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==ARCTIC WARFARE==
My friend, i have done the job of describing the differences of the [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare series]] check the discussion board of the page. i hope you appreciate my work.-[[User:SargeOverkill]]

== User 67.183.66.44 ==
It is better to block this idiot for an infinite period of time, since just as his blocking period expired he has started making his usual changes, Take for example, he added the pistol and machine pistol category to full-sized SMGs like Spectre M4 and Jatimatic.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 08:56, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

==S&W 4500==
I recently combined the smith & wesson 4505, 4506, 4516, and 4566 articles into one. I was told to contact an administrator to see about removing the old individual pages if the change is considered acceptable. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:: (What I wrote to ANONYMOUS) I just banned an IP address (person did not log in as user Anonymous) for wholesale removal of data from three S&W pages. That is NOT the way to do it. If this is YOU (i.e. Anonymous User), I will lift the ban, but you CREATE the new page first and then cut & paste the old data AND then put a note at the TOP of the old page explaining what you did. Suddenly BLANK Pages by unknown IP addresses usually AUTOMATICALLY put up a big red flag. If that is you, ALWAYS log in before you do stuff like that. Unknown IP address get automatically banned for that. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:43, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

== The Stand ==

Why so snarky? The last photo does appear to be some type of folding stock attached to the weapon. And why did you not either send me a message on my page or add to the discussion page for the movie? I don't mind a debate but I'm puzzled by your tone. Have I done something to you lately? I was under the impression that we strove for some type of polite excahnges here. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Sure I understand how that goes.We all get tired and sometimes come across in wasy that we didn't intend. Not a problem. I thought I saw a folded stock in the last screecap, but I'll change it to the 89 model.I'm not a big MP5 guy. More into S&W revolvers. Thanks. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 16:52, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

==I am back again==

Hey Matt, Things have been slow so I have to work twice as hard to make ends meet. The Industry has been off as of late but did work on some TV shows. Shop work is slowly coming on line so that will be nice. I like the new things going on with the website looks good. [[User:ritwikbmca|ritwikbmca]] new templates look great don't know if the rest of the admins had agreed on them as standard. I have been hearing from others in the Industry about the site most good some feel that there are some errors that need to be corrected. I did find out that some film archivist are looking at the site to very weapons and props used in the films which is very cool. A couple have stated we should think about adding studios to the show info so it can be used as a cross reference. I believe that no matter what people believe that IMFDB will be similar to IMDB on the information it has. I have other show that I have screen-capped and hope to post some more this week and go back through others to check them of errors. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Buying a SIG==
I may be looking into getting a SIG P220 (45acp). At the gun shop where I bought a S&W 4505 (same as your 4506 but blued, carbon steel). After the 3 day waiting period is up on the 4505, I'm going to take my Desert Eagle up there and see what they'll give me for it. The SIG in question is a two tone model, nickel side, black frame. It had a better grip than the 4505 but it was $50 more (listed at $600) and wasn't as clean as the 4505. Are the pre '96 stamped slide models the best to get and is there anything else I should look for? Is there anything else negative about the post '96 models other than the slide weight? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:23, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks for the response, very informative. No problem with it being long either. Cleared up a lot of questions. I'm pretty sure it had the older style plastic grips. I don't think it had nickel controls either just the slide. I'll bring the date list with me and check. I didn't really give it a good look over. I just saw that was as clean as the 4505. I went into the gun shop just to see what they had, didn't plan on buying anything. I saw that 4505, you don't ever see them just the 4506 models. That had some P226's too, didn't really look at them. I already have a few nines and was wanting to get some .45's. If the Desert Eagle was a .44 I would keep it, my S&W 586 takes care of my .357 needs. If the SIG isn't up to par I get something else and look into getting one later. Thanks for the help. Also I considered trying to buy your 4506, but since it's a pain for you to ship out of state, I went local. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:34, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

::No SIG for me. Gun shop wanted to give me $500 for the Desert Eagle. I didn't handle the SIG again. But I was wrong about the grips. Had the newer style. I'll get a SIG later. I'm very pleased with the 4505. I just wish the grip had a little swell on the sides to keep it from being so flat. I'll post some pics on the forum later. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:32, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

==User 67.183.66.44==
He's back. I've had to fix almost a dozen pages on which he did edits. For one thing, he adds custom gun pics to the main gun pages, and then he doesn't even format it correctly. WTF? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:10, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

==Seecamp LWS-32==
I replaced the image of the Seecamp from Weapon Specialists LTD with one from my own inventory. At least it's one of our own copyrighted images. Hope you like it. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:SeecampLWS-32.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Seecamp LWS-32 pocket pistol - 32 acp]]

==User 67.183.66.44 ==
I just had to to block him AGAIN for one month. I'm tempted to permanently ban him. Literally the MOMENT that his ban expired, he started making TONS of changes, most of which were stupid and required fixing. Thoughts? Should this guy get a longer ban? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:25, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Afghan Breakdown==
In regards to your question I'm afraid there hasn't been a version of Afghan Breakdown released with English subtitles, officially or otherwise. I tried looking for them when I originally watched the movie and found that the torrented version was Italian-dubbed while the only available subtitles were Polish. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] 02:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

==So are you happy now?==
I'll get one of the Canuck Flat top soon.... ;)
[[Image:Colt715 C7Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colt 715 aka Canadian C7 Rifle - 5.56x45mm. Unlike the real C7, this has an A1 flash hider for the sake of a full 'flower' flash pattern]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:40, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==BTW: More pics ;) ==
I've been replacing a bunch of the lame pics. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:52, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:MPIKM72Wood.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|East German AKM - MPi-KM-72 Transitional Rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Savage-Stevens-311-Shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Savage Stevens 311A Shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:M1A1Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1A1 Paratrooper Carbine - .30 Carbine]]
[[Image:Ruger10 22.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Ruger 10/22 (Pre-2005 Model) - .22 LR ]]
[[Image:ColtSAA HandOfGod.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Colt Single Action Army Fast Draw Model "Hand of God" - .45 LC]]
[[Image:Smith&Wesson-Model-19.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 19]]
[[Image:RossiModel851.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Rossi Model 851 Revolver - .38 Special]]
[[Image:CharterArmsUnderCover70s.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|300px|1970s era Charter Arms Undercover with 3" barrel - .38 Special]]

==There's no pleasing you ;) ==
So are all the Canadian shows have the Oly grip on them? Are you sure? If they have the A2 style pistol grip, then it's essentially the same rifle. Also the 715 is not mine so I won't be getting that back to photograph any time soon. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==What about Stargate and other shows?==
There are TONS of TV shows filmed in Canada and I'm not sure that they use the Oly grip. I 'think' Seven days had the A2 grip and SG1 had the A2 grip sometimes. Let me know if ALL of the Canadian shows have the Oly grip, but I am sure I've seen other lowers on the guns in the past. I will try to get the rifle upper back and film it on an Oly lower. YOU KNOW I'm the ONLY IMFDB member who bothers to do that! ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:57, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==Deleting Frankengun pics==
I just deleted another one of my pics 'modified' by a member. I don't mind placeholders but the noobs don't give accreditation so I delete them as soon as I see them. People doing 'frankengun' chop jobs DE-motivates me to go out and photograph the real guns, and we don't want THAT to happen. :) I mean why bother trying to track down the real guns from HEAT if some guy is going to PS Franken gun another gun? If it looks decent enough the reason and motivation for me to take the time (and irritate my fellow armorers) becomes less and less compelling. Thoughts? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:57, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==C7 stuff==
I was going to overwrite your old C7 shot with this new image, but then I realized that the naming nomenclature would be wrong and give the wrong impression (i.e. naming the file c7 when the rifle is a 715). I am looking forward to fixing the UGLY pics of the Diemaco section of the M16 page soon. Just a thought regarding a movie page, I don't think the rifles in [[Operation Dumbo Drop]] are 715s. Those 715 uppers were really prevalent in the 1990s when the supply of original M16A1 uppers dried up and everyone stopped making them and went to the A2 uppers. A lot of guys who wanted the M16A1 look but didn't have an A1 gun were buying what we all called 'The Canadian A1 upper' to build up their guns. So it's a regular franken gun with a straight ring and light barrel that happens to have a 715 upper receiver. It's the real life franken guns that trips us up. AR parts from so many manufacturers are so prevalent that we can be seeing Bushmaster or DPMS or Eagle Arms (now defunct) or Pac West guns all over the place. I remember that Colt was NOT selling their lower receivers (assholes) before the first Clinton ban, but everyone else was. I bought over 30 Pac West receivers and built them up into AR15 variants before the first AW ban. They were about $55.00 (and then jumped up to $400 just before the ban.). Just a note. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==Colt cowards==
They were one of the first ones to CAVE when the gun control fanatics started their jihad against gun owners, starting with the Stockton shooting in Feb 1989 all the way to the passage of the Clinton AW ban in 1994. Colt SOLD complete emasculated rifles with no bayonet lug and renamed receivers. Colt refused to sell lower receivers upon which to build custom guns. But that's what armorers wanted. We swap out uppers all the time. So unless the armory (like Stembridge, and later CW who picked up a lot of their stuff) bought all their guns in the 1970s and 1980s, from Colt, the most prevalent build up guns would be by other manufacturers. IN the early 1990s Colt rifles were more expensive than many competitors and also harder to find. Colt, IMHO, is the American H&K ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==715 photo==
Just talked to the owner about getting the barreled upper for a shoot. He will be available in about 2 weeks. Also I discovered during our conversation. ((I didn't look that closely at the gun because it was a really quick shoot that I had to do in about 3 minutes! Someone put the gun against the white background and I lit it and click off about a dozen shots from that angle only and off it went))... that it was a full Colt 715 kit but mounted on a pre-1989 Bushmaster XM15-A2 lower that was legally converted to full auto fire from a civilian receiver (i.e. a post 86 sample). There are small 'marking' differences, i.e. the full auto setting word was stamped on LATER. Does that make a difference? Or should I reshoot the entire gun with a Colt lower receiver? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:51, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==Got an easy fix for the 715==
The Factory Colt 715 has no select fire markings on the right side of the gun. I can just 'clone' out the markings, though I don't like to do that, (I use Photoshop just to remove SNs if needed, scratches, cracks, oil stains, weird reflections, etc. I try not to fundamentally change the look of the gun, just to 'clean it up'). But I can clone out the Bushmaster Selector markings and keep it blank. Thus for all intents and purposes, it looks like a Colt 715 lower from that side. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:05, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
::(EDIT) Done. I also cloned out a big fat THUMBPRINT that I left on the upper (oops!) hahahahaha. Don't want to pollute IMFDB's pics with that kinda stuff! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:10, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

==SIG P228==
You know, I've been itching to replace that 228 with a better pic. That gun was dropped and in the middle of repair when I snapped a pic of it. The frame was scratched really bad (from a car stunt) and was repainted with black spray paint. It was NOT the best example to use. Should we let Joker keep his P228 pic until I can get a better screen used P228 sample? At the least, it will be a reminder for me to get a new P228 pic. Thoughts? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:28, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
:I opt to keep the beater P228 pic for now. It IS a screen used gun, but nothing big or eventful, mostly B-movies and I can't figure out where it was rented to. I will try to get a screen used P228 from a BIG MOVIE from CW hopefully soon. I will be out of town for a WW2 documentary shoot for NATGEO in the South Pacific again (I leave on wed), so I will not be able to screencap or take pics (only some blank firing Pistols of which IMFDB already has the pics for and a BUNCH of rubber Arisakas and garands for some reenactments for the documentary film crew). I will be back 1st week of April. I will be on here on IMFDB, though via wi fi from the lap top from the hotel. If we get rained out, you'll be seeing me here on IMFDB! hahahaha. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:38, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
==Desert Eagle==
Great work on the page. :) Let me know what you need help on. I think my brother has Lucky Number Slevin. So I'll check and see if the model can be determined. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:52, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah I could give two shits about the video game junk too. Most of them will probably Mark XIX. The grid pattern isn't necessary unless it's a long list. But anyway I'll help what I can. Also that custom Eagle you just uploaded is a USA built one. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:06, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah that's what I would do, let the hardcore gamers sort that crap out if they care so much.(Very few would be Mark VII) Also even though there wouldn't be any blank converted Eagles in the .440 Cor-Bon caliber I added it to the specifications to be more accurate.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:27, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the .440 version didn't have the flutes. Also I'm throwing a wrench here. But I think the early Mark XIX models at least in the .44 Magnum may not have had fluted barrels. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:58, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:BSDesertEagle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here we can see the .44 stamp on the other Russian's Desert Eagle Mark XIX. His has a chrome barrel and frame with a black slide.]]
[[Image:44barrel.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Why do they prefer the .50 AE? Does it cycle better than the .357 and .44 because you can get a heavier powder charge? Or I'm wondering if the .50 isn't rimmed like the .357 and .44 makes it easier. All this talk about Eagles makes me what to go shoot mine.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:28, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

:I helped identify Desert Eagles appearing in animes and a few video games. Even after this a lot of video games are left, some of which cannot be identified since either those pages have no screencaps to identify the model or the Desert Eagles appearing in them have components of Mark I,VII,XIX mixed together!. I also deleted some video games, films, anime and television series appearing in the page which appeared in red.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 06:21, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

==Blanks==
It took them a while to get .45 1911's to cycle blanks also. It seems like it would be tough to get a DE to cycle reliable with blanks. Don't know if you handled one and racked the slide. (Fucking heavy). I almost smacked myself in the face after shooting mine and then switching to a Hi-power. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

:I'll have to search the forum and read your Desert Eagle story. The .357 is the biggest handgun caliber I have shot. I don't go shooting with anyone else besides my dad, so I don't get to shoot anyone else guns. I'd like to shoot a .50 just for the experience. You can't trust internet gun users about gun recoil.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:39, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

No it's fine like it is, thanks though. They can click on the image and see who it belongs to. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:34, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Also I think I'm going to have a problem with a user on the [[Death Sentence]] page. He made some okay edits. But he took one of my images off the page and wrote he used different gun and renamed some of the image files so they ended not showing up. (I hope I didn't confuse you) --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:34, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Desert Eagle==
I'll be adding the template to the page. Can you help me with it?--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 07:07, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

== Boondocks Saints 2 ==

Oh alright, I'll leave it to you. One less thing on my to do list. I'll go work on Ninja Assassin. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

== screencapping ==

Well I need some help cause I have no idea how to work the screen capture feature on VLC [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

==delete==
Need this file deleted, uploaded it by accident, when I should have been uploading over an existing file. Thanks --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:14, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:FDTD-00115.jpg

==From Dusk Till Dawn==
Thanks. The page wasn't really missing any screencaps, but was lacking in good ones. Also I borrowed Lucky # Slevin, so I'll check out the DE used. I think the page is incomplete so I may end up capping it. Plan on adding some caps of the missing revolvers in [[The Killer]] too.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:05, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

==Mods & Stuff==
yeah, he was writing snarky sarcastic stuff. Sounds just like a kid. Personally I think some of our newer (foreign) members are 'young' based on their actions (and preferences). For one, I don't like spending time arguing why we should NOT have a section on suction cup arrows LOL! We always get some noob waltz in and start challenging the rules of IMFDB (Gee, why don't you guys start doing THIS instead?) Thankfully I've seen some of our experienced (and even some newer members who 'get it') step in and intervene. It's gratifying to see that we have members who follow the rules and enforce that amongst other members. :) the shoot was a mixed bag. It was really windy and stormy in the South pacific. Even though there was no rain, the wind gusts knocked me down several times. I'm only here for a few days. I leave for Rome for a shoot and then for a gig in Hong Kong. No I don't take any weapons with me ;) I only act in a paid advisory capacity. But depending on whether I can get internet access from wherever I'm at in the world, I may not be around for April-early May. We'll see. Sometimes the shoot days are so long, that I just crash at the end of the day. Anyway, I felt like I was the lone mod sometimes (but again, we have quite a few experienced standard members who are doing a good job of reigning in some of the wacky changes made by 'drive by members'. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Model 733 ==

Thank you for clarifying this for me. While we're on the subject of the M16 series, would you mind if I went ahead and phased out the older Model 715 picture and deleted it in favor of MPM's pic? It's rather redundant to have two pictures of the same weapon, especially when one is significantly higher-quality than the other. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:44, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

==The Killer==
The replica HPs must have been used by the triads. There is one good view of a HP. It appears to be a Inglis, judging from the front sight and finger notch on slide. They were imported into China during WWII. Interestingly they put an A1 style birdcage flash hider on the Norinco 56. Any of the trivia stuff you learned please add to the page.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:TK-HP.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is during the gun buy.]]

