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007: The World Is Not Enough

2011-01-13T01:45:35Z

Sci Fi Gunner: sorted into categories

'''The following weapons appear in the video game ''007: The World Is Not Enough'':'''
[[Image:The World is Not Enough box.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''007: The World Is Not Enough'' (2000)]]

=Pistols=
== Walther P99 ==

The [[Walther P99]] appears in the game as the "Wolfram P2K", and can be fitted with a silencer. It is Bond's standard-issue weapon, and is avalable in all single-player missions. It also acts as a backup weapon for AI characters in singleplayer mode; when zapped with the stun mode of Bond's watch, the AI characters will drop their main weapon and draw a Wolfram P2K once they recover.

[[Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Walther P99 9x19mm]]
[[Image:TWINE_P99.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "Wolfram P2K" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

==Magnum Research Desert Eagle Mk. XIX==
The [[Desert Eagle]], chambered in .44 Magnum and with a stainless steel finish, appears in the game as the "Raptor Magnum", and comes fitted with a frame-mounted laser pointer. Activating the laser pointer increases accuracy, but at the cost of a slower rate of fire.

[[Image:DesertEagle50AE.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Desert Eagle .44 Magnum with stainless steel finish]]
[[Image:TWINE DE.jpg|thumb|400px|none|The "Raptor Magnum" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

It looks like an Desert Eagle Mark I, of the tear drop safety.

== Colt Anaconda ==
The [[Colt Anaconda]] appears in the game as the "Mustang .44", and is fitted with a 2x magnification scope. It fires the slowest of all the pistols, but packs the biggest punch and has the longest effective range.

[[Image:Colt-Anaconda Revolver.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Colt Anaconda .44 Magnum]]
[[Image:Bondyblueboop3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "Mustang .44" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

== MAC-10 ==
The [[MAC-10#MAC-10|MAC-10]] appears in the game as the "Ingalls Type-20", and is fitted with a silencer.

[[Image:MAC10.jpg|thumb|none|350px|MAC-10 .45 ACP with magazine removed and fitted with silencer]]
[[Image:TWINE MAC10.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "Ingalls Type-20" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

== Golden Gun ==
As in other ''James Bond'' shooters, the [[Golden Gun]] appears in the game, usable in multiplayer mode. It is the strongest and most accurate gun on the game. It also has the same SFX as as the Wolfram P2K.

[[Image:Golden Gun.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Golden Gun]]
[[Image:the golden gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Multiplayer image with Golden Gun]]

=Sub-Machine Guns=
== Heckler & Koch MP5SD5 ==

The [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5SD|Heckler & Koch MP5SD]] appears in the game as the "Deutsche M9S", and is fitted with a 2x zoom scope and laser pointer. Activating the laser limits the weapon to semi-auto mode, but increases accuracy.

[[Image:MP5SD3.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch MP5SD3 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Badboybond4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "Deutsche M9S" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

== Steyr-Mannlicher TMP ==

The [[Steyr TMP]] appears in the game as the "Meyer TMP", and can operate in semi or full auto modes.athough in the game is moderetly weak.

[[Image:SteyrTMP.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Steyr TMP 9x19mm]]
[[Image:TWINE TMP.jpg|thumb|400px|thumb|none|The "Meyer TMP" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

== Heckler & Koch UMP45 ==

The [[Heckler & Koch UMP]] appears in the game as the "Deutsche M45", chambered in .45 ACP and fitted with a RIS foregrip as well as an accessory rail on top of the weapon, and fires in full auto or 2-round burst modes, despite the real weapon operatng in semi or full auto only with no burst setting.

False the UMP series Sub machine guns do come with a 2 round burst setting

[[Image:UMP 45.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch UMP45 .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Bond11.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "Deutsche M45" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

== FN P90 ==

The [[FN P90]] appears in the game as the "MB PDW 90", and aside from having a 2x zoom and the highest rate of fire, also has the highest magazine capacity of all the weapons in the game.

[[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|350px|FN P90 5.7x28mm]]
[[Image:MB POW 90.png‎ |thumb|none|400px|The "MB PDW 90" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

=Rifles=
== AKS-47 ==

The [[AK-47#AKS-47|AKS-47]] appears in the game as the "Soviet KA-57". Has very nice power, and has a resonable capacty. Yet has horrible accuracy.

[[Image:Aks47e.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AKS-47 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:KA-57.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Soviet KA-57" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

== Colt CAR15 Mod. 607 ==

The [[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series|Colt Model 607]] appears in the game as the "Mustang MAR-4" with a 2x scope, or fitted with an [[M203 grenade launcher]] as the "Mustang MAR-4 GL". One glitch is that the MAR-4 GL can occasionally fire two grenades without having to reload between shots.

[[Image:607-2-sm-741x267.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Model 607, 5.56 x 45mm NATO.]]
[[Image:Twine MAR.png‎|thumb|none|400px|The "MAR-4" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]
[[Image:M203.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M203 Grenade Launcher]]
[[Image:Mustang MAR-4 GL.png‎|thumb|none|400px|The "Mustang MAR-4 GL" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

== Steyr AUG ==

The [[Steyr AUG]] appears in the game as the "Meyer Bullpup", with a 2x zoom scope. Has an amazing range, accuracy, and power but is wasteful on ammo.

[[Image:Steyr-AUG.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Steyr AUG 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Meyer Bullpup.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Meyer Bullpup" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

== Heckler & Koch MSG90 ==

The [[Heckler & Koch G3#H&K MSG90|Heckler & Koch MSG90]] appears in the game as the "Deutsche SA90", equipped with a 6x zoom scope, which is the highest in the game.

[[Image:HKMSG90.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch MSG90 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[image:Deutsche SA90.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Deutsche SA90" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

== SIG-Sauer SSG 3000 ==

The [[SIG-Sauer SSG 3000]] appears in the game as the "Suisse SSR 4000" and is equipped with a 6x zoom scope and silencer, yet is noticeably shorter-range than the "Deutche SA90". It is one of the 2 guns that don't have magazines and need to be reloaded more than one time to have full ammo.

[[Image:SSG3000.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer SSG 3000 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Sussie.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Suisse SSR 4000" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

=Shotgun=
== Franchi SPAS-12 ==

The [[Franchi SPAS-12]] appears in the game with the stock removed and a green heat shield as the "Frinesi Special 12", and can operate in pump-action or full-auto modes, contrary to the real weapon only being capable of semi-auto fire at best. The "Frinesi Special 12" is one of the 2 guns that don't have magazines, it has to be reloded more than one time to have full ammo.

[[Image:FSpas12orign.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 12 Guage with stock removed]]
[[Image:Bond1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|The "Frinesi Special 12" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

=Explosives=
== M79 grenade launcher ==

The [[M79 grenade launcher]] appears in the game as the "GL 40" fitted with green synthetic furniture, and is capable of 2x zoom magnification, and can fire grenades that detonate either on impact or after a 5-second delay.

[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M79 grenade launcher 40mm]]
[[Image:GL 40.png|thumb|none|400px|The "GL-40" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

== RPG-22 ==

The [[RPG-22]] appears in the game as the "RL 22", and is capable of 2x zoom magnification.

[[Image:RPG-22 rocket launcher.jpg|thumb|none|350px|RPG-22 rocket launcher 72.5mm]]
[[Image:RL 22.png|thumb|none|400px|The "RL-22" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

== M202 FLASH ==
The [[M202 FLASH]] appears in the game as the "AT-420 Sentinel", and is capable of 4x zoom magnification, and can fire either fully or semi-automatic, the latter being laser-guided.

[[Image:M202A2 FLASH.JPG|thumb|none|350px|M202 FLASH 66mm]]
[[Image:AT-420 Sentinel.png|thumb|none|400px|The "AT-420 Sentinel" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

== M62 Grenade ==
The fragmentation grenade in this game is the M62.

=Miscellaneous=
== Ultimate Spear Gun ==

An Ultimate Spear Gun appears in the game as a "Seamaster Spear Gun"

[[Image:Spearmaster Speargun.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Seamaster Spear Gun" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

== Delta Mag 900 ==

Fictional pump-action crossbow.

[[Image:Delta 900 Mag.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Delta 900 Mag" in ''The World Is Not Enough'']]

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[[Category:James Bond Game]]
[[Category:Espionage]]
[[Category:First-Person Shooter]]

GoldenEye 007 (2010)

2011-01-12T02:15:49Z

Sci Fi Gunner: standardized image sizes 350 for guns, 450 for screenshots and added picture for AKS-74U

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[[Image:GoldenEye_007_Cover_2010.jpg‎‎|thumb|right|400px|''GoldenEye 007 (2010)'']]

This video game is the reimagining of the legendary [[GoldenEye 007]] and it stars [[Daniel Craig]] as [[James Bond]] instead of [[Pierce Brosnan]] who originally starred in the ''[[GoldenEye]]'' film. All of the weapons were shown with their proper names in the first trailers, but the final game uses fictional names, like most other James Bond games.

'''The following weapons are used in the video game ''GoldenEye 007'':'''

==Pistols==
=== Walther P99 ===
The [[Walther P99]] serves as James Bond's sidearm, instead of the classic "PP7" ([[Walther PPK]]) he used in the original ''[[GoldenEye 007]]''. It can be fitted with a removable silencer. Strangely, when Bond does a mid-magazine reload (meaning there are still rounds in the magazine, but he swaps it for a fresh one), He "chambers" the gun. This should automatically extract the unfired round from the chamber, but it doesn't affect the bullets at all. It also has Glock-style sights.

[[Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Walther P99]]

[[Image:GE2010_P99.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Walther P99 in the game. Notice the white-outlined rear sight, popular with Glock pistols, but incorrect for a P99.]]

[[Image:P99-suppressing.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Bond suppresses his Walther P99 while sneaking behind an opponent]]

[[Image:GoldenEye-007-P99-knock.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Bond pistol whips an opponent with his Walther P99]]

[[Image:GE2010 - Bond and P99.jpg|thumb|none|450px|James Bond with his Walther P99]]

=== Tokarev TT-33 ===

The [[Tokarev TT-33 Pistol]], known widely as the original Goldeneye's "DD44 Dostovei", appears frequently in the hands of Russian troops and Zukovsky's bodyguards in the earlier missions, renamed the "Torka T3". General Arkady Ourumov uses one to perform the faked execution of Alec Trevelyan. Oddly, although the execution is faked, blood spurts out of Trevelyan's head when he is "shot."

[[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev. Tula Arsenal (Soviet Union) Note CCCP printing around the star on the plastic grips]]

=== Heckler & Koch USP45 ===
The [[Heckler & Koch USP]] .45 appears in the hands of enemies in several missions, called the "Hawksman M5A" in-game. Sometimes, it can be found with a laser sight. Strangely, it's always modeled with the aiming module, but it's only functional on some guns . Also, every time the gun is reloaded, empty or not, the slide locks back upon the removal of the magazine, a fresh one is loaded in, then Bond thumbs the slide catch, snapping it forward, this is likely for the "dramatic" effect of the game, possibly adding to the "panic" of a quick reload. "USP" and ".45 Auto" can be barely seen written on the slide.

[[Image:HK-USP.jpg|350px|thumb|none|Heckler & Koch USP]]

[[Image:USP_GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch equipped with laser in the game, look carefully and you can see "USP .45 Auto" on the slide.]]

[[Image:04_Goldeneye_007_-_Nintendo_DS_(August_20th).jpg|thumb|none|450px|The USP also appears also in Nintendo DS version of the game, some originally believing that it was a [[Walther P99|P99]].]]

=== Beretta 93R ===
The [[Beretta 93R]] machine-pistol, called the "Kunara V" in-game, was first glimpsed in multiplayer mode in the debut trailer. It shows up in the hands of enemies in the Bunker and Depot levels.

[[Image:Beretta93-1-.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 93R 9x19mm]]
[[Image:M93R GE2010.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Beretta 93R in the game. Note the hammer is oddly built into the slide, as well as the red dot replacing the white dot on the slide.]]

=== Golden Gun ===
Scaramanga's famous [[Golden Gun]] has appeared in every video game in the same franchise except [[Tomorrow Never Dies (VG)|''Tomorrow Never Dies'']] and [[007: Quantum of Solace (VG)|''Quantum of Solace'']]. Appears only in multiplayer.

[[Image:Goldengun.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Francisco Scaramanga's Golden Gun]]

[[Image:GoldenGun2010.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Golden Gun appears in the multiplayer while Jaws is holding his AK-47.]]

=== Smith & Wesson Model 29 (Nickel finish) ===
(Unconfirmed)

The [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] is believed to be in the game as the elusive "Wolfe .44". Some evidence suggests its a Model 29, It has a large barrel, It's a .44 Magnum, and the Model 29 comes in a nickel finish as well as blued. It is the second most powerful gun in the game, behind the Golden Gun. The pistol features a nickel finish and kills enemies in one shot if it is placed at the abdomen or up. Strangely, when you shoot someone with it, there is a violent blood spray, similar to Call of Duty. This is odd because the game is only rated "T" for Teens... One can be found sitting on Valentin Zukovsky's table behind the desk in his office in the nightclub level, presumably this is his personal sidearm.

[[Image:S&W29.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 29]]

==Sub-machine gun==
=== Heckler & Koch MP5A3 ===
The [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] can be found in many levels, sometimes with a silencer, an M68 Aimpoint sight, or an ACOG scope. It's called the "Sigmus 9" in-game.

[[Image:MP5A3_StockCollapsed.jpg|350px|thumb|none|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm]]

[[Image:Ge2010_mp5_1.jpg|450px|thumb|none|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 in the game.]]

=== Heckler & Koch MP5K ===
The [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|MP5K]] also appears alongside its larger relative, simply labeled the "Sigmus" and equipped with a 20-round magazine. The differences between the two weapons is difficult to pick up due to their similar models and the fact that they make the same sound effect; the smaller capacity and the lack of a butt on the Sigmus 9's model when reloading are the main giveaways. A variant with winter camouflage and a silencer can be found in the first Severnaya mission.

[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch MP5K - version with SEF Plastic Trigger Pack - 9x19mm. This is a very well worn Motion picture weapon]]
[[Image:MP5 GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A shorter MP5 in the game.]]

=== Heckler & Koch MP7 ===
The [[Heckler & Koch MP7]], referred to as the "Stauger UA-1", appears in the Runway, Archives, and Cradle missions. It can be found with an unknown red dot sight, a suppressor, or an ACOG scope.

[[Image:H&K MP71A1.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch MP7A1 with factory magazine and iron sights - 4.6x30mm. This MP7 shown in Autopistol configuration.]]

=== FN P90 ===
The [[FN P90]] appears in single- and multiplayer, called the "Vargen FH-7". Its magazine capacity has been reduced from the original game's 80 to the correct 50, but it still sports an incredible rate of fire. It can sometimes be found with a red dot sight or a suppressor.

[[Image:FNP90.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|FN P90]]

[[Image:GoldenEye-007-FN-P90-shot.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|FN P90 in the game]]
[[Image:Oddjob-FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Oddjob -who only appears in the multiplayer- is holding an FN P90 while someone is aiming him with a sniper]]

=== TDI Vector ===
The [[TDI Vector]] submachine gun is used by Janus thugs in the Bunker and Statue missions, referred to in-game as the "Strata SV-400". It can sometimes be found with an EOTech sight attached.

[[Image:Krisssuperv.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Prototype TDI Kriss Super V Vector SMG, .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vector_GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The TDI Vector in the game.]]

==Rifle==
=== AK-47 ===
Mirroring the film's events, the guards at the Arkhangelsk Dam carry [[AK-47]]s, which 007 can pick up from slain foes and use for himself. Russian infantry in many other levels also carry the weapon, sometimes with a Kobra red dot sight attached.

[[Image:TypeIII_AK47.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|AK-47]]

[[Image:GE2010_AK47.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|AK-47 in the game]]

=== AKS-74U ===
The [[AKS-74U#AKS-74U|AKS-74U]] weapon is only seen in the Nintendo DS screen-shots.

[[Image:AKSU-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|350px|AKS-74U (also referred to as the "AKSU" or 'Krinkov') - 5.45x39mm]]

[[Image:01_Goldeneye_007_-_Nintendo_DS_(August_20th).jpg‎‎|thumb|none|450px|]][[Image:02_Goldeneye_007_-_Nintendo_DS_(August_20th).jpg‎‎|thumb|none|450px|]]

=== Colt Model 933 ===
The [[M16 rifle series#Colt Model 933|Colt Model 933]], called the "Terralite 3" in-game, is found in the Jungle mission, much like the AR-33 in the original. It sometimes comes with an ACOG scope, suppressor, or EOTech sight attached.

[[Image:ColtM4commando.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt Model 933]]

[[Image:Colt_Model_933_GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt Model 933 in the game]]

=== FN SCAR-H ===
The [[FN SCAR|FN SCAR-H]] is seen at various points throughout the game, most often by Janus thugs; in-game, it's called the "Kallos TT9". It can sometimes be found with an EOTech sight, an ACOG scope, or an [[FN EGLM]] grenade launcher. Its magazine erroneously carries 30 rounds instead of the actual 20.

[[Image:FN_SCAR_-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|FN SCAR-H]]

[[Image:Ge2010_SCAR.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|FN SCAR-H in the game]]
[[Image:Ge2010_june_01.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|A Snow-Guard in Severnaya holds an FN SCAR-H, equipped with suppressor, scope, and grenade launcher]]

[[Image:05_Goldeneye_007_-_Nintendo_DS_(August_20th).jpg|thumb|none|450px|FN SCAR-H in Nintendo DS version of the game]]

=== Heckler & Koch G36C ===
The [[Heckler & Koch G36C|G36C]], referred to as the "Anova DP3" in-game, is frequently carried by the masked elite guards that show up when enemies are alerted to Bond's presence. It can be found with an EOTech sight, an ACOG sight, a laser aiming module, or an [[Heckler & Koch AG36 Grenade Launcher|AG-36]] grenade launcher.

[[Image:G36CwForegrip.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch G36C 5.56x45mm with RIS foregrip]]

[[Image:GE2010_G36C.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch G36C in the game]]

=== IMI Tavor TAR-21 ===
The [[Tavor TAR-21 rifle series|TAR-21]] appears in the hands of Janus thugs in Statue Park and the Nigerian Solar plant, referred to in-game as the "Ivana Spec-R". It can be found with a suppressor, a laser sight, or an EOTech sight.

[[Image:Tavor-tar.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Tavor TAR-21 with Kimber Mepro red dot sight 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Tavor GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|450px|TAR-21 in the game.]]

=== SVD Dragunov ===
The [[SVD Dragunov]] only appears in the Dam mission in single player, equipped with a silencer and thermal sights. It first appeared in the debut trailer with its original name, but the final game calls it the "Pavlov ASR".

[[Image:SVD_Rifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|SVD Dragunov Sniper]]

[[Image:Dragunov_GE2010.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|SVD Dragunov in the game]]

=== Walther WA 2000 ===
This [[Walther WA 2000]] sniper rifle can be found in the Surface, Bunker and Carrier missions (in a display case), usually with a silencer. Ammo is very scarce, as no enemies carry it.

[[Image:Walther-WA2000.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther WA 2000, .300 Winchester Magnum]]

[[Image:WA2000Game.jpg|thumb|none|450px|WA2000 in the game.]]

=== Accuracy International Arctic Warfare ===
An unknown version of the [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare series|Arctic Warfare]] sniper rifle appears as the "Gambit CP-208". It can be found with or without a silencer.

[[Image:Accuracy International Arctic Warfare - Psg 90.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Accuracy International AW 7.62x51mm NATO]]

=== Heckler & Koch SL8 ===
The [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch SL8|SL8]] variant of the G36 appears as the "Talon HL-450", with a 10 round magazine and treated exclusively as a sniper rifle. It can be found with or without a suppressor.

[[Image:H&KSL8BlackTacticalMod.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch SL8 Tactical Sniper Rifle, Aftermarket "re-black" of the grey synthetic body of the SL8 and upgraded with G36 high capacity magazine well and G36 bipod - 5.56x45mm. However, most snipers use the 10 round magazines when they fire from the prone position.]]

=== SIG SG 550 SR ===
The [[SIG SG 550#SIG SG 550 SR|550 SR]] sniper rifle variant of the SIG SG 550 appears as the "Toros AV-400". It can be found in an out-of-the-way weapons cache in the final mission, Cradle.

[[Image:550sniper.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG SG 550, 5.56x45m NATO]]

==Shotgun==
=== Franchi SPAS-12 ===
The [[Franchi SPAS-12]] has returned once more previously featured in [[007: Nightfire|''NightFire'']] and [[007: Everything or Nothing|''Everything or Nothing'']] video games. It is called the Drumhead Type-12 in-game.

[[Image:Franchi12.jpg|350px|thumb|none|Franchi SPAS-12 Short Barreled Version - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:SPAS_in_GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Franchi SPAS 12 in the game.]]

=== FN Tactical Police ===
The [[FN Tactical Police]] shotgun appears in the game as the "PT-9 Interdictus", used by Russian troops and OMON teams in the St. Petersburg Military Archives, as well as Trevelyan's troops at the Nigerian Cradle installation. It was one of several weapons originally shown with its actual name in early trailers, before receiving a fictional one in the final game. Its presence in the Archives mission may well be a reference to the fact that the beta version of the original Goldeneye's Archives had the Shotgun as an obtainable weapon.

[[Image:Fn tactical police-1-.jpg|thumb|none|350px|FN Tactical Police, 12 Gauge]]

=== USAS-12 Shotgun ===
The Daewoo [[USAS-12 Shotgun]] appears in-game as the "Masterson M557", equipped with an erroneous 12-round drum magazine. Various Janus troops wield it against Bond, especially in later missions.

[[Image:Usas-12.jpg|thumb|none|350px|USAS-12 w/ 20-round drum - 12-gauge]]
[[Image:Masterson GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|450px|USAS-12 Shotgun in the game.]]

==Rocket Launcher==
=== RPG-7===
The sole rocket launcher in the game is the [[RPG-7]], referred to as the MJR-409 in-game.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|none|thumb|350px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]

[[Image:RPG GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|450px|RPG-7 in the game]]

== Guns with Unknown real counterpart ==

* '''SEGS 550'''. Generic shotgun. 8 shell magazine.
* '''Sly 2020'''. powerful shotgun. *Could it be a sawed off version of a Ithaca M37? Can anyone confirm?

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[[Category:James Bond Game]]
[[Category:Espionage]]
[[Category:First-Person Shooter]]

GoldenEye 007 (2010)

2011-01-12T01:58:52Z

Sci Fi Gunner: reorganized based on type

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[[Image:GoldenEye_007_Cover_2010.jpg‎‎|thumb|right|400px|''GoldenEye 007 (2010)'']]

This video game is the reimagining of the legendary [[GoldenEye 007]] and it stars [[Daniel Craig]] as [[James Bond]] instead of [[Pierce Brosnan]] who originally starred in the ''[[GoldenEye]]'' film. All of the weapons were shown with their proper names in the first trailers, but the final game uses fictional names, like most other James Bond games.

'''The following weapons are used in the video game ''GoldenEye 007'':'''

==Pistols==
=== Walther P99 ===
The [[Walther P99]] serves as James Bond's sidearm, instead of the classic "PP7" ([[Walther PPK]]) he used in the original ''[[GoldenEye 007]]''. It can be fitted with a removable silencer. Strangely, when Bond does a mid-magazine reload (meaning there are still rounds in the magazine, but he swaps it for a fresh one), He "chambers" the gun. This should automatically extract the unfired round from the chamber, but it doesn't affect the bullets at all. It also has Glock-style sights.

[[Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|Walther P99]]

[[Image:GE2010_P99.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Walther P99 in the game. Notice the white-outlined rear sight, popular with Glock pistols, but incorrect for a P99.]]

[[Image:P99-suppressing.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Bond suppresses his Walther P99 while sneaking behind an opponent]]

[[Image:GoldenEye-007-P99-knock.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bond pistol whips an opponent with his Walther P99]]

[[Image:GE2010 - Bond and P99.jpg|thumb|none|400px|James Bond with his Walther P99]]

=== Tokarev TT-33 ===

The [[Tokarev TT-33 Pistol]], known widely as the original Goldeneye's "DD44 Dostovei", appears frequently in the hands of Russian troops and Zukovsky's bodyguards in the earlier missions, renamed the "Torka T3". General Arkady Ourumov uses one to perform the faked execution of Alec Trevelyan. Oddly, although the execution is faked, blood spurts out of Trevelyan's head when he is "shot."

[[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tokarev TT-33 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev. Tula Arsenal (Soviet Union) Note CCCP printing around the star on the plastic grips]]

=== Heckler & Koch USP45 ===
The [[Heckler & Koch USP]] .45 appears in the hands of enemies in several missions, called the "Hawksman M5A" in-game. Sometimes, it can be found with a laser sight. Strangely, it's always modeled with the aiming module, but it's only functional on some guns . Also, every time the gun is reloaded, empty or not, the slide locks back upon the removal of the magazine, a fresh one is loaded in, then Bond thumbs the slide catch, snapping it forward, this is likely for the "dramatic" effect of the game, possibly adding to the "panic" of a quick reload. "USP" and ".45 Auto" can be barely seen written on the slide.

[[Image:HK-USP.jpg|350px|thumb|none|Heckler & Koch USP]]

[[Image:USP_GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch equipped with laser in the game, look carefully and you can see "USP .45 Auto" on the slide.]]

[[Image:04_Goldeneye_007_-_Nintendo_DS_(August_20th).jpg|thumb|none|350px|The USP also appears also in Nintendo DS version of the game, some originally believing that it was a [[Walther P99|P99]].]]

=== Beretta 93R ===
The [[Beretta 93R]] machine-pistol, called the "Kunara V" in-game, was first glimpsed in multiplayer mode in the debut trailer. It shows up in the hands of enemies in the Bunker and Depot levels.

[[Image:Beretta93-1-.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 93R 9x19mm]]
[[Image:M93R GE2010.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Beretta 93R in the game. Note the hammer is oddly built into the slide, as well as the red dot replacing the white dot on the slide.]]

=== Golden Gun ===
Scaramanga's famous [[Golden Gun]] has appeared in every video game in the same franchise except [[Tomorrow Never Dies (VG)|''Tomorrow Never Dies'']] and [[007: Quantum of Solace (VG)|''Quantum of Solace'']]. Appears only in multiplayer.

[[Image:Goldengun.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Francisco Scaramanga's Golden Gun]]

[[Image:GoldenGun2010.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Golden Gun appears in the multiplayer while Jaws is holding his AK-47.]]

=== Smith & Wesson Model 29 (Nickel finish) ===
(Unconfirmed)

The [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] is believed to be in the game as the elusive "Wolfe .44". Some evidence suggests its a Model 29, It has a large barrel, It's a .44 Magnum, and the Model 29 comes in a nickel finish as well as blued. It is the second most powerful gun in the game, behind the Golden Gun. The pistol features a nickel finish and kills enemies in one shot if it is placed at the abdomen or up. Strangely, when you shoot someone with it, there is a violent blood spray, similar to Call of Duty. This is odd because the game is only rated "T" for Teens... One can be found sitting on Valentin Zukovsky's table behind the desk in his office in the nightclub level, presumably this is his personal sidearm.

[[Image:S&W29.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 29]]

==Sub-machine gun==
=== Heckler & Koch MP5A3 ===
The [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] can be found in many levels, sometimes with a silencer, an M68 Aimpoint sight, or an ACOG scope. It's called the "Sigmus 9" in-game.

[[Image:MP5A3_StockCollapsed.jpg|350px|thumb|none|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm]]

[[Image:Ge2010_mp5_1.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 in the game.]]

=== Heckler & Koch MP5K ===
The [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|MP5K]] also appears alongside its larger relative, simply labeled the "Sigmus" and equipped with a 20-round magazine. The differences between the two weapons is difficult to pick up due to their similar models and the fact that they make the same sound effect; the smaller capacity and the lack of a butt on the Sigmus 9's model when reloading are the main giveaways. A variant with winter camouflage and a silencer can be found in the first Severnaya mission.

[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5K - version with SEF Plastic Trigger Pack - 9x19mm. This is a very well worn Motion picture weapon]]
[[Image:MP5 GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|350px|A shorter MP5 in the game.]]

=== Heckler & Koch MP7 ===
The [[Heckler & Koch MP7]], referred to as the "Stauger UA-1", appears in the Runway, Archives, and Cradle missions. It can be found with an unknown red dot sight, a suppressor, or an ACOG scope.

[[Image:H&K MP71A1.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP7A1 with factory magazine and iron sights - 4.6x30mm. This MP7 shown in Autopistol configuration.]]

=== FN P90 ===
The [[FN P90]] appears in single- and multiplayer, called the "Vargen FH-7". Its magazine capacity has been reduced from the original game's 80 to the correct 50, but it still sports an incredible rate of fire. It can sometimes be found with a red dot sight or a suppressor.

[[Image:FNP90.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|FN P90]]

[[Image:GoldenEye-007-FN-P90-shot.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|FN P90 in the game]]
[[Image:Oddjob-FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Oddjob -who only appears in the multiplayer- is holding an FN P90 while someone is aiming him with a sniper]]

=== TDI Vector ===
The [[TDI Vector]] submachine gun is used by Janus thugs in the Bunker and Statue missions, referred to in-game as the "Strata SV-400". It can sometimes be found with an EOTech sight attached.

[[Image:Krisssuperv.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Prototype TDI Kriss Super V Vector SMG, .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Vector_GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The TDI Vector in the game.]]

==Rifle==
=== AK-47 ===
Mirroring the film's events, the guards at the Arkhangelsk Dam carry [[AK-47]]s, which 007 can pick up from slain foes and use for himself. Russian infantry in many other levels also carry the weapon, sometimes with a Kobra red dot sight attached.

[[Image:TypeIII_AK47.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|AK-47]]

[[Image:GE2010_AK47.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|AK-47 in the game]]

=== AKS-74U ===
This weapon is only seen in the Nintendo DS screen-shots.

[[Image:01_Goldeneye_007_-_Nintendo_DS_(August_20th).jpg‎‎|thumb|none|350px|]][[Image:02_Goldeneye_007_-_Nintendo_DS_(August_20th).jpg‎‎|thumb|none|350px|]]

=== Colt Model 933 ===
The [[M16 rifle series#Colt Model 933|Colt Model 933]], called the "Terralite 3" in-game, is found in the Jungle mission, much like the AR-33 in the original. It sometimes comes with an ACOG scope, suppressor, or EOTech sight attached.

[[Image:ColtM4commando.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt Model 933]]

[[Image:Colt_Model_933_GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Model 933 in the game]]

=== FN SCAR-H ===
The [[FN SCAR|FN SCAR-H]] is seen at various points throughout the game, most often by Janus thugs; in-game, it's called the "Kallos TT9". It can sometimes be found with an EOTech sight, an ACOG scope, or an [[FN EGLM]] grenade launcher. Its magazine erroneously carries 30 rounds instead of the actual 20.

[[Image:FN_SCAR_-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|FN SCAR-H]]

[[Image:Ge2010_SCAR.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|FN SCAR-H in the game]]
[[Image:Ge2010_june_01.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|A Snow-Guard in Severnaya holds an FN SCAR-H, equipped with suppressor, scope, and grenade launcher]]

[[Image:05_Goldeneye_007_-_Nintendo_DS_(August_20th).jpg|thumb|none|350px|FN SCAR-H in Nintendo DS version of the game]]

=== Heckler & Koch G36C ===
The [[Heckler & Koch G36C|G36C]], referred to as the "Anova DP3" in-game, is frequently carried by the masked elite guards that show up when enemies are alerted to Bond's presence. It can be found with an EOTech sight, an ACOG sight, a laser aiming module, or an [[Heckler & Koch AG36 Grenade Launcher|AG-36]] grenade launcher.

[[Image:G36CwForegrip.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch G36C 5.56x45mm with RIS foregrip]]

[[Image:GE2010_G36C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch G36C in the game]]

=== IMI Tavor TAR-21 ===
The [[Tavor TAR-21 rifle series|TAR-21]] appears in the hands of Janus thugs in Statue Park and the Nigerian Solar plant, referred to in-game as the "Ivana Spec-R". It can be found with a suppressor, a laser sight, or an EOTech sight.

[[Image:Tavor-tar.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Tavor TAR-21 with Kimber Mepro red dot sight 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Tavor GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|400px|TAR-21 in the game.]]

=== SVD Dragunov ===
The [[SVD Dragunov]] only appears in the Dam mission in single player, equipped with a silencer and thermal sights. It first appeared in the debut trailer with its original name, but the final game calls it the "Pavlov ASR".

[[Image:SVD_Rifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|350px|SVD Dragunov Sniper]]

[[Image:Dragunov_GE2010.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|SVD Dragunov in the game]]

=== Walther WA 2000 ===
This [[Walther WA 2000]] sniper rifle can be found in the Surface, Bunker and Carrier missions (in a display case), usually with a silencer. Ammo is very scarce, as no enemies carry it.

[[Image:Walther-WA2000.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther WA 2000, .300 Winchester Magnum]]

[[Image:WA2000Game.jpg|thumb|none|350px|WA2000 in the game.]]

=== Accuracy International Arctic Warfare ===
An unknown version of the [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare series|Arctic Warfare]] sniper rifle appears as the "Gambit CP-208". It can be found with or without a silencer.

[[Image:Accuracy International Arctic Warfare - Psg 90.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Accuracy International AW 7.62x51mm NATO]]

=== Heckler & Koch SL8 ===
The [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch SL8|SL8]] variant of the G36 appears as the "Talon HL-450", with a 10 round magazine and treated exclusively as a sniper rifle. It can be found with or without a suppressor.

[[Image:H&KSL8BlackTacticalMod.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch SL8 Tactical Sniper Rifle, Aftermarket "re-black" of the grey synthetic body of the SL8 and upgraded with G36 high capacity magazine well and G36 bipod - 5.56x45mm. However, most snipers use the 10 round magazines when they fire from the prone position.]]

=== SIG SG 550 SR ===
The [[SIG SG 550#SIG SG 550 SR|550 SR]] sniper rifle variant of the SIG SG 550 appears as the "Toros AV-400". It can be found in an out-of-the-way weapons cache in the final mission, Cradle.

[[Image:550sniper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG SG 550, 5.56x45m NATO]]

==Shotgun==
=== Franchi SPAS-12 ===
The [[Franchi SPAS-12]] has returned once more previously featured in [[007: Nightfire|''NightFire'']] and [[007: Everything or Nothing|''Everything or Nothing'']] video games. It is called the Drumhead Type-12 in-game.

[[Image:Franchi12.jpg|350px|thumb|none|Franchi SPAS-12 Short Barreled Version - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:SPAS_in_GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Franchi SPAS 12 in the game.]]

=== FN Tactical Police ===
The [[FN Tactical Police]] shotgun appears in the game as the "PT-9 Interdictus", used by Russian troops and OMON teams in the St. Petersburg Military Archives, as well as Trevelyan's troops at the Nigerian Cradle installation. It was one of several weapons originally shown with its actual name in early trailers, before receiving a fictional one in the final game. Its presence in the Archives mission may well be a reference to the fact that the beta version of the original Goldeneye's Archives had the Shotgun as an obtainable weapon.

[[Image:Fn tactical police-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN Tactical Police, 12 Gauge]]

=== USAS-12 Shotgun ===
The Daewoo [[USAS-12 Shotgun]] appears in-game as the "Masterson M557", equipped with an erroneous 12-round drum magazine. Various Janus troops wield it against Bond, especially in later missions.

[[Image:Usas-12.jpg|thumb|none|400px|USAS-12 w/ 20-round drum - 12-gauge]]
[[Image:Masterson GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|400px|USAS-12 Shotgun in the game.]]

==Rocket Launcher==
=== RPG-7===
The sole rocket launcher in the game is the [[RPG-7]], referred to as the MJR-409 in-game.

[[Image:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|none|thumb|350px|RPG-7 - 40mm]]

[[Image:RPG GE2010.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPG-7 in the game]]

== Guns with Unknown real counterpart ==

* '''SEGS 550'''. Generic shotgun. 8 shell magazine.
* '''Sly 2020'''. powerful shotgun. *Could it be a sawed off version of a Ithaca M37? Can anyone confirm?

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A science Fiction show in 1995, created by James Wong and Glen Morgan, concerning the adventures of the 'Wild Cards', a group of US Marines who must fight an alien threat to the human race. The pilot episode was filmed in Australia with locations in the Australian states of Queensland (e.g Warner Bros. Movie World Studios and the Bond University campus on the Gold Coast) and New South Wales (e.g. RAAF Williamstown air base for the USMC air base) being used for the production. After the pilot episode was made, production was relocated to California, USA for the remainder of the series.

The Following weapons were used in the show:

==M590 Assault Rifle aka "[[Ruger Mini-14]]"==
* The Primary weapon of the USMC in the future (mid/late 21st century) is the fictional M590 Assault Rifle. The real firearm was a Ruger Mini-14 hidden in a custom fabricated shell. In the show the Marines only fired the weapon semi Auto, so the rifles inside were most likely Mini-14s only, and not AC556s. This prop rifle would later be used again in ''The X-Files'' episode "First Person Shooter" as one of the many weapons available to gamers in the virtural reality game of the episode's name.
[[Image:SAaB Rifle.png‎|thumb|none|450px|The Marines aboard an APC with their M590s]]
[[Image:SAABTrio.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Lt. Nathan West (Morgan Weisser), Captain Shane Vansen (Kristen Cloke), and Lt. Cooper Hawkes (Rodney Rowland), pose with their M590 Assault Rifles]]
[[Image:SAABTrio02.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Another promo shot of West, Vansen and Hawkes with their M590 Assault Rifles]]
[[Image:SAABM590.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Artists rendition of the M590 Assault Rifle]]

==M70 Pistol aka "[[Glock 17L]]"==
* The Primary Sidearm of the Space Marines was the Fictional M70 Pistol, which was in reality a Glock 17L with an extended threaded barrel with an AR15 birdcage flash hider attached, along with some other clever additions to mask the gun's identity. The first appearance was orange instead of OD Green with a light inside the flash hider, it was used as a training gun attached to a VR video game/training simulator used by Hawkes in episode 2.
[[Image:G17l.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The Glock 17L, the real gun upon which the M70 was built. An extended threaded barrel was attached to affix the birdcage flash hider - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:SAB-Glock.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stunt gun]]
[[Image:SAaB M70 Game Gun.png‎‎|thumb|none|450px|A VR version of the M70 being used by Hawkes]]
[[Image:SAABLtVDamphousse.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Lt. Vanessa Damphousse (Lanei Chapman) holds her M70 Pistol]]
[[Image:SAAB M-70 Art.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Artists rendition of the M70 Pistol, in reality a modified Glock 17L - 9mm]]

==[[Desert Eagle]]==
* Lt. Colonel T.C. McQueen (James Morrison) is seen in several episodes carrying a Desert Eagle pistol (caliber unknown). It also appears to have been intended to be the original sidearm since Cooper Hawkes can be seen with a Desert Eagle handgun in the Pilot episode when he pointed it at the head of a captured Chig pilot, and one of the other Marines in the third episode was carrying one.
[[Image:DesertEagle357Black.jpg‎|thumb|400px|none|Desert Eagle MK VII - .357 Magnum. The most commonly seen Desert Eagle pistol in films before 1999.]]
[[Image:SAaB Pissed Cooper.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Lt. Hawkes holds a Desert Eagle Pistol to a Chigs head]]
[[Image:SAABDesertEagle.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|T.C. McQueen carries a Desert Eagle]]

==[[Heckler & Koch G3#H&K SR9 series of Sniper Rifles|Faux SR9]]==
* Used by Cooper Hawkes on a solo covert ops mission. The butt of the rifle gives away the fact its a "Faux" SR9.
[[ Image:H&KSR9T.jpg‎ |thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch SR9(T). This is a 'faux' SR9(T) movie gun converted from an HK91, with an SG/1 style butt stock (instead of the correct MSG90 style) and PSG trigger pack - 7.62x51mm]]

==[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5SD|Heckler & Koch MP5SD]]==
* Used by the Marines in a night time covert ops mission. The MP5SD3 was also used by the Silicates on numerous occasions.
[[Image:MP5SD3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5SD3 9mm with Stock Extended.]]

==[[MAC-10]]==
* Used by Silicates at the mining facility (Season 1, Episode 9)
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ingram MAC 10 open bolt Submachine gun - .45acp]]‎

==[[Steyr AUG]]==
* Used by various characters throughout the series.
[[Image:Steyr-AUG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Steyr AUG - 5.56mm NATO]]

==[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]==
* Seen in the Pilot episode in the hands of the Security personnel when they searched the Telus colony spacecraft before the launch.
[[Image:MP5A3 StockCollapsed.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9mm]]

==Rocket Launcher==
A rocket launcher, that vaguely resembles a M72 LAW, was seen in several episodes. It first appeared in episode 3 when a pissed Vansen shot down a Silicate ship that was trying to escape.
[[Image:SAaB Rocket.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Vansen with a Rocket Launcher]]
[[Image:SAaB Rocket 2.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Preparing to fire]]

==Chig Battle Axe/Rifle combo==
* Fictional 'firearm' developed entirely from fibreglass and is not based on a live firearm - fired electronically initiated 9mm blank ammunition.
[[Image:ChigWRifle.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|450px|Chig Warrior (Kristian Sorensen) with his fictional weapon]]

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Heckler & Koch G3

2009-11-14T02:38:46Z

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'''The Heckler & Koch G3 and variants have been seen in the following films, television series, video games, and anime used by the following actors:'''

==Specifications==

'''Type:''' Battle Rifle

'''Caliber:''' 7.62x51mm NATO

'''Capacity:''' 20 rounds

'''Fire Modes:''' Safe/Semi-Auto/Full-Auto; Sniper or Target versions have Semi-Auto Only

== H&K G3 ==
[[Image:CETME G3.JPG|thumb|right|400px|Early Heckler & Koch G3 rifle with wooden handguard and buttstock 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch G3A3 with slimline handguard 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:G3a3.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch G3A3 with wide handguard 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:SouthAfricanG3.jpg|thumb|right|400px|South African version of the Heckler & Koch G3A3 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[The Last King of Scotland]]|| || Ugandan Soldiers || || 2006
|-
| [[Munich]]|| ||German police officers|| G3A3ZF variant with 4x sight|| 2005
|-
| [[Hotel Rwanda]]|| || UN Belgian Soldiers || South African Version || 2004
|-
| [[Sniper 3]]|| || || || 2004
|-
| [[The Bone Snatcher]]|||| Trackers ||South African Version || 2003
|-
| [[Black Hawk Down]]|||| Somali Militiamen || || 2001
|-
| [[Savior]]|| || French Foreign Legion Recruits || || 1998
|-
| [[Clear and Present Danger]]|| || Colombian Military Police || || 1994
|-
| [[Predator 2]]|| || Colombian Gang || || 1990
|-
| [[Solo Voyage]]||Mikhail Nozhkin|| Major Shatokin||Also carried by American soldiers ||1985
|-
| [[Day of The Dead (1985)|Day of the Dead]]||[[Ralph Marrero]] || Pvt. Rickles || || 1985
|-
|}

=== Television ===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Situation Critical]]/Hunting Pablo Escobar || || || G3A3 || 2007 -
|-
| [[Ultimate Force]] || || SAS Troopers || || 2002 - 2008
|-
| [[24]] ||[[Kiefer Sutherland]] || Agent Jack Bauer || || 2001 -
|-
|}

=== Anime ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Black Lagoon]] ||Rock || || 2006
|-
| [[Cowboy Bebop]] ||Red Dragon Syndicate Members || || 1998 - 1999
|-
| [[Gunslinger Girl]] ||Triela || || 2004
|}

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Battlefield 2]] || || || || 2005
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear]] || || || || 1999
|-
| [[Delta Force: Black Hawk Down|Delta Force: Black Hawk Down :Team Sabre]] || || || || 2004
|-
| [[Rainbow Six 3|Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield]] || || || || 2003
|-
| [[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots]] || || || || 2008
|}

 

== H&K G3A4 ==
[[Image:G3A4.jpg|400px|thumb|right|Heckler & Koch G3A4 7.62x51mm NATO]]
G3 with a sliding stock.
===Film===
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
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| [[Equilibrium]]|| || Resistance Fighters || || 2002
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=== Television ===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Seconds From Disaster]]/Munich Olympic Massacre || || West German Police || || September 13, 2006
|-
| [[Ultimate Force]] || || SAS Troopers || || 2002 - 2008
|-
| [[24]] ||[[Kiefer Sutherland]] || Agent Jack Bauer || || 2001 -
|-
|}
=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]] || || || || 2007
|-
| [[Operation Flashpoint]] || || || || 2001
|-
|}

 

== H&K G3KA4 ==

[[Image:G3KA4.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch G3KA4 7.62x51mm NATO]]
Carbine version of the G3 with a sliding stock and shorter barrel.
=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Far Cry 2]] || || w/ 30-round magazine || || 2008
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Vegas 2]] || || || || 2008
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Vegas]] || || || || 2006
|-
|}

 

== H&K G3SG/1 ==
Accurized G3 with a wide forearm and bipod with a sniper stock and a scope.Automatic fire is retained.
[[Image:H&KSG1.jpg‎ |thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch G3SG/1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[New Police Story]]|| [[Daniel Wu]] || Joe Kwan || || 2004
|}

=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Stargate: SG1]] || [[Richard Dean Anderson]] || Colonel Jack O'Neill || || 1997 - 2007
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Left 4 Dead 2]] || G3SG-1 || || As an exclusive weapon || 2008
|-
| [[Counter-Strike Online]] || D3/AU-1 || || || 2008
|-
| [[Counter Strike: Source]] || || || || 2004
|-
| [[Half-Life: Counter-strike - HL: CS Condition Zero]] || || || || 2004
|-
| [[Enter the Matrix]] || 33SG || || || 2003
|-
| [[Counter Strike 1.6]] || || || || 2003
|-
|}

==H&K PSG-1==
[[Image:H&KPSG01.jpg‎ |thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch PSG-1 7.62x51mm NATO]]

The PSG-1 is a heavily modified G3 rifle with semi-auto only functions. Most claim it to be the most accurate semi-automatic rifle in the world, however it is quite expensive. The current price to Law Enforcement today is about $10,000 per unit. Since no more rifles are being imported for civilian sales, those original German guns that are currently in the country have risen to about $15,000 per unit for a pristine example.

=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Vantage Point]] || || || Automated Platform ||2008
|-
| [[Dragon Squad (2005)]] ||[[Maggie Q]] || Yuet || Fitted with 20-round magazine during firing scenes ||2005
|-
| [[Kill Bill Vol. 1]] ||[[Lucy Liu]] || O-Ren Ishii ||||2003
|-
| [[Lethal Weapon]] ||[[Mel Gibson]] || Detective Martin Riggs || With folding bipod and 20-round magazine ||1987
|-
|}

=== Anime ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Mezzo DSA]] || Kazuto || || 2004
|-
| [[Patlabor: The Movie 2]] || Tokyo Metro Police Sniper || || 1993
|-
| [[Case Closed]] || Merecenary Sniper || || 2006
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
|-
| [[Resident Evil 5]] || || || || 2009
|-
| [[Grand Theft Auto IV]] || || || || 2008
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Vegas 2]] || || || || 2008
|-
| [[Reservoir Dogs (video game)]] || Sniper Rifle || || || 2006
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Vegas]] || || || || 2006
|-
| [[Scarface: The World is Yours]] || Sniper Rifle || || || 2006
|-
| [[Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes]] || || || || 2004
|-
| [[Conflict: Desert Storm 2 Back to Baghdad]] || || || || 2003
|-
| [[Project IGI 2: Covert Strike]] || || Available with and without suppresor || || 2003
|-
| [[Socom II]] || || || || 2002
|-
| [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City]] || || || || 2002
|-
| [[Delta Force: Task Force Dagger]] || || w/ suppressor || || 2002
|-
| [[Socom|SOCOM II: U.S. Navy SEALs]] || || || || 2002
|-
| [[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty]] || || || || 2001
|-
| [[Delta Force: Land Warrior]] || || w/ suppressor || || 2000
|-
| [[Metal Gear Solid]] || || || || 1998
|-
| [[Urban Terror]] || || || || 1998
|-
|}
 

==H&K HK91==
[[Image:HK_Model_91.jpg‎ |thumb|400px|right|HK91-A2 Rifle with Standard Stock ''Note lack of third position for automatic fire'' - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:HK91A3.jpg|thumb|400px|right|HK91-A3 with factory telescoping Stock - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[The Kingdom]]||[[Jamie Foxx]] || Ronald Fleury || ||2007
|-
| [[Spider-Man]]|| || Armored Van Robbers || || 2002
|-
| [[Jurassic Park II: The Lost World]]||[[Peter Stormare]] || Dieter Stark || Scope and Tactical Flashlight ||1997
|-
| [[U.S. Marshals]]|| || Kentucky State Police officer || fitted with scope ||1998
|-
| [[Heat]]||[[Val Kilmer]] || Chris Shiherlis || Factory Bipod and Leopold Scope ||1995
|-
| [[The Fugitive]]|| || Chicago P.D. SWAT Sniper || w/ Scope ||1993
|-
| [[Commando]]||[[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] || John Matrix || ||1985
|-
| [[Deal of the Century]]||[[Chevy Chase]] || Eddie Muntz || Factory Bipod ||1983
|-
|}

===Television===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[The Stand]] || || Randall Flagg's Henchmen || || 1994
|-
| [[Alien Nation - The Series]] || [[Gary Graham]] || Matthew Sikes || || 1989 - 1990
|-
|}

 

==H&K SR9 series of Sniper Rifles ==

An HK-91 made to withstand the import ban on firearms. Simply put, it's still a fantastic weapon, even the stars of the movies using them love it. Most of them look like PSG-1s with shorter, thinner barrels and front grips.

''NOTE: Due to the relatively low number of SR9Ts and SR9TCs imported to the United States, '''most of the SR9 variants appearing in Hollywood movies are actually conversions of HK91s done by Hollywood's armorers'''. Most of them lack the forward assist, a feature that the real SR9 series shares with the PSG1. The images here on IMFDB of SR9s are images of actual movie "SR9s".''

The SR9 does '''NOT''' have a forward assist, it uses the standard G3 scope mount which the forward assist would prevent. The T and TC use different furniture, not different recievers. http://www.fototime.com/EF7CB2D7F79B75C/orig.jpg --[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 11:47, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

[[ Image:H&KSR9T.jpg‎ |thumb|400px|right|Heckler & Koch SR9(T). This is a 'faux' SR9(T) movie gun converted from an HK91, with an SG/1 style buttstock (instead of the correct MSG90 style) and PSG trigger pack - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:HKSR9TC.jpg|thumb|400px|right|H&K SR9(TC) rifle with tropical forearm and bipod - 7.62x51mm. The TC version has the PSG buttstock as well as the trigger pack.]]

=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Dog Soldiers]]|| [[Darren Morfitt]] || Private "Spoon" Witherspoon || SR9(T), scope removed, 20-round magazine ||2002
|-
| [[Dog Soldiers]]|| [[Leslie Simpson]] || Private Terry Milburn || SR9(T), scope removed, 20-round magazine ||2002
|-
| [[The Replacement Killers]]||[[Til Schweiger]]|| Ryker || SR9(T) ||1998
|-
| [[U.S. Marshals]]|| || Kentucky State Police officer || SR9(T), 20-round magazine ||1998
|-
| [[G.I. Jane]]||[[Viggo Mortensen]]|| Master Chief Urgayle || SR9(T) ||1997
|-
| [[The Jackal]]||[[Richard Gere]]|| Declan Mulqueen || SR9(TC) ||1997
|-
| [[Heat]]|| || Police Sniper || SR9(T) ||1995
|-
| [[Stargate]]|| [[John Diehl]] || Lt. Kawalsky || SR9(TC) ||1994
|-
| [[Sniper]]|| [[Billy Zane]] || Richard Miller || SR9(TC) ||1993
|-
|}

=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[CSI: Miami]]/Going, Going, Gone || [[David Caruso]] || Lt. Horatio Caine || (SR9(T)) || 2002 -
|-
| [[Space: Above and Beyond]]/ || [[Rodney Rowland]] || Cooper Hawkes || (SR9(T)) || 1995 - 1996
|-
|}

 

==H&K MSG90==

A much more common G3 variant than its predecessor, the PSG-1. The MSG-90 is made to withstand more harsh conditions without sacrificing capability, and coincidentally is a little bit cheaper than the PSG-1.

[[Image:HKMSG90.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch MSG90 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:HKMSG90A1.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch MSG90A1 7.62x51mm NATO]]

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2]] || || || 2007
|-
| [[Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories]] || || || 2005
|-
| [[Soldier of Fortune II - Double Helix]] || || || 2002
|-
| [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City]] || || || 2002
|-
| [[Shadow Force: Razor Unit]] || M25 || || 2002
|-
| [[The World Is Not Enough (video game)|The World Is Not Enough]] || Deutsche SA90 || || 2000
|-
|}

 

==H&K HK21 Machine Gun==

A Belt Fed General Purpose Machine gun based on the G3 Rifle. It is seen in the following:
[[Image:HK21MachineGun.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch HK21 Machine Gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:HK21wBlackFurniture.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch HK21 Machine Gun with black furniture and ammo belt - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[The World Is Not Enough]]||[[Maria Grazia Cucinotta]] || Cigar Girl || Mounted on Speedboat ||1999
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Vegas 2]] || || || || 2008
|-
| [[Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2]] || || || || 2007
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Vegas]] || || || || 2006
|-
| [[Jagged Alliance 2]] || || || Magazine fed HK11 || 1999
|-
|}

=== Anime ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
|[[Kochikame]]||Volvo Saigo||||1998
|-
|}
 

== H&K HK21E Machine Gun ==

Modernized, export version of the HK21 machine gun.
[[Image:HK21E.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch HK21E 7.62x51mm NATO]]

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Battlefield 2]] || || || || 2005
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear]] || || || || 1999
|-
| [[Global Operations]] || |||| || 2002
|-
|}

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Rifle]]
[[Category:Machine Gun]]
[[Category:Sniper Rifle]]

Space: Above and Beyond

2009-10-26T23:51:41Z

Sci Fi Gunner: expanded, links added and screenshots to come soon.

[[Category:Television]]
[[Image:SAABLogo.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|]]
A science Fiction show in 1995, created by James Wong and Glen Morgan, concerning the adventures of the 'Wild Cards', a group of US Marines who must fight an alien threat to the human race. The pilot episode was filmed in Australia with locations in the Australian states of Queensland (e.g Warner Bros. Movie World Studios and the Bond University campus on the Gold Coast) and New South Wales (e.g. RAAF Williamstown air base for the USMC air base) being used for the production. After the pilot episode was made, production was relocated to California, USA for the remainder of the series.

