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User talk:ThePinko49

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ThePinko49:

Stop that fucking bullshit you're doing.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:32, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Nope :PPPPPPPPPPPPPP

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User talk:Alienqueen11

2010-07-22T15:58:03Z

ThePinko49: /* Transformers 3 */

Hi , there is a kid name Brady94 or something that keeps changing the images from H&K UMP, I asked him twice to stop doing it and he doesn´t understand , so if you could protect this image or ask him yourself because the images that he uploads are lousy ones compare to the pictures of moviepropmaster thanks.Gerry

Absolutely 18th C. weapons are fine - I even set up an anime section for fantasy weapons. I should be the one thanking you for helping me build the site! [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 06:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

You're quite welcome for the WotW help. As for the M16A2 and the Mk 19, the convoy scene should help. I believe one of the humvees (with the gunner wearing sunglasses instead of goggles) has the Mk 19 and the truck full of soldiers (one of which shouts to Robbie that he's gonna get run over) should be bristling with M16A2's. The hilltop battle scene would be another place to check for M16A2's if the convoy yields no results. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

:I'm afraid the gun you posted as an M16A2 from WotW is another M4A1 carbine. Note the short foregrip. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

::There you go, that's more like it. :) [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:01, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

== DSA-58OSW ==

I'm pretty sure that gun you posted from RE:Apocalypse is a DSA-58OSW, a FAL clone made by DS Arms, not a SCAR CQC.

== Scarface ==

Wow, nice job on [[Scarface]] - I just found it while browsing around the site! :) [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 04:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Beretta pistol SNAFU ==

Thank you for helping to clear up the mess reguarding the [[Beretta M92F]] and [[Beretta 93R]] pages. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Just a reminder ==

Just wanted to make sure you knew about the new category [[User:Bunni|Bunni]] implemented for screenshots, and that the tag for them should be posted in the description of each applicable pic. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Aircraft-mounted Lewis Gun images ==

Do you think you could find a non-screenshot image of the aircraft-mounted Lewis Gun like in Image:PDVD 081.jpg? That's the same machine gun mounted on the biplanes in the climax of ''[[King Kong (2005)|King Kong]]'', and an image of that weapon would greatly add to the article. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:10, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

: Disreguard, just saw that there was such an image on the ''[[The Mummy]]'' page. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:22, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

== Congrats! ==

Your Scarface page was featured on gorillamask.net and uniquedaily.com today - over 3,000 hits in the last few hours, I'll update you with the total number of viewers it receives. As a side note you should keep an eye on it for the next few days to erase any vandalism. Best, Chris. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

== Blocking Users ==

WikiSysop is me, bunni - I just don't make edits with the admin account so I don't screw anything up to bad. I perma blocked one guy for vandalism - post their ip's to my talk page and I'll give them the boot. The scarface page hit ebaumsworld so we're getting a ton of new traffic, 14,000 hits and counting in the last 12 hours - good thing I upgraded the server. :)

== Adding Admins ==

I'm all for that, you and orca are the only ones I'd trust with admin status though. Let me know if you're up for it and I'll figure out how to upgrade your accounts. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:55, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Digg ==

I submitted the Saving Private Ryan page to Digg - can you digg it? [http://digg.com/movies/A_visual_guide_to_the_guns_of_Saving_Private_Ryan http://digg.com/movies/A_visual_guide_to_the_guns_of_Saving_Private_Ryan] [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 18:29, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Page Redirection ==

If you could provide me with an email address or other secure means of communication I would be happy to tell you. Sorry for the covertness, just want to keep that knowledge from falling into the hands of vandals who might use it for malicious purposes. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

== Funny... ==

I was watching Goldmember on Fox last night, checked the site to see if anyone had done a page on it, was sad that no one had, then I woke up this morning and there it was. lol [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 16:51, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

== Sin City ==

Go ahead and edit the screenshots and page - I'm sure a couple of those are Colt Pythons... and I'm guessing Bruce Willis's is a large S&W... but I am at a total loss on revolvers in general. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 20:50, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

== Call for screenshots ==

I was wondering if you or Bunni could help add some screenshots to some of the film & game articles I've made? I'm only limited to images I've been able to scour off the internet, which sadly isn't much. Any help you two could provide would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:55, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

== Image:AA3_Handgun.jpg ==

Just looked at the pic of Mini Me with the unknown handgun, and it looks like some sort of [[Glock]] or a clone thereof. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:23, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

== American History X ==

Thanks for Editing the American History X page. My English sentences are not that good, so that is at least one thing you could help me with... ;-)
And about the credits: I just made the screenshots... You came up with all the names, so I think it should be your name on that page.

Sorry I didn't reply earlier on your message on my 'Talk': It was 7.35 a.m. here, so I was quite tired :-P
<br>[[User:Vinniebar|Vinniebar]] 17:19, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

== Picture ==

It's [http://imdb.com/name/nm0648249/ Timothy Olyphant]... :-P
<br>[[User:Vinniebar|Vinniebar]] 19:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

== You're now a Sysop, Congrats! ==

Thanks for all your efforts so far, I finally got the chance to research how to set user privileges and made both you and Orca Sysops. You can now ban users, delete and undelete pages, and revert pages to previous versions. Thanks much! Best, Chris [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 23:31, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Good News. ==

Awesome, go for it man. :) [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:51, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== BB2 G36K ==

It's only visible for a split second but one of the DEA agents Syd works with who is involved in the chase can be seen holding one in the Ford Bronco. I belive it's during the part where the Haitians are dumping cars off the hijacked semi truck. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== Screenshot Help? ==

I was wondering, do you know how to get screenshots with InterVideo WinDVD? I'd like to try to get some screenshots of my own, but don't know how with this program. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Is this it? ==

Negative, that's a G36C, note the carry handle design. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:09, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Screenshot Help ==

I'm afraid I don't see anything like that on my program. I'll ask Bunni if he can help. By the way, is it me, or does ''[[Bad Boys II]]'' have more guns than any other film on this site thus far? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Question ==

Just trying to keep the articles in a type of uniform order with the pics of the guns above the screenshots showing them. Hope that's not a problem? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:16, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Thanks ==

No problem at all. Your ''[[Dawn of the Dead (2004)|Dawn of the Dead]]'' article actually helped me ID one of the guns in ''[[Die Another Day]]'', namely the [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] revolver Bond uses in Cuba. Took one look at it and was immediately reminded of the one from your article. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 13:47, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re nice call ==

Yea the PA8 is a unique gun, it almost is a Franchi Spas 12 minus a few addons. I'm still working on the unknown guns fron V for Vendetta, Dawn of the Dead, and Mr.& Mrs Smith. Just let me know if there are others.--[[User:Gunner313|Gunner313]] 17:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

== two movie requests ==

You should add Miami Vice (new movie) to the list. Miami Vice has a lot of different guns. And a page needs to be made for Swordfish. Mabye three movies, Smokin Aces has a lot of gun play as well.--[[User:Gunner313|Gunner313]] 04:55, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== ''Underworld'' MP5 ID? ==

Are you sure that's the A2 version of the MP5 being used in ''[[Underworld]]''? That one screenshot shows what looks like an MP5A3-style telescoping stock vs. the MP5A2's fixed stock. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

== Awesome work on ''Lethal Weapon 4'' ==

Great work on the ''[[Lethal Weapon 4]]'' screenshots so far. Feel free to fill in any weapons and details I missed, as I haven't actually seen the film in a while and only put in what I could recall from memory. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:12, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

== ''Lethal Weapon 4'' mystery pistol ==

Can you ID the silver pistol in this screenshot and who's using it? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[[Image:LW4 Beretta2.jpg]]

== M41A Pulse Rifle Info ==

Heya, I noticed you're starting a page on ''[[Aliens]]'', and thought you might find this interesting.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M41A_pulse_rifle M41A Pulse Rifle @ Wikipedia]

Seems like there were components of three different real-world guns used to make the Space Marines' M41A Pulse Rifles. Also I believe the [[Heckler & Koch VP70]] makes an appearance in there somewhere. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Aliens ==

That flamethrower looks like it might have some [[M16 rifle series|M16]] in it, most notably the carry handle/rear sight assembly. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

: Also looks like it's got an [[M16 rifle series#M16/203 rifle and underslung launcher|M203]] handguard on it. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

== Miami Vice Id ==

I try and identify any gun you want. Miami vice has a lot of different guns in it.

== Miami Vice ==

Yes that will be fine.--[[User:Gunner313|Gunner313]] 21:43, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

== ''Miami Vice'' Sniper Rifle ==

I think this might be the sniper rifle from ''[[Miami Vice (2006)]]'', let me know what you think. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:17, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[[Image:Blaser93.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Blaser 93 sniper rifle 7.62x51mm NATO]]

== Re: Identification ==

Afraid not man, sorry. Can't make out any of the markings on it, and the casing doesn't match anything I'm familiar with. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 08:35, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: ''King Kong'' ==

Thanks a lot man, I appreciate it. I'm presently watching ''[[Clear and Present Danger]]'' and working on that page as I type this. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:08, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

== Thank you==

I just saw the work you did on ''[[King Kong (2005)]]'', and wanted to thank you for the excellent job you did with the screenshots. If you could help me with the ''[[Patriot Games]]'' article I'm currently working on I'd greatly appreciate it. It's presently airing on Spike TV as part of a [[Harrison Ford]] marathon they're running tonight. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Thanks ==

I'm afraid I've got no idea what kind of gun that is, other than some sort of field artillery gun. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:47, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

== Instant messenger? ==

Just out of curiousity, do you have any kind of instant messaging program so we could chat in real-time? I'm on AIM and YIM. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:55, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Instant Messenger ==

My AIM ID is bassmas314. Be sure to identify yourself when you IM me so I don't mistake you for a spammer. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:00, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

== Link for you ==

Heya, here's a link to some info about the [[Calico M960]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calico_M960 Calico M960 @ Wikipedia]

== Re: Spam ==

Affirmative. Spam identified and terminated as per standard operating procedures. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:52, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

== my user page ==

lol - those were some silly edits on my user page, thanks for taking care of them. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 17:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

== Re:M16A3 ==

How do you know it is a A3 the only difference between the A3 and A2 is the trigger group. From a distance both models look the same.--[[User:Gunner313|Gunner313]] 16:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

== Need ID for SoaP pistols ==

Just saw some semi-auto pistols at the start of ''[[Snakes on a Plane]]'' being used by Eddie Kim's henchmen but I couldn't ID them. They were seen with and without silencers. Any help would be appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

== Pistol ID Needed ==

Hey, do you think you could ID this pistol? I was browsing still images from ''[[The World Is Not Enough]]'' on IMDB and came upon this pic:

[[Image:TWINEPistol.JPG|thumb|none|500px|The "Cigar Lady" moments before using a [[Smith & Wesson 5906]] to blow up a hot air balloon and kill herself in ''[[The World Is Not Enough]]'']]

Any help would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Response from an anoymous user: I believe that the handgun in that picture is a Smith and Wesson 5906.

==Special Request==
You wrote: ''I also want to know if you can do me a favor, if you can upload a picture of a Remington 870 with Ghost Ring Sights and a High Capacity Tube like the one in the screenshot below for the Dawn of the Dead (2004) page, I would greatly appreciate it, and great work so far.''

Sure. I have a dozen Remington 870s set up for films, but none in that variation, but I will ask around to the other Weapons wranglers and see who has one like the one you're looking for. I will be taking shots of my 870s in the standard police and police folding stock versions. I will also try to get a pic of the 870 that Linda Hamilton actually used in T2. But a lot of the guns are used in a film and then retrofitted to look different for another movie. Thanks for the compliment. I sure would like people to see that IMFDB has REAL pics of REAL movie guns and not just copies of pics from Gun sites or (worse!) Airsoft pics. You know it DOES cost me money to get pics of some of those particular guns from famous movies .... I have to take the armorer who worked on the specific movie OUT to a nice lunch! hahahaha.

I am also pretty shocked that you, Orca, MT and others are so damned young! Y'all are just kids! But you have an IMPRESSIVE array of knowledge and wisdom and maturity for your years! I can tell you now, that you guys act more mature than tons of guys who are old enough to be your dads!
.....[[UserId#MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Looks like another spammer==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Template:GFDL
Don't know what this guy is trying to do, but at any rate, a complete page in another language is verboten.

== ''Armageddon'' screenshots ==

Thanks a lot for providing screenshots for ''[[Armageddon]]''! I only have the movie on VHS so wasn't able to get any images myself. You did a wonderful job, and really helped the article a lot. Keep up the awesome work, man! :) [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:18, 4 August 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]==
Thanks, you're screen shots are good too. Keep up the good work.
:I read your guns held, do you have any pictures of it so someone could I.D. it here. I got some major gunsmith bibles with just about every gun ever made and even if I can't I.D. it by sight, I'd have that book. Or is it a case of you held it a long time ago and couldn't remember it if you tried? Let me know, I'd love to help.

[[Re: Screenshot Help]]
[[By the way, is it me, or does Bad Boys II have more guns than any other film on this site thus far? Orca1 9904 01:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)]]
:Now my [[Last Action Hero]] and [[Hollow Point]] pages have it beat. Cool!

::Distict B13 has tied with Hollow Point. Both have 37. But if I had sorted all the guns on the wedding table section, I'd have had him beat. I guess the most gun heavy movies are the ones no one hears of or hasn't in a long time. Last Action Hero is a great movie, 34 guns, but no one really even knows about it.

:::Let's see how my ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' page turns out once I get back to work on it. I realize it doesn't have either of those pages beat yet, but every time I watch that movie, I see another type of gun in it that I didn't notice before. I'm willing to bet that it could have even ''[[District B13]]'' beat once I finish the page.

==Re: Thanks==
My computer was recently so dark I couldn't have seen it myself, but I turned the brightness up recently so I could see what the hell was going on. I could tell the 2nd shotgun was a Wincehster 12 because my dad just got one to fix in the shop ''and'' I had just been looking at a book that showed the bottom of the shotgun, which looked indentical to the shot in the movie. Thanks for complementing my [[Toy Soldiers]] page. I actually bought it off Ebay just to screencap it. I had seen it on TV and wanted to put it on the site because I thought it was cool. I'm actually just about to upload [[Heartbreak Ridge]] page, so you can check that out soon. Keep up the good work. -[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:Hey==

Oh, don't worry, I don't really want to "compete" or anything for most screenshots in a movie. But it must be said that ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' really does have a ridiculous number of different types of firearms, so once I get a new computer that's actually capable of playing DVDs without slowing down, I can get back to work on that. That, and the fact that making arrangements to move to Texas are proving rather difficult, are the reasons I keep delaying my work on the page.

You are right...I really should get the ''[[Boyz n the Hood]]'' and ''[[Belly]]'' pages re-done. I still have the screenshots I took before the Great Crash, and there aren't that many guns in either movie, so it's something I could get done.

:Wait, so you're one of the mods? And Orca, too? Whew! You know, for a while, I've thought this site's been going without any mods, because I see Bunni and Wykiscop (errr, I know I butchered that) so rarely. That's so odd that I just thought you guys were regular users like myself. Goes to show how behind I am...

:Yeah, I'm still trying to fix up the Beretta page. Is there a way to do breaks after each section for the different variants? I know there is in Wikipedia, but I couldn't get the same thing to work here. The Beretta page still needs some work, so does the SIG P220 series page, and the M1911 page is basically a disaster right now! Also, I did see your ''[[Shooter]]'' page - nice work! Sadly, I sold my Taurus PT92, which was a very old one (wood grips and no third position decocker) many years ago to pay for my AK, and now my S&W 4506 is my only pistol. I like Berettas and Tauruses, but I only prefer the Taurus slightly because I think the safety is in a better position (you can reach it with your thumb more easily than the Beretta).

==Re:MGS4 M1911A1==
Thanks, I wish I had one too. I hope to buy one soon but I'm unemployed and money is a big factor. I've got about $200 now, I'm half way there. I worship the 1911 from the 3rd game and hope to one day make one based on what is said in the game. The Uber 1911. I just wanted the code unless I get one anytime in the future.

==Re:Nice Job==
I can do those little pages day after day, it's the big movies that take a weekend to do. I'll take care of the other two Jurassic Parks sometime this week, I have the Rambos, Unforgiven, the other Sergio Leone westerns and a lot more on my list. -GM

==870==
[[Image:DotD Mossberg2.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
Per your request: That looks like a Remington 870 but the rear ghost ring sights look like Mossberg 590 style sights. Weird. I can get a Remington 870 with Ghost ring sights, but the sights I've seen don't look like Ving Rhames' gun. Have you found any shot on the web of the exact configuration that he has? Or did their armorer just put Mossberg Sights on a remington? MPM2008

==Check out the vandal==
Some moron is now vandalizing the [[Commando]] Page. His last comment when i said 'not to delete page contents and replace them with gibberish' was ''"It's fun. Good luck"''. But he changes his IP address every time.

==Beretta==

Hi,

This is kinda minor, but just so you know...the Beretta 92FS is not spelled "M92FS", "M92F", or "92 FS" (with a space between the '92' and 'FS'). It's exactly as I've spelled it: Beretta 92FS. Sorry to be nitpicky, but you know, that's what we're here for.

:It looks awesome now! I actually have the trilogy on DVD and have thought about screencapping this movie (and the first) for a while, but like a lot of things, I never seem to get around to it. But...that's OK, cause you've done a fine job yourself!

:One thing I should point out is that you might want to take a screencap of the end when Simon's men are all grabbing MP5Ks out of the crates before they try to flee the cops. I remember all of the MP5Ks in that particular scene being Daisy BB replicas of MP5Ks, and I figured that might be worth pointing out.

::Appreciated!

== Admin rights ==

I've re-added you as a Sysop - are you still having trouble banning people? [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 06:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

:Post the error you're receiving and I can work back from that, do you know if Orca is having any issues? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:38, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Admin Rights ==

I was unable to terminate the specified spammer, recieved the following error message:

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[[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:40, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

== What user? ==

I haven't been able to find a cause of the error. What user are you trying to ban? It may be the same issue we're having with non-english characters in the articles... also, create a new account and I will give that account admin privileges and we can see if it's something tied to the transfer of the accounts to the new server. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:31, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Tyrann now admin ==

Try out the other account and let me know the results on my bunni account [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 19:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

==Re: Bad Boys II P226==

Yeah, I suppose we should, just because MPM2008 went to the trouble of taking the picture and it would be a shame not to use it. Especially if it's a more accurate representation of the gun that Lawrence uses in the film.

==Beretta M92FS==
Don't know if this is good enough. Let me know. I was trying to find one with a Pietro Beretta marking on the slide, but a lot of mine have Beretta USA marked on the slide. If it's not good enough, then I'll keep on looking for one that's not all beat up with a Pietro Beretta marked slide. Alot of our Berettas are heavily customized.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px]]

::Hey, Alienqueen, now that we have our own genuine 92F picture courtesy of MoviePropMaster, do you want to start replacing the Beretta image that we've been using since the site was started? Last I checked, we have over 100 pages linking to the old Beretta image, so it might take a while, but I think it's worth our while to phase out older images taken from other sites, and replace them with MPM's images.

::BTW, to answer your question: There is pretty much zero difference between American-made 92Fs and Italian-made guns besides the markings. There are some internal differences between the original 92F and the 92FS, however, but I don't think it's terribly relevant for the purposes of this site.

==RE: Dawn of the Dead==
Feel free to remove them or add some of the info to the descriptions. -GM

==Re:==

Probably for the better...unfortunately, I'm not so good with shotguns (I have trouble telling Mossberg 500s apart from 590s, for instance). -MT2008

:Only thing is, I'm a bit worried, because isn't it going to fuck up all the links on movie/TV/game pages that go to the Beretta page? It's kind of a bad situation when you've got a page that's got so many other pages linked to it. Is there any way to find a list of pages that link directly to the Beretta 92F page?

:Also, I agree with you that people should not put links to gun pages in the titles. It looks really bad, and personally, I like pages to look clean and neat. -MT2008

:Oh, yeah, and I didn't realize you could delete stuff? Can I give you some other pages to delete? As well as images?

:::Hmmm, maybe I'll do it later. But right now, here are some pages that need to go, because the users who made them didn't check carefully enough to make sure that other pages existed, or because they just weren't relevant to IMFDB:

* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Mossberg_500_Bullpup_shotgun
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=The_silence_of_the_lambs
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Diamonds_are_Forever
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Licence_to_Kill
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Terrorists
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Top_Ten_Combat_Rifles
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Boondock_Saints
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun
* http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Heckler_%26_Koch_HK41

:::Also, the talk page for the SIG SG 551 page you deleted is still there, so you might wanna ditch that, too. -MT2008

::::Awesome! Will do. But it looks you've got a good start so far. -MT2008

:::::Thanks! Like I said, I will get around to it, though not tonight. -MT2008

::If I were you, I'd go ahead and just add a lock on MPM2008's images to be safe. But then again, considering this user has openly defied you and doesn't seem to be contributing much of use to IMFDB, you could also just ban him for being a nuisance. -MT2008

:::Good call. It sucks when we have to do stuff like that, but I think it's a necessary evil at the moment. -MT2008

Is it everyone you can't block? Or only people with weird characters in their names? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 22:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Hah! Try it out - I think I fixed it. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 22:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

==WTF?==
I leave for a few days and all Hell breaks loose! hahaha ;) What was going on? I think someone was being careless with image '''overwrites'''. I guess now I'm a mod, though I will pretty much only have time to protect images (and the occasional banning of a vandal, but only if I'm 100% sure). ;) You guys did a great job of reverting pics, many times BEFORE I even noticed it myself! :) That was pretty seamless and invisible support, but I suppose that it got tiresome for you guys. I guess I won't have to complain to a mod if I see more vandalism on the site. Thanks. I do like the ability to edit the uploaded images. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

edit: I still can't figure why someone would overwrite an image that was SHOT for IMFDB with a 'stolen' shot from the net. Weird.

==870==
As for the DOTD 870 I would have to get Mossberg ghost ring sights and PUT them on an 870, which is what I'm pretty sure the armorer did. I don't have ANY mossberg sights and currently aren't ready to spend the $$ to pick them up, but I will try to get someone with both to do us the favor and swap them for a pic. I'm pretty sure that will do it for the page. :) Will keep that on the list of things to do.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Finally Fixed! I swear this time! ==

OK - I think I got it - try banning now. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

==Re: Good news==

Excellent! Nice to be rid of that dude finally. I dunno what his problem was, anyway.

I appreciate the nomination for mod, but I must warn you that I'm not sure I can be all that helpful. I'm working 40 hrs. a week now, and I usually don't post from my computer at work. So it's kinda hard for me to keep watch on this site regularly like I could have done when I was still in college. -MT2008

:Oh, I'll most def accept it, provided Bunni's OK with it. I'm sure I can help out to some degree even if I can't always be on the site. I just thought I'd give you a heads-up. -MT2008

==Requests==
Okay, I'll get to it when I can.

==Screencaps==

One thing I'd recommend...for now, we should leave the movie screencaps up, but only if they're ones that haven't been replaced by better ones on their pages. Choi's shots from ''[[The Killer]]'', for instance, are worth keeping. I'll put them on the page when I get around to it. [[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:03, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, I think so. I'm guessing some of these images may have been uploaded for pages that were lost in the Great Crash. [[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:09, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

::Yep, that would be a good idea. And wow...between the two of us, we've REALLY put a serious dent in the number of unused images that were in circulation. Unfortunately, as I'm discovering, there are still some users who uploaded images of guns we already have JUST for their own pages - the ''[[Chaos]]'' page was a good example before I edited it. We're gonna have to watch out for stuff like that, too - unnecessary images of guns that appear on only one page. It looks like user [[User:Mmanalang|Mmanalang]] did this quite frequently - I'm gonna have to work on his ''[[Revolver]]'' page a bit, too. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:15, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:Jaws==
Go for it, I don't own it. I only added stuff to the page because I saw it on TV. If you do do it though, don't forget to cut out any widescreen bars and gets some nice shots of Sheider shooting his guns, because his current pic on his page is mediocre at best. -GM

==Finally got my CLASSIC 870 police shotgun==
Got brand new wood for it, since the existing wood was beat to crap... I don't remember if you asked for this or not. MPM2008
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px]]

==4 brothers HK41==
Uh, that's not an HK41. the 41 was the early precursor to the HK91 and fires the .308 round. That's a 223 magazine. that's an HK33.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:26, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:Someone else put down that it was an HK41, long before AlienQueen. I hadn't seen this movie in a while and couldn't remember what it was myself, but I doubted it was an HK41. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:28, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== Database Error ==

I just tried to access the article for ''[[The Beast of War]]'' and got some kind of database error. Think you & Bunni could take a look at it and find out what's wrong? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==Thanks==
Thanks for recommending me as an admin. to bunni. I really like being an admin. Check out my Leone trilogy sometime. That's a fistful of dollars, for a few dollars more, and the good the bad and the ugly if you don't know. I finally got them done. -GM
:Nice work with Four Brothers, btw.

==New pics==
Thanks. I try to please. I will be shooting a a3 and A4 as well as a Diemaco soon. I really want to start replacing all of the Colt commando and 653 pics when I can. I got better versions of all these guns and as you probably can tell, I've started taking all my pics with a Nikon Digital camera instead of shooting with a film camera and scanning the pics (some of the older ones were that "old School" way). The Digital camera sure makes a difference. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:07, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

==Thank you much! :)==
I explained my lighting set up to GM45 (you can check it out on his talk page), but it seems pretty complicated, but not so much once it's already set up. But thanks anyway. 99.999999% of the gun pics on the net SUCK! (also they're probably not public domain which is why IMFDB should try to replace as many of the copyrighted images as soon as possible). I just wonder if anyone notices (other than GM, MT, you and the other heavy duty mods/contributors), i.e. people who just visit IMFDB. So far I haven't seen any of my images pirated on other sites, so that's a good thing. :) hahaha.
I replaced one of my older M4 pics with a new one done with the new digital camera... It's one with aftermarket Rails but it's an iconic M4 image that we didn't have a good one of. I will also try to do the LE version and one with an M203, more like Thomas Jane's version in "the PUnisher". [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:48, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:ColtM4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Luger P08==
Hahahaha. I finally posted a pic of one of the Lugers we have in inventory. Apparently this is one of the Luger P08s used on the Television show "Hogan's Heroes" in the 1960s. It sure is beat up. Though that info is third hand is the only reason I don't post it because I don't have the info directly from the source. The Barrel was replaced about 20 years ago for some reason, which is why the finish doesn't match. It's a bit of TV history, thought you'd get a kick out of it. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:07, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:LugerP08Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

== Best of War ==

Fixed the page - the issue is with non-english language characters, the database is having an issue with them... I'm still trying to find a solution to that as it seems to be configured correctly... [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==Assault on Precinct 13==

Hey, have you seen the special feature from the ''[[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)‎]]'' DVD where Charles Taylor (the movie's armorer) shows off the guns used in the movie? Dunno if you've thought of this already, but you should screencaps from that and use them on the page, just as GunMaster did for the ''[[Bad Boys]]'' page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
: I should get rid of those pics tho, the armorer was actually showing guns ''similair'' to the ones in the film. I only realized this ''after'' I had finished uploading them. [[Shooter]] had a similair special featture.
::I have a lot of stuff to do tonight so I'll do it tommorow anyway, you starting AOP13 just help give me the extra boost to say "aw, f#@% it". -GM

To Alienqueen11.
I belive I am not aware of vandilising any articles. Maybye it was an edit I made that has been mis-classified as vandilism? I have made an article on Stormboy, which I wasnt sure on due to the fact its a kids movie.
[[User:Ultraussie|Ultraussie]] 03:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
NOTE: Now I remember that ive edited Die Another Day article with vandilism. Please dis-regard my previous message.
[[User:Ultraussie|Ultraussie]] 03:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

==Tears of the Sun==
Nice job chopping off the widescreen bars, it needed that. I did that with [[Quigley Down Under]], and I don't want to do it again after that. [[Training Day]], [[Rambo: First Blood]], and [[Hostage (2005)]] need similair treatment. -GM

==Check it out==
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-104 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::The only thing really bugging me is the stock. The buttstock is a converted synthetic AK74 (made to fold) but the sling swivel is on the wrong side and the big gap for the scope mount on the stock is not there. I am waiting for a shipment of the real buttstock for the 104. That's a movie gun so it's not a perfect example of the real world AK104. I'll put a note that this is will be rephotographed when I get the correct magazine and buttstock.
==Hostage==
Thanks, it looks much better but you missed one or two of them. How come the Beretta still has black bars but is squished now? -GM
:You missed one of the USP Expert shots. I always thought if they got all distorted that I did the upload wrong, now I knwo. Thanks for fixing it. It looks far better now. -GM

==Request==
I'll keep it in mind. I usually do a bunch of handguns at once, and then a bunch of Rifles at once because I have to shift and adjust the entire lighting setup to do each size. I've done a bunch of images that I haven't uploaded yet, because I want to edit out the plastic pegs holding up the guns in the photographic table. Edit: Some of the Berettas don't interswap. I tried it once. I'll try it amongst a variety of models to see what fits. I've noticed that some different finishes have different tolerances between the frame and the slide. Again I will add that to my long list of things to do.

hehehehe. Here's a weird one. I saw this WAAAAAAYYY in the back of the vault. Figured someone would be interested in it. ;)
[[Image:FG421stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|600px]] Too bad no one uses them for films...

==mystery gun==
hahaha sorry for being unclear and confusing with my file naming nomenclature :) . That's not an FG421. The file name is actually supposed to be FG42 1st pattern. It's a [[FG 42]] aka Fallschirmjäger Gewehr 42 - the full sized assault rifle that fired the 7.92 Mauser round, used by Fallschirmjäger (German Paratroopers) in World War 2. It's so rare that few people have one. I missed an opportunity to get the 2nd pattern one, and now I'm kicking myself for missing that opportunity. I could have had both versions. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==Widescreen Movies==
Two in need of fixing are MT2008's [[Training Day]] and [[The Replacement Killers]] pages, since they are on the main page. Other than my [[Rambo: First Blood]] page, I think that's it. Not to bug you or anything, I just thought I'd let you know. -GM

==The Dark side of movie guns==
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:BeatType56.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Heck at least it fireable....]]

==Smokin' Aces==
I don't own it but next time I go out, I'll buy it. My to-do list is sky-high and if I keep buying movies, I'll never bring it down. This is what is in my pile now.
*The Whole Nine Yards/The Whole Ten Yards DVD double featture
*Unforgiven
*Young Guns
*The Last Boyscout
*Mr. & Mrs. Smith (unrated cut)
*Starsky & Hutch
*Daredevil (director's cut)
*Supertroopers
*30 Days of Night
*Speed
*The Dirty Dozen
*Flags of our Fathers
*The Jackal
*Absolute Power
*The Thin Red Line
*Tango & Cash
*Blazing Saddles
As you can see, I'm trying not to make it any bigger until it is a least half done. But I can add one more I suppose. Almost done with ''[[Crank]]'', than I'll do Speed, 30 Days of Night, and the Whole Yards movies. Fun. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 04:08, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Happy Thanksgiving==
Hope you're eating well :) regards [[Special:Contributions/76.199.198.193|76.199.198.193]] 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail==
Don't know what your thougts are on this but I posted the message below:
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Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. '''It's a bottle with gasoline in it.''' It's not '''manufactured or crafted''', like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.

Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.

Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.

Since the page was made and effort was put into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?==
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.

The page on IMDFB.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi

Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode)
http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf

Your thoughts are appreciated.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

==The Dark Knight==
Thanks man, I'll get working on it soon. I was just starting when I saw gunny was adding shots. I stopped and started on Mail Call. Once I finish saving those shots, I'll get my DVD on. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. If you got the time [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== I wnat to be a mod ==

I've already requested to be a mod of the forums, though that place isn't as popular of talk as I thought, so I mind as well be one here [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:58, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, they are as heavy as they look. They have a real feel to them, but still somewhat lighter since not all of the parts are made of steel. I do play to buy a gas powered M4. It doesn't require a battery and operates by gas, so there is a working bolt and bolt catch, giving it a more realistic feel and even recoil. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 09:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

==Heckler & Koch UMP==

I'm sorry for the picture changes I just think it would be better if I could have a same replica of a UMP 45 and a UMP 9 to show how close and what the difference is. If you don't want it fine i'll just upload on other guns.

==Got it, finally :)==
[[Image:AKMSPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS Custom - 7.62x39mm]]
Now I will be updating with this pic. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

==Finally Answering your questions==
Sorry, but sometimes I miss the obvious! :) The AKM Pistol was one of several, I saw one with a painted bolt carrier. The one I photographed has a faded blued carrier. Don't know which variation was in which film. I think Mike's is the full auto gun, Harry's is the Semi auto pistol with a folding stock (Rambo 2008) registered as an SBR, but I'm not sure. So that's why I didn't mention if it was in anything or not, but I'm 100% sure that's the same type of gun. You asked previously if any of my M16s were from Iraq. That is unlikely for any armorer. All of the US Property marked M4s or M16s are being used or utilized by the military or national guard or given away to allied nations. All of our guns are lower receivers within the domestic chains of commerce, either pre-1986 transferable full auto lowers or post 86 dealer samples, none of which would be overseas or used by any government entity, whether military or law enforcement. Sometimes we "could" pick up a post 86 sample that was used by a non government entity (aka private party) like Blackwater Security in Iraq, but that's hypothetical and it hasn't happened. It's also funny that IMFDB tries to determine whether or not an M16 was the A2 or A3 variant. I don't know how some of the other rental houses get their stuff nowadays, but I would venture a guess that 95% of all the M4s or A4s are just commercially purchased barreled upper receivers, mounted on existing full auto A1 or A2 style lower receivers (built up and registered with ATF). I have rarely seen any 3 round burst guns in Movie armories, since no movie director ever uses it, so why spend the money on it. It's all smoke and mirrors and we build and rebuild guns all the time to make things look like the latest and greatest incarnation of the guns. I just converted a bunch of M16A1s into A4s for an film (spring 08) and then had to convert all of them BACK to A1 for a Vietnam movie. So most of the time it's a moot point. There are no distinctive A2s or A3s or C7s, or at least we can't tell from the rate of fire since most of the guns are "Build ups". All M16s in inventory go full auto or semi auto only. (that's as far as I've seen and I've handled and inspected literally one hundred movie M16/AR15 variants, including carbines, 9mms, fake XM177s, A1s, A2s, M4s, A4s). So I wonder, how do we reconcile the difference between the real world and the movie world? I think we should keep on doing as we are doing. Designate the difference between the A2s and A3s (etc) since that's correct in the real world and (whether intentional or not) that's what's being represented in the movies, but be aware that most of the guns are just dressed up A1s. Sorry for the longwinded post. Didn't mean to ramble. Have a happy new year [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:07, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW, I'm tickled (again) that IMFDB is the only place on the net to have a pic of this gun. :) (edit)(BTW: I will photograph a C7 for the site soon just to complete the M16 series)

==Mossbergs==
I'm putting up more Mossberg variants, but only those that have appeared in films. I also have some of the wooden stocked 500s (like the ones in The Way of the Gun). Which mossbergs do you want? Let me know and I'll put them on the list, but I am actively photographing more Mossbergs for the page right now anyway. Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I see what you wanted. Sure, you did fine. I thought you wanted me to cut out the 500 with heat shield on the comparison pic and replace it with the straight model, which would have taken more time. But you did great. You also cropped it just like I prefer it :) hahaha. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

==Scarface==
Do you still own Scarface? If you do, could you add a few extra shots? I recently have looked at Legions of Fate's page and it is a lot more filled out. Since a lot of people see that page, I think we kind of owe it to them to fill it out. Not that I'm forcing you to do it, just let me know if you do and you can. Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Thanks, I've been putting off [[Mail Call]] for almost a month now. Just finally uploading the season one caps. Then I'm going to do season two, which is pretty low on guns. The SNAFU dvd (which is goofs) has a LOT of guns and I'm really looking forward to it. I'm also going to link a youtube page showing the episode where Gunny goes to knob creek. Look up "Mail Call Knob Creek" if you have 20 minutes free and watch the pure awesomeness. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Nothing pisses me off more when people delete screencaps I take from a page. I think they do it because some of the shots look similair enough that they feel they should be removed. That isn't their right to decide. The person did it on [[The Dark Knight]] with the modified Glock with the shots of the Joker loading up and the flashpaper gun when it fires (the muzzle flash was very hard to catch) and he did this with the Collateral page when I noted how he missed the third guy and the muzzle flash shot with the USP in the club. Apparently anonymous users don't understand how hard our work can be. If he deletes another image, I'm banning his ass. If he returns and continues to delete images, I'm going to hunt him down and kill him. It is my right as a screencapper and an administrator. :) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Do anonymous users have a hate for my work? Apparently that guy thought my opinion was irrelavent for the site. I blocked the page for obvious reasons. I have half a mind to block him. I've always been adamant that anonymous users should not be able to edit. Like you said, at this rate that will eventually be the case. Thank god we have the ability to revert these asshole's changes. I for one can't believe he got rid of the whole faulty scope section and anything that sounded like an opinion. I was just listing goofs. What a douche bag. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==RE:==

Yeah, it annoyed me, too, mostly because it wasn't even that good a picture. Considering how much shit you can put on an M4 (just look at all the stuff that's included in SOPMOD), I would rather these users not set a precedent where anyone can upload a new picture of a gun we have simply because we don't have one with the ''exact'' same accessories setup as one in a particular movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

==DOD shotgun==
Still working on the Ghost ring gun, but I did manage to upload a surelight version that Ving Rhames used earlier in the film.
[[Image:Rem870w618Surefire.jpg‎|thumb|none|550px|Remington 870 with Model 618 Surefire light - 12 gauge]] Will keep you posted when I get the Ghost ring version done. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:32, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

==M1-C==
It loads the same. The whole point of the scope being off to the left (not right), is so the clip can be loaded and ejected. Personally I hate left mounted scopes, it makes aiming akward and you usually end up using your none dominant eye. Hope I helped.

And after so long, I finally am getting shoot em up screencapped. I tried downloading VLC media to screencap it but it was too hard to use so I used my sister's 1200 dollar laptop. It screencaps higher quality so it will look great. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Your question to Gunmaster45 about the M1C==
Sorry in interject here. I'm sure GM will say the same thing, but the scope are offset on these sniper rifles. They mount to the shooter's left off from the center line of the rifle. So you can still load and unload Enblocs from the top of the rifle. Here is an example I shot for you ;)
[[Image:M1CScopeMount.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M1C Garand Sniper rifle Scope mount - note how the scope hangs over the side, casting a shadow on the left side of the rifle wood.]]
Hope this helps. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Usable pic?==
I was tempted to reshoot this on a pintle mount so that I can get closer to the gun. Let me know if this format is preferable. I am still tempted to reshoot some of the Aircraft guns much closer so that we see more of the gun and less of the mount. I had to shoot it in the warehouse and digitally wipe out everything else with white (what a pain!) since I was alone and this sucker was TOO heavy to lift by myself! ;)
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Browning M2HB on Tripod Mount - .50 BMG]]
best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:31, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW: I need a photo wish list again, so please let me know which guns you really want to see a good pic of :) I will try to track them down for pics. :)

==Beretta M9==

''And if it's possible, can you obtain a U.S Military issue Beretta M9, I know it's very much the same as a Beretta 92FS, but I heard there were some slight differences, and it would go great with the M9A1 you uploaded before. But if you can't get ahold of it, it's okay. The 870 and the Beretta 92FS Inox are the main things I want.''

I'm not aware of any external differences, besides the fact that the M9 says "M9" instead of "92FS" on the slide. Actually, I take that back...I have seen at least one M9 that had the dot-bar sight instead of the three-dot sight. From what I read, this either is or was standard, but it's not exactly relevant because if MPM took a picture of an M9 from the side, you wouldn't be able to tell.

Anyway, the thing is...I can't imagine that there are any movies that use real military-issue M9s. I'm pretty sure all of the movies you see that have U.S. military personnel use the same Beretta 92FS (marked) pistols that are available to civilians. You already know that armorers are in the habit of dressing up M16A1s to look like A2s, or Browning M2s to look like DShKs, because they know the average moviegoer won't know the difference, so why would they go through the trouble of getting M9s just for the markings?

So if you ask me, it seems like a waste to have MPM photograph an M9. No movies use it, and there's just so much other stuff on his request list that I think this site needs ''way'' more than a picture of a Beretta M9. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:10, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Out of town starting late tonight==
Am going on location and meeting with a director and television executive for the standard business stuff, but I will be traveling between midnight tonight and Tuesday, so I will be offline until then. So if I don't answer a question right away, it's because I'm in a meeting or on location. Thanks. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Gunner313==
One [[User:Gunner313|Gunner313]]'s page, it says you blocked him for vandalism. He'd been a rather dilligent user in the past, what did he vandalize exactly? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Thanks==
I'm back again. hahahaha. i guess I should have CC'd you on the pics updates to Gunmaster45 and MT2008. My bad. I mentioned to them that I wanted to be the one to 'do the honors' of updating the pages with my pics, but you beat me to it. :) Well, that's what I get for getting yanked out of town on an emergency film shoot for a week. I will be posting about 30 new pics soon and I will be trying to update as I go along. best regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==Updates==
So what did you think of my last massive update? past the initial posting on the 'obvious pages' any other updates that are required, are appreciated. :) I spoke to the armorer of True Romance and made changes that he pointed out (and also photographed the GUNS). I was pretty thrilled when I got to photograph the original Beretta Pistols (though I will have to call the armorer and double check on the movie chronology and model type again) for the movies Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. I got the original Model 19 from Lethal Weapon (though I don't know if Danny Glover keeps it in any of the other movies (I stopped watching them after LW2 when I realized the director's incredibly anti gun views). I sure hope people don't mind that I replace some of their pics. I am also trying to replace LMO's movie gun pics where I can (since they belong to Dan Shea) and frankly, I think I take better pics of the guns ... ;) Did you get to check out the XXX movie guns? :) I replaced the 629 from both films with my own shot. I still have to double check the filmography of some of the guns. When I'm photographing the guns, we're literally pulling them out of the vault like crazy and photographing them and putting them back as quick as I can. As you can tell I had a TON of help from some pretty heavy hitters in the movie Armorer crowd and I think they like the way I take pics of their stuff. Anyway, if you want me to keep on going, let me know :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:28, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks for the formatting advice!==
Works like a charm! I fixed the 5906 page and it works great! As per the Berettas, yes, they were in a museum glass case. I just asked 'Hey! Can I take these out and photograph them?" So I did. I was very careful and put them on a Rubbermaid clear box that I brought with me and snapped away. It was less than Ideal photographic settings, since it was NOT in a studio with all the white backgrounds and special lighting rigs. I had just one working portable light and had to make do with that. I did a LOT of photoshop after the fact to clean up the pics. That I was pretty surprised that they were that beat up, but they have been used a lot and were in films as of 1986 up to the early 1990s. Anyway, sorry for my long winded post previously. You responded to me before I could post my initial comments! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:47, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up==
cc:d' to MT2008, GM45, Alienqueen11
I'm heading to another armory to photograph some more long guns this Saturday if all goes as planned. (I'll get a new StG-44 amongst other cool stuff (like a SR-25, all tricked out, etc.) I've been photographing a lot of pistols recently. Since the last group of famous gun pics took an entire day to photograph and multiple days to 'clean up and format' (and put electronic Copyright tagging) on the images. I am also returning to Stembridge/CW to photograph a bunch of their more famous subguns/shortshotguns. I already have permission to photograph the actual McMillan TAC-50 used in S.W.A.T. As far as my own inventory, I still have to rebuild and fix some of MY guns still. I still have an M249 full stock gun that I need to photograph and a Walther MPL that needs fixing. And a bunch of Benelli M3 Super 90s in different configurations :) I want to work some more on the M16 page. If I can't get a real 733 (for example) I will try to build up an exact duplicate of one in the right configuration and then take a pic of it. Some of my older photos of M16 guns (like the 733) were build ups (i.e. just a standard gun with the barrel cut down, and not the exact configuration of the original gun type). I want exact examples of each one so that our M16 page is '''the''' definitive page of M16 types on the net. BTW: I have to go down to CW again and I will try to grab more "the Quick and the Dead" guns ... :) More handguns, especially Sharon Stone's SAA and Russell Crowe's gun (and original holster) and all the original screen used guns from 'Iron Man'. ;) I am also trying to get a ton of more famous screen used western guns for GM45's pages. (I let HIM do the honors on the Western movie pages ;) ) Just a heads up guys! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:35, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

==Titles starting with 'The' ....==
I am willing to start mass changing titles that start with "The" to the standard nomenclature (used by IMDB) (i.e. instead of '''"The Shining"''' (yeah I know we don't have that movie ...) it would be '''"Shining, The"'''. I can't count how many people have complained to me (in person, not on the net) about that.

