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Adam-12

2016-02-07T02:22:54Z

Sg688:

[[Image:Adam 12 box art.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Adam-12 (Television Series) (1968-1975)]]

'''''Adam-12''''' is the 1968 television series that starred [[Martin Milner]] and [[Kent McCord]] as police officers of the Los Angeles Police Department. The series was co-created by [[Jack Webb]] (''[[Dragnet]]'') and the series went to great lengths to accurately portray procedures and tactics of law enforcement. The series aired for 7 seasons on NBC from 1968 to 1975.

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=Revolvers=

==Smith & Wesson Model 14==
The standard sidearm for patrol officers of the Los Angeles Police Department in the series is the 6-inch barreled [[Smith & Wesson Model 14]] K-38 revolver. LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) and Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]), as well as several other police officers, are seen unholstering and firing their revolvers several times throughout the series. Many suspects are also seen using this gun. At the time, the S&W Model 14 was one of the standard revolvers used by LAPD officers. This model was used for the first three seasons (1968-1970). In 1970 L.A.P.D. transitioned to the 4" S&W Model 15. The show also changed so as to be technically accurate. Something that the production was proud of. For those interested in trivia many of the heavy barreled 6" Model 14's were cut down to four inch barrels by L.A.P.D. armorers. Occasionally one of these converted Model 14's can be found for sale on the used market. They are popular with police revolver collectors.

[[Image:Smith&WessonModel14.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 14 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) holds his Smith & Wesson Model 14 on a suspect in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LAPD Officer Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) with his Smith & Wesson Model 14 drawn in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy aims his Smith & Wesson Model 14 at two suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_Farrant_log_74.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Custom Farrant stocks on Malloy’s Smith & Wesson Model 14 in "log 74" (2.21)]]
[[Image:A_12_Malloy_K-38_Bank_Robbery_S2.4_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy’s K-38 Bank Robbery(2.4)]]
[[Image:A-12_Farrant_Malloy_Unloading_log_51.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy unloads his K-38 with Farrant stocks. (1.19)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==

In season 4, as the real-life LAPD transitioned from 6 inch to 4 inch barrel revolvers – often Model 14 K-38’s cut down by LAPD armorers, Adam-12 changed to [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] "Combat Masterpiece" revolvers, at the same time changing to hinged “clam shell” Safety Speed holsters from the more common pouch holsters used the first three years.

Throughout the series, Pete Malloy used distinctive finger-groove grips by custom grip maker (and famous LAPD range master) Earl “Fuzzy” Farrant. Starting in season 4, Jim Reed also wore custom Farrant grips on his Mdl. 15.

This Model 15 was the personal property of actor Martin Milner. He would use it again in 1989 in the made for television movie "Nashville Beat". It came up for auction in 2014. See the discussion page for further details.

Additional interesting facts: When LAPD went to the Model 14 4" type revolvers, all of these issued revolvers were altered to prevent the hammer from being cocked back. This was because LAPD did not want Officers to cock the weapon before firing it. Also, every one of these revolvers that I saw while on the job all had rubber target style grips when they were issued. Some people called these Pachmayrs, but these did not have the Pachmayr logo on them.

[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam_12_Malloy_Reed_S&W_M-15_Cartwright_600.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Reed and Malloy protect Angela Cartwright from "Assassination" with S&W M-15 revolvers.(4.11)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==

Malloy and Reed are shown with [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] Chief's Special .38 revolvers in cross-draw holsters when off duty or in their rare plain clothes assignments.

[[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_Lewis_xdraw_log_24.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Malloy with S&W Chief’s Special in Lewis cross-draw holster “log 24” (2.17)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Reed_M-36_xdraw_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Reed with S&W Chief’s Special in cross-draw holster “log 103” (2.6)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Malloy aiming S&W Chief’s Special “log 103” (2.6)]]

==Colt Detective Special==

Many Los Angeles Police detectives are seen with [[Colt Detective Special]]s in their holsters. The Detective Special was popular with many LAPD detectives (as well as many detectives throughout the country), due to its small size ideal for concealed carry, up until 1988, when the LAPD switched over to semi-autos.

[[Image:Colt Detective Special.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Detective Special - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-CDS-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A detective (right) with his Colt Detective Special holstered in "Log 131" (1.4). It is noted as a Colt DS by its round butt.]]

==Colt Official Police==
Several criminals are armed with [[Colt Official Police]] revolvers throughout the series.
[[Image:ColtOP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Official Police - .38 Spl]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed confiscates a suspect's Colt Official Police in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A suspect aims his Colt Official Police at Malloy in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Shotguns=

==Ithaca 37==

Los Angeles Police officers, including Peter Malloy and Jim Reed, are often seen using [[Ithaca 37]] shotguns whenever they must deal with armed suspects. They are equipped with standard 4 shot magazine tubes, 18 1/2 Barrels and have Parkerized finishes. This configuration was referred to as the "LAPD Special". The Ithaca 37 was the standard shotgun for the LAPD for several decades until the late 90s, when they switched over to the Remington 870.

[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ithaca 37 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy holds his Ithaca 37 when dealing with armed suspects in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed holds his Ithaca 37 during the hostage situation in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Officer Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]) with his Ithaca 37 in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-4.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed aims his Ithaca 37 at armed suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

==Winchester 1897 Shotgun==
[[Image:WinchesterM1897.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1897 Riot Gun - 12 Gauge]]

[[Image:Adam-12_Winch_97_Hostage_S2.12_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px| LAPD officer aims a non-standard [[Winchester Model 1897]] shotgun in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

==Double Barreled shotgun==

Many of the armed suspects that the LAPD encounters in the show are armed with [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Double barreled shotgun]]s.

[[Image:IGA-Coach-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Double Barreled shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-DBS-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy unloads a suspect's Double barreled shotgun in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Rifles=

==Colt AR-15==
Both Reed ([[Kent McCord]]) and Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) are seen armed with [[M16|AR-15]] rifles when part of LAPD's SWAT in "Log 14" (2.14).
[[File:Colt AR-15 Model SP1.jpg|thumb|none|450px]]
[[Image: Adam-12_Reed_AR-15_SWAT_log_14.JPG |thumb|none|450px|Reed armed with a Colt AR-15 in "S.W.A.T." "Log 14" (2.14)]]

==Remington Model 700 BDL Bolt Action Rifle==
LAPD SWAT officers are shown with [[Remington Model 700|Remington Model 700 BDL]] precision rifles.
[[Image:Remington-Model-700-BDL 308.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington Model 700 BDL]]
[[Image:Adam-12_SWAT_Rem_700_Hostage_S2.12_2_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LAPD SWAT officer aims Remington 700 BDL in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

[[Image:Adam-12_SWAT_Rem_700_Hostage_S2.12_3_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LAPD SWAT officer aims Remington 700 BDL in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

==M1 Carbine==

An [[M1 Carbine]] is seen in the hands of a suspect in Season 4's "The Tip" (Season 4 Episode 16).

[[Image:M1c.jpg|thumb|none|450px|]]

=Miscellaneous=

==Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher==

Sergeant MacDonald ([[William Boyett]]) carries a [[Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]] in the back of his patrol car, kept with several tear gas grenades in a brown case. He often loads it up when the police are dealing with a barricaded armed suspect, usually giving it to Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) to fire.

[[Image:Federal M201-Z Riot Gun.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]]

[[Image: A-12_Reed_gas_gun_s2.12_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy being unavailable, Reed ([[Kent McCord]]) prepares the Federal Gas Gun for Sgt. MacDonald in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

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File:A-12 Farrant Malloy Unloading log 51.jpg

2016-02-07T02:08:55Z

Sg688: Malloy unloads his K-38 S1 E19

Malloy unloads his K-38 S1 E19

Talk:Dr. No

2013-12-25T22:34:02Z

Sg688: /* Can someone identify what revolver is it? */

As Bond screws the suppressor into the FN, what has happened to his tie? This always seemed to be a glaring continuity error to me.

==Can someone identify what revolver is it?==
I mean the one used to film [[Dr. No#Gunbarrell sequence|Gunbarrell sequence]].
*In a two part interview in ''Starlog'' magazine, Maurice Binder said he bought .38 barrel (no mention made of the length) that he used for the gun barrel sequence (originally with stuntman and Bond double Bob Simmons). He filmed the sequence through a pinhole so both the rifling and Bob were in full focus.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] 19:33, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

The barrel in the opening sequence has right hand twist rifling. S&W barrels generally have left hand twist.--[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] ([[User talk:Sg688|talk]]) 17:34, 25 December 2013 (EST)

==middle gun==
I'm pretty sure the middle guy in the picture of the "three blind mice" is holding a Savage .32acp semi-auto. Which I knew what model, but that thing looks way too small to be a p-38.

Actually, in the film, in motion, it does clearly show the distinctive barrel of the P38. It just doesn't show right in the picture. --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 20:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Backwards magazine, Bren gun ==

I agree with the pic-comment that the magazine looks backwards. Also note that when the soldier fires the weapon the flash looks more like a gas-flame: hinting its a prop-weapon. My 2 cents worth. [[User:Dudster32|Dudster32]] 12:51, 30 July 2012 (CDT)
:The muzzle looks odd, too, like something's been placed inside the flared part. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:54, 30 July 2012 (CDT)

== Sten guns probably rubber props ==

I've reviewed the movie again and I do believe that at least a few of the Sten guns are rubber props: There are no charging handles. In fact the bolt & handle doesnt even have a way of travelling back and forward as the gun is solid all the way around. I dont have any new pics to show it in more detail yet, but I'm 99% sure of the above. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 12:57, 20 May 2013 (EDT)
[[File:Drnosten.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A better detailed photo. Note lack of charging handle.]]

Here is a better quality photo of a prop Sten. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 13:03, 20 May 2013 (EDT)

Well done, Dud. No doubt they also used one when the crew of the Dragon Tank hits Bond on the head when they capture him and Honey.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 17:21, 21 May 2013 (EDT)

:I'm not sure the one pictured above is a rubber prop. Firstly there is a lot of detail on that gun for a rubber stunt gun, particularly on the lower receiver. Also there are some parts that appear metal such as the end cap, sights and muzzle nut, along with all of the edges on the gun (granted this could be done with silver paint, but it would flake off of rubber and wouldn't look this consistent). Lastly, maybe it is just me but I can see the groove in the receiver for the bolt handle in the above photo. You can also see the slot for locking the bolt in the rear position, it is just ahead of the front of the trigger guard. It is not as obvious as it should be though (as the bolt handle is not visible at the rear it isn't cocked, meaning that the slot should be empty and black with a silver spring as in the gun image), and due to the fact that there is no visible bolt handle I think it may be a deactivated gun with the receiver filled with a plain metal cylinder or something like that (this would also explain why the "bolt" visible through the ejection port is plain and lacks an ejector. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:52, 21 May 2013 (EDT)

::After re-reviewing the movieI agree. Its probably a deactivated metal weapon in at least one of the scenes. In another scene (dont have photo yet) I can see a bolt-handle, but the gun still looks unusuable. I'll go over the pics and try and figure out which ones are deactivated or not. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 05:55, 22 May 2013 (EDT)

==Poster pistol==
[[File:DrNopistol.jpg |400px|thumb|none|Dr. No poster artwork]]
Is the pistol used in the poster based on an actual weapon?[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 07:22, 30 October 2013 (EDT)
[[File:Drnogoldfinger.jpg |300px|thumb|left|Same artwork reused for ‘’Goldfinger’’’]]
:Dont know..My first guess was a Luger, but on second look it doesnt look like it. Nor is it a [[Lahti L-35]] which would have been my second guess. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 15:00, 30 October 2013 (EDT)

::To me it looks more like a Ruger Standard, however it is hard to tell as the picture isn't great quality and due to the way it has been cropped to make the poster, I think some of the parts of the gun have actually been chopped off. There were also a few air pistols in the 60s that looked a bit like this, so think it might also be one of them. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:45, 30 October 2013 (EDT)
*Thank you very much for your help on this everyone. With that little protrusion on the back I thought it might be the Husqvarna M40 version of the Lahti L-35. The Ruger Standard looks well too, however the artwork doesn't seem to have an ejector port.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ([[User talk:Foofbun|talk]]) 17:46, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
[[File:Husqvarna M40.jpg|300px|thumb|left|Husqvarna M40]]
[[File:Rugerstandard.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Ruger Standard]]

Red Dawn (1984)

2012-12-19T02:04:03Z

Sg688: /* Ruger Model 77 */

[[Image:RedDawnMoviePoster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Red Dawn'' (1984)]]
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''Red Dawn'' is a 1984 action war film that dramatizes the possibility of a Soviet invasion of the continental United States. Directed by [[John Milius]], the film stars [[Patrick Swayze]], [[Charlie Sheen]], [[Lea Thompson]], and [[Jennifer Grey]] as a group of mostly teenagers who become resistance fighters against the occupying force. The film is notable for the amount of effort put into accurately depicting modern Soviet armor and weaponry, particularly for a production made during the time of the Cold War. A [[Red Dawn (2012)|remake]] of the film was released in the US on November 21, 2012.

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=Handguns=

==Colt Single Action Army==
Jed Eckert ([[Patrick Swayze]]) is seen using a Colt [[Single Action Army]] revolver with ivory grips as his sidearm in the film. The revolver is mentioned to have been previously owned by Jed and Matt's grandfather. The revolver used was a personal piece owned by director [[John Milius]].
[[Image:ColtSingleActionArmy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army "Artillery" model with 5.5" barrel - .45 Long Colt]]
[[Image:RedDawnSAAIvory01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Matt Eckert ([[Charlie Sheen]]) hands over the Single Action Army (circled in red) to Jed Eckert ([[Patrick Swayze]]).]]
[[Image:RedDawnSAAkillA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Jed Eckert prepares to shoot Yuri (Sam Slovick) near the sign for the Arapaho National Park, with his Single Action Army.]]
[[Image:RedDawnSAAWinterShootA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|''"Because we LIVE HERE!!!!!!"'' Jed pulls his Single Action Army.]]
[[Image:RedDawnSAASnowNightA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''"You lose."'' Jed Eckert announces his presence to Colonel Strelnikov, instead of just shooting him.]]

==Walther PP Pistol==
The Nicaraguan Captain ([[Judd Omen]]) holds a [[Walther PP Pistol Series|Walther PP Pistol]] as he hunts for Jed and Matt during the final engagement. In reality, the pistol was probably supposed to be a [[Makarov PM]], but that is explained below.
[[Image:Walther-PP-Post-War.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Post war Walther PP Pistol - .32 ACP]]
[[Image:RedDawn-Walther-PP2a.jpg ‎|thumb|none|600px|The Nicaraguan Captain ([[Judd Omen]]) holds a Walther PP Pistol as he hunts for Jed and Matt - .32 ACP. He would later be blinded by Matt's RPG back blast. The Walther PP was standing in for the Makarov, which was unavailable at the time of filming.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==
A [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] (denoted by its tapered barrel) with Pachmayr grips is the 'survival pistol' belonging to USAF Colonel Andrew Tanner ([[Powers Boothe]]) but it is taken away from him by Erica. Interestingly enough, the Model 15 was the issued revolver to USAF Security Police from 1962-1985 so it is feasible for a USAF Colonel to wield one. Combat pilots were given a wide latitude of the personal sidearm they could carry, with many opting for small revolvers, like the Airweight, or traditional semiauto pistols like the M1911.
[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 15 .38 Special]]
[[Image:RedDawnS&WMod19A.jpg|thumb|none|600px|U.S.A.F. Colonel Andrew Tanner ([[Powers Boothe]]) sleeps with his Smith & Wesson Model 15 with combat grips at his side.]]
[[Image:RedDawnS&WMod19 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tanner's Model 15 is confiscated by Erica ([[Lea Thompson]]).]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRGD-33a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Later, during the liberation raid on the re-education camp, Col. Tanner again has the Smith & Wesson Model 15 in a shoulder holster.]]

==M1911A1==
An [[M1911A1]] pistol is first seen in the "cold dead hands" of an American who resisted the Soviet invasion. The pistol is pulled from the hand of the man and inspected by a Soviet Paratrooper who stuffs it behind his webbing belt. The M1911A1 seen in this scene is a commercial blued version. A parkerized M1911A1 is also used by Colonel Andrew Tanner during the final snow battle.
[[Image:ColtMkIVSeries70.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Colt 1911 Series 70 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:RedDawnM1911A1DeadPrea.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|In the leadup to seeing the first M1911A1, this iconic bumper sticker is seen - this particular saying was popular during the 1970s and 1980s and indicated most American gun owners' disdain for draconian gun control.]]
[[Image:RedDawnM1911A1DeadA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|In one of the most famous (and morbid) twists on a pop culture phrase, a Soviet paratrooper prepares to take a blued commercial M1911A1 from the dead hands of a Colorado resident who decided to fight back.]]

Later in the film, despite having his Smith & Wesson Model 15 revolver, Colonel Tanner ends up with a military M1911A1 pistol, seen during the snow battle. It is assumed that he picked it up somewhere along the way, like the previous Soviet Paratrooper, since none of the occupying forces would be carrying that pistol.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:RedDawnM1911.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Col. Tanner fires at one of the Soviet tankers in the snow battle with his M1911A1 Pistol. His version appears to be parkerized, thus a military version.]]

==CZ 75==
The leader of the Soviet Paratroopers, in the attack on Calumet High School, motions to his troops with an original [[CZ 75]] handgun, and not one of the later "B" models.
[[Image:Cz75.jpg|thumb|none|350px|"Pre-B" CZ 75 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:RedDawnPistolA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet Paratrooper officer gestures with his CZ 75 pistol during the initial incursion.]]

==Tokarev TT-33 Pistol==
During the initial attack, one of the officers does have an actual [[Tokarev TT-33]] Pistol (several viewings of the clip verified it, even though the actor whips it back and forth). He stands next to another paratrooper firing an RPG - with those bright yellow and blue rockets.
[[File:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:RedDawnTT33A.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Soviet Airborne officer tells another paratrooper where to aim his RPG-7. The officer in the back holds up his Tokarev TT-33 pistol. This handgun was well obsolete by this time for frontline troops in the USSR.]]

=Submachine Gun=

==Jatimatic Submachine Gun==
The [[Jatimatic SMG]] was used by Colonel Strelnikov ([[William Smith]]) when he is hunting Matt and Jed at the end of the film. It was supposed to represent the Polish manufactured [[PM-63]] machine pistol as none were available in the country at the time of filming due to the Cold War.
[[Image:JatimaticSMALL.JPG|thumb|400px|none|Jatimatic - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:RedDawnStrelnikovJatimatic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov actually wears the Jatimatic on a custom holster during his speech to the assembled Soviet and Cuban officers. It is a bit strange for the Colonel to wear his submachine gun on his hip when he is making a speech, however, always having the Jatimatic near him at all times, differentiated Col. Strelnikov from all other Soviet officers.]]
[[Image:RedDawnStrelnikovJatimatic 02.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov brandishes the Jatimatic when he hunts for Jed and Matt at the train station.]]
[[Image:RedDawnJatimaticFiresTrainA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov fires his Jatimatic submachine gun at Matt Eckert, who is hiding on a freight train]]
[[Image:RedDawnJatimaticDeathA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov reacts to being shot by Jed Eckert's Single Action Army revolver while firing his Jatimatic submachine gun]]

=Shotguns=

==Winchester Model 1912==
The Shotgun that Robert takes from his father's Gas Station/General Store is initially a [[Winchester Model 1912]] with a field barrel (28"). Robert Morris ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) uses it in the first encounter with Soviet soldiers in the National park.
[[Image:Winchester Model 1912.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 12 Shotgun with Field Barrel - 12 gauge.]]
[[Image:RedDawnRobertShotgunA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) prepares to fire his Winchester Model 12 field shotgun.]]

== Remington 870 Wingmaster ==
In a continuity break, the Winchester Model 1912 previously seen morphs into a [[Remington 870 Shotgun|Remington 870 Wingmaster]]. The Remington 870 Wingmaster is first seen when Robert is sawing down the long barrel to make a short barreled shotgun. The cut down 870 is used pretty much exclusively by Robert for the rest of the film.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg |thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 Gauge]]‎
[[Image:RedDawn870.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert cuts down the barrel of his Remington 870 Wingmaster. ''Legal note: Viewers have often pondered as to the legality of actually sawing off a shotgun barrel for the film. Since the actual Remington 870 firing gun from the armorers '''was already a short barreled shotgun''', installing a long barrel on it and then cutting it down (while being filmed by the cameras) is not an illegal act, since the gun is not being converted into a something that it is not already.'']]
[[Image:RedDawnAKM&870.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert fires his short 870 while alongside Matt with his AKM.]]

=Rifles & Carbines=

== Maadi ARM ==
According to Long Mountain Outfitters [http://www.longmountain.com/just-for-fun/movie-guns/RedDawn/], the [[AK-47#AKM|AKM]] rifles used in the movie were actually Egyptian Maadi MISR '''(imported into the US as the ARM)''' semi-auto rifles, some of the first semi-automatic Kalashnikov-type rifles ever imported into the United States (besides the Clayco AKM copies). 53 such rifles were used in the movie, 32 of which were converted to full-auto by Class 3 manufacturer Pearl Manufacturing specially for the film. These guns were later used in numerous other movies. These weapons are not to be confused with the post-1989 imported firearms called "MISR" which were modified to comply with the federal import ban.
[[Image:RD-Maadi.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Maadi ARM (AKM) as used in ''Red Dawn'' (image from Long Mountain Outfitters) - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|AKM - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:RedDawnWOLVERINES.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aardvark ([[Doug Toby]]) utters the now-classic line "Wolverines!" while holding a Maadi ARM rifle converted to full auto fire.]]
[[Image:RedDawnAKM.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jed ([[Patrick Swayze]]) delivers some hot lead to a Russian tanker via an AKM.]]
[[Image:RedD84 107.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Daryl Bates ([[Darren Dalton]]) opens fire with the AKM.]]
[[Image:RedD84 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Danny ([[Brad Savage]]) holds the AKM while asking what a "flank" is.]]

==Fake AKS-74==
Fake [[AK-74#AKS-74|AKS-74]]s are used by Soviet paratroopers in the first attack on the school and Soviet Spetsnaz during the battle in the snow. They are actually Maadi ARMs that were very cleverly mocked up with bakelite plastic magazines, skeleton stocks, and custom-made muzzle brakes that resemble that of the [[AK-74]].
[[Image:aks74.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AKS-74 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeAK74Snow2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Spetnaz Snow troopers advance with faked AK-74 rifles made from Maadi ARMs]]
[[Image:RedDawnAK74 03A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Several angles of the mocked up AK-74 with the custom Muzzle Brake and the non-folding Skeletal stock. These rifles also use orange bakelite 7.62x39mm magazines. As a contrast, the standard AKMs in the film used metal magazines]]

==FN FAL==
Cuban and Nicaraguan soldiers can be seen carrying [[FN FAL]] rifles as their main weapons.
[[Image:FN FAL 50 00.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN FAL 50.00 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:RedDawnFNFAL.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A quick but clear shot of the FAL rifle being brandished by the Cuban / Nicaraguan troops during an ambush. Most of the time the soldiers held the rifles close to their bodies, making a clear view difficult]]

==Ruger Mini 14 GB==
A [[Ruger Mini-14]] GB is briefly seen being handed out to freed prisoners at the re-education camp, and later seen obviously by an escaping 'political prisoner' during the night raid.
[[Image:RugerAC556.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Ruger AC556 Carbine - 5.56x45mm. Full auto version of Ruger Mini 14 GB.]]
[[Image:RedDawnRugerGBa.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Unidentified man with a Ruger Mini 14 GB runs out the gate]]

==M16A1 Rifle==
A few [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1 rifles]] can be briefly seen being handed out to freed prisoners at the re-education camp, and later seen by another running 'political prisoner' during the night raid.
[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:RedDawnM16A1A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Unidentified man with an M16A1 runs out the gate]]

==Marlin Model 336C==
The [[Marlin Model 336|Marlin Model 336C]] lever action rifle was picked up from the store just after the invasion. Arturo "Aardvark" Mondragon ([[Doug Toby]]) fires a single shot from the back of a pickup truck at Russian troops, after an American UH-1 helicopter attacks the Soviets on the ground using rockets. He also uses it in some of the ambushes later in the film.
[[Image:MarlinModel336C.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Marlin Model 336C - .30-30 Winchester]]
[[Image:RedDawnMarlin336CFireA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Arturo "Aardvark" Mondragon fires the Marlin Model 336C from the pickup truck.]]
[[Image:RedDawnMod1894 02.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|500px|Aardvark fires the Marlin Model 336C during an ambush.]]

==Ruger Model 77 ==
Jed ([[Patrick Swayze]]) picks up a [[Ruger Model 77]] Ultralight bolt action rifle from Mr. Morris' store at the beginning of the film. He uses it as a sniper rifle during some of the ambushes.
[[Image:Ruger_77_II_Hawkeye_Ultra_Light_R_fac.jpg|thumb|none|501px|Ruger 77 Mk II Ultra Light]]
[[Image:RedDawnHuntingRifleA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert Morris ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) borrows Jed Eckert's rifle to hunt deer, while Matt Eckert carries the Marlin Model 336C.]]
[[Image:RedDawnMod70.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Jed surveys the desolate battlefield with his rifle.]]
[[Image:RedDawnSavageHorseback.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Jed says goodbye to Mr. & Mrs. Mason, the grandparents of Toni and Erica Mason, while holding his rifle on horseback.]]
[[Image:RedDawnMod70 02.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|Jed on an ambush with his rifle. Note the shape of the bolt handle and the bolt shroud projecting from behind it, features the Savage 110 does not have. A Savage 110 would also have a bolt-release catch forward of the bolt handle on the receiver. Note also the Ruger 77 scope mounts integral to the receiver, the slightly dog-leg Ruger bolt handle, and the short, light barrel and stock with forend tip that are distinctive features of the Ruger 77 Ultra Light Rifle.]]

==Remington Model 572 Fieldmaster==
Seen in the gun rack above Jed's Savage 110 bolt action rifle is a [[Remington Model 572 Fieldmaster]] pump action rifle. The 572 is a pump action 22 that will shoot 22 shorts, 22 long, or 22 long rifle cartridges. Ammunition is supplied by a tubular magazine under the barrel which holds 15-20 rounds depending on the caliber used. This ability to use all three cartridges is a major difference with other pump action 22s which use only the long rifle cartridge. The Remington 572 is a popular plinker and small game rifle which would be ideal as a survival weapon although it did not see additional use in the movie.
[[Image:Remington-572-right.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington Model 572 Fieldmaster - .22 Short / .22 L / .22 LR]]
[[Image:Remington-572-left.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington Model 572 Fieldmaster - .22 Short / .22 L / .22 LR]]
[[Image:RedDawnGunRack01A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:RedDawnGunRak07a.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

=Machine Guns=
==Valmet M78==
The [[Valmet M78]] LMG stands in for the Soviet [[RPK light machine gun|RPK]] since none were available in the US when this movie was filmed. The M78 LMG was used by Russian Paratroopers in the beginning of the movie and, and later by the Wolverines, most notably by Toni Mason ([[Jennifer Grey]]) and Jed ([[Patrick Swayze]]). The LMG is seen fitted with a 30-round "curved" magazine as well as a drum magazine.
[[Image:Valmet_M78_LMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Valmet M78 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:RedD84 03.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|The Soviet paratrooper fires the Valmet M78 (used as a substitute for the more accurate Russian [[RPK]]).]]
[[Image:RedDawnValmetM78 02.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|Soviet paratrooper fires the Valmet M78 LMG on the students during the initial attack on the high school.]]
[[Image:RedDawnValmetJenGrey.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Toni Mason ([[Jennifer Grey]]) fires her Valmet M78 LMG during an ambush.]]
[[Image:RedDawnvalmet02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Valmet M78 LMG can be seen on a table along with the bright yellow RPG rockets with bright blue tubes.]]
[[Image:RedDawnM78DrumA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Jed ([[Patrick Swayze]]) holds a Valmet M78 (now fitted with a drum magazine) while sitting in the snow.]]
[[Image:RedDawnValmetM78 04.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Jed takes up the Valmet M78 upon the hearing of helicopter blades.]]

==Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun==
At the time of filming, there were no authentic [[DShK heavy machine gun|DShK heavy machine guns]] available for use in movies, so the armorers mocked-up DShKs from [[M60 machine gun#M60D Machine Gun|M60D machine gun]]s. Apparently the size difference between a 7.62mm gun and a .50 cal gun wasn't enough to distract people during the movie. The DShK mockup is seen being fired throughout the film by Erica ([[Lea Thompson]]). These particular mockups would be used in several 1980's television series including ''[[Magnum P.I.]]'', ''[[MacGyver]]'', and ''[[Airwolf]]''.
[[Image:M60d.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M60D machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|350px|An authentic DShk machine gun]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDshsTankGun01A.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|This is the first scene where the DShK Heavy machine guns are featured, mocked up out of M60D machine guns is when one is mounted on a faked T-72 Tank. What is confusing is that there is an Airborne officer 'commanding' a Main battle tank, which would not be the case. Blue was the color of shoulder boards and collar tabs for Airborne soldiers, Black was the color for Armored Units.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDshsTankGun02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A better angle of the Fake DShK where we can see the M60 origins. The Airborne officer with the blue beret and goggles is [[Fred Rexer]], the former Green Beret (and personal friend of Director John Milius), who trained all of the young actors playing the Wolverines in guerilla warfare.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDsHkTankerA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When American prisoners are executed, including Jed and Matt's father, Tom Eckert ([[Harry Dean Stanton]]), we see Soviet Tankers firing their fake DShKs into the line of prisoners.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDSHK-M60.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|500px|In the snow battle, we clearly see the fake DShKs mounted on the fake T-72 tanks that are made from M60Ds]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDSHKHousea.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Erica ([[Lea Thompson]]) first uses a fake DShK during the ambush.]]
[[Image:RedDawnLeaThompsonM60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In the ambush on the Spetnaz troops in the snow, Lea Thompson can clearly be seen firing a mocked up M60D, posing as a DShK.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHindDoorGunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|One of the fake DShK heavy machine guns is seen mounted as a door gun on the fake Hind helicopter gunships]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDshsBattleA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|During the final battle we get a good look at just how LONG and slender the faked DShK barrel is, when mounted on the M60D as a platform]]

==Fake Goryunov SGM Machine gun==
Yet another Soviet-era machine gun that was mocked up from the venerable (and available) [[M60 machine gun]] is the [[Goryunov SG-43 Machine Gun|Goryunov SGM machine gun]].
[[Image:M60d.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M60D machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:RedDawnSnowLMGNewA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) fires a Mocked up Goryunov SGM Machine Gun that was built up from an M60. The rate of fire was increased to around 1100 rpm versus the more standard 750 round per minute and the design of the gun was disguised by wrapping it in white cloth.]]
[[Image:RedDawnM60 04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert's position during the snow battle has a fake Goryunov, mocked up from yet another M60 Machine Gun. The white wrapping has fallen off, exposing the M60s' pistol grip lower receiver, whereas the SGM has spade grips.]]

==Browning M2HB Heavy Machine Gun==
Seen briefly but never used is a knocked out [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB heavy machine gun]], mounted on a destroyed M42 "Duster" anti-aircraft vehicle.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:RedDawnTankGun03a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Matt, Jed and Robert run past a destroyed M42 Duster with a Browning M2HB Heavy Machine gun, lying cockeyed off of it's mount, presumably inoperable, or else the Russians would not have left it out in the open]]
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==GE M134 Minigun==
An abandoned [[GE M134 Minigun]], possibly from a crashed vehicle/chopper can be seen on the abandoned battlefield. It is noteworthy that there seem to be many 'abandoned' weapons, from .50 cal machine guns to .30 cal machine guns, however, it must be assumed that these are damaged and inoperable, or else the Soviets would never just leave them for anyone to pick up.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|300px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:RedDawnTankGun2a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Visible to the right, on the ground is the GE M134 Minigun and the articulated belt feeding tray.]]
[[Image:RedDawnMinigunWeb.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Just to the left of Matt Eckert is an abandoned GE M134 Minigun]]

=Grenades=

==Fake RGD-5 Hand Grenades==
In the film we see numerous fake Soviet [[RGD-5 hand grenade]]s, however, the paint scheme is off and the scale is too large.
[[Image:Rdg5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|RGD-5 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRGD5Roofa.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Robert drops "RGD-5" mocked up grenades during one of the ambushes, off of the roof onto the Cuban & Soviet Soldiers.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRGDGrenadeA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Toni Mason ([[Jennifer Grey]]) has an RGD-5 grenade placed as a boobytrap.]]

==Fake RGD-33 Stick Grenade==
Colonel Tanner uses a stick grenade to destroy one of the YAK-36 VTOL fighters parked near the re-education camp. Though it is cool, it seems strange that the Soviet Navy would have VTOL fighters parked so close to an internment camp, unless they were using the Americans as human shields against long range missile strikes or aerial bombardment. The stick grenade is a mockup, however it could be either a fake of the [[RGD-33 stick grenade]] or the [[RKG-3 anti-tank grenade]].
[[Image:Rgd-33russianfrag mp.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RGD-33 High-Explosive Fragmentation stick grenade]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRGD-33a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Col. Tanner shows a stick grenade to a YAK-36 pilot moments before tossing it in the intake]]

=Heavy Weapons/Other=

== Fake RPG-7 ==
[[RPG-7]]s are used by Soviet and Communist Bloc soldiers, and later Matt ([[Charlie Sheen]]). The weapon itself is a fabricated prop, utilizing a vintage 1950s era RPG-2 as a base. A flared rear blast cone and a second 'fake' pistol grip was added as well as a fake PGO-7 scope that was fabricated out of plastic (it's a bit too large and wrongly shaped for the real PGO-7 scope). The rocket warhead is a plastic and rubber fabrication and not an RPG-2 rocket head. The fuse tip itself is the cap from a Crest toothpaste tube!
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[Image:RedD84 122.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|During the initial attack, a Soviet paratrooper prepares to use the RPG-7. The weapon itself is a fabricated prop, utilizing a vintage 1950s era RPG-2 as a base.]]
[[Image:RedD84 102.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Danny Bates ([[Brad Savage]]) fires the RPG mockup left-handed.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPG7 02.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Matt ([[Charlie Sheen]]) aims his plastic and rubber mockup of an RPG-7 (though no RPG at the time had a bright yellow warhead with a Bright light blue rocket tube.)]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPG7 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the rubber rocket head of the fake RPG-7. The fuse tip itself is the cap from a Crest toothpaste tube!]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPGRobertA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Later in the film, the rocket heads are less bright yellow, now a more mustard color. Robert Morris ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) aims his RPG-7 at a Hind helicopter.]]

On another note, the rocket of the fake RPG-7 (like many other films that use rocket launchers) is a foam rubber fake when firing around actors. Prior to the advent of CGI in films, they were fired with real Estes rocket motors and '''guided along wires''' to their targets. Below, a frame of film is seen where the wire can clearly be seen that will guide the foam rubber rocket head to its intended target.
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPG7Wire.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A view of the wire that guides the phony rocket head to its target.]]
[[Image:RedD84 178.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Robert fires the RPG. The warheads were made of foam and were fired with real Estes rocket motors.]]

== Fake SA-7 Grail ==
A [[SA-7 Grail]] mockup (built from metal tubing and plastic) is used by a Cuban soldier to fire at an attacking American UH-1D Helicopter. The mockup of the SA-7 is quite accurate. However, it is a little particular that the soldier firing a heat seeking surface to air missile cannot hit a slow moving UH-1 "Huey" (The post Vietnam "G" model with twin turbines (unless the weapon was fired in completely the wrong direction!).
[[Image:800px-SA-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SA-7 ''Grail'' aka Russian Strela-2 surface to air missile - 70mm]]
[[Image:RedDawnStrela01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuban Soldier readies to fire his mocked up SA-7 "Grail" Surface to Air Missile at attacking American UH1G Helicopters. This is an excellent movie mockup.]]
[[Image:RedDawnSA7Grail.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SA-7 "Grail" Surface to air missile is fired at night in the downtown suburb of Calumet, CO. (actually a street in the small town of Las Vegas, New Mexico).]]

==Fake UB-32 Rocket Pods (on Fake Hind Gunship)==
Fake 32-round UB-32 rocket pods for the Russian S-5 unguided air-to-ground rocket are seen on the mocked up Hind-A helicopter gunship, along with wing mounted hardpoints with mocked-up twin launch rails for fake AT-2 "Swatter" anti-tank missiles.
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind03a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Fake Rocket pods are mounted on the wings of the Hind gunship.]]

=Gun Platforms=

== Fake Mil Mi-24 "Hind" Gunship ==
The "Mil Mi-24 Hinds" seen in the film are excellent mockups of Hind-As (painted with winter camo) built up from French''' Aerospatiale Pumas''' and were later used again in other movies such as ''[[Rambo: First Blood Part II]]'' and ''[[Rambo III]]''. The version depicted was the earliest incarnation of the Hind, the Model-A with the blunt angular "greenhouse" side-by-side cockpit rather than the later twin in-line "double bubble" canopy. The Hind-A was also seen in the film ''[[Firefox]]'', however those were 1/12th scale radio controlled flying models. For the film ''[[Red Dawn]]'', three Pumas were modified (and all seen on film) and all had a fake Hind-A 'nose' sections built with darked tinted windows that slipped over the front end of the real Puma helicopter. (If you look closely, you can see the real nose of the Puma 'underneath' the Hind nose section through the tinted windows in some shots.) However, this modification limited pilot vision and also restricted motion - quick turns were not possible lest the fake nose front end be ripped off the helicopter. Later incarnations of the same modified Puma helicopter removed the extended Hind-A nose sections, but kept the fake wings and rockets pods (as these were sturdy modifications and didn't adversely affect the aerodynamics of the helicopter.)
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind01a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Two of the three faux "Hind" helicopters chase the Wolverines in the beginning of the assault.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|One part of the PUMA helicopter that could not be modified was the bulging pods for the rear landing gear/wheels. The real Hinds are smooth sided, with retractable landing gear, to make them more sleek and aerodynamic in attack maneuvers.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind05a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Seen on the nose is a mockup of the '''single barreled 12.7mm heavy machine gun''' that was standard on the Hind-A helicopter. Only the later models of the helicopter upgraded to 12.7 mm YakB gatling gun (which in turn was later replaced by a twin 30mm autocannon setup on the right side of the forward fuselage).]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind06a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|In real life, use of the Hind-As are a bit anachronistic, since the ubiquitous '''Hind-D''' (the version we see today with the twin tandem nose canopies) replaced all previous Hind gunships in active service beginning in 1974. The Hind-As had design problems which forced their replacement by the Model D and had been replaced in most front line units by 1977.]]
In several shots, we can see the actual nose assembly of the original PUMA helicopter underneath the tinted glass windows of the extended "faux" nose.
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHindUndera.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Visible is the original nose of the Puma Helicopter under the tinted glass. The filmmakers just mounted the fake nose on top of the real helicopter nose.]]

== M42 "Duster" 40mm Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun ==
An M42 "Duster" SPAAG that has been knocked out of action is prominent in the ghost battlefield sequence. Of course what is noticeably missing from the plethora of destroyed vehicles on the battlefield are main battle tanks like M1 Abrams or infantry fighting vehicles. The M42 "Dusters" were built on obsolete M41 Walker Bulldog light tank chassis that were outfitted with twin 40mm AA guns and were used by ground troops in Vietnam, before being retired from regular Army service in 1972. The M42 was then only found as a Corps Level asset in National Guard units until it was fully retired in 1988.
[[Image:RedDawnM42DusterA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jed, Robert and Matt walk past a knocked out M42 "Duster" - 40mm Main armament with a Browning M2HB mounted on the back.]]

== Fake Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun ==
A Fake Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun was built on an American M8A1 Cargo Tractor chassis by Veluzet Armored Vehicles, out of Newhall, California. This ZSU-23 replica was also used in 1988's ''[[Rambo III]]'' as well as the 1991 [[John Milius]]-directed film ''[[Flight of the Intruder]]''.
[[Image:RedDawnZSUNightAttacka.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The faux Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled AA gun seen in the film [[Red Dawn]] during the night attack. Unlike the film ''[[Flight of the Intruder]]'' (which mounted a real quad 50 comprising Browning M2HBs), this ZSU-23 only has fake mockup AA guns, so it is never seen firing in the movie.]]
[[Image:RedDawnZSUChassisBare.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''Behind the Scenes:''' Inside the Veluzat Tank shop, the M8A1 Cargo Tractor has a steel frame welded into place that will eventually become the Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled AA gun seen in the film [[Red Dawn]].]]
[[Image:RedDawn ZSUparked.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''Behind the Scenes:''' The faux Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled AA gun seen in the film [[Red Dawn]] is parked as mechanics do some last minute testing.]]

== Fake Soviet T-72 Main Battle Tank ==
The Fake T-72 tanks from the film were built on the chassis of a surplus M8A1 Cargo Tractor, which itself was a stretched version of the M41 Walker Bulldog with four return rollers and six roadwheels per side instead of three return rollers and five roadwheels. These mockups would later be used in 1988's ''[[Rambo III]]''.
[[Image:RedDawnT72SnowCamoA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A beautifully painted Faux T-72 Tank rolls up to the snow battle. The 125mm main gun is an aluminum and fiberglass tube that mounted a black powder charge in front to simulate firing. Note four return rollers in two pairs rather than the five of an M48 Patton or three of an M41 Walker Bulldog.]]
[[Image:RedDawnT72TurretPainted.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''Behind the Scenes:''' The fiberglass turret of the faux Soviet T-72 built for and seen in the film [[Red Dawn]] has been painted with a different paint scheme. In all the Fake T-72s impersonated multiple tanks with different paint schemes, most seen is the green urban, the field camo and the winter camo patterns.]]

=Trivia=

== Morris's Market ==
As many viewers remember, there was a large rack of sporting/hunting long guns in Mister Morris's Gas Station/General Store and Mister Morris hands out food, guns and ammunition to the boys and tells them to leave and "don't look back." However, none of the long guns in Mister Morris's gun rack can be identified due to the dark lighting in the shot.
[[Image:RedDawnMorrisMarketA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A view of the dark gun rack in Mister Morris's Market. It is extremely difficult to identify the weapons in the rack due to the dark shadowy lighting in the scene.]]

== Inaccurate Captioning on the DVD ==
During the planning of the attack on the re-education camp, Col. Tanner mystifies most of the Wolverines with his military jargon. Apparently the jargon is unknown to the people doing the captioning of the DVD as well. He refers to grazing fire at a '''defilade''' (using the verb as a noun to refer to an area which the Soviets have prepared in such a way as to protect the position from ''enfilading'' fire). Erica Mason ([[Lea Thompson]]) responds with "''Devolay''?". The Closed captions on the DVD incorrectly quotes Tanner as saying '''"duffle-A"''' which makes no sense.
[[Image:RedDawn-Duffle-Aa.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Caption of this scene incorrectly quotes Tanner as saying "duffle-A" when in fact he says "Defilade" (which is a real military term).]]

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Red Dawn (1984)

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[[Image:RedDawnMoviePoster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Red Dawn'' (1984)]]
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''Red Dawn'' is a 1984 action war film that dramatizes the possibility of a Soviet invasion of the continental United States. Directed by [[John Milius]], the film stars [[Patrick Swayze]], [[Charlie Sheen]], [[Lea Thompson]], and [[Jennifer Grey]] as a group of mostly teenagers who become resistance fighters against the occupying force. The film is notable for the amount of effort put into accurately depicting modern Soviet armor and weaponry, particularly for a production made during the time of the Cold War. A [[Red Dawn (2012)|remake]] of the film was released in the US on November 21, 2012.

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=Handguns=

==Colt Single Action Army==
Jed Eckert ([[Patrick Swayze]]) is seen using a Colt [[Single Action Army]] revolver with ivory grips as his sidearm in the film. The revolver is mentioned to have been previously owned by Jed and Matt's grandfather. The revolver used was a personal piece owned by director [[John Milius]].
[[Image:ColtSingleActionArmy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army "Artillery" model with 5.5" barrel - .45 Long Colt]]
[[Image:RedDawnSAAIvory01a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Matt Eckert ([[Charlie Sheen]]) hands over the Single Action Army (circled in red) to Jed Eckert ([[Patrick Swayze]]).]]
[[Image:RedDawnSAAkillA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Jed Eckert prepares to shoot Yuri (Sam Slovick) near the sign for the Arapaho National Park, with his Single Action Army.]]
[[Image:RedDawnSAAWinterShootA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|''"Because we LIVE HERE!!!!!!"'' Jed pulls his Single Action Army.]]
[[Image:RedDawnSAASnowNightA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''"You lose."'' Jed Eckert announces his presence to Colonel Strelnikov, instead of just shooting him.]]

==Walther PP Pistol==
The Nicaraguan Captain ([[Judd Omen]]) holds a [[Walther PP Pistol Series|Walther PP Pistol]] as he hunts for Jed and Matt during the final engagement. In reality, the pistol was probably supposed to be a [[Makarov PM]], but that is explained below.
[[Image:Walther-PP-Post-War.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Post war Walther PP Pistol - .32 ACP]]
[[Image:RedDawn-Walther-PP2a.jpg ‎|thumb|none|600px|The Nicaraguan Captain ([[Judd Omen]]) holds a Walther PP Pistol as he hunts for Jed and Matt - .32 ACP. He would later be blinded by Matt's RPG back blast. The Walther PP was standing in for the Makarov, which was unavailable at the time of filming.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==
A [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] (denoted by its tapered barrel) with Pachmayr grips is the 'survival pistol' belonging to USAF Colonel Andrew Tanner ([[Powers Boothe]]) but it is taken away from him by Erica. Interestingly enough, the Model 15 was the issued revolver to USAF Security Police from 1962-1985 so it is feasible for a USAF Colonel to wield one. Combat pilots were given a wide latitude of the personal sidearm they could carry, with many opting for small revolvers, like the Airweight, or traditional semiauto pistols like the M1911.
[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 15 .38 Special]]
[[Image:RedDawnS&WMod19A.jpg|thumb|none|600px|U.S.A.F. Colonel Andrew Tanner ([[Powers Boothe]]) sleeps with his Smith & Wesson Model 15 with combat grips at his side.]]
[[Image:RedDawnS&WMod19 02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Tanner's Model 15 is confiscated by Erica ([[Lea Thompson]]).]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRGD-33a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Later, during the liberation raid on the re-education camp, Col. Tanner again has the Smith & Wesson Model 15 in a shoulder holster.]]

==M1911A1==
An [[M1911A1]] pistol is first seen in the "cold dead hands" of an American who resisted the Soviet invasion. The pistol is pulled from the hand of the man and inspected by a Soviet Paratrooper who stuffs it behind his webbing belt. The M1911A1 seen in this scene is a commercial blued version. A parkerized M1911A1 is also used by Colonel Andrew Tanner during the final snow battle.
[[Image:ColtMkIVSeries70.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Colt 1911 Series 70 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:RedDawnM1911A1DeadPrea.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|In the leadup to seeing the first M1911A1, this iconic bumper sticker is seen - this particular saying was popular during the 1970s and 1980s and indicated most American gun owners' disdain for draconian gun control.]]
[[Image:RedDawnM1911A1DeadA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|In one of the most famous (and morbid) twists on a pop culture phrase, a Soviet paratrooper prepares to take a blued commercial M1911A1 from the dead hands of a Colorado resident who decided to fight back.]]

Later in the film, despite having his Smith & Wesson Model 15 revolver, Colonel Tanner ends up with a military M1911A1 pistol, seen during the snow battle. It is assumed that he picked it up somewhere along the way, like the previous Soviet Paratrooper, since none of the occupying forces would be carrying that pistol.
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:RedDawnM1911.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Col. Tanner fires at one of the Soviet tankers in the snow battle with his M1911A1 Pistol. His version appears to be parkerized, thus a military version.]]

==CZ 75==
The leader of the Soviet Paratroopers, in the attack on Calumet High School, motions to his troops with an original [[CZ 75]] handgun, and not one of the later "B" models.
[[Image:Cz75.jpg|thumb|none|350px|"Pre-B" CZ 75 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:RedDawnPistolA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet Paratrooper officer gestures with his CZ 75 pistol during the initial incursion.]]

==Tokarev TT-33 Pistol==
During the initial attack, one of the officers does have an actual [[Tokarev TT-33]] Pistol (several viewings of the clip verified it, even though the actor whips it back and forth). He stands next to another paratrooper firing an RPG - with those bright yellow and blue rockets.
[[File:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
[[Image:RedDawnTT33A.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Soviet Airborne officer tells another paratrooper where to aim his RPG-7. The officer in the back holds up his Tokarev TT-33 pistol. This handgun was well obsolete by this time for frontline troops in the USSR.]]

=Submachine Gun=

==Jatimatic Submachine Gun==
The [[Jatimatic SMG]] was used by Colonel Strelnikov ([[William Smith]]) when he is hunting Matt and Jed at the end of the film. It was supposed to represent the Polish manufactured [[PM-63]] machine pistol as none were available in the country at the time of filming due to the Cold War.
[[Image:JatimaticSMALL.JPG|thumb|400px|none|Jatimatic - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:RedDawnStrelnikovJatimatic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov actually wears the Jatimatic on a custom holster during his speech to the assembled Soviet and Cuban officers. It is a bit strange for the Colonel to wear his submachine gun on his hip when he is making a speech, however, always having the Jatimatic near him at all times, differentiated Col. Strelnikov from all other Soviet officers.]]
[[Image:RedDawnStrelnikovJatimatic 02.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov brandishes the Jatimatic when he hunts for Jed and Matt at the train station.]]
[[Image:RedDawnJatimaticFiresTrainA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov fires his Jatimatic submachine gun at Matt Eckert, who is hiding on a freight train]]
[[Image:RedDawnJatimaticDeathA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Colonel Strelnikov reacts to being shot by Jed Eckert's Single Action Army revolver while firing his Jatimatic submachine gun]]

=Shotguns=

==Winchester Model 1912==
The Shotgun that Robert takes from his father's Gas Station/General Store is initially a [[Winchester Model 1912]] with a field barrel (28"). Robert Morris ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) uses it in the first encounter with Soviet soldiers in the National park.
[[Image:Winchester Model 1912.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 12 Shotgun with Field Barrel - 12 gauge.]]
[[Image:RedDawnRobertShotgunA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) prepares to fire his Winchester Model 12 field shotgun.]]

== Remington 870 Wingmaster ==
In a continuity break, the Winchester Model 1912 previously seen morphs into a [[Remington 870 Shotgun|Remington 870 Wingmaster]]. The Remington 870 Wingmaster is first seen when Robert is sawing down the long barrel to make a short barreled shotgun. The cut down 870 is used pretty much exclusively by Robert for the rest of the film.
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg |thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 Gauge]]‎
[[Image:RedDawn870.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert cuts down the barrel of his Remington 870 Wingmaster. ''Legal note: Viewers have often pondered as to the legality of actually sawing off a shotgun barrel for the film. Since the actual Remington 870 firing gun from the armorers '''was already a short barreled shotgun''', installing a long barrel on it and then cutting it down (while being filmed by the cameras) is not an illegal act, since the gun is not being converted into a something that it is not already.'']]
[[Image:RedDawnAKM&870.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert fires his short 870 while alongside Matt with his AKM.]]

=Rifles & Carbines=

== Maadi ARM ==
According to Long Mountain Outfitters [http://www.longmountain.com/just-for-fun/movie-guns/RedDawn/], the [[AK-47#AKM|AKM]] rifles used in the movie were actually Egyptian Maadi MISR '''(imported into the US as the ARM)''' semi-auto rifles, some of the first semi-automatic Kalashnikov-type rifles ever imported into the United States (besides the Clayco AKM copies). 53 such rifles were used in the movie, 32 of which were converted to full-auto by Class 3 manufacturer Pearl Manufacturing specially for the film. These guns were later used in numerous other movies. These weapons are not to be confused with the post-1989 imported firearms called "MISR" which were modified to comply with the federal import ban.
[[Image:RD-Maadi.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Maadi ARM (AKM) as used in ''Red Dawn'' (image from Long Mountain Outfitters) - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|AKM - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:RedDawnWOLVERINES.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aardvark ([[Doug Toby]]) utters the now-classic line "Wolverines!" while holding a Maadi ARM rifle converted to full auto fire.]]
[[Image:RedDawnAKM.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jed ([[Patrick Swayze]]) delivers some hot lead to a Russian tanker via an AKM.]]
[[Image:RedD84 107.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Daryl Bates ([[Darren Dalton]]) opens fire with the AKM.]]
[[Image:RedD84 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Danny ([[Brad Savage]]) holds the AKM while asking what a "flank" is.]]

==Fake AKS-74==
Fake [[AK-74#AKS-74|AKS-74]]s are used by Soviet paratroopers in the first attack on the school and Soviet Spetsnaz during the battle in the snow. They are actually Maadi ARMs that were very cleverly mocked up with bakelite plastic magazines, skeleton stocks, and custom-made muzzle brakes that resemble that of the [[AK-74]].
[[Image:aks74.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AKS-74 - 5.45x39mm]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeAK74Snow2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Spetnaz Snow troopers advance with faked AK-74 rifles made from Maadi ARMs]]
[[Image:RedDawnAK74 03A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Several angles of the mocked up AK-74 with the custom Muzzle Brake and the non-folding Skeletal stock. These rifles also use orange bakelite 7.62x39mm magazines. As a contrast, the standard AKMs in the film used metal magazines]]

==FN FAL==
Cuban and Nicaraguan soldiers can be seen carrying [[FN FAL]] rifles as their main weapons.
[[Image:FN FAL 50 00.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN FAL 50.00 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:RedDawnFNFAL.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A quick but clear shot of the FAL rifle being brandished by the Cuban / Nicaraguan troops during an ambush. Most of the time the soldiers held the rifles close to their bodies, making a clear view difficult]]

==Ruger Mini 14 GB==
A [[Ruger Mini-14]] GB is briefly seen being handed out to freed prisoners at the re-education camp, and later seen obviously by an escaping 'political prisoner' during the night raid.
[[Image:RugerAC556.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Ruger AC556 Carbine - 5.56x45mm. Full auto version of Ruger Mini 14 GB.]]
[[Image:RedDawnRugerGBa.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Unidentified man with a Ruger Mini 14 GB runs out the gate]]

==M16A1 Rifle==
A few [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1 rifles]] can be briefly seen being handed out to freed prisoners at the re-education camp, and later seen by another running 'political prisoner' during the night raid.
[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:RedDawnM16A1A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Unidentified man with an M16A1 runs out the gate]]

==Marlin Model 336C==
The [[Marlin Model 336|Marlin Model 336C]] lever action rifle was picked up from the store just after the invasion. Arturo "Aardvark" Mondragon ([[Doug Toby]]) fires a single shot from the back of a pickup truck at Russian troops, after an American UH-1 helicopter attacks the Soviets on the ground using rockets. He also uses it in some of the ambushes later in the film.
[[Image:MarlinModel336C.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Marlin Model 336C - .30-30 Winchester]]
[[Image:RedDawnMarlin336CFireA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Arturo "Aardvark" Mondragon fires the Marlin Model 336C from the pickup truck.]]
[[Image:RedDawnMod1894 02.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|500px|Aardvark fires the Marlin Model 336C during an ambush.]]

==Ruger Model 77 ==
Jed ([[Patrick Swayze]]) picks up a [[Ruger Model 77] Ultralight bolt action rifle from Mr. Morris' store at the beginning of the film. He uses it as a sniper rifle during some of the ambushes.
[[Image:Ruger_77_II_Hawkeye_Ultra_Light_R_fac.jpg|thumb|none|501px|Ruger 77 Mk II Ultra Light]]
[[Image:RedDawnHuntingRifleA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Robert Morris ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) borrows Jed Eckert's rifle to hunt deer, while Matt Eckert carries the Marlin Model 336C.]]
[[Image:RedDawnMod70.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Jed surveys the desolate battlefield with his rifle.]]
[[Image:RedDawnSavageHorseback.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Jed says goodbye to Mr. & Mrs. Mason, the grandparents of Toni and Erica Mason, while holding his rifle on horseback.]]
[[Image:RedDawnMod70 02.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|Jed on an ambush with his rifle. Note the shape of the bolt handle and the bolt shroud projecting from behind it, features the Savage 110 does not have. A Savage 110 would also have a bolt-release catch forward of the bolt handle on the receiver. Note also the Ruger 77 scope mounts integral to the receiver, the slightly dog-leg Ruger bolt handle, and the short, light barrel and stock with forend tip that are distinctive features of the Ruger 77 Ultra Light Rifle.]]

==Remington Model 572 Fieldmaster==
Seen in the gun rack above Jed's Savage 110 bolt action rifle is a [[Remington Model 572 Fieldmaster]] pump action rifle. The 572 is a pump action 22 that will shoot 22 shorts, 22 long, or 22 long rifle cartridges. Ammunition is supplied by a tubular magazine under the barrel which holds 15-20 rounds depending on the caliber used. This ability to use all three cartridges is a major difference with other pump action 22s which use only the long rifle cartridge. The Remington 572 is a popular plinker and small game rifle which would be ideal as a survival weapon although it did not see additional use in the movie.
[[Image:Remington-572-right.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington Model 572 Fieldmaster - .22 Short / .22 L / .22 LR]]
[[Image:Remington-572-left.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Remington Model 572 Fieldmaster - .22 Short / .22 L / .22 LR]]
[[Image:RedDawnGunRack01A.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px]]
[[Image:RedDawnGunRak07a.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

=Machine Guns=
==Valmet M78==
The [[Valmet M78]] LMG stands in for the Soviet [[RPK light machine gun|RPK]] since none were available in the US when this movie was filmed. The M78 LMG was used by Russian Paratroopers in the beginning of the movie and, and later by the Wolverines, most notably by Toni Mason ([[Jennifer Grey]]) and Jed ([[Patrick Swayze]]). The LMG is seen fitted with a 30-round "curved" magazine as well as a drum magazine.
[[Image:Valmet_M78_LMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Valmet M78 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:RedD84 03.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|The Soviet paratrooper fires the Valmet M78 (used as a substitute for the more accurate Russian [[RPK]]).]]
[[Image:RedDawnValmetM78 02.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|Soviet paratrooper fires the Valmet M78 LMG on the students during the initial attack on the high school.]]
[[Image:RedDawnValmetJenGrey.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Toni Mason ([[Jennifer Grey]]) fires her Valmet M78 LMG during an ambush.]]
[[Image:RedDawnvalmet02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A Valmet M78 LMG can be seen on a table along with the bright yellow RPG rockets with bright blue tubes.]]
[[Image:RedDawnM78DrumA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Jed ([[Patrick Swayze]]) holds a Valmet M78 (now fitted with a drum magazine) while sitting in the snow.]]
[[Image:RedDawnValmetM78 04.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Jed takes up the Valmet M78 upon the hearing of helicopter blades.]]

