (CDT)
:: That was to stop it turning into a load of nerds swinging their virtual cocks around. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 03:07, 31 August 2011 (CDT)
:::Eh, the result is ignoring misinformation about weapons spread by the games (eg that there's such a thing as an M93R). Not exactly an improvement. Especially when the original games had writeups that talked about the real guns in their manuals. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:03, 31 August 2011 (CDT)

== New Trailer ==

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGyswpn6xzQ Bam.] [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 04:50, 2 September 2011 (CDT)
: And it's already been taken down; I think it got put up too early. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 04:57, 2 September 2011 (CDT)

::Was this the multiplayer reveal trailer? I've heard it'll come out during the live stream of CoD XP at 11AM LA time. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 05:41, 2 September 2011 (CDT)
::: In the meantime, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaYrfe1S650 here's] where someone else stuck it up. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 05:45, 2 September 2011 (CDT)

:::: I saw a hk usp on a guys back. -- Joey1666

:::::Why would a pistol be on a guys back?! XD - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 15:12, 2 September 2011 (CDT)

:: It's been officially released now; Kotaku has an article with it. Some interesting new stuff in there. Bouncing Bettys, anyone? -[[User:Rhainor|Rhainor]] 07:46, 2 September 2011 (CDT)

: Saw a Mk 46, USP Tactical, Remington MSR/XM2010, SVD. [[User:Halorocka888|Halorocka888]] 09:35, 2 September 2011 (CDT)

this trailer looks epic, when i seen the sniper 2: ghost warrior gameplay i knew they would have the msr on every new war game its in battlefield and this (waiting for homefront two lol)

:Why is the M4A1 still using 20-round magazines *facepalm*. Wanna bet that they will still hold 30 rounds? Using 20-round magazines on a modern assault carbine meant mainly for CQC = retarded. 15:24, 2 September 2011 (CDT)

: All footage - http://gamingeverything.com/?p=8478 -- [[User:Joey1666|Joey1666]]

== Equipment List (Not sure if it's leaked) ==

So, I was checking out Call of Duty Wiki for some MW3 news and I spotted this: http://beta.digitalwarfare247.com/games/modernwarfare3/195-mw3-multiplayer-info-blowout
It's a complete list with all equipment options, not sure if it's considered leaked. But from what I saw up to now some new weapons are:
:1. Mk.46/M249
:2. G36C w/ AG36 (YES!)
:3. PP-90M1
:4. MP5 (NOT the MP5K)
:5. AS50
:6. Remington MSR
:7. Dragunov SVD.
:Plus, the G36C has a really badass reload (kind of MW2 FAL-style) [[User:Gonzaga|Gonzaga]] 16:45, 2 September 2011 (CDT)

OHMYGOD OHMYGOD THE SIG P226 WASN'T LISTED UNDER THE PISTOLS SECTION NOOOOOOO ARGLEBARGLE AUUGHH BLARGBLARG *dies*--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 17:14, 2 September 2011 (CDT)

:Is this information considered leaked or can it be added to the main page? --[[User:RaNgeR|RaNgeR]] 17:30, 2 September 2011 (CDT)

::I don't think "some random gaming site" really counts as "official" as per the page. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:17, 4 September 2011 (CDT)

== COD XP 2011 Robert Bowling Interview ==

Shows some pretty interesting snippets of other weapons seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJUJcoCq37I&feature=feedu
I see there is a L118A? / Arctic Warfare Sniper variant, HK USP, PP-90M1, SCAR-L (4:19, appears very briefly as a name tag), P99 Confirmed (name tag), M320 / AG36 (seen on G36C), CM901 (appears with a Tan Finish, Sniper Scope and Suppressor and firing fully automatic) [[User:Draco122|Draco122]] 17:35, 2 September 2011 (CDT)

== weapon list ==

the list is supposed to be real and on the site it says the FAMAS was removed and the AK74U and AT4 are campaign only??

someone get proof please

: Well... that list isn't wrong, but there are more weapons than it states. Look at the Kotaku official screens, there's an M240B in one... which isn't listed. So I'd say that there's more than the list would lead you to believe.

:: No m1911 or Fal mentioned... Im dissapointed if that will be the final list. -- Joey1666

:::Yeah I was thinking that quite a few guns mentioned were missing, perhaps they're campaign-only like MW2's Dragunov. I hope not though, <3 the 240. Also the guy on that site claiming that the FAMAS was replaced by the QBZ-95 is a moron, they look nothing alike. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 05:45, 3 September 2011 (CDT)

I think we need to wait until it's a) confirmed and b) there are some pictures. Remember we're about identifying weapons in visual media, not in blog posts. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:02, 3 September 2011 (CDT)

[[image:MW3M2401.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M240 in MW3?]]

I'm not high right? This is the 240B in MW3 isn't it? --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 11:10, 3 September 2011 (CDT)

== Cheeky machine gun gameplay ==

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3i-vASNb68 Here] is a short video showing some Mk46 and MG36 gameplay. The MG36 is hilariously badly modeled, ultrasadface. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 06:59, 3 September 2011 (CDT)

Until the guy reloaded it and I saw the side of the weapon, I honestly had no idea that the model was meant to be the MG36... Also, from the brief shot I saw of it (during the loadout section) the L86-LSW has made a return. Unfortunately (from my perspective anyway)it's the old MW2 model with drum mag, carry-handle/barrel change and L85 handguard. --[[User:Spanner|Spanner]]

:That's not a real MG36, it is a G36KV "mocked up" as an MG36 > note that it has only four vent holes. Similar to the hybrid in Far Cry. And the gayass juggernaut has no weapon? OMG! Oh and one more thing, looks like there will be no emblem editor, just preset images and titles... hmmm... that's what I call regression. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 11:44, 3 September 2011 (CDT)

::I thought it looked too short to be an MG36, but that's probably the least concerning thing about it: The sights are wrong, the bipod is wrong, the drum magazine is wrong, not to mention the floppy charging handle during the reload sequence. Sort it out, Sledgehammer. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 12:15, 3 September 2011 (CDT)

:::EEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW!!!! I was so excited when I read there was an MG36, but... never mind :'( If the 240 is in but not on the list that gives hope to other things being in too, like the FAMAS, "AK-74U", and the M1911. I will be sooooo sad if they don't bring back the 1911 AGAIN. This game is looking, well, like another COD game, but seeing some of the COD4 stuff come back is making me a little hopeful. I also dislike Campaign only weapons, makes me feel cheated out of using them. :/ [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 17:08, 3 September 2011 (CDT)

::::I don't GET campaign only guns. The models are already there, why not just stick them in multiplayer too? Just feels like wasted space. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 17:19, 3 September 2011 (CDT)

:::::Well, it means they don't have to be balanced for multiplayer use. Games where all the singleplayer weapons are designed to be fair to other players who don't exist are kinda depressing. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:18, 4 September 2011 (CDT)

::::::True, but the weapons that do feature in both single and multiplayer have different stats. For instance, in Black Ops the RPK had perfectly controllable recoil in single player, however kicked like a mule in multiplayer to make up for the extra 10 rounds in the magazine. They could even recycle the stats from the previous games the weapons have featured in as they were all considered fairly balanced. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 05:19, 4 September 2011 (CDT)

The MG36 from Battlefield 2 was also actually a G36KV. The sight rail with built in folding sights looks a lot like one made by [http://www.btdeutschland.com/BT-21142_web.jpg Brugger & Thomet].

Speaking of machine guns, I saw a picture of the PK Pecheneg in first person aiming down the sights, and the belt is on the wrong side. [[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 15:50, 4 September 2011 (CDT)

== PP-90M1 ==

This is not the same PP-90 that the gun redirects the user towards. One is a folding submachine gun, the other is a helical-fed submachine gun. They are two entirely different weapons, at least, according to Wikipedia: "other than sharing a manufacturer is unrelated to the similarly named PP-90M."[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PP-90M1] Also, if it hasn't been done already...looks like the PP-90M1 needs a page to itself. [[User:Arcdash|Arcdash]] 07:44, 3 September 2011 (CDT)
:I fixed that already. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 11:08, 4 September 2011 (CDT)

== WTF ==

In the new 'tango down' trailer, there is an m16a4 custom, that looks like a rocket launcher with parts of an m16a4 on it.
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DuUIy9snIk-E%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded (you need a YT account to view this)-teobery
:Are you talking about the thing at about 45 seconds? looks like a remote ground drone that has a rifle/machine gun in the centre of some sort with missiles firing from the right side. Apart from that the only other thing that looks like a rocket launcher is pretty obviously just a rocket launcher, SMAW I think. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 12:40, 4 September 2011 (CDT)

No, it's at 53. If you look at the bottom right hand corner you see it saying 'm16a4 custom'

Lol that's the M153 SMAW, the reason it says 'M16A4 custom' is that the player has expended their ammo and the game is auto-switching to their primary weapon. --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 12:58, 4 September 2011 (CDT)

== More vids are out ==
More vids have been released from the XP event. Here's what I've seen.
* Brand-new reload animation for the G36C. I can't describe it that well, one of the MP vids for the "Kill Confirmed" game mode features it.
* USAS-12 uses the box mag and is restricted to 6 or 8 rounds a mags (couldn't see that well. MW still using pictogram ammo counters)
* There are 2 different MP5 pickup icons. One is a stockless MP5K with a 15-rd mag, while the other is a full-size and full-stock MP5 with the 30-rounder.
* MP9 has a slightly altered reload animation (character now give the seated mag a tap)
I'll try to grab as many of these vids as I can and get you guys caps if possible. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 19:39, 4 September 2011 (CDT)

:MP5K is likely placed as a Machine Pistol Option while the MP5 is featured as the Primary Option, if thats the case I can predict people running around with both MP5's. HK Fanboys incoming, not that there's anything wrong HK [[User:Draco122|Draco122]] 14:17, 6 September 2011 (CDT)

::The problem is if people can have machine pistols and SMGs as sidearms, why would anyone use pistols? I do, but almost no one else will. I saw a video where a guy pulled out his FMG9 and got a triple kill in half a mag in one burst. How is that a sidearm??? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 15:52, 6 September 2011 (CDT)

:::A lot of people will have ridiculous secondaries anyway thanks to Overkill :\ --[[User:Chrausis|Chrausis]] 16:21, 6 September 2011 (CDT)

::::The thing that gets me is why does this game have two full-auto shotguns when they're almost identical performance wise? - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 18:15, 6 September 2011 (CDT)

:::::That's wierd too, but I'll bet they don't shoot farther than 10 feet, so it won't matter that much :/ [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:52, 6 September 2011 (CDT)

M1911 pistol series

2011-09-03T19:31:26Z

USGIMar29: /* Kimber Custom TLE II */

'''The M1911A1 pistol and variants are used by the following actors in the following movies, television series, anime, and video games:'''

==Specifications==
''(1911 - Present)''

'''Type:''' Pistol

'''Caliber:''' 11.43x23mm/.45 Automatic Colt Pistol(ACP)
(Various calibers in clone copies including .22 LR, .380 ACP, .38 Super, 9x19mm, .40 S&W, .357 SIG, 10mm Auto, and .45 GAP)

'''Capacity:''' 7+1 (original), 8, 9, 10, 15,(all single stack mags for original M1911A1) 30 drum. Various capacities for clone copies.

'''Fire Modes:''' Semi-automatic (single action)

==Information==
[[Image:M1911vs.M1911A1.jpg|thumb|right|350px|M1911 to M1911A1 comparison pictures.]]
The 1911 pistol is considered by many gun collectors and veterans to be the greatest self-loading pistol ever made and the grandfather of the modern handgun, which despite its age is still used alongside modern pistols today. Designed by John Moses Browning in 1910 with patent dates going as far back as 1897, the .45 caliber pistol was adopted into the U.S. military arsenal February 14, 1911. Browning had combined traits of his former pistols and built a prototype around the recently-developed .45 ACP round. The end result was the M1911.

Browning sold the pistol to Colt, the first major company that would market the handgun. During initial testing in the military trials, the M1911 fired 1,000 rounds flawlessly, becoming the first self-loading pistol to pass with a 100% grade. After World War I, the military modified the M1911 design to optimize it for combat, adding a slightly larger ejection port, shortening the trigger, extending the grip safety tang to help prevent "slide bite", and adding an arched mainspring housing to allow the gun to better fit in the user's hand. The new firearm was called the Colt M1911A1. Many companies manufactured the M1911 for the U.S. military besides Colt, including Remington and Springfield Armory. The M1911A1's power and reliability kept it in circulation through the Korean and Vietnam Wars before the pistol began showing its age. However, it should be noted that at the time that the military began looking for a new sidearm, no new M1911's had been purchased since 1945 (note; this statement only applies to large contract orders, many small special purpose purchases have been made for 1911 pattern pistols since). In the 1980's, the U.S. Military held new military trials, during which they tested numerous pistols, the finalists being the SIG Sauer P226 and the Beretta 92F. Due to the high price of the SIG Sauer's magazines, the Beretta 92F was chosen to replace the M1911A1, a highly controversial decision to this day.

The M1911A1 remains alive in the hands of many gun enthusiasts and many U.S. Military special forces. Modern incarnations include models built by Colt, responsible for the M1911A1, Commander and Officers series, and Springfield Armory which faithfully continues building 1911's based on their original designs. Para USA manufactures a number of high-capacity double stack variations, including the P13 and P14 and the LDA (Light Double Action). Kimber, who is acknowledged as the first large scale factory mass produced "custom" 1911 manufacturer, produces versions such as the Desert Warrior and the Custom II, variations that are used by some special forces and SWAT teams.

Countless foreign copies are also in circulation, including Llamas, Mausers, and Argentinian clones. Despite being almost 100 years old, the 1911 pistol continues to be manufactured with almost no major design changes, and has proven itself as one of the most popular handguns ever made.

 

==M1911==
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Original Colt M1911 (dated 1913) - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:M1911-RAFIssue455.jpg|thumb|350px|right|M1911 - .455 Webley, a licensed handgun to the British Armed Forces during and after World War 1, later issued to members of the R.A.F. and Royal Navy]]
The original M1911 first issued to the U.S. Military during WWI. When identifying, note a smaller ejection port (not visible in photo), smaller grip safety spur, original diamond cut checker wood grips, a flat mainspring housing (on the rear of the grip below the grip safety), longer trigger, lack of trigger finger recess frame cuts, and a larger hammer spur.

===Film===
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| [[Mesrine: Killer Instinct]] || Vincent Cassel || Mesrine ||. || 2009
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| [[Public Enemies]] || [[Johnny Depp]] || John Dillinger ||. || 2009
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| [[Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull]]||[[Igor Jijikine]] || Colonel Antonin Dovchenko || . || 2008
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| [[The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor]]||[[Brendan Fraser]] || Rick O' Connell || .|| 2008
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| [[Hellboy]] || [[Angus MacInnes]] || Sgt. Whitman ||.|| 2004
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| [[Letters from Iwo Jima]]||[[Ken Watanabe]] || General Tadamichi Kuribayashi || .|| 2006
|-
| [[Superman Returns]]|| .|| Bank Heist Leader || .|| 2006
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| [[King Kong (2005)|King Kong]]||[[Evan Parke]] || Ben Hayes ||. || 2005
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| [[We Were Soldiers]]||[[Sam Elliott]] || Sgt. Maj. Basil Plumley || .|| 2002
|-
| [[Ghosts of Mars]]||[[Duane Davis]] || Uno ||. || 2001
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| [[The Lost Battalion]]||[[Adam James]] || Capt. Nelson Holderman ||. || 2001
|-
| [[The Lost Battalion]]||[[Phil McKee]] || Capt. George McMurtry ||. || 2001
|-
| [[The Lost Battalion]]||[[Rick Schroder]] || Maj. Charles White Whittlesey || .|| 2001
|-
| [[Enemy of the State]]||[[Gene Hackman]] || Brill || .|| 1998
|-
| [[Brother (Brat)#Colt 1911|Brother (Brat)]]||[[Victor Sukhorukov]] || Victor "Tatar" Bagrov ||. || 1997
|-
| [[Brother (Brat)#Colt 1911|Brother (Brat)]]||[[Anatoly Zhuravlyov]] || "Nervous" ||. || 1997
|-
| [[Brother (Brat)#Colt 1911|Brother (Brat)]]||[[Sergei Bodrov]] || Danila Bagrov ||. || 1997
|-
| [[Titanic]]||[[Billy Zane]] || Caledon "Cal" Nathan Hockley || Nickel Plated, Fully Engraved || 1997
|-
| [[Titanic]]||[[David Warner]] || Spicer Lovejoy || Nickel Plated, Fully Engraved || 1997
|-
| [[Escape from LA]]||[[Bruce Campbell]] || Surgeon General of Beverly Hills ||. || 1996
|-
| [[Michael Collins]]||[[Brendan Gleeson]] || Liam Tobin ||. || 1996
|-
| [[Darkman III: Die Darkman Die]]||[[Jeff Fahey]] || Peter Rooker || Nickel Plated || 1996
|-
| [[Darkman III: Die Darkman Die]]||[[Shawn Doyle]] || Adam || .|| 1996
|-
| [[Hudson Hawk]]||[[Carmine Zozzora]] || Antony Mario ||. || 1991
|-
| [[Hudson Hawk]]||[[Frank Stallone]] || Cesar Mario || .|| 1991
|-
| [[Darkman]]||[[Danny Hicks]] || Skip Altwater || .|| 1990
|-
| [[Miller's Crossing]]||[[John Turturro]] || Bernie Bernbaum ||. || 1990
|-
| [[Farewell To The King]]||[[Nick Nolte]] || Learoyd || .|| 1989
|-
| [[Blob, The (1988)|The Blob]] ||[[Jack Rader]] || Colonel Templeton Hargis || .|| 1988
|-
| [[Red Spectacles, The|The Red Spectacles]] ||. || Noodle-stand chef || .|| 1987
|-
| [[Brannigan]]||[[Mel Ferrer]] || Fields ||. || 1975
|-
| [[Shaft (1971)]] || [[Richard Roundtree]] || John Shaft|| || 1971
|-
| [[The Omega Man]]||[[Charlton Heston]] || Colonel Robert Neville ||. || 1971
|-
| [[Targets (1968)]]||[[Tim O'Kelly]] || Bobby Thompson ||. || 1968
|-
| [[The Professionals (1966)|The Professionals]] ||[[Lee Marvin]] || Henry 'Rico' Fardan || . || 1966
|-
| [[The FBI Story]]||[[William Phipps]] || Baby Face Nelson ||. || 1959
|-
| [[They Were Expendable]]||[[Robert Montgomery]] || LT John Brickley ||. || 1945
|-
| [[Bataan]]||[[Robert Taylor]] || Sergeant Bill Dane ||. || 1943
|-
| [[Sahara]]||[[Humphrey Bogart]] || Sergeant Joe Gunn || .|| 1943
|-
| [[Casablanca]]||[[Humphrey Bogart]] || Rick Blaine ||. || 1942
|-
| [[The Boss of Big Town]]||[[John Miljan]] || Craige ||. || 1942
|-
| [[High Sierra]]||[[Humphrey Bogart]] || Roy "Mad Dog" Earle || .|| 1941
|-
| [[High Sierra]]||[[Barton MacLane]] || Jake Kranmer || .|| 1941
|-
| [[The Maltese Falcon]]||[[Mary Astor]] || Brigid O'Shaughnessy || .|| 1941
|-
| [[The Maltese Falcon]]||[[Humphrey Bogart]] || Sam Spade || .|| 1941
|-
| [[The Maltese Falcon]]||[[Elisha Cook Jr.]] || Wilmer Cook ||. || 1941
|-
| [[Sergeant York]]||[[Joe Sawyer]] || Sergeant Early || .|| 1941
|-
| [[Sergeant York]]||[[Pat Flaherty]] || Sergeant Harry Parsons || || 1941
|-
| [[Each Dawn I Die]]|| || State Guardsmen, Prisoner || || 1939
|-
| [[The Roaring Twenties]]||[[Joe Sawyer]] || The Sergeant || || 1939
|-
| [[The Roaring Twenties]]|| || Bootlegger || || 1939
|-
| [[A Slight Case of Murder]]||[[Joe Downing]] || Innocence || || 1938
|-
| [[Bulldog Drummond Escapes]]||[[P.J. Kelly]] || Stiles the Butler || || 1937
|-
| [[G Men]]||[[Robert Armstrong]] || Jeff McCord || || 1935
|-
| [[G Men]]||[[James Cagney]] || Brick Davis || || 1935
|-
| [[G Men]]||[[Barton MacLane]] || Collins || || 1935
|-
| [[G Men]]||[[Edward Pawley]] || Danny Leggett || || 1935
|-
| [[The Racketeer]]||[[Kit Guard]] || Gus || || 1929
|-
|}

===Television===

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| [[A-Team, The| The A-Team]] || || Various characters || || 1983-1988
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| [[Reilly: Ace of Spies]] || [[Barry Stokes]] || Commander Cromie || .455 Webley || 1984
|-
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===Anime===

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| [[When They Cry|Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai]]|| Takano || || 2006
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| [[The Place Promised in Our Early Days]]||Okabe || || 2004
|-
|}

===Video Game===
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| [[L.A. Noire]]||.||.||2011
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| [[The Suffering: Ties That Bind]] || || dual-wield|| 2006
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| [[Silent Storm]] ||. ||. || 2003
|-
| [[Sum of All Fears, The (VG)|The Sum Of All Fears]] ||"M1911" || || 2002
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| [[Medal of Honor: Underground]] ||. || .|| 2000
|-
| [[UberSoldier]] || "Colt" || || 2006
|-
| [[Mafia II]] || w/optional 32-round magazine ||. || 2010
|-
| [[Eternal Darkness]] || . || .|| 2001
|}

 

== M1911A1 ==
[[Image:Colt1911A1PreWar.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Pre-War Colt M1911A1 Pistol Commercial - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|350px|right|World War II issued Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:NickelM1911A1.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Commercial '''Satin Nickel''' M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP. Manufactured on license by Remington Rand.]]
[[Image:NickelM1911.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Colt M1911A1 Pistol that was '''bright nickel''' plated by the owner (with Pearl grips) - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Nickel Plated M1911A1 Pistol with brown grips - .45 ACP]]

The U.S. military was re-issued the 1911 pistol in 1924, now designated the M1911A1. Changes to the gun included a larger ejection port, a shortened trigger, a longer grip-safety spur and slightly shaved hammer spur to prevent hammer bite, serrated front sight, a curved mainspring housing, simplified checkered grips (although diamond grips still appeared on some), and relief cuts around the trigger guard on the frame.

''Note many in the list below could actually be Colt Mark IV Series 70/80 Government Models, Springfield Armory, or another manufacturer. Instead of a former military issued M1911A1, unless its a war film. Since the markings of the gun aren't always clear, M1911A1 is a catch-all term. Being most 1911 manufacturers pistols are based off the M1911A1 platform.''