Yeah I think that modified revolver may be a Taurus also. Since most of the fired revolvers are Taurus. There are some really good close ups of some of the guns. Makes iding them easy.Other than some text and one or two images that need to be uploaded over. I'm through with it.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:56, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

==Disambiguation page==
I have created some disambiguation pages,eg, [[M3]] and [[Delta Force]] to improve page navigation in IMFDB. Considering the latter I used to hate when I typed to search the video game Delta Force when the site redirected me to the movie page Delta Force with the same name. So I am currently in the process of making disambiguation pages for pages with similar titles to make navigating pages easy. Ben41 asked me recieve the sysop's consent before undertaking this project.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 14:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

:I think we should keep the pictures in the disambiguation page atleast for the guns.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 06:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

==Lois & Clark: Tempus, Anyone?==
Where did you find the Gali AR? I couldn't find it, but is this the Gali AR (the one being waved by the man in the middle) in this screeencap? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 13:41, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Ruger-Mini-14LC.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

==RE:RE==
Thanks for the info. I was able to find more guns and a poster of guns in that episode. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 14:42, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

==General Information==
Shouldn't [[IMFDB Info - The History of M16s in Film and Television]] be added to GE? It's locked so reg users can't edit it.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 04:56, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:Another thing, the purpose of the General Information category was so a glossary of firearm terms could be made up. Nobody has created one. Should it just be called Glossary or Glossary - Firearm Terms? I figure a section for gun types, action, malfunction. I'm not sure what else. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I added it to general information category. MPM didn't want anyone else messing with that page is the reason why it was protected. Probably best to change it back to that.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:57, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

:What about a page for all gun related [[Abbreviations|abbreviations]].--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 06:50, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

==Beretta==
Sure. I can do that. By the way I have no idea what type of M16/AR15 they are using in [[Jesse Stone: Death in Paradise]]. Whne I was in the Army we had the M16A1, M16A2 and the M4 carbine. Truth be told I've stopped trying to follow all the different variations. So I will leave it to you or somebody else to figure out. Thanks. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:20, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks on the M4 info. I'll get that added. As you've probably gathered over the past few months my strength is in revolvers and the older firearms. The new stuff I can identify, but all the variants leave me cold. I think I stopped paying attention around 1995. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:29, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== User talk:99.12.124.133 ==

I hate to report this, but this user keeps creating pages with only a minimal amount of information and I'm not sure what to do. I hate to have to go and fix every page this user makes. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:38, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== ''Andromeda Strain'' ==

Thank you for your additions to ''[[Andromeda Strain, The (2008 Miniseries)|The Andromeda Strain]]''. I plan to rent & cap this sometime in the near future, but the extra work on the page is appreciated. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:10, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

:Thank you for capping this as well. I was planning to cap it myself, but the help is again appreciated. One minor note though; the name of the M1126 APC is spelled 'Stryker', like the name, not with an I. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:09, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

==Are you psychic? Part deax==
Again within SECONDS of me uploading a hero gun pic, you comment. Your Jedi Mind powers are starting to freak me out. I just flew back into the US this morning and I'm trying to adjust to the time zone change again. I'm also trying to fix the WWS page since I never liked the overdoing of the screencaps on that page. It held the record at one time, 36 shots of the same gun in one section. Ben41 and I am working on it since it is one of the most viewed pages on IMFDB. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:05, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

==AKs and Canucks==
Those AKs built for We Were Soldiers were built in 2002, so they could not have been in anything prior to that. They were built because the filmmakers, upon learning what we all know about Type 56s, etc. opted to have tons of real milled receiver guns built for the film's authenticity. The last time I saw them, they were the same color (i.e. wood furniture) so they're pretty easy to spot. As for replacing the real AK-47 pic, I'm trying to get a pic of a real example from an Army Museum, so that we have a real Soviet one for all those film entries that were done overseas over the years. I hate those jacked Type 1-3 examples, for one they don't represent what was actually a production model and they're also readily recognizable jacked images. But since the WWS AKs had that weird wood, I wouldn't replace the other pics just yet.

''BTW, I finally learned why Canadian movies and TV shows have so many Olympic Arms AR rifles''
....AND?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
mpm

== Heat ==
Thanks for the correction. I didn't realize I had put the Colt under the subgun category. I'm just going in and organizing some of the pages. I want to point out that I'm not changing any of the text or screencaps. But [[Heat]] and [[Ronin]] are some of our most viewed pages and they had different types of firearms scattered all over the page, Guess I'm just anal. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:38, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

== Virtuosity ==

I will take a look again at my screenshots to see if I have them. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 16:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

==nice to see you back==
I'm going a little stir crazy here. A lot of the veteran mods are MIA. Good thing we have some really great vet users who are trying their best to improve the site. Hahaha. I just got the Farcry DVD but I see you already did it. :) Does that mean you're back? :)[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:58, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== Armyguy277 user page ==
ok first of all the k4s were on the page becuse it was the clossest i could get to a C7/C8 and second WTF do you care it is my userpage --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 20:58, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
PS how do you tumb nail --[[User:Armyguy277|Armyguy277]] 20:58, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

==you da man!==
Now that I have some good pics of the gun, I have some chopped Type 56 barrels lying around here. I can put a post ban Type 56 front sight and an American Krinkov Muzzle brake on it. I have a messed up AK receiver that I do parts work on. Think I should build it? Don't know what to call it since it IS a 100% gunshop custom frankengun. Do you think calling it a Fake East German MPi-AKS-74NK is appropriate? I just thought it was the closest production AK variant to that monstrosity :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
==delete==
Need to delete this image, we already have an Inglis Hi-Power pic.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:45, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Browninghipower9mm.jpg
[[Image:Browninghipower9mm.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Browning Hi-Power - 9mm]]

[[Image:Armyguy277]]
ok thanks

==HK21==
I think HK21 needs its own page since it has three-four variants of its own (HK11,HK23,HK13,GR9). What do you think?--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 07:25, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

:BTW we should create a set of rules stating whether a gun should demand its own page or be redirected to another page for a gun from which the former gun was derived. Earlier there were many controversies regarding these redirects (though the FPK/PSL thing was my fault, it was actually a AK style receiver on close inspection) and these set of rules will define the place where a gun actually belongs to. For example, like the HK21 the PSG-1 is a modified G3 and happens to be in the G3 page, but it has a sub variant of its own (the MSG-90) and I believe it should have its own , separate page. And by doing this, pages like the AK-47, M16 and G3 will be brief in size too.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 07:48, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

== New Weapons Infobox Template ==
I just created a [[Template:Infobox Weapon|‎new weapons infobox]] template. Its just a modified version of the previous templates put together (since I don't know how to create one from scratch). It is only in the prototype stage and I will request help from other members, who know more about creating these templates.What do you think about the template? Should there be any new features?--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 09:21, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

==Carbines, Repeating Rifles==
I'm getting confused with repeating rifles and carbines and I am having trouble sorting out repeating rifles and carbines in [[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman|Lois & Clark]]. Here's some questions I have:
*1. Should carbines and lever-action repeating rifles go in the rifle section?
*2. Are semi-auto carbines like the [[Ruger Mini-14]] considered as rifles or assault rifles?
*3. Are carbines the same as rifles?

I hope I'll be able to sort them out once I find out about carbines and lever-action repeating rifles. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 22:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

==RE:==
I just created a separate page for the HK LMGs-
[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Heckler_%26_Koch_HK_series_machine_guns]
As for the template, I'm trying to take the extra space in consideration and add more IMFDB specific content to it.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 09:09, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

==Delete list==

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:VIDEO_TS_%28title_0_ch_2_frame_10157%29.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Punisher_M1911a.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:VIDEO_TS_%28title_0_ch_16_frame_75585%29.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:VIDEO_TS_%28title_0_ch_19_frame_88904%29.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:VIDEO_TS_%28title_0_ch_16_frame_73433%29.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:VIDEO_TS_%28title_0_ch_16_frame_73942%29.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Punisher_ShotgunA.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Punisher_AcetyleneGunA.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:VIDEO_TS_%28title_0_ch_19_frame_91493%29.jpg

Sorry about the long list. I use to upload over existing caps, but when there are several contributors and they label differently. It's more trouble than it's worth to sort.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:11, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

==Real-Time Strategy Computer Games Allowed?==
I was wondering if strategy games are allowed. There are some that have real weapons (such as Company of Heroes, which I'll try to do) and players can just zoom in to get good shots of the guns. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 00:08, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Lethal Weapon S&W ==

I was looking at the ''[[Lethal Weapon 2]]'' page not long ago and saw that the S&W was changed from a 5906 to a 659. I don't remember where I saw it (one of the discussion pages I think) but someone had wrote that the 5906 in Lethal Weapon 2 couldn't be possible at that time period so it had to be a 659. And then, seeing as Murtaugh used what I think was the same gun in ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]'', that's why I thought it was a 659. But seeing as you've just provided better evidence, I'll change it back lol. My mistake. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 18:08, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

==Should I have blocked this guy?==
He's an anonymous IP address and all he did was slowly, bit by bit, delete the entire discussion page of the VG. It struck me as weird, but I could be tired and cranky so I thought I would asked a few other Mods to see if I overreacted. I can always life the ban.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/72.9.28.64
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:16, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

==delete page==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Talk:Shoot_Em_Up

Someone started this talk page and had Russian language in it, I cleared it. But still needs to be deleted. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:29, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

==SIG cont.==
I checked that SIG out at the gun shop again. They had dropped the price from $600 to $570. But after looking over it better, all over the nickel slide, tiny spots of the finish are missing. Pretty poor gun. They have an all black one a little cheaper but it wasn't much better.

I found one on gun broker I really like for $575. Here is the description "Sig P220, West German Manuf. This Sig has been refinished by, CCR / Cummings Custom Refinish. There are no issues and was in Excellent Condition prior to Refinish as it is now, low round count and all Orginal factory parts."

pics.

[[Image:SIG220-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:SIG220-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

It's technically reverse two-tone by SIG standards, but norm for others. It's a $160 for the refinish job, not to mention shipping. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 18:38, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

:I've bought a few older guns off GB and I haven't had any problems. (knock on wood) Generally if the gun was really beat up prior to refinishing, it would still show. Also the grips should actually be the checkered style right? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:00, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

The all black P220 at the gun shop had Hogue finger groove grips, they were much too big for me. The two-tone had the pebble grain and it felt just right. The non finger groove Hogue's may be okay. A few hours before the two-tone SIG above goes out, there's an all black West German one with factory box, papers and two mags. It's in very good condition. It's at $350 right now, I may try to get it, depends on how crazy the bidding gets. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:23, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

[[Image:SIG220-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Well it looks like I'll be the two-tone SIG owner. I got into a bidding war with the black one above. Bowed out at $475 (it was back and forth). I figure the extra $100 on the two-tone would be worth it. Even if it didn't come with extra mag and box.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:33, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

::No prob on getting back to me. I like the two-tone much much better too. But I figured if I could have saved a 100 bucks or more, it would have been nice. But after getting outbid the last time on the black one, I was relieved --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:26, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

==This user==
Check out what this user did to the [[MAC-10]] page, I reverted his edits. Not sure what the punishment should be.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:17, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/69.92.163.96

== Crossing Over ==

Thanks for doing this page. I was going to do this page, and I started doing some screencaps, but I never got back to it. I just uploaded the pics I already had done, but you can go ahead and do the rest. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:49, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't have the DVD anymore, and that's all the ones I got to. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:58, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

==Delete==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:HD-AUG.jpg

Thanks--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:18, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Dear Wendy ==

Why did you delete [[Dear Wendy]]? That was work in progress, I was still doing the screencaps and now the page is gone! Great, now you really killed my effort. Next time, just wait one single day!

==AK's==
Any idea what these are? I usually go by the front sight to see whether it's hooded or not. But I can't tell. Also my SIG shipped yesterday, maybe it'll arrive by Fri.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:26, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:HD-WP-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:HD-WP-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
Here are some full screen shots. If they can't be identified then no biggie. Thanks for the help.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:03, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:HD-AK-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:HD-AK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:HD-AK-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Appreciate the help.

Also my SIG was supposed to be delivered Thurs. but my FFL guy wasn't there to sign for it, I guess. (gun transfers are a side business for him). So I probably won't be able to see it until Mon. to start the transfer. I hope it at least gets redelivered today. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:33, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

==Spades of Columbia==
[[Spades of Columbia]] I think this guy intended to make a user page. But made an actual page instead. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 18:47, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, I Love movie and know guns, but i am ignorant on computer codes and what not. I'm learning or at least trying to.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 00:57, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

==Thanks==
The SIG got redelivered yesterday. Funny thing, it came from NC. I hope I get to look at tomorrow. Have a happy 4th too. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

==22 AKs==
Nope there were a bunch, the ones imported by Mitchell Arms, I think, were the Armscorp ones made in the Philippines, and they looked like crap. Or the Italian Armi-Jager ones, also imported. Regardless, only the .22LR guns had that style of forearm. As for the Hudsons, I would demand proof of your assertion. I have every Hudson imported from the late 1970s on. They all look the same and they don't look anything like that. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:19, 5 July 2010 (UTC) (BTW, I'm typing this with no sleep so if I sound insane, forget it) You know what? I think they're the .22 style AKs with other types of mags jammed in.

==delete list==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Crazies_S%26W_14.jpg

From the trailer.

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:SniperRifle-Leibw%C3%A4chter-Cobra11.png

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:CodenameTiger-StetschkinAPS-Cobra11.png

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:RassmannSecurity-IMIUzi-Cobra11.png

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:MP5K-Leibw%C3%A4chter-Cobra11.png

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:DA012-CodenameTiger-Cobra11.png

I told the guy who uploaded the 5 above, to upload jpgs in the future, he offered to re-upload these as jpgs.

Also I get to pick up the SIG Thurs. It's one sexy gun. I'm not sure if its even be fired after the refinish, unless the finish from CCR is really that good.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:49, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

==delete tag==
How do I do it? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:02, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Got it thanks.