==Fake DShK Heavy Machine Gun==
At the time of filming, there were no authentic [[DShK heavy machine gun|DShK heavy machine guns]] available for use in movies, so the armorers mocked-up DShKs from [[M60 machine gun#M60D Machine Gun|M60D machine gun]]s. Apparently the size difference between a 7.62mm gun and a .50 cal gun wasn't enough to distract people during the movie. The DShK mockup is seen being fired throughout the film by Erica ([[Lea Thompson]]). These particular mockups would be used in several 1980's television series including ''[[Magnum P.I.]]'', ''[[MacGyver]]'', and ''[[Airwolf]]''.
[[Image:M60d.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M60D machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|350px|An authentic DShk machine gun]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDshsTankGun01A.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|This is the first scene where the DShK Heavy machine guns are featured, mocked up out of M60D machine guns is when one is mounted on a faked T-72 Tank. What is confusing is that there is an Airborne officer 'commanding' a Main battle tank, which would not be the case. Blue was the color of shoulder boards and collar tabs for Airborne soldiers, Black was the color for Armored Units.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDshsTankGun02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A better angle of the Fake DShK where we can see the M60 origins. The Airborne officer with the blue beret and goggles is [[Fred Rexer]], the former Green Beret (and personal friend of Director John Milius), who trained all of the young actors playing the Wolverines in guerilla warfare.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDsHkTankerA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When American prisoners are executed, including Jed and Matt's father, Tom Eckert ([[Harry Dean Stanton]]), we see Soviet Tankers firing their fake DShKs into the line of prisoners.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDSHK-M60.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|500px|In the snow battle, we clearly see the fake DShKs mounted on the fake T-72 tanks that are made from M60Ds]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDSHKHousea.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Erica ([[Lea Thompson]]) first uses a fake DShK during the ambush.]]
[[Image:RedDawnLeaThompsonM60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In the ambush on the Spetnaz troops in the snow, Lea Thompson can clearly be seen firing a mocked up M60D, posing as a DShK.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHindDoorGunA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|One of the fake DShK heavy machine guns is seen mounted as a door gun on the fake Hind helicopter gunships]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeDshsBattleA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|During the final battle we get a good look at just how LONG and slender the faked DShK barrel is, when mounted on the M60D as a platform]]

==Fake Goryunov SGM Machine gun==
Yet another Soviet-era machine gun that was mocked up from the venerable (and available) [[M60 machine gun]] is the [[Goryunov SG-43 Machine Gun|Goryunov SGM machine gun]].
[[Image:M60d.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M60D machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:RedDawnSnowLMGNewA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) fires a Mocked up Goryunov SGM Machine Gun that was built up from an M60. The rate of fire was increased to around 1100 rpm versus the more standard 750 round per minute and the design of the gun was disguised by wrapping it in white cloth.]]
[[Image:RedDawnM60 04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Robert's position during the snow battle has a fake Goryunov, mocked up from yet another M60 Machine Gun. The white wrapping has fallen off, exposing the M60s' pistol grip lower receiver, whereas the SGM has spade grips.]]

==Browning M2HB Heavy Machine Gun==
Seen briefly but never used is a knocked out [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB heavy machine gun]], mounted on a destroyed M42 "Duster" anti-aircraft vehicle.
[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]]
[[Image:RedDawnTankGun03a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Matt, Jed and Robert run past a destroyed M42 Duster with a Browning M2HB Heavy Machine gun, lying cockeyed off of it's mount, presumably inoperable, or else the Russians would not have left it out in the open]]
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==GE M134 Minigun==
An abandoned [[GE M134 Minigun]], possibly from a crashed vehicle/chopper can be seen on the abandoned battlefield. It is noteworthy that there seem to be many 'abandoned' weapons, from .50 cal machine guns to .30 cal machine guns, however, it must be assumed that these are damaged and inoperable, or else the Soviets would never just leave them for anyone to pick up.
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|300px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:RedDawnTankGun2a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Visible to the right, on the ground is the GE M134 Minigun and the articulated belt feeding tray.]]
[[Image:RedDawnMinigunWeb.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Just to the left of Matt Eckert is an abandoned GE M134 Minigun]]

=Grenades=

==Fake RGD-5 Hand Grenades==
In the film we see numerous fake Soviet [[RGD-5 hand grenade]]s, however, the paint scheme is off and the scale is too large.
[[Image:Rdg5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|RGD-5 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRGD5Roofa.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Robert drops "RGD-5" mocked up grenades during one of the ambushes, off of the roof onto the Cuban & Soviet Soldiers.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRGDGrenadeA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Toni Mason ([[Jennifer Grey]]) has an RGD-5 grenade placed as a boobytrap.]]

==Fake RGD-33 Stick Grenade==
Colonel Tanner uses a stick grenade to destroy one of the YAK-36 VTOL fighters parked near the re-education camp. Though it is cool, it seems strange that the Soviet Navy would have VTOL fighters parked so close to an internment camp, unless they were using the Americans as human shields against long range missile strikes or aerial bombardment. The stick grenade is a mockup, however it could be either a fake of the [[RGD-33 stick grenade]] or the [[RKG-3 anti-tank grenade]].
[[Image:Rgd-33russianfrag mp.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RGD-33 High-Explosive Fragmentation stick grenade]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRGD-33a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Col. Tanner shows a stick grenade to a YAK-36 pilot moments before tossing it in the intake]]

=Heavy Weapons/Other=

== Fake RPG-7 ==
[[RPG-7]]s are used by Soviet and Communist Bloc soldiers, and later Matt ([[Charlie Sheen]]). The weapon itself is a fabricated prop, utilizing a vintage 1950s era RPG-2 as a base. A flared rear blast cone and a second 'fake' pistol grip was added as well as a fake PGO-7 scope that was fabricated out of plastic (it's a bit too large and wrongly shaped for the real PGO-7 scope). The rocket warhead is a plastic and rubber fabrication and not an RPG-2 rocket head. The fuse tip itself is the cap from a Crest toothpaste tube!
[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]
[[Image:RedD84 122.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|During the initial attack, a Soviet paratrooper prepares to use the RPG-7. The weapon itself is a fabricated prop, utilizing a vintage 1950s era RPG-2 as a base.]]
[[Image:RedD84 102.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Danny Bates ([[Brad Savage]]) fires the RPG mockup left-handed.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPG7 02.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Matt ([[Charlie Sheen]]) aims his plastic and rubber mockup of an RPG-7 (though no RPG at the time had a bright yellow warhead with a Bright light blue rocket tube.)]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPG7 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the rubber rocket head of the fake RPG-7. The fuse tip itself is the cap from a Crest toothpaste tube!]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPGRobertA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Later in the film, the rocket heads are less bright yellow, now a more mustard color. Robert Morris ([[C. Thomas Howell]]) aims his RPG-7 at a Hind helicopter.]]

On another note, the rocket of the fake RPG-7 (like many other films that use rocket launchers) is a foam rubber fake when firing around actors. Prior to the advent of CGI in films, they were fired with real Estes rocket motors and '''guided along wires''' to their targets. Below, a frame of film is seen where the wire can clearly be seen that will guide the foam rubber rocket head to its intended target.
[[Image:RedDawnFakeRPG7Wire.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|A view of the wire that guides the phony rocket head to its target.]]
[[Image:RedD84 178.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|600px|Robert fires the RPG. The warheads were made of foam and were fired with real Estes rocket motors.]]

== Fake SA-7 Grail ==
A [[SA-7 Grail]] mockup (built from metal tubing and plastic) is used by a Cuban soldier to fire at an attacking American UH-1D Helicopter. The mockup of the SA-7 is quite accurate. However, it is a little particular that the soldier firing a heat seeking surface to air missile cannot hit a slow moving UH-1 "Huey" (The post Vietnam "G" model with twin turbines (unless the weapon was fired in completely the wrong direction!).
[[Image:800px-SA-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SA-7 ''Grail'' aka Russian Strela-2 surface to air missile - 70mm]]
[[Image:RedDawnStrela01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuban Soldier readies to fire his mocked up SA-7 "Grail" Surface to Air Missile at attacking American UH1G Helicopters. This is an excellent movie mockup.]]
[[Image:RedDawnSA7Grail.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|SA-7 "Grail" Surface to air missile is fired at night in the downtown suburb of Calumet, CO. (actually a street in the small town of Las Vegas, New Mexico).]]

==Fake UB-32 Rocket Pods (on Fake Hind Gunship)==
Fake 32-round UB-32 rocket pods for the Russian S-5 unguided air-to-ground rocket are seen on the mocked up Hind-A helicopter gunship, along with wing mounted hardpoints with mocked-up twin launch rails for fake AT-2 "Swatter" anti-tank missiles.
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind03a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Fake Rocket pods are mounted on the wings of the Hind gunship.]]

=Gun Platforms=

== Fake Mil Mi-24 "Hind" Gunship ==
The "Mil Mi-24 Hinds" seen in the film are excellent mockups of Hind-As (painted with winter camo) built up from French''' Aerospatiale Pumas''' and were later used again in other movies such as ''[[Rambo: First Blood Part II]]'' and ''[[Rambo III]]''. The version depicted was the earliest incarnation of the Hind, the Model-A with the blunt angular "greenhouse" side-by-side cockpit rather than the later twin in-line "double bubble" canopy. The Hind-A was also seen in the film ''[[Firefox]]'', however those were 1/12th scale radio controlled flying models. For the film ''[[Red Dawn]]'', three Pumas were modified (and all seen on film) and all had a fake Hind-A 'nose' sections built with darked tinted windows that slipped over the front end of the real Puma helicopter. (If you look closely, you can see the real nose of the Puma 'underneath' the Hind nose section through the tinted windows in some shots.) However, this modification limited pilot vision and also restricted motion - quick turns were not possible lest the fake nose front end be ripped off the helicopter. Later incarnations of the same modified Puma helicopter removed the extended Hind-A nose sections, but kept the fake wings and rockets pods (as these were sturdy modifications and didn't adversely affect the aerodynamics of the helicopter.)
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind01a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Two of the three faux "Hind" helicopters chase the Wolverines in the beginning of the assault.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind02a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|One part of the PUMA helicopter that could not be modified was the bulging pods for the rear landing gear/wheels. The real Hinds are smooth sided, with retractable landing gear, to make them more sleek and aerodynamic in attack maneuvers.]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind05a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Seen on the nose is a mockup of the '''single barreled 12.7mm heavy machine gun''' that was standard on the Hind-A helicopter. Only the later models of the helicopter upgraded to 12.7 mm YakB gatling gun (which in turn was later replaced by a twin 30mm autocannon setup on the right side of the forward fuselage).]]
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHind06a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|In real life, use of the Hind-As are a bit anachronistic, since the ubiquitous '''Hind-D''' (the version we see today with the twin tandem nose canopies) replaced all previous Hind gunships in active service beginning in 1974. The Hind-As had design problems which forced their replacement by the Model D and had been replaced in most front line units by 1977.]]
In several shots, we can see the actual nose assembly of the original PUMA helicopter underneath the tinted glass windows of the extended "faux" nose.
[[Image:RedDawnFakeHindUndera.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Visible is the original nose of the Puma Helicopter under the tinted glass. The filmmakers just mounted the fake nose on top of the real helicopter nose.]]

== M42 "Duster" 40mm Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun ==
An M42 "Duster" SPAAG that has been knocked out of action is prominent in the ghost battlefield sequence. Of course what is noticeably missing from the plethora of destroyed vehicles on the battlefield are main battle tanks like M1 Abrams or infantry fighting vehicles. The M42 "Dusters" were built on obsolete M41 Walker Bulldog light tank chassis that were outfitted with twin 40mm AA guns and were used by ground troops in Vietnam, before being retired from regular Army service in 1972. The M42 was then only found as a Corps Level asset in National Guard units until it was fully retired in 1988.
[[Image:RedDawnM42DusterA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Jed, Robert and Matt walk past a knocked out M42 "Duster" - 40mm Main armament with a Browning M2HB mounted on the back.]]

== Fake Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun ==
A Fake Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun was built on an American M8A1 Cargo Tractor chassis by Veluzet Armored Vehicles, out of Newhall, California. This ZSU-23 replica was also used in 1988's ''[[Rambo III]]'' as well as the 1991 [[John Milius]]-directed film ''[[Flight of the Intruder]]''.
[[Image:RedDawnZSUNightAttacka.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The faux Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled AA gun seen in the film [[Red Dawn]] during the night attack. Unlike the film ''[[Flight of the Intruder]]'' (which mounted a real quad 50 comprising Browning M2HBs), this ZSU-23 only has fake mockup AA guns, so it is never seen firing in the movie.]]
[[Image:RedDawnZSUChassisBare.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''Behind the Scenes:''' Inside the Veluzat Tank shop, the M8A1 Cargo Tractor has a steel frame welded into place that will eventually become the Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled AA gun seen in the film [[Red Dawn]].]]
[[Image:RedDawn ZSUparked.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|'''Behind the Scenes:''' The faux Soviet ZSU-23 Self Propelled AA gun seen in the film [[Red Dawn]] is parked as mechanics do some last minute testing.]]

== Fake Soviet T-72 Main Battle Tank ==
The Fake T-72 tanks from the film were built on the chassis of a surplus M8A1 Cargo Tractor, which itself was a stretched version of the M41 Walker Bulldog with four return rollers and six roadwheels per side instead of three return rollers and five roadwheels. These mockups would later be used in 1988's ''[[Rambo III]]''.
[[Image:RedDawnT72SnowCamoA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A beautifully painted Faux T-72 Tank rolls up to the snow battle. The 125mm main gun is an aluminum and fiberglass tube that mounted a black powder charge in front to simulate firing. Note four return rollers in two pairs rather than the five of an M48 Patton or three of an M41 Walker Bulldog.]]
[[Image:RedDawnT72TurretPainted.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|'''Behind the Scenes:''' The fiberglass turret of the faux Soviet T-72 built for and seen in the film [[Red Dawn]] has been painted with a different paint scheme. In all the Fake T-72s impersonated multiple tanks with different paint schemes, most seen is the green urban, the field camo and the winter camo patterns.]]

=Trivia=

== Morris's Market ==
As many viewers remember, there was a large rack of sporting/hunting long guns in Mister Morris's Gas Station/General Store and Mister Morris hands out food, guns and ammunition to the boys and tells them to leave and "don't look back." However, none of the long guns in Mister Morris's gun rack can be identified due to the dark lighting in the shot.
[[Image:RedDawnMorrisMarketA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|A view of the dark gun rack in Mister Morris's Market. It is extremely difficult to identify the weapons in the rack due to the dark shadowy lighting in the scene.]]

== Inaccurate Captioning on the DVD ==
During the planning of the attack on the re-education camp, Col. Tanner mystifies most of the Wolverines with his military jargon. Apparently the jargon is unknown to the people doing the captioning of the DVD as well. He refers to grazing fire at a '''defilade''' (using the verb as a noun to refer to an area which the Soviets have prepared in such a way as to protect the position from ''enfilading'' fire). Erica Mason ([[Lea Thompson]]) responds with "''Devolay''?". The Closed captions on the DVD incorrectly quotes Tanner as saying '''"duffle-A"''' which makes no sense.
[[Image:RedDawn-Duffle-Aa.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Caption of this scene incorrectly quotes Tanner as saying "duffle-A" when in fact he says "Defilade" (which is a real military term).]]

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Talk:Dirty Harry

2012-12-16T02:09:31Z

Sg688:

I've read that the gun actually was a Model 25 in .45 Colt. The substitution for the M29 was lack of availability of a M29 and the easy availability of blank cartridges in .45 Colt (which were probably widely used in Colt Peacemakers in Westerns).
:I heard it was a Model 57 in .41 caliber, but it makes more sense for it to be a Model 25, because .45 Colt blanks were very common thanks to the ridiculous amount of westerns made during that time. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
It can't be a model 25. It looks completely different near the forcing cone and cylinder lock-up as well. Gunmaster45, you heard correctly. It is a model 57 in 41 Magnum. Dead ringer except for calibre and the muzzle size difference will not be noticed between those two calibers on screen.

John Milius supplied the Model 29 for the film then both Ellis Mercantile and Stembridge Gun Rentals supplied them. The ones from Ellis Mercantile and Stembridge Gun Rentals were .44 Magnums but were re-chambered to use 5 in 1 blanks. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== John Milius Model 29 ==
What is known is that after ''[[Magnum Force]]'' was finished Milius was presented with a Model 29 by CLint Eastwood and Warner Brothers. It has a small plaque on the grip. I've seen numerous photos of it and a few years ago it was on display at the NRA's museum in Virgina. Does anyone know if that Model 29 was used in either movie or was it just a gift? --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:27, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

==It was a Model 29(maybe)==
It has also been written that two Model 29's '''''were''''' used in the filming of [[Dirty Harry]]. The Smith & Wesson company historian, Roy Jinks, has stated that the company was approached by Warner Brothers before filming had begun with a request for specimens. Evidently no Model 29's could be found to purchase. The Model 29 was something of a "niche" gun in the fifties and sixties and S&W did not produce large numbers of the 44 magnum revolver.

There had not been a production run for awhile and they had become rather scarce on the market. The factory did have parts on hand and were able to put together two models for the production. However all they had were 6.5 inch barrels so that's what the film went with.

John Milius has stated in the past that when he was doing fine tuning on the script he gave Inspector Callahan a Model 29 with a 4 inch barrel. Which makes sense since since it would be more practical for a cop to carry the 4" version. Of course practical in this case in more a matter of schemantics.

As others have said though it's hard to know what really occurred. The makers of [[Dirty Harry]] had no way of knowing that they were involved with pop culture history and nobody thought to keep accurate records about the props. So we continue to have fun debating all the possible models used by Inspector Callahan.And while your bringing it geel free to identify yourself like I just did. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:59, 16 April 2009

I would also bring to the table that in 1971 gun accuracy was not high priority. Revolvers shooting 123 rounds without ever reloading. Even today 100% gun accuracy isn't achievable. You must remember it's hollywood. However if you start reading printed books and that kind of thing on the topic you will see that it was indeed a model 57. Also saying that "Harry" said it is a 44 magnum doesn't make it so. Just because a character in a movie claims it to be a something definately doesn't make it so. Now on Magnum Force and his later movies I'm sure it was a model 29 but for Dirty Harry (the movie of this page) it definately is a model 57. If you really want to I can go get some book references for you and post them here. However that is going to take some time going through my library but I will. Myth busting when it comes to be guns is what I like. So bring it. [[Potentpoefie]]

Okay. It's supposed to be a Model 29 in the movie.Even if it was actually a Model 57 that was used. And I have also read so called printed books which was where I got the info about Roy Jinks and the Model 29's being used. So once again I'm going to change it.Also I get the impression that almost everyone here is accepting of the fact that it might have been a Model 57, but don't ''really care''. However I would like to see your references.Please post them. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 12:28, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

OK, [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] I don't know if I should thank you are swear at you. I had to go through 17 year's worth of gun magazines. However I knew I read about it before. But I finally found the articles. The thank you part comes in because I took the time and finally organized those 17 year's worth of gun magazine. So without even going to online references here you go.
Man Magnum March 1998 - One-Stop Shot by Keith Dyer
Man Magnum November 1998 - The Movie Guns of Clint Eastwood by Paul Scarlata
Man Magnum July 2006 - 44 Magnum - The First Fifty Years by Keith Dyer
So now this model 29 is turning into a model 57 again and if it doesn't bother you so much then I guess it's fine.
[[Potentpoefie]]

Yeah okay. I'm calling a truce. I'm leaving it to [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] to decide what he wants to do. He's basically the webmaster and it's his site. Peace my brother. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Well no peace to be made. Nobody declared war. Like I said. Thanks. It was an experience going through those magazines. Funny how what is "tactical/practical" has changed over the years. [[Potentpoefie]]

I took the snap below and brightened the image to better see the magnum markings. It looks like 44 Magnum to me. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:22, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:DH-00002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|looks like 44 Magnum to me]]
:[[Image:DH1S&W25-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
:[[Image:DH1S&W25-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:I'm pretty sure that this is a .44 Magnum bore, because I've seen a Model 29 up close and remember it looking just like this. I've never seen a Model 25, but some pictures I've seen online suggest it doesn't look like this.

:My guess is that they used the Model 25 mostly for the firing scenes, the Model 29 whenever the gun wasn't fired. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Rifle as Evidence ==

The reason the rifle was not viable evidence is because it was "fruit of the poisonous tree." Harry had no warrant to search the stadium so evidence pulled from the scene is not admissible in court. this is the reason stated in the movie BUT any halfway decent cop and district attorney would make it a legal search due to it being "fresh pursuit" not to mention the exigent circumstance of said pursuit. moreover scorpio could only get the protection of that statute if he were a legal resident of the stadium and i am pretty sure he wouldn't be recognized as such legally. so in reality it wouldn't happen quite like that, but the entire movie was an exercise of complaint at the systems apparent apathy towards victims rights and total obsession with criminal rights. so the whole point is rendered moot. just felt like sharing.

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I concur. the statement on the picture is just careless. However, the doctor said that the groundskeeper let him live there. That was the easy way they explained he was legally living there. Contract living or not, the implication that his living space is consensual with the owners or caretakers is legally enough to make it a protected area which requires a warranted search. Also, there was no "hot pursuit" or fresh pursuit. they were led to the stadium through a tip. They didn't see him run there and they didn't follow him in. Just my two cents [[Special:Contributions/69.23.137.224|69.23.137.224]] 07:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Your point is quite valid, I only brought it up as it was a topic in my Substantive Law class. The fresh pursuit part isn't so much about actively chasing the suspect into the area, but the small amount of time that has passed in the pursuit, bolstered by the exigent circumstances (which is a trump card). The trouble with the groundskeeper giving permission to live there is that he (in all probability) has no legal standing to grant that permission. Since Scorpio is effectively a squatter and the "search" was more or less the rifle being in plain view during the course of a lawful arrest (if i remember correctly) the point is again moot. But I do agree with you on a few levels, I just merely wanted to point out that the topic in question is more of a legal quagmire than the cut and dry "you were bad, Harry" that the movie states or the cut and dry "they have the rifle there just use it as evidence" that others wish were the case. Just adding a few more cents, I think I'm up to a nickel now. =P

== Harry and the 4th Amendment ==

I can't speak for 1971 but in 2009 if I was in a similar situation a couple phone calls and I would have a very quick answer from the on-call prosecutor. Also I would call my superior and make sure that I surrounded the stadium with officers and locked it down. I've gotten search warrants before and a couple times it only took about 90 minutes. Plus there would be a very good chance that the PA (prosecutor) would give you the green light to enter based on the exigent circumstances.

Also I imagine that you could contact the owner or owners and get permission to search fairly quickly. Especially considering the circumstances. Most people are essentially good and want to help the police. At least in the U.S.A. But if they showed that the system was somewhat flexible and that other folks also wanted to save the girl than Harry would lose his Lone Wolf status. That would have changed the whole movie and fun would that be?

I own all the Dirty Harry movies and I'm a fan of Clint Eastwood, but they are works of fiction and they play fast and loose with the law in order to make a political/social point. Your observations are dead on. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 14:34, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
::You said it though when you said, '''you can't speak for 1971'''. It was a different time. You can't compare today with 1971. Heck, I used to ride my motorcycle with a Springfield 03 rifle slung on my back (not in a case) down the 101 freeway on the way to a target shoot and nobody cared. This was back in the 1970s IN California (!?) Times surely have changed. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:18, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I think the politics of the film was in response to a lot of the changes brought about by the Warren court. I'm sure many people may have resented that these rulings swung in favor of the accused at the cost of the police. (Gideon, Miranda, Mapp, Escobedo, etc) But since then, with more conservative courts, some of that has been rolled back or relaxed, like Miranda. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

In the spring of 1981 I was thirteen and in 7th grade. Near the end of the school year my P.E. teacher let us have a "Fun Day" which included many activities to include archery. One of my friends brought his Barnett Crossbow and a quiver full of bolts onto the bus and walked with it into our school. The only thing he had to do was leave it with the P.E. teacher until classtime. But at the end of the day he rode the bus home with the crossbow and bolts and nobody even went "eek". That was just 29 years ago. Times do change don't they? --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

When I would walk to school in My Homestate of North Carolina, I would see men huntin' (My house was on a dirt road) in the open where everybody could see them and Me and My Friends just thought it was normal, but when I moved out of the country and into the city, with My Grandpa's old Springfield M1903A3 Rifle slung over My shoulder and a 1911A1 pistol tucked into the waist of my pants , driving an old 1950's pickup truck with half the paint worn off. Now imagine driving to New York in 1979 wearing the old uniform your father wore during the Korean War with a pair suspenders and a hand-me-down bandana soaked in blood and sweet. I saw things I didn't even think existed. That was the strangest moment in My Life. Now everbody used to seeing that stuff. The small town I lived near has been abandoned and torn down to make place for a tourist trap and mini mall. I searched for the America I grew up in and could not find it. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 03:11, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

== .44 Magnum/.41 Magnum ==
From what I remember reading in gun mags of the time, when they contacted Smith & Wesson a week before production was due to start no M29's where being produced at that time. They where in the middle of a run of M57 .41 Magnums, which are identical appart from the differance in Calibur. They sent them a pair of these with an advisory note not to film the muzzle until some .44's could be sourced to replace them.

This means that i was fooled, i always believed that it was a Model 29, god this isn't a good week for me.--[[User:Dillinger|Dillinger]] 17:26, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== M57 vs. M29 ==

It's a moot point what the real model was. In the movie it's identified as a S&W 44 magnum which means it's a Model 29. So I'm going to take the liberty of changing it ''back'' to being identified as a Model 29, but with all the info still included. Anyway the company historian has stated that the production company did use a couple Model 29's that the factory put together from spare parts. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:56, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== Arisaka paratrooper rifle ==

I understand that sporterising a rare firearm negates its value as a collector's item, but is it possible that this particular Arisaka could remain valuable due to its appearance in this film?

That exact specimen would probably get a large amount of money at auction as long as there was provenance. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 19:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

::Only as a movie memorabilia, not as a collector gun. There is a difference. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:05, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

:::I have to ask: what happens to movie prop guns when they're worn out? (I presume they get worn out.) Are they destroyed? Are they still considered firearms and regulated as such? Can they be converted back into regular firearms? Are they sold as collector's items? I'm sure the hero guns will go to some museum or something, but what of the rest? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 21:42, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
::::They are usually sold off to other prop houses/armories or gun collectors. Many of Stembridge's guns were sold to collectors in other states (back in 1999) when the Anti gun Atty General Bill Lockyer (D) was dead set on trying to nail Stembridge. The 1990s were a DARK TIME for gun rights. Dan Shea brokered a lot of the Title II sales to other buyers outside of California. You are right about the pendulum swinging back, but a lot of damage has been done and I don't see how many of the laws which really hurt armorers / gun owners can be turned back at the state level. We'll see. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:08, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, I was curious about the appearance of the takedown Arisaka in film, as it seems to have been a rather rare specimen compared to the scores of Type 38/Type 99 rifles brought back from the Second World War and the Korean War. Still, it appeared from time to time in movies, I remember Raymond Shaw (Lawrence Harvey) used one in The Manchurian Candidate.

== Scorpio Killer ==

I think the scorpio killer was supposed to be potrayed as a nazi or a racial socialist. He uses two of the most infamous nazi firearms in film, he had blonde hair and blue eyes, and finally he had a racial slur of african americans in his first death note.

== Arisaka suppressor ==

What type of suppressor is the suppressor used on the Arisaka? I can't remember any suppressors being made for the Arisaka before WWII, or indeed if it was able to use any sort of suppressor. Also, it's called a 'paratrooper' rifle, were they ever actually used by Japanese paratroopers? Were there any Japanese paratroopers during WWII?

Actually in WWII the Japanese had two separate paratrooper forces. Both the ''Special Naval Landing Forces'' (Marines) and the ''Imperial Army Air Force'' developed their own paratroopers. Although like the German ''Fallschirmjäger'' they only jumped a few times early in the war and spent the rest of it fighting as infantry. As for the Type 2 Paratroop Rifle, it wasn't designed for a suppressor, so it would have to custom fitted. [[User:Pravda616|Pravda616]] 15:53 28/12/11

== 6 shots or 5? ==
In the orginal theatrical release, "Harry" fired 5 shots, not 6. The recent DVD added a sixth to the soundtrack. He fired 5 rounds single action and then cocked on the sixth. After not firing, he lowered the hammer, then cocked again which rotated the cylinder to a previously fired chamber, which enabled him to click on that empty chamber. The public is so dense that even Milius has given up arguing the point. --[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] ([[User talk:Sg688|talk]]) 21:09, 15 December 2012 (EST)

Talk:Colors

2012-12-16T01:53:15Z

Sg688: /* Handguns of the L.A.P.D. */

:Just out of curiousity, does anyone know if the S&W Model 14 was ever issued to the LAPD? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 17:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, I just watched "Adam-12" (which was an extremely accurate portrayal of the LAPD), and I think they used Model 14s too, so it probably was (unless someone else begs to differ). -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 19:51, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::The LAPD used the 6" model 14 for years. In more recent years, the more frequently carried revolver was the 4" S&W model 15, although several other models were authorized (S&W models 10, 64, 67, 68 -a .38 spl version of the model 66-, etc.).