I have some famous armorers complaining about that ;) SO I am willing to start changing them myself. Any complaints? Seriously, if any of you are seriously offended by that, I will change them back.... no charge ;) But the last straw was some blog making fun of us because of that. :( So I am going to start changing the titles. Just wanted to give a heads up....

''('''edit:''' I've done nine titles as a test. So far, I like them, but I think MT2008 had a cool technique regarding re-directs which would allow the main page to have the fixed titles, but when you click on it, it goes to the original named page. Let me know what you think) :)''

Update on the new gun pics....
I started the new photo shoot on Say, but had to cut it short. Will reschedule and complete my massive new gun shoot either tomorrow or the next day. When I have a bunch, I start uploading them. :) But you guys are already bored with guns pics by now.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== Got A Project Idea For You ==

Think I found a movie that might be of interest for you to make a page for here; the 1997 sci-fi/horror film ''[[The Relic]]''. It features a monster terrorizing a Chicago museum and at one point a SWAT team is sent in to try to stop the creature and in another scene survivors try to escape the museum via the sewers and I believe at least one of them is armed with some kind of shotgun. Let me know what you think. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 03:04, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==You might get a kick out of this==
Would YOU want a handgun collection like this? The pistols on the right side belong to Syd Stembridge (he still has some stuff), and the back wall and left wall belong to Mike Papac. (And yes, the boxes on the ground are full, there is no room on the walls left. All the empty slots are for handguns that are either out for repair or out on rental. My own handgun inventory is less than half of theirs, so I'm a small fry compared to these guys. But I thought you'd get a kick out of this pic. A similar pic has been seen in articles in the past about Stembridge Gun Rentals, so it's nice to see that this room still exists, though I need a bigger wide angle lens, I can't get back far enough to even get a fraction of the room. It is massive.
[[Image:HandgunRoom.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|the handgun room]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==Imagine if you will.......==
Walking down a hallway in a warehouse, from floor to ceiling are wooden cubbyholes, in these cubby holes are jammed multiple items which comprise three specific things (either submachine gun, select fire pistol, or short barreled shotgun). I am not sure how these items are sorted but I don't care, I like it! I LOVE poking around places like this. It make me happy :) I also see some items which I will try to photograph for IMFDB in the future (recognizing some of the stuff that I have on my list to take pics of for some of the specific movie pages). I just needed to cheer myself up after hearing daily news from the new administration! Just thought I'd share it! :)
[[Image:ArmoryWall02.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|Which cubbyhole do you want to stick your hand in first!? ;) ]]
MPM2008

==Regarding message "Re: Imagine if you will......." on MPM's talk page==
The "green-looking Beretta" is a Taurus PT92 stunt gun from what I see. They typically use these for training people in gun handling who can't be trusted or for teaching disarming techniques when the gun needs to be dropped. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==You so owe me ;) ==
It was difficult to do the gun, but I said I would and I did. Mossberg and Remington parts are NOT easily interchangeable so I am mystified as to why the armorer for Dawn of the Dead did this franken-gun in the first place?
[[Image:Custom870wMossbergGhostRing.jpg|thumb|none|800px|Custom Remington 870 combat shotgun with Mossberg Ghost Ring sights - this is a shotgun built up exactly (!!!) like the one in the film]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:04, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

::edit - Fixed it, NOW it looks like the one in the movie. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:19, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

==Dawn of the Dead shotgun==
IMFDB member '''[[User:yournamehere|Yournamehere]]''' was right about the shotgun. He pointed out that it has an aftermarket extension tube, rather than the Stock remington one, and the tube clamp is set further back on the gun. I have one of those aftermarket extended tubes (easily swappable) and the tube clamp is easily moveable. I can swap out the aftermarket tube, put the shotgun back on the photography stand and rephotograph it. Argggh. More work for me, but I am glad IMFDB user's eagle eyes caught that, since I was building a gun based on screenshots. I will try to install that stuff and reshoot the gun tonight. MPM2008 Remember, if it ain't 100% then it ain't worth doing ;)

==Taking no more gun pics==
apparently it is becoming more acceptable for others to create 'frankengun' photoshop jobs out of my original pics and not even give credit. Heck. I would give credit to the previously Google jacked shots that I clean up with recropping, or color correcting if I knew who the original photographer was. But that's a minor point. My intent all along was to replace all jacked images with official licensed images. It's a lot of hard work and only a very few (like you) even seem to appreciate it. (plus you're way more tolerant of the inevitable flood of conflicting page styles and info from new (and some anonymous) users ... inevitable as the site gets more recognition). I'm on hiatus for taking pics of guns for a bit. Working hard for IMFDB should be enjoyable, not irritating. :( A break is good thing. MPM

==Re: Jacked images==

Oh, and look who it is that's been doing it, too...our good friend [[User:Cutaway|Cutaway]]. I've warned him about a whole bunch of things before (not the least of which includes uploading insane amounts of images we don't need). You think we should take harsher action this time? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

:OK, will do. But Cutaway seems to have a remarkable lack of regard for formatting and other stuff. He's also in the habit of ignoring requests. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:59, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

==THANKS! for the note of support==
It was appreciated. Well I am back from a pretty tough assignment (over a week of 14 hour days and nothing but grief) Regarding the break, I actually didn't know WHO did WHAT on the so called franken guns. I was not really paying attention for months to the M16 page and only concentrated on the AP74 22 clones at the bottom. I didn't even know that some guy (Kin93) out of Hong Kong had made so many franken guns out of my pics. But after a really BAD week (which I will go into on a general note later) I scanned up on the M16 page and saw literally a BUNCH of Franken M16 pics. I thought "WTF?!!" It wasn't so bad, in just it was just the topper of a really bad week (where someone in the real world took a custom shotgun I built, replaced the buttstock, and then showed it off to various art directors as a gun 'HE' built even though I did 99.99% of the work). So it was kinda just the straw that bent (not broke! :) ) the Camel's back for that time. I KNEW I had to take a break, and I sure felt better when I put a stop to the 'picture requests'. like a weight was taken off my back. (Also I was getting a little TOO wound up over the wave of new anonymous/newbie users whose gun knowledge is only airsoft/Video Games making wrong edits on all the pages. hahahaha. It was bound to happen and is the risk we all take on an open wiki page. Anyway THANKS for the note. I am now motivated to photograph real versions of the Franken guns, also so that we (IMFDB) don't get accused of 'creating virtual/fictional weapons' on the Internet.) Hope you've been doing well. best regards MPM

==link==
''Edit MPM2008, When you come back, I think you should see this:[1] ''
Okay. It's a Mark 23 page on Wikipedia. :) ????????? MPM2008

== Molotov from "Hostage" ==

While I do agree that this is a weapon, this is the Internet Movie ''FIREARMS'' Database. Molotovs don't qualify. Sorry.

==I'm confused here==
I may have forgotten so I need help. How was it that you ended up uploading this pic?
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:KahrCW9.jpg
Thanks [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:44, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

==Image rewrites==
Well I am against re-uploads for several reasons. I put on an electronic tag (i.e. an electronic watermark) but only recently. I am concerned that some of the images are right click 'saved' and when they are reloaded, the older 'saved' image overwrites the version with the newer electronic (copyright IMFDB) info that was invisible and only viewable through special software. Just a thought, since I don't have them on all my pics and I haven't gone through and redone all the old pics. Other than that issue, it's just stupid unless they want to somehow take credit for the pic (which seems to be a temptation for some members of IMFDB). MPM2008

== k98k better than the smle? ==

ok I won't edit anymore. what do you think about what I said?

if you study it ,you will find that the Mauser is better than the Lee Enfield.

==Finally replaced some of the old images==
[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two tone Jericho 941. All of our Jericho (original pics) are of the original 941. I don't have any of the 941FS, which seems to be the model which is used whenever they have two toned Jericho pistols - the FS has the decocker on the frame, not the slide. I'll check around to see if anyone has a 941FS model.]]
[[Image:HK91A3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler & Koch HK91-A3. I hated that jacked image of the A3 model with a 'custom flash hider and barrel' it was a non-standard configuration that no one would ever see in a movie.]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1894.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1894 - .30-30. Is this a saddle ring carbine? There's no marking on it other than Winchester Model 1894 - .30-30 Winchester and there doesn't seem to be a hole for the saddle ring, but it looks to be the same]]
[[Image:Benelli m3-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|FINALLY replaced that jacked image of a Benelli M3 Super 90!! I will also have a version of the M3 with ghost ring sights and the shorter pistol grip version soon]]
[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Finally replaced that 'place holder' picture of the black Jericho 941. I was sitting, staring at a 941 for weeks, but I didn't have time to set up the photographic lighting rig. This one is way better than the previous one.]]
I'm just doing pics as I can, not rushing out and killing myself trying to get weird or wacky configurations. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

==Redirecting==
Go to "Move" at the top of the page. It is WAY easier than making a new page and writing "#REDIRECT" and then linking it, which I'm assuming is what you do? BTW, glad to see you making pages, I haven't seen your work in a while. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Thanks, I hope you do upload some new shots for "I Am Legend". Bunni's caps on the page are too small IMO and some of the shots are jacked from Legions of Fate's site, which isn't cool. CTone has the right to be pissed if he finds his images on here. BTW, I linked The Hills Have Eyes so if someone searches it with the "THE" first it will redirect there. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I usually only replace shots when they are low res or really small. In I Am Legend's case, I see the caps as kind of being both. So I'd recommend you replace them. Besides, it is easier to screencap a movie if you take every cap necessary and never think "Oh, that one's already on the site", because then it is easier to miss things. And CTone does a great job on his site, although he doesn't always capture every gun in the movie as the users on IMFDB do. He's better for commentary, which I find quite insightful. I look forward to seeing IAL. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:::It's cool that you're doing new shots, but...how did you miss that really good close-up of the Mark 23's handle when it's sitting in the door of his SUV? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:52, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

::::Yeah, it's just my opinion, but I figure that's pretty much the best shot of the gun in the whole movie. I remember people on HKPRO used to argue over whether the gun was a USP or a Mark 23 before someone posted that exact shot from the DVD.

::::Also, just an FYI...the civilian Mark 23 isn't called the "SOCOM"; it's just called the Mark 23. You can see the picture of the gun we have, it just says "HK Mark 23" on the slide. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:59, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Not to be a pain, but do you think you could grab just TWO more shots from I Am Legend? We have images showing how it is equiped with a TA31F ACOG and a Pentagon light, do you think you could snap a shot of the false reticule and when he uses the light in the dark house so those sections can be filled out? I'd do it myself but I don't own the film, I just rented it one time. Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==WTF?==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Beretta_M92_%22Samurai_Edge%22
This is a dedicated gun page to a firearm that belongs to the Resident Evil VG universe only. Do you think this gun deserves a separate page? Being that it is a weapon that only exists in either airsoft or the VG series Resident Evil and is based on the 92FS or Elite alreadY? Your thoughts are appreciated. MPM2008

==Thanks==
I had no idea that this guy plagiarized the entire page from another site. Yep, that's a sure fire DELETE in my book. Thanks so much for the input. MPM2008

==Thanks==
Thanks you for the compliment! I didn't like the older Taurus images. That low resolution Stainless model pic bugged me for a long time. Also movies change the components so now that I have the guns (or easy access to them) I can swap out items to make the gun look identical to the movie versions. It's nice to know that folks notice ;) BTW: do you think we're spoiled regarding gun pics. I remember the bad old days when we had so many jacked AIRSOFT images! ugh! LOL. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Did someone ask for a Mossberg Pic?==
[[Image:Mossberg590Modified.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500AT wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge]]
I could have sworn that someone, someplace requested that I photograph a Mossberg 590 shotgun (parkerized version) with a 500AT wooden furniture for some movie '''but I can't remember now what it was for'''. Well, here it is! :) I actually bought the AT wood to put on one of my 590s for the pic so I sure hope that a movie used this configuration somewhere :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks so much!==
Yes, now I remember! Wow, I even made contributions to that page, but I forgot all about it and was searching through my requests to see who asked for a 590 in that configuration. Argghhh. I must be dyslexic or something! Those weren't AT stocks, but 500C stocks. I made the change to the Dead Presidents page to reflect that. AT has the vertical riot grooves. Sometimes my brain just doesn't work! Thanks again! You are too kind re: the photography compliment.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Calico Weapons page==
Well I've been busy, photographing every Calico Variant I can think of (or that is available to me). The Calicos are probably the least photographed weapon on the Internet and a lot of the web based information pages on the Calico are either wrong or lame. IMFDB will soon be the only place where a lot of these variants are seen (well at least via a cursory Google search). Tell me what you think of the page and if you see a Calico on a movie page that is NOT listed, I would appreciate the help! :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

==Any old gun page will do!==
Cutaway is not the only one doing it. New members are starting to post gun pages on whatever gun they think is cool, regardless of whether they appeared in anything or not. I'm tempted to start giving them a deadline to list a film, television show, anime, VG in which this firearm appears ..... or else I am DELETING their page. I am also tempted to delete the pages (not the images but just the page) of those bizarre Cutaway experimental guns that don't appear in anything (Like the Siamese Tromix which is a ONE OFF experimental gun from some custom gun maker in the SouthEastern U.S.). to be fair I will also have to DELETE my own Browning Pro-9 page, since I don't think it has appeared in anything yet, even though the images are of blank adapted guns in active armorer inventory. Should I keep pages for guns that are (a) blank adapted and (b) already in active rental inventory of SOME armory? The chances of them appearing in a future project is far greater than these obscure foreign or experimental guns. I look forward to your opinion on this. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:15, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

== Bravo ==

Thank you for getting rid of those rediculous movie & game templates, that was a great move. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks, been meaning to do some of those for a long time now, and I just scored a subscription to Blockbuster Total Access so I decided to start getting some of my to-do list sorted out. Pitty you can only get videos with that instead of games though. I also have more that I plan to work on using this, including the anime preceeding ''[[Patlabor: The Movie 2]]''. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

==I Am Legend==
The page looks great now, finally complete! BTW, thanks for removing the dumbass templates Dragon put on all the pages. Also, are you ever going to join the forum? You're a main user here, you should check out the forum. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Why do people forget Category:Movie?==
Actually sometimes I don't mind that they do forget Categorizing their pages. Some of the pages suck so bad that I want them to completely fall off the radar and not embarrass IMFDB ;) MPM2008

==RedHeat link==
Sorry about that. I forgot and linked the gun title. I will try really hard not to mess that up again :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

==Podbyrin==
Unfortunately it is a detailed copy of the pistol, made by a gunsmith fan of the movie built up from a 357 DE. It is a live firing pistol and adapted for hollywood blanks. Since i KNOW it is not a screen used pistol from Red Heat, but it may be a screen used pistol for [[V.I.P.]], should I remove it? I took a pic of it because it was 99% accurate (everything but the trigger guard) and I believed it to be the best pic of the Podbyrin on the net. Anyway, I'm glad you like it :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:56, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== ''Bad Boys II'' Screencaps ==

I would prefer they be changed back to the 400px size, please. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 03:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==
Since the news of David Carradine's death :( I was cruising around IMFDB and I noticed a nice touch to Charlton Heston's page. Someone put a photo of him, not a screenshot, in which it simply stated, "Charlton Heston: 1923 - 2008" I wanted to do something similar to Brandon Lee's page (1965-1993) :( , but I also thought that it would be nice (but completely optional) to put a DOB-DOD listing on actors who have passed away. I was going to do one for PhoenixEnt's page for Morris Ankrum the actor, I was going to put (1896-1964) but I figured I would check first. Also I thought it would be nice to know which of our famous actors have passed on. Thoughts anyone? I'm not going to do any sort of mass campaign to do so, but to know that no one else has objections would be nice. :) MPM2008

==Gran Torino==
I'm getting it for my birthday on the 27th of this month so I'll try to get it done by that time. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==template==
Thanks but PhoenixEnt designed the original template. I am just playing around with it to try to see what format seems best, and boy is it hard. I sure hope we all agree on something :) Thanks for the note, though. I am hoping my suggestions for the final version of the template will be instituted or something close, but I think the MODS should try to agree on something that we all think will suit the different pages well. Thanks. MPM2008

:Hey, Thanks for the good word. I am just part of the group that was thinking a little outside the IMFDB box. The template will be a great addition to IMFDB looks once it is all ratified between the Admins on the layout of the columns. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Template==
Thanks for the note. To the mods: Though my own preference is strongly towards chronological order, I can accede to the wishes of the majority. I do like the format of Title First, before actor. Please note all, in the [[Steyr AUG]] page that the title, then character, then actor template, dovetails nicely into the other genres (television) but also Anime and Video games. Since there is no Character in some and no Actor in Anime or Videgame, I think this order maintains the same look from Film all the way down to VG. Thanks and please look at the page to see what I was referring to. Thanks again. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:27, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==True Lies==
I've seen your [[True Lies]] page on the site for a very long time and you did an excellent job with it. It's one of my all time favorite movies. But I noticed both your DVD and mine put out some low-res squish images that look like some bizzare widescreen. I was wondering if I could re-do the page with specially treated images? I tried it with a shot of Arnie firing his Ruger P90 and it looks a little better:
[[Image:TrueLiesRugerP90test.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Granted the image isn't blu-ray quality, but it looks better right?]]
Let me know. It seems like I've been re-doing a lot of other people's old pages lately, mainly because I saved these movies on my list for last. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==the Hills have Eyes redirect==
I think it needs to be fixed. The part Category:Movie should be removed '''prior''' to the redirect and then amended later. After redirect we can put the Category":Movie part. Now the system thinks that there are two movies, one called "'''The''' Hills Have Eyes" sorted in the "T" section and "'''Hills''' Have Eyes, The" in the "H" Section. And I can't remove the Category:Movie part from the original redirected page. the other redirects were done like this. Can you fix it? I can't figure out how to fix it. Thanks [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:25, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

==Hills have eyes==
Thanks. I just noted it to you because I didnt' want to delete if you created it. The only way, it appears, to clear a ((category:Movie)) code from a redirected page is to delete it and create it from scratch. I've found that the re-directed page must be blank or uncategorized lest the blank page show up in the alphabetical listing. This was done several times intentionally with titles like Raiders of the lost ark, where someone input 'indiana jones and the raiders of the lost ark' so that it grouped in with all of the other films and yet re-directed correctly to 'raiders of the lost ark' as well as having an entry in the 'r' section as well. :) Thanks. I've been pretty busy so I've not been that active on IMFDB recently. Hope everything is still going well :) best regards MPM2008

==RE: Happy Birthday==
Thanks. Also, I got ''[[Gran Torino]]'' screencapped last night and am going to upload the screencaps now. After watching it, I have to say it is now one of my favorite movies. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==I'm back briefly==
Just dealing with a bunch of Indies who want guns... And as you well know, sometimes the production has no idea what they want ... and when they want it. Ugh! But I'm slammed with work so if you send me any messages, I apologize for not responding in a timely manner. best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
==RE Incomplete Category==
No problem, Thank Vangelis as well for making a incomplete template in addition :)
--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:44, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

==Alien vs. Predator: Requiem==

I did a bit of a re-vamp on the [[Alien vs. Predator: Requiem|AvP:R]] page. Nothing personal; just thought it would be better to post some improved screencaps with the correct aspect ratio, which is about 2.25:1 (instead of the 2:1 that yours had, which makes them look crushed horizontally). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:Nah, I'm still using VLC Media Player. However, there's a setting on VLC that allows you to change the Prefix of the screencaps when they're sent to your "My Pictures" folder, so that they won't all have "vlcsnap" on them. Because I've taken so many screencaps for this site, and because there's only a finite number of 5-digit numbers, I started to have issues with screencaps having the same File Name when I uploaded them. Better to ditch the "vlcsnap" prefix and get one that's movie-specific.

:Most of the screencaps on pages you've worked on look a bit "crushed" horizontally. It's most likely because your media player (whatever you use) has the aspect ratio set too low. The previous AvPR images you uploaded had an aspect ratio of 2:1. A better ratio is about 2.2:1 or 2.3:1, depending on what your player allows. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:19, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

==RE:==

Basically, it turns out that there may be some legal issues involved. I really can't say a whole lot more than that, but I'm trying to get to the bottom of the matter. In the meantime, the pictures, and any references to the company (you'll notice I deleted your post on my Talk Page) by name, have to go. I realize this seems strange, but please trust me on this. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, I really don't know what I'm doing in this case, and I'm worried that I may have gotten IMFDB into trouble. Or I might also be over-reacting a bit. It's just kind of hard to be sure right now, so to protect us, I'm taking precautions. I will figure out exactly what's going on, though. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

==Template Layout==
Hi Everyone, Now that I am back let's talk about the page layout template. On the forum we had one item brought up about the chronological order being reversed. Also another item was brought up about putting lies or boxing in the information. As admin it is up to us to police the site and make a decision that is agreed upon by the majority of admins and then implemented. Let's all go back to the [[Talk:Test Template Page]] and nail these last issues down. As we talk about it pages have been created and might need to be corrected so there is a standard look to all the gun and actor pages. Thanks for you input and help on the. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Re:Announcement 1==
The sporterized version has double set triggers used to lighten the trigger pull to make shots more accurate.

Info on sporterized version :After the World War I, the Treaty of Versailles left Germany extremely constricted in terms of military power. Civilians were not allowed to have any use of standard military weapons or ammunition. Since the 8 x 57 IS round was so stout and great for hunting, people did not want to give up on it, so a redesign of the cartridge was made for the civilian market and the 8 x 60 S accommodate the new longer case.

The also rare 8 x 64 S cartridge offers a comparable rechambering option for Mauser Gewehr 98 and Karabiner 98k rifles sporting 8 mm S-bores. Due to its larger case capacity the 8 x 64 S chambering offers better ballistic performance than the 8 x 60 S. Some custom rifles were made using Mauser 98's and rechambering them for the 9 x 57 Mauser.

Since the purpose for these rifles was hunting and sporting, the bolt was professionally bent down, gradually the bent bolt became the standard and replaced the older straight bolt (though that was of course not always the case). The standard military sights were replaced by a 100 m sight, along with a flip-up on the rear sight for 200 m. The military stocks were replaced by newer ones that did not include the extra piece of stock for the bayonet lug.

Today these sporter rifles are extremely rare and the 8 x 60 and 8 x 60 S, 8 x 64 and 8 x 64 S and 9 x 57 Mauser cartridges are nearly obsolete, as only few mainstream ammunition manufacturers along with some other smaller companies continue to produce them. When correct ammunition is used in a converted rifle, a 8 x 60 (S), 8 x 64 (S) or 9 x 57 Mauser modified Gewehr 98 can be an extremely potent and inexpensive long-range big-game rifle.

Also, many Gewehr 98 rifles acquired as trophies by Allied forces during the war and brought to the US were converted to the 8mm-06 wildcat cartridge, a modification of the original 8 x 57 IS chambering to 8 x 63 S to accommodate the use of common and inexpensive surplus .30-06 Springfield cartridges, with their 7.62 mm (.30 caliber) bullets replaced by 8 mm (.323 caliber) bullets. Such conversions are indistinguishable from unmodified rifle without careful examination, and can be quite dangerous if fired with the shorter 8 x 57 mm ammunition, as the cartridge case will stretch to fit the elongated chamber and possibly rupture in the process, spraying the shooter with leaked propellant gas. However, the Mauser 98 action is designed specifically to direct gas away from the shooter in the event of a case rupture. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 03:26, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

Thanks for reminding me. You can probably leave it. I'm planning to re-post the other pictures in about another week or so. It's really only the ''[[Public Enemies]]'' pictures that got us into trouble, not the others, so I'll probably restore the rest at some point. I'm only waiting to see if the situation has quieted down. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

==(here is a note I've been posting around IMFDB)==
''I recently had the unpleasant experience of having some of the performers being insulted in some of our movie pages see what some of the IMFDB members write. there are some pretty condescending remarks regarding horrible grips, gun stance, bad gun discipline and blinking while shooting. I'm trying to promote the website and it's embarrassing to see actors getting insulted for pretty trivial reasons. What are your thoughts regarding this?

See below:''

'''I'm asking all members to stop with the sarcastic comments in the screencap descriptions'''
Too many members feel it's funny to be extremely sarcastic about actor's shooting stance, their blinking, their pistol grips. Only if it's so over the top as for the average person to notice, then don't keep on harping on it. Most actors are given only a bare amount of time to train, if at all. Many times the editor picks the worst take for pistol grip, but best take for other reasons like acting. Also much of the blame falls on the director. Some directors don't want to be bothered trying to train the actors and don't allow us armorers to even give them more training than the minimum safety training. People in the industry check out this website, and some think we're a bunch of obnoxious kids. I am not happy when people in 'the biz' look at the site and scoff at the snarky remarks. Some of them are the actual actors being insulted. We can always put in criticism, but IMFDB members going forward going to criticize a film, should try to do so in a scholarly manner or not at all. Thanks for your cooperation [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:54, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==whoa==
Your edits are completely conflicting with my edits and crashing my updates. If you want to change all the Cruiser pics, go ahead, but let me know. THanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:00, 5 October 2009 (UTC) (edit) WOW you're fast. Show off! ;) You finished the pages before I could get to them.... :)

==Mariner cruiser==
I'll try to take a pic of a Mariner cruiser soon. I vaguely remember you asking me for a Remington 870 with black synthetic riot furniture. Was it you? I photographed one and was going to upload it but wasn't sure where it was needed. Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:05, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

==Remington 870 with black stocks==

Well here you go. I won't make any edits with this image until you're done with it ;)

[[Image:Remington870BlackSynthetic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 with early style Black Synthetic Riot foregrips and buttstock - 12 gauge. Remington has since changed the styling of their black synthetic furniture. ]]

== RE: Help! Do you have an aim or gtalk account we can chat over? ==

email me at cserrano@gmail.com

== OK, i think I've got a workaround ==

You can download the old version of the image file by clicking on the date the file was uploaded, then you get the original image. Download that image and re-upload it. For some reason the revert buttons aren't working. I did try and undo changes on pages and that was working for me OK. So FYI MPM's images aren't lost, the revert function just isn't working for some reason - I'll have my network admins take a look. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 00:11, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

:Looks like you figured out my workaround for the moment. The network admins are working on tracking down the bug, it may have been caused by the recent server move. The network admins username is Unixy, you may see them playing with images - reverting and uploading - don't ban them! They're just testing it out. Thanks much! [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 01:29, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

::Man, it's too bad that loser came back and screwed with the images. When we banned him the first time, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he just had troubles with English or something, but now it's clear that he is an out-and-out vandal. Sucks what happened. Anything I can do? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

:::I still see the image he uploaded. I think it's another bug. Like Chris said, the server probably just has glitches. Earlier today, I tried to delete some pictures that someone uploaded unnecessarily, and I couldn't for some reason. Hopefully, the server team can get the glitches ironed out. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:32, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks for your actions==
I was perusing the recent history and it looked like ALL hell had broken loose! I first thought that the server had crashed since multiple people were uploading what looked like my old files :) WTF happened? I guess now everything is back to normal, i presume. I think that the system is okay, since I saw the Blaser 93 on my page when I logged in and it looked okay. My own internet speed has been really SLOW today. I try to come in early today but it timed out several times. So I gave up and came back later. I guess that was a good thing. Whatever chaos happened, is gone now. Thanks for protecting my images. Now I have no problems with obviously superior pics being uploaded (I mean *I* do that to other pics, but I usually only overwrite crappy and obviously jacked images). Thanks..........so what else is new? ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:36, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

==What's going on with the site??!?!?!==
My IP address was blocked "indefinitely" for ''"Spamming to external links"'' WTF? Uh, that's not me. But I can log in and edit, but the first error message was just plain weird. It said to contact Alienqueen1 for information. Is the server acting really weird and mixing and matching errors and profiles around? Also I'm getting 503 error message more often than not. I figure something weird is going on, but I sure hope the system doesn't mix everything around and I end up getting banned because it thinks I'm someone else. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:49, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

==Huh?==
Yep that's me. but No one uses my machine, it's locked up near the GUNS ;) and I would NEVER put Russian language gibberish on any page. Holy cow, can a Russian douchebag steal my IP address? I actually think the screwed up servers mistakenly logged MY IP address when this Russian vandal posted on the Main page. It all leads back to the servers.... The servers..... are evil..... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:53, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

==Crazy Russian==
Of course now I'm worried that the general membership will think I'm some sort of asshole who randomly puts Russian language gibbberish on the main talk page! ;) '' "I swear those Viagra commercials were not mine!"'' [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:36, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

=='''Okay now that's weird'''==
(a) the changes on the Psych page were NOT me, however, MY IP address is seen on the history page. His changes weren't that bad. (b) the changes on the M1911 page AGAIN were NOT me. I would not put Dillinger's machine pistol M1911 on the page because it is a one off and like the Custom Remington 870 on Dawn of the Dead, should not clutter the M1911 page, except as a footnote. You are right. The anonymous user is using the same IP address as me and it is NOT ME. I always LOG in as MPM2008 when I edit now. I never edit while anonymous. That is weird.... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:46, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

:Testing, this is MoviePropMaster2008 editing in anonymous mode [[Special:Contributions/64.120.163.246|64.120.163.246]] 02:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
::Okay I am back, logged in a MoviePropMaster2008. Yep, that is my IP Address, but I didn't make any of those changes. I think the servers are screwed up. I still get 503 error messages all the time and this anonymous user doesn't sound like a Russian Spammer. This is serious. We routinely block vandals and now it looks like we'll be blocking useful members (or mods) without meaning to. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:50, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Testing--[[Special:Contributions/64.120.163.246|64.120.163.246]] 04:29, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

==New INOX photo!==
Hope you like the new Inox photo.
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS Inox - 9mm. This is a screen used gun by Kate McQuean ([[Cindy Crawford]]) in the film [[Fair Game]] (1995) ]]
[[Image:Beretta92FS 2ToneType01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS Two Tone - 9mm. This was built by swapping an Inox slide onto a Standard barrel and frame.]]

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:18, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the assist with the problem I had with that link. --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 06:38, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

==Thank you==
:Thanks for restoring the content of my user page. It took like an hour to type up in the first place and I didn't want to have to do it all over again-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:10, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, that would be great-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:27, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks (again)-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:31, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

==RE: Glock 19==

Alright, if you don't mind doing it. But as of my current count, there are 57 pages where the image needs to be replaced. Also be sure to delete the old one once you're through. Now, I must stop procrastinating and finish my seminar paper research... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:19, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks for your help==
On replacing the Glock 19 2nd Gen pics. I did that exactly why you thought I did. I wanted the file to be named Glock19 2nd Gen, not WViewpoint.jpg which made no sense, but it was the name of the original jacked image that I cleaned up per MT's request. Hope you like the new screen used gun updates. It's a ton of work but I"m still working on getting IMFDB the best pics of screen used weapons :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

==Where should I put this?==
People should realize that any film done after 1989 could have a Poly Tech Legend AK since it was the most accurate commercial copy of the original AK-47 milled receiver open front sight guns, other than using real AK-47 kits that became available after 1991 and making Domestic milled AK receivers (like they did for [[We Were Soldiers]]. Only films done outside the U.S. could get AK47s and after the fall of the wall in 1989-1990 Russia didn't export real AKs to the U.S. however their parts kits got here.
[[Image:AK47-PolyTechLegend.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Poly Tech Legend Series AK-47 Rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
Should I make a new section for it? or put it in the AK47 section? Either way a ton of work needs to be done on the AK47 page. I got a line on more original AK pics and also the "custom built" AKs like the ones in [[We Were Soldiers]]. Best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

So are you sick of my gun pics updates yet? ;)

== User: 216.170.149.34 ==

This user wrote on the [[Die Hard 2]] talk page, after someone left a comment about how the plane in the movie has an ejector seat, "yes it does doo-doo head" (this is probably the dumbest comment I've seen someone write, but nonetheless). Could you block this user? Thank you. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 00:01, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
::Um, I've seen veteran members, even one mod, get hostile or sarcastic in their comments. Depending on the circumstance, people sometimes get 'punchy'. I would tend to not view a mocking comment like that (despite it being infantile) in the same vein as an active vandal. But then that's just me. :) And you guys all know, I NEVER lose MY temper! ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:15, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

==You won't believe this==
Score! I've been holding off uploading these because I'm still waiting on an image for the [[Heartbreak Ridge']] page (their weapons are set up slightly differently) so I hope people will wait to update that page until I can get a good image for that page.

===Say Hello to My Little Friend!!!===
[[Scarface]] fans will crap in their pants. Got the ACTUAL '''screen used''' LITTLE FRIEND. Now I used black gaffers tape and taped two 30 round magazines together as best I could (to try to match the screenshots). Do you think that was smart? or should I just present it with a plain magazine? Anyway, I did that because I wanted people to see it as it was most seen in the movie (Wow that launcher is beat up, it's been 25 years after all since the movie was filmed!!!!) It is also the old launchers that were used before the Cobray 37mm launchers became prevalent.
[[Image:M16A1M203ScarfaceCombo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tony Montanas' 'Little Friend' from the movie [[Scarface]] - Motion Picture Faux M203 launcher attached to M16A1 - 5.56mm/39mm]]

===Screen used Zabala Shotgun===
This IS the gun used by 'The Skull' [[Gino Silva]] to blast Tony Montana in the movie. I also included a closeup shot of the top of the gun to show the markings.
[[Image:SBS-Shotgun_Scarface.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Screen used side by side Spanish Zabala Shotgun from the movie [[Scarface]] - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:SBS-ShotgunTOP_Scarface.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Top of the Screen used side by side Spanish Zabala Shotgun from the movie [[Scarface]] - 12 gauge. Note manufacturer markings on the top of the shotgun.]]

===RUN! GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!!!===
Recognize this lovely? I've been waiting to get pics for the [[Predator]] page for a while. So many weapons have either been sold off or taken apart and reconfigured for other movies.
[[Image:M16M203PredatorCombo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Motion Picture Faux M203 launcher attached to M16/SP1 Rilfe - 5.56mm/39mm. Configured as it appeared in the movie.]]

'''IMFDB is the only place in the WORLD, now that has these images. How cool is that?''' :) I got some screen used muskets from Last of the Mohicans (from private collections), which is interesting since I usually don't get many pre 1848 weapons.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:30, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

==This user==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=User_talk:67.183.66.44 That is the user that keeps adding the 870 pics I put into the talk page back onto the main page. (they were never on the main page before that also) I fixed it a day or two ago and he keeps putting them back in there. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:15, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

==Jacked images==
Thanks for deleting those jacked images. I thought [[User:Nyles|Nyles]] owned those when he uploaded them. I think I cleaned up one, but again, I am not sure, but for some reason I thought he did not jack them. Oh well. Of all folks on IMFDB, I think I hate jacked images the most. It pisses off the original copyright holders and I am sure they are writing about what 'pirates' IMFDB users are ... :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:57, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

== Shooter ==
Charles, i hope you dont mind, but im going to do a revamp of [[Shooter]] and get a few pictures of guns that was missed. I will credit you as the creator of the page. Thank you in advance. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]
:Thanks, but all i good really get was a good pic of the Cobray launcher. The others were just too fast to get a decent pic. -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]

==M60==
Actually I don't remember. I was going to reshoot the M60 shots anyway, so probably thats why I never bothered. Where have you been? I've been fighting the noobs all alone. I think I have a handful of veteran regular members assisting with undoing a bunch of erroneous edits by noobs or anonymous drive by members and no Mods to help ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:40, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

==Superfraud==
Look at his contributions. He's acting like a dick. It's bannhammer time.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:23, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:Also impersonating a Mod merits a stern warning. The fact that his only contributions were insults (pretty much) then that eliminated any suspicion that he was 'up to no good' and was in fact, making the MODS look bad, by acting like a jerk (even though I think I've slipped and acted like one in the past ... LOL! ;) )[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

==the member on probation==
Good to see you doin' the Mod thang again! :) Thought I was out there all alone! ;) I was tracking this 'guy' and realized that nearly all of his 'contributions to IMFDB' were things like this:
:''-Who pissed in your goddam cornflakes this morning??? Give the kid a break, he's having a little fun. So shut the fuck up unless you have something constructive to say, got it?''[[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]
:''-I don't like your tone, so stow it! He was just trying to help you, so swallow your goddamn attitude!''[[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]
:''-Yeah... this jackass doesn't know dick about firearms. Fucking moron.'' [[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]
:''-Learn to fucking spell, asshole''[[User:StrikerDelta|StrikerDelta]]

It's like an angrier Oliviera without any of the actual contributions. LOL! So I hope you agree with my stern initial warning. So far it's just bad judgment versus actual intentional vandalism, but deleting sections of pages makes the Mods watch him very carefully. :)

Anyway, it's good to see you out there smacking down the attitudes on IMFDB again. :D regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:09, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

::I'm back for a few hours. I have Internet access but I'm not on my own computer so I can't upload any pics for now. Watch out for this Striker Delta. His IP address is 60.241.135.241 so he also does anonymous contributions under that as well. I noticed a few minutes ago that he is back to deleting whole sections of discussion sections. Now, those sections were kinda dumb anyway (one of them was the argument on the M16 page about full auto versus semi auto), but Mods should be the ones to delete sections, not some noob. It is not for a new guy to determine what is relevant in a discussion section, IMHO, not having had the experience of knowing what is relevant over a long time. Also he tends to delete QUESTIONS posed by other new members on discussion pages, some of which I think we should see so that we can address them. I can't monitor his activity being that I'm working 16 hour days this month, but I hope you can keep an eye on him. thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:43, 17 April 2010 (UTC) well back to work!

== WAW ==

Quick question, what the **** with world at war? I haven't been her in a while so please explain to me what went on.[[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 21:33, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks for the comments ==

Thanks for your comments, I hope the user will take heed. I'm replacing some of the PNG's with JPG's for [[The Incredible Hulk]] and [[Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine]] pages. If you delete those PNG's I've replaced, that would be great. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:40, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Hybrid==
It should NOT be on the Thompson page, but I suppose it's okay on the U571 page since it's attempting to replicate what they had. I am going to try and figure out what exactly they had, mock it up and photograph it later.

BTW:
Check this out:
Hope you don't mind me uploading it OVER your pic? Just checking. I don't have the Parker-hale Bipod, but I figured What the heck.
[[Image:Accuracy International Arctic Warfare - Psg 90.jpg|thumb|none|800px|Accuracy International AW 308 - 7.62x51mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:32, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

::Done, I deleted my pic and overwrote the old pic so that all the links to the pages still work :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:52, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

==Should I have blocked this guy?==
He's an anonymous IP address and all he did was slowly, bit by bit, delete the entire discussion page of the VG. It struck me as weird, but I could be tired and cranky so I thought I would asked a few other Mods to see if I overreacted. I can always life the ban.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/72.9.28.64
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:15, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

that guy sounds like a ass good to ban him. sometimes we have to here that persons side of the story
then ban him, but he deleted the whole page. i hate people that have to ruin others stuff.

==Interesting email I recieved==

I recieved an interesting email today in regards to deleting a duplicate image of an [[RKG-3 anti-tank grenade]], filename 'RKG-3 GRENADE REPLICA.jpg' and I thought I should share it to see what you and the other senior admins think of it. Below is the bulk of the message in its entirety:

"Hello,

Thank you for the image update on IMFDB, we didn’t load those images originally due to copyright issues and chose to use an image from our company website instead. Any questions you have regarding ordnance or weapons feel free to send an email. Thank you and any questions, please do not hesitate to let me know.

Sincerely,

M. Patrick Jordan
Sales and Logistics

INERT PRODUCTS, LLC.
INERT EXPLOSIVE TRAINING PRODUCTS
Email - Sales@Inertproducts.com
Phone: 1-570-341-3751
Fax: 570-300 -1693
http://www.inertproducts.com"

If I'm interpreting this correctly, it sounds like someone uploaded a copyrighted image without permission and the owners of the image emailed me to thank me for removing it. What do you think? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:44, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

==Colt SAA==
Hey, I was just wondering if I could reorganize the SAA page by creating the tables and listing the titles in correct chronological order. I just wanted permission before I started editing things. Thanks --[[User:ThePotShot|ThePotShot]] 23:54, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

==Russian spammers==
And to think that user KLOGA (who apparently is no longer with us due to my evil Cyrillic ban on IMFDB) asserted that 'there are no Cyrillic spammers on IMFDB'. Yeah right. Good job with those two Russian Spammer idiots. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:33, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

==Transformers 3==
Okay. I was SNOOKERED. Apparently this member LIAM who is [[User:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]] is a fanboy who created the facebook page himself, even though the page says the "OFFICIAL" transformers 3 facebook page, thus falsely implying that it is sanctioned by the studio. NOT being a sanctioned facebook page, immediately makes it suspect in my eyes and I vote for deletion. These behind the scenes photos were not released by the studio. They were personally taken by people on set and 'leaked'. The only reason why I did not ban it immediately was because I thought it was an officially facebook sanctioned page. ''' It is not.''' We can get into serious trouble if studio lawyers all of a sudden get pissed at IMFDB and start sending us 'cease and desist' letters to 'remove' all of our screencaps. That would spell the END Of IMFDB. All because of one fanboy idiot. But I wonder what you think about the matter "No Harm done?" or "delete" ? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Your a fuckin moron like excalibur arnt you. Why the fuck would anyone want to end this pile of shit. To be honest, I hope it does. Not only is it full of neurotic fucking idiots but YOU are the fan boys. Get a fucking life. It doesnt Endanger IMFDB! It not linked to it in anyways you dickhead and if you think it does you pretty stupid. Please stop this petty bitching. The lawyers wont do anything because they dont give a fuck and wont get anything out of Sueing this site. You are pretty fucked in the head if you think other wise you fucktard!

Black Hawk Down

2010-07-22T15:33:28Z

ThePinko49: /* DShK Heavy Machine Gun */

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Black Hawk Down''':''
[[Image:Black hawk down ver1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''[[Black Hawk Down]]'' (2001)]]

== Colt Commando ==

The Delta operators mainly wield the M727 and M733 variants of the [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando]]. The M727 variant is identified by its A2 upper receiver and 14.5" barrel with the cutout for mounting an M203 grenade launcher; the M733 has the shorter 11.5" barrel. Staff Sergeant Daniel Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) is the first Delta member on screen, and also the first soldier we see carrying an [[M16 rifle series#Colt Carbine/Model 653/Model 733|M727]]. All Delta members carry M727s and M733s, fitted with various accessories such as Aimpoint scopes and surefire flashlights. Master Sergeant Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) can be seen carrying an M733 featuring a camouflage paint scheme and a sound suppressor, which is then used by Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) to pick off several more Somalis before running out of ammunition and being overwhelmed.