=== Film ===
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| [[The Expendables]] || [[Dolph Lundgren]] || Gunnar Jensen ||customized || 2010
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| [[Hunt to Kill]] || [[Steve Austin]] || U.S. Border Patrol Agent Rhodes || || 2010
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| [[Hunt to Kill]] || various || bank robbers || || 2010
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| [[Driven To Kill]] ||[[Steven Seagal]] || Ruslan Drachev ||. || 2009
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| [[In the Electric Mist]] ||[[Tommy Lee Jones]] || Dave Robicheaux || .|| 2009
|-
| [[Zombieland]] || [[Woody Harrelson]] || Tallahasse || Nickel Finish || 2009
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| [[Gran Torino]] ||[[Clint Eastwood]] || Walt Kowalski || Kept from Korean War || 2008
|-
| [[No Country for Old Men]] ||[[Josh Brolin]] || Llewelyn Moss || Bright Nickel Finish || 2007
|-
| [[Lucky Number Slevin]] ||[[Bruce Willis]] || Mr.Goodkat || . || 2006
|-
| [[Shadow Man]] || [[Steven Seagal]] || Jack Foster ||. || 2006
|-
| [[Unknown]] ||[[James Caviezel]] || Jean Jacket || . || 2006
|-
| [[Unknown]] ||[[Peter Stormare]] || Snakeskin Boots || . || 2006
|-
| [[Desperation]] || [[Kelly Overton]] || Cynthia Smith || . || 2006
|-
| [[Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada, The|The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada]] ||[[Tommy Lee Jones]]|| . || With M1911 grips||2005
|-
| [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)|Dawn of the Dead]] ||. || Ana's Neighbor || . || 2004
|-
| [[Flight of the Phoenix]] || [[Tyrese Gibson]] || A.J. || .|| 2004
|-
| [[Flight of the Phoenix]] || [[Dennis Quaid]] || Frank Towns || . || 2004
|-
| [[Flight of the Phoenix]] || [[Kirk "Sticky Fingaz" Jones]] || Jeremy || Extended edition only || 2004
|-
| [[Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow‎]] || [[Jude Law]] || Sky Captain || .|| 2004
|-
| [[Sniper 3]] || . || . || . || 2004
|-
| [[Dreamcatcher]] || [[Morgan Freeman]] || Colonel Curtis || . || 2003
|-
| [[Dreamcatcher]] || [[Tom Sizemore]] || Lieutenant Underhill || . || 2003
|-
| [[Tears of the Sun]] || [[Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje]] || Militia Officer || . || 2003
|-
| [[Bumer]] || [[Maksim Konovalov]] || Alexei "Killa" || With black finish and grips || 2003
|-
| [[Cabin Fever]] || [[Hall Courtney]] || Tommy || || 2002
|-
| [[Sum of All Fears, The|The Sum of All Fears]] || [[Ben Affleck]] || Jack Ryan || . || 2002
|-
| [[Sum of All Fears, The|The Sum of All Fears]] || [[Liev Schreiber]] || John Clark || . || 2002
|-
| [[The Transporter]] || [[Qi Shu]] || Lai ||. || 2002
|-
| [[We Were Soldiers]] ||[[Mel Gibson]] || Lt. Colonel Hal Moore || . || 2002
|-
| [[Windtalkers]]||[[Nicolas Cage]] || Sergeant Joe Enders ||. || 2002
|-
| [[Windtalkers]]|| [[Christian Slater]] || Sergeant Peat 'Ox' Andersen ||.|| 2002
|-
| [[Windtalkers]]||[[Roger Willie]] || Private Charlie Whitehorse ||. || 2002
|-
| [[A Beautiful Mind]] ||[[Ed Harris]] || William Parcher || . || 2001
|-
| [[Black Hawk Down]]||[[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]] || Sgt. Gordon || .|| 2001
|-
| [[Black Hawk Down]]||[[William Fichtner]] || Sgt. Sanderson || .|| 2001
|-
| [[Black Hawk Down]]||[[Johnny Strong]] || SFC Shughart ||. || 2001
|-
| [[Pearl Harbor]] ||[[Ben Affleck]] || Captain Rafe Cawley || . || 2001
|-
| [[Pearl Harbor]] ||[[Josh Hartnett]] || Captain Danny Walker || . || 2001
|-
| [[Battle Royale]]||[[Takeshi Kitano]] || Kitano-sensei ||. || 2000
|-
| [[Battle Royale]]||[[Anna Nagata]] || Hirono Shimizu ||. || 2000
|-
| [[Battle Royale]]||[[Kou Shibasaki]] || Mitsuko Sôma ||. || 2000
|-
| [[Rules of Engagement]] ||[[Samuel L. Jackson]] || Col. Terry L. Childers || . || 2000
|-
| [[The Iron Giant]]||[[John Mahoney]] || General Rogard ||. || 1999
|-
| [[The World Is Not Enough]]||[[Pierce Brosnan]] || James Bond ||. || 1999
|-
| [[The World Is Not Enough]]||[[Robbie Coltrane]] || Valentin Zukovsky || .|| 1999
|-
| [[The World Is Not Enough]]||[[Sophie Marceau]] || Elektra King ||. || 1999
|-
| [[Ronin]]||[[Robert De Niro]] || Sam ||. || 1998
|-
| [[Rush Hour]] ||[[Tom Wilkinson]] || Juntao || . || 1998
|-
| [[Saving Private Ryan]]||[[Tom Hanks]] || Captain John Miller || .|| 1998
|-
| [[Saving Private Ryan]]||[[Barry Pepper]] || Pvt. Daniel Jackson ||. || 1998
|-
| [[Saving Private Ryan]]||[[Tom Sizemore]] || Technical Sgt. Mike Horvath || .|| 1998
|-
| [[The Big Lebowski]]||[[John Goodman]] || Walter Sobchak || || 1998
|-
| [[The Postman]]||. || Various characters ||. || 1997
|-
| [[Most Wanted]] ||[[Keenen Ivory Wayans]] || James Dunn || Commercial Version with SureFire 310R || 1997
|-
| [[Jackie Brown]]||[[Samuel L. Jackson]] || Ordell Robbie || .|| 1997
|-
| [[Jackie Brown]]||[[Robert De Niro]] || Louis Gara || .|| 1997
|-
| [[Last Man Standing]]||[[Christopher Walken]] || Hickey ||. || 1996
|-
| [[Last Man Standing]]||[[Bruce Willis]] || John Smith || .|| 1996
|-
| [[Devil in a Blue Dress]] || . || Thug ||. || 1995
|-
| [[Crimson Tide]]||[[James Gandolfini]] || LT Bobby Dougherty ||. || 1995
|-
| [[Crimson Tide]]||[[Gene Hackman]] || Capt. Frank Ramsey || .|| 1995
|-
| [[Dead Presidents]] ||[[Bokeem Woodbine]] || Cleon || . || 1995
|-
| [[Dead Presidents]] ||[[Jaimz Woolvett]] || Lt Dugan || . || 1995
|-
| [[Desperado]]||[[Joaquim de Almeida]] || Bucho || .|| 1995
|-
| [[Desperado]]||[[Antonio Banderas]] || El Mariachi ||. || 1995
|-
| [[Desperado]]||[[Peter Marquardt]] || Moco ||. || 1995
|-
| [[Forrest Gump]] ||[[Tom Hanks]] || Forrest Gump || . || 1994
|-
| [[Forrest Gump]] ||[[Gary Sinise]] || Lt. Dan Taylor || . || 1994
|-
| [[In the Army Now]] ||. || Libyan Soldiers || . || 1994
|-
| [[Body Snatchers]] ||[[Forest Whitaker]]|| Major Collins || . || 1993
|-
| [[Body Snatchers]] ||[[Gabrielle Anwar]]|| Marti Malone || .|| 1993
|-
| [[Body Snatchers]] ||[[Billy Wirth]]|| Tim Young || . || 1993
|-
| [[Full Contact]] ||[[Chow Yun-Fat]] || Gou Fei || . || 1993
|-
| [[Blood In, Blood Out]]||[[Benjamin Bratt]] || Paco || . ||1993
|-
| [[Nowhere to Run]]||[[Jean Claude Van Damme]] || Sam Gillen || .|| 1993
|-
| [[Beyond the Law]] ||[[Charlie Sheen]] || Dan Saxon|| . || 1992
|-
| [[Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot]] || [[Roger Rees]] || Parnell || Nickel with pearl grips || 1992
|-
| [[Under Siege]] ||[[Steven Seagal]] || Chief Casey Ryback || . || 1992
|-
| [[Man Bites Dog]] ||[[Benoît Poelvoorde]] || Ben || . || 1992
|-
| [[Man Bites Dog]] || . || The Nightingale || . || 1992
|-
| [[Flight of the Intruder]]||[[Willem Dafoe]] || LCDR Virgil "Tiger" Cole || .|| 1991
|-
| [[Flight of the Intruder]]||[[Danny Glover]] || Cmdr. Frank 'Dooke' Camparelli || .|| 1991
|-
| [[The Silence of the Lambs]] || .|| FBI Instructor || . || 1991
|-
| [[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]] ||. || Mental Hospital Guard || Nickel Finish || 1991
|-
| [[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]] ||[[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] || T-800 Terminator || . || 1991
|-
| [[Bullet in the Head]] ||[[Jacky Cheung]] || Fai || . || 1990
|-
| [[Bullet in the Head]] || [[Waise Lee]] || Little Wing ||. || 1990
|-
| [[Bullet in the Head]] ||[[Tony Leung Chiu Wai]] || Ah Bee || . || 1990
|-
| [[Bullet in the Head]] || [[Simon Yam]] || Luke || .|| 1990
|-
| [[Bullet in the Head]] ||. || ARVN Soldiers || . || 1990
|-
| [[Fire Birds]] ||[[Tommy Lee Jones]] || Chief Warrant Officer Brad Little || . || 1990
|-
| [[Fire Birds]] ||[[Bert Rhine]] || Eric Stoller || . || 1990
|-
| [[Fire Birds]] || .|| South American Military Personnel || . || 1990
|-
| [[Goodfellas]] ||[[Joe Pesci]] || Tommy DeVito ||. || 1990
|-
| [[The Hunt for Red October]]||[[Alec Baldwin]] || Dr. Jack Ryan || .|| 1990
|-
| [[The Hunt for Red October]]||[[Sean Connery]] || Captain 1st Class Marko Ramius || .|| 1990
|-
| [[The Hunt for Red October]]||[[Scott Glenn]] || Cmdr. Bart Mancuso || .|| 1990
|-
| [[The Hunt for Red October]]||[[Courtney Vance]] || Sonar Tech Ronald "Jonsey" Jones || .|| 1990
|-
| [[Hard to kill]] ||[[Steven Seagal]] || Mason Storm || . || 1990
|-
| [[A Better Tomorrow III]] ||[[Tony Leung Ka-Fai]] || Cheung Chi Mun || . || 1989
|-
| [[A Better Tomorrow III]] ||[[Chow Yun-Fat]] || Mark Lee || . || 1989
|-
| [[A Better Tomorrow III]] ||[[Anita Mui]] || Chow Ying Kit || . || 1989
|-
| [[A Better Tomorrow III]] ||[[Kien Shih]] || Pat || . || 1989
|-
| [[A Better Tomorrow III]] ||[[Saburô Tokitô]] || Ho Cheung Ching/Tanaka || . || 1989
|-
| [[A Better Tomorrow III]] || || ARVN Soldiers || . || 1989
|-
| [[Return from the River Kwai]]||[[Chris Penn]] || Lt. Crawford || .|| 1989
|-
| [[In the Line of Duty: The FBI Murders]] ||[[Michael Gross]] || William Matix || . || 1988
|-
| [[Above the Law]] ||[[Steven Seagal]] || Nico Toscani ||. || 1988
|-
| [[Iron Eagle II]] ||[[Maury Chaykin]] || Master Sgt. Downs || . || 1988
|-
| [[Iron Eagle II]] || .|| American M.P.'s || . || 1988
|-
| [[City on Fire]] ||[[Chow Yun-Fat]] || Ko Chow || . || 1987
|-
| [[No Way Out]] ||.|| Marine Corp guards ||.|| 1987
|-
| [[Full Metal Jacket]] ||[[Matthew Modine]] || Pvt. Joker || . || 1987
|-
| [[Gardens of Stone]] || [[James Caan]] || Sergeant First Class Hazard ||.|| 1987
|-
| [[Cobra]] ||[[Reni Santoni]] || Sergeant Gonzales || . || 1986
|-
| [[Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home]] ||. || U.S. Marines || . || 1986
|-
| [[Spies Like Us]] ||[[Bernie Casey]] || Colonel Rhombus || . || 1985
|-
| [[Sheena]] ||[[Trevor Thomas]] || Prince Otwani ||. || 1984
|-
| [[Romancing the Stone]] || [[Manuel Ojeda]] || Zolo || Nickel || 1984
|-
| [[Year of Living Dangerously, The|The Year of Living Dangerously]] || . || Indonesian soldier|| . || 1982
|-
| [[48 Hrs.]] ||[[Nick Nolte]] || Inspector Jack Cates || . || 1982
|-
| [[Death Wish 2]] || . || Thug|| . || 1982
|-
| [[Thief]] || [[James Caan]] || Frank || Customized long slide configuration || 1981
|-
| [[Nighthawks]] || [[Sylvester Stallone]] || Det. DaSilva || Stock || 1981
|-
| [[Nighthawks]] || [[Billy Dee Williams]] || Det. Fox || Stock || 1981
|-
| [[The Final Countdown]] ||[[Soon-Tek Oh]] || Japanese Zero pilot Simura || . || 1980
|-
| [[Apocalypse Now]]||[[Martin Sheen]] || Capt. Benjamin Willard || .|| 1979
|-
| [[Apocalypse Now]]||[[Robert Duvall]] || Lt. Col. Bill Kilgore || Pearl grips || 1979
|-
| [[Rolling Thunder]]||[[Luke Askew]] || Automatic Slim || . || 1977
|-
| [[Three Days of the Condor]]||[[Robert Redford]] || Joe "Condor" Turner || .|| 1975
|-
| [[The Yakuza]]||[[Robert Mitchum]] || Harry Kilmer ||. || 1975
|-
| [[Three Days of the Condor]]||[[Michael Kane]] || S.W. Wicks ||. || 1975
|-
| [[French Connection II]] ||.|| thug ||.|| 1975
|-
| [[Killer Elite, The (1975)|The Killer Elite]] || [[Burt Young]] || Mac || nickel plated || 1975
|-
| [[Scorpio]] || [[Alain Delon]] || Jean Laurier || . || 1973
|-
| [[Prime Cut]] || [[Gene Hackman]] || Mary Ann || . || 1972
|-
| [[The Getaway (movie)|The Getaway]] ||[[Steve McQueen]] || Carter 'Doc' McCoy || . || 1972
|-
| [[The Omega Man]]||[[Charlton Heston]] || Colonel Robert Neville ||. || 1971
|-
| [[The Bridge at Remagen]] ||[[Bradford Dillman]] || Major Barnes || . || 1969
|-
| [[Bullitt]]||[[Pat Renella]] || Johnny Ross || .|| 1968
|-
| [[The Devil's Brigade]] ||[[Jack Watson]] || Corporal Peacock || . || 1968
|-
| [[Bonnie and Clyde]]||[[Warren Beatty]] || Clyde Barrow || .|| 1967
|-
| [[Operation Kid Brother]]|| Franco Giacobini || Juan || .|| 1967
|-
| [[Operation Kid Brother]]|| Agata Flori || Mildred || .|| 1967
|-
| [[Pork Chop Hill]] ||[[George Shibata]] || Lt. Tsugi Ohashi ||. || 1959
|-
| [[Fiend Without a Face]] ||[[Marshall Thompson]] || Major Jeff Cummings || . || 1958
|-
| [[Fiend Without a Face]] ||[[Terry Kilburn]] || Captain Al Chester || . || 1958
|-
| [[Fiend Without a Face]] ||[[Stanley Maxted]] || Colonel Butler || . || 1958
|-
| [[The Hunters]] ||[[Richard Egan]] || Colonel Dutch Imil || . || 1958
|-
| [[The Hunters]] ||[[Robert Mitchum]] || Major Cleve Saville || . || 1958
|-
| [[State Department: File 649]] ||[[William Lundigan]] || Agent Kenneth R. Seeley || . || 1949
|-
| [[Out of the Past]] || [[Paul Valentine]] || Joe Stephanos || . || 1947
|-
| [[It's a Wonderful Life]] || || Several of Marty's soldiers||. || 1946
|-
| [[Bullets or Ballots]] || [[Humphrey Bogart]] || 'Bugs' Fenner || . || 1936
|-
|}

=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Sarah Carter]] || Maggie ||[[Falling Skies]]||.|| 2011-????
|-
| [[Robert Culp]] || F.B.I.Agent Bill Maxwell || [[The Greatest American Hero]] ||.|| 1981-1983
|-
| .|| Gas Station Robbers || [[Mr. Poxycat & Co.]] ||. || 2007
|-
| .|| . || [[Prison Break]] || .|| 2005 - 2009
|-
| [[Joe Flanigan]] || Det. John Sheppard || [[Stargate: Atlantis]] / "Vegas" || Normally a Para-Ordnance P.14 (Alternate universe) || 2009
|-
| [[Muse Watson]] || Retired Agent Mike Franks || [[NCIS]] ||. || 2003 - ????
|-
| .|| . || [[CSI: Miami]] || .|| 2002 - ????
|-
| [[David Schwimmer]] || Capt. Herbert Sobel || [[Band of Brothers]] / "Replacements" || .|| 2001
|-
| .|| U.S. Army Paratroopers || [[Band of Brothers]] ||. || 2001
|-
| [[Robert Beltran]] || Chakotay || [[Star Trek: Voyager]] / "The Killing Game" ||. || 1998
|-
| [[Roxann Dawson]] || B'Elanna Torres || [[Star Trek: Voyager]] / "The Killing Game" ||. || 1998
|-
| [[Kate Mulgrew]] || Katherine Janeway || [[Star Trek: Voyager]] / "The Killing Game" ||. || 1998
|-
| [[Robert Duncan McNeill]] || Tom Paris || [[Star Trek: Voyager]] / "The Killing Game" ||. || 1998
|-
| [[Jeri Ryan]] || Seven of Nine || [[Star Trek: Voyager]] / "The Killing Game" || .|| 1998
|-
| .|| . || [[King of the Hill]] || .|| 1997 - 2009
|-
| [[Lance Henriksen]] || Frank Black || [[Millenium]] || .|| 1996 - 1999
|-
| .|| U.S. Army Soldiers || [[The Stand]] ||. || 1994
|-
| || Several Gangsters || [[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]] / "That Old Gang of Mine" ||. || 1994
|-
| [[ Denis Farina]] || Lt. Mike Torrello || Crime Story || .|| 1986 - 1988
|-
| [[Tom Selleck]] || Thomas Magnum || [[Magnum, P.I.]] || .|| 1980 - 1988
|-
| [[Ken Howard]] || Dave Barrett || [[Manhunter, The|The Manhunter]] || .|| 1974 - 1975
|-
| [[Paul Michael Glaser]] || Detective David Starsky || [[Starsky and Hutch (TV Series)|Starsky and Hutch]] / "Starsky and Hutch" || .|| 1975 - 1979
|-
| [[David McCallum]] || Illya Kuryakin || [[Man From U.N.C.L.E., The|The Man From U.N.C.L.E.]] / "The Vulcan Affair" ||. || 1964
|-
| [[Jim Zubiena]] || Ludovici Armstrong || [[Miami Vice]] / "The Hit List" || .|| 1984
|-
| [[Pavel Maikov]] || Viktor Pchyolkin || [[Brigada]] ||. || 2002
|-
| [[C. Thomas Howell]] || George "The Reaper" Foyet || [[Criminal Minds]] / "Nameless, Faceless" || . || 2005 - ????
|-
| [[Jon Seda]] || John Basilone || [[Pacific, The|The Pacific]] || .|| 2010
|-
| [[James Badge Dale]] || Robert Leckie || [[Pacific, The|The Pacific]] || .|| 2010
|-
| [[Emilie Ullerup]] || Ashley Magnus || [[Sanctuary]] ||. || 2008 - ????
|-
|}

=== Anime ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| || [[Angel Beats!]]|| ||2010
|-
| || [[Eden of the East]]|| ||2009
|-
| White Bell officer || [[The Skull Man]] || Nickel plated || 2009
|-
|Midori Mitsuya || [[The Sky Crawlers]] || || 2008
|-
| assorted characters || [[Batman: Gotham Knight]] || ||2008
|-
| assorted characters || [[Baccano!]] || ||2007
|-
| Nadie || [[El Cazador de la Bruja]] || || 2007 -
|-
| Various || [[Black Lagoon]] || || 2006
|-
| Kai Miyagusuku || [[Blood+]] || || 2005 - 2006
|-
| Murder || [[Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex 2nd Gig|Ghost in the Shell S.A.C. 2nd GIG]]|| heavily customized || 2004-2005
|-
| Policemen, Mugger || [[The Incredibles]] || || 2004
|-
| Mikura Suzuki || [[Mezzo DSA]] || || 2004
|-
| Asami Igarashi || [[Mezzo DSA]] || || 2004
|-
| Yakuza || [[Full Metal Panic!]] || || 2002
|-
| Vicious || [[Cowboy Bebop]] || || 1998-1999
|-
| Mikura Suzuki || [[Mezzo Forte]] || || 1998
|-
| Various Charaters || [[Mad Bull 34]] || || 1990
|-
|Olympus Police || [[Appleseed]] || ||1988
|-
| Inspector Koichi Zenigata || [[Lupin III]] || || 1977-1981
|-
| || [[Cat Planet Cuties]] || || 2010
|}

=== Video Games ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Notes'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Release Date'''
|-
| [[Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines|Commandos: Beyond the Call of Duty]] || ||unusable || 1999
|-
| [[Hidden & Dangerous]] || || || 1999
|-
| [[Fallout Tactics]] ||"Colt M1911 A1 " ||erroneously holds 12 rounds || 1999
|-
| [[Syphon Filter 2]] ||as the ".45" || || 2000
|-
| [[Devil May Cry]] || extensively customized || || 2001
|-
| [[Commandos 2: Men of Courage]] ||"M1911A" ||w/ unlimited ammo || 2001
|-
| [[Return to Castle Wolfenstein]] || ||can be dual-wielded || 2001
|-
| [[Battlefield: 1942]] || || || 2002
|-
| [[Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven]] || || || 2002
|-
| [[Medal of Honor: Allied Assault]] || || || 2002
|-
| [[Medal of Honor: Frontline]] || || || 2002
|-
| [[Commandos 3: Destination Berlin]] ||"Gun" ||w/ unlimited ammo || 2003
|-
| [[Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory]] ||w/ optional sound suppressor || erroneously holds 8 bullets || 2003
|-
| [[Call of Duty]] || || || 2003
|-
| [[Enter the Matrix]] || || || 2003
|-
| [[Medal of Honor: Infiltrator]] || || || 2003
|-
| [[Medal of Honor: Rising Sun]] || || || 2003
|-
| [[Vietcong]] || || || 2003
|-
| [[Shellshock Nam '67]] ||as the "9mm"|| ||2004
|-
| [[Battlefield: Vietnam]] || || || 2004
|-
| [[Call of Duty: United Offensive]] || || || 2004
|-
| [[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]] || || heavily customized || 2004
|-
| [[Conflict: Vietnam]] || suppressor can be attached |||| 2004
|-
| [[Call of Duty 2]] || || || 2005
|-
| [[Close Combat: First to Fight]] || .45 Pistol |||| 2005
|-
| [[Condemned: Criminal Origins]] ||".45 Cal" ||erroneously holds 9 bullets || 2005
|-
| [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]] ||as the "9MM" || || 2005
|-
| [[Shadow the Hedgehog]] || || || 2005
|-
| [[SWAT 4]] || Equipped with a tactical flashlight || || 2005
|-
| [[Call of Duty 3]] || || || 2006
|-
| [[Hitman: Blood Money]] || "Custom 1911" || heavily customized || 2006
|-
| [[Scarface: The World is Yours]] || w/ a Suppressor || || 2006
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Vegas]] || nickel ||unusable || 2006
|-
| [[Little Busters!]] || || || 2007
|-
| [[2 Spicy]] || || || 2007
|-
| [[Medal of Honor: Heroes]] || || || 2007
|-
| [[S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl]] ||Kora-919 || || 2007
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Vegas 2]] || nickel ||unusable || 2008
|-
| [[ArmA II]] || || || 2009
|-
| [[Call of Duty: World at War]] || || || 2008
|-
| [[Mirror's Edge]] || || erroneously holds 8 bullets || 2008
|-
| [[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots]] || Can be unlocked via password || || 2008
|-
|[[X-Men Origins: Wolverine (VG)|X-Men Origins: Wolverine]]||normal and nickel plated||unusable||2009
|-
| [[Cross Fire]] || || || 2009
|-
| [[Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker]] || ||w/ optional suppressor || 2010
|-
| [[Heavy Rain]] || Equipped with tan checked grips || || 2010
|-
| [[Bioshock 2]] || ||seen on a poster, not usable || 2010
|-
| [[Battlefield Play4Free]] || || || 2011
|-
| [[Duke Nukem Forever]] || gold-plated, laser aiming module attached || || 2011
|-
| [[World War II Online: Battleground Europe]] || || Released with 1.34 update|| 2011
|-
|}

 

==Colt Government Model==
[[Image:M1911A1TwoTone.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Two tone Colt Government Model M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:ColtGovernmentModel.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt Government Model M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Colt Goverment Model Stainless.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Stainless Colt Government Model M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]

Aside from Colt selling the M1911A1 to the US military, the gun was also sold under the name "Colt Government Model" to the civilian market, and called the "Pre-Series 70" guns today.

===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Red Heat]] || || Cleanhead assassins || Two-tone Govt. model || 1988
|-
| [[Sharky's Machine]] || [[Burt Reynolds]] || Sgt. Tom Sharky || || 1981
|-
| [[Sharky's Machine]] || [[Bernie Casey]] || Arch || || 1981
|-
| [[Sharky's Machine]] || [[Brian Keith]] || Papa || || 1981
|-
| [[Land of the Dead]] || [[Asia Argento]] || Slack || Two-tone Govt. model || 2005
|-
| [[Legacy of Rage]] || [[Brandon Lee]] || Brandon Ma || Two-tone Govt. model || 1986
|-
| [[Stander]] || [[David O'Hara]] || Allan Heyl || Two-tone Govt. model || 2003
|-
| [[Silence of the Lambs, The|The Silence of the Lambs]] || || FBI instructor || Deactivated || 1991
|-
| [[Cobra]] || [[Reni Santoni]] || Sgt. Gonzales || || 1986
|-
|}

===Television===
* Used by [[Tom Selleck]] in [[Magnum, P.I.]]