: I have been trying to get this movie for 3 months, but the people at netflix just won't send it to me-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 18:57, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I've seen copies for sale at Walmart for under $10.00. So if you went that route and weren't impressed you could alwasy turn around and sell it to Hastings or maybe a yard sale. Just an idea. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:08, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

:it seems odd that a seasoned veteran like Hodges would be using a Beretta 92 instead of the gun he had been using for the better part of his law inforcement career-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 01:42, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
::Agreed, especially since a rookie like McGavin is using a revolver. McGavin should be using a Beretta and Hodges should be using the Smith & Wesson. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 19:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:Or just give them BOTH S&W's-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 00:15, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
::He wasn't using a Beretta 92, he was using a Beretta 92F. They're different models dammit! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:It's part of the Beretta 92 pistol series though, so unless I'm trying to be real specific, I will just call any pistol in this series a Beretta 92-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:10, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

::If you were to do that while making a page, however, it would be wrong, and you would be corrected. The 92 and 92F are two different guns, and it only takes one more keystroke to differentiate them, anyway.

::Anyway, I do agree that it seems weird that Hodges and not McGavin uses the Beretta. Normally, in these movies, I would expect the veteran to be carrying the older gun and the young hotshot to have the latest, greatest pistol money can buy (and in the late-80s, the Beretta 92F was pretty much '''that''' gun). Why that wasn't the case here is beyond me. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
:Maybe he's a revolver guy like me-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 02:03, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Is this movie good? and Should I buy this movie?.--[[User:Dillinger|Dillinger]] 20:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

It's okay. Seemed really groundbreaking in 1988, but 22 years later (and ''all'' those gangbanger movies that followed) it seems a little dated and even over the top. However I like it becasue it's one of the few movies to try to show the cops prespective in the gang situation in L.A. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:30, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

As far as the Beretta discussion goes, in my mind it kind of made sense that Duvall's character had the 92 rather than Penn by virtue of the fact that they would have issued, at least in my opinion, a "new" weapon to the more senior officers rather than the rookie. And, again, wasn't this the time that the semi-autos were being brought into general service to most police departments? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 02:21, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

== Handguns of the L.A.P.D. ==

In the April 2008 issue of ''Guns&Ammo'' there is an article by Robert Kolesar about the history of the guns of the L.A.P.D. The article is called ''Guns of the LAPD''. Kolesar is currently on active duty with the L.A.P.D. He states that in 1987 both the Beretta 92 and the 9mm S&W autos were authorized for carry. Officers could purchase them with their own money and had to attend a three day semi-auto transition course at the L.A.P.D. police academy.Kolesar was one of the instructors on the transition team for two years.

At one time LAPD officers were issued the S&W Model 14 with the 6" barrel. If I read it correctly the model was double action only and in 38 special. Kolesar refers to it as "Neutered". The six inch Model 14 was very common up until the mid-70's when the 4" S&W Model 15 began to be issued. Many of the six inch Model 14 barrels were cut down to 4" by department armorers and re-issued.

But I believe that those officers who wanted to carry the longer barreled model were still authorized to do so. Another model that was popular was the short lived S&W Model 68 with six inch barrel. The Model 68 is the Model 66 only with the 38 special cylinder instead of the .357 magnum cylinder and stamped 38 special on the barrel instead of .357 magnum. The Model 68 was requested by the California Highway PAtrol and later was also sold to the L.A.P.D. Whne the C.H.P. requested the Model 68 the officers were not allowed to carry .357 magnum revolvers. Guess the C.H.P. was a victim of the political think of the time. The Model 68 was never cataloged by the company and only made from 1977 - 1988. a little over 6,000 were made. They are becoming collector items now.

In the early 1980's the L.A.P.D. began issuing the Model 67 with 4" barrel. The Model 67 is the stainless steel version of the Model 15.

According to Kolesar the L.A.P.D. has always allowed it's officers an extraordinary amount of leeway when it comes to handguns. Back in the revolver days officers could purchase and carry Rugers and Colts for duty though S&W was king. I remember seeing a photo of a uniformed officer at the North Hollywood bank robbery in 97. He was equipped with the S&W Model 68 with a 6" barrel.There are even a few old-timers still carring full sized revolvers on their duty-belts.

So it isn't ''totally'' implausible (when ''Colors'' was filmed in the spring of 1987) that [[Sean Penn|Sean Penn's]] character would have a Model 14 and [[Robert Duvall]] would be equipped with a Beretta. Sure it takes a little stretch of the imagination, but it could have still been the case back in 87. Albeit barely. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:40, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

It's symbolism. Robert Duvall's character has 'new' ideas, so carries a new style pistol. Sean Penn has 'old' ideas, so carries the old style revolver.--[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] ([[User talk:Sg688|talk]]) 15:41, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Red Dawn (1984)

2012-12-16T01:50:14Z

Sg688: /* Jed's rifle */

==Morris's Market Section==

Hi, after rediscovering this old gem of Swayze's (rest in peace, old sport), I thought the Morris's Market section could be expanded just a tad. While the lighting is indeed too dark to make out the guns on the rack in Morris's Market, the actor playing Robert Morris's father does in fact talk about the calibers of the guns he's handing out. I can just make out something along the lines of ".30-08, .38 Special, get that 12-Gauge!" and there is also a nice shot when one of the actors is stuffing box after box of ammunition into a bigger cardboard box. I don't have the DVD right now, but that particular shot would make for a nice screenshot to add to this entry--are those ammunition boxes from real-life companies in business at the time the movie was made? The only company name I can recognize is "Remington," though the boxes do in fact display their calibers, such as .22 LR, .38 Special, and a few are also marked .308 as well.

Also, Robert's father hands the group two shotguns just before they leave the shop--which of those ends up being Robert Morris's primary weapon through the rest of the film? I'd appreciate it if anyone could come up with the necessary screenshots and appropriate additions to this old classic's page. Can't wait to see if they pull the same "They can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead fingers" joke in the remake of this film. Great work setting up and maintaining this wiki, guys!

I was going to mention the fact of Mr. Morris (Roy Jensen) mentioning calibers during the Morris Market scenes. He does call out ".38 Special, .308" as he's pushing boxes across the counter, when he tells the boys not load up on "cookies, candy and crap", just dry and canned goods, so I'm presuming that .308 Winchester is the caliber of Jed's Savage 110. Matt is seen opening the cylinder of a DA revolver he carries in the scenes just before the raid on the train station at the end of the movie, and then closing the cylinder (and, impressively, he closes the cylinder with his hand rather than the "dramatic" flicking it closed that is hard on the lockwork and returns the revolver to his holster). Presumably this then is a .38 Special caliber revolver, or a .357 Magnum loaded with .38 Special.

==Nice Work==
Great revamp MPM, the page looks much more completed now. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Protected from anonymous edits==
I protected it from the same anonymous user who keeps making changes when I'm in the middle of a revamp, and his edits are a bit clumsy (like not bothering to realign images of guns from RIGHT to NONE, and sometimes putting the WRONG image in the gun section). Also there is a method to my madness, I am gearing up to put shots of Red Dawn mockup guns in place, so I don't want anonymous users endless making changes that I'm going to have to get rid of during the next revamp of the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If you are done with your revamp could you please unprotect the page so I can add more pictures,please. [[BOB]]
:You are a new user, you have no track record, we have no idea what you are going to put on this page, and it has been protected because of inane edits by anonymous and new users. If possible, can you propose what changes you want on the talk page? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:01, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

I have some pictures for the AKM and AKS-74.[[User:AK-74Fan]]
:And you missed a gun, MPM. One Cuban army officer uses an Makarov PM in the last battle. The one who gets hit by the RPG backblast.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:11, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
:: I don't think that was a Makarov. If I remember it looked closer to a PPK or SIG P230. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
I've got a picture of that, along with 13 or 14 others I could add if the page were unprotected.[[User:AK-74Fan]] 11, October 2009 11:09 AM
::That is why the page is protected. To keep people from adding too many images against the wishes of the people who spent a great deal of time and effort to create the page. You may have seen pages with tons and tons of screencaps. Those are not mine and I have in the past argued strongly against it. But other people took the time to create those pages, so I won't edit them for the sake of length. IMFDB is starting to look like many states' legislative codes, everything is added and nothing is deleted. to the OP, build some awesome looking pages and I'll consider it. But we can no longer be so lenient on everyone, especially since so many new members do crap screencaps, or lame pages, or wrong info or just have no sense when it comes to making a decent looking page. Sorry that the sins of others affect everyone, but you will understand. On the pistol, Thanks for the heads up Oliviera. I will check it out. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:40, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

==Funny==
Odd isn't it, Modern Warfare 2 also features Russian paratroopers taking over American cities. so I guess Red Dawn has finally made a name for itself, spawning a large plot point for one of the finest video games of all time. nice work Swayze. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
:You mean Call of Grenades: Action Movie Warfare 2? Yeah, that's a whole sale ripoff, dude. Did you not notice the "WOLVERINES" tag at the beginning of the level or something? Fun drinking game, take a drink every time they rip off a movie, reference Generation Kill, or say OSCAR MIKE, two drinks if it's an inappropriate use.-protoAuthor 03:45, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
:::This is a TRULY great post... lol. Seems like every time I play MW2 or CoD4 I see another segment where they've ripped off Black Hawk Down, Generation Kill, or something similar. It's really tiresome after a while; there's plenty of original content to be had with this genre, why don't they just leave the war movies alone? Bah. [[Special:Contributions/70.197.109.68|70.197.109.68]] 05:56, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
::Ahem, you're assuming the players are OLD enough to drink. We don't want to encourage underage drinking. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:32, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
:Dude, you would be dead from alchohol poisoning 20 minutes into the game-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:52, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
::If people took a drink with all that, there would be a shit load of dead twelve year olds all across the world. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
I'm more inclined to think of the "Wolverines!" level as an homage rather than a rip off, because aside from the parachuting Russians falling on suburban America, it had little if anything at all else in common with the events of Red Dawn (can any of the locales in Red Dawn even be called "suburban"?). Now, if you were playing as high-school students with AKs and your objective was to flee into the mountains, then yes, I'd consider it a rip off. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 15:22, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I am also an editor on serveral video game wikias and i just can't stand when some asshole fucks up every weapons page on the site because they think they know what guns just because they play this stupid game. every time a bomb goes off in this game, American youth gets more assholish. Damn you Modern Warfare 2! - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 02:19, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

==Remake==
I am quite curious what the weapons load out will be for the remake they are shooting right now especially given the fact that eastern bloc weapons are now more readily available (including armour) than they were in the 1980's. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:42, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Go to the forum, we got a whole thread about it. And it's the Chinese instead of the Russians and they are using AK-101s or something like that. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:28, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, some of the pictures at the forum do show pics of soldiers with Russian Federation shoulder patches. I still wish they could have he Chinese using [[Norinco QB rifle series|Norinco QB]]-series weapons instead of inaccurate [[AK-47|Kalashnikov]]-series weapons. As far as armor, I don't see why they couldn't mock up a T72 to resemble the Chinese Type 99 or Russian T90 since they're both based on the T72 platform. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:Actually when I mentioned armour I referred to the fact that all the "Soviet" armour in the original were mockups built on old M48 Patton tank chasis (I believe). I remember a story I read that the replica T72 in the original was so authentic that some CIA agents allegedly questioned the movie makers as to where it came from.--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 01:13, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, the CIA guys were questioning the crew about the gunships from the canyon scene. Anyway, http://www.reddawn2010.com/ is an unofficial fansite devoted to the remake. It's got lots of videos and pics of the production so far and they update at least once a week; there's plenty of opportunity to snuff out the equipment there.--[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 12:29, 2 December 2009

::Who's making the remake and where? I ask because that M1 Abrams doesn't look like an Abrams to me. 6 roadwheels, not 7, and the front of the hull...looks like an old british army cheiftain to me (which are readily avaliable since they were removed from active and then reserve service in '98 and '96 respectivily)

:Sorry to nitpick here but if you look at this article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn it mentions the T-72 specifically. No mention of the Hinds. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 01:55, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

A remake? Remakes should never be done of classic movies (The Getaway, War of the Worlds, The Time Machine, Red River, The Alamo, King Kong just for starters) and Red Dawn is a classic. Looking at that website, I'm guessing this remake is going to suck. The Chinese invade Michigan huh? Well, filming in Detroit shouldn't even require building any sets, most of it looks like a war zone anyway.

==Aardvark==
As far as I recall Arturo "Aardvark" Mondragon is addressed by name one other time in the movie. When they boys are escaping town on the way to Morris' Market they pass by Aardvark's wounded father who frantically yells "Arturo" as his son speeds away to safety. After that his name is not mentioned again until his death on the T-72. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 02:06, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::His father (played by Pepe Serna of [[The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension ]] and [[Silverado]] fame, yells the name and the audience has to figure out that it's Aardvark who is yelling "papa!" from the back of the truck. it's not clear from the FILM that Arturo and Aardvark are the same character. We only know it here, because it's listed here (and on Partisan Rock) which is seen only fleetingly. I saw it in the movie theatre three times. It still wasn't clear then. Then Lea Thompson yells "Aardvark!" when he dies. Again, confusing the audience, since this is the first time he is referred to by that name. Overall it was poor filmmaking/editing to make a major character so confusing. Also Darryl was another character whose identity had to be parsed by the audience over multiple viewings. And I was always getting Darryl confused with Danny (Brad Savage). The filmmakers had a bunch of young (and then pretty much unknown actors) all of whom were brunettes (with the possible exception of Jennifer Grey) and (with the exception of Matt and Jed) were poorly introduced to the audience. We didn't know WHO the hell these kids were by the end of the film, other than cannon fodder for Russian bullets. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

ZOMFG, I just realized that they have pretty much omitted Aardvark from the remake. No one has been announced as 'cast' for the role. LOL his character was totally unnecessary, kinda like Darryl.
:I wouldn't say that Darryl was unnecessary. He and his father represented collaborators, or at least people who are willing to put in the least effort to maintain some semblance of the status quo. His execution demonstrated how Jed and Robert had been hardened by the conflict and now saw the world in black and white. (The original script was more Lord of the Flies-esque.)--[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 20:45, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== Nicaraguan Captain? ==
Are we sure the Captain is Nicaraguan? He seemed to work with the Officer that let's Matt and Jed live at the end. I thought he and the captain were Cuban.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:34, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
:You know, if you checked the credits you would have answered your own question. That's what the actors's character is called in the final credit roll. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:00, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
*Excuse me, MPM. When I first saw the film on it's initial release my Peruvian friend said that Ron O'Neal had a very convincing Cuban accent and all things I've read written on the film mention his character was Cuban. Is it possible that in pre-production (hence the credits) the character was Nicaraugan but when Mr O'Neal took the role he transformed the role with Mr Milus' permission to a Cuban? To me one of the film's great strengths are his and former Russian linguist William Smith's professional and sympathetic performances in the enemy roles that give the film a lot more depth.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] 22:37, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
::You're excused [[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ;) But I was talking about Judd Omen's character, not Ron O'Neal's. Judd Omen played The Nicaraguan Captain. Ron O'Neal played a Colonel, not a Captain, so it's obvious we were not talking about him. Ron O'Neil played Colonel Ernesto Bella who was indeed Cuban. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:32, 23 April 2012 (CDT)

== A possible edition to the section on the T-72's ==

I was reading the Wikipedia article on the movie and apparently(according to a Soldier of Fortune Magazine article about the film) the mock up T-72's were so realistic that when someone saw them being taken from the company that made them to the studio during pre production the CIA sent agents to the studio to find out were they came from. That is an interesting tidbit that I think would be important enough to mention in the article. But I don't want to do it without permission or without a consensus of the people who have worked on this page.

:During the snow scene, there was a M1 Abrams engaging the two T-72s (and kept on missing the target until Col. Tanner marked the last tank with a smoke grenade). I doubt they would have access to a real Abram so this is obviously a mock up too. Any information on this vehicle?--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 18:21, 29 April 2011 (CDT)

== Spetsnaz or VDV? ==

From what I've read on Cold War era Spetsnaz, they were a very secretive branch that took great care to remain anonymous, such as wearing the uniforms of other branches (such as the VDV) in the field. In light of this, are Colonel Strelnikov's soldiers supposed to be Spetsnaz in VDV uniforms or real VDV? If the former, I can't see them announcing their presence like they did in the movie; on the other hand, Millius probably didn't have all that much info on them when the movie was made.
::They were technically just dressed as Soviet Airborne infantry. Though Everyone KNEW what Spetnaz was after the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan in 1979. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:::In addition, and if I remember correctly, Spetsnaz teams were part of "normal" Soviet era Airborne/SF units and were detached on an as needed basis. That way, in a nudge, nudge, wink, wink, way (a la the Combat Applications Group or DEVGRU) these otherwise "normal" troopers can carry on everyday duties without drawing any undue attention. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:26, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
This is an 80's American Movie about Commies invading America. Since we didn't ask Ivan for some props or used uniforms, we just made what we thought Americans would think is a Soviet uniform of that era. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 02:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

:Milius did A LOT of research for this film. As I recall, at no time does Strelnikov's unit describe itself as Spetnaz. They wear the SAME uniform as the airborne troops as not to call attention to themselves. That is correct. I actually have uniforms from the production and I was thinking about posting detailed images of how the 'made up uniforms' differed from the real thing (which became available AFTER 1990). The film was released in 1984 but filming was in 1983. The DOD was really secretive about how much info they had on the Soviet Union. Anyway, I don't know if costume commentary is germane to the page so I left it out. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:11, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I know I'd be interested in the uniforms info MPM. It'd be great if you could take the time to post it here in the talk page so those interested could look at it. Random trivia like that is cool stuff.-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 23:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Spetsnaz GRU has been and remains part of the airborne troops (but reports directly to the General Staff). Spetsnaz GRU, in most cases, there is a uniform of the airborne troops (blue beret). But there were exceptions.
My friend, who served in the GRU special forces in East Germany in the mid-1980's, most of the troops wore uniforms of chemical protection troops. It was for reasons of secrecy. [[User:Slow Rider|Slow Rider]] 08:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

== Reference image ==

This is an M8A1 Cargo Tractor.

[[Image:Us cargo carrier m8e2-003.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

This was the chassis used for the fake T-72 and ZSU. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:01, 29 June 2011 (CDT)

::Well I suppose that the guys at Veluzat don't know their vehicles now do they? In the DVD features, the guys explicitly state that they cut up an '''M48''' for the vehicles, but your image proves that the upper bogey wheels (4) match the RD vehicles better than the M48 (which has 5). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:36, 29 June 2011 (CDT)

:I wonder if the Abram that briefly showed up during the snow battle with the T-72 is based on the same chassis.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 01:57, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

::From what I can gather, yes it is. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:58, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

==Spoilers==

I took the liberty to remove some spoilers that had nothing to do with the actual guns. Hope that's OK. [[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 06:11, 23 April 2012 (CDT)

== Found this elsewhere ==

[[Image:I022118.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

40mm Bofors gun there. Anyone got the DVD to get a better quality cap in the right aspect ratio? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:57, 28 May 2012 (CDT)
:I can take a look. I don't suppose you know approximately when in the film is shows up, do you? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 10:20, 28 May 2012 (CDT)

== Fake AKS74 ==

I wonder why they weren't used in more films, they look a lot more convincing than a lot of the other fakes that were made, I mean they even have the right stock on them! --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 12:03, 10 June 2012 (CDT)

== Jed's rifle ==

Patrick Swayze's rifle is currently listed as a Remington 700. I think it is a Ruger 77 carbine. Look for the scope bases integral to the receiver.--[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] 22:25, 1 September 2012 (CDT)

Please help confirm ID: Ruger or Remington? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 20:23, 18 October 2012 (EDT)

I don't have an open source photo. The screen cap shows: Ruger 77 scope mounts integral to the receiver, the slightly dog-leg Ruger bolt handle, which is difficult to discern at this angle, and the short, light barrel and stock with forend tip that are distinctive features of the Ruger 77 Ultra Light Rifle..--[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] ([[User talk:Sg688|talk]]) 23:52, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
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This is the Ruger 77 MKII rather than the earlier model which used a blued bolt and a tang safety.--[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] ([[User talk:Sg688|talk]]) 20:50, 15 December 2012 (EST)
[[Image:Ruger_77_II_Hawkeye_Ultra_Light_R_fac.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ruger 77 Mk II Ultra Light]]

[[Image:Remington 700 BDL.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 700 .308 Winchester]]
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==Any ideas as to the original vehicle for the fake BTR-60s?==
[[File:FakeSovietArmoredVehicle.jpg]]
mpm

I believe the top of it is made for the movie, but the base is a truck chassis. It is supposedly one of a series of experimental US Army trucks in the late 50s and early 60s which were intended to replace the deuce and a half. This is the XM453E2 which was manufactured by Ford:
[[File:Xm453e2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
I think this could be the truck it is based on, or a relative. The spacing of the wheels looks about right, and the design of the hubs is a match. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:47, 1 November 2012 (EDT)

::Well Veluzat custom made ALL of the tops of the fake vehicles. But I think you may have NAILED IT regarding the base truck model. Good job. I'm discovering that Veluzat would almost always favor relatively common obsolete American made vehicles for all of their builds. Good Job Commando552. I visited the IMCDB site and had to laugh. Those guys actually think they used REAL BTR-60s ..... in the early 1980s! Yeah right. We couldn't get real Russian made firearms back then, much less any surplus vehicles. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008|talk]]) 03:01, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
:::Is it just me, or does gap between the two sets of wheels appears to be wider in the fake BTR than with the truck? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 04:19, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
::::It's a pretty straightforward procedure to stretch out a vehicle, especially if you have the means to completely fabricate a metal body from scratch. The fact that the tyres and hubs look identical is enough for me.--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] ([[User talk:Leigh Burne|talk]]) 04:37, 2 November 2012 (EDT)

== Pistols ==

Just wanted to throw this out there, but during the scene when the Wolverines discover that Daryl was used by the Russians to locate their position, Erica has some kind of pistol in her hand. The pistol is also seen when they are executing surviving Spetsnaz troopers. It looks like a TT-33.--Gunner5

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Talk:Colors

2012-11-03T19:41:01Z

Sg688: /* Handguns of the L.A.P.D. */

:Just out of curiousity, does anyone know if the S&W Model 14 was ever issued to the LAPD? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 17:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, I just watched "Adam-12" (which was an extremely accurate portrayal of the LAPD), and I think they used Model 14s too, so it probably was (unless someone else begs to differ). -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 19:51, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::The LAPD used the 6" model 14 for years. In more recent years, the more frequently carried revolver was the 4" S&W model 15, although several other models were authorized (S&W models 10, 64, 67, 68 -a .38 spl version of the model 66-, etc.).

: I have been trying to get this movie for 3 months, but the people at netflix just won't send it to me-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 18:57, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I've seen copies for sale at Walmart for under $10.00. So if you went that route and weren't impressed you could alwasy turn around and sell it to Hastings or maybe a yard sale. Just an idea. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:08, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

:it seems odd that a seasoned veteran like Hodges would be using a Beretta 92 instead of the gun he had been using for the better part of his law inforcement career-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 01:42, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
::Agreed, especially since a rookie like McGavin is using a revolver. McGavin should be using a Beretta and Hodges should be using the Smith & Wesson. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 19:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:Or just give them BOTH S&W's-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 00:15, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
::He wasn't using a Beretta 92, he was using a Beretta 92F. They're different models dammit! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:It's part of the Beretta 92 pistol series though, so unless I'm trying to be real specific, I will just call any pistol in this series a Beretta 92-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:10, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

::If you were to do that while making a page, however, it would be wrong, and you would be corrected. The 92 and 92F are two different guns, and it only takes one more keystroke to differentiate them, anyway.

::Anyway, I do agree that it seems weird that Hodges and not McGavin uses the Beretta. Normally, in these movies, I would expect the veteran to be carrying the older gun and the young hotshot to have the latest, greatest pistol money can buy (and in the late-80s, the Beretta 92F was pretty much '''that''' gun). Why that wasn't the case here is beyond me. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
:Maybe he's a revolver guy like me-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 02:03, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Is this movie good? and Should I buy this movie?.--[[User:Dillinger|Dillinger]] 20:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

It's okay. Seemed really groundbreaking in 1988, but 22 years later (and ''all'' those gangbanger movies that followed) it seems a little dated and even over the top. However I like it becasue it's one of the few movies to try to show the cops prespective in the gang situation in L.A. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:30, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

As far as the Beretta discussion goes, in my mind it kind of made sense that Duvall's character had the 92 rather than Penn by virtue of the fact that they would have issued, at least in my opinion, a "new" weapon to the more senior officers rather than the rookie. And, again, wasn't this the time that the semi-autos were being brought into general service to most police departments? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 02:21, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

== Handguns of the L.A.P.D. ==

In the April 2008 issue of ''Guns&Ammo'' there is an article by Robert Kolesar about the history of the guns of the L.A.P.D. The article is called ''Guns of the LAPD''. Kolesar is currently on active duty with the L.A.P.D. He states that in 1987 both the Beretta 92 and the 9mm S&W autos were authorized for carry. Officers could purchase them with their own money and had to attend a three day semi-auto transition course at the L.A.P.D. police academy.Kolesar was one of the instructors on the transition team for two years.

At one time LAPD officers were issued the S&W Model 14 with the 6" barrel. If I read it correctly the model was double action only and in 38 special. Kolesar refers to it as "Neutered". The six inch Model 14 was very common up until the mid-70's when the 4" S&W Model 15 began to be issued. Many of the six inch Model 14 barrels were cut down to 4" by department armorers and re-issued.

But I believe that those officers who wanted to carry the longer barreled model were still authorized to do so. Another model that was popular was the short lived S&W Model 68 with six inch barrel. The Model 68 is the Model 66 only with the 38 special cylinder instead of the .357 magnum cylinder and stamped 38 special on the barrel instead of .357 magnum. The Model 68 was requested by the California Highway PAtrol and later was also sold to the L.A.P.D. Whne the C.H.P. requested the Model 68 the officers were not allowed to carry .357 magnum revolvers. Guess the C.H.P. was a victim of the political think of the time. The Model 68 was never cataloged by the company and only made from 1977 - 1988. a little over 6,000 were made. They are becoming collector items now.

In the early 1980's the L.A.P.D. began issuing the Model 67 with 4" barrel. The Model 67 is the stainless steel version of the Model 15.

According to Kolesar the L.A.P.D. has always allowed it's officers an extraordinary amount of leeway when it comes to handguns. Back in the revolver days officers could purchase and carry Rugers and Colts for duty though S&W was king. I remember seeing a photo of a uniformed officer at the North Hollywood bank robbery in 97. He was equipped with the S&W Model 68 with a 6" barrel.There are even a few old-timers still carring full sized revolvers on their duty-belts.

So it isn't ''totally'' implausible (when ''Colors'' was filmed in the spring of 1987) that [[Sean Penn|Sean Penn's]] character would have a Model 14 and [[Robert Duvall]] would be equipped with a Beretta. Sure it takes a little stretch of the imagination, but it could have still been the case back in 87. Albeit barely. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:40, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

It's sybolism. Robert Duvall's character has 'new' ideas, so carries a new style pistol. Sean Penn has 'old' ideas, so carries the old style revolver.--[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] ([[User talk:Sg688|talk]]) 15:41, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Red Dawn (1984)

2012-11-03T03:52:48Z

Sg688: /* Jed's rifle */

==Morris's Market Section==

Hi, after rediscovering this old gem of Swayze's (rest in peace, old sport), I thought the Morris's Market section could be expanded just a tad. While the lighting is indeed too dark to make out the guns on the rack in Morris's Market, the actor playing Robert Morris's father does in fact talk about the calibers of the guns he's handing out. I can just make out something along the lines of ".30-08, .38 Special, get that 12-Gauge!" and there is also a nice shot when one of the actors is stuffing box after box of ammunition into a bigger cardboard box. I don't have the DVD right now, but that particular shot would make for a nice screenshot to add to this entry--are those ammunition boxes from real-life companies in business at the time the movie was made? The only company name I can recognize is "Remington," though the boxes do in fact display their calibers, such as .22 LR, .38 Special, and a few are also marked .308 as well.

Also, Robert's father hands the group two shotguns just before they leave the shop--which of those ends up being Robert Morris's primary weapon through the rest of the film? I'd appreciate it if anyone could come up with the necessary screenshots and appropriate additions to this old classic's page. Can't wait to see if they pull the same "They can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead fingers" joke in the remake of this film. Great work setting up and maintaining this wiki, guys!

I was going to mention the fact of Mr. Morris (Roy Jensen) mentioning calibers during the Morris Market scenes. He does call out ".38 Special, .308" as he's pushing boxes across the counter, when he tells the boys not load up on "cookies, candy and crap", just dry and canned goods, so I'm presuming that .308 Winchester is the caliber of Jed's Savage 110. Matt is seen opening the cylinder of a DA revolver he carries in the scenes just before the raid on the train station at the end of the movie, and then closing the cylinder (and, impressively, he closes the cylinder with his hand rather than the "dramatic" flicking it closed that is hard on the lockwork and returns the revolver to his holster). Presumably this then is a .38 Special caliber revolver, or a .357 Magnum loaded with .38 Special.

