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TheDon152: /* Walther PPK */

'''The following guns were used in the television series ''24'''''

Note: It is an interesting detail that Walther firearms are seen being used by bad guys in every season of 24, and the only time Jack Bauer ever uses one (a stolen PPK) it jams on him. The killer Mandy, David Conlon, various henchmen, and several other baddies are all seen wielding Walthers. Interesting note. In the new season 7, David Emerson is seen using a SW99, basically a S&W clone of the ''Walther'' P99

Most of the first 6 seasons are not complete in screencapping you may skip down to Season 7 to see screencaps.

==Season 1==
[[Image:24Season1.jpg‎|thumb|right|200px]]
===SIG-Sauer P228/SIG-Sauer P229===
Jack Bauer's ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) weapon of choice throughout Season 1 is the [[SIG-Sauer_P220_pistol_series#SIG_P228|SIG-Sauer P228]] with a nickel-plated slide. An interesting and well-known goof is that in several scenes, the gun changes from the [[SIG-Sauer_P220_pistol_series#SIG_P228|SIG-Sauer P228]] to a [[SIG-Sauer_P220_pistol_series#SIG_P229|SIG-Sauer P229]].

[[Image:Two Tone Sig Sauer P228.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[SIG-Sauer_P220_pistol_series#SIG_P228|Two Tone SIG-Sauer P228]]]]
[[Image:Jack Bauer shoots Nina with a flak jacket with his Sig Sauer P228.jpg|thumb|none|400px|At 6:00A.M. - 7:00A.M. Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) shoots Nina Myers ([[Sarah Clarke]]) with his [[SIG-Sauer_P220_pistol_series#SIG_P228|Sig Sauer P228]] because he is being watched by Ira Gaines ([[Michael Massee]]) threatening to kill his family if he does not follow his orders. (But Ira Gaines ([[Michael Massee]]) did not know Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) put a flak jacket on Nina Myers ([[Sarah Clarke]]) back at CTU)]]
[[Image:S1e12f1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Jack threatens to kill Kevin Carrol ([[Richard Burgi]]) with his [[SIG-Sauer_P220_pistol_series#SIG_P228|Sig Sauer P228]] if he does not take him to his kidnapped family during 11:00A.M. - 12:00P.M.]]
[[Image:S1e12f3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) threatens Rick Allen ([[Daniel Bess]]) with his (sound suppressed) [[SIG-Sauer_P220_pistol_series#SIG_P228|Sig Sauer P228]] because he thinks he kidnapped his family during 11:00A.M. - 12:00P.M.]]
[[Image:S1e13f2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) aims his gun at one of Ira Gaines ([[Michael Massee]]) but he gets a radio message and leaves during 12:00P.M. - 1:00P.M.]]
[[Image:S1e13f8.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) dodges a bullet from Ira Gaines ([[Michael Massee]]) gun and leaves him no choice to shoot and kill him during 12:00P.M. - 1:00P.M.]]

===Beretta M92FS===
Richard Walsh ([[Michael O'Neill]]) uses a (sound suppressed) [[Beretta_92_pistol_series#Beretta_92FS|Beretta M92FS]] when he is taking fire from well trained assassins during 1:00A.M. - 2:00A.M. This gun is also used by Ira Gaines ([[Michael Massee]]) men about to execute the Bauer family during 7:00A.M. - 8:00A.M.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Beretta M92F|Beretta M92FS]]]]
[[Image:The Bauers are threatened with execution.jpg|thumb|none|350px|The Bauers are threatened by Ira Gaines ([[Michael Massee]]) men with a [[Beretta M92F|Beretta M92FS]] during 7:00A.M. - 8:00A.M.]]

===Uzi===
Rick Allen ([[Daniel Bess]]) grabs a [[Uzi|IMI Uzi 9mm]] during the rescue of Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) family during 11:00A.M. - 12:00P.M. Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) uses a [[Uzi|IMI Uzi 9mm]] to set off a car explosion during 11:00A.M. - 12:00P.M.

[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Uzi|IMI Uzi 9mm]]]]
[[Image:S1e12f7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Rick Allen ([[Daniel Bess]]) & Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) dive from an explosion with a [[Uzi|IMI Uzi 9mm]] sitting next to them during 11:00A.M. - 12:00P.M.]]

===Norinco NDM-86 (chambered in .308)===
Ira Gaines ([[Michael Massee]]) hunts Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) through the woods at the compound with a [[Norinco NDM-86]] chambered for .308. The [[Norinco NDM-86]] is a clone of the Soviet Dragunov SVD manufactured in China. The squared off shape of the box magazine shows the chambering as being in .308 rather than the curved magazine for the rifle's original 7.62x54R cartridge.

[[Image:7653.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Norinco NDM-86]] 7.62mm x 51mm NATO]]
[[Image:S1e12f6.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ira Gaines ([[Michael Massee]]) and Kevin Carrol ([[Richard Burgi]]) snipe and shoot the get away vehicle used by Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) during 11:00A.M. - 12:00P.M.]]

===Heckler & Koch MP5A2===
CTU tactical teams are all carrying [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A2|Heckler & Koch MP5A2's]] during the rescue of Jack Bauer's ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) family during 12:00P.M. - 1:00P.M.

[[Image:H&KMP5A2WideForearm.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A2|Heckler & Koch MP5A2 9mm]]]]
[[Image:S1e13f7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Jack Bauer's ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) family are rescued with CTU personal armed with [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A2|Heckler & Koch MP5A2 Sub Machine Guns during 12:00P.M. - 1:00P.M.]]]]

===[[Glock#Glock 17|Glock 17]]===
Alexis Drazen ([[Misha Collins]]) kills Kevin Carrol ([[Richard Burgi]]) with his [[Glock#Glock 17|Glock 17 9mm]] to tie up loose ends. Agent Ted Paulson ([[Kevin Ramsey]]) draws his [[Glock#Glock 17|Glock 17 9mm]] after knowing there's a security breach at the safe house during during 3:00P.M. - 4:00P.M.]]

[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Glock#Glock 17|Glock 17]]]]
[[Image:S1e14f5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Alexis Drazen ([[Misha Collins]]) kills Kevin Carrol ([[Richard Burgi]]) with his [[Glock#Glock 17|Glock 17 9mm]] to tie up loose ends during 1:00P.M. - 2:00P.M.]]
[[Image:Paulson.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Agent Ted Paulson ([[Kevin Ramsey]]) draws his [[Glock#Glock 17|Glock 17 9mm]] after knowing there's a security breach at the safe house during 3:00P.M. - 4:00P.M.]]

===[[Heckler_%26_Koch_USP|Heckler & Koch USP 9mm]]===
Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) takes two [[Heckler_%26_Koch_USP|Heckler & Koch USP 9mm's]] into the climactic gunfight with the Drazens during 11:00P.M. - 12:00A.M. and fires them akimbo for the majority of the fight, killing a Drazen henchman and Andre Drazen ([[Željko Ivanek]]) in this manner. After being wounded by Viktor Drazen ([[Dennis Hopper]]), Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) then kills him with his one remaining [[Heckler_%26_Koch_USP|USP]], emptying the magazine into his body.
[[Image:USP9mm.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Heckler_%26_Koch_USP|Heckler & Koch USP]]]]
[[Image:Jack 2 usp's.png|thumb|none|400px|Jack with his 2 [[Heckler_%26_Koch_USP|Heckler & Koch USP's]] during the Drazen shootout at the docks.]]

==Season 2==
[[Image:24Season2.jpg‎|thumb|right|200px]]
===[[SIG-Sauer_P220_pistol_series#SIG_P228|SIG-Sauer P228]]===
Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) continues to use a CTU-issued [[SIG-Sauer_P220_pistol_series#SIG_P228|SIG-Sauer P228]] pistol in the second season.

===Uzi===

===S&W 3913 LS===

===Beretta M92FS===

===SW Model 60===

===Beretta 92FS Inox===
Jack Bauer ([[Sutherland]]) takes a [[Beretta_92_pistol_series#Beretta_Inox|Beretta 92FS INOX 9mm]] off of Eddie Grant ([[Douglas O'Keeffe]]) in Episode 4 (11:00 am - 12:00 pm) when he breaks from his undercover identity to get the address of Grant's boss, Joseph Wald. When Grant's buddies see the action, though, a gunfight ensues, and Bauer uses both the Beretta and his own revolver to eliminate them. Grant takes several rounds in the face from the Beretta.

===P2A1 Flare Gun===
Used by Jack to kill a Coral Snake Commando in Episode 9 (4 p.m. - 5 p.m.)

===M4A1 Carbine===
[[M16_rifle_series#M4A1 Carbine|M4 Carbines]] were used by the Coral Snake Commandos, Jack Bauer and Nina Myers in Episodes 9 and 10. (4 p.m. - 5p.m., & 5p.m. - 6p.m.) Outfitted with ACOG Sight, Foregrip, AN/PEQ2A Laser Aiming Module and 20 round magazine.

[[Image:Ninajackm4.png|thumb|right|300px|Nina Myers holding the M4A1 Assault Rifle.]]

===Heckler & Koch MP5A2===
[[Heckler Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A2|Heckler & Koch MP5A2's]] were used by members of the CTU Tactical Team.

===MAC-10===

===Heckler & Koch USP===
When Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) is revived after being tortured to a near-death state, his initial torturer is killed and Raymond O'Hara ([[Bryan Goodman]]) takes over. But as he attempts to get information from Jack, a doctor forced to help him attacks him instead, allowing Bauer to grab Raymond's gun - a suppressed [[Heckler_%26_Koch_USP|Heckler & Koch USP]]. Bauer dispatches Raymond and his guards, and later uses it to subdue several racists who kidnapped Kate Warner ([[Sarah Wynter]]) and got ahold of an important computer chip.

===Walther PPK===
[[Image:Jack Walther ppk.png|thumb|none|300px|Jack attempts to fire the empty Walther PPK.]]
In the Season 2 finale, one of Peter Kingsley's ([[Tobin Bell]]) henchmen has a [[Walther_PP_Pistol_Series#Walther_PPK|Walther PPK]] in an ankle holster. During a fight with Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]), he tries to use it with no success, discharging the weapon several times. A few minutes later, Jack tries to use it against Kingsley himself, but to no avail - the gun is empty.

===Heckler & Koch SR9T===

===Glock 19===

==Season 3==
[[Image:24Season3.jpg‎|thumb|right|200px]]
===Heckler & Koch USP Compact===
Starting with the third season, the [[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP Compact|Heckler & Koch USP Compact]] replaces the [[SIG-Sauer_P220_pistol_series#SIG_P228|SIG-Sauer P228]] as Jack Bauer's weapon of choice.

[[Image:USPCompact9.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch USP Compact - 9mm.]]

===Glock 19===
Michelle Dessler ([[Reiko Aylesworth]]) is seen using a Glock 19 in the Chandler Plaza Hotel.

[[Image:Glock19pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 19 - 9mm.]]

===Smith & Wesson Model 66===
Used in the Russian roulette sequence that takes place during the prison riot.

[[Image:S&W66-1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 66 .357 Magnum.]]

===Beretta M92FS===

===Heckler & Koch MP5A2===
Used by members of the CTU Tactical Team

===Remington 870===
Used by prison guards and later by
Ramon during His and Jack's escape.

===M1911?===
Hector allows his brother in law to fire what looks like a M1911.

===Walther PPK===
I believe it was a Walther PPK handed to Jack to "kill" chase.

It looked more like a Makarov PM.[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]] 03:22, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

===AK-47===
Used by several cartel members.

===Sig-Sauer P228===
Used by CTU security personal.

===M60E3===
Used to pin down Jack as he chases Saunders trying to escape in chopper. Also used in the attack at the MI6 office.

===M4 Carbine===
Used by CTU tactical team.

==Season 4==
[[Image:24Season4.jpg‎|thumb|right|200px]]
===Heckler & Koch USP Compact===
Jack Bauer's weapon of choice, used throughout Season 4.

[[Image:USPCompact9.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP Compact|Heckler & Koch USP Compact]]]]
[[Image:Jack uspsd.png|thumb|none|300px|Jack uses a [[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP Compact|USP Compact]] USP Compact during Secretary Heller's rescue.]]

===Sig Pro 2340===
Used by Head of Field Ops Ronnie Lobell. After he is killed in episode 2, Jack Bauer uses this weapon up until he rescues Secretary of Defence Heller.
Also used by Tony Almeida after he is brought into CTU.

===Accuracy International AWP===
Used by Jack Bauer to kill two terrorists before they kill Andrew Paige ([[Lukas Haas]]).

===M4A1 Assault Rifle (Foregrip, M68 Aimpoint, AN/PEQ2A Laser Aiming Module and Tactical Light)===
Used by the US Marines during Episode 6 (12 p.m.- 1 p.m.)

===M16A4 Assault Rifle===
Used by a Marine Marksmen during Episode 6 ( 12 p.m.- 1p.m., after Audrey knifes her Hostage taker in the leg)

===Uzi===
One of the terrorists uses a UZI 9mm during the rescue of Secretary Heller.

===Beretta M92FS===
Several assassins use (sound suppressed) Beretta M92FS during the ambush at Felsted Security.

===Heckler & Koch MP5K===
One of the assassins uses a Heckler & Koch MP5K during the ambush at Felsted Security.

===Steyr SPP===
One of the assassins uses a Steyr SPP during the ambush at Felsted Security.

===Beretta 9000===
Tonys used this gun to save Jack and Audrey at Felsted Security.

===M4 Assault Rifle (Reflex Sight, Tactical Light(Surefire M500A))===
Used by the CTU tactical team in Episode 13 (7 p.m.- 8 p.m.)

===Ruger Mini-14===
Used by Jack when defending the Hunting Store in Episode 13 (7 p.m.-8 p.m.)

===Mossberg 590 Mariner===
Used by Jack when defending the Hunting Store in Episode 13 (7 p.m.-8 p.m.)

===Beretta M92FS===

===Glock===

===Walther P99===
Used by David Conlon when he attempts to kill Jack Bauer and Paul Raines. He succeeds in shooting Paul Raines in Episode 13 (7 p.m.-8p.m.).
Also used by Mandy in the final few episodes, most notably to kill Agent Castle.

==Season 5==
[[Image:24season5.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|right|200px]]
===Heckler & Koch USP Compact===
Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) continues to use a [[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP Compact|Heckler & Koch USP Compact]], chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum, throughout the whole of Season 5, in both suppressed and unsuppressed form. It is most easily seen in the Season 5 opener, in Episode 2 when he offers the gun to Wayne Palmer (D.B. Woodside) - inviting Palmer to kill him if he doesn't believe that he had nothing to do with David Palmer's (Dennis Haysbert) death, Episode 15 during the raid on the natural gas processing plant, and Episode 23, when Bauer kills Christopher Henderson ([[Peter Weller]]) in revenge for Palmer's death, as well as several others.

[[Image:USPCompact9.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch USP Compact - 9mm]]
[[Image:USPC Sub 2.png|thumb|none|300px|Jack with the H&K USP Compact while infiltrating the submarine.]]

===Glock 19===
The Glock 19 is hidden under Jack Bauer's ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) sofa and Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) hands this off to Chloe O'Brian (Mary Lynn Rajskub) when they are being targeted by well trained assassins during 7:00 A.M. - 8:00 A.M. Chloe then uses it to mortally wound assassin Haas ([[Jeff Kober]]) after he is initially shot by Bauer.

[[Image:Glock19pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 19]]

===Glock 17===
The Glock 17 is Curtis Manning's [[Roger R. Cross]] main weapon of choice in suppressed & unsuppressed form, also used by terrorists, Secret Service Director, Agents, local police, Agent Burke Marty Papazian, this is also used by Christopher Henderson Peter Weller, and the US Marshall's Matthew Jones weapon during Jack interrogating Collette Stenger Stana Katic during 9:00 P.M. - 10:00 P.M.

[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 9mm]]
[[Image:24 Season 5 Glock 17 9mm used by Curtis Manning.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 9mm used by Curtis Manning in the penthouse. ]]

===Beretta M92FS===
Beretta M92FS used by local police, One of Erwich's men in supressed form, used by Agent Justin Adam Tracy Howe in sound suppressed form, and also used by the Chief Ranking Officer Don Fischer to inspect the exterior of the submarine 4:00 A.M. - 5:00 A.M.

===Heckler & Koch MP5K===
MP5K in seen in the weapons crate during 8:00 A.M. - 9:00 A.M., it is also during the hostage taking at Ontario airport during 8:00 A.M. - 9:00 A.M., is used by Secret Service during the ambush, used by Petty Officer Tim Rooney Jeremy Ray Valdez to create a distraction for Jack Bauer Kiefer Sutherland after killing a terrorist and taking his weapon 5:00 A.M. - 6:00 A.M.

[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5K]]

===IMI Galil===
The IMI Galil is used by terrorists during 8:00 A.M. - 9:00 A.M.

[[Image:Galil.jpg|thumb|none|300px|IMI Galil]]

===Uzi 9mm===
The Uzi 9mm is used by terrorists during 8:00 A.M. - 9:00 A.M.

===Colt M4===
The Colt M4 is used by CTU Tactical Team, Wayne Palmer with a Night Vision Scope, AN/PEQ-2 aiming module, and a sound suppressor during 9:00 P.M. - 10:00 P.M., and used by the SWAT team in the season finale.

===Heckler & Koch MP5A2===
The Hecler & Koch MP5A2 is used with red dot scopes used by customs swat team, one of the CTU Guards during the Lockdown at CTU, Christopher Henderson's Peter Weller men during the shootout at the bank, and used by Henderson's Peter Weller men during the assualt at the airport hangar during 2:00 A.M. - 3:00 A.M.

===Glock 26===
An assassin uses a (Sound Suppressed) Glock 26 in a murder attempt against Jack Bauer inside CTU.

[[Image:Glock 26.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 26]]

===Sig Sauer P225===

===Heckler & Koch SL8===
Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) poses himself as Christopher Hendersons (Peter Weller) sniper in order to take out the men holding Evelyn Martin's daughter (Skylar Roberge) as hostage for exchange of the vidal tape recorder.

===Glock 18 (silver slide, 33 Round magazine)===
Joseph Malina (José Zúñiga) grabs this machine pistol under his desk holster and wounds Curtis when CTU breaks into his loft.

==Season 6==
[[Image:24Season6.jpg‎|thumb|right|200px]]
===Heckler & Koch USP Compact 9mm===
Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) uses a [[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP Compact|Heckler & Koch USP Compact]], chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum, throughout the whole series of Season 6, in both sound suppressed and unsuppressed form.

[[Image:USPCompact9.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch USP Compact - 9mm.]]
[[Image:24 Season 6 HK USP Compact 9mm side.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Jack Bauer with a Heckler & Koch USP Compact in the Season 6 Photo Gallery.]]
[[Image:Jack right.png|thumb|none|300px|Jack holds his Heckler & Koch USP Compact after the firefight with Abu Fayed ([[Adoni Maropis]])]]

===Glock 17===
Curtis Manning (Roger R. Cross) uses a Glock 17, chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum. Also used by Mike Doyle until he switches to the [[Beretta Px4 Storm]].

[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 9mm]]
[[Image:Doyle fires at Russian guards with a Glock 17.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Doyle fires at Russian guards with his Glock 17]]

===M16A2===
During the arrival of Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) at least 4 military personal prepare to take aggressive action with M16A2 assualt rifles if Jack doesn't cooperate during 6:00 A.M. - 7:00 A.M. This is also carried by the Palmdale Prison guards during 8:00 A.M. - 9:00 A.M.

[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|300px|none|M16A2 5.56mm]]

===M4A1===
During the arrival of Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) at least 2 military personal prepare to take aggressive action with M4 assualt rifles if Jack doesn't cooperate. The CTU tactical team also uses M4A1 Assault Rifles with A Foregrip, M68 sight, and a tactical light) in various episodes.

[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M4A1 5.56mm]]

===Jericho 941===
Abu Fayed (Adoni Maropis) uses a IWI Jericho 941 FL Polimer Frame, chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum in both suppressed and unsuppressed form.

[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Jericho 941 "Baby Eagle"]]

===Beretta M92FS===
Ahmed Amar (Kal Penn) uses a Beretta M92FS while taking the Wallace family hostage during 7:00 A.M. - 10:00 A.M. This pistol was also used by both of Phillip Bauer's (James Cromwell) men during the Season Finale (4:00 A.M - 6:00 A.M.) of the sixth season.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS 9mm]]

===Browning M2===
Some guards in the Palmdale Prison have Browning M2 heavy machine guns mounted on there humvees preparing to move the prisoners on the plane during 8:00 A.M. - 9:00 A.M.

===Remington 870===
The guards outside the detention facility are carrying Remington 870 12 guage shotguns during 8:00 A.M. - 9:00 A.M.

===Walther P99===
Used by one of Abu Fayed's (Adoni Maropis) men during 9:00 A.M. - 10:00 A.M. when Ray Wallace (Raphael Sbarge) delivers the package.

[[Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther P99 9mm]]

===Heckler & Koch 416===
Some members of the CTU tactical team use Heckler & Kock 416 Assualt Rifles with Foregrips, M68 sights, and tactical lights during 9:00 A.M. - 10:00 A.M.

===Steyr SPP===
Used by some of Phillip Bauer's [[James Cromwell]] men during 10:00 A.M. - 11:00 A.M.

===SIG Sauer P229R===

===Heckler & Kock MP5K===
Used by several CTU Tactical members during the rescue of Morris O'Brian during 1:00 P.M. - 2:00 P.M.

===Mossberg 590 (Compact Cruiser)===
Used by Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) during the rescue of Morris O'Brian during 1:00 P.M. - 2:00 P.M.

===Makarov PM===
Used by Jack to kill several Russian guards at the Russian Consulate during 6:00 P.M. - 7:00 P.M.

[[Image:MakarovPM.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Makarov PM 9x18mm PM]]

===Beretta PX4 Storm===
Mike Doyle (Rick Schroder) uses a Beretta PX4 Storm, chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum, throughout the later part of Season 6, in both suppressed and unsuppressed form, after pulling it from a CTU truck. The PX4 is also used by Jack Bauer during the attack on CTU by the Chinese.

[[Image:Px4 Storm.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta Px4 Storm, 9x19mm or .40 S&W]]

===SIG Sauer P228===

===Glock 18===
The lead mercenary Zhou (Ian Anthony Dale) uses a Glock 18 with a stainless slide, and 33 Round magazine while breaking into CTU during 3:00 A.M. - 4:00 A.M.

[[Image:Glock18c_01-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 18 9mm]]

===Heckler & Koch G36C===
While Zhou ([[Ian Anthony Dale]]) and the chinese mercenaries break into CTU Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) takes a Heckler & Koch USP from a dead CTU guard (Terry Savage) shoots the mercenary and picks up his [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|H&K G36C]] with a reflex sight, and Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) also shoots a mercenary with a MP5K folding stock version trying to break in to Josh ([[Evan Ellingson]]), and Marilyns Bauer's ([[Rena Sofer]]) barricade during 2:00 A.M. - 3:00 A.M. This rifle is also used by one of Abu Fayed's ([[Adoni Maropis]]) guards in 7:00 A.M. - 8:00 A.M.

[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch G36C 5.56mm]]
[[Image:6x21j.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Jack saves Marilyn and Josh while wielding an H&K G36C]]

===Heckler & Koch UMP===
One of Zhou's mercnaries uses a Heckler & Koch UMP with his stock unfolded while securing the area during 3:00 A.M. - 4:00 A.M.

[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|300px|H&K UMP .45acp]]

===Heckler & Koch MP5K(PDW)===
Two of Zhou's mercnaries uses a PDW (Personal Defense Weapon) version Heckler & Koch MP5K with there stocks unfolded during 3:00 A.M. - 4:00 A.M.

===Heckler & Koch MP7A1===
Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) uses a Heckler & Koch MP7A1 at the oil refinery shooting oil barrels during his aerial assualt then hands the gun off to Bill Buchanan (James Morrison) during the rescue of Josh Bauer (Evan Ellingson) in the Season Finale (5:00 A.M - 6:00 A.M.) of the sixth season.

[[Image:Hk mp7 b-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP7A1 4.6x30mm with Zeiss Z-Point sight]]
[[Image:Jack mp7.png|thumb|none|400px|Jack using the MP7A1 during the assault on the oil platform.]]

==Season 7==
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===Heckler & Koch USP Compact===
Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) uses a [[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP Compact|Heckler & Koch USP Compact]], chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum, in Season 7 of 24.

[[Image:USPCompact9.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch USP Compact - 9mm.]]
[[Image:24 Season 7 HK USP Compact 9mm front.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Jack Bauer with a Heckler & Koch USP Compact in the Season 7 Photo Gallery.]]
[[Image:24 Season 7 HK USP Compact 9mm side.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Another shot with Jack Bauer with a Heckler & Koch USP Compact in the Season 7 Photo Gallery.]]

===Glock 19===
Agent Renee Walker ([[Annie Wersching]]) is seen with a [[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]] as her standard FBI issued weapon. Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) uses Renee's at the FBI office in Episode 3 after subduing her. In Episode 6, one of Nichol's bodyguards attempts to kill Tony Almeida with a Glock, but is shot by Jack Bauer before he is able to do so.

[[Image:Glock19pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 19 9mm]]
[[Image:WalkersGlock19.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walker's [[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]].]]
[[Image:WalkersGlock192.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walker threatening Vossler's family with her [[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]].]]
[[Image:WalkersGlock193.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walker threatening Vossler's family with her [[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]].]]

===AA-12 (Auto Assault-12)===
During the kidnapping of Michael Latham ([[John Billingsley]]) a mercenary gets on top of a taxi and fires a [[AA-12 (Auto Assault-12)]] with a 20-round magazine to spook civilians to stay back from the crash site in Episode 1.

[[Image:AA12FullAutoShotGun.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[AA-12 (Auto Assault-12)]] with 8 round magazine. ]]
[[Image:AA-12terrorist.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A masked gunman with a [[AA-12 (Auto Assault-12)|AA-12]] gets out of the car. ]]
[[Image:AA-12terrorist2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A masked gunman with a [[AA-12 (Auto Assault-12)|AA-12]] shoots multiple rounds to spook civilians to stay back from the crash site. ]]
[[Image:AA-12terrorist3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A masked gunman with a [[AA-12 (Auto Assault-12)|AA-12]] gets of the taxi. ]]

===SIG SG 552===
During the kidnapping of Michael Latham ([[John Billingsley]]) a mercenary gets out of a kidnap vehicle with a [[SIG SG 550#SIG SG 552|SIG SG 552]] with the stock folded in Episode 1.

[[Image:SIG SG552.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[SIG SG 550#SIG SG 552|SIG SG 552]]]]
[[Image:SG552byterrorist.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A masked gunman with a [[SIG SG 550#SIG SG 552|SG 552]] gets out of the car. ]]
[[Image:SG552byterrorist2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A masked gunman with a [[SIG SG 550#SIG SG 552|SG 552]] cover's the kidnapper. ]]

===Mauser SP66===
Alan Tanner ([[Dameon Clarke]]) kills Gabriel Schector ([[Tommy Flanagan]]), and his body guard with a suppressed [[Mauser SP66]] on top of the Columbian Building in Episode 1. Once again, the assassin is somehow able to fire 2 consecutive shots with a bolt action rifle.

[[Image:Sp66a.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Mauser SP66]]]]
[[Image:7x01-0604.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Alan Tanner ([[Dameon Clarke]]) with a suppressed [[Mauser SP66]]. ]]

===Colt M4A1 Carbine===
FBI agents use [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|Colt M4A1 Carbine]] with RIS foregrips, EOTech sights, and tactical lights to shoot at Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) when he escapes from FBI headquarters in Episode 3. Also used by by president Taylor's military police at the hospital. Because her husband has been shot.

[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|Colt M4A1 Carbine]] with M68 Aimpoint scope and RIS foregrip 5.56mm]]
[[Image:7x03-0494.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FBI agents shooting at Jack and Tony. ]]
[[Image:FBI tacteam M4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FBI agents shooting at Jack and Tony. ]]
[[Image:MilitaryPoliceM16.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Military police protecting the president at the hospital. ]]

===SIG-Sauer P226===
Tony Almeida ([[Carlos Bernard]]) steals a [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P226|SIG-Sauer P226]] from a guard at the FBI office and has kept it ever since. Used by Agent Lennert ([[Wiley M. Pickett]]) when searching for a hostile. Used by FBI Director Larry Moss as his standard sidearm.

[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P226|SIG-Sauer P226]]]]
[[Image:P226byAgentLennert.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Agent Lennert searching for the shooter in the Columbia building. ]]
[[Image:LarrysurrendersP226.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Larry surrendering his [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P226|P226]] to Jack. ]]
[[Image:7x03-0487.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tony covering Jack with his [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P226|SIG-Sauer P226]]. ]]
[[Image:Tony'sP226SD3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tony covering Bill with his suppressed [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P226|P226]].]]

===Beretta 92FS===
During episode 4, Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) suspects Emerson is going to have him killed so he takes a [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92FS|Beretta 92FS]] off of one of Emerson's henchmen Morgan ([[Ian Paul Cassidy]]) and points it to Morgans's head. Emerson ([[Peter Wingfield]]) uses a [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92FS|Beretta 92FS]] during the kidnapping of Prime Minister Matobo.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92FS|Beretta 92FS]]]]
[[Image:Inline 704 recap.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jack threatening to kill Morgan ([[Ian Paul Cassidy]]) with a [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92FS|Beretta 92FS]]. ]]
[[Image:7x04-0551.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Emerson ([[Peter Wingfield]]) holding a guard hostage with a [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92FS|Beretta 92FS]]. ]]
[[Image:Agent with Beretta.jpg|thumb|none|400px|An FBI agent shooting at Jack with a [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92FS|Beretta 92FS]].]]
[[Image:Bill'sBeretta92FS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bill with his [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92FS|Beretta 92FS]].]]

===Smith & Wesson SW99/Walther P99===
David Emerson ([[Peter Wingfield]]) uses a [[Smith & Wesson SW99]]/[[Walther P99]] as his primary sidearm. In episode 5, Emerson gives Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) his SW99 to kill Agent Renee Walker ([[Annie Wersching]]) but Jack instead grazes Walker in the neck, attempting to stage her death to fool Emerson.

[[Image:Sw99 small.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Smith & Wesson SW99]]]]
[[Image:7x04-0255.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Emerson with his [[Smith & Wesson SW99]]]]
[[Image:Inline 705 recap.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jack grazing Agent Walker in the neck with Emersons [[Smith & Wesson SW99|SW99]].]]
[[Image:Emerson's gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Emerson threatening a guard with his [[Smith & Wesson SW99]]. ]]
[[Image:Emerson's SW99.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Emerson with a [[Walther P99]]. For some reason, it has taken the place of his [[Smith & Wesson SW99|SW99]].]]

===Heckler & Koch G36C===
Emerson uses a [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|Heckler & Koch G36C]] during the kidnapping of Sangalan Prime Minister Matobo. Used by 2 mercenary's guarding a building. Also used by a guard during the grocery basement. All equipped with a Leupold CQ/T sight's.

[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|Heckler & Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm]].]]
[[Image:Emerson's G36C 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Emerson checking the street with his [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|Heckler & Koch G36C]].]]
[[Image:Emerson's G36C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Emerson with his [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|Heckler & Koch G36C]].]]
[[Image:Guard with G36C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Guard with a [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|Heckler & Koch G36C]].]]
[[Image:Guard'sG36C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Guard shooting at Renee with his [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|Heckler & Koch G36C]].]]
[[Image:Guard'sG36C2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Guard fatally killed with his [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|G36C]] in his hand.]]

===Heckler & Koch MP7A1===
Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]), and Tony Almieda use [[Heckler & Koch MP7A1|Heckler & Koch MP7A1's]] during the kidnapping. They use them again when they assault Dubaku's [[Hakeem Kae-Kazim]] office along with Bill Buchanan and Renee Walker.

[[Image:Hk mp7 b-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Heckler & Koch MP7A1]] 4.6x30mm with Zeiss Z-Point sight]]
[[Image:7x04-0528.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jack looking for hostiles with his [[Heckler & Koch MP7A1]].]]
[[Image:Jack'sMP73.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jack looking for hostiles. ]]
[[Image:Jack'sMP74.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jack taking cover from a charge from C4 high explosive. ]]

===AIG Asymmetric Warrior ASW338LM===
Jack Bauer ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) uses the AIG Asymmetric Warrior ASW338LM, a .338 Lapua Magnum Modular Precision Sniper Rifle fitted with a bipod and a laser sight to cover Tony Almieda during the meeting with Nichols in Episode 6. There is a common glitch of Jack shooting two shots under a half a second for a bolt action sniper rifle.

[[Image:Jack's.3382.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jack takes aim with his AIG Asymmetric Warrior ASW338LM.]]
[[Image:Jack's.3385.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A side shot of the AIG Asymmetric Warrior ASW338LM.]]
[[Image:Jack's.338.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jack reloading his AIG Asymmetric Warrior ASW338LM. ]]
[[Image:Jack's.3384.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A close shot of the AIG Asymmetric Warrior ASW338LM stock.]]

===SIG-Sauer P228===
Henry Taylor grabs a [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P228|P228]] from his captor's holster, could not tell which variant as he doesn't fire and not clearly seen. Also used by Henry's kidnapper Edward Vossler ([[Mark Kiely]]).

[[Image:Sig-Sauer-P228.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P228|Sig-Sauer P228]]]]
[[Image:Mercenary.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Vossler checking Agent Gibbs pulse. ]]
[[Image:Mercenary2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Vossler making a phone call. ]]

===Unknown M1911===
Colonel Iké Dubaku ([[Hakeem Kae-Kazim]]) used a [[M1911 pistol series|Unknown M1911 pistol]] in Episode 7. There is no clear shot of him using during firefights but could come in next episodes.

[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[M1911 pistol series|Colt M1911]]]]
[[Image:Dubaku'sM19114.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Dubaku ([[Hakeem Kae-Kazim]]) sets his [[M1911 pistol series|M1911]] on the table. ]]

===Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW===
A [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW|Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW]] is seen by a guard being blown up during Jack, Renee, Tony, and Bills assault on Dubakus office in episode 7.

[[Image:MP5K-PDWEarly.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW|Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW 9mm]]]]
[[Image:Guard with MP5K-PDW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A guard blown up with his [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW|Heckler & Koch MP5K-PDW]]. ]]

===Heckler & Koch MP5A3===
Bill Buchanan ([[James Morrison]])used an [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] with tri-rail foregrips in the assault on Dubakus office in episode 7. The gun was also equipped with a C-More sight.

[[Image:MP5A3 StockCollapsed.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]]]
[[Image:Bill'sMP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bill shooting people with his [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3. ]]]]
[[Image:Bill'sMP5A32.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bill with a tactical [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3. ]]]]

===AKMS===
An [[AK-47#AKMS|AKMS]] is wielded by Colonel Dubaku's men at the power plant.

[[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[AK-47#AKMS|AKMS]]]]
[[Image:SangalianwithAK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A guard with a [[AK-47#AKMS|AKMS]]. ]]
[[Image:SangalianwithAK2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|An [[AK-47#AKMS|AKMS]] seen through a car window. ]]

===M72 LAW===
An [[M72 LAW]] rocket launcher is used by Dubaku's men to kill Secret Serivce agents.

[[Image:UnknownRL.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A [[M72 LAW]] rocket launcher blows up a secret service car at the powerplant. ]]

===Steyr SPP===
A [[Steyr TMP#Steyr SPP|Steyr SPP]] (converted to automatic fire) is used by a terrorist at grocery basement shootout.

[[Image:SteyrSPPPistl.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Steyr TMP#Steyr SPP|Steyr SPP]]]]
[[Image:GuardsTMP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Guard watching soccer with his [[Steyr TMP#Steyr SPP|Steyr SPP]] on the couch. ]]
[[Image:GuardsTMP2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Guard shooting at Jack and Renee with his [[Steyr TMP#Steyr SPP|Steyr SPP]]. ]]

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24

2009-02-20T03:22:18Z

TheDon152: /* Walther PPK */

007: Quantum of Solace (VG)

2009-02-20T03:11:38Z

TheDon152: /* Walther PPK */

These are the weapons which appeared in the video game adaptation of [[Quantum of Solace]].

== [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] ==
The [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] pistol appears in the game as the GF18. This of course is a reference to the infamous film [[Goldfinger]].
[[Image:Glock18c_01-1-.jpg|thumb|center|400px|[[Glock#Glock 18C|Glock 18C]] 9mm. This model has compensator cuts on the slide and barrel to reduce muzzle climb while firing.]]

== [[M1911]] ==
A silver-plated [[M1911 pistol series|M1911]] appears in the game as the CR1911. It is named after the 2006 Bond film [[Casino Royale]], and is the main pistol of all other characters aside from Bond in the game. The M1911 has been used in many Bond films and games, starting with [[Dr. No]] in 1962.

== M4 S-System==
The M4 S-System appears in this game as the TND-16. It fires 5.56mm NATO ammunition and comes standard with a R.I.S.-styled rail handguard and pistol grip. It can be outfitted with a suppressor, a holographic red-dot sight and laser (in single player missions only). This weapon is named after the film [[Tomorrow Never Dies]].

== [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] ==
The [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] appears as the SAF 9mm. It comes with tri-rail handguards and a forward pistol grip. The gun can also be modifed with an ARO red-dot scope and a suppressor, and a gold-plated version is available for multiplayer use.
[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with original "slimline" forearm - 9mm]]
[[Image:james-bond-007-game-screenshot.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

== [[Heckler & Koch UMP]] ==
The [[Heckler & Koch UMP]] makes an appearance in this game. It can be equipped with a suppressor and laser.
It's called the SAF .45, even though it clearly has the curved magazine only present on the 9mm UMP. The UMP made several appearances in the film [[Casino Royale]], and is prominent in promotional artwork for [[Quantum of Solace]].
[[Image:Hk ump9.jpg|thumb|center|400px|Heckler & Koch UMP9 9mm (note curved magazine)]]
[[Image:Quantum-of-Solace-20080820014250120 screen001.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

== [[FN SCAR]] ==
The [[FN SCAR]] assault rifle system appears in the game as the MKIII LLD. The name of the weapon is a reference to [[Live and Let Die]].
[[Image:FN_SCAR_-1-.jpg|thumb|center|400px|Fabrique Nationale SCAR-H 7.62x51mm NATO with Aimpoint CompM2 scope and Grippod foregrip]]

== [[Steyr AUG]] ==
The [[Steyr AUG]] apears in the game as the A3 Raker. It is only usable in two levels, Casino Royale and Eco Hotel. However, it is shown in an in-game cutscene during the Sienna level. It apears in multiplayer modes as the "A3 Recon". This weapon is named after the Moonraker film. Despite the A3 designation present in the in-game name, this AUG is actually an A1.
[[Image:AUG A1 508mm 04.jpg|thumb|center|400px|Steyr AUG (5.56mm)]]

== [[AK-74#AKS-74U|AKS-74U]] ==
An [[AK-74#AKS-74U|AKS-74U]] makes an appearance in this game during the Madagascar and Barge stages. Called the FRWL in the game after the film [[From Russia with Love]]. The Kalashnikov series of rifles has been represented in a majority of Bond films and video games, the AKS-74U in particular was used in the movie [[Goldeneye]] and the infamous video game of the same name.
[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|center|400px|AKS-74U (also referred to as the "AKSU" or 'Krinkov') - 5.45x39mm]]

== [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols|Calico]] ==
A [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols|Calico submachinegun]] is used in this game, appearing in the Science Centre and Bregenz stages. The name it is given is the TLD22,
after the film [[The Living Daylights]]. Calicos were also used by Carver security guards in the Bond film [[Tomorrow Never Dies]].
[[Image:CalicoM900.jpg‎|thumb|center|400px|Calico M900 with M951 style foregrip - 9mm]]

== [[M60 machine gun]] ==
The [[M60 machine gun]] appears in the game as the 8-CAT. It is often found in hidden containers as a bonus for exploration.
The weapon's name is of course a reference to the film [[Octopussy]].
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|center|400px|M60 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]

== [[SVD Dragunov]] ==
The [[SVD Dragunov]] appears in the game as the V-TAK. The name comes from the film A View To A Kill. It can be outfitted with a night-vision scope, laser and suppressor.
[[Image:SVD Rifle.jpg|thumb|center|400px|SVD Dragunov sniper rifle - 7.6x54mm R]]

== [[Walther WA 2000]] ==
The [[Walther WA 2000]] sniper rifle is used in this game, under its actual name. It is notable that all Walther firearms actually are referred to by their correct names in this game. The Walther WA2000 was previously used in the film [[The Living Daylights]] by [[Timothy Dalton]] during the pre-title sequence.
[[Image:WA2000.JPG|thumb|center|400px|Walther WA 2000 .300 Win Mag]]

== [[Milkor MGL]] ==
The [[Milkor MGL]] grenade launcher appears in the game under the name of the D.A.D System, after the film Die Another Day. It appears in the Science Centre stage, and is notable as having one of the longest reload times in the game.
[[Image:MGL32.jpg|thumb|center|400px|MGL 40mm]]

== [[Walther P99]] ==
The [[Walther P99]] appears in game as Bond's standard sidearm, using its correct name. It is a current-generation P99, instead of his usual 1st generation that he has carried since Tomorrow Never Dies. The gun fires 9x19mm Parabellum rounds and can be equipped with a suppressor. A gold-plated version is available in multiplayer. It is a goof that Bond doesnt use the PPK, which he does in QOS movie. This is likley due to the the fact that the games delvelopers only had the script and screenshots of the movie to work from.
[[Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg|thumb|center|400px|Walther P99 9mm]]

== [[Walther PPK]] ==
Although never seen or used in the game, the silluettes of the bond girls at the main menu screen are seen holding Walther PPK pistols.
[[Image:Walther-PPK.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Walther PPK in 7.65x17mm Auto]]

== [[M14 Rifle]] ==

== Auto Shotgun==
Resembles a DAO-12, but is magazine fed. Referred to in-game as the A3 Hutchinson.

== Other shotgun, pump action ==
Resembles something of a Benelli.

== [[MAC-10]] ==
Referred to in-game as the Mantis. It can be uprgraded with a laser, and is one of the most common weapons in the game. MAC-10s are commonly used weapons in the Bond films and games.
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|400px|center|MAC-10 open bolt submachine gun - .45 ACP]]‎

== S&W 686 ==
This revolver is a Smith & Wesson Model 686, but it only holds 5 rounds, hinting that it shoots .500 S&W rounds.

== Various grenade types ==

== Nail Gun ==
This weapon is used during the Venice stage, where it is used to kill Gettler, similar to the film [[Casino Royale]]. In the XBOX 360 and PS3 versions of the game, the player is rewarded for shooting Gettler through his blackened lens, mirroring his death in the film.

== Golden gun ==
A gold-plated Smith & Wesson 686. Unlike previous cinematic and viedo game Golden Guns, it is a revolver, not a single-action pistol.
The Golden Gun in the ''novel'' The Man with The Golden Gun, was however a revolver, albeit a [[Colt SAA]] instead of a Smith & Wesson.

[[Category:Video Game]][[Category:James Bond Game]]

007: Quantum of Solace (VG)

2009-02-20T03:11:03Z

TheDon152:

These are the weapons which appeared in the video game adaptation of [[Quantum of Solace]].