=== Anime ===

* Two Colt Governmentare used by Aria H Kanzaki in [[Aria the Scarlet Ammo]]

 

==Colt MK IV Series 70==
The Colt MK IV Series 70 was an improvement over the M1911A1/Government Model by redesigning the barrel bushing to grip the barrel and give the production gun much improved accuracy. These "collet" bushings worked well but were prone to breaking due to being smaller than the slide diameter, hence the original bushing was made standard once again in in 1988.
[[Image:ColtMkIVSeries70.jpg‎ |thumb|right|350px|Colt 1911 Series 70 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Colt-MKIV-Series70.jpg‎|thumb|right|350px|Colt MKIV Series 70, Nickel finish - .45 ACP]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
|-
| [[No Country for Old Men]] ||[[Tommy Lee Jones]] || Sherrif Ed Tom Bell || Combat Government || 2007
|-
| [[Four Brothers]] ||[[Mark Wahlberg]] || Bobby Mercer || || 2005
|-
| [[Way of the Gun, The|The Way of the Gun]] ||[[Ryan Phillippe]] || Parker || 9mm || 2000
|-
| [[Way of the Gun, The|The Way of the Gun]] ||[[Benicio del Toro]] || Longbaugh || 9mm || 2000
|-
| [[Pentagon Wars, The|The Pentagon Wars]] || || U.S. military guards || || 1998
|-
| [[Hoodlum]] || [[Tim Roth]] || Dutch Schultz || || 1997
|-
| [[Pest, The|The Pest]] || || Police officer || || 1997
|-
| [[Desperado]] ||[[Joaquim de Almeida]] || Butcho || || 1995
|-
| [[Copycat]] ||[[J.E. Freeman]] || Lt. Quinn || || 1995
|-
| [[Blown Away]] || || MIT Student Bomber || . || 1994
|-
| [[Falling Down]] ||[[Michael Douglas]] || William 'D-Fence' Foster || . || 1993
|-
| [[World Is Not Enough, The|The World Is Not Enough]]||[[Pierce Brosnan]]||James Bond||.||1993
|-
| [[Johnny Handsome]] ||[[Lance Henriksen]] || Rafe Garrett|| . || 1989
|-
| [[Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!, The|The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!]] ||[[O.J. Simpson]] || Detective Nordberg || . || 1988
|-
| [[Shoot To Kill]] ||[[Clancy Brown]] || Steve || . || 1988
|-
| [[Married to the Mob]] || . || F.B.I. agent ||.|| 1988
|-
|}

===Television===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Hunter - Season 3]] - "The Contract" || [[Don Edmonds]] || Det. Rayner || || 1986
|-
| [[Hunter - Season 3]] - "Overnight Sensation" || [[Sal Lopez]] || Tony Melendez || || 1986
|-
| [[Hunter - Season 2]] - "Case X" || [[Leo Rossi]] || Tony Cochran || || 1985
|-
| [[Hunter - Season 2]] - "Case X" || [[Sam Anderson]] || Vincent Cochran || || 1985
|-
| [[Hunter - Season 1]] - "The Snow Queen" || [[Dennis Franz]] || NYPD Sgt. Jackie Molinas || || 1984
|-
| [[V: The Original Miniseries]] || || Rebel leader || 9mm || 1983
|-
| [[Alarm für Cobra 11 - Die Autobahnpolizei]] ||.||.||.|| 1996-????
|-
|}

=== Anime ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| Julia || [[Cowboy Bebop]] || Stainless Steel Finish|| 1998-1999
|-
| Vicious || [[Cowboy Bebop]] ||Stainless Steel Finish || 1998-1999
|-
| Deunan Knute || [[Appleseed]] || || 1988
|-
|}

===Video Game===

 

==Colt MK IV Series 80==
[[Image:Series80blued.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Blued Colt MK IV Series 80 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:ColtMKIVSeries80.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt MK IV Series 80 with extended magazine - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Colt 1991A1 Series 80.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt MK IV Series 80 Stainless - .45 ACP]]

The Colt MK IV Series 80 was first produced in 1983 to replace the Series 70 and is notoriously known as the first 1911 to make major improvements to the design. The first major improvement was incorporating a new firing pin block safety system, where a series of internal levers and a plunger positively blocked the firing pin from moving until the trigger was pressed, thus eliminating the possibility of the gun discharging if dropped onto a hard surface or struck hard. The second improvement to the design was adding a re-designed half-cock notch. Instead of the old hook style, the flat-top style was made to eliminate the problem of the hook breaking when the hammer slipped and fell to half cock. You can tell the gun has this feature by pulling the trigger on half cock. If the hammer falls, the gun has this type of half-cock system. Since the hammer doesn't have a sufficient distance to fall on half-cock, the weapon will not discharge. Also the series 80's had three dot sights, unlike the old fashioned iron sights. Much like the Series 70, this gun was also sold with the "collet" type barrel bushing until 1988.

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Machete]]||[[Robert De Niro]]||Senator McLaughlin||Nickel plated Engraved with Pearl Grips|| 2010
|-
| [[Street Kings]] ||[[Keanu Reeves]] || Tom Ludlow || || 2008
|-
| [[Heaven's Prisoners]] ||[[Alec Baldwin]] || Dave Robicheaux || || 1996
|-
| [[Carlito's Way]]|| [[Luis Guzmán]] || Pachanga || || 1993
|-
| [[Scent of a Woman]] || [[Al Pacino]] || Lt. Col. Frank Slade || || 1992
|-
| [[Romper Stomper]]|| [[Alex Scott]] || Martin || || 1992
|-
| [[Guarding Tess]] || Unknown Actor || Federal Agent || ||1994
|-
| [[F/X]] || [[Cliff De Young]] || Lipton || || 1986
|-
|}

===Television===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Walter Gotell]] || Mark Klizer || [[Miami Vice]] / When Irish Eyes are Crying || Heavily customized || 1984 - 1989
|-
|}

===Anime===

===Video Game===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Referred as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Release date'''
|-
| [[Tomb Raider: Anniversary]]||dual pistols||with Commander ring-hammers||always dual-wielded|| 2007
|-
|}
 

==Colt MK IV Series 80 Combat Elite==
[[Image:ColtMkIVSeries80CombatElite.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt MK IV Series 80 Combat Elite - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:80elite6-1-.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt Combat Elite - .45 ACP]]
===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Getaway, The (1994)|The Getaway]] ||[[Alec Baldwin]] || Carter "Doc" McCoy || || 1994
|-
|}

===Television===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Michael Weatherly]] || Special Agent Anthony DiNozzo || [[NCIS]]/ Chained || || 2004
|-
| [[Judson Mills]] || Francis Gage || [[Walker, Texas Ranger]]/ || || 1993 - 2001
|-
| [[Nia Peeples]] || Ranger Sydney Cooke || [[Walker, Texas Ranger]]/ || || 1993 - 2001
|-
|}

===Anime===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[New Dominion Tank Police]] || Embassy Bodyguard || || 1993
|-
|}

===Video Game===
 

==Colt Gold Cup National Match==
The Gold Cup National Match was a factory produced "custom" version of the Series 70 and Series 80 M1911A1 pistols that was purpose-built for improved accuracy, reliability, and handling in competitive shooting. Easily recognized by its raised adjustable sights and a sight rib on the top of the slide. Note the light hollowed trigger and slanted cocking serrations as well.

[[Image:ColtGoldCupNatMatch1911.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt Gold Cup National Match (Mark IV, Series 70) - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:ColtMKIV-Series-70-GCNM.jpg‎ |thumb|right|350px|Colt Gold Cup National Match (Mark IV, Series 70) with Pachmayr grips - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Colt Gold Cup National Match (Mark IV, Series 80).jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt Gold Cup National Match (Mark IV, Series 80) - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:ColtGoldCupNatMatchSS.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt Gold Cup National Match (Mark IV, Series 80) with stainless steel finish - .45 ACP]]

=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[U.S. Marshals]] ||[[Tommy Lee Jones]] || U.S. Deputy Marshal Sam Gerard || Stainless Steel Finish Promo Only || 1998
|-
| [[U.S. Marshals]] ||[[Wesley Snipes]] || Mark Sheridan || Stainless Steel Finish || 1998
|-
| [[Lethal Weapon 4]] ||[[Chris Rock]] || Detective Lee Butters || Stainless Steel Finish|| 1998
|-
| [[Getaway, The (1994)|The Getaway]] ||[[Kim Basinger]] || Carol McCoy || Stainless Steel Finish || 1994
|-
| [[UHF]] || || || || 1989
|-
| [[Cobra]] ||[[Sylvester Stallone]] || Marion Cobretti || Special Order Gold Cup in 9mm|| 1986
|-
| [[Day of The Dead (1985)|Day of the Dead]] ||[[Gary Howard Klar]] || Pvt. Steel || || 1985
|-
| [[The French Connection]] ||[[Marcel Bozzuffi]] || Pierre Nicoli || || 1971
|-
|}

===Television===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[R. Lee Ermey]] || Himself || [[Lock 'n Load With R. Lee Ermey]]/ Episode 4: ''Pistols'' || || 2009
|-
|}
 

== Colt XSE ==
[[Image:ColtXSE.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt XSE 1911 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:O1070RG.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt XSE 1911 w/ picatinny rail and magazine removed - .45 ACP]]
A modern Colt 1911 with added front cocking serrations and a few cosmetic changes.

=== Film ===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Losers, The|The Losers]] ||[[Holt McCallany]] || Wade || || 2010
|-
| [[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]] ||[[Brad Pitt]] || John Smith || w/ Suppressor || 2005
|-
| [[XXX 2: State of the Union]] ||[[Samuel L. Jackson]] || Agent Augustus Gibbons || || 2005
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[2 Spicy]] ||"Handgun" || w/ picatinny rail ||holds 10 rounds || 2010
|-
|}

 

==Colt Commander==
[[Image:ColtCombatCommander.jpg‎ |thumb|right|350px|Colt Combat Commander - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt Commander M1991A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:ColtCombatCommanderSS.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt Combat Commander with Satin Stainless Finish and wood grips - 9mm]]
[[Image:Commander9mm.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt Combat Commander - 9mm]]
The Commander model 1911 is basically an M1911A1 with a 4.25" barrel (instead of 5") produced in various styles since 1951, and was chambered in 9x19 mm Parabellum, .45 ACP, and .38 Super. There are several versions of the Commander. The original aluminum framed "Commander" was renamed the "Lightweight Commander" in 1970, when other versions of this type appeared. The "Combat Commander" is an all steel version introduced in 1970. Later versions include the Colt Commander Gold Cup National Match, the Combat Elite, and the Concealed Carry Officer's model, which mated the Commander slide & barrel with the smaller frame of the Colt Officer's Model.

===Film===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Across the Line: The Exodus of Charlie Wright]] || [[Danny Pino]] || Gabriel Garza || black grip || 2010
|-
| [[A Perfect Getaway]] || [[Steve Zahn]] || Cliff ||. || 2009
|-
| [[A Perfect Getaway]] || [[Timothy Olyphant]] || Nick ||. || 2009
|-
| [[Crank: High Voltage]] ||[[Reno Wilson]] || Orlando || Engraved, akimbo || 2009
|-
| [[Street Kings]] ||[[Keanu Reeves]] || Detective Tom Ludlow || Gold Plated, Fully Engraved || 2008
|-
| [[Man on Fire]] ||[[Denzel Washington]] || John Creasy || . || 2004
|-
| [[Undead]] ||[[Mungo McKay]] || Marion || . || 2003
|-
| [[The Fast and the Furious]] ||[[Paul Walker]] || Brian O'Connor || . || 2001
|-
| [[Proof of Life]]|| [[Russell Crowe]] || Terry Thorne ||. || 2000
|-
| [[Dead Presidents]] ||[[Clifton Powell]] || Cutty || Nickel Finish || 1995
|-
| [[Dead Presidents]] ||[[N'Bushe Wright]] || Delilah Benson || . || 1995
|-
| [[Natural Born Killers]] ||[[Woody Harrelson]] || Mickey Knox ||. || 1994
|-
| [[Natural Born Killers]]|| [[Juliette Lewis]] || Mallory Knox ||. || 1994
|-
| [[Bodyguard, The|The Bodyguard]] || [[Tomas Arana]] || Portman ||. || 1992
|-
| [[Red Scorpion]] ||[[TP McKenna]] || Colonel Vortek || . || 1989
|-
| [[Above the Law]] ||[[Steven Seagal]] || Nico Toscani || . || 1988
|-
| [[Tequila Sunrise]] || [[Kurt Russell]] || Det. Frescia ||.|| 1988
|-
| [[Extreme Prejudice]] ||[[Nick Nolte]] || Jack Benteen || 9mm || 1987
|-
| [[Commando]] ||[[James Olson]] || General Franklin Kirby || Satin Nickel Finish || 1985
|-
| [[Thief]] || [[James Caan]] || Frank || .|| 1981
|-
| [[Marathon Man]] ||[[Dustin Hoffman]] || Babe Levy || . || 1976
|-
| [[The Eagle Has Landed]]|| [[Larry Hagman]] || Colonel Pitts ||. || 1976
|-
| [[Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia]] ||[[Warren Oates]] || Bennie || . || 1974
|-
| [[Hickey & Boggs]] || [[Tom Signorelli]] || Nick ||.||1972
|-
| [[Alphaville]] ||[[Eddie Constantine]] || Lemmy Caution || . || 1965
|}

===Television===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Bill Cosby]] || Alexander Scott || [[I Spy (TV Show)|I Spy]]/ || 9mm || 1966 - 1968
|-
| .|| || ''[[The Professionals]]'' || || 1977 - 1983
|-
| [[Amanda Tapping]] || Dr Helen Magnus ||[[Sanctuary]]|| || 2008 - Present
|}

===Anime===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Appleseed]] || Athena || || 1988
|-
|}

 

==Colt Officer's ACP==

[[Image:Colt Officers ACP.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt Officers ACP - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Series80Heat.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Colt Officers ACP M1991A1 Series 80 with ivory grips, used by [[Al Pacino]] in ''[[Heat]]'']]
[[Image:Pix1807193937-1-.jpg‎|thumb|300px|right|Colt Compact M1991A1 - .45 ACP - the Colt Compact is the Parkerized version of the Colt Officer's ACP]]

A 1911 with a 3.5" barrel and shorter grip frame, this weapon is commonly mixed up with the Colt Commander, which has a longer barrel, slide, and frame than the Officer.

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Sin City]] ||[[Nick Stahl]] || Roark Jr. || With two-tone finish || 2005
|-
| [[The Punisher (2004)|The Punisher]] ||[[Thomas Jane]] || Frank Castle / Otto Kreig || With two-tone finish || 2004
|-
| [[Exit Wounds]] ||[[Steven Seagal]] || Orin Boyd || || 2001
|-
| [[Heat]] ||[[Al Pacino]] || Lt. Vincent Hanna || With ivory grips || 1995
|-
| [[Conspiracy Theory]] || [[Julia Roberts]] || Alice Sutton || || 1997
|-
|}

===Video Games===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Notes'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Release Date'''
|-
| [[Fallout: New Vegas]] || || ||DLC || 2011
|}

 

== Colt Defender ==
[[Image:ColtDefenderM1911.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Colt Defender (compact M1911) - .45 ACP]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Sin City]] ||[[Powers Boothe]] ||Senator Roark|||| 2005
|-
| [[Already Dead]] ||[[Patrick Kilpatrick]] ||The Detective|||| 2007
|-
|}

 

== Auto Ordnance M1911A1 ==
Although it sometimes has a longer trigger, it is impossible to differentiate from a genuine M1911A1 at a distance or in the hands of an actor. The easiest way to identify it is the '''slanted grooves on the slide'''. The Auto Ordnance company is best known for its "[[Thompson Submachine Gun|Tommy guns]]", they also manufactured 1911 pattern pistols, at times to varying degree of quality depending on the ownership at time of production.

[[Image:AutoOrdnanceM1911.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Auto Ordnance M1911A1 - .45 ACP. This is a well worn blank adapted movie gun used in multiple World War 2 movies as a substitute for the Colt M1911A1]]
[[Image:M1911A1-AutoOrdChrome PF.jpg|thumb|right|350px|An Auto Ordnance M1911A1 with Nickel plated finish and custom pearl grips. This is the screen used gun that was carried and fired by [[John Travolta]] in the movie ''[[Pulp Fiction]]'']]

=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Exiled]] ||[[Roy Cheung]] || Cat || || 2006
|-
| [[Pulp Fiction]] ||[[John Travolta]] || Vincent Vega || || 1994
|-
| [[Carlito's Way]] ||[[Al Pacino]] || Carlito Brigante || || 1993
|-
| [[Killer, The|The Killer]] ||[[Shing Fui-On]] || Wong Hoi || || 1989
|-
|}

===Video Games===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Console'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| The Super Spy || Neo-Geo ||1990
|-
|}
 

== Kimber Custom TLE II ==
[[Image:KimberCustomTLEII OtherSide.jpg‎|thumb|350px|right|Kimber Custom TLE II - .45 ACP. This version has no rails and is the version used in the Television series ''[[Unit, The|The Unit]]'']]
[[Image:KimberCustomTLEII Plain.jpg‎|thumb|350px|right|Kimber Custom TLE II - .45 ACP. This version has no rails and is the version used in the Television show ''[[Unit, The|The Unit]]'']]
[[Image:KimberCustomTLEII SWAT.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Kimber Custom TLE II -.45 ACP with Surefire 310R weaponlight. This is a screen used pistol in the movie ''[[S.W.A.T.]]'']]
[[Image:KimberCustomIISWAT_Jackson.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Custom Kimber TLE II pistol with Surefire light - this is the exact pistol used by the team in the movie ''[[S.W.A.T.]]''. This one is [[Samuel L. Jackson]]'s actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:RLII.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Kimber Custom TLE/RL II pistol with intergrated rail to mount a weapon light.]]

=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Street Kings]] ||[[Keanu Reeves]] || Detective Tom Ludlow || w/ Surefire 310R Weaponlight || 2008
|-
| [[Street Kings]] ||[[John Corbett]] || Detective Dante Demille || w/ Surefire 310R Weaponlight || 2008
|-
| [[Street Kings]] ||[[Amaury Nolasco]] || Detective Cosmo Santos || w/ Surefire 310R Weaponlight || 2008
|-
| [[Live Free or Die Hard]] ||[[Cyril Raffaelli]] || Rand || || 2007
|-
| [[Hostage (2005)|Hostage]] ||[[Bruce Willis]] || Chief Jeff Talley || || 2005
|-
| [[S.W.A.T.]] || || L.A.P.D. SWAT Officers || w/ Surefire 310R Weaponlights || 2003
|-
| [[S.W.A.T.]] || [[Oliver Martinez]] || Alex Montel || || 2003
|-
| [[The Losers]] || [[Jeffrey Dean Morgan]] || Col. Clay || ||2010
|-

|}

=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Arija Bareikis]] || Officer Chickie Brown || [[Southland]] || w/ Surefire 310R Weaponlight || 2009 -
|-
| || || [[The Unit]] || w/ Suppressor || 2006 - 2009
|-
| [[Michael Cudlitz]] || Colonel Ryan || [[Over There]] / Prisoner || w/ Surefire 310R Weaponlight || 2005
|-
| [[Laurence Fishburne]] || Raymond "Ray" Langston || [[CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]] || || 2000 -
|-
| Maricopa County Sheriff Deputies ||TLE and TLE/RL models w/ Surefire Weaponligts||[[Police Women (series)]]|| || 2009 -
|-
| [[The Unit]] || [[Dennis Haysbert]] || Jonas Blane || ||2006
|-
| [[The Unit]] || [[Demore Barnes]] || Sgt. Hector Williams || ||2006
|-
|}

 

==Kimber Desert Warrior/Warrior==

[[Image:KimberDesertWarrior.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Kimber Desert Warrior - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:KimberWarriorII.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Kimber Warrior - .45 ACP]]

=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Date'''
|-

|-
|}

=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| || || [[The Unit]] || w/ Suppressor || 2006 - 2009
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Notes'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Far Cry 3]] || Warrior, with removable silencer || || 2012
|-
| [[Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2]] || Warrior version || Appears as "Kimber ICQB" || 2007
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Lockdown]] ||||Appears as "MEU (SOC).45"||2005
|}
 

== Kimber Stainless Target II ==
The Kimber Stainless Target II is a match 1911 with target sights.
*Chambered in .45ACP, 10mm, .38 Super, and 9x19mm

[[Image:KimberSSTargetII.jpg‎ |thumb|350px|right|Kimber Stainless Target II with target sights - .45 ACP]]
=== Film ===

 

== Kimber Pro Carry II ==
[[Image:KimberProCarryII 1911.jpg|thumb|325px|right|Kimber Stainless Pro Carry II - .45 ACP]]
The Kimber Pro Carry II is a 4" barreled aluminum-framed 1911 chambered in .45 ACP.

===Television===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Emily Proctor]] || Calliegh Duquesne || [[CSI: Miami]] || Stainless Steel Finish || 2002 -
|-
|}

 

== Strayer Voigt Infinity ==

[[Image:Infinity.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Strayer Voigt Infinity 1911 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Strayer-Voigt.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Strayer Voight Infinity 1911 with spare magazine and unfired rounds - .45 ACP]]

=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Jack Coleman]] || Noah Bennet || ''[[Heroes]]'' || Stainless Steel Finish with Compensator || 2006 -
|-
| [[Eric Roberts]] || Mr. Thompson || [[Heroes]] || Stainless Steel Finish with Compensator || 2006 -
|-
| [[Malcolm McDowell]] || Mr. Linderman || ''[[Heroes]]'' || Stainless Steel Finish with Compensator || 2006 -
|-
| [[Freema Agyeman]] || Martha Jones || ''[[Doctor Who (New Series)|Doctor Who]]'' || || 2008
|-
| [[Ryan Simpson]] || Luke Rattigan || ''[[Doctor Who (New Series)|Doctor Who]]'' || || 2008
|-
| [[Matt Smith]] || The Doctor || ''[[Doctor Who (New Series)|Doctor Who]]'' || || 2010
|-
|}

=== Anime ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| Vincent Volaju || [[Cowboy Bebop the Movie: Knockin' on Heaven's Door]] || || 2001
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Time Crisis]] || || || || 1995
|-
| [[Counter-Strike Online]] || Dual Infinity || Dual Infinity Custom Dual Infinity Final || Wielded akimbo || 2009
|-
| [[Counter-Strike Online]] || Infinity Silver || Infinity Red Infinity Black || || 2010
|-
|}

 

== STI Edge ==

[[Image:Stiedgestockimage1.jpg|thumb|right|350px|STI Edge - .40 S&W]]

=== Movies ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Date'''
|-
|[[Big Daddy Kane]] || Hunter || [[Dead Heist]] || || 2007
|-
|}

===Anime===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Date'''
|-
|[[Sky Blue]] || Shua || || 2002
|-
|}

 

== STI Eagle 6.0 ==

[[Image:STI Eagle 6.0.jpg‎|thumb|right|350px|STI Eagle 6.0 - 9x19mm]]‎

=== Video Games ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Notes'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Resident Evil 3: Nemesis]] || has purple frame and is mounted with a scope || || 1999
|-
|}

 

== Infinity Tiki-T==
[[Image:Tiki1 368 206.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Infinity Tiki-T - .45 ACP]]

=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Miami Vice (2006)|Miami Vice]] ||[[Colin Farrell]] || Det. James "Sonny" Crockett || || 2006
|-
|}

=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Emily Proctor]] || Calliegh Duquesne || [[CSI: Miami]] || Stainless Steel Finish || 2002 -
|-
| [[Brea Grant]] || Daphne Millbrook || [[Heroes]] / Eris Quod Sum || Stainless Steel Finish || 2006 -
|-
|}

 

== Safari Arms .45 ==
[[Image:Safari Arms .45.JPG|thumb|right|350px|Safari Arms with custom grips - .45 ACP]]
===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Wanted]] ||[[Angelina Jolie]] || Fox || Heavily Customized Matchmaster 5 || 2008
|-
| [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] ||[[Bruce Bhone]] || Andy || with a Surefire 310R/610R flashlight || 2004
|}

===Amime===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[New DOminion Tank Police]] || || || 1993
|-
|}

 

 

==Detonics ScoreMaster==

[[Image:Detonicsscoremaster.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Detonics ScoreMaster - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Scoremaster.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Detonics ScoreMaster (2nd Generation) with unfired rounds .45 ACP]]

=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Point Break]] || || || || 1991
|-
| [[RoboCop]] || [[Ray Wise]] || Leon Nash || || 1987
|-
| [[RoboCop]] || [[Allan Graf]] || Sal's bodyguard || || 1987
|-
| [[Commando]] || [[Vernon Wells]] || Bennett || || 1985
|-
| [[Police Academy 2]] ||[[David Graf]] || Eugene Tackleberry || || 1985
|-
|}

=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Edward James Olmos]] || Lt. Martin Castillo || [[Miami Vice]] / The Prodigal Son || || 1984 - 1989
|-
| [[Philip Michael Thomas]] || Detective Ricardo 'Rico' Tubbs || [[Miami Vice]] || || 1984 - 1989
|-
|}

 

==Detonics CombatMaster==

[[Image:Detonicscombat-master.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Detonics Combat Master - .45 ACP]]

=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[RoboCop 2]] || [[Michael Medeiros]] || Catzo || Two-Tone version || 1990
|-
|}

=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Don Johnson]] || Det. James 'Sonny' Crockett || [[Miami Vice]] / The Prodigal Son || || 1984 - 1989
|-
|}

=== Anime===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Karas]] || Yakuza Boss || || 2005-2007
|-
|}

 

==Detonics ServiceMaster==

[[Image:Detonicsservicemaster.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Detonics ServiceMaster - .45 ACP]]

=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]] ||[[Linda Hamilton]] || Sarah Connor || CombatMaster slide, extended barrel with barrel weight attached || 1991
|-
| [[L.A. Takedown]] || [[Alex McArthur]] || Patrick McLaren || . || 1989
|-
| [[Runaway]] ||[[Tom Selleck]] || Sgt. Jack R. Ramsay || CombatMaster slide, extended barrel with barrel weight attached || 1984
|-
| [[Runaway]] ||[[Cynthia Rhodes]] || Officer Karen Thompson || CombatMaster slide, extended barrel with barrel weight attached || 1984
|-
|}

 

== Smith & Wesson SW1911 ==

[[ Image:S&WSW1911.jpg‎|thumb|right|350px|Smith & Wesson SW1911 Blued version - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:S&WM1911SS.jpg‎|thumb|right|350px|Smith & Wesson SW1911 Stainless version with second set of grip ridges and integral rail on the frame - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:S&W M1911SC.jpg‎|thumb|right|350px|Smith & Wesson SW1911SC (Scandium Commander) Ultra Light Weight - Blued version - .45 ACP The SW1911SC is no longer in production.]]

