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Ultraviolet

2010-05-29T02:30:59Z

The-L3g3nd:

'''Ultraviolet''' is a 2006 sci fi action film, written and directed by '''Kurt Wimmer''', most known to IMFDB users as the writer and Director of ''[[Equilibrium]]''. Many of the elements are similar, particularly Violet's version of '''Gun Kata''', however, like most of Ultraviolet, this and many other possibly interesting story points are never explained.

[[Image:UVPoster.jpg‎|right|thumb|300px|''Ultraviolet'' (2006)]]

The following weapons were used in the film:

==Beretta 92FS==
* The Beretta Model 92FS is the most seen handgun in the entire movie. Nearly everyone has a Beretta 92FS.
[[Image:Ultraviolet-BerettaM92FSa.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': One of the Ministry's detectives shoots an infected man with his Beretta 92FS - 9mm]]
[[Image:UltraViolet-BerettaM92FS 02a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Nerva ([[Sebastien Andrieu]]) aims his Beretta 92FS - 9mm]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-BerettasRoofa.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': The primary guns of the "Blood Chinois" is the Beretta 92FS - 9mm]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-BerettaRoof 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': A member of the Blood Chinois holds his Beretta 92FS - 9mm]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-BerettaRoof 03a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': A closeup of a "Blood Chinois" Beretta 92FS - 9mm ]]

==Beretta 93R==
* Daxus ([[Nick Chinlund]]) weapon of choice for much of the movie.
[[Image:Ultraviolet-Beretta93Raa.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Daxus ([[Nick Chinlund]]) shows off his Beretta 93R - 9 mm]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-Beretta93R 03a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': A beautiful shot of Daxus' Beretta 93R - 9 mm]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-MassFireAA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Daxus uses the 93R as he storms towards Violet, as hundreds of his troopers fire their rifles at her. In fact, Daxus is walking right into the field of his own men's fire when he does this.]]

==Daxus' Incendiary Gel Pistol==
* Daxus tries to fire his napalm gel gun at Violet, but she flicks her blood and puts out the pilot light on the weapon. Daxus then fires the gun at her, only to propel a glob of flammable gel, which Violet deflects with her sword.
[[Image:Ultraviolet-CustomGun01.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Daxus ([[Nick Chinlund]]) aims his Incendiary Gel Pistol]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-CustomGun02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Detail shot of the pistol grip of the Incendiary Gel Pistol]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-CustomGun04a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Daxus ([[Nick Chinlund]]) notices that Violet's blood has put out the pilot light on his pistol.]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet FlameGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Pre-Production Concept Artwork of Daxus' Incendiary Gel Pistol (originally called Daxus' Mini Flame Thrower Gun" (for some strange reason, this drawing is titled "Mini Flame Flower" (sic)). This shows the initial design, which as we can see, changed in the final design.]]

==Violet's Auto Pistols==
* A completely custom and fictional machine pistol is used in 'flattening technology' and hidden on Violet's body. This is her primary weapon in most battles (and it strongly resembles a staplegun...)
[[Image:Ultraviolet-CustomPistolsa.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Violet ([[Milla Jovovich]]) walks down a Ministry Hall with her Auto Pistols.]]
[[Image:UltraViolet-PistolRoofAA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Violet ([[Milla Jovovich]]) sets down her Auto pistol when she faces off with the Blood Chinois.]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-PistolonBikeaa.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Violet ([[Milla Jovovich]]) fires her Auto pistol while evading helicopter gunships on her motorcycle.]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-PistolsFrontAA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': A detail shot of the front of the weapon as Violet ([[Milla Jovovich]]) shields Six ([[Cameron Bright]]) with her Auto Pistol.]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet VioletPistol.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Violet ([[Milla Jovovich]]) aims her auto pistol on the balcony.]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet SquareGun.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Pre-Production Concept Artwork of Violets' Auto pistols. The design of the "Square Gun" changed somewhat from concept art to final fabrication.]]