== [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] ==
The [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] pistol appears in the game as the GF18. This of course is a reference to the infamous film [[Goldfinger]].
[[Image:Glock18c_01-1-.jpg|thumb|center|400px|[[Glock#Glock 18C|Glock 18C]] 9mm. This model has compensator cuts on the slide and barrel to reduce muzzle climb while firing.]]

== [[M1911]] ==
A silver-plated [[M1911 pistol series|M1911]] appears in the game as the CR1911. It is named after the 2006 Bond film [[Casino Royale]], and is the main pistol of all other characters aside from Bond in the game. The M1911 has been used in many Bond films and games, starting with [[Dr. No]] in 1962.

== M4 S-System==
The M4 S-System appears in this game as the TND-16. It fires 5.56mm NATO ammunition and comes standard with a R.I.S.-styled rail handguard and pistol grip. It can be outfitted with a suppressor, a holographic red-dot sight and laser (in single player missions only). This weapon is named after the film [[Tomorrow Never Dies]].

== [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] ==
The [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] appears as the SAF 9mm. It comes with tri-rail handguards and a forward pistol grip. The gun can also be modifed with an ARO red-dot scope and a suppressor, and a gold-plated version is available for multiplayer use.
[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with original "slimline" forearm - 9mm]]
[[Image:james-bond-007-game-screenshot.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

== [[Heckler & Koch UMP]] ==
The [[Heckler & Koch UMP]] makes an appearance in this game. It can be equipped with a suppressor and laser.
It's called the SAF .45, even though it clearly has the curved magazine only present on the 9mm UMP. The UMP made several appearances in the film [[Casino Royale]], and is prominent in promotional artwork for [[Quantum of Solace]].
[[Image:Hk ump9.jpg|thumb|center|400px|Heckler & Koch UMP9 9mm (note curved magazine)]]
[[Image:Quantum-of-Solace-20080820014250120 screen001.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

== [[FN SCAR]] ==
The [[FN SCAR]] assault rifle system appears in the game as the MKIII LLD. The name of the weapon is a reference to [[Live and Let Die]].
[[Image:FN_SCAR_-1-.jpg|thumb|center|400px|Fabrique Nationale SCAR-H 7.62x51mm NATO with Aimpoint CompM2 scope and Grippod foregrip]]

== [[Steyr AUG]] ==
The [[Steyr AUG]] apears in the game as the A3 Raker. It is only usable in two levels, Casino Royale and Eco Hotel. However, it is shown in an in-game cutscene during the Sienna level. It apears in multiplayer modes as the "A3 Recon". This weapon is named after the Moonraker film. Despite the A3 designation present in the in-game name, this AUG is actually an A1.
[[Image:AUG A1 508mm 04.jpg|thumb|center|400px|Steyr AUG (5.56mm)]]

== [[AK-74#AKS-74U|AKS-74U]] ==
An [[AK-74#AKS-74U|AKS-74U]] makes an appearance in this game during the Madagascar and Barge stages. Called the FRWL in the game after the film [[From Russia with Love]]. The Kalashnikov series of rifles has been represented in a majority of Bond films and video games, the AKS-74U in particular was used in the movie [[Goldeneye]] and the infamous video game of the same name.
[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|center|400px|AKS-74U (also referred to as the "AKSU" or 'Krinkov') - 5.45x39mm]]

== [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols|Calico]] ==
A [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols|Calico submachinegun]] is used in this game, appearing in the Science Centre and Bregenz stages. The name it is given is the TLD22,
after the film [[The Living Daylights]]. Calicos were also used by Carver security guards in the Bond film [[Tomorrow Never Dies]].
[[Image:CalicoM900.jpg‎|thumb|center|400px|Calico M900 with M951 style foregrip - 9mm]]

== [[M60 machine gun]] ==
The [[M60 machine gun]] appears in the game as the 8-CAT. It is often found in hidden containers as a bonus for exploration.
The weapon's name is of course a reference to the film [[Octopussy]].
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|center|400px|M60 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]

== [[SVD Dragunov]] ==
The [[SVD Dragunov]] appears in the game as the V-TAK. The name comes from the film A View To A Kill. It can be outfitted with a night-vision scope, laser and suppressor.
[[Image:SVD Rifle.jpg|thumb|center|400px|SVD Dragunov sniper rifle - 7.6x54mm R]]

== [[Walther WA 2000]] ==
The [[Walther WA 2000]] sniper rifle is used in this game, under its actual name. It is notable that all Walther firearms actually are referred to by their correct names in this game. The Walther WA2000 was previously used in the film [[The Living Daylights]] by [[Timothy Dalton]] during the pre-title sequence.
[[Image:WA2000.JPG|thumb|center|400px|Walther WA 2000 .300 Win Mag]]

== [[Milkor MGL]] ==
The [[Milkor MGL]] grenade launcher appears in the game under the name of the D.A.D System, after the film Die Another Day. It appears in the Science Centre stage, and is notable as having one of the longest reload times in the game.
[[Image:MGL32.jpg|thumb|center|400px|MGL 40mm]]

== [[Walther P99]] ==
The [[Walther P99]] appears in game as Bond's standard sidearm, using its correct name. It is a current-generation P99, instead of his usual 1st generation that he has carried since Tomorrow Never Dies. The gun fires 9x19mm Parabellum rounds and can be equipped with a suppressor. A gold-plated version is available in multiplayer. It is a goof that Bond doesnt use the PPK, which he does in QOS movie. This is likley due to the the fact that the games delvelopers only had the script and screenshots of the movie to work from.
[[Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg|thumb|center|400px|Walther P99 9mm]]

== [[Walther PPK]] ==
Although never seen or used in the game, the silluettes of the bond girls at the main menu screen are seen holding Walther PPK pistols.
[[Image:Walther-PPK.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Walther PPK in 7.65x17mm Auto]]

]]== [[M14 Rifle]] ==

== Auto Shotgun==
Resembles a DAO-12, but is magazine fed. Referred to in-game as the A3 Hutchinson.

== Other shotgun, pump action ==
Resembles something of a Benelli.

== [[MAC-10]] ==
Referred to in-game as the Mantis. It can be uprgraded with a laser, and is one of the most common weapons in the game. MAC-10s are commonly used weapons in the Bond films and games.
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|400px|center|MAC-10 open bolt submachine gun - .45 ACP]]‎

== S&W 686 ==
This revolver is a Smith & Wesson Model 686, but it only holds 5 rounds, hinting that it shoots .500 S&W rounds.

== Various grenade types ==

== Nail Gun ==
This weapon is used during the Venice stage, where it is used to kill Gettler, similar to the film [[Casino Royale]]. In the XBOX 360 and PS3 versions of the game, the player is rewarded for shooting Gettler through his blackened lens, mirroring his death in the film.

== Golden gun ==
A gold-plated Smith & Wesson 686. Unlike previous cinematic and viedo game Golden Guns, it is a revolver, not a single-action pistol.
The Golden Gun in the ''novel'' The Man with The Golden Gun, was however a revolver, albeit a [[Colt SAA]] instead of a Smith & Wesson.

[[Category:Video Game]][[Category:James Bond Game]]

Goldfinger

2009-02-18T22:52:36Z

TheDon152: /* Lee-Enfield Rifle */

'''The following guns were used in the film ''Goldfinger'':'''
[[Image:007Goldfingerposter.jpg|right|300px]]

== Colt New Service ==
During the raid on Fort Knox, Auric Goldfinger ([[Gert Fröbe]]) can be seen carrying a [[Colt New Service]] revolver with a gold-plated finish and ivory grips while disguised as a U.S. Army Colonel, even shooting one of his own men with it to fool Army soldiers during the shootout at the gold depository.
[[Image:Frobe1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Goldfinger brandishes his gold-plated Colt New Service revolver while disguised as a U.S. Army Colonel]]
[[Image:Gf-cns.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Goldfinger shoots one of his workers.]]
[[Image:Gf-cns2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Goldfinger tries to intimidate Bond on his plane.]]

== M1911A1 ==
Oddjob ([[Harold Sakata]]) uses a suppressed [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] to kill Solo ([[Martin Benson]]) while driving him to the airport in the Lincoln.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|300px|none|M1911A1 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:gf34.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Oddjob pulls a silenced M1911A1 on Solo]]

== Smith & Wesson Model 22 ==
While flying to the United States, Bond correctly identifies Pussy Galore's ([[Honor Blackman]]) revolver as a [[Smith & Wesson Model 22]] (when he says "Smith & Wesson .45"), also stating that a bullet fired from the gun would pass through him and the plane.
[[Image:Gf-sw45.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Pussy brushes Bond's face with a Smith & Wesson revolver.]]
[[Image:Gf-sw45b.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Pussy walks Bond through the airport with her .45.]]

== Walther P38 ==
Several of Auric Goldfinger ([[Gert Fröbe]])'s guards can be seen carrying [[Walther P38]] as their sidearms, one of which Bond also manages to comandeer before having to hand it back over to Pussy Galore.
[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther P38 pistol 9mm]]
[[Image:Gf-p38.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bond fires a P38 at Goldfinger's men.]]
[[Image:Gf-p38b.jpg|thumb|none|400px|One of Goldfinger's men holds a P38 on Bond.]]
[[Image:Gf-p38c.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bond with the P38 he stole from his guard.]]
[[Image:Gf-p38d.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Pussy Galore walks Bond back to his cell with his stolen P38.]]

== Walther PPK ==
James Bond ([[Sean Connery]]) keeps a [[Walther PPK]] in his shoulder holster, seen most prominently when a Cuban hitman tries to grab it.
[[Image:Walther-PPK.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Walther PPK 7.65x17mm Auto (.32 ACP)]]
[[Image:GW216H273.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bond with his PPK]]
[[Image:Gf-ppk.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The Cuban assassin reaches for Bond's PPK as he is being electrocuted.]]

== unidentified revolver ==
One of Goldfinger's guards fires a revolver at Bond and Tilly.
[[Image:Gf-rev.jpg|thumb|none|400px|One of Goldfinger's men hanging out of a car with a revolver.]]

== MP40 ==
Goldfinger's guards carry [[MP40]]s, using them in most major gunfights of the film, with even Goldfinger himself using one briefly during the Fort Knox raid. This gun is also being tested on a bulletproof vest in Q's lab. The old lady working as a guard to Goldfinger's facility also carries an MP40.
[[Image:MP40Side.jpg|thumb|none|350px|MP40 - 9mm]]
[[Image:Gf-mp40.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A researcher in Q's lab fires an MP40 to test out body armour.]]
[[Image:Gf-mp40b.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Goldfinger's guard fires at Bond and Tilly with an MP40.]]
[[Image:Gf-mp40c.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The infamous scene where the elderly guard shoots at Bond's Aston Martin with her MP40.]]
[[Image:Gf-mp40d.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Goldfinger himself picks up an MP40 during the raid on Ft. Knox.]]

== Thompson M1A1 ==
U.S. Army soldiers carry [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1A1 Thompson|M1A1 Thompson]]s during the gunfight with Goldfinger's men at Fort Knox.
[[Image:M1sb.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1A1 Thompson .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Gf-tommy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|U.S. Army soldiers with Thompsons and M14s surround Goldfinger inside Ft. Knox, unaware of who he is.]]
[[Image:Gf-tommy2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A soldier with a box-magazine Thompson fires into Ft. Knox.]]
[[Image:Gf-tommy3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A soldier shoots a guard who had Bond in his sights.]]

== Armalite AR-7 ==
Tilly Masterson ([[Tania Mallet]]) is seen twice using an [[Armalite AR-7]] rifle to try and shoot Goldfinger.
[[Image:Gf-ar7.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tilly takes aim with her AR-7.]]
[[Image:Gf-ar7b.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tilly tries to find a position outside Goldfinger's headquarters.]]

== Karabiner 98k ==
Goldfinger's men carry [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles during their raid on Fort Knox.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Karabiner 98k 7.92x57mm Mauser]]

== M1 Carbine ==
U.S. Army soldiers can be seen carrying [[M1 Carbine|M1 Carbine]]s during the gas raid on Fort Knox. They are WW2 Carbines judging by the darker wood Walnut stock and lack of a bayonet lug.
[[Image:M1-Carbine.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|World War Two Era M1 Carbine, with Dark Walnut Stock, 'L' peep sight and no bayonet lug ]]
[[Image:Gf-tommy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|U.S. Army soldiers with Thompsons and M1s surround Goldfinger inside Ft. Knox, unaware of who he is.]]

==M14 rifle==
U.S. Army soldiers at Fort Knox were seen with M14 rifles slung over their shoulders before Fort Knox was hit with knock-out gas by Pussy Galore's crew.

== M1 Garand ==
A M1 Garand rifle can be seen on the weapons wall in Q's research lab.

[[Image:Gf-mp40.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Weapon's wall, the Garand is the third weapon up]]

== Lee-Enfield Rifle ==
A Lee-Enfield rifle can also be seen on the Weapon's wall in Q's lab, I can't really tell what model though.

[[Image:Gf-mp40.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Weapon's wall, the Lee-Enfield is at the bottom.]]

[[Category:Movie]][[Category:James Bond]]

Goldfinger

2009-02-18T22:52:20Z

TheDon152:

Talk:Windtalkers

2009-02-18T22:10:43Z

TheDon152:

More to come. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Looks great so far! The movie itself wasn't so good, but being a John Woo movie, at least the gunplay was exciting enough. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::I think war isn't a place for Woo action. War is more drama/action, not action/drama. I too thought the film was nothing special but it was okay. It really annoys me how whenever the soldiers are pinned down by the Japs, battle hardened Enders runs in and kills them all with his Thompson, firing from the hip. It doesn't allow anyone to take the movie seriously. Plus, apparently all Japs shoot for the legs when someone is running away. At least some training is evident with the actors, like Nick Cage usually has his finger off the trigger and most people use the sights (except the scenes when Enders and Ox come charging in, firing the Thompsons from the hip). Everyone flinches in this movie except Chick and Enders. That's my short gun-nut review of this movie. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Done! How's it look? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

The page is a masterpiece, I changed all of the "Jap" words to Japanese because Jap sounds a little racist, but otherwise, awesome job.[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]] 22:10, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Windtalkers

2009-02-18T22:09:03Z

TheDon152:

AK-47

2009-02-18T21:53:15Z

TheDon152: /* AEK-971 */

'''The AK-47 and variants are used by the following actors in the following movies, television series, anime, and video games:'''

'''NOTE: Please keep in mind that while "AK-47" is often a catch-all term for 7.62x39mm Kalashnikov rifles, most so-called "AK-47s" in movies - particularly American movies - are actually either Egyptian Maadi ARM copies of the highly improved [[AK-47#AKM|AKM]], or variants of the Chinese [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56]]. Please check carefully to make sure that the rifle in question is a true AK-47 and not an AKM or a Chinese Type 56. When in doubt, it is probably safer to assume AKM or Type 56.'''

[[Image:AK-47.jpg|thumb|500px|right|Original AK-47 design, hybrid stamped/milled receiver; 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:Ak_54.jpg|thumb|500px|right|Milled Receiver AK-47 design; 7.62x39mm.]]
==Specifications==

'''Type:''' Assault Rifle

'''Caliber:''' 7.62x39mm

'''Capacity:''' 30, 40 round box magazines, and 75 round drum magazine.

'''Fire Modes:''' Safe/Full-Auto/Semi

== AK-47 ==
It is noteworthy that the U.S. government had a ban on all weapons imported from Warsaw Pact nations during the Cold War years (1947-1989). Communist nations which were not part of the Warsaw pact, such as Yugoslavia and Mainland China, were allowed to negotiate trade agreements with the U.S., thus the influx of Chinese AK type rifles and Yugo AKs (Zastava). The Maadi ARMs (the US version of the MISR) were allowed because Egypt was never a Communist country nor a member of the Warsaw Pact. But, as a result of this, virtually no U.S. movie has a real original AK47 prior to a certain date. The exceptions are, custom build ups after the mid 1990s when original AK-47 rifle kits were available (as was done on "We Were Soldiers", using original blueprints and US made milled receivers), and movies filmed overseas where foreign movie armorers had no such restrictions. This is particularly true for films made in Israel and some parts of Europe. This is not the case now, with the current crop of films made outside the U.S., mostly in the newly democratic Eastern European nations (Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania, Czech Republic, etc.) However, Russia has firmly blocked the export of their old AK-47 surplus guns outside of the country, having distributed most of them to client nations and guerrillas throughout the world in the previous five decades. So the AK47 one 'thinks' one sees may very well be a Poly Technologies Legend series AK (from China) or another AK Variant.

=== Film ===

* N.V.A. soldiers in ''[[We Were Soldiers]]''

* R.U.F. rebels, and [[Leonardo DiCaprio]] as Danny Archer in ''[[Blood Diamond]]''

* Hijackers,Terrorists in ''[[The Delta Force]]''

* Việt Cộng fighters in ''[[Apocalypse Now]]''

* NVA Border Guards in ''[[Escape from East Berlin]]''

* Terrorists fighters in ''[[Jarhead]]'' (footage taken from ''Apocalypse Now'')

* Việt Cộng fighters in ''[[A Better Tomorrow III]]''

* [[Waise Lee]] as Little Wing in ''[[Bullet in the Head]]''

* P.L.O.Terrorists, Ugandan Army soldiers, Israeli Commando in ''[[Raid On Entebbe]]''

* Soviet soldiers in ''[[Rocky IV]]''

* A Cameroon border guard in ''[[Tears of the Sun]]''

* Serbian soldier ''[[Behind Enemy Lines]]''

* African militia in ''[[Hitman]]''

* ANC fighters in ''[[Catch a Fire]]''

* Yuri Orlov ([[Nicolas Cage]]) in ''[[Lord of War]]''

* Ukrainian soldiers in ''[[Godzilla (1998)]]''

* [[Sahara (2005)]]
=== Television ===

* Somali militiamen in ''[[Seven Days]]'' (episode "The Fire Last Time")
* ''[[Tour of Duty]]''

* Iraqi insurgents in ''[[Over There]]''
=== Anime ===

* ''[[Trigun]]''

=== Video Games ===
* ''[[50 Cent: Bulletproof]]''

* ''[[BLACK]]''

* ''[[Grand Theft Auto 3]]''

* ''[[Grand Theft Auto IV]]''

* ''[[Half-Life: Counter-strike - HL: CS Condition Zero]]''

* ''[[Soldier of Fortune: Payback]]''

* ''[[Operation Flashpoint]]''

* ''[[24: The Game]]'' as the AZ7 Soviet.

* ''[[Blacksite: Area 51]]''

* ''[[Scarface: The World is Yours]]'' (can be upgraded with a [[Remington 870]] shotgun attachment.)

* ''[[Kill.Switch]]''

* ''[[Counter Strike: Source]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]''

* ''[[Conflict: Desert Storm 2 Back to Baghdad]]''

* ''[[SOCOM: Combined Assault]]''

* ''[[Project I.G.I]]''

* ''[[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories]]''

* ''[[No One Lives Forever 2 : A Spy In HARM's Way]]''

* ''[[Contract J.A.C.K.]]''

* ''[[Army Of Two]]''

* ''[[Metal Gear Solid:Portable Ops]]''

* ''[[Rainbow Six: Vegas 2]]''

* ''[[Rainbow Six: Vegas]]''

* ''[[Insurgency]]''

* ''[[Counter-Strike Online]]'' (as the CV-47)

* ''[[Battlefield: Vietnam]]'' (used by N.V.A. Soldiers)

* ''[[Battlefield 2]]''

* ''[[Red Alert: A Path Beyond]]''

== AKS-47 ==

[[Image:Aks47e.jpg|thumb|right|450px|AKS-47 7.62x39mm]]

=== Film ===

* Colombian terrorists in ''[[Toy Soldiers]]''

* [[Edward Norton]] as Steve in ''[[The Italian Job (2003)|The Italian Job]]''

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Timesplitters 2]]'' (as the "Soviet SV7", fitted with an [[M203 grenade launcher]])

* ''[[The World Is Not Enough (video game)|The World Is Not Enough]]'' (as the "Soviet KA-57")

* ''[[Soldier of Fortune]]''

== AKM ==
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg‎|thumb|right|450px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:MaadiARM.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Maadi ARM - most of the AKMs seen in movies during the 1980s were imported ARMs that were legally converted to full auto fire. This image is of an actual movie gun. The laminated buttstock was replaced with a hardwood one when the original stock was broken during a stunt. This example is also loaded with a 30-round bakelite plastic magazine - 7.62x39mm]]

The improved version of the AK-47, featuring a number of refinements such as a stamped receiver (as opposed to the milled receiver of the original AK-47), a slant compensator on the tip of the barrel (to reduce recoil), an improved gas tube (without vents), and use of lighter materials to reduce weight and simplify construction.

Most of the AKMs seen in Hollywood movies are actually Egyptian Maadi MISR copies, which were sold in the U.S. as the ARM in the 1980s - such weapons were first procured by Stembridge Gun Rentals for ''[[Red Dawn]]'' and subsequently re-used in numerous other motion pictures. The Maadi is almost identical to the original Soviet-built AKM, save for the markings, and is nearly impossible to tell apart.

=== Film ===

* Soviet soldiers and the "Wolverines" in ''[[Red Dawn]]''

* A terrorist in ''[[The Siege]]''

* [[Reynaldo A. Gallegos]] as Tito Vargas in ''[[Bad Boys II]]''

* Crimson Jihad terrorists and [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] as Harry Tasker in ''[[True Lies]]''

* [[Tommy Lee Jones]] in ''[[The Park is Mine]]'' (with two magazines taped together 'jungle style', loaded with blanks and live rounds)

* Serbian soldiers and [[Owen Wilson]] as Lt. Chris Burnett in ''[[Behind Enemy Lines]]''

* Guerrillas in ''[[Predator]]''

* Libyan terrorists in ''[[Back to the Future]]''

* Afghan Mujahideen in ''[[The Beast of War]]''

* Cuban Army soliders in ''[[Bad Boys II]]''

* Colombian drug cartel henchmen in ''[[XXX]]''

* [[Clint Eastwood]] and various Cuban Soldiers in ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]''

* [[Mel Gibson]] as Detective Martin Riggs in ''[[Lethal Weapon 4]]''

* IRA terrorists in ''[[Patriot Games]]''

* A cartel member in ''[[A Man Apart]]''

* Used by Wild Seven in ''[[Battle Royale II: Requiem]]''

* Arcadia 234 inhabitants in ''[[Soldier]]'' (including one with an [[SVD Dragunov|Dragunov]]-esque stock)

* Escobedo's men in ''[[Clear and Present Danger]]''

* Nigerian militia fighters and refugees in ''[[Tears of the Sun]]''

* Lycans in ''[[Underworld]]''

* Iraqi soldiers, Shiite refugees, and the main protagonists of ''[[Three Kings]]''

* Bank robbers and gang members in ''[[S.W.A.T.]]'' ''(including two fitted with high-capacity drum magazines)''

* Rwandan Army soldiers in ''[[Hotel Rwanda]]''

* Sal's men in ''[[RoboCop]]''

*Arius' men in ''[[Commando]]''

* ''[[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]]''

* Vietnamese and Russian troops in ''[[Rambo: First Blood Part II]]''

* Mujahideen and the Russians in ''[[Rambo 3]]''

* Gang members in ''[[Escape from LA]]''

* resistance member in ''[[Equilibrium]]''

* Russians in ''[[Eraser]]''

* Johnny Wong's thugs in ''[[Hard Boiled]]''

* Guards in ''[[Air Force One]]''

* Burmese Junta Soldiers in ''[[Rambo (2008)]]''

* Thug in ''[[The Replacement Killers]]''

* ''[[Charlie Wilson's War]]''
=== Television ===

* Abu Fayed's men in ''[[24]]''

* Iraqi insurgents and soldiers in ''[[Over There]]''

* Rebels in a parallel universe in ''[[Doctor Who (New series)|Doctor Who]]''

* Terrorists in ''[[The Unit]]''

* [[Carl Ciarfalio]] as Hank Connors in ''[[CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]]'' (episode "Leapin' Lizards")

* ''[[Ultimate Force]]''

* ''[[The X-Files]]''

* ''[[The A-Team]]''
=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Uncharted: Drake's Fortune]]''

* ''[[Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops]]

* ''[[Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2]]''
== AKMS ==
[[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|right|450px|AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]]
Basically the same as the AKM, but the rear-trunion is altered with a swiveling mechanism to allow for the under-folding stock. The AKMS nomenclature also indicates that the rifle is not a milled receiver variant and has the AKM style of gas block, top cover, barrel assembly, front sight, and appropriate forearm furniture.

=== Film ===

* [[Claire Danes]] as Katherine Brewster and [[Nick Stahl]] as John Connor in ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]'' (with shortened barrel and dual-mag clamp)

* U.S. Navy SEALs in ''[[Navy SEALs]]''

* Soviet soldiers in ''[[The Beast of War]]''

* Colombian terrorists in ''[[Toy Soldiers]]''

* A bank robber in ''[[S.W.A.T.]]''

* Rwandan Army soldiers in ''[[Hotel Rwanda]]''

=== Television ===

* [[Kiefer Sutherland]] as Agent Jack Bauer in ''[[24]]''

* ''[[Tour of Duty]]''

*''[[Tremors: The Series]]''

===Video Games===

* ''[[Battlefield Vietnam]]'' (used by Việt Cộng soldiers)

== AKMSU ==
Chopped and shortened AKMS underfolder, made to resemble the [[AKS-74U]] except that it is still a 7.62x39mm gun.

''NOTE: The AKMSU manufactured by the Soviet Union featured an under-folding stock and a thumbhole grip under the barrel. Most of the so-called "AKMSU" carbines seen in Hollywood movies, such as ''[[A Man Apart]]'' and ''[[Bad Boys II]]'', are actually full-size AK variants that have been converted with Krinkov parts kits; many feature side-folding [[AKS-74U]]-style stocks that the real, Soviet-made AKMSU never had.''

[[Image:YugoKrinkov.jpg|thumb|right|300px|AKMSU (Crvena Zastava M92) 7.62x39mm]]

=== Film ===

* Haitian gang members and a Cuban Army soldier in ''[[Bad Boys II]]'' (the soldier using one with an [[AKS-74U]]-type folding stock)

* A Cartel member in ''[[A Man Apart]]''

* [[Philip Kwok]] as Mad Dog in ''[[Hard Boiled]]''

* Bodyguards in ''[[Ronin]]''

* [[Saki Sakurai]] as Wild Seven in ''[[Battle Royale II: Requiem]]''

* An Iraqi Officer in ''[[Three Kings]]''

* A militia fighter in ''[[Tears of the Sun]]''

=== Television ===

* ''[[CSI: Miami]]''

* Serbian soldiers in ''[[Seven Days]]''

==Norinco Type 56==

[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Norinco Type 56 (fixed stock variant) with under-folding bayonet ("pig sticker") - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Type56Standard.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Norinco Type 56 (Imported into the U.S. as the Norinco AKS-47 or AKS-47 Sporter) - 7.62x39mm. This particular gun lacks the "pig sticker" bayonet seen on the model above, which was standard on PLA-issue Type 56s, but much rarer on the export versions.]]
[[Image:Type56S.jpg‎|thumb|right|450px|Norinco Type 56-1 (under-folding stock variant) - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Type56-2.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Norinco Type 56-2 (side-folding stock variant) - 7.62x39mm]]

The Chinese Type 56 (manufactured by China North Industries Corporation, or Norinco) is by far the most commonly-seen AK derivative in Hollywood productions, both film and television. They are frequently seen impersonating Russian weapons in many films, since the Russians never sold a civilian AK model in the U.S. (or Europe) during the latter half of the 20th century. Most of the movie prop rental houses in Hollywood had dozens if not hundreds of Chinese AKs - mostly the Type 56s (7.62x39mm version) or the similar [[AK-47#Norinco Type 84S|Type 84s]] (5.56x45mm version). These were usually semi-automatic civilian versions (commonly designated "AK47S" or "AKS47" by the importers), in many cases converted to full-auto by Class III manufacturers.

There are three main variants of the Type 56 - the standard Type 56, which has a fixed stock, the Type 56-1, which has an under-folding stock, and the Type 56-2, which has a side-folding stock. Most fixed-stock Type 56 rifles have an under-folding spike bayonet, known as the "pig sticker"; this rifle is often seen in movies about the Vietnam War, and is correct for NVA throughout most of the conflict. Quite a few of the Type 56s seen in movies also have [[AK-47#AKM|AKM]]-style slant compensators fitted; this was a common feature on semi-auto Type 56s exported to the U.S., but NOT the full-auto military model.

The easiest way to tell when an AK-type rifle seen in a movie or TV show is a Chinese Type 56 is by looking at the front sight; Chinese AKs have a distinctive full-circle ("hooded") front sight that no other AKs (including those made in Russia) have.

=== Film ===

* Numerous N.V.A. and V.C. soldiers and fighters in ''[[Platoon]]''

* Russian & Janus soldiers, [[Sean Bean]] as Alec Trevelyan, [[Famke Janssen]] as Xenia Onatopp, and [[Pierce Brosnan]] as James Bond in ''[[Goldeneye]]'' (made to look like [[AK-74#AKS-74|AKS-74]]s)

* [[Danny Trejo]] as Trejo in ''[[Heat]]''

* Isla Los Organos guards and North Korean soldiers in ''[[Die Another Day]]''

* R.U.F. rebels, government soldiers, and [[Leonardo DiCaprio]] as Danny Archer in ''[[Blood Diamond]]''

* Somali militiamen in ''[[Black Hawk Down]]''

* Numerous characters including [[Nicolas Cage]] as Yuri Orlov in ''[[Lord of War]]''

* Crackhead in ''[[Hot Fuzz]]''

* Russian soldiers in ''[[Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull]]''

* Nomads in ''[[Flight of the Phoenix]]''

* North Korean soldiers in ''[[Die Another Day]]'' (including a few made to look like AKS-74s)

* One of Tahas' guards in ''[[District B13]]'' (with bayonet deleted)

* Militia fighters, refugees, Cameroon border guards, and [[Paul Francis]] as Danny "Doc" Kelley in ''[[Tears of the Sun]]'' (Type 56 with and without bayonet, Type 56-1 with and without AKM-style muzzle brake)

* Enemy soldiers in ''[[Dead Presidents]]''

* Rwandan Army soldiers in ''[[Hotel Rwanda]]''

* [[Jong Soo Park]] as Tran Chan Dinh in ''[[The Park is Mine]]''

* Feng's guards in ''[[Balls of Fury]]''

* [[Sahara (2005)]]
=== Television ===

* One of Deke Quinlan's men, [[Leo Fitzpatrick]] as "Mr. Mouse", and [[Adam Cantor]] as Rocko in ''[[The Kill Point]]''

* [[Derek Thompson]] as Billy Downes in ''[[Harry's Game]]''

==Norinco Type 84S==
[[Image:NorincoType84SRifle.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|right|500px|Norinco Type 84S - 5.56mm]]
[[Image:NorincoType84SFolder.jpg‎|thumb|right|500px|Norinco Type 84S Underfolder Model - 5.56mm]]
[[‎Image:NorincoType84STarget.jpg‎|thumb|right|525px|Norinco Type 84S "Target" Rifle - 5.56mm. Basically a standard Norinco Type 84S with a slightly longer barrel. This variant was ready for export after the 1989 US import ban, so it is mostly seen in Canada. It has an 18.5" barrel and was not really seen in the U.S. Gun market.]]
[[‎Image:NorincoType84SMatch.jpg|thumb|right|550px|Norinco Type 84S Match Rifle - 5.56mm. Norinco was stuck sitting on a pile of 21" RPK barrels chambered for 5.56mm when the door slammed shut on U.S. imports in 1989. Norinco saved money by mating their 21" long RPK-style barrels to their stockpile of 84S Folding Stock receiver bodies and thus exported the '''Type 84S Match''' to countries such as Canada and Australia. Canada would suffer their own import ban on 'frightening looking guns' in 1995. Australian gun owners would suffer such a fate in 1997.]]

Nearly identical to the Chinese Type 56 (seen above), but chambered in 5.56x45mm. The Type 84 was imported and sold with an AK birdcage flash hider and had a deep polished factory blue. It is often seen impersonating the [[AK-74]] in movies and TV shows. Several other variants of the 84S Rifle (that are mostly unfamiliar to American Gun Owners) were victims of the 1989 Import Ban that barred most new 'assault rifles' from entering the United States. These rifles were thus mostly exported to Canada and Australia, and as a result, appeared in television shows or movies that were filmed in those countries. Listed here are two of the variants seen in Canadian or Australian television (the Target and the Match versions). If it were not for Canadian or Australian movie armorers, most of us in the U.S. would never have known these variants existed.

=== Film ===

* Multiple mobsters in ''[[Hollow Point]]''

===Television===

* ''[[Harsh Realm]]''

* Russian military personnel in ''[[Stargate: SG1]]''

* ''[[Battlestar Galactica]]''

* ''[[The X-Files]]''

==AK-101==
Modern Russian AK rifle full size. 5.56x45mm
[[Image:AK101.jpg|thumb|right|450px|AK-101 5.56x45mm]]

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Battlefield 2]]'' (with two magazines taped together and the MEC Assault Class's fitted with a GP30 Grenade Launcher)

* ''[[Kane and Lynch: Dead Men]]

==AK-102==
Modern Russian AK rifle carbine. 5.56x45mm
[[Image:AK102.jpg|thumb|right|450px|AK-102 carbine 5.56x45mm]]

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots]]'' (can be fitted with a GP30 Grenade Launcher)

==AK-103==
Modern Russian AK rifle full size. 7.62x39mm.
[[Image:AK103.jpg|thumb|right|450px|AK-103 Modern Russian AK rifle 7.62x39mm]]

=== Video Games ===

* [[Thomas Jane]] as Frank Castle in ''[[The Punisher]]'' (as the "7.62mm Assault Rifle", available with red dot sight, upgradeable to 75-round drum magazine)

* ''[[Mercenaries 2: World in Flames]]''

* ''[[Hitman: Codename 47]]''

==AK-104==
Modern Russian AK rifle carbine. 7.62x39mm.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|right|450px|AK104 carbine - 7.62x39mm. This is a blank adapted motion picture gun and the buttstock is a replacement and the magazine is a Bulgarian Waffle pattern. I will resubmit this photo when I get the correct buttstock and the black synthetic 7.62 magazines.]]

===Film===

* One of Taha's thugs in ''[[District B13]]'' (with muzzle brake removed and fitted with Romanian side-folding stock)

==AK-107==
==AK-108==

==AEK-971==
Ultra modern day Russian assault rifle. Chambered for the 5.45 round. AEK-972 chambered in 5.56x45mm NATO, AEK-973 chambered in 7.62x39mm.

[[Image:aek971_545.jpg|thumb|right|450px|AEK 971 5.45mm]]

===Video Games===

* ''[[Battlefield: Bad Company]]''

* ''[[Tom Clancy's EndWar]]''

==WASR-3==

A Romanian AK clone in 5.56x45mm.

[[Image:Romanian-WASR-3.jpg|thumb|right|450px|A US imported Romanian WASR-3, 5.56mm.]]

===Film===

* ''[[Sahara (2005)]]''

* ''[[Casino Royale]]''

* ''[[Hotel Rwanda]]''

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Rifle]]

Half-Life 2

2009-02-18T21:47:44Z

TheDon152: /* Franchi SPAS-12 */

'''The following weapons are used in the video game Half-Life 2:'''
[[Image:Halflife2cover.jpg|right|300px]]

== Heckler & Koch USP Match ==

The Combine Civil Protection carries and uses 9x19mm [[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP Match|Heckler & Koch USP Match]] pistols as their service pistols, it is first used by the CPs when they chase Gordon Freeman (the protagonist) on the rooftops of the apartment building in the chapter "Point Insertion". Later, it is used by Gordon for the first time after killing a CP with the signature crowbar, and then throughout the whole game. Oddly enough, it is never seen used by the Resistance.

[[Image:H&K-USP-Compensator.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch USP Match, 9x19mm]]
[[Image:HL2 HK USP Match.jpg|thumb|none|250px|HK USP Match 9x19mm, from Half-life 2]]

== Colt Python ==

The [[Colt Python]] is first acquired by Gordon Freeman in a Civil Protection outpost in the chapter "Water Hazard", it is one of the most damaging weapons in the whole game, it can also kill enemies from a long distance, if the player has a steady accuracy. Ammunition for this weapon is rare when you first get it, later on it becomes a little more common.

[[Image:Colt python elite.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Colt Python Elite, .357 Magnum]]
[[Image:HL2 Colt Python.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|Colt Python .357 Magnum, in Half-life 2]]

== Heckler & Koch MP7A1 ==

The [[Heckler & Koch MP7A1]] is the main weapon for most Resistance members and Combine Soldiers, however, the first time this weapon is encountered in combat, it is used by a Civil Protection team. Unlike in real life, this MP7 has a second barrel for firing 20mm HE grenades, but before you pick them up, the grenades look like 40mm grenades, but they would have to be 20mm grenades to be fired out of that little barrel. Also, the MP7A1 in the game is mounted with a very small holographic sight that cannot be used by the player. Resistance members using this weapon sometimes throw away their MP7A1s in favor of a Combine AR2 Pulse Rifle. It even says the caliber "4.6x30mm" on the ammunition boxes, even though when firing the weapon. The shells coming out are not bottle necked which 4.6mm rounds are supposed to be.

[[Image:Hk mp7 b-1-.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch MP7A1, 4.6x30mm]]
[[Image:HL2 HK MP7.jpg|thumb|none|250px|HK MP7A1 4.6x30mm, in Half-life 2]]

== Franchi SPAS-12 ==

The [[SPAS 12|Franchi SPAS-12]] is first given to you by Father Grigori in the chapter "We don't go to Ravenholm...", it is very useful against Headcrab Zombies. In each Combine squad, there is one with a SPAS-12. At the end of the chapter entitled "Entanglement", Dr. Isaac Kleiner is shown poking his head through a door in his lab while holding a SPAS-12 shotgun. Alyx Vance uses this weapon in Half-Life 2 Episode One in a hospital. In Half-Life 2 Episode Two, there is a seperate Combine Shotgun unit using SPAS-12s. Unfortunately, Valve seems to have made the mistake of thinking the tube magazine is a second barrel that can be fired simultaneously by the player with the primary.[[Half-Life]]. Also the stock is removed entirly and the gun itself only holds six shells where it should be eight.

[[Image:Spas12.gif|thumb|none|400px|Franchi SPAS-12, 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:HL2 Franchi SPAS-12.jpg|thumb|none|240px|Fanchi SPAS-12 12 Gauge, in Half-life 2]]

== Winchester Model 1894 ==

The [[Winchester 1894]] is used by Father Grigori in the chapter "We don't go to Ravenholm...". Father Grigori can be killed, the player can pick up the Annabelle, but can only use it briefly as the screen fades to black when the game ends. It seems to be very powerful, and it can take down a Fast Zombie with one or two hits. The weapon is not intended to be used by the player.

[[Image:Winchester_Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1894, .30-30 Winchester]]
[[Image:HL2 Father Grigori.jpg|thumb|none|250px|Father Grigori in Ravenholm with an Winchester Model 1894]]

[[Category:Video Game]]

Talk:Call of Duty: World at War

2009-02-18T21:45:00Z

TheDon152: /* Guns that aren't here but should of been */

The picture for the M7 Grenade Launcher seems to be incorrect. It's showing the M9A1 bazooka

I think a double barrel shotgun varient can be used in the nazi zombies bonus level, but I can be mistaken
: You can get the double barrel shotgun in the Nazi Zombie game, but you can only get the sawed off double barrel from the magic box as I call it, among other guns. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:14, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
::No, you get the full length one. If you can fend them off with the .45 and the knife long enough to open the door and grab the boomstick, zombie mode gets a lot easier. I think the zombie mode could have had more potential, maybe more levels and some open spaces. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Guns that aren't here but should of been ==

I wonder why the M3 (Grease gun) wasn't in this game. Or why the Tommy are using the 20 round mags and not the 30 round mags? What about the PPS-43? We also don't see the paratrooper verison of the M1 Carbine with the folding stock and pistol grip. I can understand in single player Marines in the Pacific might not be armed with the paratrooper verison of the carbine, but the Russian single player shoulda gotten the PPS-43, or even in multi player, it would have just been an extra gun to use. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:14, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
:What do you expect, Activision doesn't know shit about guns. Did you notice how a lot of the gun reloading animations were stolen straight from COD2? And for some reason, they did choose to issue 20 round mags with the Thompsons far more often then the 30s. During the Normandy invasion, 30s made their shine. Keep in mind, the gun in the game is the M1928A1 Thompson. Those were issed 20 round sticks. Then again, it would have been cool if you could use a Thompson with a drum. Personally, I was disapointed by this game. Two campaigns? No U.K.? I was expecting Pacific, Europe, Russia and UK. I guess they were so excited that they got Keifer Sutherland, they didn't think they needed another campaign. I think this game was way too short. I beat it in a day. At least it was better than COD3. Activision is getting a ''little'' better. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

The Thompson SMG can be upgraded to a drum mag in multiplayer so that isn't as bad and also the PS2 version has a UK campaign where you are a UK soldier trying to cross the Rhine River and get into the heart of Germany.[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]] 21:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

::To be fair, COD4 Modern Warfare was a great breath of fresh air to the franchise and rather accurate when it came to weapons. But it was also handled by a different, much more capable developer (Infinity Ward, instead of COD3 and WaW's Treyarch). Frankly, if they haven't fired off every single round possible when it comes to WW2, then they're down to their last few bullets, so to speak. The COD franchise needs to replant itself back in modern times (or at the very least, sometime other than 1941-1945) and possibly, focus on maybe law enforcement areas and not just military aspects. Just my opinion. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 07:38, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

:::I say Vietnam, or Korea next, maybe even the First and second Gulf War. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 09:41, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

::::Korea, yes. Vietnam will be touchy at best and possibly disastrous at worst to handle. The First Gulf War, I can see. The second...well, I think that COD4 touched on that basis already with the Marine levels... ----[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 00:45, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

::What's so touchy about Vietnam that hasn't already been said about, parodied about, satired, joked, or debated? It's been almost 40 years, that's long enough for most things to be put to rest. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:58, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

:::Well, the COD series has never been about parodies...and IIRC, the last serious depiction of Vietnam to show true-blue heroism was Forrest Gump and some episodes of the History Channel's Dogfights (a show about aerial dogfights - not another COD specialty). Point is, unless Activision and whomever develops it strays away from focusing on the general Army and focuses on specialized units - and if they do that, a long conversation and a military advisor credit had better be heading Dick Marcinko's way - any attempt may bring a lot of controversy with it. ----[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 04:00, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

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I can't disagree with these arguments. While not a bad game by any means, about the only pros about W.A.W. were that you could take control of a tank or two, because it added a new game play dynamic by forcing players to use explosives for more then just pissing people off while they giggle like little boys in the first grade who have just heard the word p3n15 and think its just fr1661n6 hilarious (anyone can make a kill with a gigantic grenade that can fly you pint of annoyance!), the voice acting was well done (I'm sorry, but Keifer Sutherland as a marine that shoots copious numbers of people, well, he's played both parts of that combination very well, i.e. A Few Good Men and 24 and does a fine job of combining the two), the Nazi zombie level, the Co-op action, and the extra upgrade slots that you unlock when you use Prestige mode. personally, I'm pretty sure the L-E angle is well covered by Rainbow Six and SWAT, if you have a good enough PC. one idea that i haven't seen would be to have combined arms campaigns, probably Infantry, Vehicular, Aviation, and maybe Naval or Artillery to round out the spectrum. kinda like battlefield, but you would have to remain in that area until the campaign was over, instead of respawning as a different class, and of course you would have to customize your character for each mission, e.g. upgrades, weapons, perks, etc., and that would be single player. You could then take (one of) your Player Character(s) over to multiplayer. If Electronic Arts can do it several times over without making the series as bland as their sports games like madden, then Infinity Ward and Activision could probably do it, but make it better.