The Following weapons were used in the show:

==M590 Assault Rifle aka "[[Ruger Mini-14]]"==
* The Primary weapon of the USMC in the future (mid/late 21st century) is the fictional M590 Assault Rifle. The real firearm was a Ruger Mini-14 hidden in a custom fabricated shell. In the show the Marines only fired the weapon semi Auto, so the rifles inside were most likely Mini-14s only, and not AC556s. This prop rifle would later be used again in ''The X-Files'' episode "First Person Shooter" as one of the many weapons available to gamers in the virtural reality game of the episode's name.
[[Image:SAABTrio.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Lt. Nathan West (Morgan Weisser), Captain Shane Vansen (Kristen Cloke), and Lt. Cooper Hawkes (Rodney Rowland), pose with their M590 Assault Rifles]]
[[Image:SAABM590.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Artists rendition of the M590 Assault Rifle]]
[[Image:SAABTrio02.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Another promo shot of West, Vansen and Hawkes with their M590 Assault Rifles]]

==M70 Pistol aka "[[Glock 17L]]"==
* The Primary Sidearm of the Space Marines was the Fictional M70 Pistol, which was in reality a Glock 17L with an extended threaded barrel with an AR15 birdcage flash hider attached, along with some other clever additions to mask the gun's identity. The first appearance was orange instead of OD Green with a light inside the flash hider, it was used as a training gun attached to a VR video game/training simulator used by Hawkes in episode 2.
[[Image:G17l.jpg|thumb|none|350px|The Glock 17L, the real gun upon which the M70 was built. An extended threaded barrel was attached to affix the birdcage flash hider - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:SAABLtVDamphousse.jpg‎ |thumb|none|350px|Lt. Vanessa Damphousse (Lanei Chapman) holds her M70 Pistol]]
[[Image:SAAB M-70 Art.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Artists rendition of the M70 Pistol, in reality a modified Glock 17L - 9mm]]
[[Image:SAB-Glock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stunt gun]]

==[[Desert Eagle]]==
* Lt. Colonel T.C. McQueen (James Morrison) is seen in several episodes carrying a Desert Eagle pistol (caliber unknown). It also appears to have been intended to be the original sidearm since Cooper Hawkes can be seen with a Desert Eagle handgun in the Pilot episode when he pointed it at the head of a captured Chig pilot, and one of the other Marines in the third episode was carrying one.
[[Image:DesertEagle357Black.jpg‎|thumb|500px|none|Desert Eagle MK VII - .357 Magnum. The most commonly seen Desert Eagle pistol in films before 1999.]]
[[Image:SAABDesertEagle.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|T.C. McQueen carries a Desert Eagle]]

==[[Heckler & Koch G3#H&K SR9 series of Sniper Rifles|Faux SR9]]==
* Used by Cooper Hawkes on a solo covert ops mission. The butt of the rifle gives away the fact its a "Faux" SR9.
[[ Image:H&KSR9T.jpg‎ |thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch SR9(T). This is a 'faux' SR9(T) movie gun converted from an HK91, with an SG/1 style butt stock (instead of the correct MSG90 style) and PSG trigger pack - 7.62x51mm]]

==[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5SD|Heckler & Koch MP5SD]]==
* Used by the Marines in a night time covert ops mission. The MP5SD3 was also used by the Silicates on numerous occasions.
[[Image:MP5SD3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Heckler & Koch MP5SD3 9mm with Stock Extended.]]

==[[MAC-10]]==
* Used by Silicates at the mining facility (Season 1, Episode 9)
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Ingram MAC 10 open bolt Submachine gun - .45acp]]‎

==[[Steyr AUG]]==
* Used by various characters throughout the series.
[[Image:Steyr-AUG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Steyr AUG - 5.56mm NATO]]

==[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]==
* Seen in the Pilot episode in the hands of the Security personnel when they searched the Telus colony spacecraft before the launch.
[[Image:MP5A3 StockCollapsed.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9mm]]

==Chig Battle Axe/Rifle combo==
* Fictional 'firearm' developed entirely from fibreglass and is not based on a live firearm - fired electronically initiated 9mm blank ammunition.
[[Image:ChigWRifle.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|300px|Chig Warrior (Kristian Sorensen) with his fictional weapon]]

Sea Patrol

2009-10-22T02:53:48Z

Sci Fi Gunner: 2 new

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2009-10-22T02:45:52Z

Sci Fi Gunner: Category: Screenshot

[[Category: Screenshot]]

File:CZ 75 SP Chris Blake.png

2009-10-22T02:45:51Z

Sci Fi Gunner: Category: Screenshot

[[Category: Screenshot]]

Sea Patrol

2009-09-20T02:42:45Z

Sci Fi Gunner: updated slightly

File:Sp Beretta 2.png

2009-09-20T02:38:50Z

Sci Fi Gunner: uploaded a new version of "Image:Sp Beretta 2.png"

[[Category: Screenshot]]

File:SP AK2.png

2009-09-20T02:35:47Z

Sci Fi Gunner: uploaded a new version of "Image:SP AK2.png"

[[Category: Screenshot]]

User talk:MT2008

2009-08-29T00:09:12Z

Sci Fi Gunner: /* Is Seven Days on the ari? */

==RE Hulk==
What in particular doesn't meet the standards(don't worry I'm not trying to be smart). If you are refering to the "bigass gun" comment on the m249 para/m203 that is not my doing. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 20:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
==airsoft==
I don't like, Tokyo Marui that much. But I have handled a 1911 , a double barreled shotgun, an M1 Garand, M4A1 and proudly the P220 and USP compact .357 sig.
==Sig 228==
The one on the [[Negotiator]], i think it is a 228 because it has a shorter barrel, but i can't tell exactly since there is a tactical flashlight and makes me unable to see the trigger guard, but I am still really young to be interested in guns!!( I am under 18! even under 15!) and its strange that the 228 has no markings on it. And the outer barrel shape of the P228 is quite different so, once again, sorry for my rude edits.
==Recent Weapon Articles==
Listen, I have not uploaded the last articles for no reason becouse they were used in particular movies/video games. I have thorougly read your policy on uploading exotic Trial/Research weaponry and have followed it since you last told me.
[[User:Cutaway]]
==Sorry about my edits.==
Sorry, I am really sorry, I am new to this website.
==Norinco Type 54/questionable conversation==
'''Cool, I have a Type 54. Frame mounted safety, 9mm clearly marked Norinco (will take pictures if you wany). I may have missed some SKSs in Platoon, feel free to add them to the page. I hope you guys don't see me as that guy you always have to correct. His use of the word "especially" makes it sound like I fucked up major and it needs your help big time. No biggy, just wondering. Let me know bout the Type 54. (It was found by a friend of my dad's, hidden in a construction site, so he may say no since it could be illegal but it should be okay).'''
'''P.S: I could have sworn they made a MAC-9 model, but I'm assuming you'd know more. Sorry if I'm wrong''' -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]

::'''He okayed it, I'll photo edit them to make them Semi-professional looking.
:'''Sorry I haven't got the pictures done yet, I've been pretty busy. Expect them some time this week.'''-GM
===Back for a bit===
''Nice to see you're back on the site! Hope you've seen some of GunMaster45's recent work (especially on Heartbreak Ridge and Platoon.) Anyway, I'm curious...do you by chance have a Chinese Type 54 copy of a Tokarev in your company's inventory? I ask only because I've seen those in quite a few movies, and I figure we should have a picture of one for this site. Also, I thought that only Chinese Tokarevs have the frame-mounted safety? I have little experience with them, but I thought I remembered reading that...please educate me if I'm wrong! ''

Yes, GunMaster45 did good work on the [[Heartbreak Ridge]] page. He put on screen caps proving that there were slab side M16s as well as A1s, so that I didn't have to do it. :) I still think that some of the screen shots he attributed to Chinese AKs in [[Platoon]] are in fact SKS rifles. But I will have to do a detailed scan of Platoon to verify that the rifles that I think are SKS rifles are indeed SKSs. Hope he doesn't get annoyed, but I noted some errors in the [[MAC-10]] page. I will also be posting pics of the MAC-10 in 9mm and also closeups of the Sten vs MAC-10/9 mags to clarify my remarks. But I will correct ANY error that I see, and of course, I tend to get a little testy when MY stuff is deleted or changed ... hahahaha. I just get high strung because I deal with crazy people every day. I'm in a bad mood now because JOSH BROLIN, you know, that oscar nominated actor dude, just fucked up one of my handguns. The trigger guard is completely bent. I mean, how the hell do you bend a trigger guard of a Police Chief Special? unless you ran over it with a truck? It's F**king amazing. I can't believe how actors or (non gun wrangler) prop persons can completely screw up GUNS in a few minutes more than the abuse of a real shooter over the span of years... And they look at me like I'm an idiot when I say "HEY!? what the hell did you do to MY gun?!?!" Sorry, gotta deal with crap every day, from folks who don't know squat about guns AND they abuse me as well ! hahahaha. Anyway, I wish I could take you to the set for just ONE day, to see the crap I gotta deal with. On another note, I am trying to get to the Battlestar Galactica set before they tear it all down. :) I will just be a visitor since it's in Canada and I'm not an authorized armorer in that country.

I don't have a Chinese Tokarev, I will try to find someone who does. Again, I hope I don't seem obnoxious, but I own 99% of these guns and have decades of experience with them. gotta apologize in advance ...hahaha ... there is always a bit of a knee jerk reaction that I get when I see info coming from any source (and that means all posters) that doesn't own or handle the firearms in question, and I have to do my best to quell that knee jerk response :) But I can always run to the gun safe, pull out the gun in question and take pictures of them. I got pics of some of the MATRIX guns so I will try to post them.

===[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]===
I figured that it was something to do with the foreign exchange. I had an assumption it was similair to how the Glocks are in generations, 1s being the oldest ones with the least new feattures, 2s being slightly better, and 3s being the newest. I've also seen the R models with the tactical rails and moaybe that is a 3rd gen variation as well.

It was only a thought that they could be like Glocks as that was my best guess. We should pobably find whoever labeled it P220-1 and ask him why he did that. With Glocks, the generations labeling is very simple.(I'l explain since I've tried very hard to remember all the Glocks and facts.)

* 1st Generation: The original models first started in production in 1983. They had a flat nose at the end of the frame, a flat handle, no decocking safety, and I believe no white night outlined sights. They had magazines built to swell when fully loaded so when in the gun, they would'nt drop out if the mag release was pressed accidentally. That is why they have thumb wells on the bottom of the grip, so you can pull it out with ease. I own a Glock 17 1st genration from 1986 and it was one of the 300th built. It has an ugly set of night sights(probably added much later) and they are adjustable. The mag swells when I put it in the gun loaded but falls out with ease when unloaded. It's a nice gun but I'd rather have a 3rd gen with original sights.
*2nd Generations.: Started in the 1990, they built Glocks with a slightly more curved frame nose, finger stepping and cut notches in the back of the grip. They dropped the swelling mag idea and made mags you could drop straight out of the gun for a quick tactical reload.
*3rd Generations: Started in 2000, they added tactical rails to the frame nose, finger notches for a better grip still(as if stepping wasn't enough?) and a thumb groove.

Now that the mags don't swell anymore, they make plugs to close up those thumb wells which makes sense since getting mud or other crap in there would be annoying to clean out.

As for SIG-Sauers, I've held one a long time ago and other than what I read and see, my experiance with them is poor. I'll have to go and buy a P220 and a P226 and see how they work. My dad has this encyclepedia of guns with every models of all guns made so I'll flip through that sometime. It stops at 2004 so he needs a new book.

I'll add this here because I need to tell someone. I added a beautiful stainless compensator to my M1911A1 and it is great. To install it, we had to ground down the spring cover so it would fit the comp. properly, as the guy I bought it from on Ebay says it fits all 1911s but it was built for ones with guide rods. Still got it to work well. I'll upload pictures very, very soon. The gun needs to be reblued as the slide is a WWII A1 slide and the frame is a M1911 original WWI frame from 1913. I will soon add 3 dot night sights, a stainless long type 3 holed trigger and maybe some hogue finger groove grips(but the orinal 1913 wood grips might just stay). The mainspring housing has grooves in it so it can accept a wooden stock, which I have, along with the 16in barrel, so it can all be legal and friendly. As soon as you respond, I'll post the pic here for you.

Err, maybe not, the camera isn't working right. I'll try it tommorow I guess.

Thanks for correcting the [[The Rock]] page, I was up til 7:00am screencapping and uploading the movie and my brain wasn't to full capacity. I noticed things like Goodspeeds Beretta had a somewhat smaller barrel and I was ''way'' too tired to find a stock picture for every gun so thanks for finding all of them. Finding good screenshots isn't easy. They used Berettas and Commandos so much in the movie I had over 20 screens each, so I had to drop a few. As for the Beretta 92SB, you'd think I'd notice as I'm the one who made the column of the Beretta page for it. I was tired and so distracted by the grips, I missed the trigger guard and inproperly classified it. But as long as your around to clean up after me, all should be fine. You clearly know more about the Colt Commando than me, that's for sure.

With screencapping the process is very aggravating. I play the DVD in my computer's player. I find the guns based on my memory of the best shots in the movie. I press "P" which captures the shot as a screenshot. I save it. Now after finding maybe 50+ screencaps for the whole movie, I go to my photoshop editor. I take every picture and convert the file from a BMP to a JPG. If the movie is widescreen, I crop out the black bars.(although I just started doing this.) Then I upload every single picture to the site and build the pages and links. I wish I got payed to do it, it's really very time consuming. But it is worth it for the knowledge of other people, right? [[Last Action Hero]] was the worst. I had over 100+ screens and there were 33 guns in that movie and I put them all in. The Funeral section was the hardest part as over 100 people pulled out guns and I identified what I could. The screens for that movie came out well, but the DVd's quality was about VHS and it looked terrible. Hopefully it was worth it though. -[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==A pic and an update==
Hey there. Got a few minutes. When I get a few minutes, I will be changing the several pages where we explore the different natures of guns (the US Marshals page , the M16 page and the Sahara Page). I will be clarifying the SP1 Sporter to a Colt Sporter Carbine, since I've seen both the version you posted (and the ones I have access to are actually still marked M16A1, so they were converted with a sporter TOP receiver after the fact. I am also going to take another pic of a Colt 733 that's actually marked Colt 733. My previous 733 pic turned out to be a conversion of an M16 receiver to a 733 looking gun. I am also cleaning up the ''[[Sahara]]'' page since I asked a few armorer/experts locally and they all think it's the foreign equivalent of the Romanian WASR-3 AK gun that we imported into this country. I don't know what the foreign countries called their version, but the best I can do is list it as the closest version that's verifiable in this country.

Here's a pic for you. Why am I grumpy sometimes? cuz, I am STILL looking at a rack of 24 AKMs that need cleaning. I still have to clean 17 AR-15 rifles. And the vault has all the stuff that needs either a major cleaning/refinishing or fixing. The tagged ones need replacement parts.

Now here's a pop quiz. Can you ID any of the guns in my 'to do list' vault? ;) Let me know if you can ID any of them. LOL!
[[Image:FixerVault.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|click on the image for a bigger pic.]]

==Long barreled AKs==
Wow! You did it. Amazing. No, I don't know what the hell that AK is. I've never seen an underfolder Long barreled AK for sale in the U.S. So it must be an Australian/Canadian thing. I guess that's a mystery we will have to bug the foreign armorers about. Wasn't there a Canadian armorer here on IMFDB a while ago? I don't remember well. Anyway, I also hope you don't think I was too harsh re: the HEAT updates. The vast majority of IMFDB users seem to be guys who are too young to buy a handgun, and some are too young to have a driver's license. Anyway I gotta take a break and get back to some movie sets here. :) I will try to get pics of the more famous guns when I can. But my contributions will drop down until I get some more free days. Thanks again. MPM2008

==Re: Your Articles==
I completly understand what you mean. I'll do my best to add guns to the pages from now on. Like you said, it's a pain in the ass when there is over 30 guns but I'll do it from now on. I'lve just finished screencapping Eraser but I might wait till tommorow to upload it, its been a long day, perhaps tonight. I'll make sure to add the pictures on that one. I assume there's about 20 or so guns. Thanks for pointing that out. By the way, what is the language rules for this site, because I wrote the "F" word on the [[Heartbreak Ridge]] page and I'm not sure that's allowed. The question is right under the picture in the M16 section. I'll do my best to be more considerate to editors like you. My main goal is to make a page flawless and immune to your corrections, but so far no dice. (Although, I'm unaware whether or not you checked the [[Last Action Hero]] page because it had no correction notes. Did I do it? - [[USer:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==re:Sahara==
''It's kinda strange, though...I wouldn't have figured British armorers would use civilian AK variants that were essentially geared towards the U.S. firearms market.''

re: British armorers, I've never met Sascha Robey. All I know is that Robey did the guns for the American TV Miniseries "The path to 9/11" but only the sequences shot in Morocco.

A lot of armorers are just the 'licensed experts' on the set. They subrent their guns from large armories. That's why I don't have screen credit for many majors I worked on, since I wasn't the on set armorer, I just rented them the guns (like any vendor) and we only rent to armorers (''aka weapons wranglers'') that we know and trust. I think Robey got the guns from Bapty's movie armory of London (just an educated guess).

When I was going to school at Cambridge University (a long time ago) I did get to visit Bapty's Armory (got to see a lot of the guns used in all those movies shot at all those BIG British Studio stages - like the 007 movies). Well the Romak 223 is the import name for the 'castrated' gun that our lovely BATFE allows to be imported. The romanians made a bunch of identical guns for sale to other countries where civilians can own semiautomatic rifles. I noticed that Zahn's gun had (a) a threaded front end of the barrel and (b) a bayonet lug, which usually imported guns after 1990 had to have removed. So it's probably a Romanian export gun that the British armorers picked up that has not been modified to be imported into the U.S. Sigh.... to be able to get such unaltered guns again. Now we have a bunch of US makers upgrading and making their own AKs, but I like the 'appeal' of getting stuff that's really FOREIGN and foreign built in a factory in a far off land. Even though the lowly British law abiding citizen can't own Squat, their movie armorers can get almost anything they need. UNLIKE the U.S. (especially California) which makes it more difficult to be a movie armorer every year.

BTW: I uploaded a detail shot of the Type 84 with the features I was talking about. I hope it helps.

best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Sahara==
Thanks for the help on the typo with the Norinco Type 56-1. As you probably know by the time stamps I edited that at 2:00 am PST and was pretty tired. Thanks for catching stuff like that.

But Zahn's gun is not the Type 84 despite the fact that the gas tube has vent holes like the Type 65/84 guns. The Type 84 is a deep blued finish, this gun has the semi gloss black paint finish of European AKs, the Magazine is NOT a Type 84 (not even close), but it does resemble the newer Romanian Romak 223 magazines (thus my question), and the front sight is an open top European AKM style, not the hooded .75" spaced Type 84 Front sight and finally the gas block is missing a notch that the Type 84 has and it looks lke the front sight sling is attached to the front of the handguards (AKM) and not on the gas block (Type 84). '''I looked at a Type 84 before I posted the pics, so I am sure that it is NOT a type 84''', there are too many differences that an armorer just wouldn't do (like repainting a blued gun or replacing the front sight or using a magazine that I am not sure would even fit in the magazine well). In fact if they did replace the Type 84 front sight block with an AKM sight, you would be able to see the notch in the top of the barrel of the second pin for the wider front sight. It would be visible. The smaller AKM sight doesn't cover it on the barrel. So again I will try to figure out what type of AK it is. Since Sahara is a newer movie it would well be a recent US built or US part upgraded imported AK rifle.

ON another note:

So what do you think of the screen caps? I purposely kept the Zahn pics big temporarily so the details of the gun could be seen. But i've noticed that whenever I work hard on a largely ignored page, THEN people start tweaking it, after I've put in hours working on it and before I'm finished :) what's up with that? Just the way things work I guess. :)

(But YOUR input is always welcome. I haven't shot any new gun pics yet. I usually wait until I have several dozen items to photograph before I go through the trouble of setting up a white background). Best regards
MPM2008

== Thanks for the help ==

Thanks for helping out on some of my articles, specifically ''[[The Siege]]'' and ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]''. I just recently got the ability to take screenshots from DVD's on my computer, but don't have either of those. Keep up the good work. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

== Guns in ''The Siege'' ==

You actually got a picture of the [[Browning M2]] in one of your [[M60 machine gun|M60]] screenshots, namely the one where it's being fired during the Redhook chop shop scene. As for the [[M203 grenade launcher|M203]], look closely at one of the soldiers keeping the press mob out of the stadium. Also, don't forget the [[Heckler & Koch MP5|H&K MP5]]'s during the bus hijacking/bombing scene. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:23, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

:: Here's the screenshot in question; the barrel is definitely too long to be a [[Mk 19 grenade launcher]]. Note that it also lacks the muzzle brake as well.

[[Image:Vlcsnap-182525.jpg‎|none|500px]]

[[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

== Good to have you back. :) ==

Backups are automatic and daily now - 4 am every day and automatically uploaded to seperate servers for archival. :)

You can't merge a page - but you can copy all the content from one to another and then drop a line to an admin to redirect the old page to the new one. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I've redirected the pages you requested. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 14:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

==hello==
Hi there. Just thought I'd seek to clarify the Red Dawn discussion, per your suggestion.

The MISR may have been the Egyptian's name for the gun in their factories overseas (several books refer to it, Clinton Ezell's book mentions it in 1986), but my point was that the Egyptians never marked or called their export gun to the U.S. - the MISR. In fact the only MISR guns that were legally imported into the U.S. (marked MISR) were after 1990 and they were 'post ban' guns, hastily hand 'etched' with the words "MISR" on the trunion.

I was probably nit picking since I don't know if alot of people really cared which import version was used in what movie. I wouldn't really care, BUT ... when people say MISR, everyone here in the states, automatically thinks of the post 1990 thumbhole monstrosities, not the better crafted ARMs of the early 1980s. I know for a fact that Syd Stembridge (who worked on Red Dawn and I spoke to about it) scoffed and thought of the crappy 'post ban MISR rifles' when I mentioned it to him. He said "Nope, we used ARMs not MISRs". So even he was thinking about the MISR imported gun. Hmmmmm.

Does it matter? I don't know. I'm tempted to edit out the discussion entirely, but I'm not sure how. Perhaps a note addressing what the imported versions actually had stamped on them (and had written in their owners manuals). What do you think?

A little bit of my background: :)

I was buying Maadi rifles back in 1983 (before Red Dawn came out). Thus I remember what they were called at the time. At no time had I ever seen the rifles referred to a MISR back in 1984 or earlier. Sales brochures, invoices, company documentation. That's really the only reason I was convinced that Maadi did not ship guns to US under that name.

I own nearly every variant of AK imported into this country prior to 1999. That includes ARMs, RPLs, MISRs, AKS-47, Type 84s, Type 56 Sporters, MAK-90s, SA-85s, Yugo M76s, etc. etc.

Any way. You've done a GREAT job updating and posting things. I don't want to give the impression that I don't realize that you're a super contributor.

Any way, keep up the fantastic work. :) and looking forward to your thoughts re: the re-edit of the page.

best regards
'''MoviePropMaster2008'''

==I am re-editing Red Dawn==
It just hit me. I can cut out all my rantings and just put in a note, that the MISR rifle is not referring to the post ban imported version call the 'MISR' and was imported under the name ARM. If that's okay, I'll cut out all the stuff under your original paragraph. Thanks. MoviePropMaster2008

==Type 84==
No problem. I will be happy to hunt down the Type 84 (the vault is big and kinda a pain to go through) ;) . I converted a bunch to AK74 though (i.e. put on the imported Russian parts and gas tubes, front sights, etc. to make them 'look' like AK74s. But I might have one left that is not all messed up. I don't believe that I have any left that retain the original Chinese 'fully enclosed' sight hood any more, unfortunately. Will this do? I can also put the original factory wood back on for the photo. Do you want it in original factory configuration? I can also put it into the SAME config as any of the movie or projects you want it for (i.e. put hungarian Blonde wood on them, etc.). Just let me know. It might take some time, though. I have to set up the photographic white table top setup all over again and will probably wait until I have a bunch of guns to photograph before I do it again. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== ''Incredible Hulk'' Grenade Launchers ==

I was under the impression the multi-shot grenade launchers in ''[[The Incredible Hulk (2008)|The Incredible Hulk]]'' were some sort of [[Milkor MGL]] derivative, like the M32? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

== My two cents on the Hulk Launchers ==
It looks like the back end of a Def tech 37mm launcher but the front end of a M32. Also the cylinder (and rotator mechanism) doesn't look like anything out there. It's too short to be the DEFTECH but the rotator gear is in the '''back''', not the '''front''', like it should be on the M32. The Milkors have a 'pop up' back end and the style of the buttstock looks completely different. I think it's a "Frankenstein gun" - perhaps the prop dept. took several Deftech 37mm launchers and chopped and styled them to resemble the M32. Check out the comparison pic and let me know what you think. :) Best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008|]] (P.S. - I don't hang out with the armorers in Canada being that we never cross paths. I wish I could so that I could ask them).

[[Image:Hulk-Launcher-Comparison1.jpg]]

I'll send you a pic of that very launcher from the shop.

==Your CZ99 pic==
I cleaned up your CZ99 pic in Photoshop. It's the same pic, but color corrected. Can I repost it? Thanks. [[user:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Editing Dogs of War==
I am thinking of doing some more updates on Dogs of War, hope you don't mind. ;) GOOD CALL! on the "imitation" Uzis in "Raw Deal" and "Stripes". In Stripes I thought you were talking about "Winger" (Bill Murray) but he was holding an unadorned MAC-10, but you were right, it was Joe Flaherty as the Czech border guard who had the "uzi cover" on the MAC-10. You have an eagle eye! Most people would have missed that one! Those guns were 'conversions' made by Special Effects Unlimited, Inc. in the 1970s. The company did mostly pyrotechnics (Stembridge, Ellis Mercantile and ISS were the kings of 'just guns' back then) and in the movie Dogs of War, they simply didn't have enough real Uzis. (In the 1970s it was pretty hard to get real uzis, IMI just wasn't importing them in big numbers. The import explosion came during the 1980s. Movies like Uncommon Valor, Red Dawn, Rambo, Commando, Death Wish 2-5, etc. all fueled an "action movie flood" that also included all of the really crappy GOLAN&GLOBUS movies like the post apocalyptic movies or the Chuck Norris Movies. Special Effects Unlimited went away in the early 1980s. When I got into the biz, there were about 30 movie gun rental houses and hundreds of trained wranglers in California. Now there are about five rental houses, with less than a dozen independent wranglers. Thanks to the draconian gun control that California shoves down our throat every year. No wonder the movies are all filming in Canada or Australia. Their armorers don't have the BS that we have to deal with. :(

One of the interesting things is the 'work arounds' that movie armorers do. We don't have access to every gun or destructive device that comes down the pipe in the real world. A lot of times the stuff just isn't available when a movie is being made, so we have to 'fake it'. I remember having to 'fake' the Steyr TMP out of a Cobray M11 because the TMP had just come out and the film's director 'just had to have it', but it wasn't being imported into this country yet. I had a model builder mold a dummy and then cast it as two halves of a clamshel mold and screwed it on to the M11. hahahaha.

You and some of the other guys have done a great job on that page!!! I love the screen caps, if I knew how, I'd do it too :D I don't know if my 'overabundance of information' on the background of a movie is either 'wanted' or 'necessary'. Feel free to edit if my info seems irrelevant, but I always try to 'keep it short' :) I think I can photograph some of the actual guns from DOGS of War, unfortunately they've been refinished, some have been altered. I'll drop a note when I get to take the pics and post them. :)

[[UserId#MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Raw Deal page and other thoughts==
You have to put up the Raw Deal page(!!) I was going to do it, but you have all the cool screencaps! :)

[[Image:Vlcsnap-59747.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
Note that from this angle, the barrel is obviously a thin metal tube (just enough to extend the MAC-10 barrel). It's not thick enough to be a 9mm or .45 acp barrel. Great screencap! :) BTW: those were 9mm MAC-10s not the .45 acp MAC-10s. The nines were easier to blank adapt, and the blanks had that nice hot white flash in front. They look identical, except for the markings on the receiver.

I'm holding off putting the AKM shot in the Red Dawn Page. I'm still looking for one with an original Laminated buttstock. I'm positive I can take a pic of an 'undamaged' one. Thanks again for your input. :) It's been a little slow in the biz, but next week I might be getting some gigs, and in July I'm traveling on some projects so I will be gone. best regards [[UserId#MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Type 56==

(Warning: this is from my own recollection and not official in any way) :)

Hmmm. it's a tough one. Since there is no 'official' designation it's hard to figure. And what always throws me is the 'official name' of the gun around the world and the 'official imported' name of the gun when it was sold here in the United States. Since this is a 'guns in the movies' site, I usually throw out the book on the '' 'official international nomenclature of the guns as used by foreign armies' '' and noting what the guns were called when movie weapons armorers were bringing them to the movie set. But the trend on the site, so far, has been to list the guns as what it's supposed to be representing (like calling obvious AR-15s, "M16s") in the real world. I just like to have some sort of footnote as to what weapons were actually used and what they were really called. :)

I've always regarded the 56 as a 47 offshoot. I don't think the other armorers have given it much thought, but I know that they'll always refer back to the AK47, not the AKM when anyone asks them what the Type 56 is based on.

'''I'll list my criterion and let me know what you think. '''

''Now we all know that the Chinese barrels are slightly different in diameter to all the European barrels but for the most part, the Chinese Type 56 parts are clones of the 47 not the AKM.''

1) The Chinese started their Type 56 copy with milled receivers. Around the 1960s the Soviets changed to stamped receivers in the 'modernized' AKM. The Chinese thought that was a good idea, and began production with stamped receivers, but '''everything''' else remained the same.

:(a) the front sight (.75" versus .5" width for the AKM)
:(b) the gas block (the angle AND the fact that it is not "notched" for gas release like the AKM)
:(c) the Gas tube (the AK47s have vent holes, the AKMs do not)
:(d) the Gas tubes are NOT interchangeable between the AKM and the AK47/Type 56 (I've tried, the angle of the back of the gas tube is different)
:(e) the pin placement in the receiver itself (the AK47 and the AKM have different pin placements)
:(f) the smooth versus ribbed dust cover
:(g) the wood furniture (the AK47 & Type 56 have smooth side crate wood - the AKM has bulged grip laminated - the buttstocks have a different comb and are different types of wood)
:(h) other than the wood for the gas tube and the pistol grip, the wood forearm and buttstock are '''NOT interchangeable''' between the AK47/56 and the AKM - you need to 'fit' the wood with a rasp and file.
:(i) in the underfolder stock versions the stocks of the Type 56 & AK47 are interchangeable, you need to modify them slightly to fit the AKM underfolder. Also the Underfolder 'arms' of the AK47/56 are smooth, the AKM underfolder arms are 'ribbed'.
:(j) the pistol grips for the 47/56 were wooden with a metal border near the receiver, the AKMs were all composite or plastic grips. This doesn't take into account the dealers or importers who may have swapped grips on their own, I'm just talking about the way they were exported off the factory floor.
:(k) I don't know if this is official or not, but I've personally tried to swap the bolts from AK47s/Type 56s and AKMs and the AKMs 'stick' when put into the 47/56 guns. The gun doesn't cycle ''(and it's probably not all that safe 'headspace' wise (hahaha), but it's a lot safer when all you're shooting is blanks.....)''. It could be the bolt carrier and piston assembly, but I've noticed that as well.

This is only based on my personal experience, but I'll bet that no one else on the board is as dopey as me and has tried to swap parts between an AKM and a Type 56 and wondered what went wrong ;) hahaha I DO know that we've fixed broken Chinese guns (from the 1980s) with original Soviet AK47 parts kits and the other cosmetic parts did fit (though we had to take into account the slight size difference between the Chinese barrels and all other AKs).

So in my thinking, the only '''difference''' between the Type 56 and the AK47 (other than the obvious Chinese 'style flourishes') is the stamped receiver. Since the AKM instituted a lot more other changes than just a stamped receiver I just consider the Chinese Type 56 series to be a stamped receiver version of the AK47, not the AKM. All the details other than the receiver are "AK47".

Also there is the confusion of how the imported guns were stamped. ALOT of the imported Chinese guns armorers bought in the 1980s were marked "AK47", not AKM. I have samples of Norinco AK type rifles in the 1980s, imported by B-West that are marked either: ''Type 56, Type 56S, Type 56 Sporter, Sporter 56, AK-47, AKS-47, AKS Sporter, AKS-47 Sporter''. The vast majority of guns were indeed stamped AK-47 or AKS-47. (I can take a pic of the marks on the receivers to send to you). So many of the imported Chinese guns were marked AK-47/AKS-47 (as a marketing ploy by the manufacturer since they doubted that most of the American buying public would have any idea what a Type 56 was).

footnote: Only after the import ban of 1989 did we see names like the MAK-90, the NHM-90/91, et. al, those were the first 'thumbhole monstrosities' to enter the country from China.

Since those of us who were buying the guns never referred to them as an offshoot of the AKM, but of the AK47, thats how I've always viewed them. But there is no hard and solid rule. The Chinese guns are their own 'platypus' hybrid.

That's just my 'reasoning' on it, but again, since the Chinese guns are 'hybrids' it doesn't really matter. As long as the rifle types are listed 'SOMEWHERE' on the site, with notations as to what movies they were used in. As has been noted by others, the Chinese guns are by and far the most COMMON AK type to be seen in TV and movies bar none. They were the most plentiful and cheap when they first came out. I know of a prop house in L.A. that was trying to sell of over 400 of them, because they were going out of business (owner died, sons didn't want to continue the family biz).

Again, sorry for my long post. Again, I sometimes wonder, 'when is too much information too much?" I don't want to confuse the users of the site, but the reality is really complex. :) Now don't get me started on the massive 'periodic chart' known as the 'Smith & Wesson Handgun naming chart'.... yeow!!!!

I sure hope it was in some way helpful and informative. :)

==re: Type 56==

Yes, no offense please! :) hahahaha I figured you already knew all the details, but I had to list them just to make sure that I remembered all of the points which brought me to my original conclusion. :) I also remembered the problems of trying to swap the pieces in the past and the total headaches they caused! Hahahaha.

RE: the new page for just Chinese guns - FANTASTIC idea! I didn't think of that myself and would have pretty much yielded to whatever categorization that you thought best, but that's a great solution. '''Are there any SysOps or other super contributors we need to check with? so that they don't start undoing the page? '''

On another note: I will try to take a pic of an unadorned Type 84 by late Thursday night. Is there any other weapon that is not properly represented on this site that I could try to track down and photograph?

Again, always a PLEASURE to discuss stuff with you. And I'll yield to what you think is best. :) best regards
[[UserId#MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==New Images==
Sorry about the delay in the Type 84 pics, but I can't seem to locate the .223 steel magazines. It doesn't look right without it. I will continue to hunt for the correct magazines and get the pic. I just went to the vault and photographed a BUNCH of new stuff. I am also using the pics for marketing purposes, i.e. so that I can email art directors and producers/directors my own images so that they know what the gun looks like, but I am trying to get IMFDB a bunch of ORIGINAL pics found no where else. :) No airsoft guns here. :) All real deal. More to come.

[[Image:FNMAG58.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|FN Mag 58 ]]
[[Image:M249ParaModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|M249 Paratrooper model ]]‎
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|MAC-10]]‎‎
[[Image:RugerMP9Stock.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|Ruger MP9 stock extended]]‎
[[Image:RugerMP9smg.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|Ruger MP9]]

==Updates==
cc'd to: MT2008, Orca1 9904, Charon68 and others... :)
I've been trying to get higher rez original pics to IMFDB for a little bit now. One of the major beefs I have with site like Security arms.org or Guns of the world.ru is that there are some really crappy pics, and lots of those pics are weird hybrid variations that are not good representations of the mainstream version of the firearm. Though I've had some nice comments from a few folks, I need to verify that it's kosher to try to eliminate the bad resolution 'stolen from the net' pics and replace them with original photographs. (granted permission by me the copyright holder) Don't know if I am stepping on anyone's toes or if anyone would be offended that I replaced their image (which was 'borrowed' from the net originally) with another image. If anyone thinks I should NOT be replacing pics on existing pages with new gun images, please let me know. Do the majority of IMFDB users even care? I'm fully expecting '''other sites''' to start stealing images from IMFDB when the level of pics goes up. :) hahahaha.

==Zastava==
I just did it because the Ak page was just getting too huge, and so many Chinese Aks were being used in films to "portray" Russian AKs that it made sense to put the Chinese guns in there. The QBZ-97 is just bullpup versions of AKs but it gets its own page. The Yugo AKs are really different from the other AKs, not as much as the Czech VZ58 which is an entirely different firearm. I know folks want to keep items to one page with a lot of variants, but I thought the entire series of Yugoslavian guns (all the way from the M70 to the M92 and their RPK variants) deserved their own page. You never see the Yugoslavian guns 'masquerading' as Russian or Chinese guns. They are always seen as weapons from the Balkans or Bosnian conflict. Of course the powers that be can always slam me down ;) But I figured it was worth a shot. :)

Let me know what you think. :)

BTW: on another note, I was going to suggest to the senior staff that pages like the KVAR's bullpup kit for the AK (as seen on the gun page [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]] doesn't merit a different page since it is just a commercial after market stock kit that goes on any AK and itself is not a weapon itself. The same goes for the [[Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup]] ... there is no such thing as a Muzzelite MZ14. It is a plastic aftermarket bullpup stock kit that can go on either a Mini14, a 10-22 or a Marlin Camp 9 carbine. It has only ever been seen in movies with a Mini-14 inside. It does not merit a separate page since it is not a real gun, but a stock kit for an existing gun (i.e. the Mini-14). Curious to know what you think of that as well. :) Always good to hear your input.

== Re: ''Lord of War'' ==

I believe the 400px size is just fine for screenshots, as it's usually big enough to give a good view of what's being shown in the image, and you can always click on the image to view it larger if you want. You don't see full-size images posted in articles on Wikipedia, after all. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:24, 4 August 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

== Hey ==

Hey MT2008, I'm [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]], I seen your comment on my talk page about the most guns in movies like [[District B13]], and I would like to wish you good luck with your [[Hard Boiled]] and beating the records for most guns. I work on this site myself once in awhile, the reason you don't see me much on here is because I'm not as active on this site as I used to be, but I still like to do some screencappping once in awhile. I also want to say you take good screenshots and make great pages, so keep up the good work. Also, are you going to do [[Belly]] and [[Boyz n the Hood]] again? not that I'm trying to rush you to do them, I'm just wondering. And again keep up the good work. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Hey again ==

Hey, no problem, and good luck with everything. Good work on cleaning up the Beretta page, it looks much better. Also, you said you like Taurus PT92s, right? Well, I uploaded a screenshot with a very nice looking one for the [[Shooter]] page a week or two ago if you want to check it out. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

Yep, I'm one of moderators, as well as Orca, who I'm sure you met already. if you have any problems with anybody vandalizing or spamming your pages, or anything on this site, just let me know. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

To space out pages, I notice some people just space out the variants as much as they need to until they get the desired effect, it's worth a try. Thanks for complimenting [[Shooter]] by the way, I myself like the Berettas, I always liked the way they look. And about the M1911A1 page, yeah, that page does need work, especially with all those variants that nothing listed for them. Anyway, good luck with the pages, and I'll be sure to help out as much as I can. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

==Question==
Hi MT2008, I was just reading over your profile (because I like to know those I work with) and I noticed the M1911/M1911A1 isn't to be found on your favorite guns page. I'm not trying to preach it to you or anything, but I practically worship the handgun. John M. Browning, possibley the most ingenius gunmaker of all time, pretty much birthed the conventional self-loading pistol. This pistol was so good, it still stayed in US service up until Desert Storm, when the M9 took over (not exactly a loved desision today). Keep in mind, the blowback locking breach action of Browning's 1911 has been used in glocks, USPs, Berettas, and many other handguns today. You can say it is really the grandfather of all handguns. Yet it can't truly be beaten in basic design. His idea was so good, it still is unbeaten today 97 years later. It's simple, reliable, versatile, accurate, powerful, and it hold 7 shots... my lucky number. And capacity isn't a problem with the Para-Ordinance models anymore. Whoops, this strayed from being a question. Like I said, I don't mean to preach, but I just thought I'd let you know. (Plus, Browning thought up that frame mounted slide stop safety you like so much on the PT92.) As always, I like your work and your a great contributor to the site. Keep up the good work, and take in mind what I said. (Note how I wrote an essay on the .45 on the page. All that from well remembered memory. Double checked of course.) [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== ''U.S. Marshals'' Screenshot Needed ==

Hello, I was wondering if you could help me with something? I noticed that you got most of the screenshots for ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'', and I was wondering if you could get one of [[Robert Downey Jr.]] from it, possibly with him using his [[Taurus PT945]] or [[Glock#Glock 22|Glock 22]] for the article on that actor? It would be greatly appreciated.

[[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

==Photo request for SIGP226==
Funny that you'd ask. I tried swapping them in the past. They don't fit. They're the same guns, but the finishes throw the tolerances all off. I can't get a silver slide to even FIT onto a standard black frame and vice versa. I may be able to FORCE it, but the gun won't be fireable. Any two toned guns you see, were either fixed and fitted by a really good gunsmith or were finished by the factory. But it's impossible to swap slides and frames on those guns if they're of different finishes.

==MT2008's question re: Colt Launchers==
Though I may be wrong, I have not heard of a COLT manufactured 37mm launcher. They may have made one, but it is not well known and I can't find any independent verification of it but then I haven't scrutinized all products made by Colt. The photos on the page show a 37mm launcher, but I can't see any Colt markings. These look like the ones that were made by RPB/SWD and of course Cobray as far as I know. Also I know for a fact that 99.99% of the M203 launchers seen in movies are COBRAY manufactured CM203 37mm launchers. Sometimes we pull out the REAL destructive Device M203 (I have access to several) when a film specifically asked for one where they can see more details (the real M203 is a rifled barrel, the 37mm flare launcher is a smooth bore, amongst other differences) but most of them are Cobray 37mm launchers. I will of course yield if I can be pointed to an independent info source or web page that specifically confirms a COLT marked 37mm launcher but right now, I can definitely tell you that all of the 'fake 40mm launchers" I've seen on movie/television sets are Cobray or RPB or SWD manufactured 37mm launchers. I'm pretty sure anything built by Colt would have the Colt logo stamped on the item. If you verify any info on Colts, please pass it along :) Sigh. On another note, I guess I will have to photograph my M203s in detail for this site as well. MPM2008

(Edit), Well I've been looking for a while and even checked the full listings of weapons currently manufactured and distributed by Colt Inc, Colt LLC or any of the other possible names for COLT. As far as I know, Colt does NOT make 37mm Launchers. Why should they? They make the 40mm Launchers. I've done a google search and as far as 30 pages in, I've never found ONE reference to a 37mm launcher that was not a Cobray/SWD/RPB manufacture or the M203 Airsoft model (which some gun writers, or sellers wrongly confuse with a flare launcher.)

I am in support of eliminating the Colt Flare Launcher page, since I can find no evidence to support it. Please reply and let me know your thoughts.

==Thanks==
Hope you don't think I'm badgering you. Just trying to be thorough. :) re: research into the CFL page. Anyway, I really gotta run now, I got tons of weapons to organize and deal with.... and people are waiting for me. :) Thanks again. MPM2008

==Reply==
About the Mossberg 500s, I believe a cruiser comes standard on the gun, os they are most likely 500s with pistol grips or they had the heat shields removed.

==More pics==
Hope you like the new pics. I've been going NUTS photographing M16s hahahahaha and I finally uploaded the M14 pics that Gunmaster Requested :) Hey, I even got a Diemaco C7 ! ;) I will try to get a shot of THAT. :) I can only do a few weapons a day since it takes longer than expected to photograph them. I did finally get to photograph my Remington PSS 700. I hope to do the Type 84 sometime soon, but I have to tear some of them down to original configuration and that takes some time. I want to get better M4 Pics and M4 with accessories. I am also going to photograph more of my FALS and G3 variants when I get the chance. And I will try to figure out a way to do your P226 shots. :) Best regards MoviePropMaster2008.

==XM177==
Some good news. I now have Every variant of the original XM177s. It took a while since so many of them were in 'pieces'. Including at least three variations of the 'fake' XM177s that we see in movies like [[Blood Diamond]]. I am really looking forward to posting good shots of all the XM177 guns. I think that IMFDB is the only place on the web that will have these pics. I may have to get an airsoft gun just to show the difference, since so many of the shots here on IMFDB are airsoft guns (ugh!). MPM2008 ''(Edit: Damned IMFDB logged me out in the middle of my post to you! Weird). Well It's really ME typing this, not some unknown IP address.)''

== Re: Beretta ==

Thanks for the correction, the 92 FS thing was from the other articles I copied and pasted from to get things done faster, but I'll be sure to use the correct spelling for now on. And thanks for uploading the Beretta used in the film, it's very cool. Also, what do you think of [[Die Hard with a Vengence]] now? --[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:57, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

There you go, I uploaded the scene you talked about and noted that they were really BB guns, let me know if the screencap is good enough--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

==RE:Dirty Harry==
That's what I meant by in full, by actually screencapping the movie 100% second by second. I never understood why people would screencap half a page and then stop, is it lazyness or something? I always go second by second through a movie and grab as many good shots as possible. To me, you can never have too many shots of one gun, as my 15 AKM shots in Rambo II will show soon. I also had plans to eventually add some shots to Saving Private Ryan like how I added shots to BB2 and Black Hawk down just to make it more full and maybe tears of the sun. I'm kinda sick today but I'll try to get Rambo II uploaded as soon as I can.

==Re: Your comment on the Rambo II HK93==
Though that is a reasonable assumption, there is no evidence that the gun was a 93. When I was at the Stembridge gun room in the 1980s I distinctly recall that there were as many HK33s as there were HK93s. I know, nowadays, that seems weird, but not so weird when we could import anything we wanted back in the day.... Thanks. The guns which were TONS of conversions were the MP5s (originallyi HK94s), AR15s into M16s and ARMs/Type 56s into full auto AKs. Just noting ... BTW: Now that I submitted a shot of my HK33, I'm photographing my HK93. Sure hope folks (other than you :) ) appreciate all the original gun pics .... hahaha. best regards, MPM2008

==Finally put the MP5A5 in==
That's been bugging me for a long time. The MP5A5 picture wasn't even an A5. Finally got the correct pic in. :) Am staring at a rack of shotguns that I have to photograph for the site, but gotta get to it. :)

==Saving Private Ryan==
What do you think of the new and improved [[Saving Private Ryan]] page? -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]

:Thanks, I can't stand watching the debates but I thought I'd share how I own an M1 Garand myself. A battle hardened Garand that served in WWII and was then Re-Issued in Korea. It is fitted with the Korea era sling. And the best part. Only $600 bucks! I had a WWII guns phase and me and my father did a lot of searching. Still wish I could get an M1A1 Thompson and a B.A.R. Too hard to get cheap and legal though. -GM

::I also have two clips for it in my room, one of which is load with dummy rounds so I can cycle it. Most people think the clip pings when it hits the ground but it pings as it leaves the gun. Also, the little button on the left side allows you to do what some rocking chair commandos say is immpossible. RELOAD. Pull the bolt back and press it and the clip pops out no matter how loaded it is. I can also field strip it and clean it. It shoots nice too.
:And on the A-Team page, I sent a message to Bunni on how only registered users should be able to edit the site. Unregistered users should only view. It would make all our lives a lot easier, don't you think? I'll fix it now.

==Garand Pics==
My M1 rifle:
[[Image:100 2842.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1 Garand rifle with En-Bloc clip, loaded with dummy rounds.]]
[[Image:100 2843.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The gun is too long for one clear shot! This is the barrel end, note '50s era Korean war sling.]]
[[Image:100 2844.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The En-bloc clip loaded half way in the Garand.]]
:Pretty cool, huh? I'm gonna upload more on my page so everyone can see my neat stuff.

==Edit--
Removed the old Airsoft pic of the 870 . :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:50, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

==Ask and Ye shall Receive==

This is the best I can do. My Sigs aren't exactly the same as some of the movie guns by other armorers. They ARE blank adapted movie guns and they ARE well worn, due to abuse by actors and stuntmen but we all know that. :) Can you use these? You're the first one to see them. I haven't even added them to the SIG page because they're special pieces.

[[Image:SigP226TwoTone01.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px]]
[[Image:SigP226TwoTone02.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px]]

==Two Tones part 2==
:''Thank you SO much! Those look great, and actually, they look very close to the ones that have appeared in quite a few movies. We can start replacing the two-tone SIG pics that we have on our other pages with these immediately! Again, I greatly appreciate you doing this for me. ''

Here is another one. I forgot to swap out the silver hammers (based on the pic with John Travolta, so here is one. I've seen it in every configuration. Sometimes the factory does it, so there are lots of opposite color highlights (trigger, breakdown pin, safety, etc.) and then there are the simple 'swap the barrel & Slide' variety.

[[Image:SigP226TwoTone03.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Two tone Sig P226 with SILVER HAMMER this time]]

:''How will I ever repay you?''

Lots of booze, gold and women... ;)

:''Out of curiosity, since you told me that they usually don't fit, how did you make them work together? -MT2008 ''

Oh they fit, but you have to force it and they won't cycle. The black slide SIG, when you pull the slide back (you have to pull it HARD) it won't even move forward. You have to tap it with a mallet to make it slide forward to cycle a round. Also you can fire one blank out of the gun and the slide will 'stick' back even with a full magazine. Unless the factory does it (which they do) you have to take it to a smith to 'fit' the parts. Fun Huh? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==More of your questions answered==
Sorry about that but these smaller questions get lost in the shuffle.

* Why didn't Stembridge convert HK94s further? Answer: They did. There were lots of conversion kits available in the 1980s (a lot through Shotgun news). Paddles and full auto trigger packs with the SEF lowers were also available from many vendors back in the day. A lot of Stembridge's guns, scratch that, MOST of the MP5s were converted HK94s. Why? Back in the day a factory FULL AUTO MP5 was $2500. An HK94 (from 1983-1988) was about $699.00 at the local sporting goods store. Wholesale it was about $499.00 Convert it in shop and pay the $200 tax stamp, it's still way cheaper than buying a new MP5 (at the time). They still used full auto HK94s until they closed (the first time) in 2000. Alot of the MP5s were conversions done all the way (with new barrels, paddles and lower trigger packs). Heck, we do that too. If we have an old MP5 we just put a new lower on it and ta-dah! MP5A5! etc. etc. If you see more obvious HK94 conversion guns, it's just that those are the ones grabbed off the rack. Or else they ran out of the fully 'tricked out' ones.

* Is the SIG P220 Sport from Cinema Weaponry? Answer: No, it's mine. :) BTW Mike Papac from Cinema Weaponry is off on the east coast shooting some film with Mel Gibson right now, so I can't ask him trivia questions about the films he worked on. At least until he and I do lunch again. ;)

* AK Shorty? Answer: I will check with Harry Lu when I see him, but he's working A LOT and isn't in town all that often. But I will try.

* How do we feel about anti gun projects? Answer: normally it's not an issue. Most of the time, we don't even know the SCRIPT for the movie. We're probably the lowest level of crew. Notice how the lowest art director's assistant or 'HORSE wrangler' gets credited BEFORE the armorer does? But if something is just outrageous, NONE of us will work on it. A few years back a really atrocious script was being floated and none of the weapons rentals guys would work on it, me included. It was very refreshing to see that even guys in Atlanta, Florida and New York wouldn't touch it either. Can't say much about the horrible script but it was REALLY offensive to anyone who likes guns in America. And no one did it. The filmmakers were astonished that no one would help them. It was funny to see. Most of the ACTORS and Directors/Producers are ultra left gun haters anyway. So we avoid talking to them about ANYTHING other than the movie and what we have to do on set. It's better that way.

* M16A2 Answer: I will try to get to it. I have a bunch of real A3s and A4s that I can shoot as well, even though they really look alike from more than a few inches away ;) I am trying to get a good M4 carbine shot. All the ones that are available have custom crap on them ( like custom flash hiders/muzzle brakes) that very few people would recognize. I'm trying to get ICONIC aka classic look images of the gun. On that note, I want to replace that Ruger Mini-30 shot with a factory standard looking shot. I DO have a bunch of A2s that I will try to photograph.

What do you think of the 12 gauge pump shotgun page? Dumb idea? Input would be appreciated.

Also I think I need to put a separate WISH LIST page together, since I'm getting a lot of requests for photos of certain guns. I wonder if anyone from other gun sites are jealous of the gun pics that IMFDB has? hahahahaha. That's one thing that keeps me going! but don't tell anyone.... MPM2008

==Casino Royale==
Uh dude. you're right and that other guy is wrong. No way it's a Zastava M76. I think there is a foreign name for the WASR 3 gun (the one NOT imported into the US), but I don't know what it is. Robey can get all that stuff that good old' BATF won't allow into this country. :( Check out the flash hider, the front sight, the foregrip and the grenade launcher sight. What confuses a lot of people up is that Zastava also has a dragunov like SNIPER rifle also called the M76.
[[Image:Zastava-M76.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Zastava M76 Rifle - 5.56x45mm ]]

==XXX==
The MP9 is seldom seen in the movie and the non-screenshot pic is better than the shots in the movie. She fires it eyes closed and the muzzle flash and smoke make it hard to see (in pretty much the only scene she uses it). I pretty much took what I could get. -GM45

==Where Eagles Dare==
Nice job so far, you've gotten a lot done very quickly. It certainly looks more filled out then it did before. It wasn't even in proper format to the site. Keep up the good work, I'll look at it more when I finish [[Kelly's Heroes]]. -GM45

== Bad Boys II P226 ==

About the [[Bad Boys II]] page, should we use the Two Tone P226 with the black hammer for the P226 section? I'm asking this because I noticed the hammer was black on Martin Lawrence's P226, it's entirely up to you because I figured you might want it to look as much like the gun in the film as possible.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:54, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

== Need some help ==

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber

== Re:Beretta M92FS ==

I just started doing the honors (forgot to log in of course), And thanks for telling me if there were any differences between them. I'm going to watch Heroes for an hour now, but I'll get right back on replacing the images when I get back.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:02, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Should cartoons be allowed? ==

I want to know if it is either no one cares about the fact that cartoons like Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and recently South Park had been allowed to this site. I have don't think these pages should exist because do you think about the rare guns that appears on those shows and wonder what they are? Cause I sure don't. I'm too busy laughing my ass off to how funny these series are, not wondering if the shotgun Homer used in the Zombie episode was a Winchester Model 1887 or that it never appeared in any other episode following. I don't care and I dont think anyone else should care. We're getting cartoon fanboys that thinks just because Family Guy has an episode where Stewie has a closet full of look alike guns, means we should write a page about them. Those guns are not the point of the show and the artist that drew them obviously didn't take much consideration for them or mention. I think Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and South Park be removed at once. None of them deserve to be on this site. And whoever puts them here doesn't respect this site enough.

==New Pics==
:''I'm also curious...what would you think of a page dedicated to explaining the importance of your gun images to new users of the site, and featuring examples of your work? It would be linked from the main page.''
Don't know exactly what you mean. I know that some of the mods have had to restore some of my pics in the past when a new member replaced them with a stolen airsoft pics. As far as pointing out the movie guns, Don't know if it's important. Most of the new pictures of guns are indeed movie guns but since I can't confirm what they've been in (I suspect some of the really NICE and clean versions haven't been out at all, being that actors are idiots who break EVERYTHING they touch), I tend to just like having them here as a crisp clean photograph of the gun (and ones that only IMFDB has and no other website does). I tend to keep a low profile but only need to have the most active members (GM45, MT2008, ORCA, Alienqueen, Bunni, Excal, etc.) in the communication loop for the most part.