==SIG SG-552==
* The most common weapons of the Ministry security forces are either the SIG SG-552 or the H&K G36C. When comparing the SIG SG-552 rifles to '''real''' SIG SG-552s, these appear to be Airsoft copies and not real gun. Note the side rail on the foregrip, which is common on the Airsoft 552.
[[Image:SIG SG552.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A '''real''' SIG SG-552 - 5.56mm NATO]]
[[‎Image:Ultraviolet-SIG552 02aa.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Ministry Trooper with his SIG SG-552 with rails - 5.56mm NATO]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-SIG552aa.jpg |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Ministry Troopers with ALL WHITE SIG SG-552 to match their outfits - 5.56mm NATO]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-SIG552Circle2AA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Ministry Trooper point their SIG SG-552 at Violet - 5.56mm NATO]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-SIG552Circleaa.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''' ) troopers encircle Violet way too closely, at their own peril. Armed with SIG SG-552 rifles - 5.56mm NATO]]

==Heckler & Koch G36C==
* Used (along with the SIG SG-552) by the Ministry Security Forces.
[[Image:Ultraviolet-G36CA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Ministry Trooper with his H&K G36C Rifle - 5.56mm NATO]]

==Custom Colt M4/M16==
* One of the Ministry guards has a heavily modified M4 or M16 variant. It has a huge buttstock pad, more akin to a Boys Anti Tank Rifle and a large free floating combination hand guard and heat shield. Violet disassembles this gun to use the parts as martial arts weapons.
[[Image:Ultraviolet-M4a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Violet grabs the gun during a burst. Since the custom gun has a very large free floating heat shield, Violet could conceivable do this during a long burst from the weapon. What is interesting is that the flash still has the 'star burst' pattern from a standard M16 Flash hider, but the weapon has no flash hider - 5.56mm NATO]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-M4CUa.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Closeup of the Custom M16. Of interest is the actual Ministry logos and 'Thaihindi' language writing on the receiver - 5.56mm NATO]]
[[Image:UltraViolet-M4mod 02b.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': When Violet realizes the weapon is empty she quickly disassembles the gun and uses the parts as weapons. Probably the only reason an M4 or M16 variant was used was because of this feature. The SIGs or HK guns could not be so quickly field stripped.]]
[[Image:UltravioletM4CustomRifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Pre-Production concept art of the Custom M4 rifle, initially designed to break apart, so from the beginning the weapon was designed to be a modified M16.]]

==Custom M-11 / Katana "Combination" guns ==
* Violet has a pair of what seems to be customized M11 Submachine guns with a twist, Japanese style "Katana" blades extract out of the bottoms of the grips to create a 'combination weapon'. They retract on her command. Though the weapons are design based on the M11, they are in fact completely fabricated fantasy guns, made out of synthetic materials and aluminum.
[[Image:Ultraviolet-M11SwordcomboA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Violet aims her M11/Sword combo weapon.]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-M11SwordCombo2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': A shot of Violet's M11/Sword combo weapon with the blade extended]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-M11SwordCombo03a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Violet aims her M11/Sword combo weapon]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-M11SwordCombo04a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Violet holds her M11/Sword combo weapon]]

==Futuristic Police Shotgun==
* Used by pursuing police officers against Violet. They are probably a completely fabricated mockup weapon.
[[Image:Ultraviolet-PoliceShotgunAA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': City Police chase Violet with futuristic shotguns.]]

==Futuristic "Mini-Gun"==
* Used by ministry troops in pursuing helicopters, this "mini-gun" is far too large to be a 7.62mm or even a .50 cal weapon. And it is too small to be a 20mm (the only common "Western" calibers currently available in fast rotating barrel crew weapons). It appears to be a completely fabricated 'fantasy' Mini-gun. Note also the massive ammo rounds (larger than a .50 cal).
[[Image:Ultraviolet-MinigunAA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Ministry gunners aim for Violet with their Mini Gun.]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-MiniGun02aa.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Another shot of the helicopter mounted Mini Gun]]
[[Image:UltraViolet-MiniGun03AA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''':A shot of the massive size of the barrels of the Mini Gun]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-MiniGunAmmo 02AA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': A shot of the massive ammunition belts for the Mini Gun]]

==Shock Guns==
* Used by Ministry Guards, these are extended electric Shock batons, however, they are referred to in pre-production art and the script as "Shock Guns".
[[Image:Ultraviolet ShockGunA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Ministry Guards arrive with electric "Shock Guns".]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet ShockGun02A.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Violet takes out a Ministry Guard with an electric "Shock Gun".]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet ShockGun.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Pre-production concept for the Electric "Shock Gun".]]