Another idea, which is a bit more in line with the topic of this discussion (sorry about that, I'm very tangent-prone), would be several small campaigns over the past century leading up to some fictional conflict in the year 2015, keeping the same character, with all of the progression of equipment, uniforms, weaponry, etc. with upgrades, and you can keep your say, FG-42 and bring it into Korea or The Middle East, either unmodified or with some modernizations, ex reflex sight. i have no idea how you could rationalize that, (I'm thinking Captain Price, before we were told that they were two different characters :) or maybe Wolverine, even though he's making his own movie/game at the moment), and i have no idea why you would bring a 60-ish year old battle rifle when there are better weapons, but you would probably have your reasons.

:Some of these ideas sound good. Others, like the last paragraph...well, I just have to ask...How the hell did Wolverine get into this conversation? :) ----[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 00:45, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay, i forgot to mention the Wolverine part. Sorry about that. Just look at the page for the new X-Men movie and you'll understand. Is it X-men Origins, or Legends? i forget

Medal of Honor: Rising Sun

2009-02-18T21:40:50Z

TheDon152: /* Lunge Mine */

==Imperial Japanese Weapons==

===Type 26 Revolver===

Only seen by two Japanese officers in the 6th mission. Cannot be used by player.

===Nambu 14th Year===

Weapon used by Japanese officers and German officers in the 6th mission which is odd because the standard German officer pistol was either a Walther P38 or the 08 Luger. Cannot be used by player.

===Arisaka Type 99===

Used by Japanese soldiers in every level often with a bayonet attachment used in banzai charges. Cannot be used by player.

===Type 11 LMG===

Seen many times being used by Japanese soldiers, but only used twice by the player(not counting the ones that can be mounted).

===Type 99 LMG===

Only seen and used in the final mission, first in the opening cutscene then by Japanese sailors. You eventually find one for yourself.

===Type 100===

Only seen in the first cuscene in the final mission. When PFC Tanaka gets off the plane, the Japanese sailor on the left is holding a Type 100 while talking to the other sailor on the right who has a Type 99 LMG.

===Katana===

Sometimes seen on Japanese officers and they occasionally pull it out and charge at you. Cannot be used by player.

===Type 97 Frag Grenade===

Your standard grenades as well as the Japanese's.

===Lunge Mine===
Used by the "Pole Miners" during the Phillipines invasion.

[[Image:Lunge Mine.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Lunge Mine used by the Imperial Japanese Army participating in Self-Sacrifice]]

===Throwing Knives===

The cooks throw these at you in some missions similar to Medal of Honor: Frontline.

==Allied Weaponry==

===Welrod Silenced Pistol===

A Welrod Silenced Pistol is used in the Singapore Sling mission.

===Colt M1911===

Your standard sidearm for the first few missions.

===M1 Garand===

Used by the player in a few of the missions and by US Marines in the 3rd mission.

===Lee-Enfield===
Seen weilded by a Chindit fighter, but not usable by the player.

===Springfield M1903===

Used as a sniper rifle in a few of the missions by the player.

===Thompson M1928===

Not really used too much throughout the game.

===Sten MK II Silenced===

Used by the player for a few miisions and is used by Major Bromley.

===M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle===

Used only once in Campaign mode when Gunney gives you one while on the USS California at Pearl Harbor.

===M1896 Trench Gun===

Gunney's weapon of choice and eventually used by the player in further missions.

===M1 Bazooka===

Used only in one mission in the entire game.

[[Category:Video Game]]

Medal of Honor: Rising Sun

2009-02-18T21:40:26Z

TheDon152: /* Meiji Revolver */

==Imperial Japanese Weapons==

===Type 26 Revolver===

Only seen by two Japanese officers in the 6th mission. Cannot be used by player.

===Nambu 14th Year===

Weapon used by Japanese officers and German officers in the 6th mission which is odd because the standard German officer pistol was either a Walther P38 or the 08 Luger. Cannot be used by player.

===Arisaka Type 99===

Used by Japanese soldiers in every level often with a bayonet attachment used in banzai charges. Cannot be used by player.

===Type 11 LMG===

Seen many times being used by Japanese soldiers, but only used twice by the player(not counting the ones that can be mounted).

===Type 99 LMG===

Only seen and used in the final mission, first in the opening cutscene then by Japanese sailors. You eventually find one for yourself.

===Type 100===

Only seen in the first cuscene in the final mission. When PFC Tanaka gets off the plane, the Japanese sailor on the left is holding a Type 100 while talking to the other sailor on the right who has a Type 99 LMG.

===Katana===

Sometimes seen on Japanese officers and they occasionally pull it out and charge at you. Cannot be used by player.

===Type 97 Frag Grenade===

Your standard grenades as well as the Japanese's.

===Lunge Mine===
Used by the "Pole Miners" during the Phillipines invasion.
[[Image:Lunge Mine.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Lunge Mine used by the Imperial Japanese Army participating in Self-Sacrifice]]

===Throwing Knives===

The cooks throw these at you in some missions similar to Medal of Honor: Frontline.

==Allied Weaponry==

===Welrod Silenced Pistol===

A Welrod Silenced Pistol is used in the Singapore Sling mission.

===Colt M1911===

Your standard sidearm for the first few missions.

===M1 Garand===

Used by the player in a few of the missions and by US Marines in the 3rd mission.

===Lee-Enfield===
Seen weilded by a Chindit fighter, but not usable by the player.

===Springfield M1903===

Used as a sniper rifle in a few of the missions by the player.

===Thompson M1928===

Not really used too much throughout the game.

===Sten MK II Silenced===

Used by the player for a few miisions and is used by Major Bromley.

===M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle===

Used only once in Campaign mode when Gunney gives you one while on the USS California at Pearl Harbor.

===M1896 Trench Gun===

Gunney's weapon of choice and eventually used by the player in further missions.

===M1 Bazooka===

Used only in one mission in the entire game.

[[Category:Video Game]]

User talk:TheDon152

2009-02-18T21:31:09Z

TheDon152:

== All Apologies ==

I apologize to everyone about what has happened with the flash animation shit. I didn't type it intenionally to dis anyone, I just did it because I didn't have anything else to type and personally I didn't think anyone would care. I've only been contributing to this site for a few months and I thought "just another wiki website". I understand the rules now and I won't post anymore shit on here from now on. If any of you people can find it in your hearts to forgive me, it would be appreciated. Thanks.

:Nobody was angry at you to begin with. I mean, at least you stopped when asked. There are people on here who refuse to even acknowledge Admins when asked to do something. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 15:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

== Pics ==

I know that all of my pages don't have pics of the in-game or movie footage. Some I can't do because I no longer own, but I will get pics for the stuff I do own ASAP.

== Almost Done ==

My Three Kings project is almost done and should be complete within tomorrow or Wendsday.

==Re:416==

Thanks! I got rid of it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

== Resuming ==

Please excuse my absence for the past month and a half, my PC caught a virus and it took a '''VERY'''long and stressful time to get it out. I will now resume my Three Kings project any questions, leave one.[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]] 21:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

User talk:TheDon152

2009-01-06T00:16:06Z

TheDon152:

User talk:MT2008

2009-01-05T22:09:17Z

TheDon152:

==Recent Weapon Articles==
Listen, I have not uploaded the last articles for no reason becouse they were used in particular movies/video games. I have thorougly read your policy on uploading exotic Trial/Research weaponry and have followed it since you last told me.
[[User:Cutaway]]

==Norinco Type 54/questionable conversation==
'''Cool, I have a Type 54. Frame mounted safety, 9mm clearly marked Norinco (will take pictures if you wany). I may have missed some SKSs in Platoon, feel free to add them to the page. I hope you guys don't see me as that guy you always have to correct. His use of the word "especially" makes it sound like I fucked up major and it needs your help big time. No biggy, just wondering. Let me know bout the Type 54. (It was found by a friend of my dad's, hidden in a construction site, so he may say no since it could be illegal but it should be okay).'''
'''P.S: I could have sworn they made a MAC-9 model, but I'm assuming you'd know more. Sorry if I'm wrong''' -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]

::'''He okayed it, I'll photo edit them to make them Semi-professional looking.
:'''Sorry I haven't got the pictures done yet, I've been pretty busy. Expect them some time this week.'''-GM
===Back for a bit===
''Nice to see you're back on the site! Hope you've seen some of GunMaster45's recent work (especially on Heartbreak Ridge and Platoon.) Anyway, I'm curious...do you by chance have a Chinese Type 54 copy of a Tokarev in your company's inventory? I ask only because I've seen those in quite a few movies, and I figure we should have a picture of one for this site. Also, I thought that only Chinese Tokarevs have the frame-mounted safety? I have little experience with them, but I thought I remembered reading that...please educate me if I'm wrong! ''

Yes, GunMaster45 did good work on the [[Heartbreak Ridge]] page. He put on screen caps proving that there were slab side M16s as well as A1s, so that I didn't have to do it. :) I still think that some of the screen shots he attributed to Chinese AKs in [[Platoon]] are in fact SKS rifles. But I will have to do a detailed scan of Platoon to verify that the rifles that I think are SKS rifles are indeed SKSs. Hope he doesn't get annoyed, but I noted some errors in the [[MAC-10]] page. I will also be posting pics of the MAC-10 in 9mm and also closeups of the Sten vs MAC-10/9 mags to clarify my remarks. But I will correct ANY error that I see, and of course, I tend to get a little testy when MY stuff is deleted or changed ... hahahaha. I just get high strung because I deal with crazy people every day. I'm in a bad mood now because JOSH BROLIN, you know, that oscar nominated actor dude, just fucked up one of my handguns. The trigger guard is completely bent. I mean, how the hell do you bend a trigger guard of a Police Chief Special? unless you ran over it with a truck? It's F**king amazing. I can't believe how actors or (non gun wrangler) prop persons can completely screw up GUNS in a few minutes more than the abuse of a real shooter over the span of years... And they look at me like I'm an idiot when I say "HEY!? what the hell did you do to MY gun?!?!" Sorry, gotta deal with crap every day, from folks who don't know squat about guns AND they abuse me as well ! hahahaha. Anyway, I wish I could take you to the set for just ONE day, to see the crap I gotta deal with. On another note, I am trying to get to the Battlestar Galactica set before they tear it all down. :) I will just be a visitor since it's in Canada and I'm not an authorized armorer in that country.

I don't have a Chinese Tokarev, I will try to find someone who does. Again, I hope I don't seem obnoxious, but I own 99% of these guns and have decades of experience with them. gotta apologize in advance ...hahaha ... there is always a bit of a knee jerk reaction that I get when I see info coming from any source (and that means all posters) that doesn't own or handle the firearms in question, and I have to do my best to quell that knee jerk response :) But I can always run to the gun safe, pull out the gun in question and take pictures of them. I got pics of some of the MATRIX guns so I will try to post them.

===[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]===
I figured that it was something to do with the foreign exchange. I had an assumption it was similair to how the Glocks are in generations, 1s being the oldest ones with the least new feattures, 2s being slightly better, and 3s being the newest. I've also seen the R models with the tactical rails and moaybe that is a 3rd gen variation as well.

It was only a thought that they could be like Glocks as that was my best guess. We should pobably find whoever labeled it P220-1 and ask him why he did that. With Glocks, the generations labeling is very simple.(I'l explain since I've tried very hard to remember all the Glocks and facts.)

* 1st Generation: The original models first started in production in 1983. They had a flat nose at the end of the frame, a flat handle, no decocking safety, and I believe no white night outlined sights. They had magazines built to swell when fully loaded so when in the gun, they would'nt drop out if the mag release was pressed accidentally. That is why they have thumb wells on the bottom of the grip, so you can pull it out with ease. I own a Glock 17 1st genration from 1986 and it was one of the 300th built. It has an ugly set of night sights(probably added much later) and they are adjustable. The mag swells when I put it in the gun loaded but falls out with ease when unloaded. It's a nice gun but I'd rather have a 3rd gen with original sights.
*2nd Generations.: Started in the 1990, they built Glocks with a slightly more curved frame nose, finger stepping and cut notches in the back of the grip. They dropped the swelling mag idea and made mags you could drop straight out of the gun for a quick tactical reload.
*3rd Generations: Started in 2000, they added tactical rails to the frame nose, finger notches for a better grip still(as if stepping wasn't enough?) and a thumb groove.

Now that the mags don't swell anymore, they make plugs to close up those thumb wells which makes sense since getting mud or other crap in there would be annoying to clean out.

As for SIG-Sauers, I've held one a long time ago and other than what I read and see, my experiance with them is poor. I'll have to go and buy a P220 and a P226 and see how they work. My dad has this encyclepedia of guns with every models of all guns made so I'll flip through that sometime. It stops at 2004 so he needs a new book.

I'll add this here because I need to tell someone. I added a beautiful stainless compensator to my M1911A1 and it is great. To install it, we had to ground down the spring cover so it would fit the comp. properly, as the guy I bought it from on Ebay says it fits all 1911s but it was built for ones with guide rods. Still got it to work well. I'll upload pictures very, very soon. The gun needs to be reblued as the slide is a WWII A1 slide and the frame is a M1911 original WWI frame from 1913. I will soon add 3 dot night sights, a stainless long type 3 holed trigger and maybe some hogue finger groove grips(but the orinal 1913 wood grips might just stay). The mainspring housing has grooves in it so it can accept a wooden stock, which I have, along with the 16in barrel, so it can all be legal and friendly. As soon as you respond, I'll post the pic here for you.

Err, maybe not, the camera isn't working right. I'll try it tommorow I guess.

Thanks for correcting the [[The Rock]] page, I was up til 7:00am screencapping and uploading the movie and my brain wasn't to full capacity. I noticed things like Goodspeeds Beretta had a somewhat smaller barrel and I was ''way'' too tired to find a stock picture for every gun so thanks for finding all of them. Finding good screenshots isn't easy. They used Berettas and Commandos so much in the movie I had over 20 screens each, so I had to drop a few. As for the Beretta 92SB, you'd think I'd notice as I'm the one who made the column of the Beretta page for it. I was tired and so distracted by the grips, I missed the trigger guard and inproperly classified it. But as long as your around to clean up after me, all should be fine. You clearly know more about the Colt Commando than me, that's for sure.

With screencapping the process is very aggravating. I play the DVD in my computer's player. I find the guns based on my memory of the best shots in the movie. I press "P" which captures the shot as a screenshot. I save it. Now after finding maybe 50+ screencaps for the whole movie, I go to my photoshop editor. I take every picture and convert the file from a BMP to a JPG. If the movie is widescreen, I crop out the black bars.(although I just started doing this.) Then I upload every single picture to the site and build the pages and links. I wish I got payed to do it, it's really very time consuming. But it is worth it for the knowledge of other people, right? [[Last Action Hero]] was the worst. I had over 100+ screens and there were 33 guns in that movie and I put them all in. The Funeral section was the hardest part as over 100 people pulled out guns and I identified what I could. The screens for that movie came out well, but the DVd's quality was about VHS and it looked terrible. Hopefully it was worth it though. -[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==A pic and an update==
Hey there. Got a few minutes. When I get a few minutes, I will be changing the several pages where we explore the different natures of guns (the US Marshals page , the M16 page and the Sahara Page). I will be clarifying the SP1 Sporter to a Colt Sporter Carbine, since I've seen both the version you posted (and the ones I have access to are actually still marked M16A1, so they were converted with a sporter TOP receiver after the fact. I am also going to take another pic of a Colt 733 that's actually marked Colt 733. My previous 733 pic turned out to be a conversion of an M16 receiver to a 733 looking gun. I am also cleaning up the ''[[Sahara]]'' page since I asked a few armorer/experts locally and they all think it's the foreign equivalent of the Romanian WASR-3 AK gun that we imported into this country. I don't know what the foreign countries called their version, but the best I can do is list it as the closest version that's verifiable in this country.

Here's a pic for you. Why am I grumpy sometimes? cuz, I am STILL looking at a rack of 24 AKMs that need cleaning. I still have to clean 17 AR-15 rifles. And the vault has all the stuff that needs either a major cleaning/refinishing or fixing. The tagged ones need replacement parts.

Now here's a pop quiz. Can you ID any of the guns in my 'to do list' vault? ;) Let me know if you can ID any of them. LOL!
[[Image:FixerVault.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|click on the image for a bigger pic.]]

==Long barreled AKs==
Wow! You did it. Amazing. No, I don't know what the hell that AK is. I've never seen an underfolder Long barreled AK for sale in the U.S. So it must be an Australian/Canadian thing. I guess that's a mystery we will have to bug the foreign armorers about. Wasn't there a Canadian armorer here on IMFDB a while ago? I don't remember well. Anyway, I also hope you don't think I was too harsh re: the HEAT updates. The vast majority of IMFDB users seem to be guys who are too young to buy a handgun, and some are too young to have a driver's license. Anyway I gotta take a break and get back to some movie sets here. :) I will try to get pics of the more famous guns when I can. But my contributions will drop down until I get some more free days. Thanks again. MPM2008

==Re: Your Articles==
I completly understand what you mean. I'll do my best to add guns to the pages from now on. Like you said, it's a pain in the ass when there is over 30 guns but I'll do it from now on. I'lve just finished screencapping Eraser but I might wait till tommorow to upload it, its been a long day, perhaps tonight. I'll make sure to add the pictures on that one. I assume there's about 20 or so guns. Thanks for pointing that out. By the way, what is the language rules for this site, because I wrote the "F" word on the [[Heartbreak Rdige]] page and I'm not sure that's allowed. The question is right under the picture in the M16 section. I'll do my best to be more considerate to editors like you. My main goal is to make a page flawless and immune to your corrections, but so far no dice. (Although, I'm unaware whether or not you checked the [[Last Action Hero]] page because it had no correction notes. Did I do it? - [[USer:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==re:Sahara==
''It's kinda strange, though...I wouldn't have figured British armorers would use civilian AK variants that were essentially geared towards the U.S. firearms market.''

re: British armorers, I've never met Sascha Robey. All I know is that Robey did the guns for the American TV Miniseries "The path to 9/11" but only the sequences shot in Morocco.

A lot of armorers are just the 'licensed experts' on the set. They subrent their guns from large armories. That's why I don't have screen credit for many majors I worked on, since I wasn't the on set armorer, I just rented them the guns (like any vendor) and we only rent to armorers (''aka weapons wranglers'') that we know and trust. I think Robey got the guns from Bapty's movie armory of London (just an educated guess).

When I was going to school at Cambridge University (a long time ago) I did get to visit Bapty's Armory (got to see a lot of the guns used in all those movies shot at all those BIG British Studio stages - like the 007 movies). Well the Romak 223 is the import name for the 'castrated' gun that our lovely BATFE allows to be imported. The romanians made a bunch of identical guns for sale to other countries where civilians can own semiautomatic rifles. I noticed that Zahn's gun had (a) a threaded front end of the barrel and (b) a bayonet lug, which usually imported guns after 1990 had to have removed. So it's probably a Romanian export gun that the British armorers picked up that has not been modified to be imported into the U.S. Sigh.... to be able to get such unaltered guns again. Now we have a bunch of US makers upgrading and making their own AKs, but I like the 'appeal' of getting stuff that's really FOREIGN and foreign built in a factory in a far off land. Even though the lowly British law abiding citizen can't own Squat, their movie armorers can get almost anything they need. UNLIKE the U.S. (especially California) which makes it more difficult to be a movie armorer every year.

BTW: I uploaded a detail shot of the Type 84 with the features I was talking about. I hope it helps.

best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Sahara==
Thanks for the help on the typo with the Norinco Type 56-1. As you probably know by the time stamps I edited that at 2:00 am PST and was pretty tired. Thanks for catching stuff like that.

But Zahn's gun is not the Type 84 despite the fact that the gas tube has vent holes like the Type 65/84 guns. The Type 84 is a deep blued finish, this gun has the semi gloss black paint finish of European AKs, the Magazine is NOT a Type 84 (not even close), but it does resemble the newer Romanian Romak 223 magazines (thus my question), and the front sight is an open top European AKM style, not the hooded .75" spaced Type 84 Front sight and finally the gas block is missing a notch that the Type 84 has and it looks lke the front sight sling is attached to the front of the handguards (AKM) and not on the gas block (Type 84). '''I looked at a Type 84 before I posted the pics, so I am sure that it is NOT a type 84''', there are too many differences that an armorer just wouldn't do (like repainting a blued gun or replacing the front sight or using a magazine that I am not sure would even fit in the magazine well). In fact if they did replace the Type 84 front sight block with an AKM sight, you would be able to see the notch in the top of the barrel of the second pin for the wider front sight. It would be visible. The smaller AKM sight doesn't cover it on the barrel. So again I will try to figure out what type of AK it is. Since Sahara is a newer movie it would well be a recent US built or US part upgraded imported AK rifle.

ON another note:

So what do you think of the screen caps? I purposely kept the Zahn pics big temporarily so the details of the gun could be seen. But i've noticed that whenever I work hard on a largely ignored page, THEN people start tweaking it, after I've put in hours working on it and before I'm finished :) what's up with that? Just the way things work I guess. :)

(But YOUR input is always welcome. I haven't shot any new gun pics yet. I usually wait until I have several dozen items to photograph before I go through the trouble of setting up a white background). Best regards
MPM2008

== Thanks for the help ==

Thanks for helping out on some of my articles, specifically ''[[The Siege]]'' and ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]''. I just recently got the ability to take screenshots from DVD's on my computer, but don't have either of those. Keep up the good work. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

== Guns in ''The Siege'' ==

You actually got a picture of the [[Browning M2]] in one of your [[M60 machine gun|M60]] screenshots, namely the one where it's being fired during the Redhook chop shop scene. As for the [[M203 grenade launcher|M203]], look closely at one of the soldiers keeping the press mob out of the stadium. Also, don't forget the [[Heckler & Koch MP5|H&K MP5]]'s during the bus hijacking/bombing scene. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:23, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

:: Here's the screenshot in question; the barrel is definitely too long to be a [[Mk 19 grenade launcher]]. Note that it also lacks the muzzle brake as well.

[[Image:Vlcsnap-182525.jpg‎|none|500px]]

[[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

== Good to have you back. :) ==

Backups are automatic and daily now - 4 am every day and automatically uploaded to seperate servers for archival. :)

You can't merge a page - but you can copy all the content from one to another and then drop a line to an admin to redirect the old page to the new one. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I've redirected the pages you requested. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 14:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

==hello==
Hi there. Just thought I'd seek to clarify the Red Dawn discussion, per your suggestion.

The MISR may have been the Egyptian's name for the gun in their factories overseas (several books refer to it, Clinton Ezell's book mentions it in 1986), but my point was that the Egyptians never marked or called their export gun to the U.S. - the MISR. In fact the only MISR guns that were legally imported into the U.S. (marked MISR) were after 1990 and they were 'post ban' guns, hastily hand 'etched' with the words "MISR" on the trunion.

I was probably nit picking since I don't know if alot of people really cared which import version was used in what movie. I wouldn't really care, BUT ... when people say MISR, everyone here in the states, automatically thinks of the post 1990 thumbhole monstrosities, not the better crafted ARMs of the early 1980s. I know for a fact that Syd Stembridge (who worked on Red Dawn and I spoke to about it) scoffed and thought of the crappy 'post ban MISR rifles' when I mentioned it to him. He said "Nope, we used ARMs not MISRs". So even he was thinking about the MISR imported gun. Hmmmmm.

Does it matter? I don't know. I'm tempted to edit out the discussion entirely, but I'm not sure how. Perhaps a note addressing what the imported versions actually had stamped on them (and had written in their owners manuals). What do you think?

A little bit of my background: :)

I was buying Maadi rifles back in 1983 (before Red Dawn came out). Thus I remember what they were called at the time. At no time had I ever seen the rifles referred to a MISR back in 1984 or earlier. Sales brochures, invoices, company documentation. That's really the only reason I was convinced that Maadi did not ship guns to US under that name.

I own nearly every variant of AK imported into this country prior to 1999. That includes ARMs, RPLs, MISRs, AKS-47, Type 84s, Type 56 Sporters, MAK-90s, SA-85s, Yugo M76s, etc. etc.

Any way. You've done a GREAT job updating and posting things. I don't want to give the impression that I don't realize that you're a super contributor.

Any way, keep up the fantastic work. :) and looking forward to your thoughts re: the re-edit of the page.

best regards
'''MoviePropMaster2008'''

==I am re-editing Red Dawn==
It just hit me. I can cut out all my rantings and just put in a note, that the MISR rifle is not referring to the post ban imported version call the 'MISR' and was imported under the name ARM. If that's okay, I'll cut out all the stuff under your original paragraph. Thanks. MoviePropMaster2008

==Type 84==
No problem. I will be happy to hunt down the Type 84 (the vault is big and kinda a pain to go through) ;) . I converted a bunch to AK74 though (i.e. put on the imported Russian parts and gas tubes, front sights, etc. to make them 'look' like AK74s. But I might have one left that is not all messed up. I don't believe that I have any left that retain the original Chinese 'fully enclosed' sight hood any more, unfortunately. Will this do? I can also put the original factory wood back on for the photo. Do you want it in original factory configuration? I can also put it into the SAME config as any of the movie or projects you want it for (i.e. put hungarian Blonde wood on them, etc.). Just let me know. It might take some time, though. I have to set up the photographic white table top setup all over again and will probably wait until I have a bunch of guns to photograph before I do it again. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== ''Incredible Hulk'' Grenade Launchers ==

I was under the impression the multi-shot grenade launchers in ''[[The Incredible Hulk (2008)|The Incredible Hulk]]'' were some sort of [[Milkor MGL]] derivative, like the M32? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

== My two cents on the Hulk Launchers ==
It looks like the back end of a Def tech 37mm launcher but the front end of a M32. Also the cylinder (and rotator mechanism) doesn't look like anything out there. It's too short to be the DEFTECH but the rotator gear is in the '''back''', not the '''front''', like it should be on the M32. The Milkors have a 'pop up' back end and the style of the buttstock looks completely different. I think it's a "Frankenstein gun" - perhaps the prop dept. took several Deftech 37mm launchers and chopped and styled them to resemble the M32. Check out the comparison pic and let me know what you think. :) Best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008|]] (P.S. - I don't hang out with the armorers in Canada being that we never cross paths. I wish I could so that I could ask them).

[[Image:Hulk-Launcher-Comparison1.jpg]]

I'll send you a pic of that very launcher from the shop.

==Your CZ99 pic==
I cleaned up your CZ99 pic in Photoshop. It's the same pic, but color corrected. Can I repost it? Thanks. [[user:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Editing Dogs of War==
I am thinking of doing some more updates on Dogs of War, hope you don't mind. ;) GOOD CALL! on the "imitation" Uzis in "Raw Deal" and "Stripes". In Stripes I thought you were talking about "Winger" (Bill Murray) but he was holding an unadorned MAC-10, but you were right, it was Joe Flaherty as the Czech border guard who had the "uzi cover" on the MAC-10. You have an eagle eye! Most people would have missed that one! Those guns were 'conversions' made by Special Effects Unlimited, Inc. in the 1970s. The company did mostly pyrotechnics (Stembridge, Ellis Mercantile and ISS were the kings of 'just guns' back then) and in the movie Dogs of War, they simply didn't have enough real Uzis. (In the 1970s it was pretty hard to get real uzis, IMI just wasn't importing them in big numbers. The import explosion came during the 1980s. Movies like Uncommon Valor, Red Dawn, Rambo, Commando, Death Wish 2-5, etc. all fueled an "action movie flood" that also included all of the really crappy GOLAN&GLOBUS movies like the post apocalyptic movies or the Chuck Norris Movies. Special Effects Unlimited went away in the early 1980s. When I got into the biz, there were about 30 movie gun rental houses and hundreds of trained wranglers in California. Now there are about five rental houses, with less than a dozen independent wranglers. Thanks to the draconian gun control that California shoves down our throat every year. No wonder the movies are all filming in Canada or Australia. Their armorers don't have the BS that we have to deal with. :(

One of the interesting things is the 'work arounds' that movie armorers do. We don't have access to every gun or destructive device that comes down the pipe in the real world. A lot of times the stuff just isn't available when a movie is being made, so we have to 'fake it'. I remember having to 'fake' the Steyr TMP out of a Cobray M11 because the TMP had just come out and the film's director 'just had to have it', but it wasn't being imported into this country yet. I had a model builder mold a dummy and then cast it as two halves of a clamshel mold and screwed it on to the M11. hahahaha.

You and some of the other guys have done a great job on that page!!! I love the screen caps, if I knew how, I'd do it too :D I don't know if my 'overabundance of information' on the background of a movie is either 'wanted' or 'necessary'. Feel free to edit if my info seems irrelevant, but I always try to 'keep it short' :) I think I can photograph some of the actual guns from DOGS of War, unfortunately they've been refinished, some have been altered. I'll drop a note when I get to take the pics and post them. :)

[[UserId#MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Raw Deal page and other thoughts==
You have to put up the Raw Deal page(!!) I was going to do it, but you have all the cool screencaps! :)

[[Image:Vlcsnap-59747.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
Note that from this angle, the barrel is obviously a thin metal tube (just enough to extend the MAC-10 barrel). It's not thick enough to be a 9mm or .45 acp barrel. Great screencap! :) BTW: those were 9mm MAC-10s not the .45 acp MAC-10s. The nines were easier to blank adapt, and the blanks had that nice hot white flash in front. They look identical, except for the markings on the receiver.

I'm holding off putting the AKM shot in the Red Dawn Page. I'm still looking for one with an original Laminated buttstock. I'm positive I can take a pic of an 'undamaged' one. Thanks again for your input. :) It's been a little slow in the biz, but next week I might be getting some gigs, and in July I'm traveling on some projects so I will be gone. best regards [[UserId#MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Type 56==

(Warning: this is from my own recollection and not official in any way) :)

Hmmm. it's a tough one. Since there is no 'official' designation it's hard to figure. And what always throws me is the 'official name' of the gun around the world and the 'official imported' name of the gun when it was sold here in the United States. Since this is a 'guns in the movies' site, I usually throw out the book on the '' 'official international nomenclature of the guns as used by foreign armies' '' and noting what the guns were called when movie weapons armorers were bringing them to the movie set. But the trend on the site, so far, has been to list the guns as what it's supposed to be representing (like calling obvious AR-15s, "M16s") in the real world. I just like to have some sort of footnote as to what weapons were actually used and what they were really called. :)

I've always regarded the 56 as a 47 offshoot. I don't think the other armorers have given it much thought, but I know that they'll always refer back to the AK47, not the AKM when anyone asks them what the Type 56 is based on.

'''I'll list my criterion and let me know what you think. '''

''Now we all know that the Chinese barrels are slightly different in diameter to all the European barrels but for the most part, the Chinese Type 56 parts are clones of the 47 not the AKM.''

1) The Chinese started their Type 56 copy with milled receivers. Around the 1960s the Soviets changed to stamped receivers in the 'modernized' AKM. The Chinese thought that was a good idea, and began production with stamped receivers, but '''everything''' else remained the same.

:(a) the front sight (.75" versus .5" width for the AKM)
:(b) the gas block (the angle AND the fact that it is not "notched" for gas release like the AKM)
:(c) the Gas tube (the AK47s have vent holes, the AKMs do not)
:(d) the Gas tubes are NOT interchangeable between the AKM and the AK47/Type 56 (I've tried, the angle of the back of the gas tube is different)
:(e) the pin placement in the receiver itself (the AK47 and the AKM have different pin placements)
:(f) the smooth versus ribbed dust cover
:(g) the wood furniture (the AK47 & Type 56 have smooth side crate wood - the AKM has bulged grip laminated - the buttstocks have a different comb and are different types of wood)
:(h) other than the wood for the gas tube and the pistol grip, the wood forearm and buttstock are '''NOT interchangeable''' between the AK47/56 and the AKM - you need to 'fit' the wood with a rasp and file.
:(i) in the underfolder stock versions the stocks of the Type 56 & AK47 are interchangeable, you need to modify them slightly to fit the AKM underfolder. Also the Underfolder 'arms' of the AK47/56 are smooth, the AKM underfolder arms are 'ribbed'.
:(j) the pistol grips for the 47/56 were wooden with a metal border near the receiver, the AKMs were all composite or plastic grips. This doesn't take into account the dealers or importers who may have swapped grips on their own, I'm just talking about the way they were exported off the factory floor.
:(k) I don't know if this is official or not, but I've personally tried to swap the bolts from AK47s/Type 56s and AKMs and the AKMs 'stick' when put into the 47/56 guns. The gun doesn't cycle ''(and it's probably not all that safe 'headspace' wise (hahaha), but it's a lot safer when all you're shooting is blanks.....)''. It could be the bolt carrier and piston assembly, but I've noticed that as well.

This is only based on my personal experience, but I'll bet that no one else on the board is as dopey as me and has tried to swap parts between an AKM and a Type 56 and wondered what went wrong ;) hahaha I DO know that we've fixed broken Chinese guns (from the 1980s) with original Soviet AK47 parts kits and the other cosmetic parts did fit (though we had to take into account the slight size difference between the Chinese barrels and all other AKs).

So in my thinking, the only '''difference''' between the Type 56 and the AK47 (other than the obvious Chinese 'style flourishes') is the stamped receiver. Since the AKM instituted a lot more other changes than just a stamped receiver I just consider the Chinese Type 56 series to be a stamped receiver version of the AK47, not the AKM. All the details other than the receiver are "AK47".

Also there is the confusion of how the imported guns were stamped. ALOT of the imported Chinese guns armorers bought in the 1980s were marked "AK47", not AKM. I have samples of Norinco AK type rifles in the 1980s, imported by B-West that are marked either: ''Type 56, Type 56S, Type 56 Sporter, Sporter 56, AK-47, AKS-47, AKS Sporter, AKS-47 Sporter''. The vast majority of guns were indeed stamped AK-47 or AKS-47. (I can take a pic of the marks on the receivers to send to you). So many of the imported Chinese guns were marked AK-47/AKS-47 (as a marketing ploy by the manufacturer since they doubted that most of the American buying public would have any idea what a Type 56 was).

footnote: Only after the import ban of 1989 did we see names like the MAK-90, the NHM-90/91, et. al, those were the first 'thumbhole monstrosities' to enter the country from China.

Since those of us who were buying the guns never referred to them as an offshoot of the AKM, but of the AK47, thats how I've always viewed them. But there is no hard and solid rule. The Chinese guns are their own 'platypus' hybrid.

That's just my 'reasoning' on it, but again, since the Chinese guns are 'hybrids' it doesn't really matter. As long as the rifle types are listed 'SOMEWHERE' on the site, with notations as to what movies they were used in. As has been noted by others, the Chinese guns are by and far the most COMMON AK type to be seen in TV and movies bar none. They were the most plentiful and cheap when they first came out. I know of a prop house in L.A. that was trying to sell of over 400 of them, because they were going out of business (owner died, sons didn't want to continue the family biz).

Again, sorry for my long post. Again, I sometimes wonder, 'when is too much information too much?" I don't want to confuse the users of the site, but the reality is really complex. :) Now don't get me started on the massive 'periodic chart' known as the 'Smith & Wesson Handgun naming chart'.... yeow!!!!

I sure hope it was in some way helpful and informative. :)

==re: Type 56==

Yes, no offense please! :) hahahaha I figured you already knew all the details, but I had to list them just to make sure that I remembered all of the points which brought me to my original conclusion. :) I also remembered the problems of trying to swap the pieces in the past and the total headaches they caused! Hahahaha.

RE: the new page for just Chinese guns - FANTASTIC idea! I didn't think of that myself and would have pretty much yielded to whatever categorization that you thought best, but that's a great solution. '''Are there any SysOps or other super contributors we need to check with? so that they don't start undoing the page? '''

On another note: I will try to take a pic of an unadorned Type 84 by late Thursday night. Is there any other weapon that is not properly represented on this site that I could try to track down and photograph?

Again, always a PLEASURE to discuss stuff with you. And I'll yield to what you think is best. :) best regards
[[UserId#MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==New Images==
Sorry about the delay in the Type 84 pics, but I can't seem to locate the .223 steel magazines. It doesn't look right without it. I will continue to hunt for the correct magazines and get the pic. I just went to the vault and photographed a BUNCH of new stuff. I am also using the pics for marketing purposes, i.e. so that I can email art directors and producers/directors my own images so that they know what the gun looks like, but I am trying to get IMFDB a bunch of ORIGINAL pics found no where else. :) No airsoft guns here. :) All real deal. More to come.

[[Image:FNMAG58.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|FN Mag 58 ]]
[[Image:M249ParaModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|M249 Paratrooper model ]]‎
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|MAC-10]]‎‎
[[Image:RugerMP9Stock.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|Ruger MP9 stock extended]]‎
[[Image:RugerMP9smg.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|Ruger MP9]]

==Updates==
cc'd to: MT2008, Orca1 9904, Charon68 and others... :)
I've been trying to get higher rez original pics to IMFDB for a little bit now. One of the major beefs I have with site like Security arms.org or Guns of the world.ru is that there are some really crappy pics, and lots of those pics are weird hybrid variations that are not good representations of the mainstream version of the firearm. Though I've had some nice comments from a few folks, I need to verify that it's kosher to try to eliminate the bad resolution 'stolen from the net' pics and replace them with original photographs. (granted permission by me the copyright holder) Don't know if I am stepping on anyone's toes or if anyone would be offended that I replaced their image (which was 'borrowed' from the net originally) with another image. If anyone thinks I should NOT be replacing pics on existing pages with new gun images, please let me know. Do the majority of IMFDB users even care? I'm fully expecting '''other sites''' to start stealing images from IMFDB when the level of pics goes up. :) hahahaha.

==Zastava==
I just did it because the Ak page was just getting too huge, and so many Chinese Aks were being used in films to "portray" Russian AKs that it made sense to put the Chinese guns in there. The QBZ-97 is just bullpup versions of AKs but it gets its own page. The Yugo AKs are really different from the other AKs, not as much as the Czech VZ58 which is an entirely different firearm. I know folks want to keep items to one page with a lot of variants, but I thought the entire series of Yugoslavian guns (all the way from the M70 to the M92 and their RPK variants) deserved their own page. You never see the Yugoslavian guns 'masquerading' as Russian or Chinese guns. They are always seen as weapons from the Balkans or Bosnian conflict. Of course the powers that be can always slam me down ;) But I figured it was worth a shot. :)

Let me know what you think. :)

BTW: on another note, I was going to suggest to the senior staff that pages like the KVAR's bullpup kit for the AK (as seen on the gun page [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]] doesn't merit a different page since it is just a commercial after market stock kit that goes on any AK and itself is not a weapon itself. The same goes for the [[Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup]] ... there is no such thing as a Muzzelite MZ14. It is a plastic aftermarket bullpup stock kit that can go on either a Mini14, a 10-22 or a Marlin Camp 9 carbine. It has only ever been seen in movies with a Mini-14 inside. It does not merit a separate page since it is not a real gun, but a stock kit for an existing gun (i.e. the Mini-14). Curious to know what you think of that as well. :) Always good to hear your input.

== Re: ''Lord of War'' ==

I believe the 400px size is just fine for screenshots, as it's usually big enough to give a good view of what's being shown in the image, and you can always click on the image to view it larger if you want. You don't see full-size images posted in articles on Wikipedia, after all. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:24, 4 August 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

== Hey ==

Hey MT2008, I'm [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]], I seen your comment on my talk page about the most guns in movies like [[District B13]], and I would like to wish you good luck with your [[Hard Boiled]] and beating the records for most guns. I work on this site myself once in awhile, the reason you don't see me much on here is because I'm not as active on this site as I used to be, but I still like to do some screencappping once in awhile. I also want to say you take good screenshots and make great pages, so keep up the good work. Also, are you going to do [[Belly]] and [[Boyz n the Hood]] again? not that I'm trying to rush you to do them, I'm just wondering. And again keep up the good work. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Hey again ==

Hey, no problem, and good luck with everything. Good work on cleaning up the Beretta page, it looks much better. Also, you said you like Taurus PT92s, right? Well, I uploaded a screenshot with a very nice looking one for the [[Shooter]] page a week or two ago if you want to check it out. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

Yep, I'm one of moderators, as well as Orca, who I'm sure you met already. if you have any problems with anybody vandalizing or spamming your pages, or anything on this site, just let me know. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

To space out pages, I notice some people just space out the variants as much as they need to until they get the desired effect, it's worth a try. Thanks for complimenting [[Shooter]] by the way, I myself like the Berettas, I always liked the way they look. And about the M1911A1 page, yeah, that page does need work, especially with all those variants that nothing listed for them. Anyway, good luck with the pages, and I'll be sure to help out as much as I can. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

==Question==
Hi MT2008, I was just reading over your profile (because I like to know those I work with) and I noticed the M1911/M1911A1 isn't to be found on your favorite guns page. I'm not trying to preach it to you or anything, but I practically worship the handgun. John M. Browning, possibley the most ingenius gunmaker of all time, pretty much birthed the conventional self-loading pistol. This pistol was so good, it still stayed in US service up until Desert Storm, when the M9 took over (not exactly a loved desision today). Keep in mind, the blowback locking breach action of Browning's 1911 has been used in glocks, USPs, Berettas, and many other handguns today. You can say it is really the grandfather of all handguns. Yet it can't truly be beaten in basic design. His idea was so good, it still is unbeaten today 97 years later. It's simple, reliable, versatile, accurate, powerful, and it hold 7 shots... my lucky number. And capacity isn't a problem with the Para-Ordinance models anymore. Whoops, this strayed from being a question. Like I said, I don't mean to preach, but I just thought I'd let you know. (Plus, Browning thought up that frame mounted slide stop safety you like so much on the PT92.) As always, I like your work and your a great contributor to the site. Keep up the good work, and take in mind what I said. (Note how I wrote an essay on the .45 on the page. All that from well remembered memory. Double checked of course.) [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== ''U.S. Marshals'' Screenshot Needed ==

Hello, I was wondering if you could help me with something? I noticed that you got most of the screenshots for ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'', and I was wondering if you could get one of [[Robert Downey Jr.]] from it, possibly with him using his [[Taurus PT945]] or [[Glock#Glock 22|Glock 22]] for the article on that actor? It would be greatly appreciated.

[[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

==Photo request for SIGP226==
Funny that you'd ask. I tried swapping them in the past. They don't fit. They're the same guns, but the finishes throw the tolerances all off. I can't get a silver slide to even FIT onto a standard black frame and vice versa. I may be able to FORCE it, but the gun won't be fireable. Any two toned guns you see, were either fixed and fitted by a really good gunsmith or were finished by the factory. But it's impossible to swap slides and frames on those guns if they're of different finishes.