===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Stone Cold (2005)|Stone Cold]] || [[Tom Selleck]] || Chief Jesse Stone || SW1911SC || 2005
|-
| [[Jesse Stone: Death in Paradise]] || [[Tom Selleck]] || Chief Jesse Stone || SW1911SC || 2006
|-
| [[Jesse Stone: Night Passage]] || [[Tom Selleck]] || Chief Jesse Stone || SW1911SC || 2006
|-
| [[Jesse Stone: Sea Change]] || [[Tom Selleck]] || Chief Jesse Stone || SW1911SC || 2007
|-
| [[Jesse Stone: Thin Ice]] || [[Tom Selleck]] || Chief Jesse Stone || SW1911SC || 2009
|-
| [[Jesse Stone: No Remorse]] || [[Tom Selleck]] || Chief Jesse Stone || SW1911SC || 2010
|-
|}

===Television===
* [[Tom Selleck]] as A.J. Cooper in ''[[Las Vegas]]'' (with Stag grips) (2007-2008)
* [[Bones]]
* [[Muse Watson]] as Mike Franks in ''[[NCIS]]''.
 

== Springfield Armory M1911 - A1 ==
[[Image:SpringfieldArmoryM1911.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Springfield Armory M1911-A1 "Mil-Spec" Parkerized version with Springfield logo grips - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:SpringfieldM1911SS.jpg‎ |thumb|right|350px|Springfield Armory M1911-A1 "GI" Stainless Steel version with U.S.-marked grips - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:SpringMil.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Springfield Mil-Spec 1911A1 .45]]
[[Image:SpringfieldM1911SSChampion.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Springfield Armory Champion Stainless Steel semi-compact slide/full sized grip, 8 round - .45 ACP]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Sin City]] || [[Benicio del Toro]] || Det. Jack "Jackie Boy" Rafferty || Nickel Finish || 2005
|-
| [[Sin City]] ||[[Josh Hartnett]] || "The Man" || Nickel Finish w/ Suppressor || 2005
|-
| [[Sin City]] ||[[Clive Owen]] || Dwight McCarthy || Nickel Finish || 2005
|-
| [[Sin City]] || [[Mickey Rourke]] || Marv || Nickel Finish || 2005
|-
| [[Resident Evil]] ||[[Milla Jovovich]] || Alice || Stainless Steel Finish || 2002
|-
| [[Resident Evil]] ||[[Michelle Rodriguez]] || Rain Ocampo || Stainless Steel Finish || 2002
|-
| [[Face/Off]] ||[[Nicolas Cage]] || Castor Troy || Gold Plated w/ Custom Grips || 1997
|-
| [[Se7en]] ||[[Brad Pitt]] || Detective Mills || Customized || 1995
|-
| [[Léon (The Professional)]] ||[[Natalie Portman]] || Mathilda || Customized, 9mm || 1994
|-
|}

===Television===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Jennifer Garner]] || Sydney Bristow || [[Alias]] || Springfield Armory Loaded || 2001 - 2006
|-
| [[Charlie Hunnam]] || Jax Teller || [[Sons of Anarchy]] || Springfield Custom || 2008-Present
|}

===Video Games===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Passwords'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Left 4 Dead]] || with flashlight under the barrel || || 2008
|-
| [[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots]] ||Springfield Armory Operator w/ Suppressor || || 2008
|-
| [[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]] || Springfield Armory Professional w/ Suppressor || || 2007
|-
| [[S.W.A.T. 3: Close Quarters Battle]] || Equipped with tactical flashlight || || 1999
|-
|}

 

==Springfield Armory Tactical Response Pistol (TRP)==
[[Image:SpringerTRP.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Springfield Armory Tactical Response Pistol - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Springfield Armory TRP.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Springfield Armory Tactical Response Pistol Light Rail variant - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Springfield Armory TRP Operator.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Springfield Armory TRP Operator - .45 ACP]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Knight and Day]] || [[Tom Cruise]] || Roy Miller || Operator model || 2010
|-
|}

===Television===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Joe Mantegna]] || SSA David Rossi || [[Criminal Minds]] / || || 2007 -
|-
| [[Dylan Bruno]] || Agent Colby Granger || [[Numb3rs]] / || || 2005 -
|-
|}

 

== AMT Hardballer ==
[[Image:Hardballer_Longslide.jpg|thumb|right|350px|AMT Hardballer Longslide - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:AMTHardballer5in.jpg|thumb|right|350px|AMT Hardballer with 5" barrel - .45 ACP]]

=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[My Name Is Bruce]] ||[[Bruce Campbell]] || Bruce Campbell || Longslide || 2007
|-
| [[Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles]] ||[[Alex Kuzelicki]] || Jean-Paul Chagal || Longslide || 2001
|-
| [[Natural Born Killers]] || || police officer || Longslide || 1994
|-
| [[Terminator|The Terminator]] ||[[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] || The Terminator || Longslide w/ Laser Scope || 1984
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Referred as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Hitman: Blood Money]]||Silverballer||w/ variety of acessories|| 2006
|-
| [[Hitman: Contracts]]||Silverballer||Available w/ suppressor|| 2004
|-
| [[Hitman 2:Silent Assassin|Hitman 2: Silent Assassin]]||Silverballer||Available w/ suppressor||2002
|-
| [[Hitman: Codename 47]]||AMT Hardballer|| ||2000
|-
|}

=== Anime ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Black Lagoon]] || || Chang || Longslide || 2006
|-
|}

 

==Para-Ordnance P-10==
A sub-compact, double stack .45 caliber pocket 1911 that holds 10 rounds.
[[Image:Para-OrdnanceP-10.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Para-Ordnance P-10 - .45 ACP]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Hostage (2005)|Hostage]] ||[[Ben Foster]] || Mars || Stainless Steel || 2005
|-
| [[The Boondock Saints]] ||[[Billy Connolly]] || Il Duce || Matte Black Finish || 1999

|}

 

==Para-Ordnance P-12==

A sub-compact, double stack .45 caliber pocket 1911.

[[Image:Para Ordinance P-12 45.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Para-Ordnance P-12 - .45 ACP]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Rush Hour 2]] ||[[Roselyn Sanchez]] || Isabella Molina || Two Tone Finish || 2001
|-
| [[Rush Hour 2]] ||[[Ziyi Zhang]] || Hu Li || Two Tone Finish || 2001
|-
|}

 

==Para-Ordnance P-13==

A compact, double stack .45 caliber pistol.

[[Image:Para Ordinance P-13 45.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Para-Ordnance P-13 - .45 ACP]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)|Assault on Precinct 13]] ||[[Ethan Hawke]] || Sgt. Jake Roenick || Stainless Steel || 2005
|-
| [[Romeo & Juliet]] ||[[Leonardo DiCaprio]] || Romeo || Stainless Steel || 1996
|-
|}

 

==Para-Ordnance P-14==

A full-size, double stack .45 caliber pistol. Famously known as the 14-shot 1911 pistol, double the capacity of the traditional M1911A1.

[[Image:Para Ordinance P-14 45.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Para-Ordnance P-14 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:ParaOrdnanceP14.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Para-Ordnance P-14 (Two Tone) - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Para-sx1445er.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Para-Ordnance S14-45 Limited (Stealth Edition) - .45 ACP]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[A-Team, The (2010)|The A-Team]]'' || [[Liam Neeson]] || Colonel John "Hannibal" Smith || || 2010
|-
| ''[[A-Team, The (2010)|The A-Team]]'' || [[Patrick Wilson]] || Lynch || || 2010
|-
| [[Resident Evil: Apocalypse]] || [[Milla Jovovich]] || Alice || Matte Black Finish || 2004
|-
| [[The Boondock Saints]] ||[[Billy Connolly]] || II Duce || Stainless Steel || 1999
|-
|}

=== Television ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Joe Flanigan]] || Lt. Col. John Sheppard || [[Stargate: Atlantis]] || || 2004 - 2009
|-
|}

===Anime===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Armitage III]] || Ross Syllabus || Custom grips, sights, magwell || 1994
|-
|}

===Video Games===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
|[[Global Operations]]||Para P14||w/ suppressor and laser aiming module||||2002
|-
|}

 

==Para-Ordnance P-18==

A full size, double stack 9x19mm pistol. Sometimes called the P18.9, which is proper designation, but then again P14.45 and P16.40 are also proper designations, but not required to be said in full every time.

[[Image:Para Ordinance P-18 9mm.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Para-Ordnance P-18 - 9x19mm]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Hitman]] ||[[Timothy Olyphant]] || Agent 47 || Stainless Steel w/ Suppressor || 2007
|-
|}

 

==Para-Ordnance LDA==

Similar to the P-14, the Para Ordnance LDA (Light Double Action) is a full size, double stack .45 caliber, holding 14 shots. Unlike the P-14 or any other 1911 before though, it is outfitted with a double action trigger. They are built as double/singles with exposed hammers and double action only models with shaved down flat hammers.

[[Image:Para Ordinance LDA hammer.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Para-Ordnance LDA w/ exposed hammer - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Para Ordinance LDA hammerless.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Para-Ordnance LDA w/ shaved flat hammer - .45 ACP]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[The Boondock Saints II: All Saints Day]] || [[Clifton Collins, Jr.]] || Romeo || Custom finish w/ suppressor || 2009
|-
| [[Hitman]] ||[[Timothy Olyphant]] || Agent 47 || Stainless Steel || 2007
|-
|}
 

==Para-Ordnance Nite-Tac==
[[Image:Para-Ordnance Nite-Tac.JPG|thumb|right|350px|Para-Ordnance Nite-Tac stainless steel - .45 ACP.]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
|''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]'' || [[Milla Jovovich]] || Alice || Stainless Steel finish, often used akimbo ||2007
|-
|''[[Shoot 'Em Up]]'' || [[Clive Owen]] || Mr. Smith || ||2007
|-
|''[[Legion]]'' || [[Tyrese Gibson]] || Kyle || Stainless Steel finish ||2010
|-
|''[[Legion]]'' || [[Willa Holland]] || Audrey || Stainless Steel finish ||2010
|-
| ''[[In Time]]'' || [[Justin Timberlake]] || Will Salas || Stainless steel finish || 2011
|-
| ''[[In Time]]'' || [[Amanda Seyfried]] || Sylvia Weis || Stainless Steel finish || 2011
|-
|}
 

==Para-Ordnance Nite-Hawg==
[[Image:PANite-Hawg.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Para-Ordnance Warthog - .45 ACP.]]

===Film===
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
|[[Max Payne (2008)]] || [[Mila Kunis]] || Mona Sax || Sound Suppressed || 2008
|-
|[[Shoot 'Em Up]] || [[Paul Giamatti]] || Karl Hertz || Spare Rod ||2007
|-
|}
 

==Para 1911 G.I. Expert==
[[Image:Para1911G.I..jpg|thumb|right|400px|Para 1911 G.I. Expert - .45 ACP]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
|[[Red (2010)]] || [[Bruce Willis]] || Frank Moses || ambidextrous safety || 2010
|-
|}
 

==Rock Island Armory 1911==
[[Image:Rock Island Armory 1911.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Rock Island Armory 1911 -.45 ACP]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
|[[Planet Terror]] || [[Quentin Tarantino]] || Rapist Soldier || ||2007
|-
|}
 

==Rock Island Armory Commander==
This is a inexpensive copy of a Colt Commander made in the Philippines. Although it is called a Commander the slide is slightly shorter than a Colt Commander.
[[Image:RIA Commander.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Rock Island Armory Commander - .45 ACP]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Starsky and Hutch]] ||[[Ben Stiller]] || David Starsky || w/ Colt Series 70 Checkered Grips || 2004
|-
|}

 
==SIG-Sauer GSR==
This is the M1911 version made by SIG-Sauer, GSR stands for Granite Series Revolution, The SIG Granite Series was awarded the 2004 Handgun of the Year Award by the Shooting Industry Academy of Excellence.
[[Image:SIG-GSR.jpg|thumb|right|350px|SIG-Sauer GSR - 45 ACP]]
[[Image:SIG-Sauer Revolution.jpg|thumb|right|350px|SIG-Sauer GSR with stainless steel finish and accessory rails - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:SIG-Sauer GSR M1911.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Stainless SIG-Sauer GSR - 45 ACP]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Taken]] ||[[Liam Neeson]] || Bryan Mills || || 2008
|-
|}

===Television===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Omari Hardwick]] || Ty Curtis || [[Dark Blue (TV Series)]]|| || 2009
|-
| || || [[Weapon Masters]]|| || 2007
|-
| [[David Boreanaz]] || FBI Special Agent Seeley Booth || [[Bones]]|| || 2005-
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns Of The Patriots]]||SIG-Sauer GSR||w/ tactical weaponlight|| 2008
|-
|}

 

==Imbel M1911A1==
"Industria de Material Bélico do Brasil" (IMBEL) makes several copies of the basic 1911 pattern, in several calibers.
[[Image:Imbel.jpg|350px|thumb|right|Imbel 1911A1. .45 ACP]]
===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[City of God]] || [[Leandro Firmino da Hora]] || Li'l Ze || || 2002
|-
| [[City of God]] || [[Darlan Cunha]] || Filé com Fritas || || 2002
|-
|}

 

==Wilson Combat "Protector"==
Wilson Combat makes the "Protector" in .45 ACP, 9x19mm, .38 Super, .40 S&W, and 10mm.
[[Image:WilsonProtector.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Wilson Combat "Protector" - .45 ACP]]
===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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|-
| [[Saw]] || [[Michael Emerson]] || Zep Hindle || || 2004
|-
| [[Saw]] || [[Monica Potter]] || Alison Gordon || || 2004
|-
| [[Saw]] || [[Leigh Whannell]] || Adam || || 2004
|-
|}

 

==Norinco M1911A1==
Chinese copy of the M1911A1
[[Image:Norinco-1911-A1.JPG|thumb|350px|right|Norinco M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Norinco M1911A1.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Norinco M1911A1 with nickel finish - .45 ACP]]
===Film===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[From Dusk Till Dawn]] || [[Quentin Tarantino]] || Richard Gecko || With nickel finish || 1996
|-
|}

 

==Kimar 911==
[[Image:C72_Kimar911_0.png|350px|thumb|right|Kimar 911 in 9mm PAK]]

Italian manufacturer "Armi Chiappa" makes a blank firing 1911 replicas called "Kimar 911". Weapons come in 9mm PAK caliber (7+1 rounds) and 8mm blank caliber (10+1 rounds) and either black or 'nickel' finish. It is easily identified by its thick wooden grips with large screw holes. Minor drawback of the gun is completely unrealistic safety mechanism which visibly differs from the original 1911 one.

===Film===
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[XIII: The Conspiracy]] ||Jonathan Higgins || Calwin Wax || || 2008
|-
|}
 

==MGC M1911A1==
[[Image:MGCM1911A1.jpg|thumb|right|400px|MGC Replica M1911A1. Model Gun Corp of Japan made these excellent all metal replica handguns between the late 1960s and the early 1980s. A batch of original MGC M1911s were discovered and hit the market once again in the early 2000s for a limited time. Despite intentional dimensional differences between it and the real M1911A1, all the parts assemble and disassemble just like the real firearm.]]
===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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|-
| [[Day of the Dead (1985)]] || [[Gary Howard Klar]] || Pvt. Steele || Non Firing Scenes || 1985
|-
|}
 

==Bruni 1911==
The Bruni 1911 is an 8mm blank firing firearm. It was intended to imitate the M1911 and was also avaliable in chrome.
[[Image:Bruni8mmM1911BlankGun.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Bruni 8mm M1911 Blank gun (First Pattern).]]
[[Image:C72_Kimar911_0.png|350px|thumb|right|Bruni 8mm M1911 Blank gun second pattern (The image is a Kimar 911 to represent the near identical firer).]]
===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Transporter, The|The Transporter]] ||[[Jason Statham]] || Frank Martin || Nickel Variant ||2002
|-
| [[Transporter, The|The Transporter]] ||[[Matt Schulze]] || Wall Street || Nickel Variant ||2002
|-
| [[Transporter, The|The Transporter]] ||[[Qi Shu]] || Lai || Nickel Variant ||2002
|-
| [[Beau Travail]] ||[[Denis Lavant]] || Galoup || Standard Variant ||1999
|-
| [[Razor Blade Smile]] ||[[Eileen Daly]] || Lilith Silver || Standard Variant ||1998
|-
| [[Razor Blade Smile]] ||[[Kevin Howarth]] || Platinum || Standard Variant ||1998
|-
| [[Razor Blade Smile]] || || Illuminati thug || Standard Variant ||1998
|-
| [[Man Bites Dog]] ||[[Benoît Poelvoorde]] || Ben || Nickel Variant ||1992
|-
| [[Man Bites Dog]] ||[[Rémy Belvaux]] || Rémy || Nickel Variant ||1992
|-
| [[Blues Brothers 2000]] || || Indiana State Trooper || ||1998
|-
| [[Brazil]] || || Guard || || 1985
|-
|}

=== Television ===

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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| ||Leader of the Zimbabwean "Fire Brigade"|| [[Ultimate Force]] / S3:E2 || || 2004
|-
|}
 
[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

==M-45 MEUSOC==
[[Image:MEU(SOC) pistol.jpg|thumb|right|400px|M-45 MEUSOC pistol - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:M-45 MEU(SOC).jpg|thumb|right|400px|M-45 MEU(SOC) - .45 ACP]]
The M-45 MEUSOC (commonly referred to simply as the MEU(SOC) or just the MEU) pistol is based on the original M1911 and has been the standard-issue side arm for the Force Recon Element of the United States Marine Corps' Marine Expeditionary Units since 1985. However, it has recently begun to be supplemented by the Kimber ICQB.

===Video Games===
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising]] || || || 2009
|-
| [[Combat Arms]] || || || 2008
|}

 
==Springfield Armory Omega==
The Springfield Armory Omega is a multi-caliber gun and a derivative of 1911 Government model. It comes with multiple barrels and the following calibres can be used: 10mm, .45ACP, 9x19mm, .38 Super and .38 Special.

More detailed information about this unique weapon can be found at http://www.bren-ten.com/website/id56.html.
[[Image:Springfield_Armory_Omega.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Springfield Armory Omega - multi-caliber]]
===Film===
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Heaven's Burning]] ||[[Patrick Dugin]] || Tony || ||1997
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| [[Heaven's Burning]] ||[[Kenji Isomura]] || Yukio Takada || ||1997
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| [[Heaven's Burning]] || || security guard || ||1997
|-
|}
[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Pistol]]

Talk:M1911 pistol series

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USGIMar29: /* Happy 100th Anniversary to the Colt M1911! */

==Additional Variants==
===Screen Used===
[[Image:EnemyofState1911.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Screen-used original Colt M1911 pistol wielded by [[Gene Hackman]]'s character Brill in ''[[Enemy of the State]]'', serial #357414 (photo from Long Mountain Outfitters).]]
[[Image:M1911WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Screen used M1911 pistol (Hero Gun) carried and used by [[Sam Elliott]] as Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley in ''[[We Were Soldiers]]'' - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:M1911A1WeWereSoldiers.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Screen Used Hero Gun M1911A1, carried by [[Mel Gibson]] as Lt. Col. Hal Moore in the film ''[[We Were Soldiers]]'' - .45 ACP. Provided by Cinema Weaponry.]]
[[Image:ColtMkIVSilver DeNiro Machete.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Custom engraved nickel plated Colt MKIV Series 80 with pearl grips - .45 ACP. This is the screen used pistol for [[Robert De Niro]] playing Senator McLaughlin in the upcoming Robert Rodriguez film [[Machete]] (scheduled for release on April 16, 2010). ]]
[[Image:ColtCustomXXX.jpg‎|thumb|450px|none|This is the screen used Colt XSE M1911 Pistol, wielded, carried (and lost) by August Gibbons ([[Samuel L. Jackson]]) in the film ''[[XXX 2: State of the Union]]''. This pistol has a customized slide with the initials "A G" etched (for "Augustus Gibbons") and also has the logo for SEAL TEAM 4 in the center - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:T2M1911detonicsprop.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The Colt/Detonics M1911A1 Series 70 hybrid pistol used in the film ''[[Terminator 2: Judgment Day]]'' - 9x19mm.]]
[[File:Saradet.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Detonics 1911 used in the film ''[[Terminator 2: Judgment Day]]''. Image courtesy of ScreeUsed.com]]
[[Image:SCM1911A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The stainless Springfield Armory M1911A1 used by [[Benicio del Toro|Benico Del Toro]] as Detective Jack Rafferty in the film ''[[Sin City]]'' - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:TitanicM1911.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A Nickel-Plated ''[[Titanic]]'' M1911 from Stembridge Gun Rentals - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:P1010522ig5.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Actual D&L Sports Professional Model Longslides - .45 ACP movie props used by the Comedian [[Jeffrey Dean Morgan]] in ''[[Watchmen]]''.]]
[[Image:Wanted_21.JPG|thumb|none|450px|The Safari Arms Matchmaster used by [[Angelina Jolie]] in the film ''[[Wanted]]'' - .45 ACP. Note Safari Arms Lion logo.]]
[[Image:IMG 1666.JPG|thumb|none|450px|A Kimber Warrior - .45 ACP used on ''[[The Unit]]''. The weapon pictured here was the actual Warrior carried and fired by Dennis Haysbert in the last season.]]
[[Image:IMG 1534.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Another Kimber Warrior - .45 ACP was used in the most recent season of ''[[The Unit]]''. This was Dennis Haysbert's backup weapon in case the first failed (it is customary in Hollywood for each "hero" gun use to have at least one backup on set).]]
[[Image:BDSIIParas-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A pair of Para-Ordnance SSPs (.45 ACP) as used in ''[[The Boondock Saints II: All Saints Day]]''. The weapons pictured here were the actual screen-used guns handled and fired by Clifton Collins, Jr. in the film; note the custom grips, golden suppressors, and "El Jefe" engraved into the slides. ''(Big thanks to [[Al Vrkljan]] at Movie Armaments Group for this IMFDB Exclusive image!)'']]
[[Image:ShootEmUp-HammersonNiteTac-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A Para-Ordnance Nite-Tac (.45 ACP) used in ''[[Shoot 'Em Up]]''. The weapon pictured here is one of the actual screen-used guns from the film; note the engraved Hammerson logo. ''(Big thanks to [[Al Vrkljan]] at Movie Armaments Group for this IMFDB Exclusive image!)'']]
[[Image:1911-The Getaway.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Government Commercial M1911 - .45 ACP used by [[Steve McQueen]] in the film ''[[Getaway, The (1972)]]''.]]
[[Image:M&MSColtXSEusedinfilm.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The Colt M1911A1 XSE - .45 ACP used in the film ''[[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]]''.]]
[[Image:ColtM1911A1PunisherProps.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The two blank firing prop custom Colt M1911A1s used in the film ''[[Punisher, The (2004)]]'' - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:NashBridges1911.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Nash Bridges' Custom 1911 - .38 Super. This is the actual pistol that was used by [[Don Johnson]] in the show ''[[Nash Bridges]]''.]]
[[Image:Colt-M1911A1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The actual M1911A1 [[Pierce Brosnan]] used in ''[[The World Is Not Enough]]'' - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:SerenityM191A1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Jayne Cobb's Mocked-Up Custom M1911A1 - .45 ACP used in the film ''[[Serenity]]''.]]
[[Image:P00654 1911 Full Left.jpg|thumb|none|450px|'''World IMFDB Exclusive:''' Screen used Colt M1911 with Nickel-plated and pearl grips - .45 ACP pistol. This non-firing prop weapon is verified as screen used from the film '''[[The Other Guys]]'''. The gun is accompanied by the Galco shoulder holster and clip pouch also used in numerous scenes from the film. This item is currently being sold by [http://www.thegoldencloset.com/ The Golden Closet]; see [http://www.thegoldencloset.com/merchant/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=6ef04a13fbe759cbdcbdc6bc4c4b809f&Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TGC&Product_Code=P00654&Category_Code=OtherGuys here].]]
[[Image:IMG 1509.JPG|thumb|none|450px|A Strayer Voight Infinity - .45 ACP. This is one of the actual guns that has been used by The Company henchmen on ''[[Heroes]]''; this weapon was supplied to the show by Independent Studio Services and has been used on every season.]]
[[Image:Expendable-kimber-b.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Modified Kimber Gold Combat II used by [[Sylvester Stallone‎]] in ''[[Expendables, The|The Expendables]]'' - .45 ACP]]

[[Image:IMG 0444.JPG|thumb|none|450px|[[M1911|Colt MK IV Series 80]] - .45 ACP This was used in the film ''[[Street Kings]]'' and the series ''[[Chase]]'' and ''[[Dark Blue]]''.]]