==Daxus' Katana ==
* Daxus ([[Nick Chinlund]]) wields a massive Katana (sword) with unusual Saw tooth pattern on the leading edge. Though visually intimidating, this actually would great reduce the effectiveness of the blade.
[[Image:Ultraviolet-Katana 01a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Daxus' sword]]

==Violets' Katana ==
* Violet ([[Milla Jovovich]]) holds her signature Katana (sword) with an unusual flat 'chisel' shape, with mystical 'Thaihindi' writing on the surface. Again, this design, though intriguing, is an inefficient design for a combat sword.
[[Image:Ultraviolet-Katana 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''':Violet's signature battle Katana.]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet-KatanaFireA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''':During the battle in the dark, Daxus tries to exploit his advantage that he is full Hemophage and he can see in total darkness, however, Violet still has the Incendiary gel on her blade (having deflected it previously) and strikes the sword on the ground to create sparks and ignite blade so that she can see.]]
[[Image:Ultraviolet VioletsSword.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Pre-Production Concept Artwork of Violets Sword.]]

==Gatling Gun Pistol==
[[Image:Ultraviolet Gatlingun.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''[Ultraviolet]''': Pre-Production Concept Artwork of a multi-barrel "Gatling Gun" pistol (or that's what the artist called it). It was not implemented and remains a concept art weapon.]]

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Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops

2010-05-27T19:50:29Z

The-L3g3nd:

This game has a cold war look to it

== Not an AK-47 ==
Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that the mag isn't curved enough to be a 7.62x39 mag? It could be a -74 prototype, without the flash hider. Given the time frame, this may make sense.

Thanks for that, I also didn't note it before. It looks to be a WASR-2/3.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 16:19, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

:This game seems to have a lot of rendering issues when it comes to the guns [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:40, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
OMG it is damn videogame for god's sake, the guns aren't real and are nothing more than 3d drawings -of course they aren't going to be exactly like such and such gun. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 17:08, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

'''3D drawning''' ? Hell, that would be interesting. And GTFO, this is '''firearms site''' and ''YES'', we care about reality. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 17:44, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks for pointing that out. We are a gun site and we pay attention to details. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:24, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Well guess what, THESE ARENT GUNS!!! They aren't effing real they are nothing more than 3d models that someone threw together in 3DS MAX or whatever the hell they use so of course its not going to be up to every detail, That's why I don't do VG pages anymore--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 19:47, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

::You appear to have missed the point of this website...

AsAstra, the point that I don't think you're understanding, is that even if they're merely three dimensional renderings of the guns, and not the guns themselves, we should try to be as correct as possible. If something says that it's an Ak-74, but actually looks more like a different gun, we should call it the different gun, so as not to confuse anyone new to the site. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 15:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

== Degtyarov ==
It just cant be DPM. Lok - It totally doesnt have ironsights - And MAG isnt on top. + Its very unlikely some guy will cary Spas12 and Degtyarev. I just think its some AK type - Or it may be some different gun, but it isnt Degtyarev.
You may keep it there, but it will be false information.

==ummmm==
This page really needs a cleanup or a deletion.
There is also too much informal talk on the page itself, infact all of it is. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 04:47, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

===Moved from main page--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 04:49, 2 May 2010 (UTC)===
== AR-10 ==

Another unknown M16 family gun. But this one seems more like [[Armalite AR-10]] A4

[[Image:AR10-4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Armalite AR-10 A4 7.62x51mm.]]
[[Image:AR10.JPG|thumb|none|400px|M16 Family unknown gun as appeared in Black Ops teaser.]]

:The magazine seems too long to be an AR-10

Also the AR10 is a civilian gun right? So why would special forces like that guy above be holding it? I personally think its an M16(either A1 or A2) with a scope attached to its carrying handle/iron sight.

:It's a strange AR-15 Carbine with a flat top [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:20, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

== Un-identified guns ==

[[Image:MP5G3.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Un-identified gun '''1''' : Possibly [[MP5]] or [[G3]].]]
[[Image:UNKNOWNLOL.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Un-identified gun '''2''' : I totally dont know.But it may be some russian one.]]
[[Image:UNKNOWN THE MOST.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Un-identified gun '''4''' : Its hard to tell which gun this one is, but it looks like [[Beretta AR-70/223]] or Daewoo K2. I think that this gun could be any gun I see and AK there but it could be a siper rifle for all we know]]
As to the first unknown gun, it's too short to be a G3, so I believe it's an MP5. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 01:50, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== RPK ==

From the looks of it, it might be an RPK-74. Note the 45-round banana mag and the flash suppressor.