==MT2008's question re: Colt Launchers==
Though I may be wrong, I have not heard of a COLT manufactured 37mm launcher. They may have made one, but it is not well known and I can't find any independent verification of it but then I haven't scrutinized all products made by Colt. The photos on the page show a 37mm launcher, but I can't see any Colt markings. These look like the ones that were made by RPB/SWD and of course Cobray as far as I know. Also I know for a fact that 99.99% of the M203 launchers seen in movies are COBRAY manufactured CM203 37mm launchers. Sometimes we pull out the REAL destructive Device M203 (I have access to several) when a film specifically asked for one where they can see more details (the real M203 is a rifled barrel, the 37mm flare launcher is a smooth bore, amongst other differences) but most of them are Cobray 37mm launchers. I will of course yield if I can be pointed to an independent info source or web page that specifically confirms a COLT marked 37mm launcher but right now, I can definitely tell you that all of the 'fake 40mm launchers" I've seen on movie/television sets are Cobray or RPB or SWD manufactured 37mm launchers. I'm pretty sure anything built by Colt would have the Colt logo stamped on the item. If you verify any info on Colts, please pass it along :) Sigh. On another note, I guess I will have to photograph my M203s in detail for this site as well. MPM2008

(Edit), Well I've been looking for a while and even checked the full listings of weapons currently manufactured and distributed by Colt Inc, Colt LLC or any of the other possible names for COLT. As far as I know, Colt does NOT make 37mm Launchers. Why should they? They make the 40mm Launchers. I've done a google search and as far as 30 pages in, I've never found ONE reference to a 37mm launcher that was not a Cobray/SWD/RPB manufacture or the M203 Airsoft model (which some gun writers, or sellers wrongly confuse with a flare launcher.)

I am in support of eliminating the Colt Flare Launcher page, since I can find no evidence to support it. Please reply and let me know your thoughts.

==Thanks==
Hope you don't think I'm badgering you. Just trying to be thorough. :) re: research into the CFL page. Anyway, I really gotta run now, I got tons of weapons to organize and deal with.... and people are waiting for me. :) Thanks again. MPM2008

==Reply==
About the Mossberg 500s, I believe a cruiser comes standard on the gun, os they are most likely 500s with pistol grips or they had the heat shields removed.

==More pics==
Hope you like the new pics. I've been going NUTS photographing M16s hahahahaha and I finally uploaded the M14 pics that Gunmaster Requested :) Hey, I even got a Diemaco C7 ! ;) I will try to get a shot of THAT. :) I can only do a few weapons a day since it takes longer than expected to photograph them. I did finally get to photograph my Remington PSS 700. I hope to do the Type 84 sometime soon, but I have to tear some of them down to original configuration and that takes some time. I want to get better M4 Pics and M4 with accessories. I am also going to photograph more of my FALS and G3 variants when I get the chance. And I will try to figure out a way to do your P226 shots. :) Best regards MoviePropMaster2008.

==XM177==
Some good news. I now have Every variant of the original XM177s. It took a while since so many of them were in 'pieces'. Including at least three variations of the 'fake' XM177s that we see in movies like [[Blood Diamond]]. I am really looking forward to posting good shots of all the XM177 guns. I think that IMFDB is the only place on the web that will have these pics. I may have to get an airsoft gun just to show the difference, since so many of the shots here on IMFDB are airsoft guns (ugh!). MPM2008 ''(Edit: Damned IMFDB logged me out in the middle of my post to you! Weird). Well It's really ME typing this, not some unknown IP address.)''

== Re: Beretta ==

Thanks for the correction, the 92 FS thing was from the other articles I copied and pasted from to get things done faster, but I'll be sure to use the correct spelling for now on. And thanks for uploading the Beretta used in the film, it's very cool. Also, what do you think of [[Die Hard with a Vengence]] now? --[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:57, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

There you go, I uploaded the scene you talked about and noted that they were really BB guns, let me know if the screencap is good enough--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

==RE:Dirty Harry==
That's what I meant by in full, by actually screencapping the movie 100% second by second. I never understood why people would screencap half a page and then stop, is it lazyness or something? I always go second by second through a movie and grab as many good shots as possible. To me, you can never have too many shots of one gun, as my 15 AKM shots in Rambo II will show soon. I also had plans to eventually add some shots to Saving Private Ryan like how I added shots to BB2 and Black Hawk down just to make it more full and maybe tears of the sun. I'm kinda sick today but I'll try to get Rambo II uploaded as soon as I can.

==Re: Your comment on the Rambo II HK93==
Though that is a reasonable assumption, there is no evidence that the gun was a 93. When I was at the Stembridge gun room in the 1980s I distinctly recall that there were as many HK33s as there were HK93s. I know, nowadays, that seems weird, but not so weird when we could import anything we wanted back in the day.... Thanks. The guns which were TONS of conversions were the MP5s (originallyi HK94s), AR15s into M16s and ARMs/Type 56s into full auto AKs. Just noting ... BTW: Now that I submitted a shot of my HK33, I'm photographing my HK93. Sure hope folks (other than you :) ) appreciate all the original gun pics .... hahaha. best regards, MPM2008

==Finally put the MP5A5 in==
That's been bugging me for a long time. The MP5A5 picture wasn't even an A5. Finally got the correct pic in. :) Am staring at a rack of shotguns that I have to photograph for the site, but gotta get to it. :)

==Saving Private Ryan==
What do you think of the new and improved [[Saving Private Ryan]] page? -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]

:Thanks, I can't stand watching the debates but I thought I'd share how I own an M1 Garand myself. A battle hardened Garand that served in WWII and was then Re-Issued in Korea. It is fitted with the Korea era sling. And the best part. Only $600 bucks! I had a WWII guns phase and me and my father did a lot of searching. Still wish I could get an M1A1 Thompson and a B.A.R. Too hard to get cheap and legal though. -GM

::I also have two clips for it in my room, one of which is load with dummy rounds so I can cycle it. Most people think the clip pings when it hits the ground but it pings as it leaves the gun. Also, the little button on the left side allows you to do what some rocking chair commandos say is immpossible. RELOAD. Pull the bolt back and press it and the clip pops out no matter how loaded it is. I can also field strip it and clean it. It shoots nice too.
:And on the A-Team page, I sent a message to Bunni on how only registered users should be able to edit the site. Unregistered users should only view. It would make all our lives a lot easier, don't you think? I'll fix it now.

==Garand Pics==
My M1 rifle:
[[Image:100 2842.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1 Garand rifle with En-Bloc clip, loaded with dummy rounds.]]
[[Image:100 2843.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The gun is too long for one clear shot! This is the barrel end, note '50s era Korean war sling.]]
[[Image:100 2844.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The En-bloc clip loaded half way in the Garand.]]
:Pretty cool, huh? I'm gonna upload more on my page so everyone can see my neat stuff.

==Edit--
Removed the old Airsoft pic of the 870 . :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:50, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

==Ask and Ye shall Receive==

This is the best I can do. My Sigs aren't exactly the same as some of the movie guns by other armorers. They ARE blank adapted movie guns and they ARE well worn, due to abuse by actors and stuntmen but we all know that. :) Can you use these? You're the first one to see them. I haven't even added them to the SIG page because they're special pieces.

[[Image:SigP226TwoTone01.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px]]
[[Image:SigP226TwoTone02.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px]]

==Two Tones part 2==
:''Thank you SO much! Those look great, and actually, they look very close to the ones that have appeared in quite a few movies. We can start replacing the two-tone SIG pics that we have on our other pages with these immediately! Again, I greatly appreciate you doing this for me. ''

Here is another one. I forgot to swap out the silver hammers (based on the pic with John Travolta, so here is one. I've seen it in every configuration. Sometimes the factory does it, so there are lots of opposite color highlights (trigger, breakdown pin, safety, etc.) and then there are the simple 'swap the barrel & Slide' variety.

[[Image:SigP226TwoTone03.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Two tone Sig P226 with SILVER HAMMER this time]]

:''How will I ever repay you?''

Lots of booze, gold and women... ;)

:''Out of curiosity, since you told me that they usually don't fit, how did you make them work together? -MT2008 ''

Oh they fit, but you have to force it and they won't cycle. The black slide SIG, when you pull the slide back (you have to pull it HARD) it won't even move forward. You have to tap it with a mallet to make it slide forward to cycle a round. Also you can fire one blank out of the gun and the slide will 'stick' back even with a full magazine. Unless the factory does it (which they do) you have to take it to a smith to 'fit' the parts. Fun Huh? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==More of your questions answered==
Sorry about that but these smaller questions get lost in the shuffle.

* Why didn't Stembridge convert HK94s further? Answer: They did. There were lots of conversion kits available in the 1980s (a lot through Shotgun news). Paddles and full auto trigger packs with the SEF lowers were also available from many vendors back in the day. A lot of Stembridge's guns, scratch that, MOST of the MP5s were converted HK94s. Why? Back in the day a factory FULL AUTO MP5 was $2500. An HK94 (from 1983-1988) was about $699.00 at the local sporting goods store. Wholesale it was about $499.00 Convert it in shop and pay the $200 tax stamp, it's still way cheaper than buying a new MP5 (at the time). They still used full auto HK94s until they closed (the first time) in 2000. Alot of the MP5s were conversions done all the way (with new barrels, paddles and lower trigger packs). Heck, we do that too. If we have an old MP5 we just put a new lower on it and ta-dah! MP5A5! etc. etc. If you see more obvious HK94 conversion guns, it's just that those are the ones grabbed off the rack. Or else they ran out of the fully 'tricked out' ones.

* Is the SIG P220 Sport from Cinema Weaponry? Answer: No, it's mine. :) BTW Mike Papac from Cinema Weaponry is off on the east coast shooting some film with Mel Gibson right now, so I can't ask him trivia questions about the films he worked on. At least until he and I do lunch again. ;)

* AK Shorty? Answer: I will check with Harry Lu when I see him, but he's working A LOT and isn't in town all that often. But I will try.

* How do we feel about anti gun projects? Answer: normally it's not an issue. Most of the time, we don't even know the SCRIPT for the movie. We're probably the lowest level of crew. Notice how the lowest art director's assistant or 'HORSE wrangler' gets credited BEFORE the armorer does? But if something is just outrageous, NONE of us will work on it. A few years back a really atrocious script was being floated and none of the weapons rentals guys would work on it, me included. It was very refreshing to see that even guys in Atlanta, Florida and New York wouldn't touch it either. Can't say much about the horrible script but it was REALLY offensive to anyone who likes guns in America. And no one did it. The filmmakers were astonished that no one would help them. It was funny to see. Most of the ACTORS and Directors/Producers are ultra left gun haters anyway. So we avoid talking to them about ANYTHING other than the movie and what we have to do on set. It's better that way.

* M16A2 Answer: I will try to get to it. I have a bunch of real A3s and A4s that I can shoot as well, even though they really look alike from more than a few inches away ;) I am trying to get a good M4 carbine shot. All the ones that are available have custom crap on them ( like custom flash hiders/muzzle brakes) that very few people would recognize. I'm trying to get ICONIC aka classic look images of the gun. On that note, I want to replace that Ruger Mini-30 shot with a factory standard looking shot. I DO have a bunch of A2s that I will try to photograph.

What do you think of the 12 gauge pump shotgun page? Dumb idea? Input would be appreciated.

Also I think I need to put a separate WISH LIST page together, since I'm getting a lot of requests for photos of certain guns. I wonder if anyone from other gun sites are jealous of the gun pics that IMFDB has? hahahahaha. That's one thing that keeps me going! but don't tell anyone.... MPM2008

==Casino Royale==
Uh dude. you're right and that other guy is wrong. No way it's a Zastava M76. I think there is a foreign name for the WASR 3 gun (the one NOT imported into the US), but I don't know what it is. Robey can get all that stuff that good old' BATF won't allow into this country. :( Check out the flash hider, the front sight, the foregrip and the grenade launcher sight. What confuses a lot of people up is that Zastava also has a dragunov like SNIPER rifle also called the M76.
[[Image:Zastava-M76.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Zastava M76 Rifle - 5.56x45mm ]]

==XXX==
The MP9 is seldom seen in the movie and the non-screenshot pic is better than the shots in the movie. She fires it eyes closed and the muzzle flash and smoke make it hard to see (in pretty much the only scene she uses it). I pretty much took what I could get. -GM45

==Where Eagles Dare==
Nice job so far, you've gotten a lot done very quickly. It certainly looks more filled out then it did before. It wasn't even in proper format to the site. Keep up the good work, I'll look at it more when I finish [[Kelly's Heroes]]. -GM45

== Bad Boys II P226 ==

About the [[Bad Boys II]] page, should we use the Two Tone P226 with the black hammer for the P226 section? I'm asking this because I noticed the hammer was black on Martin Lawrence's P226, it's entirely up to you because I figured you might want it to look as much like the gun in the film as possible.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:54, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

== Need some help ==

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber

== Re:Beretta M92FS ==

I just started doing the honors (forgot to log in of course), And thanks for telling me if there were any differences between them. I'm going to watch Heroes for an hour now, but I'll get right back on replacing the images when I get back.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:02, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Should cartoons be allowed? ==

I want to know if it is either no one cares about the fact that cartoons like Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and recently South Park had been allowed to this site. I have don't think these pages should exist because do you think about the rare guns that appears on those shows and wonder what they are? Cause I sure don't. I'm too busy laughing my ass off to how funny these series are, not wondering if the shotgun Homer used in the Zombie episode was a Winchester Model 1887 or that it never appeared in any other episode following. I don't care and I dont think anyone else should care. We're getting cartoon fanboys that thinks just because Family Guy has an episode where Stewie has a closet full of look alike guns, means we should write a page about them. Those guns are not the point of the show and the artist that drew them obviously didn't take much consideration for them or mention. I think Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and South Park be removed at once. None of them deserve to be on this site. And whoever puts them here doesn't respect this site enough.

==New Pics==
:''I'm also curious...what would you think of a page dedicated to explaining the importance of your gun images to new users of the site, and featuring examples of your work? It would be linked from the main page.''
Don't know exactly what you mean. I know that some of the mods have had to restore some of my pics in the past when a new member replaced them with a stolen airsoft pics. As far as pointing out the movie guns, Don't know if it's important. Most of the new pictures of guns are indeed movie guns but since I can't confirm what they've been in (I suspect some of the really NICE and clean versions haven't been out at all, being that actors are idiots who break EVERYTHING they touch), I tend to just like having them here as a crisp clean photograph of the gun (and ones that only IMFDB has and no other website does). I tend to keep a low profile but only need to have the most active members (GM45, MT2008, ORCA, Alienqueen, Bunni, Excal, etc.) in the communication loop for the most part.

If you have a specific idea, let me know. :)

BTW: just came back from ANOTHER shoot. An actor who was just standing there in an open field waiting for his shot, DROPPED, my Colt M4 Carbine with RIS rails, L mount and Aimpoint sight on the ONE patch of concrete (left over from a demolished building from 1900) in an entire field of soft dirt. Literally it was 100 yards of soft dirt and grass and he manages to find the ONE patch of concrete in several acres and drops my gun on it. He cracked the knob of the L mount off the gun. This was a pristine gun and yet another actor finds a way to Fuck it all up. Figures. :(

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
==Re: Helping out with replacing pics==
Thanks for helping on replacing the new pics with the old ones. Since I have limited time, I spend it mostly grabbing the guns and photographing them. A lot of the guns need to be reconfigured (custom stuff removed, classic buttstocks or flash hiders put BACK on, etc.) Hopefully other members can help with the task of updating some of the older pages. I do it when I see something but since my time is limited I'd rather spend it getting the list of request images done, rather than spending it editing other pages. Thanks.

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Dawn of the Dead ==

Hey, I just uploaded some new [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights. Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:43, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Disregard, GM45 answered my questions.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:55, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

It's okay, I'm sure you would have did your best. And don't worry, I got your message on the [[Die Hard 2]] talk page, and I promise I'll have some new MP5 shots Friday, and I'm also going to upload some new screencaps for the original [[Die Hard]] eventually, and also replace those Youtube quality shots that are on the page now. And also, do you like the new Beretta Inox shots for the [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] page?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh yea, I saw your message on the [[Beretta M92F]] talk page, and I approve moving it to a different name since it dosen't really make sense to have it titled "Beretta M92F" when it includes 92Gs and 92SBs. Feel free to move the page whenever you're ready.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it'll messed up pages with the original links (atleast I hope not) because the M1911 Series page used to be called 1911 and the Beretta M92F page used to be referred to as Beretta 92 and the links didn't react badly to the renaming back then. I'd say go for it, and if anything goes wrong I'll help fix the links.

And yeah, titles linking to gun pages irks me for the same reasons. Some user who made an account when the site was getting started created that trend, I also hate it because when new users see pages like that, they sometimes get the wrong idea on editing and making pages.

And yes, I'll be more then happy get rid of any pages you don't want. Just send me a list of them, and they'll be gone.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

There you go, that should give us a little more server space. I really hate when people create duplicate pages of movies we already have on here, they can atleast check first before making a page. And that Terrorist and Top Ten Rifles pages were of no use to the site, I don't even understand why people create stupid pages like that. Well, anyway, thanks for letting me know about those pages, the site will be better off without them, if you come across anything else, just give me a call.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:05, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll delete them as I come across them. Also can you do me a favor? Redirect the [[Shoot to kill]] page to a properly punctuated title, I would do it, but I don't really know how to redirect pages. Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Also to answer an earlier question, to check what pages or images link to a particular page, go a page such as [[Beretta M92F]], and look in the toolbox, and click on "what links here".--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:51, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

No problem, let me know how it goes once you do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:57, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

== Tybalts Gun ==

I was wondering if you know where I can find a compensator like the one on tybalts taurus. Thanks
::Since this guy is anonymous, I can't message him so I hope you don't mind if I tell him on your discussion board MT. Some sites are www.Gunbroker.com, www.eBay.com, www.Gunsamerica.com. Search, search, and search some more. You'll find whatever you need on those. I got a compensator for my M1911 on ebay. -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]

I protected all MPM2008's pictures. And yea, that one user is really pissing me off, he dosen't listen and dosen't seem to know a good picture when he sees one. MPM2008 puts too much effort into his images for idiots to upload crappy pictures (Which they probably found on Google) over them like that. Anyway, thanks for reverting the USP image, I also hope to able to block users back soon because I could really use that.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

==Special page==
I'm too tired right now to formulate a good response, :) But I will get to that, re the new special page, but I tend to lean away from drawing undue attention to my efforts. :) MPM2008

==keeping me honest==
Remember if you see an obvious screw up in my updates, please correct it and let me know. I now triple check when someone brings something up. :) I may not have time to do another photo shoot until this weekend. :) MPM2008

== Problem fixed ==

I have good news, thanks to Bunni, we have the ability to block users back, and I also want to let you know that Hieloco is now gone, he'll never be able to upload images, or edit again. By the way, I recommended you and GM45 for positions as moderators.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:26, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

The position could still be useful to you in other ways as well. Even if you're unable to catch vandals right away, you can still use the priviledge to delete any pages you don't want or protect them. It's entirely up to you, if you're not interested, just let me know, and I'll tell Bunni.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:47, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Just made you an Admin ==

You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

==Beretta Inox flashpaper gun==
It's funny how you uploaded the ISS Beretta Inox, because I'm making the punisher page now and Travolta uses that gun. -GM
: I also have an ISS .45 uploaded on [[A Beautiful Mind]] if you need it. -GM
Whatever is easier for you is fine by me. I'll make sure to check it out when your done. - GM
: I knew that blanks expanded like that, I guess I just saw what looked like a live round. Whoops. -GM

==non guns==
Awesome work on the page. Don't know where you got the pics of the devices, but they're very well known around here. And I think they're particularly fugly. ISS is all hot shit on the fact that "They" have the only "NON" guns. Now you know that no one OWNS a Panavision camera. They are all OWNED by Panavision and owners/rental houses/etc. only '''lease''' them from Panavision. Just like most of the DOLLIES used in tracking shots, these items are never sold, only LEASED and can be 'recalled' to the parent company at any time. Well NON guns are only available from one place. Other armories cannot ever buy them. We can only subrent them. This new page may not be particularly pretty (the guns are pretty ugly) but it is an important educational element to understanding weapons in films. Usually they're used in places where you can't fire a real gun but need a flash (I filmed in a building right next to a children's hospital and no blanks were allowed), I know of friends who did shoot outs right outside the WHITE HOUSE, and the secret service would only approve of the non guns, and most of the time in NYC, who has such F$*(&ed up gun laws, that most actual gun fire sequences in major motion pictures are done OUTSIDE of the limits of NYC. Great work! IMFDB is getting to be THE definite "weapons in movies" info page!

==Pics==
Sorry, I've been really SICK for the last ten days and haven't had a time to set up and take pics of guns. When I sit down and rest, i've managed to upload just some files I already had prepared on my computer, but it was just being able to sit down and do stuff that made it possible. Yeah, I know, gun pics are all I'm good for ... ;) Also it's been crazy busy around here. I'm tempted to start making up an "Hello IMFDB" card and start taking pics of actors/actresses in motion pictures holding it and posting them here as a giggle. Usually also holding a movie gun as well. You guys tell me what to put on the card, and I'll start taking it with me to sets, and get famous actors to have their pic taken holding it. I was thinking the IMFDB logo. Again it only works if I can get people to take out a few minutes to do that. The last several productions have been insanely busy and last minute. Usually I get called to the set to bring a gun to an actor, literally SECONDS before the camera rolls. Of course I do a training and practice session if they're firing it, but when I'm handing off an obvious deactivated gun or non firing prop weapon, usually it's totally last minute.

== Re: Screenshots ==

Okay, I'll leave them alone. I also spotted some very good [[Ronin]] screenshots that MoviePropMaster uploaded, want me to leave those as well?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:06, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed some of the Grand Theft Auto 4 pictures that were on the site before the Great Crash, I'll leave them there for use in the future. do you want me to get rid of the old Hulk Screenshots?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Good Job, Now that most of them are gone, we should have a ton of room for new and better images. And I agree, seeing how Chaos was, there's no telling how many more extra gun images are out there, I'll be sure to keep an eye for anymore like that because happen to noticed you deleted like atleast three Beretta 92FS pictures. And yea, I really wish people wouldn't upload extra gun pictures, especially when we have the ones MPM2008 taken, there should be no need for them to upload their own images. I'll be sure to check the Revolver page as well.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Okay the ugly gun has a good looking cousin!==
you asked for this a long time back .... BTW, got the Type 84S as well ....
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:NorincoType84SRifle.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the PSG pic

==Question==
I have some SR9 sniper rifles. These were actually 'built' up from HK91 rifles back in the day (alot of the movie guns are 'built' rather than factory stock. I'm sure you know especially the history of the "MP5 versus the HK94 conversions" or the endless "Type 56 versus every AK variant on the planet".) As far as a 'historical reference of the real guns' "Hollywood guns" fall short. My "SR9" upper receivers don't have the forward assist of the actual SR9 guns, but everything else is correct. Is it wrong to post the pics? These guns HAVE been in films and TV shows in the past. The SR9 pictured was in "Nash Bridges" at least once. (edit) and you can see the same SR9 style gun used in SNIPER with Billy Zane, But real gun aficionados might wonder why the upper receiver looks more like a 91 versus an SR9. I will try to get a REAL SR9 rifle and post that pic, but I'm torn, being that we use built up SR9s in American movies and tv shows, though some other armorers have the 'real deal'. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:07, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Type 56 underfolder==
[[Image:Type56MuzzleBrake.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
I just saw GOLDENEYE again this weekend on the television and noticed that the 'cuban' soldiers at the end had Type 56 rifles under folder style with those fake AK74 muzzle brakes on them. So I popped a fake AK74 muzzle brake on one of my Type 56 underfolders and took a pic (for the Goldeneye page). Just a note, all of my own bolt carriers have been blued (after the fact). I should have kept some of them 'silver' for times like these. I will try to track down an unmodified bolt carrier and reshoot some of the guns so that they look stock. The Type 84 has a blued bolt carrier and the original factory model does not.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:39, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==SR9s and AKs==
The SR9 in the Replacement killers is a built gun. It has a different lower (see the S-F versus the 0-1) but it doesn't seem to have the forward assist that the SR9 should have (look at the PSG1 to see what the forward assist looks like). But 99.99% of the SR9 guns in movie inventories are built guns. I've only seen authentic guns in foreign movies with foreign armorers. I don't have the exact right Buttstock for my 'faux' SR9T. Is that too distracting? It's been used in films as an SR9T despite the fact that it's a SG/1 buttstock. Again, hollywood 'secrets' are being shattered on this site. But this is not a 'history of firearms' site, in as so much as it is a 'Firearms in the movies' site. And the reality of films is way different than that of guns in the real world, many times.

You're right about the Cuban soldiers. I watched it again on DVD and though in some angles (the forest near the satellite dish) the mags seem dark, it could just be the angle. I will change the AK Underfolder shot... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:14, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

==SR9==
:''I figured since the SR9 used to be a readily available civilian "assault rifle", armorers would use it. ''

Available yes, readily available no. Since only 125 TCs were imported into the entire USA and only 100 T models, most of these were snapped up by either law enforcement or collectors. Clinton put a stop to their import since they could accept 'high capacity' magazines. I tried for years ever since they started coming out to get a real one but couldn't just because they were hard to get (at least on the West coast). It also depended on which distributor one was cozy with. Since the rifles themselves were all built on HK91 receivers anyway, it was easier to get the parts and convert existing HK91s. Since THESE guns have impersonated real TC guns I figured why the hell not? The screencap of Billy Zane in Sniper is one of these very guns. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:43, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on [[Four Brothers]]. I think there's also a "Non Gun" Glock in the Glock 17 section if you want to look at that.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

==worries==
:''Hope it doesn't bother you that we're unmasking all of the various tricks that you armorers have been using over the years to convince moviegoers they're seeing one gun when it's actually another!''

I was just worried about places like the HK forums with all of those HK enthusiasts. What concerns me is that some people in the firearms community, who are purists, won't understand that IMFDB is not a 'gun history' site per se, but a "history of guns in the movies" site. I actually got worried that HK aficionados would be offended that I had posted images of 'built' movie guns that closely approximate a specific gun, like the movie built SR9T guns rather than getting a bonafide SR9T... when I actually stop to think of it. I will really try to get the real deal in a photo (borrow them from collectors if I have to), but in reality, (just like having Type 56 rifles or Maadis impersonate the REAL AKs in films), movie guys impersonate a few guns, just because it was easier to do so at the time. Like the Fake XM8s in xXx:State of the Union, it all seems so 'fake' when it's revealed to the public, kinda like a magician's tricks. As far as bothering me, no, it is information and cinema history that needs to be collected and shared. I just feel a little weird presenting to gun people ''"Here is a fake Machine gun '_ _ _ _' that we had to build from plastic and metal parts because we didn't have access to the real one (like the DShKs)"'' If you get my meaning. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

==New pics==
Well I finally got the M16A2 done, I'll get the A3 and A4 as well as a Diemaco done soon. Finally I got to replace my old HK91 pic! :) woohoo! there was a shadow on the upper handguard that bugs me. Does it bug you? The lights were too close and didn't cover the entire rifle. It's not a stock HK magazine, though, it's one of those Taiwanese Blued 30 round magazines that were imported in the 1990s. I'm pretty happy though, I think this is one of the best pics of the HK91 on the web right now. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:HK Model 91.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

==Luger P08==
(posted this to Alienqueen as well) :) . I finally posted a pic of one of the Lugers we have in inventory. Apparently this is one of the Luger P08s used on the Television show "Hogan's Heroes" in the 1960s. It sure is beat up. Though that info is third hand is the only reason I don't post it because I don't have the info directly from the source. The Barrel was replaced about 20 years ago for some reason, which is why the finish doesn't match. It's a bit of TV history, thought you'd get a kick out of it. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:08, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:LugerP08Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Congrats==
Congratulations on the upcoming P226! I wish it was as easy to buy a handgun in NY as it is in Texas. NY sucks with gun laws (gun control laws are bullshit). If my dad wasn't a liscense FFL dealer, I'd have pretty much no chance of enjoying the guns I enjoy now.
: I got [[Last Man Standing]] finished and I'm going to do [[Shawshank Redemption]] and [[Hotel Rwanda]] soon. Then I'm going to try to fully do [[The Dirty Dozen]] and then I've only got 10 more movies on my list to do. (including the The whole yards movies, some war movies, and Blazing Saddles.) I'll try to get them all done by the end of the month.
P.S. Not to get political, but I hope Biden keeps his Assault Weapons Ban to himself, because not many know he wrote Clinton's ban. If he focuses on gun control during Obama's term, we are majorly fucked (excuse the language). -GM
::My father is the same way with assault rifles. He says he doesn't like guns designed to kill. Splitting hairs there. Biden's ban is ridiculous though, he believes any semi-auto gun is considered an assault weapon, including the Browning A5 and the Ruger 10/22! It is foolish and I can't say anything threatening about him because he is VP, but I STRONGLY DISLIKE HIM. [insert uber-insulting text]. I don't understand how people like him make it into office. Dammit, I started a political discussion. -GM

==Taurus 85==
:''There's only one that troubles - I think the newer Taurus 85 image is a bit fuzzier compared to the old one. ''
WTF? try refreshing and looking at the file again. That might fix it. The new pic is way clearer than the old one. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==G3 page==
Ugh. Looks like Kin93 added some pics, but I'm not sure if we need to list ones that don't appear in any movie or flick. What are your thoughts? Also the formatting of the G3 page is going all to hell. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==emasculated guns and a discovery==
Well, none of the armorers that I know have those castrated thumbhole HK "Sporting purpose" guns with the neutered forearm (designed to not resemble a "military forearm" woooooo Scary.....). I mean, we don't have pics of all the THUMBHOLE monstrosity AKs (the MAK-90s, the NHMs, etc. etc.) that were imported in the 1990s. Because they weren't used for the most part (I do know of some B movies which had them, but until we list those films, I don't think we should have the pics). It's a bit like all those weird Cutaway shots of guns that have NEVER been in a movie. What's the point? It just clutters the pages and site and doesn't educate anyone about guns in films.

BTW: I found one of those long barreled mystery AK folders I was mystified by in "stealth". Well I don't have it now, but I will try to photograph one when I visit one of my Canadian armorer friends in January. It's the Norinco Type 84 Target Match rifle (with either full stock or folding stock). Very FEW got into the U.S., but they were heavily imported into Canada (that is until the Montreal Massacre of 1989 when that psycho Marc Lépine murdered 14 female students with a Mini-14, however, it took the Canadian government until 1995 to ban Semiautomatic long guns in Canada). So the Canadians had five more years of importing ugly guns than we did. Anyway, my gun control vent is off now ;) I will get a shot of the long barreled Norinco Type 84. :) woo hoo. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

:''And yes, we definitely have some of the best gun pics on the 'Net thanks to you. I must admit I'm still smitten with the fact that Norinco Type 84 pics are basically non-existent in just about any gun image site around (even World Guns, which is usually pretty reliable)...except here. ''
Actually World Guns has pretty crappy photography and I'm pretty sure they jack their shots from other sources as well. That's the reason why I work so hard on the photos. The Net has crap pics of guns. Most of the guys don't know how to take a decent picture (some of the guys take some nice outdoor pics though). I've always liked those Japanese gun magazines with the outrageously sexy product photos of firearms. Those Japanese photographers always knew how to take awesome pics of guns. Anyway I will continue to try to photograph as much as I can. It's still a long while before I 'run out' of guns to take pictures of. I just need to (a) clean some of them up (b)repair some of them or (c) assemble them. As I mentioned before, I have ALL the parts to make all of the correct XM177 models (original USGI parts) but they're all in bins, mismatched. That's one of the things I've always wanted to do, being that so many people screw up and name 'everything' a Colt Commando, when the Commando was a specific type of firearm. Today is a busy day so not much more stuff from me for a little bit. regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I've seen that feature and took some screengrabs from it. I'm going to put those up after I'm done with the movie shots. Thanks for the remainder too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

== Want me to stop? ==

Cause I just got Pineapple Express, Wanted, Mummy 3. All these movies. I mean, I got the Incridible Hulk before it came out on DVD, I got Iron Man before it came out. Do you want me to leave disclaimers? Want me to stop?

::Fine, I'll stop. And I was actually excited in rewatching Mummy 3 again just to see the guns
:::Right, but still, I mean if we get screencaps from the DVDs and posted it here, aren't we still taking copyrighted images and posting them? How is doing that and taking something from a bootlegged copy any different?
::::I didn't say I did, and I didn't write down here if I even took these off of a bootleg movie that I might or might not have downloaded. I could have found a website that I don't remember. I'll stop posting images from something that isn't offical, IE like a DVD but I am going to write it here that just because the evidence points that these might or might not have been from bootlegged material, doesn't mean I did the bootlegging. I don't want to be accused officially and my words written on this site turned against me. I will not admit or deny anything. But I will stop posting photos that can be questioned.
:::::''My thoughts. Excaliber01, I would not post anything that has not been officially '''released'''. I myself posted pics from the '''Body of Lies''' high definition trailer on the web, as well as the Ironman movie , but that was an officially released trailer and was not a bootleg. I've dealt with MPAA and posting images from screen caps, as long as you're writing something 'newsworthy' or 'educational' about the film, doesn't seem to ruffle many feathers. It dances on the line of being 'journalism' if you're writing about the film, not promoting or doing any fan stuff about it, or using it for any self promotion or commercial purposes. After all, how can anyone '''prove''' that a particular gun appear in a scene, unless there is a screengrab to prove it? However, anything that can be construed as a '''bootleg''' should be avoided. This changes the entire attitude of folks, especially people in the industry and it may direct unwanted attention to IMFDB if we started regularly having proof that a member is posting images from a '''bootleg''' dvd. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:09, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

==The page==
Wow. Don't know what to say. I've been gone doing the "gun Thing" the last several days, so I've been offline. thanks! However, I do stay anonymous for a reason. (a) the film industry (and Hollywood in particular) is full of ultra liberal, anti gun persons ... petty and vindictive persons. They think everyone is one of them ... thinks like them ... and those who do not can suffer their wrath, whether it be through pressure or innuendo. There are tons of folks who are blackballed (not officially) but when any powerful individual doesn't like them ... that person 'magically' can't find work... It's probably one of the most dysfunctional industries in existence, save for the "XXX" adult biz. (b) I never draw attention to myself, only presenting my 'cred' when I'm discussing topics or details with other enthusiasts who seem 'serious enough' about the site. I want freedom to post freely without fear of the repercussions of bad mouthing individuals in the biz. Also it's not about me, but what I can contribute to the site. Alot of the armorers stay pretty low key. I'm actually one of the more opinionated ones. We all talk amongst ourselves, but I've noticed that most of the industry biggies (the most famous working armorers) stay very MUM on the topics of politics or gun control. Weird that people would not put 2 and 2 together, i.e. We work with guns ... but we don't support ultra liberal Democrats who want to BAN guns. It's all part of the ignorance of weapons in movies. I don't know HOW many times I've heard "Oh, you don't use REAL guns do you?", or "Oh, the gun bans won't affect YOU!". Which as you know is total bullshit on both counts. Frankly, the powers that be don't give a crap. Most of the industry 'lower echelon people' keep quiet. I have to bite my tongue when I work, but I don't want to have to bite my tongue when I post ;) (c) Some people are 'asshole magnets'. I know a lot of women who have attracted internet stalkers. I, unfortunately have general idiots doing the whole internet harassment thing already (people posting a person's real name, address, phone#, doing weird things like saying they work as a janitor or dropped out of High school (yes both those falsehoods have been posted). It's always disturbing to Google one's own name only to see some asshat smearing you on his blog. The bigger IMFDB grows, and I hope that it grows HUGE, the more google hits will link to the site. I just stay anonymous because I don't want yet another place where morons can figure out who I am (Believe me, YOU guys (the most trusted posters on the site) will probably get that info BEFORE the public, which is fine by me). Also anyone who knows all the armorers and looks at what I say, can easily figure my identity, which again is okay, but I'm already fighting with a particular idiot who is intent on sliming me and my rep on the net, and I dont' want to drag IMFDB into it. Anyway, that's a more long winded explanation. I really appreciate the thought behind the MoviePropMaster Page, but frankly I don't need the credit. You guys give me all the credit I need with your comments on the pics and pages! :) I don't think that the site benefits all that much from the page right now. Just because at this time I'm staying very low key. :) Hope this is understandable. Thanks again. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:49, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

==Model 29==
Well Charon had a pretty good pic on the Dirty Harry pages. The only thing is that I assumed that these were jacked photos. Question: We discussed this before, but it's okay to remove nice pics but ones that are 'jacked from Google' with new original photos as long as the gun is the same make model and configuration? Right? I don't want contributors getting pissed at me for replacing their posted images, even though they themselves just uploaded it from Google. From your conversations with Alienqueen, I assume that the mods agree, replacing all the "net" photos with original IMFDB pics is the standard action, and contributors will have to realize that they didn't 'own' the copyright to the net pics to begin with.

==Wiki==
So what do you think of that offer? He wrote a very gracious message and was professional enough to make a formal request. I'm on the fence. I take my pics with the intent of having them only on IMFDB. I do have some friends (fellow armorers OR collectors) who have volunteered the pristine examples for photography (since a lot of the movie guns are beat up), that I've allowed to use for their own uses. Ironwood Designs, for example, did the replacement wood on one of the yugoslavian RPKs (that I haven't uploaded yet), and they asked to use that pic for their website, and I gave them permission, since they fixed the broken wood with an exact replica of the original Yugoslavian wood. There are a few people with websites I've given some specific image permission to , but all of these people have helped in the production of the photos in one way or another. So they're different.

Please give me your thoughts. I am not so keen on others using the pics I shot for IMFDB, at least until I can create a watermarked version of the image, ("courtesy of IMFDB", that sort of thing) so people know that the pic was one of the ones from here. I've been watching the web and are actively looking for websites that might pirate these pics. I don't take kindly to people who jack MY pics, so I am ready to email offenders with 'cease and desist' orders ;) Let me know what you think regarding the polite request by the English wiki guy to use my gun images. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

==IMFDB hypocritical? Nah==
I would not clamp down as an IMFDB mod, but as the original photographer. I own the copyright of my own photos and have every right to demand that others not pirate my work. I granted IMFDB the rights (in writing on my user page BTW) to use my photos, I know that anyone who jacks the images will hear from me, the copyright holder. As far as jacking images, (a) I only uploaded some images when there was no image and we needed a place holder. I've been replacing these with images I've shot myself, there are almost none left. If the original copyright holder contacts me (or the site) ... that image will be removed immediately (I assume you all agree with me). I would immediately remove any other person's pics if asked. I just worry that others will not comply if I ask for a removal of my own stuff. I can't control the actions of the other IMFDB contributors, but I shot these images '''FOR''' IMFDB, so I am quite protective of my intellectual and artistic property.

Also, as indicated by the kind and professional email from that English Wiki guy, I see that others have noticed the image quality of IMFDB gun pics :) I'm just working towards the day when persons start looking here for images of guns, rather than those other gun sites! hahaha. (despite the fact that they have much more technical and historical data on the actual guns). Also this is the only place I can post images of the 'faux' or 'conversion' guns that we use in the biz. No real firearms page would be interested in a fake SR9 or a fake MP5 (made from an HK94) or Star handguns standing in for 1911s, etc. etc. Anyway, I say 'bring em on' if anyone complains. I'm working my tail off to replace all the pics with images that have been granted usage rights to IMFDB (by me). :) Can't wait until we have all the jacked gun pics replaced on the site. ;) Let me know what you think. best regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:19, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

==The Crow==
The gun is a chopped Muzzelite bullpup stock that was custom modified to take a shotgun. Mossberg had a Bullpup stock gun (and kit available in the 1980s) but upon closer examination the gun that Ernie Hudson is holding is a Muzzelite for sure.

Also your comments on the accident that killed brandon lee are inaccurate. Believe me, I've been correcting people for YEARS. the gun that shot Brandon Lee was a snub nose Charter Arms .44 bulldog, not the Model 29 seen in the movie. The reason why no one saw it in the movie is because it is from a deleted scene where Funboy ([[Michael Massee]]) shoots Draven in front of an all night convenience store. the footage from that entire scene was later destroyed after the investigation. the scene with the .44 bulldog will NEVER be seen by the general public.

Also the gun armorer had nothing to do with the accident. The armorer was wrapped (i.e. sent home) at midnight that night and the gun was locked up in the props trailer (which is a semi truck trailer on most major motion picture gigs that are being shot on location). However, the director (or 2nd unit director) decided to try to film the scene where Massee shoots lee at 4:30 am, well after the weapons master had been 'wrapped' for the day. As is common when dealing with idiot NON gun ownng people, someone loaded the dummy rounds in first (and then dry fired it). The dummy rounds were live (full metal jacket) rounds purchased from a local gun store, and then the rounds were removed with a bullet hammer and all the powder inside was dumped out (the bullet reseated with a reloading press), but the primers remained live, since the director wanted shots of the undented primers. Well, as you know, when you dry fire a revolver with a dummy round (with live primer) the primer explosion is enough to drive the bullet about an inch into the barrel. Someone handed the gun back to the prop handler (who was NOT the gun handler) and said something to the effect of 'this gun is broken'. When another untrained prop handler unloaded the revolver, she did not notice that one of the "dummy rounds" was missing it's bullet head. Again, chain of custody of the handgun was broken yet another time, and no one on the set was trained enough to CHECK the barrel for obstructions, like they should have. They decided to film the scene WITHOUT the gun wrangler (which was fucking stupid since obviously none of these retards knew anything about guns, but this mentality is COMMON in the industry. Non gun owners are the biggest fuckups with guns... as you've heard me bitch about time and time again.

Anyway, come time to film (about 4:00 AM, four hours when they sent the gun handler home because they told him the were DONE filming any firearms scenes) they loaded a full powered .44 bulldog blank in the gun (with that bullet lodged into the barrel) and it obviously had enough force to expel out the round. What is tragic is that Michael massee wasn't aiming directly at Lee, however, the deformation of the round, plus the fact that it was already 'crooked' in the barrel created a non stable bullet flight. It 'arched' on a weird spin pattern and literally curved it's trajectory into Lee. The bullet entered his lower intestines, and because it was spinning in a weird way, tore all the way up his spinal cord (shattering the spinal cord into splinters) all the way up to the base of his neck. Even if he was taken to an E.R. within seconds, the damage was so severe that he would have died regardless of who or what medical facilities were treating him. What is chilling is that the footage shows the scene continuing as if nothing is wrong and the director calling cut, with set assistants walking up and checking on Lee to see why he is being 'so slow to get up'. It was pretty gruesome.

I wonder what it would have been like to be the gun wrangler getting to set the next day, only to discover that the other props people (who knew nothing about guns) had managed to kill the star with their stupidity. BTW, I knew an actor who was roommates with Michael Massee (Funboy). Massee was so traumatized by the incident that he took a year hiatus and hiked across the Canadian wilderness to 'clear his head'. The entire incident was tragic, but unfortunately, a lot of urban myths are posted on the internet about it. The longer time passes, the more inaccurate accounts I read on the net about the incident. Hope this helps. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:43, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

==Check it out==
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-104 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==FG 42==
damn, that new model looks pristine! Almost weird looking to see one like that. Mine is all beat up (and over 60 years old!) Should I replace my weird looking pic with one of those new ones?(that is if someone I know gets one, I myself aren't interested in the new replica live fire model, but I know other guys who will spend whatever it costs to get one) ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

== John Woo qoute ==

I don't think this line is in the "qoutes" section of the main page, but I like it to be placed in. "Easy to pick up, hard to put down". Obviously refering to guns and ammo. It's a line from the John Woo movie "The Killer" said by Joe, Chow Yun Fat's character

I don't know how to put this qoute into the qoute section of the main page, but do you?