[[Image:Coltm727ima.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt Model 727 5.56x45mm]]

===Delta Customs===
The Delta Force operators arm themselves differently from the Rangers by using customized Colt Model 727 and 733 rifles as opposed to longer, heavier M16A2 rifles. Many are fitted with such accessories as Aimpoint red dot scopes and Surefire tactical lights (with the pressure switch taped to the handguard with 100mph or electrical tape). Some of the Colts have camouflage paint schemes, and some of them are fitted with 14.5" barrels with M203 cuts (M727).
[[Image:BHD-M733.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SSG Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) aims an M727 carbine at Somali militants raiding a Red Cross food distribution center while aboard a Blackhawk. Note the flashlight pressure switch taped to the handguard.]]
[[Image:BHD-M733-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M727 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) uses his M727 to shoot out of a Humvee window.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A wounded SSG Busch climbs out of his crashed Blackhawk and fires his M727 at the Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson fires his M727 during the "Mogadishu Mile".]]

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===Rangers===
While the Rangers are armed almost entirely with [[M16A2]] rifles, Captain Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) uses an M733 rifle, noted by the 11.5" barrel, with nothing modified or changed. SFC "Doc" Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) also uses an M733, presumably because as a medic, he would need a lighter, more versatile weapon to move quickly to wounded soldiers.
[[Image:Colt Model 733.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Model 733 with 11.5" Barrel (The Model 723 is the export model of the same weapon - used by forces of the UAE and US Delta Force) 5.56mm]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) with his M733 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele shows the Delta Operators you don't need a fancy scope to fire an M733. Iron sights.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Ranger medic SFC Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) with his M733 in hand.]]

===Delta Sniper===
Delta Force MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) uses an [[M16_rifle_series#Colt_Carbine.2FModel_653.2FModel_727.2FModel_733|M733]] carbine modified with a camouflage paint scheme, Aimpoint scope, tactical light, and a sound suppressor. Shughart gives this rifle to the wounded Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant, who uses it before it runs out of ammo.
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) hovers above the second crash site with his suppressed M733.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon fires his suppressed M733 in defense of the crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mike Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) with Gordon's M733.]]

===CAR-15===
Some of the Deltas Operators are seen using [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando CAR-15]] carbines with the original long type muzzle brake, which are also heavily customized. There is a high possibility they are built from several Commando types so a definite I.D. isn't certain unless the armorer can verify it.

[[Image:BHDXM177E2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with his CAR-15 rifle at the ready, right side.]]
[[Image:BHD 2006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with a CAR-15.]]
[[Image:BHDXM177E2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator fires on a Somali .50 gunner with his CAR-15.]]

==Colt M4 carbine==
Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) seems to use an [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|Colt M4 carbine]] with the same customizations and paint job as the Commando rifles when doing solo operations in Somalia, noted by its removable carry handle. He uses it to shoot a wild boar from a chopper, and is chastised by CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) for keeping the weapon's safety off in the barracks. One of the Deltas is also seen using an M4 carbine during the operation itself.

A bit of anachronism here, both the M4 and M4A1 entered service in 1994, a year after the events of this film (in 1993), so the M4 should technically not be in Hoot's hands. The probable reason was the fact that most of the earlier M16 Carbines are hard to come by, so they needed something to fill that gap.

[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4 carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHDM4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Who's hungry?" Hoot readies his M4 carbine to shoot a wild boar. Note flashlight pressure switch attached to the handguards with electric tape. Also note that Hoot racks the action twice; once when he boards the chopper, and another time when he readies to shoot the boar.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele points out to Hoot that, whether an undisciplined Delta Operator or not, his M4 carbine should be safeties-on in the barracks. Hoot replies, "This is my safety", and bends his index finger. Note the knobs on the carry handle used to remove it from the gun and custom pistol grip. Also note that this particular weapon is quite clearly a rubber prop version, which are normally used only for stunt work.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator breaches and clears with an M4 carbine in hand. Note the removable carry handle.]]

== M60 machine gun ==
Specialist Shawn Nelson ([[Ewen Bremner]]) can be seen carrying an [[M60 machine gun]] machine gun as his standard weapon. A mounted M60 is also seen and fired from at least one of the Humvees in the extraction convoy. Some of the Somalis can be seen using them as well

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[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M60.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-Blanks.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60, here clearly loaded with blanks.]]
[[Image:BHD-M60-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson fires his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson firing his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the humvees.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1-1-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his M60 at the Somalis.]]
===Special===
[[Image:DHD3Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta actor shows vehicle-mounted M60s.]]

== FN Minimi ==

Several Rangers can be seen carrying [[FN Minimi|FN Minimis]] throughout the film, standing in for the [[FN Minimi|M249-E1 SAW]]. It is also the weapon used by Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) to accidentally deafen Nelson when he fires it too close to his head. The Minimis are also fitted with circular 200-round cloth ammo bags instead of hard plastic drums.

[[Image:M249 FN MINIMI DA-SC-85-11586 c1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN Minimi 5.56x45mm with 200-round ammo drum]]
[[Image:BHD-M249-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) with an FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHD-M249.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) firing his Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Twombley with his FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the charging handle rocking in slow motion on the FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) with his FN Minimi, yelling to Yurek about how they almost killed him]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his FN Minimi during the "Mogadishu Mile"]]

== M16A2 ==

SSG Matt Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Rangers armed, like most of them, with an [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]].

[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SSG Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Ranger team, many armed with M16A2s]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann firing his M16A2 at Somali militia as the Rangers make their way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Mike Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) fires his M16A2 while making his way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann fires his M16A2 during the rescue of SSG Busch. The pilot on the left is CWO Keith Jones, who was the pilot who rescued the real Busch during the actual event. It is evident from this shot that the lower receiver is that of an M16A1, not the A2, thus these rifles were built up on A1 lowers.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) with his M16A2 as the Rangers and Delta hold off the Somalia forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) switches between his M14 and an M16A2 as the Delta snipers defend their position at the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Probably the only Ranger in the film to fire bursts from his M16A2. Rangers are usually trained not to fire in bursts unless "they have a damn good reason", as quoted by several Drill Sergeants.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD1Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor in Delta clothes shows M16A2 in the movie armory.]]

== M14 Rifle ==
The [[M14 Rifle#M14 Rifle|M14 rifle]] is seen being used by Delta Force Sergeant First Class Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]), most notably when he and MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) are covering the second crash site. His M14 sports a camouflage paint scheme and an M68 Aimpoint scope.
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M21.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14. This shot appears to have been reversed. Note how the bolt and the battery slot on the Aimpoint is on the left side, not the right. Also see how Shughart and Gordon (off-shot) are right-handed in the other shots except for this one.]]
[[Image:BHD-M21-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart covers the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14 in defense of the second crash site.]]

==M16A1==
[[M16#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1]] rifles are seen in the Somali arms dealer's shop and one militia member is seen loading up one. At one point, Rangers can be seen watching a portion of the film ''[[The Jerk]]'' where a madman is trying to shoot the protagonist using a scoped M16A1.

[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M16A1 rifles hang in the dealer's shop along with M16A2s, likely captured from American forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moments before his epileptic seizure, LT Beales ([[Ioan Gruffudd]]) is watching a scene from ''[[The Jerk]]'' where the Madman ([[M. Emmet Walsh]]) is seen firing a scoped M16A1.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militiaman picks up an M16A1 with the flash hider removed and with a strange smooth ten round magazine.]]

==CETME==
Spanish [[CETME]] rifles are seen among the weapons in the arms dealer's shop, many of which are taken by the militia to combat the U.S. forces. They are not [[Heckler & Koch G3]]s, most notably because they have a simple fixed sight instead of a rear sight spindle.
[[Image:cetme.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Spanish CETME rifle chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Militia members pick up CETME rifles in the dealer's shop.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CETME rifles hanging next to the dealer.]]

== Heckler & Koch G3A3 ==

The local militia arm themselves with, among many other weapons, actual [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch G3A3]] assault rifles.

[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|G3A3 7.62x51mm NATO with green synthetic furniture]]
[[Image:BHD-G3A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member firing a G3A3 at the first MH-60K crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member takes cover from a Ranger's .50 caliber barrage armed with a G3A3.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member fires his G3A3.]]

== PKM Light Machine Gun ==

A [[PK Machine Gun|PKM light machine gun]] is seen resting on a table in the Somali arms dealer's shop.

[[Image:PKM-mg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PKM light machine gun 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PKM sits on the arms dealer's table]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of the PKM muzzle brake]]

==SVD Dragunov==
When Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) is in the Somali town, he passes the arms dealer, who has an [[SVD Dragunov]] on display.
[[Image:SVD Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SVD Dragunov - 7.62x54R.]]
[[Image:Bhd svd-edited.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An SVD Dragunov is seen behind Hoot. (Interesting anachronism here: the shades, Oakley Juliets, worn by actor Eric Bana did not exist during the events of this film.)]]

== RPK ==
One of the Somalis fires on Mike Durant's Black Hawk armed with an [[RPK light machine gun]]. Its blonde furniture indicates it could be a foreign copy. The machining divots in the receiver could help indicate its origins as well.
(the milled receiver, blonde wood, and the fact that the selector is in semi seem to suggest it is an Arsenal Bulgarian RPK, probably a US-made semi-auto variant)
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPK light machine gun 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDRPK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his RPK at the downed Black Hawk.]]

== RPG-7 ==

The Russian manufactured [[RPG-7]] features prominently in the film as the weapon which brings down a pair of UH-60 Blackhawks. In one scene inspired by an actual event, a projectile from an RPG-7 strikes PVT. Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]), the driver of one of the M-35 deuce and a half trucks in Lieutenant Colonel Danny McKnight ([[Tom Sizemore]])'s convoy and fails to detonate, impaling the luckless soldier instead.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 40mm]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RPG-7s being handed out by the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD-RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An antitank grenade being fired at a Black Hawk. It is obviously CGI, since there is no backblast.]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A milita member fires the RPG that takes down Super Six One, causing the first Blackhawk crash of the operation.]]
[[Image:BHDRPGhead.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An undetonated RPG warhead impales the deuce and a half driver, PFC Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]).]]

==Norinco Type 69==
Along with [[RPG-7]]s, Chinese [[RPG-7#Type 69|Norinco Type 69]] launchers are used by the militia.
[[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco Type 69 - 70mm.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69. Note how there is only one pistol grip and how he is holding the carry handle.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69.]]

== Norinco Type 56 ==
A full stock [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56]] is used by a Somali to whack Mike Durant in the head. It has a slanted AKM syle muzzle brake added on.
[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 with pig sticker type bayonet 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDType56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali smacks Mike Durant across the face with a Norinco Type 56.]]

== Norinco Type 56-1 ==

Nearly all of the Somali gunmen are armed with the [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56-1]] assault rifle, which is a Chinese derivative of the [[AK-47|AKS-47]]/[[AK-47#AKMS|AKMS]]. They are identified by the hooded front sights, which only Chinese Kalashnikov rifles have. At one point in the film, one of the soldiers can be seen removing the magazine from a discarded Type 56-1 and stuffing it in an empty pouch. Whether this was done to take back a souvenir or for some other reason is not known.

[[Image:Type56S.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A "Skinny" dies firing his Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Somali militiamen running with Type 56-1 rifles.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A round from this Norinco Type 56-1 causes the first KIA of the operation, SGT Dominic Pilla.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali kills SGT Joyce ([[Chris Beetem]]) with a shot to his back with a Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the hooded front sight on this Somali's 56-1.]]

== AKS-74U ==

Mo'alim ([[Razaaq Adoti]]), the Somali militia leader, carries an [[AKS-74U]] as his weapon of choice, first seen picking it up and inspecting it before heading into battle, then firing a burst into the air to break up the mob attacking one of the surviving Blackhawk pilots before announcing that he was to be taken alive as a prisoner.

[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK74.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim picks up and inspects an AKS-74U before heading into battle.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A clearer shot of the AKS-74U.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim with his AKS-74U.]]

== SPG-9 Recoilless Rifle ==

At one point in the film, Aidid's militia begin to bombard the building the majority of the Rangers and Deltas have taken cover in with mortars and an [[SPG-9 recoilless rifle]]. A group of Deltas led by Hoot soon kill the gunners and then turn the weapon against the militia, killing several with one shot.
[[Image:Spg-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SPG-9 recoiless rifle - 73mm]]
[[Image:BHD 010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aidid's militia prepare to fire the SPG-9 Recoilless on the Rangers and Deltas who are holed-up at the first crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD 012.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After eliminating the recoilless operators, Hoot and another Delta operator prepare to fire the SPG-9 recoilless rifle on the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD 009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) fires the recoilless rifle.]]

== AN/M14 Incendiary Grenade ==

There are several appearances in the film of [[AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]s; used by Deltas to destroy sensitive equipment at both Blackhawk crash sites, as well as to destroy the SPG-9 recoilless rifle mentioned above once Hoot and his team are done with it. Another one can be seen sitting on a table when Hoot is loading up.

[[Image:AN-M14 Incendiary Grenade.jpg|thumb|none|150px|AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AN/M14 incendiary grenade (far left) on a table]]

==Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher==
Many of the Rangers' [[M16 rifle series|M16A2s]] are fitted with [[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm Flare Launchers]], standing in for the [[M203 grenade launcher]]. Most notably seen in the hands of SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) of CPT Steele's ([[Jason Isaacs]]) unit. See flare launcher page for a guide on telling them apart.

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[[Image:Coltflare.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher]] 37mm.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger behind CPT Steele is seen armed with an M16A2/CM203. Note the squared trigger guard and cocking bolt on the right side.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele gives the dying SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) his M16A2/CM203, ordering him to give anyone two in the chest and one in the head if they enter the door.]]

== M203 Grenade Launcher ==

While the [[Colt Flare Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm launchers]] are fitted on most of the Ranger's [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]] rifles, a couple of actual [[M203 grenade launcher]]s attached to [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2s]] are seen, the most notable of which is Specialist John Grimes ([[Ewan McGregor]]) who assists Delta in taking out a ''technical'' that has them pinned down, missing the first shot before destroying the vehicle with a High-Explosive Dual-Purpose (HEDP) grenade from his M203.

[[Image:M16A2 M203.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M203 grenade launcher 40mm mounted on M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes with his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger in Eversmann's unit armed with an M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-5.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M203 like a proper desk clerk, eyes closed.]]
[[Image:BlackHawk 6006.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|It seems that [[Ewan McGregor]] has never fired an M203, as his depiction of recoil is horrible.]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes ejects a spent 40mm grenade.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here the trigger guard appears to have been removed]]

== M1911A1 ==
We see the [[M1911A1]] pistol in the hands of the Delta operators as their sidearm of choice. As the two Delta snipers attempt to secure the second crash site they are forced to draw their M1911A1 pistols as the overwhelming Somali forces close in on them. Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) can be seen at the firing range with an M1911A1 near the beginning of the film.

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[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) shows the Rangers what a .45 can do. (That is, better firepower at the cost of running out of ammunition twice as quickly.)]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MSG Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) fires his M1911A1 at the Somalis. At one point, his M1911A1 jams and the muzzle flashes are all CGI.]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) fires his M1911A1 while defending the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD-1911-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Despite being wounded, SFC Shughart continues to fire his M1911A1.]]
[[Image:BHD 015.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M1911A1 during the "Mogadishu Mile". It seems unlikely a well trained operator would wear his flight gloves like shown.]]
[[Image:Blackhawk11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of SGT Sanderson's M1911A1.]]

== Tokarev TT-33 ==

A Somali militiaman uses a [[Tokarev TT-33]] to kill SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) at the second crash site.
[[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali unloads his TT-33 into SFC Shughart]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the TT-33]]

== Beretta 92FS ==

The [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92FS]] pistol is seen a few times in the film in the hands of Rangers, and members of Lieutenant Colonel McKnight's convoy. Mainly it is seen in the hands of Maddox in the Humvee. McKnight himself carries his 92FS sidearm around as a proper means to defend himself.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:BHD-M9-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Humvee driver, Maddox ([[Michael Roof]]) fires his Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:BHDM9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McKnight is seen armed with his 92FS when walking away from a Ranger, blown in half by an RPG.]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5A3 ==

Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]), the MH-60 Black Hawk pilot of Super Six-Four, is armed with a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] with a slim handgrip and uses it to defend himself after he's shot down. The MP5 was briefly issued to helicopter crews as a personal defense weapon (PDW), but was discontinued in this role when it was determined its 9x19mm ammo lacked sufficient stopping power against armor-wearing or drug-crazed enemies, as was the case in Somalia. The guns is also briefly used by SFC Randy Shughart before being killed by the overwhelming militia.
In the book and real life, the weapons were actually [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|MP5K]]s. They were referred to as "Skinny Popper, a reference to the men's nickname for the Somalis.

[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm with slim handguard]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While trapped in his pilot seat, CWO3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) prepares to defend himself with his H&K MP5A3.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant fires his Heckler & Koch MP5A3 at the approaching Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHD 018.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant continues firing his H&K MP5A3 as the Delta snipers extract him from his downed Black Hawk.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) is firing the MP5A3 as he is shot.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD2Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor aims Durant's MP5 in movie armory. Note the other weapons behind him.]]

== Browning M2HB ==
The [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] heavy machine gun is fielded by the US Army on their HMMWVs, the U.N. forces on their APCs, and the Somali militia on their technicals in the film. The opening shots of the film feature Somali militiamen slaughtering a gathered crowd at a food distribution center with the powerful fifty-cal.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG in vehicle mounting]]
[[Image:BHD 022.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The opening shots of Black Hawk Down. Aidid's gunmen open fire on the crowd at the food distribution center with the Browning M2.]]
[[Image:BHD 025.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An Army Humvee with a Browning M2HB mounted on the roof, actually a rubber prop as shown when the barrel bounces when the Humvee goes over some bumps.]]
[[Image:BHD 001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Dominic Pilla ([[Danny Hoch]]) fires the M2HB from his Humvee as they evac an injured Ranger back to base.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) clearing the roof top of "skinnies" with an M2HB.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of Hoot firing the M2HB (Note that this was a movie blooper, since Hoot was actually wearing Nomex gloves.)]]
[[Image:BHDM2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mean-faced Somali awaits to fire on the Rangers with the M2HB.]]

== GE M134 Minigun ==

During the slaughter of the crowd, the U.S. forces hovering in the MH-60 aren't cleared to fire the [[GE M134 Minigun|Dillon Aero M134 minigun]]s mounted on their Black Hawk. Pylon-mounted miniguns, mounted alongside 2.75 rockets, are also carried by the AH-6 ''Little Birds'' and rain lead in several scenes.

[[Image:Minigun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Dillon Aero M134 with flash suppressor - 7.62x51mm NATO. These are new model M134 Miniguns or just updated GE Miniguns which are usually seen with a different spade grip mount that were used during the Vietnam War.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GE M134 with flash suppressor on the MH-60 Blackhawk as it transports Rangers and Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AH-6 "Little Bird" supplies close air support with its twin M134 miniguns.]]
[[Image:BHD 006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An MH-60 door gunner provides cover fire with an M134.]]
[[Image:BHDM134.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the M134 as it fires on RPG gunners.]]

== DShK Heavy Machine Gun ==

Several vehicle mounted Russian [[DShK heavy machine gun]]s appear in several scenes of the film.

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== M72 LAW ==

An Army Ranger, Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso, can be seen taking out a "technical" with an [[M72 LAW#|M72A3]]. The M72A3 was a Post Vietnam improved model of the M72 Rocket, and the last variation used by the U.S. Army. Upgrade versions (up to M72A7) of the LAW are being fielded by the U.S. Navy and USMC as recently as 2007.

[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW 66mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M72.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso takes aims at a technical.]]
[[Image:BHD-M72-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A 66mm rocket fired from an [[M72 LAW|M72A3 LAW]] mid-flight.]]

==Remington 870==
While never used on screen, SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) can be seen with a customized [[Remington 870]] Express Magnum (standing in for an 870 Police Magnum) slung over his right shoulder. A pistol grip (minus the folding stock) is used in place of the full stock. This same setup is used on a short 870 by [[Charlie Sheen]] in the movie ''[[Navy SEALs]]''.

In a deleted scene, SFC Sanderson uses the shotgun to blow the hinges on a door inside the target building.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceFolder.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with folding stock (One seen in the movie lacked the folding stock).]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson with his Remington 870 Express Magnum slung over his back. Note the full length barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of Sanderson's 870. Also a good shot of an M733 barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Receiver reads "Express Magnum" on Sanderson's 870. In real life it would have been a sturdier Police Magnum, not the cheaper, "economy priced" Express Magnum, though both are visually identical. The police magnum is the same shotgun, but built from stronger materials and has slightly different finish.]]

== M67 Hand Grenade ==

While loading up for the assault, Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) picks up [[M67 hand grenade|M67 fragmentation hand grenades]]. SFC Sanderson is later seen throwing one into a window to take out a Somali who has him and the Deltas and Rangers pinned down.

[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|225px|M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M67 Hand Grenades]]

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Black Hawk Down

2010-07-22T15:32:56Z

ThePinko49: /* DShK Heavy Machine Gun */

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Black Hawk Down''':''
[[Image:Black hawk down ver1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''[[Black Hawk Down]]'' (2001)]]

== Colt Commando ==

The Delta operators mainly wield the M727 and M733 variants of the [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando]]. The M727 variant is identified by its A2 upper receiver and 14.5" barrel with the cutout for mounting an M203 grenade launcher; the M733 has the shorter 11.5" barrel. Staff Sergeant Daniel Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) is the first Delta member on screen, and also the first soldier we see carrying an [[M16 rifle series#Colt Carbine/Model 653/Model 733|M727]]. All Delta members carry M727s and M733s, fitted with various accessories such as Aimpoint scopes and surefire flashlights. Master Sergeant Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) can be seen carrying an M733 featuring a camouflage paint scheme and a sound suppressor, which is then used by Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) to pick off several more Somalis before running out of ammunition and being overwhelmed.

[[Image:Coltm727ima.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt Model 727 5.56x45mm]]

===Delta Customs===
The Delta Force operators arm themselves differently from the Rangers by using customized Colt Model 727 and 733 rifles as opposed to longer, heavier M16A2 rifles. Many are fitted with such accessories as Aimpoint red dot scopes and Surefire tactical lights (with the pressure switch taped to the handguard with 100mph or electrical tape). Some of the Colts have camouflage paint schemes, and some of them are fitted with 14.5" barrels with M203 cuts (M727).
[[Image:BHD-M733.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SSG Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) aims an M727 carbine at Somali militants raiding a Red Cross food distribution center while aboard a Blackhawk. Note the flashlight pressure switch taped to the handguard.]]
[[Image:BHD-M733-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M727 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) uses his M727 to shoot out of a Humvee window.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A wounded SSG Busch climbs out of his crashed Blackhawk and fires his M727 at the Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson fires his M727 during the "Mogadishu Mile".]]

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===Rangers===
While the Rangers are armed almost entirely with [[M16A2]] rifles, Captain Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) uses an M733 rifle, noted by the 11.5" barrel, with nothing modified or changed. SFC "Doc" Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) also uses an M733, presumably because as a medic, he would need a lighter, more versatile weapon to move quickly to wounded soldiers.
[[Image:Colt Model 733.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Model 733 with 11.5" Barrel (The Model 723 is the export model of the same weapon - used by forces of the UAE and US Delta Force) 5.56mm]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) with his M733 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele shows the Delta Operators you don't need a fancy scope to fire an M733. Iron sights.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Ranger medic SFC Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) with his M733 in hand.]]

===Delta Sniper===
Delta Force MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) uses an [[M16_rifle_series#Colt_Carbine.2FModel_653.2FModel_727.2FModel_733|M733]] carbine modified with a camouflage paint scheme, Aimpoint scope, tactical light, and a sound suppressor. Shughart gives this rifle to the wounded Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant, who uses it before it runs out of ammo.
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) hovers above the second crash site with his suppressed M733.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon fires his suppressed M733 in defense of the crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mike Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) with Gordon's M733.]]

===CAR-15===
Some of the Deltas Operators are seen using [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando CAR-15]] carbines with the original long type muzzle brake, which are also heavily customized. There is a high possibility they are built from several Commando types so a definite I.D. isn't certain unless the armorer can verify it.

[[Image:BHDXM177E2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with his CAR-15 rifle at the ready, right side.]]
[[Image:BHD 2006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with a CAR-15.]]
[[Image:BHDXM177E2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator fires on a Somali .50 gunner with his CAR-15.]]

==Colt M4 carbine==
Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) seems to use an [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|Colt M4 carbine]] with the same customizations and paint job as the Commando rifles when doing solo operations in Somalia, noted by its removable carry handle. He uses it to shoot a wild boar from a chopper, and is chastised by CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) for keeping the weapon's safety off in the barracks. One of the Deltas is also seen using an M4 carbine during the operation itself.

A bit of anachronism here, both the M4 and M4A1 entered service in 1994, a year after the events of this film (in 1993), so the M4 should technically not be in Hoot's hands. The probable reason was the fact that most of the earlier M16 Carbines are hard to come by, so they needed something to fill that gap.

[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4 carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHDM4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Who's hungry?" Hoot readies his M4 carbine to shoot a wild boar. Note flashlight pressure switch attached to the handguards with electric tape. Also note that Hoot racks the action twice; once when he boards the chopper, and another time when he readies to shoot the boar.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele points out to Hoot that, whether an undisciplined Delta Operator or not, his M4 carbine should be safeties-on in the barracks. Hoot replies, "This is my safety", and bends his index finger. Note the knobs on the carry handle used to remove it from the gun and custom pistol grip. Also note that this particular weapon is quite clearly a rubber prop version, which are normally used only for stunt work.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator breaches and clears with an M4 carbine in hand. Note the removable carry handle.]]

== M60 machine gun ==
Specialist Shawn Nelson ([[Ewen Bremner]]) can be seen carrying an [[M60 machine gun]] machine gun as his standard weapon. A mounted M60 is also seen and fired from at least one of the Humvees in the extraction convoy. Some of the Somalis can be seen using them as well

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[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M60.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-Blanks.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60, here clearly loaded with blanks.]]
[[Image:BHD-M60-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson fires his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson firing his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the humvees.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1-1-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his M60 at the Somalis.]]
===Special===
[[Image:DHD3Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta actor shows vehicle-mounted M60s.]]

== FN Minimi ==

Several Rangers can be seen carrying [[FN Minimi|FN Minimis]] throughout the film, standing in for the [[FN Minimi|M249-E1 SAW]]. It is also the weapon used by Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) to accidentally deafen Nelson when he fires it too close to his head. The Minimis are also fitted with circular 200-round cloth ammo bags instead of hard plastic drums.

[[Image:M249 FN MINIMI DA-SC-85-11586 c1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN Minimi 5.56x45mm with 200-round ammo drum]]
[[Image:BHD-M249-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) with an FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHD-M249.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) firing his Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Twombley with his FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the charging handle rocking in slow motion on the FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) with his FN Minimi, yelling to Yurek about how they almost killed him]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his FN Minimi during the "Mogadishu Mile"]]

== M16A2 ==

SSG Matt Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Rangers armed, like most of them, with an [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]].

[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SSG Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Ranger team, many armed with M16A2s]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann firing his M16A2 at Somali militia as the Rangers make their way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Mike Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) fires his M16A2 while making his way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann fires his M16A2 during the rescue of SSG Busch. The pilot on the left is CWO Keith Jones, who was the pilot who rescued the real Busch during the actual event. It is evident from this shot that the lower receiver is that of an M16A1, not the A2, thus these rifles were built up on A1 lowers.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) with his M16A2 as the Rangers and Delta hold off the Somalia forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) switches between his M14 and an M16A2 as the Delta snipers defend their position at the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Probably the only Ranger in the film to fire bursts from his M16A2. Rangers are usually trained not to fire in bursts unless "they have a damn good reason", as quoted by several Drill Sergeants.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD1Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor in Delta clothes shows M16A2 in the movie armory.]]

== M14 Rifle ==
The [[M14 Rifle#M14 Rifle|M14 rifle]] is seen being used by Delta Force Sergeant First Class Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]), most notably when he and MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) are covering the second crash site. His M14 sports a camouflage paint scheme and an M68 Aimpoint scope.
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M21.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14. This shot appears to have been reversed. Note how the bolt and the battery slot on the Aimpoint is on the left side, not the right. Also see how Shughart and Gordon (off-shot) are right-handed in the other shots except for this one.]]
[[Image:BHD-M21-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart covers the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14 in defense of the second crash site.]]

==M16A1==
[[M16#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1]] rifles are seen in the Somali arms dealer's shop and one militia member is seen loading up one. At one point, Rangers can be seen watching a portion of the film ''[[The Jerk]]'' where a madman is trying to shoot the protagonist using a scoped M16A1.

[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M16A1 rifles hang in the dealer's shop along with M16A2s, likely captured from American forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moments before his epileptic seizure, LT Beales ([[Ioan Gruffudd]]) is watching a scene from ''[[The Jerk]]'' where the Madman ([[M. Emmet Walsh]]) is seen firing a scoped M16A1.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militiaman picks up an M16A1 with the flash hider removed and with a strange smooth ten round magazine.]]

==CETME==
Spanish [[CETME]] rifles are seen among the weapons in the arms dealer's shop, many of which are taken by the militia to combat the U.S. forces. They are not [[Heckler & Koch G3]]s, most notably because they have a simple fixed sight instead of a rear sight spindle.
[[Image:cetme.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Spanish CETME rifle chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Militia members pick up CETME rifles in the dealer's shop.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CETME rifles hanging next to the dealer.]]

== Heckler & Koch G3A3 ==

The local militia arm themselves with, among many other weapons, actual [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch G3A3]] assault rifles.

[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|G3A3 7.62x51mm NATO with green synthetic furniture]]
[[Image:BHD-G3A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member firing a G3A3 at the first MH-60K crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member takes cover from a Ranger's .50 caliber barrage armed with a G3A3.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member fires his G3A3.]]

== PKM Light Machine Gun ==

A [[PK Machine Gun|PKM light machine gun]] is seen resting on a table in the Somali arms dealer's shop.

[[Image:PKM-mg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PKM light machine gun 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PKM sits on the arms dealer's table]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of the PKM muzzle brake]]

==SVD Dragunov==
When Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) is in the Somali town, he passes the arms dealer, who has an [[SVD Dragunov]] on display.
[[Image:SVD Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SVD Dragunov - 7.62x54R.]]
[[Image:Bhd svd-edited.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An SVD Dragunov is seen behind Hoot. (Interesting anachronism here: the shades, Oakley Juliets, worn by actor Eric Bana did not exist during the events of this film.)]]

== RPK ==
One of the Somalis fires on Mike Durant's Black Hawk armed with an [[RPK light machine gun]]. Its blonde furniture indicates it could be a foreign copy. The machining divots in the receiver could help indicate its origins as well.
(the milled receiver, blonde wood, and the fact that the selector is in semi seem to suggest it is an Arsenal Bulgarian RPK, probably a US-made semi-auto variant)
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPK light machine gun 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDRPK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his RPK at the downed Black Hawk.]]

== RPG-7 ==

The Russian manufactured [[RPG-7]] features prominently in the film as the weapon which brings down a pair of UH-60 Blackhawks. In one scene inspired by an actual event, a projectile from an RPG-7 strikes PVT. Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]), the driver of one of the M-35 deuce and a half trucks in Lieutenant Colonel Danny McKnight ([[Tom Sizemore]])'s convoy and fails to detonate, impaling the luckless soldier instead.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 40mm]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RPG-7s being handed out by the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD-RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An antitank grenade being fired at a Black Hawk. It is obviously CGI, since there is no backblast.]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A milita member fires the RPG that takes down Super Six One, causing the first Blackhawk crash of the operation.]]
[[Image:BHDRPGhead.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An undetonated RPG warhead impales the deuce and a half driver, PFC Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]).]]

==Norinco Type 69==
Along with [[RPG-7]]s, Chinese [[RPG-7#Type 69|Norinco Type 69]] launchers are used by the militia.
[[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco Type 69 - 70mm.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69. Note how there is only one pistol grip and how he is holding the carry handle.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69.]]

== Norinco Type 56 ==
A full stock [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56]] is used by a Somali to whack Mike Durant in the head. It has a slanted AKM syle muzzle brake added on.
[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 with pig sticker type bayonet 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDType56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali smacks Mike Durant across the face with a Norinco Type 56.]]

== Norinco Type 56-1 ==

Nearly all of the Somali gunmen are armed with the [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56-1]] assault rifle, which is a Chinese derivative of the [[AK-47|AKS-47]]/[[AK-47#AKMS|AKMS]]. They are identified by the hooded front sights, which only Chinese Kalashnikov rifles have. At one point in the film, one of the soldiers can be seen removing the magazine from a discarded Type 56-1 and stuffing it in an empty pouch. Whether this was done to take back a souvenir or for some other reason is not known.

[[Image:Type56S.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A "Skinny" dies firing his Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Somali militiamen running with Type 56-1 rifles.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A round from this Norinco Type 56-1 causes the first KIA of the operation, SGT Dominic Pilla.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali kills SGT Joyce ([[Chris Beetem]]) with a shot to his back with a Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the hooded front sight on this Somali's 56-1.]]

== AKS-74U ==

Mo'alim ([[Razaaq Adoti]]), the Somali militia leader, carries an [[AKS-74U]] as his weapon of choice, first seen picking it up and inspecting it before heading into battle, then firing a burst into the air to break up the mob attacking one of the surviving Blackhawk pilots before announcing that he was to be taken alive as a prisoner.

[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK74.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim picks up and inspects an AKS-74U before heading into battle.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A clearer shot of the AKS-74U.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim with his AKS-74U.]]

== SPG-9 Recoilless Rifle ==

At one point in the film, Aidid's militia begin to bombard the building the majority of the Rangers and Deltas have taken cover in with mortars and an [[SPG-9 recoilless rifle]]. A group of Deltas led by Hoot soon kill the gunners and then turn the weapon against the militia, killing several with one shot.
[[Image:Spg-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SPG-9 recoiless rifle - 73mm]]
[[Image:BHD 010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aidid's militia prepare to fire the SPG-9 Recoilless on the Rangers and Deltas who are holed-up at the first crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD 012.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After eliminating the recoilless operators, Hoot and another Delta operator prepare to fire the SPG-9 recoilless rifle on the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD 009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) fires the recoilless rifle.]]

== AN/M14 Incendiary Grenade ==

There are several appearances in the film of [[AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]s; used by Deltas to destroy sensitive equipment at both Blackhawk crash sites, as well as to destroy the SPG-9 recoilless rifle mentioned above once Hoot and his team are done with it. Another one can be seen sitting on a table when Hoot is loading up.

[[Image:AN-M14 Incendiary Grenade.jpg|thumb|none|150px|AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AN/M14 incendiary grenade (far left) on a table]]

==Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher==
Many of the Rangers' [[M16 rifle series|M16A2s]] are fitted with [[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm Flare Launchers]], standing in for the [[M203 grenade launcher]]. Most notably seen in the hands of SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) of CPT Steele's ([[Jason Isaacs]]) unit. See flare launcher page for a guide on telling them apart.

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[[Image:Coltflare.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher]] 37mm.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger behind CPT Steele is seen armed with an M16A2/CM203. Note the squared trigger guard and cocking bolt on the right side.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele gives the dying SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) his M16A2/CM203, ordering him to give anyone two in the chest and one in the head if they enter the door.]]

== M203 Grenade Launcher ==

While the [[Colt Flare Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm launchers]] are fitted on most of the Ranger's [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]] rifles, a couple of actual [[M203 grenade launcher]]s attached to [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2s]] are seen, the most notable of which is Specialist John Grimes ([[Ewan McGregor]]) who assists Delta in taking out a ''technical'' that has them pinned down, missing the first shot before destroying the vehicle with a High-Explosive Dual-Purpose (HEDP) grenade from his M203.

[[Image:M16A2 M203.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M203 grenade launcher 40mm mounted on M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes with his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger in Eversmann's unit armed with an M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-5.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M203 like a proper desk clerk, eyes closed.]]
[[Image:BlackHawk 6006.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|It seems that [[Ewan McGregor]] has never fired an M203, as his depiction of recoil is horrible.]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes ejects a spent 40mm grenade.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here the trigger guard appears to have been removed]]

== M1911A1 ==
We see the [[M1911A1]] pistol in the hands of the Delta operators as their sidearm of choice. As the two Delta snipers attempt to secure the second crash site they are forced to draw their M1911A1 pistols as the overwhelming Somali forces close in on them. Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) can be seen at the firing range with an M1911A1 near the beginning of the film.

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[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) shows the Rangers what a .45 can do. (That is, better firepower at the cost of running out of ammunition twice as quickly.)]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MSG Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) fires his M1911A1 at the Somalis. At one point, his M1911A1 jams and the muzzle flashes are all CGI.]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) fires his M1911A1 while defending the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD-1911-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Despite being wounded, SFC Shughart continues to fire his M1911A1.]]
[[Image:BHD 015.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M1911A1 during the "Mogadishu Mile". It seems unlikely a well trained operator would wear his flight gloves like shown.]]
[[Image:Blackhawk11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of SGT Sanderson's M1911A1.]]

== Tokarev TT-33 ==

A Somali militiaman uses a [[Tokarev TT-33]] to kill SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) at the second crash site.
[[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali unloads his TT-33 into SFC Shughart]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the TT-33]]

== Beretta 92FS ==

The [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92FS]] pistol is seen a few times in the film in the hands of Rangers, and members of Lieutenant Colonel McKnight's convoy. Mainly it is seen in the hands of Maddox in the Humvee. McKnight himself carries his 92FS sidearm around as a proper means to defend himself.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:BHD-M9-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Humvee driver, Maddox ([[Michael Roof]]) fires his Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:BHDM9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McKnight is seen armed with his 92FS when walking away from a Ranger, blown in half by an RPG.]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5A3 ==

Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]), the MH-60 Black Hawk pilot of Super Six-Four, is armed with a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] with a slim handgrip and uses it to defend himself after he's shot down. The MP5 was briefly issued to helicopter crews as a personal defense weapon (PDW), but was discontinued in this role when it was determined its 9x19mm ammo lacked sufficient stopping power against armor-wearing or drug-crazed enemies, as was the case in Somalia. The guns is also briefly used by SFC Randy Shughart before being killed by the overwhelming militia.
In the book and real life, the weapons were actually [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|MP5K]]s. They were referred to as "Skinny Popper, a reference to the men's nickname for the Somalis.

[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm with slim handguard]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While trapped in his pilot seat, CWO3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) prepares to defend himself with his H&K MP5A3.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant fires his Heckler & Koch MP5A3 at the approaching Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHD 018.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant continues firing his H&K MP5A3 as the Delta snipers extract him from his downed Black Hawk.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) is firing the MP5A3 as he is shot.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD2Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor aims Durant's MP5 in movie armory. Note the other weapons behind him.]]

== Browning M2HB ==
The [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] heavy machine gun is fielded by the US Army on their HMMWVs, the U.N. forces on their APCs, and the Somali militia on their technicals in the film. The opening shots of the film feature Somali militiamen slaughtering a gathered crowd at a food distribution center with the powerful fifty-cal.

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[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG in vehicle mounting]]
[[Image:BHD 022.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The opening shots of Black Hawk Down. Aidid's gunmen open fire on the crowd at the food distribution center with the Browning M2.]]
[[Image:BHD 025.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An Army Humvee with a Browning M2HB mounted on the roof, actually a rubber prop as shown when the barrel bounces when the Humvee goes over some bumps.]]
[[Image:BHD 001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Dominic Pilla ([[Danny Hoch]]) fires the M2HB from his Humvee as they evac an injured Ranger back to base.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) clearing the roof top of "skinnies" with an M2HB.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of Hoot firing the M2HB (Note that this was a movie blooper, since Hoot was actually wearing Nomex gloves.)]]
[[Image:BHDM2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mean-faced Somali awaits to fire on the Rangers with the M2HB.]]

== GE M134 Minigun ==

During the slaughter of the crowd, the U.S. forces hovering in the MH-60 aren't cleared to fire the [[GE M134 Minigun|Dillon Aero M134 minigun]]s mounted on their Black Hawk. Pylon-mounted miniguns, mounted alongside 2.75 rockets, are also carried by the AH-6 ''Little Birds'' and rain lead in several scenes.

[[Image:Minigun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Dillon Aero M134 with flash suppressor - 7.62x51mm NATO. These are new model M134 Miniguns or just updated GE Miniguns which are usually seen with a different spade grip mount that were used during the Vietnam War.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GE M134 with flash suppressor on the MH-60 Blackhawk as it transports Rangers and Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AH-6 "Little Bird" supplies close air support with its twin M134 miniguns.]]
[[Image:BHD 006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An MH-60 door gunner provides cover fire with an M134.]]
[[Image:BHDM134.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the M134 as it fires on RPG gunners.]]

== DShK Heavy Machine Gun ==

Several vehicle mounted Russian [[DShK heavy machine gun]]s appear in several scenes of the film.

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[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Russian DShK 12.7x109mm]]
[[Image:BHD-DSHK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Somali militia leader on a DShK.]]
[[Image:BHD-DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A vehicle mounted DShK.]]

== M72 LAW ==

An Army Ranger, Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso, can be seen taking out a "technical" with an [[M72 LAW#|M72A3]]. The M72A3 was a Post Vietnam improved model of the M72 Rocket, and the last variation used by the U.S. Army. Upgrade versions (up to M72A7) of the LAW are being fielded by the U.S. Navy and USMC as recently as 2007.

[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW 66mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M72.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso takes aims at a technical.]]
[[Image:BHD-M72-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A 66mm rocket fired from an [[M72 LAW|M72A3 LAW]] mid-flight.]]

==Remington 870==
While never used on screen, SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) can be seen with a customized [[Remington 870]] Express Magnum (standing in for an 870 Police Magnum) slung over his right shoulder. A pistol grip (minus the folding stock) is used in place of the full stock. This same setup is used on a short 870 by [[Charlie Sheen]] in the movie ''[[Navy SEALs]]''.

In a deleted scene, SFC Sanderson uses the shotgun to blow the hinges on a door inside the target building.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceFolder.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with folding stock (One seen in the movie lacked the folding stock).]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson with his Remington 870 Express Magnum slung over his back. Note the full length barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of Sanderson's 870. Also a good shot of an M733 barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Receiver reads "Express Magnum" on Sanderson's 870. In real life it would have been a sturdier Police Magnum, not the cheaper, "economy priced" Express Magnum, though both are visually identical. The police magnum is the same shotgun, but built from stronger materials and has slightly different finish.]]

== M67 Hand Grenade ==

While loading up for the assault, Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) picks up [[M67 hand grenade|M67 fragmentation hand grenades]]. SFC Sanderson is later seen throwing one into a window to take out a Somali who has him and the Deltas and Rangers pinned down.

[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|225px|M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M67 Hand Grenades]]

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Black Hawk Down

2010-07-22T15:30:15Z

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'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Black Hawk Down''':''
[[Image:Black hawk down ver1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''[[Black Hawk Down]]'' (2001)]]

== Colt Commando ==

The Delta operators mainly wield the M727 and M733 variants of the [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando]]. The M727 variant is identified by its A2 upper receiver and 14.5" barrel with the cutout for mounting an M203 grenade launcher; the M733 has the shorter 11.5" barrel. Staff Sergeant Daniel Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) is the first Delta member on screen, and also the first soldier we see carrying an [[M16 rifle series#Colt Carbine/Model 653/Model 733|M727]]. All Delta members carry M727s and M733s, fitted with various accessories such as Aimpoint scopes and surefire flashlights. Master Sergeant Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) can be seen carrying an M733 featuring a camouflage paint scheme and a sound suppressor, which is then used by Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) to pick off several more Somalis before running out of ammunition and being overwhelmed.

[[Image:Coltm727ima.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt Model 727 5.56x45mm]]

===Delta Customs===
The Delta Force operators arm themselves differently from the Rangers by using customized Colt Model 727 and 733 rifles as opposed to longer, heavier M16A2 rifles. Many are fitted with such accessories as Aimpoint red dot scopes and Surefire tactical lights (with the pressure switch taped to the handguard with 100mph or electrical tape). Some of the Colts have camouflage paint schemes, and some of them are fitted with 14.5" barrels with M203 cuts (M727).
[[Image:BHD-M733.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SSG Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) aims an M727 carbine at Somali militants raiding a Red Cross food distribution center while aboard a Blackhawk. Note the flashlight pressure switch taped to the handguard.]]
[[Image:BHD-M733-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M727 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) uses his M727 to shoot out of a Humvee window.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A wounded SSG Busch climbs out of his crashed Blackhawk and fires his M727 at the Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson fires his M727 during the "Mogadishu Mile".]]