There's also the unused file section. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:UnusedImages --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:13, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== Daewoo Paratrooper ==

I moved your comment to the [[Talk:Driven_To_Kill|discussion page]]. Thank you for the help! --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 11:18, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

==Limited Time offer==
To only the most TRUSTED IMFDB fellow mods! ;) lOL. If you have a 'wish list' for pics you think the site needs desperately, shoot me a list. I've been busy, but I got a STACK of guns that I haven't photographed yet, including a WASR-3 that looks EXACTLY like Sascha Robey's gun, and a BUNCH of just general replacement pics. But I was thinking you might have a list that you really wanted. this is a limited time offer! :D The only problem with getting some of the BIG armory guns is that the guys really don't like it when I bother them to snap pics when they're neck deep in a big movie production. Gotta tread lightly there. :) On the photo front, I've 'fixed and cleaned up' some guns (and those are the ones I don't put the copyright disclaimer on so you know that I'm just cleaning up jacked images). Hope your summer is going well. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

==Predators Guns==
Hey Matt, The guns for Predators was supplied by ISS. I made the muzzle attachments on the Beretta 92 and the HK. Also made the mount on the AA-12 for the surefire grip/light. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Transformers 3==
Okay. I was SNOOKERED. Apparently this member LIAM who is [[User:moviemaster1993|moviemaster1993]] is a fanboy who created the facebook page himself, even though the page says the "OFFICIAL" transformers 3 facebook page, thus falsely implying that it is sanctioned by the studio. NOT being a sanctioned facebook page, immediately makes it suspect in my eyes and I vote for deletion. These behind the scenes photos were NOT released by the studio. They were personally taken by people on set and 'leaked'. The only reason why I did not ban it immediately was because I thought it was an officially facebook sanctioned page. ''' It is not.''' We can get into serious trouble if studio lawyers all of a sudden get pissed at IMFDB and start sending us 'cease and desist' letters to 'remove' all of our screencaps. That would spell the END Of IMFDB. All because of one fanboy idiot. But I wonder what you think about the matter "No Harm done?" or "delete" ? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

==public enemies?==
You never disclosed that anything was wrong, so this reference to an 'incident' is a mystery to me.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:01, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

==Screen used gun?==
Is this the screen used gun from Public Enemies?--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 18:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:John-Dillinger-1911A1-Full-Auto-Machine-Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
I did a search earlier. I think it came from this site. http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/tag/pistol/
--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
:Well I think Kilgore thought it was Dillinger's actual pistol not the screen used gun. It fucking blows you can't put the screen guns on the site. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:45, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Public Enemies ==

Here is the link[http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2010/03/29/colt-m1911a1-full-auto-pistol/]
. [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 00:17, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

:You're Welcome. And I already know that it was not Dillenger's Gun after doing some research, but I don't really care because I'll never be able to use it. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 00:33, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

==Willis Beretta==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:DH3-Beretta92FS.jpg
Didn't I replace this already? Or is this another version I missed? Help out my crappy memory. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:57, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Admin==
Yeah sounds good, thanks. Another user I'd recommend is User:Jcordell. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:38, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
:Got admin rights now. I just want to say thanks again for the recommendation. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

==Another RE: Admin==
Sure thing. Very flattering. Thanks.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:45, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Great. Looking forward to it. Now I'll have something new to learn. And now I can create a category for Australian movies. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:14, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Also I think Ben41 would be a good addition. He and I have been working together on several pages the last few weeks and he seems like a good guy. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:16, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the recommendation. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

== PNG images ==

You can delete the PNG images I uploaded now.

[[:Image:Carnosaur3M16.PNG|50px]]
[[:Image:Carnosaur3Sniper2Ak47.PNG|50px]]
[[:Image:Carnosaur3SniperAk47.PNG|50px]]
[[:Image:CarnosaurRanceM4A1.PNG|50px]]
[[:Image:Carnosaur3PolcheckwSPAS12.PNG|50px]]
[[:Image:Carnosaur3TerroristRPG.PNG|50px]]

--[[User:ScratteLover|ScratteLover]] 14:08, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

== Image name syntax ==
I think we should better make it '''mandatory''' for all the names of the screenshot images being uploaded to IMFDB to have a proper syntax, bearing both the movie/television series/game's name and the guns name. Just check out today's recent changes you will a couple of images bearing names such as 'Blaser R93','UMP' and 'G36C', but in fact they are screenshots. I believe that a proper syntax will group common screenshots together and will not club with a gun image bearing the same name.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 16:21, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

:Yeah, we should make it a rule and display it in bold letters in the upload file page as well.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 15:22, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

:Sorry, couldn't reply earlier as I was too busy with CODBO. Yeah, that's fine. As I said earlier we should put a note of it in the upload file page as well (isn't Bunni the only one who can do this?). BTW we already have rule-breaker with EliteCrew.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 16:16, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

== Image:M1917 Enfield Rifle - .30-06.JPG ==

Originally I was trying to upload this as new version of '''Image:M1917enfield.jpg''' and I messed up and uploaded it as a seperate image. Can you delete it at once. Thanks. Also, when I uploaded as a new version of '''Image:M1917enfield.jpg''', it showed it as the old version of picture. I was never good at uploading new versions of pictures. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 21:42, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

==Help me out on House of the Dead==
What would you say this is? :D
[[Image:HOTD-SilverKahr9pocket.jpg|thumb|none|400px| ]]
[[Image:HOTD-SilverKahr9.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
[[Image:HOTD-Kahr9tone.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
[[Image:HOTD-Kahr9Shot22Tone.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
[[Image:HOTD-Twotone-pistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]
Any good guess would help me. My brain is firing out of sync for some reason when I look at these screencaps! ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

==CW and Die hard with a Vengeance ==
From what I remember, CW purchased the guns from WS when they were done. There is a lot of internal selling and swapping going on, but only between guys who are friendly with each other. :) Now I annoy everyone ;P LOL but I do loan out stuff to other armories who are short of stuff. :D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:49, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

==Type 56==
I was reading the list of your weapons and noticed you mentioned your Type 56 was "Pre-Ban". Just out of curiosity, are you reffering to the ban on imported Chinese weapons or the ban on automatic weapons? At first I assumed the former but then I realized I've never seen a semi-automatic only Type 56 (not that I have anywhere near enough experience for that to indicate they don't exist). -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

==Reply==
Thanks for the clarification. I thought you were talking about the import ban but wasn't sure. In addition to the assult weapons import ban I think there was another ban that prevents any weapons, including sporting arms like the Norinco coppy of the Winchester 1887, from being imported from China. I would have to double check that information though. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

== PersonOfInterest ==

What did he do this time?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:45, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Axeman and Lost images ==

On the [[Lost]] page, the user Axeman keeps reverting the screencaps back to originals he put up. Axeman's images weren't cropped and were too dark. I put up a comparison of his images next to mine on the Lost Discussion page. I think mine would be preferable, but I want to get some other opinions. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:40, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

==POI again==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/PersonOfInterest2

I went ahead and banned him, you should look at what he said on the Bond talk page, he should have went to you first and made his plea.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 12:57, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

==Now that I have Nickel M1911s==
What grips do you want me to photograph them with? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:13, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

==gun discussions==
Thanks for making that thread. Unless it has to do with the actual page itself shouldn't the discussions be deleted? Like in [[Talk:M1911 pistol series]] there's two sections "Versus modern pistols" & "Controversy igniter" while it has do with 1911 and isn't a hate discussion, but they're not related to actual page. IMFDB isn't guntalk. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:I don't mind an intelligent discussion, but the problem with it being on the wiki instead of the forums. Some users don't sign their post so you have no idea who's saying what, unless you check the history. Another user change someone else's post wayy too easily. With the forum you can reply with quote so you know which comment was directed to whom. We have much more control on the forums when it comes to discussions, which is its main purpose.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 13:26, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

==Regarding a Mod's removal of a trivia section==
I have contested Orca's removal of the Canadian dogtags trivia from the [[X2: X-Men United]] page citing the rules standards and principles and here is a direct quote from the Rules, Standards and Principles page:

* Trivia related Images: Exceptions are trivia shots, but Trivia sections should be kept to a minimum and should be of general interest to movie buffs and not just re-iterate information that is on the DVD commentary. Acceptable trivia can mention military aircraft, vehicles and equipment in a film or television show or generally unknown information about a show or video game that is weapons related in nature, however small amounts of general trivia that is related to the scene is acceptable.

Orca removed it because it is "Not Gun Related" even though the rules allow for small bits of trivia esp. if they are military related.
I am forwarding this you because I have messaged Orca, and he has yet to respond even though I messaged him a couple days ago.

--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 18:51, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

== spammer? ==

[[User:PearlMooney]]

Don't know what to think of it. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:24, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

==Did you see this?==
[http://www.originalprop.com/blog/2008/06/21/little-johns-auction-service-june-2007-event-catalog-the-world-famous-]

Ben sent this to MPM, it's quite an extensive list. Not all of it seems like it would be correct like a Desert Eagle is listed as being used in Predator (which they did), but also [[The Deer Hunter]]. It wasn't even around yet. But in some, it could be useful, like it says a Glock 21 was used in [[Eraser]] instead of G17 that we have listed. It also had the shotgun he used but the folding stock is gone. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:18, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

:Another thing I didn't get, both the DE's shown had 14" barrels, I've never seen one used in a film. (Always the standard 6", would be cool if they did.) In [[Predator]] and [[Extreme Prejudice]] they both had DE's but neither showed them with those barrels. I guess the frames and slides were used in the film but the barrels changed out. Also the G21 in Eraser has the dummy suppressor used so that's probably correct. I scanned through most of it, I would guess 80% to 90% is probably correct. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 05:32, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
::hmmm.. I haven't seen Eraser in a while. Was the scene of him loading the gun an insert shot? That may have been the reason for the different Glocks, but they all look alike to me anyway :). I stopped in my local gun shop yesterday and handled a Gen2 G21 and Springfield XDM .45. The XDM while it felt slide heavy it had so much better of a grip than the Glock. I'm not sure if the SF version and Gen4 would be much of an improvement. I hate to even stop in there, there is always something I want to get. They have S&W 1911 Commander I really really want. Thinking about trading in the DE and Para to get it, I'm tired of those guns. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:35, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

==M1911A1 disclaimer==

I'm thinking about adding this to the [[M1911A1]] section. LMK what you think. I'm not really satisfied with the wording.

''Note many in the list below could actually be Colt Mark IV Series 70/80 Government Models, Springfield Armory, or another manufacturer. Instead of a former military issued M1911A1, unless its a war film. Since the markings of the gun aren't always clear, M1911A1 is a catch-all term. Being most 1911 manufacturers pistols are based off the M1911A1 platform.''

--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:46, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

:Usually we can spot the Model B. but they could slip by. The Mark IV Series 70 in 9mm while it was available they aren't all that common, I very rarely see them come up for sale. (maybe the armories bought them all). Also while it's hard to do because of the breech face, a .45 can be converted to 9mm. Maybe with a blank conversion it's very common. Because they are doing all kinds of filing down and such. This is from the [[Cobra]] talk page. ''"I would say that it's one of Stembridge 9mm conversions of a Colt Series 70 Cold Cup. I have seen some of there barrels in the junk bin as they '''converted 45 to 9mm'''. I will check it out tomorrow the 18th and get back to you.- [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]"'' A lot of them being chambered or converted to 9mm sounds like good mention. But when did actual .45 1911's become reliable with blanks? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 04:33, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

:::I remember MPM saying they often borrow from each other, so certain rare variants may come from specific armories. Looking at the Stembridge auction list, in Magnum P.I. and Blues Brothers they used 9mm Series 70, while a lot of Seagal films had .45 Series 70. So I guess it wasn't until the mid to late 80s .45s were reliable enough to be used. In the auction list there was also several Series 80 9mm that weren't converted to blanks (I guess future conversions). I'm going to ask Phoenixent what was the most common 1911 model in Stembridge's inventory. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:25, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Steve gave me a bunch of useful info. I'm going to use that disclaimer as I have it written, then expand on it later with the 9mm stuff. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:48, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Should we just use the summary Steve made? Maybe take out just the info the regarding Stembridge's inventory. Somethings could be reworded but we would have to ask to Steve if that's okay with him. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:03, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The only thing I reworded was the 45 to 9mm conversion and took out the info about Stembridge. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:20, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

In early gangster films Colt 1911's were not converted to blanks but were still live fire weapons. This was before live rounds were prohibited on film sets. The 1911's and 1911a1 are a delayed blow back weapon and were more difficult to convert than the straight blow back pistol like the Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless. The .45 ACP blanks were made from a cut down .30-06 cartridge and were mainly used in the Colt Thompson Submachine Guns but the 1911 had some issues due to the hard rifle primers. So most 1911 and 1911A1's used in films prior to 1950 fired only one shot since they were not converted to blanks or a mock up 1911 that has a small revolver inside an aluminum shroud to stand in for a 1911 when firing multiple rounds. About 1950 the Star Model B was brought in to the US for sale and several studios and armories purchased these since 9mm blanks worked and a conversion on a delayed blow back weapon was developed. From 1950 through the mid 80's the Star Model B, Colt 9mm and Colt .38 Supers with a 9mm barrel were used. Around 1985 a new .45 blank cartridge was developed that used a large pistol primer allowing the armories to activate their 1911's to fire reliably. Conversions from .45 to 9mm were tried prior to this but had problems due to the larger breach face in the 45 slide compared to the 9mm slide. The rentals of 9mm 1911 pistol have slowed down since the .45 came on line but they still go out on shows when a Propmaster wants to limit the amount of different blanks on set.
:Alright check the rewording. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 04:48, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== I don't understand ==
I apologize if I offended you, but I've seen MANY pages that have witty remarks on them, and saying "Rulers are SO 1950's" I don't consider offensive. I have written comments like this before, and no one ever cared. Again, I'm sorry, but I'd appreciate an explaination of why it was "Vandalism".
--[[User:Glock172|Glock172]] 05:19, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

==Golden closet credit for Scarface shotgun==
Curious as to why we credited them when we really don't have any of their stuff on the page (i.e. the photos of the Zebala shotgun). Those are all mine. I thought we credited them and made links for them when we used their photos. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:31, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry about the stupid anon, IMFDB tends to log me out mysteriously when I'm typing. You were right to assume that since no other person would claim that the photos on the page were theirs.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:31, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Are you going to answer my question or not? There is a notation about the shotgun "This exact weapon was also rented to film and television productions prior to and after the release of Scarface." but no other information is offered. GC's website doesn't list any other credits. Also the tribute to GC is listed twice. Once on the paragraph and again on my photograph. This portrays the erroneous impression that they provided the photograph. I am removing this section (blurb on the photo). Also the impression is that they are the only ones to document the screen usage of the gun, which again is untrue. we can list a link to their auction, but they really did nothing other than offer additional documentation on the weapons we already had on the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:34, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

==Tricky wording==
Well you don't want to overpander to GC. The wording sounds like you're giving them credit for my work which as you know, can cause problems. I intend to do some editing of those sections which are overtly offensive if it's alright with you. MPM

== Category:Movie ==

I added the a to z function to it, but it's not centered, any ideas?--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:44, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:Also it works for all pages not just movies. I'm not sure how to create a new one that works for films only.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:49, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
::The Movies Guns Actors etc is okay, but the alpha list isn't for some reason. Maybe it's the computer? I took the a to z list from the main page which is centered for me. I don't know, I'm not worried about it too much, an anonymous user wanted the list there. Also have you talked to Chris about all the spammers on the forum?--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:18, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I logged out and it's fine! Do you see the advertisements when you're logged in? I don't, I thought I was missing out when y'all when talking about them and I didn't see them.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:23, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Yep that's what I was talking about and you do see the ads. Go to your preferences (beside your talk page) and change the skin to modern. Instead of your stuff being on the left it will be on the right, might take out the ads too. I never see any ads when I'm logged in. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:29, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I messed up I meant to say your user page, talk etc instead of being on the right it will be on the left. (Typing and thinking at the same time is hard for me) Even though you don't have the IMFDB logo. I have used the modern skin for the longest time. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:40, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

==AK buying==
It will be a few months away, but figured I would go ahead and nag ya. (I just bought two Korean 75 round drums that were one sale for $50 apiece from AIM, so I have got to get one to make the drums worthwhile) You said the Chinese Poly Techs are great and I think it was the Hungarian's too? Used or new doesn't really matter. I didn't want to spend more than $800. But if the right one came along I could see spending a little more. This one on gunbroker looked great, http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=205633083 What about the Norinco's? Besides the Arsenal Saiga are there any in current production worth looking at? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:29, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
:cont... Alright I did a bit of searching on prices. Whoever listed that Polytech Legend for a 1k, fucked up. Most list at 2k or close to it. In the book of gun values they list the standard Poly's at $1300 (100% condition), the Legend at $1900. I don't really care whether it's milled or stamped, but fuck that was a good deal.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:55, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
::No that wasn't me sadly. I was searching completed auctions and that one came up, it sold at the beginning of Dec. I have gotten a few good deals, but I'm never that lucky. My username on GB is Predator20 also. Yours is a Legend but has the the stamped receiver? I'm just reading from the Gun Values book it says the Poly Tech AKS is the semi-auto version of the Chinese AKM (Type 56), while the Legend is the semi-auto version of the original AK-47 which I thought meant milled only.