==MAC pics==
I'm more proud of the MAC-11 (380). Now that page has ALL MPM2008 pics! woo hoo! These are the best pics of these guns on the net so far. Did you see the SIG 550? Again, I think it's the best image of that gun on the entire web as well. I had to build up the MAC-11 since the example was in pieces due to an internal part breaking and no one bothered to reassemble it with replacement parts. I'm on the fence about giving the M-11 it's own page. It is technically derived from the original MAC-11 blueprints, but it was elongated so that the bolt carrier could traverse a longer distance in order to properly cycle the more powerful 9x19mm round. And people always mix it up with the other two guns, so I think that putting them together will help "gun ignorant" people understand that these are all distinct guns and not to mix them up. Oh and BTW, the Cobray M11 9mm magazines don't fit in the Ingram MAC-10/9 9mm guns and vice versa. Completely different designs. Just a trivia note.

I have to take a short break to actually do paid "work" (what's that?) and get back to IMFDB later. I am trying to get Thompson pics, but all our Thompsons are in weird configurations. I've already shot an M1928 that was in the Class III vault, and it' rear sight is an M1A1 (WTF?)

Did you see the custom AMD-65 I made for the Rambo page? I think i'll continue building up the configurations as seen in the movies. Heck I got the parts in shop anyway and some of the guns may have been in the film. But usually the ones I fix up are too nice to have been in some of those movies (they were dropped ALOT). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

==The Dark side of movie guns==
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:33, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:BeatType56.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Heck at least it fireable....]]

:I don't think I've ever seen any AK variant beat up that badly, even ones confiscated in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you know those guns get the tar beat out of them... [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 09:13, 23 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

::That's nothing. try having a moron ACTOR touch your AK for a few days. These (liberal anti gun moron actors) manage to destroy weapons all the time. And they claim they don't "like" guns, and yet they mess around with them, drop them, etc. It's gotten so bad that I have a pow wow with the director & producers a lot BEFORE filming starts and tell them, they had better let me stop "unsafe behavior" (meaning I can yell at and confiscate weapons from the "Stars" on sight). Dropping a gun on concrete is not only rude and damages the gun, it can create cracks or breaks or other unseen damage that can create a catastrophic malfunction. Not that likely given the quality of most battlefield or high end guns, but it's the reasoning I use to whip the director & producer into line. The biggest 'threat' i've ever made on set, when no one backed me up when I was trying to stop reckless gun behavior, was to threaten to (a) immediately quit, (b) pack up all the guns & blanks, (c) leave .... and notify their Insurance agency that the armorer left the set due to unsafe weapons and pyrotechnical practices. Boom! That will either get their policy canceled immediately (it's against union rules to work on a set with out com/liability insurance) or get insurance investigators to visit the set immediately. That bluff has never been called! hahahaha. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

==Uncommon valor==
:''It's odd because I had no clue that the Type 56 was imported to the U.S. back when Uncommon Valor was filmed (82-83). I remember hearing it wasn't until 1984 that they reached these shores. ''
well didn't you wonder where all those Chinese AKs came from during the scenes filmed in Hawaii? LOL! Most of the battle scenes were filmed on the Island of Kauai. Many of the locations were the same Hawaiian locations as Jurassic Park. And I noticed how 'well fed' (i.e. hefty) the local extras were when they were playing Laotian People's Army regulars. Alot of the extras were Chinese and Japanese American residents of Hawaii. This particular gun was an amnestied pre 1968 bring back full auto original Type 56, that was registered per the rules of NFA 34 and GCA 68. There were a LOT of bring backs during the war, and many registered full autos found their way into the chains of commerce between full auto weapons owners. MPM

== ''The Kill Point'' ==

Thanks a lot for screencapping ''[[The Kill Point]]''. I originally made the page when the series first aired on Spike TV last year, but haven't found anywhere that sells in on DVD or any place on the net with good-quality video. I really appreciate your help with this article, and look forward to seeing it completed. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 09:12, 23 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==GoldenEye discussion==
I moved the golden eye AK discussion to that page's discussion page, you know, the guys get all weirded out by the 'non-encylopedic tone' of discussions on the movie pages. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== ''Jericho'' ==

It may take me a while to do the caps for this thing as they are buried somewhere in the massive pile of burned discs I have (yes, I know, naughty naughty) but there are a few suggestions I can offer you:

(1) M-14/M1A - seen when Hawkins shows Jake his hidden stockpile of weapons prior to New Bern's attack

(2) MAC-10 - used by some of Jonah Prowse's henchmen during the attack on the New Bern mortar sights

(3) AK-47 - used several times in the series by, among others, the Sherrif's deputies in New Bern and Jonah Prowse.

(4) Heckler&Koch UMP - seen in the hands of a U.S. Marine (based on the cammo pattern) at Camp Liberty

(5) Barret M82A1 - seen mounted on the cab of a deuce and a half at Camp Liberty

(6) M60 - used by a citizen of New Bern during the initial firefight with Jericho

(7) Glock 18 - used by Ravenwood mercs, especially Goetz, to kill Sarah - easily identified by the extended magazine

Yeah...forgot to log in here so I had to log back in in order to "claim credit"!!! Sorry dude.

Check the changes/additions I have made and edit them at your will dude!!! Semper Fidelis!!!

You're very welcome. As far as the Glocks go I thought they might be small too but I am sure I heard burst fire from them in the particular episode.
[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 19:17, 26 November 2008

That about wraps up my contributions for this one. If you have any further questions just drop me a note. Via Con Dios.

==Happy Thanksgiving==
Hope you're eating well :) regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:26, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==U.S. Marshals snaps==
I have U.S. Marshals on DVD, would you like me to replace your AVI shots with my DVD shot sometime? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 07:04, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==You're very welcome==
Yes, the lack of a good USAS 12 shotgun really bugged me. Also the inaccurate history of the gun (as seen on many internet sites) also bugged me. I was there and in the middle of all that political BS in the early 1990s and I remember everything, since it affected me directly. As for the new photos ... That's why I do it! hahahahah. I think IMFDB has the best USAS-12 photo on the net right now ;) I hope you also liked the new Makarov pic (I hated the old one), and the new Glock 17L. Also I 'think' we have the only good shots of the HK 512 autoshotgun on the net as well. Hope you had a great thanksgiving. I'm still working on the pics, but I've taken well over 200 custom gun photographs so far. And it looks like I have a long way to go.

Have you seen the pics of guns at Securityarms.org? Ugh! Poor guys. They have the biggest library of gun pics on the planet so far, but their quality is so bad (and lots of their guns are in really WEIRD configurations).

I screwed up on the XM177-E2 pic (I'm so mad at myself). I put the A1 style upper on an SP1 lower which is wrong. I had the SP1 lower all ready for the original XM17 pic and in a state of confusion, I assembled the E2 upper to the wrong lower. Also I have an original XM177 barreled upper ... and I can't FIND IT! Argh! It's somewhere in the piles and piles and piles of guns and gun parts. I just can't remember where I put it.

Also I'm having a hard time photographing Chrome nickel guns. I tried to photograph a nickel plated Colt Highwaypatrolman and a Colt Single Action Army (with ivory grips), but these guns are nearly 'mirror' finish and the pics look like crap. It's hard to light something that is so shiny and reflective. I'm going to get a special product soft box (the kind they use to photograph silver, platinum and gold jewelry) so that I don't see my own reflection in the item.

I'm trying to get some of the items which I don't have, but it's tough. Thanks for the compliments on Ultraviolet. There's just so much work to do on the site.

Question, how do you guys see how many views an image or page has? Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:25, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail==
Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. '''It's a bottle with gasoline in it.''' It's not '''manufactured or crafted''', like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.

Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.

Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.

Since the page was made and effort was put into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== [[Full Metal Panic]] ==

What do you think of what I've done recently with this page?

==Do these help?==
I was tempted to overwrite the existing pics with these. Let me know if you think I should. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:38, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:M1921Thompson.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1921 Thompson]]
[[Image:M1928.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1928 "OverStamped" Auto Ordnance Thompson (this one is a real beat up one)]]
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Military contract Thompson with Stick magazine and simplified Rear sight]]
[[Image:M1928A1Drum.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 with a Drum magazine]]
(edit: Just added this M1928A1 with a drum. I will probably over write the existing gun pics)

==WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?==
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.

The page on IMDFB.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi

Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode)
http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf

Your thoughts are appreciated.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

::EDIT: I think we should adopt the same rule as IMDB. Or actually, if the title is nowhere to be found on IMDB, that means it is not a recognized title that has been released to the general public, thus it will NOT appear on IMFDB. Members can appeal these decision by posting an IMDB link. I think that's the only was to keep these 'amateur films' (no matter how cool or talented they are), from taking over the Site. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

==The much needed FAQ or RULES for the site==
Hope we get that FAQ (actually it should be RULES for the site) done quick. I've noticed young foreign members who are posting bootleg images (the danger is from foreign members in Asia and Eastern Europe). I work in the movie biz and that's a SUREFIRE way to get the studio lawyers laser beam aimed right at US. We should prohibit screencaps from films which have NOT been released yet, immediately. The '''exception''' are those images which are taken from publicly disseminated marketing images (like production stills, or marketing images that have already been released to the public) or Screengrabs from already released trailers (like I did for Body of Lies, Defiance, and Valkyrie). These images are from public released materials, like high def trailers, and thus are not taken from a bootleg copy of the movie. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

: Kin93 is a young user from Hong Kong. 93 refers to 1993, the year he was born, which makes him 15. He may not realize that it's just not Kosher to put images from DVDs which 'may' be available in the notorious bootleg market of CHINA, but is not acceptable and illegal here in the U.S. I am going to give him a chance to respond. It may be some other film that he has mis-titled. But if we can determine definitely that these are screengrabs from the 2009 release film Tunnel Rats, then they should be deleted, with apologies sent to the OP, with a gentle warning that we don't tolerate Bootleg images. I will give him some time to let me know what it is what I think it is. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:10, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Re: 15 yr olds. I don't want to sound like I am bashing 15 yr olds. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] is an exception. For one, he is far more mature, literate, informed and world wise than 99.99% of 15 yr olds in general. But he is the rare exception. A lot of 'kids' mean well, but need to have it explained to them what is or is not appropriate. Actually MOST of the young adults who post on THIS site are literate, reasoned and mature, far more than their peers who post on other sites. Perhaps it says something about the TYPE of person who has interest in these sort of things. Anyway, I will still watch the new members carefully..... (BTW: It just hit me, I'm as OLD as most of the Admins' DADS .... but I'm probably more fun :) hahahaha). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:28, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

::I do agree with the fact we should prohibit and make sure people understand that we have to understand the fact that we can't post images of movies unreleased on DVD no matter how high quality they might be as some I've found. And Gunmaster, you're 15, so I don't think you would bash your own age group. I don't remember what it was like being that age. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer.

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== I hesitated ==

I hesistated as well when I looked at my Pineapple express page because I actually did real work to screencap it, even though it was from a pretty good quality bootleg, but that doesn't excuse the fact I used bootlegged images. It cheapens the quality of this site if we do that. That's why when I get images for TV series, I try to get the highest quality as possible. I didn't hesitated in deleting the images from Tunnel Rat even if it isn't my work and someone else's, but when I did that, I deleted the images from Pineapple Express. It needs to be done. Which is why someone needs to tell this guy who's so much of a fan of flash animation to stop putting stuff like that on this site. It doesn't deserve to be here. Anime deserves to be here, the kind of anime where you can see who detail they did on their guns, not this cheapo internet flash thing you can find anywhere from Newgrounds. Flash animation crosses a line and insults this site. It must not be allowed to be here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== DVD rips ==

Even dvd rips have their limits. You can really tell from the offical stuff and something someone ripped off a DVD. It's better to just rent it from official sources. And do you think we overdid it with Don and used him as an example like that. I mean, this is a free form wiki like site. Odds are there will be others who won't read rules and ignore and we have to start this all over again.

[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:43, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== We got another one ==

I just found another one. It's called Madness. Yeah how approperate. Putting flash animation here is madness. Cause this is IMFDB.

[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Hard work ==

And a very nice work, your Hard Target is. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:26, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

:Good guess. We wear the woodland and desert DPM half and half. You think wearing desert in the middle of winter isn't smart, but that color blends really good in the snow and tree. The guy who founded the team's British. Born in Singapore, raised in England and former paratrooper. I think after college here, he's going back for another tour. The guy's kinda hardcore about what guns we arm ourselves with. We don't go for anything that the British or SAS hasn't used. It keeps our weapon uniformed and easy to change out parts and magazines. Also the reason other than ego I think for the British camo is because everyone in the US obviously goes for the typical kinds of camo and we've yet to encounter a team that has a similiar kit like us. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

:Yes that is the reason how I came across Ultimate Force. It is an awesome show, but had a run of bad luck when it comes to casting and renewals. It reminded me of the show The Unit, which for all intents and purposes is the US equivalent to Ultimate Force, but the difference is that it had more episodes, but why I don't like about The Unit which was half the show is all about the wives and family drama. Ultimate Force showed almost none of that and more action. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

==You psychic? hahaha==
I put up a pic and you comment on it within 90 seconds... hahaha First the Type 84 and now this. Is there an alarm on your computer whenever I post a gun pic? :) Thanks for the compliments. I wish I had a better pic of the Valmet. I was counting on getting shots of Syd Stembridge's guns, but he sold all of his Valmets to Long Mountain Outfitters. I don't think I know of anyone who has the most important variant, the M78/83 (the version with the black synthetic thumbhole stock). I have a broken M78 (and I mean ready for the scrap pile) with a fake thumbhole stock that was carved out of plywood!!!!! Ugh! Boy it looks bad. But I had the semi auto only M78 gun as a stunt weapon since the receiver was previously crushed slightly inward by the previous owner and it's not worth it to repair the fractures in the sides.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==Stripes page==
So I finally did a Stripes page. Just got sick of having no page for that movie. :) .[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==Water marks==
I am seriously considering some sort of copyright listing (or at least some clear wording at the comments section) of each custom gun pic I photograph. I suppose I should be wary of pirates just lifting the custom content clear out of the blue. After, a lot of IMFDB's gun pics are someone else's content. My goal is to replace all of IMFDB's gun pics with original images that clearly belong to IMFDB so there is no copyright issue with anyone else..[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==There you go again===
hahahaha. I post a pic, and less than 90 seconds later, I get a comment from you! You have Jedi mind powers?!? :) hahahaha. How do you know when I've posted a pic? :) re: the gun, I had it in one of my PICS folders that I haven't looked at since August. That folder has pics I scored from armorer buddies and I remember someone mentioning that the rack I was poking around had the guns from Air Force One. Since I wasn't near any AKs or pistols, I just remember thinking, oh, "these must be the MP5s from the flick". But then a lot of people I know make off the cuff remarks and then don't remember making them at all later, so who knows? Again that was six months ago, and I had since forgotten about the whole affair until I ran across this image. I could ask again, but Remember, I sometimes annoy my peers when I bug them about photographing specific movie guns. So I must tread lightly. ;) I 'believe' they are from AFO but I wouldn't swear an oath on it. :) Hope that doesn't ruin the image for you. ;) hahahaha.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:51, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008 images]]==
I found [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 9mm [[Heckler & Koch UMP|UMP]] image on [[http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg16-e.htm]] but if I have permission to upload my image on the [[Heckler & Koch UMP|UMP]] page I think it would make the [[Heckler & Koch UMP|UMP]] page much better. I just uploaded a USC image on the [[Heckler & Koch UMP|UMP]] page and it already looks good.

==I guess it was inevitable==
Getting more and more requests for pics or .... discovering that people are just jacking the images in general. I found a local gun store who jacked some of my images for their inventory page. They had the gall to actually put their own copyright on the image. Anyway I was dealing with that, but I guess it's inevitable. I've electronically tagged the images now with copyright info. Regardless of what they do to the pic, certain software can positively ID it as mine. Professional photographers and professional artists are starting to really police the net when it comes to people stealing their stuff. Some kid posting the pic on his "guns I like " page is innocuous. Some business owner posting the images in his catalogue and then marking them as his copyright is actionable. What makes it a little harder is that IMFDB has jacked it's own images from others. I see new members lifting pics (and sometimes text) whole from other sites, which is irritating since some of them still jack images for guns we already have LEGAL pics of. Just so you know, :) I will try to keep doing what I am doing until the entire site has exclusive content and we won't have to 'jack' anyone else's images. I know that's impossible, but I will try to get as close as I can.

I also have had some other folks polite enough to request usage rights (which is good nettiquette and shows that at least they are honest), but I'm still not willing at this point to give anyone permission outside of IMFDB. Hope you understand my thinking and if you have any advice please let me know.

As far as the Wiki guy. I posted the flip side of the gun he wanted. What do you think? I wanted some input before I let him have this one. Is the courtesy notice too much?
[[Image:CetmeAmeliIMFDBVer2.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Cetme Ameli - Courtesy of IMFDB.org - 5.56mm]]

==New Pics==
I replaced the USP 45 with an exclusive pic... ;)
[[Image:HK-USP.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|HK USP - .45acp]]
Check out this pic. FNC sporter (the semi auto rifle imported into the U.S. all throughout the 1980s and the most common weapon in movie armories).
[[Image:FNC REM Sporter.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|FNC Sporter - 5.56mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:33, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

==Other forums==
: ''"I know people have been talking about IMFDB and its images on quite a few gun forums, but I had no clue anybody would have the audacity to take your images and claim them as their own!"''
Do you know of any gun forums that discuss IMFDB in regards to our photos? I've been checking to see if we created any sort of buzz for months and I've found nothing. If you would be so kind, I would really appreciate some links to some of these forums. Are we being bashed or praised. ;) You have piqued my curiosity. I know you try to promote the site but I sure would like to see the general perception from others in other forums. Thanks and best regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:12, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

==''The Park is Mine'' Machine Gun==

I'm pretty certain it's an [[MG42]] machine gun Mitch is using at the climax of ''[[The Park is Mine]]''. The rounds in the spare ammo belt he's carrying look too long to be 7.62x51mm NATO rounds as used by the [[MG42#MG3|MG3]] (which are shorter in comparison to the 7.92x57mm Mauser cartridge). Plus as pointed out by MPM2008, an MG42 would make more sense in the context of the film. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 13:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

==Got it, finally :)==
[[Image:AKMSPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS Custom - 7.62x39mm]]
Now I will be updating with this pic. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:11, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

==auto 9==
glad you liked the new pic. I'm trying now to get more specific movie guns, rather than classic examples of the gun types. That particular 93R was a rebuild from a damaged one that exploded back in the early 1990s. I have no idea where the Robo parts came from. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:27, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Un-released movies ==

Let us say I were to have access to a film which had not been released into theatres yet. Let us further say there were firearms in the film. Would it be frowned upon if I were to create a page for the movie?
[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:48, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Duplicate Page ==

An anonymous user created a duplicate page of the HK 416 just a few minutes ago. I will leave you and the other admins to deal with it, but I just wanted to let you know. [[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]] 22:09, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page

2009-01-05T21:41:17Z

TheDon152: /* How do i "screencap" a movie? */

== Screencap Legality ==
How do you know whether uploading screencaps violates copyright or not?
: Pretty sure it is okay because no one has hunted us down to sue us, but anyway, as long as you don't claim it is your work and credit only yourself, you should be okay. -GM
:: One thing I would advise you to do is not upload screenshots from pirated copies of movies that haven't been released yet on DVD and Blu Ray. I imagine that if someone working for one of the studios saw that, they would be very upset. They'll know the shots came from a bootleg if the movie isn't out on DVD yet, and they might just throw the book at us. Avoid this at all costs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== Forum ==

Are we ever going to get the forums back up?

No, really, I miss the forums so much. It'd be nice to have the chance to talk to each other again, especially since we have so many new and very productive users who can make good use of it.

== Merging articles ==

Is it possible to merge an article with a pre-existing article? Every time I try to do this with particular types of guns, I get an error message that says, "A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name." For instance, if I wanted to move the HK91 article under the H&K G3 article (since the HK91 is a G3 variant, I don't think it needs its own page), I can't do this.

:Can someone please answer my question?

::Please?

::To merge an article, take the article, copy all the information and put it on the new page in the format you wish to make. You can also do this if you wish to change the name of a page. Take the page that you copied everything from and delete everything on that page. Write on that page this exactly(minus quotes):
"#REDIRECT (then use double [ ] brackets) and write the name of the page EXACTLY AS IT IS. Screw up the name and it'll redirect no where.
:Example
# "#Redirect [[[[M16 rifle series]]]]"
Note:How I made it look finished is what it should look like. Not what it looks like when in the editing of the page. Hope I helped. -[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== The IMFDB Essentials ==

Is there any way to remove this feature at the top of the page, or at least present it in a format that is less of a hog on system resources? I find that it slows things down for me an awful lot.

== Let there be backups! ==

Ok, I've installed ruby on our dedicated server, signed up for Amazon's s3 storage service, and customized a ruby backup script to automatically backup the database and all image files at 4am pst and upload them to our s3 folder. The process really bogs down the box for a good 10 minutes, so I'm thinking once every 24 hours is fine, but I may go to once every 12 hours eventually... Thanks for putting up with the ups and downs during this time of transition.

Best,
Chris
[[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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:This is truly ridiculous...how could such idiocy possibly occur? I lost not only my account, but all of the work I did. I put in so much time to improve this site and work on pages, only to see all my work lost by incompetence. Clearly, you people are not responsible enough to properly back things up, so I can no longer trust you with my contributions. I will no longer be contributing to this site.

== My sincerest apologies ==

Your feelings are completely warranted, and I can only offer my deepest apologies. I will be posting our new backup procedures and details on the dedicated servers I am in the process of purchasing and bringing live shortly. You trusted me with your work and I let you down, for this I am truly sorry. All I can do is assure you that we have learned from our mistakes and an event such as this will never happen again. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 10:37, 14 March 2008 (PDT)

Welcome to our new server! This is the first of many steps I am taking to ensure we never lose data again. The site used to be hosted on shared hosting overseas - we now have a dedicated server housed in a colocation in San Jose, CA. Dedicated servers don't come cheap, but your time, effort, and contributions are now my number one priority.

I'm still transferring the images that have been uploaded over the last couple days, don't worry they're not lost!

Very Bad Things have happened. Our main server went down as well as our secondary server which was housing the daily backups. The last backup file we were able to successfully access was from December 21, 2007. I am heartbroken to say we have lost the last 10 weeks worth of edits - I don't know what to say to all the users except that I am incredibly saddened by the loss of all of our efforts and that I will take all steps in my power to '''make sure this never happens again'''. Now - all of your work from the last 10 weeks is not lost! If you know a page you worked on is missing go to google and search imfdb.org along with the name of the page you want back, for example "imfdb.org Terminator 2" and you will most likely find google still has a cached copy! Click on the "cached" link in the bottom of the listing and you'll be able to copy the text! Now, the screenshots for the last 10 weeks are completely gone - and I am going to do my absolute best to create new screenshots for as many pages as is humanly possible. I'm still uploading screenshots from the backup so you'll notice a lot of broken images for the time being.

Also, all users who have joined in the last 10 weeks have lost their accounts - please sign up again! And if you know a page you created or worked on is gone please search for it in google and recreate the page with the cached text.

If you don't want to go to all that trouble, just leave a note on my talk page with the page that is missing and I'll do all the legwork and get new screenshots!

'''Also - I'm working my a** off downloading as many pages still in the google cache as possible - you'll start seeing those show up later tonight.
'''

I'm so sorry guys - I'm going to make this right. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 18:51, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

==The McUzi==

It wasn’t until I read the ‘Raw Deal’ article on the “fake Uzi” that I realized Hollywood was dressing MAC-10s up as Uzis.

In ‘The Dog of War’ the mercenaries are supposed to be using Uzis. However some are using MAC-10s and some are using MACs dressed up as Uzis. The actors seem to change weapons randomly. For example, as the climactic battle begins Tom Berenger is using a real Uzi and Christopher Walken is using a silenced Uzi. However in the final minutes both are using McUzis. This is made painfully clear as Walken holds the gun to his face when reloading.

There are real MAC Uzi hybrids. These are civilian versions of the Uzi with a .45 barrel, bolt and a MAC-10 magazine well to accept the universal Grease Gun magazines.

The Hollywood guns are merely MACs with Uzi parts added on.

I would see to real reason to make a gun like this accept that the filmmakers wanted to use Uzis but ran out. Much like ‘Planet of the Apes’ when the studio ran out of ape costumes they simply used paper mask. If you look closely at the audience of Heston’s mock trial.

I captured some great stills to add to ‘The Dogs of War’ article.````

== Does anyone knows? ==

Why the Call of duty:world at war page is broken? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 17:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I figured it out - it was the special character at the end of Gunto, it's not supported under the current database config, I'll work on that... [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 01:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== moved from main page ==

We're on the new server and still working the bugs out - email me at cserrano@gmail.com if you're having any issues editing or logging in. The backup file is from early September 30, so most of yesterdays edits are missing - sorry GunMaster45 I'm working on it! [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 17:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC) ''GunMaster45 I've recovered the latest version of the [[Street Kings]] page - anything else we're missing?'' [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 21:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
: I had the R9 pistol which I had uploaed today but I redid it. Will the pictures remain fuzzy and pixelated or is that just temporary? (Hopefully) -GM

If you find something missing from the old server you can still access it here 66.79.167.132/~imfdb/index.php?title=Main_Page [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 20:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:I had just uploaded some pics of the AR18 from Terminator and the Street Sweeper from Total Recall. Can you get them back, or should I upload them again? Also, MPM2008 uploaded some new gun pics, and I don't think he'll appreciate their loss.

== How do i "screencap" a movie? ==

How do i screencap a movie?: [[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 12:41, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

:That is a vague question, sir. Do you mean, how do you take screenshots of guns in movies, or do you just mean how do you upload them onto IMFDB?

:I mean taking screenshots.: 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 13:44, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

::Ah, OK then. We all have our own methods of doing so. Personally, I play my DVDs using VLC Media Player, which has a Snapshot feature which lets you take screenshots when paused, and then it saves them automatically as JPEGs or PNGs to a designated folder of your choosing. However, that's ONLY when I'm screencapping movies I own on DVD. I also rent and download movies using iTunes which I might screencap for IMFDB pages, and I can't play those with VLC. In those cases, I just hit the "Print Screen" key, paste the image into MSPaint, and then crop away the iTunes browser so that only the movie image remains. Then I save them to my HD in a designated folder. Once I've acquired enough screenshots for a movie, I use "Upload file" to put them on IMFDB so that I can use them for pages I edit. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::First and most importantly, you need a DVD drive in your computer to watch the movie. I watch mine on Windows WinDVD system, which has a built in "screencap" button by pressing P, which saves them all in WinDVD file. I take those files from the folder, which are all saved under BMPs and re-save them as JPGs using Corel Paintshop. If they are widescreen, I use crop to cut them out. I then upload them to the site and post them. Now that I've read MT2008's method for iTunes, I can screencap [[Shoot 'Em Up]] which wasn't compatable with my WinDVD system, but worked on my other DVD player which had no screencap button. Hooray! -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]

And also you can use the program I use which is CyberLink PowerDVD which also has a built in Screenshot button. First the screenshots start out as BMPs, but then I use Irfan View to save them as JPGs to a different folder. And if they are widescreen, I use Windows Photo Gallery to crop off the black bars. You should also check out Gunmaster's and MT2008's methods because they might be better.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

What about taking pictures on a digital camera and uploading them to your PC? Does anyone know if it works?[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]] 21:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

==Uzi PAge==
I was looking through the pages and the [[Uzi]] page wasn't working last time I checked. -GM

== How do i screencap from a television? ==

Like if i wanted to screencap some video games? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

:You probably need some high tech gizmo. Usually people who screencap TV use DVR and record TV on DVD, then upload them on the computer. I've never done it but it may work for VGs. -GM45

::Personally, I'd recommend maybe trying an emulator to play said game on your computer (assuming your PC is fast enough to handle the software and game). I've been thinking of redoing the ''[[Goldeneye 007]]'' page for a while using Project64 (which has a screencap feature), because I can play that game at high resolution even on my laptop.

== The ''[[Kentucky Flintlock Rifle]]'' page. ==

The page is a mess. 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 18:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

: Not anymore, I fixed it. -GM

::Excellent. BTW, LMO has pics of the one from ''[[The Patriot]]''. -MT2008
: That pic looks nice but it doesn't need to be uploaded until someone screencaps the movie, and if that doesn't happen too quickly, I'll rent it and do it myself. -GM

== A forum going? ==

I don't know if there is but I'm not the first one to think that a forum for us all to chat in would be a great idea. Unless there is a section of this place that is like a forum site for us to chat with?

:We used to have one before the Great Crash months ago, but it's gone and hasn't been re-upped since. I agree it would be cool. -MT2008

==Call of Duty 4 pictures==

I've got good pictures of guns for Call of Duty 4, but i don't know how to upload them, anyone knows how to email me at r1c0ch37@gmail.com

:All you have to do is go to "Upload file" under the "Toolbox" section in the left-hand column. -MT2008

== What are those numbers? ==

to the left of the usernames on the recent changes page? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]]
: I'm a little confused what you mean but unregistered users have numbers instead of a name. -GM
:: I think he means the numbers in parenthesis, in which case, it's the number of text characters added or subtracted by that particular edit.

==Protection Log?==
Is something wrong with the site. Why are all the pics being fixed with "([edit=sysop:move=sysop])" for a protection log? I know little about that technical stuff, is someone removing the pics or are they just being protected from over-uploading crappy pics over? -GM

:They're being protected. Some asshole came in earlier today and kept trying to replace MoviePropMaster's pics with stock 'Net images, and kept doing it even after he was asked to stop. MPM's pics are our pride 'n joy...Alienqueen and I agreed not to let them get screwed with anymore. -MT2008

Yeah, that's reason why I did it. I just wish I had my ability to block users back, and then I wouldn't have had to set up protections. I told that guy not to upload over MPM2008's images and multiple times and he didn't listen.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

==Flannigan==
on the Snatch page- I know it already says that the .50 is a 357, but also another way of finding out is that .50s fire 7 rounds where as in the film Bullet tooth tony fires 8 in every mag. so it must be a 357.

Retrieved from "http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Snatch"

==Deleting old files==

As y'all can probably tell, I have been on a huge deleting spree recently. I've been getting rid of files that weren't being used for whatever reason or another. Some of them were gun images that have since been replaced by MoviePropMaster's images, others were old screencaps that have been replaced by newer ones (like all of my old ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' shots, which have since been replaced by GunMaster's), and some were those images of weird experimental guns uploaded by Cutaway that don't appear in any movie and thus have no purpose on this site.

I realize, of course, that this by itself won't relieve the strain on the servers; it's inevitable as this site grows. But it seems like a worthwhile thing to do. If anyone of the Admins are interested in helping out, please go to "Special Pages" and click on "Unused Files" (at the top). If you see something that might be worth keeping (i.e. Choi's screencaps from ''[[The Killer]]'' which haven't been put on the page yet), leave it alone, but if you see gun images that obviously have no use or screencaps that you know have been replaced...ditch 'em.

Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Good Work, MT2008. I'm sure it'll give us more server space, I'll be sure to delete some myself. One question, if we get rid of the old files, will this site load faster?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

:Beats me, but I'd have to guess...not ''noticeably'' faster. It will at least give us more space for uploading newer files. However, IMFDB is constantly growing, so it's inevitable we'll reach our limits eventually. You'd have to ask Bunni when that will be. Anyway, I'm off to the pub now. I will be back later to continue. [[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:20, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Go right ahead, you deserve a break. I'll get rid of as many as I can, I'm also seeing alot of screenshots nobody bothered to use, it makes me wonder why people upload them if they're just going to sit there for a year and gather dust. And, I'm also going to screencap [[Four Brothers]] and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]] soon, so you can look forward to seeing them completed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Fictional Firearms==
I propose that we denote pages for 'fictional' firearms with parentheses "like Non Guns" so that they are in a different grouping than real guns. GM has made pages for the fantasy weapons of Hellboy II and that made me think about custom pages for the Morita Rifle (Starship troopers) or the M590 (Space:Above and Beyond) or the Blade Runner Pistol or any of the Star Wars guns (versus other types of Sci fi weapons, these should be guns). Even though THESE fictional guns are based on real guns, they can have their own pages with links to the original weapons page. Regardless, I think that guns that aren't real should be separated, lest they confuse users. Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

:I agree. I was kinda turned off when I saw the Aliens Resurrection page. None of those guns were based off of real firearms or even guns dressed up to look like futuristic guns.

::Well I get the point of making a post about fictional guns that were built around real guns like the Morita rifle and the Pulse Rifle of Aliens, but guns that were built from scratch like the Samaritian. Would it really need a page here or is that just for the fanboys who like the gun? It's like a page for the cars used in the Punisher movie or people who like to include knives, swords, and even bows & arrow in pages, including me. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

:::The advantage is that the page can inform an interested user that the prop was NOT based on any real firearm, information that is just as important as informing 'what real firearm' was used in a prop weapon. What I don't like are obvious NON crafted weapons .... like [[Molotov cocktails]] ... wtf? That's an improvised weapon, like a sharp stick or a brick.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

::What about bows & arrows, or crossbows? I put them in my pages cause when they are used, they an impression and deserve a mention evne though they aren't firearms. Also what about knives and swords? I've seen some of those as well, but I think the knife of Rambo should stay because...well, it's the knife of Rambo. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== My gripe on Empty pages ==

I've been seeing a lot of new pages lately. The problem is that they are a blank! Nothing, not even a list of guns. What the fuck? I mean, a list of guns with no photos is ok, but just a fucking blank page? Do the people that do that expect someone else to do the work for them? They mind as well type down, "someone list the guns and put up pics for me cause I am lazy as fuck to even give a list." At least writing that down says something. Not just a blank.
:We all understand your pain Exy, we need a more efficient way to let the anonymous users know that if you make a page, you got to do the work. You gotta watch the language though, people will see it and think it is okay to do often. We all do it, but we don't want it done for no reason. Just ignore the empty pages, let them do the work eventually. If they don't, delete the pages. Half of them are movies I've never heard of anyway. Keep an eye out for [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]], I'll have them done this week. -GM
::What about that new member who create thirty or so new movie pages (some of which barely had one gun in them) and then never filled out any of those pages? I'm tempted to give people a little time, but for movies in which I question their relevance to this site, I'm also tempted to get rid of blank pages and let people create them when they're ready to populate them with information. MPM
:::Sorry for the foul launguage. I'm used to talking on forums where the F word is acceptable when you are pissed. Swears is culturally part of any language and sometimes it slips and I like to think we're all adults here that do use swears in real life when it is required. Anyway. Nice job on the [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]] pages. I've only done one movie that had ONE gun in it and it was [[The Forbidden Kingdom]] and even I did the work for it. I guess the anonymous users might also just be curious guys online and just hope we know what movie they are talking about, have it, and would take the time to tell them what guns are in it by doing the pages, but maybe on the main page, someone should put down rules of how to operate this site. I mean, I wanted to put a new qoute into the qoute section, but can't cause I don't know how to do it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

=="jacked" summaries"==
One thing that irks me is people 'cut and pasting' a plot summary completely from IMDB. This is not only against IMFDB rules, but if any mods from IMDB sees them, they can make an stink about it. I'm tempted to 'erase' any pirated summaries and put a note to the original writer ''"'''Write your own summary in your own words'''. It isn't too hard, even to re-arrange the sentences and replace some words to make it LOOK like you wrote it yourself. Just don't lift them word for word from another well known source. IMDB itself has a rule that you must write your own summaries and not lift them from other 3rd party sources. So does IMFDB.org. "'' Of course there are so many jacked firearm images here, this may be hypocritical. Which is why I'm working so hard to get IMFDB their own exclusive gun images. But it's one thing to upload an image of an impossible to get gun which no one has, versus taking the time to type a few sentences...
:I agree. I did the same thing with my [[Black Lagoon]] page when I got here, but I took it off mainly because I didn't see the need for a summary at the beginning of the page that is THAT long winded. People are here for the guns and if they want to know what the movie or show is about, they just look it up. I don't know, I stopped writing summaries for movies and shows long ago. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::I think we don´t need summaries.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I disagree with those who think "we don't need no stinkin' summaries..." For those people who have NOT seen the movie a SHORT summaries are okay. I've put them on some of my pages, usually when I have something interesting to add. I do like them when someone puts a page for a movie so obscure that I have no idea what it's about (and I don't want to have to go hunting around the web to find out, capice?) I added summaries (and others did) for those REALLY OBSCURE East german B&W movies that are on the site. Who created those pages anyway? Like anyone's going to see Black and white German language communist era DDR movies .... oh well. I can always start creating pages for the cinema of 1930s Lithuania! hahahaha. But having no summary for SOME of the pages sucks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::I found some summaries to stick out too much. Maybe a sentence or two to just give the jist, or a catch phrase like, but really I don't do summaries anymore. But I'll think about it for the anime ones simply cause some of them are harder to find or most people wouldn't have interests in them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

==Leaving your sign==
If you want people to know who you are when you write things on pages and discussion boards, put four ~ symbols after your message. Your user name and time/date are automatically shown. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 20:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

:See?

:: What he said. ;)
::: I agree wholeheartedly ...

==Problems with formatting==
Anyone notice that some of the wikipages don't show the spaces that we put between sections (so that the formats don't get all jacked up when we have photos on the right).

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Benelli_M_Series_Super_90_Shotguns

I've been trying to fix the benelli shotgun page for a bit now, and every time I add spaces, it doesn't show up in the page. Is this a glitch?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== Should we have templates? ==

Like in Wikipedia?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

It WOULD make this site a bit more...colorful than the standard white background, but if it's too much work, then it's up to whoever really runs this place.

:In all honesty, what this site needs most of all is cross-referencing of some kind, so that if somebody enters the name of a gun in one page, it shows up on another. It's a downfall of Wikis in general, and this one in particular. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

==Views==

Is there a way how I could check how many people viewed may page like on the home page the top 5 articles says how many people have viewed are page.
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 01:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page

2009-01-05T21:40:57Z

TheDon152: /* How do i "screencap" a movie? */

== Screencap Legality ==
How do you know whether uploading screencaps violates copyright or not?
: Pretty sure it is okay because no one has hunted us down to sue us, but anyway, as long as you don't claim it is your work and credit only yourself, you should be okay. -GM
:: One thing I would advise you to do is not upload screenshots from pirated copies of movies that haven't been released yet on DVD and Blu Ray. I imagine that if someone working for one of the studios saw that, they would be very upset. They'll know the shots came from a bootleg if the movie isn't out on DVD yet, and they might just throw the book at us. Avoid this at all costs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== Forum ==

Are we ever going to get the forums back up?

No, really, I miss the forums so much. It'd be nice to have the chance to talk to each other again, especially since we have so many new and very productive users who can make good use of it.

== Merging articles ==

Is it possible to merge an article with a pre-existing article? Every time I try to do this with particular types of guns, I get an error message that says, "A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name." For instance, if I wanted to move the HK91 article under the H&K G3 article (since the HK91 is a G3 variant, I don't think it needs its own page), I can't do this.

:Can someone please answer my question?

::Please?

::To merge an article, take the article, copy all the information and put it on the new page in the format you wish to make. You can also do this if you wish to change the name of a page. Take the page that you copied everything from and delete everything on that page. Write on that page this exactly(minus quotes):
"#REDIRECT (then use double [ ] brackets) and write the name of the page EXACTLY AS IT IS. Screw up the name and it'll redirect no where.
:Example
# "#Redirect [[[[M16 rifle series]]]]"
Note:How I made it look finished is what it should look like. Not what it looks like when in the editing of the page. Hope I helped. -[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== The IMFDB Essentials ==

Is there any way to remove this feature at the top of the page, or at least present it in a format that is less of a hog on system resources? I find that it slows things down for me an awful lot.

== Let there be backups! ==

Ok, I've installed ruby on our dedicated server, signed up for Amazon's s3 storage service, and customized a ruby backup script to automatically backup the database and all image files at 4am pst and upload them to our s3 folder. The process really bogs down the box for a good 10 minutes, so I'm thinking once every 24 hours is fine, but I may go to once every 12 hours eventually... Thanks for putting up with the ups and downs during this time of transition.

Best,
Chris
[[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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:This is truly ridiculous...how could such idiocy possibly occur? I lost not only my account, but all of the work I did. I put in so much time to improve this site and work on pages, only to see all my work lost by incompetence. Clearly, you people are not responsible enough to properly back things up, so I can no longer trust you with my contributions. I will no longer be contributing to this site.

== My sincerest apologies ==

Your feelings are completely warranted, and I can only offer my deepest apologies. I will be posting our new backup procedures and details on the dedicated servers I am in the process of purchasing and bringing live shortly. You trusted me with your work and I let you down, for this I am truly sorry. All I can do is assure you that we have learned from our mistakes and an event such as this will never happen again. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 10:37, 14 March 2008 (PDT)

Welcome to our new server! This is the first of many steps I am taking to ensure we never lose data again. The site used to be hosted on shared hosting overseas - we now have a dedicated server housed in a colocation in San Jose, CA. Dedicated servers don't come cheap, but your time, effort, and contributions are now my number one priority.

I'm still transferring the images that have been uploaded over the last couple days, don't worry they're not lost!

Very Bad Things have happened. Our main server went down as well as our secondary server which was housing the daily backups. The last backup file we were able to successfully access was from December 21, 2007. I am heartbroken to say we have lost the last 10 weeks worth of edits - I don't know what to say to all the users except that I am incredibly saddened by the loss of all of our efforts and that I will take all steps in my power to '''make sure this never happens again'''. Now - all of your work from the last 10 weeks is not lost! If you know a page you worked on is missing go to google and search imfdb.org along with the name of the page you want back, for example "imfdb.org Terminator 2" and you will most likely find google still has a cached copy! Click on the "cached" link in the bottom of the listing and you'll be able to copy the text! Now, the screenshots for the last 10 weeks are completely gone - and I am going to do my absolute best to create new screenshots for as many pages as is humanly possible. I'm still uploading screenshots from the backup so you'll notice a lot of broken images for the time being.

Also, all users who have joined in the last 10 weeks have lost their accounts - please sign up again! And if you know a page you created or worked on is gone please search for it in google and recreate the page with the cached text.

If you don't want to go to all that trouble, just leave a note on my talk page with the page that is missing and I'll do all the legwork and get new screenshots!

'''Also - I'm working my a** off downloading as many pages still in the google cache as possible - you'll start seeing those show up later tonight.
'''

I'm so sorry guys - I'm going to make this right. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 18:51, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

==The McUzi==

It wasn’t until I read the ‘Raw Deal’ article on the “fake Uzi” that I realized Hollywood was dressing MAC-10s up as Uzis.

In ‘The Dog of War’ the mercenaries are supposed to be using Uzis. However some are using MAC-10s and some are using MACs dressed up as Uzis. The actors seem to change weapons randomly. For example, as the climactic battle begins Tom Berenger is using a real Uzi and Christopher Walken is using a silenced Uzi. However in the final minutes both are using McUzis. This is made painfully clear as Walken holds the gun to his face when reloading.

There are real MAC Uzi hybrids. These are civilian versions of the Uzi with a .45 barrel, bolt and a MAC-10 magazine well to accept the universal Grease Gun magazines.