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===Rangers===
While the Rangers are armed almost entirely with [[M16A2]] rifles, Captain Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) uses an M733 rifle, noted by the 11.5" barrel, with nothing modified or changed. SFC "Doc" Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) also uses an M733, presumably because as a medic, he would need a lighter, more versatile weapon to move quickly to wounded soldiers.
[[Image:Colt Model 733.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Model 733 with 11.5" Barrel (The Model 723 is the export model of the same weapon - used by forces of the UAE and US Delta Force) 5.56mm]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) with his M733 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele shows the Delta Operators you don't need a fancy scope to fire an M733. Iron sights.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Ranger medic SFC Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) with his M733 in hand.]]

===Delta Sniper===
Delta Force MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) uses an [[M16_rifle_series#Colt_Carbine.2FModel_653.2FModel_727.2FModel_733|M733]] carbine modified with a camouflage paint scheme, Aimpoint scope, tactical light, and a sound suppressor. Shughart gives this rifle to the wounded Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant, who uses it before it runs out of ammo.
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) hovers above the second crash site with his suppressed M733.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon fires his suppressed M733 in defense of the crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mike Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) with Gordon's M733.]]

===CAR-15===
Some of the Deltas Operators are seen using [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando CAR-15]] carbines with the original long type muzzle brake, which are also heavily customized. There is a high possibility they are built from several Commando types so a definite I.D. isn't certain unless the armorer can verify it.

[[Image:BHDXM177E2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with his CAR-15 rifle at the ready, right side.]]
[[Image:BHD 2006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with a CAR-15.]]
[[Image:BHDXM177E2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator fires on a Somali .50 gunner with his CAR-15.]]

==Colt M4 carbine==
Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) seems to use an [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|Colt M4 carbine]] with the same customizations and paint job as the Commando rifles when doing solo operations in Somalia, noted by its removable carry handle. He uses it to shoot a wild boar from a chopper, and is chastised by CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) for keeping the weapon's safety off in the barracks. One of the Deltas is also seen using an M4 carbine during the operation itself.

A bit of anachronism here, both the M4 and M4A1 entered service in 1994, a year after the events of this film (in 1993), so the M4 should technically not be in Hoot's hands. The probable reason was the fact that most of the earlier M16 Carbines are hard to come by, so they needed something to fill that gap.

[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4 carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHDM4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Who's hungry?" Hoot readies his M4 carbine to shoot a wild boar. Note flashlight pressure switch attached to the handguards with electric tape. Also note that Hoot racks the action twice; once when he boards the chopper, and another time when he readies to shoot the boar.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele points out to Hoot that, whether an undisciplined Delta Operator or not, his M4 carbine should be safeties-on in the barracks. Hoot replies, "This is my safety", and bends his index finger. Note the knobs on the carry handle used to remove it from the gun and custom pistol grip. Also note that this particular weapon is quite clearly a rubber prop version, which are normally used only for stunt work.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator breaches and clears with an M4 carbine in hand. Note the removable carry handle.]]

== M60 machine gun ==
Specialist Shawn Nelson ([[Ewen Bremner]]) can be seen carrying an [[M60 machine gun]] machine gun as his standard weapon. A mounted M60 is also seen and fired from at least one of the Humvees in the extraction convoy. Some of the Somalis can be seen using them as well

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[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M60.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-Blanks.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60, here clearly loaded with blanks.]]
[[Image:BHD-M60-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson fires his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson firing his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the humvees.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1-1-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his M60 at the Somalis.]]
===Special===
[[Image:DHD3Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta actor shows vehicle-mounted M60s.]]

== FN Minimi ==

Several Rangers can be seen carrying [[FN Minimi|FN Minimis]] throughout the film, standing in for the [[FN Minimi|M249-E1 SAW]]. It is also the weapon used by Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) to accidentally deafen Nelson when he fires it too close to his head. The Minimis are also fitted with circular 200-round cloth ammo bags instead of hard plastic drums.

[[Image:M249 FN MINIMI DA-SC-85-11586 c1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN Minimi 5.56x45mm with 200-round ammo drum]]
[[Image:BHD-M249-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) with an FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHD-M249.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) firing his Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Twombley with his FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the charging handle rocking in slow motion on the FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) with his FN Minimi, yelling to Yurek about how they almost killed him]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his FN Minimi during the "Mogadishu Mile"]]

== M16A2 ==

SSG Matt Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Rangers armed, like most of them, with an [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]].

[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SSG Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Ranger team, many armed with M16A2s]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann firing his M16A2 at Somali militia as the Rangers make their way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Mike Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) fires his M16A2 while making his way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann fires his M16A2 during the rescue of SSG Busch. The pilot on the left is CWO Keith Jones, who was the pilot who rescued the real Busch during the actual event. It is evident from this shot that the lower receiver is that of an M16A1, not the A2, thus these rifles were built up on A1 lowers.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) with his M16A2 as the Rangers and Delta hold off the Somalia forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) switches between his M14 and an M16A2 as the Delta snipers defend their position at the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Probably the only Ranger in the film to fire bursts from his M16A2. Rangers are usually trained not to fire in bursts unless "they have a damn good reason", as quoted by several Drill Sergeants.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD1Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor in Delta clothes shows M16A2 in the movie armory.]]

== M14 Rifle ==
The [[M14 Rifle#M14 Rifle|M14 rifle]] is seen being used by Delta Force Sergeant First Class Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]), most notably when he and MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) are covering the second crash site. His M14 sports a camouflage paint scheme and an M68 Aimpoint scope.
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M21.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14. This shot appears to have been reversed. Note how the bolt and the battery slot on the Aimpoint is on the left side, not the right. Also see how Shughart and Gordon (off-shot) are right-handed in the other shots except for this one.]]
[[Image:BHD-M21-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart covers the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14 in defense of the second crash site.]]

==M16A1==
[[M16#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1]] rifles are seen in the Somali arms dealer's shop and one militia member is seen loading up one. At one point, Rangers can be seen watching a portion of the film ''[[The Jerk]]'' where a madman is trying to shoot the protagonist using a scoped M16A1.

[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M16A1 rifles hang in the dealer's shop along with M16A2s, likely captured from American forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moments before his epileptic seizure, LT Beales ([[Ioan Gruffudd]]) is watching a scene from ''[[The Jerk]]'' where the Madman ([[M. Emmet Walsh]]) is seen firing a scoped M16A1.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militiaman picks up an M16A1 with the flash hider removed and with a strange smooth ten round magazine.]]

==CETME==
Spanish [[CETME]] rifles are seen among the weapons in the arms dealer's shop, many of which are taken by the militia to combat the U.S. forces. They are not [[Heckler & Koch G3]]s, most notably because they have a simple fixed sight instead of a rear sight spindle.
[[Image:cetme.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Spanish CETME rifle chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Militia members pick up CETME rifles in the dealer's shop.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CETME rifles hanging next to the dealer.]]

== Heckler & Koch G3A3 ==

The local militia arm themselves with, among many other weapons, actual [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch G3A3]] assault rifles.

[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|G3A3 7.62x51mm NATO with green synthetic furniture]]
[[Image:BHD-G3A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member firing a G3A3 at the first MH-60K crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member takes cover from a Ranger's .50 caliber barrage armed with a G3A3.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member fires his G3A3.]]

== PKM Light Machine Gun ==

A [[PK Machine Gun|PKM light machine gun]] is seen resting on a table in the Somali arms dealer's shop.

[[Image:PKM-mg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PKM light machine gun 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PKM sits on the arms dealer's table]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of the PKM muzzle brake]]

==SVD Dragunov==
When Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) is in the Somali town, he passes the arms dealer, who has an [[SVD Dragunov]] on display.
[[Image:SVD Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SVD Dragunov - 7.62x54R.]]
[[Image:Bhd svd-edited.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An SVD Dragunov is seen behind Hoot. (Interesting anachronism here: the shades, Oakley Juliets, worn by actor Eric Bana did not exist during the events of this film.)]]

== RPK ==
One of the Somalis fires on Mike Durant's Black Hawk armed with an [[RPK light machine gun]]. Its blonde furniture indicates it could be a foreign copy. The machining divots in the receiver could help indicate its origins as well.
(the milled receiver, blonde wood, and the fact that the selector is in semi seem to suggest it is an Arsenal Bulgarian RPK, probably a US-made semi-auto variant)
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPK light machine gun 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDRPK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his RPK at the downed Black Hawk.]]

== RPG-7 ==

The Russian manufactured [[RPG-7]] features prominently in the film as the weapon which brings down a pair of UH-60 Blackhawks. In one scene inspired by an actual event, a projectile from an RPG-7 strikes PVT. Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]), the driver of one of the M-35 deuce and a half trucks in Lieutenant Colonel Danny McKnight ([[Tom Sizemore]])'s convoy and fails to detonate, impaling the luckless soldier instead.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 40mm]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RPG-7s being handed out by the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD-RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An antitank grenade being fired at a Black Hawk. It is obviously CGI, since there is no backblast.]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A milita member fires the RPG that takes down Super Six One, causing the first Blackhawk crash of the operation.]]
[[Image:BHDRPGhead.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An undetonated RPG warhead impales the deuce and a half driver, PFC Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]).]]

==Norinco Type 69==
Along with [[RPG-7]]s, Chinese [[RPG-7#Type 69|Norinco Type 69]] launchers are used by the militia.
[[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco Type 69 - 70mm.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69. Note how there is only one pistol grip and how he is holding the carry handle.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69.]]

== Norinco Type 56 ==
A full stock [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56]] is used by a Somali to whack Mike Durant in the head. It has a slanted AKM syle muzzle brake added on.
[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 with pig sticker type bayonet 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDType56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali smacks Mike Durant across the face with a Norinco Type 56.]]

== Norinco Type 56-1 ==

Nearly all of the Somali gunmen are armed with the [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56-1]] assault rifle, which is a Chinese derivative of the [[AK-47|AKS-47]]/[[AK-47#AKMS|AKMS]]. They are identified by the hooded front sights, which only Chinese Kalashnikov rifles have. At one point in the film, one of the soldiers can be seen removing the magazine from a discarded Type 56-1 and stuffing it in an empty pouch. Whether this was done to take back a souvenir or for some other reason is not known.

[[Image:Type56S.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A "Skinny" dies firing his Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Somali militiamen running with Type 56-1 rifles.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A round from this Norinco Type 56-1 causes the first KIA of the operation, SGT Dominic Pilla.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali kills SGT Joyce ([[Chris Beetem]]) with a shot to his back with a Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the hooded front sight on this Somali's 56-1.]]

== AKS-74U ==

Mo'alim ([[Razaaq Adoti]]), the Somali militia leader, carries an [[AKS-74U]] as his weapon of choice, first seen picking it up and inspecting it before heading into battle, then firing a burst into the air to break up the mob attacking one of the surviving Blackhawk pilots before announcing that he was to be taken alive as a prisoner.

[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK74.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim picks up and inspects an AKS-74U before heading into battle.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A clearer shot of the AKS-74U.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim with his AKS-74U.]]

== SPG-9 Recoilless Rifle ==

At one point in the film, Aidid's militia begin to bombard the building the majority of the Rangers and Deltas have taken cover in with mortars and an [[SPG-9 recoilless rifle]]. A group of Deltas led by Hoot soon kill the gunners and then turn the weapon against the militia, killing several with one shot.
[[Image:Spg-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SPG-9 recoiless rifle - 73mm]]
[[Image:BHD 010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aidid's militia prepare to fire the SPG-9 Recoilless on the Rangers and Deltas who are holed-up at the first crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD 012.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After eliminating the recoilless operators, Hoot and another Delta operator prepare to fire the SPG-9 recoilless rifle on the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD 009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) fires the recoilless rifle.]]

== AN/M14 Incendiary Grenade ==

There are several appearances in the film of [[AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]s; used by Deltas to destroy sensitive equipment at both Blackhawk crash sites, as well as to destroy the SPG-9 recoilless rifle mentioned above once Hoot and his team are done with it. Another one can be seen sitting on a table when Hoot is loading up.

[[Image:AN-M14 Incendiary Grenade.jpg|thumb|none|150px|AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AN/M14 incendiary grenade (far left) on a table]]

==Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher==
Many of the Rangers' [[M16 rifle series|M16A2s]] are fitted with [[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm Flare Launchers]], standing in for the [[M203 grenade launcher]]. Most notably seen in the hands of SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) of CPT Steele's ([[Jason Isaacs]]) unit. See flare launcher page for a guide on telling them apart.

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[[Image:Coltflare.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher]] 37mm.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger behind CPT Steele is seen armed with an M16A2/CM203. Note the squared trigger guard and cocking bolt on the right side.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele gives the dying SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) his M16A2/CM203, ordering him to give anyone two in the chest and one in the head if they enter the door.]]

== M203 Grenade Launcher ==

While the [[Colt Flare Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm launchers]] are fitted on most of the Ranger's [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]] rifles, a couple of actual [[M203 grenade launcher]]s attached to [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2s]] are seen, the most notable of which is Specialist John Grimes ([[Ewan McGregor]]) who assists Delta in taking out a ''technical'' that has them pinned down, missing the first shot before destroying the vehicle with a High-Explosive Dual-Purpose (HEDP) grenade from his M203.

[[Image:M16A2 M203.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M203 grenade launcher 40mm mounted on M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes with his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger in Eversmann's unit armed with an M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-5.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M203 like a proper desk clerk, eyes closed.]]
[[Image:BlackHawk 6006.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|It seems that [[Ewan McGregor]] has never fired an M203, as his depiction of recoil is horrible.]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes ejects a spent 40mm grenade.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here the trigger guard appears to have been removed]]

== M1911A1 ==
We see the [[M1911A1]] pistol in the hands of the Delta operators as their sidearm of choice. As the two Delta snipers attempt to secure the second crash site they are forced to draw their M1911A1 pistols as the overwhelming Somali forces close in on them. Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) can be seen at the firing range with an M1911A1 near the beginning of the film.

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[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) shows the Rangers what a .45 can do. (That is, better firepower at the cost of running out of ammunition twice as quickly.)]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MSG Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) fires his M1911A1 at the Somalis. At one point, his M1911A1 jams and the muzzle flashes are all CGI.]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) fires his M1911A1 while defending the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD-1911-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Despite being wounded, SFC Shughart continues to fire his M1911A1.]]
[[Image:BHD 015.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M1911A1 during the "Mogadishu Mile". It seems unlikely a well trained operator would wear his flight gloves like shown.]]
[[Image:Blackhawk11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of SGT Sanderson's M1911A1.]]

== Tokarev TT-33 ==

A Somali militiaman uses a [[Tokarev TT-33]] to kill SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) at the second crash site.
[[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali unloads his TT-33 into SFC Shughart]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the TT-33]]

== Beretta 92FS ==

The [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92FS]] pistol is seen a few times in the film in the hands of Rangers, and members of Lieutenant Colonel McKnight's convoy. Mainly it is seen in the hands of Maddox in the Humvee. McKnight himself carries his 92FS sidearm around as a proper means to defend himself.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:BHD-M9-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Humvee driver, Maddox ([[Michael Roof]]) fires his Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:BHDM9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McKnight is seen armed with his 92FS when walking away from a Ranger, blown in half by an RPG.]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5A3 ==

Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]), the MH-60 Black Hawk pilot of Super Six-Four, is armed with a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] with a slim handgrip and uses it to defend himself after he's shot down. The MP5 was briefly issued to helicopter crews as a personal defense weapon (PDW), but was discontinued in this role when it was determined its 9x19mm ammo lacked sufficient stopping power against armor-wearing or drug-crazed enemies, as was the case in Somalia. The guns is also briefly used by SFC Randy Shughart before being killed by the overwhelming militia.
In the book and real life, the weapons were actually [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|MP5K]]s. They were referred to as "Skinny Popper, a reference to the men's nickname for the Somalis.

[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm with slim handguard]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While trapped in his pilot seat, CWO3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) prepares to defend himself with his H&K MP5A3.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant fires his Heckler & Koch MP5A3 at the approaching Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHD 018.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant continues firing his H&K MP5A3 as the Delta snipers extract him from his downed Black Hawk.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) is firing the MP5A3 as he is shot.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD2Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor aims Durant's MP5 in movie armory. Note the other weapons behind him.]]

== Browning M2HB ==
The [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] heavy machine gun is fielded by the US Army on their HMMWVs, the U.N. forces on their APCs, and the Somali militia on their technicals in the film. The opening shots of the film feature Somali militiamen slaughtering a gathered crowd at a food distribution center with the powerful fifty-cal.

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[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG in vehicle mounting]]
[[Image:BHD 022.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The opening shots of Black Hawk Down. Aidid's gunmen open fire on the crowd at the food distribution center with the Browning M2.]]
[[Image:BHD 025.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An Army Humvee with a Browning M2HB mounted on the roof, actually a rubber prop as shown when the barrel bounces when the Humvee goes over some bumps.]]
[[Image:BHD 001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Dominic Pilla ([[Danny Hoch]]) fires the M2HB from his Humvee as they evac an injured Ranger back to base.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) clearing the roof top of "skinnies" with an M2HB.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of Hoot firing the M2HB (Note that this was a movie blooper, since Hoot was actually wearing Nomex gloves.)]]
[[Image:BHDM2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mean-faced Somali awaits to fire on the Rangers with the M2HB.]]

== GE M134 Minigun ==

During the slaughter of the crowd, the U.S. forces hovering in the MH-60 aren't cleared to fire the [[GE M134 Minigun|Dillon Aero M134 minigun]]s mounted on their Black Hawk. Pylon-mounted miniguns, mounted alongside 2.75 rockets, are also carried by the AH-6 ''Little Birds'' and rain lead in several scenes.

[[Image:Minigun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Dillon Aero M134 with flash suppressor - 7.62x51mm NATO. These are new model M134 Miniguns or just updated GE Miniguns which are usually seen with a different spade grip mount that were used during the Vietnam War.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GE M134 with flash suppressor on the MH-60 Blackhawk as it transports Rangers and Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AH-6 "Little Bird" supplies close air support with its twin M134 miniguns.]]
[[Image:BHD 006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An MH-60 door gunner provides cover fire with an M134.]]
[[Image:BHDM134.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the M134 as it fires on RPG gunners.]]

== DShK Heavy Machine Gun ==

Several vehicle mounted Russian [[DShK heavy machine gun]]s appear in several scenes of the film.

[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Russian DShK 12.7x109mm]]
[[Image:BHD-DSHK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Somali militia leader on a DShK.]]
[[Image:BHD-DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A vehicle mounted DShK.]]

== M72 LAW ==

An Army Ranger, Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso, can be seen taking out a "technical" with an [[M72 LAW#|M72A3]]. The M72A3 was a Post Vietnam improved model of the M72 Rocket, and the last variation used by the U.S. Army. Upgrade versions (up to M72A7) of the LAW are being fielded by the U.S. Navy and USMC as recently as 2007.

[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW 66mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M72.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso takes aims at a technical.]]
[[Image:BHD-M72-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A 66mm rocket fired from an [[M72 LAW|M72A3 LAW]] mid-flight.]]

==Remington 870==
While never used on screen, SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) can be seen with a customized [[Remington 870]] Express Magnum (standing in for an 870 Police Magnum) slung over his right shoulder. A pistol grip (minus the folding stock) is used in place of the full stock. This same setup is used on a short 870 by [[Charlie Sheen]] in the movie ''[[Navy SEALs]]''.

In a deleted scene, SFC Sanderson uses the shotgun to blow the hinges on a door inside the target building.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceFolder.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with folding stock (One seen in the movie lacked the folding stock).]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson with his Remington 870 Express Magnum slung over his back. Note the full length barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of Sanderson's 870. Also a good shot of an M733 barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Receiver reads "Express Magnum" on Sanderson's 870. In real life it would have been a sturdier Police Magnum, not the cheaper, "economy priced" Express Magnum, though both are visually identical. The police magnum is the same shotgun, but built from stronger materials and has slightly different finish.]]

== M67 Hand Grenade ==

While loading up for the assault, Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) picks up [[M67 hand grenade|M67 fragmentation hand grenades]]. SFC Sanderson is later seen throwing one into a window to take out a Somali who has him and the Deltas and Rangers pinned down.

[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|225px|M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M67 Hand Grenades]]

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Black Hawk Down

2010-07-22T15:29:42Z

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'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Black Hawk Down''':''
[[Image:Black hawk down ver1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''[[Black Hawk Down]]'' (2001)]]

== Colt Commando ==

The Delta operators mainly wield the M727 and M733 variants of the [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando]]. The M727 variant is identified by its A2 upper receiver and 14.5" barrel with the cutout for mounting an M203 grenade launcher; the M733 has the shorter 11.5" barrel. Staff Sergeant Daniel Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) is the first Delta member on screen, and also the first soldier we see carrying an [[M16 rifle series#Colt Carbine/Model 653/Model 733|M727]]. All Delta members carry M727s and M733s, fitted with various accessories such as Aimpoint scopes and surefire flashlights. Master Sergeant Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) can be seen carrying an M733 featuring a camouflage paint scheme and a sound suppressor, which is then used by Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) to pick off several more Somalis before running out of ammunition and being overwhelmed.

[[Image:Coltm727ima.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt Model 727 5.56x45mm]]

===Delta Customs===
The Delta Force operators arm themselves differently from the Rangers by using customized Colt Model 727 and 733 rifles as opposed to longer, heavier M16A2 rifles. Many are fitted with such accessories as Aimpoint red dot scopes and Surefire tactical lights (with the pressure switch taped to the handguard with 100mph or electrical tape). Some of the Colts have camouflage paint schemes, and some of them are fitted with 14.5" barrels with M203 cuts (M727).
[[Image:BHD-M733.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SSG Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) aims an M727 carbine at Somali militants raiding a Red Cross food distribution center while aboard a Blackhawk. Note the flashlight pressure switch taped to the handguard.]]
[[Image:BHD-M733-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M727 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) uses his M727 to shoot out of a Humvee window.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A wounded SSG Busch climbs out of his crashed Blackhawk and fires his M727 at the Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson fires his M727 during the "Mogadishu Mile".]]

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===Rangers===
While the Rangers are armed almost entirely with [[M16A2]] rifles, Captain Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) uses an M733 rifle, noted by the 11.5" barrel, with nothing modified or changed. SFC "Doc" Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) also uses an M733, presumably because as a medic, he would need a lighter, more versatile weapon to move quickly to wounded soldiers.
[[Image:Colt Model 733.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Model 733 with 11.5" Barrel (The Model 723 is the export model of the same weapon - used by forces of the UAE and US Delta Force) 5.56mm]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) with his M733 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele shows the Delta Operators you don't need a fancy scope to fire an M733. Iron sights.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Ranger medic SFC Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) with his M733 in hand.]]

===Delta Sniper===
Delta Force MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) uses an [[M16_rifle_series#Colt_Carbine.2FModel_653.2FModel_727.2FModel_733|M733]] carbine modified with a camouflage paint scheme, Aimpoint scope, tactical light, and a sound suppressor. Shughart gives this rifle to the wounded Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant, who uses it before it runs out of ammo.
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) hovers above the second crash site with his suppressed M733.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon fires his suppressed M733 in defense of the crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mike Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) with Gordon's M733.]]

===CAR-15===
Some of the Deltas Operators are seen using [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando CAR-15]] carbines with the original long type muzzle brake, which are also heavily customized. There is a high possibility they are built from several Commando types so a definite I.D. isn't certain unless the armorer can verify it.

[[Image:BHDXM177E2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with his CAR-15 rifle at the ready, right side.]]
[[Image:BHD 2006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with a CAR-15.]]
[[Image:BHDXM177E2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator fires on a Somali .50 gunner with his CAR-15.]]

==Colt M4 carbine==
Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) seems to use an [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|Colt M4 carbine]] with the same customizations and paint job as the Commando rifles when doing solo operations in Somalia, noted by its removable carry handle. He uses it to shoot a wild boar from a chopper, and is chastised by CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) for keeping the weapon's safety off in the barracks. One of the Deltas is also seen using an M4 carbine during the operation itself.

A bit of anachronism here, both the M4 and M4A1 entered service in 1994, a year after the events of this film (in 1993), so the M4 should technically not be in Hoot's hands. The probable reason was the fact that most of the earlier M16 Carbines are hard to come by, so they needed something to fill that gap.

[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4 carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHDM4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Who's hungry?" Hoot readies his M4 carbine to shoot a wild boar. Note flashlight pressure switch attached to the handguards with electric tape. Also note that Hoot racks the action twice; once when he boards the chopper, and another time when he readies to shoot the boar.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele points out to Hoot that, whether an undisciplined Delta Operator or not, his M4 carbine should be safeties-on in the barracks. Hoot replies, "This is my safety", and bends his index finger. Note the knobs on the carry handle used to remove it from the gun and custom pistol grip. Also note that this particular weapon is quite clearly a rubber prop version, which are normally used only for stunt work.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator breaches and clears with an M4 carbine in hand. Note the removable carry handle.]]

== M60 machine gun ==
Specialist Shawn Nelson ([[Ewen Bremner]]) can be seen carrying an [[M60 machine gun]] machine gun as his standard weapon. A mounted M60 is also seen and fired from at least one of the Humvees in the extraction convoy. Some of the Somalis can be seen using them as well

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[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M60.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-Blanks.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60, here clearly loaded with blanks.]]
[[Image:BHD-M60-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson fires his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson firing his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the humvees.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1-1-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his M60 at the Somalis.]]
===Special===
[[Image:DHD3Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta actor shows vehicle-mounted M60s.]]

== FN Minimi ==

Several Rangers can be seen carrying [[FN Minimi|FN Minimis]] throughout the film, standing in for the [[FN Minimi|M249-E1 SAW]]. It is also the weapon used by Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) to accidentally deafen Nelson when he fires it too close to his head. The Minimis are also fitted with circular 200-round cloth ammo bags instead of hard plastic drums.

[[Image:M249 FN MINIMI DA-SC-85-11586 c1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN Minimi 5.56x45mm with 200-round ammo drum]]
[[Image:BHD-M249-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) with an FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHD-M249.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) firing his Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Twombley with his FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the charging handle rocking in slow motion on the FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) with his FN Minimi, yelling to Yurek about how they almost killed him]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his FN Minimi during the "Mogadishu Mile"]]

== M16A2 ==

SSG Matt Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Rangers armed, like most of them, with an [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]].

[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SSG Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Ranger team, many armed with M16A2s]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann firing his M16A2 at Somali militia as the Rangers make their way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Mike Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) fires his M16A2 while making his way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann fires his M16A2 during the rescue of SSG Busch. The pilot on the left is CWO Keith Jones, who was the pilot who rescued the real Busch during the actual event. It is evident from this shot that the lower receiver is that of an M16A1, not the A2, thus these rifles were built up on A1 lowers.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) with his M16A2 as the Rangers and Delta hold off the Somalia forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) switches between his M14 and an M16A2 as the Delta snipers defend their position at the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Probably the only Ranger in the film to fire bursts from his M16A2. Rangers are usually trained not to fire in bursts unless "they have a damn good reason", as quoted by several Drill Sergeants.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD1Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor in Delta clothes shows M16A2 in the movie armory.]]

== M14 Rifle ==
The [[M14 Rifle#M14 Rifle|M14 rifle]] is seen being used by Delta Force Sergeant First Class Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]), most notably when he and MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) are covering the second crash site. His M14 sports a camouflage paint scheme and an M68 Aimpoint scope.
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M21.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14. This shot appears to have been reversed. Note how the bolt and the battery slot on the Aimpoint is on the left side, not the right. Also see how Shughart and Gordon (off-shot) are right-handed in the other shots except for this one.]]
[[Image:BHD-M21-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart covers the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14 in defense of the second crash site.]]

==M16A1==
[[M16#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1]] rifles are seen in the Somali arms dealer's shop and one militia member is seen loading up one. At one point, Rangers can be seen watching a portion of the film ''[[The Jerk]]'' where a madman is trying to shoot the protagonist using a scoped M16A1.

[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M16A1 rifles hang in the dealer's shop along with M16A2s, likely captured from American forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moments before his epileptic seizure, LT Beales ([[Ioan Gruffudd]]) is watching a scene from ''[[The Jerk]]'' where the Madman ([[M. Emmet Walsh]]) is seen firing a scoped M16A1.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militiaman picks up an M16A1 with the flash hider removed and with a strange smooth ten round magazine.]]

==CETME==
Spanish [[CETME]] rifles are seen among the weapons in the arms dealer's shop, many of which are taken by the militia to combat the U.S. forces. They are not [[Heckler & Koch G3]]s, most notably because they have a simple fixed sight instead of a rear sight spindle.
[[Image:cetme.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Spanish CETME rifle chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Militia members pick up CETME rifles in the dealer's shop.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CETME rifles hanging next to the dealer.]]

== Heckler & Koch G3A3 ==

The local militia arm themselves with, among many other weapons, actual [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch G3A3]] assault rifles.

[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|G3A3 7.62x51mm NATO with green synthetic furniture]]
[[Image:BHD-G3A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member firing a G3A3 at the first MH-60K crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member takes cover from a Ranger's .50 caliber barrage armed with a G3A3.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member fires his G3A3.]]

== PKM Light Machine Gun ==

A [[PK Machine Gun|PKM light machine gun]] is seen resting on a table in the Somali arms dealer's shop.

[[Image:PKM-mg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PKM light machine gun 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PKM sits on the arms dealer's table]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of the PKM muzzle brake]]

==SVD Dragunov==
When Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) is in the Somali town, he passes the arms dealer, who has an [[SVD Dragunov]] on display.
[[Image:SVD Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SVD Dragunov - 7.62x54R.]]
[[Image:Bhd svd-edited.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An SVD Dragunov is seen behind Hoot. (Interesting anachronism here: the shades, Oakley Juliets, worn by actor Eric Bana did not exist during the events of this film.)]]

== RPK ==
One of the Somalis fires on Mike Durant's Black Hawk armed with an [[RPK light machine gun]]. Its blonde furniture indicates it could be a foreign copy. The machining divots in the receiver could help indicate its origins as well.
(the milled receiver, blonde wood, and the fact that the selector is in semi seem to suggest it is an Arsenal Bulgarian RPK, probably a US-made semi-auto variant)
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPK light machine gun 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDRPK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his RPK at the downed Black Hawk.]]

== RPG-7 ==

The Russian manufactured [[RPG-7]] features prominently in the film as the weapon which brings down a pair of UH-60 Blackhawks. In one scene inspired by an actual event, a projectile from an RPG-7 strikes PVT. Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]), the driver of one of the M-35 deuce and a half trucks in Lieutenant Colonel Danny McKnight ([[Tom Sizemore]])'s convoy and fails to detonate, impaling the luckless soldier instead.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 40mm]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RPG-7s being handed out by the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD-RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An antitank grenade being fired at a Black Hawk. It is obviously CGI, since there is no backblast.]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A milita member fires the RPG that takes down Super Six One, causing the first Blackhawk crash of the operation.]]
[[Image:BHDRPGhead.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An undetonated RPG warhead impales the deuce and a half driver, PFC Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]).]]

==Norinco Type 69==
Along with [[RPG-7]]s, Chinese [[RPG-7#Type 69|Norinco Type 69]] launchers are used by the militia.
[[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco Type 69 - 70mm.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69. Note how there is only one pistol grip and how he is holding the carry handle.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69.]]

== Norinco Type 56 ==
A full stock [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56]] is used by a Somali to whack Mike Durant in the head. It has a slanted AKM syle muzzle brake added on.
[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 with pig sticker type bayonet 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDType56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali smacks Mike Durant across the face with a Norinco Type 56.]]

== Norinco Type 56-1 ==

Nearly all of the Somali gunmen are armed with the [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56-1]] assault rifle, which is a Chinese derivative of the [[AK-47|AKS-47]]/[[AK-47#AKMS|AKMS]]. They are identified by the hooded front sights, which only Chinese Kalashnikov rifles have. At one point in the film, one of the soldiers can be seen removing the magazine from a discarded Type 56-1 and stuffing it in an empty pouch. Whether this was done to take back a souvenir or for some other reason is not known.

[[Image:Type56S.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A "Skinny" dies firing his Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Somali militiamen running with Type 56-1 rifles.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A round from this Norinco Type 56-1 causes the first KIA of the operation, SGT Dominic Pilla.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali kills SGT Joyce ([[Chris Beetem]]) with a shot to his back with a Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the hooded front sight on this Somali's 56-1.]]

== AKS-74U ==

Mo'alim ([[Razaaq Adoti]]), the Somali militia leader, carries an [[AKS-74U]] as his weapon of choice, first seen picking it up and inspecting it before heading into battle, then firing a burst into the air to break up the mob attacking one of the surviving Blackhawk pilots before announcing that he was to be taken alive as a prisoner.

[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK74.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim picks up and inspects an AKS-74U before heading into battle.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A clearer shot of the AKS-74U.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim with his AKS-74U.]]

== SPG-9 Recoilless Rifle ==

At one point in the film, Aidid's militia begin to bombard the building the majority of the Rangers and Deltas have taken cover in with mortars and an [[SPG-9 recoilless rifle]]. A group of Deltas led by Hoot soon kill the gunners and then turn the weapon against the militia, killing several with one shot.
[[Image:Spg-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SPG-9 recoiless rifle - 73mm]]
[[Image:BHD 010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aidid's militia prepare to fire the SPG-9 Recoilless on the Rangers and Deltas who are holed-up at the first crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD 012.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After eliminating the recoilless operators, Hoot and another Delta operator prepare to fire the SPG-9 recoilless rifle on the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD 009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) fires the recoilless rifle.]]

== AN/M14 Incendiary Grenade ==

There are several appearances in the film of [[AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]s; used by Deltas to destroy sensitive equipment at both Blackhawk crash sites, as well as to destroy the SPG-9 recoilless rifle mentioned above once Hoot and his team are done with it. Another one can be seen sitting on a table when Hoot is loading up.

[[Image:AN-M14 Incendiary Grenade.jpg|thumb|none|150px|AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AN/M14 incendiary grenade (far left) on a table]]

==Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher==
Many of the Rangers' [[M16 rifle series|M16A2s]] are fitted with [[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm Flare Launchers]], standing in for the [[M203 grenade launcher]]. Most notably seen in the hands of SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) of CPT Steele's ([[Jason Isaacs]]) unit. See flare launcher page for a guide on telling them apart.

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[[Image:Coltflare.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher]] 37mm.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger behind CPT Steele is seen armed with an M16A2/CM203. Note the squared trigger guard and cocking bolt on the right side.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele gives the dying SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) his M16A2/CM203, ordering him to give anyone two in the chest and one in the head if they enter the door.]]

== M203 Grenade Launcher ==

While the [[Colt Flare Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm launchers]] are fitted on most of the Ranger's [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]] rifles, a couple of actual [[M203 grenade launcher]]s attached to [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2s]] are seen, the most notable of which is Specialist John Grimes ([[Ewan McGregor]]) who assists Delta in taking out a ''technical'' that has them pinned down, missing the first shot before destroying the vehicle with a High-Explosive Dual-Purpose (HEDP) grenade from his M203.

[[Image:M16A2 M203.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M203 grenade launcher 40mm mounted on M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes with his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger in Eversmann's unit armed with an M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-5.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M203 like a proper desk clerk, eyes closed.]]
[[Image:BlackHawk 6006.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|It seems that [[Ewan McGregor]] has never fired an M203, as his depiction of recoil is horrible.]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes ejects a spent 40mm grenade.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here the trigger guard appears to have been removed]]

== M1911A1 ==
We see the [[M1911A1]] pistol in the hands of the Delta operators as their sidearm of choice. As the two Delta snipers attempt to secure the second crash site they are forced to draw their M1911A1 pistols as the overwhelming Somali forces close in on them. Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) can be seen at the firing range with an M1911A1 near the beginning of the film.

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[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) shows the Rangers what a .45 can do. (That is, better firepower at the cost of running out of ammunition twice as quickly.)]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MSG Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) fires his M1911A1 at the Somalis. At one point, his M1911A1 jams and the muzzle flashes are all CGI.]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) fires his M1911A1 while defending the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD-1911-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Despite being wounded, SFC Shughart continues to fire his M1911A1.]]
[[Image:BHD 015.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M1911A1 during the "Mogadishu Mile". It seems unlikely a well trained operator would wear his flight gloves like shown.]]
[[Image:Blackhawk11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of SGT Sanderson's M1911A1.]]

== Tokarev TT-33 ==

A Somali militiaman uses a [[Tokarev TT-33]] to kill SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) at the second crash site.
[[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali unloads his TT-33 into SFC Shughart]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the TT-33]]

== Beretta 92FS ==

The [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92FS]] pistol is seen a few times in the film in the hands of Rangers, and members of Lieutenant Colonel McKnight's convoy. Mainly it is seen in the hands of Maddox in the Humvee. McKnight himself carries his 92FS sidearm around as a proper means to defend himself.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:BHD-M9-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Humvee driver, Maddox ([[Michael Roof]]) fires his Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:BHDM9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McKnight is seen armed with his 92FS when walking away from a Ranger, blown in half by an RPG.]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5A3 ==

Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]), the MH-60 Black Hawk pilot of Super Six-Four, is armed with a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] with a slim handgrip and uses it to defend himself after he's shot down. The MP5 was briefly issued to helicopter crews as a personal defense weapon (PDW), but was discontinued in this role when it was determined its 9x19mm ammo lacked sufficient stopping power against armor-wearing or drug-crazed enemies, as was the case in Somalia. The guns is also briefly used by SFC Randy Shughart before being killed by the overwhelming militia.
In the book and real life, the weapons were actually [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|MP5K]]s. They were referred to as "Skinny Popper, a reference to the men's nickname for the Somalis.

[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm with slim handguard]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While trapped in his pilot seat, CWO3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) prepares to defend himself with his H&K MP5A3.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant fires his Heckler & Koch MP5A3 at the approaching Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHD 018.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant continues firing his H&K MP5A3 as the Delta snipers extract him from his downed Black Hawk.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) is firing the MP5A3 as he is shot.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD2Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor aims Durant's MP5 in movie armory. Note the other weapons behind him.]]

== Browning M2HB ==
The [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] heavy machine gun is fielded by the US Army on their HMMWVs, the U.N. forces on their APCs, and the Somali militia on their technicals in the film. The opening shots of the film feature Somali militiamen slaughtering a gathered crowd at a food distribution center with the powerful fifty-cal.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG in vehicle mounting]]
[[Image:BHD 022.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The opening shots of Black Hawk Down. Aidid's gunmen open fire on the crowd at the food distribution center with the Browning M2.]]
[[Image:BHD 025.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An Army Humvee with a Browning M2HB mounted on the roof, actually a rubber prop as shown when the barrel bounces when the Humvee goes over some bumps.]]
[[Image:BHD 001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Dominic Pilla ([[Danny Hoch]]) fires the M2HB from his Humvee as they evac an injured Ranger back to base.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) clearing the roof top of "skinnies" with an M2HB.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of Hoot firing the M2HB (Note that this was a movie blooper, since Hoot was actually wearing Nomex gloves.)]]
[[Image:BHDM2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mean-faced Somali awaits to fire on the Rangers with the M2HB.]]

== GE M134 Minigun ==

During the slaughter of the crowd, the U.S. forces hovering in the MH-60 aren't cleared to fire the [[GE M134 Minigun|Dillon Aero M134 minigun]]s mounted on their Black Hawk. Pylon-mounted miniguns, mounted alongside 2.75 rockets, are also carried by the AH-6 ''Little Birds'' and rain lead in several scenes.

[[Image:Minigun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Dillon Aero M134 with flash suppressor - 7.62x51mm NATO. These are new model M134 Miniguns or just updated GE Miniguns which are usually seen with a different spade grip mount that were used during the Vietnam War.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GE M134 with flash suppressor on the MH-60 Blackhawk as it transports Rangers and Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AH-6 "Little Bird" supplies close air support with its twin M134 miniguns.]]
[[Image:BHD 006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An MH-60 door gunner provides cover fire with an M134.]]
[[Image:BHDM134.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the M134 as it fires on RPG gunners.]]

== DShK Heavy Machine Gun ==

Several vehicle mounted Russian [[DShK heavy machine gun]]s appear in several scenes of the film.

[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Russian DShK 12.7x109mm]]
[[Image:BHD-DSHK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Somali militia leader on a DShK.]]
[[Image:BHD-DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A vehicle mounted DShK.]]

== M72 LAW ==

An Army Ranger, Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso, can be seen taking out a "technical" with an [[M72 LAW#|M72A3]]. The M72A3 was a Post Vietnam improved model of the M72 Rocket, and the last variation used by the U.S. Army. Upgrade versions (up to M72A7) of the LAW are being fielded by the U.S. Navy and USMC as recently as 2007.

[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW 66mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M72.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso takes aims at a technical.]]
[[Image:BHD-M72-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A 66mm rocket fired from an [[M72 LAW|M72A3 LAW]] mid-flight.]]

==Remington 870==
While never used on screen, SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) can be seen with a customized [[Remington 870]] Express Magnum (standing in for an 870 Police Magnum) slung over his right shoulder. A pistol grip (minus the folding stock) is used in place of the full stock. This same setup is used on a short 870 by [[Charlie Sheen]] in the movie ''[[Navy SEALs]]''.

In a deleted scene, SFC Sanderson uses the shotgun to blow the hinges on a door inside the target building.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceFolder.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with folding stock (One seen in the movie lacked the folding stock).]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson with his Remington 870 Express Magnum slung over his back. Note the full length barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of Sanderson's 870. Also a good shot of an M733 barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Receiver reads "Express Magnum" on Sanderson's 870. In real life it would have been a sturdier Police Magnum, not the cheaper, "economy priced" Express Magnum, though both are visually identical. The police magnum is the same shotgun, but built from stronger materials and has slightly different finish.]]

== M67 Hand Grenade ==

While loading up for the assault, Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) picks up [[M67 hand grenade|M67 fragmentation hand grenades]]. SFC Sanderson is later seen throwing one into a window to take out a Somali who has him and the Deltas and Rangers pinned down.

[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|225px|M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M67 Hand Grenades]]

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Black Hawk Down

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ThePinko49: /* Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher */

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Black Hawk Down''':''
[[Image:Black hawk down ver1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''[[Black Hawk Down]]'' (2001)]]

== Colt Commando ==

The Delta operators mainly wield the M727 and M733 variants of the [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando]]. The M727 variant is identified by its A2 upper receiver and 14.5" barrel with the cutout for mounting an M203 grenade launcher; the M733 has the shorter 11.5" barrel. Staff Sergeant Daniel Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) is the first Delta member on screen, and also the first soldier we see carrying an [[M16 rifle series#Colt Carbine/Model 653/Model 733|M727]]. All Delta members carry M727s and M733s, fitted with various accessories such as Aimpoint scopes and surefire flashlights. Master Sergeant Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) can be seen carrying an M733 featuring a camouflage paint scheme and a sound suppressor, which is then used by Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) to pick off several more Somalis before running out of ammunition and being overwhelmed.

[[Image:Coltm727ima.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt Model 727 5.56x45mm]]

===Delta Customs===
The Delta Force operators arm themselves differently from the Rangers by using customized Colt Model 727 and 733 rifles as opposed to longer, heavier M16A2 rifles. Many are fitted with such accessories as Aimpoint red dot scopes and Surefire tactical lights (with the pressure switch taped to the handguard with 100mph or electrical tape). Some of the Colts have camouflage paint schemes, and some of them are fitted with 14.5" barrels with M203 cuts (M727).
[[Image:BHD-M733.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SSG Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) aims an M727 carbine at Somali militants raiding a Red Cross food distribution center while aboard a Blackhawk. Note the flashlight pressure switch taped to the handguard.]]
[[Image:BHD-M733-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M727 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) uses his M727 to shoot out of a Humvee window.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A wounded SSG Busch climbs out of his crashed Blackhawk and fires his M727 at the Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson fires his M727 during the "Mogadishu Mile".]]