If you have a specific idea, let me know. :)

BTW: just came back from ANOTHER shoot. An actor who was just standing there in an open field waiting for his shot, DROPPED, my Colt M4 Carbine with RIS rails, L mount and Aimpoint sight on the ONE patch of concrete (left over from a demolished building from 1900) in an entire field of soft dirt. Literally it was 100 yards of soft dirt and grass and he manages to find the ONE patch of concrete in several acres and drops my gun on it. He cracked the knob of the L mount off the gun. This was a pristine gun and yet another actor finds a way to Fuck it all up. Figures. :(

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
==Re: Helping out with replacing pics==
Thanks for helping on replacing the new pics with the old ones. Since I have limited time, I spend it mostly grabbing the guns and photographing them. A lot of the guns need to be reconfigured (custom stuff removed, classic buttstocks or flash hiders put BACK on, etc.) Hopefully other members can help with the task of updating some of the older pages. I do it when I see something but since my time is limited I'd rather spend it getting the list of request images done, rather than spending it editing other pages. Thanks.

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Dawn of the Dead ==

Hey, I just uploaded some new [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights. Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:43, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Disregard, GM45 answered my questions.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:55, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

It's okay, I'm sure you would have did your best. And don't worry, I got your message on the [[Die Hard 2]] talk page, and I promise I'll have some new MP5 shots Friday, and I'm also going to upload some new screencaps for the original [[Die Hard]] eventually, and also replace those Youtube quality shots that are on the page now. And also, do you like the new Beretta Inox shots for the [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] page?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh yea, I saw your message on the [[Beretta M92F]] talk page, and I approve moving it to a different name since it dosen't really make sense to have it titled "Beretta M92F" when it includes 92Gs and 92SBs. Feel free to move the page whenever you're ready.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it'll messed up pages with the original links (atleast I hope not) because the M1911 Series page used to be called 1911 and the Beretta M92F page used to be referred to as Beretta 92 and the links didn't react badly to the renaming back then. I'd say go for it, and if anything goes wrong I'll help fix the links.

And yeah, titles linking to gun pages irks me for the same reasons. Some user who made an account when the site was getting started created that trend, I also hate it because when new users see pages like that, they sometimes get the wrong idea on editing and making pages.

And yes, I'll be more then happy get rid of any pages you don't want. Just send me a list of them, and they'll be gone.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

There you go, that should give us a little more server space. I really hate when people create duplicate pages of movies we already have on here, they can atleast check first before making a page. And that Terrorist and Top Ten Rifles pages were of no use to the site, I don't even understand why people create stupid pages like that. Well, anyway, thanks for letting me know about those pages, the site will be better off without them, if you come across anything else, just give me a call.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:05, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll delete them as I come across them. Also can you do me a favor? Redirect the [[Shoot to kill]] page to a properly punctuated title, I would do it, but I don't really know how to redirect pages. Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Also to answer an earlier question, to check what pages or images link to a particular page, go a page such as [[Beretta M92F]], and look in the toolbox, and click on "what links here".--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:51, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

No problem, let me know how it goes once you do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:57, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

== Tybalts Gun ==

I was wondering if you know where I can find a compensator like the one on tybalts taurus. Thanks
::Since this guy is anonymous, I can't message him so I hope you don't mind if I tell him on your discussion board MT. Some sites are www.Gunbroker.com, www.eBay.com, www.Gunsamerica.com. Search, search, and search some more. You'll find whatever you need on those. I got a compensator for my M1911 on ebay. -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]

I protected all MPM2008's pictures. And yea, that one user is really pissing me off, he dosen't listen and dosen't seem to know a good picture when he sees one. MPM2008 puts too much effort into his images for idiots to upload crappy pictures (Which they probably found on Google) over them like that. Anyway, thanks for reverting the USP image, I also hope to able to block users back soon because I could really use that.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

==Special page==
I'm too tired right now to formulate a good response, :) But I will get to that, re the new special page, but I tend to lean away from drawing undue attention to my efforts. :) MPM2008

==keeping me honest==
Remember if you see an obvious screw up in my updates, please correct it and let me know. I now triple check when someone brings something up. :) I may not have time to do another photo shoot until this weekend. :) MPM2008

== Problem fixed ==

I have good news, thanks to Bunni, we have the ability to block users back, and I also want to let you know that Hieloco is now gone, he'll never be able to upload images, or edit again. By the way, I recommended you and GM45 for positions as moderators.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:26, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

The position could still be useful to you in other ways as well. Even if you're unable to catch vandals right away, you can still use the priviledge to delete any pages you don't want or protect them. It's entirely up to you, if you're not interested, just let me know, and I'll tell Bunni.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:47, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Just made you an Admin ==

You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

==Beretta Inox flashpaper gun==
It's funny how you uploaded the ISS Beretta Inox, because I'm making the punisher page now and Travolta uses that gun. -GM
: I also have an ISS .45 uploaded on [[A Beautiful Mind]] if you need it. -GM
Whatever is easier for you is fine by me. I'll make sure to check it out when your done. - GM
: I knew that blanks expanded like that, I guess I just saw what looked like a live round. Whoops. -GM

==non guns==
Awesome work on the page. Don't know where you got the pics of the devices, but they're very well known around here. And I think they're particularly fugly. ISS is all hot shit on the fact that "They" have the only "NON" guns. Now you know that no one OWNS a Panavision camera. They are all OWNED by Panavision and owners/rental houses/etc. only '''lease''' them from Panavision. Just like most of the DOLLIES used in tracking shots, these items are never sold, only LEASED and can be 'recalled' to the parent company at any time. Well NON guns are only available from one place. Other armories cannot ever buy them. We can only subrent them. This new page may not be particularly pretty (the guns are pretty ugly) but it is an important educational element to understanding weapons in films. Usually they're used in places where you can't fire a real gun but need a flash (I filmed in a building right next to a children's hospital and no blanks were allowed), I know of friends who did shoot outs right outside the WHITE HOUSE, and the secret service would only approve of the non guns, and most of the time in NYC, who has such F$*(&ed up gun laws, that most actual gun fire sequences in major motion pictures are done OUTSIDE of the limits of NYC. Great work! IMFDB is getting to be THE definite "weapons in movies" info page!

==Pics==
Sorry, I've been really SICK for the last ten days and haven't had a time to set up and take pics of guns. When I sit down and rest, i've managed to upload just some files I already had prepared on my computer, but it was just being able to sit down and do stuff that made it possible. Yeah, I know, gun pics are all I'm good for ... ;) Also it's been crazy busy around here. I'm tempted to start making up an "Hello IMFDB" card and start taking pics of actors/actresses in motion pictures holding it and posting them here as a giggle. Usually also holding a movie gun as well. You guys tell me what to put on the card, and I'll start taking it with me to sets, and get famous actors to have their pic taken holding it. I was thinking the IMFDB logo. Again it only works if I can get people to take out a few minutes to do that. The last several productions have been insanely busy and last minute. Usually I get called to the set to bring a gun to an actor, literally SECONDS before the camera rolls. Of course I do a training and practice session if they're firing it, but when I'm handing off an obvious deactivated gun or non firing prop weapon, usually it's totally last minute.

== Re: Screenshots ==

Okay, I'll leave them alone. I also spotted some very good [[Ronin]] screenshots that MoviePropMaster uploaded, want me to leave those as well?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:06, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed some of the Grand Theft Auto 4 pictures that were on the site before the Great Crash, I'll leave them there for use in the future. do you want me to get rid of the old Hulk Screenshots?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Good Job, Now that most of them are gone, we should have a ton of room for new and better images. And I agree, seeing how Chaos was, there's no telling how many more extra gun images are out there, I'll be sure to keep an eye for anymore like that because happen to noticed you deleted like atleast three Beretta 92FS pictures. And yea, I really wish people wouldn't upload extra gun pictures, especially when we have the ones MPM2008 taken, there should be no need for them to upload their own images. I'll be sure to check the Revolver page as well.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Okay the ugly gun has a good looking cousin!==
you asked for this a long time back .... BTW, got the Type 84S as well ....
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:NorincoType84SRifle.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the PSG pic

==Question==
I have some SR9 sniper rifles. These were actually 'built' up from HK91 rifles back in the day (alot of the movie guns are 'built' rather than factory stock. I'm sure you know especially the history of the "MP5 versus the HK94 conversions" or the endless "Type 56 versus every AK variant on the planet".) As far as a 'historical reference of the real guns' "Hollywood guns" fall short. My "SR9" upper receivers don't have the forward assist of the actual SR9 guns, but everything else is correct. Is it wrong to post the pics? These guns HAVE been in films and TV shows in the past. The SR9 pictured was in "Nash Bridges" at least once. (edit) and you can see the same SR9 style gun used in SNIPER with Billy Zane, But real gun aficionados might wonder why the upper receiver looks more like a 91 versus an SR9. I will try to get a REAL SR9 rifle and post that pic, but I'm torn, being that we use built up SR9s in American movies and tv shows, though some other armorers have the 'real deal'. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:07, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Type 56 underfolder==
[[Image:Type56MuzzleBrake.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
I just saw GOLDENEYE again this weekend on the television and noticed that the 'cuban' soldiers at the end had Type 56 rifles under folder style with those fake AK74 muzzle brakes on them. So I popped a fake AK74 muzzle brake on one of my Type 56 underfolders and took a pic (for the Goldeneye page). Just a note, all of my own bolt carriers have been blued (after the fact). I should have kept some of them 'silver' for times like these. I will try to track down an unmodified bolt carrier and reshoot some of the guns so that they look stock. The Type 84 has a blued bolt carrier and the original factory model does not.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:39, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==SR9s and AKs==
The SR9 in the Replacement killers is a built gun. It has a different lower (see the S-F versus the 0-1) but it doesn't seem to have the forward assist that the SR9 should have (look at the PSG1 to see what the forward assist looks like). But 99.99% of the SR9 guns in movie inventories are built guns. I've only seen authentic guns in foreign movies with foreign armorers. I don't have the exact right Buttstock for my 'faux' SR9T. Is that too distracting? It's been used in films as an SR9T despite the fact that it's a SG/1 buttstock. Again, hollywood 'secrets' are being shattered on this site. But this is not a 'history of firearms' site, in as so much as it is a 'Firearms in the movies' site. And the reality of films is way different than that of guns in the real world, many times.

You're right about the Cuban soldiers. I watched it again on DVD and though in some angles (the forest near the satellite dish) the mags seem dark, it could just be the angle. I will change the AK Underfolder shot... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:14, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

==SR9==
:''I figured since the SR9 used to be a readily available civilian "assault rifle", armorers would use it. ''

Available yes, readily available no. Since only 125 TCs were imported into the entire USA and only 100 T models, most of these were snapped up by either law enforcement or collectors. Clinton put a stop to their import since they could accept 'high capacity' magazines. I tried for years ever since they started coming out to get a real one but couldn't just because they were hard to get (at least on the West coast). It also depended on which distributor one was cozy with. Since the rifles themselves were all built on HK91 receivers anyway, it was easier to get the parts and convert existing HK91s. Since THESE guns have impersonated real TC guns I figured why the hell not? The screencap of Billy Zane in Sniper is one of these very guns. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:43, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on [[Four Brothers]]. I think there's also a "Non Gun" Glock in the Glock 17 section if you want to look at that.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

==worries==
:''Hope it doesn't bother you that we're unmasking all of the various tricks that you armorers have been using over the years to convince moviegoers they're seeing one gun when it's actually another!''

I was just worried about places like the HK forums with all of those HK enthusiasts. What concerns me is that some people in the firearms community, who are purists, won't understand that IMFDB is not a 'gun history' site per se, but a "history of guns in the movies" site. I actually got worried that HK aficionados would be offended that I had posted images of 'built' movie guns that closely approximate a specific gun, like the movie built SR9T guns rather than getting a bonafide SR9T... when I actually stop to think of it. I will really try to get the real deal in a photo (borrow them from collectors if I have to), but in reality, (just like having Type 56 rifles or Maadis impersonate the REAL AKs in films), movie guys impersonate a few guns, just because it was easier to do so at the time. Like the Fake XM8s in xXx:State of the Union, it all seems so 'fake' when it's revealed to the public, kinda like a magician's tricks. As far as bothering me, no, it is information and cinema history that needs to be collected and shared. I just feel a little weird presenting to gun people ''"Here is a fake Machine gun '_ _ _ _' that we had to build from plastic and metal parts because we didn't have access to the real one (like the DShKs)"'' If you get my meaning. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

==New pics==
Well I finally got the M16A2 done, I'll get the A3 and A4 as well as a Diemaco done soon. Finally I got to replace my old HK91 pic! :) woohoo! there was a shadow on the upper handguard that bugs me. Does it bug you? The lights were too close and didn't cover the entire rifle. It's not a stock HK magazine, though, it's one of those Taiwanese Blued 30 round magazines that were imported in the 1990s. I'm pretty happy though, I think this is one of the best pics of the HK91 on the web right now. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:HK Model 91.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

==Luger P08==
(posted this to Alienqueen as well) :) . I finally posted a pic of one of the Lugers we have in inventory. Apparently this is one of the Luger P08s used on the Television show "Hogan's Heroes" in the 1960s. It sure is beat up. Though that info is third hand is the only reason I don't post it because I don't have the info directly from the source. The Barrel was replaced about 20 years ago for some reason, which is why the finish doesn't match. It's a bit of TV history, thought you'd get a kick out of it. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:08, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:LugerP08Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Congrats==
Congratulations on the upcoming P226! I wish it was as easy to buy a handgun in NY as it is in Texas. NY sucks with gun laws (gun control laws are bullshit). If my dad wasn't a liscense FFL dealer, I'd have pretty much no chance of enjoying the guns I enjoy now.
: I got [[Last Man Standing]] finished and I'm going to do [[Shawshank Redemption]] and [[Hotel Rwanda]] soon. Then I'm going to try to fully do [[The Dirty Dozen]] and then I've only got 10 more movies on my list to do. (including the The whole yards movies, some war movies, and Blazing Saddles.) I'll try to get them all done by the end of the month.
P.S. Not to get political, but I hope Biden keeps his Assault Weapons Ban to himself, because not many know he wrote Clinton's ban. If he focuses on gun control during Obama's term, we are majorly fucked (excuse the language). -GM
::My father is the same way with assault rifles. He says he doesn't like guns designed to kill. Splitting hairs there. Biden's ban is ridiculous though, he believes any semi-auto gun is considered an assault weapon, including the Browning A5 and the Ruger 10/22! It is foolish and I can't say anything threatening about him because he is VP, but I STRONGLY DISLIKE HIM. [insert uber-insulting text]. I don't understand how people like him make it into office. Dammit, I started a political discussion. -GM

==Taurus 85==
:''There's only one that troubles - I think the newer Taurus 85 image is a bit fuzzier compared to the old one. ''
WTF? try refreshing and looking at the file again. That might fix it. The new pic is way clearer than the old one. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==G3 page==
Ugh. Looks like Kin93 added some pics, but I'm not sure if we need to list ones that don't appear in any movie or flick. What are your thoughts? Also the formatting of the G3 page is going all to hell. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==emasculated guns and a discovery==
Well, none of the armorers that I know have those castrated thumbhole HK "Sporting purpose" guns with the neutered forearm (designed to not resemble a "military forearm" woooooo Scary.....). I mean, we don't have pics of all the THUMBHOLE monstrosity AKs (the MAK-90s, the NHMs, etc. etc.) that were imported in the 1990s. Because they weren't used for the most part (I do know of some B movies which had them, but until we list those films, I don't think we should have the pics). It's a bit like all those weird Cutaway shots of guns that have NEVER been in a movie. What's the point? It just clutters the pages and site and doesn't educate anyone about guns in films.

BTW: I found one of those long barreled mystery AK folders I was mystified by in "stealth". Well I don't have it now, but I will try to photograph one when I visit one of my Canadian armorer friends in January. It's the Norinco Type 84 Target Match rifle (with either full stock or folding stock). Very FEW got into the U.S., but they were heavily imported into Canada (that is until the Montreal Massacre of 1989 when that psycho Marc Lépine murdered 14 female students with a Mini-14, however, it took the Canadian government until 1995 to ban Semiautomatic long guns in Canada). So the Canadians had five more years of importing ugly guns than we did. Anyway, my gun control vent is off now ;) I will get a shot of the long barreled Norinco Type 84. :) woo hoo. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

:''And yes, we definitely have some of the best gun pics on the 'Net thanks to you. I must admit I'm still smitten with the fact that Norinco Type 84 pics are basically non-existent in just about any gun image site around (even World Guns, which is usually pretty reliable)...except here. ''
Actually World Guns has pretty crappy photography and I'm pretty sure they jack their shots from other sources as well. That's the reason why I work so hard on the photos. The Net has crap pics of guns. Most of the guys don't know how to take a decent picture (some of the guys take some nice outdoor pics though). I've always liked those Japanese gun magazines with the outrageously sexy product photos of firearms. Those Japanese photographers always knew how to take awesome pics of guns. Anyway I will continue to try to photograph as much as I can. It's still a long while before I 'run out' of guns to take pictures of. I just need to (a) clean some of them up (b)repair some of them or (c) assemble them. As I mentioned before, I have ALL the parts to make all of the correct XM177 models (original USGI parts) but they're all in bins, mismatched. That's one of the things I've always wanted to do, being that so many people screw up and name 'everything' a Colt Commando, when the Commando was a specific type of firearm. Today is a busy day so not much more stuff from me for a little bit. regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I've seen that feature and took some screengrabs from it. I'm going to put those up after I'm done with the movie shots. Thanks for the remainder too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

== Want me to stop? ==

Cause I just got Pineapple Express, Wanted, Mummy 3. All these movies. I mean, I got the Incridible Hulk before it came out on DVD, I got Iron Man before it came out. Do you want me to leave disclaimers? Want me to stop?

::Fine, I'll stop. And I was actually excited in rewatching Mummy 3 again just to see the guns
:::Right, but still, I mean if we get screencaps from the DVDs and posted it here, aren't we still taking copyrighted images and posting them? How is doing that and taking something from a bootlegged copy any different?
::::I didn't say I did, and I didn't write down here if I even took these off of a bootleg movie that I might or might not have downloaded. I could have found a website that I don't remember. I'll stop posting images from something that isn't offical, IE like a DVD but I am going to write it here that just because the evidence points that these might or might not have been from bootlegged material, doesn't mean I did the bootlegging. I don't want to be accused officially and my words written on this site turned against me. I will not admit or deny anything. But I will stop posting photos that can be questioned.
:::::''My thoughts. Excaliber01, I would not post anything that has not been officially '''released'''. I myself posted pics from the '''Body of Lies''' high definition trailer on the web, as well as the Ironman movie , but that was an officially released trailer and was not a bootleg. I've dealt with MPAA and posting images from screen caps, as long as you're writing something 'newsworthy' or 'educational' about the film, doesn't seem to ruffle many feathers. It dances on the line of being 'journalism' if you're writing about the film, not promoting or doing any fan stuff about it, or using it for any self promotion or commercial purposes. After all, how can anyone '''prove''' that a particular gun appear in a scene, unless there is a screengrab to prove it? However, anything that can be construed as a '''bootleg''' should be avoided. This changes the entire attitude of folks, especially people in the industry and it may direct unwanted attention to IMFDB if we started regularly having proof that a member is posting images from a '''bootleg''' dvd. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:09, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

==The page==
Wow. Don't know what to say. I've been gone doing the "gun Thing" the last several days, so I've been offline. thanks! However, I do stay anonymous for a reason. (a) the film industry (and Hollywood in particular) is full of ultra liberal, anti gun persons ... petty and vindictive persons. They think everyone is one of them ... thinks like them ... and those who do not can suffer their wrath, whether it be through pressure or innuendo. There are tons of folks who are blackballed (not officially) but when any powerful individual doesn't like them ... that person 'magically' can't find work... It's probably one of the most dysfunctional industries in existence, save for the "XXX" adult biz. (b) I never draw attention to myself, only presenting my 'cred' when I'm discussing topics or details with other enthusiasts who seem 'serious enough' about the site. I want freedom to post freely without fear of the repercussions of bad mouthing individuals in the biz. Also it's not about me, but what I can contribute to the site. Alot of the armorers stay pretty low key. I'm actually one of the more opinionated ones. We all talk amongst ourselves, but I've noticed that most of the industry biggies (the most famous working armorers) stay very MUM on the topics of politics or gun control. Weird that people would not put 2 and 2 together, i.e. We work with guns ... but we don't support ultra liberal Democrats who want to BAN guns. It's all part of the ignorance of weapons in movies. I don't know HOW many times I've heard "Oh, you don't use REAL guns do you?", or "Oh, the gun bans won't affect YOU!". Which as you know is total bullshit on both counts. Frankly, the powers that be don't give a crap. Most of the industry 'lower echelon people' keep quiet. I have to bite my tongue when I work, but I don't want to have to bite my tongue when I post ;) (c) Some people are 'asshole magnets'. I know a lot of women who have attracted internet stalkers. I, unfortunately have general idiots doing the whole internet harassment thing already (people posting a person's real name, address, phone#, doing weird things like saying they work as a janitor or dropped out of High school (yes both those falsehoods have been posted). It's always disturbing to Google one's own name only to see some asshat smearing you on his blog. The bigger IMFDB grows, and I hope that it grows HUGE, the more google hits will link to the site. I just stay anonymous because I don't want yet another place where morons can figure out who I am (Believe me, YOU guys (the most trusted posters on the site) will probably get that info BEFORE the public, which is fine by me). Also anyone who knows all the armorers and looks at what I say, can easily figure my identity, which again is okay, but I'm already fighting with a particular idiot who is intent on sliming me and my rep on the net, and I dont' want to drag IMFDB into it. Anyway, that's a more long winded explanation. I really appreciate the thought behind the MoviePropMaster Page, but frankly I don't need the credit. You guys give me all the credit I need with your comments on the pics and pages! :) I don't think that the site benefits all that much from the page right now. Just because at this time I'm staying very low key. :) Hope this is understandable. Thanks again. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:49, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

==Model 29==
Well Charon had a pretty good pic on the Dirty Harry pages. The only thing is that I assumed that these were jacked photos. Question: We discussed this before, but it's okay to remove nice pics but ones that are 'jacked from Google' with new original photos as long as the gun is the same make model and configuration? Right? I don't want contributors getting pissed at me for replacing their posted images, even though they themselves just uploaded it from Google. From your conversations with Alienqueen, I assume that the mods agree, replacing all the "net" photos with original IMFDB pics is the standard action, and contributors will have to realize that they didn't 'own' the copyright to the net pics to begin with.

==Wiki==
So what do you think of that offer? He wrote a very gracious message and was professional enough to make a formal request. I'm on the fence. I take my pics with the intent of having them only on IMFDB. I do have some friends (fellow armorers OR collectors) who have volunteered the pristine examples for photography (since a lot of the movie guns are beat up), that I've allowed to use for their own uses. Ironwood Designs, for example, did the replacement wood on one of the yugoslavian RPKs (that I haven't uploaded yet), and they asked to use that pic for their website, and I gave them permission, since they fixed the broken wood with an exact replica of the original Yugoslavian wood. There are a few people with websites I've given some specific image permission to , but all of these people have helped in the production of the photos in one way or another. So they're different.

Please give me your thoughts. I am not so keen on others using the pics I shot for IMFDB, at least until I can create a watermarked version of the image, ("courtesy of IMFDB", that sort of thing) so people know that the pic was one of the ones from here. I've been watching the web and are actively looking for websites that might pirate these pics. I don't take kindly to people who jack MY pics, so I am ready to email offenders with 'cease and desist' orders ;) Let me know what you think regarding the polite request by the English wiki guy to use my gun images. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

==IMFDB hypocritical? Nah==
I would not clamp down as an IMFDB mod, but as the original photographer. I own the copyright of my own photos and have every right to demand that others not pirate my work. I granted IMFDB the rights (in writing on my user page BTW) to use my photos, I know that anyone who jacks the images will hear from me, the copyright holder. As far as jacking images, (a) I only uploaded some images when there was no image and we needed a place holder. I've been replacing these with images I've shot myself, there are almost none left. If the original copyright holder contacts me (or the site) ... that image will be removed immediately (I assume you all agree with me). I would immediately remove any other person's pics if asked. I just worry that others will not comply if I ask for a removal of my own stuff. I can't control the actions of the other IMFDB contributors, but I shot these images '''FOR''' IMFDB, so I am quite protective of my intellectual and artistic property.

Also, as indicated by the kind and professional email from that English Wiki guy, I see that others have noticed the image quality of IMFDB gun pics :) I'm just working towards the day when persons start looking here for images of guns, rather than those other gun sites! hahaha. (despite the fact that they have much more technical and historical data on the actual guns). Also this is the only place I can post images of the 'faux' or 'conversion' guns that we use in the biz. No real firearms page would be interested in a fake SR9 or a fake MP5 (made from an HK94) or Star handguns standing in for 1911s, etc. etc. Anyway, I say 'bring em on' if anyone complains. I'm working my tail off to replace all the pics with images that have been granted usage rights to IMFDB (by me). :) Can't wait until we have all the jacked gun pics replaced on the site. ;) Let me know what you think. best regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:19, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

==The Crow==
The gun is a chopped Muzzelite bullpup stock that was custom modified to take a shotgun. Mossberg had a Bullpup stock gun (and kit available in the 1980s) but upon closer examination the gun that Ernie Hudson is holding is a Muzzelite for sure.

Also your comments on the accident that killed brandon lee are inaccurate. Believe me, I've been correcting people for YEARS. the gun that shot Brandon Lee was a snub nose Charter Arms .44 bulldog, not the Model 29 seen in the movie. The reason why no one saw it in the movie is because it is from a deleted scene where Funboy ([[Michael Massee]]) shoots Draven in front of an all night convenience store. the footage from that entire scene was later destroyed after the investigation. the scene with the .44 bulldog will NEVER be seen by the general public.

Also the gun armorer had nothing to do with the accident. The armorer was wrapped (i.e. sent home) at midnight that night and the gun was locked up in the props trailer (which is a semi truck trailer on most major motion picture gigs that are being shot on location). However, the director (or 2nd unit director) decided to try to film the scene where Massee shoots lee at 4:30 am, well after the weapons master had been 'wrapped' for the day. As is common when dealing with idiot NON gun ownng people, someone loaded the dummy rounds in first (and then dry fired it). The dummy rounds were live (full metal jacket) rounds purchased from a local gun store, and then the rounds were removed with a bullet hammer and all the powder inside was dumped out (the bullet reseated with a reloading press), but the primers remained live, since the director wanted shots of the undented primers. Well, as you know, when you dry fire a revolver with a dummy round (with live primer) the primer explosion is enough to drive the bullet about an inch into the barrel. Someone handed the gun back to the prop handler (who was NOT the gun handler) and said something to the effect of 'this gun is broken'. When another untrained prop handler unloaded the revolver, she did not notice that one of the "dummy rounds" was missing it's bullet head. Again, chain of custody of the handgun was broken yet another time, and no one on the set was trained enough to CHECK the barrel for obstructions, like they should have. They decided to film the scene WITHOUT the gun wrangler (which was fucking stupid since obviously none of these retards knew anything about guns, but this mentality is COMMON in the industry. Non gun owners are the biggest fuckups with guns... as you've heard me bitch about time and time again.

Anyway, come time to film (about 4:00 AM, four hours when they sent the gun handler home because they told him the were DONE filming any firearms scenes) they loaded a full powered .44 bulldog blank in the gun (with that bullet lodged into the barrel) and it obviously had enough force to expel out the round. What is tragic is that Michael massee wasn't aiming directly at Lee, however, the deformation of the round, plus the fact that it was already 'crooked' in the barrel created a non stable bullet flight. It 'arched' on a weird spin pattern and literally curved it's trajectory into Lee. The bullet entered his lower intestines, and because it was spinning in a weird way, tore all the way up his spinal cord (shattering the spinal cord into splinters) all the way up to the base of his neck. Even if he was taken to an E.R. within seconds, the damage was so severe that he would have died regardless of who or what medical facilities were treating him. What is chilling is that the footage shows the scene continuing as if nothing is wrong and the director calling cut, with set assistants walking up and checking on Lee to see why he is being 'so slow to get up'. It was pretty gruesome.

I wonder what it would have been like to be the gun wrangler getting to set the next day, only to discover that the other props people (who knew nothing about guns) had managed to kill the star with their stupidity. BTW, I knew an actor who was roommates with Michael Massee (Funboy). Massee was so traumatized by the incident that he took a year hiatus and hiked across the Canadian wilderness to 'clear his head'. The entire incident was tragic, but unfortunately, a lot of urban myths are posted on the internet about it. The longer time passes, the more inaccurate accounts I read on the net about the incident. Hope this helps. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:43, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

==Check it out==
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-104 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==FG 42==
damn, that new model looks pristine! Almost weird looking to see one like that. Mine is all beat up (and over 60 years old!) Should I replace my weird looking pic with one of those new ones?(that is if someone I know gets one, I myself aren't interested in the new replica live fire model, but I know other guys who will spend whatever it costs to get one) ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

== John Woo qoute ==

I don't think this line is in the "qoutes" section of the main page, but I like it to be placed in. "Easy to pick up, hard to put down". Obviously refering to guns and ammo. It's a line from the John Woo movie "The Killer" said by Joe, Chow Yun Fat's character

I don't know how to put this qoute into the qoute section of the main page, but do you?

==MAC pics==
I'm more proud of the MAC-11 (380). Now that page has ALL MPM2008 pics! woo hoo! These are the best pics of these guns on the net so far. Did you see the SIG 550? Again, I think it's the best image of that gun on the entire web as well. I had to build up the MAC-11 since the example was in pieces due to an internal part breaking and no one bothered to reassemble it with replacement parts. I'm on the fence about giving the M-11 it's own page. It is technically derived from the original MAC-11 blueprints, but it was elongated so that the bolt carrier could traverse a longer distance in order to properly cycle the more powerful 9x19mm round. And people always mix it up with the other two guns, so I think that putting them together will help "gun ignorant" people understand that these are all distinct guns and not to mix them up. Oh and BTW, the Cobray M11 9mm magazines don't fit in the Ingram MAC-10/9 9mm guns and vice versa. Completely different designs. Just a trivia note.

I have to take a short break to actually do paid "work" (what's that?) and get back to IMFDB later. I am trying to get Thompson pics, but all our Thompsons are in weird configurations. I've already shot an M1928 that was in the Class III vault, and it' rear sight is an M1A1 (WTF?)

Did you see the custom AMD-65 I made for the Rambo page? I think i'll continue building up the configurations as seen in the movies. Heck I got the parts in shop anyway and some of the guns may have been in the film. But usually the ones I fix up are too nice to have been in some of those movies (they were dropped ALOT). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

==The Dark side of movie guns==
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:33, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:BeatType56.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Heck at least it fireable....]]

:I don't think I've ever seen any AK variant beat up that badly, even ones confiscated in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you know those guns get the tar beat out of them... [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 09:13, 23 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

::That's nothing. try having a moron ACTOR touch your AK for a few days. These (liberal anti gun moron actors) manage to destroy weapons all the time. And they claim they don't "like" guns, and yet they mess around with them, drop them, etc. It's gotten so bad that I have a pow wow with the director & producers a lot BEFORE filming starts and tell them, they had better let me stop "unsafe behavior" (meaning I can yell at and confiscate weapons from the "Stars" on sight). Dropping a gun on concrete is not only rude and damages the gun, it can create cracks or breaks or other unseen damage that can create a catastrophic malfunction. Not that likely given the quality of most battlefield or high end guns, but it's the reasoning I use to whip the director & producer into line. The biggest 'threat' i've ever made on set, when no one backed me up when I was trying to stop reckless gun behavior, was to threaten to (a) immediately quit, (b) pack up all the guns & blanks, (c) leave .... and notify their Insurance agency that the armorer left the set due to unsafe weapons and pyrotechnical practices. Boom! That will either get their policy canceled immediately (it's against union rules to work on a set with out com/liability insurance) or get insurance investigators to visit the set immediately. That bluff has never been called! hahahaha. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

==Uncommon valor==
:''It's odd because I had no clue that the Type 56 was imported to the U.S. back when Uncommon Valor was filmed (82-83). I remember hearing it wasn't until 1984 that they reached these shores. ''
well didn't you wonder where all those Chinese AKs came from during the scenes filmed in Hawaii? LOL! Most of the battle scenes were filmed on the Island of Kauai. Many of the locations were the same Hawaiian locations as Jurassic Park. And I noticed how 'well fed' (i.e. hefty) the local extras were when they were playing Laotian People's Army regulars. Alot of the extras were Chinese and Japanese American residents of Hawaii. This particular gun was an amnestied pre 1968 bring back full auto original Type 56, that was registered per the rules of NFA 34 and GCA 68. There were a LOT of bring backs during the war, and many registered full autos found their way into the chains of commerce between full auto weapons owners. MPM

== ''The Kill Point'' ==

Thanks a lot for screencapping ''[[The Kill Point]]''. I originally made the page when the series first aired on Spike TV last year, but haven't found anywhere that sells in on DVD or any place on the net with good-quality video. I really appreciate your help with this article, and look forward to seeing it completed. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 09:12, 23 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==GoldenEye discussion==
I moved the golden eye AK discussion to that page's discussion page, you know, the guys get all weirded out by the 'non-encylopedic tone' of discussions on the movie pages. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== ''Jericho'' ==

It may take me a while to do the caps for this thing as they are buried somewhere in the massive pile of burned discs I have (yes, I know, naughty naughty) but there are a few suggestions I can offer you:

(1) M-14/M1A - seen when Hawkins shows Jake his hidden stockpile of weapons prior to New Bern's attack

(2) MAC-10 - used by some of Jonah Prowse's henchmen during the attack on the New Bern mortar sights

(3) AK-47 - used several times in the series by, among others, the Sherrif's deputies in New Bern and Jonah Prowse.

(4) Heckler&Koch UMP - seen in the hands of a U.S. Marine (based on the cammo pattern) at Camp Liberty

(5) Barret M82A1 - seen mounted on the cab of a deuce and a half at Camp Liberty

(6) M60 - used by a citizen of New Bern during the initial firefight with Jericho

(7) Glock 18 - used by Ravenwood mercs, especially Goetz, to kill Sarah - easily identified by the extended magazine

Yeah...forgot to log in here so I had to log back in in order to "claim credit"!!! Sorry dude.

Check the changes/additions I have made and edit them at your will dude!!! Semper Fidelis!!!

You're very welcome. As far as the Glocks go I thought they might be small too but I am sure I heard burst fire from them in the particular episode.
[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 19:17, 26 November 2008

That about wraps up my contributions for this one. If you have any further questions just drop me a note. Via Con Dios.

==Happy Thanksgiving==
Hope you're eating well :) regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:26, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==U.S. Marshals snaps==
I have U.S. Marshals on DVD, would you like me to replace your AVI shots with my DVD shot sometime? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 07:04, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==You're very welcome==
Yes, the lack of a good USAS 12 shotgun really bugged me. Also the inaccurate history of the gun (as seen on many internet sites) also bugged me. I was there and in the middle of all that political BS in the early 1990s and I remember everything, since it affected me directly. As for the new photos ... That's why I do it! hahahahah. I think IMFDB has the best USAS-12 photo on the net right now ;) I hope you also liked the new Makarov pic (I hated the old one), and the new Glock 17L. Also I 'think' we have the only good shots of the HK 512 autoshotgun on the net as well. Hope you had a great thanksgiving. I'm still working on the pics, but I've taken well over 200 custom gun photographs so far. And it looks like I have a long way to go.

Have you seen the pics of guns at Securityarms.org? Ugh! Poor guys. They have the biggest library of gun pics on the planet so far, but their quality is so bad (and lots of their guns are in really WEIRD configurations).

I screwed up on the XM177-E2 pic (I'm so mad at myself). I put the A1 style upper on an SP1 lower which is wrong. I had the SP1 lower all ready for the original XM17 pic and in a state of confusion, I assembled the E2 upper to the wrong lower. Also I have an original XM177 barreled upper ... and I can't FIND IT! Argh! It's somewhere in the piles and piles and piles of guns and gun parts. I just can't remember where I put it.

Also I'm having a hard time photographing Chrome nickel guns. I tried to photograph a nickel plated Colt Highwaypatrolman and a Colt Single Action Army (with ivory grips), but these guns are nearly 'mirror' finish and the pics look like crap. It's hard to light something that is so shiny and reflective. I'm going to get a special product soft box (the kind they use to photograph silver, platinum and gold jewelry) so that I don't see my own reflection in the item.

I'm trying to get some of the items which I don't have, but it's tough. Thanks for the compliments on Ultraviolet. There's just so much work to do on the site.

Question, how do you guys see how many views an image or page has? Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:25, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail==
Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. '''It's a bottle with gasoline in it.''' It's not '''manufactured or crafted''', like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.

Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.

Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.

Since the page was made and effort was put into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== [[Full Metal Panic]] ==

What do you think of what I've done recently with this page?

==Do these help?==
I was tempted to overwrite the existing pics with these. Let me know if you think I should. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:38, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:M1921Thompson.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1921 Thompson]]
[[Image:M1928.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1928 "OverStamped" Auto Ordnance Thompson (this one is a real beat up one)]]
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Military contract Thompson with Stick magazine and simplified Rear sight]]
[[Image:M1928A1Drum.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 with a Drum magazine]]
(edit: Just added this M1928A1 with a drum. I will probably over write the existing gun pics)

==WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?==
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.

The page on IMDFB.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi

Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode)
http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf

Your thoughts are appreciated.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

::EDIT: I think we should adopt the same rule as IMDB. Or actually, if the title is nowhere to be found on IMDB, that means it is not a recognized title that has been released to the general public, thus it will NOT appear on IMFDB. Members can appeal these decision by posting an IMDB link. I think that's the only was to keep these 'amateur films' (no matter how cool or talented they are), from taking over the Site. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

==The much needed FAQ or RULES for the site==
Hope we get that FAQ (actually it should be RULES for the site) done quick. I've noticed young foreign members who are posting bootleg images (the danger is from foreign members in Asia and Eastern Europe). I work in the movie biz and that's a SUREFIRE way to get the studio lawyers laser beam aimed right at US. We should prohibit screencaps from films which have NOT been released yet, immediately. The '''exception''' are those images which are taken from publicly disseminated marketing images (like production stills, or marketing images that have already been released to the public) or Screengrabs from already released trailers (like I did for Body of Lies, Defiance, and Valkyrie). These images are from public released materials, like high def trailers, and thus are not taken from a bootleg copy of the movie. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

: Kin93 is a young user from Hong Kong. 93 refers to 1993, the year he was born, which makes him 15. He may not realize that it's just not Kosher to put images from DVDs which 'may' be available in the notorious bootleg market of CHINA, but is not acceptable and illegal here in the U.S. I am going to give him a chance to respond. It may be some other film that he has mis-titled. But if we can determine definitely that these are screengrabs from the 2009 release film Tunnel Rats, then they should be deleted, with apologies sent to the OP, with a gentle warning that we don't tolerate Bootleg images. I will give him some time to let me know what it is what I think it is. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:10, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Re: 15 yr olds. I don't want to sound like I am bashing 15 yr olds. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] is an exception. For one, he is far more mature, literate, informed and world wise than 99.99% of 15 yr olds in general. But he is the rare exception. A lot of 'kids' mean well, but need to have it explained to them what is or is not appropriate. Actually MOST of the young adults who post on THIS site are literate, reasoned and mature, far more than their peers who post on other sites. Perhaps it says something about the TYPE of person who has interest in these sort of things. Anyway, I will still watch the new members carefully..... (BTW: It just hit me, I'm as OLD as most of the Admins' DADS .... but I'm probably more fun :) hahahaha). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:28, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

::I do agree with the fact we should prohibit and make sure people understand that we have to understand the fact that we can't post images of movies unreleased on DVD no matter how high quality they might be as some I've found. And Gunmaster, you're 15, so I don't think you would bash your own age group. I don't remember what it was like being that age. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer.

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== I hesitated ==

I hesistated as well when I looked at my Pineapple express page because I actually did real work to screencap it, even though it was from a pretty good quality bootleg, but that doesn't excuse the fact I used bootlegged images. It cheapens the quality of this site if we do that. That's why when I get images for TV series, I try to get the highest quality as possible. I didn't hesitated in deleting the images from Tunnel Rat even if it isn't my work and someone else's, but when I did that, I deleted the images from Pineapple Express. It needs to be done. Which is why someone needs to tell this guy who's so much of a fan of flash animation to stop putting stuff like that on this site. It doesn't deserve to be here. Anime deserves to be here, the kind of anime where you can see who detail they did on their guns, not this cheapo internet flash thing you can find anywhere from Newgrounds. Flash animation crosses a line and insults this site. It must not be allowed to be here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== DVD rips ==

Even dvd rips have their limits. You can really tell from the offical stuff and something someone ripped off a DVD. It's better to just rent it from official sources. And do you think we overdid it with Don and used him as an example like that. I mean, this is a free form wiki like site. Odds are there will be others who won't read rules and ignore and we have to start this all over again.

[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:43, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== We got another one ==

I just found another one. It's called Madness. Yeah how approperate. Putting flash animation here is madness. Cause this is IMFDB.

[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Hard work ==

And a very nice work, your Hard Target is. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:26, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

:Good guess. We wear the woodland and desert DPM half and half. You think wearing desert in the middle of winter isn't smart, but that color blends really good in the snow and tree. The guy who founded the team's British. Born in Singapore, raised in England and former paratrooper. I think after college here, he's going back for another tour. The guy's kinda hardcore about what guns we arm ourselves with. We don't go for anything that the British or SAS hasn't used. It keeps our weapon uniformed and easy to change out parts and magazines. Also the reason other than ego I think for the British camo is because everyone in the US obviously goes for the typical kinds of camo and we've yet to encounter a team that has a similiar kit like us. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

:Yes that is the reason how I came across Ultimate Force. It is an awesome show, but had a run of bad luck when it comes to casting and renewals. It reminded me of the show The Unit, which for all intents and purposes is the US equivalent to Ultimate Force, but the difference is that it had more episodes, but why I don't like about The Unit which was half the show is all about the wives and family drama. Ultimate Force showed almost none of that and more action. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

==You psychic? hahaha==
I put up a pic and you comment on it within 90 seconds... hahaha First the Type 84 and now this. Is there an alarm on your computer whenever I post a gun pic? :) Thanks for the compliments. I wish I had a better pic of the Valmet. I was counting on getting shots of Syd Stembridge's guns, but he sold all of his Valmets to Long Mountain Outfitters. I don't think I know of anyone who has the most important variant, the M78/83 (the version with the black synthetic thumbhole stock). I have a broken M78 (and I mean ready for the scrap pile) with a fake thumbhole stock that was carved out of plywood!!!!! Ugh! Boy it looks bad. But I had the semi auto only M78 gun as a stunt weapon since the receiver was previously crushed slightly inward by the previous owner and it's not worth it to repair the fractures in the sides.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==Stripes page==
So I finally did a Stripes page. Just got sick of having no page for that movie. :) .[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==Water marks==
I am seriously considering some sort of copyright listing (or at least some clear wording at the comments section) of each custom gun pic I photograph. I suppose I should be wary of pirates just lifting the custom content clear out of the blue. After, a lot of IMFDB's gun pics are someone else's content. My goal is to replace all of IMFDB's gun pics with original images that clearly belong to IMFDB so there is no copyright issue with anyone else..[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==There you go again===
hahahaha. I post a pic, and less than 90 seconds later, I get a comment from you! You have Jedi mind powers?!? :) hahahaha. How do you know when I've posted a pic? :) re: the gun, I had it in one of my PICS folders that I haven't looked at since August. That folder has pics I scored from armorer buddies and I remember someone mentioning that the rack I was poking around had the guns from Air Force One. Since I wasn't near any AKs or pistols, I just remember thinking, oh, "these must be the MP5s from the flick". But then a lot of people I know make off the cuff remarks and then don't remember making them at all later, so who knows? Again that was six months ago, and I had since forgotten about the whole affair until I ran across this image. I could ask again, but Remember, I sometimes annoy my peers when I bug them about photographing specific movie guns. So I must tread lightly. ;) I 'believe' they are from AFO but I wouldn't swear an oath on it. :) Hope that doesn't ruin the image for you. ;) hahahaha.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:51, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008 images]]==
I found [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 9mm [[Heckler & Koch UMP|UMP]] image on [[http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg16-e.htm]] but if I have permission to upload my image on the [[Heckler & Koch UMP|UMP]] page I think it would make the [[Heckler & Koch UMP|UMP]] page much better. I just uploaded a USC image on the [[Heckler & Koch UMP|UMP]] page and it already looks good.

==I guess it was inevitable==
Getting more and more requests for pics or .... discovering that people are just jacking the images in general. I found a local gun store who jacked some of my images for their inventory page. They had the gall to actually put their own copyright on the image. Anyway I was dealing with that, but I guess it's inevitable. I've electronically tagged the images now with copyright info. Regardless of what they do to the pic, certain software can positively ID it as mine. Professional photographers and professional artists are starting to really police the net when it comes to people stealing their stuff. Some kid posting the pic on his "guns I like " page is innocuous. Some business owner posting the images in his catalogue and then marking them as his copyright is actionable. What makes it a little harder is that IMFDB has jacked it's own images from others. I see new members lifting pics (and sometimes text) whole from other sites, which is irritating since some of them still jack images for guns we already have LEGAL pics of. Just so you know, :) I will try to keep doing what I am doing until the entire site has exclusive content and we won't have to 'jack' anyone else's images. I know that's impossible, but I will try to get as close as I can.

I also have had some other folks polite enough to request usage rights (which is good nettiquette and shows that at least they are honest), but I'm still not willing at this point to give anyone permission outside of IMFDB. Hope you understand my thinking and if you have any advice please let me know.

As far as the Wiki guy. I posted the flip side of the gun he wanted. What do you think? I wanted some input before I let him have this one. Is the courtesy notice too much?
[[Image:CetmeAmeliIMFDBVer2.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Cetme Ameli - Courtesy of IMFDB.org - 5.56mm]]

:Excellent photograph. The watermark, though not favoured on Wikipedia, is fine. It is your property after all. My only qualm would be the label on the right side. The image will be placed in an infobox with a caption, making it redundant. Cheers. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.226.200|99.232.226.200]] 14:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

==New Pics==
I replaced the USP 45 with an exclusive pic... ;)
[[Image:HK-USP.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|HK USP - .45acp]]
Check out this pic. FNC sporter (the semi auto rifle imported into the U.S. all throughout the 1980s and the most common weapon in movie armories).
[[Image:FNC REM Sporter.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|FNC Sporter - 5.56mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:33, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

==Other forums==
: ''"I know people have been talking about IMFDB and its images on quite a few gun forums, but I had no clue anybody would have the audacity to take your images and claim them as their own!"''
Do you know of any gun forums that discuss IMFDB in regards to our photos? I've been checking to see if we created any sort of buzz for months and I've found nothing. If you would be so kind, I would really appreciate some links to some of these forums. Are we being bashed or praised. ;) You have piqued my curiosity. I know you try to promote the site but I sure would like to see the general perception from others in other forums. Thanks and best regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:12, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

==''The Park is Mine'' Machine Gun==

I'm pretty certain it's an [[MG42]] machine gun Mitch is using at the climax of ''[[The Park is Mine]]''. The rounds in the spare ammo belt he's carrying look too long to be 7.62x51mm NATO rounds as used by the [[MG42#MG3|MG3]] (which are shorter in comparison to the 7.92x57mm Mauser cartridge). Plus as pointed out by MPM2008, an MG42 would make more sense in the context of the film. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 13:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

==Got it, finally :)==
[[Image:AKMSPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS Custom - 7.62x39mm]]
Now I will be updating with this pic. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:11, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

==auto 9==
glad you liked the new pic. I'm trying now to get more specific movie guns, rather than classic examples of the gun types. That particular 93R was a rebuild from a damaged one that exploded back in the early 1990s. I have no idea where the Robo parts came from. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:27, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Un-released movies ==

Let us say I were to have access to a film which had not been released into theatres yet. Let us further say there were firearms in the film. Would it be frowned upon if I were to create a page for the movie?
[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:48, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Duplicate Page ==

An anonymous user created a duplicate page of the HK 416 just a few minutes ago. I will leave you and the other admins to deal with it, but I just wanted to let you know. [[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]] 22:09, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

==24==
I didn't put that entry in for Sutherland. I was just correcting the spelling of his name[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:51, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Gunner313==
The Remington 700 pic of Swagger cycling out a blank round is the blu-ray shot from Legions of Fate's website. I had literally just been looking at it before I noticed on here. It says on the image that he uploaded it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
: I'm replacing the shot on Heat of the Ruger KP90 now, since that is from Legions of Fate's website as well. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Lord of War==
Would you mind if in the near future if I added screencaps to [[Lord of War]]? I was watching it and noticed you missed a few things on the page. Plus it's the two disc with commentary and special feattures so I could add extra information. I wouldn't be able to do it right now but it would be on my list right after [[Get Smart]]. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I'm glad you noticed I've been cutting down on the screenshots. >:( You didn't add shots of those Vz 58 rifles in the arsenal, which according to the director were 2000 real guns rented by an arms dealer for the days of shooting, because it was cheaper to rent real guns than fake ones.

You also just missed a few shots that would be considered great on the site. I had no intention of muddling up the page with 20 screencaps. I try not to do that unless I feel it necessary.

IMO, adding a lot of screencaps is not being messy, it is being thorough. I show different users at different parts of the film. Since we have gun pages and actor pages which list these users, some proof helps. Last Man Standing was my one mistake, don't hold that against me.

But you have your opinions and I have mine. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Do you think I was too harsh on KIN93?==
Curious to know your thoughts. I was pretty stern when I warned against uploading obvious Bootlegs on the [[Defiance]] page. I also didn't buy his explanation that the movie [[Tunnel Rats]] has been seen in theaters in Europe already. Having been released in theaters is a big difference than having been released on DVD. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:32, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Jericho story is too questionable ==

Knowing some about government, military and control, I find it hard to believe with some of the stuff that happened. I mean sure the nuclear attack is one thing and ppl's shock and awe of it and maybe even the highways have turned into Road Warriors world, but this Allied States of America. In mere months, a new government was formed, with a new flag that's been printed everywhere in fabric, new currency and the loyalties of military when there is still a United States of America on the east side? It just seems...too weird. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for getting rid of the unneeded M4 picture, I didn't want it up there much either. I think it was an airsoft gun too because I looked up the image name and found it on a airsoft forum. Once again, thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree, if we got pictures of every configuration an M4 can be in, we would have tons. But anyway I think the three M4s we have are already good enough, and it shouldn't matter what the configuration is. I disliked the picture becaused it looked bad next to the other three, and it was unneccessarily large, I mean 25% of the picture was the M4, and 75% was the rug it was laying on. And once again, thanks, and great work on The Beast screengrabs by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:18, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for helping with my Sopranos page, I've been trying to screencap in each episode I watch. Also, thanks for helping with the "non gun" they used in the third season, it had me wondering for sure - good find! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== A little help ==

I just started my [[Police Story 3: Supercop]] page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question About Bond Actor Category ==

I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, [[Halle Berry]] & [[Honor Blackman]]) and villians (such as [[Robert Carlyle]] & [[Gert Fröbe]])? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

==You around?==
Or is life just kicking your butt? :) Well I have a slow month right now, but it could kick into high gear any moment. As soon as I'm on a location or working my butt off for a movie shoot, i'm outta here for a least a few weeks (or months). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

==The Departed==
I read what you had to change on [[The Departed]] page. I really hate some anonymous users. Should we block him or just warn him (I'd just block him since if he is willing to write this, it is obvious he doesn't care about being punished). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Thanks, what were you in DC for. The inaguration? Everyone has been talking about how much they hate Obama in my school. I refuse to say such a thing until I actually see what he does. Biden on the other hand, can go suck dick and die (excuse the term), I know what he's done before and hate him with every fiber of my being. Anyway, hope you enjoyed you stay. Glad to see your back. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::P.S. I'm adding season two of Mail Cal now. I'm surprised to see how no one attempt to ID the unknowns at the bottom of the page though.
:Maybe not forever. Who knows, in four years, we could have Tom Selleck as our president for all we know. :) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Kiraly 39M/43M Submachine Gun==

I recently stumbled on this article on this site and something about it struck me as a little odd. In addition to the wording a diagram of the operating system of the weapon was included which seemed really familiar. I checked and, sure enough, the whole article, word for word and picture for picture had been directly lifted from http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg104-e.htm . This is the most blatant example of plagarism I have seen on this site. I contacted you because, as an Admin and as far as I know, you monitor such things. - [[Charon68]]

==Glock 19 and welcome back from Liberal land==
Why I hope you didn't drink the kool-aid and start having that glassy eyed almost religious fanaticism that I saw on the television about the 'regal coronation ceremony'.......
I don't usually spend the time on fixing pics when I intent to photograph a real gun of that type. I fixed pics like the Ukranian FORT-12 because no way in hell am I going to get a 9x18mm Ukranian Fort 12 pistol any time soon. But when I have the time, which I haven't, I try to reshoot photos of the guns. I have a stack of guns right now that I'm supposed to photograph, but the actual time it takes to stop everyone, and set up the lighting and do the photography takes about 2-6 hours out of a day, which is a bit of a hassle. But I fully intent to photograph one of those 1st gen 19s when I get a chance. Good to have you back. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:07, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

==Okay you talked me into it==
Since the Glock 19 I was going to photograph, I can't find. I relented and fixed your pic. Whatcha think? Edit: I will delete this image and reload over the other one. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:45, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Glock19Pic.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 19 - 9mm]]
PS also on the Type 56C custom. There are several guns floating around. The one in Rambo and Pineapple express have a barrel that looks to be about an inch or two longer than the one in T3. Also there's the one in True Lies that's REALLY cut down. I was bummed when I took a hard look at the pics on the movie pages. I should have photographed more AK pistols when I had the chance but I thought they all had the same barrel length. Oh well. Will try to fix this in the future.