===Airsoft Variants===
[[Image:GP WE M1911Peral lg.jpg|thumb|none|450px|An airsoft reproduction of the Springfield Armory M1911-A1 made by J-Armoury (Western Arms) used in the film ''[[Se7en]]''.]]
[[Image:CobrGold1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Perfect airsoft replica of [[Cobra]]'s Colt GC National Match - 9mm Pistol made by Western Arms.]]
[[Image:Htk1911.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Airsoft replica of Storm's M1911A1 from ''[[Hard to Kill]]'' - made by Western Arms.]]
[[Image:WA-WLUF_2_mark.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Airsoft Replica of Castor Troy's custom Springfield Armory M1911-A1 - .45 ACP from the film ''[[Face/Off]]''.]]
[[Image:WA490 4 mark.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Airsoft Long Slide Jim Hoag M1911A1 replica - .45 ACP, very similar to what Frank ([[James Caan]]) used in the film ''[[Thief]]''.]]
[[Image:Snake_.45-2.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Airsoft Sheriff Co. "Custom M1911" Airsoft Gun - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:SAProTac.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Airsoft replica of a Springfield Armory Loaded - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:Baby1.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Airsoft WE HiCapa 5.1 Full Metal Dragon Custom M1911 (Type B) Black Model with blue LED lights in the grip - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Detonics CombatMaster M1911 airsoft.jpg|450px|thumb|none|WE "Caspian Arms" M1911 replica of a Detonics CombatMaster M1911 or a Colt Officer's ACP - .45ACP]]
[[Image:Colt M1911.jpg|450px|thumb|none|Yu Teng 'YT385' replica of the original Colt M1911A1 model - .45ACP]]

===Other Replicas===
[[Image:Snake_.45.JPG|thumb|none|450px|CGI rendering of the Springfield Operator from the game [[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots]] - .45 ACP]]

===Other Variants===
[[File:M1911A1PreWar.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Detailed screenshot of prewar M1911A1]]
[[Image:Kimber_Ultra_Crimson_Carry_II.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Kimber Ultra Carry Crimson II - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Kongsberg M1914.JPG|thumb|450px|none|Kongsberg M1914 - .45 ACP. The Kongsberg M/1914 is a Colt M1911 pistol produced under license by the Norwegian factory Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk, with a minor modification to the slide stop and stock.]]
[[Image:.38Super1911MachinePistol.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The real-life Dillinger's .38 Super M1911A1 Machine Pistol, for comparison purposes.]]
[[Image:SPRINGFIELD ARMORY 1911 PISTOL.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Springfield Armory M1911A1 mil-spec stainless - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:SpringfieldArmoryM1911A1stainless.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Springfield Armory M1911A1 "Mil-Spec" - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:ED 45.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AMT Hardballer Longslide with laserlock sight as used in the film ''[[The Terminator]]'' - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:AMT_Hardballer_Hitman_Replica.jpg|390px|thumb|none|A near-perfect, firing, replica of the "Silverballers" from the Hitman series.]]

[[Image:MilSpec-1911.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Springfield Armory Mil-spec M1911A1 - .45 ACP. This was one of the most commonly seen .45s used by LAPD SWAT before the Kimber Custom TLE II.]]
[[Image:0862731R.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M1911A1 Commercial (Same marks of the movie's pistol) - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:PC9111.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Springfield Armory Professional 1911 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:M1911A1ithaca.jpg|thumb|none|450px|World War II Ithaca made M1911A1 with light grey finish - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:PublicEnemies1.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Pre-War Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP used on ''[[Public Enemies]]'' (2009)]]
[[Image:SW1911pd.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Smith & Wesson SW1911PD Tactical Rail - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:1911 Longslide.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Custom Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP. This model is very similar to the one in the episode on the ''[[Miami Vice (TV Series)]]''.]]
[[Image:Colt45.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M1911A1 .45 ACP with Pachymar grips]]
[[Image:Taurus PT1911.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Taurus PT1911 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Bruni8mm.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Bruni M1911A1-style blank firing stage prop - 8mm blank.]]
[[Image:Para1911G.I..jpg|thumb|none|450px|Para 1911 G.I. Expert - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:SA_loaded_m1911.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Springfield Armory Loaded M1911A1 - .45 ACP similar to the one used by Sydney Bristow from ''[[Alias]]''.]]
[[Image:Peter-1-5006-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Federal Ordnance PSP-07 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:TIKI.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Strayer Voight Infinity TIKI - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:CustomM1911A1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Custom Colt Series 80 M1911A1 pistol similair to one in the film ''[[Street Kings]]'' - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:LaserAimSeriesIIIPistol.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LaserAim Series III Pistol - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:KimberUltraRaptor.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Kimber Stainless Ultra Raptor - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Para645LDA.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Para-Ordnance 6.45 LDA with spare magazines - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:ColtDefenderRIGHT83.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Defender - .45 ACP was similar to the one used in the game ''[[Uncharted 2: Among Thieves]]''.]]
[[Image:GM45M1911A1-3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Hybrid 1911 "Gladys" fitted with a nickel plated three cut compensator - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Delta 001.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Delta Elite - 10mm Auto]]
[[Image:SM178017.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Smith & Wesson SW1911 Pro Series - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:SW108282.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Smith & Wesson SW1911 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:KimberWarrior.jpg|450px|thumb|none|Kimber Warrior - .45 ACP like the one in the show ''[[24 - Season 8|24]]''.]]
[[Image:FLX 2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Nighthawk FLX - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Triple_Tap_IMM_Open_pistol.jpg|thumb|none|450px|This SVI 1911 - .45 ACP is almost exactly like the one used in the film ''[[Triple Tap]]''. The description on the website reads, "IMM Open pistol made of carbon steel with Titanium compensator." (Picture supplied by sviguns.com)]]
[[Image:CaptainPriceSALoaded.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Captain Price SA Loaded - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:NiteTac.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Para-Ordnance Nite-Tac - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:1911WideSpur.png|thumb|none|450px|Springfield GI 1911 A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:ColtM1991A1L.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt M1991A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:The Veteran Colt 1991A1 Series 80.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt M1991A1 Series 80 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:M1911A1USAF.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Black Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Springfield_ultra_compact.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Springfield Armory Ultra Compact - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:PX9105MLP.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Springfield Armory Loaded MC Operator - .45ACP]]
[[Image:Springfield_Armory_Omega.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Springfield Armory Omega - .45 ACP]]

==Video game appearances of this pistol series==

Why is it that the "Video Game appearances" tables have a column named "Passwords"? I don't think it's for passwords to unlock them, because to my knowledge very few video games actually have a password system to unlock weapons. Wouldn't it make more sense to have a "Notes" after the "Mods" section where certain pertinent but miscellaneous information can be written, such as what copyright-infringement-avoiding name it goes under in the game, or whether it is chambered in a non-standard caliber?

I'd like this cleared up. Oh, and someone needs to include a note saying that "mods" is short for "modifications/customizations for the weapon," not "downloadable modifications to the game itself."--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 06:20, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

:I agree. Frankly I think both the "Mods" and "Passwords" sections can go, since the latter is pointless and the former's purpose can be adequately served by "Notes". --[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 15:17, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

==Colt Government Model Section==
With regard to the following sentence:

''"Aside from Colt selling the M1911A1 to the US military, the gun was also sold under the name "Colt Government Model" to the civilian market, and called the "Pre-Series 70" guns today."''

First, the Colt Government Model was introduced in 1912, and as such, it was originally in the M1911 configuration. When the U.S. Military switched to the M1911A1 configuration in the mid 1920s, Colt began manufacturing their Government Models in the M1911A1 configuration as well. So early Government Models parallel the military's M1911 configuration, while later Government Models (after the mid 1920s) parallel the military's M1911A1 configuration. Additionally, not only pre-Series 70 guns are Government Models. Series 70 and Series 80 guns are both Government Models. In fact, Colt still makes the Government Model to this day in various configurations.

With regard to the following sentence:

''"For IMFDB purposes, this can also be referred to as an M1911A1. In this manner, there is no need to list film, television, anime, video games in this section."''

It is sloppy to refer to a Colt Government Model as an M1911A1. "M1911A1" is the U.S. Military designation for a particular type of gun, and most of them were not even made by Colt (Remington Rand [the typewriter company] made most of them). I can see referring to a gun as an "M1911 type" or "M1911A1 type" if the manufacturer can't be determined, but when you simply type "M1911" or "M1911A1" you are referring to a U.S. Military contract pistol.

On top of that, the pictured gun in the Colt Government Model section is not even a "Pre-Series 70", it is a pre-enhanced Series 80 Government Model.

--[[User:MaximRecoil|MaximRecoil]] 21:44, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

:So it's like how we don't call it the Beretta M9, we call it the Beretta 92FS. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

::With the M9 vs. 92FS situation, it is next to impossible to tell the difference between the two onscreen, unless there is a closeup allowing one to read the markings. In such cases I would say, if a civilian character is using the gun, it is probably intended to be a 92F or 92FS. If a military character is using it, it is probably intended to be an M9, regardless of what the actual prop is. I would assume that most—if not all—movie and TV props are actually 92Fs or 92FSs, because I don't believe that actual M9s have ever been made available for civilian sale.

::With the M1911 or M1911A1 vs. the Colt Government Model (or other brands of 1911-type guns), it is usually possible to tell the difference onscreen without being able to read the markings. For example, the Colt Government Model does not have a lanyard loop. Most M1911A1s were parkerized, while no Government Models were parkerized. When dealing with more modern Government Models, there are even more differences. For example, starting in 1950, Government Models started coming with a full-shelf thumb safety; while all M1911[A1]s had partial-shelf thumb safeties. Also at this time, Government Models started being given a finish with polished flats and matte radiuses, while blued and Du-Lite (similar to bluing in appearance) M1911A1s had polished radiuses and brushed flats or entirely polished (depending on the manufacturer and/or time of manufacture); and of course the more common parkerized M1911A1s were simply all matte.

::Additionally, the newer Government Models as mentioned above have narrow hammers with polished sides left "in the white", and polished chamber hoods also left "in the white". Many M1911A1s had wide-spur hammers, and the ones that had narrow hammers were fully finished (no polished "in the white" sides) and they all had fully blued barrels, including the otherwise parkerized ones (no polished "in the white" chamber hoods).

::Most of the Government Models you see onscreen from the early 70s to the mid-to-late '80s were actually 9mm versions, though they were usually representing a "forty-five" onscreen. This had to do with reliable functioning with readily available 9mm blanks. Colt introduced the 9mm version of the Government Model when they introduced the Series 70 in the early 1970s, and the 9mm version of the CGM had a lowered ejection port (while the .45 ACP version still had the standard military style ejection port). With the introduction of the Series 80 Government Model in 1983, the .45 ACP version also got a lowered ejection port. No M1911[A1] had a lowered ejection port.

::I'll give an example. In the show Magnum, P.I., his gun is blued with polished flats and matte radiuses; polished "in the white" chamber hood and hammer sides, and a lowered ejection port. It is clear from looking that the gun is a Series 70 Colt Government Model chambered for 9mm (though it was always addressed as a "forty-five" in the show's dialogue); and is definitely not an M1911A1. Recently the gun came up for auction and is now in the NRA's National Firearms Museum, and it has been confirmed that that is exactly what the main prop gun was (serial # 70L33101 to be exact).

::--[[User:MaximRecoil|MaximRecoil]] 21:58, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

==Primary M1911 description==
Who wrote this? The historical paragraph (on the background of the M1911) implies that the M1911 was replaced by the U.S. Military AFTER Operation Desert Storm (1991) which is not true. The Beretta M92 (M9) was already approved and adopted by 1985.

Well for a period of time both the 1911 and M9 were in use by the U.S. military,therefore just because the M9 was in service does'nt mean it replaced the 1911 by that time, and for awhile soldiers actualy got to choose which weapon they prefered :o [[User:Leadback|Leadback]]
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The Beretta M9 officially replaced the M1911 in 1985. They still used the M1911, but they weren't buying anymore. They simply phased them out over the years. Now there are some units in the US military that still use the M1911. The M9 is really only used by conventional military nowadays. For example, the Navy SEALs don't even use the M9 or M1911 anymore. They have the H&K MK23 Mod 0. Which is a purpose-built USP .45. I've even heard of some SEALs using the Ruger Mk. II. It's a .22 target pistol with an integrated silencer on it.

Soldiers were never given the choice to choose. They were given the M9, but many didn't like it. It was big, many could not shoot it accurately, and lots contested the effectiveness of the 9x19 round. Lots of people I work with were in the military around the time of the switch, were given the M9, hated it, and decided just to keep carrying the M1911. It wasn't until they were given an official order that they were forced to carry the M9. And even there, there were times when they went back to the M1911s the military had stored up. For example, out in the deserts. The magazines the military bought were junk, got sand in them, and jammed. The M1911 functioned perfectly. Same thing is happening over there now.

wrong. Special Operations soldiers are given their choice of a sidearm( and assault rifle). 1stSFOD-D has been using 1911s since foundation. infact Larry Vickers (Nighthawk Customs) has worked very closely with Delta Force. Nighthawk 1911s are being used by Delta. 2- the Seals in Vietnam started out with the Ruger Mk II Suppressed. and know one still used the HK MK23. it was fazed out years ago because of how bulky it is. SEALs use the Sig Sauer P226 or USPs. but that is still a generalization. because all SOF have a choice in sidearm [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

==Para-Ordance==
Shouldnt these guns get their own page? Sure they are a 1911 varients, but their made by a totally different company.[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]] 00:38, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, but they're 1911 variants. This is the M1911 pistol series page, and they are 1911s. That's why they are on here. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I would prefer the Para Ordnance series of pistols have their own page due PRIMARILY to the fact that the Paras have a whole slew of different calibers that other M1911 makes and models don't have [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

What calibers does para have that other 1911 manufactures do not have?--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 01:22, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== The M in the page title ==

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the M in the page title incorrect? These are Colt 1911s (or 1911a1s, etc.), not Colt M1911s, unless referred to by US military nomenclature, just the same way that a Beretta 92f is an M9 only to the US Army and a SIG Sauer P228 is an M11 only in USAF terms. Just because it's the model of 1911 doesn't make it an M1911, any more than a '67 Shelby GT500 is an M67 Shelby GT500.[[User:YourMessageHere|YourMessageHere]] 08:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
::No. The Colt pistol was formally adopted by the Army on March 29, 1911, thus gaining its designation, M1911 (Model of 1911). Only examples or prototypes prior to the year 1911 would NOT have the M designation (which is extremely rare). Between the years of 1907 and 1910 the Colt pistol was constantly being modified and re-designed to win the Army's trials for adoption of a new handgun. The gun was only mass produced AFTER winning the Army's pistol trials. The Beretta 92FS was already famous world wide and was commercially available as the 92F/FS for YEARS before the Army adopted it. Every 1911 design came AFTER the M1911 (aka Model of 1911) so it is the correct nomenclature. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Using "1911" to refer to any and all pistols based on the M1911 design has only been popular for about fifteen years. Prior to that, the vast majority of such pistols were Colts, and were usually called "Colt .45s", even if they were pistols made by wartime contractors like Remington Rand. Those commercial guns that weren't made by Colt, as made by Vega, Randall, Federal Ordnance, Essex, etc., were called "clones", as they were generally close copies of the Colt. When makers started adding previously "custom" features to production-line guns, and branching into areas that Colt hadn't, a new name was needed, and "1911" became popular. The problem that I have with the various names on the site is the mixing of military and commercial designations; a gun cannot be a "M1911A1 Government Model", as M1911A1 is a military designation, and Government Model is what Colt has always called the civilian version of the "M" military pistols. Colt has made M1911s (1912-circa 1924), M1911A1s (circa 1926-1945), and Government Models (1912-date), but you can't mix or combine those names without confusing the issue.

==Caliber question==
I thought I would ask permission before making this change considering how important this article is: in the specifications category the caliber is listed solely as .45 ACP. I was wondering whether or not that should be changed to include .380 ACP, .38 Super, 9mm, and .40 S&W?
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

No, since the ORIGINAL Colt M1911 is .45 ACP Caliber, it should stay like that, since copies of the M1911 maybe have different calibers those should be put on the "copy" section

Agreed --[[PunisherDave]]

==M1991 Series==
I was wondering: what exactly is the difference between the 1911 series and the 1991 series? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 17:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Colt introduced (announced) the M1991A1 in 1991 as a sort of economy version of the Government Model, resembling the military M1911A1, and with the serial numbers picking up where the military gun left off after WWII. The gun was made in that form until about 2003, at which time the finish was changed to polished blue rather than matte blue, and the black rubber grips replaced with checkered wood.
:I heard a guy explain on youtube that 1991 got "extra safety feature" which blocked firing pin movement entirely when trigger was not pressed; allegedly this modification appeared after a incident involving police officer accidentally killing suspect while snapping him with the gun. However, this modification somehow managed to eject firing pin from the slide during decocking so only few people liked it --[[User:Cover72|Cover72]] 21:59, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

==Terminator 2==
It was my understanding that the 1911 used in the film was a custom Colt frame with a fitted Detonic slide. Was it a combatmaster slide? [[Special:Contributions/65.29.239.251|65.29.239.251]] 09:33, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== blank firers / K911 ==

I've added/moved blank firing Kimar 911 to the bottom of page as told by MoviePropMaster2008 ''("Non-firing replicas of the M1911 belong on the bottom of the M1911 page. Thanks.")'' 
But I wonder, shouldn't there be an entire sub-category of blank firers (with K911 being sub-section of this) in order to distinguish blanks from the real ones? It ''might'' look confusing this way. And also, I made multiple photos of K911 for what I thought would be it's page here including disassembled weapon photo, so perhaps these unused ones might be deleted? --[[User:Cover72|Cover72]] 21:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

==Strayer Voigt Infinity ==
This gun is using a frame from STI, they call that frame the 2011, it's double stacked. And is made from steel and polymer.

:are Strayer Voigt Infinity custom built guns? or just have alot of models? Rex095

The modular frames look exactly like those used by STI. http://www.sviguns.com
Don't know if they collaborate or something. They (SVI) have more optional grips than STI.

Both companies reside in Texas.
::Read up: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strayer_Voigt_Inc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strayer_Voigt_Inc]

Does anyone know the mag cap for a Strayer Voigt Infinity in 45acp? - captain snikt

==Police service pistols==

Before the 90s were American Police ever issued the M1911, or were they're only given to the FBI and SWAT team?

- Some regular state/county/municipal departments might have used a 1911 as a standard duty-weapon before semiautos came into heavy use following the eighties, but I imagine that's a very low number. I certainly don't know of any specific departments myself offhand. Not that many departments use 'em much today. As a 1911 generally was considered a large pistol with a fairly powerful round it wasn't considered easy to use and handle by regular officers. Same general reason why departments in older times stuck with .38s over .357s - The .357 was generally considered too powerful for standard-duty officers. As such, most police departments used 9mms when they first went to automatics in the eighties as there were few semiauto calibers with lower recoil impulse and power at the time than .45ACP.

Some other police units might have used 1911s when it suited them - Homicide detectives in our county's police dept. carried 1911 type pistols, though I don't think that was the county's standard sidearm for uniformed officers. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:04, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

:There's another reason, besides caliber, that the 1911 wouldn't have been too popular in the old days - it's a single-action. Before DA-only became more acceptable (i.e. Glocks), most LE departments preferred handguns that were SA/DA. Almost all police revolvers used prior to the 1980s, like the S&W Model 15 and 19, or the Colt Python, were single- or double-action. This bias continued into the 1980s when a lot of departments started adopting the Beretta 92F and the 3rd Generation Smith & Wesson autos. Now that Glocks have been around long enough, DA-only is finally becoming the standard. But SA-only is pretty much a no-go to any LE agency, and that's the way it was even before the 1980s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:30, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Isn't Glocks SA-only? The firing pin is cocked by cambering a round?

Would a Smith and Wesson Model 39 or 639 or Colt Commander be more acceptable for police use back then?

- To MT, that's a good point as well. SA weapons do require a lot of training and familiarity to operate effectively and safely, and as such, again, weren't considered practical for regular police officers either. Very good to point out. If I'm not mistaken, that's one of the main reasons why the 1911 fell out of favor in the Armed Forces as well - the fact they required extensive training and familiarity to use and carry safely. DA weapons are easier to train and operate with. Very true.

As for the Glock question, no, Glocks are actually DA only.

As for actions - In a Single-Action (SA) firearm, the hammer must be manually cocked to a firing position prior to pulling the trigger. Just like revolvers of the old west. Double action firearms will both cock and release the hammer when the trigger is pulled. SA/DA firearms use double-action by default, but feature an externally accessible hammer to allow single-action style firing (by cocking the hammer back and then pulling the trigger). Modern revolvers are perhaps the simplest examples of this.

DAO (Double-Action-Only) firearms only fire by double-action as they don't have an accessible hammer for single-action cocking. Such as Glock and various other semiauto pistols.

So if you have empty casing in the chamber, an pull the trigger several times, you would hear a loud click every time because the firing pin would be cocked every time? That's what happens in a DAO gun. If not, it's a SAO.

And on the last question, yes the Smith 39/59 pistols were used by police departments back then. Illinois State Police used the 59 back in the 60s/70s if I remember my Jane's Gun Recognition book correctly. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:07, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Correction, Glocks are not DAO. They fire from a half-cocked position. When you dry fire the gun, the hammer falls and must be recocked by racking the slide, it does not cock by double action springs. That's why the have a slightly heavy trigger pull, they are half cocked, and are brought to full cock and dropped by pulling the trigger. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::::: Bah, how did I miss that.. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 20:05, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

i thought glocks were striker-fired?

I think I read that Tacoma, WA police carry 1911s as standard issue service weapons.

I read on another forum that the LAPD authorises 1911 varients to officers, however they have to go through an intense training program to be authorised for it and they have to re-qualify ever few months too. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 16:30, 28 March 2011 (CDT)

==Versus modern pistols==

One thing I've noticed about this pistol is that almost everyone loves it, as though it were the best, most versatile handgun ever made. But really, what makes this thing, almost 100 years old now, any better than any modern pistols? Really, modern pistols can fire the same rounds, bigger clips, better design, picatinny rails, etc.--[[User:Zblayde|Zblayde]] 21:54, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Familiarity, accuracy, ease of getting parts, feel, simplicity (yes I know there are designs that are simpler, but for what this pistol is, it is simple), many different makes and models of the 1911, modularity, traditionalism. There are many makes and models of the 1911 style that have the same features as many modern "wonder guns". Want more ammo? Get a Para Ord P14, ditto for DA, and DA/SA. Want a 9mm/ 10mm/ etc? there are many types of 1911 platform pistols ranging from .22lr to .44 Magnum. A quote I heard about the 1911 a few years ago is "It's like a '32 Ford Hotrod, its cheap, reliable, powerful, fun, and is easy to make it your own. Just don't think you'll get much mileage out of a tank of gas." Now tell me can you put custom grips, barrels, sights, slides, frames, triggers, hammers, finishes, safeties, slide releases magazines, etc etc etc on a Glock, XD, SIG, Beretta, etc? Maby a few of those, but at what price, and can you do it all? -[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 08:51, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

: ''Really, modern pistols can fire the same rounds, bigger clips, better design, picatinny rails, etc.''