==Nice Work==
Great revamp MPM, the page looks much more completed now. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Protected from anonymous edits==
I protected it from the same anonymous user who keeps making changes when I'm in the middle of a revamp, and his edits are a bit clumsy (like not bothering to realign images of guns from RIGHT to NONE, and sometimes putting the WRONG image in the gun section). Also there is a method to my madness, I am gearing up to put shots of Red Dawn mockup guns in place, so I don't want anonymous users endless making changes that I'm going to have to get rid of during the next revamp of the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If you are done with your revamp could you please unprotect the page so I can add more pictures,please. [[BOB]]
:You are a new user, you have no track record, we have no idea what you are going to put on this page, and it has been protected because of inane edits by anonymous and new users. If possible, can you propose what changes you want on the talk page? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:01, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

I have some pictures for the AKM and AKS-74.[[User:AK-74Fan]]
:And you missed a gun, MPM. One Cuban army officer uses an Makarov PM in the last battle. The one who gets hit by the RPG backblast.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:11, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
:: I don't think that was a Makarov. If I remember it looked closer to a PPK or SIG P230. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
I've got a picture of that, along with 13 or 14 others I could add if the page were unprotected.[[User:AK-74Fan]] 11, October 2009 11:09 AM
::That is why the page is protected. To keep people from adding too many images against the wishes of the people who spent a great deal of time and effort to create the page. You may have seen pages with tons and tons of screencaps. Those are not mine and I have in the past argued strongly against it. But other people took the time to create those pages, so I won't edit them for the sake of length. IMFDB is starting to look like many states' legislative codes, everything is added and nothing is deleted. to the OP, build some awesome looking pages and I'll consider it. But we can no longer be so lenient on everyone, especially since so many new members do crap screencaps, or lame pages, or wrong info or just have no sense when it comes to making a decent looking page. Sorry that the sins of others affect everyone, but you will understand. On the pistol, Thanks for the heads up Oliviera. I will check it out. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:40, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

==Funny==
Odd isn't it, Modern Warfare 2 also features Russian paratroopers taking over American cities. so I guess Red Dawn has finally made a name for itself, spawning a large plot point for one of the finest video games of all time. nice work Swayze. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
:You mean Call of Grenades: Action Movie Warfare 2? Yeah, that's a whole sale ripoff, dude. Did you not notice the "WOLVERINES" tag at the beginning of the level or something? Fun drinking game, take a drink every time they rip off a movie, reference Generation Kill, or say OSCAR MIKE, two drinks if it's an inappropriate use.-protoAuthor 03:45, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
:::This is a TRULY great post... lol. Seems like every time I play MW2 or CoD4 I see another segment where they've ripped off Black Hawk Down, Generation Kill, or something similar. It's really tiresome after a while; there's plenty of original content to be had with this genre, why don't they just leave the war movies alone? Bah. [[Special:Contributions/70.197.109.68|70.197.109.68]] 05:56, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
::Ahem, you're assuming the players are OLD enough to drink. We don't want to encourage underage drinking. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:32, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
:Dude, you would be dead from alchohol poisoning 20 minutes into the game-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:52, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
::If people took a drink with all that, there would be a shit load of dead twelve year olds all across the world. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
I'm more inclined to think of the "Wolverines!" level as an homage rather than a rip off, because aside from the parachuting Russians falling on suburban America, it had little if anything at all else in common with the events of Red Dawn (can any of the locales in Red Dawn even be called "suburban"?). Now, if you were playing as high-school students with AKs and your objective was to flee into the mountains, then yes, I'd consider it a rip off. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 15:22, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I am also an editor on serveral video game wikias and i just can't stand when some asshole fucks up every weapons page on the site because they think they know what guns just because they play this stupid game. every time a bomb goes off in this game, American youth gets more assholish. Damn you Modern Warfare 2! - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 02:19, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

==Remake==
I am quite curious what the weapons load out will be for the remake they are shooting right now especially given the fact that eastern bloc weapons are now more readily available (including armour) than they were in the 1980's. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:42, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Go to the forum, we got a whole thread about it. And it's the Chinese instead of the Russians and they are using AK-101s or something like that. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:28, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, some of the pictures at the forum do show pics of soldiers with Russian Federation shoulder patches. I still wish they could have he Chinese using [[Norinco QB rifle series|Norinco QB]]-series weapons instead of inaccurate [[AK-47|Kalashnikov]]-series weapons. As far as armor, I don't see why they couldn't mock up a T72 to resemble the Chinese Type 99 or Russian T90 since they're both based on the T72 platform. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:Actually when I mentioned armour I referred to the fact that all the "Soviet" armour in the original were mockups built on old M48 Patton tank chasis (I believe). I remember a story I read that the replica T72 in the original was so authentic that some CIA agents allegedly questioned the movie makers as to where it came from.--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 01:13, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, the CIA guys were questioning the crew about the gunships from the canyon scene. Anyway, http://www.reddawn2010.com/ is an unofficial fansite devoted to the remake. It's got lots of videos and pics of the production so far and they update at least once a week; there's plenty of opportunity to snuff out the equipment there.--[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 12:29, 2 December 2009

::Who's making the remake and where? I ask because that M1 Abrams doesn't look like an Abrams to me. 6 roadwheels, not 7, and the front of the hull...looks like an old british army cheiftain to me (which are readily avaliable since they were removed from active and then reserve service in '98 and '96 respectivily)

:Sorry to nitpick here but if you look at this article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn it mentions the T-72 specifically. No mention of the Hinds. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 01:55, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

A remake? Remakes should never be done of classic movies (The Getaway, War of the Worlds, The Time Machine, Red River, The Alamo, King Kong just for starters) and Red Dawn is a classic. Looking at that website, I'm guessing this remake is going to suck. The Chinese invade Michigan huh? Well, filming in Detroit shouldn't even require building any sets, most of it looks like a war zone anyway.

==Aardvark==
As far as I recall Arturo "Aardvark" Mondragon is addressed by name one other time in the movie. When they boys are escaping town on the way to Morris' Market they pass by Aardvark's wounded father who frantically yells "Arturo" as his son speeds away to safety. After that his name is not mentioned again until his death on the T-72. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 02:06, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::His father (played by Pepe Serna of [[The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension ]] and [[Silverado]] fame, yells the name and the audience has to figure out that it's Aardvark who is yelling "papa!" from the back of the truck. it's not clear from the FILM that Arturo and Aardvark are the same character. We only know it here, because it's listed here (and on Partisan Rock) which is seen only fleetingly. I saw it in the movie theatre three times. It still wasn't clear then. Then Lea Thompson yells "Aardvark!" when he dies. Again, confusing the audience, since this is the first time he is referred to by that name. Overall it was poor filmmaking/editing to make a major character so confusing. Also Darryl was another character whose identity had to be parsed by the audience over multiple viewings. And I was always getting Darryl confused with Danny (Brad Savage). The filmmakers had a bunch of young (and then pretty much unknown actors) all of whom were brunettes (with the possible exception of Jennifer Grey) and (with the exception of Matt and Jed) were poorly introduced to the audience. We didn't know WHO the hell these kids were by the end of the film, other than cannon fodder for Russian bullets. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

ZOMFG, I just realized that they have pretty much omitted Aardvark from the remake. No one has been announced as 'cast' for the role. LOL his character was totally unnecessary, kinda like Darryl.
:I wouldn't say that Darryl was unnecessary. He and his father represented collaborators, or at least people who are willing to put in the least effort to maintain some semblance of the status quo. His execution demonstrated how Jed and Robert had been hardened by the conflict and now saw the world in black and white. (The original script was more Lord of the Flies-esque.)--[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 20:45, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== Nicaraguan Captain? ==
Are we sure the Captain is Nicaraguan? He seemed to work with the Officer that let's Matt and Jed live at the end. I thought he and the captain were Cuban.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:34, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
:You know, if you checked the credits you would have answered your own question. That's what the actors's character is called in the final credit roll. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:00, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
*Excuse me, MPM. When I first saw the film on it's initial release my Peruvian friend said that Ron O'Neal had a very convincing Cuban accent and all things I've read written on the film mention his character was Cuban. Is it possible that in pre-production (hence the credits) the character was Nicaraugan but when Mr O'Neal took the role he transformed the role with Mr Milus' permission to a Cuban? To me one of the film's great strengths are his and former Russian linguist William Smith's professional and sympathetic performances in the enemy roles that give the film a lot more depth.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] 22:37, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
::You're excused [[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ;) But I was talking about Judd Omen's character, not Ron O'Neal's. Judd Omen played The Nicaraguan Captain. Ron O'Neal played a Colonel, not a Captain, so it's obvious we were not talking about him. Ron O'Neil played Colonel Ernesto Bella who was indeed Cuban. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:32, 23 April 2012 (CDT)

== A possible edition to the section on the T-72's ==

I was reading the Wikipedia article on the movie and apparently(according to a Soldier of Fortune Magazine article about the film) the mock up T-72's were so realistic that when someone saw them being taken from the company that made them to the studio during pre production the CIA sent agents to the studio to find out were they came from. That is an interesting tidbit that I think would be important enough to mention in the article. But I don't want to do it without permission or without a consensus of the people who have worked on this page.

:During the snow scene, there was a M1 Abrams engaging the two T-72s (and kept on missing the target until Col. Tanner marked the last tank with a smoke grenade). I doubt they would have access to a real Abram so this is obviously a mock up too. Any information on this vehicle?--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 18:21, 29 April 2011 (CDT)

== Spetsnaz or VDV? ==

From what I've read on Cold War era Spetsnaz, they were a very secretive branch that took great care to remain anonymous, such as wearing the uniforms of other branches (such as the VDV) in the field. In light of this, are Colonel Strelnikov's soldiers supposed to be Spetsnaz in VDV uniforms or real VDV? If the former, I can't see them announcing their presence like they did in the movie; on the other hand, Millius probably didn't have all that much info on them when the movie was made.
::They were technically just dressed as Soviet Airborne infantry. Though Everyone KNEW what Spetnaz was after the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan in 1979. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:::In addition, and if I remember correctly, Spetsnaz teams were part of "normal" Soviet era Airborne/SF units and were detached on an as needed basis. That way, in a nudge, nudge, wink, wink, way (a la the Combat Applications Group or DEVGRU) these otherwise "normal" troopers can carry on everyday duties without drawing any undue attention. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:26, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
This is an 80's American Movie about Commies invading America. Since we didn't ask Ivan for some props or used uniforms, we just made what we thought Americans would think is a Soviet uniform of that era. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 02:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

:Milius did A LOT of research for this film. As I recall, at no time does Strelnikov's unit describe itself as Spetnaz. They wear the SAME uniform as the airborne troops as not to call attention to themselves. That is correct. I actually have uniforms from the production and I was thinking about posting detailed images of how the 'made up uniforms' differed from the real thing (which became available AFTER 1990). The film was released in 1984 but filming was in 1983. The DOD was really secretive about how much info they had on the Soviet Union. Anyway, I don't know if costume commentary is germane to the page so I left it out. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:11, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I know I'd be interested in the uniforms info MPM. It'd be great if you could take the time to post it here in the talk page so those interested could look at it. Random trivia like that is cool stuff.-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 23:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Spetsnaz GRU has been and remains part of the airborne troops (but reports directly to the General Staff). Spetsnaz GRU, in most cases, there is a uniform of the airborne troops (blue beret). But there were exceptions.
My friend, who served in the GRU special forces in East Germany in the mid-1980's, most of the troops wore uniforms of chemical protection troops. It was for reasons of secrecy. [[User:Slow Rider|Slow Rider]] 08:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

== Reference image ==

This is an M8A1 Cargo Tractor.

[[Image:Us cargo carrier m8e2-003.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

This was the chassis used for the fake T-72 and ZSU. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:01, 29 June 2011 (CDT)

::Well I suppose that the guys at Veluzat don't know their vehicles now do they? In the DVD features, the guys explicitly state that they cut up an '''M48''' for the vehicles, but your image proves that the upper bogey wheels (4) match the RD vehicles better than the M48 (which has 5). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:36, 29 June 2011 (CDT)

:I wonder if the Abram that briefly showed up during the snow battle with the T-72 is based on the same chassis.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 01:57, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

::From what I can gather, yes it is. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:58, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

==Spoilers==

I took the liberty to remove some spoilers that had nothing to do with the actual guns. Hope that's OK. [[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 06:11, 23 April 2012 (CDT)

== Found this elsewhere ==

[[Image:I022118.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

40mm Bofors gun there. Anyone got the DVD to get a better quality cap in the right aspect ratio? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:57, 28 May 2012 (CDT)
:I can take a look. I don't suppose you know approximately when in the film is shows up, do you? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 10:20, 28 May 2012 (CDT)

== Fake AKS74 ==

I wonder why they weren't used in more films, they look a lot more convincing than a lot of the other fakes that were made, I mean they even have the right stock on them! --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 12:03, 10 June 2012 (CDT)

== Jed's rifle ==

Patrick Swayze's rifle is currently listed as a Remington 700. I think it is a Ruger 77 carbine. Look for the scope bases integral to the receiver.--[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] 22:25, 1 September 2012 (CDT)

Please help confirm ID: Ruger or Remington? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 20:23, 18 October 2012 (EDT)

I don't have an open source photo. The screen cap shows: Ruger 77 scope mounts integral to the receiver, the slightly dog-leg Ruger bolt handle, which is difficult to discern at this angle, and the short, light barrel and stock with forend tip that are distinctive features of the Ruger 77 Ultra Light Rifle..--[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] ([[User talk:Sg688|talk]]) 23:52, 2 November 2012 (EDT)

[[Image:Remington 700 BDL.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 700 .308 Winchester]]
[[Image:RedDawnMod70 02.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|900px|]]

==Any ideas as to the original vehicle for the fake BTR-60s?==
[[File:FakeSovietArmoredVehicle.jpg]]
mpm

I believe the top of it is made for the movie, but the base is a truck chassis. It is supposedly one of a series of experimental US Army trucks in the late 50s and early 60s which were intended to replace the deuce and a half. This is the XM453E2 which was manufactured by Ford:
[[File:Xm453e2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
I think this could be the truck it is based on, or a relative. The spacing of the wheels looks about right, and the design of the hubs is a match. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:47, 1 November 2012 (EDT)

::Well Veluzat custom made ALL of the tops of the fake vehicles. But I think you may have NAILED IT regarding the base truck model. Good job. I'm discovering that Veluzat would almost always favor relatively common obsolete American made vehicles for all of their builds. Good Job Commando552. I visited the IMCDB site and had to laugh. Those guys actually think they used REAL BTR-60s ..... in the early 1980s! Yeah right. We couldn't get real Russian made firearms back then, much less any surplus vehicles. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008|talk]]) 03:01, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
:::Is it just me, or does gap between the two sets of wheels appears to be wider in the fake BTR than with the truck? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 04:19, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
::::It's a pretty straightforward procedure to stretch out a vehicle, especially if you have the means to completely fabricate a metal body from scratch. The fact that the tyres and hubs look identical is enough for me.--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] ([[User talk:Leigh Burne|talk]]) 04:37, 2 November 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Red Dawn (1984)

2012-09-02T03:25:44Z

Sg688:

==Morris's Market Section==

Hi, after rediscovering this old gem of Swayze's (rest in peace, old sport), I thought the Morris's Market section could be expanded just a tad. While the lighting is indeed too dark to make out the guns on the rack in Morris's Market, the actor playing Robert Morris's father does in fact talk about the calibers of the guns he's handing out. I can just make out something along the lines of ".30-08, .38 Special, get that 12-Gauge!" and there is also a nice shot when one of the actors is stuffing box after box of ammunition into a bigger cardboard box. I don't have the DVD right now, but that particular shot would make for a nice screenshot to add to this entry--are those ammunition boxes from real-life companies in business at the time the movie was made? The only company name I can recognize is "Remington," though the boxes do in fact display their calibers, such as .22 LR, .38 Special, and a few are also marked .308 as well.

Also, Robert's father hands the group two shotguns just before they leave the shop--which of those ends up being Robert Morris's primary weapon through the rest of the film? I'd appreciate it if anyone could come up with the necessary screenshots and appropriate additions to this old classic's page. Can't wait to see if they pull the same "They can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead fingers" joke in the remake of this film. Great work setting up and maintaining this wiki, guys!

I was going to mention the fact of Mr. Morris (Roy Jensen) mentioning calibers during the Morris Market scenes. He does call out ".38 Special, .308" as he's pushing boxes across the counter, when he tells the boys not load up on "cookies, candy and crap", just dry and canned goods, so I'm presuming that .308 Winchester is the caliber of Jed's Savage 110. Matt is seen opening the cylinder of a DA revolver he carries in the scenes just before the raid on the train station at the end of the movie, and then closing the cylinder (and, impressively, he closes the cylinder with his hand rather than the "dramatic" flicking it closed that is hard on the lockwork and returns the revolver to his holster). Presumably this then is a .38 Special caliber revolver, or a .357 Magnum loaded with .38 Special.

==Nice Work==
Great revamp MPM, the page looks much more completed now. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Protected from anonymous edits==
I protected it from the same anonymous user who keeps making changes when I'm in the middle of a revamp, and his edits are a bit clumsy (like not bothering to realign images of guns from RIGHT to NONE, and sometimes putting the WRONG image in the gun section). Also there is a method to my madness, I am gearing up to put shots of Red Dawn mockup guns in place, so I don't want anonymous users endless making changes that I'm going to have to get rid of during the next revamp of the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If you are done with your revamp could you please unprotect the page so I can add more pictures,please. [[BOB]]
:You are a new user, you have no track record, we have no idea what you are going to put on this page, and it has been protected because of inane edits by anonymous and new users. If possible, can you propose what changes you want on the talk page? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:01, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

I have some pictures for the AKM and AKS-74.[[User:AK-74Fan]]
:And you missed a gun, MPM. One Cuban army officer uses an Makarov PM in the last battle. The one who gets hit by the RPG backblast.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:11, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
:: I don't think that was a Makarov. If I remember it looked closer to a PPK or SIG P230. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
I've got a picture of that, along with 13 or 14 others I could add if the page were unprotected.[[User:AK-74Fan]] 11, October 2009 11:09 AM
::That is why the page is protected. To keep people from adding too many images against the wishes of the people who spent a great deal of time and effort to create the page. You may have seen pages with tons and tons of screencaps. Those are not mine and I have in the past argued strongly against it. But other people took the time to create those pages, so I won't edit them for the sake of length. IMFDB is starting to look like many states' legislative codes, everything is added and nothing is deleted. to the OP, build some awesome looking pages and I'll consider it. But we can no longer be so lenient on everyone, especially since so many new members do crap screencaps, or lame pages, or wrong info or just have no sense when it comes to making a decent looking page. Sorry that the sins of others affect everyone, but you will understand. On the pistol, Thanks for the heads up Oliviera. I will check it out. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:40, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

==Funny==
Odd isn't it, Modern Warfare 2 also features Russian paratroopers taking over American cities. so I guess Red Dawn has finally made a name for itself, spawning a large plot point for one of the finest video games of all time. nice work Swayze. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
:You mean Call of Grenades: Action Movie Warfare 2? Yeah, that's a whole sale ripoff, dude. Did you not notice the "WOLVERINES" tag at the beginning of the level or something? Fun drinking game, take a drink every time they rip off a movie, reference Generation Kill, or say OSCAR MIKE, two drinks if it's an inappropriate use.-protoAuthor 03:45, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
:::This is a TRULY great post... lol. Seems like every time I play MW2 or CoD4 I see another segment where they've ripped off Black Hawk Down, Generation Kill, or something similar. It's really tiresome after a while; there's plenty of original content to be had with this genre, why don't they just leave the war movies alone? Bah. [[Special:Contributions/70.197.109.68|70.197.109.68]] 05:56, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
::Ahem, you're assuming the players are OLD enough to drink. We don't want to encourage underage drinking. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:32, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
:Dude, you would be dead from alchohol poisoning 20 minutes into the game-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:52, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
::If people took a drink with all that, there would be a shit load of dead twelve year olds all across the world. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
I'm more inclined to think of the "Wolverines!" level as an homage rather than a rip off, because aside from the parachuting Russians falling on suburban America, it had little if anything at all else in common with the events of Red Dawn (can any of the locales in Red Dawn even be called "suburban"?). Now, if you were playing as high-school students with AKs and your objective was to flee into the mountains, then yes, I'd consider it a rip off. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 15:22, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I am also an editor on serveral video game wikias and i just can't stand when some asshole fucks up every weapons page on the site because they think they know what guns just because they play this stupid game. every time a bomb goes off in this game, American youth gets more assholish. Damn you Modern Warfare 2! - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 02:19, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

==Remake==
I am quite curious what the weapons load out will be for the remake they are shooting right now especially given the fact that eastern bloc weapons are now more readily available (including armour) than they were in the 1980's. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:42, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Go to the forum, we got a whole thread about it. And it's the Chinese instead of the Russians and they are using AK-101s or something like that. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:28, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, some of the pictures at the forum do show pics of soldiers with Russian Federation shoulder patches. I still wish they could have he Chinese using [[Norinco QB rifle series|Norinco QB]]-series weapons instead of inaccurate [[AK-47|Kalashnikov]]-series weapons. As far as armor, I don't see why they couldn't mock up a T72 to resemble the Chinese Type 99 or Russian T90 since they're both based on the T72 platform. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:Actually when I mentioned armour I referred to the fact that all the "Soviet" armour in the original were mockups built on old M48 Patton tank chasis (I believe). I remember a story I read that the replica T72 in the original was so authentic that some CIA agents allegedly questioned the movie makers as to where it came from.--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 01:13, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, the CIA guys were questioning the crew about the gunships from the canyon scene. Anyway, http://www.reddawn2010.com/ is an unofficial fansite devoted to the remake. It's got lots of videos and pics of the production so far and they update at least once a week; there's plenty of opportunity to snuff out the equipment there.--[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 12:29, 2 December 2009

::Who's making the remake and where? I ask because that M1 Abrams doesn't look like an Abrams to me. 6 roadwheels, not 7, and the front of the hull...looks like an old british army cheiftain to me (which are readily avaliable since they were removed from active and then reserve service in '98 and '96 respectivily)

:Sorry to nitpick here but if you look at this article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn it mentions the T-72 specifically. No mention of the Hinds. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 01:55, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

A remake? Remakes should never be done of classic movies (The Getaway, War of the Worlds, The Time Machine, Red River, The Alamo, King Kong just for starters) and Red Dawn is a classic. Looking at that website, I'm guessing this remake is going to suck. The Chinese invade Michigan huh? Well, filming in Detroit shouldn't even require building any sets, most of it looks like a war zone anyway.

==Aardvark==
As far as I recall Arturo "Aardvark" Mondragon is addressed by name one other time in the movie. When they boys are escaping town on the way to Morris' Market they pass by Aardvark's wounded father who frantically yells "Arturo" as his son speeds away to safety. After that his name is not mentioned again until his death on the T-72. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 02:06, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::His father (played by Pepe Serna of [[The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension ]] and [[Silverado]] fame, yells the name and the audience has to figure out that it's Aardvark who is yelling "papa!" from the back of the truck. it's not clear from the FILM that Arturo and Aardvark are the same character. We only know it here, because it's listed here (and on Partisan Rock) which is seen only fleetingly. I saw it in the movie theatre three times. It still wasn't clear then. Then Lea Thompson yells "Aardvark!" when he dies. Again, confusing the audience, since this is the first time he is referred to by that name. Overall it was poor filmmaking/editing to make a major character so confusing. Also Darryl was another character whose identity had to be parsed by the audience over multiple viewings. And I was always getting Darryl confused with Danny (Brad Savage). The filmmakers had a bunch of young (and then pretty much unknown actors) all of whom were brunettes (with the possible exception of Jennifer Grey) and (with the exception of Matt and Jed) were poorly introduced to the audience. We didn't know WHO the hell these kids were by the end of the film, other than cannon fodder for Russian bullets. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

ZOMFG, I just realized that they have pretty much omitted Aardvark from the remake. No one has been announced as 'cast' for the role. LOL his character was totally unnecessary, kinda like Darryl.
:I wouldn't say that Darryl was unnecessary. He and his father represented collaborators, or at least people who are willing to put in the least effort to maintain some semblance of the status quo. His execution demonstrated how Jed and Robert had been hardened by the conflict and now saw the world in black and white. (The original script was more Lord of the Flies-esque.)--[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 20:45, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== Nicaraguan Captain? ==
Are we sure the Captain is Nicaraguan? He seemed to work with the Officer that let's Matt and Jed live at the end. I thought he and the captain were Cuban.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:34, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
:You know, if you checked the credits you would have answered your own question. That's what the actors's character is called in the final credit roll. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:00, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
*Excuse me, MPM. When I first saw the film on it's initial release my Peruvian friend said that Ron O'Neal had a very convincing Cuban accent and all things I've read written on the film mention his character was Cuban. Is it possible that in pre-production (hence the credits) the character was Nicaraugan but when Mr O'Neal took the role he transformed the role with Mr Milus' permission to a Cuban? To me one of the film's great strengths are his and former Russian linguist William Smith's professional and sympathetic performances in the enemy roles that give the film a lot more depth.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] 22:37, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
::You're excused [[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ;) But I was talking about Judd Omen's character, not Ron O'Neal's. Judd Omen played The Nicaraguan Captain. Ron O'Neal played a Colonel, not a Captain, so it's obvious we were not talking about him. Ron O'Neil played Colonel Ernesto Bella who was indeed Cuban. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:32, 23 April 2012 (CDT)

== A possible edition to the section on the T-72's ==

I was reading the Wikipedia article on the movie and apparently(according to a Soldier of Fortune Magazine article about the film) the mock up T-72's were so realistic that when someone saw them being taken from the company that made them to the studio during pre production the CIA sent agents to the studio to find out were they came from. That is an interesting tidbit that I think would be important enough to mention in the article. But I don't want to do it without permission or without a consensus of the people who have worked on this page.

:During the snow scene, there was a M1 Abrams engaging the two T-72s (and kept on missing the target until Col. Tanner marked the last tank with a smoke grenade). I doubt they would have access to a real Abram so this is obviously a mock up too. Any information on this vehicle?--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 18:21, 29 April 2011 (CDT)

== Spetsnaz or VDV? ==

From what I've read on Cold War era Spetsnaz, they were a very secretive branch that took great care to remain anonymous, such as wearing the uniforms of other branches (such as the VDV) in the field. In light of this, are Colonel Strelnikov's soldiers supposed to be Spetsnaz in VDV uniforms or real VDV? If the former, I can't see them announcing their presence like they did in the movie; on the other hand, Millius probably didn't have all that much info on them when the movie was made.
::They were technically just dressed as Soviet Airborne infantry. Though Everyone KNEW what Spetnaz was after the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan in 1979. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:::In addition, and if I remember correctly, Spetsnaz teams were part of "normal" Soviet era Airborne/SF units and were detached on an as needed basis. That way, in a nudge, nudge, wink, wink, way (a la the Combat Applications Group or DEVGRU) these otherwise "normal" troopers can carry on everyday duties without drawing any undue attention. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:26, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
This is an 80's American Movie about Commies invading America. Since we didn't ask Ivan for some props or used uniforms, we just made what we thought Americans would think is a Soviet uniform of that era. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 02:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

:Milius did A LOT of research for this film. As I recall, at no time does Strelnikov's unit describe itself as Spetnaz. They wear the SAME uniform as the airborne troops as not to call attention to themselves. That is correct. I actually have uniforms from the production and I was thinking about posting detailed images of how the 'made up uniforms' differed from the real thing (which became available AFTER 1990). The film was released in 1984 but filming was in 1983. The DOD was really secretive about how much info they had on the Soviet Union. Anyway, I don't know if costume commentary is germane to the page so I left it out. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:11, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I know I'd be interested in the uniforms info MPM. It'd be great if you could take the time to post it here in the talk page so those interested could look at it. Random trivia like that is cool stuff.-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 23:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Spetsnaz GRU has been and remains part of the airborne troops (but reports directly to the General Staff). Spetsnaz GRU, in most cases, there is a uniform of the airborne troops (blue beret). But there were exceptions.
My friend, who served in the GRU special forces in East Germany in the mid-1980's, most of the troops wore uniforms of chemical protection troops. It was for reasons of secrecy. [[User:Slow Rider|Slow Rider]] 08:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

== Reference image ==

This is an M8A1 Cargo Tractor.