== Bourne AR-15s ==

Thanks for the quick note about the AR-15s used in ''[[The Bourne Identity (2002)]]''. I found what you had to say pretty interesting, so I'm going to post it to the page (giving you credit of course) and you can leave it or delete it as you wish. Should I link it to the M16 page, but credit the gun as an AR-15? (I'm not sure where to find the AR-15 page) - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Also thanks for helping out with some of the other screencaps (the Tauruses, etc.) I could try and get a picture of Conklin's gun but I don't think it was on screen enough to get a clear enough image. You're right about the PP, though, it does resemble one more than a P5C for sure. Thanks for the help. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Live Free or Die Hard ==

Hey Matt if you need confirmation on the SBR Mark 12 they have them. I worked on these guns for [[Live Free or Die Hard]]. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== The Shadow ==

Not A problem to the addition of the interview. That was the first film I worked on it was quite eye opening. The [[Titanic]] photo was from the auction and Syd had a copy so I just cleaned it up. The funny thing is I don't even have a DVD of the movie to get screen captures off of. I will check on the SBR and see if they are in. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Bourne Supremacy ==

Thanks for the help on the page. I definitely wasn't sure about the sniper rifle. I really bit my lip saying it was the WA 2000, but I checked a few other online forums and some other people said it, so I was figuring maybe it was some variant. But if you say it's not, then it most probably isn't. I'll work on getting better shots of the G36/SL8 and the P99 as well. I appreciate your help, thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:The more I look at that Keppeler & Fritz, the more I'm convinced that that's the one. Good find! I'll get to work on those other shots as soon as I can and if you want I can drop you a message once they're up? Also a heads up - I'll probably be working on ''Ultimatum'' (maybe tomorrow night), but that looks like it doesn't need quite as much work. If you have any input, I'd greatly appreciate it, you've been a tremendous help with the others. Thanks - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Okay, you can check both pages now. I added a few extra shots (maybe a little too many, but I wanted to make sure identification would be easier for us). - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Ultimate force revamped ==

So how do you like what I did to the Ultimate Force page? It's not finished since I still need to watch the rest of the series, but working on it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:01, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

::I just started downloading season 3 and won't get season 4 until a few days. And yeah, I have seen the series a couple times over. A friend of mine had it all, but I never asked him for it. I've downloaded the episodes before, but deleted them for space on my computer and that was before I was on this site. This is a very good series and I really liked it. I wished they made more of this. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:06, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm downloading season 4 right now. Hopefully will get it by the end of the week. I've been making additions, so can you take a look [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:27, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

:The few things I wish this series had was up to date M16s and M4s, or at least the British equalivent of those. I guess their armorers weren't equiped with the latest stuff. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

::But 500 isn't that big to me. It seems just right. To me, your pics are small. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

::Oh and don't get me started on the episode in season 4 where we see how the show portrays the US military when Red Troop goes on a joint op with them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I'll do it. I just forgot last night since I was tired and my internet was faulty. Besides, I still got a couple of the unknowns that needs to be ID [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

:Not fat an incompentants, but hot heads, arrogant, and cowboys. One even has sunglasses and speaking in a semi-southern accent, another guy said "Ya'll" and another guy's chewing on a toothpick. The "US military" that appeared on the show were supposed to be Green Berets. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

:Oh yeah, one of them is a racist [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

::Going on the topic on how this show portrayed Americans, the episode after the US Spec Ops/SAS Joint mission episode, we see a kid on a double decker bus with his parents, obviously from America and pretty much is interjecting everytime the tour guide speaks. The idea behind this kid seems as if he thinks America is the best country in the world kind of personality. Nothing wrong with that, I think the US is the greatest nation in the world, one of the most powerful, etc, but I don't blah my mouth off on it all day long, and if I was in a foriegn country like England, I certainly wouldn't waste my breath to let the entire bus know how prideful of my country I am. Makes you wish this kid got shot in the episode. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

:There still are a couple guns I need help IDing. If you can give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 08:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

:If only they didn't get rid of Jamie and Caroline. They were good characters. Jem and Ricky were my other favorites because of the humor I get from them. In the first 2 seasons, Caroline saw combat, even though she was a trooper. Why couldn't they do that with Becca when they introduced her in season 3? All she had to do was replace Caroline's job. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:15, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

==Usable pic?==
I was tempted to reshoot this on a pintle mount so that I can get closer to the gun. Let me know if this format is preferable. I am still tempted to reshoot some of the Aircraft guns much closer so that we see more of the gun and less of the mount. I had to shoot it in the warehouse and digitally wipe out everything else with white (what a pain!) since I was alone and this sucker was TOO heavy to lift by myself! ;)
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Browning M2HB on Tripod Mount - .50 BMG]]
best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW: I need a photo wish list again, so please let me know which guns you really want to see a good pic of :) I will try to track them down for pics. :)

==Help on Alex Reid==
I have a bunch of screencaps of British Actress Alex Reid using or holding guns in other films and was going to create an actor page for her. But I have never seen Ultimate Force. Does she, playing the character ''Captain Caroline Walshe'', use any guns in the show Ultimate Force?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

PS thanks for the input of on the M2. I have another one in the safe, but the barrel is off and i have to install the barrel myself (gun with barrel is around 99 lbs) Again it's more than one person can do easily. I need a wish list, I may see Mike Papac at Cinema Weaponry soon. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Beretta M9 ==

You're right about the M9, there are some other minor differences in the frame, but nothing too important. It was a stupid thing to ask for, as you said, they're are more important things the site needs. I told MPM2008 to scrap it from his wishlist. Best regards--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:24, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Wikipedia pirate==
Koalorka who contacted me before, graciously alerted me as to some guy uploading my pics as his. Since Wikipedia is pretty good about pirated images, especially when the author complains, they take them down. Are you a wiki member? I was just curious if you knew the protocols. Thanks.

Check out these images on Wikipedia.... Look familiar?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20090124031005&target=Josh+Woolstenhulme

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/M1_Garand.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/M1903Mark1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/AKMRifle.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/SMLE.jpg

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:21, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

==Alex Reid==
Thanks so much on helping with Alex Reid! :) I screencapped her movie "Arachnid" and are just preparing the images for upload and wanted to make an ACTOR page for her. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

==Out of town starting late tonight==
Am going on location and meeting with a director and television executive for the standard business stuff, but I will be traveling between midnight tonight and Tuesday, so I will be offline until then. So if I don't answer a question right away, it's because I'm in a meeting or on location. Thanks. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:47, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Out of town starting late tonight==
Am going on location and meeting with a director and television executive for the standard business stuff, but I will be traveling between midnight tonight and Tuesday, so I will be offline until then. So if I don't answer a question right away, it's because I'm in a meeting or on location. Thanks. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:47, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Hitman==
I had Hitman in my box of to do movies but I forgot to add it to my list. I'll let you do it though because you went through the trouble of buying it. Also, check the special feattures because they have an armorer show off the guns in the film. He is without a doubt the dumbest armorer alive and you see him shoot blank guns (with a side frame box showing the rounds hit things). It is horrible to watch. But some of the guns in the movie are hard to catch (like the FN F2000s are only visible for a few seconds). And by all means remove those other images, yours will beat any of the ones on the page now. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I have the two disc unrated which means I have an extra disc for a digital copy (which is pretty useless to me, but it does have special feattures, I'll probably add shots then). By all means keep the publicity photos (Olyphant pointing the P-18 at the screen is the best), but some aren't necessary (like the FBI guy with his USP, which was likely found on google. Some of these look like crap on a page but that first shot is really crystal clear). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I almost forgot, I'm going to upload Windtalkers soon. While some might find this weird, for my cat's burial yesterday, I fired seven blanks through my Mini-14, like a military/police funeral. Obviously she wasn't in any service but it made my mom happy, since both her mom and dad were in the marines and got similair services. It was a lot for a cat but she was a good cat and I've had her a long time. Anyway, I did a decent job of keeping the screencaps low for Windtalkers, but sometimes, too many great shots are present. Highest I got to is nine. Then I'll get [[Shoot 'Em Up]] done. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== More Airsoft ==

So what do you think of my new pictures I got in my profile. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:40, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

==Check these out :) ==
[[Image:KimberCustomIISWAT_Jackson.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Custom Kimber TLE II pistol with Surefire light - this is the exact pistol used by the team in the movie ''[[SWAT]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:SIGP220R LiveFreeDieHard.jpg|thumb|none|500px|This is the screen used SIG P220R used by Bruce Willis in the movie ''[[Live Free and Die Hard]]''. This one is Bruce Willis's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him and fired by him)]]
[[Image:StarBNickelPulpFiction.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nickel plated STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[Pulp Fiction]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:StarBUntouchablesScreenGun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Blued STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[The Untouchables (1987)]]''. This one is a screen used and fired handgun in the movie and was used by Kevin Costner on screen. ''Normally on generic guns I retouch out big scratches on the finish, but this is an original piece used in the film and the scratches are what identify it as authentic to people who know what Costner was firing.'']]

I got tons more, but I have to clean up the pics....
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Check out Gunmaster45's talk page==
And you'll the guns from "the Quick and the Dead" that I sent to him ;) I will be trying to get nearly all the weapons in that movie. Some are long gone (one was stolen off the set) and the others are in private collections (like famous producers), but I am trying hard. Hope you guys like the image quality. I'm not fond of LMO's pics and I always think I can take better pics of the guns than they did (but then I also work hard in post production to clean up the shot). best regards

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==More pics==
[[Image:S&W5906LateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Vincent's Smith & Wesson 5906 from ''[[Collateral]]'' - 9mm. This is a screen used gun. Note the late model 5906 pistols have the rounded trigger guard. ]]
[[Image:S&W5906EarlyModel.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|400px|Early Model Smith & Wesson 5906 - 9mm. The early model 5906 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but they changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]
[[Image:S&W5904LateModel.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]

These others were also screen used, but I need to recheck and verify what. BTW, I do 'scramble' the serial numbers (in Photoshop) when they are visible so that nosy people can't track down the original SN for the movie gun. I have TONS more pics, but I don't want to sit here all night. I have another gig to go to :) I also replaced the TEC-9 image with a good one and will be replacing a bunch more. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Hitman Special Feattures==
I'm saving shots for Hitman now. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Mixed up berettas==
you know you may be right, or the tags in the case might be on the wrong guns. I will call the "curator" tomorrow and double check. Figures, I usually take a photo of the ID tag on the gun, but I didn't have time so I didn't on all of the premiere Hollywood Hero guns. And they also had "short hand". I think I may have mentally confused DH 2-3-4 with LW2-3-4. I have to double check that. I made over 30 images updates last night, new P9S, New Model 19 from Lethal Weapon, I replaced the old images on the AMT longslide and AMT 5", New Para Ordnance P14, New Kimber TLE II, Added the Beretta 92S and 92SB, added a remington 1100 tactical, replaced the S&W 586, added the screen used S&W 3913 from Demolition Man, added the early S&W 5904, etc. When I have that much stuff, I might get some stuff mixed up. THANKS for the eagle eyes! I will double check based on your excellent observations!. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:56, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==You're right, I screwed up==
I did find ONE of my snapshots of the case and found this. I mixed up a bunch of the berettas, ARGHH!!! I have to double check all of them again.
[[Image:DisplayCase01.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
This is a snap I usually do to double check my work. Note that the extended 92F I had was actually the Demolition Man gun, not the LH gun. I did snap a shot of the LH gun, but now I have to find it. THANKS for the eagle eyes! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:10, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==Checks==
That's Stembridge's display case. Yes, they're back. Syd only sold off all of his full auto stuff, his western and pre-1945 stuff. But his handguns and post 1945 long guns are still around. '''Also I would prefer to check with Mike myself. ''' Don't want to step on his toes for verification, because Steve (like 99% of us) doesn't have this stuff memorized, and he will have to call Mike anyway, so I would rather do it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:51, 8 February 2009 (UTC) But Mike helped me with a bunch of stuff. When the pic is a generic image of a particular gun, I usually just photograph my OWN inventory. But he has some really interesting hero guns. As for multiple guns, most of the time there are FOUR guns, 1 primary, 1 backup, and 2 extra for catastrophic emergencies. If there are no malfunctions, the actor would use the same gun for the entire shoot (why put so much wear and tear on other handguns unless necessary?) Also most of the time, any custom modifications are REMOVED and either the gun is put back to stock configuration or is customized for yet another movie. These single guns are the only ones left and have been removed from active inventory primarily due to their historical Hollywood pedigrees.

On another note: I will be the only guy left on the west coast with an HK94 in the original DieHard configuration. Cinema Weaponry bought the remaining stock of full auto HK94 conversions and refurbished them to complete MP5 specs, so that now they all look indistinguishable from factory MP5s (Plastic lowers, three lug barrels, paddle mag release, etc.) So now there are only factory stock looking MP5s in the movies, however, ALOT of them in films are still those HK94 conversions, but now we can't tell visually if they are or not. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:51, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==Response==
Just wanted to make sure you understood that I intend to ask Mike on Monday and I did NOT want you bugging Steve about something that only Mike would know for sure. Just wanted to make that clear :) being that I seem to be unclear in the past. :) Anyway, since I wasn't sure if you understood my request. Thanks again.

'':But I forget...didn't Syd Stembridge basically take all of his remaining assets to Cinema Weaponry? I've been under the impression that Stembridge and CW essentially merged with each other after Stembridge closed down in '99. So aren't the guns that Syd kept now in Mike's hands? ''

The company location belongs to both and the building is '''Stembridge Gun Rentals/Cinema Weaponry'''. Syd still has a sizeable collection that belongs to him and not Mike, and they both share the building. But a majority of the guns belongs to CW, and 99% of the full auto guns. So yes and no. Syd has his own office and section so I tend to recognize him as his own entity. Since he sold off most of his stuff in 99, a lot of folks have just assumed he is gone for good. Except for the newer stuff, the majority of the guns in the cases were Stembridge rentals back in the day.

'': And yes, I imagine Mike must have a lot of cool stuff to photograph. One other thing you should ask about...remember the H&K G11 from Demolition Man? If you can at least get the story on where that gun came from, that would be awesome. I've always wondered...did they build it themselves? ''

Remember that ''HK thinks we suck and they hate us''..... ;) I tried to get a photograph of that very gun when Demolition Man was being filmed, and HK had this incredible insane "Lawyers from hell" contract that only in the context of the production could anyone even photograph the gun. I tried to get a pic (since there are NO good pics of this stupid gun) years ago and the people who had it were contractually bound NOT to let me photograph it. I will ask around, but there was only ONE real sample floating around that I knew about in the film industry.

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==Okay, I'm confused but here it is==
After a lengthy conversation with the original Die Hard Armorer (there were several guys on set usually but Mike was the lead who (at the time) rented from Syd)) he said several times the following: (a) He seems to think that the Beretta Pistol with the tag (on the table) with no ID plate (the one that is EXTRA beat up and has no extended mag button or slide release) IS the one from DH1 and LW1. (b) all the guns for Bruce in his movies were also used by Mel in his movies, so the same guns jumped back and forth between productions, but if it's a Beretta used by John McClane , then it's the same gun used by Martin Riggs. (c) Mike recalls that he didn't install the extended mag release button and slide release until the second movie (d) I was wrong on the DH lineage. It's meant to be the LW lineage, so the beretta did not appear in Die Hard 2 or 3 or 4, but instead appeared in Lethal Weapon 2 and 3 and 4. John McClane used the same beretta until 4 and since the original grouping had been retired, the berettas that appeared were generic ones like mine. So he is pretty sure that the beat up gun IS the original DH1 and LW1 Pistol (as well as LH2-3-4). The DH2 pistol/Demolition Man pistol is correct, according to the armorer. So i didn't mix them up, which mystifies me. I will take some screen caps to the shop some other day and see again .... but I'm not in the habit of challenging the guy who owns the gun , hahahahaha. :)

==Wanna hear something wild?==
I MAY have an opportunity to go overseas (France) and I will try to photograph some of Christophe Maratier's guns (Leon/Ronin/LaFemme Nikita/District B13/Taken/etc) I would like to also go picture taking in Britain at Bapty's or Sascha Robey's collection, but who knows? I don't have a connection/introduction yet with those guys. And with all the retarded gun restrictions going on over there......

==Stuff==
''Dan Shea went to Bapty's back in 2003 (I think) and they let him photograph a lot of their guns (which appear on LMO's site)''
Yeah, but WHO is the better photographer? ;) hahahaha. Seriously, I really work hard on the pics even after I take them and right now I'm sure that IMFDB has the best gun pics on the net. I was thinking of doing an actual table top book with the pics (including a bunch of other angles that I did not upload). As per the Berettas, I will take your screenshot to the shop the next time I'm there and try to (gently) reverify the history of the pieces. Either that or I'll say "MT2008 says you're full of SHIT!" heheheh. Those were done 23 years ago and we're all doing this from recollection. I think that's WHY I'm so intent on getting the historical images done with the pages complete. We're all getting older and who knows? Movie weaponry is a facet of movie history that has been neglected until now. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:07, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

==Pages==
Notice how we're still getting new pages with next to no input? Sure some of these guys put in the OBSCURE foreign film with ONE gun entry. They don't even bother to grab the poster and put it in or try to get any screengrabs. Screengrabs I can forgive, but not even the poster? (which is easy to google). I'm gonna stop trying to help these pages and just delete them until someone is ready to start actually working on the page. I haven't seen a lot of these films and have no way (other than ordering them from Amazon in Europe which I don't want to do). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:07, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

==Movie guns==
As per NYC armorers, Mike bought a bunch of guns at auction from the east coast. Only armorers buy the heavily blank adapted guns from other armorers. They're pretty useless except as frames to any other gun person. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

==Arachnid==
::Sorry for blowing iup at you. It was just the initial shock of NOT saving my work for an hour (stupid me) and then having the system deny my edits because of an 'edit conflict'. I'm all better now :) You were right. I checked back in the browser logs and found a version that was pretty close to the one I was trying to save, so I mass uploaded it. I was only freaked out because it was literally a few seconds between the "preview" and the "save" that the conflict in edits occurred. Talk about bad timing :) Anyway, I knew if I walked away from the computer for a little bit I could think more clearly and figure out a way to restore the work (or at least most of it). Sorry again. It was an innocent action, not your fault at all. It was just me panickingi because I had done an hour of work and didn't SAVE it, and was thwarted at the last second when I tried... But all is good in the universe . Please accept my apologies. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:10, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

==Chris Potter's mutant hands ;)==
I took another look at him holding the MAC-10 (or MAC-11), but look at the shots of his hands holding the Full sized UZI. That dude has monster hands! What do you think? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:16, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

==SIG or Sig?==
I made this change a long while ago and never got any comments on it. Do you think it is written "SIG-Sauer" or "Sig-Sauer"? Based on the fact people usually write SIG in capital letters because it is a company and Sauer is a maker's name, plus the fact they write it SIG-SAUER on the logo, I made the assumption it was "SIG-Sauer". Was I wrong? I see MPM doesn't always write it this way but I always assumed it was correct. What do you think? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re: Shit!==
It's okay, you weren't editing the same section as I was. It only creates edit conflict when you edit the same section, so since you didn't edit the Webley, I was able to upload fine. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re: Tomorrow Never Dies ==

Thanks! I wasn't sure about the LAW but Charon68 says he's pretty sure it's a LAW-80 so I used that label. Also, I wasn't sure how to label the fake MP5K-PDWs, so I left the title with the description you gave (an interesting bit of information too). Feel free to make any other corrections, I appreciate the help!! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Oh I don't know how I missed that haha. I changed the title of it to say "Heckler & Koch MP5K (with PDW folding stock)" as well. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Street Kings==
Absolutely, when I screencapped that movie, I had rented it so I was on a very strict deadline and probably missed some stuff. But do me some favors:
*Replace the R9, I'm ashamed to admit the shots are from Legions of Fate's website, I had totally forgot I did this too but I had originally missed this when I screencapped.
*I forgot to upload the screencaps I had of M16s in the police armory and deleted the screencaps before I realized this.

I guess memory failed me with the muzzle flash but please by all means add some shots. Are you using Itunes or a DVD? Because if you use Itunes the pictures will look brighter so if you could somehow darken them with an editor (or I could if you wouldn't mind) so they don't stand out to the other shots, I'd appreciate it. If you do use Itunes, try to see if you can confirm the Korean slaver's shotgun, because I look at it and it kind of looks like an Ithaca, not a Remington. And see if Coates' shotgun is a Mossberg 500 or 590 (it is a dark shot). Thanks. Look for [[3:10 to Yuma (2007)]], I'll have it on soon. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Thanks, the shots look great, I'm still going to test and see if I can darken the shots without ruining the quality but I doubt I'll be able to do anything. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up==
cc:d' to MT2008, GM45, Alienqueen1
I'm heading to another armory to photograph some more long guns this Saturday if all goes as planned. (I'll get a new StG-44 amongst other cool stuff (like a SR-25, all tricked out, etc.) I've been photographing a lot of pistols recently. Since the last group of famous gun pics took an entire day to photograph and multiple days to 'clean up and format' (and put electronic Copyright tagging) on the images. I am also returning to Stembridge/CW to photograph a bunch of their more famous subguns/shortshotguns. I already have permission to photograph the actual McMillan TAC-50 used in S.W.A.T. As far as my own inventory, I still have to rebuild and fix some of MY guns still. I still have an M249 full stock gun that I need to photograph and a Walther MPL that needs fixing. And a bunch of Benelli M3 Super 90s in different configurations :) I want to work some more on the M16 page. If I can't get a real 733 (for example) I will try to build up an exact duplicate of one in the right configuration and then take a pic of it. Some of my older photos of M16 guns (like the 733) were build ups (i.e. just a standard gun with the barrel cut down, and not the exact configuration of the original gun type). I want exact examples of each one so that our M16 page is '''the''' definitive page of M16 types on the net. BTW: I have to go down to CW again and I will try to grab more "the Quick and the Dead" guns ... :) More handguns, especially Sharon Stone's SAA and Russell Crowe's gun (and original holster) and all the original screen used guns from 'Iron Man'. ;) I am also trying to get a ton of more famous screen used western guns for GM45's pages. (I let HIM do the honors on the Western movie pages ;) ) Just a heads up guys! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

==The Boondock Saints==
My screencapping of the film is taking considerabley longer than anticipated, mainly do to the scene in the dealer's armory. I have documented EVERY gun seen in that room, with a red circle over each. It was a great film, but I'm getting a serious head ache from all this. I'm trying to get it all prepared for tommorow, but I don't know if I can. One picture was particularly difficult, I had forgotten to document an M79 launcher, but deleted the image that had it on! Since I don't currently have the DVD to re-screencap, I took another shot (same image, but circling a different gun), and removed the circle with painstaking edits and got the shot. Sometimes this work is tough. You got any movies you plan to do in the future? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I'm so OCD on IDing all the guns I practically scan each scene with my super mind powers. I love TBS, it has some great quotes (littered with cusses, but still worthy of adding in the captions IMO), and so far the hardest armory scene I've done was on [[Commando]], and I didn't circle all of those, I just said what I saw. I'm kinda nerdy, I'm trying to memorize the prayer the brothers say before they kill people. I used to take Latin so I know basic words and could likely translate some of these quotes. Prayers are usually very simple Latin. Same thing with their tatoos. Of all the scenes in that movie, my favorite was probably the scene when Rocco kills the guys in the diner because the way it was shot and the music used just made it perfect. Either that or the shootout in the game room, because intercutting with Decker re-enacting the scene was cool. Seeing Willem Dafoe kiss a guy (passionately) and wearing drag was rather disturbing though. After I finish this movie, I'm going to do the first Matrix movie. Then the mini-series [[Lonesome Dove]]. Then I'll do the other Matrix movies. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== What's up with the screenshot? ==

I just saw the screencap you uploaded of the [[Carl Gustaf M/45]] page and was wondering what's up with it, since I made that page. I'm not mad or anything, just curious as to what's up. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 17:28, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

== Glock Classification ==

I went ahead and added the [[Glock]] page to the Submachine Gun category since the [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] does technically classify in that category, also we have the [[M16 rifle series]] classified in the SMG and sniper rifle categories for the [[M16 rifle series#Colt 9mm Submachine Gun|Colt 9mm SMG]] and [[M16 rifle series#Mk 12 Special Purpose Rifle|Mk. 12 SPR]], respectively. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 17:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

==Titles starting with 'The' ....==
I am willing to start mass changing titles that start with "The" to the standard nomenclature (used by IMDB) (i.e. instead of '''"The Shining"''' (yeah I know we don't have that movie ...) it would be '''"Shining, The"'''. I can't count how many people have complained to me (in person, not on the net) about that.

I have some famous armorers complaining about that ;) SO I am willing to start changing them myself. Any complaints? Seriously, if any of you are seriously offended by that, I will change them back.... no charge ;) But the last straw was some blog making fun of us because of that. :( So I am going to start changing the titles. Just wanted to give a heads up....

''('''edit:''' I've done nine titles as a test. So far, I like them, but I think you had a cool technique regarding re-directs which would allow the main page to have the fixed titles, but when you click on it, it goes to the original named page. Please let me know if you think that is possible. Other than that, let me know what you think regarding the asthetics of the naming changes. I like it for the listings, better than the previous style.) :)''

Update on the new gun pics....
I started the new photo shoot on Say, but had to cut it short. Will reschedule and complete my massive new gun shoot either tomorrow or the next day. When I have a bunch, I start uploading them. :) But you guys are already bored with guns pics by now.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Title change==
Well we all can disagree on somethings, I've always hated how our listing alphabetized on "the" as a "T". I think that's just stupid, since nearly everyone ignores "The" when looking for a title. Libraries do it, Video stores do it and I get pissed when I look for "The Dark Knight" but instinctively look in the 'D' section and see nothing. I've hated it since I joined the site, but also recently I've shown this site to famous armorers, and when their first comment is "great site, but sorting by "the", that's stupid" was the motivation I had to get off my ass and fix it. Heck, Mike Papac hated it. So I will still change the titles. I think you will find it easier to find movie pages as well. Thanks for your understanding. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== ''In the Army Now'' M16's ==

It's been a while since I've seen this movie and I was recalling what I could from memory, but I could have sworn they used M16A2's in at least some scenes. Hopefully someone will be able to screencap this movie and put the matter to rest. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:13, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==AK issues==
Okay, You're gonna hate me even more, but I was wondering how we can fix the AK issue. We have too many AK variants that are starting to appear and to add them all to the AK page may be confusing since so many are made by different countries (including the US as of recent years). I '''was''' thinking of an original page for only RUSSIAN AK-47 rifles and then all other Russian designs (AK104, etc.) And then a second page for AK-47 - variants (Chinese) and then AK-47 - variants (European). Or something like that. I would like to have a page where we can put the European AK variants (Bulgarian, Hungarian, Romanian, Yugoslavian, etc.)

Anyway here is just me thinking out loud.
1) AK-47 (Russian designs only) 7.62 or 5.56mm only (Recently Russia has been making 5.56 versions of all their guns)
2) AK-47 Variants (Chinese) 7.62 or 5.56mm (All variants including commercial monstrosities like the MAK-90 thumbhole guns)
3) AK-47 Variants (European) 7.62 or 5.56mm (This is where we can start listing the Hungarian, Polish, East German, Bulgarian, Romanian, Yugoslavian variations)
4) AK-74 (Russian Designs only) '''5.45mm''' guns only and all derivations

But it's the preponderance of the Chinese AK clones that are used to impersonate Russian guns in movies, that screws up my 'evil plan'. I know you want all ak variations on one page (like our M16 Page) but the M16 page has all variations made in the U.S. We don't have a dozen other countries making their own custom variations of the M16, like the AK does.

Anyway, I'm not chomping at the bit to do this, but I was wondering where I could start putting entries for the Hungarian, Romanian, or Yugo guns.... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:13, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==RPG in movies==
While I obviously don't have the experiance of MPM, I think the RPGs have special warheads that POP when fired (watch them fire RPGs in [[Black Hawk Down]], the warheads seem to explode instead of launch), or in [[The Dark Knight]], they might fire foam warheads similair to the warhead but it just hits stuff instead of blowing up. And of course the cheapest alternative is to use all CGI.

Check out ''[[The Boondock Saints]]'', I finished it finally and it has 52 guns! No wonder I put it off, I knew that armory was going to kill me. Anyway, I have to go to school tommorow so I'm going to sleep. Ugh, I hate school. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==You might get a kick out of this==
Would YOU want a handgun collection like this? The pistols on the right side belong to Syd Stembridge (he still has some stuff), and the back wall and left wall belong to Mike Papac. (And yes, the boxes on the ground are full, there is no room on the walls left. All the empty slots are for handguns that are either out for repair or out on rental. My own handgun inventory is less than half of theirs, so I'm a small fry compared to these guys. But I thought you'd get a kick out of this pic. A similar pic has been seen in articles in the past about Stembridge Gun Rentals, so it's nice to see that this room still exists, though I need a bigger wide angle lens, I can't get back far enough to even get a fraction of the room. It is massive.
[[Image:HandgunRoom.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|the handgun room]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:53, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==Imagine if you will.......==
Walking down a hallway in a warehouse, from floor to ceiling are wooden cubbyholes, in these cubby holes are jammed multiple items which comprise three specific things (either submachine gun, select fire pistol, or short barreled shotgun). I am not sure how these items are sorted but I don't care, I like it! I LOVE poking around places like this. It make me happy :) I also see some items which I will try to photograph for IMFDB in the future (recognizing some of the stuff that I have on my list to take pics of for some of the specific movie pages). I just needed to cheer myself up after hearing daily news from the new administration! Just thought I'd share it! :)
[[Image:ArmoryWall02.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|Which cubbyhole do you want to stick your hand in first!? ;) ]]
MPM2008

== Hey, thanks for the information. ==

I'm still rather new to the whole wiki thing. This is the first wiki site I've ever contributed too, and I'm still getting used to the way you guys do things. I've built up a few pages now, but I rely on you guys for most of the identification of firearms, I'm not too good at that. If you can, look over the pages I've made and see if you can identify anything. I've built up [[The Deer Hunter]], [[He Was A Quiet Man]], [[American Beauty]], and [[Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels]] since I've come here. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

== Formatting Errors ==

Thanks. I'm still learning. Appreciate the advice. [[User: Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== What? ==

Someone could've been looking for the nail gun for whatever reason. Why'd you delete it? Afterall, it is a used wepond in the movie, and should be regarded as one. There's a few other weponds used in this site that aren't actually weponds, but THEY are allowed? What's up with that?

==HK94s==
then we should separate the HK94 conversions from the real MP5s. I am against ''"just calling them MP5s and be done with it"''. I've seen those guns and the receivers are '''marked''' HK94 and their paperwork calls them converted HK94. Everyone just called them MP5 because they were lazy. Also it is a part of movie weaponry history that these converted HK94s were used. 99% of them are gone now, Mike Papac bought all the remaining ones (except mine) and did the full conversion so that we can't tell. But it's wrong to deny the HK94's place in cinema history when they were used so much (and we can also tell the difference). Also there are more Post 86 samples of real MP5s NOW than HK94s in movie inventory. The transferable HK94s are mostly in the hands of private Class III people. So we need to list what films they appeared in, since after the cut off date (when Mike converted the remaining few completely), they for all practical purposes ... disappeared from movies. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:00, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
:: Aw crap. Never mind then. The thumbs on that page are so small that I got confused. I blew them up and you're right. They ARE full MP5s. My bad. I guess we're on the same page. :)

==New pics==
I know that they're not as sexy as the hero guns, But I have been slowly and steadilyi replacing stock gun pics (like the AKMS, the Glock 27, (and I replaced the shot of that SL8 new model that the other uploaded ;) ). But MAN! the new users are kicking my ass. Creating new page after new page. My list of gun photos to get has tripled! :( MPM2008

== Maxim MG08 Photo ==

Thanks. Thats a much better photo of a Maxim on ''[[Wind and the Lion, The]]''
[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==you tired yet?==
I've noticed you've been re-directing all the bullshit new pages created by new anonymous users to the correct pages. I've been deleting some BS pages too but you've been very good at cleaning up IMFDB. MPM

==edits==
Ah yes, silly me :) I forgot about your directive to do re-directs. :) Good idea.

== Goodbye ==

Just wanted to see if you learned your lesson (which you did). Ciao.

==We Were Soldiers==
Hey Matt, On the AKs had the receivers made and then I assembled them while the unit was at Ft.Bragg filming. They are then nicest and smoothest AK's I have ever worked on or used. Steve

==M16K==
Glade you liked the photo of the M16K, LaFrance also built it in .45 caliber but I don't think any ever made it into the film industry. Steve

==Taking no more gun pics==
apparently it is becoming more acceptable for others to create 'frankengun' photoshop jobs out of my original pics and not even give credit. Heck. I would give credit to the jacked shots that I clean up with recropping, or color correcting if I knew who the original photographer was. But that's a minor point. My intent all along was to replace all jacked images with official licensed images. It's a lot of hard work and only a very few (like you) even seem to appreciate it. (plus you're way more tolerant of the inevitable flood of conflicting page styles and info from new (and some anonymous) users ... inevitable as the site gets more recognition). I'm on hiatus for taking pics of guns for a bit. Working hard for IMFDB should be enjoyable, not irritating. :( A break is good thing. MPM

==re:Re==
Thanks for clearing that up. As you know I'm not an AK pro. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Anonymous User 74.129.198.160==
What a dick, thanks for blocking him. I particularly disliked his comment on the ''[[Heist]]'' page, although I kind of laughed when he changed Solid Snake to "Solid Cock". None the less he was a vandal and the site is far better off without him, good work. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:''A vandal and a jackass, most definitely. Have to admit though, that last change he made was priceless. Blade uses a Benelli M3 to commit tax fraud. I'm still laughing.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:25, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

:: Well, atleast he has a decent sense of humor. - [[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]]

== server upgrade ==

We serve up a lot of images and need to step up on both the speed and size of the drives along with the speed of the processors. We're currently on a 4 core 2.4Ghz Xeon server (which we are constantly maxing out). The upgrade I was looking at is an 8 core 3Ghz Xeon box with a 15k RPM 72GB drive. We would keep the current server as a 'failover' which would also host the latest backup. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:41, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

:I just checked out the server stats, removing the front page screencaps reduced the server's processor load 30%. We need to figure out a way to just show a single image and link to the article, maybe we use the movie poster image? Or just select one highlight shot? We could use the same choose and option code we had been using and just insert a standard image tag with a screenshot of our choosing linking to the page? That may be the quickest way to work it for now. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Blocking anonymous users, period.==
Perhaps there's a way so that anonymous users just can't do anything other than look, period? It would sure save you and the other mods/admins a lot of trouble in the long run... --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 20:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

== Jacked image ==

Hey, MT2008, I came across a site with a jacked MPM2008 image on it: [http://guns.wikia.com/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_MK23]

I already left a note on MPM2008's talk page btw.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:26, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

It looks like he jacked Several images from MPM. Personally I need to check what this person has contributed to the site before I say more. but I know I've seen that handle before on some not so great pages. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 03:13, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Jacked Image ==

I would just warn him not to upload MPM2008's images on other sites, I don't think he knew that MPM didn't want his images on other sites.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:50, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I have removed them from the gunpedia and hopefully get them deleted.
[[User:Cutaway]] 18:37, 26/03/2009 (UTC)

==RoboCop 2==
Excellent work with [[RoboCop 2]], the page came out great.

I have to say, that UC-M21 Hob uses is pretty scary, the thing folds up to look like a lunch box but in seconds unfolds into a SMG. I saw someone using one in a Knob Creek video, that's a gun you don't want to see in kid's hands.

Anyway, I've been working on ''[[Magnum Force]]'' but sickeness has slowed my work process. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==THANKS! for the note of support==
It was appreciated. Well I am back from a pretty tough assignment (over a week of 14 hour days and nothing but grief) Actually I didn't know WHO did WHAT on the so called franken guns. I was not really paying attention for months to the M16 page and only concentrated on the AP74 22 clones at the bottom. I didn't even know that some guy (Kin93) out of Hong Kong had made so many franken guns out of my pics. But after a really BAD week (which I will go into on a general note later) I scanned up on the M16 page and saw literally a bunch of Franken M16 pics. I thought "WTF?!!" It wasn't so bad, in just it was just the topper of a really bad week (where someone in the real world took a custom shotgun I built, replaced the buttstock, and then showed it off to various art directors as a gun 'HE' built even though I did 99.99% of the work). So it was kinda just the straw that bent (not broke! :) ) the Camel's back for that time. I KNEW I had to take a break, and I sure felt better when I put a stop to the 'picture requests'. like a weight was taken off my back. (Also I was getting a little TOO wound up over the wave of new anonymous/newbie users whose gun knowledge is only airsoft/Video Games making wrong edits on all the pages. It was bound to happen and is the risk we all take on an open wiki page. Anyway THANKS for the note. I am now motivated to photograph real versions of the Franken guns, also so that we (IMFDB) don't get accused of 'creating virtual/fictional weapons' on the Internet.) Hope you've been doing well. best regards MPM

==Executive Decision==
Nice job on the page. I also like how you don't put 20 images of the same gun ad nauseum per section. When I see the 'crazy terrorist' with the Norinco Type 56-1 I always expect him to scream "I Blow You! Mother Bitches!!!!!" hahahahahaha. MPM2008

==44 minutes shootout==
I intend to built up the gun and rephotograph it for the page. Probably this weekend. :) Also when I do that, the franken gun picture doesn't have conflicting LIGHTING sources, like it does when people do Franken gun pics. An eagle eyed person can see the color changes or lack of shadows, etc. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:35, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

== Oops ==

Sorry about that. Kinda forgot. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 08:01, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

==Browning BDA 380==
hahahaha! Thanks for listing the Browning BDA for the Devil's own. I now feel validated in making the pistol page ;) That issue still brings up the discussion of pages for guns that don't (yet) have movie credits. I've created several pages for guns that I pulled from active motion picture armorer inventory, but I don't know if they've been in films yet. Did the Page help you at all with Identifying the pistol? ;) MPM2008

==Barb Wire==
I'm taking a break tonight so go for those changes. Fresh eyes probably catch things that someone who's been capping for hours does not. I'm not done screencapping so I will have more pics later. I will also try to get closer shots of the suspect guns. As for the MGC guns, yeah, we should put that in an MGC-16 category. But when they fire they are using the M16A1 with a heavy A2 barrel and A2 handguards setup like in the picture above the group shot. Again, I never noticed how many continuity errors they make in movies. In one shot Barb is grabbing a SIG and in the closeup it's a Glock ... WTF? I just got sick of looking at an empty Barb Wire page, even though the movie kinda sucked. Hope you like the Screengrab quality. I actually want to replace a bunch of the pages who have BAD crappy screengrabs. .... also you notice that there's a bunch more guys posting FULL frame screengrabs? versus widescreen? should I replace a full frame shot with a widescreen of the same shot (thus showing more of the picture?)..... MPM
:Hey Matt, I built the guns for Barb Wire when I worked at Ellis. MPM noticed the error when Pamela Anderson was firing a SIG then it switched to a Glock. That happened on the re-shoot they hired a new Prop Master for the re=shoots and he did not like to shop at Ellis. So he went to another armory and rented the weapons but we had built some guns that no one else had hence the error. Also on the Desert Eagle I built the ones used for the show and there are only two in the configuration. The Prop Master had two others built for doing the poster and other media and they don't match. The hero Desert Eagles are polished stainless frame with a blued slide and barrel. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Hey Matt, The Sig 228's used on "Barb Wire" were also used on "Virtuosity". The IR/Laser system was installed by Wilcox Industries UITC Laser System for Ellis. We had six made and I believe four of them were two tone. I will check out Barb Wire's page and add the info on the Eagles. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Long mountain outfitters==
I soooo want to rephotograph a lot of those movie guns. I think mine are better but its a lot of work. BTW, I intend to replace all the Franken gun pics with correct shots of original built guns. Heck, if the guys don't want a better and original pic of the gun they were trying to create, then tough titties. I will photograph what I can when I have the time, but I'm still not taking requests because there are a lot of them and some of them are quite difficult. MPM

==User ID: 81.170.34.14==
This guy's left his own personal comments all over the CoD4 page about his favorite guns. I originally thought it was confined to just one gun until I read over the rest of the page. Should I take the time and move them all over to the Discussion tab or should I just let you guys ban him and then clean up the page? --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 19:14, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

==My latest movie/tv pages==
I just realized that I've been focusing primarily on shows with Hot women as the stars (with guns) .... [[V.I.P.]] (Pamela Andersen), [[Barb Wire]] (Pamela Andersen), [[Painkiller Jane]] (Kristanna Loken), [[Bionic Woman]] (Michelle Ryan). Hope folks don't think I'm obsessed with hot women and guns.... MPM2008

==LMO==
Notice that LMO has a Seecamp 32 auto on sale as a screen used gun in Die Hard with a Vengeance? I wonder if you know where in the movie that weapon appears? http://www.longmountain.com/inventory/Seecamp32Auto.jpg
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:17, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

==Lord of War==
As I mentioned previous, I finally got around to capping ''[[Lord of War]]'', and have all the images saved. I only took a few and don't think I'll clutter up the page. Since it's your page, remove whatever you don't like. I also brightened and sharpened them so they look nice. I caught just a few you missed but nothing big. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Yeah I have that screencap of the Belly gun. Maybe another day I'll replace your shots but for now I'll just upload what I have. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I have a shot of the AR-7 gun circled, but I have no clue what it is. I only have a few more guns to upload and then I'm done. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Okay, all done. I was wondering, should I make the images 600px or are they okay at 500px? And do you like the movie poster we have currently or could I replace with one I have (it's the standard DVD cover, with Ethan Hawke in the background with Beretta 92FS Inox)? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Thanks for the ID help==
I'm bleary eyed by watching all the episodes, freezeframing them endlessly, going back and forth, taking the screencap and fixing it for IMFDB.... hahaha. Also I try hard to make good screenshots. would it be bad to replace some of the CRAPPY screenshots on the site? Also what is with the gigantic ... but blurry ... screenshots that I see other users uploading? I think there should be a screenshot bootcamp for all users.... :) Anyway, thanks for the help with the guns. :) MPM2008

==Re: Weapon Id's==
Hey Matt, No problem on id's glad I can help. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Re: Man on Fire Glock 34==
Hey Matt, From the photos I would say that the Glock 34 used was a special build but that is probably due to the fact the frames were not ready. Last minute we need the pistol today at noon kind of deal so the weapon was put together using a existing frame and barrel. They did the scene and the frames were completed for the Glock 34 to be used for the rest of the show. The lack of ports in the barrel is common as we need the peak pressure for blanks hence the non-ported barrel. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==SCI FI guns==
As a side note, I finally got an email response from the effects house that did the guns for Starship Troopers, Space Above & Beyond, Star Trek Voyager and Babylon Five. I might be able to get high quality custom pics of these fabricated weapons for IMFDB, which would be pretty cool, since IMFDB would (again) be the only place to have the pics. I've known these guys for decades, but trying to get them to commit to taking the time out for a photo shoot of prop weapons has been a REAL CHORE. :) best regards MPM2008

==Watermarking MPM's images==
I had showed this to MPM a while ago and wanted to show it to you. I designed a watermark for his images based on the site's logo, because I figured it would cut down on his images being stolen. He liked it but figured it wasn't necesarry to since he puts some form of protection on the images already. I still think it is cool though. What do you think?

[[Image:ColtMkIVSeries70watermarked.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== A Better Tomorrow ==
Thanks for checking that unknown handgun out!
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 00:11, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

== X-Men Origins: Wolverine ==

Am naughty I know but I did see a bootleg version of the movie. Now I know I cannot post vidcaps of it but...can I create an article for it?

[[User: Charon68|Charon68]]

==RE:CDS ==
Hey Matt, The photos from ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' is definitely a early Taurus Model 85. Look close to the Colt Detective Special 3rd Gen but the barrel contour is different. I am glad the you like the Colt Detective Special 3rd Gen photo but the credit goes to member [[User: Charly Driver|Charly Driver]] posted the photo originally but it was just attached to on of his pages. I just put it on the Colt Detective Special page and cleaned it up so others can use it also. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== The Unit AIG rifle ==

I think I do still have that episode. Let me take a look. What's the rifle called? Full name. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:23, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:Ok, I got 3 ok shots of it, but I don't qute know how to designate it on my Unit page. Maybe you can help with the name game. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:35, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:The bipod is on wrong? I knew there was something funny about this photo. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:40, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

And the episode was ok. I think it's the last episode of the season. They need to throw in more of the budget for shootout scenes. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:43, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

==Finally replaced some of the old images==
[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two tone Jericho 941. All of our Jericho (original pics) are of the original 941. I don't have any of the 941FS, which seems to be the model which is used whenever they have two toned Jericho pistols - the FS has the decocker on the frame, not the slide. I'll check around to see if anyone has a 941FS model.]]
[[Image:HK91A3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler & Koch HK91-A3. I hated that jacked image of the A3 model with a 'custom flash hider and barrel' it was a non-standard configuration that no one would ever see in a movie.]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1894.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1894 - .30-30. Is this a saddle ring carbine? There's no marking on it other than Winchester Model 1894 - .30-30 Winchester and there doesn't seem to be a hole for the saddle ring, but it looks to be the same]]
[[Image:Benelli m3-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|FINALLY replaced that jacked image of a Benelli M3 Super 90!! I will also have a version of the M3 with ghost ring sights and the shorter pistol grip version soon]]
[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Finally replaced that 'place holder' picture of the black Jericho 941. I was sitting, staring at a 941 for weeks, but I didn't have time to set up the photographic lighting rig. This one is way better than the previous one.]]
I'm just doing pics as I can, not rushing out and killing myself trying to get weird or wacky configurations. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== I am Legend ==

Thanks, I saw the shot, I wanted to include that shot, but wasn't sure if I should use it since it was in the same scene. I'll go back and get it a few minutes, thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:56, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded all the shots I taken so far, and I'll be taking more tomorrow as well. If you have anymore suggestions for Screenshots, let me know. I uploaded the shot you mentioned and explained it's significance since some users argued whether it was a USP Variant or not when the page was first built. Thanks for the information by the way, I'll keep it in mind next time I see a Mark 23.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:34, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

== Memento pistol ==

Hey, thanks for helping with the S&W from ''[[Memento]]''. I had considered that it might have been the 6906 but it didn't seem to have the double-stack frame. Is it a different variation of the 6906? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:33, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:Haha no problem, I had just watched it in the movie so it was fresh on my mind! Thanks for pointing out the 4556, I forgot the check those variations. I've noticed quite a few movies have had 4556 and 4566 models as well, we'll probably be needing pages on those anyway. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

==Where should I put these?==
Hey, you're pretty good at this sort of thing. Where do I put this image on the Beretta page? There's no Vertec section but it is a straight front pistol grip. I re-arranged the Beretta 92 page anyway, grouping the 'odd slide/frame' models together, (Brigadier, Elite, Centurion)
[[Image:Beretta-92FS-Vertec-SS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS Vertec - 9mm]]

Should we have a performance center page? :)
[[Image:S&WPerformanceCtr627.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Performance Center Model 627 - .357 Magnum]]

==Lupara Page==
Hey Matt, I just noticed this page made titled Lupara. The term is for sawed off shotguns not makes or models do you think this should be redirected to double barrel shotgun page? I will be posting seven new film tomorrow on the site it is the entire Thin Man series of films. I am working on the layouts right now and will post when finished. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==BB/Pellet Guns==
Hey Matt, I working on the layout for Thin Man right now and a question came up. Do we include BB/Pellet Gun on this site? If we do can we just place them under one heading on the Gun page? Let me know when you can. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Benelli==
I just realized that the latest Benelli M3 Super 90 pic is more like the version used in the films like HEAT and the Getaway. The Ghost Ring sights version of the old jacked picture wasn't seen as much as the factor sights. MPM2008 thanks for the note! :)

== Inside Man AKs ==

Hey, thanks for looking at the AKs used on ''[[Inside Man]]''. I'd hate to be a burden but I'm not good at identifying between AK-47s and Norincos (even with the receiver/sight information), so if you get a chance would you be able to identify which have which guns? In the meantime I'll try and decode it but I wouldn't want to make any mistakes and I trust your opinions more than I'd trust my attempts! Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 02:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
:Okay, thanks, I'll try and sort them out the best I can [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah I just noticed when I went to check them out that they all seemed to be milled-receiver AK-47s. I don't know why I made the Type 56 mistake but thanks for clearing it up! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:39, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

==L6 rotary launcher==
Hey Matt, I was wondering if you can change this to the correct title. It should be '''Penn Arms Rotary Launchers''' not L6 rotary launcher since they have multiple models of the rotary launcher and several different models are in the film industry. Check out their website when you get time. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, I will work on the Penn Arms Rotary Launchers page in the next couple of days. We used them at both Ellis and at CW also Stembridge had them. Thanks for moving that. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== S&W 4506 ==

How Well, in your opinion, does a 4506 stand up to a Sig 226? I have been considering buying a 4506 and I would like to know what the gun is like before I buy it.

==Chuck guns==
Wow, where did you get the pics of Chuck screen used guns. I just wish they were better photographs ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:30, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

==ISS==
I was going to go to ISS and do a photo day. Oh well. I guess I don't have to do THAT anymore. I just wish people knew how to take proper pictures. No offense, but even if I give detailed instructions as to how I take the photos, no one listens and we still have the same level of quality of photographs that we see on Gunbroker (except for the shots of linoleum floor and white socks on feet ;) ) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 16:53, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Idiot 24.119.243.233==
Hey Matt, Thanks for blocking this idiot I send sometime reverting back the pages he messed up. Something has to be change on who can edit pages or it will happen again. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, I would be more than happy to help out in Admin. Talk to Bunni and see what happens. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
::Hey Matt, Thanks on the recommendation. I have a lot of ideas to pass on to other admins on how to clean up some pages and improve the appearance overall. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, I was made an Admin Today. I what to say thanks again for recommending me.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==WTF?==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Beretta_M92_%22Samurai_Edge%22
This is a dedicated gun page to a firearm that belongs to the Resident Evil VG universe only. Do you think this gun deserves a separate page? Being that it is a weapon that only exists in either airsoft or the VG series Resident Evil and is based on the 92FS or Elite alreadY? Your thoughts are appreciated. MPM2008

==Thanks==
I had no idea that this guy plagiarized the entire page from another site. Yep, that's a sure fire DELETE in my book. Thanks so much for the input. MPM2008

==Thanks==
Thanks you for the compliment! I didn't like the older Taurus images. That low resolution Stainless model pic bugged me for a long time. Also movies change the components so now that I have the guns (or easy access to them) I can swap out items to make the gun look identical to the movie versions. It's nice to know that folks notice ;) I did the two tone guns primarily for GM45's Shoot Em Up page since I noticed that the movie had TWO different 2=tone versions. Also I noticed that a lot of pages had the PT99 Stainless because they didnt' have a PT92-AFS with the proper black grips. BTW: do you think we're spoiled regarding gun pics. I remember the bad old days when we had so many jacked AIRSOFT images! ugh! LOL. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Did someone ask for a Mossberg Pic?==
[[Image:Mossberg590Modified.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500C wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge]]
I could have sworn that someone, someplace requested that I photograph a Mossberg 590 shotgun (parkerized version) with a 500C wooden furniture for some movie '''but I can't remember now what it was for'''. Well, here it is! :) I actually bought the 500C wood to put on one of my 590s for the pic so I sure hope that a movie used this configuration somewhere :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Two tone guns...who knew!==
HAHAHAHa. you guys are getting a lot of mileage out of the two tone SIGs photos! I had NO IDEA that combo was so prevalent in movies. :) Well I did the Two Tone Taurus for GM45's Shoot Em Up page, but it's nice to see that other films have used it as well. If you're wondering why I have not done an INOX yet, is that there are several versions of the INOX. The only ones I have access to are FUGLY. They are later models where the SS is a matted 'satin stainless' that looks like someone spraypainted the gun with that crappy model kit silver paint. The finish is horrible. I'm trying to find the earlier ones where it was polished or semi polished Stainless (also I'm not too keen on all of the black accents (trigger, mag release lever, hammer, etc.) on the newer INOX guns) I'm looking for an all SS one. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

==Calico Weapons page==
Well I've been busy, photographing every Calico Variant I can think of (or that is available to me). The Calicos are probably the least photographed weapon on the Internet and a lot of the web based information pages on the Calico are either wrong or lame. IMFDB will soon be the only place where a lot of these variants are seen (well at least via a cursory Google search). Tell me what you think of the page and if you see a Calico on a movie page that is NOT listed, I would appreciate the help! :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

==Calicos==
''Also, have you ever noticed that Calico used to call their weapons the '''"Liberty I"''' and '''"Liberty II"'''? What is with the "Liberty" nomenclature, and which guns does it apply to?''
::The '''Liberty I''' carbine and the '''Liberty III''' Pistol was just a renaming trick to get around the 'named gun' assault weapon bans that were popping up all over the country after 1990, (Cincinnati, Chicago, NYC, Maryland, New Jersey, Hawaii, etc.) the 901 was a renamed gun specifically because of the California ban of the Model 900 (California's original 1989 ban only banned the M900 and M950 by name) Their later ban, restricted by 'features' (which is all bullshit anyway, but you know that already). Anyway, other states saw what manufacturers were doing, so they started banning "The 900 SERIES". Though lawyers thought that it was questionable to ban by series, Calico didn't want to take the chance.... (what if a manufacturer has a model type starting with 900 but it is NOT an assault weapon? Is that banned too?) To avoid that, in the early 1990s Calico just renamed the '''950''' pistol to be the '''Liberty III''' and the '''900''' rifle to be the '''Liberty I'''. That's it. They are identical guns.