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===Rangers===
While the Rangers are armed almost entirely with [[M16A2]] rifles, Captain Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) uses an M733 rifle, noted by the 11.5" barrel, with nothing modified or changed. SFC "Doc" Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) also uses an M733, presumably because as a medic, he would need a lighter, more versatile weapon to move quickly to wounded soldiers.
[[Image:Colt Model 733.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Model 733 with 11.5" Barrel (The Model 723 is the export model of the same weapon - used by forces of the UAE and US Delta Force) 5.56mm]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) with his M733 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele shows the Delta Operators you don't need a fancy scope to fire an M733. Iron sights.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Ranger medic SFC Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) with his M733 in hand.]]

===Delta Sniper===
Delta Force MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) uses an [[M16_rifle_series#Colt_Carbine.2FModel_653.2FModel_727.2FModel_733|M733]] carbine modified with a camouflage paint scheme, Aimpoint scope, tactical light, and a sound suppressor. Shughart gives this rifle to the wounded Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant, who uses it before it runs out of ammo.
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) hovers above the second crash site with his suppressed M733.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon fires his suppressed M733 in defense of the crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mike Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) with Gordon's M733.]]

===CAR-15===
Some of the Deltas Operators are seen using [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando CAR-15]] carbines with the original long type muzzle brake, which are also heavily customized. There is a high possibility they are built from several Commando types so a definite I.D. isn't certain unless the armorer can verify it.

[[Image:BHDXM177E2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with his CAR-15 rifle at the ready, right side.]]
[[Image:BHD 2006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with a CAR-15.]]
[[Image:BHDXM177E2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator fires on a Somali .50 gunner with his CAR-15.]]

==Colt M4 carbine==
Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) seems to use an [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|Colt M4 carbine]] with the same customizations and paint job as the Commando rifles when doing solo operations in Somalia, noted by its removable carry handle. He uses it to shoot a wild boar from a chopper, and is chastised by CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) for keeping the weapon's safety off in the barracks. One of the Deltas is also seen using an M4 carbine during the operation itself.

A bit of anachronism here, both the M4 and M4A1 entered service in 1994, a year after the events of this film (in 1993), so the M4 should technically not be in Hoot's hands. The probable reason was the fact that most of the earlier M16 Carbines are hard to come by, so they needed something to fill that gap.

[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4 carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHDM4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Who's hungry?" Hoot readies his M4 carbine to shoot a wild boar. Note flashlight pressure switch attached to the handguards with electric tape. Also note that Hoot racks the action twice; once when he boards the chopper, and another time when he readies to shoot the boar.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele points out to Hoot that, whether an undisciplined Delta Operator or not, his M4 carbine should be safeties-on in the barracks. Hoot replies, "This is my safety", and bends his index finger. Note the knobs on the carry handle used to remove it from the gun and custom pistol grip. Also note that this particular weapon is quite clearly a rubber prop version, which are normally used only for stunt work.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator breaches and clears with an M4 carbine in hand. Note the removable carry handle.]]

== M60 machine gun ==
Specialist Shawn Nelson ([[Ewen Bremner]]) can be seen carrying an [[M60 machine gun]] machine gun as his standard weapon. A mounted M60 is also seen and fired from at least one of the Humvees in the extraction convoy. Some of the Somalis can be seen using them as well

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[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M60.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-Blanks.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60, here clearly loaded with blanks.]]
[[Image:BHD-M60-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson fires his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson firing his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the humvees.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1-1-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his M60 at the Somalis.]]
===Special===
[[Image:DHD3Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta actor shows vehicle-mounted M60s.]]

== FN Minimi ==

Several Rangers can be seen carrying [[FN Minimi|FN Minimis]] throughout the film, standing in for the [[FN Minimi|M249-E1 SAW]]. It is also the weapon used by Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) to accidentally deafen Nelson when he fires it too close to his head. The Minimis are also fitted with circular 200-round cloth ammo bags instead of hard plastic drums.

[[Image:M249 FN MINIMI DA-SC-85-11586 c1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN Minimi 5.56x45mm with 200-round ammo drum]]
[[Image:BHD-M249-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) with an FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHD-M249.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) firing his Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Twombley with his FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the charging handle rocking in slow motion on the FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) with his FN Minimi, yelling to Yurek about how they almost killed him]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his FN Minimi during the "Mogadishu Mile"]]

== M16A2 ==

SSG Matt Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Rangers armed, like most of them, with an [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]].

[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SSG Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Ranger team, many armed with M16A2s]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann firing his M16A2 at Somali militia as the Rangers make their way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Mike Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) fires his M16A2 while making his way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann fires his M16A2 during the rescue of SSG Busch. The pilot on the left is CWO Keith Jones, who was the pilot who rescued the real Busch during the actual event. It is evident from this shot that the lower receiver is that of an M16A1, not the A2, thus these rifles were built up on A1 lowers.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) with his M16A2 as the Rangers and Delta hold off the Somalia forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) switches between his M14 and an M16A2 as the Delta snipers defend their position at the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Probably the only Ranger in the film to fire bursts from his M16A2. Rangers are usually trained not to fire in bursts unless "they have a damn good reason", as quoted by several Drill Sergeants.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD1Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor in Delta clothes shows M16A2 in the movie armory.]]

== M14 Rifle ==
The [[M14 Rifle#M14 Rifle|M14 rifle]] is seen being used by Delta Force Sergeant First Class Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]), most notably when he and MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) are covering the second crash site. His M14 sports a camouflage paint scheme and an M68 Aimpoint scope.
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M21.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14. This shot appears to have been reversed. Note how the bolt and the battery slot on the Aimpoint is on the left side, not the right. Also see how Shughart and Gordon (off-shot) are right-handed in the other shots except for this one.]]
[[Image:BHD-M21-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart covers the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14 in defense of the second crash site.]]

==M16A1==
[[M16#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1]] rifles are seen in the Somali arms dealer's shop and one militia member is seen loading up one. At one point, Rangers can be seen watching a portion of the film ''[[The Jerk]]'' where a madman is trying to shoot the protagonist using a scoped M16A1.

[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M16A1 rifles hang in the dealer's shop along with M16A2s, likely captured from American forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moments before his epileptic seizure, LT Beales ([[Ioan Gruffudd]]) is watching a scene from ''[[The Jerk]]'' where the Madman ([[M. Emmet Walsh]]) is seen firing a scoped M16A1.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militiaman picks up an M16A1 with the flash hider removed and with a strange smooth ten round magazine.]]

==CETME==
Spanish [[CETME]] rifles are seen among the weapons in the arms dealer's shop, many of which are taken by the militia to combat the U.S. forces. They are not [[Heckler & Koch G3]]s, most notably because they have a simple fixed sight instead of a rear sight spindle.
[[Image:cetme.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Spanish CETME rifle chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Militia members pick up CETME rifles in the dealer's shop.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CETME rifles hanging next to the dealer.]]

== Heckler & Koch G3A3 ==

The local militia arm themselves with, among many other weapons, actual [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch G3A3]] assault rifles.

[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|G3A3 7.62x51mm NATO with green synthetic furniture]]
[[Image:BHD-G3A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member firing a G3A3 at the first MH-60K crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member takes cover from a Ranger's .50 caliber barrage armed with a G3A3.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member fires his G3A3.]]

== PKM Light Machine Gun ==

A [[PK Machine Gun|PKM light machine gun]] is seen resting on a table in the Somali arms dealer's shop.

[[Image:PKM-mg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PKM light machine gun 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PKM sits on the arms dealer's table]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of the PKM muzzle brake]]

==SVD Dragunov==
When Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) is in the Somali town, he passes the arms dealer, who has an [[SVD Dragunov]] on display.
[[Image:SVD Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SVD Dragunov - 7.62x54R.]]
[[Image:Bhd svd-edited.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An SVD Dragunov is seen behind Hoot. (Interesting anachronism here: the shades, Oakley Juliets, worn by actor Eric Bana did not exist during the events of this film.)]]

== RPK ==
One of the Somalis fires on Mike Durant's Black Hawk armed with an [[RPK light machine gun]]. Its blonde furniture indicates it could be a foreign copy. The machining divots in the receiver could help indicate its origins as well.
(the milled receiver, blonde wood, and the fact that the selector is in semi seem to suggest it is an Arsenal Bulgarian RPK, probably a US-made semi-auto variant)
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPK light machine gun 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDRPK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his RPK at the downed Black Hawk.]]

== RPG-7 ==

The Russian manufactured [[RPG-7]] features prominently in the film as the weapon which brings down a pair of UH-60 Blackhawks. In one scene inspired by an actual event, a projectile from an RPG-7 strikes PVT. Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]), the driver of one of the M-35 deuce and a half trucks in Lieutenant Colonel Danny McKnight ([[Tom Sizemore]])'s convoy and fails to detonate, impaling the luckless soldier instead.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 40mm]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RPG-7s being handed out by the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD-RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An antitank grenade being fired at a Black Hawk. It is obviously CGI, since there is no backblast.]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A milita member fires the RPG that takes down Super Six One, causing the first Blackhawk crash of the operation.]]
[[Image:BHDRPGhead.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An undetonated RPG warhead impales the deuce and a half driver, PFC Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]).]]

==Norinco Type 69==
Along with [[RPG-7]]s, Chinese [[RPG-7#Type 69|Norinco Type 69]] launchers are used by the militia.
[[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco Type 69 - 70mm.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69. Note how there is only one pistol grip and how he is holding the carry handle.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69.]]

== Norinco Type 56 ==
A full stock [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56]] is used by a Somali to whack Mike Durant in the head. It has a slanted AKM syle muzzle brake added on.
[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 with pig sticker type bayonet 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDType56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali smacks Mike Durant across the face with a Norinco Type 56.]]

== Norinco Type 56-1 ==

Nearly all of the Somali gunmen are armed with the [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56-1]] assault rifle, which is a Chinese derivative of the [[AK-47|AKS-47]]/[[AK-47#AKMS|AKMS]]. They are identified by the hooded front sights, which only Chinese Kalashnikov rifles have. At one point in the film, one of the soldiers can be seen removing the magazine from a discarded Type 56-1 and stuffing it in an empty pouch. Whether this was done to take back a souvenir or for some other reason is not known.

[[Image:Type56S.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A "Skinny" dies firing his Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Somali militiamen running with Type 56-1 rifles.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A round from this Norinco Type 56-1 causes the first KIA of the operation, SGT Dominic Pilla.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali kills SGT Joyce ([[Chris Beetem]]) with a shot to his back with a Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the hooded front sight on this Somali's 56-1.]]

== AKS-74U ==

Mo'alim ([[Razaaq Adoti]]), the Somali militia leader, carries an [[AKS-74U]] as his weapon of choice, first seen picking it up and inspecting it before heading into battle, then firing a burst into the air to break up the mob attacking one of the surviving Blackhawk pilots before announcing that he was to be taken alive as a prisoner.

[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK74.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim picks up and inspects an AKS-74U before heading into battle.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A clearer shot of the AKS-74U.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim with his AKS-74U.]]

== SPG-9 Recoilless Rifle ==

At one point in the film, Aidid's militia begin to bombard the building the majority of the Rangers and Deltas have taken cover in with mortars and an [[SPG-9 recoilless rifle]]. A group of Deltas led by Hoot soon kill the gunners and then turn the weapon against the militia, killing several with one shot.
[[Image:Spg-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SPG-9 recoiless rifle - 73mm]]
[[Image:BHD 010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aidid's militia prepare to fire the SPG-9 Recoilless on the Rangers and Deltas who are holed-up at the first crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD 012.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After eliminating the recoilless operators, Hoot and another Delta operator prepare to fire the SPG-9 recoilless rifle on the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD 009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) fires the recoilless rifle.]]

== AN/M14 Incendiary Grenade ==

There are several appearances in the film of [[AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]s; used by Deltas to destroy sensitive equipment at both Blackhawk crash sites, as well as to destroy the SPG-9 recoilless rifle mentioned above once Hoot and his team are done with it. Another one can be seen sitting on a table when Hoot is loading up.

[[Image:AN-M14 Incendiary Grenade.jpg|thumb|none|150px|AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AN/M14 incendiary grenade (far left) on a table]]

==Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher==
Many of the Rangers' [[M16 rifle series|M16A2s]] are fitted with [[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm Flare Launchers]], standing in for the [[M203 grenade launcher]]. Most notably seen in the hands of SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) of CPT Steele's ([[Jason Isaacs]]) unit. See flare launcher page for a guide on telling them apart.

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[[Image:Coltflare.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher]] 37mm.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger behind CPT Steele is seen armed with an M16A2/CM203. Note the squared trigger guard and cocking bolt on the right side.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele gives the dying SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) his M16A2/CM203, ordering him to give anyone two in the chest and one in the head if they enter the door.]]

== M203 Grenade Launcher ==

While the [[Colt Flare Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm launchers]] are fitted on most of the Ranger's [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]] rifles, a couple of actual [[M203 grenade launcher]]s attached to [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2s]] are seen, the most notable of which is Specialist John Grimes ([[Ewan McGregor]]) who assists Delta in taking out a ''technical'' that has them pinned down, missing the first shot before destroying the vehicle with a High-Explosive Dual-Purpose (HEDP) grenade from his M203.

[[Image:M16A2 M203.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M203 grenade launcher 40mm mounted on M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes with his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger in Eversmann's unit armed with an M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-5.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M203 like a proper desk clerk, eyes closed.]]
[[Image:BlackHawk 6006.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|It seems that [[Ewan McGregor]] has never fired an M203, as his depiction of recoil is horrible.]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes ejects a spent 40mm grenade.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here the trigger guard appears to have been removed]]

== M1911A1 ==
We see the [[M1911A1]] pistol in the hands of the Delta operators as their sidearm of choice. As the two Delta snipers attempt to secure the second crash site they are forced to draw their M1911A1 pistols as the overwhelming Somali forces close in on them. Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) can be seen at the firing range with an M1911A1 near the beginning of the film.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) shows the Rangers what a .45 can do. (That is, better firepower at the cost of running out of ammunition twice as quickly.)]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MSG Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) fires his M1911A1 at the Somalis. At one point, his M1911A1 jams and the muzzle flashes are all CGI.]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) fires his M1911A1 while defending the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD-1911-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Despite being wounded, SFC Shughart continues to fire his M1911A1.]]
[[Image:BHD 015.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M1911A1 during the "Mogadishu Mile". It seems unlikely a well trained operator would wear his flight gloves like shown.]]
[[Image:Blackhawk11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of SGT Sanderson's M1911A1.]]

== Tokarev TT-33 ==

A Somali militiaman uses a [[Tokarev TT-33]] to kill SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) at the second crash site.
[[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali unloads his TT-33 into SFC Shughart]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the TT-33]]

== Beretta 92FS ==

The [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92FS]] pistol is seen a few times in the film in the hands of Rangers, and members of Lieutenant Colonel McKnight's convoy. Mainly it is seen in the hands of Maddox in the Humvee. McKnight himself carries his 92FS sidearm around as a proper means to defend himself.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:BHD-M9-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Humvee driver, Maddox ([[Michael Roof]]) fires his Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:BHDM9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McKnight is seen armed with his 92FS when walking away from a Ranger, blown in half by an RPG.]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5A3 ==

Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]), the MH-60 Black Hawk pilot of Super Six-Four, is armed with a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] with a slim handgrip and uses it to defend himself after he's shot down. The MP5 was briefly issued to helicopter crews as a personal defense weapon (PDW), but was discontinued in this role when it was determined its 9x19mm ammo lacked sufficient stopping power against armor-wearing or drug-crazed enemies, as was the case in Somalia. The guns is also briefly used by SFC Randy Shughart before being killed by the overwhelming militia.
In the book and real life, the weapons were actually [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|MP5K]]s. They were referred to as "Skinny Popper, a reference to the men's nickname for the Somalis.

[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm with slim handguard]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While trapped in his pilot seat, CWO3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) prepares to defend himself with his H&K MP5A3.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant fires his Heckler & Koch MP5A3 at the approaching Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHD 018.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant continues firing his H&K MP5A3 as the Delta snipers extract him from his downed Black Hawk.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) is firing the MP5A3 as he is shot.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD2Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor aims Durant's MP5 in movie armory. Note the other weapons behind him.]]

== Browning M2HB ==
The [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] heavy machine gun is fielded by the US Army on their HMMWVs, the U.N. forces on their APCs, and the Somali militia on their technicals in the film. The opening shots of the film feature Somali militiamen slaughtering a gathered crowd at a food distribution center with the powerful fifty-cal.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG in vehicle mounting]]
[[Image:BHD 022.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The opening shots of Black Hawk Down. Aidid's gunmen open fire on the crowd at the food distribution center with the Browning M2.]]
[[Image:BHD 025.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An Army Humvee with a Browning M2HB mounted on the roof, actually a rubber prop as shown when the barrel bounces when the Humvee goes over some bumps.]]
[[Image:BHD 001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Dominic Pilla ([[Danny Hoch]]) fires the M2HB from his Humvee as they evac an injured Ranger back to base.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) clearing the roof top of "skinnies" with an M2HB.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of Hoot firing the M2HB (Note that this was a movie blooper, since Hoot was actually wearing Nomex gloves.)]]
[[Image:BHDM2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mean-faced Somali awaits to fire on the Rangers with the M2HB.]]

== GE M134 Minigun ==

During the slaughter of the crowd, the U.S. forces hovering in the MH-60 aren't cleared to fire the [[GE M134 Minigun|Dillon Aero M134 minigun]]s mounted on their Black Hawk. Pylon-mounted miniguns, mounted alongside 2.75 rockets, are also carried by the AH-6 ''Little Birds'' and rain lead in several scenes.

[[Image:Minigun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Dillon Aero M134 with flash suppressor - 7.62x51mm NATO. These are new model M134 Miniguns or just updated GE Miniguns which are usually seen with a different spade grip mount that were used during the Vietnam War.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GE M134 with flash suppressor on the MH-60 Blackhawk as it transports Rangers and Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AH-6 "Little Bird" supplies close air support with its twin M134 miniguns.]]
[[Image:BHD 006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An MH-60 door gunner provides cover fire with an M134.]]
[[Image:BHDM134.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the M134 as it fires on RPG gunners.]]

== DShK Heavy Machine Gun ==

Several vehicle mounted Russian [[DShK heavy machine gun]]s appear in several scenes of the film.

[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Russian DShK 12.7x109mm]]
[[Image:BHD-DSHK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Somali militia leader on a DShK.]]
[[Image:BHD-DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A vehicle mounted DShK.]]

== M72 LAW ==

An Army Ranger, Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso, can be seen taking out a "technical" with an [[M72 LAW#|M72A3]]. The M72A3 was a Post Vietnam improved model of the M72 Rocket, and the last variation used by the U.S. Army. Upgrade versions (up to M72A7) of the LAW are being fielded by the U.S. Navy and USMC as recently as 2007.

[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW 66mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M72.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso takes aims at a technical.]]
[[Image:BHD-M72-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A 66mm rocket fired from an [[M72 LAW|M72A3 LAW]] mid-flight.]]

==Remington 870==
While never used on screen, SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) can be seen with a customized [[Remington 870]] Express Magnum (standing in for an 870 Police Magnum) slung over his right shoulder. A pistol grip (minus the folding stock) is used in place of the full stock. This same setup is used on a short 870 by [[Charlie Sheen]] in the movie ''[[Navy SEALs]]''.

In a deleted scene, SFC Sanderson uses the shotgun to blow the hinges on a door inside the target building.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceFolder.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with folding stock (One seen in the movie lacked the folding stock).]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson with his Remington 870 Express Magnum slung over his back. Note the full length barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of Sanderson's 870. Also a good shot of an M733 barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Receiver reads "Express Magnum" on Sanderson's 870. In real life it would have been a sturdier Police Magnum, not the cheaper, "economy priced" Express Magnum, though both are visually identical. The police magnum is the same shotgun, but built from stronger materials and has slightly different finish.]]

== M67 Hand Grenade ==

While loading up for the assault, Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) picks up [[M67 hand grenade|M67 fragmentation hand grenades]]. SFC Sanderson is later seen throwing one into a window to take out a Somali who has him and the Deltas and Rangers pinned down.

[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|225px|M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M67 Hand Grenades]]

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Black Hawk Down

2010-07-22T15:27:29Z

ThePinko49: /* M60 machine gun */

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Black Hawk Down''':''
[[Image:Black hawk down ver1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''[[Black Hawk Down]]'' (2001)]]

== Colt Commando ==

The Delta operators mainly wield the M727 and M733 variants of the [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando]]. The M727 variant is identified by its A2 upper receiver and 14.5" barrel with the cutout for mounting an M203 grenade launcher; the M733 has the shorter 11.5" barrel. Staff Sergeant Daniel Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) is the first Delta member on screen, and also the first soldier we see carrying an [[M16 rifle series#Colt Carbine/Model 653/Model 733|M727]]. All Delta members carry M727s and M733s, fitted with various accessories such as Aimpoint scopes and surefire flashlights. Master Sergeant Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) can be seen carrying an M733 featuring a camouflage paint scheme and a sound suppressor, which is then used by Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) to pick off several more Somalis before running out of ammunition and being overwhelmed.

[[Image:Coltm727ima.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt Model 727 5.56x45mm]]

===Delta Customs===
The Delta Force operators arm themselves differently from the Rangers by using customized Colt Model 727 and 733 rifles as opposed to longer, heavier M16A2 rifles. Many are fitted with such accessories as Aimpoint red dot scopes and Surefire tactical lights (with the pressure switch taped to the handguard with 100mph or electrical tape). Some of the Colts have camouflage paint schemes, and some of them are fitted with 14.5" barrels with M203 cuts (M727).
[[Image:BHD-M733.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SSG Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) aims an M727 carbine at Somali militants raiding a Red Cross food distribution center while aboard a Blackhawk. Note the flashlight pressure switch taped to the handguard.]]
[[Image:BHD-M733-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M727 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) uses his M727 to shoot out of a Humvee window.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A wounded SSG Busch climbs out of his crashed Blackhawk and fires his M727 at the Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson fires his M727 during the "Mogadishu Mile".]]

excalibur has bitch tits

===Rangers===
While the Rangers are armed almost entirely with [[M16A2]] rifles, Captain Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) uses an M733 rifle, noted by the 11.5" barrel, with nothing modified or changed. SFC "Doc" Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) also uses an M733, presumably because as a medic, he would need a lighter, more versatile weapon to move quickly to wounded soldiers.
[[Image:Colt Model 733.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Model 733 with 11.5" Barrel (The Model 723 is the export model of the same weapon - used by forces of the UAE and US Delta Force) 5.56mm]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) with his M733 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele shows the Delta Operators you don't need a fancy scope to fire an M733. Iron sights.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Ranger medic SFC Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) with his M733 in hand.]]

===Delta Sniper===
Delta Force MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) uses an [[M16_rifle_series#Colt_Carbine.2FModel_653.2FModel_727.2FModel_733|M733]] carbine modified with a camouflage paint scheme, Aimpoint scope, tactical light, and a sound suppressor. Shughart gives this rifle to the wounded Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant, who uses it before it runs out of ammo.
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) hovers above the second crash site with his suppressed M733.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon fires his suppressed M733 in defense of the crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mike Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) with Gordon's M733.]]

===CAR-15===
Some of the Deltas Operators are seen using [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando CAR-15]] carbines with the original long type muzzle brake, which are also heavily customized. There is a high possibility they are built from several Commando types so a definite I.D. isn't certain unless the armorer can verify it.

[[Image:BHDXM177E2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with his CAR-15 rifle at the ready, right side.]]
[[Image:BHD 2006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with a CAR-15.]]
[[Image:BHDXM177E2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator fires on a Somali .50 gunner with his CAR-15.]]

==Colt M4 carbine==
Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) seems to use an [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|Colt M4 carbine]] with the same customizations and paint job as the Commando rifles when doing solo operations in Somalia, noted by its removable carry handle. He uses it to shoot a wild boar from a chopper, and is chastised by CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) for keeping the weapon's safety off in the barracks. One of the Deltas is also seen using an M4 carbine during the operation itself.

A bit of anachronism here, both the M4 and M4A1 entered service in 1994, a year after the events of this film (in 1993), so the M4 should technically not be in Hoot's hands. The probable reason was the fact that most of the earlier M16 Carbines are hard to come by, so they needed something to fill that gap.

[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4 carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHDM4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Who's hungry?" Hoot readies his M4 carbine to shoot a wild boar. Note flashlight pressure switch attached to the handguards with electric tape. Also note that Hoot racks the action twice; once when he boards the chopper, and another time when he readies to shoot the boar.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele points out to Hoot that, whether an undisciplined Delta Operator or not, his M4 carbine should be safeties-on in the barracks. Hoot replies, "This is my safety", and bends his index finger. Note the knobs on the carry handle used to remove it from the gun and custom pistol grip. Also note that this particular weapon is quite clearly a rubber prop version, which are normally used only for stunt work.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator breaches and clears with an M4 carbine in hand. Note the removable carry handle.]]

== M60 machine gun ==
Specialist Shawn Nelson ([[Ewen Bremner]]) can be seen carrying an [[M60 machine gun]] machine gun as his standard weapon. A mounted M60 is also seen and fired from at least one of the Humvees in the extraction convoy. Some of the Somalis can be seen using them as well

excalibur has a small penis

[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M60.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-Blanks.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60, here clearly loaded with blanks.]]
[[Image:BHD-M60-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson fires his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson firing his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the humvees.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1-1-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his M60 at the Somalis.]]
===Special===
[[Image:DHD3Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta actor shows vehicle-mounted M60s.]]

== FN Minimi ==

Several Rangers can be seen carrying [[FN Minimi|FN Minimis]] throughout the film, standing in for the [[FN Minimi|M249-E1 SAW]]. It is also the weapon used by Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) to accidentally deafen Nelson when he fires it too close to his head. The Minimis are also fitted with circular 200-round cloth ammo bags instead of hard plastic drums.

[[Image:M249 FN MINIMI DA-SC-85-11586 c1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN Minimi 5.56x45mm with 200-round ammo drum]]
[[Image:BHD-M249-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) with an FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHD-M249.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) firing his Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Twombley with his FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the charging handle rocking in slow motion on the FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) with his FN Minimi, yelling to Yurek about how they almost killed him]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his FN Minimi during the "Mogadishu Mile"]]

== M16A2 ==

SSG Matt Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Rangers armed, like most of them, with an [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]].

[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SSG Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Ranger team, many armed with M16A2s]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann firing his M16A2 at Somali militia as the Rangers make their way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Mike Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) fires his M16A2 while making his way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann fires his M16A2 during the rescue of SSG Busch. The pilot on the left is CWO Keith Jones, who was the pilot who rescued the real Busch during the actual event. It is evident from this shot that the lower receiver is that of an M16A1, not the A2, thus these rifles were built up on A1 lowers.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) with his M16A2 as the Rangers and Delta hold off the Somalia forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) switches between his M14 and an M16A2 as the Delta snipers defend their position at the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Probably the only Ranger in the film to fire bursts from his M16A2. Rangers are usually trained not to fire in bursts unless "they have a damn good reason", as quoted by several Drill Sergeants.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD1Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor in Delta clothes shows M16A2 in the movie armory.]]

== M14 Rifle ==
The [[M14 Rifle#M14 Rifle|M14 rifle]] is seen being used by Delta Force Sergeant First Class Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]), most notably when he and MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) are covering the second crash site. His M14 sports a camouflage paint scheme and an M68 Aimpoint scope.
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M21.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14. This shot appears to have been reversed. Note how the bolt and the battery slot on the Aimpoint is on the left side, not the right. Also see how Shughart and Gordon (off-shot) are right-handed in the other shots except for this one.]]
[[Image:BHD-M21-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart covers the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14 in defense of the second crash site.]]

==M16A1==
[[M16#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1]] rifles are seen in the Somali arms dealer's shop and one militia member is seen loading up one. At one point, Rangers can be seen watching a portion of the film ''[[The Jerk]]'' where a madman is trying to shoot the protagonist using a scoped M16A1.

[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M16A1 rifles hang in the dealer's shop along with M16A2s, likely captured from American forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moments before his epileptic seizure, LT Beales ([[Ioan Gruffudd]]) is watching a scene from ''[[The Jerk]]'' where the Madman ([[M. Emmet Walsh]]) is seen firing a scoped M16A1.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militiaman picks up an M16A1 with the flash hider removed and with a strange smooth ten round magazine.]]

==CETME==
Spanish [[CETME]] rifles are seen among the weapons in the arms dealer's shop, many of which are taken by the militia to combat the U.S. forces. They are not [[Heckler & Koch G3]]s, most notably because they have a simple fixed sight instead of a rear sight spindle.
[[Image:cetme.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Spanish CETME rifle chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Militia members pick up CETME rifles in the dealer's shop.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CETME rifles hanging next to the dealer.]]

== Heckler & Koch G3A3 ==

The local militia arm themselves with, among many other weapons, actual [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch G3A3]] assault rifles.

[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|G3A3 7.62x51mm NATO with green synthetic furniture]]
[[Image:BHD-G3A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member firing a G3A3 at the first MH-60K crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member takes cover from a Ranger's .50 caliber barrage armed with a G3A3.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member fires his G3A3.]]

== PKM Light Machine Gun ==

A [[PK Machine Gun|PKM light machine gun]] is seen resting on a table in the Somali arms dealer's shop.

[[Image:PKM-mg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PKM light machine gun 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PKM sits on the arms dealer's table]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of the PKM muzzle brake]]

==SVD Dragunov==
When Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) is in the Somali town, he passes the arms dealer, who has an [[SVD Dragunov]] on display.
[[Image:SVD Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SVD Dragunov - 7.62x54R.]]
[[Image:Bhd svd-edited.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An SVD Dragunov is seen behind Hoot. (Interesting anachronism here: the shades, Oakley Juliets, worn by actor Eric Bana did not exist during the events of this film.)]]

== RPK ==
One of the Somalis fires on Mike Durant's Black Hawk armed with an [[RPK light machine gun]]. Its blonde furniture indicates it could be a foreign copy. The machining divots in the receiver could help indicate its origins as well.
(the milled receiver, blonde wood, and the fact that the selector is in semi seem to suggest it is an Arsenal Bulgarian RPK, probably a US-made semi-auto variant)
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPK light machine gun 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDRPK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his RPK at the downed Black Hawk.]]

== RPG-7 ==

The Russian manufactured [[RPG-7]] features prominently in the film as the weapon which brings down a pair of UH-60 Blackhawks. In one scene inspired by an actual event, a projectile from an RPG-7 strikes PVT. Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]), the driver of one of the M-35 deuce and a half trucks in Lieutenant Colonel Danny McKnight ([[Tom Sizemore]])'s convoy and fails to detonate, impaling the luckless soldier instead.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 40mm]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RPG-7s being handed out by the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD-RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An antitank grenade being fired at a Black Hawk. It is obviously CGI, since there is no backblast.]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A milita member fires the RPG that takes down Super Six One, causing the first Blackhawk crash of the operation.]]
[[Image:BHDRPGhead.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An undetonated RPG warhead impales the deuce and a half driver, PFC Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]).]]

==Norinco Type 69==
Along with [[RPG-7]]s, Chinese [[RPG-7#Type 69|Norinco Type 69]] launchers are used by the militia.
[[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco Type 69 - 70mm.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69. Note how there is only one pistol grip and how he is holding the carry handle.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69.]]

== Norinco Type 56 ==
A full stock [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56]] is used by a Somali to whack Mike Durant in the head. It has a slanted AKM syle muzzle brake added on.
[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 with pig sticker type bayonet 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDType56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali smacks Mike Durant across the face with a Norinco Type 56.]]

== Norinco Type 56-1 ==

Nearly all of the Somali gunmen are armed with the [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56-1]] assault rifle, which is a Chinese derivative of the [[AK-47|AKS-47]]/[[AK-47#AKMS|AKMS]]. They are identified by the hooded front sights, which only Chinese Kalashnikov rifles have. At one point in the film, one of the soldiers can be seen removing the magazine from a discarded Type 56-1 and stuffing it in an empty pouch. Whether this was done to take back a souvenir or for some other reason is not known.

[[Image:Type56S.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A "Skinny" dies firing his Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Somali militiamen running with Type 56-1 rifles.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A round from this Norinco Type 56-1 causes the first KIA of the operation, SGT Dominic Pilla.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali kills SGT Joyce ([[Chris Beetem]]) with a shot to his back with a Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the hooded front sight on this Somali's 56-1.]]

== AKS-74U ==

Mo'alim ([[Razaaq Adoti]]), the Somali militia leader, carries an [[AKS-74U]] as his weapon of choice, first seen picking it up and inspecting it before heading into battle, then firing a burst into the air to break up the mob attacking one of the surviving Blackhawk pilots before announcing that he was to be taken alive as a prisoner.

[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK74.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim picks up and inspects an AKS-74U before heading into battle.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A clearer shot of the AKS-74U.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim with his AKS-74U.]]

== SPG-9 Recoilless Rifle ==

At one point in the film, Aidid's militia begin to bombard the building the majority of the Rangers and Deltas have taken cover in with mortars and an [[SPG-9 recoilless rifle]]. A group of Deltas led by Hoot soon kill the gunners and then turn the weapon against the militia, killing several with one shot.
[[Image:Spg-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SPG-9 recoiless rifle - 73mm]]
[[Image:BHD 010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aidid's militia prepare to fire the SPG-9 Recoilless on the Rangers and Deltas who are holed-up at the first crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD 012.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After eliminating the recoilless operators, Hoot and another Delta operator prepare to fire the SPG-9 recoilless rifle on the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD 009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) fires the recoilless rifle.]]

== AN/M14 Incendiary Grenade ==

There are several appearances in the film of [[AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]s; used by Deltas to destroy sensitive equipment at both Blackhawk crash sites, as well as to destroy the SPG-9 recoilless rifle mentioned above once Hoot and his team are done with it. Another one can be seen sitting on a table when Hoot is loading up.

[[Image:AN-M14 Incendiary Grenade.jpg|thumb|none|150px|AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AN/M14 incendiary grenade (far left) on a table]]

==Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher==
Many of the Rangers' [[M16 rifle series|M16A2s]] are fitted with [[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm Flare Launchers]], standing in for the [[M203 grenade launcher]]. Most notably seen in the hands of SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) of CPT Steele's ([[Jason Isaacs]]) unit. See flare launcher page for a guide on telling them apart.
[[Image:Coltflare.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher]] 37mm.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger behind CPT Steele is seen armed with an M16A2/CM203. Note the squared trigger guard and cocking bolt on the right side.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele gives the dying SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) his M16A2/CM203, ordering him to give anyone two in the chest and one in the head if they enter the door.]]

== M203 Grenade Launcher ==

While the [[Colt Flare Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm launchers]] are fitted on most of the Ranger's [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]] rifles, a couple of actual [[M203 grenade launcher]]s attached to [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2s]] are seen, the most notable of which is Specialist John Grimes ([[Ewan McGregor]]) who assists Delta in taking out a ''technical'' that has them pinned down, missing the first shot before destroying the vehicle with a High-Explosive Dual-Purpose (HEDP) grenade from his M203.

[[Image:M16A2 M203.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M203 grenade launcher 40mm mounted on M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes with his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger in Eversmann's unit armed with an M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-5.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M203 like a proper desk clerk, eyes closed.]]
[[Image:BlackHawk 6006.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|It seems that [[Ewan McGregor]] has never fired an M203, as his depiction of recoil is horrible.]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes ejects a spent 40mm grenade.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here the trigger guard appears to have been removed]]

== M1911A1 ==
We see the [[M1911A1]] pistol in the hands of the Delta operators as their sidearm of choice. As the two Delta snipers attempt to secure the second crash site they are forced to draw their M1911A1 pistols as the overwhelming Somali forces close in on them. Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) can be seen at the firing range with an M1911A1 near the beginning of the film.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) shows the Rangers what a .45 can do. (That is, better firepower at the cost of running out of ammunition twice as quickly.)]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MSG Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) fires his M1911A1 at the Somalis. At one point, his M1911A1 jams and the muzzle flashes are all CGI.]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) fires his M1911A1 while defending the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD-1911-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Despite being wounded, SFC Shughart continues to fire his M1911A1.]]
[[Image:BHD 015.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M1911A1 during the "Mogadishu Mile". It seems unlikely a well trained operator would wear his flight gloves like shown.]]
[[Image:Blackhawk11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of SGT Sanderson's M1911A1.]]

== Tokarev TT-33 ==

A Somali militiaman uses a [[Tokarev TT-33]] to kill SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) at the second crash site.
[[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali unloads his TT-33 into SFC Shughart]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the TT-33]]

== Beretta 92FS ==

The [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92FS]] pistol is seen a few times in the film in the hands of Rangers, and members of Lieutenant Colonel McKnight's convoy. Mainly it is seen in the hands of Maddox in the Humvee. McKnight himself carries his 92FS sidearm around as a proper means to defend himself.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:BHD-M9-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Humvee driver, Maddox ([[Michael Roof]]) fires his Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:BHDM9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McKnight is seen armed with his 92FS when walking away from a Ranger, blown in half by an RPG.]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5A3 ==

Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]), the MH-60 Black Hawk pilot of Super Six-Four, is armed with a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] with a slim handgrip and uses it to defend himself after he's shot down. The MP5 was briefly issued to helicopter crews as a personal defense weapon (PDW), but was discontinued in this role when it was determined its 9x19mm ammo lacked sufficient stopping power against armor-wearing or drug-crazed enemies, as was the case in Somalia. The guns is also briefly used by SFC Randy Shughart before being killed by the overwhelming militia.
In the book and real life, the weapons were actually [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|MP5K]]s. They were referred to as "Skinny Popper, a reference to the men's nickname for the Somalis.

[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm with slim handguard]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While trapped in his pilot seat, CWO3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) prepares to defend himself with his H&K MP5A3.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant fires his Heckler & Koch MP5A3 at the approaching Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHD 018.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant continues firing his H&K MP5A3 as the Delta snipers extract him from his downed Black Hawk.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) is firing the MP5A3 as he is shot.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD2Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor aims Durant's MP5 in movie armory. Note the other weapons behind him.]]

== Browning M2HB ==
The [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] heavy machine gun is fielded by the US Army on their HMMWVs, the U.N. forces on their APCs, and the Somali militia on their technicals in the film. The opening shots of the film feature Somali militiamen slaughtering a gathered crowd at a food distribution center with the powerful fifty-cal.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG in vehicle mounting]]
[[Image:BHD 022.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The opening shots of Black Hawk Down. Aidid's gunmen open fire on the crowd at the food distribution center with the Browning M2.]]
[[Image:BHD 025.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An Army Humvee with a Browning M2HB mounted on the roof, actually a rubber prop as shown when the barrel bounces when the Humvee goes over some bumps.]]
[[Image:BHD 001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Dominic Pilla ([[Danny Hoch]]) fires the M2HB from his Humvee as they evac an injured Ranger back to base.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) clearing the roof top of "skinnies" with an M2HB.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of Hoot firing the M2HB (Note that this was a movie blooper, since Hoot was actually wearing Nomex gloves.)]]
[[Image:BHDM2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mean-faced Somali awaits to fire on the Rangers with the M2HB.]]

== GE M134 Minigun ==

During the slaughter of the crowd, the U.S. forces hovering in the MH-60 aren't cleared to fire the [[GE M134 Minigun|Dillon Aero M134 minigun]]s mounted on their Black Hawk. Pylon-mounted miniguns, mounted alongside 2.75 rockets, are also carried by the AH-6 ''Little Birds'' and rain lead in several scenes.

[[Image:Minigun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Dillon Aero M134 with flash suppressor - 7.62x51mm NATO. These are new model M134 Miniguns or just updated GE Miniguns which are usually seen with a different spade grip mount that were used during the Vietnam War.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GE M134 with flash suppressor on the MH-60 Blackhawk as it transports Rangers and Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AH-6 "Little Bird" supplies close air support with its twin M134 miniguns.]]
[[Image:BHD 006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An MH-60 door gunner provides cover fire with an M134.]]
[[Image:BHDM134.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the M134 as it fires on RPG gunners.]]

== DShK Heavy Machine Gun ==

Several vehicle mounted Russian [[DShK heavy machine gun]]s appear in several scenes of the film.

[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Russian DShK 12.7x109mm]]
[[Image:BHD-DSHK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Somali militia leader on a DShK.]]
[[Image:BHD-DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A vehicle mounted DShK.]]

== M72 LAW ==

An Army Ranger, Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso, can be seen taking out a "technical" with an [[M72 LAW#|M72A3]]. The M72A3 was a Post Vietnam improved model of the M72 Rocket, and the last variation used by the U.S. Army. Upgrade versions (up to M72A7) of the LAW are being fielded by the U.S. Navy and USMC as recently as 2007.

[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW 66mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M72.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso takes aims at a technical.]]
[[Image:BHD-M72-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A 66mm rocket fired from an [[M72 LAW|M72A3 LAW]] mid-flight.]]

==Remington 870==
While never used on screen, SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) can be seen with a customized [[Remington 870]] Express Magnum (standing in for an 870 Police Magnum) slung over his right shoulder. A pistol grip (minus the folding stock) is used in place of the full stock. This same setup is used on a short 870 by [[Charlie Sheen]] in the movie ''[[Navy SEALs]]''.

In a deleted scene, SFC Sanderson uses the shotgun to blow the hinges on a door inside the target building.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceFolder.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with folding stock (One seen in the movie lacked the folding stock).]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson with his Remington 870 Express Magnum slung over his back. Note the full length barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of Sanderson's 870. Also a good shot of an M733 barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Receiver reads "Express Magnum" on Sanderson's 870. In real life it would have been a sturdier Police Magnum, not the cheaper, "economy priced" Express Magnum, though both are visually identical. The police magnum is the same shotgun, but built from stronger materials and has slightly different finish.]]

== M67 Hand Grenade ==

While loading up for the assault, Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) picks up [[M67 hand grenade|M67 fragmentation hand grenades]]. SFC Sanderson is later seen throwing one into a window to take out a Somali who has him and the Deltas and Rangers pinned down.

[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|225px|M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M67 Hand Grenades]]

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Black Hawk Down

2010-07-22T15:26:47Z

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'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Black Hawk Down''':''
[[Image:Black hawk down ver1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''[[Black Hawk Down]]'' (2001)]]

== Colt Commando ==

The Delta operators mainly wield the M727 and M733 variants of the [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando]]. The M727 variant is identified by its A2 upper receiver and 14.5" barrel with the cutout for mounting an M203 grenade launcher; the M733 has the shorter 11.5" barrel. Staff Sergeant Daniel Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) is the first Delta member on screen, and also the first soldier we see carrying an [[M16 rifle series#Colt Carbine/Model 653/Model 733|M727]]. All Delta members carry M727s and M733s, fitted with various accessories such as Aimpoint scopes and surefire flashlights. Master Sergeant Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) can be seen carrying an M733 featuring a camouflage paint scheme and a sound suppressor, which is then used by Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) to pick off several more Somalis before running out of ammunition and being overwhelmed.

[[Image:Coltm727ima.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt Model 727 5.56x45mm]]

===Delta Customs===
The Delta Force operators arm themselves differently from the Rangers by using customized Colt Model 727 and 733 rifles as opposed to longer, heavier M16A2 rifles. Many are fitted with such accessories as Aimpoint red dot scopes and Surefire tactical lights (with the pressure switch taped to the handguard with 100mph or electrical tape). Some of the Colts have camouflage paint schemes, and some of them are fitted with 14.5" barrels with M203 cuts (M727).
[[Image:BHD-M733.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SSG Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) aims an M727 carbine at Somali militants raiding a Red Cross food distribution center while aboard a Blackhawk. Note the flashlight pressure switch taped to the handguard.]]
[[Image:BHD-M733-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M727 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) uses his M727 to shoot out of a Humvee window.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A wounded SSG Busch climbs out of his crashed Blackhawk and fires his M727 at the Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson fires his M727 during the "Mogadishu Mile".]]