::Yes it's amazing what banning a firearm can do to prices, the PT's last MSR was $400 and $550, but that was 20 years ago. All the current PT prices on gunbroker seem out of line, of course that's because of that one above. It will a few months before I'm able to get one. Unless that super great deal comes along. Even though there are plenty of cheap ones around, I'd rather spend the few extra dollars and get better quality. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

==AKMS vs Norinco==
How many times are you going to change that page back? :) That slant muzzle brake throws people off, if I was you I'd tell Ben. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 04:45, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
:I have corrected him a few times on 1911s, particularly the Low Down Dirty Shame page. AKs are your bag. As much work as he does he deserves a little slack.

Also even though I heard good things about the Russian Arsenal AKs, a guy on youtube did a video on one, he couldn't swap parts from his WASR and other AK onto it. So Arsenal made them so you would have to buy their parts, forget all that.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

== Norinco Type 56 section ==

Should we add a note saying the Type 56 was originally manufactured with a milled receiver, since we don't have a pic of one? A lot of the Vietnam films with Norinco's generally have the milled. [[Platoon]], [[Uncommon Valor]], [[Good Morning Vietnam]].
[[Image:GB VC AK47 5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A VC Guerrilla trains his AK-47 on 'Doc' Jordan ([[Austin Farwell]]), giving us a good look at the muzzle and forward stock that confirms it as an AK, rather then the Chinese variant, the Norinco Type 56.]]
Isn't that a Type 56 above? the front sight looks hooded.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:05, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

==Hacker's shotguns==
I don't think those are 870s.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 07:25, 9 March 2011 (MSK)
[[Image:S&W3000shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Smith & Wesson 3000 shotgun - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:Hackers-870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The bolt doesn't look rounded like the 870s, the forend reminds me of the Smith & Wesson 3000. Which are close to the 870.]]
[[Image:Hackers-870-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Agent with a Remington 870 tries to restrain Joey when he tries to stop another Agent from taking away "Lucy" (his computer).]]
[[Image:HatsanGuardWithBrownSyntheticStock.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Hatsan Escort Guard Shotgun (standard finish) - 16 gauge (Brown Synthetic Stock)]]
[[Image:Hackers-870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This one has an extended tube, but it looks to be one piece (like they way Ithaca's are). 870s with tube extensions are always two piece, at least that's the way they are on the 12 gauge models. This doesn't look like a 12 gauge so that could be it.]]
:edit I think it could be a Hatsan, not sure if the earlier models had an unsupported tube. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 08:16, 9 March 2011 (MSK)

== Hackers Black screen? ==

For some reason, the following screenshot comes up as a black screen. It was a screenshot showing the M16SP1 from the movie [[Hackers]]. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:41, 9 March 2011 (MSK)
[[File:Hackers-M16SP1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Secret Service enters Grand Central Station, as seen from above. The SWAT officer circled in red appears to have an early M16 (recognizable by the "slab side" receiver), instead of the M16A1s and M16A2s used by the others.]]
:Man I tried to re-upload this. To see what I would get. I get this warning message repeated several times. "Warning: imagesx(): supplied argument is not a valid Image resource in /home/imfdb/public_html/w/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 231" Something about that image this site doesn't like.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 13:14, 7 April 2011 (CDT)

==Street Kings/Dark Blue 1911==
I think it's the same one, (all the features match anyway), I figured the guy who uploaded it would put it on the Street Kings page. Also a South African armourer signed up on the site. Lance Peters, he's going to get some pics of the modified Vektor R5's mocked up like AK's. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:19, 12 April 2011 (CDT)

== Forum topic ==

I'm waiting for approval to post on the forums, and I don't think Burt has quite explained what he's doing: he opposes the use of the ''term'' "RPG" to describe anything but RPG-X weapons, because he thinks you should only read it as the Russian meaning rather than the more common "rocket propelled grenade" (which I'm fairly sure the US Army would have some issues with, since they call projectiles and launchers RPGs all the time). He's therefore removing all references to the Type 69 or its projectiles being RPGs, which isn't correct. While you might not always say "Norinco type 56 assault rifle" you wouldn't remove the words "assault rifle" from a caption because it was ''wrong''. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 22:41, 13 April 2011 (CDT)

*Further to that, here's something fun: PersonOfInterest's last activity is [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PersonOfInterest 26th August 2010]. He made a new account and came back (and got banned again) just under a month later on [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PersonOfInterest2 September 28th]. [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&dir=prev&target=BurtReynoldsMoustache Burt's first edit is a month and four days later] and he's soon back to editing Goldeneye and the N64 The World Is Not Enough, which were POI's weird little obsessions; he also remembers me as a "troublemaker;" PersonOfInterest was fond of calling me that. [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=upload&user=PersonOfInterest&page=&year=&month=-1 PersonOfInterest uploaded exactly 9 files in his whole time here, none of then screenshots]; so far, Burt has uploaded absolutely nothing to the site since last November. He also has that POI quirk of often taking two tries to sign talk page edits, if he bothers to sign them at all (look for places where he edits a talk page twice in a row, including his first two edits). Interesting, huh? Another little thing: [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:007:_The_World_Is_Not_Enough&diff=prev&oldid=363154 the user who posted the top comment was PersonOfInterest]. How come "both" of them think this is the right way to say things on a talk page? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:49, 15 April 2011 (CDT)

**Nope, I still get the "Evil Tim, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:" box come up when I try to post. Also, I screencapped [[Black]] at last; I've got a new capture device that lets me record video good enough to actually use for capturing from rather than having to stick with the rather grainy stuff I had to settle with for Dark Sector. This means that all those console games nobody has the equipment to screencap can have pictures. Well, all the ones I own / can sensibly get hold of, at least. :D [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:30, 15 April 2011 (CDT)

==MP-25 image==
Is that your personal Raven Arms MP25 image? I was just asking in that it looks rather horrible (not the image quality but the condition of the firearm! LOL! :) ) That's a really beat up gun! hahahaha. I was going to photograph a pristine MP-25 that I found in inventory. But I wanted to check first. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:03, 3 May 2011 (CDT)
:hahahaha, I was WONDERING if you went over to the DARK SIDE and started liking those 'cool' gangsta pistols that all the MS-13 dudes carry in their pants falling down around their butts! LOL! Holy CRAP! That's a beat up gun! What are those NY productions doing over there?! LOL [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:24, 3 May 2011 (CDT)

==Trapdoor Springfield Flintlock==
You had mentioned in the forums a while back that you had a picture of a Trapdoor Springfield Flintlock that was used in ''[[Pirates of the Caribbean]]'' films, but you didn't put it up because the page kept being deleted. Is it possible that you can post it now? Thanks.

--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 20:55, 1 June 2011 (CDT)

== Trapdoor Springfield Flintlock Pistol ==

Thanks. I'll be putting this on the page. You wouldn't happen to know which Pirates movie it was used in? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:21, 2 June 2011 (CDT)

== Readcted Discussion. ==

Hi
Thanks for the comment on my profile explaining your removal of my discussion on Redacted.
The removal of the entire discussion proved unquestionably for me what I was fearing most and trying to prevent on this site. I am sure you are smart enough to deduce what that thing is for people like me - whatever you wish to call us.

I was originally planning to leave this site with a much nastier rant about all you people and what I predict for you and this site in the near future. However, there is enough nastyness and hate in the world, so the best way to go is witha good note.

I will try to close my account here, and I wont bother going to any forum to argue with any of you. Can I please finally ask you to please close my account for me if I don't manage to do it myself (I am by far no computer or tech wizard).

Goodbye mate, and take care of yourself. [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 16:02, 8 June 2011 (CDT)

:Hi again. Did end up coming back on this site to check if my account is closed or not, and yeah did manage to read your message and here I am responding to it. I can argue against everything you said, but it will definately be a waste of my time and probably your too. Regarding 'what I fear most and trying to stop on this site', I was refering to a fusion of ignorance, extremism and censorship. I'm sure you'll disagree, but that is just my viewpoint. My English is actually quite good, I just guessed you'd figure it out without the need for me to explicitly state it.

:I am also not quite sure what you mean by a "martyr complex", I have no desire to die for anything or making a martyrdom out of being banned from this website. That would be downright laughable, as I have quite openly requested for my account to be closed, rather than being banned for speaking my "radical leftist" viewpoint. Besides which, even if I was that indignant as to claim I've been banned for political reasons, who would really care, and how can something so insignificant on the world wide web make any difference to this site.

:So again I request that can you please close down my account or ban me on request. Alternatively, I guess I'll just change my password to something really long that I wont remmeber and logging out.

:Either way, goodbye and take care of yourself.
:Peace. [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 10:48, 9 June 2011 (CDT)

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Python ... sorry Predator20 .... I am just learning how to use this site. would like to set up a page like yours ! beats Facebook !!! I do have a page (I thought) "Canecorso" .... any help would be awsome !
Thanks

==RE: SIG cont.==

It looks pretty nice! I've always loved the "reverse" two-tone SIGs (like the one in ''[[2 Fast 2 Furious]]''). That being said, if it says "Made in West Germany", that means it was made before 1989. Are you OK buying such an old gun that you can't inspect up-close? I'm kinda paranoid about buying guns that I can't inspect first, but if you're OK with it, then go for it. It's definitely a good-looking piece, and I think no gun collection without a SIG is ever complete (though I have an obvious bias).

Also, CCR does a great job on finishes (my 226 had its slide re-finished by them). If they did any work on the gun, it's probably in good shape, but personally, I would rather try it before I buy it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

:The checkered style gives a better grip, but you can't use the newer trigger bar springs with them (only the old ones, which have a tendency to break after extended usage). My recommendation is that when you get the gun, ditch the "pebble" grips and put on a set of Hogues (provided your hand is big enough). That's what I've got on my 226 right now. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

::Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but I like the two-tone one better. I think you made the right choice. And yeah, don't get the finger groove Hogues, those are too big. The regular Hogues are also pretty thick, but they do improve the grip. In my opinion, they're superior to the factory grips. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

==RE:==

Blocked him. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:26, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

:I would need to see either the receivers or the sight to be sure. If they're real guns, they're most likely to be Norinco Type 56s. But if they're replicas, probably Hudson model gun AK-47s. Also, hope you enjoy the SIG; post pics when you get it! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

::Looked at 'em closely. They have milled receivers, so my guess is that they're the Hudson AK-47 replicas. When there's multiple types of a certain weapon in a scene, you're usually looking at replicas of some sort. Like, if there's a cache of M16s, there's usually going to be some MGC replicas. Same with the AKs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:48, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

::They are NOT Hudsons. I have Hudsons. I will post a pic of a Hudson soon. Those are .22 LR clones (not the new ones, but the old ones from the 1980s). Not Armscorp but I think some other company, perhaps Armi-Jager. The handguards are indicative of the strange .22LR clones of the AK from decades ago. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

:::Corrected that problem. Also, hope you get the SIG soon. At least you live in a state that has sane handgun laws. NC's are just...well, retarded. Oh, and happy 4th! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

:::Got 'em. In the future, though, can you also put the delete tag on them? I'm kinda busy this week (on the road a lot) and don't know how often I can be on the site. If you put the delete tag on, then at least another admin can get them if I'm not around.

:::Can't wait to see the SIG. Hope it serves you well. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

::::Just put <nowiki>[[Category:Delete]]</nowiki> on the picture (hit "Edit" and type it in). You can still point me to it, but this way, if I'm not around, someone else might see it. This is the page listing all the stuff with the Delete tag: http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Category:Delete -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== Featured Article ==

Sure, feel free to edit the photos. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:18, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pinko ==

Well the guy is definitely British, or some kind of influence in his language. I know they are the only countries that calls us Americans "Yanky", but the way he writes is definite up there and only UK uses the worse arse [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for heads up. I'll check my other uploads. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:11, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Hunter ==

I've actually been considering making it a featured article; should I do it by season or the show as a whole? I'd go by season but I don't know if that'd be wise since not many people have heard of it. Then again, it may be a nice way to introduce people to the show and show off some of the various firearms used. What would you recommend? - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 15:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

==New anonymous member==
I checked ALL of the other edits and everything else seems okay. it seems like he's learning the system and how to edit on IMFDB. That one you caught is a pretty big screwup, but so far none of the other edits are vandalism. I will try to keep an eye on him, but he must just be another noob who is unsure how to do the pages correctly. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:09, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

==RE:==

Thanks for that info. I'm suddenly not sure whether I should do anything, though. As far as I'm concerned, if the people who wanted me to take down the original image want to get angry at this other guy, that's his problem. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:40, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

==Admin==

Hey, Brian, I have a question: Do you want an Administrator position? I think you're actually overdue for the promotion, and we need good people like you on the Admin team. If you want, I can email Bunni to ask him to give you the new status. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

:Good idea! I also asked Ben41 if he wanted it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks for the vote of confidence ==
Thanks for putting in the good word. Guess we're going to have to learn something new. Should be fun. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

== Admin rights ==

you has em. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 16:05, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

==BTW - a belated Congratulations on your promotion to Mod==
Now you will have to fight the trolls/idiots/fanboys even MORE! hahahahaha(evil laugh). Congratulations!!!! MPM

==Delete section==
I found a bunch of pages and screenshots not deleted by anyone here: [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Category:Delete]. Unfortunately, I rarely see admins go there. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 15:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

==Stan's wacko watch==

Hey man, remember me? Maybe not. Interesting how massive one's talk page gets when they become an Admin.. Congrats on that BTW. That said, I figure I'll let you know about this (if you don;t already), and I suppose you can pass it on to MT2008 and the others. Anyway, I think there's a problem with [[Special:Contributions/76.121.27.16|76.121.27.16]] - He's been warned several times before to stop uploading/posting redundant gun images on pages (I just remembered MT was one of the ones who's warned him), yet he's kept on doing it. He's done a handful just earlier today that I've reverted back. I hate tattling on another guy but I have have a feeling I'm not the only one he's annoyed with this crap. The guy does seem to add to the site and all, but I just don't like him continuing to do this stuff, it's kind of irritating. So, well, there ya go. Again, I just remembered MT told about this a few months back, but it seems he didn't care to listen, so, I don't know. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 00:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

: Ah, good. Thanks, man. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 03:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

:: I found a vandal [[Special:Contributions/75.31.96.25|75.31.96.25]] - He just made one comment, but it's a rather tasteless one and should probably be hit on the head with the banhammer anyway. Another good anonymous guy edited it out already, but, thought I'd let you know. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

:::- Another one [[Special:Contributions/71.91.170.82|71.91.170.82]] - he's removed content from pages, which I've reversed. I warned him on his talk page but you should probably keep an eye on him. Or just ban him, your choice I guess. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

::- Got another dude who's apparently flipped his shit lately. However, the dude's made shitty comments elsewhere and I've also had to revert sections he's deleted before, too. - [[Special:Contributions/173.62.63.157|173.62.63.157]]. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 04:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Already terminated [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:54, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
::- Ah. Well, I guess it's nevermind then, Pred. Maybe you'll get the pleasure of the next one, heh. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 00:04, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

: - I know you got this one already (74.63.112.138), but damn if this comment didn't give me a chuckle (''can i request i be a mod? cause you know im awesome so yea. just tell me when thats done k? k...peace bro'') Bah. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

::- Yeah, you have a real fun job, now! ;D [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