[[Image:Us cargo carrier m8e2-003.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

This was the chassis used for the fake T-72 and ZSU. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:01, 29 June 2011 (CDT)

::Well I suppose that the guys at Veluzat don't know their vehicles now do they? In the DVD features, the guys explicitly state that they cut up an '''M48''' for the vehicles, but your image proves that the upper bogey wheels (4) match the RD vehicles better than the M48 (which has 5). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:36, 29 June 2011 (CDT)

:I wonder if the Abram that briefly showed up during the snow battle with the T-72 is based on the same chassis.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 01:57, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

::From what I can gather, yes it is. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:58, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

==Spoilers==

I took the liberty to remove some spoilers that had nothing to do with the actual guns. Hope that's OK. [[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 06:11, 23 April 2012 (CDT)

== Found this elsewhere ==

[[Image:I022118.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

40mm Bofors gun there. Anyone got the DVD to get a better quality cap in the right aspect ratio? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:57, 28 May 2012 (CDT)
:I can take a look. I don't suppose you know approximately when in the film is shows up, do you? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 10:20, 28 May 2012 (CDT)

== Fake AKS74 ==

I wonder why they weren't used in more films, they look a lot more convincing than a lot of the other fakes that were made, I mean they even have the right stock on them! --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 12:03, 10 June 2012 (CDT)

== Jed's rifle ==

Patrick Swayze's rifle is currently listed as a Remington 700. I think it is a Ruger 77 carbine. Look for the scope bases integral to the receiver.
--[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] 22:25, 1 September 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Red Dawn (1984)

2012-09-02T03:19:11Z

Sg688:

==Morris's Market Section==

Hi, after rediscovering this old gem of Swayze's (rest in peace, old sport), I thought the Morris's Market section could be expanded just a tad. While the lighting is indeed too dark to make out the guns on the rack in Morris's Market, the actor playing Robert Morris's father does in fact talk about the calibers of the guns he's handing out. I can just make out something along the lines of ".30-08, .38 Special, get that 12-Gauge!" and there is also a nice shot when one of the actors is stuffing box after box of ammunition into a bigger cardboard box. I don't have the DVD right now, but that particular shot would make for a nice screenshot to add to this entry--are those ammunition boxes from real-life companies in business at the time the movie was made? The only company name I can recognize is "Remington," though the boxes do in fact display their calibers, such as .22 LR, .38 Special, and a few are also marked .308 as well.

Also, Robert's father hands the group two shotguns just before they leave the shop--which of those ends up being Robert Morris's primary weapon through the rest of the film? I'd appreciate it if anyone could come up with the necessary screenshots and appropriate additions to this old classic's page. Can't wait to see if they pull the same "They can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead fingers" joke in the remake of this film. Great work setting up and maintaining this wiki, guys!

I was going to mention the fact of Mr. Morris (Roy Jensen) mentioning calibers during the Morris Market scenes. He does call out ".38 Special, .308" as he's pushing boxes across the counter, when he tells the boys not load up on "cookies, candy and crap", just dry and canned goods, so I'm presuming that .308 Winchester is the caliber of Jed's Savage 110. Matt is seen opening the cylinder of a DA revolver he carries in the scenes just before the raid on the train station at the end of the movie, and then closing the cylinder (and, impressively, he closes the cylinder with his hand rather than the "dramatic" flicking it closed that is hard on the lockwork and returns the revolver to his holster). Presumably this then is a .38 Special caliber revolver, or a .357 Magnum loaded with .38 Special.

==Nice Work==
Great revamp MPM, the page looks much more completed now. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Protected from anonymous edits==
I protected it from the same anonymous user who keeps making changes when I'm in the middle of a revamp, and his edits are a bit clumsy (like not bothering to realign images of guns from RIGHT to NONE, and sometimes putting the WRONG image in the gun section). Also there is a method to my madness, I am gearing up to put shots of Red Dawn mockup guns in place, so I don't want anonymous users endless making changes that I'm going to have to get rid of during the next revamp of the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If you are done with your revamp could you please unprotect the page so I can add more pictures,please. [[BOB]]
:You are a new user, you have no track record, we have no idea what you are going to put on this page, and it has been protected because of inane edits by anonymous and new users. If possible, can you propose what changes you want on the talk page? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:01, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

I have some pictures for the AKM and AKS-74.[[User:AK-74Fan]]
:And you missed a gun, MPM. One Cuban army officer uses an Makarov PM in the last battle. The one who gets hit by the RPG backblast.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:11, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
:: I don't think that was a Makarov. If I remember it looked closer to a PPK or SIG P230. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
I've got a picture of that, along with 13 or 14 others I could add if the page were unprotected.[[User:AK-74Fan]] 11, October 2009 11:09 AM
::That is why the page is protected. To keep people from adding too many images against the wishes of the people who spent a great deal of time and effort to create the page. You may have seen pages with tons and tons of screencaps. Those are not mine and I have in the past argued strongly against it. But other people took the time to create those pages, so I won't edit them for the sake of length. IMFDB is starting to look like many states' legislative codes, everything is added and nothing is deleted. to the OP, build some awesome looking pages and I'll consider it. But we can no longer be so lenient on everyone, especially since so many new members do crap screencaps, or lame pages, or wrong info or just have no sense when it comes to making a decent looking page. Sorry that the sins of others affect everyone, but you will understand. On the pistol, Thanks for the heads up Oliviera. I will check it out. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:40, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

==Funny==
Odd isn't it, Modern Warfare 2 also features Russian paratroopers taking over American cities. so I guess Red Dawn has finally made a name for itself, spawning a large plot point for one of the finest video games of all time. nice work Swayze. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
:You mean Call of Grenades: Action Movie Warfare 2? Yeah, that's a whole sale ripoff, dude. Did you not notice the "WOLVERINES" tag at the beginning of the level or something? Fun drinking game, take a drink every time they rip off a movie, reference Generation Kill, or say OSCAR MIKE, two drinks if it's an inappropriate use.-protoAuthor 03:45, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
:::This is a TRULY great post... lol. Seems like every time I play MW2 or CoD4 I see another segment where they've ripped off Black Hawk Down, Generation Kill, or something similar. It's really tiresome after a while; there's plenty of original content to be had with this genre, why don't they just leave the war movies alone? Bah. [[Special:Contributions/70.197.109.68|70.197.109.68]] 05:56, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
::Ahem, you're assuming the players are OLD enough to drink. We don't want to encourage underage drinking. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:32, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
:Dude, you would be dead from alchohol poisoning 20 minutes into the game-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:52, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
::If people took a drink with all that, there would be a shit load of dead twelve year olds all across the world. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
I'm more inclined to think of the "Wolverines!" level as an homage rather than a rip off, because aside from the parachuting Russians falling on suburban America, it had little if anything at all else in common with the events of Red Dawn (can any of the locales in Red Dawn even be called "suburban"?). Now, if you were playing as high-school students with AKs and your objective was to flee into the mountains, then yes, I'd consider it a rip off. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 15:22, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I am also an editor on serveral video game wikias and i just can't stand when some asshole fucks up every weapons page on the site because they think they know what guns just because they play this stupid game. every time a bomb goes off in this game, American youth gets more assholish. Damn you Modern Warfare 2! - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 02:19, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

==Remake==
I am quite curious what the weapons load out will be for the remake they are shooting right now especially given the fact that eastern bloc weapons are now more readily available (including armour) than they were in the 1980's. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:42, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Go to the forum, we got a whole thread about it. And it's the Chinese instead of the Russians and they are using AK-101s or something like that. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:28, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, some of the pictures at the forum do show pics of soldiers with Russian Federation shoulder patches. I still wish they could have he Chinese using [[Norinco QB rifle series|Norinco QB]]-series weapons instead of inaccurate [[AK-47|Kalashnikov]]-series weapons. As far as armor, I don't see why they couldn't mock up a T72 to resemble the Chinese Type 99 or Russian T90 since they're both based on the T72 platform. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 01:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:Actually when I mentioned armour I referred to the fact that all the "Soviet" armour in the original were mockups built on old M48 Patton tank chasis (I believe). I remember a story I read that the replica T72 in the original was so authentic that some CIA agents allegedly questioned the movie makers as to where it came from.--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 01:13, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, the CIA guys were questioning the crew about the gunships from the canyon scene. Anyway, http://www.reddawn2010.com/ is an unofficial fansite devoted to the remake. It's got lots of videos and pics of the production so far and they update at least once a week; there's plenty of opportunity to snuff out the equipment there.--[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] 12:29, 2 December 2009

::Who's making the remake and where? I ask because that M1 Abrams doesn't look like an Abrams to me. 6 roadwheels, not 7, and the front of the hull...looks like an old british army cheiftain to me (which are readily avaliable since they were removed from active and then reserve service in '98 and '96 respectivily)

:Sorry to nitpick here but if you look at this article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn it mentions the T-72 specifically. No mention of the Hinds. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 01:55, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

A remake? Remakes should never be done of classic movies (The Getaway, War of the Worlds, The Time Machine, Red River, The Alamo, King Kong just for starters) and Red Dawn is a classic. Looking at that website, I'm guessing this remake is going to suck. The Chinese invade Michigan huh? Well, filming in Detroit shouldn't even require building any sets, most of it looks like a war zone anyway.

==Aardvark==
As far as I recall Arturo "Aardvark" Mondragon is addressed by name one other time in the movie. When they boys are escaping town on the way to Morris' Market they pass by Aardvark's wounded father who frantically yells "Arturo" as his son speeds away to safety. After that his name is not mentioned again until his death on the T-72. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 02:06, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::His father (played by Pepe Serna of [[The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension ]] and [[Silverado]] fame, yells the name and the audience has to figure out that it's Aardvark who is yelling "papa!" from the back of the truck. it's not clear from the FILM that Arturo and Aardvark are the same character. We only know it here, because it's listed here (and on Partisan Rock) which is seen only fleetingly. I saw it in the movie theatre three times. It still wasn't clear then. Then Lea Thompson yells "Aardvark!" when he dies. Again, confusing the audience, since this is the first time he is referred to by that name. Overall it was poor filmmaking/editing to make a major character so confusing. Also Darryl was another character whose identity had to be parsed by the audience over multiple viewings. And I was always getting Darryl confused with Danny (Brad Savage). The filmmakers had a bunch of young (and then pretty much unknown actors) all of whom were brunettes (with the possible exception of Jennifer Grey) and (with the exception of Matt and Jed) were poorly introduced to the audience. We didn't know WHO the hell these kids were by the end of the film, other than cannon fodder for Russian bullets. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

ZOMFG, I just realized that they have pretty much omitted Aardvark from the remake. No one has been announced as 'cast' for the role. LOL his character was totally unnecessary, kinda like Darryl.
:I wouldn't say that Darryl was unnecessary. He and his father represented collaborators, or at least people who are willing to put in the least effort to maintain some semblance of the status quo. His execution demonstrated how Jed and Robert had been hardened by the conflict and now saw the world in black and white. (The original script was more Lord of the Flies-esque.)--[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 20:45, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== Nicaraguan Captain? ==
Are we sure the Captain is Nicaraguan? He seemed to work with the Officer that let's Matt and Jed live at the end. I thought he and the captain were Cuban.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:34, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
:You know, if you checked the credits you would have answered your own question. That's what the actors's character is called in the final credit roll. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:00, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
*Excuse me, MPM. When I first saw the film on it's initial release my Peruvian friend said that Ron O'Neal had a very convincing Cuban accent and all things I've read written on the film mention his character was Cuban. Is it possible that in pre-production (hence the credits) the character was Nicaraugan but when Mr O'Neal took the role he transformed the role with Mr Milus' permission to a Cuban? To me one of the film's great strengths are his and former Russian linguist William Smith's professional and sympathetic performances in the enemy roles that give the film a lot more depth.[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] 22:37, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
::You're excused [[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] ;) But I was talking about Judd Omen's character, not Ron O'Neal's. Judd Omen played The Nicaraguan Captain. Ron O'Neal played a Colonel, not a Captain, so it's obvious we were not talking about him. Ron O'Neil played Colonel Ernesto Bella who was indeed Cuban. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:32, 23 April 2012 (CDT)

== A possible edition to the section on the T-72's ==

I was reading the Wikipedia article on the movie and apparently(according to a Soldier of Fortune Magazine article about the film) the mock up T-72's were so realistic that when someone saw them being taken from the company that made them to the studio during pre production the CIA sent agents to the studio to find out were they came from. That is an interesting tidbit that I think would be important enough to mention in the article. But I don't want to do it without permission or without a consensus of the people who have worked on this page.

:During the snow scene, there was a M1 Abrams engaging the two T-72s (and kept on missing the target until Col. Tanner marked the last tank with a smoke grenade). I doubt they would have access to a real Abram so this is obviously a mock up too. Any information on this vehicle?--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 18:21, 29 April 2011 (CDT)

== Spetsnaz or VDV? ==

From what I've read on Cold War era Spetsnaz, they were a very secretive branch that took great care to remain anonymous, such as wearing the uniforms of other branches (such as the VDV) in the field. In light of this, are Colonel Strelnikov's soldiers supposed to be Spetsnaz in VDV uniforms or real VDV? If the former, I can't see them announcing their presence like they did in the movie; on the other hand, Millius probably didn't have all that much info on them when the movie was made.
::They were technically just dressed as Soviet Airborne infantry. Though Everyone KNEW what Spetnaz was after the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan in 1979. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:::In addition, and if I remember correctly, Spetsnaz teams were part of "normal" Soviet era Airborne/SF units and were detached on an as needed basis. That way, in a nudge, nudge, wink, wink, way (a la the Combat Applications Group or DEVGRU) these otherwise "normal" troopers can carry on everyday duties without drawing any undue attention. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:26, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
This is an 80's American Movie about Commies invading America. Since we didn't ask Ivan for some props or used uniforms, we just made what we thought Americans would think is a Soviet uniform of that era. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 02:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

:Milius did A LOT of research for this film. As I recall, at no time does Strelnikov's unit describe itself as Spetnaz. They wear the SAME uniform as the airborne troops as not to call attention to themselves. That is correct. I actually have uniforms from the production and I was thinking about posting detailed images of how the 'made up uniforms' differed from the real thing (which became available AFTER 1990). The film was released in 1984 but filming was in 1983. The DOD was really secretive about how much info they had on the Soviet Union. Anyway, I don't know if costume commentary is germane to the page so I left it out. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:11, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I know I'd be interested in the uniforms info MPM. It'd be great if you could take the time to post it here in the talk page so those interested could look at it. Random trivia like that is cool stuff.-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 23:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Spetsnaz GRU has been and remains part of the airborne troops (but reports directly to the General Staff). Spetsnaz GRU, in most cases, there is a uniform of the airborne troops (blue beret). But there were exceptions.
My friend, who served in the GRU special forces in East Germany in the mid-1980's, most of the troops wore uniforms of chemical protection troops. It was for reasons of secrecy. [[User:Slow Rider|Slow Rider]] 08:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

== Reference image ==

This is an M8A1 Cargo Tractor.

[[Image:Us cargo carrier m8e2-003.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

This was the chassis used for the fake T-72 and ZSU. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:01, 29 June 2011 (CDT)

::Well I suppose that the guys at Veluzat don't know their vehicles now do they? In the DVD features, the guys explicitly state that they cut up an '''M48''' for the vehicles, but your image proves that the upper bogey wheels (4) match the RD vehicles better than the M48 (which has 5). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:36, 29 June 2011 (CDT)

:I wonder if the Abram that briefly showed up during the snow battle with the T-72 is based on the same chassis.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 01:57, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

::From what I can gather, yes it is. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:58, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

==Spoilers==

I took the liberty to remove some spoilers that had nothing to do with the actual guns. Hope that's OK. [[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 06:11, 23 April 2012 (CDT)

== Found this elsewhere ==

[[Image:I022118.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

40mm Bofors gun there. Anyone got the DVD to get a better quality cap in the right aspect ratio? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:57, 28 May 2012 (CDT)
:I can take a look. I don't suppose you know approximately when in the film is shows up, do you? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 10:20, 28 May 2012 (CDT)

== Fake AKS74 ==

I wonder why they weren't used in more films, they look a lot more convincing than a lot of the other fakes that were made, I mean they even have the right stock on them! --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 12:03, 10 June 2012 (CDT)

== Jed's rifle ==

Patrick Swayze's rifle is currently listed as a Remington 700. I think it is a Ruger 77 carbine. Look for the scope bases integral to the receiver.
--[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] 22:19, 1 September 2012 (CDT)

Adam-12

2012-08-25T20:07:48Z

Sg688: /* Shotguns */

[[Image:Adam 12 box art.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Adam-12 (Television Series) (1968-1975)]]
'''The following weapons were used in the TV series ''Adam-12'':'''
__TOC__ 

=Revolvers=

==Smith & Wesson Model 14==
The standard sidearm for patrol officers of the Los Angeles Police Department in the series is the 6-inch barreled [[Smith & Wesson Model 14]] K-38 revolver. LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) and Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]), as well as several other police officers, are seen unholstering and firing their revolvers several times throughout the series. Many suspects are also seen using this gun. At the time, the S&W Model 14 was one of the standard revolvers used by LAPD officers.

[[Image:Smith&WessonModel14.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 14 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) holds his Smith & Wesson Model 14 on a suspect in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LAPD Officer Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) with his Smith & Wesson Model 14 drawn in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy aims his Smith & Wesson Model 14 at two suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_Farrant_log_74.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Custom Farrant stocks on Malloy’s Smith & Wesson Model 14 in "log 74" (2.21)]]
[[Image:A_12_Malloy_K-38_Bank_Robbery_S2.4_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy’s K-38 Bank Robbery(2.4)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==

In season 4, as the real-life LAPD transitioned from 6 inch to 4 inch barrel revolvers – often Model 14 K-38’s cut down by LAPD armorers, Adam-12 changed to [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] "Combat Masterpiece" revolvers, at the same time changing to hinged “clam shell” Safety Speed holsters from the more common pouch holsters used the first three years.

Throughout the series, Pete Malloy used distinctive finger-groove grips by custom grip maker (and famous LAPD range master) Earl “Fuzzy” Farrant. Starting in season 4, Jim Reed also wore custom Farrant grips on his Mdl. 15.

[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam_12_Malloy_Reed_S&W_M-15_Cartwright_600.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Reed and Malloy protect Angela Cartwright from "Assassination" with S&W M-15 revolvers.(4.11)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==

Malloy and Reed are shown with [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] Chief's Special .38 revolvers in cross-draw holsters when off duty or in their rare plain clothes assignments.

[[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_Lewis_xdraw_log_24.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Malloy with S&W Chief’s Special in Lewis cross-draw holster “log 24” (2.17)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Reed_M-36_xdraw_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Reed with S&W Chief’s Special in cross-draw holster “log 103” (2.6)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Malloy aiming S&W Chief’s Special “log 103” (2.6)]]

==Colt Detective Special==

Many Los Angeles Police detectives are seen with [[Colt Detective Special]]s in their holsters. The Detective Special was popular with many LAPD detectives (as well as many detectives throughout the country), due to its small size ideal for concealed carry, up until 1988 when the LAPD switched over to semi-autos.

[[Image:Colt Detective Special.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Detective Special - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-CDS-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A detective (right) with his Colt Detective Special holstered in "Log 131" (1.4). It is noted as a Colt DS by its round butt.]]

==Colt Official Police==
Several criminals are armed with [[Colt Official Police]] revolvers throughout the series.
[[Image:ColtOP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Official Police - .38 Spl]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed confiscates a suspect's Colt Official Police in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A suspect aims his Colt Official Police at Malloy in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Shotguns=

==Ithaca 37==

Los Angeles Police officers, including Peter Malloy and Jim Reed, are often seen using [[Ithaca 37]] shotguns whenever they must deal with armed suspects. They are equipped with standard 4 shot magazine tubes, 18 1/2 Barrels and have Parkerized finishes. This configuration was referred to as the "LAPD Special". The Ithaca 37 was the standard shotgun for the LAPD for several decades until the late 90s, when they switched over to the Remington 870.

[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ithaca 37 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy holds his Ithaca 37 when dealing with armed suspects in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed holds his Ithaca 37 during the hostage situation in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Officer Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]) with his Ithaca 37 in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-4.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed aims his Ithaca 37 at armed suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

==Winchester 1897 Shotgun==
[[Image:WinchesterM1897.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1897 Riot Gun - 12 Gauge]]

[[Image:Adam-12_Winch_97_Hostage_S2.12_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px| LAPD officer aims a non-standard Winchester Model 97 shotgun in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

==Double Barreled shotgun==

Many of the armed suspects that the LAPD encounters in the show are armed with [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Double barreled shotgun]]s.

[[Image:IGA-Coach-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Double Barreled shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-DBS-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy unloads a suspect's Double barreled shotgun in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Rifles=

==Colt AR-15==
Both Reed and Malloy are seen armed with [[M16|AR-15]] rifles when part of LAPD's SWAT in "Log 14" (2.14).
[[File:Colt AR-15 Model SP1.jpg|thumb|none|450px]]
[[Image: Adam-12_Reed_AR-15_SWAT_log_14.JPG |thumb|none|450px|Reed armed with a Colt AR-15 in "S.W.A.T." "Log 14" (2.14)]]

==Remington Model 700 BDL Bolt Action Rifle==
[[Image:Remington-Model-700-BDL 308.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington Model 700 BDL]]
LAPD SWAT officers are shown with [[Remington Model 700|Remington Model 700 BDL]] precision rifles.

[[Image:Adam-12_SWAT_Rem_700_Hostage_S2.12_2_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LAPD SWAT officer aims Remington 700 BDL in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

[[Image:Adam-12_SWAT_Rem_700_Hostage_S2.12_3_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LAPD SWAT officer aims Remington 700 BDL in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

==M1 Carbine==

Seen in the hands of a suspect in Season 4's "The Tip" (Season 4 Episode 16).

[[Image:M1c.jpg|thumb|none|450px|]]

=Miscellaneous=

==Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher==

Sergeant MacDonald ([[William Boyett]]) carries a [[Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]] in the back of his patrol car, kept with several tear gas grenades in a brown case. He often loads it up when the police are dealing with a barricaded armed suspect, usually giving it to Malloy to fire.

[[Image:Federal M201-Z Riot Gun.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]]

[[Image: A-12_Reed_gas_gun_s2.12_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy being unavailable, Reed prepares the Federal Gas Gun for Sgt. MacDonald in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Crime]]

Adam-12

2012-08-25T20:00:11Z

Sg688:

[[Image:Adam 12 box art.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Adam-12 (Television Series) (1968-1975)]]
'''The following weapons were used in the TV series ''Adam-12'':'''
__TOC__ 

=Revolvers=

==Smith & Wesson Model 14==
The standard sidearm for patrol officers of the Los Angeles Police Department in the series is the 6-inch barreled [[Smith & Wesson Model 14]] K-38 revolver. LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) and Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]), as well as several other police officers, are seen unholstering and firing their revolvers several times throughout the series. Many suspects are also seen using this gun. At the time, the S&W Model 14 was one of the standard revolvers used by LAPD officers.

[[Image:Smith&WessonModel14.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 14 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) holds his Smith & Wesson Model 14 on a suspect in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LAPD Officer Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) with his Smith & Wesson Model 14 drawn in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy aims his Smith & Wesson Model 14 at two suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_Farrant_log_74.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Custom Farrant stocks on Malloy’s Smith & Wesson Model 14 in "log 74" (2.21)]]
[[Image:A_12_Malloy_K-38_Bank_Robbery_S2.4_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy’s K-38 Bank Robbery(2.4)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==

In season 4, as the real-life LAPD transitioned from 6 inch to 4 inch barrel revolvers – often Model 14 K-38’s cut down by LAPD armorers, Adam-12 changed to [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] "Combat Masterpiece" revolvers, at the same time changing to hinged “clam shell” Safety Speed holsters from the more common pouch holsters used the first three years.

Throughout the series, Pete Malloy used distinctive finger-groove grips by custom grip maker (and famous LAPD range master) Earl “Fuzzy” Farrant. Starting in season 4, Jim Reed also wore custom Farrant grips on his Mdl. 15.

[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam_12_Malloy_Reed_S&W_M-15_Cartwright_600.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Reed and Malloy protect Angela Cartwright from "Assassination" with S&W M-15 revolvers.(4.11)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==

Malloy and Reed are shown with [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] Chief's Special .38 revolvers in cross-draw holsters when off duty or in their rare plain clothes assignments.

[[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_Lewis_xdraw_log_24.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Malloy with S&W Chief’s Special in Lewis cross-draw holster “log 24” (2.17)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Reed_M-36_xdraw_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Reed with S&W Chief’s Special in cross-draw holster “log 103” (2.6)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Malloy aiming S&W Chief’s Special “log 103” (2.6)]]

==Colt Detective Special==

Many Los Angeles Police detectives are seen with [[Colt Detective Special]]s in their holsters. The Detective Special was popular with many LAPD detectives (as well as many detectives throughout the country), due to its small size ideal for concealed carry, up until 1988 when the LAPD switched over to semi-autos.

[[Image:Colt Detective Special.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Detective Special - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-CDS-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A detective (right) with his Colt Detective Special holstered in "Log 131" (1.4). It is noted as a Colt DS by its round butt.]]

==Colt Official Police==
Several criminals are armed with [[Colt Official Police]] revolvers throughout the series.
[[Image:ColtOP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Official Police - .38 Spl]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed confiscates a suspect's Colt Official Police in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A suspect aims his Colt Official Police at Malloy in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Shotguns=

==Ithaca 37==

Los Angeles Police officers, including Peter Malloy and Jim Reed, are often seen using [[Ithaca 37]] shotguns whenever they must deal with armed suspects. They are equipped with standard 4 shot magazine tubes, 18 1/2 Barrels and have Parkerized finishes. This configuration was referred to as the "LAPD Special". The Ithaca 37 was the standard shotgun for the LAPD for several decades until the late 90s, when they switched over to the Remington 870.

[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ithaca 37 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy holds his Ithaca 37 when dealing with armed suspects in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed holds his Ithaca 37 during the hostage situation in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Officer Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]) with his Ithaca 37 in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-4.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed aims his Ithaca 37 at armed suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

==Double Barreled shotgun==

Many of the armed suspects that the LAPD encounters in the show are armed with [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Double barreled shotgun]]s.

[[Image:IGA-Coach-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Double Barreled shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-DBS-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy unloads a suspect's Double barreled shotgun in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Rifles=

==Colt AR-15==
Both Reed and Malloy are seen armed with [[M16|AR-15]] rifles when part of LAPD's SWAT in "Log 14" (2.14).
[[File:Colt AR-15 Model SP1.jpg|thumb|none|450px]]
[[Image: Adam-12_Reed_AR-15_SWAT_log_14.JPG |thumb|none|450px|Reed armed with a Colt AR-15 in "S.W.A.T." "Log 14" (2.14)]]

==Remington Model 700 BDL Bolt Action Rifle==
[[Image:Remington-Model-700-BDL 308.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington Model 700 BDL]]
LAPD SWAT officers are shown with [[Remington Model 700|Remington Model 700 BDL]] precision rifles.

[[Image:Adam-12_SWAT_Rem_700_Hostage_S2.12_2_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LAPD SWAT officer aims Remington 700 BDL in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

[[Image:Adam-12_SWAT_Rem_700_Hostage_S2.12_3_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LAPD SWAT officer aims Remington 700 BDL in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

==M1 Carbine==

Seen in the hands of a suspect in Season 4's "The Tip" (Season 4 Episode 16).

[[Image:M1c.jpg|thumb|none|450px|]]

=Miscellaneous=

==Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher==

Sergeant MacDonald ([[William Boyett]]) carries a [[Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]] in the back of his patrol car, kept with several tear gas grenades in a brown case. He often loads it up when the police are dealing with a barricaded armed suspect, usually giving it to Malloy to fire.

[[Image:Federal M201-Z Riot Gun.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]]

[[Image: A-12_Reed_gas_gun_s2.12_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy being unavailable, Reed prepares the Federal Gas Gun for Sgt. MacDonald in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Crime]]

File:A 12 Malloy K-38 Bank Robbery S2.4 sm.jpg

2012-08-25T19:51:54Z

Sg688: Adam 12 Mallow with Smith & Wesson K-38 Season 2 episode 4

Adam 12 Mallow with Smith & Wesson K-38 Season 2 episode 4

Adam-12

2012-08-25T03:57:19Z

Sg688: /* Rifles */

[[Image:Adam 12 box art.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Adam-12 (Television Series) (1968-1975)]]
'''The following weapons were used in the TV series ''Adam-12'':'''
__TOC__ 

=Revolvers=

==Smith & Wesson Model 14==
The standard sidearm for patrol officers of the Los Angeles Police Department in the series is the 6-inch barreled [[Smith & Wesson Model 14]] K-38 revolver. LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) and Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]), as well as several other police officers, are seen unholstering and firing their revolvers several times throughout the series. Many suspects are also seen using this gun. At the time, the S&W Model 14 was one of the standard revolvers used by LAPD officers.

[[Image:Smith&WessonModel14.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 14 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) holds his Smith & Wesson Model 14 on a suspect in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LAPD Officer Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) with his Smith & Wesson Model 14 drawn in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy aims his Smith & Wesson Model 14 at two suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_Farrant_log_74.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Custom Farrant stocks on Malloy’s Smith & Wesson Model 14 in "log 74" (2.21)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==

In season 4, as the real-life LAPD transitioned from 6 inch to 4 inch barrel revolvers – often Model 14 K-38’s cut down by LAPD armorers, Adam-12 changed to [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] "Combat Masterpiece" revolvers, at the same time changing to hinged “clam shell” Safety Speed holsters from the more common pouch holsters used the first three years.

Throughout the series, Pete Malloy used distinctive finger-groove grips by custom grip maker (and famous LAPD range master) Earl “Fuzzy” Farrant. Starting in season 4, Jim Reed also wore custom Farrant grips on his Mdl. 15.