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===Rangers===
While the Rangers are armed almost entirely with [[M16A2]] rifles, Captain Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) uses an M733 rifle, noted by the 11.5" barrel, with nothing modified or changed. SFC "Doc" Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) also uses an M733, presumably because as a medic, he would need a lighter, more versatile weapon to move quickly to wounded soldiers.
[[Image:Colt Model 733.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Model 733 with 11.5" Barrel (The Model 723 is the export model of the same weapon - used by forces of the UAE and US Delta Force) 5.56mm]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) with his M733 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele shows the Delta Operators you don't need a fancy scope to fire an M733. Iron sights.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Ranger medic SFC Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) with his M733 in hand.]]

===Delta Sniper===
Delta Force MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) uses an [[M16_rifle_series#Colt_Carbine.2FModel_653.2FModel_727.2FModel_733|M733]] carbine modified with a camouflage paint scheme, Aimpoint scope, tactical light, and a sound suppressor. Shughart gives this rifle to the wounded Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant, who uses it before it runs out of ammo.
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) hovers above the second crash site with his suppressed M733.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon fires his suppressed M733 in defense of the crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mike Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) with Gordon's M733.]]

===CAR-15===
Some of the Deltas Operators are seen using [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando CAR-15]] carbines with the original long type muzzle brake, which are also heavily customized. There is a high possibility they are built from several Commando types so a definite I.D. isn't certain unless the armorer can verify it.

[[Image:BHDXM177E2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with his CAR-15 rifle at the ready, right side.]]
[[Image:BHD 2006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with a CAR-15.]]
[[Image:BHDXM177E2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator fires on a Somali .50 gunner with his CAR-15.]]

==Colt M4 carbine==
Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) seems to use an [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|Colt M4 carbine]] with the same customizations and paint job as the Commando rifles when doing solo operations in Somalia, noted by its removable carry handle. He uses it to shoot a wild boar from a chopper, and is chastised by CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) for keeping the weapon's safety off in the barracks. One of the Deltas is also seen using an M4 carbine during the operation itself.

A bit of anachronism here, both the M4 and M4A1 entered service in 1994, a year after the events of this film (in 1993), so the M4 should technically not be in Hoot's hands. The probable reason was the fact that most of the earlier M16 Carbines are hard to come by, so they needed something to fill that gap.

[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4 carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHDM4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Who's hungry?" Hoot readies his M4 carbine to shoot a wild boar. Note flashlight pressure switch attached to the handguards with electric tape. Also note that Hoot racks the action twice; once when he boards the chopper, and another time when he readies to shoot the boar.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele points out to Hoot that, whether an undisciplined Delta Operator or not, his M4 carbine should be safeties-on in the barracks. Hoot replies, "This is my safety", and bends his index finger. Note the knobs on the carry handle used to remove it from the gun and custom pistol grip. Also note that this particular weapon is quite clearly a rubber prop version, which are normally used only for stunt work.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator breaches and clears with an M4 carbine in hand. Note the removable carry handle.]]

== M60 machine gun ==
Specialist Shawn Nelson ([[Ewen Bremner]]) can be seen carrying an [[M60 machine gun]] machine gun as his standard weapon. A mounted M60 is also seen and fired from at least one of the Humvees in the extraction convoy. Some of the Somalis can be seen using them as well

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[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M60.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-Blanks.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60, here clearly loaded with blanks.]]
[[Image:BHD-M60-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson fires his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson firing his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the humvees.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1-1-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his M60 at the Somalis.]]
===Special===
[[Image:DHD3Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta actor shows vehicle-mounted M60s.]]

== FN Minimi ==

Several Rangers can be seen carrying [[FN Minimi|FN Minimis]] throughout the film, standing in for the [[FN Minimi|M249-E1 SAW]]. It is also the weapon used by Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) to accidentally deafen Nelson when he fires it too close to his head. The Minimis are also fitted with circular 200-round cloth ammo bags instead of hard plastic drums.

[[Image:M249 FN MINIMI DA-SC-85-11586 c1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN Minimi 5.56x45mm with 200-round ammo drum]]
[[Image:BHD-M249-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) with an FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHD-M249.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) firing his Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Twombley with his FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the charging handle rocking in slow motion on the FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) with his FN Minimi, yelling to Yurek about how they almost killed him]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his FN Minimi during the "Mogadishu Mile"]]

== M16A2 ==

SSG Matt Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Rangers armed, like most of them, with an [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]].

[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SSG Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Ranger team, many armed with M16A2s]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann firing his M16A2 at Somali militia as the Rangers make their way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Mike Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) fires his M16A2 while making his way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann fires his M16A2 during the rescue of SSG Busch. The pilot on the left is CWO Keith Jones, who was the pilot who rescued the real Busch during the actual event. It is evident from this shot that the lower receiver is that of an M16A1, not the A2, thus these rifles were built up on A1 lowers.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) with his M16A2 as the Rangers and Delta hold off the Somalia forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) switches between his M14 and an M16A2 as the Delta snipers defend their position at the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Probably the only Ranger in the film to fire bursts from his M16A2. Rangers are usually trained not to fire in bursts unless "they have a damn good reason", as quoted by several Drill Sergeants.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD1Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor in Delta clothes shows M16A2 in the movie armory.]]

== M14 Rifle ==
The [[M14 Rifle#M14 Rifle|M14 rifle]] is seen being used by Delta Force Sergeant First Class Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]), most notably when he and MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) are covering the second crash site. His M14 sports a camouflage paint scheme and an M68 Aimpoint scope.
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M21.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14. This shot appears to have been reversed. Note how the bolt and the battery slot on the Aimpoint is on the left side, not the right. Also see how Shughart and Gordon (off-shot) are right-handed in the other shots except for this one.]]
[[Image:BHD-M21-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart covers the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14 in defense of the second crash site.]]

==M16A1==
[[M16#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1]] rifles are seen in the Somali arms dealer's shop and one militia member is seen loading up one. At one point, Rangers can be seen watching a portion of the film ''[[The Jerk]]'' where a madman is trying to shoot the protagonist using a scoped M16A1.

[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M16A1 rifles hang in the dealer's shop along with M16A2s, likely captured from American forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moments before his epileptic seizure, LT Beales ([[Ioan Gruffudd]]) is watching a scene from ''[[The Jerk]]'' where the Madman ([[M. Emmet Walsh]]) is seen firing a scoped M16A1.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militiaman picks up an M16A1 with the flash hider removed and with a strange smooth ten round magazine.]]

==CETME==
Spanish [[CETME]] rifles are seen among the weapons in the arms dealer's shop, many of which are taken by the militia to combat the U.S. forces. They are not [[Heckler & Koch G3]]s, most notably because they have a simple fixed sight instead of a rear sight spindle.
[[Image:cetme.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Spanish CETME rifle chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Militia members pick up CETME rifles in the dealer's shop.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CETME rifles hanging next to the dealer.]]

== Heckler & Koch G3A3 ==

The local militia arm themselves with, among many other weapons, actual [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch G3A3]] assault rifles.

[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|G3A3 7.62x51mm NATO with green synthetic furniture]]
[[Image:BHD-G3A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member firing a G3A3 at the first MH-60K crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member takes cover from a Ranger's .50 caliber barrage armed with a G3A3.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member fires his G3A3.]]

== PKM Light Machine Gun ==

A [[PK Machine Gun|PKM light machine gun]] is seen resting on a table in the Somali arms dealer's shop.

[[Image:PKM-mg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PKM light machine gun 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PKM sits on the arms dealer's table]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of the PKM muzzle brake]]

==SVD Dragunov==
When Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) is in the Somali town, he passes the arms dealer, who has an [[SVD Dragunov]] on display.
[[Image:SVD Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SVD Dragunov - 7.62x54R.]]
[[Image:Bhd svd-edited.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An SVD Dragunov is seen behind Hoot. (Interesting anachronism here: the shades, Oakley Juliets, worn by actor Eric Bana did not exist during the events of this film.)]]

== RPK ==
One of the Somalis fires on Mike Durant's Black Hawk armed with an [[RPK light machine gun]]. Its blonde furniture indicates it could be a foreign copy. The machining divots in the receiver could help indicate its origins as well.
(the milled receiver, blonde wood, and the fact that the selector is in semi seem to suggest it is an Arsenal Bulgarian RPK, probably a US-made semi-auto variant)
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPK light machine gun 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDRPK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his RPK at the downed Black Hawk.]]

== RPG-7 ==

The Russian manufactured [[RPG-7]] features prominently in the film as the weapon which brings down a pair of UH-60 Blackhawks. In one scene inspired by an actual event, a projectile from an RPG-7 strikes PVT. Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]), the driver of one of the M-35 deuce and a half trucks in Lieutenant Colonel Danny McKnight ([[Tom Sizemore]])'s convoy and fails to detonate, impaling the luckless soldier instead.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 40mm]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RPG-7s being handed out by the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD-RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An antitank grenade being fired at a Black Hawk. It is obviously CGI, since there is no backblast.]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A milita member fires the RPG that takes down Super Six One, causing the first Blackhawk crash of the operation.]]
[[Image:BHDRPGhead.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An undetonated RPG warhead impales the deuce and a half driver, PFC Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]).]]

==Norinco Type 69==
Along with [[RPG-7]]s, Chinese [[RPG-7#Type 69|Norinco Type 69]] launchers are used by the militia.
[[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco Type 69 - 70mm.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69. Note how there is only one pistol grip and how he is holding the carry handle.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69.]]

== Norinco Type 56 ==
A full stock [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56]] is used by a Somali to whack Mike Durant in the head. It has a slanted AKM syle muzzle brake added on.
[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 with pig sticker type bayonet 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDType56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali smacks Mike Durant across the face with a Norinco Type 56.]]

== Norinco Type 56-1 ==

Nearly all of the Somali gunmen are armed with the [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56-1]] assault rifle, which is a Chinese derivative of the [[AK-47|AKS-47]]/[[AK-47#AKMS|AKMS]]. They are identified by the hooded front sights, which only Chinese Kalashnikov rifles have. At one point in the film, one of the soldiers can be seen removing the magazine from a discarded Type 56-1 and stuffing it in an empty pouch. Whether this was done to take back a souvenir or for some other reason is not known.

[[Image:Type56S.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A "Skinny" dies firing his Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Somali militiamen running with Type 56-1 rifles.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A round from this Norinco Type 56-1 causes the first KIA of the operation, SGT Dominic Pilla.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali kills SGT Joyce ([[Chris Beetem]]) with a shot to his back with a Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the hooded front sight on this Somali's 56-1.]]

== AKS-74U ==

Mo'alim ([[Razaaq Adoti]]), the Somali militia leader, carries an [[AKS-74U]] as his weapon of choice, first seen picking it up and inspecting it before heading into battle, then firing a burst into the air to break up the mob attacking one of the surviving Blackhawk pilots before announcing that he was to be taken alive as a prisoner.

[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK74.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim picks up and inspects an AKS-74U before heading into battle.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A clearer shot of the AKS-74U.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim with his AKS-74U.]]

== SPG-9 Recoilless Rifle ==

At one point in the film, Aidid's militia begin to bombard the building the majority of the Rangers and Deltas have taken cover in with mortars and an [[SPG-9 recoilless rifle]]. A group of Deltas led by Hoot soon kill the gunners and then turn the weapon against the militia, killing several with one shot.
[[Image:Spg-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SPG-9 recoiless rifle - 73mm]]
[[Image:BHD 010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aidid's militia prepare to fire the SPG-9 Recoilless on the Rangers and Deltas who are holed-up at the first crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD 012.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After eliminating the recoilless operators, Hoot and another Delta operator prepare to fire the SPG-9 recoilless rifle on the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD 009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) fires the recoilless rifle.]]

== AN/M14 Incendiary Grenade ==

There are several appearances in the film of [[AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]s; used by Deltas to destroy sensitive equipment at both Blackhawk crash sites, as well as to destroy the SPG-9 recoilless rifle mentioned above once Hoot and his team are done with it. Another one can be seen sitting on a table when Hoot is loading up.

[[Image:AN-M14 Incendiary Grenade.jpg|thumb|none|150px|AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AN/M14 incendiary grenade (far left) on a table]]

==Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher==
Many of the Rangers' [[M16 rifle series|M16A2s]] are fitted with [[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm Flare Launchers]], standing in for the [[M203 grenade launcher]]. Most notably seen in the hands of SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) of CPT Steele's ([[Jason Isaacs]]) unit. See flare launcher page for a guide on telling them apart.
[[Image:Coltflare.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher]] 37mm.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger behind CPT Steele is seen armed with an M16A2/CM203. Note the squared trigger guard and cocking bolt on the right side.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele gives the dying SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) his M16A2/CM203, ordering him to give anyone two in the chest and one in the head if they enter the door.]]

== M203 Grenade Launcher ==

While the [[Colt Flare Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm launchers]] are fitted on most of the Ranger's [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]] rifles, a couple of actual [[M203 grenade launcher]]s attached to [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2s]] are seen, the most notable of which is Specialist John Grimes ([[Ewan McGregor]]) who assists Delta in taking out a ''technical'' that has them pinned down, missing the first shot before destroying the vehicle with a High-Explosive Dual-Purpose (HEDP) grenade from his M203.

[[Image:M16A2 M203.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M203 grenade launcher 40mm mounted on M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes with his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger in Eversmann's unit armed with an M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-5.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M203 like a proper desk clerk, eyes closed.]]
[[Image:BlackHawk 6006.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|It seems that [[Ewan McGregor]] has never fired an M203, as his depiction of recoil is horrible.]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes ejects a spent 40mm grenade.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here the trigger guard appears to have been removed]]

== M1911A1 ==
We see the [[M1911A1]] pistol in the hands of the Delta operators as their sidearm of choice. As the two Delta snipers attempt to secure the second crash site they are forced to draw their M1911A1 pistols as the overwhelming Somali forces close in on them. Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) can be seen at the firing range with an M1911A1 near the beginning of the film.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) shows the Rangers what a .45 can do. (That is, better firepower at the cost of running out of ammunition twice as quickly.)]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MSG Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) fires his M1911A1 at the Somalis. At one point, his M1911A1 jams and the muzzle flashes are all CGI.]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) fires his M1911A1 while defending the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD-1911-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Despite being wounded, SFC Shughart continues to fire his M1911A1.]]
[[Image:BHD 015.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M1911A1 during the "Mogadishu Mile". It seems unlikely a well trained operator would wear his flight gloves like shown.]]
[[Image:Blackhawk11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of SGT Sanderson's M1911A1.]]

== Tokarev TT-33 ==

A Somali militiaman uses a [[Tokarev TT-33]] to kill SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) at the second crash site.
[[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali unloads his TT-33 into SFC Shughart]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the TT-33]]

== Beretta 92FS ==

The [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92FS]] pistol is seen a few times in the film in the hands of Rangers, and members of Lieutenant Colonel McKnight's convoy. Mainly it is seen in the hands of Maddox in the Humvee. McKnight himself carries his 92FS sidearm around as a proper means to defend himself.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:BHD-M9-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Humvee driver, Maddox ([[Michael Roof]]) fires his Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:BHDM9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McKnight is seen armed with his 92FS when walking away from a Ranger, blown in half by an RPG.]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5A3 ==

Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]), the MH-60 Black Hawk pilot of Super Six-Four, is armed with a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] with a slim handgrip and uses it to defend himself after he's shot down. The MP5 was briefly issued to helicopter crews as a personal defense weapon (PDW), but was discontinued in this role when it was determined its 9x19mm ammo lacked sufficient stopping power against armor-wearing or drug-crazed enemies, as was the case in Somalia. The guns is also briefly used by SFC Randy Shughart before being killed by the overwhelming militia.
In the book and real life, the weapons were actually [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|MP5K]]s. They were referred to as "Skinny Popper, a reference to the men's nickname for the Somalis.

[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm with slim handguard]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While trapped in his pilot seat, CWO3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) prepares to defend himself with his H&K MP5A3.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant fires his Heckler & Koch MP5A3 at the approaching Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHD 018.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant continues firing his H&K MP5A3 as the Delta snipers extract him from his downed Black Hawk.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) is firing the MP5A3 as he is shot.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD2Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor aims Durant's MP5 in movie armory. Note the other weapons behind him.]]

== Browning M2HB ==
The [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] heavy machine gun is fielded by the US Army on their HMMWVs, the U.N. forces on their APCs, and the Somali militia on their technicals in the film. The opening shots of the film feature Somali militiamen slaughtering a gathered crowd at a food distribution center with the powerful fifty-cal.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG in vehicle mounting]]
[[Image:BHD 022.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The opening shots of Black Hawk Down. Aidid's gunmen open fire on the crowd at the food distribution center with the Browning M2.]]
[[Image:BHD 025.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An Army Humvee with a Browning M2HB mounted on the roof, actually a rubber prop as shown when the barrel bounces when the Humvee goes over some bumps.]]
[[Image:BHD 001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Dominic Pilla ([[Danny Hoch]]) fires the M2HB from his Humvee as they evac an injured Ranger back to base.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) clearing the roof top of "skinnies" with an M2HB.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of Hoot firing the M2HB (Note that this was a movie blooper, since Hoot was actually wearing Nomex gloves.)]]
[[Image:BHDM2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mean-faced Somali awaits to fire on the Rangers with the M2HB.]]

== GE M134 Minigun ==

During the slaughter of the crowd, the U.S. forces hovering in the MH-60 aren't cleared to fire the [[GE M134 Minigun|Dillon Aero M134 minigun]]s mounted on their Black Hawk. Pylon-mounted miniguns, mounted alongside 2.75 rockets, are also carried by the AH-6 ''Little Birds'' and rain lead in several scenes.

[[Image:Minigun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Dillon Aero M134 with flash suppressor - 7.62x51mm NATO. These are new model M134 Miniguns or just updated GE Miniguns which are usually seen with a different spade grip mount that were used during the Vietnam War.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GE M134 with flash suppressor on the MH-60 Blackhawk as it transports Rangers and Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AH-6 "Little Bird" supplies close air support with its twin M134 miniguns.]]
[[Image:BHD 006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An MH-60 door gunner provides cover fire with an M134.]]
[[Image:BHDM134.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the M134 as it fires on RPG gunners.]]

== DShK Heavy Machine Gun ==

Several vehicle mounted Russian [[DShK heavy machine gun]]s appear in several scenes of the film.

[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Russian DShK 12.7x109mm]]
[[Image:BHD-DSHK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Somali militia leader on a DShK.]]
[[Image:BHD-DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A vehicle mounted DShK.]]

== M72 LAW ==

An Army Ranger, Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso, can be seen taking out a "technical" with an [[M72 LAW#|M72A3]]. The M72A3 was a Post Vietnam improved model of the M72 Rocket, and the last variation used by the U.S. Army. Upgrade versions (up to M72A7) of the LAW are being fielded by the U.S. Navy and USMC as recently as 2007.

[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW 66mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M72.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso takes aims at a technical.]]
[[Image:BHD-M72-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A 66mm rocket fired from an [[M72 LAW|M72A3 LAW]] mid-flight.]]

==Remington 870==
While never used on screen, SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) can be seen with a customized [[Remington 870]] Express Magnum (standing in for an 870 Police Magnum) slung over his right shoulder. A pistol grip (minus the folding stock) is used in place of the full stock. This same setup is used on a short 870 by [[Charlie Sheen]] in the movie ''[[Navy SEALs]]''.

In a deleted scene, SFC Sanderson uses the shotgun to blow the hinges on a door inside the target building.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceFolder.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with folding stock (One seen in the movie lacked the folding stock).]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson with his Remington 870 Express Magnum slung over his back. Note the full length barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of Sanderson's 870. Also a good shot of an M733 barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Receiver reads "Express Magnum" on Sanderson's 870. In real life it would have been a sturdier Police Magnum, not the cheaper, "economy priced" Express Magnum, though both are visually identical. The police magnum is the same shotgun, but built from stronger materials and has slightly different finish.]]

== M67 Hand Grenade ==

While loading up for the assault, Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) picks up [[M67 hand grenade|M67 fragmentation hand grenades]]. SFC Sanderson is later seen throwing one into a window to take out a Somali who has him and the Deltas and Rangers pinned down.

[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|225px|M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M67 Hand Grenades]]

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Black Hawk Down

2010-07-22T15:26:07Z

ThePinko49: /* Delta Customs */

'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Black Hawk Down''':''
[[Image:Black hawk down ver1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''[[Black Hawk Down]]'' (2001)]]

== Colt Commando ==

The Delta operators mainly wield the M727 and M733 variants of the [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando]]. The M727 variant is identified by its A2 upper receiver and 14.5" barrel with the cutout for mounting an M203 grenade launcher; the M733 has the shorter 11.5" barrel. Staff Sergeant Daniel Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) is the first Delta member on screen, and also the first soldier we see carrying an [[M16 rifle series#Colt Carbine/Model 653/Model 733|M727]]. All Delta members carry M727s and M733s, fitted with various accessories such as Aimpoint scopes and surefire flashlights. Master Sergeant Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) can be seen carrying an M733 featuring a camouflage paint scheme and a sound suppressor, which is then used by Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) to pick off several more Somalis before running out of ammunition and being overwhelmed.

[[Image:Coltm727ima.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt Model 727 5.56x45mm]]

===Delta Customs===
The Delta Force operators arm themselves differently from the Rangers by using customized Colt Model 727 and 733 rifles as opposed to longer, heavier M16A2 rifles. Many are fitted with such accessories as Aimpoint red dot scopes and Surefire tactical lights (with the pressure switch taped to the handguard with 100mph or electrical tape). Some of the Colts have camouflage paint schemes, and some of them are fitted with 14.5" barrels with M203 cuts (M727).
[[Image:BHD-M733.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SSG Busch ([[Richard Tyson]]) aims an M727 carbine at Somali militants raiding a Red Cross food distribution center while aboard a Blackhawk. Note the flashlight pressure switch taped to the handguard.]]
[[Image:BHD-M733-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M727 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) uses his M727 to shoot out of a Humvee window.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A wounded SSG Busch climbs out of his crashed Blackhawk and fires his M727 at the Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson fires his M727 during the "Mogadishu Mile".]]

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===Rangers===
While the Rangers are armed almost entirely with [[M16A2]] rifles, Captain Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) uses an M733 rifle, noted by the 11.5" barrel, with nothing modified or changed. SFC "Doc" Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) also uses an M733, presumably because as a medic, he would need a lighter, more versatile weapon to move quickly to wounded soldiers.
[[Image:Colt Model 733.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Model 733 with 11.5" Barrel (The Model 723 is the export model of the same weapon - used by forces of the UAE and US Delta Force) 5.56mm]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) with his M733 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele shows the Delta Operators you don't need a fancy scope to fire an M733. Iron sights.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Ranger medic SFC Schmid ([[Hugh Dancy]]) with his M733 in hand.]]

===Delta Sniper===
Delta Force MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) uses an [[M16_rifle_series#Colt_Carbine.2FModel_653.2FModel_727.2FModel_733|M733]] carbine modified with a camouflage paint scheme, Aimpoint scope, tactical light, and a sound suppressor. Shughart gives this rifle to the wounded Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant, who uses it before it runs out of ammo.
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) hovers above the second crash site with his suppressed M733.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gordon fires his suppressed M733 in defense of the crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDCommandoSuppressed-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mike Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) with Gordon's M733.]]

===CAR-15===
Some of the Deltas Operators are seen using [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series |Colt Commando CAR-15]] carbines with the original long type muzzle brake, which are also heavily customized. There is a high possibility they are built from several Commando types so a definite I.D. isn't certain unless the armorer can verify it.

[[Image:BHDXM177E2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with his CAR-15 rifle at the ready, right side.]]
[[Image:BHD 2006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta with a CAR-15.]]
[[Image:BHDXM177E2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator fires on a Somali .50 gunner with his CAR-15.]]

==Colt M4 carbine==
Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) seems to use an [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|Colt M4 carbine]] with the same customizations and paint job as the Commando rifles when doing solo operations in Somalia, noted by its removable carry handle. He uses it to shoot a wild boar from a chopper, and is chastised by CPT Steele ([[Jason Isaacs]]) for keeping the weapon's safety off in the barracks. One of the Deltas is also seen using an M4 carbine during the operation itself.

A bit of anachronism here, both the M4 and M4A1 entered service in 1994, a year after the events of this film (in 1993), so the M4 should technically not be in Hoot's hands. The probable reason was the fact that most of the earlier M16 Carbines are hard to come by, so they needed something to fill that gap.

[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4 carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHDM4-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Who's hungry?" Hoot readies his M4 carbine to shoot a wild boar. Note flashlight pressure switch attached to the handguards with electric tape. Also note that Hoot racks the action twice; once when he boards the chopper, and another time when he readies to shoot the boar.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CPT Steele points out to Hoot that, whether an undisciplined Delta Operator or not, his M4 carbine should be safeties-on in the barracks. Hoot replies, "This is my safety", and bends his index finger. Note the knobs on the carry handle used to remove it from the gun and custom pistol grip. Also note that this particular weapon is quite clearly a rubber prop version, which are normally used only for stunt work.]]
[[Image:BHDM4-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Delta operator breaches and clears with an M4 carbine in hand. Note the removable carry handle.]]

== M60 machine gun ==
Specialist Shawn Nelson ([[Ewen Bremner]]) can be seen carrying an [[M60 machine gun]] machine gun as his standard weapon. A mounted M60 is also seen and fired from at least one of the Humvees in the extraction convoy. Some of the Somalis can be seen using them as well.

[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M60.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-Blanks.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson with his M60, here clearly loaded with blanks.]]
[[Image:BHD-M60-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson fires his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nelson firing his M60.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires an M60 at the humvees.]]
[[Image:BHDM60E1-1-1-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his M60 at the Somalis.]]
===Special===
[[Image:DHD3Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta actor shows vehicle-mounted M60s.]]

== FN Minimi ==

Several Rangers can be seen carrying [[FN Minimi|FN Minimis]] throughout the film, standing in for the [[FN Minimi|M249-E1 SAW]]. It is also the weapon used by Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) to accidentally deafen Nelson when he fires it too close to his head. The Minimis are also fitted with circular 200-round cloth ammo bags instead of hard plastic drums.

[[Image:M249 FN MINIMI DA-SC-85-11586 c1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN Minimi 5.56x45mm with 200-round ammo drum]]
[[Image:BHD-M249-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) with an FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHD-M249.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PFC John Waddell ([[Ian Virgo]]) firing his Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Twombley with his FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the charging handle rocking in slow motion on the FN Minimi]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Specialist Lance Twombly ([[Tom Hardy]]) with his FN Minimi, yelling to Yurek about how they almost killed him]]
[[Image:BHDMinimi-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger fires his FN Minimi during the "Mogadishu Mile"]]

== M16A2 ==

SSG Matt Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Rangers armed, like most of them, with an [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]].

[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SSG Eversmann ([[Josh Hartnett]]) leads his Ranger team, many armed with M16A2s]]
[[Image:BHD-M16-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann firing his M16A2 at Somali militia as the Rangers make their way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Mike Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) fires his M16A2 while making his way to the first Blackhawk crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Eversmann fires his M16A2 during the rescue of SSG Busch. The pilot on the left is CWO Keith Jones, who was the pilot who rescued the real Busch during the actual event. It is evident from this shot that the lower receiver is that of an M16A1, not the A2, thus these rifles were built up on A1 lowers.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Goodale ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) with his M16A2 as the Rangers and Delta hold off the Somalia forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) switches between his M14 and an M16A2 as the Delta snipers defend their position at the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Probably the only Ranger in the film to fire bursts from his M16A2. Rangers are usually trained not to fire in bursts unless "they have a damn good reason", as quoted by several Drill Sergeants.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD1Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor in Delta clothes shows M16A2 in the movie armory.]]

== M14 Rifle ==
The [[M14 Rifle#M14 Rifle|M14 rifle]] is seen being used by Delta Force Sergeant First Class Randy Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]), most notably when he and MSG Gary Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) are covering the second crash site. His M14 sports a camouflage paint scheme and an M68 Aimpoint scope.
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BHD-M21.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14. This shot appears to have been reversed. Note how the bolt and the battery slot on the Aimpoint is on the left side, not the right. Also see how Shughart and Gordon (off-shot) are right-handed in the other shots except for this one.]]
[[Image:BHD-M21-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart covers the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDM14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart fires his M14 in defense of the second crash site.]]

==M16A1==
[[M16#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1]] rifles are seen in the Somali arms dealer's shop and one militia member is seen loading up one. At one point, Rangers can be seen watching a portion of the film ''[[The Jerk]]'' where a madman is trying to shoot the protagonist using a scoped M16A1.

[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M16A1 rifles hang in the dealer's shop along with M16A2s, likely captured from American forces.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Moments before his epileptic seizure, LT Beales ([[Ioan Gruffudd]]) is watching a scene from ''[[The Jerk]]'' where the Madman ([[M. Emmet Walsh]]) is seen firing a scoped M16A1.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militiaman picks up an M16A1 with the flash hider removed and with a strange smooth ten round magazine.]]

==CETME==
Spanish [[CETME]] rifles are seen among the weapons in the arms dealer's shop, many of which are taken by the militia to combat the U.S. forces. They are not [[Heckler & Koch G3]]s, most notably because they have a simple fixed sight instead of a rear sight spindle.
[[Image:cetme.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Spanish CETME rifle chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Militia members pick up CETME rifles in the dealer's shop.]]
[[Image:BHDCETME-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|CETME rifles hanging next to the dealer.]]

== Heckler & Koch G3A3 ==

The local militia arm themselves with, among many other weapons, actual [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch G3A3]] assault rifles.

[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|G3A3 7.62x51mm NATO with green synthetic furniture]]
[[Image:BHD-G3A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member firing a G3A3 at the first MH-60K crash site.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali militia member takes cover from a Ranger's .50 caliber barrage armed with a G3A3.]]
[[Image:BHDG3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member fires his G3A3.]]

== PKM Light Machine Gun ==

A [[PK Machine Gun|PKM light machine gun]] is seen resting on a table in the Somali arms dealer's shop.

[[Image:PKM-mg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|PKM light machine gun 7.62x54mm R]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A PKM sits on the arms dealer's table]]
[[Image:BHDMAG58-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of the PKM muzzle brake]]

==SVD Dragunov==
When Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) is in the Somali town, he passes the arms dealer, who has an [[SVD Dragunov]] on display.
[[Image:SVD Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SVD Dragunov - 7.62x54R.]]
[[Image:Bhd svd-edited.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An SVD Dragunov is seen behind Hoot. (Interesting anachronism here: the shades, Oakley Juliets, worn by actor Eric Bana did not exist during the events of this film.)]]

== RPK ==
One of the Somalis fires on Mike Durant's Black Hawk armed with an [[RPK light machine gun]]. Its blonde furniture indicates it could be a foreign copy. The machining divots in the receiver could help indicate its origins as well.
(the milled receiver, blonde wood, and the fact that the selector is in semi seem to suggest it is an Arsenal Bulgarian RPK, probably a US-made semi-auto variant)
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPK light machine gun 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDRPK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his RPK at the downed Black Hawk.]]

== RPG-7 ==

The Russian manufactured [[RPG-7]] features prominently in the film as the weapon which brings down a pair of UH-60 Blackhawks. In one scene inspired by an actual event, a projectile from an RPG-7 strikes PVT. Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]), the driver of one of the M-35 deuce and a half trucks in Lieutenant Colonel Danny McKnight ([[Tom Sizemore]])'s convoy and fails to detonate, impaling the luckless soldier instead.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 40mm]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|RPG-7s being handed out by the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD-RPG7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An antitank grenade being fired at a Black Hawk. It is obviously CGI, since there is no backblast.]]
[[Image:BHDRPG7-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A milita member fires the RPG that takes down Super Six One, causing the first Blackhawk crash of the operation.]]
[[Image:BHDRPGhead.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An undetonated RPG warhead impales the deuce and a half driver, PFC Kowalewski ([[Brendan Sexton III]]).]]

==Norinco Type 69==
Along with [[RPG-7]]s, Chinese [[RPG-7#Type 69|Norinco Type 69]] launchers are used by the militia.
[[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco Type 69 - 70mm.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69. Note how there is only one pistol grip and how he is holding the carry handle.]]
[[Image:BHDNorincoType69-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A militia member with a Type 69.]]

== Norinco Type 56 ==
A full stock [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56]] is used by a Somali to whack Mike Durant in the head. It has a slanted AKM syle muzzle brake added on.
[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 with pig sticker type bayonet 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:BHDType56.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali smacks Mike Durant across the face with a Norinco Type 56.]]

== Norinco Type 56-1 ==

Nearly all of the Somali gunmen are armed with the [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56-1]] assault rifle, which is a Chinese derivative of the [[AK-47|AKS-47]]/[[AK-47#AKMS|AKMS]]. They are identified by the hooded front sights, which only Chinese Kalashnikov rifles have. At one point in the film, one of the soldiers can be seen removing the magazine from a discarded Type 56-1 and stuffing it in an empty pouch. Whether this was done to take back a souvenir or for some other reason is not known.

[[Image:Type56S.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A "Skinny" dies firing his Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHD-AK47-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Somali militiamen running with Type 56-1 rifles.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A round from this Norinco Type 56-1 causes the first KIA of the operation, SGT Dominic Pilla.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali fires his 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali kills SGT Joyce ([[Chris Beetem]]) with a shot to his back with a Type 56-1.]]
[[Image:BHDType56-1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the hooded front sight on this Somali's 56-1.]]

== AKS-74U ==

Mo'alim ([[Razaaq Adoti]]), the Somali militia leader, carries an [[AKS-74U]] as his weapon of choice, first seen picking it up and inspecting it before heading into battle, then firing a burst into the air to break up the mob attacking one of the surviving Blackhawk pilots before announcing that he was to be taken alive as a prisoner.

[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:BHD-AK74.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim picks up and inspects an AKS-74U before heading into battle.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A clearer shot of the AKS-74U.]]
[[Image:BHDAKS-74U-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mo'alim with his AKS-74U.]]

== SPG-9 Recoilless Rifle ==

At one point in the film, Aidid's militia begin to bombard the building the majority of the Rangers and Deltas have taken cover in with mortars and an [[SPG-9 recoilless rifle]]. A group of Deltas led by Hoot soon kill the gunners and then turn the weapon against the militia, killing several with one shot.
[[Image:Spg-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SPG-9 recoiless rifle - 73mm]]
[[Image:BHD 010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aidid's militia prepare to fire the SPG-9 Recoilless on the Rangers and Deltas who are holed-up at the first crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD 012.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After eliminating the recoilless operators, Hoot and another Delta operator prepare to fire the SPG-9 recoilless rifle on the militia.]]
[[Image:BHD 009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) fires the recoilless rifle.]]

== AN/M14 Incendiary Grenade ==

There are several appearances in the film of [[AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]s; used by Deltas to destroy sensitive equipment at both Blackhawk crash sites, as well as to destroy the SPG-9 recoilless rifle mentioned above once Hoot and his team are done with it. Another one can be seen sitting on a table when Hoot is loading up.

[[Image:AN-M14 Incendiary Grenade.jpg|thumb|none|150px|AN/M14 incendiary grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AN/M14 incendiary grenade (far left) on a table]]

==Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher==
Many of the Rangers' [[M16 rifle series|M16A2s]] are fitted with [[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm Flare Launchers]], standing in for the [[M203 grenade launcher]]. Most notably seen in the hands of SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) of CPT Steele's ([[Jason Isaacs]]) unit. See flare launcher page for a guide on telling them apart.
[[Image:Coltflare.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher]] 37mm.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger behind CPT Steele is seen armed with an M16A2/CM203. Note the squared trigger guard and cocking bolt on the right side.]]
[[Image:BHDColtFlare-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steele gives the dying SGT Ruiz ([[Enrique Murciano]]) his M16A2/CM203, ordering him to give anyone two in the chest and one in the head if they enter the door.]]

== M203 Grenade Launcher ==

While the [[Colt Flare Launcher|Cobray CM203 37mm launchers]] are fitted on most of the Ranger's [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]] rifles, a couple of actual [[M203 grenade launcher]]s attached to [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2s]] are seen, the most notable of which is Specialist John Grimes ([[Ewan McGregor]]) who assists Delta in taking out a ''technical'' that has them pinned down, missing the first shot before destroying the vehicle with a High-Explosive Dual-Purpose (HEDP) grenade from his M203.

[[Image:M16A2 M203.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M203 grenade launcher 40mm mounted on M16A2 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BHDM203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes with his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHDM203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Ranger in Eversmann's unit armed with an M16A2/M203]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-5.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes fires his M203 like a proper desk clerk, eyes closed.]]
[[Image:BlackHawk 6006.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|It seems that [[Ewan McGregor]] has never fired an M203, as his depiction of recoil is horrible.]]
[[Image:BHD-M203-2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Grimes ejects a spent 40mm grenade.]]
[[Image:BHDM16A2-M203-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here the trigger guard appears to have been removed]]

== M1911A1 ==
We see the [[M1911A1]] pistol in the hands of the Delta operators as their sidearm of choice. As the two Delta snipers attempt to secure the second crash site they are forced to draw their M1911A1 pistols as the overwhelming Somali forces close in on them. Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) can be seen at the firing range with an M1911A1 near the beginning of the film.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force MSG Wex ([[Kim Coates]]) shows the Rangers what a .45 can do. (That is, better firepower at the cost of running out of ammunition twice as quickly.)]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MSG Gordon ([[Nikolaj Coster-Waldau]]) fires his M1911A1 at the Somalis. At one point, his M1911A1 jams and the muzzle flashes are all CGI.]]
[[Image:BHDM1911A1shugart.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) fires his M1911A1 while defending the second crash site.]]
[[Image:BHD-1911-4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Despite being wounded, SFC Shughart continues to fire his M1911A1.]]
[[Image:BHD 015.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Delta Force SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) fires his M1911A1 during the "Mogadishu Mile". It seems unlikely a well trained operator would wear his flight gloves like shown.]]
[[Image:Blackhawk11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of SGT Sanderson's M1911A1.]]

== Tokarev TT-33 ==

A Somali militiaman uses a [[Tokarev TT-33]] to kill SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) at the second crash site.
[[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Somali unloads his TT-33 into SFC Shughart]]
[[Image:BHDTT33-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of the TT-33]]

== Beretta 92FS ==

The [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta 92FS]] pistol is seen a few times in the film in the hands of Rangers, and members of Lieutenant Colonel McKnight's convoy. Mainly it is seen in the hands of Maddox in the Humvee. McKnight himself carries his 92FS sidearm around as a proper means to defend himself.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 92FS 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:BHD-M9-3.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Humvee driver, Maddox ([[Michael Roof]]) fires his Beretta 92FS.]]
[[Image:BHDM9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McKnight is seen armed with his 92FS when walking away from a Ranger, blown in half by an RPG.]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5A3 ==

Chief Warrant Officer 3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]), the MH-60 Black Hawk pilot of Super Six-Four, is armed with a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] with a slim handgrip and uses it to defend himself after he's shot down. The MP5 was briefly issued to helicopter crews as a personal defense weapon (PDW), but was discontinued in this role when it was determined its 9x19mm ammo lacked sufficient stopping power against armor-wearing or drug-crazed enemies, as was the case in Somalia. The guns is also briefly used by SFC Randy Shughart before being killed by the overwhelming militia.
In the book and real life, the weapons were actually [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|MP5K]]s. They were referred to as "Skinny Popper, a reference to the men's nickname for the Somalis.

[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm with slim handguard]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While trapped in his pilot seat, CWO3 Michael Durant ([[Ron Eldard]]) prepares to defend himself with his H&K MP5A3.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant fires his Heckler & Koch MP5A3 at the approaching Somalis.]]
[[Image:BHD 018.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Durant continues firing his H&K MP5A3 as the Delta snipers extract him from his downed Black Hawk.]]
[[Image:BHDMP5A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SFC Shughart ([[Johnny Strong]]) is firing the MP5A3 as he is shot.]]
===Special===
[[Image:BHD2Arm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An actor aims Durant's MP5 in movie armory. Note the other weapons behind him.]]

== Browning M2HB ==
The [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB]] heavy machine gun is fielded by the US Army on their HMMWVs, the U.N. forces on their APCs, and the Somali militia on their technicals in the film. The opening shots of the film feature Somali militiamen slaughtering a gathered crowd at a food distribution center with the powerful fifty-cal.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG in vehicle mounting]]
[[Image:BHD 022.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The opening shots of Black Hawk Down. Aidid's gunmen open fire on the crowd at the food distribution center with the Browning M2.]]
[[Image:BHD 025.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|An Army Humvee with a Browning M2HB mounted on the roof, actually a rubber prop as shown when the barrel bounces when the Humvee goes over some bumps.]]
[[Image:BHD 001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Dominic Pilla ([[Danny Hoch]]) fires the M2HB from his Humvee as they evac an injured Ranger back to base.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) clearing the roof top of "skinnies" with an M2HB.]]
[[Image:BHDM2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up of Hoot firing the M2HB (Note that this was a movie blooper, since Hoot was actually wearing Nomex gloves.)]]
[[Image:BHDM2-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mean-faced Somali awaits to fire on the Rangers with the M2HB.]]

== GE M134 Minigun ==

During the slaughter of the crowd, the U.S. forces hovering in the MH-60 aren't cleared to fire the [[GE M134 Minigun|Dillon Aero M134 minigun]]s mounted on their Black Hawk. Pylon-mounted miniguns, mounted alongside 2.75 rockets, are also carried by the AH-6 ''Little Birds'' and rain lead in several scenes.

[[Image:Minigun.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Dillon Aero M134 with flash suppressor - 7.62x51mm NATO. These are new model M134 Miniguns or just updated GE Miniguns which are usually seen with a different spade grip mount that were used during the Vietnam War.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A GE M134 with flash suppressor on the MH-60 Blackhawk as it transports Rangers and Deltas.]]
[[Image:BHD-M134-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An AH-6 "Little Bird" supplies close air support with its twin M134 miniguns.]]
[[Image:BHD 006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An MH-60 door gunner provides cover fire with an M134.]]
[[Image:BHDM134.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the M134 as it fires on RPG gunners.]]

== DShK Heavy Machine Gun ==

Several vehicle mounted Russian [[DShK heavy machine gun]]s appear in several scenes of the film.

[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Russian DShK 12.7x109mm]]
[[Image:BHD-DSHK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Somali militia leader on a DShK.]]
[[Image:BHD-DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A vehicle mounted DShK.]]

== M72 LAW ==

An Army Ranger, Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso, can be seen taking out a "technical" with an [[M72 LAW#|M72A3]]. The M72A3 was a Post Vietnam improved model of the M72 Rocket, and the last variation used by the U.S. Army. Upgrade versions (up to M72A7) of the LAW are being fielded by the U.S. Navy and USMC as recently as 2007.

[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW 66mm]]
[[Image:BHD-M72.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso takes aims at a technical.]]
[[Image:BHD-M72-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A 66mm rocket fired from an [[M72 LAW|M72A3 LAW]] mid-flight.]]

==Remington 870==
While never used on screen, SFC Sanderson ([[William Fichtner]]) can be seen with a customized [[Remington 870]] Express Magnum (standing in for an 870 Police Magnum) slung over his right shoulder. A pistol grip (minus the folding stock) is used in place of the full stock. This same setup is used on a short 870 by [[Charlie Sheen]] in the movie ''[[Navy SEALs]]''.