''Oh, yeah, and are you sure the ''Deep Rising'' Calicos are the M955A? Not saying you're wrong, just that I personally can't tell the barrel length with those fake rotating barrels on them.''
:: The overall length is closer the 955A than any other model. The 900 is too long. They would have had to cut down the barrel, so why would they do that? The 960A is too short and they would have had to put a barrel extension to mate the end of the barrel to the end of the fake rotating mini gun. It makes no sense otherwise. ''(I compared pictures from the side of the L1-M1 guns and they are too short to have the long barrel Carbine underneath and obviously if they had the short pistol barrel length 960As then they would have had to build up an entire barrel extension system to elongate the overall length. )''

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:04, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== My Kimber Warrior ==

You have NO idea how many MONTHS of saving up it took me to get this damn thing and the ammo and the 3 extra mags. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
:I had to pick either this or the Springfield Operator. BOTH were just as expensive. Over $1,000 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

:I might shoot off all 3 mag full just to break them in and for satisfaction, but with the economy these days and the shortage of guns, and ammo and parts because of the Obama scare, I am going to fire this as less as possible. Would it surprise you that I plan to carry this around with me where ever I go?[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:32, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

:Well, I don't have a "Real" job yet, so yeah it did take me a long time. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:32, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, the feel is a lot heavier than a plain old 1911, that's the first thing I felt different when I carry it. As I said a moment ago, I haven't gotten time to shoot it yet, I only got a couple boxes of ammo. .45s are particularly expensive nowadays, but then again what isn't. I do however plan on either getting a surefire flashlight attachment or a grip laser [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

:Reloads do sound awesome, but if they keep misfiring and stove piping, then no thanks. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:00, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
::Sounds cool, the cheaper price that is. I wasn't expecting free ammo. But me still unfamiliar with a lot of things involving guns, I actually never knew you can reload spent brass with new bullets. I keep thinking the brass are just you fire and forget. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:19, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

== Indian Actor ==

I thought it would be easier for Indian viewers to find an Indian actor in a separate list. However if it is increasing complexity then it can be removed. I agree with you. Thanks. [[User:Ritwikbmca|ritwikbmca]] 16:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==Any old gun page will do!==
Cutaway is not the only one doing it. New members are starting to post gun pages on whatever gun they think is cool, regardless of whether they appeared in anything or not. I'm tempted to start giving them a deadline to list a film, television show, anime, VG in which this firearm appears ..... or else I am DELETING their page. I am also tempted to delete the pages (not the images but just the page) of those bizarre Cutaway experimental guns that don't appear in anything (Like the Siamese Tromix which is a ONE OFF experimental gun from some custom gun maker in the SouthEastern U.S.). to be fair I will also have to DELETE my own Browning Pro-9 page, since I don't think it has appeared in anything yet, even though the images are of blank adapted guns in active armorer inventory. Should I keep pages for guns that are (a) blank adapted and (b) already in active rental inventory of SOME armory? The chances of them appearing in a future project is far greater than these obscure foreign or experimental guns. I look forward to your opinion on this. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:15, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

==La France Calicos==
Hey Matt, Thanks on the Admin glade to be on board with the rest of you to try and improve IMFDB and clean up some pages. The Calicos were used on "Homeboys in Outer Space" and several other shows. I hope to review the rental history on them shortly. Might have the information up by the weekend. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!==
Et Tu Brute? Now you're posting foreign language german films! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! MPM2008

==Okay, you're the one who started all of this ;) ==
SB2296 deleted the PSL page and moved it onto the SVD page. My only problem with that is if we merge TOO many gun types into one page, people won't find them and be able to use the page for identification purposes. Like guns of the world, I like separating all the gun types, but you and I have polar opposite opinions regarding this (you merged MY zastava page onto the AK page, even though I was against it). It's just two different opinions, but I want to know how we can get some sort of consensus amongst the MODs regarding this so that we can have a set of rules for IMFDB. But I want to solidify the specs rather than continue to go through this conflict with people formatting pages in a way that I would not format. I will fully follow the directive of the group, but I'm tired of just having people do it 'their way' over my objections with no forum for arbitration. Thanks :) Do you agree with the deletion of the FPK/PSL page? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:25, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

==FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle Page==
Hey Matt, I changed the FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle page back to it original format and added info explaining that the weapon is based on the stamped receiver RPK and not the Dragunov. Some think that it's a SVD but it's not it's more like a Yugo .308 AK. So all in good now. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Zastava M70==
Actually the Zastava M70 is built on a RPK receiver, not an AK receiver, which is why I don't think it belongs in the AK lineage. PhoenixEnt changed the PSL back to the original format, since the PSL is built on the RPK receiver as well, and is not a direct descendant of the SVD. So the Yugo series of AK type rifles are not direct descendants of the AK47. My thought is, if someone chopped the barrel of an RPK to make a short RPK, would we suddenly classify it and merge it onto the AK page, rather than the RPK page? This is obviously not a super serious issue, but imfdb does seem to have inconsistent standards in regards to what gun pages should comprise. MPM2008

==M70==
According to the arguement posted, then all of the Valmet Rifles or Galil Rifles should be under the AK banner as well? They are 'rifles' and serve the role of rifle, even though their receivers are different than the direct lineage of the AK? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

==Galil & Valmet==
Actually I just mentioned that action because it seemed to be line with the line of thinking in your post. I am not FOR merging them into AK-47. In fact I am vehemently against it, but, as I said before, no one listens to me when it comes to IMFDB styles and protocols. ;) Now that we're on this contentious topic ;), what do you think about all those M16 variants the people are creating new pages for? The LWRC SRT rifle series for example. or Z-M LR 300? Now I am also against dumping all the variants of the M16 like the SR-25 or .308 guns into the M16 page, primarily because the pages are getting too gigantic and unwieldy. It's about user experience and I am not sure that behemoth pages that scroll down for ages is what people are looking for. I for one, HATE those blogs where the bloggers keep all their entries for months and months on the same page, thus looking for any one entry takes hours of scrolling to find it. Anyway, you now see where I get my strong anti-long page bias from ! :D Well, at least you have a break from your studies to jump back into the IMFDB fray! :D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

==The Defender's machine guns (modified FN MAGs)==
Hey Matt, This weapon is a M60 Light Machine Gun mounted upside down. Look at the barrel sticking through the screen the gas cylinder is on top. The third photo show the bag hanger and the top cover of the M60. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, I will check to on the ID for those unknown Sub Machine Guns during the week when I go back to the armory. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Weapons Page Layout==
Hey Matt, Had an idea for the weapons page layouts since they are get more cluttered as more info is added. What do you think about columns that had listing for Actors Name/Character Name/Production Name/ Year of Production. We had those types of columns in the motorsport wiki that I worked on for information just to clean up the pages. Let me know and I can set up one page nothing big so everyone can check it out. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, Motorsportpedia is down while they move over to a new server. But I can set up a page as I still have the layouts save on my PC and then screen capture and post it here so you can see it. Let me know and I do a trial run tonight. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Hey Matt, I made a test page with screencaps of the Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer with the new layout. The top is original format, Middle is all info in new layout, and Bottom is just Film Title and Year of Production. Let me know what you think. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, The dates are the easiest part on this can add them as the page is redone. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
::Hey Matt, I did not know if you wanted me to start on those layouts or wait until you told the other Admins. Let me know as the set up is done. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey Matt, If you would starting that page on the forum for me it would be great as I am heading out right now. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Hey Matt, Looked over at the Forum on the page you started. Very cool that you did that for me. Thanks. It seems that from the lukewarm response that they like it but could not be bothered with it as they will just continue to make it look like a 4 year old constructed the page. Sad that a Admin feels that way but it also lazy that they don't want to improve the way IMFDB is looked at by others. Hopefully we can do this layout and improve the way it looks. Thanks Again.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

Hey Matt, What I can do is layout on my PC first before I even post them. Then I will do a mass change on those pages. I will start with the most popular pages first and work my way down. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
[[Image:TestPgWeapons.jpg|thumb|none|800px|Layout Test Page]]

==Arggg, did a Frankgun Fix==
[[Image:Podbyrin9 2mmPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIXED in Photoshop Podbyrin 9.2mm pistol (merged a rounded Beretta 92S trigger guard onto the handgun to make it look more like the movie gun)....]]
I spoke to the original gun owner, and suggested a 'frankengun' fix in PS, and surprisingly, he said he 'thought it was cool'. He was intrigued to see what the pistol would look like with the 'correct trigger guard', so I took a photo of a Beretta 92SB and 'merged' the rounded trigger guard onto the Podbyrin. How does this look? I usually try to avoid doing a lot of photoshop on a gun pic, other than lightening shadows or darkening highlights or fixing scratches or (obscuring SNs). It's still not the screen used gun, but now it's closer to the real deal. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Seven Days ==

I actually didn't start that page, I just contributed to it. Feel free to add to it. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:35, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

::Yeah, gee thanks MT2008, I did 90% of the page and you ask ORCA1 if you can contribute to it! LOL. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:25, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

== AK-47 Page Edits ==

I removed -some- of the spacing since in some places it left what looked like excessively large blank areas that required more scrolling to get to the rest of the article. I was just trying to make it look more compact and fuller. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:33, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==RE: Revamping Matrix Reloaded==
The Desert Eagle screencaps were the most I believe so I never went over 8. That's pretty good for me. I tried to limit where I could, have no worries. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==
Since the news of David Carradine's death :( I was cruising around IMFDB and I noticed a nice touch to Charlton Heston's page. Someone put a photo of him, not a screenshot, in which it simply stated, "Charlton Heston: 1923 - 2008" I wanted to do something similar to Brandon Lee's page (1965-1993) :( , but I also thought that it would be nice (but completely optional) to put a DOB-DOD listing on actors who have passed away. I was going to do one for PhoenixEnt's page for Morris Ankrum the actor, I was going to put (1896-1964) but I figured I would check first. Also I thought it would be nice to know which of our famous actors have passed on. Thoughts anyone? I'm not going to do any sort of mass campaign to do so, but to know that no one else has objections would be nice. :) MPM2008

==You Video Game guys are missing my point completely==
I don't care any thing about what gun is appropriate in real life for a video game character. I seriously don't. :) I don't play Video Games. I work on movies :) I was just lamenting that IMFDB has to have dedicated gun pages to really obscure Russian weapons or experimental weapons because they appear in some video game SOMEWHERE. Talk about cluttering IMFDB with info. And I sure as hell can't get a good MPM photo of these guns, Arggggg they don't exist outside of some experimental arms room in RUSSIA!!!! ;) But they get a dedicated gun page because they DID appear in a Video Game. You know, in the old days, I would have booked a flight to Russia JUST to take a custom IMFDB photo of those guns................... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==Wilkinson Arms Linda Pistol==
Hey Matt, I have some photos of the Linda so I was going to make a page for it. But do you think that the Linda and the Terry should have their own page or combined? If so then I would add the J&R M-68 Carbine as well since Ray Wilkinson built that one in So. EL Monte in the same business complex as my parents Gun Company.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, Thanks for the words I am working on the photos hope to have them up by Sunday. I have to check on some background for the M68 Carbine and Wilkinson Pistols and Carbines to fill out the page. Also hope to have the first layout mods posted this weekend.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Making a documentary video about guns?==
Wow! That is so less work than taking photographs of guns! ..... not! ;) Also we would have to expend our own blanks $$ out of our own pockets and there is the time, editing etc. The $$ thing is a touchy subject. The SAG strike fucked us, big time. Now SAG has signed, but guess what? It's too late. Almost NO production for a YEAR and now because of the credit crunch, no one as any money to do anything. the investors are all pulling out. It's sad when SPIELBERG has to go to CHINA to get financing for his next movie. the number of project being filmed in California alone dropped 40%. At one time there were 40 productions each week. in the greater Los Angeles area (TV Shows, Feature films, Indie Films, TV Pilots, Commercials, etc.) The last time I even checked, I think about a month ago, it was THREE.

BLANKS: Our cost of blanks have historically been about 300% the cost of the real deal. Movie blanks are a highly customized item and the types of brass and powder formulas are specifically formulated for movies. There is no economy of scale like in real ammo. And real ammo is manufactured in the MILLIONS each year. Now it gets to the point that I don't blow off my own blanks unless they've been paid for by a production.

Again, the comment was aimed at people who haven't done a production. We run into that all the time, everyone from ABOVE the line to everyone BELOW the line in a production. The lay public has no idea what it takes (and how much it costs) for even a small production.

GUN RENTAL RATES: I'm too tired to even list off the costs, but the rule of thumb is usually 10% of full replacement costs for one week. Sometimes more. Most expensive guns never rent ten weeks of production in decades. Stembridge was lucky in that so many of their older guns (Western,WW2, WW1, etc) had already paid for themselves by the 1970s so all rentals were pure profit. I have guns which have NEVER rented since 1989. I have guns which have rented ONCE (in the lifetime of most of IMFDB's members). Anyway that's just historical tidbit for you, based on my own experiences, not everyones. :) MPM
::I fixed a typo that would have been confusing....

==Letters from Iwo Jima M1903A1 Sniper Rifles==
Hey Matt, Nice photos of the 1930A1 Sniper Rifles. I built those rifles for Windtalkers although they were never seen in the film. They are the only two that I know of in the industry and are own by Rock. I lost the photos of my build when my hard drive crashed a few years ago and now I just take new photos of the completed weapons to fill that empty space. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== About "Rock" Galotti ==
Funny, he did some of the stunts in [[Platoon]]. That is pretty cool i guess.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

==RE: OK, I need your help==
Hey Matt, Those are Daewoo K3 Light Machine Guns dressed as M249's. Back in the day not to long ago M249's were not that available. So two armories in LA used Daewoo K3's and dressed them up and I am sure that the Canadian armories followed suit. The K3's were cheaper than getting M249's at the time. Good eye on that most have never spotted them before. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, I will check on the one I know of here on Thursday. Let me know what other info you need on the K3's -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Re:Weapon pages==
I think we can do away with the italics with the new layout unless it really adds to the looks of the pages. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Payback Page ==

Thanks for the quick response. I completely agree with the change of page Payback who made Gunmaster. He has identified and corrected some of my mistakes making the page very interesting. The substitution with Screencaps of the Director's Cut version is very beautiful, the pictures are less dark, more large and clear. I just wanted to be advised before the change, that's all. However, no problem. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

==K3==
I can find out, but I don't know off hand. I have 4 M249s, CW as 12 M249s, so obviously they are available. I will ask specifically the next time I interact with an armorer who has a K3. MPM
:I will be going to the armory soon and will get a photo of the K3 and check when they started to use them. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
::I asked some questions about the K3's. The reason for them being mocked up was the fact that the armories could not get M249's at that time. Both large armories here in LA and the Canadian armories used then extensively for years. I did not have my camera but I will have a photo of them ready by the first of the week. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==WTF?==
On the Steyr AUG page, you give thanks to BullpupThai when I'm the one who actually revamped the page?!?!?! It took all day to revamp the tables and update the information. He only added the A3 photos and they're of variants that no one has seen in any movies. WTF? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:49, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:Hey Matt, No problem on the change to the Television layout. What did you think about the lines on the layout samples. I had GM45 like one style and [[Oliveira]] like another I just have not brought it up to the rest of the Admin's yet. Let me know as I have seen several other members start to change pages to the new layout- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 14:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==Template==
Thanks for the note. To the mods: Though my own preference is strongly towards chronological order, I can accede to the wishes of the majority. I do like the format of Title First, before actor. Please note all, in the [[Steyr AUG]] page that the title, then character, then actor template, dovetails nicely into the other genres (television) but also Anime and Video games. Since there is no Character in some and no Actor in Anime or Videgame, I think this order maintains the same look from Film all the way down to VG. Thanks and please look at the page to see what I was referring to. Thanks again. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:27, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Wilkinson Arms==
Hey Matt, I talked briefly with one of Ray Wilkinson's business partners and he told me that they sold some for use in the film industry in the late 60's early 70's. I have a interview with him hopefully this week and should be able to fill in some history and specs. for the weapons. They only made three of the G-77 Sub Machine Guns but some could have copied it for a show. I hope to have more info on this than is any where on the net. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Moving Desert Eagle==
Whoa there buddy! :) I don't think we should move the Desert Eagle to IMI Desert Eagle. It was designed by Magnum Research, but the gun was also manufactured by Saco Defense in Maine. Some of the guns I've used in the field were SACO guns and not IMI pistols. Most of the Mark XIX were not IMI but Saco guns. the ones I photographed from Cinema Weaponry just had new replacement slides on them, so the mfg was not even listed. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)]

==Your Grandfather's guns==
:You really sold the guns your Grandfather gave you? If I did that my Opa would whip my ass.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
==RE Goldeneye==
I appreciate it and I'll keep what you said in mind --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 01:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
==RE 1911==
Yeah, I think your right. too bad we have no stock images though --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:10, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

sorry im new on here im still trying to figure all of this out.. i understand now..
==Forum==
:You have a point, but I don't have an email-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 06:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

==Dillinger's Pistol==
I believe Dillinger was carrying a Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless when he was outside the theater (much like he did in real life). I was wondering where the Colt Pocket ''Hammer'' was used, which is a different gun. I remember when Dillinger tried to draw his pistol it was hammerless, so I never saw the Hammer Pocket pistol. And any info from the guys at ISS would be much appreciated :) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Glock Page==
I notice on the Glock page people keep changing the newer first and second generation guns to say 2nd and 3rd generation. I believe you pointed out new models (19 and up) are only in 1st and 2nd generation (as they made no three generations for those pistols), yet people continue to change them incorrectly. Am I wrong on something, or should we message others that they are wrong. Also, check out the SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series page and check out the format style I prefer, and am trying to sell people on as the norm. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Huh, that's confusing as hell. Personally I say the the Glock 17 and 18 have three generations, while from 19 and on only have two because they never made a first generation 19-39 pistol with the original 1st gen styling, they only made them with 2nd and 3rd gen styling, so it would make sense to only refer to them in 1st and 2nd gen. And besides, the new Glock format with the sandpaper type grips would either become the newer 3rd generation, or become the older 4th genertation depending. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==I'm back briefly==
Just dealing with a bunch of Indies who want guns... And as you well know, sometimes the production has no idea what they want ... and when they want it. Ugh! But I'm slammed with work so if you send me any messages, I apologize for not responding in a timely manner. best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:13, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Armorer page idea ==

Hey, I haven't checked the forums in awhile so I don't know if anyone's had this idea before, but I was wondering if we should set up a way of making pages for movie armorers or at least one page with the armorers and links to the movies they've done. I'm not sure how it would be set up, but I just wanted to consult with anyone else to see if this would be a good idea. I figured these guys do a ton of work and it'd be great to see who all's worked on what, etc. Again, if anyone's had this idea before just ignore this but I was just thinking it might be neat to honor these guys. Let me know what you think! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Alien vs. Predator: Requiem ==

Thanks for the revamp Matt, it looks even better now. And yeah, I noticed too that about my screenshots, do they all look like that? And by the way, did you get a new screencapping system? I noticed the names on your screencaps are different.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:I see what you mean, I too prefer screenshots to be named after the movie they go to, it makes it easier to know which movie a screencap goes to, plus it beats accidently overwriting images. About the Aspect Ratio, I'll have to mess around with Cyberlink a little, I don't know why they come out like that. It bugs me sometimes too since a screencap from a movie with a 1:85 aspect ratio comes out like a fullscreen image, while other people's video players have them actually look like widescreen images. Anyway, good work on the pages you recently worked on, it's nice to see your work again.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

==Happy Belated Birthday!==
Congrats, and I hope you figure out the problem with VLC and your Bluray player (I think they build them into the newest greatest laptops for a reason...). I've been trying to send you the 10-step guide but my damn computer froze 3/4ths of the way through me finishing the message. So I'm reattempting, check it out when you get a chance. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Point Break==
Crazy, I was going to pick up Point Break on DVD next time I went out, but with Bluray I think you kind of beat me there. Can't wait to see how the page looks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Hey Matt, I was wondering, do you know how to treat images for better clarity? Obviously bluray doesn't truly require it, but even bluray can look better if it's done properly.

[[Image:PBreak-00055.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is your original cap.]]

[[Image:PBreak-00055-edit.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is the image after I brightened it and high-pass sharpened it.]]

I'm not sure what picture editor you have, but if you have one close enough to mine I can tell you what to do. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I use Corel Paint Shop Pro. If you think your system is close enough to mine, I can send you screencaps on the Forums Private Message showing exactly what to do. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::I made a 10-step direction system using screencaps on my computer, so I'll send them to you in a private message and see what you can do. If it doesn't work, I could always edit the pictures for you and re-upload them. Hope this helps. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Not to embarass you or anything, but...==
His name actually is spelled ''Michael Bay.'' Not ''Bays.'' Just for future reference. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:12, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

==Austin Powers PPK/S==
Hi. I just looked at the Austin Powers pages and I noticed that you deleted the pictures of his pearl gripped PPK/S. Anyway, I was just wondering why you did that. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 01:52, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

== Re ==

Okay, no problem Matt, you always know what you're doing. Sorry about the double post comment By the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:51, 22 July 2009

Don't worry, I'm sure we'll get through it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

:Don't worry things will be fine. We will get through this. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 16:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
::"Get throught this"? What the Fuck is going on?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:32, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Because i swear alot. The word "fuck" can also be used to put emphasis on things. Such as above, the "fuck" makes it seem that i'm worried.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:I know. I try but it's hard when it just comes out of your mouth like that.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

==RE: SIG P220 page==
My bad, just don't leave the sections empty, it completely removes the box from the columns, which looks bad. I suppose I could just fill the notes with "none", since there is nothing to note. And in Harold & Kumar II, you could see in a lot of scenes his P226 had a funky barrel like a prop gun or airsoft. But in some scenes it looked normal. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==WTF?==
I just saw a chopped and converted HK94 (masquerading as an MP5) on the BBC show "Primevel" tonight. WTF? Why on earth would the British Armorers have such a thing? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:22, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

==Template Layout==
Hi Everyone, Now that I am back let's talk about the page layout template. On the forum we had one item brought up about the chronological order being reversed. Also another item was brought up about putting lies or boxing in the information. As admin it is up to us to police the site and make a decision that is agreed upon by the majority of admins and then implemented. Let's all go back to the [[Talk:Test Template Page]] and nail these last issues down. As we talk about it pages have been created and might need to be corrected so there is a standard look to all the gun and actor pages. Thanks for you input and help on the. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Little help please ==

Can you help ID this weapon? It looks like a Kalashnikov rifle but I'm not sure what kind.

[[Image:Sea P Rifle.png]]

[[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]] 18:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:It's a [[RPD]]. Is it just me or you don't know much about weapons, Gunner?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Re: The Desert Eagle ==

Thanks for the complement. GM45 cleaned the pic up pretty good. Glad the pic will be put to good use. That's not the only gun I own. I own a few others but better pics of the them are already done. But when I get time I'll take some snaps of them and put them on my personal page.-[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]

== XM177s in The Rock ==

Sorry for bothering you
Indeed, i am not quite agree with your statement that all the XM177 used in the film were installed with 10" barrel

[[Image:Vlcsnap-2009-08-02-02h29m10s22.png]]

I captured a picture to show the 11.5 barrel of a XM177E2,which the armor might want to build and to pretend the gun as.
Please Feel Free to check it out

[[Friendsever]] 02:56, 2 August 2009 (GTM+8)

==WTF? you in the habit of reading Gunmaster45's talk page?==
I thought 3913 (someone else wrote that it was a 3903, but I deleted it because there is no such gun), but it could be a 3906 with novak sights. It just looks alittle too big to be the stock 3913. Thoughts? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks! Guess you forgot these additions ;) ==
[[Image:Smith & Wesson Model 617.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|S&W Model 617]]
[[Image:Colt1911A1PreWar.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Colt M1911A1 Pre War Commercial Model]]
[[Image:ColtBisleySAA.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Colt Bisley SAA - 45 LC]]
[[Image:M1911-RAFIssue455.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|RAF issued M1911 in .455 Webley]]
[[Image:RugerLCP.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger LCP]]‎
[[Image:M1911vs.M1911A1.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Replacement for the M1911 comparison chart]]
[[Image:Browning-HP-P35.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Original FN P35 Pistol]]
[[Image:BrowningBuckmarkContour.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Browning Buckmark]]
[[Image:BersaSAThunder380.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Bersa Thunder 380]]
[[Image:WaltherP22CA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Walther P22CA 5" barrel with comp]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==MGC==
I don't have those variations. I will check with CW, but a lot of the old MGC guns are extinct. They've been broken and thrown in the trash heap years ago. Well photos of guns is the only thing I still do unmolested ;) Since no one listens to me regarding formats, people are dumping tons of extraneous screencaps on pages unabated, youngsters with only VG experience are running amok on the site; basically the site is a victim of it's own success. More and more irritating users will sign up and mess up pages. I've lost a lot of my enthusiasm, but I still contribute from time to time.

BTW: I am intent on deleting all frankengun pics from IMFDB. To be fair, I'll photograph a real gun that will represent what the Frankenguns were supposed to depict and replace them BEFORE I do so, but I don't want people thinking that we Photoshop create all our guns. That would negate all the trouble I went to, to get the real guns to photograph in the first place. So ultimately we'll have the same image, but of a real gun, and not a Photoshop montage. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:40, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==barb Wire guns==
I never said that the MGC guns were spec. They were obviously original MGC M16 (quasi SP1 classic model) that were modified with real A2 handguards and had the three prong flash hider cut off the barrel (it was cast as one piece) and the A1 birdcage attached. I mentioned that the 30 round magazines did not fit well in the MGC guns in [[Dragon Wars: D-War]] because they were probably real 30 rounders that were jammed into the undersized well. But the 30 rounders in [[Barb Wire]] fit a little better so they were probably 30 round magazines stolen from XM177 MGC guns (since MGC never sold replacement magazines, you had to steal from a whole gun). Just wanted to clear that up. :) No one uses the MGC guns anymore. All of the armories just use the nicer Classic Army or G&G or Tokyo Marui guns which didn't exist back then. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:04, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==RE: Glow not Blow==
Yeah. I figured it was just a little typing error, since the G and B are on top one another. BTW, excellent job with Underworld: Evolution, looks great. Check out the new wallpaper. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I don't know if I could fit that, but I'll see what I can do. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==UWE Boll!==
re: UWE, ''but I'm pretty sure they have the full-circle front sight hood'' Man, you DO need glasses. They are NOT full circle sight hoods, but the open ones. :) hahaha. that's why I discounted the Norinco, because they weren't enclosed hood front sights.... MPM

==AKs==
Well you didn't post THAT IMAGE on the UWE page! ;) That right AK DOES have an obviously chinese style closed hood. I just noted that some of the others did not. But then, I've used a dremel tool to grind down the Chinese hoods to simulate Russian style (but this was back in the 1980s, when there were just so many Chinese guns and not that many Poly Tech Legends or Maadis floating around. MPM

== Another Image ==

Matt, the image of the Flamethrower is still on the [[Soldier]] page:

[[Image:IMG 1411.JPG|thumb|none|400px|One of the actual flamethrowers used in ''Soldier'' (this image is an IMFDB exclusive)]]

Do you want this deleted as well?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Lois & Clark==
I'm going to be offline for 4 days as I'm busy on a vacation. I was thinking if you could do Lois and Clark(editing and fixing some for a start) while I'm gone. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
==Thing Thing Aena 2==
There's another page of a Thing Thing game. Many users say that this could be something else. I don't know what it is, but users are discussing it. - [[Special:Contributions/98.234.125.53|98.234.125.53]](Kenny99) 02:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Can you believe this guy? ==

Yournamehere thinks he can come to my page and change the format I prefer because he doesn't like it. How is my format not orderly. It's pissing me off. I mean look at my [[Black Lagoon]] Page. How is it better now than before when I had sections for which guns is which. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:00, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

:I'm just shrugging this aside. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:30, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

:Well I need some support to back me up. this guy just redid my entire page and it'll take me some time to undo what he did since I made some corrections of my own so I can't just go back and undo him removing my section by section titles. He's being a real ass by doing this and I'm just giving up about this guy. He's and 2 other guys here are just rude, likes to call people out and just downright too forceful on opinions. I mean, I like my page and he doesn't even ask me before he changed it. It's like someone came to clean up your room when it wasn't that messy. They rearranged your DVDs and bookshelf like it's theirs. That's how I feel about this. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:43, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

::Done, but this means, any changes that NEEDS to be done, it's on me now. So I got a lot of work to do on MY page.

== Re: Black Lagoon ==

I just didn't like the way it looked with sub-sections and sub-sub-sections (the ones that don't have the section title underline, just bolded), but I looked at the way the Miami Vice page was constructed and saw that format had the guns organized by type AND looked like the other pages. I was going to redo it like that, along with the necessary grammar, link and screenshot overhaul.

As far as discussing it with Excalibur, I acknowledge that he built the page, which is very large, but if you'd check the mail call thread on the forum, I've stated my point with regard to why I'm fixing it up, and he hasn't said much more than "no I don't want you to change the page because I like what I did and it's mine and I did it", and that was amongst quite a bit of babble. In other words, discussing it with him rationally is near impossible. Furthermore, I don't think that "ownership" of a page by one party is enough to stop someone from fixing a page if it clearly needs some editing. We need to get past this "mine is mine" idea and understand that we need uniformity above all else in order to make the site look professional. We have to swallow our pride and tear down what's old and worn to rebuild it in a better image.

Anyhow, I'm getting a little preachy, so I'll end this segment of the discussion here. For the record, though, I can't edit the page any further anyhow because someone locked it. I don't know if it was you, or who did it/has the capability to lock, but I'd like to proceed with my work if that's okay.

::Ok, problem resolved between me and YNH so we're cool [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Blue Streak ==

I own the Standard DVD. I've actually finished preparing the caps I was going to use, but Blu ray would look better. If you want to take over instead, let me know. I was getting ready to screencap Menace II Society alongside this one, so I could do that instead. - [[User:Uzi870|Uzi870]] 03:48 August 13 2009 UTC

==User 67.183.66.44==
I noticed that you admonished this anonymous user for an edit he kept on changing and was wrong. I've locked him out of at least two pages because he (a) dumps gun pics on the page and doesn't bother the simplest of re-formatting to make the page not look like crap and (b) makes some gun mistakes (which normally isn't that big of a deal) but he is relentless and tireless and continuously makes changes that OTHER people have to fix. I put a 'registered users only' lock when he kept on putting the wrong gun pic that I deleted, over and over and over again. Rockwolfe has had to admonish him (and fix) details on a page twice. Argh. Well he's not a vandal, nor a heckler or profane hysterical type. He just quietly and anonymously makes tons of edits, and edits and edits.... Thoughts? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ban their punk ass!-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 06:19, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, I had to clean up ''The Iron Giant'' after he right-aligned a bunch of the images and added a lot of completely superfluous gun history to the real weapon pics. It's not like he can't have seen that the way he's doing it isn't the way articles are supposed to be formatted, given almost all his changes are later fixed, so he's either lazy, ''incredibly'' stupid, or enjoys seeing other people run around after him. I'd suggest at least a short ban to get his attention, since he looks like if he tried working with us rather than in spite of us he could be a good contributor. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 06:33, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

==Anonymous users==
Who are all these anonymous users working on Jericho? Is one of them you being too lazy to log in? ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:54, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

==Lois and Clark==
Someone put and stated that a Glock 17 is in Lois and Clark. I'm not sure which version came,but are the characters that use the Glock 17 is a Generation 1? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 16:31, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

==Re:re Lois and Clark==
I own the dvds of Lois and Clark. It's pretty much more clearer than YouTube videos since that mine's old. I screencaped most of the page as I can. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 23:10, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

==Zurak 47==
Zurak 47 said this on Lois and Clark about the S&W 3913 "Ladysmith":
The slide isn't marked "Lady Smith", which would make it a '''3913 NL''', which stands for not-ladysmith or so the rumor goes. It was made for men who wanted to carry the gun but not be marked sissy pistol. It's the exact same gun, just different marking. --[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 15:37, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I might need some help. Also I need you to help correct Lois and Clark to see if they are actually the right guns. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 18:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
*Lex doen't really checks it though because it's a flashback. It's not blurry. The tv show's old. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 18:16, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
*Thanks though. I posted some more screenshots for people to look at. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

==Gun ID Help needed==
Any idea what this pistol is? I think it may be a Star variant, but I have no idea. MPM2008

[[Image:VLM-SilverHandgunFinal06a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:VLM-SilverHandgunFinal04a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:VLM-SilverGunJeep02a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|]]

==RE X2==
Thanks, I'll either add them into the Miscellaneous or one of them P90 section. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:50, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::From Def Con 5 'eh, I better credit them to be on the safe side. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 23:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

==Wow talk about psychic==
You talked about the Rossi overland in less than 60 seconds AFTER I uploaded it. Should I overwrite the jacked LMO image? I cleaned the LMO image up a bit, but as you can tell, mine is is much better condition ;) LOL. But the jacked one is a screen used gun. The MP7A1 is mine. :) I've picked up a bunch of stuff that I have NOT had time to photograph yet. I've been catching jacked images off the web for things that are just plain stupid. Like I found the original website where that image of the customized 870 came from.
[[Image:Remington870Pstlgrip.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 with a Pachmayr checkered black rubber pistol grip and slide handle.]]
This pic is from a custom gun set that was built for the Waco Police department and is a one off. It doesn't appear in movies and yet an IMFDB member uploads the pic. Every time I put up an original pic, there are a dozen jacked images flowing into IMFDB. I don't mind if they are place holders for something we don't have yet, but it bugs me when we're still seeing jacked images in addition to the legal licensed ones I shot for the site. ARgh. Anyway, good to hear from you :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:53, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

==Terrorist supporters==
Hey MT,
As far as those people who for some idiotic reason support terrorists groups on this site like the assholes who were editing ''[[Patriot Games]]''. Personally I would warn them once and them kick and ban them. I've had friends survive terrorist attacks and as far as the IRA goes... I have ancestors who were born and raised in the Dublin area and the IRA are just a bunch of cowardly bank robbing, drug dealing, terrorists. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 17:11, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I think I should clear something up, I don't support the IRA or their action. Mearly that understand ''why'' they were fighting against the British. There is a difference. --[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 18:54, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== RE S&W 699 in Miami Vice ==

I had originally though it was an 659 when I put it up. That's what Zeito ([[John Deil]]) uses. I think "Rafa" or "Gunman69 spotted it. But by all means, look over the page. The more eyes the better. There is bound to be a mistake or two in there. I still can't believe we passed [[Mail Call]]. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:31, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

== Is Seven Days on the air again? ==

I noticed you uploaded a lot of screencaps to Seven Days off of Spike TV and was wondering if they are reairing it again? I checked there website but it kept glitching when I checked the schedule section.

[[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]]

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==RE Hulk==
What in particular doesn't meet the standards(don't worry I'm not trying to be smart). If you are refering to the "bigass gun" comment on the m249 para/m203 that is not my doing. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 20:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
==airsoft==
I don't like, Tokyo Marui that much. But I have handled a 1911 , a double barreled shotgun, an M1 Garand, M4A1 and proudly the P220 and USP compact .357 sig.
==Sig 228==
The one on the [[Negotiator]], i think it is a 228 because it has a shorter barrel, but i can't tell exactly since there is a tactical flashlight and makes me unable to see the trigger guard, but I am still really young to be interested in guns!!( I am under 18! even under 15!) and its strange that the 228 has no markings on it. And the outer barrel shape of the P228 is quite different so, once again, sorry for my rude edits.
==Recent Weapon Articles==
Listen, I have not uploaded the last articles for no reason becouse they were used in particular movies/video games. I have thorougly read your policy on uploading exotic Trial/Research weaponry and have followed it since you last told me.
[[User:Cutaway]]
==Sorry about my edits.==
Sorry, I am really sorry, I am new to this website.
==Norinco Type 54/questionable conversation==
'''Cool, I have a Type 54. Frame mounted safety, 9mm clearly marked Norinco (will take pictures if you wany). I may have missed some SKSs in Platoon, feel free to add them to the page. I hope you guys don't see me as that guy you always have to correct. His use of the word "especially" makes it sound like I fucked up major and it needs your help big time. No biggy, just wondering. Let me know bout the Type 54. (It was found by a friend of my dad's, hidden in a construction site, so he may say no since it could be illegal but it should be okay).'''
'''P.S: I could have sworn they made a MAC-9 model, but I'm assuming you'd know more. Sorry if I'm wrong''' -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]

::'''He okayed it, I'll photo edit them to make them Semi-professional looking.
:'''Sorry I haven't got the pictures done yet, I've been pretty busy. Expect them some time this week.'''-GM
===Back for a bit===
''Nice to see you're back on the site! Hope you've seen some of GunMaster45's recent work (especially on Heartbreak Ridge and Platoon.) Anyway, I'm curious...do you by chance have a Chinese Type 54 copy of a Tokarev in your company's inventory? I ask only because I've seen those in quite a few movies, and I figure we should have a picture of one for this site. Also, I thought that only Chinese Tokarevs have the frame-mounted safety? I have little experience with them, but I thought I remembered reading that...please educate me if I'm wrong! ''

Yes, GunMaster45 did good work on the [[Heartbreak Ridge]] page. He put on screen caps proving that there were slab side M16s as well as A1s, so that I didn't have to do it. :) I still think that some of the screen shots he attributed to Chinese AKs in [[Platoon]] are in fact SKS rifles. But I will have to do a detailed scan of Platoon to verify that the rifles that I think are SKS rifles are indeed SKSs. Hope he doesn't get annoyed, but I noted some errors in the [[MAC-10]] page. I will also be posting pics of the MAC-10 in 9mm and also closeups of the Sten vs MAC-10/9 mags to clarify my remarks. But I will correct ANY error that I see, and of course, I tend to get a little testy when MY stuff is deleted or changed ... hahahaha. I just get high strung because I deal with crazy people every day. I'm in a bad mood now because JOSH BROLIN, you know, that oscar nominated actor dude, just fucked up one of my handguns. The trigger guard is completely bent. I mean, how the hell do you bend a trigger guard of a Police Chief Special? unless you ran over it with a truck? It's F**king amazing. I can't believe how actors or (non gun wrangler) prop persons can completely screw up GUNS in a few minutes more than the abuse of a real shooter over the span of years... And they look at me like I'm an idiot when I say "HEY!? what the hell did you do to MY gun?!?!" Sorry, gotta deal with crap every day, from folks who don't know squat about guns AND they abuse me as well ! hahahaha. Anyway, I wish I could take you to the set for just ONE day, to see the crap I gotta deal with. On another note, I am trying to get to the Battlestar Galactica set before they tear it all down. :) I will just be a visitor since it's in Canada and I'm not an authorized armorer in that country.

I don't have a Chinese Tokarev, I will try to find someone who does. Again, I hope I don't seem obnoxious, but I own 99% of these guns and have decades of experience with them. gotta apologize in advance ...hahaha ... there is always a bit of a knee jerk reaction that I get when I see info coming from any source (and that means all posters) that doesn't own or handle the firearms in question, and I have to do my best to quell that knee jerk response :) But I can always run to the gun safe, pull out the gun in question and take pictures of them. I got pics of some of the MATRIX guns so I will try to post them.

===[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]===
I figured that it was something to do with the foreign exchange. I had an assumption it was similair to how the Glocks are in generations, 1s being the oldest ones with the least new feattures, 2s being slightly better, and 3s being the newest. I've also seen the R models with the tactical rails and moaybe that is a 3rd gen variation as well.

It was only a thought that they could be like Glocks as that was my best guess. We should pobably find whoever labeled it P220-1 and ask him why he did that. With Glocks, the generations labeling is very simple.(I'l explain since I've tried very hard to remember all the Glocks and facts.)

* 1st Generation: The original models first started in production in 1983. They had a flat nose at the end of the frame, a flat handle, no decocking safety, and I believe no white night outlined sights. They had magazines built to swell when fully loaded so when in the gun, they would'nt drop out if the mag release was pressed accidentally. That is why they have thumb wells on the bottom of the grip, so you can pull it out with ease. I own a Glock 17 1st genration from 1986 and it was one of the 300th built. It has an ugly set of night sights(probably added much later) and they are adjustable. The mag swells when I put it in the gun loaded but falls out with ease when unloaded. It's a nice gun but I'd rather have a 3rd gen with original sights.
*2nd Generations.: Started in the 1990, they built Glocks with a slightly more curved frame nose, finger stepping and cut notches in the back of the grip. They dropped the swelling mag idea and made mags you could drop straight out of the gun for a quick tactical reload.
*3rd Generations: Started in 2000, they added tactical rails to the frame nose, finger notches for a better grip still(as if stepping wasn't enough?) and a thumb groove.

Now that the mags don't swell anymore, they make plugs to close up those thumb wells which makes sense since getting mud or other crap in there would be annoying to clean out.

As for SIG-Sauers, I've held one a long time ago and other than what I read and see, my experiance with them is poor. I'll have to go and buy a P220 and a P226 and see how they work. My dad has this encyclepedia of guns with every models of all guns made so I'll flip through that sometime. It stops at 2004 so he needs a new book.

I'll add this here because I need to tell someone. I added a beautiful stainless compensator to my M1911A1 and it is great. To install it, we had to ground down the spring cover so it would fit the comp. properly, as the guy I bought it from on Ebay says it fits all 1911s but it was built for ones with guide rods. Still got it to work well. I'll upload pictures very, very soon. The gun needs to be reblued as the slide is a WWII A1 slide and the frame is a M1911 original WWI frame from 1913. I will soon add 3 dot night sights, a stainless long type 3 holed trigger and maybe some hogue finger groove grips(but the orinal 1913 wood grips might just stay). The mainspring housing has grooves in it so it can accept a wooden stock, which I have, along with the 16in barrel, so it can all be legal and friendly. As soon as you respond, I'll post the pic here for you.

Err, maybe not, the camera isn't working right. I'll try it tommorow I guess.

Thanks for correcting the [[The Rock]] page, I was up til 7:00am screencapping and uploading the movie and my brain wasn't to full capacity. I noticed things like Goodspeeds Beretta had a somewhat smaller barrel and I was ''way'' too tired to find a stock picture for every gun so thanks for finding all of them. Finding good screenshots isn't easy. They used Berettas and Commandos so much in the movie I had over 20 screens each, so I had to drop a few. As for the Beretta 92SB, you'd think I'd notice as I'm the one who made the column of the Beretta page for it. I was tired and so distracted by the grips, I missed the trigger guard and inproperly classified it. But as long as your around to clean up after me, all should be fine. You clearly know more about the Colt Commando than me, that's for sure.

With screencapping the process is very aggravating. I play the DVD in my computer's player. I find the guns based on my memory of the best shots in the movie. I press "P" which captures the shot as a screenshot. I save it. Now after finding maybe 50+ screencaps for the whole movie, I go to my photoshop editor. I take every picture and convert the file from a BMP to a JPG. If the movie is widescreen, I crop out the black bars.(although I just started doing this.) Then I upload every single picture to the site and build the pages and links. I wish I got payed to do it, it's really very time consuming. But it is worth it for the knowledge of other people, right? [[Last Action Hero]] was the worst. I had over 100+ screens and there were 33 guns in that movie and I put them all in. The Funeral section was the hardest part as over 100 people pulled out guns and I identified what I could. The screens for that movie came out well, but the DVd's quality was about VHS and it looked terrible. Hopefully it was worth it though. -[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==A pic and an update==
Hey there. Got a few minutes. When I get a few minutes, I will be changing the several pages where we explore the different natures of guns (the US Marshals page , the M16 page and the Sahara Page). I will be clarifying the SP1 Sporter to a Colt Sporter Carbine, since I've seen both the version you posted (and the ones I have access to are actually still marked M16A1, so they were converted with a sporter TOP receiver after the fact. I am also going to take another pic of a Colt 733 that's actually marked Colt 733. My previous 733 pic turned out to be a conversion of an M16 receiver to a 733 looking gun. I am also cleaning up the ''[[Sahara]]'' page since I asked a few armorer/experts locally and they all think it's the foreign equivalent of the Romanian WASR-3 AK gun that we imported into this country. I don't know what the foreign countries called their version, but the best I can do is list it as the closest version that's verifiable in this country.

Here's a pic for you. Why am I grumpy sometimes? cuz, I am STILL looking at a rack of 24 AKMs that need cleaning. I still have to clean 17 AR-15 rifles. And the vault has all the stuff that needs either a major cleaning/refinishing or fixing. The tagged ones need replacement parts.

Now here's a pop quiz. Can you ID any of the guns in my 'to do list' vault? ;) Let me know if you can ID any of them. LOL!
[[Image:FixerVault.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|click on the image for a bigger pic.]]

==Long barreled AKs==
Wow! You did it. Amazing. No, I don't know what the hell that AK is. I've never seen an underfolder Long barreled AK for sale in the U.S. So it must be an Australian/Canadian thing. I guess that's a mystery we will have to bug the foreign armorers about. Wasn't there a Canadian armorer here on IMFDB a while ago? I don't remember well. Anyway, I also hope you don't think I was too harsh re: the HEAT updates. The vast majority of IMFDB users seem to be guys who are too young to buy a handgun, and some are too young to have a driver's license. Anyway I gotta take a break and get back to some movie sets here. :) I will try to get pics of the more famous guns when I can. But my contributions will drop down until I get some more free days. Thanks again. MPM2008

==Re: Your Articles==
I completly understand what you mean. I'll do my best to add guns to the pages from now on. Like you said, it's a pain in the ass when there is over 30 guns but I'll do it from now on. I'lve just finished screencapping Eraser but I might wait till tommorow to upload it, its been a long day, perhaps tonight. I'll make sure to add the pictures on that one. I assume there's about 20 or so guns. Thanks for pointing that out. By the way, what is the language rules for this site, because I wrote the "F" word on the [[Heartbreak Ridge]] page and I'm not sure that's allowed. The question is right under the picture in the M16 section. I'll do my best to be more considerate to editors like you. My main goal is to make a page flawless and immune to your corrections, but so far no dice. (Although, I'm unaware whether or not you checked the [[Last Action Hero]] page because it had no correction notes. Did I do it? - [[USer:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==re:Sahara==
''It's kinda strange, though...I wouldn't have figured British armorers would use civilian AK variants that were essentially geared towards the U.S. firearms market.''

re: British armorers, I've never met Sascha Robey. All I know is that Robey did the guns for the American TV Miniseries "The path to 9/11" but only the sequences shot in Morocco.

A lot of armorers are just the 'licensed experts' on the set. They subrent their guns from large armories. That's why I don't have screen credit for many majors I worked on, since I wasn't the on set armorer, I just rented them the guns (like any vendor) and we only rent to armorers (''aka weapons wranglers'') that we know and trust. I think Robey got the guns from Bapty's movie armory of London (just an educated guess).

When I was going to school at Cambridge University (a long time ago) I did get to visit Bapty's Armory (got to see a lot of the guns used in all those movies shot at all those BIG British Studio stages - like the 007 movies). Well the Romak 223 is the import name for the 'castrated' gun that our lovely BATFE allows to be imported. The romanians made a bunch of identical guns for sale to other countries where civilians can own semiautomatic rifles. I noticed that Zahn's gun had (a) a threaded front end of the barrel and (b) a bayonet lug, which usually imported guns after 1990 had to have removed. So it's probably a Romanian export gun that the British armorers picked up that has not been modified to be imported into the U.S. Sigh.... to be able to get such unaltered guns again. Now we have a bunch of US makers upgrading and making their own AKs, but I like the 'appeal' of getting stuff that's really FOREIGN and foreign built in a factory in a far off land. Even though the lowly British law abiding citizen can't own Squat, their movie armorers can get almost anything they need. UNLIKE the U.S. (especially California) which makes it more difficult to be a movie armorer every year.

BTW: I uploaded a detail shot of the Type 84 with the features I was talking about. I hope it helps.

best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Sahara==
Thanks for the help on the typo with the Norinco Type 56-1. As you probably know by the time stamps I edited that at 2:00 am PST and was pretty tired. Thanks for catching stuff like that.

But Zahn's gun is not the Type 84 despite the fact that the gas tube has vent holes like the Type 65/84 guns. The Type 84 is a deep blued finish, this gun has the semi gloss black paint finish of European AKs, the Magazine is NOT a Type 84 (not even close), but it does resemble the newer Romanian Romak 223 magazines (thus my question), and the front sight is an open top European AKM style, not the hooded .75" spaced Type 84 Front sight and finally the gas block is missing a notch that the Type 84 has and it looks lke the front sight sling is attached to the front of the handguards (AKM) and not on the gas block (Type 84). '''I looked at a Type 84 before I posted the pics, so I am sure that it is NOT a type 84''', there are too many differences that an armorer just wouldn't do (like repainting a blued gun or replacing the front sight or using a magazine that I am not sure would even fit in the magazine well). In fact if they did replace the Type 84 front sight block with an AKM sight, you would be able to see the notch in the top of the barrel of the second pin for the wider front sight. It would be visible. The smaller AKM sight doesn't cover it on the barrel. So again I will try to figure out what type of AK it is. Since Sahara is a newer movie it would well be a recent US built or US part upgraded imported AK rifle.

ON another note:

So what do you think of the screen caps? I purposely kept the Zahn pics big temporarily so the details of the gun could be seen. But i've noticed that whenever I work hard on a largely ignored page, THEN people start tweaking it, after I've put in hours working on it and before I'm finished :) what's up with that? Just the way things work I guess. :)

(But YOUR input is always welcome. I haven't shot any new gun pics yet. I usually wait until I have several dozen items to photograph before I go through the trouble of setting up a white background). Best regards
MPM2008

== Thanks for the help ==

Thanks for helping out on some of my articles, specifically ''[[The Siege]]'' and ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]''. I just recently got the ability to take screenshots from DVD's on my computer, but don't have either of those. Keep up the good work. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

== Guns in ''The Siege'' ==

You actually got a picture of the [[Browning M2]] in one of your [[M60 machine gun|M60]] screenshots, namely the one where it's being fired during the Redhook chop shop scene. As for the [[M203 grenade launcher|M203]], look closely at one of the soldiers keeping the press mob out of the stadium. Also, don't forget the [[Heckler & Koch MP5|H&K MP5]]'s during the bus hijacking/bombing scene. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:23, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

:: Here's the screenshot in question; the barrel is definitely too long to be a [[Mk 19 grenade launcher]]. Note that it also lacks the muzzle brake as well.

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[[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

== Good to have you back. :) ==

Backups are automatic and daily now - 4 am every day and automatically uploaded to seperate servers for archival. :)

You can't merge a page - but you can copy all the content from one to another and then drop a line to an admin to redirect the old page to the new one. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I've redirected the pages you requested. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 14:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

==hello==
Hi there. Just thought I'd seek to clarify the Red Dawn discussion, per your suggestion.

The MISR may have been the Egyptian's name for the gun in their factories overseas (several books refer to it, Clinton Ezell's book mentions it in 1986), but my point was that the Egyptians never marked or called their export gun to the U.S. - the MISR. In fact the only MISR guns that were legally imported into the U.S. (marked MISR) were after 1990 and they were 'post ban' guns, hastily hand 'etched' with the words "MISR" on the trunion.

I was probably nit picking since I don't know if alot of people really cared which import version was used in what movie. I wouldn't really care, BUT ... when people say MISR, everyone here in the states, automatically thinks of the post 1990 thumbhole monstrosities, not the better crafted ARMs of the early 1980s. I know for a fact that Syd Stembridge (who worked on Red Dawn and I spoke to about it) scoffed and thought of the crappy 'post ban MISR rifles' when I mentioned it to him. He said "Nope, we used ARMs not MISRs". So even he was thinking about the MISR imported gun. Hmmmmm.

Does it matter? I don't know. I'm tempted to edit out the discussion entirely, but I'm not sure how. Perhaps a note addressing what the imported versions actually had stamped on them (and had written in their owners manuals). What do you think?

A little bit of my background: :)

I was buying Maadi rifles back in 1983 (before Red Dawn came out). Thus I remember what they were called at the time. At no time had I ever seen the rifles referred to a MISR back in 1984 or earlier. Sales brochures, invoices, company documentation. That's really the only reason I was convinced that Maadi did not ship guns to US under that name.

I own nearly every variant of AK imported into this country prior to 1999. That includes ARMs, RPLs, MISRs, AKS-47, Type 84s, Type 56 Sporters, MAK-90s, SA-85s, Yugo M76s, etc. etc.

Any way. You've done a GREAT job updating and posting things. I don't want to give the impression that I don't realize that you're a super contributor.

Any way, keep up the fantastic work. :) and looking forward to your thoughts re: the re-edit of the page.

best regards
'''MoviePropMaster2008'''

==I am re-editing Red Dawn==
It just hit me. I can cut out all my rantings and just put in a note, that the MISR rifle is not referring to the post ban imported version call the 'MISR' and was imported under the name ARM. If that's okay, I'll cut out all the stuff under your original paragraph. Thanks. MoviePropMaster2008

==Type 84==
No problem. I will be happy to hunt down the Type 84 (the vault is big and kinda a pain to go through) ;) . I converted a bunch to AK74 though (i.e. put on the imported Russian parts and gas tubes, front sights, etc. to make them 'look' like AK74s. But I might have one left that is not all messed up. I don't believe that I have any left that retain the original Chinese 'fully enclosed' sight hood any more, unfortunately. Will this do? I can also put the original factory wood back on for the photo. Do you want it in original factory configuration? I can also put it into the SAME config as any of the movie or projects you want it for (i.e. put hungarian Blonde wood on them, etc.). Just let me know. It might take some time, though. I have to set up the photographic white table top setup all over again and will probably wait until I have a bunch of guns to photograph before I do it again. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== ''Incredible Hulk'' Grenade Launchers ==

I was under the impression the multi-shot grenade launchers in ''[[The Incredible Hulk (2008)|The Incredible Hulk]]'' were some sort of [[Milkor MGL]] derivative, like the M32? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

== My two cents on the Hulk Launchers ==
It looks like the back end of a Def tech 37mm launcher but the front end of a M32. Also the cylinder (and rotator mechanism) doesn't look like anything out there. It's too short to be the DEFTECH but the rotator gear is in the '''back''', not the '''front''', like it should be on the M32. The Milkors have a 'pop up' back end and the style of the buttstock looks completely different. I think it's a "Frankenstein gun" - perhaps the prop dept. took several Deftech 37mm launchers and chopped and styled them to resemble the M32. Check out the comparison pic and let me know what you think. :) Best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008|]] (P.S. - I don't hang out with the armorers in Canada being that we never cross paths. I wish I could so that I could ask them).

[[Image:Hulk-Launcher-Comparison1.jpg]]

I'll send you a pic of that very launcher from the shop.

==Your CZ99 pic==
I cleaned up your CZ99 pic in Photoshop. It's the same pic, but color corrected. Can I repost it? Thanks. [[user:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Editing Dogs of War==
I am thinking of doing some more updates on Dogs of War, hope you don't mind. ;) GOOD CALL! on the "imitation" Uzis in "Raw Deal" and "Stripes". In Stripes I thought you were talking about "Winger" (Bill Murray) but he was holding an unadorned MAC-10, but you were right, it was Joe Flaherty as the Czech border guard who had the "uzi cover" on the MAC-10. You have an eagle eye! Most people would have missed that one! Those guns were 'conversions' made by Special Effects Unlimited, Inc. in the 1970s. The company did mostly pyrotechnics (Stembridge, Ellis Mercantile and ISS were the kings of 'just guns' back then) and in the movie Dogs of War, they simply didn't have enough real Uzis. (In the 1970s it was pretty hard to get real uzis, IMI just wasn't importing them in big numbers. The import explosion came during the 1980s. Movies like Uncommon Valor, Red Dawn, Rambo, Commando, Death Wish 2-5, etc. all fueled an "action movie flood" that also included all of the really crappy GOLAN&GLOBUS movies like the post apocalyptic movies or the Chuck Norris Movies. Special Effects Unlimited went away in the early 1980s. When I got into the biz, there were about 30 movie gun rental houses and hundreds of trained wranglers in California. Now there are about five rental houses, with less than a dozen independent wranglers. Thanks to the draconian gun control that California shoves down our throat every year. No wonder the movies are all filming in Canada or Australia. Their armorers don't have the BS that we have to deal with. :(

One of the interesting things is the 'work arounds' that movie armorers do. We don't have access to every gun or destructive device that comes down the pipe in the real world. A lot of times the stuff just isn't available when a movie is being made, so we have to 'fake it'. I remember having to 'fake' the Steyr TMP out of a Cobray M11 because the TMP had just come out and the film's director 'just had to have it', but it wasn't being imported into this country yet. I had a model builder mold a dummy and then cast it as two halves of a clamshel mold and screwed it on to the M11. hahahaha.

You and some of the other guys have done a great job on that page!!! I love the screen caps, if I knew how, I'd do it too :D I don't know if my 'overabundance of information' on the background of a movie is either 'wanted' or 'necessary'. Feel free to edit if my info seems irrelevant, but I always try to 'keep it short' :) I think I can photograph some of the actual guns from DOGS of War, unfortunately they've been refinished, some have been altered. I'll drop a note when I get to take the pics and post them. :)

[[UserId#MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Raw Deal page and other thoughts==
You have to put up the Raw Deal page(!!) I was going to do it, but you have all the cool screencaps! :)

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Note that from this angle, the barrel is obviously a thin metal tube (just enough to extend the MAC-10 barrel). It's not thick enough to be a 9mm or .45 acp barrel. Great screencap! :) BTW: those were 9mm MAC-10s not the .45 acp MAC-10s. The nines were easier to blank adapt, and the blanks had that nice hot white flash in front. They look identical, except for the markings on the receiver.

I'm holding off putting the AKM shot in the Red Dawn Page. I'm still looking for one with an original Laminated buttstock. I'm positive I can take a pic of an 'undamaged' one. Thanks again for your input. :) It's been a little slow in the biz, but next week I might be getting some gigs, and in July I'm traveling on some projects so I will be gone. best regards [[UserId#MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==Type 56==

(Warning: this is from my own recollection and not official in any way) :)

Hmmm. it's a tough one. Since there is no 'official' designation it's hard to figure. And what always throws me is the 'official name' of the gun around the world and the 'official imported' name of the gun when it was sold here in the United States. Since this is a 'guns in the movies' site, I usually throw out the book on the '' 'official international nomenclature of the guns as used by foreign armies' '' and noting what the guns were called when movie weapons armorers were bringing them to the movie set. But the trend on the site, so far, has been to list the guns as what it's supposed to be representing (like calling obvious AR-15s, "M16s") in the real world. I just like to have some sort of footnote as to what weapons were actually used and what they were really called. :)

I've always regarded the 56 as a 47 offshoot. I don't think the other armorers have given it much thought, but I know that they'll always refer back to the AK47, not the AKM when anyone asks them what the Type 56 is based on.

