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Talk:Beretta 93R

2012-11-20T15:39:23Z

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==wood grip image choice==
[[Image:Beretta M93.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 93R with wood grips - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:M93r.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 93R with wood grips - 9x19mm]]
Wouldn't the second pic be the better choice? It seems kind of airsofty to me. But the first image isn't a very good quality and the compensator is different from standard. I really think we should just use MPM's pic even if the grips don't match.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:17, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

==Additional Images==
[[Image:Beretta-93R.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Early Beretta 93R with butt-mounted magazine release and optional shoulder stock - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:M93r.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Beretta 93R - 9x19mm]]

==shoulder stock==
The 93R is hardly ever seen with it's attachable shoulder stock, and I find that to be a shame. Along with the VP70Z and the souped-up P38s from The Man From UNCLE, the shoulder-stocked machine pistol should be a staple of the movie villain or antihero.

The only thing I don't like about it is the collapsable left hand grip. It hurts your hand!

The cinema is one of the few places that such a weapon enjoys any real success!

== Wood (or is it Bakelite?) Grips ==
We really should have a photo with the brown grips. Those grips appear much more frequently than the black grips. IIRC, we used to have an MPM-quality photo with brown grips. I volunteer to go find one, be back soon -protoAuthor 00:55, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Long time browser, just wondering if the third pic is actually an M951R, looks like it to me.
:Not even close. [http://digitalsushi.com/midashi/website.mirrors/guns/world.guns.ru/handguns/beretta_951r_handle.jpg This] is a Beretta 951R (There's no "M").--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 00:09, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Jason X ==

i was just watching it, and i was thinking that the future guns look pretty awesome. i noticed that there was this autopistol and i noticed the telltale enlarged trigger guard of the beretta 93R. if anyone could start a page for that, that would be awesome, i would do it, but unfortunatly, i dont know how to do it.

sincerely, spartanlord91

:Then learn how to.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 12:02, 23 September 2011 (CDT)

== Magazines ==

Can the 93R accept ordinary 92 magazines? Or just the standard 20-round ones? --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 07:43, 18 February 2012 (CST).
:Yes, the magazines are interchangeable. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 15:18, 18 February 2012 (CST)
::Awesome, thanks :D --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 16:27, 18 February 2012 (CST).

== Another Overused Weapon ==

This is another weapon that, whether the real thing or a mock up, that, to me, seems to get way too much screen time given the fact that it has not actually been made in almost twenty years. As cool as I find the weapon it is another example of a firearm (like the USAS-12, AA-12 and SPAS-12) that is overused given its' rarity. Ok...rant ended. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 17:52, 18 February 2012 (CST)

== Error regarding the non-firing variant ==

Hello,

the airsoft KSC 93R is listed on this page by mistake I believe, as the 93R model with horizontal flash hider(not compensator)holes actually does, or did exist; it was the first version of the weapon that was released before they made the holes horizontal which spread the flash better. They also removed the full-auto fire mode as it was too uncontrollable even with the added grip and stock.

Peace.

Talk:Beretta 93R

2012-11-20T15:37:52Z

Titopular: /* Error regarding the non-firing variant */ new section

Talk:Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty

2012-05-31T09:55:16Z

Titopular: /* Laser sight on Snake's XM9 */ new section

There is also a FAMAS in a flashback sequence later in the game.--[[Special:Contributions/74.177.135.148|74.177.135.148]] 19:09, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

:Yep, when Solid Snake recounts what happened on the Tanker to Raiden in the Plant chapter. For some reason it's a higher-res model than the one in PS1 version of MGS1, which is odd since the Twin Snakes (which features high-res models of guns used in MGS1) wouldn't be released until 2004. Maybe the footage from that sequence is from an internal alpha or beta before the game was completed?