In a deleted scene, SFC Sanderson uses the shotgun to blow the hinges on a door inside the target building.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceFolder.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Remington 870 Police Magnum with folding stock (One seen in the movie lacked the folding stock).]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sanderson with his Remington 870 Express Magnum slung over his back. Note the full length barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of Sanderson's 870. Also a good shot of an M733 barrel.]]
[[Image:BHDRem870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Receiver reads "Express Magnum" on Sanderson's 870. In real life it would have been a sturdier Police Magnum, not the cheaper, "economy priced" Express Magnum, though both are visually identical. The police magnum is the same shotgun, but built from stronger materials and has slightly different finish.]]

== M67 Hand Grenade ==

While loading up for the assault, Hoot ([[Eric Bana]]) picks up [[M67 hand grenade|M67 fragmentation hand grenades]]. SFC Sanderson is later seen throwing one into a window to take out a Somali who has him and the Deltas and Rangers pinned down.

[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|225px|M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:BHD-M67.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M67 Hand Grenades]]

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== What about other weapons ? ==
Youre a rulemaker and your nickname is a name of not a firearm, but a sword (that's really good), so your opinion is needful in such a kind of situation.
This site is great database, i really enjoy it, but i think that readers can be intersted in some other kinds of weapons beside the firearms (knives, bows, swords, tools, usual objects used as a weapon etc.). Is it possible to do section "Other weapons" for those intersted geeks like me ? I done one in my [[Mr. Bean (TV series)]] article, but [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] and [[User:SB2296|SB2296]] saying, that such information would be best to keep in the discussion page. What do you think about it? There's no other wiki site about movie weapons on the web, so, i think that such information must be here, on the pages. P.S. Sorry if i've got a mistakes in my writing - i'm from Ukraine actually. P.P.S. Also sorry that i wrote you a message mostly identical to the ones i wrote to [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] and [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 14:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Question ==
You say that your guns is airsoft. Always wanted to ask someone, who knows about weapons, can cheap chinese plastic toys, that copys real life weapons and firing 6mm "BB bullet" (little plastic roundy thing)count as an airsoft guns, or it's just a toy and only those weapons, that used to play a game named "strikeball" can be named "airsoft guns" ? --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 14:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

==Extra work on the SG-1 page==

Hey, I really like all the work you've done to make the SG-1 page into a comprehensive list of all the weapons that have appeared on the show. However, I must ask...would you be OK if I did some extra work on it just to make it a little less taxing on the eyes? When you have lots and lots of screenshots, it's usually a good idea to make them into thumbnails on the page so that they don't wind up being an eyesore.

Additionally, I'd also recommend you add episode info to each screenshot (if you've got it), as well as pictures of the guns from our archive so that anyone browsing this site will have something to compare it to. See what I've done on the section for the very first gun on the page (the Beretta M9) as an ex of what I mean.

-If you want to make the page better, go right ahead. I had no problems with the size of some of the pics cause I think it draws attention, but if you think it is better a little smaller, go right ahead. I'm still new to the wiki editting, so I don't know how to do everything.

==SG-1 Screenshots==

GREAT WORK! on the SG1 screen shots. I just wish more people knew how to do great screen shots and put them in the pages. It really makes the page great! BTW: I will be doing more custom gun photographs soon and I will be photographing my own USAS-12 with both stick and drum magazines in place. I try to grab as many real movie guns from my own inventory (plus guns from the inventory of professional colleagues as I can), but they're in the biz of making movies and get annoyed with me sometimes, since I always want to take softbox photos of their guns against a white background. I will GET shots of the actual guns from T-2 perhaps in a month when I get a chance. Great WORK on the SG1 pics!
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==SG-1 guns==

Hi,

Your pages for the Stargate movies and TV show are really awesome! Thanks for all the hard work you've put in! I wish I could do the same, except my POS laptop has been really acting up lately and I literally can't play any of my DVDs on it right now.

Anyway, I just thought I'd help out with some extra details, in case you find them relevant:

*(1.) Most of the M16A2s on ''SG1'', especially in the early seasons, are actually M16A1s that have been fitted with A2-style handguards. You can tell because they have A1-style receivers which lack the brass deflector and the elevation-adjustable rear sight (look closely at the rifle in the top picture, for instance). A few of them (usually in non-firing scenes) are actually civilian AR15 SP1s which lack even the forward assist and the magazine fencing.

*(2.) I believe the AKs used by the Russian SG team are actually Norinco Type 84s, which is a Chinese AK variant that fires 5.56x45mm. In the show, they seem to be fitted with AK74-style folding stocks and muzzle breaks, but the design of the magazine (steel and ribbed, not plastic like the real AK74) gives them away.

*(3.) The AKs used by the Hondurans are a Yugoslav copy called the [[Zastava M70|Zastava M70B]].

*(4.) Many of the M203s on ''SG1'' are look-a-like 37mm Colt flare launchers, which is very common in many movies and TV shows when they don't want to spend the money - or go through the legal difficulties - of getting real M203s (which are NFA-regulated items).

*(5.) As far as the "Carter Special" (the little AR with the thumbhole stock) goes, the picture you posted to illustrate it is an airsoft replica. The guy who built it (for that "Stargate6.com" site that doesn't work anymore) once posted about it on Airsoft Retreat, years ago now. Somebody else actually built a real one, except that it was semi-auto only and had been registered as an SBR in that person's state. I wish so much that I remember where the hell I saw/heard about it! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Contributions to IMFDB response==
It says one of your contributions is Flashpoint. Respectively, I'd like to mention I've listed almost every gun on their and every picture, screenshots and all to the page. No offense of course, but I have to brag to someone :). I cleaned up you profile page, hope you don't mind.

::Alright, you did a lot of listing and then some pictures, but I also did some additions as well as add my own pictures. I mean, the series is pretty new, at the 4th episode and I named about 3 weapons and uploaded a handful of pictures. I think that much work than minor additions deserves to be "contributions" than on just "minor" additions. I mean if the series was complete and there is always a pretty complete page with photos and I jumped in and added my own, then yeah, that's a minor addition. But since I am doing my best with this new series since it's hard to find screenshots, I think I deserve a mention.

==Your pages==
We all love your pages, you make them well, but can you please put them in proper format? Copy it from another page if you must, because it's hard work changing it for you. I just finished doing it with the Gone in 60 seconds page, and then you bring up another. And don't forget to add stock pictures of the gun itself. That's why they have gun pictures for use on the site. I'm not trying to argue or anything but putting the pages into proper format is difficult with another person's page. By putting something in "thumb" format, you make the picture with a nice looking frame, and yoo can add a caption under it. I put your pic size at 500px because I figured you like the shots big(I do 400px). Also, the poster looks nice when you move it to the right. after each picture type in:

(double brackets)Image:whateverpicis.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Caption to describe picture(double brackets)
And for poster, instead of "none", type "right" to move it to the right.
Keep up the good work. -GM

::I'll work on it all right away

==Flashpoint==
Thank you so much for uploading screencapps for the page, I was afraid I'd have to see pictureless "Unknown" guns on the page the whole time until the DVDs came out. your shots look great. I would have kept doing it, but my screencapping system died, and I missed so many episodes, they stopped playing some on the CBS site, and I'd missed too many, and figured I'd just wait for the DVDs.

Okay, seriopusly man, why do you keep deleting The HK USP, im gonna go put it back up. Sorry if youy missed it, no need to delete it.

==The Unit==
The High Standard HDM is a maybe, the ruger II is a definate no. The gun clearly has a flat top and the slide is open top and in full. A Ruger has a concealed slide inside the gun with nothing but the toggle knobs visible. It may be a S&W 46, but it is hard to tell.

That is/was an M60E4/Mk43 Mod 1. The GPMG is used by the SEALS and by the 5th SFG in "real life" so it would be logical for it to be in the Unit's inventory alongside the H&K 416. The addition of so many rails to the thing almost obliterates the classic outlines of the M60 (that and a major reworking of the feed system). Besides with Dennis Haysbert's size...the thing probably would look like a SAW. - [[Charon68]]

==Cartoons==

I'm a bit torn on the matter. On the one hand, I agree that it's easy to get carried away with cartoons, which are basically not intended to be serious and rarely focus upon guns (the way action movies do). However, it is true that some cartoonists ''are'' actually gun guys and depict guns pretty realistically in their shows. Most seasons of ''[[South Park]]'', for instance, feature very detailed images of M16A1s, SPAS-12s, S&W 5904/06, and a bullpup rifle similar to the G36 that were obviously intended to duplicate the real guns. In cases like that, I think it ''could'' be argued that the creators actually did show an attempt to depict guns realistically.

On the other hand, whoever made the ''[[South Park]]'' page really should have put more effort into it. It's kinda lazy to do what they did. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Got a gift for ya==
figured you could use a shot of a PSG01 with a 20 round mag in it. You sure won't find one on the net ... ;) So I made sure I popped in a 20 when I shot my PSG01. ;) Let me know if you can use it for your "The Unit" page....

[[Image:H&KPSG01LongMag.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
This is a crock of shit and you know it is. Just because you have SOME power and some little shitty site mean that you have ALL the power and you know everything. Its fucking Facebook. There are loads of "official" facebook groups that arnt made by the company and they dont give a fuck. If they did they'd be blocked wouldnt they? Yes! And how the fuck is it Endangering IMFDB??? It doesnt affect imfdb you fucking moron. It has NOTHING to do with this group at all. Your group is that small that no one, except for a few slack jawed yokels care about it. Guns! come on. Your kidding no-one with your brovado. Your full of shit! Just because you live with your mum and dad at 35 and masturate over your dads gun collection, dont try and be so tyranical with your powers. Lol powers. I feel ashamed t say that. Fuck all powers LOL. Purge! Is this the 16th century or somthing! Why ahve you called youself Excalibur when this is a gun site! And one final but ironic point is, have you asked yourself but have you got all the rights to everything that you write on here? Have you gone to every company and asked them that you can use there information on here. Have you fucking. Your a fucking hypocrite. Trying to be righteous. I hope that this wikia does get shut down because your power hungry and too idiotic to run a site at all. Your really are a sad little (well large) person who needs to get out more and Mean REAL people. Not playing World of War craft all day or watching your pedoish animia in your room. I hope you can get a life on day you large bitched titted lard arsed cunt. I only joined this group it insult you :). I hope you enjoy this Yanky boy!

Lots of Love

Pinko

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <3

==??==
Why are you thanking MT2008 for the PSG pic? ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:09, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps==

Hi,

I appreciate you providing screencaps for movies such as ''[[Pineapple Express]]''. But...I have some reservations. I know your screencaps would have to be from a bootleg AVI or MPEG file, since the movie isn't out on DVD or Blu Ray yet. I am a bit concerned that if studio spies were prowling the net for stuff like this, they might come upon your screencaps and we'd get in trouble.

I will not delete the shots you've already uploaded, but in the future, I'd prefer that you didn't upload screenshots from movies that haven't come out on DVD yet, just in case we get in trouble. Plus, the DVD will always be superior quality, anyway. That is all.

Cheers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:38, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

:Well, I dunno if you saw, but when ''[[The Incredible Hulk (2008)|The Incredible Hulk]]'' came out on DVD, I screencapped it all over again.

:Like I said, when a movie isn't out on DVD yet, the studios will know if they see screenshots on here that they could only have come from a bootleg. So yeah, like I said, please don't post screenshots of movies not out on DVD. I just don't think it's such a good idea. But the ''[[Pineapple Express]]'' shots you've got can stay.

:Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:44, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

::Sorry, man. Don't take it personally; it's just that I'm worried it might invite unwanted attention. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

:::That is a good question. The answer is, basically not. Technically, posting screencaps from DVDs - even those you've bought - falls within particular intellectual property infringements, but in practice, these have largely gone unenforced.

:::Downloading a bootleg copy of a movie, however, is another issue entirely. If you post screenshots from a movie that isn't out on DVD, you might as well be advertising that you were bootlegging. I'd just prefer we didn't do it, but this is perhaps a matter worth discussing with Bunni. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== ''Sara Connor Chronicles'' "Unknown Gun" ==

Hey, just took a look at the pistol you have listed as an "Unknown Gun" on the ''[[Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles]]'' page. I'm not exactly sure what kind it is, though it does appear to be a Smith & Wesson semi-auto of some sort. It looks the most like a [[Smith & Wesson 4000 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 4506|Smith & Wesson 4506]], but the squared trigger guard looks like that on the [[Smith & Wesson 5900 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 5906|Smith & Wesson 5906]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 08:26, 21 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==Tropic Thunder==
Please stop changing my DVD cover on Tropic Thunder. That picture was personally photocopied and uploaded by me and is currently the only version of that cover on the internet. Plus, it depicts what DVD I used, which I always do when I make a page. Since I went through all the trouble to screencap the movie, I think I'm entitled to at least keep the cover I want. -GM

==Re:John Woo quote==

No, sorry, I'm afraid I don't know, but I would like to be able to add quotes myself. The one you've chosen is a good one; another one I like is "Give the guy a gun, he thinks he's Superman. Give him and he thinks he's God", which is from ''[[Hard Boiled]]''. But we should find out...

BTW, please sign your talk page posts by hitting "~" four times in a row (no spaces). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:07, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:Full Metal Panic==

It looks great! Very thorough...though, of course, I recommend as usual adding links to the pages for each gun. :) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

==RE:E==
Great job with the page (did you figure out how to crop the widescreen shots mid-way?). When I had first seen the movie, I wasn't a capper yet. I'm stumped on the SMG but I'm sure MT or MPM will know or find out (I'll check some of my sources if they don't know). I'll be working on the Dark Knight some more. Let me know if you need anymore help.

And with Taurus to Beretta, basically all Berettas except the first model 92 (seen in [[Hotel Rwanda]] have decocking safeties. The 92S has a rounded trigger and a right decocker. The 92SB has rounded trigger and ambi decocker. The Beretta 92F and FS are visually the same but have a squared trigger guard and an ambi decocker.

Now the have always had frame mounted slide stop safeties like 1911s. Most have ambidextrous frame safeties. The squared trigger guard is slightly more rounded (still reversed curve, but softer). The AF models are more recent and newer looking (they have widened cocking serations). For I.Ding, that's about the basics of it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Flash Animations==
I don't even like anime all that much let alone flash animations. The only way I'd except them is if he went through the work of screencapping them. And I doubt he'll do that. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I'm getting tired of these flash animation pages myself. Time to put this trend to rest.

:I like the RE: Extinction page, though of course I must remind you to add links to the gun pages. I think you are right that the Polish subgun must be one of the newer variations, but I knew I recognized the receiver shape when I saw it.

:Also, thanks for ditching the images from the ''[[Tunnel Rats]]'' pages; I will delete them soon. I have been meaning to for a while, but I must admit I hesitated. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::Let me rephrase, I don't like the animes that have guns that look nothing like real guns in which people guess. Those are annoying. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::Yeah, the professionally done anime deserves to be included on this site. I know those guys make a serious attempt to draw guns as realistically as possible (I believe they use airsoft guns as their references, but still, give 'em credit for making do with what they have, since Japan's gun laws are so strict). Cartoons like ''[[Family Guy]]'' are a bit of a stretch, but at least it's a professionally-done TV series, and at least they do make some attempt at realistic guns (i.e. the obvious XM8s in one episode).

::I appreciate you deleting the images, but to be fair, I dunno if I have a problem with low-quality DVD rips per se. When I was a new user here, I did plenty of pages with those myself (nowadays, I mostly use DVDs and iTunes movie rentals). Main reason I was nervous about ''[[Pineapple Express]]'' was that it was a big movie, and some studio spy might see our page, and he would know it was a bootleg because the movie wasn't out on DVD when the page was screencapped. MoviePropMaster agreed with me on that. Of course, ''[[Tunnel Rats]]'' is a Uwe Boll movie, which means nobody should get upset if it's bootlegged (that dude doesn't deserve to make money off his movies at all). But that's beside the point...-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Resident Evil: Extinction ==

Hey, nice work on Resident Evil: Extinction, it looks like GM45 answered your questions. Anyway, as for Flash Animations, I have to agree with you and everyone else. Flash animations don't belong here, anyone can basically create crude animations and shapes with flash. Plus, other users will probably see pages like that, and think they'll be able to put up their stupid airsoft movies. Also, if you want, I could you give an admin recommendation to the head of the site so you can get rid of pages like that without having to wait around for someone else, let me know if you would like to become a mod.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:57, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:::First of all, it's kinda weird to be talking about him in third-person, since he can read our talk pages. LOL. Anyway, I don't think we were too harsh. The admins agree that flash animations don't qualify for IMFDB inclusion, and we make/enforce the law. Of course, the law hasn't been written, so I see no need to get angry at somebody for being ignorant of something that they couldn't have known. But I guess I ''would'' expect common sense to take over where law is non-existent...oh, well.

:::I do agree with you that DVD rips should generally not be used. I have not and will not use them anymore for any new pages I make - I now use mostly iTunes rentals (which are pretty high-quality). Just not sure we should necessarily reject/ban their use. Anyway, all of this is stuff I need to articulate in the IMFDB "constitution" which I hope to write soon. I apologize for not getting it done sooner, but between working 45-hour weeks and trying to get myself into M.A. programs, I have simply not had as much time to devote to this site as I used to have when I was in college and over the summer. Even doing the ''[[Hard Target]]'' page was a challenge to my schedule. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

You have been recommended, hopefully you'll get promoted soon. Thanks, and keep up the good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:I second that. You've been on here quite a while and have made lots of excellent contributions, though of course I still must emphasize (being obsessive-compulsive as I am) that you should add links to the guns on all of your movie/TV/anime pages. :) But anyway, it's definitely time we had you "made". I fully back you for Admin status. Assuming you want the job, of course, hehe.

:Got rid of the "Madness" page, and I appreciate the compliments on ''[[Hard Target]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Just made you an admin ==

Congrats - just made you an admin on Alienqueen's recommendation.

==Airsoft==
they look pretty cool. Certainly airsoft guns look a lot NEWER and CLEANER than the real ones I handle every day. But I'm not into airsoft. In fact a lot of the real hardcore live firearms guys aren't that into Airsoft. I have NEVER fired an airsoft gun, ever, but we have used airsoft guns as non firing props or stand ins for live guns on set. So I've handled quite a few of them. Hopefully you can tell that my pics are of real guns, not airsoft guns. :) Airsoft is a great alternative to live guns when we don't want to hand the actors live steel. Other than that, I have never had any interest in the airsoft gaming activities. I find it funny when I run into young guys who only know the AIRSOFT names of rifles, rather than the real names of the real guns. (like the proprietary King or G&G or Classic Army guns, which approximate real world guns). Also, airsoft has the advantage of NOT rusting in wet weather. I have to go check the vaults all the time during winter time to make sure the temp control and humidity is okay. I just ran into a rack of rusting M1 Garands. best regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:41, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

: I think Airsoft is pretty neat, though my experience with it is rather limited. I've only been to one game, and even then I had to borrow a gun from one of the other guys (an ICS M4A1, which I must admit was a pretty sweet AEG, had a metal reciever, barrel, & front sight and even stripped like the real thing). I sadly can't afford any airsoft guns of my own (to say nothing of the real weapons they imitate!), but have a laundry list of airsoft stuff I'd like to get if I did have the money. Hit me up on AIM, MSN, or YIM sometime and we can chat some more about it. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 10:55, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I like airsoft guns to mess around with but I can't afford any of the heavy duty stuff you serious players use. I've played a few games with my friends on my property (130 acres of fun) but only have spring and replacable battery guns. Basically I buy airsoft guns resembling guns I can't buy in the real steel like assault rifles. My most expensive gun is a metal Marui copy of an AK-47, costed $80 on eBay. So while airsoft is fun, I don't have the gear to play it properly and really prefer real shooting to airsoft. (plus airsoft guns break a little too easy.) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

Your Classic Army M4A1 is very nice . in Hong Kong more people like G&P more that Classic Army , why ? Because US ARMY use COLT not Armalite . They say : US ARMY are not use Armalite M4A1 . If marking is Armalite it is wong . But i think they can make some Civilian Rifles use safe and fire marking .
WE made a gas M4A1 , you think this is good for play ?
WA change to metal very expensive ...
(sorry for my english is not very good) [[User:kin93|kin93]]

:I used to mess around with airsoft quite a bit when I was younger, and still like to play around with my airsoft guns from time-to-time. My collection includes a Tokyo Marui "MP5A5" (what TM calls the MP5A5 is actually an MP5A3 with Navy trigger group in "real steel"), M16A2, a Western Arms Beretta 92F, and a really cheap CO2 Micro Uzi (can't remember who makes/made it). I used to own a springer Mark 23 (also TM) that got smashed to hell when I dropped it down a flight of stairs when I was 16. However, I've only skirmished a few times in my life, don't own any gear besides the guns/mags, and generally don't care much about the game itself. I mostly just bought the guns because at the time, that was as close as I could get to the real thing without going through my parents, and they refused to let me buy "tacticool" weapons. Now that I am legally old enough to own/buy real guns, those are taking up more of my time/money.

:So, judging by the kit your team wears, are you supposed to be SAS? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

:Ah, OK, makes sense. I'm guessing that's also how you've heard of ''[[Ultimate Force]]''? You're just about the only American I know besides myself who even knows that show exists. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:55, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== RE: Airsoft ==

Nice Airsoft pictures, I once started collecting airsoft guns but I quickly lost interest. Those are very good looking replicas though, are they as heavy as they look?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:41, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

==Flashpoint==
You may have noticed I've been adding shots from the new season for [[Flashpoint]], but there are three shots I've really wanted that I can't grab. One is a shot of Ed Lane with a Remington 700PSS from the first episode (I no longer have access to that one, and he is the main sniper, he should have a picture.)

The other two shots were from the episode when the robber holds up the bank with a Beretta. Before I realized my computer had a free capping ability, I ran out of my session and only nabbed one shot of the Beretta. There was a good shot were he charges the police before being shot and I couldn't grab it. There were a few other good shots I could have used of his Beretta. The other shot was in the same episode when Sam Braddock is aiming his Remington PSS. There is a great sideshot of him aiming it and plus there is a shot were you see his bolt is open even though he is shooting someone.

I can't get these shots so if you could find them or tell me some sites were ''I'' can, it would be much apprieciated. (I tried CTV, it doesn't work for me for some reason.) Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:==

I appreciate the help on my ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' page. However, do you think you can start with Season 4? I already have the first three seasons on DVD, just not 4. If you did 4 and I did more work on the other three, I think that would be great.

Also, out of curiosity, have you seen this show before? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, the first two seasons were really good (plus, not so much focus on the soldiers' wives - except for Pete's). But the third season on is where they went downhill, which was mostly because of Chris Ryan leaving and not being around to provide technical advise. I've never seen the fourth, but heard it's really terrible.

:Also, I can add more screenshots of my own. Part of the reason I abandoned the page for so long was because my old laptop had gotten so messed up that I couldn't play DVDs on it anymore. Then when I got my new one, I had trouble getting it to play on multi-region settings (which I needed to watch this show). It was only about 2 months ago that I found a fix, but have been so sidetracked by one stuff that I just didn't get around to it. So I appreciate your work, but I can add shots from the DVDs of Seasons 1-3 now, which is why I'd prefer if you did Season 4, which I actually can't do. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

::So you mean Season 4 doesn't have any more modern M16 variants, either? Well, it kinda figures. If you check out the page for ''[[House of Saddam]]'' (made by the BBC), that mini-series shows American soldiers using old M16A1s with 20-round magazines...and this is during scenes taking place during the 2003-present Iraq War!

::Also, can please you please do the following for ''[[Ultimate Force]]'':

::*Make sure that all gun entries that you've added have pictures of the weapons.
::*Make sure that all gun entires you've added link to the weapons page.
::*Make sure you images are the same thumbnail size as mine (some of yours are too big).

::Remember, make it look professional. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Help on Alex Reid==
I have a bunch of screencaps of British Actress Alex Reid using or holding guns in other films and was going to create an actor page for her. But I have never seen Ultimate Force. Does she, playing the character ''Captain Caroline Walshe'', use any guns in the show Ultimate Force?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Alex Reid==
Thanks so much on helping with Alex Reid! :) I screencapped her movie "Arachnid" and are just preparing the images for upload and wanted to make an ACTOR page for her. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:08, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

==Ultimate Force==
BTW, you're doing a great job on U.F.! I've never even heard of this show and you have a lot of great screengrabs. It makes US viewers want to go out and buy the DVD set and check it out. Bravo. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:14, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

:*AHEM* I must remind you again that while I appreciate the help, '''please make sure you're adding gun pictures and LINKS to the gun pages.''' You're an admin. That means you're supposed to set an example for other users. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:41, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

:It's fine if you think I made the screencaps too small at 500. If you want to make them bigger, cool...just make sure that you make ALL of them the size. It looks sloppy if you have some that are 500px and others that are 600px, no?

:Also, by how this show portrays the U.S. - I'm guessing you mean as fat and incompetent? I haven't seen Season 4 yet, but I read a review of the show which mentioned this. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

::''hot heads, arrogant, and cowboys...Oh yeah, one of them is a racist''

::Ah, OK, figures. Though to be fair, it doesn't sound like they portrayed us quite as badly as they portrayed the Russians in the Season 3 finale (REALLY incompetent, cowardly, and unreliable). As far as racist goes, reminds me of "Never Go Back" where one of the Rhodesians is a racist who calls his sister a "whore" for liking Dave...

::I may have to check out Season 4 out of morbid curiosity. But I expect it's gonna suck as badly as Season 3 did...I just liked the show so much better when it was at least a ''little'' more realistic, and when it still had Caroline and Pete and Jamie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

:::Honestly, I'm not sure about any of them, besides the revolver, which I think might be a Smith & Wesson 686. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

==Out of town starting late tonight==
Am going on location and meeting with a director and television executive for the standard business stuff, but I will be traveling between midnight tonight and Tuesday, so I will be offline until then. So if I don't answer a question right away, it's because I'm in a meeting or on location. Thanks. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== Re: ''Cowboy Bebop'' ==

That's awesome news, that article needs some good screenshots in the worst way. Looking forward to seeing it given justice, as it's one of my favorite animes. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 10:15, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Clearing some things up==
Please don't hate me for saying this stuff but someone has to. You've ''got'' to clean up your act on the site (not your personality, your page making). As an Admin., you are setting examples for other users who are learning the proper format and when you don't link actors or guns and don't add a gun pic, neither do the other users and more people do it wrong. Also, I've noticed on some pages you don't do it as completely as you should because you "didn't like the movie." This is kind of unexceptable because if you take on the task of screencapping a film, you should do it complete as any other film, no matter how much is sucks. And are you still using AVI rips? Because MT2008 has said not to use them before and it appears you are still using them for some pages.

I like you man, you know your stuff and you contribute to the site but you've been asked to follow the format before and as an Admin. it is kinda your responsibility to do it right. Like I said, please don't hate me but I felt I needed to tell you this. I mean this with total sincerity and don't want to start a fight with you, but it needed to be said. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Thank you, I'm glad you didn't take what I said the wrong way. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Firefly==
Nice work on the Firefly page. It was one of the shows that I really enjoyed working on. Great cast and crew it felt like family working there. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: Hi Jacen, I will give a hand on ID of the weapons. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==...==

Can you please not put gun page links in the heading, as you just did on ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' and as I've seen you do before? Summarize which character(s) use a particular gun and put page links in there. Correct format. Please? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:25, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

==The Unit==

Do you by chance have the episode of ''[[The Unit]]'' in which an AIG rifle was used? I now have a picture of the actual rifle used in the show (dunno if you saw my picture of the Kimbers which I posted) which was given to me by an armorer whose rental company supplies that show. I would really like to post it, but need screencaps. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:16, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:Gen 2 AIG Asymmetric Warrior ASW338LM .338 Lapua Magnum Modular Sniper Rifle. You can read about it here: http://www.defensereview.com/gen-2-aig-asymmetric-warrior-asw338lm-338-lapua-magnum-modular-sniper-rifle/ . Seems like an interesting weapon.

:The guy who sent me the picture requested I hold off for a little while because he had the bipod on backwards, but he's going to re-take it. Once he does, we can get it on ''[[The Unit]]'' page and we'll have the only picture of the actual gun used on the show. Neat, huh? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:29, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

::On the page for ''[[24]]'', we called it '''AIG Asymmetric Warrior ASW338LM'''. I would stick with that.

::Thanks for the screencaps! I haven't seen that episode yet...was it good? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:41, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

::Ah ha, so I see you do have the picture he sent me. He's going to send me a new version with the bipod on correctly, so I'll have to upload over it when he gets around to it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:47, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:::Yeah, it's reversed. The way it's positioned now, the rifle would not be very stable when fired (or rather, when fired with live ammo instead of blanks). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

==The Kimber==

Damn, that is a '''nice''' piece, dude! Did you just get it today? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:12, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

:I bet! When I bought my (20-year old, well-used) SIG P226, I spent about half my mid-November paycheck. I can only imagine how much that Warrior must have eaten out of yours (of course, I dunno if you make more or less than I did). I think you made a great choice, though. When I was in TX, I got to inspect (but not fire) a Warrior up-close. I'm not sure if I'll get a Picatinny rail on my first 1911, but the Kimber Warrior line might be the only exception.

:Have you gotten any range time with the Kimber yet? Please tell me what you think of it when you do. Might help me decide if I want to grab one. Of course, even if I sell the S&W, I'll still be over $500 short, plus I'm unemployed and back in school right now, so that'll be quite some time from now... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

::Oh, I haven't had a real job since I graduated from college, either. I worked 30 hours a week at a law firm, and did an unpaid internship on the side for another 20 hrs. It was mostly to improve my resume so that I could get into a good M.A. program (which is what I'm starting in the fall).

::Most ranges have ammo you can buy there, but the costs are going up a lot, so yeah, shooting regularly isn't advised if you can't afford it. My grandfather actually gave me quite a few bags of spent .45 ACP brass when he gave me the S&W, and my Dad has ample reloading supplies (which he uses for his Colt SAA, though they work with both .45 ACP and .45 Long Colt) that he was able to use to fill 'em up. However, the last time I tried his reloads in the S&W, I kept getting stovepipe malfs and even some misfires (repeatedly), so I think I'm gonna have to get him to increase the amount of powder if I ever try them again. Anyway, if I could, I'd send you some of the reloads, since you need them more than I do. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

:::It was our first time trying to do .45 ACP reloads; my Dad had only done .45 Long Colt before that, so he wasn't sure of the optimal powder loads at the time. When my Grandfather did them, we didn't have the same issues. So I'd have to talk to him to make sure the powder content is sufficient, but, long story short, I think I can make the reloads work better. And that would mean lots of .45 ACP to shoot at much cheaper than what FFLs are charging these days. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==[[Alien: Resurrection]]==

Go right ahead and delete the page. ~ [[User:Revolver|Revolver]]

==RE:Mail Call==
I didn't do it to "make the score bigger", I did it because I get yelled at every time I use too many screencaps and after going through 8 seasons, I figured the screencaps for each gun would be too many. I figured if I split it up into seasons I could make it easier to organize but apparently that isn't right either. I can't win. Sorry. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Deadliest Warrior revolver==
It looks like a [[Colt Official Police]], but the cylinder rod is missing. The sights look off though, so I can't really make a positive ID. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re: Black ==

From what I got from the developer interviews, the idea wasn't for any weapon in the game to directly resemble any existing version of a real-life gun, rather they're designed to look interesting when viewed from above and to the left. So the M16 is more designed as a hybrid that conveys M16-ness, rather than to actually look like a particular version of it. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 06:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Just a note on your forum topic on Halo ==

Too lazy to register, but there is ''one'' gun in Halo that's real; the Sniper Rifle is almost a carbon copy of the [http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn55-e.htm NTW-20]. Still, a whole page for one gun still doesn't make sense, so you're right about that. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 08:09, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Policy question ==

Just wondering; as far as IMFDB is concerned, when does a gun stop being a gun? I ask because I'm working on the article for Crysis at the moment; there's a few obviously fictional weapons [alien guns that fire ice beams, and such] which I'm not sure should stay there, and because the American tank's 120mm gun is a British L11A5; is that something that can be listed, or is there a line after which guns become too big to mention? I notice WW2-related articles don't usually feature towed guns like the big 88s, which is why I'm cautious about including it. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 08:49, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
*Fair enough, I'll knock the more obviously inappropriate entries off when I get some extra screenshots and check a few things more carefully. Thanks. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 09:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

==Team America==
Though I despise the carton entries, I kinda disagree with deleting the Team America World police page. I know some of the model builders and their scaled down models were amazing. Ultimately, it's no big deal, the page should NOT exist until someone screencaps these amazing down scaled guns. But I 'may' do that sometime in the future. Unlike artwork, these models actually existed and were based on real guns, despite the fact that they were wielded by puppets. There are far worse offenders on IMFDB ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==artists rendition of guns==
Well the same could be said for the countless VIDEO GAMES on this site. Some of the renditions are so vague, the users are just making wild guesses as to what guns they are. Just a note, most of the real world armorers don't like listing Video games since we're completely out of the equation and no real world gun exists. Also the VG designers seem to delight to putting in artistic renditions of the most obscure and recent FOREIGN guns which have never and will never appear in a movie (like the Russian weapons) since no armory, here or abroad has those weapons in inventory. I was looking at some of the weapons (not obvious ones like the WW2 ones which are clear what they are supposed to be) but some of the more 'tactical' custom jobs. WTF? Like the so called Winchester 1200 shotgun in [[Modern Warfare 2]]. The 'real' gun pic, that's no Winchester 1200, and the photo is of a Winchester 1300 Stainless Marine with ATI Stocks. The 1200s are no longer made. And yet someone figured it was a 1200 based on a hard to see video graphic. Anyway, VG bug the hell out of me, but it's not cut and dry. Some of the games very clearly show specific weapons, some are just too unclear to be sure. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:47, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== VG guns ==
*quote*
Well some games can be forgiven to be a little bit lack of detail, but quite a few games do go out, record the sound of the real gun shots and use those in the final production, the bigger problem most gamers has with VG guns is more on their accuracy and power compared to the real thing. VG developers sometimes significantly just make guns that would be powerful and accurate as hell weak as fuck for the sake of game balance. And going with Modern Warfare 2, some of the guns are just stupid for what real world special forces would use. I mean the Bushmaster ACR? I can see how it has military uses, but I don't even think it was even considered for military use. Russian Ultranationalist using AUGs and FAMAS? Spas 12s? Oh yeah and the one big thing a Kriss Super V. That thing last I heard wasn't even in full production yet and they somehow have Russian terrorists get ahold of one? At least with COD4, they were semi consistent with what primary guns people use, the SAS and Marines using M4 weapons, the enemy using AKs, but the random USPs, Berettas and the one mission where you as the SAS trooper holding and M24 sniper rifle was just piss poor. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
*quote*
:Remember, it's a game, not a simulation. Realism cannot get in the way of fun, in the minds of production teams. MPM told me to put this here, rather than his page. This response, that is.-protoAuthor

== Ok, I think this is about done. ==

Spent a fair bit of last night screencapping [if you're wondering why the second account, I forgot the password to this one and was on my other PC], so I'm interested in what you think of the result: [[Crysis]]. Anything not there that should be or there that shouldn't? [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 05:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

==Check out this link ... too funny....==
http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=358657

==You puppet hater you!==
Come on! You gotta admit, It's freaking hilarious! I assume the person who wrote that saw the 'recent changes' log and saw that you deleted four non-live action pages in rapid order. Don't take it personally. :) I was laughing so hard I spit my coke on the board! I mean, people talk about US and the stuff WE do on other forums. It's funny. At least I was very amused by it. Just don't let the nickname 'Puppet killer' stick! hahahahaha! Sorry again, I'm having too much fun with this. ;) Forgive me. :) Personally I was glad you finally 'snapped' and deleted those STUPID animated pages. It really pushed the envelope of what IMFDB is all about. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

==Template==
To the mods: Though my own preference is strongly towards chronological order, I can accede to the wishes of the majority. I do like the format of Title First, before actor. Please note all, in the [[Steyr AUG]] page that the title, then character, then actor template, dovetails nicely into the other genres (television) but also Anime and Video games. Since there is no Character in some and no Actor in Anime or Videgame, I think this order maintains the same look from Film all the way down to VG. Thanks and please look at the page to see what I was referring to. Thanks again and I look forward to your input on this matter. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Evangelion==

If policy says not to talk about Evangelion guns, then please delete the images I've already uploaded then unprotect the page so I can write up about the real guns in the series.--[[User:V|V]] 03:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

==I'm back briefly==
Just dealing with a bunch of Indies who want guns... And as you well know, sometimes the production has no idea what they want ... and when they want it. Ugh! But I'm slammed with work so if you send me any messages, I apologize for not responding in a timely manner. best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

==Found this on Matt's page==
"I do agree with the fact we should prohibit and make sure people understand that we have to understand the fact that we can't post images of movies unreleased on DVD no matter how high quality they might be as some I've found. And Gunmaster, you're 15, so I don't think you would bash your own age group. I don't remember what it was like being that age. - You"

You'd be surprised, I actually don't like most people in my age group because in my town they're all a bunch of dumbasses. My town is a strange one, 30% of kids are sheep-fucking hicks, 30% of kids are lazy potheads who get in trouble with the cops often, and then I make up some of the 10% of ''normal'' people, although people know I like guns so somehow, ''I'm'' the wierd one. Anyway, I prefer to hang out with people who are older (from 18 to 50+) and know how to have fun, but aren't idiots at all time. So, in a way, I do bash my own age group. Just clearing that up. ;) BTW, check out ''[[Face/Off]'' so far, I'm not done yet but I'm trying to finish it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==MAS-36==
Hey I noticed you were the one who deleted the MAS-36 page. Was there a particular reason (i.e.: page creator was being immature), and would it be okay for me to recreate it? -[[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 21:32, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

== Yo! ==
Yo Excalibur, can i talk to you on MSN? It's about airsoft. I wanna get into this Airsoft thing.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:16, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

==YNH==
I think he was planning on revamping the page in full, which is why he's changing the format. I don't know, you should talk to him about this.

BTW, if you'd like to redo the format on the Mail Call page, feel free. I really don't look forward to fixing the format of such a monstrous page, as finding the time to do it all is difficult. If you do change it though, don't remove screencaps. I'll later decide what stays and goes. ;) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Dunno if I'm too late, but is everything cool now? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:28, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

::Hmmmm, well, I don't agree with what he did. Even if he doesn't want to do it by gun type, something else would be nice to break up the size of the page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::Alright, will do. In the meantime, you could change the Protection level to Sysops only, if you wanted, though that might bring about cries of abuse of power. Hopefully, we can resolve this through discussion instead. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

==Deletion of content in District 9==

Hi, I was just wondering why you deleted the entry for the alien weapon in District 9, since fictional weapons are allowed to be listed if they play particularly important roles in the movie (and the weapon definitely is important if it is being used by a main character). [[User:Markit|Markit]]

:Direct me to where it saids fictional weapons are allowed. I mean if the weapon is a plastic shell over a real gun, but I have yet to see any indication of us allowing weapons that don't exist. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

::How about previous examples such as the '''Sonic gun''' in ''[[Minority Report]]'', the '''The Bio Force Gun v3.14''' in''[[Doom]]'', or the [[Bazookoid]] from ''[[Red Dwarf]]''?. None of those were built over actual weapons either and their effects were simulated. [[User:Markit|Markit]]

==(here is a note I've been posting around IMFDB)==
''I recently had the unpleasant experience of having some of the performers being insulted in some of our movie pages see what some of the IMFDB members write. there are some pretty condescending remarks regarding horrible grips, gun stance, bad gun discipline and blinking while shooting. I'm trying to promote the website and it's embarrassing to see actors getting insulted for pretty trivial reasons. What are your thoughts regarding this?

See below:''

'''I'm asking all members to stop with the sarcastic comments in the screencap descriptions'''
Too many members feel it's funny to be extremely sarcastic about actor's shooting stance, their blinking, their pistol grips. Only if it's so over the top as for the average person to notice, then don't keep on harping on it. Most actors are given only a bare amount of time to train, if at all. Many times the editor picks the worst take for pistol grip, but best take for other reasons like acting. Also much of the blame falls on the director. Some directors don't want to be bothered trying to train the actors and don't allow us armorers to even give them more training than the minimum safety training. People in the industry check out this website, and some think we're a bunch of obnoxious kids. I am not happy when people in 'the biz' look at the site and scoff at the snarky remarks. Some of them are the actual actors being insulted. We can always put in criticism, but IMFDB members going forward going to criticize a film, should try to do so in a scholarly manner or not at all. Thanks for your cooperation [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:53, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==Check this user==
Someone made a change on the [[Miami Vice - Season 3]] page in the Smith & Wesson Model 686 section. He wrote ni&&er below one of the pics.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:23, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Forum login ==

Is your forum login working again? If you need to get a hold of me best bet is on my discussion page as it also sends me an email. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 04:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

==Mafia Wars==
I'm wondering if you could delete the entry for [[Mafia Wars]] as it's a nasty little flash game popular on both Myspace and Facebook. As it's a flash game it's against forum policy and even the creator of the page admit's that it's not kosher.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 07:07, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

==Heroes SVI Infinity==

Hey, Excal,

Since you did a lot of the work on our ''[[Heroes]]'' page, I thought you might like this picture that I was just sent...

[[Image:IMG 1509.JPG|thumb|none|400px|A Strayer Voight Infinity in .45 ACP. This is one of the actual guns that has been used by The Company henchmen on ''Heroes''; this weapon was supplied to the show by Independent Studio Services and has been used on every season.]]

-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:24, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

==RD protection change==
You do know, the moment some 12 yr old puts on 15 screencaps for a single gun entry, I'm re-protecting the page ;) This page (like a few choice others) seems to attract noobs who not only screw up pages, but are relentless. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:24, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

==Winchester Model 1887 in Sherlock Holmes==
I've seen the guard in the carriage load a shell into a shotgun with a pistol grip so it may be a Winchester Model 1887 as the movie is set in 1891 and it was available at that time. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 16:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

==BDSII==

It's cool you're working on ''The Boondock Saints II'', but I have to warn you: I have the movie on Blu-Ray and I have been meaning to do the page for a while. I'll be way too busy to do the page before May 5th (it's crunch time for me), but I ''do'' intend to do it. Not sure if that changes how you feel about what you're doing now, but just be advised: Blu-Ray screencaps are inevitable. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:10, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Screencapping films ==

If you're looking for a good program for screencaps, I use VLC player. I sometimes have to tweak the video settings to brighten or sharpen the image, but I find it's the best for capturing stills. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 04:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

:Yeah, I echo Ben. I prefer VLC myself. It has issues of its own (it tends to crash on me whenever I use the frame-by-frame playback to capture stills from Blu-Rays, and sometimes even from standard-def DVDs), but it's overall the best I've ever tried. Doing PRNT-SCRN in WMP sucks, and is too time-consuming. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:09, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

==Vandal==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/66.103.187.149
--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 00:39, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:Alienqueen already took care of it. He created an article saying "this gun is cool BOOBIES" --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 04:18, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Another one
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/76.209.220.230
--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 19:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

==The Transformers 3 page==
Just a note, that the guy creating the page is a guy I banned for two weeks (see the forum for a thread about this). I found it interesting that the first thing he does when he gets back is to put up a page which is bound to set off red flags.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:35, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
::Well, the facebook page is an official movie page from the production company. They would not have allowed the release of the photos if they did not want it. So the Behind the scenes pics seem to have been formally 'released' by the production company. So they're technically LEGAL. What this USER has to do is to not be an idiot when it comes to disclosing on the page itself just WHERE the information and photos come from. He still types with no punctuation and with an attitude. But technically right now, nothing that warrants any punitive action. I suppose one of us will have to write on the page a formal disclaimer that the images and information come from publicly released stills from the studio. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:54, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

This is a crock of shit and you know it is. Just because you have SOME power and some little shitty site mean that you have ALL the power and you know everything. Its fucking Facebook. There are loads of "official" facebook groups that arnt made by the company and they dont give a fuck. If they did they'd be blocked wouldnt they? Yes! And how the fuck is it Endangering IMFDB??? It doesnt affect imfdb you fucking moron. It has NOTHING to do with this group at all. Your group is that small that no one, except for a few slack jawed yokels care about it. Guns! come on. Your kidding no-one with your brovado. Your full of shit! Just because you live with your mum and dad at 35 and masturate over your dads gun collection, dont try and be so tyranical with your powers. Lol powers. I feel ashamed t say that. Fuck all powers LOL. Purge! Is this the 16th century or somthing! Why ahve you called youself Excalibur when this is a gun site! And one final but ironic point is, have you asked yourself but have you got all the rights to everything that you write on here? Have you gone to every company and asked them that you can use there information on here. Have you fucking. Your a fucking hypocrite. Trying to be righteous. I hope that this wikia does get shut down because your power hungry and too idiotic to run a site at all. Your really are a sad little (well large) person who needs to get out more and Mean REAL people. Not playing World of War craft all day or watching your pedoish animia in your room. I hope you can get a life on day you large bitched titted lard arsed cunt. I only joined this group it insult you :). I hope you enjoy this Yanky boy!