The "RPK" and the "Valmet" are the same guns - look carefully at the screenshot. Given that the 7.62mm AK-47 appears in game and the timeline, I'm gonna say that it's not an RPK-74, but a 7.62x39mm RPK or one made to look like a Valmet for some reason. Maybe Treyarch modelers are using 80's action movies as a reference for their RPK model. *shakes head*

No. Look on that "RPK" an you will see typical RPK stock. Look on "Valmet" and you will see it doesnt look like Valmet :)--[[User:Werc|Werc]] 03:53, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

==M1911==

In the title screen there is a soldier holding a 1911 i believe it also says something on the side.

It says "Sally" on the slide.

The 1911 looks more like the first and not the A1, look at the ejection port.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:17, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

== Wait... ==
Upcoming CoD,what what what?!
--[[Special:Contributions/76.235.34.31|76.235.34.31]] 02:31, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

== good decision ==

As well as Weapon customization there will also be a character customization feature.
- That game is gonna be just awesome. Character customization ? Damn, just in R6:V style (ha-ha)

* Custom characters? hell yeah --[[User:Yocapo32|Yocapo32]] 00:38, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
i agree with that customization policy, i liked how in R6V2 they did that, and i can only hope they bring back CoD4s M4A1 Grenadier back, and i also completely agree with the historic battle/ war thing as compared to a (***Spoiler) nuclear warfare and a domestic terrorist plot, i would much rather see Black Hawk Down pop up in a newer game as opposed to Vietnam, but i would settle for a Operation Acid Gambit type game also.

Customizable characters in a game where... you can't actually ''see'' the character? FAIL.
* Customizable characters in game where will be 3rd person mode, and where other players can see it ? Your post '''fail'''.
:When did Black Ops become third person? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:42, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

It isn't. He's saying that other characters will see your 3rd person form. Also, it's noteworthy that MW2 DID have third person mode.
:So then I've gotta agree. Character customization in a game where you can't actually see your guy seems like a fail to me, too. It's not like anybody in MP is really gonna stop shooting at you to say "hey, cool guy, what kind of vest is that?" And how do I activate this third person mode in MW2? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:50, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

:: Well, i dont know. But what about trying "3RD PERSON" in "Play" screen ?

== MP5k ==

You think they're putting that in there to copy MW2?
:No I think they're doing it to fulfill their MP5 quota. MW2 wasn't the first game to feature the MP5K, broski.-protoAuthor 00:23, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't know about that. They also have an AUG in the game and a SPAS-12. Not a coincidence that MW2 also has these. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

- Heh. Spas and AUG were in tons of other games. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 05:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

But THIS game is directly part of the COD franchise. It's a bit repetitive to show guns that has been in previous games. Well ok WWII games don't count because they cant help having the same guns, but this is supposed to be Treyarch's turn at making a new game, but so far, none of the weapons are new. What about instead of the SPAS-12, we get an 870, or instead of the AUG, we get...any other bullpup rifle of the time. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:36, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I derinitely think they're putting the MP5k in to copy MW2. They could have put in any other variant of the MP5, variants that weren't in prototype stage and would probably be more combat effective, but they went with the k variant. That said I don't think it's any coincidence the SPAS-12 and AUG is in there either.

Well, Treyarch apparently didnt start copying first. MW2´s specops get idea fairly sure from WaW´s coop system :D
:The latest issue of the official xbox magazine says that they originally had planned on having co-op throughout the entire campaign in MW2, but cut it because it messed with the narrative. Or, it would've been way too fun. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 13:06, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
the AUG was stupid in the game, no1 in USSOCOM uses that gun, i would lose all faith in mankind if i saw a Delta Operator/Seal using any type of bullpup, Europe can have their bullpups, id rather see us with heavily customized hK416s, and MP5K is definetly better than a TMP or MAC-10 or an Uzi
* Would you mind telling what do you have against bullpup designs, beside "the looks"?--[[User:WhiteSlift|WhiteSlift]] 11:58, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
* Heh. MP5k get into service 20 years after Vietnam war. There was only prototype in latest parts pf Vietnam war. MAC10 or UZI would be much more realistic in hands of US soldiers. Atleast much more than prototype gun. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 06:49, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

true why would they be carrying a Prototype in to combat

Because it's a video game that doesn't care about accuracy and realism. I mean what loser actually waits until Picatinny rails to be invented? Go ahead and put them on your rifle in Nam, it's the new trend.