- Funny, several pistols I can think of that fit that criteria are little more than updated 1911 pistols. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 20:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

"bigger clips"
: Fail. I believe you meant Magazines. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:28, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
ya Unless your talkin about a Mauser broomhandle (which you're not) I would prefer if you said magazine instead of clip

::Actually, that's another thing I'm questioning. Really, what is the difference between the detaachable box magazines and clips? I mean, clips hold bullets for easy loading, right? SO wouldn't modern detachable magazines be classified as clips too?--[[User:Zblayde|Zblayde]] 20:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Simplest way I can put this - a clip loads a magazine. The magazine is what the gun feeds from - NOT THE CLIP. It just so happens that on some guns, the magazine is affixed to the weapon (the M1 Garand and the Mauser, for example). Thus, users have to use clips to reload them. On, say, a M1911 or an M16, the magazine falls out, thus allowing the user to swap in a new one when needed. A magazine could hold a clip, if so designed...but that particular road is one-way only. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 20:47, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

::The "clip vs. magazine" distinction is something that really needs to be clarified, and one of the reasons why I asked for the "general information" section in the first place. Hopefully someone can make a good article there showing the various type of bullet clips and why they should not be confused with magazines. By the way, revolvers when not loaded manually use bullet clips. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 05:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

considering that this page is dedicated to the 1911 which is generally made in .45 does anyone else find it somewhat stupid that our military and most police departments are using handguns that have been known for their lack of stopping power. there are better handguns out there that hold a generous amount of .45 ammunition anyway. for example the Nighthawk FLX holds 12-14. the HK USP/HK45, and the Infinity handgun line are double stacked. and even if most .45s hold 7-10 isnt that enough in most scenarios. 7 .45 slugs does the work of at least 20. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:26, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Its the same reason that police used the .38 Special for so many years even after the .357 came out. Politics, logistics, ability to handle the round, etc etc... -[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 20:30, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

:With regard to caliber, police need rounds that can penetrate car bodies, doors, walls, etc. .45 rounds are not known for penetration. Also, while the .45 round is more effective against soft tissue than 9mm and .40 S&W rounds, anyone who tries to claim that 7 .45 rounds can do the work of 20 9mm or .40 rounds is completely dillusional. Watch ballistic test videos. A .45 slug entering the body does more damage than a 9mm round entering the body. If you try to claim that one .45 wound is more damaging than 2 9mm wounds with any decent grouping than you clearly have no understanding of physics or human anatomy.

But the fact remains with a 9mm you dont want him dead in the half hour it will take for him to bleed out. you want him dead NOW. with the .45 hes going to feel it. he aint gunna get back up. with the 9mm he might just keep firing.
:Depending on shot placement. A 9mm slug to the heart or any of the major arteries surrounding it will cause death within several seconds. The same is true of a shot to most areas of the skull. .45 does have increased lethality over 9mm, but that degree of superiority has been greatly exaggerated.

Yeah but a 9mm can pass through a person and keep going, a .45 doesn't. I would imagine you wouldn't want those two 9mm rounds going through a person and hitting an innocent bystander. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 16:28, 28 March 2011 (CDT)

==Variants NOT listed with any film/TV/game appearances==

- I've taken it upon myself to remove several listed variants that had no list of anything that they've appeared in. Guns posted that didn't say they were in anything - Not one movie, TV show episode, video game, nothing. A couple of which I don't think have appeared on anything and seem to have been put up just for the hell of it.

Now I know we have a lot of 1911 variants on the page, but the page is not intended to show/describe ''every'' variant of 1911 ever made, but only those ''that have actually appeared in something'', as quoted by some of the admins. I just find it a bit annoying to have to scroll down the page and see numerous 1911 pistols that have nothing listed under them (Again, with some looking like they were just added for the sake of being there), and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Anyway, clearing said sections out now. If it seems like an unusual or otherwise noteworthy variant, I'll add it to the 'additional variants' section below. Bottom-line, if it ain't actually been in anything, ''don't add it'', no matter how cool it is or whatever. If it has been in something, then next time, don't half-ass - If you're going to bother with the effort of putting it up in the first place, do it 100% and say what it's appeared in. Thanks. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 03:18, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

==Kimber==
in the Kimber Warrior section it is listed as "Warrior II", which is wrong, the Warrior is built to full military specs and never got the "II" desinated saftey system...so it is just a Warrior because kimber only puts the II on the models they put their special saftey on.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 19:39, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

==Controversy igniter==
I am fully aware that what I am about to say will probably ignite the greatest firestorm of controversy this site has seen in a while. I have fired several 1911 pistols and found them to be a good, solid design. That said, it doesn’t change the fact that I think this is undoubtedly the most overrated firearm in history. Throughout the entire gun community there is the consensus that this is the absolute greatest thing ever conceived by the mind of man and anyone who says anything different is a blasphemer. Again, I am not saying it is a bad pistol, I just don’t think it is best (I won’t say what my top choice is for fear of causing even more indignation to come my way). Though even if it were the undisputed best pistol design around, I still don’t think it would be so significantly greater than other designs as to warrant being the object of the worship and masturbatory fantasies of every gun enthusiast in the world as it currently is. That’s my two cents, I await the fallout.

:I smell a troll.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 17:18, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

I'd say he's not because he seems to explain his point. At least his reasoning isn't 'this gun sukzz' [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 17:42, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

:My main reasoning is that the weapons are predominately single action only, which necessitates that they either be carried condition three (which makes the pistol slow to bring into action), or condition one (which many consider unsafe). The double/single action and double action only systems have become omnipresent in most modern combat pistols for good reason. Additionally, while a generally reliable design, many other pistols have surpassed 1911 models in ruggedness and reliability. Another thing that I find odd is the vast variety of weapons that are claimed to be “1911s.” For instance, I have seen subcompact, double action only, double-column “1911s” in many calibers other than .45acp. At this point the only common feature between these weapons and the original Colt 1911 design are a loose aesthetic resemblance. The internal mechanisms maybe similar as well, but many other pistols share a far greater functional similarity to 1911s yet do not bear the moniker. At what point does a gun cease being a “1911” and become something simply trying to cash in on a famous name sake?

It is human nature to emulate successful designs in the hopes of getting a piece of that pie, especially in the modern business world. Less-refined terms for this behaviour include "jumping on the bandwagon" or "riding a gravy train." It's nothing new now in the firearms industry, what with all the AR-15 variants, Glock knock-offs, and (of course) countless "1911-type" pistols around. What defines a "1911-type" pistol is really matter of personal preference.

I would, however, agree that it's foolish to fetishize a type of firearm or a firearms manufacturer just because of its track record or Public Relations budget. There is no such thing as the "perfect" weapon in the real world--every design involves tradeoffs, and that's even before you include the "human factor." Designs can always be improved. What matters most is what you can use the most effectively in a consistent manner. And if you can't, then you ought to get yourself another weapon or train more.

Speaking of "best pistol ever," I remember how H&K tried to label their 4.6x30mm pistol as "the Ultimate Combat Pistol," but it got unceremoniously cancelled, because of "inadequate ballistics in a handgun format." So much for "Ultimate Combat Pistol"--now it joins the legions of "Useless Cancelled Pistols" that came before it. Perhaps it could have had a chance if it were a machine pistol instead, dubbed the "MP7 UltraComPact," in essence an MP7 PDW in handgun format. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 00:34, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

:What I would like to know is what is it about the 1911 that supposedly makes it the best. I've heard people say it is the greatest pistol ever for more than a decade yet never explain what ''specific'' features or advantages it has that make it so good.

You should head on over to the forum and ask that question: "What makes the M1911 pistol so great compared to everything else, and when does an M1911 stop being one and start being a pistol just pretending to be one?" I'm sure there are more people there who could answer your questions better than what you could get here. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 22:24, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

What makes the 1911 the "best"? There are many reasons for the following it has. I am of course referring to the original 1911A1 model, not the double stack nor double action variants. For one, the single action trigger is extremely easy to train with and use by a lot of people. Second, it has redundant safety systems in place. Even with the manual safety off, it will not fire unless the grip safety is fully pressed, though this safety system is seen by a few as a con of the design. Third, it utilized a single stack design. That coupled with the angle of the grip is a very comfortable for a majority of the people. The degree of the grip angle was chosen because, for a lot of people, it is a natural point meaning that one could close ones eyes and bring the pistol up and have it pointing directly at the target. Fourth, it fired the .45 ACP. The .45ACP is a proven manstopper especially when compared to the other rounds utilized at the time of its adoption and until the development of reliable hollow point designs. Lastly, I would argue that compared to many other designs, such as the Mauser C96, Luger,etc..., the 1911 was easily field strip as the pieces of the pistol were designed to aid in the stripping down of the firearm. Compared to todays plethora of firearms, the 1911 is no longer the only pistol to chamber effective rounds or reliability. Why is it still popular then? Because some people still favor the 1911 design. Overrated, I don't think so. There is a reason why it is still chosen over other designs. Is it the end-all-be-all of pistol design? No, I would say it isn't. Anyway, from everything I've read, personal experience, and research that is what I have come up with. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 21:15, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

:Everything you have described establishes that the gun is a good design, perhaps the best gun around when it first came out, but does not explain it's enduring following. The grip may be confortable for many people, but that is far too subjective to explain why so many people (with so many different hand sizes) still favor this gun. It's single stack magazine make it a confortable target and practical concealed carry weapon, but the limited capacity it offers can be a death trap in a combat weapon (which many still claim the 1911 is the quintessential example of). The .45 ACP is a great round against soft targets, but does not offer very good penetration or long distance acuracy. And with the isistance on reliable "Soldier Proof" weapons in most of today's militaries, many modern pistols are more reliable and easier to strip than the original 1911s. I don't deny that the 1911 was most likely the best pistol in the world when it came out and for a few decades after, but I don't think it still warrents that praise anymore, yet almost every gun Television show, magazine, website, etc. seems to constantly proclaim its supremacy.

To answer your first point. The single stack, thin handgrip is easily usable by people of differing handtypes. You say its subjective but isn't how something feels in someones hand subjective? For example, the M9/Beretta 92FS has a thick grip. Bigger hands have no problem with the grip but smaller hands do. The slim 1911 grip can be used by big hands or little hands. The grip angle is something else that many people find comfortable. You second point that you made was the single stack "death trap". You say that the single stack is a liability. But capacity isn't everything. 7+ rounds of .45 ACP is good. The .45ACP has a well known reputation for one shot stops. The 9mm of the Beretta 92 or Glock 17 does not have that reputation. As for the .45ACP, it is not meant to penetrate body armor, neither is the standard 9mm, but it is accurate over long distances. There are very few pistol rounds that are meant to penetrate body armor of vehicle armor, which is what I think that you are getting at. If you draw a pistol in a combat zone, you are already in deep trouble or in a position where a high capacity is not needed, i.e. MP's. Anyway, a pistol is not meant to be accurate at long distances so the point is moot. As for the "Soldier Proof" weapons, that is just a cheap way out of training soldiers correctly, as they did with the A2 model of the M16. A milspec 1911 is just as reliable as newer designs. One such argument is that the 1911 was only tested for 6000 rounds with no failure before cleaning while Glock for example is tested at 30,000 rounds. What soldier won't clean his sidearm after 6000 rounds? What battle involves firing 6000 rounds out of a pistol? If you can't see why the 1911 design is praised and still being used then I can't help any further. The 1911 design has many good points that apparently many people still find better than other designs, and many still find the 1911 a proven and effective design.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 22:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

:Apparently I wasn't clear when I rebutted you last time. The single stack is confortable for people with small hands yes. However, people with larger hands, and even some small handed people, have no problem with thicker grips and so the capacity limiting single stack serves no purpose. The grip angle is a completely subjective feature and so it is imposible to argue that one style is better than another. What matters more is simply what one is used to. You are right that 7-9 rounds of ammunition and 6000 rounds before cleaning is more than adequate for most applications, however my point wasn't that the 1911 is bad (it is a good weapon) but simply that there are better guns out their. 7 or 8 rounds may be enough for most encounters, but having 12-17 rounds and being able to fire 30,000+ rounds before cleaning is an advantage, whether or not one will utalize those features often. Also, when I referenced penetration I had things like doors, walls, and car bodies in mind, not armor. The .38 Super cartridge was specifically developed because the .45 could not penetrate car bodies effectively. Your previous post all focuses on arguing that the 1911 is an ''adequate'' combat pistol which I completely agree with. My whole point is that the features you mentioned ''do not make it the best pistol around.'' When I first began this conversation I stated that the 1911 is not a bad gun, simply that with all the pistol designs that have emerged in the past century it is no longer the greatest pistol in the world, yet nearly everyone in the gun community (yourself clearly included) still claim it is for no other reason than people like its grip (which is subjective), its caliber (which is used in many much modern modern firearms), and its history (which can easily make it a favorite gun but can not be used as justification for it being the best).

You were arguing the design flaws but it is the design that is one of the big reasons it has such a following. Since you are arguing one view against the other. Why a lot of people think that it is the best. The design is one reason, history is another, the round it fires is yet another reason. I actually don't think it is the best I was merely stating the reasons that it is popular and why people say it is the best. I like the Beretta 92fs for its grip and certain design attributes and the Glock 21sf for different reasons. Would I object to using the 1911 in combat. No. Would I use the Beretta 92fs in combat with FMJ ammo? Not if I didn't have to. With HP ammo, I wouldn't hesitate to use the Beretta. But even your view of other designs being better is subjective. If a pistol, rifle, shotgun, etc...is reliable and fires a moderately effective round then it is a good design. What makes it the best is subjective as far as it goes. What one pistol may be best at is what makes it worst at something else. There is no way to objectively define the "best" just what is better than something else.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 00:17, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

:I agree. I don't have any gun in mind that I think is indisputably better than all others. The features I pointed out I did so to demonstrate that in certain aspects the 1911 is inferior to other disigns, not that said other designs are the perfect weapon. Every design is a give and take of different features. Because of this, my main complaint was a pervaisive belief that the 1911 is unquestioningly the greatest gun ever (I have heard that phrase Verbatim in many issues of Guns & Ammo). Is it better in some aspects than double-collumn, double-action 9mm pistols? Yes. Is it better across the board? Absolutly not. I apologize if at any point I have come across as confrontational, it is just that I have heard so many people assert the 1911's complete supremacy so many times that it has really gotten on my nerves and I wanted to know what others thought.

Google "1911"...then google any other gun...now tell me which one has the most varieties...which one has the most after market parts and pieces for the specialist. Which one has the most surplus parts. Its so popular and so famous because if you wanted to you could make one look like no other one or you could make it look like that one in your favorite movie. Not only that but all the diffrent calibers from 45cal to the awesome and unbeatable 10mm. Plus they are sexy as hell. To sum up you can basically have a beautiful, functional, all steel combat pistol in your choice of caliber and its going to feel like a dream in your hands.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 00:48, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

:The madness of crowds surely knows few bounds--just look at how the various bottled water companies manage to make a killing selling what is essentially tap water, because people will do often do things just because enough other people tell them it's a good idea. Then again, I suppose the "cult following" that some pistol-types have over others is due in part to the following facts:

:*Pistols are rarely if ever primary combat weapons anymore, with the exception of law enforcement.
:*Few people who routinely carry pistols have to regularly use them in gun battles against opponents who are earnestly trying to kill them.

:Therefore there aren't many occasions for most pistol-carriers to test their assumptions in the most revealing field of all--life-or-death situations. So depending on your circumstances you can go a lifetime without ever putting the hype in the harsh light of real return-fire. I'd bet on the M1911-type (the "pure" single-stack .45 ACP M1911s) pistols selling so much mostly because of its hype and history, and that it is, at its heart, a serviceable (though hardly optimal) weapon. Given how many clones there are, however, I really must wonder what would have happened had Colt become the sole copyright holder for this pistol type--would we see more innovation that way, or just countless clones of some other pistol type? Perhaps a more revealing, specific question would be "How does the M1911 platform compare to the Glock platform or CZ-75 platform?" That could work because all three are successful pistol types offered in multiple calibers, including 9x19mm, .45 ACP, and 10mm Auto.

:Bottom line? The "pure" M1911 works, but we can certainly do better. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

::Exactly

Ok, well answer me this then. Why if the 1911 is all hype and legend does MEUSOC still issue 1911s? Why does Delta give out a stipend to have an operator buy his own custom 1911? Why does the FBI HRT use 1911s? and LAPD SWAT? and so many other groups that use pistols? The reasons the wonder 9s came into popularity are lower recoil (marginal), size (marginal) higher capacity (less training in marksmanship), weight (long since gone by the wayside), to match ammo with other NATO countries (Military), and hype/ cool factor (civilian). The 1911 has served admirably (in one capacity or another) with few major changes to the platform for almost 100 years. The Beretta, Glock, CZ-75, etc. have been redesigned and "improved" since they came out just to try and match the 1911s in popularity, reliability, etc.-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 17:30, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

:Sure thing. How many of these operators you mentioned fulfill the conditions I mentioned above, namely that they regularly use pistols as their primary combat weapons instead of SMGs/PDWs/Rifles and often engage in gunfights with earnest, aware opponents? And other combat platforms for the .45 ACP won out, such as the Mk. 23 SOCOM pistol which won out over Colt's version. The "improved" Beretta, Glock, CZ-75 you mentioned have done so to fit consumer demand and market competition, but national armed forces aren't that commercial and competitive most of the time because of how many contracts and vested interests are running the show. I simply said that the "Pure" M1911 platform works when used, but it can be improved, otherwise the Mk.23 SOCOM wouldn't have won the OHWS program. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 02:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

::A lot of Special Forces don't even use the Mk. 23 due to its bulky and awkward size. Many Navy SEALs opt to use 9mm SIG-Sauer Pistols

H&K won the competition because they strictly adhered to all of the requirements (some of which were asinine), and they put in the best bid. When USSOCOM received the Mk. 23 they got exactly what they asked for but not what they had actually wanted. The SEALS who used it complained about how it was too big, heavy, and its cons outweighed its pros. They tried to pawn them off on the ARMY but no one there would touch them, so most of them went back to H&K. As with all things military, big brass does not listen to the guys who actually have to use the equipment until its too late.-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 06:13, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

I would like to toss my thoughts into the mix. Being a Brit getting a hold of a real firearm is harder than getting away with stealing the Popes hat, but I am an avid airsofter and I have held and fired many different types of airsoft pistols ranging from HK USPs, to Glocks, to Berettas, to SIGs. But I still go back to my 1911s to which I have 2 (I'm awaiting delivery of a third). I don't have tiny hands but I don't have big bear hands and the 1911 design feels right in my hands. I use a weaver stance and the 1911 is the best pistol for hand placement in that stance, I had an issue with the Beretta that sometimes my thumb could slip onto the slide locking mechinism and prevent slide lock. With Glocks they felt too top heavy for me, maybe it's how the airsoft Glocks are designed and it's not like that on the Real steel. I used a SIG for quite a while as that felt pretty good, but as soon as I picked up a 1911 I needed one. After a little practice I can draw, remove the safety and bring the pistol up to the target in a little under 2 seconds. Why do I like the 1911 so much? It's all about the placement, the safety is right by your thumb so when you draw it you can use one motion to bring the pistol up and deactivate the safety. I found the Beretta to be a bit of a fumbling job deactivating the safety mid draw. Why the 1911 design is still praised isn't down to some cult following, it's down to simple ergonomics, it looks great, the functionality is great, the placement of everything on the pistol is perfect. I saw someone post that they would rather be able to fire 30,000 shots and not have to clean their pistol rather than 6000. I don't know about you but if I only fired off one shot from my pistol in a battle I would still clean it to make sure nothing is going to cause a problem next time. Better to be safe than sorry. --[[User:Cool-breeze|Cool-breeze]] 17:19, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

== Ballester-Molina ==

The Ballester-Molina should not be included in the 1911 page. It's not a 1911, only the mags and barrel interchange. Internally it's based on the Star Model A, which has significant differences from the 1911 in terms of lockwork. Unless anyone objects I'm going to create a separate page for it. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]

== Link share ==

Hello there,

This is a question for the webmaster/admin here at www.imfdb.org.

Can I use part of the information from this blog post right above if I give a link back to your site?

Thanks,
Daniel

== Dreamworks Animation ==

When are you guys going to add animated films from Dreamworks like Monsters vs. Aliens and Megamind, because they have guns used by police and the military.

Just because there are guns in it doesn't mean it gets a page here. Are they recognisable as real guns, or are they stylised ones? [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 09:58, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

They are real guns in the animated films, like in Monsters vs Aliens, the soldiers used some M16 rifles to shoot at the alien, and in Megamind, the police uses rifles and pistols on aiming the villain, who is walking.

OK, I'm going to assume that you haven't read the [[Rules, Standards and Principles]] page, most notably [[Rules, Standards and Principles#Anime: Rules & Restrictions|this section]]. Read that, then check back. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 19:36, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

But wait, why do we have video game pages then? Firearms in them barely resemble real ones --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 19:47, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok sorry, no big deal, lets not add cartoons yet, because they have to wait.

:@Jackbel. Because in video games you can clearly identify the guns, and no the good ones do not just 'barely resemble real ones.' As a video game person you should know this, unless Australia has weird rules about depicting guns in video games. The reason cartoons are generally not allowed is because unlike anime, most cartoons have a generic silouette of a 'gun' while most animes have enough detail to be able to determine what guns was used. Think [[Ghost in the Shell]] or [[Cowboy Bebop]].--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 13:52, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

==.45 Blanks==

I've read a lot here that .45 blanks used to be unreliable. I was wondering when they started to become a bit more reliable and why they were unreliable? I can't find that anywhere.

I thought it wasn't really the blanks being unreliable so much as it just being easier to blank-convert a 9mm than a .45. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 10:29, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

.45 pistols require more recoil force to cycle their actions than 9mms. Since blank rounds have virtually no recoil, .45s are much harder to convert to use blanks.

Ah right. Is there some new way of converting them now because I've started to notice that in recent years there have been a lot of films using .45 ACP versions of pistols that are also chambered in 9mm. Die Hard 4.0 for example, McClane as a P220 in .45 ACP. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 17:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Is it explicitly stated that the prop gun was chambered in .45? [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 21:16, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::''"Is it explicitly stated that the prop gun was chambered in .45"'' We have a pic of the actual screen used gun and is listed as .45 ACP. I think all newer P220s are chambered in .45, only some of the older ones were chambered in 9mm and .38 Super. Also the .45 being unreliable with blanks. I don't think it encompassed all .45 chambered pistols. I think it was only in the 1911 platform. With the 9mm being a much smaller blank and having the large ejection port made for the .45 it was easier to eject them.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:09, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:SIGP220R LiveFreeDieHard.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SIG-Sauer P220R - .45 ACP. This is the screen used gun in the film and was carried and fired by ''[[Bruce Willis]]''.]]
::: Just checking. Especially after the whole issue with the Glocks. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 23:54, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Long (and detailed!)story short. For a 1911 to fire blanks reliably you must first drill and tap the barrel for a blank adapter, then taper the barrel hood, then grind off the locking lugs, and remove the barrel linkage. Once that is done, the testing for a reliable adapter and blank combo ensues (you may or may not need to enlarge the ejection port too). I figure its pretty much the same with other pistols...-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 19:11, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

That sounds like a very complex process. I'm assuming if you do that well though the 1911 will cycle blanks as well as 9mm blanks. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 01:28, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

I read an article in a gun magazine a few years back about blanks and it said that it comes down to the casings used. According to the article, blanks are made from rifle brass because it has to be long enough to be crimped and still be long enough to be the length of a real cartridge. The problem with .45 acp ammo is that until recently there was no rifle brass in .45 diameter that could be used for blanks. I remember reading back when "Miami Vice" was on that Timothy La France had brass custom manufactured in .45 for blanks. -- David, 3 December 2010 (well, its the 3rd where I live)

==Laseraim Series III?==

So what is this thing?
[[Image:LaserAimSeriesIIIPistol.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LaserAim Series III Pistol - .45 ACP]]
It looks more like a CZ derivative than a 1911 derivative to me... Alot like a mashup of CZ, S&W, Sig, STI, etc..-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 06:51, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
:It draws a little from the S&W series (namely the safety) and CZ-75 (in terms of grip shape), but technically it is a M1911 derivative, they just didn't make many of them.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 07:15, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Used to see these in tv shows during the late 80s. the later model was the first pistol I ever saw with an integral accessory rail on the dust cover, although that was in a catalog. David. 11 December 2010
:::Dust cover? What are you talking about? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
I don't know what else to call it, it is the part of the frame extending in front of the trigger guard. I have seen it, in print referred to as a dust cover. David.