The Hollywood guns are merely MACs with Uzi parts added on.

I would see to real reason to make a gun like this accept that the filmmakers wanted to use Uzis but ran out. Much like ‘Planet of the Apes’ when the studio ran out of ape costumes they simply used paper mask. If you look closely at the audience of Heston’s mock trial.

I captured some great stills to add to ‘The Dogs of War’ article.````

== Does anyone knows? ==

Why the Call of duty:world at war page is broken? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 17:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I figured it out - it was the special character at the end of Gunto, it's not supported under the current database config, I'll work on that... [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 01:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== moved from main page ==

We're on the new server and still working the bugs out - email me at cserrano@gmail.com if you're having any issues editing or logging in. The backup file is from early September 30, so most of yesterdays edits are missing - sorry GunMaster45 I'm working on it! [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 17:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC) ''GunMaster45 I've recovered the latest version of the [[Street Kings]] page - anything else we're missing?'' [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 21:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
: I had the R9 pistol which I had uploaed today but I redid it. Will the pictures remain fuzzy and pixelated or is that just temporary? (Hopefully) -GM

If you find something missing from the old server you can still access it here 66.79.167.132/~imfdb/index.php?title=Main_Page [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 20:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:I had just uploaded some pics of the AR18 from Terminator and the Street Sweeper from Total Recall. Can you get them back, or should I upload them again? Also, MPM2008 uploaded some new gun pics, and I don't think he'll appreciate their loss.

== How do i "screencap" a movie? ==

How do i screencap a movie?: [[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 12:41, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

:That is a vague question, sir. Do you mean, how do you take screenshots of guns in movies, or do you just mean how do you upload them onto IMFDB?

:I mean taking screenshots.: 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 13:44, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

::Ah, OK then. We all have our own methods of doing so. Personally, I play my DVDs using VLC Media Player, which has a Snapshot feature which lets you take screenshots when paused, and then it saves them automatically as JPEGs or PNGs to a designated folder of your choosing. However, that's ONLY when I'm screencapping movies I own on DVD. I also rent and download movies using iTunes which I might screencap for IMFDB pages, and I can't play those with VLC. In those cases, I just hit the "Print Screen" key, paste the image into MSPaint, and then crop away the iTunes browser so that only the movie image remains. Then I save them to my HD in a designated folder. Once I've acquired enough screenshots for a movie, I use "Upload file" to put them on IMFDB so that I can use them for pages I edit. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::First and most importantly, you need a DVD drive in your computer to watch the movie. I watch mine on Windows WinDVD system, which has a built in "screencap" button by pressing P, which saves them all in WinDVD file. I take those files from the folder, which are all saved under BMPs and re-save them as JPGs using Corel Paintshop. If they are widescreen, I use crop to cut them out. I then upload them to the site and post them. Now that I've read MT2008's method for iTunes, I can screencap [[Shoot 'Em Up]] which wasn't compatable with my WinDVD system, but worked on my other DVD player which had no screencap button. Hooray! -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]

And also you can use the program I use which is CyberLink PowerDVD which also has a built in Screenshot button. First the screenshots start out as BMPs, but then I use Irfan View to save them as JPGs to a different folder. And if they are widescreen, I use Windows Photo Gallery to crop off the black bars. You should also check out Gunmaster's and MT2008's methods because they might be better.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

What about taking pictures on a digital camera and uploading them to your PC? Does anyone know if it works?````

==Uzi PAge==
I was looking through the pages and the [[Uzi]] page wasn't working last time I checked. -GM

== How do i screencap from a television? ==

Like if i wanted to screencap some video games? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

:You probably need some high tech gizmo. Usually people who screencap TV use DVR and record TV on DVD, then upload them on the computer. I've never done it but it may work for VGs. -GM45

::Personally, I'd recommend maybe trying an emulator to play said game on your computer (assuming your PC is fast enough to handle the software and game). I've been thinking of redoing the ''[[Goldeneye 007]]'' page for a while using Project64 (which has a screencap feature), because I can play that game at high resolution even on my laptop.

== The ''[[Kentucky Flintlock Rifle]]'' page. ==

The page is a mess. 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 18:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

: Not anymore, I fixed it. -GM

::Excellent. BTW, LMO has pics of the one from ''[[The Patriot]]''. -MT2008
: That pic looks nice but it doesn't need to be uploaded until someone screencaps the movie, and if that doesn't happen too quickly, I'll rent it and do it myself. -GM

== A forum going? ==

I don't know if there is but I'm not the first one to think that a forum for us all to chat in would be a great idea. Unless there is a section of this place that is like a forum site for us to chat with?

:We used to have one before the Great Crash months ago, but it's gone and hasn't been re-upped since. I agree it would be cool. -MT2008

==Call of Duty 4 pictures==

I've got good pictures of guns for Call of Duty 4, but i don't know how to upload them, anyone knows how to email me at r1c0ch37@gmail.com

:All you have to do is go to "Upload file" under the "Toolbox" section in the left-hand column. -MT2008

== What are those numbers? ==

to the left of the usernames on the recent changes page? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]]
: I'm a little confused what you mean but unregistered users have numbers instead of a name. -GM
:: I think he means the numbers in parenthesis, in which case, it's the number of text characters added or subtracted by that particular edit.

==Protection Log?==
Is something wrong with the site. Why are all the pics being fixed with "([edit=sysop:move=sysop])" for a protection log? I know little about that technical stuff, is someone removing the pics or are they just being protected from over-uploading crappy pics over? -GM

:They're being protected. Some asshole came in earlier today and kept trying to replace MoviePropMaster's pics with stock 'Net images, and kept doing it even after he was asked to stop. MPM's pics are our pride 'n joy...Alienqueen and I agreed not to let them get screwed with anymore. -MT2008

Yeah, that's reason why I did it. I just wish I had my ability to block users back, and then I wouldn't have had to set up protections. I told that guy not to upload over MPM2008's images and multiple times and he didn't listen.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

==Flannigan==
on the Snatch page- I know it already says that the .50 is a 357, but also another way of finding out is that .50s fire 7 rounds where as in the film Bullet tooth tony fires 8 in every mag. so it must be a 357.

Retrieved from "http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Snatch"

==Deleting old files==

As y'all can probably tell, I have been on a huge deleting spree recently. I've been getting rid of files that weren't being used for whatever reason or another. Some of them were gun images that have since been replaced by MoviePropMaster's images, others were old screencaps that have been replaced by newer ones (like all of my old ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' shots, which have since been replaced by GunMaster's), and some were those images of weird experimental guns uploaded by Cutaway that don't appear in any movie and thus have no purpose on this site.

I realize, of course, that this by itself won't relieve the strain on the servers; it's inevitable as this site grows. But it seems like a worthwhile thing to do. If anyone of the Admins are interested in helping out, please go to "Special Pages" and click on "Unused Files" (at the top). If you see something that might be worth keeping (i.e. Choi's screencaps from ''[[The Killer]]'' which haven't been put on the page yet), leave it alone, but if you see gun images that obviously have no use or screencaps that you know have been replaced...ditch 'em.

Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

Good Work, MT2008. I'm sure it'll give us more server space, I'll be sure to delete some myself. One question, if we get rid of the old files, will this site load faster?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

:Beats me, but I'd have to guess...not ''noticeably'' faster. It will at least give us more space for uploading newer files. However, IMFDB is constantly growing, so it's inevitable we'll reach our limits eventually. You'd have to ask Bunni when that will be. Anyway, I'm off to the pub now. I will be back later to continue. [[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:20, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Go right ahead, you deserve a break. I'll get rid of as many as I can, I'm also seeing alot of screenshots nobody bothered to use, it makes me wonder why people upload them if they're just going to sit there for a year and gather dust. And, I'm also going to screencap [[Four Brothers]] and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]] soon, so you can look forward to seeing them completed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Fictional Firearms==
I propose that we denote pages for 'fictional' firearms with parentheses "like Non Guns" so that they are in a different grouping than real guns. GM has made pages for the fantasy weapons of Hellboy II and that made me think about custom pages for the Morita Rifle (Starship troopers) or the M590 (Space:Above and Beyond) or the Blade Runner Pistol or any of the Star Wars guns (versus other types of Sci fi weapons, these should be guns). Even though THESE fictional guns are based on real guns, they can have their own pages with links to the original weapons page. Regardless, I think that guns that aren't real should be separated, lest they confuse users. Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

:I agree. I was kinda turned off when I saw the Aliens Resurrection page. None of those guns were based off of real firearms or even guns dressed up to look like futuristic guns.

::Well I get the point of making a post about fictional guns that were built around real guns like the Morita rifle and the Pulse Rifle of Aliens, but guns that were built from scratch like the Samaritian. Would it really need a page here or is that just for the fanboys who like the gun? It's like a page for the cars used in the Punisher movie or people who like to include knives, swords, and even bows & arrow in pages, including me. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

:::The advantage is that the page can inform an interested user that the prop was NOT based on any real firearm, information that is just as important as informing 'what real firearm' was used in a prop weapon. What I don't like are obvious NON crafted weapons .... like [[Molotov cocktails]] ... wtf? That's an improvised weapon, like a sharp stick or a brick.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

::What about bows & arrows, or crossbows? I put them in my pages cause when they are used, they an impression and deserve a mention evne though they aren't firearms. Also what about knives and swords? I've seen some of those as well, but I think the knife of Rambo should stay because...well, it's the knife of Rambo. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== My gripe on Empty pages ==

I've been seeing a lot of new pages lately. The problem is that they are a blank! Nothing, not even a list of guns. What the fuck? I mean, a list of guns with no photos is ok, but just a fucking blank page? Do the people that do that expect someone else to do the work for them? They mind as well type down, "someone list the guns and put up pics for me cause I am lazy as fuck to even give a list." At least writing that down says something. Not just a blank.
:We all understand your pain Exy, we need a more efficient way to let the anonymous users know that if you make a page, you got to do the work. You gotta watch the language though, people will see it and think it is okay to do often. We all do it, but we don't want it done for no reason. Just ignore the empty pages, let them do the work eventually. If they don't, delete the pages. Half of them are movies I've never heard of anyway. Keep an eye out for [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]], I'll have them done this week. -GM
::What about that new member who create thirty or so new movie pages (some of which barely had one gun in them) and then never filled out any of those pages? I'm tempted to give people a little time, but for movies in which I question their relevance to this site, I'm also tempted to get rid of blank pages and let people create them when they're ready to populate them with information. MPM
:::Sorry for the foul launguage. I'm used to talking on forums where the F word is acceptable when you are pissed. Swears is culturally part of any language and sometimes it slips and I like to think we're all adults here that do use swears in real life when it is required. Anyway. Nice job on the [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]] pages. I've only done one movie that had ONE gun in it and it was [[The Forbidden Kingdom]] and even I did the work for it. I guess the anonymous users might also just be curious guys online and just hope we know what movie they are talking about, have it, and would take the time to tell them what guns are in it by doing the pages, but maybe on the main page, someone should put down rules of how to operate this site. I mean, I wanted to put a new qoute into the qoute section, but can't cause I don't know how to do it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

=="jacked" summaries"==
One thing that irks me is people 'cut and pasting' a plot summary completely from IMDB. This is not only against IMFDB rules, but if any mods from IMDB sees them, they can make an stink about it. I'm tempted to 'erase' any pirated summaries and put a note to the original writer ''"'''Write your own summary in your own words'''. It isn't too hard, even to re-arrange the sentences and replace some words to make it LOOK like you wrote it yourself. Just don't lift them word for word from another well known source. IMDB itself has a rule that you must write your own summaries and not lift them from other 3rd party sources. So does IMFDB.org. "'' Of course there are so many jacked firearm images here, this may be hypocritical. Which is why I'm working so hard to get IMFDB their own exclusive gun images. But it's one thing to upload an image of an impossible to get gun which no one has, versus taking the time to type a few sentences...
:I agree. I did the same thing with my [[Black Lagoon]] page when I got here, but I took it off mainly because I didn't see the need for a summary at the beginning of the page that is THAT long winded. People are here for the guns and if they want to know what the movie or show is about, they just look it up. I don't know, I stopped writing summaries for movies and shows long ago. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::I think we don´t need summaries.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I disagree with those who think "we don't need no stinkin' summaries..." For those people who have NOT seen the movie a SHORT summaries are okay. I've put them on some of my pages, usually when I have something interesting to add. I do like them when someone puts a page for a movie so obscure that I have no idea what it's about (and I don't want to have to go hunting around the web to find out, capice?) I added summaries (and others did) for those REALLY OBSCURE East german B&W movies that are on the site. Who created those pages anyway? Like anyone's going to see Black and white German language communist era DDR movies .... oh well. I can always start creating pages for the cinema of 1930s Lithuania! hahahaha. But having no summary for SOME of the pages sucks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::I found some summaries to stick out too much. Maybe a sentence or two to just give the jist, or a catch phrase like, but really I don't do summaries anymore. But I'll think about it for the anime ones simply cause some of them are harder to find or most people wouldn't have interests in them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

==Leaving your sign==
If you want people to know who you are when you write things on pages and discussion boards, put four ~ symbols after your message. Your user name and time/date are automatically shown. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 20:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

:See?

:: What he said. ;)
::: I agree wholeheartedly ...

==Problems with formatting==
Anyone notice that some of the wikipages don't show the spaces that we put between sections (so that the formats don't get all jacked up when we have photos on the right).

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Benelli_M_Series_Super_90_Shotguns

I've been trying to fix the benelli shotgun page for a bit now, and every time I add spaces, it doesn't show up in the page. Is this a glitch?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== Should we have templates? ==

Like in Wikipedia?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

It WOULD make this site a bit more...colorful than the standard white background, but if it's too much work, then it's up to whoever really runs this place.

:In all honesty, what this site needs most of all is cross-referencing of some kind, so that if somebody enters the name of a gun in one page, it shows up on another. It's a downfall of Wikis in general, and this one in particular. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

==Views==

Is there a way how I could check how many people viewed may page like on the home page the top 5 articles says how many people have viewed are page.
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 01:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

User:TheDon152

2009-01-05T02:09:23Z

TheDon152: /* Projects */

== Pages I've made ==

(Note most of these were created before I created an account and are listed as my IP Adress)

* ''[[24: The Game]]''

* ''[[Timesplitters 2]]''

* ''[[Timesplitters: Future Perfect]]''

* ''[[Blacksite: Area 51]]''

* ''[[Medal of Honor: Rising Sun]]''

* ''[[Medal of Honor: European Assault]]''

* ''[[Matrix: Path of Neo]]''

* ''[[Battlefield: 1942]]''

* ''[[Commando's Strike Force]]''

* ''[[From Russia with Love (VG)]]''

* ''[[Warhound]]''

* ''[[The Strangers]]''

* ''[[9A91]]''

* ''[[Izhmash PP-19 Bizon]]''

* ''[[Balls of Fury]]''

== Guns that I Like ==

All AK varients

Uzi Varients

Glock 17

IMI Desert Eagle

Heckler & Koch MP5K

Steyr AUG

Steyr TMP

Mauser C96

MP40

STG44

Mauser Karabiner 98K

Heckler & Koch USP Match

Franchi SPAS 12

FN FAL

Makarov PM

Luger P08

Beretta M12

== About Me ==

Home State/City: Everett, Massachusetts

Age: 14

== Guns I Own ==

I currently don't actually own a firearm, but I hope to this year when I get my FID card. Not many gun stores in MA anyway because all of that shit is really enforced here, but I do own a few airsoft rifles.

== Projects ==

Current Project: Three Kings

Coming Soon: Balls of Fury

Extending Project: CSI (original)

Any questions please refer to my talk page, thanks.

User:TheDon152

2009-01-05T02:08:53Z

TheDon152:

== Pages I've made ==

(Note most of these were created before I created an account and are listed as my IP Adress)

* ''[[24: The Game]]''

* ''[[Timesplitters 2]]''

* ''[[Timesplitters: Future Perfect]]''

* ''[[Blacksite: Area 51]]''

* ''[[Medal of Honor: Rising Sun]]''

* ''[[Medal of Honor: European Assault]]''

* ''[[Matrix: Path of Neo]]''

* ''[[Battlefield: 1942]]''

* ''[[Commando's Strike Force]]''

* ''[[From Russia with Love (VG)]]''

* ''[[Warhound]]''

* ''[[The Strangers]]''

* ''[[9A91]]''

* ''[[Izhmash PP-19 Bizon]]''

* ''[[Balls of Fury]]''

== Guns that I Like ==

All AK varients

Uzi Varients

Glock 17

IMI Desert Eagle

Heckler & Koch MP5K

Steyr AUG

Steyr TMP

Mauser C96

MP40

STG44

Mauser Karabiner 98K

Heckler & Koch USP Match

Franchi SPAS 12

FN FAL

Makarov PM

Luger P08

Beretta M12

== About Me ==

Home State/City: Everett, Massachusetts

Age: 14

== Guns I Own ==

I currently don't actually own a firearm, but I hope to this year when I get my FID card. Not many gun stores in MA anyway because all of that shit is really enforced here, but I do own a few airsoft rifles.

== Projects ==

Current Project: Three Kings

Coming Soon: Balls of Fury

Extending Projects: CSI (original)

Any questions please refer to my talk page, thanks.

Fallout 3

2009-01-04T15:19:00Z

TheDon152: /* Sniper rifle */

[[Category:Video Game]]

[[Image:Fallout3poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]

The following guns were seen used in this post apocalyptic world. Most were just based from real life guns.

== AK - "Chinese Assault Rifle" ==

One of the more powerful ARs in the game, but also not the most accurate. This rifle seems to be based on several AK variants. In the game, it was designed and manufactured by Chinese industrial conglomerate Norinco for the People's Liberation Army during the Resource Wars. This AK fires 5.56 NATO. It has the overall appearance of the AK family of weapons, specifically the AK-107 assault rifle (barrel, muzzle brake, gas tube, front sight), but also it is like the RPD machine gun (front handguard, possibly rear sight) and also the Type 56-II assault rifle, of actual Chinese production, although only for export, the metallic folding frame stock.

The style of the muzzle brake,the iron sights,and the small size kinda resembles an AKS-74U.-[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]]

[[Image:Fallout3AK.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== R91 Assault Rifle ==

An H&K G3 based assault rifle. The number in the name obviously references the H&K 91, and cosmeticlly, it looks like the Spanish CETME rifles, but the biggest thing is that, in game, this assault rifle firest 5.56 NATO like the AK in the game. Or it could have been modeled after the CETME B or L model which are chambered in 5.56. Ingame wise, the most likely reason for the same ammo as the AK was to not worry about different types of ammo for 2 assault rifles that are so common in the game.

[[Image:Fallout3G3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Smith & Wesson Model 29 ==

This was more of a reference to the Road Warrior movie since it has a scope attached to it. In the game, it fires, accurately, the .44 Magnum.

[[Image:Fallout344.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Shansei C96 Chinese Pistols ==

As the name implies, this is based on the Mauser C96 pistol, specificlly, the chinese version.

[[Image:Fallout3c96.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Sawed off Double Barrel shotgun ==

The second type of shotgun that can be used in game. Another Road Warrior reference.

[[Image:Fallout3dbs.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== 10mm SMG ==

The only submachinegun in the game, and it's outward appearance almost seems like it is based on the MP5K without the foregrip and a more boxy looking upper reciever. It may also resemble the Special Weapons MP-10 dressed up with additional parts.

[[Image:Fallout3smg.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

[[Image:Mp10catch1.JPG|thumb|none|200px|The SW Mp-10]]

== Sniper rifle ==

Several verisons of the same design is used in the game. It's hard to tell what this rifle was based after, but it fires .308 rounds.

It looks like it was based on either the Russian SV98 or the Blaser 93-[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]]

[[Image:Fallout3sr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Combat Shotgun ==

This fictional shotgun has an overall appearence of the PPSh-41 from the fire selector switch located inside the trigger guard, the barrel's protruding muzzle-brake and the drum magazine. The way the reloading procedure is operated also points to the real PPSh-41, but this weapon acts more like an Armsel Striker shotgun

[[Image:Fallout3shotty.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== .32 Hunting Rifle ==

It is a Mauser-type bolt-action rifle, and resembles such the Remington 700 and Winchester 70 series. It uses the .32 Caliber Round. It is interesting to note that while this is a very accurate weapon, the in-game weapon model does not have rear or front sights, nor does it have a scope. In reality, this would make the weapon extremely difficult to aim at longer ranges and would render it almost totally worthless beyond close-range encounters, even to a skilled marksman.

[[Image:Fallout3hr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Lincoln's Repeater ==

Ok, this weapon, althought named Lincoln's Repeater was obviously intended to be based off of Lincoln's Spencer rifle, but the design of this rifle ingame, and how it was loaded is that of a Henry rifle, 15 rounds of a .44 caliber black powder cartridge rimfire rifle or the .44 Henry round. This rifle also has a wooden handguard in front, very similar to a Winchester Model 1866. And it is possible to modify the rifle to fire .44 Magnum rounds, but it was more a thing in the game so that you can find a semi-commong ammo type that can be found in the game than anything else. Despite what the creators had intended, they got their rifles mixed up when they called this rifle "Lincoln's Repeater".

::Wasn't it the SPENCER rifle that was presented to Lincoln, NOT the Henry rifle?
::''On August 18, 1863, Christopher Spencer walked into the White House carrying one of his rifles and a supply of cartridges. He walked past the sentries, and into Abraham Lincoln's office. After some discussion, he returned the following afternoon, when Spencer and Lincoln were joined by Edwin Stanton, Secretary of War and other officials, and the group then proceeded to walk out on the Mall. Near the site of the Washington Monument, they engaged in target shooting. Subsequent to that meeting, the U.S ordered some 13,171 rifles and carbines, along with some 58 million rounds of ammunition (source: Wikipedia)''

:Today, they make replicas fire whatever they want. Uberti makes a .44 Magnum Henry. (Henry now makes a .44 Magnum "Big Boy", but that is a completely new gun) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
[[Image:Fallout3lr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

::Oh YEAH...it WAS a Spencer. I really hate myself now. I just watched a history channel special about it and I forgot which gun it was... This is embarrassing...[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:Don't hate yourself, he ''was'' presented a Henry at some point. The gun seen in For a Few Dollars More is replica model of that gun. They even sell a modern replica today. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

[[Image:Fallout3lr2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

Fallout 3

2009-01-04T15:15:33Z

TheDon152: /* AK - "Chinese Assault Rifle" */

[[Category:Video Game]]

[[Image:Fallout3poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]

The following guns were seen used in this post apocalyptic world. Most were just based from real life guns.

== AK - "Chinese Assault Rifle" ==

One of the more powerful ARs in the game, but also not the most accurate. This rifle seems to be based on several AK variants. In the game, it was designed and manufactured by Chinese industrial conglomerate Norinco for the People's Liberation Army during the Resource Wars. This AK fires 5.56 NATO. It has the overall appearance of the AK family of weapons, specifically the AK-107 assault rifle (barrel, muzzle brake, gas tube, front sight), but also it is like the RPD machine gun (front handguard, possibly rear sight) and also the Type 56-II assault rifle, of actual Chinese production, although only for export, the metallic folding frame stock.

The style of the muzzle brake,the iron sights,and the small size kinda resembles an AKS-74U.-[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]]

[[Image:Fallout3AK.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== R91 Assault Rifle ==

An H&K G3 based assault rifle. The number in the name obviously references the H&K 91, and cosmeticlly, it looks like the Spanish CETME rifles, but the biggest thing is that, in game, this assault rifle firest 5.56 NATO like the AK in the game. Or it could have been modeled after the CETME B or L model which are chambered in 5.56. Ingame wise, the most likely reason for the same ammo as the AK was to not worry about different types of ammo for 2 assault rifles that are so common in the game.

[[Image:Fallout3G3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Smith & Wesson Model 29 ==

This was more of a reference to the Road Warrior movie since it has a scope attached to it. In the game, it fires, accurately, the .44 Magnum.

[[Image:Fallout344.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Shansei C96 Chinese Pistols ==

As the name implies, this is based on the Mauser C96 pistol, specificlly, the chinese version.

[[Image:Fallout3c96.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Sawed off Double Barrel shotgun ==

The second type of shotgun that can be used in game. Another Road Warrior reference.

[[Image:Fallout3dbs.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== 10mm SMG ==

The only submachinegun in the game, and it's outward appearance almost seems like it is based on the MP5K without the foregrip and a more boxy looking upper reciever. It may also resemble the Special Weapons MP-10 dressed up with additional parts.

[[Image:Fallout3smg.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

[[Image:Mp10catch1.JPG|thumb|none|200px|The SW Mp-10]]

== Sniper rifle ==

Several verisons of the same design is used in the game. It's hard to tell what this rifle was based after, but it fires .308 rounds.

[[Image:Fallout3sr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Combat Shotgun ==

This fictional shotgun has an overall appearence of the PPSh-41 from the fire selector switch located inside the trigger guard, the barrel's protruding muzzle-brake and the drum magazine. The way the reloading procedure is operated also points to the real PPSh-41, but this weapon acts more like an Armsel Striker shotgun

[[Image:Fallout3shotty.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== .32 Hunting Rifle ==

It is a Mauser-type bolt-action rifle, and resembles such the Remington 700 and Winchester 70 series. It uses the .32 Caliber Round. It is interesting to note that while this is a very accurate weapon, the in-game weapon model does not have rear or front sights, nor does it have a scope. In reality, this would make the weapon extremely difficult to aim at longer ranges and would render it almost totally worthless beyond close-range encounters, even to a skilled marksman.

[[Image:Fallout3hr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Lincoln's Repeater ==

Ok, this weapon, althought named Lincoln's Repeater was obviously intended to be based off of Lincoln's Spencer rifle, but the design of this rifle ingame, and how it was loaded is that of a Henry rifle, 15 rounds of a .44 caliber black powder cartridge rimfire rifle or the .44 Henry round. This rifle also has a wooden handguard in front, very similar to a Winchester Model 1866. And it is possible to modify the rifle to fire .44 Magnum rounds, but it was more a thing in the game so that you can find a semi-commong ammo type that can be found in the game than anything else. Despite what the creators had intended, they got their rifles mixed up when they called this rifle "Lincoln's Repeater".

::Wasn't it the SPENCER rifle that was presented to Lincoln, NOT the Henry rifle?
::''On August 18, 1863, Christopher Spencer walked into the White House carrying one of his rifles and a supply of cartridges. He walked past the sentries, and into Abraham Lincoln's office. After some discussion, he returned the following afternoon, when Spencer and Lincoln were joined by Edwin Stanton, Secretary of War and other officials, and the group then proceeded to walk out on the Mall. Near the site of the Washington Monument, they engaged in target shooting. Subsequent to that meeting, the U.S ordered some 13,171 rifles and carbines, along with some 58 million rounds of ammunition (source: Wikipedia)''

:Today, they make replicas fire whatever they want. Uberti makes a .44 Magnum Henry. (Henry now makes a .44 Magnum "Big Boy", but that is a completely new gun) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
[[Image:Fallout3lr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

::Oh YEAH...it WAS a Spencer. I really hate myself now. I just watched a history channel special about it and I forgot which gun it was... This is embarrassing...[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:Don't hate yourself, he ''was'' presented a Henry at some point. The gun seen in For a Few Dollars More is replica model of that gun. They even sell a modern replica today. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

[[Image:Fallout3lr2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

Fallout 3

2009-01-04T15:14:41Z

TheDon152: /* AK - "Chinese Assault Rifle" */

[[Category:Video Game]]

[[Image:Fallout3poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]

The following guns were seen used in this post apocalyptic world. Most were just based from real life guns.

== AK - "Chinese Assault Rifle" ==

One of the more powerful ARs in the game, but also not the most accurate. This rifle seems to be based on several AK variants. In the game, it was designed and manufactured by Chinese industrial conglomerate Norinco for the People's Liberation Army during the Resource Wars. This AK fires 5.56 NATO. It has the overall appearance of the AK family of weapons, specifically the AK-107 assault rifle (barrel, muzzle brake, gas tube, front sight), but also it is like the RPD machine gun (front handguard, possibly rear sight) and also the Type 56-II assault rifle, of actual Chinese production, although only for export, the metallic folding frame stock.

The style of the muzzle brake and the small size kinda resembles an AKS-74U.-[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]]

[[Image:Fallout3AK.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== R91 Assault Rifle ==

An H&K G3 based assault rifle. The number in the name obviously references the H&K 91, and cosmeticlly, it looks like the Spanish CETME rifles, but the biggest thing is that, in game, this assault rifle firest 5.56 NATO like the AK in the game. Or it could have been modeled after the CETME B or L model which are chambered in 5.56. Ingame wise, the most likely reason for the same ammo as the AK was to not worry about different types of ammo for 2 assault rifles that are so common in the game.

[[Image:Fallout3G3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Smith & Wesson Model 29 ==

This was more of a reference to the Road Warrior movie since it has a scope attached to it. In the game, it fires, accurately, the .44 Magnum.

[[Image:Fallout344.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Shansei C96 Chinese Pistols ==

As the name implies, this is based on the Mauser C96 pistol, specificlly, the chinese version.

[[Image:Fallout3c96.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Sawed off Double Barrel shotgun ==

The second type of shotgun that can be used in game. Another Road Warrior reference.

[[Image:Fallout3dbs.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== 10mm SMG ==

The only submachinegun in the game, and it's outward appearance almost seems like it is based on the MP5K without the foregrip and a more boxy looking upper reciever. It may also resemble the Special Weapons MP-10 dressed up with additional parts.

[[Image:Fallout3smg.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

[[Image:Mp10catch1.JPG|thumb|none|200px|The SW Mp-10]]

== Sniper rifle ==

Several verisons of the same design is used in the game. It's hard to tell what this rifle was based after, but it fires .308 rounds.

[[Image:Fallout3sr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Combat Shotgun ==

This fictional shotgun has an overall appearence of the PPSh-41 from the fire selector switch located inside the trigger guard, the barrel's protruding muzzle-brake and the drum magazine. The way the reloading procedure is operated also points to the real PPSh-41, but this weapon acts more like an Armsel Striker shotgun

[[Image:Fallout3shotty.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== .32 Hunting Rifle ==

It is a Mauser-type bolt-action rifle, and resembles such the Remington 700 and Winchester 70 series. It uses the .32 Caliber Round. It is interesting to note that while this is a very accurate weapon, the in-game weapon model does not have rear or front sights, nor does it have a scope. In reality, this would make the weapon extremely difficult to aim at longer ranges and would render it almost totally worthless beyond close-range encounters, even to a skilled marksman.

[[Image:Fallout3hr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

== Lincoln's Repeater ==

Ok, this weapon, althought named Lincoln's Repeater was obviously intended to be based off of Lincoln's Spencer rifle, but the design of this rifle ingame, and how it was loaded is that of a Henry rifle, 15 rounds of a .44 caliber black powder cartridge rimfire rifle or the .44 Henry round. This rifle also has a wooden handguard in front, very similar to a Winchester Model 1866. And it is possible to modify the rifle to fire .44 Magnum rounds, but it was more a thing in the game so that you can find a semi-commong ammo type that can be found in the game than anything else. Despite what the creators had intended, they got their rifles mixed up when they called this rifle "Lincoln's Repeater".

::Wasn't it the SPENCER rifle that was presented to Lincoln, NOT the Henry rifle?
::''On August 18, 1863, Christopher Spencer walked into the White House carrying one of his rifles and a supply of cartridges. He walked past the sentries, and into Abraham Lincoln's office. After some discussion, he returned the following afternoon, when Spencer and Lincoln were joined by Edwin Stanton, Secretary of War and other officials, and the group then proceeded to walk out on the Mall. Near the site of the Washington Monument, they engaged in target shooting. Subsequent to that meeting, the U.S ordered some 13,171 rifles and carbines, along with some 58 million rounds of ammunition (source: Wikipedia)''

:Today, they make replicas fire whatever they want. Uberti makes a .44 Magnum Henry. (Henry now makes a .44 Magnum "Big Boy", but that is a completely new gun) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
[[Image:Fallout3lr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]

::Oh YEAH...it WAS a Spencer. I really hate myself now. I just watched a history channel special about it and I forgot which gun it was... This is embarrassing...[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:Don't hate yourself, he ''was'' presented a Henry at some point. The gun seen in For a Few Dollars More is replica model of that gun. They even sell a modern replica today. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

[[Image:Fallout3lr2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

User:TheDon152

2009-01-03T15:21:16Z

TheDon152: /* Guns I Own */

User:TheDon152

2009-01-03T15:20:57Z

TheDon152:

== Pages I've made ==

(Note most of these were created before I created an account and are listed as my IP Adress)

* ''[[24: The Game]]''

* ''[[Timesplitters 2]]''

* ''[[Timesplitters: Future Perfect]]''

* ''[[Blacksite: Area 51]]''

* ''[[Medal of Honor: Rising Sun]]''

* ''[[Medal of Honor: European Assault]]''

* ''[[Matrix: Path of Neo]]''

* ''[[Battlefield: 1942]]''

* ''[[Commando's Strike Force]]''

* ''[[From Russia with Love (VG)]]''

* ''[[Warhound]]''

* ''[[The Strangers]]''

* ''[[9A91]]''

* ''[[Izhmash PP-19 Bizon]]''

* ''[[Balls of Fury]]''

== Guns that I Like ==

All AK varients

Uzi Varients

Glock 17

IMI Desert Eagle

Heckler & Koch MP5K

Steyr AUG

Steyr TMP

Mauser C96

MP40

STG44

Mauser Karabiner 98K

Heckler & Koch USP Match

Franchi SPAS 12

FN FAL

Makarov PM

Luger P08

Beretta M12

== About Me ==

Home State/City: Everett, Massachusetts

Age: 14

== Guns I Own ==

I curently don't actually own a firearm, but I hope to this year when I get my FID card. Not many gun stores in MA anyway because all of that shit is really enforced here, but I do own a few airsoft rifles.

User talk:TheDon152

2009-01-03T15:15:53Z

TheDon152:

Behind Enemy Lines

2009-01-03T01:32:09Z

TheDon152: /* AK-47 */

'''The following guns were used in the film Behind Enemy Lines:'''
[[Image:Behind Enemy Lines movie.jpg|right|300px]]

== Beretta 92SB ==

Both Stackhouse ([[Gabriel Macht]]) and Lt. Chris Burnett ([[Owen Wilson]]) have [[Beretta M92F|Beretta 92SB]] handguns as their sidearms. When the two of them first crash land in Bosnia after their F/A-18F Super Hornet is shot down, Stackhouse is discovered by the Serbs. They take his weapon and question him. After that, a Serb sniper named Sasha ([[Vladimir Mashkov]]) uses the pilot's own weapon to execute him, and then uses it to shoot at Burnett when he is discovered. Burnett later uses his [[Beretta M92F|Beretta 92SB]] to shoot and injure Sasha near the end of the film. This model of the Beretta won the airforce trials and is accurately portayed as used in the film. Note how it has a rounded trigger guard front. The later models such as the 92F and 92FS would incorporate the curved trigger guard later on. The use of this handgun also would seem to depict that this film is set around the same time as USAF Captain Scott O'Grady crashed in Bosnia(1995), in which this film is loosely based.

[[Image:92SB.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta M92SB 9mm(note rounded trigger guard)]]
[[Image:BEL_Beretta2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Sasha firing Stackhouses' [[Beretta M92F|Beretta 92SB]]]]
[[Image:BEL_Beretta.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Lt. Burnett firing his Beretta 92SB]]

== Beretta 92FS ==

In addition to the Beretta 92SB's mentioned above, a few [[Beretta 92 series pistols#Beretta 92FS|Beretta 92FS]] pistols can also be seen, most notably when the Marines are gearing up for the rescue mission aboard the ''Harry S. Truman''.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS 9mm]]
[[Image:BEL M92FS.JPG|thumb|none|400px|A U.S. Marine checks his Beretta 92FS while preparing for the rescue mission]]

== CZ-75B ==

The Serbians use [[CZ-75|CZ-75B]] handguns as their sidearms. It is most notably seen when Sasha ([[Vladimir Mashkov]]) uses his to fire at Burnett ([[Owen Wilson]]) when he is first discovered by the Serbs. He also uses it later on to detonate an unexploded landmine.

[[Image:CZ75B-lg.jpg|thumb|300px|none|CZ-75B 9mm]]
[[Image:BEL_CZ.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Sasha fires his CZ-75B at Lt. Burnett]]
[[Image:BEL CZ75B 2.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Miroslav Lokar brandishes his CZ-75B]]

== CZ-52 ==

In the scene were Lt. Burnett enters the mall that the Serbian troops are attacking, he enters an area were several civilans are hiding, one of them questions him while holding a [[CZ-52]] up to his chest before the area is hit by a round fired by a Serbian tank.

[[Image:Cz52.jpg|thumb|300px|left|CZ-52 7.62x25mm with an unfired round]]
[[Image:BEL_Handgun.jpg|thumb|400px|none|A civilan holds a CZ-52 on Lt. Burnett]]

== Sig Sauer SSG 3000 ==

Throughout the film, Sasha can be seen carrying a [[Sig Sauer SSG 3000]] sniper rifle with folding bipod as his main weapon, firing on Burnett with it several times as he persues him across Bosnia, though never scores a fatal shot.

[[Image:SSG3000.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Sig Sauer SSG 3000 7.62x51mm NATO with folding bipod]]
[[Image:BEL_Arctic.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sasha fires his Sig SSG 3000 at Burnett.]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5A3 ==

Several of the Serbian soldiers seen throughout the film can be seen carrying [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]'s.

[[Image:MP5A3.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9mm]]
[[Image:BEL_MP5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Serb firing an H&K MP5A3 in the air]]
[[Image:BEL_MP5_2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Serbian soldier with an H&K MP5A3]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5K ==

The General of the Serbian troops, Miroslav Lokar ([[Olek Krupa]]) carries a [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5K]] with extended barrel throughout the film.
[[Image:MP5KA3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5KN - H&K MP5K.]]
[[Image:BEL_MP5_3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Miroslav Lokar firing his H&K MP5K-PDW at the end of the film]]
[[Image:BEL_MP5_4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Miroslav Lokar questioning Lt. Stackhouse ([[Gabriel Macht]]) with his H&K MP5K-PDW slung]]

== Mosin Nagant ==

At the end of the film when Burnett ([[Owen Wilson]]) is being rescued by the U.S Marines, A Serb sniper with a heavily Camouflaged [[Mosin Nagant]] attempts to shoot Burnett while he's running back to the helicopters, but before he can fire, he is taken out by a Marine sniper.

[[Image:SLG-MN9130S.jpg|thumb|350px|left|[[Mosin Nagant]] 91/30 Sniper Variant with Russian PU Sniper Scope and down-turned bolt handle.]]
[[Image:BEL_Nagant.jpg|thumb|400px|none|A Serbian sniper takes aim with a Mosin Nagant 91/30 Rifle in 7.62x54R]]

It can't be a mosin-nagant. When he is shot and falls back, the magazine well is shown to be flat, not extended and curved.

The rifle this soldier is using is a CZ 700 or 750. The movie was made in Czech Republic (or Slovakia) and they used the weapons that are in that country, except for a few possibly Yugo AK's for the Serbs.

== AK-47 ==

While hunting for Burnett, at least one Serbian soldier can be seen carrying a genuine [[AK-47#AK-47|AK-47]] rifle. Several can also be seen in the opening scene when the Serbian solders were planting trees on the graves.

:Don't use this picture again. Most of the "genuine" AK-47s in circulation look nothing like it.

[[Image:AK-47.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AK-47 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BEL AK47.JPG|thumb|none|400px|The Serbian soldier in the middle can be seen carrying an AK-47 while hunting for Lt. Burnett]]

== Zastava M70B2 ==

During flashbacks to the ethnic cleansing scene that took place at the beginning of the film, several Serbian soldiers can be seen using [[Zastava M70|Zastava M70B2]] assault rifles to slaughter civilians that would fill the mass grave Burnett and Stackhouse are later shot down for discovering. The M70B is the Serbian AKM copy and differs primarily in that it has a folding sight for launching grenades in front of the gas tube, which is clearly visible in the screencap below. The B1 is fixed stock and the B2 is folding stock.

[[Image:Zastava M70AB2.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Zastava M70B2 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BEL AKS47.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Serbian soldiers chamber their Zastava M70B2 in a flashback to the ethnic cleansing scene]]

== AKM ==

Many of the Serbian soldiers can be seen with [[AK-47#AKM|AKM]] rifles throughout the film. A couple are also seen being carried by civilians Burnett encounters, including a young man who accompanies Burnett in his attempt to reach the extraction point. Burnett also comandeers one of these weapons from a dead Serbian soldier and uses it for most of the remainder of the film.

[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|350px|left|AKM 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BEL_AK.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Burnett with an AKM]]

== Sa vz 58 ==

Along with the AKM, many of the Serbian soldiers can also be seen carrying [[Sa vz 58]] rifles, most notably in the scene where Burnett is navagating the minefield. A pair of Serbian soldiers brandishing Sa vz 58 rifles spot him and give chase, unaware of the minefield until they trigger it, killing them and destroying their rifles.

[[Image:VZ58.jpg|thumb|left|350px|Sa vz 58V 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BEL_Sa.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Serb takes aim with an Sa vz 58V before setting off several land mines]]

== AKMSU ==

Yet another weapon used by the Serbians is the [[AK-47#AKMSU|AKMSU]] carbine. It is carried by Bazda ([[Marko Igonda]]) most of the time.

[[Image:YugoKrinkov.jpg|thumb|none|300px|AKMSU 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BEL_AK74.jpg|thumb|none|400px|To the right: Bazda has an AKMSU]]

== M40 Sniper Rifle ==

The [[Remington 700#Remington PSS700|Remington PSS700]] sniper rifle also appears in the film carried by U.S Marines in several scenes.

[[Image:M40a1standard-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Remington M40 sniper rifle 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BEL_M40.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The Serbian soldier to left has a Sniper Rifle in this scene.]]

Not a real accurate way of confirmation, but, that doesn't look like aan M40. Most likely a CZ550 varmint heavy bbl.

== Browning M2 ==

In the scene where Stackhouse is captured, some of the Serbian vehicles arriving on the scene can be seen with American-made [[Browning M2]] heavy machine guns mounted on them.

[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Browning M2 .50 BMG]]
[[Image:BEL_Browning.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Browning M2 manned by a Serb in the back of a russian-made UAZ-469 jeep]]

== SVD Dragunov ==

Another Weapon of the Serbs is the [[SVD Dragunov]] Sniper Rifle. It is briefly seen in the hands of several of the troops chasing Burnett into the graves.

[[Image:SVD Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SVD Dragunov Sniper Rifle 7.62x54mm]]
[[Image:BEL_Dragonov.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The Serb in the middle of this group has an SVD Dragunov]]

== FAMAS-F1 ==

The [[FAMAS#|FAMAS-F1]] can be seen briefly in the hands of the French Special Forces troops in the Savior Six helicopter.

[[Image:Famas.jpg|thumb|left|350px|GIAT FAMAS F1, 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:BEL_FAMAS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The French soldier closest to the right has a [[FAMAS]].]]

== Unknown Sniper Rifle ==

One of the French Special Forces Troop in the Savior Six helicopter can be seen with a Sniper Rifle of unknown make or model.

[[Image:BEL_Sniper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The French soldier in the back has an unknown Sniper Rifle (M24 SWS ???)]]