[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam_12_Malloy_Reed_S&W_M-15_Cartwright_600.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Reed and Malloy protect Angela Cartwright from "Assassination" with S&W M-15 revolvers.(4.11)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==

Malloy and Reed are shown with [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] Chief's Special .38 revolvers in cross-draw holsters when off duty or in their rare plain clothes assignments.

[[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_Lewis_xdraw_log_24.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Malloy with S&W Chief’s Special in Lewis cross-draw holster “log 24” (2.17)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Reed_M-36_xdraw_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Reed with S&W Chief’s Special in cross-draw holster “log 103” (2.6)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Malloy aiming S&W Chief’s Special “log 103” (2.6)]]

==Colt Detective Special==

Many Los Angeles Police detectives are seen with [[Colt Detective Special]]s in their holsters. The Detective Special was popular with many LAPD detectives (as well as many detectives throughout the country), due to its small size ideal for concealed carry, up until 1988 when the LAPD switched over to semi-autos.

[[Image:Colt Detective Special.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Detective Special - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-CDS-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A detective (right) with his Colt Detective Special holstered in "Log 131" (1.4). It is noted as a Colt DS by its round butt.]]

==Colt Official Police==
Several criminals are armed with [[Colt Official Police]] revolvers throughout the series.
[[Image:ColtOP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Official Police - .38 Spl]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed confiscates a suspect's Colt Official Police in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A suspect aims his Colt Official Police at Malloy in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Shotguns=

==Ithaca 37==

Los Angeles Police officers, including Peter Malloy and Jim Reed, are often seen using [[Ithaca 37]] shotguns whenever they must deal with armed suspects. They are equipped with standard 4 shot magazine tubes, 18 1/2 Barrels and have Parkerized finishes. This configuration was referred to as the "LAPD Special". The Ithaca 37 was the standard shotgun for the LAPD for several decades until the late 90s, when they switched over to the Remington 870.

[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ithaca 37 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy holds his Ithaca 37 when dealing with armed suspects in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed holds his Ithaca 37 during the hostage situation in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Officer Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]) with his Ithaca 37 in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-4.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed aims his Ithaca 37 at armed suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

==Double Barreled shotgun==

Many of the armed suspects that the LAPD encounters in the show are armed with [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Double barreled shotgun]]s.

[[Image:IGA-Coach-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Double Barreled shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-DBS-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy unloads a suspect's Double barreled shotgun in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Rifles=

==Colt AR-15==
Both Reed and Malloy are seen armed with [[M16|AR-15]] rifles when part of LAPD's SWAT in "Log 14" (2.14).
[[File:Colt AR-15 Model SP1.jpg|thumb|none|450px]]
[[Image: Adam-12_Reed_AR-15_SWAT_log_14.JPG |thumb|none|450px|Reed armed with a Colt AR-15 in "S.W.A.T." "Log 14" (2.14)]]

==Remington Model 700 BDL Bolt Action Rifle==
[[Image:Remington-Model-700-BDL 308.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington Model 700 BDL]]
LAPD SWAT officers use [[Remington Model 700|Remington Model 700 BDL]] precision rifles.

[[Image:Adam-12_SWAT_Rem_700_Hostage_S2.12_2_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LAPD SWAT officer aims Remington 700 BDL in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

[[Image:Adam-12_SWAT_Rem_700_Hostage_S2.12_3_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LAPD SWAT officer aims Remington 700 BDL in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

==M1 Carbine==

Seen in the hands of a suspect in Season 4's "The Tip" (Season 4 Episode 16).

[[Image:M1c.jpg|thumb|none|450px|]]

=Miscellaneous=

==Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher==

Sergeant MacDonald ([[William Boyett]]) carries a [[Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]] in the back of his patrol car, kept with several tear gas grenades in a brown case. He often loads it up when the police are dealing with a barricaded armed suspect, usually giving it to Malloy to fire.

[[Image:Federal M201-Z Riot Gun.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]]

[[Image: A-12_Reed_gas_gun_s2.12_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy being unavailable, Reed prepares the Federal Gas Gun for Sgt. MacDonald in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Crime]]

Adam-12

2012-08-25T03:45:27Z

Sg688: /* Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher */

[[Image:Adam 12 box art.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Adam-12 (Television Series) (1968-1975)]]
'''The following weapons were used in the TV series ''Adam-12'':'''
__TOC__ 

=Revolvers=

==Smith & Wesson Model 14==
The standard sidearm for patrol officers of the Los Angeles Police Department in the series is the 6-inch barreled [[Smith & Wesson Model 14]] K-38 revolver. LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) and Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]), as well as several other police officers, are seen unholstering and firing their revolvers several times throughout the series. Many suspects are also seen using this gun. At the time, the S&W Model 14 was one of the standard revolvers used by LAPD officers.

[[Image:Smith&WessonModel14.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 14 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) holds his Smith & Wesson Model 14 on a suspect in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LAPD Officer Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) with his Smith & Wesson Model 14 drawn in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy aims his Smith & Wesson Model 14 at two suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_Farrant_log_74.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Custom Farrant stocks on Malloy’s Smith & Wesson Model 14 in "log 74" (2.21)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==

In season 4, as the real-life LAPD transitioned from 6 inch to 4 inch barrel revolvers – often Model 14 K-38’s cut down by LAPD armorers, Adam-12 changed to [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] "Combat Masterpiece" revolvers, at the same time changing to hinged “clam shell” Safety Speed holsters from the more common pouch holsters used the first three years.

Throughout the series, Pete Malloy used distinctive finger-groove grips by custom grip maker (and famous LAPD range master) Earl “Fuzzy” Farrant. Starting in season 4, Jim Reed also wore custom Farrant grips on his Mdl. 15.

[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam_12_Malloy_Reed_S&W_M-15_Cartwright_600.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Reed and Malloy protect Angela Cartwright from "Assassination" with S&W M-15 revolvers.(4.11)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==

Malloy and Reed are shown with [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] Chief's Special .38 revolvers in cross-draw holsters when off duty or in their rare plain clothes assignments.

[[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_Lewis_xdraw_log_24.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Malloy with S&W Chief’s Special in Lewis cross-draw holster “log 24” (2.17)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Reed_M-36_xdraw_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Reed with S&W Chief’s Special in cross-draw holster “log 103” (2.6)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Malloy aiming S&W Chief’s Special “log 103” (2.6)]]

==Colt Detective Special==

Many Los Angeles Police detectives are seen with [[Colt Detective Special]]s in their holsters. The Detective Special was popular with many LAPD detectives (as well as many detectives throughout the country), due to its small size ideal for concealed carry, up until 1988 when the LAPD switched over to semi-autos.

[[Image:Colt Detective Special.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Detective Special - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-CDS-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A detective (right) with his Colt Detective Special holstered in "Log 131" (1.4). It is noted as a Colt DS by its round butt.]]

==Colt Official Police==
Several criminals are armed with [[Colt Official Police]] revolvers throughout the series.
[[Image:ColtOP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Official Police - .38 Spl]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed confiscates a suspect's Colt Official Police in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A suspect aims his Colt Official Police at Malloy in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Shotguns=

==Ithaca 37==

Los Angeles Police officers, including Peter Malloy and Jim Reed, are often seen using [[Ithaca 37]] shotguns whenever they must deal with armed suspects. They are equipped with standard 4 shot magazine tubes, 18 1/2 Barrels and have Parkerized finishes. This configuration was referred to as the "LAPD Special". The Ithaca 37 was the standard shotgun for the LAPD for several decades until the late 90s, when they switched over to the Remington 870.

[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ithaca 37 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy holds his Ithaca 37 when dealing with armed suspects in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed holds his Ithaca 37 during the hostage situation in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Officer Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]) with his Ithaca 37 in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-4.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed aims his Ithaca 37 at armed suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

==Double Barreled shotgun==

Many of the armed suspects that the LAPD encounters in the show are armed with [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Double barreled shotgun]]s.

[[Image:IGA-Coach-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Double Barreled shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-DBS-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy unloads a suspect's Double barreled shotgun in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Rifles=

==Colt AR-15==
Both Reed and Malloy are seen armed with [[M16|AR-15]] rifles when part of LAPD's SWAT in "Log 14" (2.14).
[[File:Colt AR-15 Model SP1.jpg|thumb|none|450px]]
[[Image: Adam-12_Reed_AR-15_SWAT_log_14.JPG |thumb|none|450px|Reed armed with a Colt AR-15 in "S.W.A.T." "Log 14" (2.14)]]

==M1 Carbine==

Seen in the hands of a suspect in Season 4's "The Tip" (Season 4 Episode 16).

[[Image:M1c.jpg|thumb|none|450px|]]

=Miscellaneous=

==Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher==

Sergeant MacDonald ([[William Boyett]]) carries a [[Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]] in the back of his patrol car, kept with several tear gas grenades in a brown case. He often loads it up when the police are dealing with a barricaded armed suspect, usually giving it to Malloy to fire.

[[Image:Federal M201-Z Riot Gun.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]]

[[Image: A-12_Reed_gas_gun_s2.12_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy being unavailable, Reed prepares the Federal Gas Gun for Sgt. MacDonald in “Hostage” (2.12).]]

[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Crime]]

File:Adam-12 Winch 97 Hostage S2.12 sm.jpg

2012-08-25T03:30:25Z

Sg688: Adam 12

Adam 12

File:Adam-12 SWAT Rem 700 Hostage S2.12 3 sm.jpg

2012-08-25T03:30:24Z

Sg688: Adam 12

Adam 12

File:Adam-12 SWAT Rem 700 Hostage S2.12 2 sm.jpg

2012-08-25T03:30:24Z

Sg688: Adam 12

Adam 12

Adam-12

2012-08-25T03:26:45Z

Sg688: /* Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher */

[[Image:Adam 12 box art.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Adam-12 (Television Series) (1968-1975)]]
'''The following weapons were used in the TV series ''Adam-12'':'''
__TOC__ 

=Revolvers=

==Smith & Wesson Model 14==
The standard sidearm for patrol officers of the Los Angeles Police Department in the series is the 6-inch barreled [[Smith & Wesson Model 14]] K-38 revolver. LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) and Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]), as well as several other police officers, are seen unholstering and firing their revolvers several times throughout the series. Many suspects are also seen using this gun. At the time, the S&W Model 14 was one of the standard revolvers used by LAPD officers.

[[Image:Smith&WessonModel14.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 14 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) holds his Smith & Wesson Model 14 on a suspect in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LAPD Officer Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) with his Smith & Wesson Model 14 drawn in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy aims his Smith & Wesson Model 14 at two suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_Farrant_log_74.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Custom Farrant stocks on Malloy’s Smith & Wesson Model 14 in "log 74" (2.21)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==

In season 4, as the real-life LAPD transitioned from 6 inch to 4 inch barrel revolvers – often Model 14 K-38’s cut down by LAPD armorers, Adam-12 changed to [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] "Combat Masterpiece" revolvers, at the same time changing to hinged “clam shell” Safety Speed holsters from the more common pouch holsters used the first three years.

Throughout the series, Pete Malloy used distinctive finger-groove grips by custom grip maker (and famous LAPD range master) Earl “Fuzzy” Farrant. Starting in season 4, Jim Reed also wore custom Farrant grips on his Mdl. 15.

[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam_12_Malloy_Reed_S&W_M-15_Cartwright_600.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Reed and Malloy protect Angela Cartwright from "Assassination" with S&W M-15 revolvers.(4.11)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==

Malloy and Reed are shown with [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] Chief's Special .38 revolvers in cross-draw holsters when off duty or in their rare plain clothes assignments.

[[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_Lewis_xdraw_log_24.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Malloy with S&W Chief’s Special in Lewis cross-draw holster “log 24” (2.17)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Reed_M-36_xdraw_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Reed with S&W Chief’s Special in cross-draw holster “log 103” (2.6)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Malloy aiming S&W Chief’s Special “log 103” (2.6)]]

==Colt Detective Special==

Many Los Angeles Police detectives are seen with [[Colt Detective Special]]s in their holsters. The Detective Special was popular with many LAPD detectives (as well as many detectives throughout the country), due to its small size ideal for concealed carry, up until 1988 when the LAPD switched over to semi-autos.

[[Image:Colt Detective Special.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Detective Special - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-CDS-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A detective (right) with his Colt Detective Special holstered in "Log 131" (1.4). It is noted as a Colt DS by its round butt.]]

==Colt Official Police==
Several criminals are armed with [[Colt Official Police]] revolvers throughout the series.
[[Image:ColtOP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Official Police - .38 Spl]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed confiscates a suspect's Colt Official Police in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A suspect aims his Colt Official Police at Malloy in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Shotguns=

==Ithaca 37==

Los Angeles Police officers, including Peter Malloy and Jim Reed, are often seen using [[Ithaca 37]] shotguns whenever they must deal with armed suspects. They are equipped with standard 4 shot magazine tubes, 18 1/2 Barrels and have Parkerized finishes. This configuration was referred to as the "LAPD Special". The Ithaca 37 was the standard shotgun for the LAPD for several decades until the late 90s, when they switched over to the Remington 870.

[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ithaca 37 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy holds his Ithaca 37 when dealing with armed suspects in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed holds his Ithaca 37 during the hostage situation in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Officer Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]) with his Ithaca 37 in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-4.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Reed aims his Ithaca 37 at armed suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

==Double Barreled shotgun==

Many of the armed suspects that the LAPD encounters in the show are armed with [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Double barreled shotgun]]s.

[[Image:IGA-Coach-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Double Barreled shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-DBS-1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Malloy unloads a suspect's Double barreled shotgun in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Rifles=

==Colt AR-15==
Both Reed and Malloy are seen armed with [[M16|AR-15]] rifles when part of LAPD's SWAT in "Log 14" (2.14).
[[File:Colt AR-15 Model SP1.jpg|thumb|none|450px]]
[[Image: Adam-12_Reed_AR-15_SWAT_log_14.JPG |thumb|none|450px|Reed armed with a Colt AR-15 in "S.W.A.T." "Log 14" (2.14)]]

==M1 Carbine==

Seen in the hands of a suspect in Season 4's "The Tip" (Season 4 Episode 16).

[[Image:M1c.jpg|thumb|none|450px|]]

=Miscellaneous=

==Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher==

Sergeant MacDonald ([[William Boyett]]) carries a [[Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]] in the back of his patrol car, kept with several tear gas grenades in a brown case. He often loads it up when the police are dealing with a barricaded armed suspect, usually giving it to Malloy to fire.

[[Image:Federal M201-Z Riot Gun.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]]

[[Image: A-12_Reed_gas_gun_s2.12_sm.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy being unavailable, Reed prepares the Federal Gas Gun for Sgt. MacDonald in “Hostage” S2.12.]]

[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Crime]]

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2012-08-25T03:16:58Z

Sg688: Adam-12: Kent McCord with Federal Gas Gun Season 2, ep 12

Adam-12: Kent McCord with Federal Gas Gun Season 2, ep 12

Talk:High Incident

2012-07-04T00:16:03Z

Sg688:

Now, I admit, I'm going off my Memory here, and I didn't watch every episode, but I had thought that David Keith (Corporal Jim Marsh) carried a revolver on the show, as did Blair Underwood (Officer Michael Rhoades) when he joined the show. Underwood's revolver may have been a Smith & Wesson Model 686.

Also, I also recall seeing Heckler & Koch USPs carried on the show too. Maybe some day someone will be able to screencap it. - BC2009, January 18, 2012.
:This show has not been released on DVD. Until it is, I don't see how this page will ever be completed. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 09:51, 7 February 2012 (CST)

[[File: High_Incident_Vidal_HK_USP_C.jpg |400px|thumb|left|High Incident Lisa Vidal HK Compact S2]] Poor quality, but -- for reference -- H&K USP compact held by Lisa Vidal in season 2. --[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] 19:16, 3 July 2012 (CDT)

File:High Incident Vidal HK USP C.jpg

2012-07-03T23:57:02Z

Sg688:

Talk:Dragnet (1951)

2012-05-02T00:01:12Z

Sg688: Created page with "Jack Webb as Sgt. Joe Friday in the 1951 edition of Dragnet carried a Colt Detective Special. My screen caps are not of adequate quality, but here are two. --~~~~ [[File: Dragnet..."

File:Dragnet Friday Colt DS clean 1.JPG

2012-05-01T23:51:29Z

Sg688:

File:Dragnet Friday Colt DS BG 53.JPG

2012-05-01T23:49:52Z

Sg688:

Talk:Bullitt

2012-04-06T01:38:50Z

Sg688: /* The Colt .45. */

== The Colt .45. ==

Is it a M1911A1 or a World War 1 issued M1911?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

[[Image:Blt-1911-3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Johnny Ross lies dead next to his 1911.]]

Well it's hard to make out from the screen shot but I ''believe'' that I can see the arched mainspring housing on the grip. Making it the 1911A1. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

By the way good job [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] in adding the screenshots. I don't have the ability to do that myself and it really adds alot to the page. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

Thanks! It was tough to find clear enough shots but these should help for identification purposes. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

I think you're right about the curved mainspring housing. Furthermore, the beavertail looks like the longer one from the A1. --[[User:Redram355|redram355]] 17:28, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Star mdl B --[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] 20:38, 5 April 2012 (CDT)

== Diamondback with Detective Special Grips. Comparison ==
The top gun is the Python. Note the flared grip with the very flat bottom and sharp edges. Below this is the Diamondback. The factory issue grips for the Diamondback are slightly smaller versions of those for the Python. this gun has been fitted with the rounded Detective Special grips like the ones on the gun in Bullitt. The bottom gun is the Detective Special that every TV and movie cop and bad guy carried in the 1940's and 1950's. You can see that the factory grips on this gun are the rounded style like on the Diamondback. Colt never made this style of grip for the Python.[http://stvmcqueen.tripod.com/questions7.html]--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 01:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

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== Winchester 1897 shotgun ==

The shotgun is definitively a 12 gauge. When the hit man is loading shells during the car chase, they are red in color. Sixteen gauge shells would be purple, and 20 gauge shells would be yellow. Twenty-eight gauge shells might be red, but they would be noticeably smaller in size.

something interesting, on a radio show I listen to Michael Madsen claims that he owns the 1897 they used in this movie.

Talk:Dragnet (1967)

2012-03-31T02:02:27Z

Sg688:

Joe Friday's carry gun is the Smith & Wesson Model 36 Chief's Special. In episode 21, "The Shooting Board", Sgt Friday shoots and kills a laundromat burglar who fires first on Friday. In one scene Sgt Friday is asked for his gun so SID, Scientific Investigation Division, can do ballistics tests on it. We see a profile of the gun in Friday's hand with Friday saying something like, "Hear is my Smith & Wesson revolver,". From that episode and scene, I conclude his carry piece must be a model 36. In the brief shot where we see Friday's gun in profile, it has the distinct thin grip of the Smith & Wesson. This distinguishes it from the Colt Detective Special so many claim Friday carried. To my knowledge his gun is never completely identified in the series.
:In the picture below, however, it looks like there are six shots in the cylinder. That would make it a [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] snub. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:35, 10 December 2011 (CST)
[[Image:S%26WModel10Snub.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 10 snub nose revolver - .38 Special. Same frame, but with smaller grips and 2 inch barrel.]]
[[Image:Dragn67 3.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

In the 1960's Dragnet, Joe Friday does carry a Smith & Wesson model 10, as he did in the 1950's movie. In the 1950's version of the Dragnet TV show, he carried a Colt Detective Special.
--[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] 00:12, 25 March 2012 (CDT)

Excellent finding a stock photo of the Colt Officers Model Special, but it is a separate model. The specific model shown is the Officers Model Match. Picky, Picky. --[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] 19:01, 27 March 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Dragnet (1967)

2012-03-28T00:01:35Z

Sg688:

Joe Friday's carry gun is the Smith & Wesson Model 36 Chief's Special. In episode 21, "The Shooting Board", Sgt Friday shoots and kills a laundromat burglar who fires first on Friday. In one scene Sgt Friday is asked for his gun so SID, Scientific Investigation Division, can do ballistics tests on it. We see a profile of the gun in Friday's hand with Friday saying something like, "Hear is my Smith & Wesson revolver,". From that episode and scene, I conclude his carry piece must be a model 36. In the brief shot where we see Friday's gun in profile, it has the distinct thin grip of the Smith & Wesson. This distinguishes it from the Colt Detective Special so many claim Friday carried. To my knowledge his gun is never completely identified in the series.
:In the picture below, however, it looks like there are six shots in the cylinder. That would make it a [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] snub. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:35, 10 December 2011 (CST)
[[Image:S%26WModel10Snub.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 10 snub nose revolver - .38 Special. Same frame, but with smaller grips and 2 inch barrel.]]
[[Image:Dragn67 3.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]

In the 1960's Dragnet, Joe Friday does carry a Smith & Wesson model 10, as he did in the 1950's movie. In the 1950's version of the Dragnet TV show, he carried a Colt Detective Special.
--[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] 00:12, 25 March 2012 (CDT)

Excellent finding a stock photo of the Colt Officers Model Special, but it is a separate model from the plain Officers Model. Picky, Picky. --[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] 19:01, 27 March 2012 (CDT)

Talk:Blue Bloods

2012-03-27T02:48:20Z

Sg688:

In an Episode, his partner, Jackie is taken hostage and Danny pulls his Kahr K9. --[[User:Thomas|Thomas]] 03:24, 20 November 2011 (CST)

==Proper gun safety==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_CaerYv28Q same Kahr that he carries i presume.

==Colt Government vs Colt M1911A1==
Is there a reason that this is listed as two separate items? I realize that not all 1911's are the same, but from the screen caps, I can't definitively differentiate the two included here. -[[User:Oldwindways|Oldwindways]]

== Grandpa Reagan's Revolver ==

I forget the episode but in the first season, after the youngest Reagan was shot, Grandpa Reagan takes of his jacket to reveal a revolver tucked into his wastband. Though it's never seen clearly I would guess it was a [[Smith & Wesson Model 10|S&W Model 10]]. The one thing that caught my eye was he seemed to have the grip covered butt to frame in rubber bands. To help with the grip perhaps? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:37, 25 February 2012 (CST)

Is this the revolver you mentioned? Its not a great shot, but I don't think there is ever a particularly clear view of it. My guess would be that the stocks are wrapped is some sort of tape, not rubber bands. The medallion on the stocks suggests possibly a [[Smith & Wesson]], but it is not unheard of for a [[Colt's Manufacturing Company|Colt]] to have medallions as well. -[[User:Oldwindways|Oldwindways]] 04:32, 27 February, 2012 (EST)[[File:Blue Bloods Revolver Screen Shot.jpg|thumb|none|500px| Henry Reagan ([[Len Cariou]]) reveals his revolver (unknown make/model) in Season 1's "Dedication" (S1E15).]]

Back in grandpa Reagan's time, putting rubber bands around the butt of your revolver helped keep it from sliding down your pants, if you were carrying it in your waistband 'Mexican" style, while doing undercover work.
Regards,
Tecolote

:Using rubber bands was the predecessor to Pachmayer and Houge rubber grips as well. I believe that Pachmayer introduced the Presentation grip in the late sixties. Probably as a response to those folks who were using rubber bands and inntertubes to help give them a better grip and help with recoil control. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:34, 27 February 2012 (CST)

==Fitz Special==

Although Fitzgerald Specials were also made on the Official Police frame, I think the Commisioner Reagan's revolver is the smaller D frame Detective Special.--[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] 19:24, 25 March 2012 (CDT)

Possible but Selleck has large hands and that in conjunction with the forced perspective that cameras can impart it's hard to say. I wish we had some better screenshots of it. for now lets leave it with the OP. However I did add a coupple images of Detective Special Fitz models to the [[Colt Detective Special]] page. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 11:23, 26 March 2012 (CDT)
[[File:Blue_bloods_colt_d_2.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px| Tom Selleck with Colt D frame Fitz Special s1. "Take your hands off my daughter."]]

The OP and I caught nearly identical screen shots. Adjusting the brightness and contrast shows the trigger guard profile which is more oval on the DS than the OP. Selleck likes .45's; he should have a New Service Fitz! All in the spirit... Thanks. --[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] 21:48, 26 March 2012 (CDT)

[[File:Blue_Bloods_Colt_Fitz_ep_4_cr.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Blue Bloods - Colt Fitz in holster 1:4]]

File:Blue Bloods Colt Fitz ep 4 cr.jpg

2012-03-27T02:35:33Z

Sg688: Blue Bloods 1:4 Colt Fitz in holster

Blue Bloods 1:4 Colt Fitz in holster

Talk:Blue Bloods

2012-03-26T00:32:18Z

Sg688:

In an Episode, his partner, Jackie is taken hostage and Danny pulls his Kahr K9. --[[User:Thomas|Thomas]] 03:24, 20 November 2011 (CST)

==Proper gun safety==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_CaerYv28Q same Kahr that he carries i presume.

==Colt Government vs Colt M1911A1==
Is there a reason that this is listed as two separate items? I realize that not all 1911's are the same, but from the screen caps, I can't definitively differentiate the two included here. -[[User:Oldwindways|Oldwindways]]

== Grandpa Reagan's Revolver ==

I forget the episode but in the first season, after the youngest Reagan was shot, Grandpa Reagan takes of his jacket to reveal a revolver tucked into his wastband. Though it's never seen clearly I would guess it was a [[Smith & Wesson Model 10|S&W Model 10]]. The one thing that caught my eye was he seemed to have the grip covered butt to frame in rubber bands. To help with the grip perhaps? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:37, 25 February 2012 (CST)

Is this the revolver you mentioned? Its not a great shot, but I don't think there is ever a particularly clear view of it. My guess would be that the stocks are wrapped is some sort of tape, not rubber bands. The medallion on the stocks suggests possibly a [[Smith & Wesson]], but it is not unheard of for a [[Colt's Manufacturing Company|Colt]] to have medallions as well. -[[User:Oldwindways|Oldwindways]] 04:32, 27 February, 2012 (EST)[[File:Blue Bloods Revolver Screen Shot.jpg|thumb|none|500px| Henry Reagan ([[Len Cariou]]) reveals his revolver (unknown make/model) in Season 1's "Dedication" (S1E15).]]

Back in grandpa Reagan's time, putting rubber bands around the butt of your revolver helped keep it from sliding down your pants, if you were carrying it in your waistband 'Mexican" style, while doing undercover work.
Regards,
Tecolote

:Using rubber bands was the predecessor to Pachmayer and Houge rubber grips as well. I believe that Pachmayer introduced the Presentation grip in the late sixties. Probably as a response to those folks who were using rubber bands and inntertubes to help give them a better grip and help with recoil control. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:34, 27 February 2012 (CST)

==Fitz Special==

Although Fitzgerald Specials were also made on the Official Police frame, I think the Commisioner Reagan's revolver is the smaller D frame Detective Special.--[[User:Sg688|Sg688]] 19:24, 25 March 2012 (CDT)
[[File:Blue_bloods_colt_d_2.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px| Tom Selleck with Colt D frame Fitz Special s1.]]

File:Blue bloods colt d 2.jpg

2012-03-26T00:27:24Z

Sg688: Blue Bloods Colt Fitz Special season 1

Blue Bloods Colt Fitz Special season 1

Talk:Blue Bloods

2012-03-26T00:24:31Z

Sg688:

Dragnet (1967)

2012-03-25T16:31:10Z

Sg688:

[[Image:Dragn67 2.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Dragnet''(1967-1970)]]

''Dragnet'' is the second television series incarnation featuring [[Jack Webb]] as LAPD Detective Sergeant Joe Friday. In this version of the series, [[Harry Morgan]] co-starred as his partner Bill Gannon. A comedic [[Dragnet (1987)|feature film adaptation]] of the series starring [[Dan Aykroyd]] and [[Tom Hanks]] was released in 1987 and a more serious television [[Dragnet (2003)|remake]] starring [[Ed O'Neill]] as Joe Friday was broadcast in 2003.

'''The following firearms were used in the 1967 series ''Dragnet'':'''

__TOC__ 

==Smith & Wesson Model 10 (snub)==
The [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] snub revolver is the sidearm carried by Sgt. Joe Friday ([[Jack Webb]]). In Season 2's "The Shooting Board" (S2E21), Sgt. Friday uses his S&W when confronting a robbery suspect at a laundromat. When asked to give up his weapon for tests, Friday hands it over and the profile of the gun is seen. Friday mentions that it is his Smith & Wesson revolver.
[[Image:S%26WModel10Snub.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 10 snub nose revolver - .38 Special. Same frame, but with smaller grips and 2 inch barrel.]]
[[Image:Dragn67 3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|In Season 2's "The Shooting Board" (S2E21), Sgt. Joe Friday ([[Jack Webb]]) uses his S&W when confronting a robbery suspect at a laundromat.]]
[[Image:Dragn67 5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Friday with his revolver.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==
[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] .38 Special]]
Friday's partner, Officer Bill Gannon ([[Harry Morgan]]) carried a 4 inch barrel [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] "Combat Masterpiece" revolver.

==Smith & Wesson Model 27==
A [[Smith & Wesson Model 27]] is seen being fired on the range in Season 2's "The Shooting Board".
[[Image:S&WModel27Long.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
[[Image:Dragn67 02.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A [[Smith & Wesson Model 27]] is seen being fired on the range in Season 2's "The Shooting Board".]]