== What the hell is up with this AR-15 Carbine? ==

It looks like a 733, but at the same time, not since it also has a flat top, but the scenes in the trailer that showed this rifle is assumed to be Vietnam era, so a flat top AR-15 shouldn't exist at the time much less a rail system for it. Also the same AR also has a rear iron sight on the flat top. This doesn't make sense [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

- I think its XM177, but customized way to much. Its mucb more possible that Treyarch just failed. I think they just added rail system/flat top just because MP. You know, attachments. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 05:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

::It cannot be an XM177 if it has a flattop receiver. Those did not exist when the XM177s were introduced. The flash hider is also Vortex, not the XM177-type. The game's 3D artists might have been ignorant about what AR carbines existed at the time. But that is not an XM177. Not by a long shot. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:23, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I think the game's 3D rendering tech was mostly like stone because it's the 60s and 70s, but the trailer animation is horrible! I could barely tell what was going on and the weapon details are no where like MW2. Say what you want about MW2 when it comes to consistencies, but at least they can render their weapons correctly. My first upload of that funky AR-15 shows the handguard as this polygon like thing. And did flat top receivers exist during Nam? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:34, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

:::''And did flat top receivers exist during Nam?''

:::No, not at all. My recollection is that the Colt ACR (introduced in the 1980s) was the first AR-type rifle to feature a flattop receiver. Even though the ACR was a bust, flattops were subsequently carried over into future AR generations. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:39, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

With these seemingly anachronistic flat top recievers and flip up sights I think this game is headed towards failure. Seems like they're taking the MW2 route and making their "balanced" and cosmetically changed multiplayer weapons also appear in single player. I hope by some miracle they don't or else they don't get my money.

:And here I remember talking to my brother about how they can fuck up the M16 by either putting A2s or burst A1s, but this is WAY over there in the incorrect area. Haven't they seen any Nam movies? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:03, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

: Excalibur01 - or use five minutes just f-i-v-e f**king minutes of their time and try to google some Vietnam-era photos. Or they could hire someone with at least basic knowledge of era background and weaponery. You know, they spent money on countless other things. But I guess that Call of Duty is now like B-rated action movies. Make as many as you can and don't worry about the quality. Nobody gives a s*it about how it looks like or if it is correct as far as it would look cool and geek teen age kiddos would pay the money so they could play multiplayer on their lagging net servers. [Ragnar - 22:25, 19 May 2010]

Hopefully they at least have the M16 have full auto instead of burst, would make it more fun that way. I did read that this isn't taking place in vietnam on yahoo news which probably is incorrect but this is ridulous of the weapons they are putting in.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 22:48, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

:I read an IGN article that it'll take place throughout the Cold War, from the end of Nam to Cuba and also Princess Gates London [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:17, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Complaints ==
Hey, it's a game, not a history lesson. It's all about fun and style and so. I do like a realistic movie or game, but I don't hate a game just because the artists created something they think it's better this way. Nobody complains when a director sums up a car ride that would take 1 hour in real life in one scene in the movie, or when he puts the light where the sun can never be just to make it look good, but when someone puts a cool looking AUG in a game set before 1977, because it looks cool, or creates his own creative vision of an AR-15 everyone freaks out. All the time you hear people say "They should have done better research!" or "They don't know anything about history!", but maybe the did research, and they know history, and they discussed it and decided that they want to create something own, because they feel it fits better in their creative work than what real life history can give them.

*Yeah, you are right. Now we need M1 Abrahams tank in some Napoleonic Wars strategy. Cause that tank is just cool - right ? Or maybe M4 Carbine in WW2 shooter ?--[[User:Werc|Werc]] 16:28, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

::Treyarch is legally obligated to keep the timeline from going beyond Vietnam. [http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/03/04/the-activision-lawsuit-what-it-means-and-where-it-s-going.aspx] If that means they have to cheat a bit regarding the weapons, I'm willing to give them some leeway. Let's face it, we're probably the only people who truly care anyway. None of these inaccuracies are going to keep any of us from buying this game when it comes out and playing the heck out of it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 16:41, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
* Well, msot of CoD players wont even recognize M16 and M4 or HK416. So yep - We are maybe only ones who care about it :/ --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 16:44, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
::And mind you, Treyarch is the same developer that had Japanese troops using suppressed MP40s with reflex sights in WaW. Oh, and a RAY GUN TO SHOOT ZOMBIES. That being said, I was devastated when I found out that MW2 wouldn't have zombies, and I'll be even more devastated if BO doesn't have them. IMHO, zombies was the best part of WaW. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 17:39, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
* And IW had OMOH with FN2000´s and IMI Tavor´s - So whats the difference :D Hope zombies will be includeProxy-Connection: keep-alive
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too.