== M16A2 ==

In several scenes, U.S. Marines can be seen armed with [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]] assault rifles, most notably at the climax of the film, when Marine forces rescue Burnett ([[Owen Wilson]]).

:Barrel's too short, plus it has an A1-style rear sight. It's more likely a Colt Model 653 or 654 (CAR-15) carbine.

[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|350px|left|M16A2 5.56mm]]
[[Image:BEL_M16.jpg|thumb|400px|none|An U.S. Marine fires an M16A2 from a UH-1 Huey gunship]]

== GE M134 Minigun ==

When the U.S Marines rescue Burnett at the end of the film, several UH-1 Huey Gunship helicopters armed with [[GE M134 Minigun]]s can be seen firing at the Serbian forces trying to kill Burnett.

[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|left|300px|GE M134 Minigun in 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BEL_GE.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A GE M134 Minigun on the side of a UH-1 Huey Gunship firing]]

== M60D Machine Gun ==

When the U.S. Marines rescue Burnett at the end of the film, several [[M60 machine gun#M60D Machine Gun|M60D machine gun]]s can be seen door-mounted in UH-1 Huey Gunship helicopters.

[[Image:M60d.jpg|thumb|left|350px|M60D machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:BEL_M240.jpg|thumb|none|400px|An M60D machine gun can be seen behind Captain Brandon ([[Laurence Mason]]) just before he fast-ropes to get Burnett.]]

== NSV Heavy Machine Gun ==

In some scenes, a few of the T72 tanks operated by the Serbians can be seen with [[NSV heavy machine gun]]s mounted on the Tank Commander's hatch on top of the turret.

[[Image:6U6 NSV 02.jpg|thumb|none|250px|NSV heavy machine gun 12.7x107mm in anti-aircraft mounting]]
[[Image:BEL NSV.JPG|thumb|none|400px|A Serbian T72 fitted with an NSV heavy machine gun on the Commander's hatch]]

[[Category:Movie]]

The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor

2008-12-31T18:50:54Z

TheDon152: /* M1911 */

'''The following guns were used in the film ''[[The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor]]'''''
[[Image:M3poster1.jpg|300px|right|]]

==Thompson M1928==

Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) can be seen using the [[Thompson]] in the Himalayas in a gunfight with General Yang's soldiers. The script has him say that the box magazines have 25 rounds, despite there are only 20 and 30 round box magazines. He was correct with his 50 round drum. It jammed on him in the middle of the fight, which pissed Rick off that his son, Alex, was correct. We never see him reload to the box magazine, but from watching, he spent the 50 round drum too fast.

[[Image:M1928.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1928 "Tommy Gun" .45 ACP, made famous through countless classic gangster movies.]]
[[Image:Ign6.jpg|thumb|none|300px| Rick O' Connell ([[Brendan Fraser]]) armed with a [[Thompson]] along side his wife and brother in-law.]]
[[Image:TommyHPMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Let's give them a warm O'Connell Welcome."]]

==PPS-43==

Alex O' Connell ([[Luke Ford]]) arms himself with the PPS-43 sub-machine gun during the battle with Yang's soldiers in the Himalayas. Alex refered to it as a "personal assault weapon"

[[Image:Ppsh43PISTOL.jpg|thumb|300px|none| Soviet PPS-43 7.62x25mm Tokarev Sub-Machine Gun.]]
[[Image:1133.JPG|thumb|none|300px| Alex ([[Luke Ford]]) fires the soviet PPS-43 SMG.]]

==PPSh 41==

Alex ([[Luke Ford]]) passes this weapon off to Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) near the end of the battle shortly before they go after the Emperor. Alex can also be seen firing it off the back of the motorcycle at General Yang's soldiers while Rick drives.

[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg‎|thumb|300px|none|Soviet PPSh-41 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev.]]

[[Image:PPSHHPMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ppsh2Mummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Remington model 8==

This rifle with scope and silencer in disassembled condition can be seen in the weapon box of Alex O'Connel.

[[Image:Remington_model_8.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Remington model 8 rifle.]]
[[Image:Remington_8.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

==Norinco Type 54==
[[Image:NorincoType54-9mm.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Norinco Type 54 Model 213 - 9mm.]]

General Yang uses a Type 54 pistol as his weapon throughout the film. This is an anachronism because the Chinese did not start manufacturing the Type 54 until the 1950s as the film is set in 1946.

==Chinese Type 56 SKS Rifle==

Several SKS semi-automatic rifles can be seen in the hands of General Yang's men throughout the film.

[[Image:SKS Flickr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SKS rifle 7.62x39mm with bayonet folded.]]
[[Image:SKSMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:SKSMummy3b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Sten Mk.II==

The 9mm Sten Mk. II Sub-Machine gun can be seen in the hands of Rick during the undead battle near the end of the film.

[[Image:Unitsten2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
[[Image:Film BrendanMaria.jpg|thumb|none|300px| Rick armed with the [[Sten]] along side Evelyn.]]
[[Image:StenMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:StenMummy3b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Bren Mk.1==

Jonathan Carnahan ([[John Hannah]]) can be seen firing this machine gun from Mad Dog Maguire's plane.

[[Image:Bren_mk2.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Bren machine gun.]]

==Browning M1919==

This mounted machine gun can be seen in the back of General Yang's vehicle being fired by a soldier at Rick and Alex as they escape on a motorcycle.

[[Image:M1919A4Browning.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Browning M1919 .30-06 on M2 tripod.]]
[[Image:M1919SMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Winchester Model 12==

Rick can be seen using this sawed off pistol gripped pump shotgun in the third Mummy film after taking it off the dead body of one of General Yang's soldiers in the gunfight in the Himalayas, Rick uses it to shoot a few of the soldiers and to fire at the Emperor to no avail.

[[Image:Mummyshotty.JPG|thumb|none|300px|Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) armed with a [[Winchester Model 1912]] with a sawed-off stock and barrel.]]

==M1911==

Rick O' Connell carries [[M1911]] pistols in the film and uses them on a few occasions, specifically in the Himalayas gunbattle and on the Emperor's Terra Cotta warriors during the undead battle near the end.[[M1911]] Pistols can be seen in the hands of various other characters throughout the film.

[[Image:1911_1.jpg‎|thumb|300px|none|US 1911 Pistol, .45 ACP, in its first version (WWI Era).]]

[[Image:1911Mummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Browning Hi-Power==

Evelyn can be seen using a pair of [[Browning Hi-Power]] pistols in the film. Alex also uses a couple in the film, as well as Roger Wilson who uses it to threaten the O' Connells and shoot at the assassin in the Emperor's Tomb in an early scene. Alex also keeps a pair in his weapons trunk next to his Walther P38s.

[[Image:Browning HP West German Police.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Browning Hi-Power 9mm.]]
[[Image:The mummy 3 59.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Evelyn O' Connell ([[Maria Bello]]) with two [[Browning Hi-Power]] pistols.]]

[[Image:browningHPMummy3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:browningHPMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:browningHPMummy3b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"What? Did you rob an armory on your way here?"]]

==Walther P38==

Alex briefly pulls the [[Walther P38]] from his gun chest and shows the firearm to Rick as the father and son compare weapon choices.

[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther P38 9mm.]]
[[Image:P38Mummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Smith & Wesson Military & Police==

Rick carries a pair of these Smith & Wesson revolvers early in the film and brandishes them when the Emperor is awakened, firing multiple shots at him and then using them briefly on the streets of ShangHai before losing them.

[[Image:SmithWesson10-5.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Smith & Wesson Model Military & Police .38 Special.]]
[[Image:M3S&WMP.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:110907 i2.jpg|thumb|300px|none| Rick O' Connell ([[Brendan Fraser]]) wields a pair of Smith & Wesson Military & Police revolvers in the third Mummy.]]
[[Image:110907 i11.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The Smith & Wesson Military & Police can be seen in the background as the gun second from the top.]]

==Webley Mk. VI==

The [[Webley Mk VI]] revolver can be seen briefly in the hands of Jonathan in the Himilayas gunfight scene but he never fires it.

[[Image:Webley.JPG|thumb|none|300px|Webley Mk VI .455 Webley.]]
[[Image:110907 i11.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The Webley Mk VI can be seen in the background as the top gun in the case.]]

==Colt 1873 Single Action Army==

Rick early on uses this weapon as an effective method to catch fish after getting frustrated while learning to fly fish back in England. He later shows this revolver to Alex when the two of them are comparing weapon choices. He also uses it to fire a few shots on the Emperor.

[[Image:Colt_saa4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Colt Single Action Army]] .45 Long Colt.]]
[[Image:110907 i11.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A 5 1/2" Colt SAA can be seen in the background as the gun to the bottom.]]
[[Image:SAAMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Peacekeeper]]

==Winchester Model 1897==

The [[Winchester Model 1897]] shotgun can be seen in the weapon box of Rick O'Connell but he never fires it.

[[Image:1897.jpg|thumb|none|320px|Winchester Model 1897 12 guage militarized.]]
[[Image:Weapon_Box_Rick.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Winchester Model 1897 can be seen as the left gun in the case.]]

==Winchester Model 1887==

The [[Winchester Model 1887]] shotgun can be seen in the weapon box of Rick O'Connell but he never fires it.

[[Image:M1887 Airsoft.jpg|thumb|300px|left|Replica Winchester Model 1887 with sawed-off stock and barrel as used in ''[[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]]''.]]
[[Image:Weapon_Box_Rick.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Winchester Model 1887 can be seen as the right gun in the case.]]

==Colt Detective Special==

Evy ([[Maria Bello]]) briefly uses a [[Colt Detective Special]] snub nose revolver that Rick kicks to her to fire at the newly awakened Emperor in the Shanghai Museum.

[[Image:Colt_Detective_Special.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Colt Detective Special.]]
[[Image:Colt-Eve.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|400px|Eve fires with a Colt Detectiv Special.]]

==Winchester Model 1894==

Evy ([[Maria Bello]]) uses this 30-30 lever-action rifle as her weapon of choice to fend of General Yang's soldiers in the Himalayas.

[[Image:Winchester_Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Winchester Model 1894.]]
[[Image:110907 i3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The Winchester Model 1894 can be seen in the hands of Evy ([[Maria Bello]]) in the foreground.]]

==Type Zhongzheng rifle==

These bolt-action rifles also known as the "Chiang Kai-shek Rifle" and "Type 24" is carried and used by General Yang's soldiers throughout the film. The Type Zhongzheng rifle is a licenced, Chinese copy of the Mauser Standard Modell rifle, the forerunner to the Mauser [[Karabiner 98k]] rifle, and was used extensively by both Nationalist and Communist forces during the Chinese Civil War in the 1940s.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm]]

''NOTE: This picutre of the Kar98k is a "stand-in" until somebody can find and post a picture of the Type Zhongzheng rifle''

==M9 Bazooka==

General Yang's men can be seen firing M9 Bazookas in the film.

[[Image:M9bazooka.JPG|thumb|none|300px|M9 Bazooka.]]
[[Image:Mummyrpcklets.JPG|thumb|none|300px|]]
[[Image:BazookaMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:BazookaMummy3b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Mk.II grenade==

Rick O' Connell ([[Brendan Fraser]]) can be seen throwing at least one grenade during the battle scene, grenades are also used by Alex ([[Luke Ford]]) and possibly some of General Yang's soldiers.

==Unknown Weapons==

Two unclassified sawed-off shotguns can bee seen in weapon box of Rick O'Connel.

[[Image:Weapon_Box_2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two unclassified sawed-off shotguns can bee seen on the bottom of weapon box.]]

[[Category:Movie]]

Talk:Beretta PM12S

2008-12-30T19:24:25Z

TheDon152: New page: I think that this page should be moved to the Beretta M12 section because the weapon actually '''is''' a Beretta M12. But I think it should be decided by popular vote.- User:TheDon152

I think that this page should be moved to the Beretta M12 section because the weapon actually '''is''' a Beretta M12. But I think it should be decided by popular vote.- [[User:TheDon152]]

Talk:Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

2008-12-30T18:43:43Z

TheDon152:

Ah, goddamnit. I wanted to do this.
Well, maybe i can make it up to IMFDB standards sometime, just '''DON'T''' do Half-Life 2. - [[User:Flying Dane|Flying Dane]]

What the '''FUCK?!''', i actually made this article good a few months ago, i worked a whole fucking day on this and then you unregistered '''CUNT''' come in here and shit on everything! I know it's just a IMFDB article, but Jesus Teabagging Christ, you just don't come in some place and shit all over someone's work. BTW, if Bunni, Sysop or Orca are looking at this, and think i'm being a little harsh, then think if someone did this to your gigantic article with images and screenshots, i'm sure you'd be pretty pissed too. Oh yeah, to you, the guy who fucked this up: Kindly piss off. - [[User:Flying Dane]]

It was a well made article, but all that work that was done on it was lost in the server crash a few weeks ago. I don't blame you for being mad, it was the best videogame article here.
[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

Oh, well, sorry for the flip out. I thought some guy just deleted the whole thing. - [[User:Flying Dane]]

There are various Errors with it, For example with the M249 SAW, it claims SAW stands for Squad Assault Weapon when it infact stands for Squad Automatic Weapon. Plus the Rate of Fire is wrong it can be varied from 700-1150 rounds/min dependant on the gas settings. [[User:Antimerc191]]

I noticed another error, it could have been a simple spelling error, but in the Degtyarev RPD section, Degtyarev was spelled Degtyarov. I don't know if it has anything to do with the problems on this page, but I straightened that one out.- [[User:TheDon152]]

==Screenshots==
I have a lot of shots for the page and will upload them tommorow. -GM

I've got a crapload of good real pictures for a lot of the guns, but I don't have any clue as to how to upload them, so, for anyone that can, email me at r1c0ch37@gmail.com

Talk:Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

2008-12-30T18:43:05Z

TheDon152:

Ah, goddamnit. I wanted to do this.
Well, maybe i can make it up to IMFDB standards sometime, just '''DON'T''' do Half-Life 2. - [[User:Flying Dane|Flying Dane]]

What the '''FUCK?!''', i actually made this article good a few months ago, i worked a whole fucking day on this and then you unregistered '''CUNT''' come in here and shit on everything! I know it's just a IMFDB article, but Jesus Teabagging Christ, you just don't come in some place and shit all over someone's work. BTW, if Bunni, Sysop or Orca are looking at this, and think i'm being a little harsh, then think if someone did this to your gigantic article with images and screenshots, i'm sure you'd be pretty pissed too. Oh yeah, to you, the guy who fucked this up: Kindly piss off. - [[User:Flying Dane]]

It was a well made article, but all that work that was done on it was lost in the server crash a few weeks ago. I don't blame you for being mad, it was the best videogame article here.
[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

Oh, well, sorry for the flip out. I thought some guy just deleted the whole thing. - [[User:Flying Dane]]

There are various Errors with it, For example with the M249 SAW, it claims SAW stands for Squad Assault Weapon when it infact stands for Squad Automatic Weapon. Plus the Rate of Fire is wrong it can be varied from 700-1150 rounds/min dependant on the gas settings. [[User:Antimerc191]]

I noticed another error, it could have been a simple spelling error, but in the Degtyarev RPD section, Degtyarev was spelled Degtyarov. I don't know if it has anything to do with the problems on this page, but I straightened that one out.-TheDon152

==Screenshots==
I have a lot of shots for the page and will upload them tommorow. -GM

I've got a crapload of good real pictures for a lot of the guns, but I don't have any clue as to how to upload them, so, for anyone that can, email me at r1c0ch37@gmail.com

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

2008-12-30T18:40:26Z

TheDon152: /* Degtyarov RPD */

The Following weapons appear in this game:
[[Image:COD4.jpg|right|400px|thumb|''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]'' (2007)]]

'''WARNING: Major plot spoilers in some of the weapon descriptions.'''

== Beretta M9 ==

The [[Beretta M92F|Beretta M9]] appears in the game, and is used by Sgt. Paul Jackson and many of the Marines and enemies as their standard sidearm. It is a relatively weak pistol, but has the highest magazine capacity of 15 rounds of 9mm and the lowest recoil allowing quick follow up shots. A sound suppressed version can be used in multiplayer.
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta M9 9mm]]
[[Image:COD4M9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Picture description of M9 pistol ingame.]]
[[Image:COD4M9-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier in mulitplayer during last stand mode with a suppressed M9 pistol. Also note Glock pistol in symbol.]]

==Heckler & Koch USP45==

The [[Heckler & Koch USP|H&K UPS45]] is seen in game as the sidearm of Sgt. "Soap" McTavish and many other SAS soldiers in the game. It has a underbarrel flashlight that is unused in the game. It uses .45 ACP rounds in a 12 round magazine. It's recoil, capacity and stopping power make this gun the most balanced in classes, being slightly more powerful than the M9, but not as powerful as the M1911A1 or Desert Eagle. It is incorrectly seen fitted with a SOCOM Mk. 23 Mod 0 laser/flashlight but it is clearly a USP and ''not'' a SOCOM. It has a USP safety, and several other feattures that are different from a Mk. 23.
[[Image:HK-USP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch USP45 - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:COD4USP45.jpg|thumb|none|400px|USP45 picture description ingame.]]

== Springfield Armory Professional 1911 ==

A version of the 1911 makes an appearance in game as the "M1911 .45." Though no one knows what it's specifically modeled after, the gun that it resembles most is a Springfield Armory Professional model (as opposed to the aforementioned Kimber and MEU (SOC) pistols) Features like the stainless steel barrel and bushing, Novak sights and match grade trigger separate it from the Kimber and MEU SOC which do not have these. It is used in game by Sergeant "Soap" MacTavish, Captain Price, and Sergeant Paul Jackson as a sidearm in several levels, by Viktor Zakhaev to commit suicide, and is unlockable in the multiplayer mode. It is also the gun slid to "Soap" in the final level by Price, used to take out Imran Zakhaev and his henchmen. Another stainless version is used by Staff Sergeant Griggs in the final level when tugging Soap to cover.
[[Image:SAPro.jpg|thumb|360px|none|The Springfield Armory Professional 1911. Note the similarities as opposed to the lack thereof on the other claimed models.]]
[[Image:CoD41911.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The M1911A1 .45 in game.]]
[[Image:COd4SW1911.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier holding a silenced Springfield Armory Professional M1911A1 in multiplayer.]]
[[Image:COD4Sw1911-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier firing an SA Pro M1911A1 during multiplayer.]]

==Glock==
Not officialy used in the game but is used in the Last Stand symbol

== IMI Desert Eagle ==

The [[Desert Eagle]] appears in this game and is the most powerful pistol holding 7 shots but having the most recoil. Two of the main villains, Khaled Al-Asad, and Imran Zakhaev, carry this pistol as their weapon of choice. Al-Asad uses his to kill President Al-Fulahni on TV. In single-player it is only usable once on the level "Crew Expendable" when a man with two of them jumps you on the ship. In split screen multilayer, it is a usable sidearm. However, it is locked in online multilayer until the player reaches the high rank of brigadier general. In competition gaming the Desert Eagle is almost unanimously the preferred pistol for its power and accuracy.

[[Image:DesertEagle50AE.jpg|thumb|none|360px|IMI Desert Eagle .50 Action Express.]]
[[Image:COD4DesertEagle-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Al-Asad executes Al-Fulahni with his Desert Eagle.]]
[[Image:COD4DesertEagle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier in mulitplayer armed with a Desert Eagle.]]

== Winchester M1200 ==

The [[Winchester 1200]] appears in this game as the "W1200" and is used by some of the Marines and many enemies throughout the game. Gaz pulls out a Model 1200 in the "Crew Expendable" level, saying he likes to keep it "for close encounters". It is powerful at close range, but is slow to reload. Lt.Vasquez carries one without the stock on his back although he never uses it.

[[Image:WinM1200.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Heavily Modified Winchester 1200, used by the Marine Corps]]
[[Image:COD4W1200.jpg|thumb|none|400px|W1200 picture description ingame.]]
[[Image:COD4W1200-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier in mulitplayer armed with a W1200.]]
[[Image:COD4W1200-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier in multiplayer firing his W1200.]]

== Benelli M4 Super 90 ==

The [[Benelli M4 Super 90]] appears in this game as the "M1014", and has a higher rate of fire than the W1200, but in multiplayer, has a lower magazine capacity, and like the W1200, has a slow reload time. It is used by some Marines and by Soap McTavish in the "Safehouse" level.

[[Image:Benelli m4 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Benelli M4 Super 90 12 gauge]]

== CZ Skorpion SA ==

The [[Skorpion SA]] appears in this game, and is used by some enemies. High short-range damage and an extreme rate of fire makes it effective up close, although it is hindered by a slow reload, low capacity of 20 .32 ACP rounds, and weak long-range damage. The weapon also has very little muzzle climb, and due to an early glitch in multiplayer whereby damage did not decrease when silenced, the weapon has been banned from all major competitive leagues.

[[Image:Skorpion-Sa.jpg|thumb|none|400px|CZ Skorpion SA .32 ACP]]
[[Image:COD4Skorpion.jpg|thumb|none|400px|CZ Skorpion as used ingame.]]

== IMI Mini Uzi 9mm ==

The [[Uzi|Mini Uzi]] appears in this game, and is also used by many enemies. Modeled with weaker damage, it fires 9mm rounds from a 32 round magazine at a high rate of fire. The high rate of fire with bouncing recoil leaves its accuracy poor for all but the shortest ranges. Zakhaev's son uses one while escorting Al-Fulahni to his execution, and while running from Soap, Griggs and Gaz right up until the end.

[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Mini Uzi SMG with stock folded - 9mm]]
[[Image:COD4Miniuzi.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mini Uzi picture description ingame.]]
[[Image:COD4Miniuzi-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Zakhaev's son armed with a Mini Uzi while driving Al-Fulahni to his execution.]]
[[Image:COD4Miniuzi-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier armed with a Mini Uzi in multiplayer.]]
[[Image:COd4Miniuzi-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier firing a Mini Uzi in multiplayer.]]

== H&K MP5 & SD ==

The [[Heckler & Koch MP5|H&K MP5A3]] appears in this game and is used by Sgt. "Soap" McTavish (the player) and some of the SAS Operatives, and is also used by some of the enemies. The [[Heckler & Koch MP5|H&K MP5SD]] is also wielded by the player and some SAS Operatives in the prologue and epilogue levels. The SD model is fitted with a sound suppresor. The MP5 fires 9mm rounds from a 30 round magazine, while curiously it is attributed greater damage than the 9mm Uzi. Accurate and powerful in the game, it is a popular all-around weapon in multiplayer especially.

-The barrel in the MP5 is longer so the round exits the muzzle at a higher velocity.

[[Image:MP5A3 StockCollapsed.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP5A3 9mm(as close depicted to ingame gun)]]
[[Image:MP5SD3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP5SD3 with integrated sound suppressor 9mm]]
[[Image:COD4MP5-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier seen in the Killcam firing an MP5A3 in multiplayer.]]
[[Image:COd4MP5-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier armed with an MP5A3 in multiplayer.]]
[[Image:COD4MP5SD-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Soap" McTavish armed with an MP5SD3 during the "Crew Expendable" single player level.]]
[[Image:COd4MP5SD-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An SAS operative armed with an MP5SD3 during the "Crew Expendable" level.]]

==PPSH==

Although never seen or used in-game, many of the statues throughout the games's campaign and multiplayer levels hold a cement version of the Russian PPSH.

== AKS74U ==

Like the P90, the Ak-74u is a sub-machine gun in name only. Firing 5.45x39mm intermediate rifle rounds, the Ak-74u is more accurately described as a miniature carbine. However, Call of Duty 4 does give it an attribute reflecting the nature of its rifle heritage. While it handles like the other SMGS, and its damage is modeled as equivalent to the H&K MP5, the Ak-74u can penetrate walls and other cover like the assault rifle class. None of the other SMGs have this advantage. With decent power and accuracy, the Ak-74u is an effective close and medium range weapon, with even-handling recoil and a high rate of fire from its 30-round magazine. In Campaign mode, it is mostly seen being used by Al Assad's forces in the Middle East and has a slower rate of fire than in multiplayer.

[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

== FN P90 TR ==

The [[FN P90 TR]], a version of the P90 with three accessory rails appears in the game, and is a rarely seen weapon (it is occasionally used by some of the enemies). Its sole "special" appearance is in "All Ghillied Up" as the P90SD (with suppressor and red dot sight), while in "Heat" and the epilogue mission "Mile High Club" it is simply the P90, unsuppressed and using open rail iron sights. In all versions it fires 5.7x28mm rounds from a 50-round magazine. As with its real world counterpart, the P90 is modeled with relatively weak per-hit damage and mediocre accuracy, but relies on a high rate of fire and large magazine capacity for its effectiveness. The weapon is easy to wield in multiplayer, so much so that it has been restricted in competitive play due to its "spray" advantage over other weapons.
[[Image:P90TR.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|FN P90 TR 5.7x28mm, Notably without the Laser pointer or Iron sights]]

== M16A4 ==

The [[M16 rifle series#M16A4|M16A4]] appears in the game, used by many of the US Marines. One of the characters, Lt. Vasquez, who is Sgt. Jackson's commander in the US levels, carries an M16A4/M203 combo as his weapon of choice. Modeled as full-auto, which would really be an M16A3, in the single-player mode, it fires 5.56mm NATO from a 30 round magazine. In-game, the M16A4 is attributed the same damage as the AK-47 and G3, despite the real weapon having far from the energy of either. In multiplayer, it is modeled accurately as an M16A4, firing a very quick three round burst, but with a slight pause between bursts. This makes an on-target salvo from the M16 very effective, but also makes misses much more costly, especially in close-quarters when pitted against full-auto weapons.

:After playing single player missions again, I checked both verisons of the M16s you pick up, the one with full rail covers and the one with the 203 on it. They both have the removable carrying handle. so it's gotta be an A4 because of the carrying handle. So the multiplayer verison is the accurate one.

The A4 is the only model with a removable carrying handle, the A3 having a removable carrying handle is a common misconception.
:So what do you call the single player M16? It has a removable carrying handle like the A4, but it fires in full auto.
Simple, it's an A3 with an A4 upper.

[[Image:M16A4Standard.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A4 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:COD4M16A4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A4 with ingame description, innaccurately describing semi-automatic fire as burst fire.]]
[[Image:COd4M4A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A custom M16A4 with C-more sight in mulitplayer.]]
[[Image:COD4M4A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier during the level "War Pig" firing his M16A4.]]
[[Image:COD4M16A4-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier armed with an M16A4 in multiplayer fitted with an M203 launcher, nicknamed the "noob-tube" because new players tend to use it to get out of situations too difficult for them.]]
[[Image:COD4M16A4-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier firing an M16A4 in multiplayer.]]
[[Image:COD4M16A4-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|U.S. soldiers armed with M16A4 rifles during the "War Pig" level, which when dropped or seen in the hands of other soldiers ingame turns into an M16A1 rifle instead.]]

== AK-47 ==

The [[AK-47]] appears in the game, and is used by most of the enemies and allied Russian soldiers. It fires 7.62x39mm rounds in a 30 round magazine. Some of them have [[GP-25 Kostyor]] 40mm muzzle loaded Grenade Launchers mounted on them. They feature a similar detonation safety as the M203 rounds meaning they are not recommended for close quarters. It is powerful and some-what accurate and is the equivalent to the M16 rifle. Online and especially in the competitive leagues, the AK-47 has become an established favorite for many of the same reasons it has in the real world; it is powerful and flexible, offering dependable performance in nearly every situation.

[[Image:AK-47.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AK-47 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:COD4AK-47.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AK-47 description ingame.]]
[[Image:COD4AK-47-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Russian Ultranationalist armed with an AK-47 during the level "Heat".]]

I actually think it's an AKM, judging by the two strengthening ribs on top of the weapon. It doesn't have the slant muzzle brake though, it's kinda weird.

== AKS-74 ==

Although not seen or used in the game, in some levels as Sgt. "Soap" MacTavish, there are posters on walls giving the details of an AKS-74 assault rifle (mistaken for an AKM).

== M4A1 Carbine ==

The [[M16 rifle series#M4 Carbine|M4A1 Carbine]] appears in the multi-player game with iron sights (which can be replaced with a red dot sight or ACOG scope), but appears in the single-player game only in three specialized versions:
1. The "normal" M4A1, used by the U.S. Marines in their missions and Soap in the final mission of the story with a Tasco red dot scope (exclusive to those missions) and forward handgrip (with no statistical effect unlike the multiplayer attachment for shotguns and machine guns),
2. the M4A1 Grenadier, which uses a EOTech Holographic Weapon Sight (exclusive to "The Bog," "War Pig," and "Shock and Awe" single-player missions) and M203 grenade launcher,
3. and the M4A1 SOPMOD, used by the SAS with a red dot sight (the one used in multi-player), a suppressor, and the M203 grenade launcher. This is slightly inaccurate, as the actual SAS uses the Canadian C8SFW, a similar weapon to the M4.

The M4A1 is a fully automatic firing carbine version of the M16 rifle and being such is modeled to have quicker but less accurate and stable handling. While damage can be expected to be lower due to a shorter barrel, the game exaggerates this difference, modeling similar damage characteristics as the Uzi and P90. This may have been intended to reflect the nature of the carbine as a bridge between a battle rifle and an SMG/PDW.

[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:COD4M4A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M4A1 description ingame.]]
[[Image:COD4M4A1-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cpt. Price armed with an M4A1 during "Crew Expendable".]]
[[Image:COD4M4A1-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A U.S. Soldier armed with an M4A1 outfitted with EOTech sight and M203A1 launcher.]]
[[Image:COD4M4A1-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Soap" McTavish armed with an M4A1 fitted with a generic red dot sight, sound suppressor and M203 launcher.]]
[[Image:COD4M4A1-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. Paul Jackson armed with an M4A1 with EOTech sight and M203A1 launcher during "The Bog".]]
[[Image:COD4M4A1-8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. Jackson with an M4A1 fitted with a Tasco scope and foregrip during "Charlie Don't Surf".]]

== H&K G3A4 ==

The [[Heckler & Koch G3|H&K G3A4]], noted by collapsing stock, and a normal length barrel, distinguishing it from the G3KA4 appears in this game and, like the AK-47, is used by many of the enemies in the game. It has full-auto function in single-player, but is reduced to semi-auto in multiplayer. The G3A4 fires 7.62x51mm NATO from a 20-round magazine. In the game, the damage from this round is made equivalent to both the AK-47 and M16A4 despite its real-world energy being much higher than either. The M14, which fires the same ammunition and is in the same class however, is correctly modeled as being more powerful than rifles firing intermediate cartridges such as the 5.56x45mm NATO or the 7.63.x39mm Soviet.

The in-game weapon correctly reflects the real-world high accuracy of the G3, but its recoil is made to be incredibly light, much milder even than the AK-47. It can be used quite effectively at long ranges, but being semi-auto in multiplayer requires a quickness on the trigger to be able to keep up with other weapons up close.

[[Image:G3A4.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|H&K G3A4 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:COD4G3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|G3KA4 as ingame.]]

== H&K G36 ==

The [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|H&K G36C]] appears in this game and is used by the SAS, the allied Russian soldiers in "Safehouse" and many enemies late in the game. It has a Tasco Laser Scope in single player and open sights in multiplayer. It comes with a 30 round 5.56mm magazine. It slightly heavier recoil and slower rate of fire than the M4, but much less sight sway. It is modeled with equal damage to the M4, reflecting its intermediate status as a compact assault-rifle carbine.
[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch G36C 5.56mm]]
[[Image:COD4G36C-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier armed with a G36C ingame.]]

== M1A Bush Rifle ==

The [[M14 Rifle]] appears in the game only in multiplayer, with a Knights Armaments RAS [Rail Adapter System] Fore end, an RAS scope mount, and heat shields on the side rails. It fires 7.62x51mm from a 20 round magazine, like the G3, but unlike the G3 is accurately portrayed as being significantly more powerful than the other assault rifles, and has a hefty recoil befitting the powerful cartridge.

It is also modified as a sniper rifle, the [[M21]]. Strangely, the M21 is a modified M14, although often with a smaller 10-round magazine, but have much different attributes in the game.
[[Image:M14Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M14 7.62x51mm]]

This weapon is actually a Springfield M1A Bush rifle with a synthetic stock. The difference between these is that the Bush rifle has a shorter barrel than the standard M14

== Sturmgewehr 44 ==

The [[Sturmgewehr 44]] appears in multiplayer only and is unlocked at a high rank. It was the first true assault rifle ever created firing a 7.92 Kurz round in a 30 round curved box magazine. It is powerful but inaccurate, has high recoil and actually weighs your character down [somewhat like Machineguns do]. It is in the game as an ode to the previous COD games which the gun was featured in.

[[Image:Sturmgewehr 44.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sturmgewehr 44(MP44) 7.92kurz]]

== M21 Sniper Rifle ==

The [[M14 Rifle#M21 Designated Marksman Rifle/M25 Sniper Rifle|M21 Sniper Rifle]] appears in this game in both suppressed ("M21 Suppressed") and unsuppressed versions. It is used by the SAS and Marine snipers. It is a top of the line M14 rifle fitted with a scope (and a RAS mount for that scope), Knights Armaments RAS (Rail Adapter System) Fore end, heat shields on the side rails, and a smaller 10 round magazine.

[[Image:M21 m1a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M21 Sniper Rifle 7.62x51mm NATO with folding bipod]]
[[Image:COD4M21-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M21 rifle ingame]]

== Remington Model 700PSS ==

The [[Remington 700#Remington Model 700PSS|Remington Model 700PSS]] appears in this game as the "R700", whilst it is very powerful, it has the shakiest in scope view. and frequently misses where it as actually shooting. Its heavy recoil also consumes time for a follow up shot. It is used by "Soap" McTavish in the single-player exclusively in the "Sins of the Father" mission, prior to the pursuit of Victor Zakhaev. It holds four rounds of .308 Winchester (7.62x51mm NATO). The caliber is determined based on the size of the bolt and breech. Oddly, the M40A3 also seen in game is very much the same weapon, although in the game they have slightly different attributes.

[[Image:Rem700.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington Model 700PSS 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:COD4Rem700-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington Model 700PSS in-game]]

== Dragunov SVD ==

The [[SVD Dragunov|Dragunov SVD]] appears in this game and is used by all enemy snipers in the game. It was designed in the 60s as a replacement in Russia for the outdated Mosin-Nagant rifle. It is well known for its power, precision, and reliability. It's design is mainly based on the AK-47, but is chambered in 7.62x54R(immed) cartridges for increased range and power. It's weight and recoil makes it difficult for some scenarios. It is recommended to any player common to the sniper rifle.

-It's control layout is similar to an AK, but the mechanism is very different.

[[Image:SVD Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SVD Dragunov sniper rifle - 7.6x54mm R]]
[[Image:COD4SVD-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SVD Dragunov rifle ingame.]]
[[Image:COD4SVD-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier armed with an SVD Dragunov ingame.]]

== M40 Sniper Rifle ==

The [[M40 sniper rifle]] appears in multiplayer only, and is similar in performance to the R700. It is accurate and maybe less powerful. It fires 5 .308 rounds.
[[Image:M40.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M40 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:M40A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M40A3, .308]]
[[Image:COD4M40A3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M40A3 rifle as ingame.]]

== Barrett M82 ==

The [[Barrett M82]] appears in the game, unlocked in multiplayer as a portable weapon and in a single player mission as a stationary weapon (with variable zoom and unlimited ammunition), and is the most powerful sniper rifle in the game. Lieutenant Price, in the single-player mission "One Shot, One Kill", uses the Barrett M82 to shoot Zakhaev's left arm off from a mile away. The rifle was first invented after soldiers were found needing more than a single-shot .50 caliber rifle and/or bolt action. This gun allows a skilled marksman to fire off 10 rounds in 10 seconds. It is extremely accurate at long distances, powerful enough to sever limbs[but this is rare] and shoot through walls. It fires .50 BMG ([12.7x99m]) rounds from a 10 round magazine. It's 30 pound weight proves a problem in combat and in usually more useful when stationary than running cross-country.

[[Image:M82A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Barrett M107 12.7x99mm(.50 BMG) ''The Barrett M82 does not have a full-length rail, the M107 does, the one in game is the M82A1'']]

== M249 SAW ==

The [[M249 SAW]] appears in the game, used by the ''US Marines'' and members of the ''SAS'' (which is an innaccuracy as the SAS would use the FN Minimi, not the american M249). The M249 fires 100 or 250 round belt boxes of 5.56x45mm rounds at a rate of 850 RPM. It's accuracy is moderate and power weak, but is great for support. The weapon itself replaced the use of two M16A2 rifles in the typical US Army squad adding supplemental automatic fire to the A2's 3 round burst hence the designation ''Squad Automatic Weapon''. Also the weapon can use M16 magazines, increasing its effectiveness.

[[Image:Fn m249saw mk2 10-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M249 SAW(Squad Automatic Weapon) 5.56x45mm(note heat shield over barrel and bent, finger grooved handle. The FN Minimi lacks these feattures and has a straight 90 degree handle.)]]
[[Image:COD4MSAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M249 SAW as used ingame.]]
[[Image:COD4MSAW-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier armed with an M249 SAW in multiplayer.]]
[[Image:COD4MSAW-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier aiming down the sights on an M249 SAW in multiplayer.]]

== Degtyarev RPD ==

The Degtyarev [[RPD Light Machine Gun]] appears in the game, and is the LMG used by the enemies in the game. It fires 7.62x39mm rounds from a 100 round belt box. It is loud, accurate, and intimidating. After a long period of service it was replaced, in the 1960s, by the [[RPK light machine gun]] which was itself an evolution of the conventional Kalashnikov design.

[[Image:COD4RPD.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Degtyarov RPD 7.62x39mm (as seen ingame)]]
[[Image:COD4RPD-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An enemy soldier firing an RPD ingame.]]
[[Image:COd4RPD-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier firing an RPD in multiplayer. Note: The player is cheating and using an aim-bot, hence the squares outlining opposing players.]]

== M60E3 ==

The [[M60 machine gun|M60E3]] appears in the "Last Stand" at the end of the game used by one of the soldiers accompanying Zakhaev, and usable in the last level if you kill the first driver pulling up to the destroyed bridge. He jumps out armed with one ready for your use and for some reason the single player version fires faster than the one in multiplayer. It is also more common in multiplayer. It fires .308 rounds from a 100 round belt box. The M60 was first used in Vietnam and had several problems. The M60E1's barrel overheated quickly requiring frequent changes, and the removal of the barrel required some disassembly of the weapon. The barrel had no way to remove it except to grab directly to the barrel(which would be most likely red hot). It also was somewhat unreliable. (No soldiers were complaining though because they no longer had to lug their 30 lb. 1919s anymore.) The M60E2 was a mounted gun that was no different than the E1 in function. The M60E3 had a shortened barrel, a more reliable system, a foregrip, and an easy to remove barrel. Although the shorter barrel overheated even faster, the easy removal system made it less of a hassle. The game incorrectly refers to it as the M60E4, which has a much shorter barrel than the one featured on the E3.
[[Image:M60E3long.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|M60E3 7.62x51mm with the full length barrel.]]
[[Image:COD4M60E4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60E3 as ingame.]]

== M18A1 Claymore Mine ==

The [[M18A1 Claymore|M18A1 Claymore Mine]] appears as a weapon the player can set for ambushing enemies. The claymore is directional, firing 100s of steel balls forward at the victim, killing whatever steps in front of it. (Hence stamp on side back saying "BACK" and front side saying "FRONT TOWARDS ENEMY".)

[[Image:M18A1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M18A1 direction Claymore Mine]]

== GE M134 Minigun ==

The [[GE M134 Minigun]] appears as a player-usable stationary weapon mounted on a downed helicopter in "Heat" and is used by a door gunner on a Blackhawk in both the prologue level and in "The Sins of The Father" level. The minigun holds the world record for cyclic rate in a weapon using an functioning action (Metal storm holds the new title for non-function as all rounds are fired at once in stacks). It fires at a rate ranging from 3000-6000 RPM depending on model. It fires either .308(7.62x51mm) or .223(5.56x45mm) also depending on model.

[[Image:Minigun.jpg|thumb|none|300px|GE M134 Minigun]]

''It should be noted that in the game, when "Soap" is covering his unit's withdrawal using the minigun in the crashed Blackhawk, the weapon should not be working. When mounted on an aircraft the weapon is hooked into the aircraft's electrical system otherwise it would require a large external battery. It might actually have been probable, if the helicopter had only crashed an hour or two before the minigun was used. However, that's assuming that the crash didn't damage the battery''

==FGM-148 Javelin==
The [[FGM-148 Javelin]] anti-tank guided missile launcher is used in the single-player missions "The Bog" and "Heat" to destroy enemy tanks; it is single-shot, requires a lock-on to fire and can only lock onto (and thus fire at) those tanks, but in-game these units holds unlimited missiles.

[[Image:Javalin.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FGM-148 Javelin]]

== Mk 19 40mm grenade launcher ==
The [[Mk 19 grenade launcher]] appears as a player usable weapon mounted on a CH-46 Sea Knight helicopter. It was first developed in Vietnam and fires 40mm grenades off of a belt link. It overheated very rapidly though and is recommended for use in single shots.

[[Image:MK19-02.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mk 19 40mm]]

== FIM-92 Stinger Missile Launcher ==
This weapon is useable in the single-player campaign as an SAS operative. Its used by Sergeant "Soap" McTavish to shoot down an enemy helicopter.
[[Image:Stinger.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FIM-92 Stinger Missile Launcher]]

== RPG-7 Rocket Propelled Grenade Launcher ==
The [[RPG-7]] is commonly seen in enemy hands and can be used by the player ingame.
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPG-7 - 70mm]]
[[Image:COD4RPG-7-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Russian Ultranationalist with an RPG-7 ingame.]]
[[Image:COD4RPG-7-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier firing an RPG-7 in multiplayer.]]
[[Image:COd4RPG-7-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier fires an RPG-7 in multiplayer.]]
[[Image:COD4RPG-7-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier reloads an RPG-7 in multiplayer.]]

== RPG-27 Rocket Propelled Grenade Launcher ==
The [[RPG-27]] is seen strapped to the packs of several terrorist.

== M136 AT4 ==
Some Marine NPCs have [[M136 AT4]] strapped to their packs. It cannot be used in game, but was originally intended to be.
[[Image:AT-4Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M136 AT4 84mm]]

== M67 Frag Grenade ==
The frag grenades seen in game.

[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|250px|M67 Hand Grenade]]

==M203/A1/PI==
All three incarnations of the M203 Grenade launcher are used in game

The M203 is only seen on the M16A4, Notable by the longer barrel

The M203A1 is seen on the M4A1 only, notable by still being of the larger persuasion, but with a shorter barrel

The M203PI Is seen used on all other assault rifles [Except the AK-47], it is much smaller, and has a short barrel, designed for being mounted on other weapons

==GP-25==
The GP-25 Is seen on the AK-47 only, while it is 40mm, it is seen as being able to use the same rounds as the M203s, which it cannot. One is also seen mounted on an AK-74U in the armory in the tutorial.

This could be remedied easily as putting the M203PI on the AK-47.

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'''The following guns were used in the film ''[[The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor]]'''''
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==Thompson M1928==

Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) can be seen using the [[Thompson]] in the Himalayas in a gunfight with General Yang's soldiers. The script has him say that the box magazines have 25 rounds, despite there are only 20 and 30 round box magazines. He was correct with his 50 round drum. It jammed on him in the middle of the fight, which pissed Rick off that his son, Alex, was correct. We never see him reload to the box magazine, but from watching, he spent the 50 round drum too fast.