::Guess you might be bit too young to remember -- the MGS2 trailers from 2000 showed Snake, and ONLY Snake, on board the tanker, and at one point using a FAMAS. Throughout the final release of ''Sons of Liberty'' and ''Substance'', these trailers were used in several places, like the Tanker Incident as Pliskin explained it. Other footage from ''VR Missions (1999)'' (or ''Special Missions'', depending on where you lived in the world) was featured as well. -- Orca*

Also one reason why it was taken of, was that there is no reason to have FAMAS in Tanker. Only Genome Soldiers used it as their primary weapon in MGS1 and marines in tanker used M4A1. But it would have been cool easter egg though --[[User:SilentwarriorX|SilentwarriorX]] 02:35, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

:Well, to a lesser extent, ''maybe'', but one could also point out that Olga uses a USP; a german-made sidearm that is incompatible with the rest of the Gurlukovich soldiers' gear. It was most likely a tech demo piece; a virtual weapon that provided a frame work on which to build the M4A1 and AKS-74u's automatic fire and FPV animations. Totaly would've been a fun easter egg. --Orca*
:: Strictly speaking she had the USP as a backup weapon; Snake makes her toss a Makarov over the side. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 11:57, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

:::Never mind how using a subcompact pistol like the Makarov as a ''primary'' with a full-size USP equipped with a UTL backing it up makes little sense. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 21:13, 27 June 2011 (CDT)

::::Hey, it's better than designing a giant robot that has twin M61s it can't fire both of at once and has to throw itself completely off balance to aim at anything. Poor RAY. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 21:28, 27 June 2011 (CDT)

:::Yep, Metal Gear RAY would have been better had it mounted the the M61s in its "shoulders" as well, so it could use them against enemies at the front. Otherwise, I would think that RAY's water cutter (which has infinite ammunition for as long as the pumping equipment can hold out while the unit is immersed in water) was intended to be the primary mode of attack against enemies in the front and the M61s are meant to provide harrassing/covering fire to the sides. The missiles that RAY carries are supposed to supplement firepower in any direction. The awkward positioning of the M61 only becomes apparent when fighting a single opponent. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 01:21, 28 June 2011 (CDT)

=Sound suppressors in this game=
Does anyone know who might sell or make the "''totally radical''" suppressors seen in this game? I don't think a suppressor with its own iron sights (as the one used by the M9 tranquilizer variant seen in this game) or one with its own underslung laser-sight mounting (as seen on the AKS-74U suppressor in this game) is exactly "standard issue." Furthermore, is the iron-sight-suppressor/slide lock combo really a Knights Armament Corporation item?

This game is probably also the one of the few games of its fame level to actually feature sound suppressors on most everyone who has to use a gun indoors (in real life you do this to protect your hearing), and quite a lot of people who patrol outside do so as well. Even so, I find it odd that several of the clearing teams don't use suppressors at all, unless something in the helmets they wear acts as hearing protection. Was the widespread deployment of sound suppressors on most guards who patrol indoors a conscious design choice on the development team's part? Anyone got some interviews that specifically say this? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 17:37, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Erm... Ear defenders are a pretty standard bit of military kit; it's not too hard to assume they're wearing them underneath the helmet. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 09:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Article ==

This one's on my To Do list with the other MGS games, so don't worry too much about it being abysmally formatted: I'm going to fix that when I get around to screencapping it. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 21:34, 27 June 2011 (CDT)

:That's good news. I'm looking forward to it. Don't forget to include the strange guns of the Cypher UCAVs or the turret guns in this game; are they just M4A1s with Beta C-Mags attached or something else? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 01:21, 28 June 2011 (CDT)

::No idea, last time I played MGS2 was long before I'd be looking for something like that, I'm afraid. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:26, 28 June 2011 (CDT)

== Laser sight on Snake's XM9 ==

Hey guys,

Can anyone here identify the laser sight model fitted on Snake's XM9?
The main cover art shows it rather clearly. I have not been able to identify it though I am sure it exists because Yoji Shinkawa always uses exisitng weapons.

Thank you.