'''I'll list my criterion and let me know what you think. '''

''Now we all know that the Chinese barrels are slightly different in diameter to all the European barrels but for the most part, the Chinese Type 56 parts are clones of the 47 not the AKM.''

1) The Chinese started their Type 56 copy with milled receivers. Around the 1960s the Soviets changed to stamped receivers in the 'modernized' AKM. The Chinese thought that was a good idea, and began production with stamped receivers, but '''everything''' else remained the same.

:(a) the front sight (.75" versus .5" width for the AKM)
:(b) the gas block (the angle AND the fact that it is not "notched" for gas release like the AKM)
:(c) the Gas tube (the AK47s have vent holes, the AKMs do not)
:(d) the Gas tubes are NOT interchangeable between the AKM and the AK47/Type 56 (I've tried, the angle of the back of the gas tube is different)
:(e) the pin placement in the receiver itself (the AK47 and the AKM have different pin placements)
:(f) the smooth versus ribbed dust cover
:(g) the wood furniture (the AK47 & Type 56 have smooth side crate wood - the AKM has bulged grip laminated - the buttstocks have a different comb and are different types of wood)
:(h) other than the wood for the gas tube and the pistol grip, the wood forearm and buttstock are '''NOT interchangeable''' between the AK47/56 and the AKM - you need to 'fit' the wood with a rasp and file.
:(i) in the underfolder stock versions the stocks of the Type 56 & AK47 are interchangeable, you need to modify them slightly to fit the AKM underfolder. Also the Underfolder 'arms' of the AK47/56 are smooth, the AKM underfolder arms are 'ribbed'.
:(j) the pistol grips for the 47/56 were wooden with a metal border near the receiver, the AKMs were all composite or plastic grips. This doesn't take into account the dealers or importers who may have swapped grips on their own, I'm just talking about the way they were exported off the factory floor.
:(k) I don't know if this is official or not, but I've personally tried to swap the bolts from AK47s/Type 56s and AKMs and the AKMs 'stick' when put into the 47/56 guns. The gun doesn't cycle ''(and it's probably not all that safe 'headspace' wise (hahaha), but it's a lot safer when all you're shooting is blanks.....)''. It could be the bolt carrier and piston assembly, but I've noticed that as well.

This is only based on my personal experience, but I'll bet that no one else on the board is as dopey as me and has tried to swap parts between an AKM and a Type 56 and wondered what went wrong ;) hahaha I DO know that we've fixed broken Chinese guns (from the 1980s) with original Soviet AK47 parts kits and the other cosmetic parts did fit (though we had to take into account the slight size difference between the Chinese barrels and all other AKs).

So in my thinking, the only '''difference''' between the Type 56 and the AK47 (other than the obvious Chinese 'style flourishes') is the stamped receiver. Since the AKM instituted a lot more other changes than just a stamped receiver I just consider the Chinese Type 56 series to be a stamped receiver version of the AK47, not the AKM. All the details other than the receiver are "AK47".

Also there is the confusion of how the imported guns were stamped. ALOT of the imported Chinese guns armorers bought in the 1980s were marked "AK47", not AKM. I have samples of Norinco AK type rifles in the 1980s, imported by B-West that are marked either: ''Type 56, Type 56S, Type 56 Sporter, Sporter 56, AK-47, AKS-47, AKS Sporter, AKS-47 Sporter''. The vast majority of guns were indeed stamped AK-47 or AKS-47. (I can take a pic of the marks on the receivers to send to you). So many of the imported Chinese guns were marked AK-47/AKS-47 (as a marketing ploy by the manufacturer since they doubted that most of the American buying public would have any idea what a Type 56 was).

footnote: Only after the import ban of 1989 did we see names like the MAK-90, the NHM-90/91, et. al, those were the first 'thumbhole monstrosities' to enter the country from China.

Since those of us who were buying the guns never referred to them as an offshoot of the AKM, but of the AK47, thats how I've always viewed them. But there is no hard and solid rule. The Chinese guns are their own 'platypus' hybrid.

That's just my 'reasoning' on it, but again, since the Chinese guns are 'hybrids' it doesn't really matter. As long as the rifle types are listed 'SOMEWHERE' on the site, with notations as to what movies they were used in. As has been noted by others, the Chinese guns are by and far the most COMMON AK type to be seen in TV and movies bar none. They were the most plentiful and cheap when they first came out. I know of a prop house in L.A. that was trying to sell of over 400 of them, because they were going out of business (owner died, sons didn't want to continue the family biz).

Again, sorry for my long post. Again, I sometimes wonder, 'when is too much information too much?" I don't want to confuse the users of the site, but the reality is really complex. :) Now don't get me started on the massive 'periodic chart' known as the 'Smith & Wesson Handgun naming chart'.... yeow!!!!

I sure hope it was in some way helpful and informative. :)

==re: Type 56==

Yes, no offense please! :) hahahaha I figured you already knew all the details, but I had to list them just to make sure that I remembered all of the points which brought me to my original conclusion. :) I also remembered the problems of trying to swap the pieces in the past and the total headaches they caused! Hahahaha.

RE: the new page for just Chinese guns - FANTASTIC idea! I didn't think of that myself and would have pretty much yielded to whatever categorization that you thought best, but that's a great solution. '''Are there any SysOps or other super contributors we need to check with? so that they don't start undoing the page? '''

On another note: I will try to take a pic of an unadorned Type 84 by late Thursday night. Is there any other weapon that is not properly represented on this site that I could try to track down and photograph?

Again, always a PLEASURE to discuss stuff with you. And I'll yield to what you think is best. :) best regards
[[UserId#MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==New Images==
Sorry about the delay in the Type 84 pics, but I can't seem to locate the .223 steel magazines. It doesn't look right without it. I will continue to hunt for the correct magazines and get the pic. I just went to the vault and photographed a BUNCH of new stuff. I am also using the pics for marketing purposes, i.e. so that I can email art directors and producers/directors my own images so that they know what the gun looks like, but I am trying to get IMFDB a bunch of ORIGINAL pics found no where else. :) No airsoft guns here. :) All real deal. More to come.

[[Image:FNMAG58.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|FN Mag 58 ]]
[[Image:M249ParaModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|M249 Paratrooper model ]]‎
[[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|MAC-10]]‎‎
[[Image:RugerMP9Stock.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|Ruger MP9 stock extended]]‎
[[Image:RugerMP9smg.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|Ruger MP9]]

==Updates==
cc'd to: MT2008, Orca1 9904, Charon68 and others... :)
I've been trying to get higher rez original pics to IMFDB for a little bit now. One of the major beefs I have with site like Security arms.org or Guns of the world.ru is that there are some really crappy pics, and lots of those pics are weird hybrid variations that are not good representations of the mainstream version of the firearm. Though I've had some nice comments from a few folks, I need to verify that it's kosher to try to eliminate the bad resolution 'stolen from the net' pics and replace them with original photographs. (granted permission by me the copyright holder) Don't know if I am stepping on anyone's toes or if anyone would be offended that I replaced their image (which was 'borrowed' from the net originally) with another image. If anyone thinks I should NOT be replacing pics on existing pages with new gun images, please let me know. Do the majority of IMFDB users even care? I'm fully expecting '''other sites''' to start stealing images from IMFDB when the level of pics goes up. :) hahahaha.

==Zastava==
I just did it because the Ak page was just getting too huge, and so many Chinese Aks were being used in films to "portray" Russian AKs that it made sense to put the Chinese guns in there. The QBZ-97 is just bullpup versions of AKs but it gets its own page. The Yugo AKs are really different from the other AKs, not as much as the Czech VZ58 which is an entirely different firearm. I know folks want to keep items to one page with a lot of variants, but I thought the entire series of Yugoslavian guns (all the way from the M70 to the M92 and their RPK variants) deserved their own page. You never see the Yugoslavian guns 'masquerading' as Russian or Chinese guns. They are always seen as weapons from the Balkans or Bosnian conflict. Of course the powers that be can always slam me down ;) But I figured it was worth a shot. :)

Let me know what you think. :)

BTW: on another note, I was going to suggest to the senior staff that pages like the KVAR's bullpup kit for the AK (as seen on the gun page [[Century Arms AK-47 bullpup]] doesn't merit a different page since it is just a commercial after market stock kit that goes on any AK and itself is not a weapon itself. The same goes for the [[Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup]] ... there is no such thing as a Muzzelite MZ14. It is a plastic aftermarket bullpup stock kit that can go on either a Mini14, a 10-22 or a Marlin Camp 9 carbine. It has only ever been seen in movies with a Mini-14 inside. It does not merit a separate page since it is not a real gun, but a stock kit for an existing gun (i.e. the Mini-14). Curious to know what you think of that as well. :) Always good to hear your input.

== Re: ''Lord of War'' ==

I believe the 400px size is just fine for screenshots, as it's usually big enough to give a good view of what's being shown in the image, and you can always click on the image to view it larger if you want. You don't see full-size images posted in articles on Wikipedia, after all. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:24, 4 August 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

== Hey ==

Hey MT2008, I'm [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]], I seen your comment on my talk page about the most guns in movies like [[District B13]], and I would like to wish you good luck with your [[Hard Boiled]] and beating the records for most guns. I work on this site myself once in awhile, the reason you don't see me much on here is because I'm not as active on this site as I used to be, but I still like to do some screencappping once in awhile. I also want to say you take good screenshots and make great pages, so keep up the good work. Also, are you going to do [[Belly]] and [[Boyz n the Hood]] again? not that I'm trying to rush you to do them, I'm just wondering. And again keep up the good work. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Hey again ==

Hey, no problem, and good luck with everything. Good work on cleaning up the Beretta page, it looks much better. Also, you said you like Taurus PT92s, right? Well, I uploaded a screenshot with a very nice looking one for the [[Shooter]] page a week or two ago if you want to check it out. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

Yep, I'm one of moderators, as well as Orca, who I'm sure you met already. if you have any problems with anybody vandalizing or spamming your pages, or anything on this site, just let me know. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

To space out pages, I notice some people just space out the variants as much as they need to until they get the desired effect, it's worth a try. Thanks for complimenting [[Shooter]] by the way, I myself like the Berettas, I always liked the way they look. And about the M1911A1 page, yeah, that page does need work, especially with all those variants that nothing listed for them. Anyway, good luck with the pages, and I'll be sure to help out as much as I can. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

==Question==
Hi MT2008, I was just reading over your profile (because I like to know those I work with) and I noticed the M1911/M1911A1 isn't to be found on your favorite guns page. I'm not trying to preach it to you or anything, but I practically worship the handgun. John M. Browning, possibley the most ingenius gunmaker of all time, pretty much birthed the conventional self-loading pistol. This pistol was so good, it still stayed in US service up until Desert Storm, when the M9 took over (not exactly a loved desision today). Keep in mind, the blowback locking breach action of Browning's 1911 has been used in glocks, USPs, Berettas, and many other handguns today. You can say it is really the grandfather of all handguns. Yet it can't truly be beaten in basic design. His idea was so good, it still is unbeaten today 97 years later. It's simple, reliable, versatile, accurate, powerful, and it hold 7 shots... my lucky number. And capacity isn't a problem with the Para-Ordinance models anymore. Whoops, this strayed from being a question. Like I said, I don't mean to preach, but I just thought I'd let you know. (Plus, Browning thought up that frame mounted slide stop safety you like so much on the PT92.) As always, I like your work and your a great contributor to the site. Keep up the good work, and take in mind what I said. (Note how I wrote an essay on the .45 on the page. All that from well remembered memory. Double checked of course.) [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== ''U.S. Marshals'' Screenshot Needed ==

Hello, I was wondering if you could help me with something? I noticed that you got most of the screenshots for ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'', and I was wondering if you could get one of [[Robert Downey Jr.]] from it, possibly with him using his [[Taurus PT945]] or [[Glock#Glock 22|Glock 22]] for the article on that actor? It would be greatly appreciated.

[[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC) Orca1_9904

==Photo request for SIGP226==
Funny that you'd ask. I tried swapping them in the past. They don't fit. They're the same guns, but the finishes throw the tolerances all off. I can't get a silver slide to even FIT onto a standard black frame and vice versa. I may be able to FORCE it, but the gun won't be fireable. Any two toned guns you see, were either fixed and fitted by a really good gunsmith or were finished by the factory. But it's impossible to swap slides and frames on those guns if they're of different finishes.

==MT2008's question re: Colt Launchers==
Though I may be wrong, I have not heard of a COLT manufactured 37mm launcher. They may have made one, but it is not well known and I can't find any independent verification of it but then I haven't scrutinized all products made by Colt. The photos on the page show a 37mm launcher, but I can't see any Colt markings. These look like the ones that were made by RPB/SWD and of course Cobray as far as I know. Also I know for a fact that 99.99% of the M203 launchers seen in movies are COBRAY manufactured CM203 37mm launchers. Sometimes we pull out the REAL destructive Device M203 (I have access to several) when a film specifically asked for one where they can see more details (the real M203 is a rifled barrel, the 37mm flare launcher is a smooth bore, amongst other differences) but most of them are Cobray 37mm launchers. I will of course yield if I can be pointed to an independent info source or web page that specifically confirms a COLT marked 37mm launcher but right now, I can definitely tell you that all of the 'fake 40mm launchers" I've seen on movie/television sets are Cobray or RPB or SWD manufactured 37mm launchers. I'm pretty sure anything built by Colt would have the Colt logo stamped on the item. If you verify any info on Colts, please pass it along :) Sigh. On another note, I guess I will have to photograph my M203s in detail for this site as well. MPM2008

(Edit), Well I've been looking for a while and even checked the full listings of weapons currently manufactured and distributed by Colt Inc, Colt LLC or any of the other possible names for COLT. As far as I know, Colt does NOT make 37mm Launchers. Why should they? They make the 40mm Launchers. I've done a google search and as far as 30 pages in, I've never found ONE reference to a 37mm launcher that was not a Cobray/SWD/RPB manufacture or the M203 Airsoft model (which some gun writers, or sellers wrongly confuse with a flare launcher.)

I am in support of eliminating the Colt Flare Launcher page, since I can find no evidence to support it. Please reply and let me know your thoughts.

==Thanks==
Hope you don't think I'm badgering you. Just trying to be thorough. :) re: research into the CFL page. Anyway, I really gotta run now, I got tons of weapons to organize and deal with.... and people are waiting for me. :) Thanks again. MPM2008

==Reply==
About the Mossberg 500s, I believe a cruiser comes standard on the gun, os they are most likely 500s with pistol grips or they had the heat shields removed.

==More pics==
Hope you like the new pics. I've been going NUTS photographing M16s hahahahaha and I finally uploaded the M14 pics that Gunmaster Requested :) Hey, I even got a Diemaco C7 ! ;) I will try to get a shot of THAT. :) I can only do a few weapons a day since it takes longer than expected to photograph them. I did finally get to photograph my Remington PSS 700. I hope to do the Type 84 sometime soon, but I have to tear some of them down to original configuration and that takes some time. I want to get better M4 Pics and M4 with accessories. I am also going to photograph more of my FALS and G3 variants when I get the chance. And I will try to figure out a way to do your P226 shots. :) Best regards MoviePropMaster2008.

==XM177==
Some good news. I now have Every variant of the original XM177s. It took a while since so many of them were in 'pieces'. Including at least three variations of the 'fake' XM177s that we see in movies like [[Blood Diamond]]. I am really looking forward to posting good shots of all the XM177 guns. I think that IMFDB is the only place on the web that will have these pics. I may have to get an airsoft gun just to show the difference, since so many of the shots here on IMFDB are airsoft guns (ugh!). MPM2008 ''(Edit: Damned IMFDB logged me out in the middle of my post to you! Weird). Well It's really ME typing this, not some unknown IP address.)''

== Re: Beretta ==

Thanks for the correction, the 92 FS thing was from the other articles I copied and pasted from to get things done faster, but I'll be sure to use the correct spelling for now on. And thanks for uploading the Beretta used in the film, it's very cool. Also, what do you think of [[Die Hard with a Vengence]] now? --[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:57, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

There you go, I uploaded the scene you talked about and noted that they were really BB guns, let me know if the screencap is good enough--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

==RE:Dirty Harry==
That's what I meant by in full, by actually screencapping the movie 100% second by second. I never understood why people would screencap half a page and then stop, is it lazyness or something? I always go second by second through a movie and grab as many good shots as possible. To me, you can never have too many shots of one gun, as my 15 AKM shots in Rambo II will show soon. I also had plans to eventually add some shots to Saving Private Ryan like how I added shots to BB2 and Black Hawk down just to make it more full and maybe tears of the sun. I'm kinda sick today but I'll try to get Rambo II uploaded as soon as I can.

==Re: Your comment on the Rambo II HK93==
Though that is a reasonable assumption, there is no evidence that the gun was a 93. When I was at the Stembridge gun room in the 1980s I distinctly recall that there were as many HK33s as there were HK93s. I know, nowadays, that seems weird, but not so weird when we could import anything we wanted back in the day.... Thanks. The guns which were TONS of conversions were the MP5s (originallyi HK94s), AR15s into M16s and ARMs/Type 56s into full auto AKs. Just noting ... BTW: Now that I submitted a shot of my HK33, I'm photographing my HK93. Sure hope folks (other than you :) ) appreciate all the original gun pics .... hahaha. best regards, MPM2008

==Finally put the MP5A5 in==
That's been bugging me for a long time. The MP5A5 picture wasn't even an A5. Finally got the correct pic in. :) Am staring at a rack of shotguns that I have to photograph for the site, but gotta get to it. :)

==Saving Private Ryan==
What do you think of the new and improved [[Saving Private Ryan]] page? -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]

:Thanks, I can't stand watching the debates but I thought I'd share how I own an M1 Garand myself. A battle hardened Garand that served in WWII and was then Re-Issued in Korea. It is fitted with the Korea era sling. And the best part. Only $600 bucks! I had a WWII guns phase and me and my father did a lot of searching. Still wish I could get an M1A1 Thompson and a B.A.R. Too hard to get cheap and legal though. -GM

::I also have two clips for it in my room, one of which is load with dummy rounds so I can cycle it. Most people think the clip pings when it hits the ground but it pings as it leaves the gun. Also, the little button on the left side allows you to do what some rocking chair commandos say is immpossible. RELOAD. Pull the bolt back and press it and the clip pops out no matter how loaded it is. I can also field strip it and clean it. It shoots nice too.
:And on the A-Team page, I sent a message to Bunni on how only registered users should be able to edit the site. Unregistered users should only view. It would make all our lives a lot easier, don't you think? I'll fix it now.

==Garand Pics==
My M1 rifle:
[[Image:100 2842.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1 Garand rifle with En-Bloc clip, loaded with dummy rounds.]]
[[Image:100 2843.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The gun is too long for one clear shot! This is the barrel end, note '50s era Korean war sling.]]
[[Image:100 2844.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The En-bloc clip loaded half way in the Garand.]]
:Pretty cool, huh? I'm gonna upload more on my page so everyone can see my neat stuff.

==Edit--
Removed the old Airsoft pic of the 870 . :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:50, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

==Ask and Ye shall Receive==

This is the best I can do. My Sigs aren't exactly the same as some of the movie guns by other armorers. They ARE blank adapted movie guns and they ARE well worn, due to abuse by actors and stuntmen but we all know that. :) Can you use these? You're the first one to see them. I haven't even added them to the SIG page because they're special pieces.

[[Image:SigP226TwoTone01.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px]]
[[Image:SigP226TwoTone02.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px]]

==Two Tones part 2==
:''Thank you SO much! Those look great, and actually, they look very close to the ones that have appeared in quite a few movies. We can start replacing the two-tone SIG pics that we have on our other pages with these immediately! Again, I greatly appreciate you doing this for me. ''

Here is another one. I forgot to swap out the silver hammers (based on the pic with John Travolta, so here is one. I've seen it in every configuration. Sometimes the factory does it, so there are lots of opposite color highlights (trigger, breakdown pin, safety, etc.) and then there are the simple 'swap the barrel & Slide' variety.

[[Image:SigP226TwoTone03.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Two tone Sig P226 with SILVER HAMMER this time]]

:''How will I ever repay you?''

Lots of booze, gold and women... ;)

:''Out of curiosity, since you told me that they usually don't fit, how did you make them work together? -MT2008 ''

Oh they fit, but you have to force it and they won't cycle. The black slide SIG, when you pull the slide back (you have to pull it HARD) it won't even move forward. You have to tap it with a mallet to make it slide forward to cycle a round. Also you can fire one blank out of the gun and the slide will 'stick' back even with a full magazine. Unless the factory does it (which they do) you have to take it to a smith to 'fit' the parts. Fun Huh? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

==More of your questions answered==
Sorry about that but these smaller questions get lost in the shuffle.

* Why didn't Stembridge convert HK94s further? Answer: They did. There were lots of conversion kits available in the 1980s (a lot through Shotgun news). Paddles and full auto trigger packs with the SEF lowers were also available from many vendors back in the day. A lot of Stembridge's guns, scratch that, MOST of the MP5s were converted HK94s. Why? Back in the day a factory FULL AUTO MP5 was $2500. An HK94 (from 1983-1988) was about $699.00 at the local sporting goods store. Wholesale it was about $499.00 Convert it in shop and pay the $200 tax stamp, it's still way cheaper than buying a new MP5 (at the time). They still used full auto HK94s until they closed (the first time) in 2000. Alot of the MP5s were conversions done all the way (with new barrels, paddles and lower trigger packs). Heck, we do that too. If we have an old MP5 we just put a new lower on it and ta-dah! MP5A5! etc. etc. If you see more obvious HK94 conversion guns, it's just that those are the ones grabbed off the rack. Or else they ran out of the fully 'tricked out' ones.

* Is the SIG P220 Sport from Cinema Weaponry? Answer: No, it's mine. :) BTW Mike Papac from Cinema Weaponry is off on the east coast shooting some film with Mel Gibson right now, so I can't ask him trivia questions about the films he worked on. At least until he and I do lunch again. ;)

* AK Shorty? Answer: I will check with Harry Lu when I see him, but he's working A LOT and isn't in town all that often. But I will try.

* How do we feel about anti gun projects? Answer: normally it's not an issue. Most of the time, we don't even know the SCRIPT for the movie. We're probably the lowest level of crew. Notice how the lowest art director's assistant or 'HORSE wrangler' gets credited BEFORE the armorer does? But if something is just outrageous, NONE of us will work on it. A few years back a really atrocious script was being floated and none of the weapons rentals guys would work on it, me included. It was very refreshing to see that even guys in Atlanta, Florida and New York wouldn't touch it either. Can't say much about the horrible script but it was REALLY offensive to anyone who likes guns in America. And no one did it. The filmmakers were astonished that no one would help them. It was funny to see. Most of the ACTORS and Directors/Producers are ultra left gun haters anyway. So we avoid talking to them about ANYTHING other than the movie and what we have to do on set. It's better that way.

* M16A2 Answer: I will try to get to it. I have a bunch of real A3s and A4s that I can shoot as well, even though they really look alike from more than a few inches away ;) I am trying to get a good M4 carbine shot. All the ones that are available have custom crap on them ( like custom flash hiders/muzzle brakes) that very few people would recognize. I'm trying to get ICONIC aka classic look images of the gun. On that note, I want to replace that Ruger Mini-30 shot with a factory standard looking shot. I DO have a bunch of A2s that I will try to photograph.

What do you think of the 12 gauge pump shotgun page? Dumb idea? Input would be appreciated.

Also I think I need to put a separate WISH LIST page together, since I'm getting a lot of requests for photos of certain guns. I wonder if anyone from other gun sites are jealous of the gun pics that IMFDB has? hahahahaha. That's one thing that keeps me going! but don't tell anyone.... MPM2008

==Casino Royale==
Uh dude. you're right and that other guy is wrong. No way it's a Zastava M76. I think there is a foreign name for the WASR 3 gun (the one NOT imported into the US), but I don't know what it is. Robey can get all that stuff that good old' BATF won't allow into this country. :( Check out the flash hider, the front sight, the foregrip and the grenade launcher sight. What confuses a lot of people up is that Zastava also has a dragunov like SNIPER rifle also called the M76.
[[Image:Zastava-M76.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Zastava M76 Rifle - 5.56x45mm ]]

==XXX==
The MP9 is seldom seen in the movie and the non-screenshot pic is better than the shots in the movie. She fires it eyes closed and the muzzle flash and smoke make it hard to see (in pretty much the only scene she uses it). I pretty much took what I could get. -GM45

==Where Eagles Dare==
Nice job so far, you've gotten a lot done very quickly. It certainly looks more filled out then it did before. It wasn't even in proper format to the site. Keep up the good work, I'll look at it more when I finish [[Kelly's Heroes]]. -GM45

== Bad Boys II P226 ==

About the [[Bad Boys II]] page, should we use the Two Tone P226 with the black hammer for the P226 section? I'm asking this because I noticed the hammer was black on Martin Lawrence's P226, it's entirely up to you because I figured you might want it to look as much like the gun in the film as possible.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:54, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

== Need some help ==

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber

== Re:Beretta M92FS ==

I just started doing the honors (forgot to log in of course), And thanks for telling me if there were any differences between them. I'm going to watch Heroes for an hour now, but I'll get right back on replacing the images when I get back.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:02, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Should cartoons be allowed? ==

I want to know if it is either no one cares about the fact that cartoons like Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and recently South Park had been allowed to this site. I have don't think these pages should exist because do you think about the rare guns that appears on those shows and wonder what they are? Cause I sure don't. I'm too busy laughing my ass off to how funny these series are, not wondering if the shotgun Homer used in the Zombie episode was a Winchester Model 1887 or that it never appeared in any other episode following. I don't care and I dont think anyone else should care. We're getting cartoon fanboys that thinks just because Family Guy has an episode where Stewie has a closet full of look alike guns, means we should write a page about them. Those guns are not the point of the show and the artist that drew them obviously didn't take much consideration for them or mention. I think Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and South Park be removed at once. None of them deserve to be on this site. And whoever puts them here doesn't respect this site enough.

==New Pics==
:''I'm also curious...what would you think of a page dedicated to explaining the importance of your gun images to new users of the site, and featuring examples of your work? It would be linked from the main page.''
Don't know exactly what you mean. I know that some of the mods have had to restore some of my pics in the past when a new member replaced them with a stolen airsoft pics. As far as pointing out the movie guns, Don't know if it's important. Most of the new pictures of guns are indeed movie guns but since I can't confirm what they've been in (I suspect some of the really NICE and clean versions haven't been out at all, being that actors are idiots who break EVERYTHING they touch), I tend to just like having them here as a crisp clean photograph of the gun (and ones that only IMFDB has and no other website does). I tend to keep a low profile but only need to have the most active members (GM45, MT2008, ORCA, Alienqueen, Bunni, Excal, etc.) in the communication loop for the most part.

If you have a specific idea, let me know. :)

BTW: just came back from ANOTHER shoot. An actor who was just standing there in an open field waiting for his shot, DROPPED, my Colt M4 Carbine with RIS rails, L mount and Aimpoint sight on the ONE patch of concrete (left over from a demolished building from 1900) in an entire field of soft dirt. Literally it was 100 yards of soft dirt and grass and he manages to find the ONE patch of concrete in several acres and drops my gun on it. He cracked the knob of the L mount off the gun. This was a pristine gun and yet another actor finds a way to Fuck it all up. Figures. :(

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
==Re: Helping out with replacing pics==
Thanks for helping on replacing the new pics with the old ones. Since I have limited time, I spend it mostly grabbing the guns and photographing them. A lot of the guns need to be reconfigured (custom stuff removed, classic buttstocks or flash hiders put BACK on, etc.) Hopefully other members can help with the task of updating some of the older pages. I do it when I see something but since my time is limited I'd rather spend it getting the list of request images done, rather than spending it editing other pages. Thanks.

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Dawn of the Dead ==

Hey, I just uploaded some new [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights. Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:43, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Disregard, GM45 answered my questions.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:55, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

It's okay, I'm sure you would have did your best. And don't worry, I got your message on the [[Die Hard 2]] talk page, and I promise I'll have some new MP5 shots Friday, and I'm also going to upload some new screencaps for the original [[Die Hard]] eventually, and also replace those Youtube quality shots that are on the page now. And also, do you like the new Beretta Inox shots for the [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] page?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh yea, I saw your message on the [[Beretta M92F]] talk page, and I approve moving it to a different name since it dosen't really make sense to have it titled "Beretta M92F" when it includes 92Gs and 92SBs. Feel free to move the page whenever you're ready.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it'll messed up pages with the original links (atleast I hope not) because the M1911 Series page used to be called 1911 and the Beretta M92F page used to be referred to as Beretta 92 and the links didn't react badly to the renaming back then. I'd say go for it, and if anything goes wrong I'll help fix the links.

And yeah, titles linking to gun pages irks me for the same reasons. Some user who made an account when the site was getting started created that trend, I also hate it because when new users see pages like that, they sometimes get the wrong idea on editing and making pages.

And yes, I'll be more then happy get rid of any pages you don't want. Just send me a list of them, and they'll be gone.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

There you go, that should give us a little more server space. I really hate when people create duplicate pages of movies we already have on here, they can atleast check first before making a page. And that Terrorist and Top Ten Rifles pages were of no use to the site, I don't even understand why people create stupid pages like that. Well, anyway, thanks for letting me know about those pages, the site will be better off without them, if you come across anything else, just give me a call.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:05, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll delete them as I come across them. Also can you do me a favor? Redirect the [[Shoot to kill]] page to a properly punctuated title, I would do it, but I don't really know how to redirect pages. Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Also to answer an earlier question, to check what pages or images link to a particular page, go a page such as [[Beretta M92F]], and look in the toolbox, and click on "what links here".--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:51, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

No problem, let me know how it goes once you do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:57, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

== Tybalts Gun ==

I was wondering if you know where I can find a compensator like the one on tybalts taurus. Thanks
::Since this guy is anonymous, I can't message him so I hope you don't mind if I tell him on your discussion board MT. Some sites are www.Gunbroker.com, www.eBay.com, www.Gunsamerica.com. Search, search, and search some more. You'll find whatever you need on those. I got a compensator for my M1911 on ebay. -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]

I protected all MPM2008's pictures. And yea, that one user is really pissing me off, he dosen't listen and dosen't seem to know a good picture when he sees one. MPM2008 puts too much effort into his images for idiots to upload crappy pictures (Which they probably found on Google) over them like that. Anyway, thanks for reverting the USP image, I also hope to able to block users back soon because I could really use that.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

==Special page==
I'm too tired right now to formulate a good response, :) But I will get to that, re the new special page, but I tend to lean away from drawing undue attention to my efforts. :) MPM2008

==keeping me honest==
Remember if you see an obvious screw up in my updates, please correct it and let me know. I now triple check when someone brings something up. :) I may not have time to do another photo shoot until this weekend. :) MPM2008

== Problem fixed ==

I have good news, thanks to Bunni, we have the ability to block users back, and I also want to let you know that Hieloco is now gone, he'll never be able to upload images, or edit again. By the way, I recommended you and GM45 for positions as moderators.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:26, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

The position could still be useful to you in other ways as well. Even if you're unable to catch vandals right away, you can still use the priviledge to delete any pages you don't want or protect them. It's entirely up to you, if you're not interested, just let me know, and I'll tell Bunni.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:47, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Just made you an Admin ==

You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

==Beretta Inox flashpaper gun==
It's funny how you uploaded the ISS Beretta Inox, because I'm making the punisher page now and Travolta uses that gun. -GM
: I also have an ISS .45 uploaded on [[A Beautiful Mind]] if you need it. -GM
Whatever is easier for you is fine by me. I'll make sure to check it out when your done. - GM
: I knew that blanks expanded like that, I guess I just saw what looked like a live round. Whoops. -GM

==non guns==
Awesome work on the page. Don't know where you got the pics of the devices, but they're very well known around here. And I think they're particularly fugly. ISS is all hot shit on the fact that "They" have the only "NON" guns. Now you know that no one OWNS a Panavision camera. They are all OWNED by Panavision and owners/rental houses/etc. only '''lease''' them from Panavision. Just like most of the DOLLIES used in tracking shots, these items are never sold, only LEASED and can be 'recalled' to the parent company at any time. Well NON guns are only available from one place. Other armories cannot ever buy them. We can only subrent them. This new page may not be particularly pretty (the guns are pretty ugly) but it is an important educational element to understanding weapons in films. Usually they're used in places where you can't fire a real gun but need a flash (I filmed in a building right next to a children's hospital and no blanks were allowed), I know of friends who did shoot outs right outside the WHITE HOUSE, and the secret service would only approve of the non guns, and most of the time in NYC, who has such F$*(&ed up gun laws, that most actual gun fire sequences in major motion pictures are done OUTSIDE of the limits of NYC. Great work! IMFDB is getting to be THE definite "weapons in movies" info page!

==Pics==
Sorry, I've been really SICK for the last ten days and haven't had a time to set up and take pics of guns. When I sit down and rest, i've managed to upload just some files I already had prepared on my computer, but it was just being able to sit down and do stuff that made it possible. Yeah, I know, gun pics are all I'm good for ... ;) Also it's been crazy busy around here. I'm tempted to start making up an "Hello IMFDB" card and start taking pics of actors/actresses in motion pictures holding it and posting them here as a giggle. Usually also holding a movie gun as well. You guys tell me what to put on the card, and I'll start taking it with me to sets, and get famous actors to have their pic taken holding it. I was thinking the IMFDB logo. Again it only works if I can get people to take out a few minutes to do that. The last several productions have been insanely busy and last minute. Usually I get called to the set to bring a gun to an actor, literally SECONDS before the camera rolls. Of course I do a training and practice session if they're firing it, but when I'm handing off an obvious deactivated gun or non firing prop weapon, usually it's totally last minute.

== Re: Screenshots ==

Okay, I'll leave them alone. I also spotted some very good [[Ronin]] screenshots that MoviePropMaster uploaded, want me to leave those as well?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:06, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed some of the Grand Theft Auto 4 pictures that were on the site before the Great Crash, I'll leave them there for use in the future. do you want me to get rid of the old Hulk Screenshots?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Good Job, Now that most of them are gone, we should have a ton of room for new and better images. And I agree, seeing how Chaos was, there's no telling how many more extra gun images are out there, I'll be sure to keep an eye for anymore like that because happen to noticed you deleted like atleast three Beretta 92FS pictures. And yea, I really wish people wouldn't upload extra gun pictures, especially when we have the ones MPM2008 taken, there should be no need for them to upload their own images. I'll be sure to check the Revolver page as well.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Okay the ugly gun has a good looking cousin!==
you asked for this a long time back .... BTW, got the Type 84S as well ....
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:NorincoType84SRifle.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the PSG pic

==Question==
I have some SR9 sniper rifles. These were actually 'built' up from HK91 rifles back in the day (alot of the movie guns are 'built' rather than factory stock. I'm sure you know especially the history of the "MP5 versus the HK94 conversions" or the endless "Type 56 versus every AK variant on the planet".) As far as a 'historical reference of the real guns' "Hollywood guns" fall short. My "SR9" upper receivers don't have the forward assist of the actual SR9 guns, but everything else is correct. Is it wrong to post the pics? These guns HAVE been in films and TV shows in the past. The SR9 pictured was in "Nash Bridges" at least once. (edit) and you can see the same SR9 style gun used in SNIPER with Billy Zane, But real gun aficionados might wonder why the upper receiver looks more like a 91 versus an SR9. I will try to get a REAL SR9 rifle and post that pic, but I'm torn, being that we use built up SR9s in American movies and tv shows, though some other armorers have the 'real deal'. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:07, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Type 56 underfolder==
[[Image:Type56MuzzleBrake.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]
I just saw GOLDENEYE again this weekend on the television and noticed that the 'cuban' soldiers at the end had Type 56 rifles under folder style with those fake AK74 muzzle brakes on them. So I popped a fake AK74 muzzle brake on one of my Type 56 underfolders and took a pic (for the Goldeneye page). Just a note, all of my own bolt carriers have been blued (after the fact). I should have kept some of them 'silver' for times like these. I will try to track down an unmodified bolt carrier and reshoot some of the guns so that they look stock. The Type 84 has a blued bolt carrier and the original factory model does not.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:39, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==SR9s and AKs==
The SR9 in the Replacement killers is a built gun. It has a different lower (see the S-F versus the 0-1) but it doesn't seem to have the forward assist that the SR9 should have (look at the PSG1 to see what the forward assist looks like). But 99.99% of the SR9 guns in movie inventories are built guns. I've only seen authentic guns in foreign movies with foreign armorers. I don't have the exact right Buttstock for my 'faux' SR9T. Is that too distracting? It's been used in films as an SR9T despite the fact that it's a SG/1 buttstock. Again, hollywood 'secrets' are being shattered on this site. But this is not a 'history of firearms' site, in as so much as it is a 'Firearms in the movies' site. And the reality of films is way different than that of guns in the real world, many times.

You're right about the Cuban soldiers. I watched it again on DVD and though in some angles (the forest near the satellite dish) the mags seem dark, it could just be the angle. I will change the AK Underfolder shot... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:14, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

==SR9==
:''I figured since the SR9 used to be a readily available civilian "assault rifle", armorers would use it. ''

Available yes, readily available no. Since only 125 TCs were imported into the entire USA and only 100 T models, most of these were snapped up by either law enforcement or collectors. Clinton put a stop to their import since they could accept 'high capacity' magazines. I tried for years ever since they started coming out to get a real one but couldn't just because they were hard to get (at least on the West coast). It also depended on which distributor one was cozy with. Since the rifles themselves were all built on HK91 receivers anyway, it was easier to get the parts and convert existing HK91s. Since THESE guns have impersonated real TC guns I figured why the hell not? The screencap of Billy Zane in Sniper is one of these very guns. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:43, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on [[Four Brothers]]. I think there's also a "Non Gun" Glock in the Glock 17 section if you want to look at that.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

==worries==
:''Hope it doesn't bother you that we're unmasking all of the various tricks that you armorers have been using over the years to convince moviegoers they're seeing one gun when it's actually another!''

I was just worried about places like the HK forums with all of those HK enthusiasts. What concerns me is that some people in the firearms community, who are purists, won't understand that IMFDB is not a 'gun history' site per se, but a "history of guns in the movies" site. I actually got worried that HK aficionados would be offended that I had posted images of 'built' movie guns that closely approximate a specific gun, like the movie built SR9T guns rather than getting a bonafide SR9T... when I actually stop to think of it. I will really try to get the real deal in a photo (borrow them from collectors if I have to), but in reality, (just like having Type 56 rifles or Maadis impersonate the REAL AKs in films), movie guys impersonate a few guns, just because it was easier to do so at the time. Like the Fake XM8s in xXx:State of the Union, it all seems so 'fake' when it's revealed to the public, kinda like a magician's tricks. As far as bothering me, no, it is information and cinema history that needs to be collected and shared. I just feel a little weird presenting to gun people ''"Here is a fake Machine gun '_ _ _ _' that we had to build from plastic and metal parts because we didn't have access to the real one (like the DShKs)"'' If you get my meaning. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

==New pics==
Well I finally got the M16A2 done, I'll get the A3 and A4 as well as a Diemaco done soon. Finally I got to replace my old HK91 pic! :) woohoo! there was a shadow on the upper handguard that bugs me. Does it bug you? The lights were too close and didn't cover the entire rifle. It's not a stock HK magazine, though, it's one of those Taiwanese Blued 30 round magazines that were imported in the 1990s. I'm pretty happy though, I think this is one of the best pics of the HK91 on the web right now. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:HK Model 91.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

==Luger P08==
(posted this to Alienqueen as well) :) . I finally posted a pic of one of the Lugers we have in inventory. Apparently this is one of the Luger P08s used on the Television show "Hogan's Heroes" in the 1960s. It sure is beat up. Though that info is third hand is the only reason I don't post it because I don't have the info directly from the source. The Barrel was replaced about 20 years ago for some reason, which is why the finish doesn't match. It's a bit of TV history, thought you'd get a kick out of it. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:08, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:LugerP08Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|500px]]

==Congrats==
Congratulations on the upcoming P226! I wish it was as easy to buy a handgun in NY as it is in Texas. NY sucks with gun laws (gun control laws are bullshit). If my dad wasn't a liscense FFL dealer, I'd have pretty much no chance of enjoying the guns I enjoy now.
: I got [[Last Man Standing]] finished and I'm going to do [[Shawshank Redemption]] and [[Hotel Rwanda]] soon. Then I'm going to try to fully do [[The Dirty Dozen]] and then I've only got 10 more movies on my list to do. (including the The whole yards movies, some war movies, and Blazing Saddles.) I'll try to get them all done by the end of the month.
P.S. Not to get political, but I hope Biden keeps his Assault Weapons Ban to himself, because not many know he wrote Clinton's ban. If he focuses on gun control during Obama's term, we are majorly fucked (excuse the language). -GM
::My father is the same way with assault rifles. He says he doesn't like guns designed to kill. Splitting hairs there. Biden's ban is ridiculous though, he believes any semi-auto gun is considered an assault weapon, including the Browning A5 and the Ruger 10/22! It is foolish and I can't say anything threatening about him because he is VP, but I STRONGLY DISLIKE HIM. [insert uber-insulting text]. I don't understand how people like him make it into office. Dammit, I started a political discussion. -GM

==Taurus 85==
:''There's only one that troubles - I think the newer Taurus 85 image is a bit fuzzier compared to the old one. ''
WTF? try refreshing and looking at the file again. That might fix it. The new pic is way clearer than the old one. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==G3 page==
Ugh. Looks like Kin93 added some pics, but I'm not sure if we need to list ones that don't appear in any movie or flick. What are your thoughts? Also the formatting of the G3 page is going all to hell. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==emasculated guns and a discovery==
Well, none of the armorers that I know have those castrated thumbhole HK "Sporting purpose" guns with the neutered forearm (designed to not resemble a "military forearm" woooooo Scary.....). I mean, we don't have pics of all the THUMBHOLE monstrosity AKs (the MAK-90s, the NHMs, etc. etc.) that were imported in the 1990s. Because they weren't used for the most part (I do know of some B movies which had them, but until we list those films, I don't think we should have the pics). It's a bit like all those weird Cutaway shots of guns that have NEVER been in a movie. What's the point? It just clutters the pages and site and doesn't educate anyone about guns in films.

BTW: I found one of those long barreled mystery AK folders I was mystified by in "stealth". Well I don't have it now, but I will try to photograph one when I visit one of my Canadian armorer friends in January. It's the Norinco Type 84 Target Match rifle (with either full stock or folding stock). Very FEW got into the U.S., but they were heavily imported into Canada (that is until the Montreal Massacre of 1989 when that psycho Marc Lépine murdered 14 female students with a Mini-14, however, it took the Canadian government until 1995 to ban Semiautomatic long guns in Canada). So the Canadians had five more years of importing ugly guns than we did. Anyway, my gun control vent is off now ;) I will get a shot of the long barreled Norinco Type 84. :) woo hoo. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

:''And yes, we definitely have some of the best gun pics on the 'Net thanks to you. I must admit I'm still smitten with the fact that Norinco Type 84 pics are basically non-existent in just about any gun image site around (even World Guns, which is usually pretty reliable)...except here. ''
Actually World Guns has pretty crappy photography and I'm pretty sure they jack their shots from other sources as well. That's the reason why I work so hard on the photos. The Net has crap pics of guns. Most of the guys don't know how to take a decent picture (some of the guys take some nice outdoor pics though). I've always liked those Japanese gun magazines with the outrageously sexy product photos of firearms. Those Japanese photographers always knew how to take awesome pics of guns. Anyway I will continue to try to photograph as much as I can. It's still a long while before I 'run out' of guns to take pictures of. I just need to (a) clean some of them up (b)repair some of them or (c) assemble them. As I mentioned before, I have ALL the parts to make all of the correct XM177 models (original USGI parts) but they're all in bins, mismatched. That's one of the things I've always wanted to do, being that so many people screw up and name 'everything' a Colt Commando, when the Commando was a specific type of firearm. Today is a busy day so not much more stuff from me for a little bit. regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I've seen that feature and took some screengrabs from it. I'm going to put those up after I'm done with the movie shots. Thanks for the remainder too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

== Want me to stop? ==

Cause I just got Pineapple Express, Wanted, Mummy 3. All these movies. I mean, I got the Incridible Hulk before it came out on DVD, I got Iron Man before it came out. Do you want me to leave disclaimers? Want me to stop?

::Fine, I'll stop. And I was actually excited in rewatching Mummy 3 again just to see the guns
:::Right, but still, I mean if we get screencaps from the DVDs and posted it here, aren't we still taking copyrighted images and posting them? How is doing that and taking something from a bootlegged copy any different?
::::I didn't say I did, and I didn't write down here if I even took these off of a bootleg movie that I might or might not have downloaded. I could have found a website that I don't remember. I'll stop posting images from something that isn't offical, IE like a DVD but I am going to write it here that just because the evidence points that these might or might not have been from bootlegged material, doesn't mean I did the bootlegging. I don't want to be accused officially and my words written on this site turned against me. I will not admit or deny anything. But I will stop posting photos that can be questioned.
:::::''My thoughts. Excaliber01, I would not post anything that has not been officially '''released'''. I myself posted pics from the '''Body of Lies''' high definition trailer on the web, as well as the Ironman movie , but that was an officially released trailer and was not a bootleg. I've dealt with MPAA and posting images from screen caps, as long as you're writing something 'newsworthy' or 'educational' about the film, doesn't seem to ruffle many feathers. It dances on the line of being 'journalism' if you're writing about the film, not promoting or doing any fan stuff about it, or using it for any self promotion or commercial purposes. After all, how can anyone '''prove''' that a particular gun appear in a scene, unless there is a screengrab to prove it? However, anything that can be construed as a '''bootleg''' should be avoided. This changes the entire attitude of folks, especially people in the industry and it may direct unwanted attention to IMFDB if we started regularly having proof that a member is posting images from a '''bootleg''' dvd. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:09, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

==The page==
Wow. Don't know what to say. I've been gone doing the "gun Thing" the last several days, so I've been offline. thanks! However, I do stay anonymous for a reason. (a) the film industry (and Hollywood in particular) is full of ultra liberal, anti gun persons ... petty and vindictive persons. They think everyone is one of them ... thinks like them ... and those who do not can suffer their wrath, whether it be through pressure or innuendo. There are tons of folks who are blackballed (not officially) but when any powerful individual doesn't like them ... that person 'magically' can't find work... It's probably one of the most dysfunctional industries in existence, save for the "XXX" adult biz. (b) I never draw attention to myself, only presenting my 'cred' when I'm discussing topics or details with other enthusiasts who seem 'serious enough' about the site. I want freedom to post freely without fear of the repercussions of bad mouthing individuals in the biz. Also it's not about me, but what I can contribute to the site. Alot of the armorers stay pretty low key. I'm actually one of the more opinionated ones. We all talk amongst ourselves, but I've noticed that most of the industry biggies (the most famous working armorers) stay very MUM on the topics of politics or gun control. Weird that people would not put 2 and 2 together, i.e. We work with guns ... but we don't support ultra liberal Democrats who want to BAN guns. It's all part of the ignorance of weapons in movies. I don't know HOW many times I've heard "Oh, you don't use REAL guns do you?", or "Oh, the gun bans won't affect YOU!". Which as you know is total bullshit on both counts. Frankly, the powers that be don't give a crap. Most of the industry 'lower echelon people' keep quiet. I have to bite my tongue when I work, but I don't want to have to bite my tongue when I post ;) (c) Some people are 'asshole magnets'. I know a lot of women who have attracted internet stalkers. I, unfortunately have general idiots doing the whole internet harassment thing already (people posting a person's real name, address, phone#, doing weird things like saying they work as a janitor or dropped out of High school (yes both those falsehoods have been posted). It's always disturbing to Google one's own name only to see some asshat smearing you on his blog. The bigger IMFDB grows, and I hope that it grows HUGE, the more google hits will link to the site. I just stay anonymous because I don't want yet another place where morons can figure out who I am (Believe me, YOU guys (the most trusted posters on the site) will probably get that info BEFORE the public, which is fine by me). Also anyone who knows all the armorers and looks at what I say, can easily figure my identity, which again is okay, but I'm already fighting with a particular idiot who is intent on sliming me and my rep on the net, and I dont' want to drag IMFDB into it. Anyway, that's a more long winded explanation. I really appreciate the thought behind the MoviePropMaster Page, but frankly I don't need the credit. You guys give me all the credit I need with your comments on the pics and pages! :) I don't think that the site benefits all that much from the page right now. Just because at this time I'm staying very low key. :) Hope this is understandable. Thanks again. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:49, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

==Model 29==
Well Charon had a pretty good pic on the Dirty Harry pages. The only thing is that I assumed that these were jacked photos. Question: We discussed this before, but it's okay to remove nice pics but ones that are 'jacked from Google' with new original photos as long as the gun is the same make model and configuration? Right? I don't want contributors getting pissed at me for replacing their posted images, even though they themselves just uploaded it from Google. From your conversations with Alienqueen, I assume that the mods agree, replacing all the "net" photos with original IMFDB pics is the standard action, and contributors will have to realize that they didn't 'own' the copyright to the net pics to begin with.

==Wiki==
So what do you think of that offer? He wrote a very gracious message and was professional enough to make a formal request. I'm on the fence. I take my pics with the intent of having them only on IMFDB. I do have some friends (fellow armorers OR collectors) who have volunteered the pristine examples for photography (since a lot of the movie guns are beat up), that I've allowed to use for their own uses. Ironwood Designs, for example, did the replacement wood on one of the yugoslavian RPKs (that I haven't uploaded yet), and they asked to use that pic for their website, and I gave them permission, since they fixed the broken wood with an exact replica of the original Yugoslavian wood. There are a few people with websites I've given some specific image permission to , but all of these people have helped in the production of the photos in one way or another. So they're different.

Please give me your thoughts. I am not so keen on others using the pics I shot for IMFDB, at least until I can create a watermarked version of the image, ("courtesy of IMFDB", that sort of thing) so people know that the pic was one of the ones from here. I've been watching the web and are actively looking for websites that might pirate these pics. I don't take kindly to people who jack MY pics, so I am ready to email offenders with 'cease and desist' orders ;) Let me know what you think regarding the polite request by the English wiki guy to use my gun images. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

==IMFDB hypocritical? Nah==
I would not clamp down as an IMFDB mod, but as the original photographer. I own the copyright of my own photos and have every right to demand that others not pirate my work. I granted IMFDB the rights (in writing on my user page BTW) to use my photos, I know that anyone who jacks the images will hear from me, the copyright holder. As far as jacking images, (a) I only uploaded some images when there was no image and we needed a place holder. I've been replacing these with images I've shot myself, there are almost none left. If the original copyright holder contacts me (or the site) ... that image will be removed immediately (I assume you all agree with me). I would immediately remove any other person's pics if asked. I just worry that others will not comply if I ask for a removal of my own stuff. I can't control the actions of the other IMFDB contributors, but I shot these images '''FOR''' IMFDB, so I am quite protective of my intellectual and artistic property.

Also, as indicated by the kind and professional email from that English Wiki guy, I see that others have noticed the image quality of IMFDB gun pics :) I'm just working towards the day when persons start looking here for images of guns, rather than those other gun sites! hahaha. (despite the fact that they have much more technical and historical data on the actual guns). Also this is the only place I can post images of the 'faux' or 'conversion' guns that we use in the biz. No real firearms page would be interested in a fake SR9 or a fake MP5 (made from an HK94) or Star handguns standing in for 1911s, etc. etc. Anyway, I say 'bring em on' if anyone complains. I'm working my tail off to replace all the pics with images that have been granted usage rights to IMFDB (by me). :) Can't wait until we have all the jacked gun pics replaced on the site. ;) Let me know what you think. best regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:19, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

==The Crow==
The gun is a chopped Muzzelite bullpup stock that was custom modified to take a shotgun. Mossberg had a Bullpup stock gun (and kit available in the 1980s) but upon closer examination the gun that Ernie Hudson is holding is a Muzzelite for sure.

Also your comments on the accident that killed brandon lee are inaccurate. Believe me, I've been correcting people for YEARS. the gun that shot Brandon Lee was a snub nose Charter Arms .44 bulldog, not the Model 29 seen in the movie. The reason why no one saw it in the movie is because it is from a deleted scene where Funboy ([[Michael Massee]]) shoots Draven in front of an all night convenience store. the footage from that entire scene was later destroyed after the investigation. the scene with the .44 bulldog will NEVER be seen by the general public.

Also the gun armorer had nothing to do with the accident. The armorer was wrapped (i.e. sent home) at midnight that night and the gun was locked up in the props trailer (which is a semi truck trailer on most major motion picture gigs that are being shot on location). However, the director (or 2nd unit director) decided to try to film the scene where Massee shoots lee at 4:30 am, well after the weapons master had been 'wrapped' for the day. As is common when dealing with idiot NON gun ownng people, someone loaded the dummy rounds in first (and then dry fired it). The dummy rounds were live (full metal jacket) rounds purchased from a local gun store, and then the rounds were removed with a bullet hammer and all the powder inside was dumped out (the bullet reseated with a reloading press), but the primers remained live, since the director wanted shots of the undented primers. Well, as you know, when you dry fire a revolver with a dummy round (with live primer) the primer explosion is enough to drive the bullet about an inch into the barrel. Someone handed the gun back to the prop handler (who was NOT the gun handler) and said something to the effect of 'this gun is broken'. When another untrained prop handler unloaded the revolver, she did not notice that one of the "dummy rounds" was missing it's bullet head. Again, chain of custody of the handgun was broken yet another time, and no one on the set was trained enough to CHECK the barrel for obstructions, like they should have. They decided to film the scene WITHOUT the gun wrangler (which was fucking stupid since obviously none of these retards knew anything about guns, but this mentality is COMMON in the industry. Non gun owners are the biggest fuckups with guns... as you've heard me bitch about time and time again.

Anyway, come time to film (about 4:00 AM, four hours when they sent the gun handler home because they told him the were DONE filming any firearms scenes) they loaded a full powered .44 bulldog blank in the gun (with that bullet lodged into the barrel) and it obviously had enough force to expel out the round. What is tragic is that Michael massee wasn't aiming directly at Lee, however, the deformation of the round, plus the fact that it was already 'crooked' in the barrel created a non stable bullet flight. It 'arched' on a weird spin pattern and literally curved it's trajectory into Lee. The bullet entered his lower intestines, and because it was spinning in a weird way, tore all the way up his spinal cord (shattering the spinal cord into splinters) all the way up to the base of his neck. Even if he was taken to an E.R. within seconds, the damage was so severe that he would have died regardless of who or what medical facilities were treating him. What is chilling is that the footage shows the scene continuing as if nothing is wrong and the director calling cut, with set assistants walking up and checking on Lee to see why he is being 'so slow to get up'. It was pretty gruesome.