:Ok the Zombie thing in WaW was a side game. It's not part of the "story". If the zombies and the ray gun appeared in the actual missions, then we'd called bullshit but with a smile cause zombies are awesome to fight. The suppressors and red dot sights were for multiplayer to compete with COD4 at the time, so those don't count. We're talking historically accurate, period piece weapons. It's like we do a game taking place during the Civil War but we all got 1911s as handguns and M1 Garands as rifles. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:22, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
::You're telling me you wouldn't play a Civil War game where you can use an M1 Garand? ;)True, they tried that with Darkest of Days, but it was terribly done. And second, you CAN get the ray gun for one of the campaign missions, and it is awesome. (You can take down a tank with two shots.) But I know what you're getting at. I'm just saying we shouldn't let the nitty gritty get in the way of good gameplay, especially since Treyarch already has one hand legally tied behind their backs. Would they want to make a Modern Warfare-like game set in present day or the near future? Sure, but they can't, they're legally handcuffed to inflexible historical fact. Besides, no game has ever gotten its weapons exactly right. We have an entire generation of kids who believe an M1 Garand can't be reloaded without firing the entire clip, or it has less stopping power than a K98K. I won't lose any sleep if BO has AR-15s with flat top receivers, but I will if the game sucks. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 06:34, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
You know if there gonna screw this game why don't the just add a bunch of laser guns or crap. I mean i could understand if the weapons in the game where off, but i have a feeling this game is going to be a cluster F***
::We're basing a lot on two trailers and some scanned images from a magazine 5.5 months from release. I'm going to reserve judgment until I actually play it or at least hear from people who have actually played it. Treyarch has little to lose here. If it's great, people will praise them, if it's not, people already think they're the Fredo Corleone to IW's Michael Corleone in the Activision family. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 05:40, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:::And while we're here, we've been talking about how the angle of the AK mag is slightly off, but is anyone else annoyed that if you do a tactical reload and drop half a mag, those rounds in the discarded mag magically go back into your ammo stockpile and you don't lose them? This has been true in 99.7% of all FPS's I've ever played. Gamers have accepted the idea of the consequence-free tactical reload for over a decade now. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 05:40, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
::::You're right it's a crying shame. Not only because it's more accurate when the game keeps track of ammo in specific mags but it also adds another challenge and element of strategy. I also enjoy the one game I've played that keeps track of the +1 round in your gun when you reload. I wish more games were like that. Sad thing is I don't see COD heading in the right direction ever again.
:::::The one time I saw them do the tactical reload correctly was... Navy SEALs Quake, a mod for Quake II. Yes, it was a mod made by amateurs over ten years ago. The big game companies aren't doing it right because they don't want to. I remember the first time I played a game that had different animations for reloading with a round in the chamber and one without. Operation Winback on the N64, also ten years ago. It was a nice touch. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 13:48, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

* But we arent complaining here about animation and bullet system, damn. We are critising look of those guns ! That stramge XM177/AR15 hybrid was seen many times in reveal trailer, so we can judge it. And it failed. Its still better when you have realistic gun without realistic ammo system than crazy-unrealistic looking gun with realistic ammo system. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 12:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
::I don't think it'd be that hard to replace the skin. [[Black]] didn't give a damn about realism, but it was still enjoyable as hell. The way I see it, ultimately, it's just a game, to be played because it's fun, not as an interactive history lesson. If you want accuracy, watch the Military Channel or actually go out to the range. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 13:48, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
::: Well, it doesnt have to be "interactive history lesson" but atleast a bit of realism would be nice. '''''BTW''': I visit shooting range once or twice in month :)''