[[Image:M1928.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1928 "Tommy Gun" .45 ACP, made famous through countless classic gangster movies.]]
[[Image:Ign6.jpg|thumb|none|300px| Rick O' Connell ([[Brendan Fraser]]) armed with a [[Thompson]] along side his wife and brother in-law.]]
[[Image:TommyHPMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Let's give them a warm O'Connell Welcome."]]

==PPS-43==

Alex O' Connell ([[Luke Ford]]) arms himself with the PPS-43 sub-machine gun during the battle with Yang's soldiers in the Himalayas. Alex refered to it as a "personal assault weapon"

[[Image:Ppsh43PISTOL.jpg|thumb|300px|none| Soviet PPS-43 7.62x25mm Tokarev Sub-Machine Gun.]]
[[Image:1133.JPG|thumb|none|300px| Alex ([[Luke Ford]]) fires the soviet PPS-43 SMG.]]

==PPSh 41==

Alex ([[Luke Ford]]) passes this weapon off to Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) near the end of the battle shortly before they go after the Emperor. Alex can also be seen firing it off the back of the motorcycle at General Yang's soldiers while Rick drives.

[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg‎|thumb|300px|none|Soviet PPSh-41 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev.]]

[[Image:PPSHHPMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ppsh2Mummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Remington model 8==

This rifle with scope and silencer in disassembled condition can be seen in the weapon box of Alex O'Connel.

[[Image:Remington_model_8.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Remington model 8 rifle.]]
[[Image:Remington_8.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

==Norinco Type 54==
[[Image:NorincoType54-9mm.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Norinco Type 54 Model 213 - 9mm.]]

General Yang uses a Type 54 pistol as his weapon throughout the film. This is an anachronism because the Chinese did not start manufacturing the Type 54 until the 1950s as the film is set in 1946.

==Chinese Type 56 SKS Rifle==

Several SKS semi-automatic rifles can be seen in the hands of General Yang's men throughout the film.

[[Image:SKS Flickr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SKS rifle 7.62x39mm with bayonet folded.]]
[[Image:SKSMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:SKSMummy3b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Sten Mk.II==

The 9mm Sten Mk. II Sub-Machine gun can be seen in the hands of Rick during the undead battle near the end of the film.

[[Image:Unitsten2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
[[Image:Film BrendanMaria.jpg|thumb|none|300px| Rick armed with the [[Sten]] along side Evelyn.]]
[[Image:StenMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:StenMummy3b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Bren Mk.1==

Jonathan Carnahan ([[John Hannah]]) can be seen firing this machine gun from Mad Dog Maguire's plane.

[[Image:Bren_mk2.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Bren machine gun.]]

==Browning M1919==

This mounted machine gun can be seen in the back of General Yang's vehicle being fired by a soldier at Rick and Alex as they escape on a motorcycle.

[[Image:M1919A4Browning.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Browning M1919 .30-06 on M2 tripod.]]
[[Image:M1919SMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Winchester Model 12==

Rick can be seen using this sawed off pistol gripped pump shotgun in the third Mummy film after taking it off the dead body of one of General Yang's soldiers in the gunfight in the Himalayas, Rick uses it to shoot a few of the soldiers and to fire at the Emperor to no avail.

[[Image:Mummyshotty.JPG|thumb|none|300px|Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) armed with a [[Winchester Model 1912]] with a sawed-off stock and barrel.]]

==M1911==

Rick O' Connell carries [[M1911]] pistols in the film and uses them on a few occasions, specifically in the Himalayas gunbattle and on the Emperor's Terra Cotta warriors during the undead battle near the end. General Yang carries a [[M1911]] as a sidearm and uses it on several occassions to threaten or shoot at the heroes. [[M1911]] Pistols can be seen in the hands of various other characters throughout the film.

[[Image:1911_1.jpg‎|thumb|300px|none|US 1911 Pistol, .45 ACP, in its first version (WWI Era).]]

[[Image:1911Mummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Browning Hi-Power==

Evelyn can be seen using a pair of [[Browning Hi-Power]] pistols in the film. Alex also uses a couple in the film, as well as Roger Wilson who uses it to threaten the O' Connells and shoot at the assassin in the Emperor's Tomb in an early scene. Alex also keeps a pair in his weapons trunk next to his Walther P38s.

[[Image:Browning HP West German Police.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Browning Hi-Power 9mm.]]
[[Image:The mummy 3 59.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Evelyn O' Connell ([[Maria Bello]]) with two [[Browning Hi-Power]] pistols.]]

[[Image:browningHPMummy3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:browningHPMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:browningHPMummy3b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"What? Did you rob an armory on your way here?"]]

==Walther P38==

Alex briefly pulls the [[Walther P38]] from his gun chest and shows the firearm to Rick as the father and son compare weapon choices.

[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther P38 9mm.]]
[[Image:P38Mummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Smith & Wesson Military & Police==

Rick carries a pair of these Smith & Wesson revolvers early in the film and brandishes them when the Emperor is awakened, firing multiple shots at him and then using them briefly on the streets of ShangHai before losing them.

[[Image:SmithWesson10-5.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Smith & Wesson Model Military & Police .38 Special.]]
[[Image:M3S&WMP.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:110907 i2.jpg|thumb|300px|none| Rick O' Connell ([[Brendan Fraser]]) wields a pair of Smith & Wesson Military & Police revolvers in the third Mummy.]]
[[Image:110907 i11.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The Smith & Wesson Military & Police can be seen in the background as the gun second from the top.]]

==Webley Mk. VI==

The [[Webley Mk VI]] revolver can be seen briefly in the hands of Jonathan in the Himilayas gunfight scene but he never fires it.

[[Image:Webley.JPG|thumb|none|300px|Webley Mk VI .455 Webley.]]
[[Image:110907 i11.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The Webley Mk VI can be seen in the background as the top gun in the case.]]

==Colt 1873 Single Action Army==

Rick early on uses this weapon as an effective method to catch fish after getting frustrated while learning to fly fish back in England. He later shows this revolver to Alex when the two of them are comparing weapon choices. He also uses it to fire a few shots on the Emperor.

[[Image:Colt_saa4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Colt Single Action Army]] .45 Long Colt.]]
[[Image:110907 i11.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A 5 1/2" Colt SAA can be seen in the background as the gun to the bottom.]]
[[Image:SAAMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Peacekeeper]]

==Winchester Model 1897==

The [[Winchester Model 1897]] shotgun can be seen in the weapon box of Rick O'Connell but he never fires it.

[[Image:1897.jpg|thumb|none|320px|Winchester Model 1897 12 guage militarized.]]
[[Image:Weapon_Box_Rick.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Winchester Model 1897 can be seen as the left gun in the case.]]

==Winchester Model 1887==

The [[Winchester Model 1887]] shotgun can be seen in the weapon box of Rick O'Connell but he never fires it.

[[Image:M1887 Airsoft.jpg|thumb|300px|left|Replica Winchester Model 1887 with sawed-off stock and barrel as used in ''[[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]]''.]]
[[Image:Weapon_Box_Rick.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Winchester Model 1887 can be seen as the right gun in the case.]]

==Colt Detective Special==

Evy ([[Maria Bello]]) briefly uses a [[Colt Detective Special]] snub nose revolver that Rick kicks to her to fire at the newly awakened Emperor in the Shanghai Museum.

[[Image:Colt_Detective_Special.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Colt Detective Special.]]
[[Image:Colt-Eve.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|400px|Eve fires with a Colt Detectiv Special.]]

==Winchester Model 1894==

Evy ([[Maria Bello]]) uses this 30-30 lever-action rifle as her weapon of choice to fend of General Yang's soldiers in the Himalayas.

[[Image:Winchester_Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Winchester Model 1894.]]
[[Image:110907 i3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The Winchester Model 1894 can be seen in the hands of Evy ([[Maria Bello]]) in the foreground.]]

==Type Zhongzheng rifle==

These bolt-action rifles also known as the "Chiang Kai-shek Rifle" and "Type 24" is carried and used by General Yang's soldiers throughout the film. The Type Zhongzheng rifle is a licenced, Chinese copy of the Mauser Standard Modell rifle, the forerunner to the Mauser [[Karabiner 98k]] rifle, and was used extensively by both Nationalist and Communist forces during the Chinese Civil War in the 1940s.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm]]

''NOTE: This picutre of the Kar98k is a "stand-in" until somebody can find and post a picture of the Type Zhongzheng rifle''

==M9 Bazooka==

General Yang's men can be seen firing M9 Bazookas in the film.

[[Image:M9bazooka.JPG|thumb|none|300px|M9 Bazooka.]]
[[Image:Mummyrpcklets.JPG|thumb|none|300px|]]
[[Image:BazookaMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:BazookaMummy3b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Mk.II grenade==

Rick O' Connell ([[Brendan Fraser]]) can be seen throwing at least one grenade during the battle scene, grenades are also used by Alex ([[Luke Ford]]) and possibly some of General Yang's soldiers.

==Unknown Weapons==

Two unclassified sawed-off shotguns can bee seen in weapon box of Rick O'Connel.

[[Image:Weapon_Box_2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two unclassified sawed-off shotguns can bee seen on the bottom of weapon box.]]

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The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor

2008-12-30T14:41:30Z

TheDon152:

'''The following guns were used in the film ''[[The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor]]'''''
[[Image:M3poster1.jpg|300px|right|]]

==Thompson M1928==

Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) can be seen using the [[Thompson]] in the Himalayas in a gunfight with General Yang's soldiers. The script has him say that the box magazines have 25 rounds, despite there are only 20 and 30 round box magazines. He was correct with his 50 round drum. It jammed on him in the middle of the fight, which pissed Rick off that his son, Alex, was correct. We never see him reload to the box magazine, but from watching, he spent the 50 round drum too fast.

[[Image:M1928.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1928 "Tommy Gun" .45 ACP, made famous through countless classic gangster movies.]]
[[Image:Ign6.jpg|thumb|none|300px| Rick O' Connell ([[Brendan Fraser]]) armed with a [[Thompson]] along side his wife and brother in-law.]]
[[Image:TommyHPMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Let's give them a warm O'Connell Welcome."]]

==PPS-43==

Alex O' Connell ([[Luke Ford]]) arms himself with the PPS-43 sub-machine gun during the battle with Yang's soldiers in the Himalayas. Alex refered to it as a "personal assault weapon"

[[Image:Ppsh43PISTOL.jpg|thumb|300px|none| Soviet PPS-43 7.62x25mm Tokarev Sub-Machine Gun.]]
[[Image:1133.JPG|thumb|none|300px| Alex ([[Luke Ford]]) fires the soviet PPS-43 SMG.]]

==PPSh 41==

Alex ([[Luke Ford]]) passes this weapon off to Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) near the end of the battle shortly before they go after the Emperor. Alex can also be seen firing it off the back of the motorcycle at General Yang's soldiers while Rick drives.

[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg‎|thumb|300px|none|Soviet PPSh-41 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev.]]

[[Image:PPSHHPMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:ppsh2Mummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Remington model 8==

This rifle with scope and silencer in disassembled condition can be seen in the weapon box of Alex O'Connel.

[[Image:Remington_model_8.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Remington model 8 rifle.]]
[[Image:Remington_8.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

==Norinco Type 54==
[[Image:NorincoType54-9mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 54 Model 213 - 9mm.]]

General Yang uses a type 54 pistol as his weapon throughout the film. This is an anachronism because the Chinese did not start manufacturing the Type 54 until the 1950s as the film is set in 1946.

==Chinese Type 56 SKS Rifle==

Several SKS semi-automatic rifles can be seen in the hands of General Yang's men throughout the film.

[[Image:SKS Flickr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SKS rifle 7.62x39mm with bayonet folded.]]
[[Image:SKSMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:SKSMummy3b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Sten Mk.II==

The 9mm Sten Mk. II Sub-Machine gun can be seen in the hands of Rick during the undead battle near the end of the film.

[[Image:Unitsten2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]
[[Image:Film BrendanMaria.jpg|thumb|none|300px| Rick armed with the [[Sten]] along side Evelyn.]]
[[Image:StenMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:StenMummy3b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Bren Mk.1==

Jonathan Carnahan ([[John Hannah]]) can be seen firing this machine gun from Mad Dog Maguire's plane.

[[Image:Bren_mk2.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Bren machine gun.]]

==Browning M1919==

This mounted machine gun can be seen in the back of General Yang's vehicle being fired by a soldier at Rick and Alex as they escape on a motorcycle.

[[Image:M1919A4Browning.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Browning M1919 .30-06 on M2 tripod.]]
[[Image:M1919SMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Winchester Model 12==

Rick can be seen using this sawed off pistol gripped pump shotgun in the third Mummy film after taking it off the dead body of one of General Yang's soldiers in the gunfight in the Himalayas, Rick uses it to shoot a few of the soldiers and to fire at the Emperor to no avail.

[[Image:Mummyshotty.JPG|thumb|none|300px|Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) armed with a [[Winchester Model 1912]] with a sawed-off stock and barrel.]]

==M1911==

Rick O' Connell carries [[M1911]] pistols in the film and uses them on a few occasions, specifically in the Himalayas gunbattle and on the Emperor's Terra Cotta warriors during the undead battle near the end. General Yang carries a [[M1911]] as a sidearm and uses it on several occassions to threaten or shoot at the heroes. [[M1911]] Pistols can be seen in the hands of various other characters throughout the film.

[[Image:1911_1.jpg‎|thumb|300px|none|US 1911 Pistol, .45 ACP, in its first version (WWI Era).]]

[[Image:1911Mummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Browning Hi-Power==

Evelyn can be seen using a pair of [[Browning Hi-Power]] pistols in the film. Alex also uses a couple in the film, as well as Roger Wilson who uses it to threaten the O' Connells and shoot at the assassin in the Emperor's Tomb in an early scene. Alex also keeps a pair in his weapons trunk next to his Walther P38s.

[[Image:Browning HP West German Police.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Browning Hi-Power 9mm.]]
[[Image:The mummy 3 59.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Evelyn O' Connell ([[Maria Bello]]) with two [[Browning Hi-Power]] pistols.]]

[[Image:browningHPMummy3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:browningHPMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:browningHPMummy3b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"What? Did you rob an armory on your way here?"]]

==Walther P38==

Alex briefly pulls the [[Walther P38]] from his gun chest and shows the firearm to Rick as the father and son compare weapon choices.

[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther P38 9mm.]]
[[Image:P38Mummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Smith & Wesson Military & Police==

Rick carries a pair of these Smith & Wesson revolvers early in the film and brandishes them when the Emperor is awakened, firing multiple shots at him and then using them briefly on the streets of ShangHai before losing them.

[[Image:SmithWesson10-5.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Smith & Wesson Model Military & Police .38 Special.]]
[[Image:M3S&WMP.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:110907 i2.jpg|thumb|300px|none| Rick O' Connell ([[Brendan Fraser]]) wields a pair of Smith & Wesson Military & Police revolvers in the third Mummy.]]
[[Image:110907 i11.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The Smith & Wesson Military & Police can be seen in the background as the gun second from the top.]]

==Webley Mk. VI==

The [[Webley Mk VI]] revolver can be seen briefly in the hands of Jonathan in the Himilayas gunfight scene but he never fires it.

[[Image:Webley.JPG|thumb|none|300px|Webley Mk VI .455 Webley.]]
[[Image:110907 i11.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The Webley Mk VI can be seen in the background as the top gun in the case.]]

==Colt 1873 Single Action Army==

Rick early on uses this weapon as an effective method to catch fish after getting frustrated while learning to fly fish back in England. He later shows this revolver to Alex when the two of them are comparing weapon choices. He also uses it to fire a few shots on the Emperor.

[[Image:Colt_saa4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Colt Single Action Army]] .45 Long Colt.]]
[[Image:110907 i11.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A 5 1/2" Colt SAA can be seen in the background as the gun to the bottom.]]
[[Image:SAAMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Peacekeeper]]

==Winchester Model 1897==

The [[Winchester Model 1897]] shotgun can be seen in the weapon box of Rick O'Connell but he never fires it.

[[Image:1897.jpg|thumb|none|320px|Winchester Model 1897 12 guage militarized.]]
[[Image:Weapon_Box_Rick.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Winchester Model 1897 can be seen as the left gun in the case.]]

==Winchester Model 1887==

The [[Winchester Model 1887]] shotgun can be seen in the weapon box of Rick O'Connell but he never fires it.

[[Image:M1887 Airsoft.jpg|thumb|300px|left|Replica Winchester Model 1887 with sawed-off stock and barrel as used in ''[[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]]''.]]
[[Image:Weapon_Box_Rick.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Winchester Model 1887 can be seen as the right gun in the case.]]

==Colt Detective Special==

Evy ([[Maria Bello]]) briefly uses a [[Colt Detective Special]] snub nose revolver that Rick kicks to her to fire at the newly awakened Emperor in the Shanghai Museum.

[[Image:Colt_Detective_Special.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Colt Detective Special.]]
[[Image:Colt-Eve.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|400px|Eve fires with a Colt Detectiv Special.]]

==Winchester Model 1894==

Evy ([[Maria Bello]]) uses this 30-30 lever-action rifle as her weapon of choice to fend of General Yang's soldiers in the Himalayas.

[[Image:Winchester_Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Winchester Model 1894.]]
[[Image:110907 i3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|The Winchester Model 1894 can be seen in the hands of Evy ([[Maria Bello]]) in the foreground.]]

==Type Zhongzheng rifle==

These bolt-action rifles also known as the "Chiang Kai-shek Rifle" and "Type 24" is carried and used by General Yang's soldiers throughout the film. The Type Zhongzheng rifle is a licenced, Chinese copy of the Mauser Standard Modell rifle, the forerunner to the Mauser [[Karabiner 98k]] rifle, and was used extensively by both Nationalist and Communist forces during the Chinese Civil War in the 1940s.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm]]

''NOTE: This picutre of the Kar98k is a "stand-in" until somebody can find and post a picture of the Type Zhongzheng rifle''

==M9 Bazooka==

General Yang's men can be seen firing M9 Bazookas in the film.

[[Image:M9bazooka.JPG|thumb|none|300px|M9 Bazooka.]]
[[Image:Mummyrpcklets.JPG|thumb|none|300px|]]
[[Image:BazookaMummy3a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:BazookaMummy3b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==Mk.II grenade==

Rick O' Connell ([[Brendan Fraser]]) can be seen throwing at least one grenade during the battle scene, grenades are also used by Alex ([[Luke Ford]]) and possibly some of General Yang's soldiers.

==Unknown Weapons==

Two unclassified sawed-off shotguns can bee seen in weapon box of Rick O'Connel.

[[Image:Weapon_Box_2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two unclassified sawed-off shotguns can bee seen on the bottom of weapon box.]]

[[Category:Movie]]

The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

2008-12-25T00:38:46Z

TheDon152:

[[Category:Movie]]

The firearms used in te 2003 film ''The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen'' include the following...

==Lee-Enfield rifle==
Long Lee-Enfield rifles were used by British soldiers in their futile attempt to stop the tank breaking into the Bank of England at the beginning of the film. Long Lee-Enfield rifles would later be used by the Fantom's men in Berlin when they abducted the German scientists.

==Webley revolver==
Allan Quartermain ([[Sean Connery]]) uses a Webley revolver as his back-up firearm throughout the film.

==Tokarev TT-33==
A decorated Tokarev TT-33 pistol was used by Captain Nemo.

==Sten Mk.II submachine gun==
Captain Nemo's men are seen armed with decorated Sten Mk.II submachine guns in both Venice and at the Fantom/M's secret factory/hideout in Mongolia.

==AK-47==
AK-47 rifles were used as the basis for a number of automatic rifles used by the villans.

==Thompson submachine gun==
A number of Thompson submachine guns were used as the basis for a number of automatic rifles.

==Winchester Model 94 lever-action rifle==
Winchester Model 94 lever-action rifles were used by both Quartermain and Special Agent Tom Sawyer throughout the film.

==Artillery Luger P08==
Dorien used a gold plated Artillery Luger to kill one of Captain Nemo's men.

[[Category: Movie]]

Beretta M12

2008-12-23T15:24:37Z

TheDon152: /* Film */

'''The Beretta M12 has appeared in the following films and television series used by the following actors:'''
[[Image:Beretta_M12.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Beretta M12 9mm]]

=== Film ===

* Dr. Evil's henchmen in ''[[Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery]]''

* [[Chow Yun-Fat]] as Ah Jong and Triad members in ''[[The Killer]]''

* [[Richard Harris]], [[O.J. Simpson]] and NATO troopers in ''[[The Cassandra Crossing]]''

* [[Nils Allen Stewart]] as Orlando in ''[[The Mask]]''

* Feng's guards in ''[[Balls of Fury]]''

=== Television ===

* Numerous characters in ''[[The Unit]]''

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Rainbow Six: Raven Shield]]''

=== Anime ===

* ''[[Gunslinger Girl]]''

* ''[[Madness]]''
[[Category:Gun]] [[Category:Submachine Gun]]

AK-47

2008-12-23T15:22:56Z

TheDon152: /* Film */

'''The AK-47 and variants are used by the following actors in the following movies, television series, anime, and video games:'''

'''NOTE: Please keep in mind that while "AK-47" is often a catch-all term for 7.62x39mm Kalashnikov rifles, most so-called "AK-47s" in movies - particularly American movies - are actually either Egyptian Maadi ARM copies of the highly improved [[AK-47#AKM|AKM]], or variants of the Chinese [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56]]. Please check carefully to make sure that the rifle in question is a true AK-47 and not an AKM or a Chinese Type 56. When in doubt, it is probably safer to assume AKM or Type 56.'''

[[Image:AK-47.jpg|thumb|500px|right|Original AK-47 design, hybrid stamped/milled receiver; 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:Ak_54.jpg|thumb|500px|right|Milled Receiver AK-47 design; 7.62x39mm.]]
==Specifications==

'''Type:''' Assault Rifle

'''Caliber:''' 7.62x39mm

'''Capacity:''' 30, 40 round box magazines, and 75 round drum magazine.

'''Fire Modes:''' Safe/Full-Auto/Semi

== AK-47 ==

=== Film ===

* N.V.A. soldiers in ''[[We Were Soldiers]]''

* R.U.F. rebels, and [[Leonardo DiCaprio]] as Danny Archer in ''[[Blood Diamond]]''

* Hijackers,Terrorists in ''[[The Delta Force]]''

* Việt Cộng fighters in ''[[Apocalypse Now]]''

* NVA Border Guards in ''[[Escape from East Berlin]]''

* Terrorists fighters in ''[[Jarhead]]'' (footage taken from ''Apocalypse Now'')

* Việt Cộng fighters in ''[[A Better Tomorrow III]]''

* [[Waise Lee]] as Little Wing in ''[[Bullet in the Head]]''

* P.L.O.Terrorists, Ugandan Army soldiers, Israeli Commando in ''[[Raid On Entebbe]]''

* Soviet soldiers in ''[[Rocky IV]]''

* A Cameroon border guard in ''[[Tears of the Sun]]''

* Serbian soldier ''[[Behind Enemy Lines]]''

* African militia in ''[[Hitman]]''

* ANC fighters in ''[[Catch a Fire]]''

* Yuri Orlov ([[Nicolas Cage]]) in ''[[Lord of War]]''

* Ukrainian soldiers in ''[[Godzilla (1998)]]''

=== Television ===

* Somali militiamen in ''[[Seven Days]]'' (episode "The Fire Last Time")
* ''[[Tour of Duty]]''

* Iraqi insurgents in ''[[Over There]]''
=== Anime ===

* ''[[Trigun]]''

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[BLACK]]''

* ''[[The World Is Not Enough (video game)|The World Is Not Enough]]'' ''(as the "Soviet KA-57")''

* ''[[Grand Theft Auto 3]]''

* ''[[Grand Theft Auto IV]]''

* ''[[Half-Life: Counter-strike - HL: CS Condition Zero]]''

* ''[[Soldier of Fortune: Payback]]''

* ''[[Operation Flashpoint]]''

* ''[[24: The Game]]'' as the AZ7 Soviet.

* ''[[Blacksite: Area 51]]''

* ''[[Scarface: The World is Yours]]'' (can be upgraded with a [[Remington 870]] shotgun attachment.)

* ''[[Kill.Switch]]''

* ''[[Counter Strike: Source]]''

* ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]''

* ''[[Conflict: Desert Storm 2 Back to Baghdad]]''

* ''[[SOCOM: Combined Assault]]''

* ''[[Project I.G.I]]''

* ''[[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories]]''

* ''[[No One Lives Forever 2 : A Spy In HARM's Way]]''

* ''[[Army Of Two]]''

* ''[[Metal Gear Solid:Portable Ops]]''

* ''[[Rainbow Six: Vegas 2]]''

* ''[[Rainbow Six: Vegas]]''

* ''[[Insurgency]]''

== AKS-47 ==
[[Image:Aks47e.jpg|thumb|right|450px|AKS-47 7.62x39mm]]

=== Film ===

* Colombian terrorists in ''[[Toy Soldiers]]''

* [[Edward Norton]] as Steve in ''[[The Italian Job (2003)|The Italian Job]]''

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Timesplitters 2]]'' as the Soviet SV7.
Soldier of fortune

== AKM ==
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg‎|thumb|right|450px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:MaadiARM.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Maadi ARM - most of the AKMs seen in movies during the 1980s were imported ARMs that were legally converted to full auto fire. This image is of an actual movie gun. The laminated buttstock was replaced with a hardwood one when the original stock was broken during a stunt. This example is also loaded with a 30-round bakelite plastic magazine - 7.62x39mm]]

The improved version of the AK-47, featuring a number of refinements such as a stamped receiver (as opposed to the milled receiver of the original AK-47), a slant compensator on the tip of the barrel (to reduce recoil), an improved gas tube (without vents), and use of lighter materials to reduce weight and simplify construction.

Most of the AKMs seen in Hollywood movies are actually Egyptian Maadi MISR copies, which were sold in the U.S. as the ARM in the 1980s - such weapons were first procured by Stembridge Gun Rentals for ''[[Red Dawn]]'' and subsequently re-used in numerous other motion pictures. The Maadi is almost identical to the original Soviet-built AKM, save for the markings, and is nearly impossible to tell apart.

=== Film ===

* Soviet soldiers and the "Wolverines" in ''[[Red Dawn]]''

* A terrorist in ''[[The Siege]]''

* [[Reynaldo A. Gallegos]] as Tito Vargas in ''[[Bad Boys II]]''

* Crimson Jihad terrorists and [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] as Harry Tasker in ''[[True Lies]]''

* [[Tommy Lee Jones]] in ''[[The Park is Mine]]'' (with two magazines taped together 'jungle style', loaded with blanks and live rounds)

* Serbian soldiers and [[Owen Wilson]] as Lt. Chris Burnett in ''[[Behind Enemy Lines]]''

* Guerrillas in ''[[Predator]]''

* Libyan terrorists in ''[[Back to the Future]]''

* Afghan Mujahideen in ''[[The Beast of War]]''

* Cuban Army soliders in ''[[Bad Boys II]]''

* Colombian drug cartel henchmen in ''[[XXX]]''

* [[Clint Eastwood]] and various Cuban Soldiers in ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]''

* [[Mel Gibson]] as Detective Martin Riggs in ''[[Lethal Weapon 4]]''

* IRA terrorists in ''[[Patriot Games]]''

* A cartel member in ''[[A Man Apart]]''

* Used by Wild Seven in ''[[Battle Royale II: Requiem]]''

* Arcadia 234 inhabitants in ''[[Soldier]]'' (including one with an [[SVD Dragunov|Dragunov]]-esque stock)

* Escobedo's men in ''[[Clear and Present Danger]]''

* Nigerian militia fighters and refugees in ''[[Tears of the Sun]]''

* Lycans in ''[[Underworld]]''

* Iraqi soldiers, Shiite refugees, and the main protagonists of ''[[Three Kings]]''

* Bank robbers and gang members in ''[[S.W.A.T.]]'' ''(including two fitted with high-capacity drum magazines)''

* Rwandan Army soldiers in ''[[Hotel Rwanda]]''

* Sal's men in ''[[RoboCop]]''

*Arius' men in ''[[Commando]]''

* ''[[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]]''

* Vietnamese and Russian troops in ''[[Rambo: First Blood Part II]]''

* Mujahideen and the Russians in ''[[Rambo 3]]''

* Gang members in ''[[Escape from LA]]''

* resistance member in ''[[Equilibrium]]''

* Russians in ''[[Eraser]]''

* Johnny Wong's thugs in ''[[Hard Boiled]]''

* Guards in ''[[Air Force One]]''

* Burmese Junta Soldiers in ''[[Rambo (2008)]]''

* Thug in ''[[The Replacement Killers]]''

* ''[[Charlie Wilson's War]]''
=== Television ===

* Abu Fayed's men in ''[[24]]''

* Iraqi insurgents and soldiers in ''[[Over There]]''

* Rebels in a parallel universe in ''[[Doctor Who (New series)|Doctor Who]]''

* Terrorists in ''[[The Unit]]''

* [[Carl Ciarfalio]] as Hank Connors in ''[[CSI: Crime Scene Investigation]]'' (episode "Leapin' Lizards")

* ''[[Ultimate Force]]''

* ''[[The X-Files]]''

* ''[[The A-Team]]''
=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Uncharted: Drake's Fortune]]''

* ''[[Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops]]

* ''[[Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2]]''
== AKMS ==
[[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|right|450px|AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]]
Basically the same as the AKM, but the rear-trunion is altered with a swiveling mechanism to allow for the under-folding stock. The AKMS nomenclature also indicates that the rifle is not a milled receiver variant and has the AKM style of gas block, top cover, barrel assembly, front sight, and appropriate forearm furniture.

=== Film ===

* [[Claire Danes]] as Katherine Brewster and [[Nick Stahl]] as John Connor in ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]'' (with shortened barrel and dual-mag clamp)

* U.S. Navy SEALs in ''[[Navy SEALs]]''

* Soviet soldiers in ''[[The Beast of War]]''

* Colombian terrorists in ''[[Toy Soldiers]]''

* A bank robber in ''[[S.W.A.T.]]''

* Rwandan Army soldiers in ''[[Hotel Rwanda]]''

=== Television ===

* [[Kiefer Sutherland]] as Agent Jack Bauer in ''[[24]]''

* ''[[Tour of Duty]]''

*''[[Tremors: The Series]]''

== AKMSU ==
Chopped and shortened AKMS underfolder, made to resemble the [[AKS-74U]] except that it is still a 7.62x39mm gun.

''NOTE: The AKMSU manufactured by the Soviet Union featured an under-folding stock and a thumbhole grip under the barrel. Most of the so-called "AKMSU" carbines seen in Hollywood movies, such as ''[[A Man Apart]]'' and ''[[Bad Boys II]]'', are actually full-size AK variants that have been converted with Krinkov parts kits; many feature side-folding [[AKS-74U]]-style stocks that the real, Soviet-made AKMSU never had.''

[[Image:YugoKrinkov.jpg|thumb|right|300px|AKMSU 7.62x39mm]]

=== Film ===

* Haitian gang members and a Cuban Army soldier in ''[[Bad Boys II]]'' (the soldier using one with an [[AKS-74U]]-type folding stock)

* A Cartel member in ''[[A Man Apart]]''

* [[Philip Kwok]] as Mad Dog in ''[[Hard Boiled]]''

* Bodyguards in ''[[Ronin]]''

* [[Saki Sakurai]] as Wild Seven in ''[[Battle Royale II: Requiem]]''

* An Iraqi Officer in ''[[Three Kings]]''

* A militia fighter in ''[[Tears of the Sun]]''

=== Television ===

* ''[[CSI: Miami]]''

* Serbian soldiers in ''[[Seven Days]]''

==Norinco Type 56==
[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Norinco Type 56 (fixed stock variant) with under-folding bayonet - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Type56S.jpg‎|thumb|right|450px|Norinco Type 56-1 (under-folding stock variant) - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Type56-2.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Norinco Type 56-2 (side-folding stock variant) - 7.62x39mm]]

The Chinese Type 56 (manufactured by China North Industries Corporation, or Norinco) is by far the most commonly-seen AK derivative in Hollywood productions, both film and television. They are frequently seen impersonating Russian weapons in many films, since the Russians never sold a civilian AK model in the U.S. (or Europe) during the latter half of the 20th century. Most of the movie prop rental houses in Hollywood had dozens if not hundreds of Chinese AKs - mostly the Type 56s (7.62x39mm version) or the similar [[AK-47#Norinco Type 84S|Type 84s]] (5.56x45mm version). These were usually semi-automatic civilian versions (commonly designated "AK47S" or "AKS47" by the importers), in some cases converted to full-auto by Class III manufacturers.

There are three main variants of the Type 56 - the standard Type 56, which has a fixed stock, the Type 56-1, which has an under-folding stock, and the Type 56-2, which has a side-folding stock. Most fixed-stock Type 56 rifles have an under-folding spike bayonet, known as the "pig sticker"; this rifle is often seen in movies about the Vietnam War, and is correct for NVA throughout most of the conflict. The easiest way to tell when an AK-type rifle seen in a movie or TV show is a Chinese Type 56 is by looking at the front sight; Chinese AKs have a distinctive full-circle ("hooded") front sight that no other AKs (including those made in Russia) have.

=== Film ===

* Numerous N.V.A. and V.C. soldiers and fighters in ''[[Platoon]]''

* Russian & Janus soldiers, [[Sean Bean]] as Alec Trevelyan, [[Famke Janssen]] as Xenia Onatopp, and [[Pierce Brosnan]] as James Bond in ''[[Goldeneye]]'' (made to look like [[AK-74#AKS-74|AKS-74]]s)

* [[Danny Trejo]] as Trejo in ''[[Heat]]''

* Isla Los Organos guards and North Korean soldiers in ''[[Die Another Day]]''

* R.U.F. rebels, government soldiers, and [[Leonardo DiCaprio]] as Danny Archer in ''[[Blood Diamond]]''

* Somali militiamen in ''[[Black Hawk Down]]''

* Numerous characters including [[Nicolas Cage]] as Yuri Orlov in ''[[Lord of War]]''

* Crackhead in ''[[Hot Fuzz]]''

* Russian soldiers in ''[[Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull]]''

* Nomads in ''[[Flight of the Phoenix]]''

* North Korean soldiers in ''[[Die Another Day]]'' (including a few made to look like AKS-74s)

* One of Tahas' guards in ''[[District B13]]'' (with bayonet deleted)

* Militia fighters, refugees, Cameroon border guards, and [[Paul Francis]] as Danny "Doc" Kelley in ''[[Tears of the Sun]]'' (Type 56 with and without bayonet, Type 56-1 with and without AKM-style muzzle brake)

* Enemy soldiers in ''[[Dead Presidents]]''

* Rwandan Army soldiers in ''[[Hotel Rwanda]]''

* [[Jong Soo Park]] as Tran Chan Dinh in ''[[The Park is Mine]]''

* Feng's guards in ''[[Balls of Fury]]''

=== Television ===

* One of Deke Quinlan's men, [[Leo Fitzpatrick]] as "Mr. Mouse", and [[Adam Cantor]] as Rocko in ''[[The Kill Point]]''

* [[Derek Thompson]] as Billy Downes in ''[[Harry's Game]]''

==Norinco Type 84S==
[[Image:NorincoType84SRifle.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|right|500px|Norinco Type 84S - 5.56mm]]
[[Image:NorincoType84SFolder.jpg‎|thumb|right|500px|Norinco Type 84S Underfolder Model - 5.56mm]]
Nearly identical to the Chinese Type 56 (seen above), but chambered in 5.56x45mm. The Type 84 was imported and sold with an AK birdcage flash hider and had a deep polished factory blue. It is often seen impersonating the [[AK-74]] in movies and TV shows.

=== Film ===

* Multiple mobsters in ''[[Hollow Point]]''

===Television===

* ''[[Harsh Realm]]''

* Russian military personnel in ''[[Stargate: SG1]]''

* ''[[Battlestar Galactica]]''

* ''[[The X-Files]]''

==AK-101==
Modern Russian AK rifle full size. 5.56x45mm
[[Image:AK101.jpg|thumb|right|450px|AK-101 5.56x45mm]]

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Battlefield 2]]'' (with two magazines taped together and the MEC Assault Class's fitted with a GP30 Grenade Launcher)

* ''[[Kane and Lynch: Dead Men]]

==AK-102==
Modern Russian AK rifle carbine. 5.56x45mm
[[Image:AK102.jpg|thumb|right|450px|AK-102 carbine 5.56x45mm]]

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots]]'' (can be fitted with a GP30 Grenade Launcher)

==AK-103==
Modern Russian AK rifle full size. 7.62x39mm.
[[Image:AK103.jpg|thumb|right|450px|AK-103 Modern Russian AK rifle 7.62x39mm]]

=== Video Games ===

* [[Thomas Jane]] as Frank Castle in ''[[The Punisher]]'' (as the "7.62mm Assault Rifle", available with red dot sight, upgradeable to 75-round drum magazine)

* ''[[Mercenaries 2: World in Flames]]''

* ''[[Hitman: Codename 47]]''

==AK-104==
Modern Russian AK rifle carbine. 7.62x39mm.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|right|450px|AK104 carbine - 7.62x39mm. This is a blank adapted motion picture gun and the buttstock is a replacement and the magazine is a Bulgarian Waffle pattern. I will resubmit this photo when I get the correct buttstock and the black synthetic 7.62 magazines.]]

===Film===

* One of Taha's thugs in ''[[District B13]]'' (with muzzle brake removed and fitted with Romanian side-folding stock)

==AEK-971==
Ultra modern day Russian assault rifle. Chambered for the 5.45 round.

[[Image:aek971_545.jpg|thumb|right|450px|AEK 971 5.45mm]]

===Video Games===

* ''[[Battlefield: Bad Company]]''

==WASR-3==

A Romanian AK clone in 5.56x45mm.

[[Image:Romanian-WASR-3.jpg|thumb|right|450px|A US imported Romanian WASR-3, 5.56mm.]]

===Film===

* ''[[Sahara (2005)]]''

* ''[[Casino Royale]]''

* ''[[Hotel Rwanda]]''

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Rifle]]

The Kingdom

2008-12-22T04:01:18Z

TheDon152: /* Kalashnikov AKS-74U */

User:TheDon152

2008-12-22T03:45:29Z

TheDon152:

Pages I've made: (Note most of these were created before I created an account and are listed as my IP Adress)

* ''[[24: The Game]]''

* ''[[Timesplitters 2]]''

* ''[[Timesplitters: Future Perfect]]''

* ''[[Blacksite: Area 51]]''

* ''[[Medal of Honor: Rising Sun]]''

* ''[[Medal of Honor: European Assault]]''

* ''[[Matrix: Path of Neo]]''

* ''[[Battlefield: 1942]]''

* ''[[Commando's Strike Force]]''

* ''[[From Russia with Love (VG)]]''

* ''[[Warhound]]''

* ''[[The Strangers]]''

* ''[[9A91]]''

* ''[[Izhmash PP-19 Bizon]]''

* ''[[Balls of Fury]]''

Guns that I Like:

All AK varients

Uzi Varients

Glock 17

IMI Desert Eagle

Heckler & Koch MP5K

Steyr AUG

Steyr TMP

Mauser C96

MP40

STG44

Mauser Karabiner 98K

Heckler & Koch USP Match

Franchi SPAS 12

FN FAL

Makarov PM

Luger P08

Beretta M12

== Other Stuff ==

I apologize to everyone about what has happened with the flash animation shit. I didn't type it intenionally to dis anyone, I just did it because I didn't have anything else to type and personally I didn't think anyone would care. I've only been contributing to this site for a few months and I thought "just another wiki website". I understand the rules now and I won't post anymore shit on here from now on. If any of you people can find it in your hearts to forgive me, it would be appreciated. Thanks.

User:TheDon152

2008-12-22T03:44:59Z

TheDon152:

Pages I've made: (Note most of these were created before I created an account and are listed as my IP Adress)

* ''[[24: The Game]]''

* ''[[Timesplitters 2]]''

* ''[[Timesplitters: Future Perfect]]''

* ''[[Blacksite: Area 51]]''

* ''[[Medal of Honor: Rising Sun]]''

* ''[[Medal of Honor: European Assault]]''

* ''[[Matrix: Path of Neo]]''

* ''[[Battlefield: 1942]]''

* ''[[Commando's Strike Force]]''

* ''[[From Russia with Love (VG)]]''

* ''[[Warhound]]''

* ''[[The Strangers]]''

* ''[[9A91]]''

* ''[[Ishmash PP-19 Bizon]]''

* ''[[Balls of Fury]]''

Guns that I Like:

All AK varients

Uzi Varients

Glock 17

IMI Desert Eagle

Heckler & Koch MP5K

Steyr AUG

Steyr TMP

Mauser C96

MP40

STG44

Mauser Karabiner 98K

Heckler & Koch USP Match

Franchi SPAS 12

FN FAL

Makarov PM

Luger P08

Beretta M12

== Other Stuff ==

I apologize to everyone about what has happened with the flash animation shit. I didn't type it intenionally to dis anyone, I just did it because I didn't have anything else to type and personally I didn't think anyone would care. I've only been contributing to this site for a few months and I thought "just another wiki website". I understand the rules now and I won't post anymore shit on here from now on. If any of you people can find it in your hearts to forgive me, it would be appreciated. Thanks.

Balls of Fury

2008-12-22T03:36:59Z

TheDon152:

Balls of Fury

2008-12-22T02:49:25Z

TheDon152:

[[Image:Balls of Fury Poster.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Balls of Fury]]

Balls of Fury

2008-12-22T02:48:51Z

TheDon152: New page: Balls of Fury

[[Image:Balls of Fury Poster.jpg|500px|thumb|right|Balls of Fury]]

Izhmash PP-19

2008-12-17T23:37:29Z

TheDon152: /* Video Games */

[[Image:Bizon1.jpg|thumb|right|800px|Bizon SMG]]

== Specifications ==

Type: Submachine Gun

Calibre: 9x18mm

Country of Origin: Russia

Cartridge Capacity: 64 Round Helical Magazine

== Video Games ==

* ''[[Operation Flashpoint]]''

* ''[[Battlefield 2]]''

* ''[[ArmA II]]''

* ''[[Freedom Fighters]]''

* ''[[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots]]''

[[Category:Gun]]

Izhmash PP-19

2008-12-17T23:36:34Z

TheDon152: /* Video Games */

[[Image:Bizon1.jpg|thumb|right|800px|Bizon SMG]]

== Specifications ==

Type: Submachine Gun

Calibre: 9x18mm

Country of Origin: Russia

Cartridge Capacity: 64 Round Helical Magazine

== Video Games ==

* ''[[Operation Flashpoint]]''

* ''[[Battlefield 2]]''

* ''[[ArmA 2]]''

* ''[[Freedom Fighters]]''

[[Category:Gun]]

Izhmash PP-19

2008-12-17T23:34:21Z

TheDon152:

Izhmash PP-19

2008-12-17T23:33:23Z

TheDon152: New page: Bizon SMG == Specifications == Type: Submachine Gun Calibre: 9x18mm Country of Origin: Russia Cartridge Capacity: 64 Round Helical Magazine == ...