== Stevens 520/620 Shotgun ==

The Stevens 520/620 is a John Browning design. The 520 went on the market in 1904 and was discontinued in 1932. The 620 was a more streamlined version. The abrupt angle at the rear of the reciever on the Model 520 was eliminated with the 620.Other than that the 520/620 are mechanically identical. The 520/620 was manufactured in 12, 16 and 20 gauge. The 620 was discontinued in 1955. Both models were avilable in riot configuration and sport/field configuration. I saw you post on Nyles discussion page. Also I think a 520/620 page is a great idea. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 02:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

== Stevens 520 ==

As I understand it (and I'm a little fuzzy on the details myself as there's not all that much info available), the 520 was the original model with the stepped receiver, and the 520-30 was the later model with the flat receiver (pictured). Very cool shotguns, actually - they were designed by John Moses Browning and were actually the first side-ejecting hammerless guns on the market. They were made 1904-1932 and then another production run in the 40s for the US Army in trench gun configuration. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]

==Russian Spammer==
Hahaha. Good job on the ban hammer! You seemed unsure whether or not that Spammer you blocked was really a spammer. I speak Russian and can read it only so so. But that entire blurb was a nonsensical paragraph about how to buy cars. It was definitely SPAM. Funny since our Russian user Kloga has argued that he has 'never seen any Cyrillic Spam on IMFDB' LOL! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 15:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Front Page ==

I added [[Stargate SG-1]] yesterday and was wondering: What articles qualify for the random featuring? Obviously games are out of the question. And they have to have a certain standard. But: Is a certain length (amount of firearms), or completion of details like cross linking (actor pages etc.) necessary, too? I did not find anything about this in the rules. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 08:04, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

: Thanks for the info. I´d go with
: [[Image:KingdomHK912.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Fleury takes aim at the terrorists Mercedes.]]
: and [[Image:Sombra13.jpg|thumb|400px|none|A Saudi police officer with his SIG SG 552.]]
: Also: There seems to be something odd going on with the featured article frame. From time to time the place appears blank. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:16, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Blank feature article ==
If I remember correctly, it´s on the FeaturedArticle and the Main page. The thing is that the frame is ''empty''. So I can not tell whether it is a specific movie or just a single line of coding that is messing it up.

btw.: Can only admins redirect pages or change the title of one? Driven To Kill should - according to IMDB - be Driven to Kill. No capital T. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:52, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
Okay. thanks for the head up. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:35, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== TOC format ==

What works for me is putting "Film Title" first, putting the poster info right underneath, and then the TOC br clear=all. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 20:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

== Combining Grindhouse ==
Since the two films were released overseas and on video as separate films, I think it would be best to keep them as separate pages and put a link to the Grindhouse page. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 21:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
: They're already on the page. I done that as one of my first deeds here. :) --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 21:47, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:: And how many pictures of Hobo should be scrapped? :( --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 21:50, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::: About Hobo - OK, i'll delete something. :) --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 21:55, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::::: Wait, wait, wait! 6 pictures of ALL the trailer is the maximum, or you mean just the Hobo's Shotgun pictures? If the first variety - it's terrible. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 22:00, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::: Done. Even 5, not six. :) By the way, I'll found that video of Werewolf Women of the SS is officail - it from Rob Zombie's channel. Can i restore the pictures from this trailer. I was trying to write about it to [[User:Ben41|Ben41]], but he's ignoring me. :( --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 22:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

==Beretta 92FS==
It was you who identified it in [[Grindhouse]]? Just wanted to know how did you do that (if it's you, of course). :) --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 13:55, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
: Thanks for your answer. It's exciting to know such details. I do know, that many guns have their own features, but sometimes it's hard to tell what is that features and it's hard to know all, like that one with the exposed barrell in 92FS.
Also wanted to ask - is it a kind of ethics or something for this site to credit, who recognised the gun (if it's not the permanent writer of an article), like in the Miami Vixe series first season article? --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 21:21, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

==Re:Total Recall/Goncz==

(From above section) Have you checked out the deal with the [[Total Recall]] page? I posted a bit extra myself in the [[Talk:Total Recall|Talk]] page, but, oh man, I really hope it ain't that serious.

: I agree, I feel we have an obligation to note the Claridge info as a resource for background on the gun itself. But, I guess that may not remain so. Well, lets just say it got be a bit perturbed. I remember what one banned member (movieman1993 or something) said that 'we wouldn't get legal problems you fools!' or something to that effect. Bah, wish he was here just so we could prove him wrong. Oh well, I guess we'll see what MPM and Bunni do. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I think it's odd and we really don't know if the poster is really Goncz. But I' sure we'll get it worked out. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Actor Page==

Well, I had to take off almost right after I set up the page. But, I probably would have forgotten to search so I appreciate the help, and I'll keep that in mind next time. Thanks, man. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:46, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

==Lame page makers==
How much you wanna bet that all these noob IMFDB members who make pages for kids movies, either Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network, are all around the age of a 7th grader? I recently deleted a project which wasn't even a movie, it was a video taken by a 7th grade class as part of a school project. I was stunned that the page maker took the project as being one of serious merit (and their spelling and grammar sucked) so I assumed the originator was a kid. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Boxcar Bertha ==

I'm fairly certain it's a [[Remington Model 10]]. Look at the reciever and the end of the barrel. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:22, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

[[Image:Remington Model 10.jpg|thumbnone|300px|]]

Okay it's done.Now I need to make a page for the Model 10. For some reason I thought there was already one.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 16:27, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh and now there is a [[Remington Model 10]] page. Great.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:54, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

== CC Revolvers ==
Snagging can be overcome with practice, but why when there are so many great hammerless and concealed hammer models now days. If you plan on shooting your concealment piece frequently I would suggest one of the S&W J frames. Personally I like the 649 or 49 and there are still many lightly used S&W J frames out there that will cost you a anywhere from a couple hundred to several hundred dollars less than a new one. The 38/638 is a good gun, but the alloy frame isn't as sturdy as the all steel if you're looking at a lot of shooting. Also if you can find one of the Ruger SP101 with the 2.25" barrel with the DA hammer you have a good little revolver there. However alot of folks prefer the trigger action on the S&W revolver. I prefer Smith & Wesson, but I appreciate Ruger and aknowledge that the company makes a very solid and strong revolver.Just remember that the Ruger is heavier, but will also withstand alot of heavy usage. Look at your requirements.

Now be careful with Colts. Like I said in that other posting the old Colt revolver action (Pre-Mk III/IV/V/King Cobra/Anaconda) is tricky and there aren't that many gunsmiths left anymore who know how to work on the action. I would recommend a Colt for collecting, but a Smith or Ruger for real world. Be careful of Taurus. The company has come a long way, but I still have doubts about the quality control. And that's not good for a revolver being used for the real world. Life or death in other words. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:46, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about adding this to your main page. I was working on it and I was also talking to my kids and dealing with the family pets (no not the kids). Guess I got distracted. Anyway glad to help. Also in all fairness to Taurus I am thinking of buying a Judge just as a "neat" revolver. Oh and that reminds me of something else. Somebody asked me about Charter Arms a few days ago. I would put that company in the same category as Taurus. It's come a long ways, but I'm still not sure about the consistency of it's Quality Control.Anyway talk to you later.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:53, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I think the mid size snubbies are great revolvers.I own a Colt Mk III Lawman with a 2" barrel. It'a a real Bulldog. They also look cool as hell. But they aren't really designed to be concealed. I know there are people who make them work, but I think they're more belt or shoulder holster revolvers. I suppose if you wear a sports coat all the time it would work, but that's not me. My dad carried a Model 19 snubbie for a few years back in the 70's and he described it as heavy after a few hours and dense. He said that he was always worried about it printing. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Glad to help. The 642 is a good revolver. You might want to get Snap Caps so you can practice your dry firing without worrying about breaking your firing pin.I like them even with frame mounted firing pin designs like Ruger. Also you can practice loading. I use tem in all my firearms. Handguns, rifles and shotguns. I tell all our new officers to do dry-firing at least a couple times a week. It's helped me over the years. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:41, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

==Pred's revolvers==
Congrats on your CCP, Pred, and sounds like a good choice going with the 442(?) Smith. Sounds good man, hope you enjoy it. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 01:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

:: An added feature! Well, not really. But hey, if it works. Sounds like you didn't pay too many pretty pennies for it at least. Speaking of Smiths, tell me, what's your experience with that 'bling-bling' 586 you got? Have you fired it recently? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:00, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

:- Cool, glad to know a bit. It is a full-size revolver so I'd expect it to have some weight, especially since it's bigger than K-frame. Anyway, thanks for the bit of knowledge, man. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 03:48, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

==banning user 125.233.23.5 ==
His nowiki command was not necessarily vandalism. I've seen that mistake with noobs who know nothing of Wiki command structures. I wouldn't do a permanent ban, unless he has done something else wrong. mpm

==Temporarily ban him again==
But clearly tell why you are banning again. If he does it a fourth time, then permanently ban him. We can't have guys doing obviously stupid things and ignoring the mods. It MAY make IMFDB more 'nazi like' like some disaffected ex-members have accused us of, but seriously, the mods (and quality good members) waste so much time correcting inane and just dumb changes made by noobs. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:17, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

:: Bah, why do people even do that? It should be obvious what the end result will be. Well I don't know. People who act like that have always just irked the living hell out of me. I mean.. that's just irritating. And I'm not one of the poor souls.. err wonderful guys who handle those things. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 01:24, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

==RE: uploading images==
I only edit it again so it appears in the screenshot category. Does it still appear in the category if you put the category part in the summary section? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 00:42, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

==I think I will have to withdraw the Stevens 67==
I just checked the fine print on the side of the gun. It's a Savage/Springfield Model 67, not a Savage/Stevens Model 67. I 'think' the Model 67 is virtually identical save for a few differences (the ribs in the forearm is a wee bit wider). What do you think? Keep it or trash it? The problem is that Stevens also has a Model 77 which looks the same. Arghhh. These gun manufacturers and their third party branding of the same damned gun just drives me nuts! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:30, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

==Wacko watch part deux==

[[Special:Contributions/1morey|1morey]] -
I'm afraid the guy's uploaded a shitload of redundant and jacked images (one of them has the copyright posted on the image itself), and his [[Call of juarez]] page is.. well, look for yourself. I try to not be that judgmental but, sheesh.. :( I'd fix the page but I don't wanna encroach on admin-type stuff. Besides it's a clear showing of how NOT to do a page.. ahem sorry. I just can't stand pages done that horribly. Saddest thing is that it seems the game pages are the ones most like that.. bah. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 23:13, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

:- That's cool. I know he's a new guy so I tried to keep that in mind, still that wasn't too pleasant to see. The page looks much better now so thanks on that. I'm gonna add the proper gun images and links, and do a bit of formatting. I'd like to get your ok to move the non-firearm weapons (Bible, Tomahawk, etc) to the talk page. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 02:05, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

:: [[Special:Contributions/95.116.165.233|95.116.165.233]] All for you, unless someone else gets him, of course. And remember - PENIS! :P [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

== School Rumble ==

has anyone added a page on school Rumble, i was adding a page about Sora no woto, i forgot that it's already on here. so just before i try. is there anything about that anime on this website

== School Rumble ==

has anyone added a page on school Rumble, i was adding a page about Sora no woto, i forgot that it's already on here. so just before i try. is there anything about that anime on this website

== school rumble ==

i have tried its japanese name Sukūru Ramburu still noting has come up, so im wandering if i could make a page

im new to editing these pages its just the pics i have trouble with

my page is still unfinished, when you look at it you can see what the problem is, sorry im still new to making pages like this. just need to know how to get those images right with the text

== school rumble ==

its just the cover of the anime that im stuck with now, sorry i must be bothering you now

i guess its fine.
Thanks for the help :)
im still stumped on what gun Oji kurasuma has i dunno what it is. but i guess someone who does know will change it.

my dad took my laptop off me yesterday so, sorry if i was unresponsive. i was going to make the changes. but thanks anyway, you've been a real help :)

==RE: gun discussions==

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner...I have no problem with allowing some discussions of guns, as long as they don't deviate too much from the scope of the site. I mostly just hate people using the talk pages for the kind of discussions we saw on the Beretta 92 page, because I think that kind of stuff makes us look bad. Also, some of those topics on the 1911 page look to me like they were started by an anonymous user who seems to be a bit of a poser (I remember he started a topic on the M16 page where he said he liked M16A1s better than A2s because you can "spray" with an M16A1, LOL). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 12:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

==Photos==
Thanks for watching my back. Actually it's pretty easy to revert those pics, but I'll start protecting them, but there are almost 700 custom pics I've uploaded ;) yeow. We can do them when we get to them. What is this guy thinking? A high resolution shot of a gun that's already IN motion picture armorer inventory? That makes it a little more site relevant than some snapshot of some dude's private property gun in his back yard. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Raw Deal==
Well, I usually put 'screen used' on the caption if it is indeed a screen used gun. That's a build up. As you can see, the choke is slightly different. That was taken from a Browning Field shotgun and 'crammed' onto the Mossberg LOL! Also the original movie Mossberg was a different finish than mine. And also the original gun was lost or destroyed sometime in 1990 on another movie set so it is no longer (from what an armorer friend told me) but that was yet another off hand comment, second hand, so I can't verify it. Either way, that gun was just like the Hollowpoint Type 84S or the Dawn of the Dead Remington 870. Built up by [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] for imfdb using the parts (which I have) :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Mac-uzi?==
Are you kidding? For one, that gun is hella gay. Two, those parts were made back in the 1970s from scratch when armorers had trouble getting Uzis (the early 70s the Uzi was hot, Presidential security, the Raid on Entebbe, the gun was all in the news). Why would I have 35 year old fake gun parts that aren't even correct and were custom made in a metal fabrication shop to fit a MAC-10? :D So I guess the answer is HELL NO. No gay fake franken guns here! LOL!!!!!! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== J.C. Higgins Model 20 ==
I added alittle more about the history of the shotgun. Manufactured by High Standard under contract for Sears etc. Basically it's a no-frills version of the [[High Standard Flite King Shotgun Series]]. But it is a seperate model and should have it's own page. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

:This is a memory I've brought up before, but I remember going into a K-Mart probably thirty-five years ago with my dad and walking out (dad & I) with a Ruger New Model Blackhawk in .357 magnum. What's amazing is here in my town there is a drugstore (yes an old fashioned drugstore with an honest to go lunch counter) that sells both handguns and long-guns as well as ammo, fishing equipment and so on. A few years ago I purchased a Ruger Blackhawk from them just to help support a local business. Going into that store is like walking through a time-warp. There are still a few left I guess. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 18:26, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

== Redirect ==
Okay. thanks. I'll do that. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:22, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

==RE:==

Definitely a spammer. Nuked. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:25, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

== Armstrong images ==
Hello and sorry for the no neccessary images, you can delete them. I will respect next time. --[[User:Comateman|comateman]] 22:34, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

==RE: Auction==

Yeah, I remember that auction. Obviously, the info in the PDF is not going to be 100% (as evidenced by the example you cited). Inaccuracies are likely to be a result of the fact that whoever wrote that document wasn't knowledgeable about firearms. But it could still help us. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:17, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

:It's definitely possible the barrels were swapped out for a later movie, though I can't imagine which one. Also, as far as the Glock in ''[[Eraser]]'' being a G21, it's possible, but it's also a bit strange to me because the opening credits scene shows a Glock 17 being loaded (the mags aren't long enough to be G21 mags). Though of course, the opening credits gun wasn't necessarily the gun used by Arnie in the rest of the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:11, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Thanks for deleting the friends page but I have redone the page thanks any way

== Zombie killer 1995 ==
Ok thanks I'll remember that

== zombie killer 1995 ==
sorry sorry I'm new to this thing my bad if I reset the picture size to say 450px would that be ok?