::THIS Laseraim was photographed for the [[Haunted (2002)]] page since it was used in an episode. If you guys read the Haunted (2002) page, for which this IMAGE was originally shot for, the description says: '''Laser Aim was yet another manufacturer who built ported .45 ACP pistol based on the original M1911 design, but incorporating elements of the BHP and the CZ-75 into a new design. The unique feature of the Laser Aim was a hole cut out of the trigger guard ahead of the trigger to mount a laser. Since the production ended for this pistol, smaller lasers with better battery life have been invented. By the late 1990s LaserAim had gone out of business and had sold their patents to AMT. ''' Hope this sheds some light on the piece. It is a new weapon influenced purportedly by M1911, BHP and CZ designs. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

Ah, that explains it. Could have saved myself about 2 hrs of google searching if I'd looked up the image uses hah.-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 23:13, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

== MEU(SOC) Pistol... ==
...has been given a new designation, ''M45''. [http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/24/m45-close-quarters-combat-pistol/] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 02:24, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

We also need a better image for it, but I can't find one I can't be sure isn't an Airsoft gun. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 19:04, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

The big problem is there is no single model that is the M45/ MEUSOC Pistol. The "M-45s" in service are a mix and match of Kimbers, Springfields, Colts, etc. The "M-45" is a set of specs that any pistols built for MEUSOC have to comply with. There are SOME retrofitted M1911A1 pistols that were done by USMC Armorers at Quantico, but they are going to be near impossible to differentiate from the M1911A1 they were built from.
Here's a good thread from AR15.com (dear lord its hard to say that haha) about the M-45 MEUSOC pistol variants.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=49&t=86667
-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 08:46, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

== More proof of the M1911's greatness ==

According to the news, the M1911 is now the official state gun of Utah! This is kind of cool, since John Browning lived in Utah, and it's just in time for the great .45's centennial anniversary. [[Special:Contributions/74.192.58.206|74.192.58.206]] 21:16, 19 March 2011 (CDT)

== Happy 100th Anniversary to the Colt M1911! ==

Happy 100 years of service M1911! Thank you for providing some of the most nastiest knockdown power available to the armed forces and for providing an eternal name of badassery in motion pictures!

Here's looking forward to 100 years more! --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 15:40, 29 March 2011 (CDT)

My favorite semi-auto is the 1911. I've had affairs with others but I always come back to a good ole Colt .45. I didn't understand why until I did some research and figured out we shared a birthday. Still saving for an anniversary model... [[User:USGIMar29|USGIMar29]] 19:40, 2 September 2011 (CDT)

==9mm 1911s==
I'm not sure if this is an appropriate question to ask but could anyone recommend some good 9mm 1911s? I live in Australia and the maximum calibre you can get without doing competition shooting is .38 or 9mm rounds. --[[User:GunEnthusiast|GunEnthusiast]] 07:07, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

Talk:Resident Evil 4

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USGIMar29: /* Broken Butterfly */

== Leon's Default Pistol ==
Man, I wish Capcom would name this thing. Always having to say "Leon's RE4 gun" gets annoying after so long...

Here I'll name it for you, "The gun that Capcom is to lazy to name"
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]

Well,maybe it should have a combination of any of the names of the real guns that it looks like.

I mean,it shouldn't be that hard to figure it out...[[User:Pump Shotty Justice|Pump Shotty Justice]]

The"USPTacticHAHFOOLEDYOU" ?--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 04:45, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

How about the "Hecklasmithakochasigmauspwesson 9mm"
:Tack "9mm" onto the end of that, and we have our winner.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 07:49, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay,so I didn't realise how many friggin' weapons it resembled. It was just an idea.

We have a name for it now. The [http://projectumbrella.net/articles/ARMS-Jan-06-Vol-211 Silver Ghost].--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 20:17, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Cool.

The official name for Leon's 9mm is Silver Ghost.
:Thank you, Mr. Anon, for telling us all something we already knew. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 03:10, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
::HA HA HA, OH WOW. --[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 07:01, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to put this in. From day one I always thought the pistol looks like a mix of a USP, Ruger P95 and M9. Like if you just mixed and matched parts from one gun to the other, this is what you'd get. Actually, if you'd take a look at this: http://www.the-horror.com/index.php?id=features&s=re4demos&p=3 you'll find that there's some credence to my Ruger idea.

Can anybody provide some info on how the 'Silver Ghost' operates? I mean, for controls all I see is a slide stop(/disassemply part a la 1911?) a trigger, a mag release, and a hammer. And that's all. No safety, as far as I can see, nor a decocker. So is this weapon DA/SA with a 1911-type decock (control hammer-down while pulling trigger), or is it just single-action (no safety, no decock)? Thoughts? LINK(s) to the specs as the designer intended? -- Orca*

:All we know is that it does fire in SA, but there is very little information on it besides that. Hell, the only reason we know its name is because I sent scans of a Japanese magazine to Project Umbrella and they translated it. Other than its name, there simply isn't anything else out there.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 19:01, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Shotgun Shells ==

Anyone else notice that the green boxes of "Heavyfield" ammunition for the shotgun are labeled as slugs?

Yeah I noticed it too

== Is the Black Tail really the Springfield XD? ==

I ask this question because the pistol grip in the black tail is identical to the FNP-9 DA/SA series. This will make a lot of sense in the point that the punisher is based on the Five-Seven which is also from FN.

:Sorry, but Resident Evil doesn't have a contract with FN, which should be obvious from the fact that they renamed the guns. But let's compare. Here's the FNP-9:
[[Image:FNP-Pistol.jpg|thumb|450px|none|]]
Here's the Springfield:
[[Image:Hs-xd-3.jpg|thumb|450px|none]]
Here's the gun in-game:
[[Image:RE4 Blacktail.jpg|thumb|450px|none|The fact that it's striker-fired as opposed to having an external hammer should be the first giveaway.]]
-protoAuthor 01:21, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I understand this but the picture of the FNP-9 that your presenting is from the left side but if if you look at it from the right side as the picture of the black tail they look a like. Even a simple detail as the 3 vertical lines in the rail when the XD has six in total.

Thar's right; ignore the fact that the Blacktail uses a striker instead of a hammer. That obviously doesn't matter. And what the heck do you mean by "Vertical lines in the rail"? You can't even see the rail on the Blacktail because of the laser mount. Do you mean the grooves in the front of the trigger guard?

PS: This isn't the only place he's pushing this. See here [http://residentevil.wikia.com/Category_talk:Weapons] --[[Special:Contributions/141.165.142.112|141.165.142.112]] 23:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

this is my leon´s gun try on paint. It was made from a s&w sigma, there is a part taken from an image from here[http://residentevil.wikia.com/Handgun_(RE4)]
[[Image:Leon_9mm.JPG]]

It looks OK, but Leon's handgun resembles a [[Heckler & Koch USP]] Expert more than a Sigma.

You forgot the wood grips.

Oh, and also, you can go here for images [http://residentevil.wikia.com/Category:Weapons]. I'm an admin there, and you have my permission to use information, images, blah blah blah. Same permissions go for all other RE articles on IMFDB. The scans that depict Leon's Handgun and the anatomical breakdown in the text were done by myself[http://residentevil.wikia.com/Handgun_%28RE4%29]. I appreciate having the RE Wiki cited, but I don't care enough to protest if it isn't cited.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 05:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

*I did not know how to put them or had them. Remember that i used paint.-thebarry1394

A usp looks far away from leon´s handgun. I mean, Leon´s is a fictional gun. And some of the details on the slide are too different from each other. And here´s the usp Leon´s try on paint (without the custom grip -I don´t have them, and don´t know how to make them in paint-)

[[Image:Leon-USP_9mm.JPG|thumb|450px|none|here you have your usp modeled handgun]]

==Handcannon==
I made another RE gun with paint, this time the handcannon:
[[Image:RE4_handcannon.JPG]]
The underbarrell thing is suposed to be a laser.-Thebarry1394

Any chance you could do the same thing for the Broken Butterfly?--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 00:42, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I´ll try..., but give me some time, the break open will be difficult- Thebarry1394

==Broken Butterfly==

[[Image:Broken_butterfly.JPG]]

If I missed anithing, tell me, because it was kinda slow the process..., not like anithing I had tried before!

or, a longerbarell version:
[[Image:Broken_butterfly-lb.JPG]]

not even close. Try Colt Navy grip, lower frame and recoil shield with a Schofield top-strap, hinge and barrel. That little flare on the back... not sure how to do that. I wanna say you'll use a Schofield cylinder, but I'm not 100%.

I made it with a saa pic i found here, nothing else. I looked at the broken butterfly pic in the main page, a schofield, and tried my best. I can´t mix pictures because in paint, i cant change lightning, and i dont have photoshop. But I`ll redo the main thing.
(I need a good pic of the in game one)

Nevermind what I said, it's an SAA/Schofield. I threw this together in about 10 minutes:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/residentevil/images/7/71/Broken_butterfly.jpg
I think the recoil shield may actually by a Schofield. So... it's still a work in progress.

cool, but i can see the saa reloading gate, can you fix that (I mean for helping you to make this beuty be even more perfect)

Yeah, I'm thinking maybe the recoil shield from the left side and then mirroring it. I can't recall whether or not the 1873 C&B Uberti produces has a recoil shield or loading gate.

Mirror the lefty. If not, you´ll get in serious trouble triying to fix it with another pic or photoshop. (I mean, if you have acces to the left side picture...)

Does anyone else think that the grip frame more resembles an 1877 colt lightning/thunderer with SAA grips from crimson trace? [[User:USGIMar29|USGIMar29]] 17:26, 1 September 2011 (CDT)

==HD Screenshots==
Yo, I have the PC version of the game, which looks infinitely better than this. Anybody mind if I take some new shots? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

Please do. Not only are PC games easier to take screenies from (console games either require illegal methods or specialized hardware to record their video output), they can also be much higher resolution if you have the hardware to support it. There's just a few small problems with the PC version of RE4 which made me pass it up though . . .

1) The graphics were based off the PS2 port. That means lower-poly models, lower resolution textures, no dynamic lighting like in the Gamecube version, and fewer Ganados, thus giving you a harder time stringing together kill combos when playing the Mercenaries mode. They could have combined the Gamecube version's graphics along with the PS2's features (or even put in higher-resolution textures in place of the low-resolution originals for the console versions, like the PC ports of Halo 2 and Silent Hill 3), but for some reason they didn't (even though most PC hardware now is perfectly capable of supporting a game like this, even with enhanced textures).

2) No aiming with the mouse (really something to make you mad).

If Capcom/Ubisoft put out a higher-resolution texture patch it might make the screenshots better, but even if there isn't such a patch (and I know the powers that be here look down on anything other than the most well-known mods, especially minor texture mods), then your work will still be appreciated. It'd be very nice to have high-resolution screenshots without all the chromatic abberation/compression artifacts that are in the current revision of this article. Remember to save them in JPEG format so that they don't break 300 kb in filesize--the mods don't like bloated files. [[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 05:28, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

:Rodger Dodger, I'll do what I can. The in game stuff really doesn't look great on the PC, I'll admit. The inventory images are probably the reason to try it out. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Alright, I have the shots. What I could get anyway. My usual screencapture stuff had it's first ever misfire, for some reason it was only capable of about 1 image per 5 seconds while playing RE4. I tried to get some reloading images for the more interesting weapons, and of course I have inventory left/right for everything. Will put up soon. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Go get 'em, tiger! I'm looking forward to the new high-res screenshots.--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:05, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay. Mostly done. Still need Ada's Shotgun, an image of the MP9, perhaps the silenced Ghost, and last a Gangster Outfit Chicago Typewriter. I have many save games with many pesetas, but never in quite the right places. Also: I'll make sure each weapon description has links. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]
::Mmm, these screenshots are looking very impressive. I still think it's a bit stupid that Capcom still hasn't learned the value of good English writing for its games, not to mention checking for errors in spelling or bad "ammuniton" logic (like how the shotgun shells are labelled slugs in the ammo box's textures). Heh, at least the "keep out of reach of children is still there," not that there ARE any children to be found in Resident Evil games. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:27, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

==Undo==
Reverting the Handcannon ammo caption, there ain't much reason to restate what is in the picture. Sorry M14Fanboy. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

:Meh, it's alright, Just though it was funny to point out. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]

==Handcannon Ammo==
Has anyone noticed that the box says '''5 caliber''' on it? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 19:31, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

It says ".5 Caliber", Most non gunnies dont know to put the 0 after the .5, and so it becomes ".5". Ive found this is common in places that are used to the metric system...[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 23:20, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Converting handgun calibers from inches to millimetres is easy when you remember this little fact--.40 caliber in a gun is equivalent to 10 mm in real life (this is why I've heard the 10x25mm round should have been called the ".400 Magnum"). If you want the size of .50 caliber in millimeters, then it's simple to realise that .50 caliber is 25% larger in diameter than the .40 caliber round, so likewise the size in millimetres is 25% bigger, giving you the approximate size of 12.5mm to finish.

In general, dividing a caliber in inches by 0.4 will give you the approximate size in centimetres, while multiplying a bullet diameter in centimetres by 0.4 will give you the approximate caliber in inches. I'm neither a math nor gun whiz, but a little simple algebra and gun knowledge helped me figure this out. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 01:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok.... I say that its common in countries with the metric system b/c I have a few gun books out of the UK and all of them refer to .50 cal as .5 cal. Im thinking its simply because they see no need for there to be a 0 in there.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 01:39, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

:The way I figured it out was by comparing some known quantities. I knew that 6mm BBs were .24 caliber, so I was able to extrapolate 9mm = .36 and some others. Same trick with .308 = 7.62 I think(did I get that right?). [[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

What does that have to do with what I'm saying? I'm saying that it is common in the UK/ Metric system countries to lose the 0 in .50, and you are talking about converting caliber to mm... I know what mm equals in caliber, and many others do too. Im just saying that people who dont deal with bullets in caliber tend to not know why there is a hundredth place in a caliber designation when if it was a normal number it would only have a tenth place. Also your calculations are technically off... .50 BMG isnt actually .50 inches, its .510 and therefore is not 12.5mm but 12.7mm (.50 AE and .500 S&W are both .50, but are still 12.7mm). Same as a .38spcl being .357" in diameter and a .45 ACP being .452". You ARE technically correct with .308 being the same cartridge as 7.62mm BUT .308 (and therefore "7.62"mm) is 7.82mm in diameter.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 09:14, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

==AMT Hardballer Longslide! Now without long slide!==
'Tis not a Longslide, just the standard Hardballer. Ok? You random unregistered user who plays too much Hitman? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

It doesn't look like an AMT Hardballer. It's grip safety, backstrap, and hammer are all that of an original M1911.

Goddammit, keep the discussion in the discussion page (Not to the guys above me): --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 19:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Also, it is nice to mention that there is a handgun with the frame like a Colt 1911, but chambered in .45 magnum. This handgun is the [[LAR Grizzly Pistol]]

Actually, its a standard Colt M1911 with the Hardballer's laser sight.

The "Dart Gun" actually looks more like a Mendoza RM-200 or equivalent air rifle than anything; the only other rifle that would look like that would be some kind of .22 semi-automatic, and that doesn't really make sense given the load (special darts that probably would require a bolt-action or other manual operation).

[[Special:Contributions/70.118.123.229|70.118.123.229]]Someone[[Special:Contributions/70.118.123.229|70.118.123.229]]

I agree with the [[LAR Grizzly Pistol]] Theory,only to say it would have to be the Mk. IV. Added on with the Hardballer sight. But,from how it looks,I'd have to agree with the M1911. I'd almost like to be an idiot and call it an [[AMT Automag Pistol Series]] IV. Just saying.---[[User:Pump Shotty Justice|Pump_Shotty_Justice]] 00:04, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

=Excised=
Why? They don't really add anything to the page (except length, and a minor blemish at the bottom). --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

=Other Weapons=

== Bow Gun ==
May be purchased from Merchant in Separate Ways, and is often seen in the hands of monks and militia. The enemy version is unusable by the player and fires burning bolts (the fire doesn't have any effect) while the usable version shoots exploding bolts.

==Minethrower==
May be purchased from Merchant. The weapon fires custom darts with explosive tips that embed themselves in an enemy and detonate after a period of time. When fully upgraded its mines will automatically home in on the nearest enemy.
[[Image:RE4 Minelauncher.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

== Krauser's Bow ==
Krauser uses this weapon in Mercenaries minigame. In the main boss battle it fires explosive arrows. Possibly a reference to Rambo.

==GE M134 Minigun==

This gun is used by J.J. (The minigun wielding Gannado) and cannot be used by the player.

==Dart Rifle==
A Villager uses a dart rifle to render Ada unconscious.

==Los Illuminados Gatling Gun==
Used by a senior monk of the Los Illuminados cult in the Castle section of the game and by the Militia in the Island section, it has alot of barrels but it has an average suppressive fire machine gun rate of fire, which makes all those barrels redundant, it caliber is probably between 5.56 NATO and 7.62 NATO, maybe even .50 BMG. Cannot be used by the player.

The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford

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The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford

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USGIMar29:

Talk:The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford

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USGIMar29:

The pistols Jesse gives to Bob are New Models, not Schofields, easily identified by the humped grip and original style cylinder catch. If there's no argument I'd like to change it. --USGIMar29
:I went ahead with the edit.

The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford

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The pistols Jesse gives to Bob are New Models, not Schofields, easily identified by the humped grip and original style cylinder catch. If there's no argument I'd like to change it. --USGIMar29

Call of Duty: World at War

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USGIMar29: /* Smith & Wesson Model 27 */

'''The following guns are used in the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and PC versions of the video game ''[[Call of Duty: World at War]]'' (Wii version should be the same)'''
[[Image:CallofDutyWorldatWarJacket.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''Call of Duty: World at War'' (2008)]]

__TOC__ 

=United States Marine Corps=

== M1 Garand ==

The [[M1 Garand]] is the standard rifle of the American forces, and is seen in nearly all of the hands of the American Soldiers. It's depicted as being able to reload partway through an en-block clip; while there is facility for unloading the gun without firing every shot, it was not considered practical to do so in combat [since real soldiers don't have a magic invisible ammo hopper to consolidate their ammo neatly into full clips] and American soldiers were generally advised to fire off remaining shots if reloading was necessary.

[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg‎ |thumb|none|550px|M1 Garand - .30-06]]
[[Image:Garand_5.png|thumb|none|400px|M1 Garand in-game]]
[[Image:CODWaWGarand1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A marine raider holding his M1 Garand rifle.]]

== M1 Carbine ==

The [[M1 Carbine]] is rarely seen earlier in the American campaign, it is not used up until the Castle level, where it can be picked up from most of the American corpses. Erroneously called an M1A1 Carbine in-game, despite not having a folding stock.

[[Image:M1-Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|WW2 era M1 Carbine with spare magazine pouch - .30 Carbine]]
[[Image:M1carbine_5.png|thumb|none|400px|M1 Carbine in-game]]
[[Image:CODWawM1Car.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A marine shooting with his M1 Carbine at a Japanese sniper tethered to tree.]]

== Thompson Submachine Gun ==

The [[Thompson Submachine Gun|M1A1 Thompson]] is Roebuck's Primary Weapon.
Note: The M1928A1 appears on the box art for the game, though is not seen in-game. However, the gun looks more like a mix of the M1A1 for the iron sight and bolt hand location, and the M1928A1 because of its compensator and drum magazines. Also it only holds 20 rounds while its in game renders clearly show the 30 round mag.

[[Image:M1sb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1A1 Thompson - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:soldierwolf,20070107412.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1A1 Thompson with 20-round magazine and Cutts compensator .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Tommy_5.png|thumb|none|400px|M1A1 Thompson in-game]]
[[Image:CODWawTommy.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A marine firing his Thompson.]]

== Browning Automatic Rifle ==

The [[Browning Automatic Rifle|M1918A2 Browning]] in single player is never seen without a bipod, but it must be unlocked in multiplayer. In single player, you start with it in the Level ''Relentless'', no you can find it in this level dropped by some marines, but you start with it in the level "Hard Landing".

[[Image:BAR.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06]]
[[Image:Bar_5.png|thumb|none|400px|BAR in-game]]
[[Image:Cod0x3020.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Sgt. Roebuck with a BAR.]]

== Winchester M1897 ==

The [[Winchester Model 1897]] is unlocked immediately in multiplayer, In single player it is Sullivan's primary weapon. For some particular reason, if you search through cleared out underground bunkers, they are just lying around.

Referred to in-game as the "M1897 Trench Shotgun" Also, the 1897 trench gun can "gib" enemies (blowing off body parts), which makes this gun a fatal nightmare. The 1897 can blow heads off, blast the soldier's arms and legs off, and even blow the soldier's body in half.

[[Image:1897.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:CODWaWWinchester.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Sergeant Sullivan holding a Winchester M1897.]]
[[Image:642.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Sullivan advancing with a Winchester M1897.]]

== M1903A1 Sniper Rifle ==

The [[M1903 Springfield|M1903A1 Sniper Rifle]] is never seen in single player without a scope, and comes with a scope unlocked in multiplayer. The rifle is not an M1903A4 as it is based off of an A1 and mounts a higher-powered scope than the M73 and M84 scopes commonly used on the A4 variant. The scope mounts are also moved forward to the barrel and forward receiver to accomodate for its length. The A1 sniper variant was more common in the Pacific, which is why it is also seen in other games set in that theatre rather than the A4.

[[Image:Springfieldm1903a1.jpg|thumb|none|550px|M1903A1 Springfield sniper variant of the M1903 Springfield with Unertl scope - .30-06]]
[[Image:Springfield_1903_CODWAW.jpg|thumb|none|550px|M1903A1 Sprngfield un-scoped in-game]]
[[Image:Springfield_1903_CODWAW_scoped.jpg|thumb|none|550px|M1903A1 Springfield scoped in-game]]
[[Image:CoDWaWSpringfield.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Marine Raider "Denny" holding a M1903A1 Springfield.]]

== M1911A1 pistol ==

The [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1 pistol]] is the sidearm of all the American soldiers. and your sidearm in all of the single player levels where you are not issued a flamethrower. It holds 8 rounds in game, when the real M1911A1 holds only 7 (+1 in the chamber). Standard-size 8-round magazines from Wilson Combat were not available until the 1980s.

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|400px|none|World War 2 issued Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:CODWAWM1911.png|thumb|none|400px|M1911A1 in-game]]
[[Image:CODWaWColt.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A marine aiming his M1911 pistol at a Japanese officer.]]
[[Image:CoDWaWcolt.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The player reloading a M1911 pistol at the E3 2008 game conference's co-op presentation.]]

== Smith & Wesson Model 27 ==

The most powerful handgun in the game, is the [[Smith & Wesson Model 27 / 28 | Smith & Wesson Model 27]], it was most likely only included as the 'Desert Eagle' of this game. It is never seen in single player.

[[Image:S&WModel27.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Smith & Wesson Model 27 - .357 Magnum.]]
[[Image:CoDWW357Mag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A .357 Magnum revolver unlockable at level 49, probably a Smith & Wesson Model 27]]
[[Image:357_5.png|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 27 in-game]]

== Mk 2 hand grenade ==

The [[Mk 2 hand grenade]] is the standard American grenade in single player. It is the only frag grenade in multiplayer.

[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|200px|none|Mk 2 hand grenade]]
[[Image:CODWaWMk2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Marine with some Mk 2 hand grenades on his gear.]]

== M2 Flamethrower ==

You first take the [[M2 Flamethrower]] from the hands of a Marine who was killed trying to clear a machine gun nest out. You start with it in the level 'Burn Em' Out'

[[Image:M2 Flamethrower.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M2 Flamethrower]]
[[Image:M2_Flamethrower.png|thumb|none|400px|M2 Flamethrower in-game]]
[[Image:M2 FlamethrowerWW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A M2 Flamethrower model of the game.]]
[[Image:CODWaWFlamethrower2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A Marine firing his M2 Flamethrower.This is Pvt. Glover NOT Miller. Pvt. Glover is the Marine in Little Resistance that burns out the MG Nest.]]

== M9A1 Bazooka ==

You pick up the [[M1 Bazooka#M9A1 Bazooka|M9A1 Bazooka]] to destroy the Japanese tanks when on the Airfield. It is also used by two Soviet Soldiers in the level Downfall. It is one of the immediately unlocked Perks when you unlock Create a Class

[[Image:M9bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|550px|M9A1 "Bazooka" - 2.36 inch]]
[[Image:CoDWaWbazooka.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A Marine taking cover behind a truck with his M9A1 Bazooka.]]