I wonder what it would have been like to be the gun wrangler getting to set the next day, only to discover that the other props people (who knew nothing about guns) had managed to kill the star with their stupidity. BTW, I knew an actor who was roommates with Michael Massee (Funboy). Massee was so traumatized by the incident that he took a year hiatus and hiked across the Canadian wilderness to 'clear his head'. The entire incident was tragic, but unfortunately, a lot of urban myths are posted on the internet about it. The longer time passes, the more inaccurate accounts I read on the net about the incident. Hope this helps. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:43, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

==Check it out==
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-104 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==FG 42==
damn, that new model looks pristine! Almost weird looking to see one like that. Mine is all beat up (and over 60 years old!) Should I replace my weird looking pic with one of those new ones?(that is if someone I know gets one, I myself aren't interested in the new replica live fire model, but I know other guys who will spend whatever it costs to get one) ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

== John Woo qoute ==

I don't think this line is in the "qoutes" section of the main page, but I like it to be placed in. "Easy to pick up, hard to put down". Obviously refering to guns and ammo. It's a line from the John Woo movie "The Killer" said by Joe, Chow Yun Fat's character

I don't know how to put this qoute into the qoute section of the main page, but do you?

==MAC pics==
I'm more proud of the MAC-11 (380). Now that page has ALL MPM2008 pics! woo hoo! These are the best pics of these guns on the net so far. Did you see the SIG 550? Again, I think it's the best image of that gun on the entire web as well. I had to build up the MAC-11 since the example was in pieces due to an internal part breaking and no one bothered to reassemble it with replacement parts. I'm on the fence about giving the M-11 it's own page. It is technically derived from the original MAC-11 blueprints, but it was elongated so that the bolt carrier could traverse a longer distance in order to properly cycle the more powerful 9x19mm round. And people always mix it up with the other two guns, so I think that putting them together will help "gun ignorant" people understand that these are all distinct guns and not to mix them up. Oh and BTW, the Cobray M11 9mm magazines don't fit in the Ingram MAC-10/9 9mm guns and vice versa. Completely different designs. Just a trivia note.

I have to take a short break to actually do paid "work" (what's that?) and get back to IMFDB later. I am trying to get Thompson pics, but all our Thompsons are in weird configurations. I've already shot an M1928 that was in the Class III vault, and it' rear sight is an M1A1 (WTF?)

Did you see the custom AMD-65 I made for the Rambo page? I think i'll continue building up the configurations as seen in the movies. Heck I got the parts in shop anyway and some of the guns may have been in the film. But usually the ones I fix up are too nice to have been in some of those movies (they were dropped ALOT). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

==The Dark side of movie guns==
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:33, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:BeatType56.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Heck at least it fireable....]]

:I don't think I've ever seen any AK variant beat up that badly, even ones confiscated in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you know those guns get the tar beat out of them... [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 09:13, 23 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

::That's nothing. try having a moron ACTOR touch your AK for a few days. These (liberal anti gun moron actors) manage to destroy weapons all the time. And they claim they don't "like" guns, and yet they mess around with them, drop them, etc. It's gotten so bad that I have a pow wow with the director & producers a lot BEFORE filming starts and tell them, they had better let me stop "unsafe behavior" (meaning I can yell at and confiscate weapons from the "Stars" on sight). Dropping a gun on concrete is not only rude and damages the gun, it can create cracks or breaks or other unseen damage that can create a catastrophic malfunction. Not that likely given the quality of most battlefield or high end guns, but it's the reasoning I use to whip the director & producer into line. The biggest 'threat' i've ever made on set, when no one backed me up when I was trying to stop reckless gun behavior, was to threaten to (a) immediately quit, (b) pack up all the guns & blanks, (c) leave .... and notify their Insurance agency that the armorer left the set due to unsafe weapons and pyrotechnical practices. Boom! That will either get their policy canceled immediately (it's against union rules to work on a set with out com/liability insurance) or get insurance investigators to visit the set immediately. That bluff has never been called! hahahaha. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

==Uncommon valor==
:''It's odd because I had no clue that the Type 56 was imported to the U.S. back when Uncommon Valor was filmed (82-83). I remember hearing it wasn't until 1984 that they reached these shores. ''
well didn't you wonder where all those Chinese AKs came from during the scenes filmed in Hawaii? LOL! Most of the battle scenes were filmed on the Island of Kauai. Many of the locations were the same Hawaiian locations as Jurassic Park. And I noticed how 'well fed' (i.e. hefty) the local extras were when they were playing Laotian People's Army regulars. Alot of the extras were Chinese and Japanese American residents of Hawaii. This particular gun was an amnestied pre 1968 bring back full auto original Type 56, that was registered per the rules of NFA 34 and GCA 68. There were a LOT of bring backs during the war, and many registered full autos found their way into the chains of commerce between full auto weapons owners. MPM

== ''The Kill Point'' ==

Thanks a lot for screencapping ''[[The Kill Point]]''. I originally made the page when the series first aired on Spike TV last year, but haven't found anywhere that sells in on DVD or any place on the net with good-quality video. I really appreciate your help with this article, and look forward to seeing it completed. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 09:12, 23 November 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==GoldenEye discussion==
I moved the golden eye AK discussion to that page's discussion page, you know, the guys get all weirded out by the 'non-encylopedic tone' of discussions on the movie pages. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== ''Jericho'' ==

It may take me a while to do the caps for this thing as they are buried somewhere in the massive pile of burned discs I have (yes, I know, naughty naughty) but there are a few suggestions I can offer you:

(1) M-14/M1A - seen when Hawkins shows Jake his hidden stockpile of weapons prior to New Bern's attack

(2) MAC-10 - used by some of Jonah Prowse's henchmen during the attack on the New Bern mortar sights

(3) AK-47 - used several times in the series by, among others, the Sherrif's deputies in New Bern and Jonah Prowse.

(4) Heckler&Koch UMP - seen in the hands of a U.S. Marine (based on the cammo pattern) at Camp Liberty

(5) Barret M82A1 - seen mounted on the cab of a deuce and a half at Camp Liberty

(6) M60 - used by a citizen of New Bern during the initial firefight with Jericho

(7) Glock 18 - used by Ravenwood mercs, especially Goetz, to kill Sarah - easily identified by the extended magazine

Yeah...forgot to log in here so I had to log back in in order to "claim credit"!!! Sorry dude.

Check the changes/additions I have made and edit them at your will dude!!! Semper Fidelis!!!

You're very welcome. As far as the Glocks go I thought they might be small too but I am sure I heard burst fire from them in the particular episode.
[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 19:17, 26 November 2008

That about wraps up my contributions for this one. If you have any further questions just drop me a note. Via Con Dios.

==Happy Thanksgiving==
Hope you're eating well :) regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:26, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==U.S. Marshals snaps==
I have U.S. Marshals on DVD, would you like me to replace your AVI shots with my DVD shot sometime? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 07:04, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==You're very welcome==
Yes, the lack of a good USAS 12 shotgun really bugged me. Also the inaccurate history of the gun (as seen on many internet sites) also bugged me. I was there and in the middle of all that political BS in the early 1990s and I remember everything, since it affected me directly. As for the new photos ... That's why I do it! hahahahah. I think IMFDB has the best USAS-12 photo on the net right now ;) I hope you also liked the new Makarov pic (I hated the old one), and the new Glock 17L. Also I 'think' we have the only good shots of the HK 512 autoshotgun on the net as well. Hope you had a great thanksgiving. I'm still working on the pics, but I've taken well over 200 custom gun photographs so far. And it looks like I have a long way to go.

Have you seen the pics of guns at Securityarms.org? Ugh! Poor guys. They have the biggest library of gun pics on the planet so far, but their quality is so bad (and lots of their guns are in really WEIRD configurations).

I screwed up on the XM177-E2 pic (I'm so mad at myself). I put the A1 style upper on an SP1 lower which is wrong. I had the SP1 lower all ready for the original XM17 pic and in a state of confusion, I assembled the E2 upper to the wrong lower. Also I have an original XM177 barreled upper ... and I can't FIND IT! Argh! It's somewhere in the piles and piles and piles of guns and gun parts. I just can't remember where I put it.

Also I'm having a hard time photographing Chrome nickel guns. I tried to photograph a nickel plated Colt Highwaypatrolman and a Colt Single Action Army (with ivory grips), but these guns are nearly 'mirror' finish and the pics look like crap. It's hard to light something that is so shiny and reflective. I'm going to get a special product soft box (the kind they use to photograph silver, platinum and gold jewelry) so that I don't see my own reflection in the item.

I'm trying to get some of the items which I don't have, but it's tough. Thanks for the compliments on Ultraviolet. There's just so much work to do on the site.

Question, how do you guys see how many views an image or page has? Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:25, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail==
Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. '''It's a bottle with gasoline in it.''' It's not '''manufactured or crafted''', like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.

Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.

Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.

Since the page was made and effort was put into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== [[Full Metal Panic]] ==

What do you think of what I've done recently with this page?

==Do these help?==
I was tempted to overwrite the existing pics with these. Let me know if you think I should. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:38, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:M1921Thompson.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1921 Thompson]]
[[Image:M1928.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1928 "OverStamped" Auto Ordnance Thompson (this one is a real beat up one)]]
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Military contract Thompson with Stick magazine and simplified Rear sight]]
[[Image:M1928A1Drum.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 with a Drum magazine]]
(edit: Just added this M1928A1 with a drum. I will probably over write the existing gun pics)

==WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?==
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.

The page on IMDFB.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi

Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode)
http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf

Your thoughts are appreciated.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

::EDIT: I think we should adopt the same rule as IMDB. Or actually, if the title is nowhere to be found on IMDB, that means it is not a recognized title that has been released to the general public, thus it will NOT appear on IMFDB. Members can appeal these decision by posting an IMDB link. I think that's the only was to keep these 'amateur films' (no matter how cool or talented they are), from taking over the Site. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

==The much needed FAQ or RULES for the site==
Hope we get that FAQ (actually it should be RULES for the site) done quick. I've noticed young foreign members who are posting bootleg images (the danger is from foreign members in Asia and Eastern Europe). I work in the movie biz and that's a SUREFIRE way to get the studio lawyers laser beam aimed right at US. We should prohibit screencaps from films which have NOT been released yet, immediately. The '''exception''' are those images which are taken from publicly disseminated marketing images (like production stills, or marketing images that have already been released to the public) or Screengrabs from already released trailers (like I did for Body of Lies, Defiance, and Valkyrie). These images are from public released materials, like high def trailers, and thus are not taken from a bootleg copy of the movie. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

: Kin93 is a young user from Hong Kong. 93 refers to 1993, the year he was born, which makes him 15. He may not realize that it's just not Kosher to put images from DVDs which 'may' be available in the notorious bootleg market of CHINA, but is not acceptable and illegal here in the U.S. I am going to give him a chance to respond. It may be some other film that he has mis-titled. But if we can determine definitely that these are screengrabs from the 2009 release film Tunnel Rats, then they should be deleted, with apologies sent to the OP, with a gentle warning that we don't tolerate Bootleg images. I will give him some time to let me know what it is what I think it is. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:10, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Re: 15 yr olds. I don't want to sound like I am bashing 15 yr olds. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] is an exception. For one, he is far more mature, literate, informed and world wise than 99.99% of 15 yr olds in general. But he is the rare exception. A lot of 'kids' mean well, but need to have it explained to them what is or is not appropriate. Actually MOST of the young adults who post on THIS site are literate, reasoned and mature, far more than their peers who post on other sites. Perhaps it says something about the TYPE of person who has interest in these sort of things. Anyway, I will still watch the new members carefully..... (BTW: It just hit me, I'm as OLD as most of the Admins' DADS .... but I'm probably more fun :) hahahaha). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:28, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

::I do agree with the fact we should prohibit and make sure people understand that we have to understand the fact that we can't post images of movies unreleased on DVD no matter how high quality they might be as some I've found. And Gunmaster, you're 15, so I don't think you would bash your own age group. I don't remember what it was like being that age. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer.

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== I hesitated ==

I hesistated as well when I looked at my Pineapple express page because I actually did real work to screencap it, even though it was from a pretty good quality bootleg, but that doesn't excuse the fact I used bootlegged images. It cheapens the quality of this site if we do that. That's why when I get images for TV series, I try to get the highest quality as possible. I didn't hesitated in deleting the images from Tunnel Rat even if it isn't my work and someone else's, but when I did that, I deleted the images from Pineapple Express. It needs to be done. Which is why someone needs to tell this guy who's so much of a fan of flash animation to stop putting stuff like that on this site. It doesn't deserve to be here. Anime deserves to be here, the kind of anime where you can see who detail they did on their guns, not this cheapo internet flash thing you can find anywhere from Newgrounds. Flash animation crosses a line and insults this site. It must not be allowed to be here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== DVD rips ==

Even dvd rips have their limits. You can really tell from the offical stuff and something someone ripped off a DVD. It's better to just rent it from official sources. And do you think we overdid it with Don and used him as an example like that. I mean, this is a free form wiki like site. Odds are there will be others who won't read rules and ignore and we have to start this all over again.

[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:43, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== We got another one ==

I just found another one. It's called Madness. Yeah how approperate. Putting flash animation here is madness. Cause this is IMFDB.

[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Hard work ==

And a very nice work, your Hard Target is. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:26, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

:Good guess. We wear the woodland and desert DPM half and half. You think wearing desert in the middle of winter isn't smart, but that color blends really good in the snow and tree. The guy who founded the team's British. Born in Singapore, raised in England and former paratrooper. I think after college here, he's going back for another tour. The guy's kinda hardcore about what guns we arm ourselves with. We don't go for anything that the British or SAS hasn't used. It keeps our weapon uniformed and easy to change out parts and magazines. Also the reason other than ego I think for the British camo is because everyone in the US obviously goes for the typical kinds of camo and we've yet to encounter a team that has a similiar kit like us. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

:Yes that is the reason how I came across Ultimate Force. It is an awesome show, but had a run of bad luck when it comes to casting and renewals. It reminded me of the show The Unit, which for all intents and purposes is the US equivalent to Ultimate Force, but the difference is that it had more episodes, but why I don't like about The Unit which was half the show is all about the wives and family drama. Ultimate Force showed almost none of that and more action. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

==You psychic? hahaha==
I put up a pic and you comment on it within 90 seconds... hahaha First the Type 84 and now this. Is there an alarm on your computer whenever I post a gun pic? :) Thanks for the compliments. I wish I had a better pic of the Valmet. I was counting on getting shots of Syd Stembridge's guns, but he sold all of his Valmets to Long Mountain Outfitters. I don't think I know of anyone who has the most important variant, the M78/83 (the version with the black synthetic thumbhole stock). I have a broken M78 (and I mean ready for the scrap pile) with a fake thumbhole stock that was carved out of plywood!!!!! Ugh! Boy it looks bad. But I had the semi auto only M78 gun as a stunt weapon since the receiver was previously crushed slightly inward by the previous owner and it's not worth it to repair the fractures in the sides.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==Stripes page==
So I finally did a Stripes page. Just got sick of having no page for that movie. :) .[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==Water marks==
I am seriously considering some sort of copyright listing (or at least some clear wording at the comments section) of each custom gun pic I photograph. I suppose I should be wary of pirates just lifting the custom content clear out of the blue. After, a lot of IMFDB's gun pics are someone else's content. My goal is to replace all of IMFDB's gun pics with original images that clearly belong to IMFDB so there is no copyright issue with anyone else..[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==There you go again===
hahahaha. I post a pic, and less than 90 seconds later, I get a comment from you! You have Jedi mind powers?!? :) hahahaha. How do you know when I've posted a pic? :) re: the gun, I had it in one of my PICS folders that I haven't looked at since August. That folder has pics I scored from armorer buddies and I remember someone mentioning that the rack I was poking around had the guns from Air Force One. Since I wasn't near any AKs or pistols, I just remember thinking, oh, "these must be the MP5s from the flick". But then a lot of people I know make off the cuff remarks and then don't remember making them at all later, so who knows? Again that was six months ago, and I had since forgotten about the whole affair until I ran across this image. I could ask again, but Remember, I sometimes annoy my peers when I bug them about photographing specific movie guns. So I must tread lightly. ;) I 'believe' they are from AFO but I wouldn't swear an oath on it. :) Hope that doesn't ruin the image for you. ;) hahahaha.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:51, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

==[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008 images]]==
I found [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 9mm [[Heckler & Koch UMP|UMP]] image on [[http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg16-e.htm]] but if I have permission to upload my image on the [[Heckler & Koch UMP|UMP]] page I think it would make the [[Heckler & Koch UMP|UMP]] page much better. I just uploaded a USC image on the [[Heckler & Koch UMP|UMP]] page and it already looks good.

==I guess it was inevitable==
Getting more and more requests for pics or .... discovering that people are just jacking the images in general. I found a local gun store who jacked some of my images for their inventory page. They had the gall to actually put their own copyright on the image. Anyway I was dealing with that, but I guess it's inevitable. I've electronically tagged the images now with copyright info. Regardless of what they do to the pic, certain software can positively ID it as mine. Professional photographers and professional artists are starting to really police the net when it comes to people stealing their stuff. Some kid posting the pic on his "guns I like " page is innocuous. Some business owner posting the images in his catalogue and then marking them as his copyright is actionable. What makes it a little harder is that IMFDB has jacked it's own images from others. I see new members lifting pics (and sometimes text) whole from other sites, which is irritating since some of them still jack images for guns we already have LEGAL pics of. Just so you know, :) I will try to keep doing what I am doing until the entire site has exclusive content and we won't have to 'jack' anyone else's images. I know that's impossible, but I will try to get as close as I can.

I also have had some other folks polite enough to request usage rights (which is good nettiquette and shows that at least they are honest), but I'm still not willing at this point to give anyone permission outside of IMFDB. Hope you understand my thinking and if you have any advice please let me know.

As far as the Wiki guy. I posted the flip side of the gun he wanted. What do you think? I wanted some input before I let him have this one. Is the courtesy notice too much?
[[Image:CetmeAmeliIMFDBVer2.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Cetme Ameli - Courtesy of IMFDB.org - 5.56mm]]

:Excellent photograph. The watermark, though not favoured on Wikipedia, is fine. It is your property after all. My only qualm would be the label on the right side. The image will be placed in an infobox with a caption, making it redundant. Cheers. [[Special:Contributions/99.232.226.200|99.232.226.200]] 14:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

==New Pics==
I replaced the USP 45 with an exclusive pic... ;)
[[Image:HK-USP.jpg‎|thumb|none|250px|HK USP - .45acp]]
Check out this pic. FNC sporter (the semi auto rifle imported into the U.S. all throughout the 1980s and the most common weapon in movie armories).
[[Image:FNC REM Sporter.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|FNC Sporter - 5.56mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 17:33, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

==Other forums==
: ''"I know people have been talking about IMFDB and its images on quite a few gun forums, but I had no clue anybody would have the audacity to take your images and claim them as their own!"''
Do you know of any gun forums that discuss IMFDB in regards to our photos? I've been checking to see if we created any sort of buzz for months and I've found nothing. If you would be so kind, I would really appreciate some links to some of these forums. Are we being bashed or praised. ;) You have piqued my curiosity. I know you try to promote the site but I sure would like to see the general perception from others in other forums. Thanks and best regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:12, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

==''The Park is Mine'' Machine Gun==

I'm pretty certain it's an [[MG42]] machine gun Mitch is using at the climax of ''[[The Park is Mine]]''. The rounds in the spare ammo belt he's carrying look too long to be 7.62x51mm NATO rounds as used by the [[MG42#MG3|MG3]] (which are shorter in comparison to the 7.92x57mm Mauser cartridge). Plus as pointed out by MPM2008, an MG42 would make more sense in the context of the film. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 13:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

==Got it, finally :)==
[[Image:AKMSPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS Custom - 7.62x39mm]]
Now I will be updating with this pic. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:11, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

==auto 9==
glad you liked the new pic. I'm trying now to get more specific movie guns, rather than classic examples of the gun types. That particular 93R was a rebuild from a damaged one that exploded back in the early 1990s. I have no idea where the Robo parts came from. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:27, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Un-released movies ==

Let us say I were to have access to a film which had not been released into theatres yet. Let us further say there were firearms in the film. Would it be frowned upon if I were to create a page for the movie?
[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 21:48, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Duplicate Page ==

An anonymous user created a duplicate page of the HK 416 just a few minutes ago. I will leave you and the other admins to deal with it, but I just wanted to let you know. [[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]] 22:09, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

==24==
I didn't put that entry in for Sutherland. I was just correcting the spelling of his name[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:51, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Gunner313==
The Remington 700 pic of Swagger cycling out a blank round is the blu-ray shot from Legions of Fate's website. I had literally just been looking at it before I noticed on here. It says on the image that he uploaded it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
: I'm replacing the shot on Heat of the Ruger KP90 now, since that is from Legions of Fate's website as well. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Lord of War==
Would you mind if in the near future if I added screencaps to [[Lord of War]]? I was watching it and noticed you missed a few things on the page. Plus it's the two disc with commentary and special feattures so I could add extra information. I wouldn't be able to do it right now but it would be on my list right after [[Get Smart]]. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:I'm glad you noticed I've been cutting down on the screenshots. >:( You didn't add shots of those Vz 58 rifles in the arsenal, which according to the director were 2000 real guns rented by an arms dealer for the days of shooting, because it was cheaper to rent real guns than fake ones.

You also just missed a few shots that would be considered great on the site. I had no intention of muddling up the page with 20 screencaps. I try not to do that unless I feel it necessary.

IMO, adding a lot of screencaps is not being messy, it is being thorough. I show different users at different parts of the film. Since we have gun pages and actor pages which list these users, some proof helps. Last Man Standing was my one mistake, don't hold that against me.

But you have your opinions and I have mine. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Do you think I was too harsh on KIN93?==
Curious to know your thoughts. I was pretty stern when I warned against uploading obvious Bootlegs on the [[Defiance]] page. I also didn't buy his explanation that the movie [[Tunnel Rats]] has been seen in theaters in Europe already. Having been released in theaters is a big difference than having been released on DVD. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:32, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Jericho story is too questionable ==

Knowing some about government, military and control, I find it hard to believe with some of the stuff that happened. I mean sure the nuclear attack is one thing and ppl's shock and awe of it and maybe even the highways have turned into Road Warriors world, but this Allied States of America. In mere months, a new government was formed, with a new flag that's been printed everywhere in fabric, new currency and the loyalties of military when there is still a United States of America on the east side? It just seems...too weird. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for getting rid of the unneeded M4 picture, I didn't want it up there much either. I think it was an airsoft gun too because I looked up the image name and found it on a airsoft forum. Once again, thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree, if we got pictures of every configuration an M4 can be in, we would have tons. But anyway I think the three M4s we have are already good enough, and it shouldn't matter what the configuration is. I disliked the picture becaused it looked bad next to the other three, and it was unneccessarily large, I mean 25% of the picture was the M4, and 75% was the rug it was laying on. And once again, thanks, and great work on The Beast screengrabs by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:18, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for helping with my Sopranos page, I've been trying to screencap in each episode I watch. Also, thanks for helping with the "non gun" they used in the third season, it had me wondering for sure - good find! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== A little help ==

I just started my [[Police Story 3: Supercop]] page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question About Bond Actor Category ==

I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, [[Halle Berry]] & [[Honor Blackman]]) and villians (such as [[Robert Carlyle]] & [[Gert Fröbe]])? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

==You around?==
Or is life just kicking your butt? :) Well I have a slow month right now, but it could kick into high gear any moment. As soon as I'm on a location or working my butt off for a movie shoot, i'm outta here for a least a few weeks (or months). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

==The Departed==
I read what you had to change on [[The Departed]] page. I really hate some anonymous users. Should we block him or just warn him (I'd just block him since if he is willing to write this, it is obvious he doesn't care about being punished). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Thanks, what were you in DC for. The inaguration? Everyone has been talking about how much they hate Obama in my school. I refuse to say such a thing until I actually see what he does. Biden on the other hand, can go suck dick and die (excuse the term), I know what he's done before and hate him with every fiber of my being. Anyway, hope you enjoyed you stay. Glad to see your back. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::P.S. I'm adding season two of Mail Cal now. I'm surprised to see how no one attempt to ID the unknowns at the bottom of the page though.
:Maybe not forever. Who knows, in four years, we could have Tom Selleck as our president for all we know. :) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Kiraly 39M/43M Submachine Gun==

I recently stumbled on this article on this site and something about it struck me as a little odd. In addition to the wording a diagram of the operating system of the weapon was included which seemed really familiar. I checked and, sure enough, the whole article, word for word and picture for picture had been directly lifted from http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg104-e.htm . This is the most blatant example of plagarism I have seen on this site. I contacted you because, as an Admin and as far as I know, you monitor such things. - [[Charon68]]

==Glock 19 and welcome back from Liberal land==
Why I hope you didn't drink the kool-aid and start having that glassy eyed almost religious fanaticism that I saw on the television about the 'regal coronation ceremony'.......
I don't usually spend the time on fixing pics when I intent to photograph a real gun of that type. I fixed pics like the Ukranian FORT-12 because no way in hell am I going to get a 9x18mm Ukranian Fort 12 pistol any time soon. But when I have the time, which I haven't, I try to reshoot photos of the guns. I have a stack of guns right now that I'm supposed to photograph, but the actual time it takes to stop everyone, and set up the lighting and do the photography takes about 2-6 hours out of a day, which is a bit of a hassle. But I fully intent to photograph one of those 1st gen 19s when I get a chance. Good to have you back. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:07, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

==Okay you talked me into it==
Since the Glock 19 I was going to photograph, I can't find. I relented and fixed your pic. Whatcha think? Edit: I will delete this image and reload over the other one. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:45, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Glock19Pic.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 19 - 9mm]]
PS also on the Type 56C custom. There are several guns floating around. The one in Rambo and Pineapple express have a barrel that looks to be about an inch or two longer than the one in T3. Also there's the one in True Lies that's REALLY cut down. I was bummed when I took a hard look at the pics on the movie pages. I should have photographed more AK pistols when I had the chance but I thought they all had the same barrel length. Oh well. Will try to fix this in the future.

== Bourne AR-15s ==

Thanks for the quick note about the AR-15s used in ''[[The Bourne Identity (2002)]]''. I found what you had to say pretty interesting, so I'm going to post it to the page (giving you credit of course) and you can leave it or delete it as you wish. Should I link it to the M16 page, but credit the gun as an AR-15? (I'm not sure where to find the AR-15 page) - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Also thanks for helping out with some of the other screencaps (the Tauruses, etc.) I could try and get a picture of Conklin's gun but I don't think it was on screen enough to get a clear enough image. You're right about the PP, though, it does resemble one more than a P5C for sure. Thanks for the help. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Live Free or Die Hard ==

Hey Matt if you need confirmation on the SBR Mark 12 they have them. I worked on these guns for [[Live Free or Die Hard]]. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== The Shadow ==

Not A problem to the addition of the interview. That was the first film I worked on it was quite eye opening. The [[Titanic]] photo was from the auction and Syd had a copy so I just cleaned it up. The funny thing is I don't even have a DVD of the movie to get screen captures off of. I will check on the SBR and see if they are in. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Bourne Supremacy ==

Thanks for the help on the page. I definitely wasn't sure about the sniper rifle. I really bit my lip saying it was the WA 2000, but I checked a few other online forums and some other people said it, so I was figuring maybe it was some variant. But if you say it's not, then it most probably isn't. I'll work on getting better shots of the G36/SL8 and the P99 as well. I appreciate your help, thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:The more I look at that Keppeler & Fritz, the more I'm convinced that that's the one. Good find! I'll get to work on those other shots as soon as I can and if you want I can drop you a message once they're up? Also a heads up - I'll probably be working on ''Ultimatum'' (maybe tomorrow night), but that looks like it doesn't need quite as much work. If you have any input, I'd greatly appreciate it, you've been a tremendous help with the others. Thanks - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Okay, you can check both pages now. I added a few extra shots (maybe a little too many, but I wanted to make sure identification would be easier for us). - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Ultimate force revamped ==

So how do you like what I did to the Ultimate Force page? It's not finished since I still need to watch the rest of the series, but working on it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:01, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

::I just started downloading season 3 and won't get season 4 until a few days. And yeah, I have seen the series a couple times over. A friend of mine had it all, but I never asked him for it. I've downloaded the episodes before, but deleted them for space on my computer and that was before I was on this site. This is a very good series and I really liked it. I wished they made more of this. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:06, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm downloading season 4 right now. Hopefully will get it by the end of the week. I've been making additions, so can you take a look [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:27, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

:The few things I wish this series had was up to date M16s and M4s, or at least the British equalivent of those. I guess their armorers weren't equiped with the latest stuff. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

::But 500 isn't that big to me. It seems just right. To me, your pics are small. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

::Oh and don't get me started on the episode in season 4 where we see how the show portrays the US military when Red Troop goes on a joint op with them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 07:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I'll do it. I just forgot last night since I was tired and my internet was faulty. Besides, I still got a couple of the unknowns that needs to be ID [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

:Not fat an incompentants, but hot heads, arrogant, and cowboys. One even has sunglasses and speaking in a semi-southern accent, another guy said "Ya'll" and another guy's chewing on a toothpick. The "US military" that appeared on the show were supposed to be Green Berets. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

:Oh yeah, one of them is a racist [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

::Going on the topic on how this show portrayed Americans, the episode after the US Spec Ops/SAS Joint mission episode, we see a kid on a double decker bus with his parents, obviously from America and pretty much is interjecting everytime the tour guide speaks. The idea behind this kid seems as if he thinks America is the best country in the world kind of personality. Nothing wrong with that, I think the US is the greatest nation in the world, one of the most powerful, etc, but I don't blah my mouth off on it all day long, and if I was in a foriegn country like England, I certainly wouldn't waste my breath to let the entire bus know how prideful of my country I am. Makes you wish this kid got shot in the episode. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

:There still are a couple guns I need help IDing. If you can give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 08:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

:If only they didn't get rid of Jamie and Caroline. They were good characters. Jem and Ricky were my other favorites because of the humor I get from them. In the first 2 seasons, Caroline saw combat, even though she was a trooper. Why couldn't they do that with Becca when they introduced her in season 3? All she had to do was replace Caroline's job. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:15, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

==Usable pic?==
I was tempted to reshoot this on a pintle mount so that I can get closer to the gun. Let me know if this format is preferable. I am still tempted to reshoot some of the Aircraft guns much closer so that we see more of the gun and less of the mount. I had to shoot it in the warehouse and digitally wipe out everything else with white (what a pain!) since I was alone and this sucker was TOO heavy to lift by myself! ;)
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Browning M2HB on Tripod Mount - .50 BMG]]
best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW: I need a photo wish list again, so please let me know which guns you really want to see a good pic of :) I will try to track them down for pics. :)

==Help on Alex Reid==
I have a bunch of screencaps of British Actress Alex Reid using or holding guns in other films and was going to create an actor page for her. But I have never seen Ultimate Force. Does she, playing the character ''Captain Caroline Walshe'', use any guns in the show Ultimate Force?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

PS thanks for the input of on the M2. I have another one in the safe, but the barrel is off and i have to install the barrel myself (gun with barrel is around 99 lbs) Again it's more than one person can do easily. I need a wish list, I may see Mike Papac at Cinema Weaponry soon. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Beretta M9 ==

You're right about the M9, there are some other minor differences in the frame, but nothing too important. It was a stupid thing to ask for, as you said, they're are more important things the site needs. I told MPM2008 to scrap it from his wishlist. Best regards--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:24, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Wikipedia pirate==
Koalorka who contacted me before, graciously alerted me as to some guy uploading my pics as his. Since Wikipedia is pretty good about pirated images, especially when the author complains, they take them down. Are you a wiki member? I was just curious if you knew the protocols. Thanks.

Check out these images on Wikipedia.... Look familiar?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20090124031005&target=Josh+Woolstenhulme

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/M1_Garand.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/M1903Mark1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/AKMRifle.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/SMLE.jpg

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:21, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

==Alex Reid==
Thanks so much on helping with Alex Reid! :) I screencapped her movie "Arachnid" and are just preparing the images for upload and wanted to make an ACTOR page for her. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

==Out of town starting late tonight==
Am going on location and meeting with a director and television executive for the standard business stuff, but I will be traveling between midnight tonight and Tuesday, so I will be offline until then. So if I don't answer a question right away, it's because I'm in a meeting or on location. Thanks. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:47, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Out of town starting late tonight==
Am going on location and meeting with a director and television executive for the standard business stuff, but I will be traveling between midnight tonight and Tuesday, so I will be offline until then. So if I don't answer a question right away, it's because I'm in a meeting or on location. Thanks. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:47, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Hitman==
I had Hitman in my box of to do movies but I forgot to add it to my list. I'll let you do it though because you went through the trouble of buying it. Also, check the special feattures because they have an armorer show off the guns in the film. He is without a doubt the dumbest armorer alive and you see him shoot blank guns (with a side frame box showing the rounds hit things). It is horrible to watch. But some of the guns in the movie are hard to catch (like the FN F2000s are only visible for a few seconds). And by all means remove those other images, yours will beat any of the ones on the page now. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I have the two disc unrated which means I have an extra disc for a digital copy (which is pretty useless to me, but it does have special feattures, I'll probably add shots then). By all means keep the publicity photos (Olyphant pointing the P-18 at the screen is the best), but some aren't necessary (like the FBI guy with his USP, which was likely found on google. Some of these look like crap on a page but that first shot is really crystal clear). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I almost forgot, I'm going to upload Windtalkers soon. While some might find this weird, for my cat's burial yesterday, I fired seven blanks through my Mini-14, like a military/police funeral. Obviously she wasn't in any service but it made my mom happy, since both her mom and dad were in the marines and got similair services. It was a lot for a cat but she was a good cat and I've had her a long time. Anyway, I did a decent job of keeping the screencaps low for Windtalkers, but sometimes, too many great shots are present. Highest I got to is nine. Then I'll get [[Shoot 'Em Up]] done. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== More Airsoft ==

So what do you think of my new pictures I got in my profile. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:40, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

==Check these out :) ==
[[Image:KimberCustomIISWAT_Jackson.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Custom Kimber TLE II pistol with Surefire light - this is the exact pistol used by the team in the movie ''[[SWAT]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:SIGP220R LiveFreeDieHard.jpg|thumb|none|500px|This is the screen used SIG P220R used by Bruce Willis in the movie ''[[Live Free and Die Hard]]''. This one is Bruce Willis's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him and fired by him)]]
[[Image:StarBNickelPulpFiction.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nickel plated STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[Pulp Fiction]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:StarBUntouchablesScreenGun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Blued STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[The Untouchables (1987)]]''. This one is a screen used and fired handgun in the movie and was used by Kevin Costner on screen. ''Normally on generic guns I retouch out big scratches on the finish, but this is an original piece used in the film and the scratches are what identify it as authentic to people who know what Costner was firing.'']]

I got tons more, but I have to clean up the pics....
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Check out Gunmaster45's talk page==
And you'll the guns from "the Quick and the Dead" that I sent to him ;) I will be trying to get nearly all the weapons in that movie. Some are long gone (one was stolen off the set) and the others are in private collections (like famous producers), but I am trying hard. Hope you guys like the image quality. I'm not fond of LMO's pics and I always think I can take better pics of the guns than they did (but then I also work hard in post production to clean up the shot). best regards

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==More pics==
[[Image:S&W5906LateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Vincent's Smith & Wesson 5906 from ''[[Collateral]]'' - 9mm. This is a screen used gun. Note the late model 5906 pistols have the rounded trigger guard. ]]
[[Image:S&W5906EarlyModel.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|400px|Early Model Smith & Wesson 5906 - 9mm. The early model 5906 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but they changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]
[[Image:S&W5904LateModel.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]

These others were also screen used, but I need to recheck and verify what. BTW, I do 'scramble' the serial numbers (in Photoshop) when they are visible so that nosy people can't track down the original SN for the movie gun. I have TONS more pics, but I don't want to sit here all night. I have another gig to go to :) I also replaced the TEC-9 image with a good one and will be replacing a bunch more. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Hitman Special Feattures==
I'm saving shots for Hitman now. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Mixed up berettas==
you know you may be right, or the tags in the case might be on the wrong guns. I will call the "curator" tomorrow and double check. Figures, I usually take a photo of the ID tag on the gun, but I didn't have time so I didn't on all of the premiere Hollywood Hero guns. And they also had "short hand". I think I may have mentally confused DH 2-3-4 with LW2-3-4. I have to double check that. I made over 30 images updates last night, new P9S, New Model 19 from Lethal Weapon, I replaced the old images on the AMT longslide and AMT 5", New Para Ordnance P14, New Kimber TLE II, Added the Beretta 92S and 92SB, added a remington 1100 tactical, replaced the S&W 586, added the screen used S&W 3913 from Demolition Man, added the early S&W 5904, etc. When I have that much stuff, I might get some stuff mixed up. THANKS for the eagle eyes! I will double check based on your excellent observations!. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:56, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==You're right, I screwed up==
I did find ONE of my snapshots of the case and found this. I mixed up a bunch of the berettas, ARGHH!!! I have to double check all of them again.
[[Image:DisplayCase01.jpg|thumb|none|700px]]
This is a snap I usually do to double check my work. Note that the extended 92F I had was actually the Demolition Man gun, not the LH gun. I did snap a shot of the LH gun, but now I have to find it. THANKS for the eagle eyes! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:10, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==Checks==
That's Stembridge's display case. Yes, they're back. Syd only sold off all of his full auto stuff, his western and pre-1945 stuff. But his handguns and post 1945 long guns are still around. '''Also I would prefer to check with Mike myself. ''' Don't want to step on his toes for verification, because Steve (like 99% of us) doesn't have this stuff memorized, and he will have to call Mike anyway, so I would rather do it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:51, 8 February 2009 (UTC) But Mike helped me with a bunch of stuff. When the pic is a generic image of a particular gun, I usually just photograph my OWN inventory. But he has some really interesting hero guns. As for multiple guns, most of the time there are FOUR guns, 1 primary, 1 backup, and 2 extra for catastrophic emergencies. If there are no malfunctions, the actor would use the same gun for the entire shoot (why put so much wear and tear on other handguns unless necessary?) Also most of the time, any custom modifications are REMOVED and either the gun is put back to stock configuration or is customized for yet another movie. These single guns are the only ones left and have been removed from active inventory primarily due to their historical Hollywood pedigrees.

On another note: I will be the only guy left on the west coast with an HK94 in the original DieHard configuration. Cinema Weaponry bought the remaining stock of full auto HK94 conversions and refurbished them to complete MP5 specs, so that now they all look indistinguishable from factory MP5s (Plastic lowers, three lug barrels, paddle mag release, etc.) So now there are only factory stock looking MP5s in the movies, however, ALOT of them in films are still those HK94 conversions, but now we can't tell visually if they are or not. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:51, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

==Response==
Just wanted to make sure you understood that I intend to ask Mike on Monday and I did NOT want you bugging Steve about something that only Mike would know for sure. Just wanted to make that clear :) being that I seem to be unclear in the past. :) Anyway, since I wasn't sure if you understood my request. Thanks again.

'':But I forget...didn't Syd Stembridge basically take all of his remaining assets to Cinema Weaponry? I've been under the impression that Stembridge and CW essentially merged with each other after Stembridge closed down in '99. So aren't the guns that Syd kept now in Mike's hands? ''

The company location belongs to both and the building is '''Stembridge Gun Rentals/Cinema Weaponry'''. Syd still has a sizeable collection that belongs to him and not Mike, and they both share the building. But a majority of the guns belongs to CW, and 99% of the full auto guns. So yes and no. Syd has his own office and section so I tend to recognize him as his own entity. Since he sold off most of his stuff in 99, a lot of folks have just assumed he is gone for good. Except for the newer stuff, the majority of the guns in the cases were Stembridge rentals back in the day.

'': And yes, I imagine Mike must have a lot of cool stuff to photograph. One other thing you should ask about...remember the H&K G11 from Demolition Man? If you can at least get the story on where that gun came from, that would be awesome. I've always wondered...did they build it themselves? ''

Remember that ''HK thinks we suck and they hate us''..... ;) I tried to get a photograph of that very gun when Demolition Man was being filmed, and HK had this incredible insane "Lawyers from hell" contract that only in the context of the production could anyone even photograph the gun. I tried to get a pic (since there are NO good pics of this stupid gun) years ago and the people who had it were contractually bound NOT to let me photograph it. I will ask around, but there was only ONE real sample floating around that I knew about in the film industry.

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==Okay, I'm confused but here it is==
After a lengthy conversation with the original Die Hard Armorer (there were several guys on set usually but Mike was the lead who (at the time) rented from Syd)) he said several times the following: (a) He seems to think that the Beretta Pistol with the tag (on the table) with no ID plate (the one that is EXTRA beat up and has no extended mag button or slide release) IS the one from DH1 and LW1. (b) all the guns for Bruce in his movies were also used by Mel in his movies, so the same guns jumped back and forth between productions, but if it's a Beretta used by John McClane , then it's the same gun used by Martin Riggs. (c) Mike recalls that he didn't install the extended mag release button and slide release until the second movie (d) I was wrong on the DH lineage. It's meant to be the LW lineage, so the beretta did not appear in Die Hard 2 or 3 or 4, but instead appeared in Lethal Weapon 2 and 3 and 4. John McClane used the same beretta until 4 and since the original grouping had been retired, the berettas that appeared were generic ones like mine. So he is pretty sure that the beat up gun IS the original DH1 and LW1 Pistol (as well as LH2-3-4). The DH2 pistol/Demolition Man pistol is correct, according to the armorer. So i didn't mix them up, which mystifies me. I will take some screen caps to the shop some other day and see again .... but I'm not in the habit of challenging the guy who owns the gun , hahahahaha. :)

==Wanna hear something wild?==
I MAY have an opportunity to go overseas (France) and I will try to photograph some of Christophe Maratier's guns (Leon/Ronin/LaFemme Nikita/District B13/Taken/etc) I would like to also go picture taking in Britain at Bapty's or Sascha Robey's collection, but who knows? I don't have a connection/introduction yet with those guys. And with all the retarded gun restrictions going on over there......

==Stuff==
''Dan Shea went to Bapty's back in 2003 (I think) and they let him photograph a lot of their guns (which appear on LMO's site)''
Yeah, but WHO is the better photographer? ;) hahahaha. Seriously, I really work hard on the pics even after I take them and right now I'm sure that IMFDB has the best gun pics on the net. I was thinking of doing an actual table top book with the pics (including a bunch of other angles that I did not upload). As per the Berettas, I will take your screenshot to the shop the next time I'm there and try to (gently) reverify the history of the pieces. Either that or I'll say "MT2008 says you're full of SHIT!" heheheh. Those were done 23 years ago and we're all doing this from recollection. I think that's WHY I'm so intent on getting the historical images done with the pages complete. We're all getting older and who knows? Movie weaponry is a facet of movie history that has been neglected until now. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:07, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

==Pages==
Notice how we're still getting new pages with next to no input? Sure some of these guys put in the OBSCURE foreign film with ONE gun entry. They don't even bother to grab the poster and put it in or try to get any screengrabs. Screengrabs I can forgive, but not even the poster? (which is easy to google). I'm gonna stop trying to help these pages and just delete them until someone is ready to start actually working on the page. I haven't seen a lot of these films and have no way (other than ordering them from Amazon in Europe which I don't want to do). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:07, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

==Movie guns==
As per NYC armorers, Mike bought a bunch of guns at auction from the east coast. Only armorers buy the heavily blank adapted guns from other armorers. They're pretty useless except as frames to any other gun person. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

==Arachnid==
::Sorry for blowing iup at you. It was just the initial shock of NOT saving my work for an hour (stupid me) and then having the system deny my edits because of an 'edit conflict'. I'm all better now :) You were right. I checked back in the browser logs and found a version that was pretty close to the one I was trying to save, so I mass uploaded it. I was only freaked out because it was literally a few seconds between the "preview" and the "save" that the conflict in edits occurred. Talk about bad timing :) Anyway, I knew if I walked away from the computer for a little bit I could think more clearly and figure out a way to restore the work (or at least most of it). Sorry again. It was an innocent action, not your fault at all. It was just me panickingi because I had done an hour of work and didn't SAVE it, and was thwarted at the last second when I tried... But all is good in the universe . Please accept my apologies. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:10, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

==Chris Potter's mutant hands ;)==
I took another look at him holding the MAC-10 (or MAC-11), but look at the shots of his hands holding the Full sized UZI. That dude has monster hands! What do you think? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:16, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

==SIG or Sig?==
I made this change a long while ago and never got any comments on it. Do you think it is written "SIG-Sauer" or "Sig-Sauer"? Based on the fact people usually write SIG in capital letters because it is a company and Sauer is a maker's name, plus the fact they write it SIG-SAUER on the logo, I made the assumption it was "SIG-Sauer". Was I wrong? I see MPM doesn't always write it this way but I always assumed it was correct. What do you think? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Re: Shit!==
It's okay, you weren't editing the same section as I was. It only creates edit conflict when you edit the same section, so since you didn't edit the Webley, I was able to upload fine. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re: Tomorrow Never Dies ==

Thanks! I wasn't sure about the LAW but Charon68 says he's pretty sure it's a LAW-80 so I used that label. Also, I wasn't sure how to label the fake MP5K-PDWs, so I left the title with the description you gave (an interesting bit of information too). Feel free to make any other corrections, I appreciate the help!! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Oh I don't know how I missed that haha. I changed the title of it to say "Heckler & Koch MP5K (with PDW folding stock)" as well. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Street Kings==
Absolutely, when I screencapped that movie, I had rented it so I was on a very strict deadline and probably missed some stuff. But do me some favors:
*Replace the R9, I'm ashamed to admit the shots are from Legions of Fate's website, I had totally forgot I did this too but I had originally missed this when I screencapped.
*I forgot to upload the screencaps I had of M16s in the police armory and deleted the screencaps before I realized this.

I guess memory failed me with the muzzle flash but please by all means add some shots. Are you using Itunes or a DVD? Because if you use Itunes the pictures will look brighter so if you could somehow darken them with an editor (or I could if you wouldn't mind) so they don't stand out to the other shots, I'd appreciate it. If you do use Itunes, try to see if you can confirm the Korean slaver's shotgun, because I look at it and it kind of looks like an Ithaca, not a Remington. And see if Coates' shotgun is a Mossberg 500 or 590 (it is a dark shot). Thanks. Look for [[3:10 to Yuma (2007)]], I'll have it on soon. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Thanks, the shots look great, I'm still going to test and see if I can darken the shots without ruining the quality but I doubt I'll be able to do anything. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up==
cc:d' to MT2008, GM45, Alienqueen1
I'm heading to another armory to photograph some more long guns this Saturday if all goes as planned. (I'll get a new StG-44 amongst other cool stuff (like a SR-25, all tricked out, etc.) I've been photographing a lot of pistols recently. Since the last group of famous gun pics took an entire day to photograph and multiple days to 'clean up and format' (and put electronic Copyright tagging) on the images. I am also returning to Stembridge/CW to photograph a bunch of their more famous subguns/shortshotguns. I already have permission to photograph the actual McMillan TAC-50 used in S.W.A.T. As far as my own inventory, I still have to rebuild and fix some of MY guns still. I still have an M249 full stock gun that I need to photograph and a Walther MPL that needs fixing. And a bunch of Benelli M3 Super 90s in different configurations :) I want to work some more on the M16 page. If I can't get a real 733 (for example) I will try to build up an exact duplicate of one in the right configuration and then take a pic of it. Some of my older photos of M16 guns (like the 733) were build ups (i.e. just a standard gun with the barrel cut down, and not the exact configuration of the original gun type). I want exact examples of each one so that our M16 page is '''the''' definitive page of M16 types on the net. BTW: I have to go down to CW again and I will try to grab more "the Quick and the Dead" guns ... :) More handguns, especially Sharon Stone's SAA and Russell Crowe's gun (and original holster) and all the original screen used guns from 'Iron Man'. ;) I am also trying to get a ton of more famous screen used western guns for GM45's pages. (I let HIM do the honors on the Western movie pages ;) ) Just a heads up guys! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

==The Boondock Saints==
My screencapping of the film is taking considerabley longer than anticipated, mainly do to the scene in the dealer's armory. I have documented EVERY gun seen in that room, with a red circle over each. It was a great film, but I'm getting a serious head ache from all this. I'm trying to get it all prepared for tommorow, but I don't know if I can. One picture was particularly difficult, I had forgotten to document an M79 launcher, but deleted the image that had it on! Since I don't currently have the DVD to re-screencap, I took another shot (same image, but circling a different gun), and removed the circle with painstaking edits and got the shot. Sometimes this work is tough. You got any movies you plan to do in the future? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I'm so OCD on IDing all the guns I practically scan each scene with my super mind powers. I love TBS, it has some great quotes (littered with cusses, but still worthy of adding in the captions IMO), and so far the hardest armory scene I've done was on [[Commando]], and I didn't circle all of those, I just said what I saw. I'm kinda nerdy, I'm trying to memorize the prayer the brothers say before they kill people. I used to take Latin so I know basic words and could likely translate some of these quotes. Prayers are usually very simple Latin. Same thing with their tatoos. Of all the scenes in that movie, my favorite was probably the scene when Rocco kills the guys in the diner because the way it was shot and the music used just made it perfect. Either that or the shootout in the game room, because intercutting with Decker re-enacting the scene was cool. Seeing Willem Dafoe kiss a guy (passionately) and wearing drag was rather disturbing though. After I finish this movie, I'm going to do the first Matrix movie. Then the mini-series [[Lonesome Dove]]. Then I'll do the other Matrix movies. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== What's up with the screenshot? ==

I just saw the screencap you uploaded of the [[Carl Gustaf M/45]] page and was wondering what's up with it, since I made that page. I'm not mad or anything, just curious as to what's up. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 17:28, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

== Glock Classification ==

I went ahead and added the [[Glock]] page to the Submachine Gun category since the [[Glock#Glock 18|Glock 18]] does technically classify in that category, also we have the [[M16 rifle series]] classified in the SMG and sniper rifle categories for the [[M16 rifle series#Colt 9mm Submachine Gun|Colt 9mm SMG]] and [[M16 rifle series#Mk 12 Special Purpose Rifle|Mk. 12 SPR]], respectively. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 17:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

==Titles starting with 'The' ....==
I am willing to start mass changing titles that start with "The" to the standard nomenclature (used by IMDB) (i.e. instead of '''"The Shining"''' (yeah I know we don't have that movie ...) it would be '''"Shining, The"'''. I can't count how many people have complained to me (in person, not on the net) about that.

I have some famous armorers complaining about that ;) SO I am willing to start changing them myself. Any complaints? Seriously, if any of you are seriously offended by that, I will change them back.... no charge ;) But the last straw was some blog making fun of us because of that. :( So I am going to start changing the titles. Just wanted to give a heads up....

''('''edit:''' I've done nine titles as a test. So far, I like them, but I think you had a cool technique regarding re-directs which would allow the main page to have the fixed titles, but when you click on it, it goes to the original named page. Please let me know if you think that is possible. Other than that, let me know what you think regarding the asthetics of the naming changes. I like it for the listings, better than the previous style.) :)''

Update on the new gun pics....
I started the new photo shoot on Say, but had to cut it short. Will reschedule and complete my massive new gun shoot either tomorrow or the next day. When I have a bunch, I start uploading them. :) But you guys are already bored with guns pics by now.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Title change==
Well we all can disagree on somethings, I've always hated how our listing alphabetized on "the" as a "T". I think that's just stupid, since nearly everyone ignores "The" when looking for a title. Libraries do it, Video stores do it and I get pissed when I look for "The Dark Knight" but instinctively look in the 'D' section and see nothing. I've hated it since I joined the site, but also recently I've shown this site to famous armorers, and when their first comment is "great site, but sorting by "the", that's stupid" was the motivation I had to get off my ass and fix it. Heck, Mike Papac hated it. So I will still change the titles. I think you will find it easier to find movie pages as well. Thanks for your understanding. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== ''In the Army Now'' M16's ==

It's been a while since I've seen this movie and I was recalling what I could from memory, but I could have sworn they used M16A2's in at least some scenes. Hopefully someone will be able to screencap this movie and put the matter to rest. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:13, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==AK issues==
Okay, You're gonna hate me even more, but I was wondering how we can fix the AK issue. We have too many AK variants that are starting to appear and to add them all to the AK page may be confusing since so many are made by different countries (including the US as of recent years). I '''was''' thinking of an original page for only RUSSIAN AK-47 rifles and then all other Russian designs (AK104, etc.) And then a second page for AK-47 - variants (Chinese) and then AK-47 - variants (European). Or something like that. I would like to have a page where we can put the European AK variants (Bulgarian, Hungarian, Romanian, Yugoslavian, etc.)

Anyway here is just me thinking out loud.
1) AK-47 (Russian designs only) 7.62 or 5.56mm only (Recently Russia has been making 5.56 versions of all their guns)
2) AK-47 Variants (Chinese) 7.62 or 5.56mm (All variants including commercial monstrosities like the MAK-90 thumbhole guns)
3) AK-47 Variants (European) 7.62 or 5.56mm (This is where we can start listing the Hungarian, Polish, East German, Bulgarian, Romanian, Yugoslavian variations)
4) AK-74 (Russian Designs only) '''5.45mm''' guns only and all derivations

But it's the preponderance of the Chinese AK clones that are used to impersonate Russian guns in movies, that screws up my 'evil plan'. I know you want all ak variations on one page (like our M16 Page) but the M16 page has all variations made in the U.S. We don't have a dozen other countries making their own custom variations of the M16, like the AK does.

Anyway, I'm not chomping at the bit to do this, but I was wondering where I could start putting entries for the Hungarian, Romanian, or Yugo guns.... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:13, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==RPG in movies==
While I obviously don't have the experiance of MPM, I think the RPGs have special warheads that POP when fired (watch them fire RPGs in [[Black Hawk Down]], the warheads seem to explode instead of launch), or in [[The Dark Knight]], they might fire foam warheads similair to the warhead but it just hits stuff instead of blowing up. And of course the cheapest alternative is to use all CGI.

Check out ''[[The Boondock Saints]]'', I finished it finally and it has 52 guns! No wonder I put it off, I knew that armory was going to kill me. Anyway, I have to go to school tommorow so I'm going to sleep. Ugh, I hate school. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==You might get a kick out of this==
Would YOU want a handgun collection like this? The pistols on the right side belong to Syd Stembridge (he still has some stuff), and the back wall and left wall belong to Mike Papac. (And yes, the boxes on the ground are full, there is no room on the walls left. All the empty slots are for handguns that are either out for repair or out on rental. My own handgun inventory is less than half of theirs, so I'm a small fry compared to these guys. But I thought you'd get a kick out of this pic. A similar pic has been seen in articles in the past about Stembridge Gun Rentals, so it's nice to see that this room still exists, though I need a bigger wide angle lens, I can't get back far enough to even get a fraction of the room. It is massive.
[[Image:HandgunRoom.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|the handgun room]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:53, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==Imagine if you will.......==
Walking down a hallway in a warehouse, from floor to ceiling are wooden cubbyholes, in these cubby holes are jammed multiple items which comprise three specific things (either submachine gun, select fire pistol, or short barreled shotgun). I am not sure how these items are sorted but I don't care, I like it! I LOVE poking around places like this. It make me happy :) I also see some items which I will try to photograph for IMFDB in the future (recognizing some of the stuff that I have on my list to take pics of for some of the specific movie pages). I just needed to cheer myself up after hearing daily news from the new administration! Just thought I'd share it! :)
[[Image:ArmoryWall02.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|Which cubbyhole do you want to stick your hand in first!? ;) ]]
MPM2008

== Hey, thanks for the information. ==

I'm still rather new to the whole wiki thing. This is the first wiki site I've ever contributed too, and I'm still getting used to the way you guys do things. I've built up a few pages now, but I rely on you guys for most of the identification of firearms, I'm not too good at that. If you can, look over the pages I've made and see if you can identify anything. I've built up [[The Deer Hunter]], [[He Was A Quiet Man]], [[American Beauty]], and [[Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels]] since I've come here. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

== Formatting Errors ==

Thanks. I'm still learning. Appreciate the advice. [[User: Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== What? ==

Someone could've been looking for the nail gun for whatever reason. Why'd you delete it? Afterall, it is a used wepond in the movie, and should be regarded as one. There's a few other weponds used in this site that aren't actually weponds, but THEY are allowed? What's up with that?