== RE: The Way of The Gun ==

Comin' right up! :) And thanks. I was a bit hesitant at first about uploading my screencaps... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 21:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

:: Ah ok, and once again: thanks! And yes, this is gonna look awesome as a Featured Article... ;) I'll just finish it up and maybe add a couple of them situational shots. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 21:12, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

==RE: M1911A1 disclaimer==

Sure, I think that would a good disclaimer to add. I also wonder if we should add the info about how most firing 1911s in movies are 9mm derivatives (like the Mark IV Series 70 or Star Model B). But this has been a big problem. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:08, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

:''The Mark IV Series 70 in 9mm while it was available they aren't all that common, I very rarely see them come up for sale. (maybe the armories bought them all).''

:You'd have to ask one of our armorers about this, but I would guess that could very well be true! Also, because movie guns always get sent out on lots of shows, it's possible for them to be disproportionately represented in Hollywood compared to real life (I've seen too many movies and TV shows that have had bad guys using the SIG P220 and P226 Sport models, which are pretty rare and hard to find.)

:And yes, it's possible to re-chamber a .45-caliber 1911 to fire 9mm blanks. It's also not uncommon for gunsmiths to re-chamber weapons to fire more commonly available cartridges (i.e. re-chambering Japanese Arisaka rifles to shoot .30-.06 blanks). I have no idea how common this is with 1911s, though. The impression I've usually been under is that .45 ACP 1911s were used mostly for non-firing, the 9mm Star Model B or Mark IV Series 70 were used in firing. I dunno when gunsmiths in the industry started figuring out how to make 1911s function more reliably with .45 ACP blanks, but I'm guessing it wasn't until some time in the 1980s or 1990s, which would explain why 9mm pistols were still more common than other calibers up until recently. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:01, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

:::In early gangster films you see Colt 1911's that were not converted to blanks but were still live fire weapons. The 1911's and 1911a1 are a delayed blow back weapon and were more difficult to convert than the straight blow back pistol like the Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless. Also the .45 ACP blanks were made from a cut down .30-06 cartridge and were mainly used in the Colt Thompson Submachine Guns but the 1911 had some issues due to the hard rifle primers. So you will see most 1911 and 1911A1's used in film prior to 1950 firing one shot since they were not converted to blanks or a mock up 1911 that has a small revolver inside an aluminum shroud to stand in for a 1911 when firing multiple rounds. About 1950 the Star Model B was brought in to the US for sale and several studios and armories purchased these since 9mm blanks worked and a conversion on a delayed blow back weapon was developed. From 1950 through the mid 80's the Star Model B, Colt 9mm and Colt .38 Supers with a 9mm barrel were used. About 1985 a new .45 blank cartridge was developed that used a large pistol primer allowing the armories to activate there 1911's to fire reliably. The Stembridge had both Colt 1911 and GI 1911A1 in there inventory also had Colt 9mm Series 70. They did try to convert 45's to 9mm but had problems due to the larger breach face in the 45 slide compared to the 9mm slide. The rentals of 9mm 1911 pistol have slowed down when the .45 came on line but they still go out on shows when a Propmaster wants to limit the amount of different blanks on set. Hope this helps some it will be hard to decipher pistol types unless you study the photos closely. --[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 23:36, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

The machine pistol used on [[Public Enemies]] was originally a 38 Super converted to 9mm. It's a funny thing with those machine pistols that the original ones built for Dillinger in the 30's were 38 super. I have seen Barstow barrels in 9mm plugged and modified for blanks in Stembridge parts bin so that gives some credence to converting 38 Supers to 9mm blank. Also Stembridge had great connections at Colt and they would build custom pistol in 9mm for Stembridge. The pistols used in Cobra were 38 Super National Match made in 9mm by Colt for Stembridge.--[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 04:21, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

:That photo from [[Cobra]] is nice as it shows the ejection port. Colt made that pistol in 45 ACP and 38 Super only but they did build it special order in 9mm for Stembridge according to Syd Stembridge. The firearms companies do a lot of special builds if the time allows for it. Ellis Mercantile had new S&W Highway Patrolman revolvers built by Smith & Wesson for [[A Perfect World]]. They sent S&W an original from inventory and then S&W built them almost exactly like the sample. --[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 17:14, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

::This is really great information! Thanks so much, Steve! Hey Predator, should we add this summary (or something like it) to the page? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

::Sounds good! Only thing is, don't use any personal pronouns ("you"). I gotta run, but I'll discuss further in a bit. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:21, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

:I had a 38 Super National Match with Elison rear sight in 1981 that came back from Mexico. The pistol came from a batch of guns imported by Odin International. As for the [[Cobra]] pistols Colt built them special in 9mm for Stembridge. That would be easy for Colt to do as the just run a couple of unfinished National Match slides though the 9mm machine operations for the firing pin hole, Extractor Hole, Ejector Slot and Breach Face. It is a lot easier for the manufacturer to do those for us than trying to do it in house. We also have Glocks that are marked Glock 23 but are in 9mm blank again it another special build by Glock for one of the armories. You are correct on Clint's revolver in [[A Perfect World]] as a Model 19. But they ordered the Model 28's for the show I am not sure who used them in the show just knew they were ordered and they went out on the show.--[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 17:43, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

:: On the Glock 23 in 9mm some scripts call specifically for the Glock 23 since that is what the FBI use at this time. But to make things easier for the armorer or propmaster we had them made in 9mm instead of 40 cal. There are 40 cal Glocks in other armories as I have used them on some films but it would have been easier if it was 9mm as we had other 9mm pistols on the show. No problem on using what I told you about 45 blanks and I can get more info to fill it out for you. I will be talking to the guys about a new category for IMFDB on studios and armories of the past that should include a page on motion picture blanks. It depends on what the conversion was on the revolver. I have seen several from back in the early days with the cylinder bored or shaved for 5 in 1 blanks. Also we have some revolvers the have the barrels plugged and ported in different directions for close up use. It's very rare now a days for a revolver to be modified due to caliber as we have access to almost all calibers of brass. But we do still modify the barrels for the close in shots but usually on a spare barrel. The industry looks at it's guns as just props to assist in make a film so we due think that would make collectors cry like the 1st gen Colt Single Action with the bent barrel in the movie [[Unforgiven]]. The gunsmith was told to use one of the single actions on the rack so he did what was told. --[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 17:33, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Hi could you tell me how to delete pages thanks.

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Ok thanks the the info.

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Hi just one question is it possible to put a block on a page so that only the creator of that page can edit it. or some way to that people can only edit with creators permission?.

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Hi, I looked on one of my pages I created [[Doghouse]] also with [[Phoenix Nights]] and it says that the page is incomplete but it is there is only one gun used in it so should I just get rid of the ?.

== J.C. Higgins Shotguns ==

How about we rename the page "J.C. Higgins Shotgun Series"? I think that would work. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:05, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

:: Sure thing. That would simplify things. I finally discovered the identity of the Model 21 because I bought the 1965 edition of ''Gun Digest'' at a used bookstore today. Mainly because I thought it might help with identifying older more obscure firearms (which it did) plus I like reading old gun articles from the past forty-seventy years. You'd be suprised how much info they have in them - even in 2010. Plus the old writers weren't so focused on everything being high tech and uber tactical. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:10, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
:::The 65 edition I picked up has several interesting articles. One is about the brand new 41 magnum. Another is about the endof the M14 and looks at the possible replacements to include the AR-15 and finally an article about the changes introduced by Winchester to the Model 70. The crazy thing is the writer approved of the changes! Boy if he been able to see into the future and the big stink that people would make about Pre-64 vs. Post 64 Model 70's. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:12, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Hi just needed to ask recently I have seen annoying advertisements on the right and left side of this website trying to sell things is it possible for them to be disabled.
Thank you for listening to me hope to hear from you soon.

== RE: From Dusk Till Dawn ==

This is becoming a habit ;) How do you like the new shots? I'm gonna update the whole page with some better caps of all the shotguns too... And damn, couldn't have imagined that Tarantino's 1911 was a china-copy. I could have sworn it was a Springfield. Oh, well... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 00:08, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Ok, thanks. Hmm, funny coincidence with Tarantino and the 1911. One can't help but wonder if it's a conscious choice... Anyways, back here in Finland, it's like UK or New York for us "gun-nuts". Not a lot of people do ,for example, gun-related sports (well, other than hunting I guess) in here, especially young people. It's a tough nut getting a firearm. And if you are into guns/or have a gun (other than basic hunting rifles/shotguns) people thinks you're nuts :D (I had a point here somewhere, I think...) Anyways, when there's not a lot of people into guns, there ain't a lot of guns either. So if you wanna have a 1911 -type pistol, Norinco is the most easily acquirable, and more importantly, cheap. And I've heard a lot of people bad-mouthing the piece. As for myself, I don't like to judge anything if I haven't tried it myself. (<-applies for guns, not people :P) --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 00:40, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::: Yeah, we don't got a lot to choose from. I mean when you walk into a gun store in Finland... hmm, I don't think we even have other than a few gun shops in the whole country! Well, when you walk into a gun shop, or a hunting store, you got dozens of shotguns (O/U, pump-action, you name it), hunting rifles (Lot's of Finnish Sakos and Tikkas, then lots of others), and your .22s. I mean every place you go you have dozens of .22s, some basic every-guy-knows-them-guns (92FS, P226, etc.), and only a few others. I mean of course they can get them, but they're more... "special". If you ask for e.g. a Springfield 1911 TRP, they're gonna have to import it from somewhere. I've heard some people get the Norinco, and use it as a basis for something they wanna build. In here Norinco's are about 400€, give or take. Less if they're used. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 01:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

== P226 pic ==

Thanks for pointing that out about the pic. I've notified the user. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 13:41, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

== RE: PNGs ==
Shit I forgot. Been away too long. Thanks for the reminder. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]

==RE:==

Huh? That's odd...it looks centered to me. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 16:59, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

:I'm a little confused. Here's what the alphabet list at the top looks like for me:

:[[Image:Alpha-centered.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Is that what you're referring to? Also, I haven't emailed/Gchated Chris yet, should I? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

::Yeah, I usually see the ads, but sometimes, they don't load properly and then I don't. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:26, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

:::Done, good suggestion. Ads are gone, although the menu is still on the left. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:34, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Hi, delete request ==

Hi.I heard you were an admin. I did a little upgradin' on the [[Ninja Assassin]] page. I upgraded some pictures, and I took out some of the crappier ones. Could you possibly delete these, please?--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 19:48, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

[[Media:NA-MP002M-3.jpg]]

[[Media:NA-G36opticsight.jpg]]

::::Okay, gotcha. Thanks. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 20:06, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

==RE: AK==

First of all, I just viewed the auction, and it says someone bought it. Are you that someone? If not, this discussion is (sadly) moot.

Second, yes, $1K for a PT Legend is a really good deal. I paid about $950 for mine (in 2004), but mine is a stamped receiver, not milled. Milled receiver AKs are always more expensive. However, I'm personally a lot more partial to stamped; they're lighter and feel a lot less...antique, I guess.

As far as other brands: Norincos are pretty good, but their fit and finish isn't as good as PTs. In the 1980s, they were considered the bargain-price "no frills" AKs (they often sold for $300, which is crazy considering what they cost today). They're also built to almost the same specs as the PLA-issue Type 56 rifles, so if you want something identical to what Hamas militants or Iranian Revolutionary Guards carry, the Norincos are cheaper and closer to mil-spec.

Hungarians are my second-favorite after the PTs. I've handled an SA85M and it was quite possibly the most beautiful AK I've ever seen. Unfortunately, the FFL wanted $2,500 for it, and from what I've seen, it's hard to find one for under $2K because only about 7,000 were imported to this country before Bush, Sr. banned them in 1989. Right now, there are some manufacturers who are building SA85Ms by taking Hungarian parts kits and putting them on American-made receivers; I haven't seen one firsthand, but I would be suspicious of anything made in this country. American companies are never going to be as good at making AKs as their counterparts in Eastern Europe or East Asia, IMO.

-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:13, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

:Sorry, I phrased that poorly. My gun isn't a Legend (Legends are milled receivers only). Mine says "AK47S" on the side of the receiver, and it was imported by Golden State Arms, which was one of Poly Tech's front companies in California. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:37, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

==Re: I'm Gonna Git You Sucka==

This time I mentioned that it's a Type 56-1 with an AKM-style muzzle break. Hopefully, that'll clear things up. Also, at some point, I gotta talk to Ben about his IDs - he gets stuff wrong all the time (usually minor things, though, like specific Glock variants/generations). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

== Archer page ==

I agree that the weapons are drawn well enough to be identified. I wouldn't have any trouble with it, but it may be better to run it by the other mods and then probably a disclaimer should be put at the top of its page to explain why this page is okay. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 06:28, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

== Stargate SG-1 ==

I just started with Season 10, so I am not really done with the page yet. In the meantime you could put splitting the page up for vote. See if people think it's a good idea or not. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 07:31, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

: I was wondering who will split the page up. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 12:45, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

:: I am already putting the Seasons into separate .txt files (anything else and the formatting goes haywire). I have 1 through 6 done. Until I am done with that I will keep on adding screenshots to the SG-1 talkpage. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 15:20, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

:: Done. I apologize for not warning anyone beforehand. The pages probably need a lot of fixing. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:48, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

== Splitting Up by Season ==

It would be nice to split those shows by season, but I've found that both those shows as well as NCIS are pretty much the same each season so there would be a lot of overlap of weapons used. [[24]] was different because each season was pretty much a different story. [[Miami Vice]] had a lot of different weapons each season. Splitting Burn Notice and The Unit would mean having to go back and examine each episode of each season to reexamine which weapons went with each season. In other words, I would vote not to split. (Stargate's another matter). --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

== Black Hawk Down pics ==

Just wondering why you wrote over my pics for Black Hawk. Mine are from the Blu-ray. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 07:39, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll be more careful next time. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

==Deleting files==
How do I delete a file if I upload the wrong one?
Not trying to be a pain but I'm still new to your site.
Thanks- Peejn8r

== Zombie killer 1995 ==
Hi I was wondering if you could confirm for me what the name of the pistol is.
Is it a M1911A1 or a Beretta 9000?
[[Image:l copy.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]
[[Image:l copy2.jpg|500px|thumb|none]]

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Do you know the name of the pistols is it a Colt Officer's ACP but in black and i dont no why i coverd their faces
thanks for the help I thinks its a Colt Officer's ACP

==images==
Sorry I haven't responded sooner. BTW, you're doing an EXCELLENT job as mod. I see you kicking ass and taking names when it comes to banning spammers and keeping error prone 'drive by anonymous members' in check. I'm taking a break from photos for iMFDB. the problem is that members LOVE the pics, but too many members feel that I'm being some sort of jerk in trying to protect the images from piracy by other websites. IP (intellectual property) seems to be a foreign concept to most of the membership on IMFDB. We're legal on the screencaps, I know that much. But I put a ton of work into gun images and recently some of the arguements (on and OFF the forums/discussion pages) have left a bad taste in my mouth. So officially I'm on strike for now. No more pics. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:44, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia template ==

I wanted to see how it would look on the main page first and just waiting for an okay from some of the other mods before putting it up for a longer trial period. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:04, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

== RE: Killshot 1911s ==

Holy crap, I think you're right! When I saw the film the first time, I spotted the gun as a Series 80, peace of cake. I didn't care to think anymore, since I had already recognized it. I couldn't have even thought it to be not only 2, but maybe 3 different guns.
The second screencap looks like an M1911A1, as you already noticed. The third might as well be a Norinco, I mean they even used plastic shotguns for some scenes. I'll have to watch the film again to see if it changes even more. Thanks for spotting that, I appreciate it :) And thanks for the compliments --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 00:57, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

== Re: Killshot ==

Now that you mentioned, the Smith looks like a possible alternative. Btw, the film was full of continuity errors and such. A real nightmare. It didn't help production that they had to cut and re-shoot the movie several times.