== Browning M1919 ==

A mobile machine gun, you first use the [[Browning M1919]] in 'Relentless' with a bipod. Later on in single-player it is seen without a bipod. It has a cloth wrapped around the barrel close to the frame, a makeshift handguard. In the level 'Black Cats' dual-mounted on the bow and single mounted on the stern. In multiplayer it is the last machine gun unlocked. It seems that the Browning machine gun for infantry use in the game is a M1919A4, but it can be fitted with a bipod which is a mistake (the bipod was only available for the M1919A6 version). It is also erroneously shown as the turret gun for the Soviet T-34 tank in both single player campaign and multiplayer.

[[Image:M1919A4Browning.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M1919 on M2 tripod - .30-06]]
[[Image:M1919_5.png|thumb|none|400px|Browning M1919 machine gun in-game]]
[[Image:CoDWaW30calCatalina.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A twin Browning M1919 machine gun with an anti-aircraft sight mounted on a PBY Catalina flying boat.]]
[[Image:CoDWaW30calTank.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A Browning M1919 machine gun in a ball mounting on the front hull of an M4 Sherman tank.]]
[[Image:CoDWaWM1919A4.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A Browning M1919 machine gun with a bipod used by a marine during the multiplayer mod.]]

== Browning M2 ==

The [[Browning M2]] is seen in the level 'Black Cats;' one is mounted in each of the Catalina's waist blisters.

[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2 - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:CoDWaW50calCatalina.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A Browning M2 machine gun mounted on a PBY Catalina flying boat]]

== M7 Grenade Launcher ==
The [[M7 rifle grenade]] is an muzzle device that attaches to the M1 Garand, and is used a few times in the Pacific campaign; the first time is when the American force is attacking Japanese Type 96 25mm triple installations at the airfield. There is a slight error in how they are presented; mounting one would normally require the rifle to first be emptied, then individual blank cartridges loaded for each shot fired; in game, they're just attached and fired. In addition, the rifle would have to be braced with the stock against the ground before firing; the player doesn't even have to crouch to use the weapon.

[[Image:M1 garand M7.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M7 grenade launcher]]
[[Image:CoDWaWM7grenadelauncher.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Two M1 Garand rifles with M7 Grenade Launchers mounted.]]

== Oerlikon 20mm Cannon ==

In "Black Cats," the player's Catalina is armed with twin [[Oerlikon 20mm Cannon]]s under the bow turret. This is not part of any standard Catalina fit, but ''was'' reported as a field modification to "Black Cat" Catalinas in the Pacific; however, it required the removal of the twin M1919s in the bow turret, which are still present on the game's Catalina.

[[Image:20mm Oerlikon Cannon.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Oerlikon cannon - 20mm]]

=Imperial Japanese Army=

== Type 99 rifle==
The [[Arisaka Rifle#Arisaka Type 99|Type 99 rifle]] is the main rifle for the Japanese. Also used by Banzai attackers with the Model 30 bayonet attached as the Arisaka Bayonet. A scoped version is featured in Semper Fi and Blowtorch and Corkscrew.
[[Image:Arisaka-Type-99.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Arisaka Type 99 Rifle - 7.7mm Arisaka]]
[[Image:Arisika.png|thumb|none|400px|Type 99 Rifle in-game]]
[[Image:CodWaWType99.png|thumb|none|550px|A Japanese soldier in a bunker, holding a Type 99 Arisaka rifle.]]
[[Image:A banzai attacker with an Arisaka bayonet in-game.jpg|550px|thumb|none|BANZAI!!!]]

== Type 100 Submachine gun==
The [[Type 100 submachine gun]] is the main SMG for the Japanese.
[[Image:Submachine gun Type 100.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Arisaka Type 100 submachine gun - 8mm]]
[[Image:CODWaWType1001.jpg|thumb|none|550px|An imperial Japanese soldier with his Type 100 submachine gun.]]
[[Image:CoDWaWT100SMG.jpg|thumb|none|550px|An imperial Japanese soldier with a Type 100 submachine gun.]]

== Type 99 Light Machine Gun ==
The [[Type 99 Light Machine Gun]] is the main LMG (Light-Machine-Gun) for the Japanese.

[[Image:Type99LMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nambu Type 99 light machine gun - 7.7mm Arisaka]]
[[Image:Type99_5.png|thumb|none|400px|Type 99 in-game]]
[[Image:CoDWWType99LMG.png|thumb|none|550px|A Japanese soldier holding his Type 99 LMG.]]

== Nambu Type 14 Pistol ==
The [[Nambu Type 14 Pistol]] is first seen given to you by Sullivan, whether or not you replace it with a new weapon, it appears in your possession again after you are sliced by a Japanese soldier's Katana, as you are being dragged by Sullivan to the escape boat, but you do not get much of a chance to use it.

[[Image:NambuType14Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nambu Type 14 pistol - 8mm]]
[[Image:CoDWWNambuType14.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The player wielding a Nambu Type 14 pistol.]]
[[Image:Nambu_5.png|thumb|none|550px|Nambu in-game]]

== Type 97 hand grenade ==
The [[Type 97 hand grenade]] is the hand grenade for the Japanese.
[[Image:Japanese-type97-grenade.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Type 97 hand grenade]]
[[Image:CoDWaWtype97frag.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The player about to throw a Type 97 hand grenade]]

== Type 92 Heavy machine gun ==
The [[Type 92 Heavy machine gun]] is the main Heavy Machine Gun for the Japanese.

[[Image:Japanese Type 92 Heavy Machine Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nambu Type 92 Heavy machine gun - 7.7 mm]]
[[Image:CoDWaWType92HMG1.JPG|thumb|none|550px|An imperial Japanese soldier firing a Type 92 HMG from a pillbox.]]

=Red Army=

== Mosin Nagant ==
The [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin-Nagant]] is the first rifle given to you by Reznov, due to his lack of trigger finger [but for some reason firing a PPSh is fine], it is fitted with a scope. Right away you are not given ammo. In later levels they are in the hands of Russian Soldiers. For an unknown reason, they are more rare than PPSh SMGs.

[[Image:M9130.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Mosin Nagant 91/30 - 7.62x54R ]]
[[Image:CoDWWNagant.PNG|thumb|none|550px|A Soviet soldier executing a German POW with his Mosin Nagant rifle. His two comrades also have Mosin-Nagant rifles.]]
[[Image:Mosin_5.png|thumb|none|500px|Mosin-Nagant in-game. Notice it's sniper rifle style bolt handle, designed to accommodate a scope and not used on the standard infantry models.]]
[[Image:MosinNagantM9130Sniper.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Mosin-Nagant 91/30 Sniper Variant with Russian PU Sniper Scope and down-turned bolt handle]]
[[Image:Call-of-duty-world-at-war-20080715043818781.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Sergeant Reznov holding a Mosin-Nagant Sniper Variant.]]

== Tokarev SVT-40 Rifle==
Secondary Rifle for the Russians is the [[Tokarev SVT-40 Rifle]].

[[Image:SVT-40.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Tokarev SVT-40 Rifle - 7.62x54R ]]
[[Image:Svt40_5.png|thumb|none|400px|SVT-40 in-game]]
[[Image:CoDWaWSVT40.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A US marine firing a Soviet SVT-40 in the multiplayer mode.]]

== PPSh-41 ==
The [[PPSh-41]] is first seen in the hands of Reznov, after he gives you the Mosin-Nagant. It is also the standard Soviet SMG.

[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|PPSh-41 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:CODWaWPPSh41(2).JPG|thumb|none|550px|Sergeant Reznov holding a PPSh-41 Submachine Gun. Note that the 3rd-person model is incorrectly proportioned for some reason.]]

== Degtyaryev Light Machine Gun ==

[[Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun]]

[[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun (DP) Light Machine Gun - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[Image:CoDWWDPMG01.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A Soviet DP machine gun in the hands of a Marine Raider during a multiplayer match.]]

== Double-barreled shotgun ==

A [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Double-barreled shotgun]] makes its first appearance in the Asylum, found in the kitchen, with a sawed off stock and barrel. Later in the subway, it is seen normally, and are lying around in all of the offices.
[[Image:BaikalSBSShotgun.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Modern Baikal Commercial hammerless side by side shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Remington SBS.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sawn-off double barreled shotgun - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:CodwawDouble-barreled shotgun.JPG|thumb|none|550px|The player (as a Red Army soldier) using a unknown double-barreled shotgun.]]
[[Image:CoDWaWDBShotgun2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A soviet soldier firing his double-barreled shotgun. Note that in third-person view shells eject when fired.]]
[[Image:Double_Barrel_Action.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Double-Barrel in-game]]

== PTRS-41 ==
The [[PTRS-41 rifle|PTRS-41]] is always seen with a scope, despite the real rifle never being issued with one. It is first seen in single player during 'Vendetta'. Much later in 'Downfall,' one can be found on the second or third level.

[[Image:PTRS 41.jpg|thumb|none|550px|PTRS-41 anti-tank rifle - 14.5x144mm.]]
[[Image:Ptrs_5.png|thumb|none|400px|PTRS-41 in-game, Notice the Soviet insignia]]
[[Image:CoDWWPTRS3.JPG|thumb|none|550px|A soviet sniper using the PTRS-41 anti-tank rifle in the official multiplayer trailer. Note that it is ''ridiculous'' depicting this weapon being fired from the shoulder by a single man; the PTRS-41 is six feet long and weighs 45 pounds. A single soldier would only be expected to be able to ''carry'' the fully assembled rifle for short distances, never mind firing it while standing up.]]

== Tokarev TT-33 ==

The [[Tokarev TT-33]] is used to execute German prisoners, as well as your standard sidearm until you replace it.

[[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm]]
[[Image:Tt33_5.png|thumb|none|400px|TT-33 in-game]]
[[Image:CoDWaWTokarev.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A Soviet soldier about to execute a German POW with his Tokarev TT-33 pistol.]]

== RGD-33 hand grenade ==

[[RGD-33]]

[[Image:Rgd-33russianfrag mp.jpg|thumb|none|200px|RGD-33]]
[[Image:CoDWWRGD33.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The player as a Soviet soldier about to throw a RGD-33 fragmentation grenade.]]

== Molotov Cocktail ==

[[Image:Codwawmolotov.JPG|thumb|none|550px|The player playing as a Soviet soldier is lighting his Molotov cocktail.]]
[[Image:CoDWaWMolotov2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The Molotov cocktail being thrown.]]

==B-4 M1931 howitzer==

Archive footage of several of these 18-ton 203mm howitzers is present during the introduction to the Soviet campaign's Berlin levels; they are seen being used in the direct fire role, shooting down streets with their barrels level. They do not appear during gameplay.

[[Image:B-4small.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet B-4 M1931 howitzer - 203mm]]

=Wehrmacht=

== [[Karabiner 98k]] ==
The [[Karabiner 98k]] is the main rifle for the German Army.

[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm]]
[[Image:CoDWaWKar98k2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A German soldier losing his Kar98k rifle while shot.]]
[[Image:CoDWaWKar98k3.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A German soldier about to fire his Kar98k rifle.]]

== [[Gewehr 43]] ==
The [[Gewehr 43]] is the secondary rifle for the Germans.

[[Image:K43 nc.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Gewehr 43 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:G43_5.png|thumb|none|400px|Gewehr 43 in-game]]
[[Image:CoDWaWGewehr43.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The player as a marine is using a German Gewehr 43 against Japanese soldiers in the multiplayer mode.]]

== MP40 ==
The [[MP40]] is the main SMG for the Germans.

[[Image:MP40.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP40 - 9mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:Codwaw_mp40.JPG|thumb|none|550px|MP40 in-game]]
[[Image:CoDWaWMP403.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A Wehrmacht soldier firing his MP40.]]
[[Image:944199 20080819 screen003.jpg|thumb|none|550px|German POW's MP40 fallen on the floor near a Soviet soldier's foot.]]

== StG-44 ==
The [[Sturmgewehr 44|StG-44]] is the main support for the Germans.

[[Image:Sturmgewehr 44.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sturmgewehr 44 - 7.92x33mm]]
[[Image:CoDWWSTG44.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The StG-44 unlockable at level 37.]]
[[Image:Mp44_5.png|thumb|none|400px|MP-44 in-game]]

== FG 42 ==
The [[FG 42]] is the main LMG for the German Army. It is the only LMG that can be equipped with a telescopic sight.
[[Image:FG421stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|550px|FG42 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Firearm FG42.jpg|thumb|none|550px|FG 42 1st pattern with Zeiss ZF4 scope - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:Fg42_5.png|thumb|none|500px|FG-42 in-game]]
[[Image:Call-of-duty-world-at-war-20081007050209634.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The player using a FG42 in the '''War''' multiplayer mode as a German soldier.]]

== Walther P38 ==
The [[Walther P38]] is used by a German Soldier to shoot Private Petrenko just as he is attempting to plant the flag.

[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther P38 - 9mm]]
[[Image:Walther_P-38.png|thumb|none|400px|P38 in-game]]
[[Image:CoDWWP38(2).jpg|thumb|none|550px|The player as a Japanese soldier, has just shot all the bullets of his Walther P38 pistol on killing his enemy during the multiplayer mode.]]

== Model 24 Stielhandgranate ==
The [[Model 24 Stielhandgranate]] is the Wehrmacht hand grenade.

[[Image:24-43 grenade.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Model 24 Stielhandgranate "Potato Masher" High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:6e8278cc5a02a4ff05d3c306dcf6a52620080623143208.jpg|thumb|none|550px|German soldier with a Model 24 Stielhandgranate.]]

== Panzerschreck ==
The [[Panzerschreck]] is the main rocket launcher for the German Army.

[[Image:Tank h5.jpg|thumb|none|550px|Panzerschreck - 88mm]]
[[Image:CoDWaWPanzerschrek2.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A soviet soldier aiming a Panzerschreck.]]
[[Image:6e8278cc5a02a4ff05d3c306dcf6a52620080623143208 (2).jpg|thumb|none|400px|German soldier carrying a Panzerschreck.]]

== MG42 ==
The [[MG42]] is the main turret weapon in the game.

[[Image:MG42.jpg|thumb|none|550px|MG42 - 7.92 x 57mm Mauser (8mm Mauser)]]
[[Image:CoDWWMG42.jpg|thumb|none|550px|A MG42 set on a sandbag.]]
[[Image:CoDWWMG422.jpg|thumb|none|550px|The player as a Wehrmacht soldier is using a MG42 turret of a Panzer (tank).]]

== Panzerfaust ==
In Call of Duty: World at War, the Panzerfaust is seen in the archive videos before the level Downfall, but it isn't available to the player.

=Misc=

== Browning Hi-Power ==
The [[Browning Hi-Power]], like the Glock 17 in Call Of Duty 4, is not used in game, but is used in the "Overkill" perk symbol.

[[Image:WaW_Perk_Twoprimaries.png|thumb|none|300px|Two Browning Hi-Powers seen in partial silhouette. If you're having trouble seeing it, the footprint-looking part is space either side of the trigger.‎]]

== Sticky Bomb ==
Though there are not any British troops in the Xbox 360, PS3, Wii and PC versions, the British [[Sticky Bomb]] is able in the game.

[[Image:Sticky72ii.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The Sticky Bomb (officially the '''''No 74 ST Grenade''''')]]
[[Image:CoDWWStickyBomb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The sticky bomb available in the grenade section of the multiplayer mode's class creation.]]

== Holy Pistol ==
It's basically an M1911A1 that fires grenade rounds. It can be used in Nazi Zombies Map "Nacht Der Unoten" on the PC, by using the "Give All" PC Command.
[[Image:Shot0000_(2).jpg|thumb|none|550px|Holy Pistol in-game]]

== Melee Weapons ==

Go to the Discussion page to see the Melee Weapons used in the game.

=See Also=

'''Call of Duty franchise'''

* ''[[Call of Duty]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty: United Offensive]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty: Finest Hour]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty 2]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty 2: Big Red One]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty 3]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Nintendo DS Version)]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty: World at War: Final Fronts]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty: World at War (DS)]]''
* ''[[Modern Warfare 2]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty: Black Ops]]''

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[[Category:First-Person Shooter]]
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Talk:The Book of Eli

2011-07-09T01:23:10Z

USGIMar29: /* Elderly couple */

[[Image:Book-of-eli-poster.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|The Book of Eli (2010)]]

== Elderly couple ==
Saw the film last night. The old couple (Martha and George?) use an MP5 and M4 with a foregrip and some kind of scope. No idea what else is in their chest of weapons. --[[Special:Contributions/24.63.181.248|24.63.181.248]] 23:38, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

I watched it earlier today, they give meg from family guy a H&K MP7 from the sofa, and michael gambon (the old guy) has a pump action shotgun too, possibly a mariner or a trench gun, i wasnt payin too much attention at the time, fucking chatty bastard kids in the row behind. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 04:32, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I just saw this movie yesterday. I will have to say it was a pretty good film with some kick ass sword fighting and shootout scenes from Denzel. A very good and unique storyline also.- ArmoredMason619

is this film like mad max with the bible in it. an meg fromfamily guy is mila kunis. [[user:smish34|smish34]]

It's like Mad Max ate Trigun and shit out Borderlands [[Special:Contributions/99.135.186.44|99.135.186.44]]
:And the fornicated with Fallout. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 10:02, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

I know she's milla kunis, but to me every time i heard her speak all i could hear in the back of my mind was 'shut up meg!' And this film really is just fallout without the mutant creatures, nice twist at the end though. --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 01:09, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Eh, the whole thing about the bible put too much importance on religion for my tastes, but I still enjoyed the movie. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 05:43, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

:I dunno, I kinda enjoyed the opposing view points between faith vs. religion. Kinda refreshing seeing something that manages to bash the abuse of religion but still note the importance of faith ''and'' reason.
::Eh, it seemed more to me that Carnegie didn't even believe the bible, he just saw that, as I think he put it, 'weak minded fools' would, and he could use it to control them. I dunno, I might just be looking at it too critically. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 10:02, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:::But that's my point: Carnegie doesn't really care about the message of the book, he simply intends to use it as a tool. He wants the religion without faith and reason to balance it. I came away from this movie with the distinct impression that it was a pro-faith movie... that still didn't like blindly following what someone else told you is "god's will".

If you've ever seen The Road, came out around the same time as this it has some eerie similarities and could serve as a prologue to book of eli.

===Rifles===
(From the front page):
Looks like the Stock of a M24.

Personally I do remember an M1 carbine and what if my memory is correct a Steyr Manlicher sporting rifle. I'll have to look in a couple buyers guides to confirm the make and model. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 07:00, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

A bit of gun trivia. According to Gary Whitta, the film's screenwriter, posting on Tom Jane's message boards, there is a fellow on a rooftop who has the same rifle as Don Johnson in "a boy and his dog" which is one of the Hughes brothers favorite films and was, according to Gary, a big inspiration for this one. -J3

===Old Man===
The old man uses a 1897 trench gun. either a Winchester or a Norinco remake.

I wonder where the old man got the HK MP7. Oh well at least it would be easy to get ammo for! Gunner313
:How would MP7 ammo be more common then any other possible caliber... 9mm, .45ACP, .223, .308, 12ga would all be far more plentiful or any other caliber. That makes no sense. Apologies if your comment is sarcasm --Furious Oyster
::I assume that the old cannibals got their arsenal from people they've killed. The MP7 might have scavenged from a military or police arsenal after the Flash (the Apocalyptic event) by some wasteland wanderer, who then ended up on the anthropophagic couple's menu. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 10:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

: We don't even know how far into the future this is. It could have been 30 years before the movie's story that some US military or police adopted the MP7 into their arsenal and it was picked up by the old couple. I'm just wondering how Carnegie got his hands on an old fashion gattling gun, ammo and magazines, [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:05, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Hey E,
You're forgetting that people do make reproduction Gattling Guns. I'm guessing that it was found at the place of some Blackpowder Society member. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:59, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
: Many original Gatling Guns were made in .45-70, which is not an uncommon cartridge but not as available as 9mm, .45ACP, .223, .308, and 12ga. But with a set of reloading dies, not a difficult cartridge to reload for and is fairly economical with propellant powder if you are making Black-Powder-Equivalent loads.

== Pistols ==

I'm pretty sure the main bad guy was using a Browning Hi-Power. It looked like his main henchman used a Berretta 92 at the start of the first shootout in the town. And did anyone recognize Eli's pistol? [[User:Mandaloin|Mandaloin]] 06:18, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Dude check the main article, the Browning Tutone Beretta and Eli HK45 have all been accounted for --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 07:14, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

D'oh! >_<[[User:Mandaloin|Mandaloin]]

Just saw the movie last night and the revolver at the beginning of the movie was definitely a Colt DA revolver of some kind. It had the Colt hard rubber grips with the old style pull release.[[Special:Contributions/96.32.185.136|96.32.185.136]] 20:04, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
:I was just about to ask about that. If someone could get a screencap, it would be helpful to those who are curios. I mean, currently, the page just states that there's a 'Colt Police Positive. Unknown year likely a 38' somewhere in the movie. I'll edit it so it at least tells what it pertains to. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 05:43, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

==Trench gun?==
I have NOT seen this movie yet, but the screencap shows a shotgun that is stainless with black synthetic furniture... Forgive me if I'm wrong, but how can anyone claim that this is an original 1897 trench gun?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:26, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
:It looks like a Mossberg 500. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 16:33, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

You should see this movie ASAP! From what I recall it is a 1897, may not be original but it is one.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 16:00, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

I just watched the movie again, and looked at the screenshots on the page. The shotgun George is holding is indeed a Model 1897, but it is missing the bayonet lug that would qualify it as a Trench, at least from the angles I was checking. That would make it a Riot version, not a Trench. I'm not entirely sure about whether it has a heat shield either.

Talk:Falling Skies

2011-07-09T00:11:50Z

USGIMar29: /* Logistical concerns */

According to the web comics the sidearm of Thomas Mason is a .45 Para-Ordnance Nite-Tac.[[User:Fitz175|Fitz175]] 07:44, 30 April 2011 (CDT)

Somebody, Anthony I think, has a Berreta 92 INOX.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 09:33, 20 June 2011 (CDT)

Maggie ([[Sarah Carter]]) has a Colt Model 733 or 933, couldn't make out the handle. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:25, 20 June 2011 (CDT)

Which one was she?--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 20:10, 20 June 2011 (CDT)
It looks like an M733--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 20:20, 20 June 2011 (CDT)

There was also a PKM and an RPK used by the "good guys" against the outlaws at the end. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:04, 21 June 2011 (CDT)

== Mason's Type 56-1 ==

Does anyone know what Mason has on the stock of his T56-1? It looks like some sort of tape or something. I'm assuming it's to make it a bit more comfortable to fire from the shoulder. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:24, 23 June 2011 (CDT)

Looks like duct tape to me. Adds a little pading to the meatl stock.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 08:34, 24 June 2011 (CDT)

The tape effectively turns the back of the stock into more of a oval butt plate rather than a hollow U shape. Unfortunately, this would also mean that it would be impossible to unfold/fold the stock with the magazine in place. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:45, 24 June 2011 (CDT)

I did think to myself that it would obstruct the folding of the stock. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:31, 24 June 2011 (CDT)

== Clip vs. Mag ==

Just watching it now and that was the first time I've seen someone get corrected on calling a magazine a clip in a film or TV programme ever. Nice little touch. So far this series has a lot of promise. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:29, 23 June 2011 (CDT)

== Maggie's 1911 ==

I caught a re-run of the premier episode and after getting a good look at it, I'm pretty sure that Maggie's 1911 is a Colt Gold Cup National match judging by the sights and slide serrations. [[User:ShootingLiberal|ShootingLiberal]] 02:14, 29 June 2011 (CDT)

== Logistical concerns ==

Alien invasion basically throws the rules out the window I guess but why are Kalashnikov rifles, firing in full auto mind you, more abundant than AR-15 pattern rifles/carbines and other more common sporting and military surplus firearms? It's Boston; Colt and S&W are right down the road...

:AKs are more rebellious, I guess. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:36, 8 July 2011 (CDT)
:I guess. Wolverines. They were more prominent in the pilot so it could have been a budget thing.

7.62mm round is a lot more powerful than a 5.56 so that could be one of the reasons. Also they're a lot more reliable and require less maintenance. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:59, 8 July 2011 (CDT)

Aside from the main character, who uses either an AKM or Type 56, all of the other protagonists seems to use either 5.56mm rifles or 9mm SMGs. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:12, 8 July 2011 (CDT)

The screencaps don't illustrate my point too well but you're right, besides the main guy and one or two others it hasn't been fired all that much on screen though plenty of background guys pulling security duty have AKs. It seems to me that the main and secondary characters got the pick of the litter and the rest got whatever they had left available...

I could just be nitpicking again, it's a great show so far

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2011-07-08T16:45:34Z

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2011-07-08T16:42:52Z

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2011-07-08T16:33:02Z

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2011-07-08T16:20:05Z

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2011-07-08T16:19:26Z

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