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== What about other weapons ? ==
Youre a rulemaker and your nickname is a name of not a firearm, but a sword (that's really good), so your opinion is needful in such a kind of situation.
This site is great database, i really enjoy it, but i think that readers can be intersted in some other kinds of weapons beside the firearms (knives, bows, swords, tools, usual objects used as a weapon etc.). Is it possible to do section "Other weapons" for those intersted geeks like me ? I done one in my [[Mr. Bean (TV series)]] article, but [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] and [[User:SB2296|SB2296]] saying, that such information would be best to keep in the discussion page. What do you think about it? There's no other wiki site about movie weapons on the web, so, i think that such information must be here, on the pages. P.S. Sorry if i've got a mistakes in my writing - i'm from Ukraine actually. P.P.S. Also sorry that i wrote you a message mostly identical to the ones i wrote to [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] and [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 14:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Question ==
You say that your guns is airsoft. Always wanted to ask someone, who knows about weapons, can cheap chinese plastic toys, that copys real life weapons and firing 6mm "BB bullet" (little plastic roundy thing)count as an airsoft guns, or it's just a toy and only those weapons, that used to play a game named "strikeball" can be named "airsoft guns" ? --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 14:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

==Extra work on the SG-1 page==

Hey, I really like all the work you've done to make the SG-1 page into a comprehensive list of all the weapons that have appeared on the show. However, I must ask...would you be OK if I did some extra work on it just to make it a little less taxing on the eyes? When you have lots and lots of screenshots, it's usually a good idea to make them into thumbnails on the page so that they don't wind up being an eyesore.

Additionally, I'd also recommend you add episode info to each screenshot (if you've got it), as well as pictures of the guns from our archive so that anyone browsing this site will have something to compare it to. See what I've done on the section for the very first gun on the page (the Beretta M9) as an ex of what I mean.

-If you want to make the page better, go right ahead. I had no problems with the size of some of the pics cause I think it draws attention, but if you think it is better a little smaller, go right ahead. I'm still new to the wiki editting, so I don't know how to do everything.

==SG-1 Screenshots==

GREAT WORK! on the SG1 screen shots. I just wish more people knew how to do great screen shots and put them in the pages. It really makes the page great! BTW: I will be doing more custom gun photographs soon and I will be photographing my own USAS-12 with both stick and drum magazines in place. I try to grab as many real movie guns from my own inventory (plus guns from the inventory of professional colleagues as I can), but they're in the biz of making movies and get annoyed with me sometimes, since I always want to take softbox photos of their guns against a white background. I will GET shots of the actual guns from T-2 perhaps in a month when I get a chance. Great WORK on the SG1 pics!
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==SG-1 guns==

Hi,

Your pages for the Stargate movies and TV show are really awesome! Thanks for all the hard work you've put in! I wish I could do the same, except my POS laptop has been really acting up lately and I literally can't play any of my DVDs on it right now.

Anyway, I just thought I'd help out with some extra details, in case you find them relevant:

*(1.) Most of the M16A2s on ''SG1'', especially in the early seasons, are actually M16A1s that have been fitted with A2-style handguards. You can tell because they have A1-style receivers which lack the brass deflector and the elevation-adjustable rear sight (look closely at the rifle in the top picture, for instance). A few of them (usually in non-firing scenes) are actually civilian AR15 SP1s which lack even the forward assist and the magazine fencing.

*(2.) I believe the AKs used by the Russian SG team are actually Norinco Type 84s, which is a Chinese AK variant that fires 5.56x45mm. In the show, they seem to be fitted with AK74-style folding stocks and muzzle breaks, but the design of the magazine (steel and ribbed, not plastic like the real AK74) gives them away.

*(3.) The AKs used by the Hondurans are a Yugoslav copy called the [[Zastava M70|Zastava M70B]].

*(4.) Many of the M203s on ''SG1'' are look-a-like 37mm Colt flare launchers, which is very common in many movies and TV shows when they don't want to spend the money - or go through the legal difficulties - of getting real M203s (which are NFA-regulated items).

*(5.) As far as the "Carter Special" (the little AR with the thumbhole stock) goes, the picture you posted to illustrate it is an airsoft replica. The guy who built it (for that "Stargate6.com" site that doesn't work anymore) once posted about it on Airsoft Retreat, years ago now. Somebody else actually built a real one, except that it was semi-auto only and had been registered as an SBR in that person's state. I wish so much that I remember where the hell I saw/heard about it! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Contributions to IMFDB response==
It says one of your contributions is Flashpoint. Respectively, I'd like to mention I've listed almost every gun on their and every picture, screenshots and all to the page. No offense of course, but I have to brag to someone :). I cleaned up you profile page, hope you don't mind.

::Alright, you did a lot of listing and then some pictures, but I also did some additions as well as add my own pictures. I mean, the series is pretty new, at the 4th episode and I named about 3 weapons and uploaded a handful of pictures. I think that much work than minor additions deserves to be "contributions" than on just "minor" additions. I mean if the series was complete and there is always a pretty complete page with photos and I jumped in and added my own, then yeah, that's a minor addition. But since I am doing my best with this new series since it's hard to find screenshots, I think I deserve a mention.

==Your pages==
We all love your pages, you make them well, but can you please put them in proper format? Copy it from another page if you must, because it's hard work changing it for you. I just finished doing it with the Gone in 60 seconds page, and then you bring up another. And don't forget to add stock pictures of the gun itself. That's why they have gun pictures for use on the site. I'm not trying to argue or anything but putting the pages into proper format is difficult with another person's page. By putting something in "thumb" format, you make the picture with a nice looking frame, and yoo can add a caption under it. I put your pic size at 500px because I figured you like the shots big(I do 400px). Also, the poster looks nice when you move it to the right. after each picture type in:

(double brackets)Image:whateverpicis.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Caption to describe picture(double brackets)
And for poster, instead of "none", type "right" to move it to the right.
Keep up the good work. -GM

::I'll work on it all right away

==Flashpoint==
Thank you so much for uploading screencapps for the page, I was afraid I'd have to see pictureless "Unknown" guns on the page the whole time until the DVDs came out. your shots look great. I would have kept doing it, but my screencapping system died, and I missed so many episodes, they stopped playing some on the CBS site, and I'd missed too many, and figured I'd just wait for the DVDs.

Okay, seriopusly man, why do you keep deleting The HK USP, im gonna go put it back up. Sorry if youy missed it, no need to delete it.

==The Unit==
The High Standard HDM is a maybe, the ruger II is a definate no. The gun clearly has a flat top and the slide is open top and in full. A Ruger has a concealed slide inside the gun with nothing but the toggle knobs visible. It may be a S&W 46, but it is hard to tell.

That is/was an M60E4/Mk43 Mod 1. The GPMG is used by the SEALS and by the 5th SFG in "real life" so it would be logical for it to be in the Unit's inventory alongside the H&K 416. The addition of so many rails to the thing almost obliterates the classic outlines of the M60 (that and a major reworking of the feed system). Besides with Dennis Haysbert's size...the thing probably would look like a SAW. - [[Charon68]]

==Cartoons==

I'm a bit torn on the matter. On the one hand, I agree that it's easy to get carried away with cartoons, which are basically not intended to be serious and rarely focus upon guns (the way action movies do). However, it is true that some cartoonists ''are'' actually gun guys and depict guns pretty realistically in their shows. Most seasons of ''[[South Park]]'', for instance, feature very detailed images of M16A1s, SPAS-12s, S&W 5904/06, and a bullpup rifle similar to the G36 that were obviously intended to duplicate the real guns. In cases like that, I think it ''could'' be argued that the creators actually did show an attempt to depict guns realistically.

On the other hand, whoever made the ''[[South Park]]'' page really should have put more effort into it. It's kinda lazy to do what they did. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Got a gift for ya==
figured you could use a shot of a PSG01 with a 20 round mag in it. You sure won't find one on the net ... ;) So I made sure I popped in a 20 when I shot my PSG01. ;) Let me know if you can use it for your "The Unit" page....

[[Image:H&KPSG01LongMag.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

==??==
Why are you thanking MT2008 for the PSG pic? ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:09, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps==

Hi,

I appreciate you providing screencaps for movies such as ''[[Pineapple Express]]''. But...I have some reservations. I know your screencaps would have to be from a bootleg AVI or MPEG file, since the movie isn't out on DVD or Blu Ray yet. I am a bit concerned that if studio spies were prowling the net for stuff like this, they might come upon your screencaps and we'd get in trouble.

I will not delete the shots you've already uploaded, but in the future, I'd prefer that you didn't upload screenshots from movies that haven't come out on DVD yet, just in case we get in trouble. Plus, the DVD will always be superior quality, anyway. That is all.

Cheers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:38, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

:Well, I dunno if you saw, but when ''[[The Incredible Hulk (2008)|The Incredible Hulk]]'' came out on DVD, I screencapped it all over again.

:Like I said, when a movie isn't out on DVD yet, the studios will know if they see screenshots on here that they could only have come from a bootleg. So yeah, like I said, please don't post screenshots of movies not out on DVD. I just don't think it's such a good idea. But the ''[[Pineapple Express]]'' shots you've got can stay.

:Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:44, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

::Sorry, man. Don't take it personally; it's just that I'm worried it might invite unwanted attention. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

:::That is a good question. The answer is, basically not. Technically, posting screencaps from DVDs - even those you've bought - falls within particular intellectual property infringements, but in practice, these have largely gone unenforced.

:::Downloading a bootleg copy of a movie, however, is another issue entirely. If you post screenshots from a movie that isn't out on DVD, you might as well be advertising that you were bootlegging. I'd just prefer we didn't do it, but this is perhaps a matter worth discussing with Bunni. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== ''Sara Connor Chronicles'' "Unknown Gun" ==

Hey, just took a look at the pistol you have listed as an "Unknown Gun" on the ''[[Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles]]'' page. I'm not exactly sure what kind it is, though it does appear to be a Smith & Wesson semi-auto of some sort. It looks the most like a [[Smith & Wesson 4000 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 4506|Smith & Wesson 4506]], but the squared trigger guard looks like that on the [[Smith & Wesson 5900 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 5906|Smith & Wesson 5906]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 08:26, 21 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==Tropic Thunder==
Please stop changing my DVD cover on Tropic Thunder. That picture was personally photocopied and uploaded by me and is currently the only version of that cover on the internet. Plus, it depicts what DVD I used, which I always do when I make a page. Since I went through all the trouble to screencap the movie, I think I'm entitled to at least keep the cover I want. -GM

==Re:John Woo quote==

No, sorry, I'm afraid I don't know, but I would like to be able to add quotes myself. The one you've chosen is a good one; another one I like is "Give the guy a gun, he thinks he's Superman. Give him and he thinks he's God", which is from ''[[Hard Boiled]]''. But we should find out...

BTW, please sign your talk page posts by hitting "~" four times in a row (no spaces). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:07, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:Full Metal Panic==

It looks great! Very thorough...though, of course, I recommend as usual adding links to the pages for each gun. :) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

==RE:E==
Great job with the page (did you figure out how to crop the widescreen shots mid-way?). When I had first seen the movie, I wasn't a capper yet. I'm stumped on the SMG but I'm sure MT or MPM will know or find out (I'll check some of my sources if they don't know). I'll be working on the Dark Knight some more. Let me know if you need anymore help.

And with Taurus to Beretta, basically all Berettas except the first model 92 (seen in [[Hotel Rwanda]] have decocking safeties. The 92S has a rounded trigger and a right decocker. The 92SB has rounded trigger and ambi decocker. The Beretta 92F and FS are visually the same but have a squared trigger guard and an ambi decocker.

Now the have always had frame mounted slide stop safeties like 1911s. Most have ambidextrous frame safeties. The squared trigger guard is slightly more rounded (still reversed curve, but softer). The AF models are more recent and newer looking (they have widened cocking serations). For I.Ding, that's about the basics of it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Flash Animations==
I don't even like anime all that much let alone flash animations. The only way I'd except them is if he went through the work of screencapping them. And I doubt he'll do that. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I'm getting tired of these flash animation pages myself. Time to put this trend to rest.

:I like the RE: Extinction page, though of course I must remind you to add links to the gun pages. I think you are right that the Polish subgun must be one of the newer variations, but I knew I recognized the receiver shape when I saw it.

:Also, thanks for ditching the images from the ''[[Tunnel Rats]]'' pages; I will delete them soon. I have been meaning to for a while, but I must admit I hesitated. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::Let me rephrase, I don't like the animes that have guns that look nothing like real guns in which people guess. Those are annoying. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

::Yeah, the professionally done anime deserves to be included on this site. I know those guys make a serious attempt to draw guns as realistically as possible (I believe they use airsoft guns as their references, but still, give 'em credit for making do with what they have, since Japan's gun laws are so strict). Cartoons like ''[[Family Guy]]'' are a bit of a stretch, but at least it's a professionally-done TV series, and at least they do make some attempt at realistic guns (i.e. the obvious XM8s in one episode).

::I appreciate you deleting the images, but to be fair, I dunno if I have a problem with low-quality DVD rips per se. When I was a new user here, I did plenty of pages with those myself (nowadays, I mostly use DVDs and iTunes movie rentals). Main reason I was nervous about ''[[Pineapple Express]]'' was that it was a big movie, and some studio spy might see our page, and he would know it was a bootleg because the movie wasn't out on DVD when the page was screencapped. MoviePropMaster agreed with me on that. Of course, ''[[Tunnel Rats]]'' is a Uwe Boll movie, which means nobody should get upset if it's bootlegged (that dude doesn't deserve to make money off his movies at all). But that's beside the point...-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Resident Evil: Extinction ==

Hey, nice work on Resident Evil: Extinction, it looks like GM45 answered your questions. Anyway, as for Flash Animations, I have to agree with you and everyone else. Flash animations don't belong here, anyone can basically create crude animations and shapes with flash. Plus, other users will probably see pages like that, and think they'll be able to put up their stupid airsoft movies. Also, if you want, I could you give an admin recommendation to the head of the site so you can get rid of pages like that without having to wait around for someone else, let me know if you would like to become a mod.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:57, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:::First of all, it's kinda weird to be talking about him in third-person, since he can read our talk pages. LOL. Anyway, I don't think we were too harsh. The admins agree that flash animations don't qualify for IMFDB inclusion, and we make/enforce the law. Of course, the law hasn't been written, so I see no need to get angry at somebody for being ignorant of something that they couldn't have known. But I guess I ''would'' expect common sense to take over where law is non-existent...oh, well.

:::I do agree with you that DVD rips should generally not be used. I have not and will not use them anymore for any new pages I make - I now use mostly iTunes rentals (which are pretty high-quality). Just not sure we should necessarily reject/ban their use. Anyway, all of this is stuff I need to articulate in the IMFDB "constitution" which I hope to write soon. I apologize for not getting it done sooner, but between working 45-hour weeks and trying to get myself into M.A. programs, I have simply not had as much time to devote to this site as I used to have when I was in college and over the summer. Even doing the ''[[Hard Target]]'' page was a challenge to my schedule. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

You have been recommended, hopefully you'll get promoted soon. Thanks, and keep up the good work.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:I second that. You've been on here quite a while and have made lots of excellent contributions, though of course I still must emphasize (being obsessive-compulsive as I am) that you should add links to the guns on all of your movie/TV/anime pages. :) But anyway, it's definitely time we had you "made". I fully back you for Admin status. Assuming you want the job, of course, hehe.

:Got rid of the "Madness" page, and I appreciate the compliments on ''[[Hard Target]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Just made you an admin ==

Congrats - just made you an admin on Alienqueen's recommendation.

==Airsoft==
they look pretty cool. Certainly airsoft guns look a lot NEWER and CLEANER than the real ones I handle every day. But I'm not into airsoft. In fact a lot of the real hardcore live firearms guys aren't that into Airsoft. I have NEVER fired an airsoft gun, ever, but we have used airsoft guns as non firing props or stand ins for live guns on set. So I've handled quite a few of them. Hopefully you can tell that my pics are of real guns, not airsoft guns. :) Airsoft is a great alternative to live guns when we don't want to hand the actors live steel. Other than that, I have never had any interest in the airsoft gaming activities. I find it funny when I run into young guys who only know the AIRSOFT names of rifles, rather than the real names of the real guns. (like the proprietary King or G&G or Classic Army guns, which approximate real world guns). Also, airsoft has the advantage of NOT rusting in wet weather. I have to go check the vaults all the time during winter time to make sure the temp control and humidity is okay. I just ran into a rack of rusting M1 Garands. best regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:41, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

: I think Airsoft is pretty neat, though my experience with it is rather limited. I've only been to one game, and even then I had to borrow a gun from one of the other guys (an ICS M4A1, which I must admit was a pretty sweet AEG, had a metal reciever, barrel, & front sight and even stripped like the real thing). I sadly can't afford any airsoft guns of my own (to say nothing of the real weapons they imitate!), but have a laundry list of airsoft stuff I'd like to get if I did have the money. Hit me up on AIM, MSN, or YIM sometime and we can chat some more about it. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 10:55, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I like airsoft guns to mess around with but I can't afford any of the heavy duty stuff you serious players use. I've played a few games with my friends on my property (130 acres of fun) but only have spring and replacable battery guns. Basically I buy airsoft guns resembling guns I can't buy in the real steel like assault rifles. My most expensive gun is a metal Marui copy of an AK-47, costed $80 on eBay. So while airsoft is fun, I don't have the gear to play it properly and really prefer real shooting to airsoft. (plus airsoft guns break a little too easy.) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

Your Classic Army M4A1 is very nice . in Hong Kong more people like G&P more that Classic Army , why ? Because US ARMY use COLT not Armalite . They say : US ARMY are not use Armalite M4A1 . If marking is Armalite it is wong . But i think they can make some Civilian Rifles use safe and fire marking .
WE made a gas M4A1 , you think this is good for play ?
WA change to metal very expensive ...
(sorry for my english is not very good) [[User:kin93|kin93]]

:I used to mess around with airsoft quite a bit when I was younger, and still like to play around with my airsoft guns from time-to-time. My collection includes a Tokyo Marui "MP5A5" (what TM calls the MP5A5 is actually an MP5A3 with Navy trigger group in "real steel"), M16A2, a Western Arms Beretta 92F, and a really cheap CO2 Micro Uzi (can't remember who makes/made it). I used to own a springer Mark 23 (also TM) that got smashed to hell when I dropped it down a flight of stairs when I was 16. However, I've only skirmished a few times in my life, don't own any gear besides the guns/mags, and generally don't care much about the game itself. I mostly just bought the guns because at the time, that was as close as I could get to the real thing without going through my parents, and they refused to let me buy "tacticool" weapons. Now that I am legally old enough to own/buy real guns, those are taking up more of my time/money.

:So, judging by the kit your team wears, are you supposed to be SAS? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

:Ah, OK, makes sense. I'm guessing that's also how you've heard of ''[[Ultimate Force]]''? You're just about the only American I know besides myself who even knows that show exists. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:55, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== RE: Airsoft ==

Nice Airsoft pictures, I once started collecting airsoft guns but I quickly lost interest. Those are very good looking replicas though, are they as heavy as they look?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:41, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

==Flashpoint==
You may have noticed I've been adding shots from the new season for [[Flashpoint]], but there are three shots I've really wanted that I can't grab. One is a shot of Ed Lane with a Remington 700PSS from the first episode (I no longer have access to that one, and he is the main sniper, he should have a picture.)

The other two shots were from the episode when the robber holds up the bank with a Beretta. Before I realized my computer had a free capping ability, I ran out of my session and only nabbed one shot of the Beretta. There was a good shot were he charges the police before being shot and I couldn't grab it. There were a few other good shots I could have used of his Beretta. The other shot was in the same episode when Sam Braddock is aiming his Remington PSS. There is a great sideshot of him aiming it and plus there is a shot were you see his bolt is open even though he is shooting someone.

I can't get these shots so if you could find them or tell me some sites were ''I'' can, it would be much apprieciated. (I tried CTV, it doesn't work for me for some reason.) Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re:==

I appreciate the help on my ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' page. However, do you think you can start with Season 4? I already have the first three seasons on DVD, just not 4. If you did 4 and I did more work on the other three, I think that would be great.

Also, out of curiosity, have you seen this show before? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, the first two seasons were really good (plus, not so much focus on the soldiers' wives - except for Pete's). But the third season on is where they went downhill, which was mostly because of Chris Ryan leaving and not being around to provide technical advise. I've never seen the fourth, but heard it's really terrible.

:Also, I can add more screenshots of my own. Part of the reason I abandoned the page for so long was because my old laptop had gotten so messed up that I couldn't play DVDs on it anymore. Then when I got my new one, I had trouble getting it to play on multi-region settings (which I needed to watch this show). It was only about 2 months ago that I found a fix, but have been so sidetracked by one stuff that I just didn't get around to it. So I appreciate your work, but I can add shots from the DVDs of Seasons 1-3 now, which is why I'd prefer if you did Season 4, which I actually can't do. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

::So you mean Season 4 doesn't have any more modern M16 variants, either? Well, it kinda figures. If you check out the page for ''[[House of Saddam]]'' (made by the BBC), that mini-series shows American soldiers using old M16A1s with 20-round magazines...and this is during scenes taking place during the 2003-present Iraq War!

::Also, can please you please do the following for ''[[Ultimate Force]]'':

::*Make sure that all gun entries that you've added have pictures of the weapons.
::*Make sure that all gun entires you've added link to the weapons page.
::*Make sure you images are the same thumbnail size as mine (some of yours are too big).

::Remember, make it look professional. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Help on Alex Reid==
I have a bunch of screencaps of British Actress Alex Reid using or holding guns in other films and was going to create an actor page for her. But I have never seen Ultimate Force. Does she, playing the character ''Captain Caroline Walshe'', use any guns in the show Ultimate Force?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Alex Reid==
Thanks so much on helping with Alex Reid! :) I screencapped her movie "Arachnid" and are just preparing the images for upload and wanted to make an ACTOR page for her. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:08, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

==Ultimate Force==
BTW, you're doing a great job on U.F.! I've never even heard of this show and you have a lot of great screengrabs. It makes US viewers want to go out and buy the DVD set and check it out. Bravo. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:14, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

:*AHEM* I must remind you again that while I appreciate the help, '''please make sure you're adding gun pictures and LINKS to the gun pages.''' You're an admin. That means you're supposed to set an example for other users. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:41, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

:It's fine if you think I made the screencaps too small at 500. If you want to make them bigger, cool...just make sure that you make ALL of them the size. It looks sloppy if you have some that are 500px and others that are 600px, no?

:Also, by how this show portrays the U.S. - I'm guessing you mean as fat and incompetent? I haven't seen Season 4 yet, but I read a review of the show which mentioned this. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

::''hot heads, arrogant, and cowboys...Oh yeah, one of them is a racist''

::Ah, OK, figures. Though to be fair, it doesn't sound like they portrayed us quite as badly as they portrayed the Russians in the Season 3 finale (REALLY incompetent, cowardly, and unreliable). As far as racist goes, reminds me of "Never Go Back" where one of the Rhodesians is a racist who calls his sister a "whore" for liking Dave...

::I may have to check out Season 4 out of morbid curiosity. But I expect it's gonna suck as badly as Season 3 did...I just liked the show so much better when it was at least a ''little'' more realistic, and when it still had Caroline and Pete and Jamie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

:::Honestly, I'm not sure about any of them, besides the revolver, which I think might be a Smith & Wesson 686. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

==Out of town starting late tonight==
Am going on location and meeting with a director and television executive for the standard business stuff, but I will be traveling between midnight tonight and Tuesday, so I will be offline until then. So if I don't answer a question right away, it's because I'm in a meeting or on location. Thanks. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== Re: ''Cowboy Bebop'' ==

That's awesome news, that article needs some good screenshots in the worst way. Looking forward to seeing it given justice, as it's one of my favorite animes. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 10:15, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Clearing some things up==
Please don't hate me for saying this stuff but someone has to. You've ''got'' to clean up your act on the site (not your personality, your page making). As an Admin., you are setting examples for other users who are learning the proper format and when you don't link actors or guns and don't add a gun pic, neither do the other users and more people do it wrong. Also, I've noticed on some pages you don't do it as completely as you should because you "didn't like the movie." This is kind of unexceptable because if you take on the task of screencapping a film, you should do it complete as any other film, no matter how much is sucks. And are you still using AVI rips? Because MT2008 has said not to use them before and it appears you are still using them for some pages.

I like you man, you know your stuff and you contribute to the site but you've been asked to follow the format before and as an Admin. it is kinda your responsibility to do it right. Like I said, please don't hate me but I felt I needed to tell you this. I mean this with total sincerity and don't want to start a fight with you, but it needed to be said. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Thank you, I'm glad you didn't take what I said the wrong way. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Firefly==
Nice work on the Firefly page. It was one of the shows that I really enjoyed working on. Great cast and crew it felt like family working there. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: Hi Jacen, I will give a hand on ID of the weapons. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==...==

Can you please not put gun page links in the heading, as you just did on ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' and as I've seen you do before? Summarize which character(s) use a particular gun and put page links in there. Correct format. Please? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:25, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

==The Unit==

Do you by chance have the episode of ''[[The Unit]]'' in which an AIG rifle was used? I now have a picture of the actual rifle used in the show (dunno if you saw my picture of the Kimbers which I posted) which was given to me by an armorer whose rental company supplies that show. I would really like to post it, but need screencaps. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:16, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:Gen 2 AIG Asymmetric Warrior ASW338LM .338 Lapua Magnum Modular Sniper Rifle. You can read about it here: http://www.defensereview.com/gen-2-aig-asymmetric-warrior-asw338lm-338-lapua-magnum-modular-sniper-rifle/ . Seems like an interesting weapon.

:The guy who sent me the picture requested I hold off for a little while because he had the bipod on backwards, but he's going to re-take it. Once he does, we can get it on ''[[The Unit]]'' page and we'll have the only picture of the actual gun used on the show. Neat, huh? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:29, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

::On the page for ''[[24]]'', we called it '''AIG Asymmetric Warrior ASW338LM'''. I would stick with that.

::Thanks for the screencaps! I haven't seen that episode yet...was it good? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:41, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

::Ah ha, so I see you do have the picture he sent me. He's going to send me a new version with the bipod on correctly, so I'll have to upload over it when he gets around to it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:47, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:::Yeah, it's reversed. The way it's positioned now, the rifle would not be very stable when fired (or rather, when fired with live ammo instead of blanks). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

==The Kimber==

Damn, that is a '''nice''' piece, dude! Did you just get it today? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:12, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

:I bet! When I bought my (20-year old, well-used) SIG P226, I spent about half my mid-November paycheck. I can only imagine how much that Warrior must have eaten out of yours (of course, I dunno if you make more or less than I did). I think you made a great choice, though. When I was in TX, I got to inspect (but not fire) a Warrior up-close. I'm not sure if I'll get a Picatinny rail on my first 1911, but the Kimber Warrior line might be the only exception.

:Have you gotten any range time with the Kimber yet? Please tell me what you think of it when you do. Might help me decide if I want to grab one. Of course, even if I sell the S&W, I'll still be over $500 short, plus I'm unemployed and back in school right now, so that'll be quite some time from now... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

::Oh, I haven't had a real job since I graduated from college, either. I worked 30 hours a week at a law firm, and did an unpaid internship on the side for another 20 hrs. It was mostly to improve my resume so that I could get into a good M.A. program (which is what I'm starting in the fall).

::Most ranges have ammo you can buy there, but the costs are going up a lot, so yeah, shooting regularly isn't advised if you can't afford it. My grandfather actually gave me quite a few bags of spent .45 ACP brass when he gave me the S&W, and my Dad has ample reloading supplies (which he uses for his Colt SAA, though they work with both .45 ACP and .45 Long Colt) that he was able to use to fill 'em up. However, the last time I tried his reloads in the S&W, I kept getting stovepipe malfs and even some misfires (repeatedly), so I think I'm gonna have to get him to increase the amount of powder if I ever try them again. Anyway, if I could, I'd send you some of the reloads, since you need them more than I do. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

:::It was our first time trying to do .45 ACP reloads; my Dad had only done .45 Long Colt before that, so he wasn't sure of the optimal powder loads at the time. When my Grandfather did them, we didn't have the same issues. So I'd have to talk to him to make sure the powder content is sufficient, but, long story short, I think I can make the reloads work better. And that would mean lots of .45 ACP to shoot at much cheaper than what FFLs are charging these days. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==[[Alien: Resurrection]]==

Go right ahead and delete the page. ~ [[User:Revolver|Revolver]]

==RE:Mail Call==
I didn't do it to "make the score bigger", I did it because I get yelled at every time I use too many screencaps and after going through 8 seasons, I figured the screencaps for each gun would be too many. I figured if I split it up into seasons I could make it easier to organize but apparently that isn't right either. I can't win. Sorry. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Deadliest Warrior revolver==
It looks like a [[Colt Official Police]], but the cylinder rod is missing. The sights look off though, so I can't really make a positive ID. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re: Black ==

From what I got from the developer interviews, the idea wasn't for any weapon in the game to directly resemble any existing version of a real-life gun, rather they're designed to look interesting when viewed from above and to the left. So the M16 is more designed as a hybrid that conveys M16-ness, rather than to actually look like a particular version of it. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 06:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Just a note on your forum topic on Halo ==

Too lazy to register, but there is ''one'' gun in Halo that's real; the Sniper Rifle is almost a carbon copy of the [http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn55-e.htm NTW-20]. Still, a whole page for one gun still doesn't make sense, so you're right about that. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 08:09, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Policy question ==

Just wondering; as far as IMFDB is concerned, when does a gun stop being a gun? I ask because I'm working on the article for Crysis at the moment; there's a few obviously fictional weapons [alien guns that fire ice beams, and such] which I'm not sure should stay there, and because the American tank's 120mm gun is a British L11A5; is that something that can be listed, or is there a line after which guns become too big to mention? I notice WW2-related articles don't usually feature towed guns like the big 88s, which is why I'm cautious about including it. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 08:49, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
*Fair enough, I'll knock the more obviously inappropriate entries off when I get some extra screenshots and check a few things more carefully. Thanks. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 09:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

==Team America==
Though I despise the carton entries, I kinda disagree with deleting the Team America World police page. I know some of the model builders and their scaled down models were amazing. Ultimately, it's no big deal, the page should NOT exist until someone screencaps these amazing down scaled guns. But I 'may' do that sometime in the future. Unlike artwork, these models actually existed and were based on real guns, despite the fact that they were wielded by puppets. There are far worse offenders on IMFDB ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==artists rendition of guns==
Well the same could be said for the countless VIDEO GAMES on this site. Some of the renditions are so vague, the users are just making wild guesses as to what guns they are. Just a note, most of the real world armorers don't like listing Video games since we're completely out of the equation and no real world gun exists. Also the VG designers seem to delight to putting in artistic renditions of the most obscure and recent FOREIGN guns which have never and will never appear in a movie (like the Russian weapons) since no armory, here or abroad has those weapons in inventory. I was looking at some of the weapons (not obvious ones like the WW2 ones which are clear what they are supposed to be) but some of the more 'tactical' custom jobs. WTF? Like the so called Winchester 1200 shotgun in [[Modern Warfare 2]]. The 'real' gun pic, that's no Winchester 1200, and the photo is of a Winchester 1300 Stainless Marine with ATI Stocks. The 1200s are no longer made. And yet someone figured it was a 1200 based on a hard to see video graphic. Anyway, VG bug the hell out of me, but it's not cut and dry. Some of the games very clearly show specific weapons, some are just too unclear to be sure. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:47, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== VG guns ==
*quote*
Well some games can be forgiven to be a little bit lack of detail, but quite a few games do go out, record the sound of the real gun shots and use those in the final production, the bigger problem most gamers has with VG guns is more on their accuracy and power compared to the real thing. VG developers sometimes significantly just make guns that would be powerful and accurate as hell weak as fuck for the sake of game balance. And going with Modern Warfare 2, some of the guns are just stupid for what real world special forces would use. I mean the Bushmaster ACR? I can see how it has military uses, but I don't even think it was even considered for military use. Russian Ultranationalist using AUGs and FAMAS? Spas 12s? Oh yeah and the one big thing a Kriss Super V. That thing last I heard wasn't even in full production yet and they somehow have Russian terrorists get ahold of one? At least with COD4, they were semi consistent with what primary guns people use, the SAS and Marines using M4 weapons, the enemy using AKs, but the random USPs, Berettas and the one mission where you as the SAS trooper holding and M24 sniper rifle was just piss poor. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
*quote*
:Remember, it's a game, not a simulation. Realism cannot get in the way of fun, in the minds of production teams. MPM told me to put this here, rather than his page. This response, that is.-protoAuthor

== Ok, I think this is about done. ==

Spent a fair bit of last night screencapping [if you're wondering why the second account, I forgot the password to this one and was on my other PC], so I'm interested in what you think of the result: [[Crysis]]. Anything not there that should be or there that shouldn't? [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 05:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

==Check out this link ... too funny....==
http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=358657

==You puppet hater you!==
Come on! You gotta admit, It's freaking hilarious! I assume the person who wrote that saw the 'recent changes' log and saw that you deleted four non-live action pages in rapid order. Don't take it personally. :) I was laughing so hard I spit my coke on the board! I mean, people talk about US and the stuff WE do on other forums. It's funny. At least I was very amused by it. Just don't let the nickname 'Puppet killer' stick! hahahahaha! Sorry again, I'm having too much fun with this. ;) Forgive me. :) Personally I was glad you finally 'snapped' and deleted those STUPID animated pages. It really pushed the envelope of what IMFDB is all about. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

==Template==
To the mods: Though my own preference is strongly towards chronological order, I can accede to the wishes of the majority. I do like the format of Title First, before actor. Please note all, in the [[Steyr AUG]] page that the title, then character, then actor template, dovetails nicely into the other genres (television) but also Anime and Video games. Since there is no Character in some and no Actor in Anime or Videgame, I think this order maintains the same look from Film all the way down to VG. Thanks and please look at the page to see what I was referring to. Thanks again and I look forward to your input on this matter. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Evangelion==

If policy says not to talk about Evangelion guns, then please delete the images I've already uploaded then unprotect the page so I can write up about the real guns in the series.--[[User:V|V]] 03:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

==I'm back briefly==
Just dealing with a bunch of Indies who want guns... And as you well know, sometimes the production has no idea what they want ... and when they want it. Ugh! But I'm slammed with work so if you send me any messages, I apologize for not responding in a timely manner. best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

==Found this on Matt's page==
"I do agree with the fact we should prohibit and make sure people understand that we have to understand the fact that we can't post images of movies unreleased on DVD no matter how high quality they might be as some I've found. And Gunmaster, you're 15, so I don't think you would bash your own age group. I don't remember what it was like being that age. - You"

You'd be surprised, I actually don't like most people in my age group because in my town they're all a bunch of dumbasses. My town is a strange one, 30% of kids are sheep-fucking hicks, 30% of kids are lazy potheads who get in trouble with the cops often, and then I make up some of the 10% of ''normal'' people, although people know I like guns so somehow, ''I'm'' the wierd one. Anyway, I prefer to hang out with people who are older (from 18 to 50+) and know how to have fun, but aren't idiots at all time. So, in a way, I do bash my own age group. Just clearing that up. ;) BTW, check out ''[[Face/Off]'' so far, I'm not done yet but I'm trying to finish it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==MAS-36==
Hey I noticed you were the one who deleted the MAS-36 page. Was there a particular reason (i.e.: page creator was being immature), and would it be okay for me to recreate it? -[[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 21:32, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

== Yo! ==
Yo Excalibur, can i talk to you on MSN? It's about airsoft. I wanna get into this Airsoft thing.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:16, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

==YNH==
I think he was planning on revamping the page in full, which is why he's changing the format. I don't know, you should talk to him about this.

BTW, if you'd like to redo the format on the Mail Call page, feel free. I really don't look forward to fixing the format of such a monstrous page, as finding the time to do it all is difficult. If you do change it though, don't remove screencaps. I'll later decide what stays and goes. ;) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Dunno if I'm too late, but is everything cool now? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:28, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

::Hmmmm, well, I don't agree with what he did. Even if he doesn't want to do it by gun type, something else would be nice to break up the size of the page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::Alright, will do. In the meantime, you could change the Protection level to Sysops only, if you wanted, though that might bring about cries of abuse of power. Hopefully, we can resolve this through discussion instead. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

==Deletion of content in District 9==

Hi, I was just wondering why you deleted the entry for the alien weapon in District 9, since fictional weapons are allowed to be listed if they play particularly important roles in the movie (and the weapon definitely is important if it is being used by a main character). [[User:Markit|Markit]]

:Direct me to where it saids fictional weapons are allowed. I mean if the weapon is a plastic shell over a real gun, but I have yet to see any indication of us allowing weapons that don't exist. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

::How about previous examples such as the '''Sonic gun''' in ''[[Minority Report]]'', the '''The Bio Force Gun v3.14''' in''[[Doom]]'', or the [[Bazookoid]] from ''[[Red Dwarf]]''?. None of those were built over actual weapons either and their effects were simulated. [[User:Markit|Markit]]

==(here is a note I've been posting around IMFDB)==
''I recently had the unpleasant experience of having some of the performers being insulted in some of our movie pages see what some of the IMFDB members write. there are some pretty condescending remarks regarding horrible grips, gun stance, bad gun discipline and blinking while shooting. I'm trying to promote the website and it's embarrassing to see actors getting insulted for pretty trivial reasons. What are your thoughts regarding this?

See below:''

'''I'm asking all members to stop with the sarcastic comments in the screencap descriptions'''
Too many members feel it's funny to be extremely sarcastic about actor's shooting stance, their blinking, their pistol grips. Only if it's so over the top as for the average person to notice, then don't keep on harping on it. Most actors are given only a bare amount of time to train, if at all. Many times the editor picks the worst take for pistol grip, but best take for other reasons like acting. Also much of the blame falls on the director. Some directors don't want to be bothered trying to train the actors and don't allow us armorers to even give them more training than the minimum safety training. People in the industry check out this website, and some think we're a bunch of obnoxious kids. I am not happy when people in 'the biz' look at the site and scoff at the snarky remarks. Some of them are the actual actors being insulted. We can always put in criticism, but IMFDB members going forward going to criticize a film, should try to do so in a scholarly manner or not at all. Thanks for your cooperation [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:53, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==Check this user==
Someone made a change on the [[Miami Vice - Season 3]] page in the Smith & Wesson Model 686 section. He wrote ni&&er below one of the pics.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:23, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Forum login ==

Is your forum login working again? If you need to get a hold of me best bet is on my discussion page as it also sends me an email. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 04:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

==Mafia Wars==
I'm wondering if you could delete the entry for [[Mafia Wars]] as it's a nasty little flash game popular on both Myspace and Facebook. As it's a flash game it's against forum policy and even the creator of the page admit's that it's not kosher.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 07:07, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

==Heroes SVI Infinity==

Hey, Excal,

Since you did a lot of the work on our ''[[Heroes]]'' page, I thought you might like this picture that I was just sent...

[[Image:IMG 1509.JPG|thumb|none|400px|A Strayer Voight Infinity in .45 ACP. This is one of the actual guns that has been used by The Company henchmen on ''Heroes''; this weapon was supplied to the show by Independent Studio Services and has been used on every season.]]

-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:24, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

==RD protection change==
You do know, the moment some 12 yr old puts on 15 screencaps for a single gun entry, I'm re-protecting the page ;) This page (like a few choice others) seems to attract noobs who not only screw up pages, but are relentless. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:24, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

==Winchester Model 1887 in Sherlock Holmes==
I've seen the guard in the carriage load a shell into a shotgun with a pistol grip so it may be a Winchester Model 1887 as the movie is set in 1891 and it was available at that time. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 16:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

==BDSII==

It's cool you're working on ''The Boondock Saints II'', but I have to warn you: I have the movie on Blu-Ray and I have been meaning to do the page for a while. I'll be way too busy to do the page before May 5th (it's crunch time for me), but I ''do'' intend to do it. Not sure if that changes how you feel about what you're doing now, but just be advised: Blu-Ray screencaps are inevitable. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:10, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Screencapping films ==

If you're looking for a good program for screencaps, I use VLC player. I sometimes have to tweak the video settings to brighten or sharpen the image, but I find it's the best for capturing stills. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 04:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

:Yeah, I echo Ben. I prefer VLC myself. It has issues of its own (it tends to crash on me whenever I use the frame-by-frame playback to capture stills from Blu-Rays, and sometimes even from standard-def DVDs), but it's overall the best I've ever tried. Doing PRNT-SCRN in WMP sucks, and is too time-consuming. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:09, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

==Vandal==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/66.103.187.149
--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 00:39, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:Alienqueen already took care of it. He created an article saying "this gun is cool BOOBIES" --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 04:18, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Another one
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/76.209.220.230
--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 19:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

==The Transformers 3 page==
Just a note, that the guy creating the page is a guy I banned for two weeks (see the forum for a thread about this). I found it interesting that the first thing he does when he gets back is to put up a page which is bound to set off red flags.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:35, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
::Well, the facebook page is an official movie page from the production company. They would not have allowed the release of the photos if they did not want it. So the Behind the scenes pics seem to have been formally 'released' by the production company. So they're technically LEGAL. What this USER has to do is to not be an idiot when it comes to disclosing on the page itself just WHERE the information and photos come from. He still types with no punctuation and with an attitude. But technically right now, nothing that warrants any punitive action. I suppose one of us will have to write on the page a formal disclaimer that the images and information come from publicly released stills from the studio. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:54, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

This is a crock of shit and you know it is. Just because you have SOME power and some little shitty site mean that you have ALL the power and you know everything. Its fucking Facebook. There are loads of "official" facebook groups that arnt made by the company and they dont give a fuck. If they did they'd be blocked wouldnt they? Yes! And how the fuck is it Endangering IMFDB??? It doesnt affect imfdb you fucking moron. It has NOTHING to do with this group at all. Your group is that small that no one, except for a few slack jawed yokels care about it. Guns! come on. Your kidding no-one with your brovado. Your full of shit! Just because you live with your mum and dad at 35 and masturate over your dads gun collection, dont try and be so tyranical with your powers. Lol powers. I feel ashamed t say that. Fuck all powers LOL. Purge! Is this the 16th century or somthing! Why ahve you called youself Excalibur when this is a gun site! And one final but ironic point is, have you asked yourself but have you got all the rights to everything that you write on here? Have you gone to every company and asked them that you can use there information on here. Have you fucking. Your a fucking hypocrite. Trying to be righteous. I hope that this wikia does get shut down because your power hungry and too idiotic to run a site at all. Your really are a sad little (well large) person who needs to get out more and Mean REAL people. Not playing World of War craft all day or watching your pedoish animia in your room. I hope you can get a life on day you large bitched titted lard arsed cunt. I only joined this group it insult you :). I hope you enjoy this Yanky boy!

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