But about the shotgun, I'ma wing it and say that it is a Winchester Model 1300, even though I don't know if they make it with a full synthetic stock with a regular mag tube. But the foregrip reminds me of the 1300 Defender...
[[Image:WinchesterModel1300Def.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:KS870_4.jpg|none|thumb|600px|]]
--[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 19:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

== P I Staker ==

OH...I get it. Piss Taker...Thanks [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:12, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

==RE:==

I think you're correct, good catch! Still wish we could ID the other shotgun, though (the one with the long tube).

Also, as far as the Type 56 section goes: I think it's fine to add a note that they were originally made with milled receivers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 08:06, 9 March 2011 (MSK)

:Yeah, I think it's a Hatsan. Also, I don't know if the tube is unsupported; I think it's just that the connector blends with the suit of the agent in the background. Also, I'm pretty sure that same shotgun appears later in the movie, and it definitely doesn't have an unsupported tube. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 08:23, 9 March 2011 (MSK)

== Recreated ==

Hi. I have recreated a page for a game which was once deleted (don't know the reason...). Could you please take a look at this page: [[Condemned: Criminal Origins]]. [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 09:00, 19 March 2011 (CDT)

== Bruni 92 ==

== Bruni 92 ==

Hi there, since you're the registered user for the Beretta 92 page, could you please add the below table for the Bruni 92? I coded already for you so it's probably a matter of cut-and-paste.

===Films===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Razor Blade Smile]]|| [[Eileen Daly]] || Lilith Silver || || 1998
|-
| [[Razor Blade Smile]]|| [[Christopher Adamson]] || Sir Sethane Blake || || 1998

|-
|}

Also, I found a good quality image of the Bruni 92 ([[Media:Bruni_92.jpg]]) that you may want to include, currently there's none.--[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] 10:32, 26 March 2011 (CDT)

==RE:==

Thanks for trying. I literally just took the image again (played the movie) and re-uploaded, and still no go. I think the file itself is just going to need to be deleted. I have no idea what could possibly be causing this error. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:39, 7 April 2011 (CDT)

:Yeah, I saw! It's good that we have him on here, too. I figured those weird AKs were modified R5s, but it's nice to have confirmation. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:35, 12 April 2011 (CDT)

== RE: Dark Blue ==

Thanks, I think the page is coming along great, too. Oh, and I did some re-organizing on the handguns, as you adviced, so that the main characters' pieces are the first ones you see on the page. I also put the unknown 1911 on the colt government section. Check it out, now it looks even better ;)

I'm also planning on screencapping the second season in the upcoming weeks, as soon as I'm done with the first season and a couple of other projects I'm planning. Cheers, mate --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 02:30, 15 April 2011 (CDT)

== Just to point out since I can't post on the forums (don't have permission): ==

Burt's argument is basically that "RPG" is not the correct term to use to describe an RPG; I've shown him links to BAE Systems and the US Army using the term to describe a class of weapons, but he insists they're incorrect as if he's somehow in a position to overrule experts in the defence industry and the military on what the correct term is. This is why he wants to remove "RPG" from all mentions of the Type 69; he thinks it can only be applied to the RPG-X series of weapons, not to RPG weapons in general or their warheads. Given he's seemingly immune to logic, fixated on "correcting" things that aren't wrong, [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=upload&user=BurtReynoldsMoustache&page=&year=&month=-1 doesn't contribute anything of merit] and edits the same articles in the same way, I'm fairly sure he's actually good old PersonOfInterest; this probably explains why he's trying to describe me as a "troublemaker" (I haven't caused anything resembling trouble in years, last I checked; "good contributor" is probably a better label) since I disagreed with him before. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:48, 15 April 2011 (CDT)

*Further to that, here's something fun: PersonOfInterest's last activity is [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PersonOfInterest 26th August 2010]. He made a new account and came back (and got banned again) just under a month later on [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PersonOfInterest2 September 28th]. [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&dir=prev&target=BurtReynoldsMoustache Burt's first edit is a month and four days later] and he's soon back to editing Goldeneye and the N64 The World Is Not Enough, which were POI's weird little obsessions. He also has that POI quirk of often taking two tries to sign talk page edits, if he bothers to sign them at all (look for places where he edits a talk page twice in a row, including his first two edits). Interesting, huh? Another little thing: [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:007:_The_World_Is_Not_Enough&diff=prev&oldid=363154 the user who posted the top comment was PersonOfInterest]. How come "both" of them think this is the right way to say things on a talk page? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:49, 15 April 2011 (CDT)

**Well, people seem to be seeing through his rather ridiculous attempts at character assassination on the forums (yeah, I'm a disruptive user, damn me for posting over a hundred screencaps in the last five days while he's never posted a single one ever). It's basically common sense: if the experts say something and a random person on the internet says something else, the experts are going to be the ones in the right. Anyway, I've copy-pasted the POI stuff to MT2008, so we'll see what he makes of it. Any idea why I can't post on the forums? I registered a new account name (Evil Tim) since I can't get a password reminder for "Vangelis," but that says I don't have permission to post. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:20, 15 April 2011 (CDT)

***Yeah, it's my Hotmail account, though I was cleared for forums on my other account (Gmail) just fine. One of those things, I guess. Anyway, time for me to hit the hay. Have a good one. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 10:56, 15 April 2011 (CDT)

*Hey, I realise this is kinda dead, but while looking through the abbreviation list I noticed something: Burt said of RPG "we don't use that term on this site." [http://www.imfdb.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_gun_abbreviations&action=historysubmit&diff=294935&oldid=289165 Guess who decided that]? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:50, 22 April 2011 (CDT)

== RE: Feast ==

Now that you mentioned it, it seem like the shotgun used in [[Feast]] definitely changes during the film. The trigger guard looks like it's from a Winchester, but the pins resemble Remington. Damn, I guess I'm gonna have to watch it again, to get a good look at it. It's been a couple of years since I saw the film, and just recently I upgraded the pics used on the page to .jpgs. It was one of my first pages, so I wasn't familiar with how the site works, and I initially uploaded them as .pngs. The .pngs are still here somewhere, I couldn't write them over with my .jpegs. I guess they can still be deleted, though? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 14:24, 19 April 2011 (CDT)

Hmm. Time to put Google to use ;) I'll see what I can dig up. Oh and I got you the .pngs, so you only have to delete them:

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_12gauge.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_12gauge2.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_12gauge3.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_paintinggun.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_colt.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_colt2.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_colt3.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_colt3.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_saa.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast_saa2.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast870.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast870_2.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast870_3.png

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Feast870_4.png

== Everybody hates chris ==

MPM had deleted this page and I had restored it for exactly the same reason you restored it, but I was left a message to keep it deleted. Just letting you know. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 19:11, 21 April 2011 (CDT)

==Xm21 file==
Predator could you completely delete the file as the file I'm trying to upload is the black and white file. It seems that whenever i try to upload the new file it apears to me as a coruption of POI's file wich is a missidentification of the weapon. by deleting all of the versions i can upload a fresh image without anything going wrong with the upload hopefully.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 22:19, 25 April 2011 (CDT)

== Righteous Kill ==

Thanks for the corrections on [[Righteous Kill]], I'm doing them now. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 21:26, 1 May 2011 (CDT)

== Can we get RPG-7 unlocked now? ==

Orca's left the page locked as admin editing only, which seems a little counter-productive since it's a very common weapon and nobody can currently add examples to it's page. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:51, 5 May 2011 (CDT)

== Spaceart ==

I thought the consensus was that they were basically spam and bunni's take on it was "The outbound links need to be removed and the images (he) uploaded need to be off the main pages and on the discussion pages unless they are actual screen used props." I noticed they'd been removed from almost all the articles they were posted on, so just got rid of the rest since none of them were in the right place anyway (all above the main weapon image). Was that not right? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 11:48, 5 May 2011 (CDT)
:Well, the way I read it was that MPM was the only one for using the images and he changed his mind when bunni said it was spam. I'll move them to the talk pages right now. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:10, 5 May 2011 (CDT)

== Thank you ==

That was starting to get irritating. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:01, 8 May 2011 (CDT)

: Yeah, that'd be good. Could you also do that for [[Black]] and [[Homefront]] since they're both basically finished? They're more likely to be vandalised by anons than added to now. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:14, 8 May 2011 (CDT)

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
???? Will that help in any way, and what will that do.--[[User:Zombie Killer 1995|Zombie Killer 1995]] 09:15, 8 May 2011 (CDT)

Ok then do what you can to protect my page please.

== Zombie Killer 1995 ==
Hi I need some advise on which scope is better.
[[Image:H&KSG1.jpg‎ |thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch G3SG/1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Remington 700 BDL.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Remington Model 700 (1970s Production) .308 Winchester]]
[[Image:Remington-Model-700-BDL 308.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Remington 700 BDL rifle with no iron sights and scope (current production) - .308 Winchester]]
[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|right|500px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with M68 Aimpoint reflex optic and Knight's Armament RAS railed handguard and vertical forward grip - 5.56x45mm]]

== RE: Tec 9 ==

Hi friend, I replied to your comment on that movie which is apparantly so insulting it needs a special disclaimer. I'd like to know if I can edit the page still, and if the people running this site (I guess this includes you, as an admin) share the views and biases which enabled such a disclaimer to be put on that page.
Peace [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 12:54, 3 June 2011 (CDT)

Talk:Redacted

2011-06-03T17:41:41Z

Tec-9: /* Disclaimer */

Redacted

2011-06-03T17:24:35Z

Tec-9:

2009-09-01T08:16:30Z

Tec-9: /* Remington 870 Police Folding Stock */

Hulk (2003)

2009-09-01T08:15:58Z

Tec-9: /* AKMS */

Talk:Hulk (2003)

2009-09-01T08:15:28Z

Tec-9: /* Rebels */

You missed the GAU-19/A Miniguns chin mounted on the helicopter. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I fixed up the format to meet IMFDB standards. This is what I expect to see. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::Good work. I think that launcher is a B&T GL-06, but my comment was removed... and there are M4s with CM203s as well. I hope my DVD is full screen too so if I add shots later they'll match. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:::Oh, whoops sorry about that. But no, it's not a GL-06 because those weren't around when the movie was made (the "06" in the name is for the year it came out, 2006). Plus, the stocks are totally wrong for the GL-06.

:::Also, which helicopters are you referring to with the GAU-19/As? You don't mean the Comanche gunships right? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::::Not the chopper T-Bolt is in, the ones that fire rockets (the rockets and guns fold out). I honestly suck with choppers, I know guns... - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

Both the AH-1 Cobra and the RA-66 Comanche have a 20mm M197 cannon in the chin turret. I've already added the varrient to the M61 Vulcan page. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 22:27, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay, thanks for the help, I have less experiance with choppers and large weapons since I grew up on small arms. But I'm glad you guys are around to correct me. I might add a shot or two later tonight. He missed the MP5Ks Talbot's thugs used too. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::::Ugh, and the Mk 19s mounted on the Humvees and DPVs. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

I might be wrong, but that looks like the Russian model of the RGS-50M Grenade Launcher. Yet, it possibly has been modified with an EOTech Sight and a High Explosive-Tipped Grenade.

== Rebels ==

Hey just finished watching the film. The gunmen in the unknown South American country are actually troops of a corrupt government (as badly dressed as they may be). This is evidenced by them saying "These medicines belong to the government" to excuse them taking it from the people "who are helping our enemies".
Also, changed "Latin" to south American, as that is taken by many South Americans as a derogitory term - probably because it implies decent from Latin ppl (ir Europeans) and ignores Indiginous/Black decent or something like that. Not too sure about PCness ins and outs, but this is just to avoid insult.
- Tec-9

Talk:Hulk (2003)

2009-09-01T08:15:17Z

Tec-9: /* Rebels */ new section

You missed the GAU-19/A Miniguns chin mounted on the helicopter. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I fixed up the format to meet IMFDB standards. This is what I expect to see. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::Good work. I think that launcher is a B&T GL-06, but my comment was removed... and there are M4s with CM203s as well. I hope my DVD is full screen too so if I add shots later they'll match. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:::Oh, whoops sorry about that. But no, it's not a GL-06 because those weren't around when the movie was made (the "06" in the name is for the year it came out, 2006). Plus, the stocks are totally wrong for the GL-06.

:::Also, which helicopters are you referring to with the GAU-19/As? You don't mean the Comanche gunships right? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::::Not the chopper T-Bolt is in, the ones that fire rockets (the rockets and guns fold out). I honestly suck with choppers, I know guns... - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

Both the AH-1 Cobra and the RA-66 Comanche have a 20mm M197 cannon in the chin turret. I've already added the varrient to the M61 Vulcan page. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 22:27, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay, thanks for the help, I have less experiance with choppers and large weapons since I grew up on small arms. But I'm glad you guys are around to correct me. I might add a shot or two later tonight. He missed the MP5Ks Talbot's thugs used too. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::::Ugh, and the Mk 19s mounted on the Humvees and DPVs. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

I might be wrong, but that looks like the Russian model of the RGS-50M Grenade Launcher. Yet, it possibly has been modified with an EOTech Sight and a High Explosive-Tipped Grenade.

== Rebels ==

Hey ust finished watching the film. The gunmen in the unknown South American country are actually troops of a corrupt government (as badly dressed as they may be). This is evidenced by them saying "These medicines belong to the government" to excuse them taking it from the people "who are helping our enemies".
Also, changed "Latin" to south American, as that is taken by many South Americans as a derogitory term - probably because it implies decent from Latin ppl (ir Europeans) and ignores Indiginous/Black decent or something like that. Not too sure about PCness ins and outs, but this is just to avoid insult.
- Tec-9

Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

2009-08-15T21:59:43Z

Tec-9: /* Sub-Machine Gun */

'''The following weapons appear in the video game ''Grand Theft Auto: Vice City'':'''
[[Image:Gta-VC-boxart.png|right|300px]]

=Handguns=
Has a theme color of yellow. Can be put to good use while robbing a store.

== Colt M1911A1 ==

Called 'Pistol' ingame. Has a large ammunition capacity of 17 rounds, moderate rate of fire and low damage. It is the most popular weapon in the game, used by the VCPD, all gang members, Patrol Invest Group (PIG) guards and many more. Great all-round weapon for virtually all situations from Vice Beach (first island) missions. You can easily stock up on ammo for free from as soon as the game starts from thug/cop fights if the thug wins (punch him once for bonus, and lead him to the cop so they fight. Thus usually wins as long as you don't punch him too much, and you get a free nightstick and pistol). This is the only weapon used by NPC's in free-roam outside of missions and sub-missions, until some members of Tommy's gangs start wielding Uzis. The shopkeepers of the three Ammunation stores in VC also carry different weapons.

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP.]]

[[Image:Pistol_3.png‎|thumb|400px|none|Colt M1911A1 Pistol]]

== Colt Python .357 Magnum, 6" Barrel ==

Called .357 ingame. The Colt Python is an extremely powerful handgun and has a low ammunition capacity of 6 rounds, and a very slow rate of fire. This weapon is very rare in the game, but is sold in two out of the three Ammu-nations. It is not used by any NPC in the game except for the Ammu-nation store-keeper in Downtoen VC. Can usually kill a person in one shot, except for armored law enforcement units like SWAT and FBI, where it's slow rate of fire can become a big hinderance. Interestingly, Tommy uses one in the cutscene at the end of the mission 'Rub Out' even if you don't have one in your arsenal.
[[Image:Python6in.jpg|thumb|400px|none|[[Colt Python]] .357 Magnum 6in]]

[[Image:357_vc.png‎|thumb|400px|none|Colt Python]]

[[Image:Gta-vice-city-21.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tommy carries his Python.]]

=Sub-Machine Gun=
Has a theme color of yellow. All can be used in drive-bys and can be fired to the front or sides while riding motorcycles. Interestingly, when fired from a vehicle, they all have the sound-bites of the Uzi, and a drastically much higher damage, so that one bullet will usually kill virtually every type of NPC.