As pointed out, we don't want TOTAL realism. Otherwise, one bullet hit to the chest is enough to kill you. At least head shots are instant kills in the game. But we're doing a game based on a particular period and it has to be accurate. I mean, if you were watching a WWI movie and see soldiers with M16s. That's a bit jarring right? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:03, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:: Now he will answer it isnt jarring. If the movie has cool effects and famous actors.
:::Jarring, maybe, but I don't know if it'd ruin it for me. (Is it a sci-fi film? Surrealism? A film by Uwe Boll?) It'd be one thing to have blatant mistakes, like M16s in WWI, but would it have ruined [[Saving Private Ryan]] if Sgt Horvath had a post war M1 Carbine with a bayonet lug and adjustable rear sights instead? Did the fact that the officers had Webley Mark VI's instead of Adams Mark III's ruin [[Zulu]]? Did the fake M72 LAW in [[Ronin]] take you out of the movie? If it didn't, it's because you chalked it up as a goof, moved on, and enjoyed the rest of an otherwise good movie. If it did, then I don't know what to tell you. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 15:52, 25 May 2010
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Here's a hypothetical question: This game is called Black Ops, so theoretically, they can make up whatever they want, what do we know, it's a black op, and thus classified. What if all the weapons in the game were all fake, either outright, or fictional modifications of real weapons? Would we still be up in arms? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 16:14, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
: I hate to say it but you might be onto something. I've heard rumors that Black Ops will rewrite history and take place in an alternate past. This is probably how Treyarch can get around the legal restrictions of not being able to make post-Vietnam games and explain these BS weapons. Personally I think it's pretty weak but it explains it.
:: Well, if it does... Wait-It doesnt! I read some article with one of Treyarch members which strictly denied possibility of alternate reality. Ill repat it again : its just some Treyarch modeller fail. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 12:39, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:::It doesn't have to be alternate history, just a secret history. It's implied that the JFK assassination will be in the game. Is the player the second gunman on the grassy knoll? Is he supposed to stop the second gunman on the grassy knoll? Does he successfully stop a possible third gunman? They can make up anything they want in that scenario. A mission can have the player equipped with a prototype laser rifle, but it's scripted so the rifle is damaged or lost along the way, and the technology is lost forever. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 15:53, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

== Unknown ==
The rocket launcher under unknown is an M202 FLASH rocket launcher. Ashdude01 20:20 19 May 2010

Yes there is i added it to the guns page but some moron removed it

moviemaster1993 11:58 may 2010

== Carcano M91/38? ==

The images provided doesn't shot much and it is said that it can't be a mosin Nagant because the barrel is too short. Well it could be the carbine length variant or any other short barrel bolt action rifle. I can't see anything in the picture. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:26, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

It seems like its picture of that gun. Remember that game has to do something with JFK asassination and there can be barelly seen "Lee Harvey Oswald" on paper under that gun. So i think it have to be that gun - As some reference. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 03:48, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Ever heard of the Mosin Nagant M44 carbine or the finnish retooled M38?--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 11:56, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== M16 and XM177 ==

[[Image:Colts.JPG|thumb|none|500px|]]

Looks like the guy here has either an M16 as you can tell by the barrel pointing to the left and the barrel on the right looks like an XM177 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:26, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== Embargo lifts tomarrow, the 28th ==

Ones the embargo lifts we will be flooded with info, especially about guns

What embargo? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:45, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

== Valment m78 ==

someone please get rid of the m78 since its a rpk clone and not featured it black ops.... its like putting a chinesse ak with the russian ak... while were at it lets add the yugo and polish aks too

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'''The following weapons are seen in the upcoming video game ''Call of Duty: Black Ops'':'''
[[Image:TEASER.JPG|thumb|500px|right|'''''Call of Duty: Black Ops''' (2010)'']]

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= Assault Rifles =
== AK-47 ==
The [[AK-47]] appears to be in the game and in the hands of non-western forces like Vietcong (and NVA) or Russians.

[[Image:AK-47.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AK-47, 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:BLACKOPSAK47.JPG|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:AKacinececko.JPG|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:CODBOAK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== Steyr AUG ==

The [[Steyr AUG]] is seen as the weapons for what only can be special forces.

[[Image:Steyr-AUG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Steyr AUG]], 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:STEYRAUGBLACKOPS.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Steyr Aug with Arctic camo and silencer in Black Ops teaser.]]
[[Image:Skydivingcodbo.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Our skydiving protagonist takes "two is one and one is none" to a new level when he carries an AUG to complement his primary weapon, another AUG. You know, in case one explodes or something.]]

== AR-15 Carbine ==

Throughout the game, it seems an unknown variant of the [[AR-15]] Carbine that appears to have a 733 length barrel is seen in use. There are several scenes where it has a flat top. If those scenes took place in Vietnam, then it would be incorrect for the time. Ït may even be some AR-15/XM-177 mix. But more just a Treyarch modeller fail.