==Colt Officers Model==
A Colt Officers Model .38 with custom Farrant stocks is shown being loaded on the range in Season 2's "The Shooting Board".
[[Image:Dragnet_Colt_Farrant_Shooting_Board_2_2.JPG‎|thumb|none|400px]]

==Colt New Service==
The suspect who exchanges gunfire with Friday in "The Shooting Board" uses what appears to be a [[Colt New Service]].
[[File:ColtNewService1917.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
[[Image:Dragn67 4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The suspect who exchanges gunfire with Friday in "The Shooting Board" uses what appears to be a [[Colt New Service]].]]

==Ithaca 37==
Sgt. Joe Friday is seen using an [[Ithaca 37]] shotgun in Season 1's "The Shooting" (S1E11). Friday narrates going to the property room and checking out an Ithaca 37 Shotgun and 5 rounds of 00 Magnum Buckshot. The episode was about the hunt for suspect who shot an officer in the Line of Duty. The Ithaca is carried when Friday and Gannon (Harry Morgan) go to make the arrest of the suspect. The shotgun used is the LAPD Special Ithaca- 18 1/2" barrel, 4 shot mag tube, Rifle Sights, and Parkerized finish.
[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ithaca 37]]
[[Image:Dragnet_Ithaca_1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sgt. Joe Friday checking out the Ithaca 37 in Season 1's "The Shooting" (S1E11).]]
[[Image:Dragnet_Ithaca_3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Friday entering the hotel room armed with the Ithaca 37.]]
[[Image:Dragnet_Ithaca_4c.jpg|thumb|none|400px|"Flinch and you'll be chasing your head down 5th Street!" Friday holds the Ithaca 37 on the suspect.]]
[[Image:Dragnet_ithaca_5b.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Friday holding the Ithaca as Gannon pats down the suspect.]]

==12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun (sawed-off)==
In Season 1's "The Shooting" (S1E11), a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] is suspected to have been used in the shooting of an LAPD officer. Friday is seen holding the shotgun as he interrogates the suspects.
[[File:RemingtonSPR220Cowboy.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:DragnS111 02.jpg|thumb|none|400px|In Season 1's "The Shooting" (S1E11), Friday is seen holding the shotgun as he interrogates the suspects.]]

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[[Category:Crime]]
[[Category:Detective]]

Harry Morgan

2012-03-25T16:27:51Z

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[[Image:Dragnet_Morgan_01.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Harry Morgan (1915-2011) as Captain Bill Gannon in ''[[Dragnet (1987) | Dragnet]]''.]]

'''Harry Morgan can be seen using the following firearms in the following films and television shows:'''

==Film==
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Gun'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="325"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Single Action Army]] ||Marshall Thibido || ''[[The Shootist]]'' || || 1977
|}

==Television==
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Gun'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="325"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] || Det. Bill Gannon || ''[[Dragnet (1967)|Dragnet]]'' || || 1967-1970
|-
| [[Star Model B]] || Maj. Gen. Bartford Hamilton Steele || ''[[M*A*S*H (TV Series)|M*A*S*H]]'' || || 1974
|-
| [[Star Model B]] || Col. Sherman Potter || ''[[M*A*S*H (TV Series)|M*A*S*H]]'' || substitute for the [[M1911A1]]|| 1974-1983
|}

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[[Category:Actor Male]]
[[Category:Deceased Actor]]

Dragnet (1967)

2012-03-25T16:06:25Z

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[[Image:Dragn67 2.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Dragnet''(1967-1970)]]

''Dragnet'' is the second television series incarnation featuring [[Jack Webb]] as LAPD Detective Sergeant Joe Friday. In this version of the series, [[Harry Morgan]] co-starred as his partner Bill Gannon. A comedic [[Dragnet (1987)|feature film adaptation]] of the series starring [[Dan Aykroyd]] and [[Tom Hanks]] was released in 1987 and a more serious television [[Dragnet (2003)|remake]] starring [[Ed O'Neill]] as Joe Friday was broadcast in 2003.

'''The following firearms were used in the 1967 series ''Dragnet'':'''

__TOC__ 

==Smith & Wesson Model 10 (snub)==
The [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] snub revolver is the sidearm carried by Sgt. Joe Friday ([[Jack Webb]]). In Season 2's "The Shooting Board" (S2E21), Sgt. Friday uses his S&W when confronting a robbery suspect at a laundromat. When asked to give up his weapon for tests, Friday hands it over and the profile of the gun is seen. Friday mentions that it is his Smith & Wesson revolver.
[[Image:S%26WModel10Snub.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 10 snub nose revolver - .38 Special. Same frame, but with smaller grips and 2 inch barrel.]]
[[Image:Dragn67 3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|In Season 2's "The Shooting Board" (S2E21), Sgt. Joe Friday ([[Jack Webb]]) uses his S&W when confronting a robbery suspect at a laundromat.]]
[[Image:Dragn67 5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Friday with his revolver.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==
[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] .38 Special]]
Friday's partner, Officer Bill Gannon carried a 4 inch barrel [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] "Combat Masterpiece" revolver.

==Smith & Wesson Model 27==
A [[Smith & Wesson Model 27]] is seen being fired on the range in Season 2's "The Shooting Board".
[[Image:S&WModel27Long.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
[[Image:Dragn67 02.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A [[Smith & Wesson Model 27]] is seen being fired on the range in Season 2's "The Shooting Board".]]

==Colt Officers Model==
A Colt Officers Model .38 with custom Farrant stocks is shown being loaded on the range in Season 2's "The Shooting Board".
[[Image:Dragnet_Colt_Farrant_Shooting_Board_2_2.JPG‎|thumb|none|400px]]

==Colt New Service==
The suspect who exchanges gunfire with Friday in "The Shooting Board" uses what appears to be a [[Colt New Service]].
[[File:ColtNewService1917.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
[[Image:Dragn67 4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The suspect who exchanges gunfire with Friday in "The Shooting Board" uses what appears to be a [[Colt New Service]].]]

==Ithaca 37==
Sgt. Joe Friday is seen using an [[Ithaca 37]] shotgun in Season 1's "The Shooting" (S1E11). Friday narrates going to the property room and checking out an Ithaca 37 Shotgun and 5 rounds of 00 Magnum Buckshot. The episode was about the hunt for suspect who shot an officer in the Line of Duty. The Ithaca is carried when Friday and Gannon (Harry Morgan) go to make the arrest of the suspect. The shotgun used is the LAPD Special Ithaca- 18 1/2" barrel, 4 shot mag tube, Rifle Sights, and Parkerized finish.
[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ithaca 37]]
[[Image:Dragnet_Ithaca_1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sgt. Joe Friday checking out the Ithaca 37 in Season 1's "The Shooting" (S1E11).]]
[[Image:Dragnet_Ithaca_3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Friday entering the hotel room armed with the Ithaca 37.]]
[[Image:Dragnet_Ithaca_4c.jpg|thumb|none|400px|"Flinch and you'll be chasing your head down 5th Street!" Friday holds the Ithaca 37 on the suspect.]]
[[Image:Dragnet_ithaca_5b.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Friday holding the Ithaca as Gannon pats down the suspect.]]

==12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun (sawed-off)==
In Season 1's "The Shooting" (S1E11), a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] is suspected to have been used in the shooting of an LAPD officer. Friday is seen holding the shotgun as he interrogates the suspects.
[[File:RemingtonSPR220Cowboy.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:DragnS111 02.jpg|thumb|none|400px|In Season 1's "The Shooting" (S1E11), Friday is seen holding the shotgun as he interrogates the suspects.]]

[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Crime]]
[[Category:Detective]]

File:Dragnet Colt Farrant Shooting Board 2 2.JPG

2012-03-25T15:46:54Z

Sg688: Colt Officers Model .38 Spl Revolver with Farrant stocks shown in opening firing range scene of Dragnet "Shooting Board" season 2, episone 2.

Colt Officers Model .38 Spl Revolver with Farrant stocks shown in opening firing range scene of Dragnet "Shooting Board" season 2, episone 2.

Dragnet (1967)

2012-03-25T15:29:17Z

Sg688:

[[Image:Dragn67 2.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Dragnet''(1967-1970)]]

''Dragnet'' is the second television series incarnation featuring [[Jack Webb]] as LAPD Detective Sergeant Joe Friday. In this version of the series, [[Harry Morgan]] co-starred as his partner Bill Gannon. A comedic [[Dragnet (1987)|feature film adaptation]] of the series starring [[Dan Aykroyd]] and [[Tom Hanks]] was released in 1987 and a more serious television [[Dragnet (2003)|remake]] starring [[Ed O'Neill]] as Joe Friday was broadcast in 2003.

'''The following firearms were used in the 1967 series ''Dragnet'':'''

__TOC__ 

==Smith & Wesson Model 10 (snub)==
The [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] snub revolver is the sidearm carried by Sgt. Joe Friday ([[Jack Webb]]). In Season 2's "The Shooting Board" (S2E21), Sgt. Friday uses his S&W when confronting a robbery suspect at a laundromat. When asked to give up his weapon for tests, Friday hands it over and the profile of the gun is seen. Friday mentions that it is his Smith & Wesson revolver.
[[Image:S%26WModel10Snub.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 10 snub nose revolver - .38 Special. Same frame, but with smaller grips and 2 inch barrel.]]
[[Image:Dragn67 3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|In Season 2's "The Shooting Board" (S2E21), Sgt. Joe Friday ([[Jack Webb]]) uses his S&W when confronting a robbery suspect at a laundromat.]]
[[Image:Dragn67 5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Friday with his revolver.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==
[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] .38 Special]]
Friday's partner, Officer Bill Gannon carried a 4 inch barrel [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] "Combat Masterpiece" revolver.

==Smith & Wesson Model 27==
A [[Smith & Wesson Model 27]] is seen being fired on the range in Season 2's "The Shooting Board".
[[Image:S&WModel27Long.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
[[Image:Dragn67 02.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A [[Smith & Wesson Model 27]] is seen being fired on the range in Season 2's "The Shooting Board".]]

==Colt New Service==
The suspect who exchanges gunfire with Friday in "The Shooting Board" uses what appears to be a [[Colt New Service]].
[[File:ColtNewService1917.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
[[Image:Dragn67 4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The suspect who exchanges gunfire with Friday in "The Shooting Board" uses what appears to be a [[Colt New Service]].]]

==Ithaca 37==
Sgt. Joe Friday is seen using an [[Ithaca 37]] shotgun in Season 1's "The Shooting" (S1E11). Friday narrates going to the property room and checking out an Ithaca 37 Shotgun and 5 rounds of 00 Magnum Buckshot. The episode was about the hunt for suspect who shot an officer in the Line of Duty. The Ithaca is carried when Friday and Gannon (Harry Morgan) go to make the arrest of the suspect. The shotgun used is the LAPD Special Ithaca- 18 1/2" barrel, 4 shot mag tube, Rifle Sights, and Parkerized finish.
[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ithaca 37]]
[[Image:Dragnet_Ithaca_1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sgt. Joe Friday checking out the Ithaca 37 in Season 1's "The Shooting" (S1E11).]]
[[Image:Dragnet_Ithaca_3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Friday entering the hotel room armed with the Ithaca 37.]]
[[Image:Dragnet_Ithaca_4c.jpg|thumb|none|400px|"Flinch and you'll be chasing your head down 5th Street!" Friday holds the Ithaca 37 on the suspect.]]
[[Image:Dragnet_ithaca_5b.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Friday holding the Ithaca as Gannon pats down the suspect.]]

==12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun (sawed-off)==
In Season 1's "The Shooting" (S1E11), a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] is suspected to have been used in the shooting of an LAPD officer. Friday is seen holding the shotgun as he interrogates the suspects.
[[File:RemingtonSPR220Cowboy.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:DragnS111 02.jpg|thumb|none|400px|In Season 1's "The Shooting" (S1E11), Friday is seen holding the shotgun as he interrogates the suspects.]]

[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Crime]]
[[Category:Detective]]

Talk:Dragnet (1967)

2012-03-25T05:12:58Z

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Talk:Dragnet (1967)

2012-03-25T05:10:00Z

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Adam-12

2010-06-15T23:39:30Z

Sg688: /* Colt AR-15 */

[[Image:Adam 12 box art.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Adam-12 (Television Series) (1968-1975)]]
'''The following weapons were used in the TV series ''Adam-12'':'''
__TOC__ 

=Revolvers=

==Smith & Wesson Model 14==

The standard sidearm for the Los Angeles Police Department is the 6-inch barreled [[Smith & Wesson Model 14]] K-38 revolver. LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) and Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]), as well as several other police officers, are seen unholstering and firing their revolvers several times throughout the series. Many suspects are also seen using this gun. At the time, the S&W Model 14 was one of the standard revolvers used by LAPD officers.

[[Image:Smith&WessonModel14.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 14 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy holds his Smith & Wesson Model 14 on a suspect in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LAPD Officer Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) with his Smith & Wesson Model 14 drawn in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy aims his Smith & Wesson Model 14 at two suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_Farrant_log_74.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Custom Farrant stocks on Malloy’s Smith & Wesson Model 14 in "log 74" (2.21)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==

In season 4, as the real-life LAPD transitioned from 6 inch to 4 inch barrel revolvers – often Model 14 K-38’s cut down by LAPD armorers, Adam-12 changed to [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] "Combat Masterpiece" revolvers, at the same time changing to hinged “clam shell” Safety Speed holsters from the more common pouch holsters used the first three years.

Throughout the series, Pete Malloy used distinctive finger-groove grips by custom grip maker (and famous LAPD range master) Earl “Fuzzy” Farrant. Starting in season 4, Jim Reed also wore custom Farrant grips on his Mdl. 15.

[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam_12_Malloy_Reed_S&W_M-15_Cartwright_600.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Reed and Malloy protect Angela Cartwright from "Assassination" with S&W M-15 revolvers.(4.11)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==

Malloy and Reed are shown with [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] Chief's Special .38 revolvers in cross-draw holsters when off duty or in their rare plain clothes assignments.

[[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_Lewis_xdraw_log_24.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Malloy with S&W Chief’s Special in Lewis cross-draw holster “log 24” (2.17)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Reed_M-36_xdraw_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Reed with S&W Chief’s Special in cross-draw holster “log 103” (2.6)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Malloy aiming S&W Chief’s Special “log 103” (2.6)]]

==Colt Detective Special==

Many Los Angeles Police detectives are seen with [[Colt Detective Special]]s in their holsters. The Detective Special was popular with many LAPD detectives (as well as many detectives throughout the country), due to its small size ideal for concealed carry, up until 1988 when the LAPD switched over to semi-autos.

[[Image:Colt Detective Special.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Detective Special - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-CDS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A detective (right) with his Colt Detective Special holstered in "Log 131" (1.4). It is noted as a Colt DS by its round butt.]]

==Colt Official Police==
Several criminals are armed with [[Colt Official Police]]s throughout the series.
[[Image:ColtOP5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Official Police - .38 Spl]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed confiscates a suspect's Colt Official Police in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A suspect aims his Colt Official Police at Malloy in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Shotguns=

==Ithaca 37==

Los Angeles Police officers, including Peter Malloy and Jim Reed, are often seen using [[Ithaca 37]] shotguns whenever they must deal with armed suspects. They are equipped with standard magazine tubes. The Ithaca 37 was the standard shotgun for the LAPD for several decades until the late 90s, when they switched over to the Remington 870.

[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ithaca 37 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy holds his Ithaca 37 when dealing with armed suspects in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed holds his Ithaca 37 during the hostage situation in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]) with his Ithaca 37 in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed aims his Ithaca 37 at armed suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

==Double Barreled shotgun==

Many of the armed suspects that the LAPD encounters in the show are armed with [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Double barreled shotgun]]s.

[[Image:IGA-Coach-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Double Barreled shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-DBS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy unloads a suspect's Double barreled shotgun in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Rifles=

==Colt AR-15==

S.W.A.T.

[[Image: Adam-12_Reed_AR-15_SWAT_log_14.JPG |thumb|none|600px|Reed armed with a Colt AR-15 in "S.W.A.T." "log 14" (2.14)]]

=Miscellaneous=

==Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher==

Sergeant MacDonald carries a [[Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]] in the back of his patrol car, kept with several tear gas grenades in a brown case. He often loads it up when the police are dealing with a barricaded armed suspect, usually giving it to Malloy to fire.

[[Image:Federal M201-Z Riot Gun.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]]

[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Crime]]

Adam-12

2010-06-15T01:02:51Z

Sg688: /* Colt AR-15 */

[[Image:Adam 12 box art.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Adam-12 (Television Series) (1968-1975)]]
'''The following weapons were used in the TV series ''Adam-12'':'''
__TOC__ 

=Revolvers=

==Smith & Wesson Model 14==

The standard sidearm for the Los Angeles Police Department is the 6-inch barreled [[Smith & Wesson Model 14]] K-38 revolver. LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) and Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]), as well as several other police officers, are seen unholstering and firing their revolvers several times throughout the series. Many suspects are also seen using this gun. At the time, the S&W Model 14 was one of the standard revolvers used by LAPD officers.

[[Image:Smith&WessonModel14.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 14 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy holds his Smith & Wesson Model 14 on a suspect in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LAPD Officer Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) with his Smith & Wesson Model 14 drawn in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy aims his Smith & Wesson Model 14 at two suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_Farrant_log_74.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Custom Farrant stocks on Malloy’s Smith & Wesson Model 14 in "log 74" (2.21)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==

In season 4, as the real-life LAPD transitioned from 6 inch to 4 inch barrel revolvers – often Model 14 K-38’s cut down by LAPD armorers, Adam-12 changed to [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] "Combat Masterpiece" revolvers, at the same time changing to hinged “clam shell” Safety Speed holsters from the more common pouch holsters used the first three years.

Throughout the series, Pete Malloy used distinctive finger-groove grips by custom grip maker (and famous LAPD range master) Earl “Fuzzy” Farrant. Starting in season 4, Jim Reed also wore custom Farrant grips on his Mdl. 15.

[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam_12_Malloy_Reed_S&W_M-15_Cartwright_600.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Reed and Malloy protect Angela Cartwright from "Assassination" with S&W M-15 revolvers.(4.11)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==

Malloy and Reed are shown with [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] Chief's Special .38 revolvers in cross-draw holsters when off duty or in their rare plain clothes assignments.

[[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_Lewis_xdraw_log_24.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Malloy with S&W Chief’s Special in Lewis cross-draw holster “log 24” (2.17)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Reed_M-36_xdraw_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Reed with S&W Chief’s Special in cross-draw holster “log 103” (2.6)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Malloy aiming S&W Chief’s Special “log 103” (2.6)]]

==Colt Detective Special==

Many Los Angeles Police detectives are seen with [[Colt Detective Special]]s in their holsters. The Detective Special was popular with many LAPD detectives (as well as many detectives throughout the country), due to its small size ideal for concealed carry, up until 1988 when the LAPD switched over to semi-autos.

[[Image:Colt Detective Special.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Detective Special - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-CDS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A detective (right) with his Colt Detective Special holstered in "Log 131" (1.4). It is noted as a Colt DS by its round butt.]]

==Colt Official Police==
Several criminals are armed with [[Colt Official Police]]s throughout the series.
[[Image:ColtOP5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Official Police - .38 Spl]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed confiscates a suspect's Colt Official Police in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A suspect aims his Colt Official Police at Malloy in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Shotguns=

==Ithaca 37==

Los Angeles Police officers, including Peter Malloy and Jim Reed, are often seen using [[Ithaca 37]] shotguns whenever they must deal with armed suspects. They are equipped with standard magazine tubes. The Ithaca 37 was the standard shotgun for the LAPD for several decades until the late 90s, when they switched over to the Remington 870.

[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ithaca 37 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy holds his Ithaca 37 when dealing with armed suspects in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed holds his Ithaca 37 during the hostage situation in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]) with his Ithaca 37 in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed aims his Ithaca 37 at armed suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

==Double Barreled shotgun==

Many of the armed suspects that the LAPD encounters in the show are armed with [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Double barreled shotgun]]s.

[[Image:IGA-Coach-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Double Barreled shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-DBS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy unloads a suspect's Double barreled shotgun in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Rifles=

==Colt AR-15==

S.W.A.T.

[[Image: Adam-12_Reed_AR-15_SWAT_log_14.JPG |thumb|none|600px|Reed armed with an AR-15 in "S.W.A.T." "log 14" (2.14)]]

=Miscellaneous=

==Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher==

Sergeant MacDonald carries a [[Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]] in the back of his patrol car, kept with several tear gas grenades in a brown case. He often loads it up when the police are dealing with a barricaded armed suspect, usually giving it to Malloy to fire.

[[Image:Federal M201-Z Riot Gun.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]]

[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Crime]]

Adam-12

2010-06-15T00:59:59Z

Sg688: /* Colt AR-15 */

[[Image:Adam 12 box art.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Adam-12 (Television Series) (1968-1975)]]
'''The following weapons were used in the TV series ''Adam-12'':'''
__TOC__ 

=Revolvers=

==Smith & Wesson Model 14==

The standard sidearm for the Los Angeles Police Department is the 6-inch barreled [[Smith & Wesson Model 14]] K-38 revolver. LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) and Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]), as well as several other police officers, are seen unholstering and firing their revolvers several times throughout the series. Many suspects are also seen using this gun. At the time, the S&W Model 14 was one of the standard revolvers used by LAPD officers.

[[Image:Smith&WessonModel14.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 14 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy holds his Smith & Wesson Model 14 on a suspect in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LAPD Officer Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) with his Smith & Wesson Model 14 drawn in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy aims his Smith & Wesson Model 14 at two suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_Farrant_log_74.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Custom Farrant stocks on Malloy’s Smith & Wesson Model 14 in "log 74" (2.21)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==

In season 4, as the real-life LAPD transitioned from 6 inch to 4 inch barrel revolvers – often Model 14 K-38’s cut down by LAPD armorers, Adam-12 changed to [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] "Combat Masterpiece" revolvers, at the same time changing to hinged “clam shell” Safety Speed holsters from the more common pouch holsters used the first three years.

Throughout the series, Pete Malloy used distinctive finger-groove grips by custom grip maker (and famous LAPD range master) Earl “Fuzzy” Farrant. Starting in season 4, Jim Reed also wore custom Farrant grips on his Mdl. 15.

[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam_12_Malloy_Reed_S&W_M-15_Cartwright_600.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Reed and Malloy protect Angela Cartwright from "Assassination" with S&W M-15 revolvers.(4.11)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==

Malloy and Reed are shown with [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] Chief's Special .38 revolvers in cross-draw holsters when off duty or in their rare plain clothes assignments.

[[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_Lewis_xdraw_log_24.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Malloy with S&W Chief’s Special in Lewis cross-draw holster “log 24” (2.17)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Reed_M-36_xdraw_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Reed with S&W Chief’s Special in cross-draw holster “log 103” (2.6)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Malloy aiming S&W Chief’s Special “log 103” (2.6)]]

==Colt Detective Special==

Many Los Angeles Police detectives are seen with [[Colt Detective Special]]s in their holsters. The Detective Special was popular with many LAPD detectives (as well as many detectives throughout the country), due to its small size ideal for concealed carry, up until 1988 when the LAPD switched over to semi-autos.

[[Image:Colt Detective Special.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Detective Special - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-CDS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A detective (right) with his Colt Detective Special holstered in "Log 131" (1.4). It is noted as a Colt DS by its round butt.]]

==Colt Official Police==
Several criminals are armed with [[Colt Official Police]]s throughout the series.
[[Image:ColtOP5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Official Police - .38 Spl]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed confiscates a suspect's Colt Official Police in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A suspect aims his Colt Official Police at Malloy in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Shotguns=

==Ithaca 37==

Los Angeles Police officers, including Peter Malloy and Jim Reed, are often seen using [[Ithaca 37]] shotguns whenever they must deal with armed suspects. They are equipped with standard magazine tubes. The Ithaca 37 was the standard shotgun for the LAPD for several decades until the late 90s, when they switched over to the Remington 870.

[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ithaca 37 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy holds his Ithaca 37 when dealing with armed suspects in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed holds his Ithaca 37 during the hostage situation in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]) with his Ithaca 37 in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed aims his Ithaca 37 at armed suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

==Double Barreled shotgun==

Many of the armed suspects that the LAPD encounters in the show are armed with [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Double barreled shotgun]]s.

[[Image:IGA-Coach-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Double Barreled shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-DBS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy unloads a suspect's Double barreled shotgun in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Rifles=

==Colt AR-15==

S.W.A.T.

[[Image: Adam-12_Reed_AR-15_SWAT_log_14.JPG |thumb|none|600px|Reed armed with an AR-15 in "S.W.A.T." "log 14".]]

=Miscellaneous=

==Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher==

Sergeant MacDonald carries a [[Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]] in the back of his patrol car, kept with several tear gas grenades in a brown case. He often loads it up when the police are dealing with a barricaded armed suspect, usually giving it to Malloy to fire.

[[Image:Federal M201-Z Riot Gun.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]]

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Adam-12

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[[Image:Adam 12 box art.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Adam-12 (Television Series) (1968-1975)]]
'''The following weapons were used in the TV series ''Adam-12'':'''
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=Revolvers=

==Smith & Wesson Model 14==

The standard sidearm for the Los Angeles Police Department is the 6-inch barreled [[Smith & Wesson Model 14]] K-38 revolver. LAPD Officers Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) and Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]), as well as several other police officers, are seen unholstering and firing their revolvers several times throughout the series. Many suspects are also seen using this gun. At the time, the S&W Model 14 was one of the standard revolvers used by LAPD officers.

[[Image:Smith&WessonModel14.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 14 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy holds his Smith & Wesson Model 14 on a suspect in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LAPD Officer Pete Malloy ([[Martin Milner]]) with his Smith & Wesson Model 14 drawn in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W14-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy aims his Smith & Wesson Model 14 at two suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_Farrant_log_74.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Custom Farrant stocks on Malloy’s Smith & Wesson Model 14 in "log 74" (2.21)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 15==

In season 4, as the real-life LAPD transitioned from 6 inch to 4 inch barrel revolvers – often Model 14 K-38’s cut down by LAPD armorers, Adam-12 changed to [[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] "Combat Masterpiece" revolvers, at the same time changing to hinged “clam shell” Safety Speed holsters from the more common pouch holsters used the first three years.

Throughout the series, Pete Malloy used distinctive finger-groove grips by custom grip maker (and famous LAPD range master) Earl “Fuzzy” Farrant. Starting in season 4, Jim Reed also wore custom Farrant grips on his Mdl. 15.

[[Image:Model15a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Smith & Wesson Model 15]] .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam_12_Malloy_Reed_S&W_M-15_Cartwright_600.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Reed and Malloy protect Angela Cartwright from "Assassination" with S&W M-15 revolvers.(4.11)]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 36==

Malloy and Reed are shown with [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] Chief's Special .38 revolvers in cross-draw holsters when off duty or in their rare plain clothes assignments.

[[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_Lewis_xdraw_log_24.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Malloy with S&W Chief’s Special in Lewis cross-draw holster “log 24” (2.17)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Reed_M-36_xdraw_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Reed with S&W Chief’s Special in cross-draw holster “log 103” (2.6)]]
[[Image:Adam-12_Malloy_M-36_log_103.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Malloy aiming S&W Chief’s Special “log 103” (2.6)]]

==Colt Detective Special==

Many Los Angeles Police detectives are seen with [[Colt Detective Special]]s in their holsters. The Detective Special was popular with many LAPD detectives (as well as many detectives throughout the country), due to its small size ideal for concealed carry, up until 1988 when the LAPD switched over to semi-autos.

[[Image:Colt Detective Special.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Detective Special - .38 Special]]
[[Image:AD12-CDS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A detective (right) with his Colt Detective Special holstered in "Log 131" (1.4). It is noted as a Colt DS by its round butt.]]

==Colt Official Police==
Several criminals are armed with [[Colt Official Police]]s throughout the series.
[[Image:ColtOP5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Official Police - .38 Spl]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed confiscates a suspect's Colt Official Police in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-S&W10-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A suspect aims his Colt Official Police at Malloy in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Shotguns=

==Ithaca 37==

Los Angeles Police officers, including Peter Malloy and Jim Reed, are often seen using [[Ithaca 37]] shotguns whenever they must deal with armed suspects. They are equipped with standard magazine tubes. The Ithaca 37 was the standard shotgun for the LAPD for several decades until the late 90s, when they switched over to the Remington 870.

[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ithaca 37 - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy holds his Ithaca 37 when dealing with armed suspects in "Log 1" (1.1).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed holds his Ithaca 37 during the hostage situation in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Officer Jim Reed ([[Kent McCord]]) with his Ithaca 37 in "Log 11" (1.3).]]
[[Image:AD12-ITH37-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed aims his Ithaca 37 at armed suspects in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

==Double Barreled shotgun==

Many of the armed suspects that the LAPD encounters in the show are armed with [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Double barreled shotgun]]s.

[[Image:IGA-Coach-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Double Barreled shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:AD12-DBS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Malloy unloads a suspect's Double barreled shotgun in "Log 131" (1.4).]]

=Rifles=

==Colt AR-15==

=Miscellaneous=

==Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher==

Sergeant MacDonald carries a [[Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]] in the back of his patrol car, kept with several tear gas grenades in a brown case. He often loads it up when the police are dealing with a barricaded armed suspect, usually giving it to Malloy to fire.

[[Image:Federal M201-Z Riot Gun.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Federal M201-Z Grenade Launcher]]

[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Crime]]