== Intratec Tec-9 ==

Has a somewhat low rate of fire compared to other submachine guns in the game, moderate damage, and a high capacity magazine of 50 rounds. Used most prominently by Street Wannabes and low-level thug muscle in a few missions, but also by other gangs and the respawning Mafia attackers in 'Keep you're friends close'.

[[image:TEC-9.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Intratec TEC-9 9mm]]

[[Image:Tec9_vc.png‎|thumb|none|400px|Intratec TEC-9]]

== MAC-11 ==

Called 'Ingram Mac-10' ingame, though the ingame skin is that of the Ingram Mac-11 with the horizontal lines/grilles on the side of the gun. It is a weapon with a high rate of fire and somewhat low damage. Sort of a small upgrade to the Tec-9. This weapon is very rare, as it is never used by NPC's during any missions - it is only wielded by the storekeeper of the Ammunation Store that sells the weapon in Vice Beach - but on the PC version only. On the PS2 version, he is unarmed. Interestingly, the game icon for this is actually a Micro-Uzi. The opposite is the case of the 'Micro-SMG' in GTA: San Andreas, where the game icon is that of a Mac-10, whereas the game skin is that of a Micro-uzi.

[[Image:Mac m11 9k.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ingram MAC 11 - .380 acp]]‎

[[Image:Mac10_vc.png‎|thumb|400px|none|Ingram MAC 10]]

== IMI Uzi ==

Considerably the second most popular weapon in the game. Has moderate damage and a very fast rate of fire. Used by some law enforcement officers (SWAT, Cheetah Undercover officers) and gang members such as Haitians and some Cubans.

[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Uzi 9mm]]

[[Image:Uzi_vc.png‎|thumb|none|400px|IMI Uzi]]

[[Image:V screen001.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tommy fires his Uzi from a motorcycle.]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5 ==

One of the most powerful weapons in the game. High rate of fire but slightly less to the Uzi, able to fire long ranges and a moderate ammunition capacity of 30 rounds. Can be found on FBI agents and US Army officers. Ricardo Diaz uses one when Tommy and Lance take over his mansion.
[[Image:MP5A3 StockCollapsed.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3, 9x19mm]]

[[Image:Mp5_vc.png‎|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]

[[Image:Gta-vice-city-4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tommy carries his MP5.]]

=Shotguns=
Has a theme color of dark green. When fired the shotgun shell can be erroneously seen leaving from the barrel in multiple directions.

== Ithaca 37 ==
A good reliable shotgun with a sort of fast firing rate. Has a low/medium damage. Called "Chrome Shotgun" in game.

[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ithaca 37 - 12 Gauge]]

[[Image:Shotgun_vc.png‎|thumb|400px|none|Ithaca 37]]

== Ithaca 37 "Stakeout" ==

Called a "stubby shotgun". It is based on a customized Ithaca 37 Stakeout used by Phillip Michael Thomas in [[Miami Vice]].

[[Image:Custom37.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Customized Ithaca 37 Stakeout used in Miami Vice]]
[[Image:Stubby_vc.png|thumb|400px|none]]

== Franchi SPAS-12 ==

The most powerful shotgun in the game. has a really fast rate of fire with good damage and a small ammo capacity.

[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 with stock folded and butt-hook removed- .12 ga]]

[[Image:Spas12 vc.png|thumb|400px|none|Franchi SPAS-12]]

=Assault Rifles=
Has a theme color of orange. Allows aiming option by clicking the secondary fire mode button.

== Ruger Mini-14 ==

The Ruger is the first assault rifle the player encounters in the game. It has a Slow rate of fire and somewhat inaccurate with moderate damage. Tommy and Lance use two of these weapons to cover Diaz during a Drug Deal gone wrong with the Cubans. It is also used during the mission "All hands on Deck" when Colonel Cortez's sailor's wield these, and Tommy has one too.

[[Image:Mini14gb-f.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Stainless Steel Ruger Mini-14 GB-F ("Government Barrel, Folding Stock") - 5.56mm]]

[[Image:Ruger vc.png|thumb|400px|none|Ruger Mini-14]]

[[Image:Gta-vice-city295.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tommy fires the Ruger.]]

== Colt M733 ==

It's a very powerful assault rifle. High rate of fire and damage. Tommy and Lance use M733s during their assault on Diaz' Mansion. Also used by some Military personnel and found spawned across the map.

[[Image:Colt_Model_733.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Colt Model 733 - 5.56mm NATO]]

[[Image:M4 vc.png|thumb|400px|none|Colt Model 733]]

=Sniper Rifles=
Has a theme color of pink. Allows telescopic sight view by clicking the secondary fire button.

== Remington 700 ==

The first sniper rifle the player will most likely encounter in the game. Has good damage and only fires one bullet at a time.

[[Image:Remington 700 BDL.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 700 .308 Winchester]]

[[Image:Sniper rifle.gif|thumb|none|400px|Remington 700]]

== Heckler & Koch MSG90 ==

The [[Heckler_%26_Koch_G3#H.26K_MSG90|MSG90]] is the most powerful sniper rifle in the game. Comes with a 7 round magazine (though the real weapon only takes 5. 10, or 20 round magazines), and a laser magnifying scope (Which is more accurate in the long run). Can destroy a car with a whole magazine. Called Sniper .308 in PS2 version.

[[Image:HKMSG90A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MSG90A1 7.62x51mm NATO]]

[[Image:Psg vc.png|thumb|none|400px|The MSG90 in ''Vice City''.]]

=Heavy Weapons=
Has a theme color of purple. Carrying such a weapon will slow down your speed and prevent you from jumping and sprinting.

== M60 machine gun ==

Highly effective machine gun with a 100 round capacity. Can easily take down vehicles and can kill a person in one shot. Tommy uses a helicopter mounted one while on a mission for Diaz with Lance, which he later takes off the Heli for use in combat and keeps the wep after the mission.

[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]

[[Image:M60 vc.png|thumb|400px|none|M60 machine gun]]

== Hand Held GE M134 ==

A hand held [[M134 minigun]] that can be bought off from Phil Cassidy after you complete his mission. Extreme rapid rate of fire and damage.
[[Image:Minigun 2.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Handheld M134 Minigun with 'Chainsaw grip' to handle the recoil force. This variant was seen in ''[[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]]''.]]

[[Image:Minigun sa.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M134 Minigun]]

== RPG-7 ==

The only rocket propelled explosive the player can have in their hands. Extremely effective against helicopters and pretty much anything else.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|RPG-7 70mm]]

[[Image:Rl vc.png|thumb|400px|none|RPG-7]]

== Flamethrower ==

A hand held flamethrower that scorches anyone in front of it. It has a medium-long range.

[[Image:Flame_sa.png|thumb|none|400px|Flamethrower]]

=Explosives=

== Molotov Cocktail ==

One of the types of grenades in the game. Ignites the area with fire that scorches anyone in it.

== Grenades ==

There are two types of grenades in the game. One type which explodes with a timed fuse and another that explodes with a detonator.

== Tear Gas ==

Usually found behind police precincts, they resemble the M18 Smoke Grenade and billow out a big grey smoke. Entering the cloud causes your vision to go blurry and you slowly take damage from the cloud.Can only be found in the PS2 version

=Others=

== Desert Eagle ==

Not a Gameplay Weapon, It is only seen during the Intro to 'Supply & Demand' & 'Rub Out'. Also appeared in the Cutscene for 'The Shootist' being duel wielded by Phil Cassidy. The Same Model later Appears in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

[[Image:DesertEagle357Black.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Desert Eagle - .357 Magnum]]

[[Image:Deagle sa.png‎|thumb|none|400px|IMI Desert Eagle]]

== Heckler & Koch MP5K ==

Not a Gameplay Weapon. It is only seen in the opening cutscene being used by one of the thugs that ambushes Tommy's drug deal. The same model later appears in Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories.

[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5K 9mm]]

[[Image:Mp5 lcs.png|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5K]]

== Hughes M230 chain gun and AGM-114 Hellfire anti-tank missile ==
Vice City features a version of the Hughes AH-64 Apache, known as the "Hunter." It has an M230 chain gun in a chin mount, and wing mounts containing eight AGM-114 Hellfire missiles in two packs of four, as well as two non-functional Hydra 70 rocket pods. Can be found at the military base, and the helipad in Ocean Beach when all missions and all hidden packages are completed. You can also use this for vigilante missions, althought these missions are called "Brown Thunder" instead (a spoof on the film, "Blue Thunder").

[[Image:Hughes-M230-Chain-Gun4.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Hughes M230 chain gun, 30mm.]]
[[Image:HunterVC.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hunter attack helicopter in GTA: Vice City]]

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Talk:Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

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its funny how all the submachine guns and pistols in this game are chrome.
:Its the 1980s Man!Back then everything was chromed.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]]
::They don't make em like that anymore...lol

Haha that is so true mate - I though I was the only one to notice that inaccuracy and get pissed by it. Funny how that also continued to SA, which is set in 1992. BTW, in reality, I highly doubt they make chrome MP5s! [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 14:35, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== The Eagle ==
:Is that really the model used in game?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
::No, but that's the closest one I could find. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 21:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Then what is it doing here?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I remember the scene that the Desert Eagle was used in, post a screenshot of that. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]
::Yeah, that is much better than using the Desert Eagle model in GTA IV.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
:Ok, I'll try to find it. [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 22:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
::I forget who wrote the Desert Eagle section, but they said that the model Lance Vance used was the same model in San Andreas. I have a picture of that, so I'll use that -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 17:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:::There was also a golden Desert Eagle.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:04, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I don't recall that, but where did you see it? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 18:46, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think there was a golden Eagle. I think it was used by Diaz to shoot up his video cassete and used by Lance or Tommy to execute Diaz.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:10, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Let me check on that for you. I know the one Lance use was definitely a standard Eagle, but i'll check the one Diaz used. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 19:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::::No, Diaz uses a standard Eagle as well. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 19:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Fuck, i gonna check some gameplay videos to see if there are any golden Desert Eagles.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Lance used a regular one. Now if i could only find the mission that Diaz shot up his cassete.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:31, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::Diaz used a regular one as well. I remember seing a golden desert eagle in one of the earlier GTAs don't know which one though.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:37, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I already checked the gameplay videos. The mission where Diaz shoots the cassette is "Supply and Demand" -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 21:47, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== Clean-up ==

Hey, just noticed a few missng things and inaccuracies here. Since I'm a complete GTA freak, I'll comment on them. I'm no gun-nut, so please feel free to correct any mistakes. But please gimme a heads up on this section, as I'm watching it and maybe waiting to pounce and flame you, j/k. :D
TC. [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 14:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
:Are you german or something?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:46, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Haha lol no, sorry for the typos. Actually Iraqi - guess that's much worse to be honest :D. Anyway done as much cleaning up as I can, as I gotta go somewhere now. Will hopefully continue tomorrow or whenever I'm free. I added a few more interesting tid-bits, aswell as standardised how each section and the different information is organised. Please anyone feel free to continue my work in the same style. Cheers, and TC all. [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 15:23, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

2009-08-15T15:24:31Z

Tec-9: /* Clean-up */

its funny how all the submachine guns and pistols in this game are chrome.
:Its the 1980s Man!Back then everything was chromed.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]]
::They don't make em like that anymore...lol

Haha that is so true mate - I though I was the only one to notice that inaccuracy and get pissed by it. Funny how that also continued to SA, which is set in 1992. BTW, in reality, I highly doubt they make chrome MP5s! [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 14:35, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== The Eagle ==
:Is that really the model used in game?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
::No, but that's the closest one I could find. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 21:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Then what is it doing here?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I remember the scene that the Desert Eagle was used in, post a screenshot of that. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]
::Yeah, that is much better than using the Desert Eagle model in GTA IV.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
:Ok, I'll try to find it. [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 22:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
::I forget who wrote the Desert Eagle section, but they said that the model Lance Vance used was the same model in San Andreas. I have a picture of that, so I'll use that -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 17:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:::There was also a golden Desert Eagle.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:04, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I don't recall that, but where did you see it? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 18:46, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think there was a golden Eagle. I think it was used by Diaz to shoot up his video cassete and used by Lance or Tommy to execute Diaz.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:10, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Let me check on that for you. I know the one Lance use was definitely a standard Eagle, but i'll check the one Diaz used. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 19:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::::No, Diaz uses a standard Eagle as well. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 19:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Fuck, i gonna check some gameplay videos to see if there are any golden Desert Eagles.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Lance used a regular one. Now if i could only find the mission that Diaz shot up his cassete.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:31, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::Diaz used a regular one as well. I remember seing a golden desert eagle in one of the earlier GTAs don't know which one though.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:37, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I already checked the gameplay videos. The mission where Diaz shoots the cassette is "Supply and Demand" -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 21:47, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== Clean-up ==

Hey, just noticed a few missng things and inaccuracies here. Since I'm a complete GTA freak, I'll comment on them. I'm no gun-nut, so please feel free to correct any mistakes. But please gimme a heads up on this section, as I'm watching it and maybe waiting to pounce and flame you, j/k. :D
TC. [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 14:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
:Are you german or something?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:46, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Haha lol no, sorry for the typos. Actually Iraqi - guess that's much worse to be honest :D. Anyway done as much cleaning up as i can, as I gotta go somewhere now. Will hopefully continue tomorrow or whenever I'm free. I added a few more interesting tid-bits, aswell as standardised how each section and the different information is organised. Please anyone feel free to continue my work in the same style. Cheers, and TC all. [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 15:23, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

2009-08-15T15:23:57Z

Tec-9: /* Clean-up */

its funny how all the submachine guns and pistols in this game are chrome.
:Its the 1980s Man!Back then everything was chromed.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]]
::They don't make em like that anymore...lol

Haha that is so true mate - I though I was the only one to notice that inaccuracy and get pissed by it. Funny how that also continued to SA, which is set in 1992. BTW, in reality, I highly doubt they make chrome MP5s! [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 14:35, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== The Eagle ==
:Is that really the model used in game?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
::No, but that's the closest one I could find. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 21:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Then what is it doing here?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I remember the scene that the Desert Eagle was used in, post a screenshot of that. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]
::Yeah, that is much better than using the Desert Eagle model in GTA IV.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
:Ok, I'll try to find it. [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 22:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
::I forget who wrote the Desert Eagle section, but they said that the model Lance Vance used was the same model in San Andreas. I have a picture of that, so I'll use that -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 17:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:::There was also a golden Desert Eagle.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:04, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I don't recall that, but where did you see it? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 18:46, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think there was a golden Eagle. I think it was used by Diaz to shoot up his video cassete and used by Lance or Tommy to execute Diaz.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:10, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Let me check on that for you. I know the one Lance use was definitely a standard Eagle, but i'll check the one Diaz used. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 19:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::::No, Diaz uses a standard Eagle as well. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 19:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Fuck, i gonna check some gameplay videos to see if there are any golden Desert Eagles.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Lance used a regular one. Now if i could only find the mission that Diaz shot up his cassete.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:31, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::Diaz used a regular one as well. I remember seing a golden desert eagle in one of the earlier GTAs don't know which one though.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:37, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I already checked the gameplay videos. The mission where Diaz shoots the cassette is "Supply and Demand" -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 21:47, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== Clean-up ==

Hey, just noticed a few missng things and inaccuracies here. Since I'm a complete GTA freak, I'll comment on them. I'm no gun-nut, so please feel free to correct any mistakes. But please gimme a heads up on this section, as I'm watching it and maybe waiting to pounce and flame you, j/k. :D
TC. [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 14:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
:Are you german or something?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:46, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Haha lol no, sorry for the typos. Actually Iraqi - guess that's much worse I guess :D. Anyway done as much cleaning up as i can, as I gotta go somewhere now. Will hopefully continue tomorrow or whenever I'm free. I added a few more interesting tid-bits, aswell as standardised how each section and the different information is organised. Please anyone feel free to continue my work in the same style. Cheers, and TC all. [[User:Tec-9|Tec-9]] 15:23, 15 August 2009 (UTC)