[[Image:XM177.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scanned screenshot from the Xbox Gaming Magazine.]]

[[Image:CODBOAR-15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note no brass deflector or forward assist as well as a strange tubular handguard. It is also missing carrying handle.]]
[[Image:CODBOAR-15a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note older style retracting stock, but apparently has a flattop with what looks like an early Colt scope.]]
[[Image:CODBOAR-15b.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note rear flip up sight]]

== M16 ==
Unknown [[M16]] ( Seems to be A1 ) covered with some kind of cloth or tape appeared in hands of soldier on one of BO´s artworks.

[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:BLACKOPSM16.JPG|thumb|none|500px|M16 on cover of French Xbox 360 magazine.]]

= Submachine Guns =

== MAC-10 ==
[[MAC-10]] with silencer can be seen on one of artworks, so maybe wont appear in-game.

[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|none|300px|MAC-10 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:MAC10NICE.JPG|thumb|none|500px|MAC-10 with silencer on cool breaching artwork]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5K Prototype ==

An MP5k Prototype can be seen in beginning of the trailer.

[[Image:MP5Kprototype.JPG|thumb|none|300px|]]
[[Image:Unknwon.JPG|thumb|none|500px|]]

= Shotguns =

== Franchi SPAS 12 ==

The [[Franchi SPAS-12|SPAS-12]] makes an appearance in the game.

[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Franchi SPAS-12, 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:SPASINA.JPG|thumb|none|500px|SPAS-12 in Black Ops teaser.]]
[[Image:CODBOSpas.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:CODBOSpas1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

= Machine Guns =
== RPK-74 ==

The [[RPK-74]] appears in the teaser.
[[Image:Soviet RPK-74.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK-74, 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:RPKblackopsy.JPG|thumb|none|500px|RPK in the Black Ops teaser.]]

==M60==
The [[M60 machine gun]] is seen mounted as a door gun on a Huey gunship.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:CODBlackOps Huey.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

==[[M134 Minigun]]==
A Huey gunship is seen armed with rocket pods and twin [[M134 Minigun]]s.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|400px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:CODBlackOps Huey.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

= Pistols =

== M1911A1 ==
[[M1911A1]] can be seen in hands of BO´s signature soldier.

[[Image:Colts.JPG|thumb|none|500px|BO's signature soldier weilding dual 1911 pistols with the name "Sally" inscribed on them.]]

= Other weapons =

==Crossbow==

The Crossbow is a new weapon that will be featured in Call of Duty: Black Ops. It is speculated to fulfill the role of a quiet, long range weapon. The crossbow appears in the campaign mission "WMD', which is set in the Ural Mountains, 1968. Crossbows can have different types of bolts which it can fire, such as normal bolts and Explosive bolts. The crossbow is a military grade crossbow that can attach a scope, which the player can steady.

[[Image:36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Crossbow as appeared in Xbox´s gaming magazine.]]
[[Image:BLACKOPSCROSSBOW.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Much better view on that beautiful thing.]]

==Carcano M91/38==
Gun used by Lee Harvey Oswald to assassinate John F. Kennedy, can be seen for second in newest trailer. That is interesting and it assuring that game will have to do something with JFK´s assassination.
[[Image:CarcanoM91-38ShortRifle.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Carcano M91/38 Short Rifle - 6.5mm.]]
[[Image:CARCANO.JPG|thumb|none|500px|]]

= Rocket launchers and AT/AA weapons =

==RPG-7==
[[RPG-7]] can be seen in hands of vietcong fighter in reveal trailer.
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPG-7 70mm Grenade Launcher]]
[[Image:RPGINBLACKOPS.JPG|thumb|none|500px|A vietcong fighter with RPG-7 in-game.]]

==M202 FLASH==
[[M202 FLASH]] is seen used by player in reveal trailer to destroy vietcong building.

=See Also=

'''Call of Duty franchise'''

* ''[[Call of Duty]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty: United Offensive]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty: Finest Hour]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty 2]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty 2: Big Red One]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty 3]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Nintendo DS Version)]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty: World at War]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty: World at War: Final Fronts]]''
* ''[[Call of Duty: World at War (DS)]]''
* ''[[Modern Warfare 2]]''

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