==HK94s==
then we should separate the HK94 conversions from the real MP5s. I am against ''"just calling them MP5s and be done with it"''. I've seen those guns and the receivers are '''marked''' HK94 and their paperwork calls them converted HK94. Everyone just called them MP5 because they were lazy. Also it is a part of movie weaponry history that these converted HK94s were used. 99% of them are gone now, Mike Papac bought all the remaining ones (except mine) and did the full conversion so that we can't tell. But it's wrong to deny the HK94's place in cinema history when they were used so much (and we can also tell the difference). Also there are more Post 86 samples of real MP5s NOW than HK94s in movie inventory. The transferable HK94s are mostly in the hands of private Class III people. So we need to list what films they appeared in, since after the cut off date (when Mike converted the remaining few completely), they for all practical purposes ... disappeared from movies. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:00, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
:: Aw crap. Never mind then. The thumbs on that page are so small that I got confused. I blew them up and you're right. They ARE full MP5s. My bad. I guess we're on the same page. :)

==New pics==
I know that they're not as sexy as the hero guns, But I have been slowly and steadilyi replacing stock gun pics (like the AKMS, the Glock 27, (and I replaced the shot of that SL8 new model that the other uploaded ;) ). But MAN! the new users are kicking my ass. Creating new page after new page. My list of gun photos to get has tripled! :( MPM2008

== Maxim MG08 Photo ==

Thanks. Thats a much better photo of a Maxim on ''[[Wind and the Lion, The]]''
[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==you tired yet?==
I've noticed you've been re-directing all the bullshit new pages created by new anonymous users to the correct pages. I've been deleting some BS pages too but you've been very good at cleaning up IMFDB. MPM

==edits==
Ah yes, silly me :) I forgot about your directive to do re-directs. :) Good idea.

== Goodbye ==

Just wanted to see if you learned your lesson (which you did). Ciao.

==We Were Soldiers==
Hey Matt, On the AKs had the receivers made and then I assembled them while the unit was at Ft.Bragg filming. They are then nicest and smoothest AK's I have ever worked on or used. Steve

==M16K==
Glade you liked the photo of the M16K, LaFrance also built it in .45 caliber but I don't think any ever made it into the film industry. Steve

==Taking no more gun pics==
apparently it is becoming more acceptable for others to create 'frankengun' photoshop jobs out of my original pics and not even give credit. Heck. I would give credit to the jacked shots that I clean up with recropping, or color correcting if I knew who the original photographer was. But that's a minor point. My intent all along was to replace all jacked images with official licensed images. It's a lot of hard work and only a very few (like you) even seem to appreciate it. (plus you're way more tolerant of the inevitable flood of conflicting page styles and info from new (and some anonymous) users ... inevitable as the site gets more recognition). I'm on hiatus for taking pics of guns for a bit. Working hard for IMFDB should be enjoyable, not irritating. :( A break is good thing. MPM

==re:Re==
Thanks for clearing that up. As you know I'm not an AK pro. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Anonymous User 74.129.198.160==
What a dick, thanks for blocking him. I particularly disliked his comment on the ''[[Heist]]'' page, although I kind of laughed when he changed Solid Snake to "Solid Cock". None the less he was a vandal and the site is far better off without him, good work. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:''A vandal and a jackass, most definitely. Have to admit though, that last change he made was priceless. Blade uses a Benelli M3 to commit tax fraud. I'm still laughing.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:25, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

:: Well, atleast he has a decent sense of humor. - [[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]]

== server upgrade ==

We serve up a lot of images and need to step up on both the speed and size of the drives along with the speed of the processors. We're currently on a 4 core 2.4Ghz Xeon server (which we are constantly maxing out). The upgrade I was looking at is an 8 core 3Ghz Xeon box with a 15k RPM 72GB drive. We would keep the current server as a 'failover' which would also host the latest backup. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:41, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

:I just checked out the server stats, removing the front page screencaps reduced the server's processor load 30%. We need to figure out a way to just show a single image and link to the article, maybe we use the movie poster image? Or just select one highlight shot? We could use the same choose and option code we had been using and just insert a standard image tag with a screenshot of our choosing linking to the page? That may be the quickest way to work it for now. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Blocking anonymous users, period.==
Perhaps there's a way so that anonymous users just can't do anything other than look, period? It would sure save you and the other mods/admins a lot of trouble in the long run... --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 20:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

== Jacked image ==

Hey, MT2008, I came across a site with a jacked MPM2008 image on it: [http://guns.wikia.com/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_MK23]

I already left a note on MPM2008's talk page btw.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:26, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

It looks like he jacked Several images from MPM. Personally I need to check what this person has contributed to the site before I say more. but I know I've seen that handle before on some not so great pages. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 03:13, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Jacked Image ==

I would just warn him not to upload MPM2008's images on other sites, I don't think he knew that MPM didn't want his images on other sites.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:50, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I have removed them from the gunpedia and hopefully get them deleted.
[[User:Cutaway]] 18:37, 26/03/2009 (UTC)

==RoboCop 2==
Excellent work with [[RoboCop 2]], the page came out great.

I have to say, that UC-M21 Hob uses is pretty scary, the thing folds up to look like a lunch box but in seconds unfolds into a SMG. I saw someone using one in a Knob Creek video, that's a gun you don't want to see in kid's hands.

Anyway, I've been working on ''[[Magnum Force]]'' but sickeness has slowed my work process. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==THANKS! for the note of support==
It was appreciated. Well I am back from a pretty tough assignment (over a week of 14 hour days and nothing but grief) Actually I didn't know WHO did WHAT on the so called franken guns. I was not really paying attention for months to the M16 page and only concentrated on the AP74 22 clones at the bottom. I didn't even know that some guy (Kin93) out of Hong Kong had made so many franken guns out of my pics. But after a really BAD week (which I will go into on a general note later) I scanned up on the M16 page and saw literally a bunch of Franken M16 pics. I thought "WTF?!!" It wasn't so bad, in just it was just the topper of a really bad week (where someone in the real world took a custom shotgun I built, replaced the buttstock, and then showed it off to various art directors as a gun 'HE' built even though I did 99.99% of the work). So it was kinda just the straw that bent (not broke! :) ) the Camel's back for that time. I KNEW I had to take a break, and I sure felt better when I put a stop to the 'picture requests'. like a weight was taken off my back. (Also I was getting a little TOO wound up over the wave of new anonymous/newbie users whose gun knowledge is only airsoft/Video Games making wrong edits on all the pages. It was bound to happen and is the risk we all take on an open wiki page. Anyway THANKS for the note. I am now motivated to photograph real versions of the Franken guns, also so that we (IMFDB) don't get accused of 'creating virtual/fictional weapons' on the Internet.) Hope you've been doing well. best regards MPM

==Executive Decision==
Nice job on the page. I also like how you don't put 20 images of the same gun ad nauseum per section. When I see the 'crazy terrorist' with the Norinco Type 56-1 I always expect him to scream "I Blow You! Mother Bitches!!!!!" hahahahahaha. MPM2008

==44 minutes shootout==
I intend to built up the gun and rephotograph it for the page. Probably this weekend. :) Also when I do that, the franken gun picture doesn't have conflicting LIGHTING sources, like it does when people do Franken gun pics. An eagle eyed person can see the color changes or lack of shadows, etc. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:35, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

== Oops ==

Sorry about that. Kinda forgot. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 08:01, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

==Browning BDA 380==
hahahaha! Thanks for listing the Browning BDA for the Devil's own. I now feel validated in making the pistol page ;) That issue still brings up the discussion of pages for guns that don't (yet) have movie credits. I've created several pages for guns that I pulled from active motion picture armorer inventory, but I don't know if they've been in films yet. Did the Page help you at all with Identifying the pistol? ;) MPM2008

==Barb Wire==
I'm taking a break tonight so go for those changes. Fresh eyes probably catch things that someone who's been capping for hours does not. I'm not done screencapping so I will have more pics later. I will also try to get closer shots of the suspect guns. As for the MGC guns, yeah, we should put that in an MGC-16 category. But when they fire they are using the M16A1 with a heavy A2 barrel and A2 handguards setup like in the picture above the group shot. Again, I never noticed how many continuity errors they make in movies. In one shot Barb is grabbing a SIG and in the closeup it's a Glock ... WTF? I just got sick of looking at an empty Barb Wire page, even though the movie kinda sucked. Hope you like the Screengrab quality. I actually want to replace a bunch of the pages who have BAD crappy screengrabs. .... also you notice that there's a bunch more guys posting FULL frame screengrabs? versus widescreen? should I replace a full frame shot with a widescreen of the same shot (thus showing more of the picture?)..... MPM
:Hey Matt, I built the guns for Barb Wire when I worked at Ellis. MPM noticed the error when Pamela Anderson was firing a SIG then it switched to a Glock. That happened on the re-shoot they hired a new Prop Master for the re=shoots and he did not like to shop at Ellis. So he went to another armory and rented the weapons but we had built some guns that no one else had hence the error. Also on the Desert Eagle I built the ones used for the show and there are only two in the configuration. The Prop Master had two others built for doing the poster and other media and they don't match. The hero Desert Eagles are polished stainless frame with a blued slide and barrel. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Hey Matt, The Sig 228's used on "Barb Wire" were also used on "Virtuosity". The IR/Laser system was installed by Wilcox Industries UITC Laser System for Ellis. We had six made and I believe four of them were two tone. I will check out Barb Wire's page and add the info on the Eagles. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Long mountain outfitters==
I soooo want to rephotograph a lot of those movie guns. I think mine are better but its a lot of work. BTW, I intend to replace all the Franken gun pics with correct shots of original built guns. Heck, if the guys don't want a better and original pic of the gun they were trying to create, then tough titties. I will photograph what I can when I have the time, but I'm still not taking requests because there are a lot of them and some of them are quite difficult. MPM

==User ID: 81.170.34.14==
This guy's left his own personal comments all over the CoD4 page about his favorite guns. I originally thought it was confined to just one gun until I read over the rest of the page. Should I take the time and move them all over to the Discussion tab or should I just let you guys ban him and then clean up the page? --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 19:14, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

==My latest movie/tv pages==
I just realized that I've been focusing primarily on shows with Hot women as the stars (with guns) .... [[V.I.P.]] (Pamela Andersen), [[Barb Wire]] (Pamela Andersen), [[Painkiller Jane]] (Kristanna Loken), [[Bionic Woman]] (Michelle Ryan). Hope folks don't think I'm obsessed with hot women and guns.... MPM2008

==LMO==
Notice that LMO has a Seecamp 32 auto on sale as a screen used gun in Die Hard with a Vengeance? I wonder if you know where in the movie that weapon appears? http://www.longmountain.com/inventory/Seecamp32Auto.jpg
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:17, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

==Lord of War==
As I mentioned previous, I finally got around to capping ''[[Lord of War]]'', and have all the images saved. I only took a few and don't think I'll clutter up the page. Since it's your page, remove whatever you don't like. I also brightened and sharpened them so they look nice. I caught just a few you missed but nothing big. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Yeah I have that screencap of the Belly gun. Maybe another day I'll replace your shots but for now I'll just upload what I have. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I have a shot of the AR-7 gun circled, but I have no clue what it is. I only have a few more guns to upload and then I'm done. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Okay, all done. I was wondering, should I make the images 600px or are they okay at 500px? And do you like the movie poster we have currently or could I replace with one I have (it's the standard DVD cover, with Ethan Hawke in the background with Beretta 92FS Inox)? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Thanks for the ID help==
I'm bleary eyed by watching all the episodes, freezeframing them endlessly, going back and forth, taking the screencap and fixing it for IMFDB.... hahaha. Also I try hard to make good screenshots. would it be bad to replace some of the CRAPPY screenshots on the site? Also what is with the gigantic ... but blurry ... screenshots that I see other users uploading? I think there should be a screenshot bootcamp for all users.... :) Anyway, thanks for the help with the guns. :) MPM2008

==Re: Weapon Id's==
Hey Matt, No problem on id's glad I can help. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Re: Man on Fire Glock 34==
Hey Matt, From the photos I would say that the Glock 34 used was a special build but that is probably due to the fact the frames were not ready. Last minute we need the pistol today at noon kind of deal so the weapon was put together using a existing frame and barrel. They did the scene and the frames were completed for the Glock 34 to be used for the rest of the show. The lack of ports in the barrel is common as we need the peak pressure for blanks hence the non-ported barrel. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==SCI FI guns==
As a side note, I finally got an email response from the effects house that did the guns for Starship Troopers, Space Above & Beyond, Star Trek Voyager and Babylon Five. I might be able to get high quality custom pics of these fabricated weapons for IMFDB, which would be pretty cool, since IMFDB would (again) be the only place to have the pics. I've known these guys for decades, but trying to get them to commit to taking the time out for a photo shoot of prop weapons has been a REAL CHORE. :) best regards MPM2008

==Watermarking MPM's images==
I had showed this to MPM a while ago and wanted to show it to you. I designed a watermark for his images based on the site's logo, because I figured it would cut down on his images being stolen. He liked it but figured it wasn't necesarry to since he puts some form of protection on the images already. I still think it is cool though. What do you think?

[[Image:ColtMkIVSeries70watermarked.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

== A Better Tomorrow ==
Thanks for checking that unknown handgun out!
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 00:11, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

== X-Men Origins: Wolverine ==

Am naughty I know but I did see a bootleg version of the movie. Now I know I cannot post vidcaps of it but...can I create an article for it?

[[User: Charon68|Charon68]]

==RE:CDS ==
Hey Matt, The photos from ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' is definitely a early Taurus Model 85. Look close to the Colt Detective Special 3rd Gen but the barrel contour is different. I am glad the you like the Colt Detective Special 3rd Gen photo but the credit goes to member [[User: Charly Driver|Charly Driver]] posted the photo originally but it was just attached to on of his pages. I just put it on the Colt Detective Special page and cleaned it up so others can use it also. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== The Unit AIG rifle ==

I think I do still have that episode. Let me take a look. What's the rifle called? Full name. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:23, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:Ok, I got 3 ok shots of it, but I don't qute know how to designate it on my Unit page. Maybe you can help with the name game. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:35, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:The bipod is on wrong? I knew there was something funny about this photo. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:40, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

And the episode was ok. I think it's the last episode of the season. They need to throw in more of the budget for shootout scenes. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:43, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

==Finally replaced some of the old images==
[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two tone Jericho 941. All of our Jericho (original pics) are of the original 941. I don't have any of the 941FS, which seems to be the model which is used whenever they have two toned Jericho pistols - the FS has the decocker on the frame, not the slide. I'll check around to see if anyone has a 941FS model.]]
[[Image:HK91A3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler & Koch HK91-A3. I hated that jacked image of the A3 model with a 'custom flash hider and barrel' it was a non-standard configuration that no one would ever see in a movie.]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1894.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1894 - .30-30. Is this a saddle ring carbine? There's no marking on it other than Winchester Model 1894 - .30-30 Winchester and there doesn't seem to be a hole for the saddle ring, but it looks to be the same]]
[[Image:Benelli m3-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|FINALLY replaced that jacked image of a Benelli M3 Super 90!! I will also have a version of the M3 with ghost ring sights and the shorter pistol grip version soon]]
[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Finally replaced that 'place holder' picture of the black Jericho 941. I was sitting, staring at a 941 for weeks, but I didn't have time to set up the photographic lighting rig. This one is way better than the previous one.]]
I'm just doing pics as I can, not rushing out and killing myself trying to get weird or wacky configurations. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== I am Legend ==

Thanks, I saw the shot, I wanted to include that shot, but wasn't sure if I should use it since it was in the same scene. I'll go back and get it a few minutes, thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:56, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded all the shots I taken so far, and I'll be taking more tomorrow as well. If you have anymore suggestions for Screenshots, let me know. I uploaded the shot you mentioned and explained it's significance since some users argued whether it was a USP Variant or not when the page was first built. Thanks for the information by the way, I'll keep it in mind next time I see a Mark 23.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:34, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

== Memento pistol ==

Hey, thanks for helping with the S&W from ''[[Memento]]''. I had considered that it might have been the 6906 but it didn't seem to have the double-stack frame. Is it a different variation of the 6906? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:33, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:Haha no problem, I had just watched it in the movie so it was fresh on my mind! Thanks for pointing out the 4556, I forgot the check those variations. I've noticed quite a few movies have had 4556 and 4566 models as well, we'll probably be needing pages on those anyway. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

==Where should I put these?==
Hey, you're pretty good at this sort of thing. Where do I put this image on the Beretta page? There's no Vertec section but it is a straight front pistol grip. I re-arranged the Beretta 92 page anyway, grouping the 'odd slide/frame' models together, (Brigadier, Elite, Centurion)
[[Image:Beretta-92FS-Vertec-SS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS Vertec - 9mm]]

Should we have a performance center page? :)
[[Image:S&WPerformanceCtr627.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Performance Center Model 627 - .357 Magnum]]

==Lupara Page==
Hey Matt, I just noticed this page made titled Lupara. The term is for sawed off shotguns not makes or models do you think this should be redirected to double barrel shotgun page? I will be posting seven new film tomorrow on the site it is the entire Thin Man series of films. I am working on the layouts right now and will post when finished. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==BB/Pellet Guns==
Hey Matt, I working on the layout for Thin Man right now and a question came up. Do we include BB/Pellet Gun on this site? If we do can we just place them under one heading on the Gun page? Let me know when you can. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Benelli==
I just realized that the latest Benelli M3 Super 90 pic is more like the version used in the films like HEAT and the Getaway. The Ghost Ring sights version of the old jacked picture wasn't seen as much as the factor sights. MPM2008 thanks for the note! :)

== Inside Man AKs ==

Hey, thanks for looking at the AKs used on ''[[Inside Man]]''. I'd hate to be a burden but I'm not good at identifying between AK-47s and Norincos (even with the receiver/sight information), so if you get a chance would you be able to identify which have which guns? In the meantime I'll try and decode it but I wouldn't want to make any mistakes and I trust your opinions more than I'd trust my attempts! Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 02:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
:Okay, thanks, I'll try and sort them out the best I can [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah I just noticed when I went to check them out that they all seemed to be milled-receiver AK-47s. I don't know why I made the Type 56 mistake but thanks for clearing it up! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:39, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

==L6 rotary launcher==
Hey Matt, I was wondering if you can change this to the correct title. It should be '''Penn Arms Rotary Launchers''' not L6 rotary launcher since they have multiple models of the rotary launcher and several different models are in the film industry. Check out their website when you get time. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, I will work on the Penn Arms Rotary Launchers page in the next couple of days. We used them at both Ellis and at CW also Stembridge had them. Thanks for moving that. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== S&W 4506 ==

How Well, in your opinion, does a 4506 stand up to a Sig 226? I have been considering buying a 4506 and I would like to know what the gun is like before I buy it.

==Chuck guns==
Wow, where did you get the pics of Chuck screen used guns. I just wish they were better photographs ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:30, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

==ISS==
I was going to go to ISS and do a photo day. Oh well. I guess I don't have to do THAT anymore. I just wish people knew how to take proper pictures. No offense, but even if I give detailed instructions as to how I take the photos, no one listens and we still have the same level of quality of photographs that we see on Gunbroker (except for the shots of linoleum floor and white socks on feet ;) ) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 16:53, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Idiot 24.119.243.233==
Hey Matt, Thanks for blocking this idiot I send sometime reverting back the pages he messed up. Something has to be change on who can edit pages or it will happen again. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, I would be more than happy to help out in Admin. Talk to Bunni and see what happens. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
::Hey Matt, Thanks on the recommendation. I have a lot of ideas to pass on to other admins on how to clean up some pages and improve the appearance overall. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, I was made an Admin Today. I what to say thanks again for recommending me.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==WTF?==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Beretta_M92_%22Samurai_Edge%22
This is a dedicated gun page to a firearm that belongs to the Resident Evil VG universe only. Do you think this gun deserves a separate page? Being that it is a weapon that only exists in either airsoft or the VG series Resident Evil and is based on the 92FS or Elite alreadY? Your thoughts are appreciated. MPM2008

==Thanks==
I had no idea that this guy plagiarized the entire page from another site. Yep, that's a sure fire DELETE in my book. Thanks so much for the input. MPM2008

==Thanks==
Thanks you for the compliment! I didn't like the older Taurus images. That low resolution Stainless model pic bugged me for a long time. Also movies change the components so now that I have the guns (or easy access to them) I can swap out items to make the gun look identical to the movie versions. It's nice to know that folks notice ;) I did the two tone guns primarily for GM45's Shoot Em Up page since I noticed that the movie had TWO different 2=tone versions. Also I noticed that a lot of pages had the PT99 Stainless because they didnt' have a PT92-AFS with the proper black grips. BTW: do you think we're spoiled regarding gun pics. I remember the bad old days when we had so many jacked AIRSOFT images! ugh! LOL. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Did someone ask for a Mossberg Pic?==
[[Image:Mossberg590Modified.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500C wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge]]
I could have sworn that someone, someplace requested that I photograph a Mossberg 590 shotgun (parkerized version) with a 500C wooden furniture for some movie '''but I can't remember now what it was for'''. Well, here it is! :) I actually bought the 500C wood to put on one of my 590s for the pic so I sure hope that a movie used this configuration somewhere :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Two tone guns...who knew!==
HAHAHAHa. you guys are getting a lot of mileage out of the two tone SIGs photos! I had NO IDEA that combo was so prevalent in movies. :) Well I did the Two Tone Taurus for GM45's Shoot Em Up page, but it's nice to see that other films have used it as well. If you're wondering why I have not done an INOX yet, is that there are several versions of the INOX. The only ones I have access to are FUGLY. They are later models where the SS is a matted 'satin stainless' that looks like someone spraypainted the gun with that crappy model kit silver paint. The finish is horrible. I'm trying to find the earlier ones where it was polished or semi polished Stainless (also I'm not too keen on all of the black accents (trigger, mag release lever, hammer, etc.) on the newer INOX guns) I'm looking for an all SS one. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

==Calico Weapons page==
Well I've been busy, photographing every Calico Variant I can think of (or that is available to me). The Calicos are probably the least photographed weapon on the Internet and a lot of the web based information pages on the Calico are either wrong or lame. IMFDB will soon be the only place where a lot of these variants are seen (well at least via a cursory Google search). Tell me what you think of the page and if you see a Calico on a movie page that is NOT listed, I would appreciate the help! :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

==Calicos==
''Also, have you ever noticed that Calico used to call their weapons the '''"Liberty I"''' and '''"Liberty II"'''? What is with the "Liberty" nomenclature, and which guns does it apply to?''
::The '''Liberty I''' carbine and the '''Liberty III''' Pistol was just a renaming trick to get around the 'named gun' assault weapon bans that were popping up all over the country after 1990, (Cincinnati, Chicago, NYC, Maryland, New Jersey, Hawaii, etc.) the 901 was a renamed gun specifically because of the California ban of the Model 900 (California's original 1989 ban only banned the M900 and M950 by name) Their later ban, restricted by 'features' (which is all bullshit anyway, but you know that already). Anyway, other states saw what manufacturers were doing, so they started banning "The 900 SERIES". Though lawyers thought that it was questionable to ban by series, Calico didn't want to take the chance.... (what if a manufacturer has a model type starting with 900 but it is NOT an assault weapon? Is that banned too?) To avoid that, in the early 1990s Calico just renamed the '''950''' pistol to be the '''Liberty III''' and the '''900''' rifle to be the '''Liberty I'''. That's it. They are identical guns.

''Oh, yeah, and are you sure the ''Deep Rising'' Calicos are the M955A? Not saying you're wrong, just that I personally can't tell the barrel length with those fake rotating barrels on them.''
:: The overall length is closer the 955A than any other model. The 900 is too long. They would have had to cut down the barrel, so why would they do that? The 960A is too short and they would have had to put a barrel extension to mate the end of the barrel to the end of the fake rotating mini gun. It makes no sense otherwise. ''(I compared pictures from the side of the L1-M1 guns and they are too short to have the long barrel Carbine underneath and obviously if they had the short pistol barrel length 960As then they would have had to build up an entire barrel extension system to elongate the overall length. )''

[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:04, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== My Kimber Warrior ==

You have NO idea how many MONTHS of saving up it took me to get this damn thing and the ammo and the 3 extra mags. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
:I had to pick either this or the Springfield Operator. BOTH were just as expensive. Over $1,000 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

:I might shoot off all 3 mag full just to break them in and for satisfaction, but with the economy these days and the shortage of guns, and ammo and parts because of the Obama scare, I am going to fire this as less as possible. Would it surprise you that I plan to carry this around with me where ever I go?[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:32, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

:Well, I don't have a "Real" job yet, so yeah it did take me a long time. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:32, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, the feel is a lot heavier than a plain old 1911, that's the first thing I felt different when I carry it. As I said a moment ago, I haven't gotten time to shoot it yet, I only got a couple boxes of ammo. .45s are particularly expensive nowadays, but then again what isn't. I do however plan on either getting a surefire flashlight attachment or a grip laser [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

:Reloads do sound awesome, but if they keep misfiring and stove piping, then no thanks. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:00, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
::Sounds cool, the cheaper price that is. I wasn't expecting free ammo. But me still unfamiliar with a lot of things involving guns, I actually never knew you can reload spent brass with new bullets. I keep thinking the brass are just you fire and forget. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:19, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

== Indian Actor ==

I thought it would be easier for Indian viewers to find an Indian actor in a separate list. However if it is increasing complexity then it can be removed. I agree with you. Thanks. [[User:Ritwikbmca|ritwikbmca]] 16:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==Any old gun page will do!==
Cutaway is not the only one doing it. New members are starting to post gun pages on whatever gun they think is cool, regardless of whether they appeared in anything or not. I'm tempted to start giving them a deadline to list a film, television show, anime, VG in which this firearm appears ..... or else I am DELETING their page. I am also tempted to delete the pages (not the images but just the page) of those bizarre Cutaway experimental guns that don't appear in anything (Like the Siamese Tromix which is a ONE OFF experimental gun from some custom gun maker in the SouthEastern U.S.). to be fair I will also have to DELETE my own Browning Pro-9 page, since I don't think it has appeared in anything yet, even though the images are of blank adapted guns in active armorer inventory. Should I keep pages for guns that are (a) blank adapted and (b) already in active rental inventory of SOME armory? The chances of them appearing in a future project is far greater than these obscure foreign or experimental guns. I look forward to your opinion on this. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:15, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

==La France Calicos==
Hey Matt, Thanks on the Admin glade to be on board with the rest of you to try and improve IMFDB and clean up some pages. The Calicos were used on "Homeboys in Outer Space" and several other shows. I hope to review the rental history on them shortly. Might have the information up by the weekend. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!==
Et Tu Brute? Now you're posting foreign language german films! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! MPM2008

==Okay, you're the one who started all of this ;) ==
SB2296 deleted the PSL page and moved it onto the SVD page. My only problem with that is if we merge TOO many gun types into one page, people won't find them and be able to use the page for identification purposes. Like guns of the world, I like separating all the gun types, but you and I have polar opposite opinions regarding this (you merged MY zastava page onto the AK page, even though I was against it). It's just two different opinions, but I want to know how we can get some sort of consensus amongst the MODs regarding this so that we can have a set of rules for IMFDB. But I want to solidify the specs rather than continue to go through this conflict with people formatting pages in a way that I would not format. I will fully follow the directive of the group, but I'm tired of just having people do it 'their way' over my objections with no forum for arbitration. Thanks :) Do you agree with the deletion of the FPK/PSL page? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:25, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

==FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle Page==
Hey Matt, I changed the FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle page back to it original format and added info explaining that the weapon is based on the stamped receiver RPK and not the Dragunov. Some think that it's a SVD but it's not it's more like a Yugo .308 AK. So all in good now. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Zastava M70==
Actually the Zastava M70 is built on a RPK receiver, not an AK receiver, which is why I don't think it belongs in the AK lineage. PhoenixEnt changed the PSL back to the original format, since the PSL is built on the RPK receiver as well, and is not a direct descendant of the SVD. So the Yugo series of AK type rifles are not direct descendants of the AK47. My thought is, if someone chopped the barrel of an RPK to make a short RPK, would we suddenly classify it and merge it onto the AK page, rather than the RPK page? This is obviously not a super serious issue, but imfdb does seem to have inconsistent standards in regards to what gun pages should comprise. MPM2008

==M70==
According to the arguement posted, then all of the Valmet Rifles or Galil Rifles should be under the AK banner as well? They are 'rifles' and serve the role of rifle, even though their receivers are different than the direct lineage of the AK? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

==Galil & Valmet==
Actually I just mentioned that action because it seemed to be line with the line of thinking in your post. I am not FOR merging them into AK-47. In fact I am vehemently against it, but, as I said before, no one listens to me when it comes to IMFDB styles and protocols. ;) Now that we're on this contentious topic ;), what do you think about all those M16 variants the people are creating new pages for? The LWRC SRT rifle series for example. or Z-M LR 300? Now I am also against dumping all the variants of the M16 like the SR-25 or .308 guns into the M16 page, primarily because the pages are getting too gigantic and unwieldy. It's about user experience and I am not sure that behemoth pages that scroll down for ages is what people are looking for. I for one, HATE those blogs where the bloggers keep all their entries for months and months on the same page, thus looking for any one entry takes hours of scrolling to find it. Anyway, you now see where I get my strong anti-long page bias from ! :D Well, at least you have a break from your studies to jump back into the IMFDB fray! :D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

==The Defender's machine guns (modified FN MAGs)==
Hey Matt, This weapon is a M60 Light Machine Gun mounted upside down. Look at the barrel sticking through the screen the gas cylinder is on top. The third photo show the bag hanger and the top cover of the M60. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, I will check to on the ID for those unknown Sub Machine Guns during the week when I go back to the armory. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Weapons Page Layout==
Hey Matt, Had an idea for the weapons page layouts since they are get more cluttered as more info is added. What do you think about columns that had listing for Actors Name/Character Name/Production Name/ Year of Production. We had those types of columns in the motorsport wiki that I worked on for information just to clean up the pages. Let me know and I can set up one page nothing big so everyone can check it out. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, Motorsportpedia is down while they move over to a new server. But I can set up a page as I still have the layouts save on my PC and then screen capture and post it here so you can see it. Let me know and I do a trial run tonight. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Hey Matt, I made a test page with screencaps of the Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer with the new layout. The top is original format, Middle is all info in new layout, and Bottom is just Film Title and Year of Production. Let me know what you think. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, The dates are the easiest part on this can add them as the page is redone. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
::Hey Matt, I did not know if you wanted me to start on those layouts or wait until you told the other Admins. Let me know as the set up is done. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey Matt, If you would starting that page on the forum for me it would be great as I am heading out right now. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Hey Matt, Looked over at the Forum on the page you started. Very cool that you did that for me. Thanks. It seems that from the lukewarm response that they like it but could not be bothered with it as they will just continue to make it look like a 4 year old constructed the page. Sad that a Admin feels that way but it also lazy that they don't want to improve the way IMFDB is looked at by others. Hopefully we can do this layout and improve the way it looks. Thanks Again.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

Hey Matt, What I can do is layout on my PC first before I even post them. Then I will do a mass change on those pages. I will start with the most popular pages first and work my way down. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
[[Image:TestPgWeapons.jpg|thumb|none|800px|Layout Test Page]]

==Arggg, did a Frankgun Fix==
[[Image:Podbyrin9 2mmPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIXED in Photoshop Podbyrin 9.2mm pistol (merged a rounded Beretta 92S trigger guard onto the handgun to make it look more like the movie gun)....]]
I spoke to the original gun owner, and suggested a 'frankengun' fix in PS, and surprisingly, he said he 'thought it was cool'. He was intrigued to see what the pistol would look like with the 'correct trigger guard', so I took a photo of a Beretta 92SB and 'merged' the rounded trigger guard onto the Podbyrin. How does this look? I usually try to avoid doing a lot of photoshop on a gun pic, other than lightening shadows or darkening highlights or fixing scratches or (obscuring SNs). It's still not the screen used gun, but now it's closer to the real deal. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Seven Days ==

I actually didn't start that page, I just contributed to it. Feel free to add to it. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:35, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

::Yeah, gee thanks MT2008, I did 90% of the page and you ask ORCA1 if you can contribute to it! LOL. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:25, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

== AK-47 Page Edits ==

I removed -some- of the spacing since in some places it left what looked like excessively large blank areas that required more scrolling to get to the rest of the article. I was just trying to make it look more compact and fuller. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:33, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==RE: Revamping Matrix Reloaded==
The Desert Eagle screencaps were the most I believe so I never went over 8. That's pretty good for me. I tried to limit where I could, have no worries. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==
Since the news of David Carradine's death :( I was cruising around IMFDB and I noticed a nice touch to Charlton Heston's page. Someone put a photo of him, not a screenshot, in which it simply stated, "Charlton Heston: 1923 - 2008" I wanted to do something similar to Brandon Lee's page (1965-1993) :( , but I also thought that it would be nice (but completely optional) to put a DOB-DOD listing on actors who have passed away. I was going to do one for PhoenixEnt's page for Morris Ankrum the actor, I was going to put (1896-1964) but I figured I would check first. Also I thought it would be nice to know which of our famous actors have passed on. Thoughts anyone? I'm not going to do any sort of mass campaign to do so, but to know that no one else has objections would be nice. :) MPM2008

==You Video Game guys are missing my point completely==
I don't care any thing about what gun is appropriate in real life for a video game character. I seriously don't. :) I don't play Video Games. I work on movies :) I was just lamenting that IMFDB has to have dedicated gun pages to really obscure Russian weapons or experimental weapons because they appear in some video game SOMEWHERE. Talk about cluttering IMFDB with info. And I sure as hell can't get a good MPM photo of these guns, Arggggg they don't exist outside of some experimental arms room in RUSSIA!!!! ;) But they get a dedicated gun page because they DID appear in a Video Game. You know, in the old days, I would have booked a flight to Russia JUST to take a custom IMFDB photo of those guns................... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==Wilkinson Arms Linda Pistol==
Hey Matt, I have some photos of the Linda so I was going to make a page for it. But do you think that the Linda and the Terry should have their own page or combined? If so then I would add the J&R M-68 Carbine as well since Ray Wilkinson built that one in So. EL Monte in the same business complex as my parents Gun Company.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, Thanks for the words I am working on the photos hope to have them up by Sunday. I have to check on some background for the M68 Carbine and Wilkinson Pistols and Carbines to fill out the page. Also hope to have the first layout mods posted this weekend.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Making a documentary video about guns?==
Wow! That is so less work than taking photographs of guns! ..... not! ;) Also we would have to expend our own blanks $$ out of our own pockets and there is the time, editing etc. The $$ thing is a touchy subject. The SAG strike fucked us, big time. Now SAG has signed, but guess what? It's too late. Almost NO production for a YEAR and now because of the credit crunch, no one as any money to do anything. the investors are all pulling out. It's sad when SPIELBERG has to go to CHINA to get financing for his next movie. the number of project being filmed in California alone dropped 40%. At one time there were 40 productions each week. in the greater Los Angeles area (TV Shows, Feature films, Indie Films, TV Pilots, Commercials, etc.) The last time I even checked, I think about a month ago, it was THREE.

BLANKS: Our cost of blanks have historically been about 300% the cost of the real deal. Movie blanks are a highly customized item and the types of brass and powder formulas are specifically formulated for movies. There is no economy of scale like in real ammo. And real ammo is manufactured in the MILLIONS each year. Now it gets to the point that I don't blow off my own blanks unless they've been paid for by a production.

Again, the comment was aimed at people who haven't done a production. We run into that all the time, everyone from ABOVE the line to everyone BELOW the line in a production. The lay public has no idea what it takes (and how much it costs) for even a small production.

GUN RENTAL RATES: I'm too tired to even list off the costs, but the rule of thumb is usually 10% of full replacement costs for one week. Sometimes more. Most expensive guns never rent ten weeks of production in decades. Stembridge was lucky in that so many of their older guns (Western,WW2, WW1, etc) had already paid for themselves by the 1970s so all rentals were pure profit. I have guns which have NEVER rented since 1989. I have guns which have rented ONCE (in the lifetime of most of IMFDB's members). Anyway that's just historical tidbit for you, based on my own experiences, not everyones. :) MPM
::I fixed a typo that would have been confusing....

==Letters from Iwo Jima M1903A1 Sniper Rifles==
Hey Matt, Nice photos of the 1930A1 Sniper Rifles. I built those rifles for Windtalkers although they were never seen in the film. They are the only two that I know of in the industry and are own by Rock. I lost the photos of my build when my hard drive crashed a few years ago and now I just take new photos of the completed weapons to fill that empty space. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== About "Rock" Galotti ==
Funny, he did some of the stunts in [[Platoon]]. That is pretty cool i guess.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

==RE: OK, I need your help==
Hey Matt, Those are Daewoo K3 Light Machine Guns dressed as M249's. Back in the day not to long ago M249's were not that available. So two armories in LA used Daewoo K3's and dressed them up and I am sure that the Canadian armories followed suit. The K3's were cheaper than getting M249's at the time. Good eye on that most have never spotted them before. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey Matt, I will check on the one I know of here on Thursday. Let me know what other info you need on the K3's -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Re:Weapon pages==
I think we can do away with the italics with the new layout unless it really adds to the looks of the pages. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Payback Page ==

Thanks for the quick response. I completely agree with the change of page Payback who made Gunmaster. He has identified and corrected some of my mistakes making the page very interesting. The substitution with Screencaps of the Director's Cut version is very beautiful, the pictures are less dark, more large and clear. I just wanted to be advised before the change, that's all. However, no problem. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

==K3==
I can find out, but I don't know off hand. I have 4 M249s, CW as 12 M249s, so obviously they are available. I will ask specifically the next time I interact with an armorer who has a K3. MPM
:I will be going to the armory soon and will get a photo of the K3 and check when they started to use them. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
::I asked some questions about the K3's. The reason for them being mocked up was the fact that the armories could not get M249's at that time. Both large armories here in LA and the Canadian armories used then extensively for years. I did not have my camera but I will have a photo of them ready by the first of the week. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==WTF?==
On the Steyr AUG page, you give thanks to BullpupThai when I'm the one who actually revamped the page?!?!?! It took all day to revamp the tables and update the information. He only added the A3 photos and they're of variants that no one has seen in any movies. WTF? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:49, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:Hey Matt, No problem on the change to the Television layout. What did you think about the lines on the layout samples. I had GM45 like one style and [[Oliveira]] like another I just have not brought it up to the rest of the Admin's yet. Let me know as I have seen several other members start to change pages to the new layout- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 14:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==Template==
Thanks for the note. To the mods: Though my own preference is strongly towards chronological order, I can accede to the wishes of the majority. I do like the format of Title First, before actor. Please note all, in the [[Steyr AUG]] page that the title, then character, then actor template, dovetails nicely into the other genres (television) but also Anime and Video games. Since there is no Character in some and no Actor in Anime or Videgame, I think this order maintains the same look from Film all the way down to VG. Thanks and please look at the page to see what I was referring to. Thanks again. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:27, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Wilkinson Arms==
Hey Matt, I talked briefly with one of Ray Wilkinson's business partners and he told me that they sold some for use in the film industry in the late 60's early 70's. I have a interview with him hopefully this week and should be able to fill in some history and specs. for the weapons. They only made three of the G-77 Sub Machine Guns but some could have copied it for a show. I hope to have more info on this than is any where on the net. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Moving Desert Eagle==
Whoa there buddy! :) I don't think we should move the Desert Eagle to IMI Desert Eagle. It was designed by Magnum Research, but the gun was also manufactured by Saco Defense in Maine. Some of the guns I've used in the field were SACO guns and not IMI pistols. Most of the Mark XIX were not IMI but Saco guns. the ones I photographed from Cinema Weaponry just had new replacement slides on them, so the mfg was not even listed. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)]

==Your Grandfather's guns==
:You really sold the guns your Grandfather gave you? If I did that my Opa would whip my ass.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 21:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
==RE Goldeneye==
I appreciate it and I'll keep what you said in mind --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 01:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
==RE 1911==
Yeah, I think your right. too bad we have no stock images though --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:10, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

sorry im new on here im still trying to figure all of this out.. i understand now..
==Forum==
:You have a point, but I don't have an email-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 06:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

==Dillinger's Pistol==
I believe Dillinger was carrying a Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless when he was outside the theater (much like he did in real life). I was wondering where the Colt Pocket ''Hammer'' was used, which is a different gun. I remember when Dillinger tried to draw his pistol it was hammerless, so I never saw the Hammer Pocket pistol. And any info from the guys at ISS would be much appreciated :) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Glock Page==
I notice on the Glock page people keep changing the newer first and second generation guns to say 2nd and 3rd generation. I believe you pointed out new models (19 and up) are only in 1st and 2nd generation (as they made no three generations for those pistols), yet people continue to change them incorrectly. Am I wrong on something, or should we message others that they are wrong. Also, check out the SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series page and check out the format style I prefer, and am trying to sell people on as the norm. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Huh, that's confusing as hell. Personally I say the the Glock 17 and 18 have three generations, while from 19 and on only have two because they never made a first generation 19-39 pistol with the original 1st gen styling, they only made them with 2nd and 3rd gen styling, so it would make sense to only refer to them in 1st and 2nd gen. And besides, the new Glock format with the sandpaper type grips would either become the newer 3rd generation, or become the older 4th genertation depending. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==I'm back briefly==
Just dealing with a bunch of Indies who want guns... And as you well know, sometimes the production has no idea what they want ... and when they want it. Ugh! But I'm slammed with work so if you send me any messages, I apologize for not responding in a timely manner. best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:13, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Armorer page idea ==

Hey, I haven't checked the forums in awhile so I don't know if anyone's had this idea before, but I was wondering if we should set up a way of making pages for movie armorers or at least one page with the armorers and links to the movies they've done. I'm not sure how it would be set up, but I just wanted to consult with anyone else to see if this would be a good idea. I figured these guys do a ton of work and it'd be great to see who all's worked on what, etc. Again, if anyone's had this idea before just ignore this but I was just thinking it might be neat to honor these guys. Let me know what you think! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Alien vs. Predator: Requiem ==

Thanks for the revamp Matt, it looks even better now. And yeah, I noticed too that about my screenshots, do they all look like that? And by the way, did you get a new screencapping system? I noticed the names on your screencaps are different.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:I see what you mean, I too prefer screenshots to be named after the movie they go to, it makes it easier to know which movie a screencap goes to, plus it beats accidently overwriting images. About the Aspect Ratio, I'll have to mess around with Cyberlink a little, I don't know why they come out like that. It bugs me sometimes too since a screencap from a movie with a 1:85 aspect ratio comes out like a fullscreen image, while other people's video players have them actually look like widescreen images. Anyway, good work on the pages you recently worked on, it's nice to see your work again.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

==Happy Belated Birthday!==
Congrats, and I hope you figure out the problem with VLC and your Bluray player (I think they build them into the newest greatest laptops for a reason...). I've been trying to send you the 10-step guide but my damn computer froze 3/4ths of the way through me finishing the message. So I'm reattempting, check it out when you get a chance. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Point Break==
Crazy, I was going to pick up Point Break on DVD next time I went out, but with Bluray I think you kind of beat me there. Can't wait to see how the page looks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Hey Matt, I was wondering, do you know how to treat images for better clarity? Obviously bluray doesn't truly require it, but even bluray can look better if it's done properly.

[[Image:PBreak-00055.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is your original cap.]]

[[Image:PBreak-00055-edit.jpg|thumb|none|600px|This is the image after I brightened it and high-pass sharpened it.]]

I'm not sure what picture editor you have, but if you have one close enough to mine I can tell you what to do. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::I use Corel Paint Shop Pro. If you think your system is close enough to mine, I can send you screencaps on the Forums Private Message showing exactly what to do. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::I made a 10-step direction system using screencaps on my computer, so I'll send them to you in a private message and see what you can do. If it doesn't work, I could always edit the pictures for you and re-upload them. Hope this helps. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Not to embarass you or anything, but...==
His name actually is spelled ''Michael Bay.'' Not ''Bays.'' Just for future reference. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:12, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

==Austin Powers PPK/S==
Hi. I just looked at the Austin Powers pages and I noticed that you deleted the pictures of his pearl gripped PPK/S. Anyway, I was just wondering why you did that. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 01:52, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

== Re ==

Okay, no problem Matt, you always know what you're doing. Sorry about the double post comment By the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:51, 22 July 2009

Don't worry, I'm sure we'll get through it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

:Don't worry things will be fine. We will get through this. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 16:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
::"Get throught this"? What the Fuck is going on?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:32, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Because i swear alot. The word "fuck" can also be used to put emphasis on things. Such as above, the "fuck" makes it seem that i'm worried.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:I know. I try but it's hard when it just comes out of your mouth like that.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

==RE: SIG P220 page==
My bad, just don't leave the sections empty, it completely removes the box from the columns, which looks bad. I suppose I could just fill the notes with "none", since there is nothing to note. And in Harold & Kumar II, you could see in a lot of scenes his P226 had a funky barrel like a prop gun or airsoft. But in some scenes it looked normal. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==WTF?==
I just saw a chopped and converted HK94 (masquerading as an MP5) on the BBC show "Primevel" tonight. WTF? Why on earth would the British Armorers have such a thing? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:22, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

==Template Layout==
Hi Everyone, Now that I am back let's talk about the page layout template. On the forum we had one item brought up about the chronological order being reversed. Also another item was brought up about putting lies or boxing in the information. As admin it is up to us to police the site and make a decision that is agreed upon by the majority of admins and then implemented. Let's all go back to the [[Talk:Test Template Page]] and nail these last issues down. As we talk about it pages have been created and might need to be corrected so there is a standard look to all the gun and actor pages. Thanks for you input and help on the. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Little help please ==

Can you help ID this weapon? It looks like a Kalashnikov rifle but I'm not sure what kind.

[[Image:Sea P Rifle.png]]

[[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]] 18:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:It's a [[RPD]]. Is it just me or you don't know much about weapons, Gunner?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Re: The Desert Eagle ==

Thanks for the complement. GM45 cleaned the pic up pretty good. Glad the pic will be put to good use. That's not the only gun I own. I own a few others but better pics of the them are already done. But when I get time I'll take some snaps of them and put them on my personal page.-[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]

== XM177s in The Rock ==

Sorry for bothering you
Indeed, i am not quite agree with your statement that all the XM177 used in the film were installed with 10" barrel

[[Image:Vlcsnap-2009-08-02-02h29m10s22.png]]

I captured a picture to show the 11.5 barrel of a XM177E2,which the armor might want to build and to pretend the gun as.
Please Feel Free to check it out

[[Friendsever]] 02:56, 2 August 2009 (GTM+8)

==WTF? you in the habit of reading Gunmaster45's talk page?==
I thought 3913 (someone else wrote that it was a 3903, but I deleted it because there is no such gun), but it could be a 3906 with novak sights. It just looks alittle too big to be the stock 3913. Thoughts? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks! Guess you forgot these additions ;) ==
[[Image:Smith & Wesson Model 617.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|S&W Model 617]]
[[Image:Colt1911A1PreWar.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Colt M1911A1 Pre War Commercial Model]]
[[Image:ColtBisleySAA.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Colt Bisley SAA - 45 LC]]
[[Image:M1911-RAFIssue455.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|RAF issued M1911 in .455 Webley]]
[[Image:RugerLCP.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger LCP]]‎
[[Image:M1911vs.M1911A1.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Replacement for the M1911 comparison chart]]
[[Image:Browning-HP-P35.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Original FN P35 Pistol]]
[[Image:BrowningBuckmarkContour.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Browning Buckmark]]
[[Image:BersaSAThunder380.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Bersa Thunder 380]]
[[Image:WaltherP22CA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Walther P22CA 5" barrel with comp]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==MGC==
I don't have those variations. I will check with CW, but a lot of the old MGC guns are extinct. They've been broken and thrown in the trash heap years ago. Well photos of guns is the only thing I still do unmolested ;) Since no one listens to me regarding formats, people are dumping tons of extraneous screencaps on pages unabated, youngsters with only VG experience are running amok on the site; basically the site is a victim of it's own success. More and more irritating users will sign up and mess up pages. I've lost a lot of my enthusiasm, but I still contribute from time to time.

BTW: I am intent on deleting all frankengun pics from IMFDB. To be fair, I'll photograph a real gun that will represent what the Frankenguns were supposed to depict and replace them BEFORE I do so, but I don't want people thinking that we Photoshop create all our guns. That would negate all the trouble I went to, to get the real guns to photograph in the first place. So ultimately we'll have the same image, but of a real gun, and not a Photoshop montage. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:40, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==barb Wire guns==
I never said that the MGC guns were spec. They were obviously original MGC M16 (quasi SP1 classic model) that were modified with real A2 handguards and had the three prong flash hider cut off the barrel (it was cast as one piece) and the A1 birdcage attached. I mentioned that the 30 round magazines did not fit well in the MGC guns in [[Dragon Wars: D-War]] because they were probably real 30 rounders that were jammed into the undersized well. But the 30 rounders in [[Barb Wire]] fit a little better so they were probably 30 round magazines stolen from XM177 MGC guns (since MGC never sold replacement magazines, you had to steal from a whole gun). Just wanted to clear that up. :) No one uses the MGC guns anymore. All of the armories just use the nicer Classic Army or G&G or Tokyo Marui guns which didn't exist back then. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:04, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

==RE: Glow not Blow==
Yeah. I figured it was just a little typing error, since the G and B are on top one another. BTW, excellent job with Underworld: Evolution, looks great. Check out the new wallpaper. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:I don't know if I could fit that, but I'll see what I can do. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==UWE Boll!==
re: UWE, ''but I'm pretty sure they have the full-circle front sight hood'' Man, you DO need glasses. They are NOT full circle sight hoods, but the open ones. :) hahaha. that's why I discounted the Norinco, because they weren't enclosed hood front sights.... MPM

==AKs==
Well you didn't post THAT IMAGE on the UWE page! ;) That right AK DOES have an obviously chinese style closed hood. I just noted that some of the others did not. But then, I've used a dremel tool to grind down the Chinese hoods to simulate Russian style (but this was back in the 1980s, when there were just so many Chinese guns and not that many Poly Tech Legends or Maadis floating around. MPM

== Another Image ==

Matt, the image of the Flamethrower is still on the [[Soldier]] page:

[[Image:IMG 1411.JPG|thumb|none|400px|One of the actual flamethrowers used in ''Soldier'' (this image is an IMFDB exclusive)]]

Do you want this deleted as well?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Lois & Clark==
I'm going to be offline for 4 days as I'm busy on a vacation. I was thinking if you could do Lois and Clark(editing and fixing some for a start) while I'm gone. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
==Thing Thing Aena 2==
There's another page of a Thing Thing game. Many users say that this could be something else. I don't know what it is, but users are discussing it. - [[Special:Contributions/98.234.125.53|98.234.125.53]](Kenny99) 02:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Can you believe this guy? ==

Yournamehere thinks he can come to my page and change the format I prefer because he doesn't like it. How is my format not orderly. It's pissing me off. I mean look at my [[Black Lagoon]] Page. How is it better now than before when I had sections for which guns is which. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:00, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

:I'm just shrugging this aside. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:30, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

:Well I need some support to back me up. this guy just redid my entire page and it'll take me some time to undo what he did since I made some corrections of my own so I can't just go back and undo him removing my section by section titles. He's being a real ass by doing this and I'm just giving up about this guy. He's and 2 other guys here are just rude, likes to call people out and just downright too forceful on opinions. I mean, I like my page and he doesn't even ask me before he changed it. It's like someone came to clean up your room when it wasn't that messy. They rearranged your DVDs and bookshelf like it's theirs. That's how I feel about this. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:43, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

::Done, but this means, any changes that NEEDS to be done, it's on me now. So I got a lot of work to do on MY page.

== Re: Black Lagoon ==

I just didn't like the way it looked with sub-sections and sub-sub-sections (the ones that don't have the section title underline, just bolded), but I looked at the way the Miami Vice page was constructed and saw that format had the guns organized by type AND looked like the other pages. I was going to redo it like that, along with the necessary grammar, link and screenshot overhaul.

As far as discussing it with Excalibur, I acknowledge that he built the page, which is very large, but if you'd check the mail call thread on the forum, I've stated my point with regard to why I'm fixing it up, and he hasn't said much more than "no I don't want you to change the page because I like what I did and it's mine and I did it", and that was amongst quite a bit of babble. In other words, discussing it with him rationally is near impossible. Furthermore, I don't think that "ownership" of a page by one party is enough to stop someone from fixing a page if it clearly needs some editing. We need to get past this "mine is mine" idea and understand that we need uniformity above all else in order to make the site look professional. We have to swallow our pride and tear down what's old and worn to rebuild it in a better image.

Anyhow, I'm getting a little preachy, so I'll end this segment of the discussion here. For the record, though, I can't edit the page any further anyhow because someone locked it. I don't know if it was you, or who did it/has the capability to lock, but I'd like to proceed with my work if that's okay.

::Ok, problem resolved between me and YNH so we're cool [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Blue Streak ==

I own the Standard DVD. I've actually finished preparing the caps I was going to use, but Blu ray would look better. If you want to take over instead, let me know. I was getting ready to screencap Menace II Society alongside this one, so I could do that instead. - [[User:Uzi870|Uzi870]] 03:48 August 13 2009 UTC

==User 67.183.66.44==
I noticed that you admonished this anonymous user for an edit he kept on changing and was wrong. I've locked him out of at least two pages because he (a) dumps gun pics on the page and doesn't bother the simplest of re-formatting to make the page not look like crap and (b) makes some gun mistakes (which normally isn't that big of a deal) but he is relentless and tireless and continuously makes changes that OTHER people have to fix. I put a 'registered users only' lock when he kept on putting the wrong gun pic that I deleted, over and over and over again. Rockwolfe has had to admonish him (and fix) details on a page twice. Argh. Well he's not a vandal, nor a heckler or profane hysterical type. He just quietly and anonymously makes tons of edits, and edits and edits.... Thoughts? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ban their punk ass!-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 06:19, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, I had to clean up ''The Iron Giant'' after he right-aligned a bunch of the images and added a lot of completely superfluous gun history to the real weapon pics. It's not like he can't have seen that the way he's doing it isn't the way articles are supposed to be formatted, given almost all his changes are later fixed, so he's either lazy, ''incredibly'' stupid, or enjoys seeing other people run around after him. I'd suggest at least a short ban to get his attention, since he looks like if he tried working with us rather than in spite of us he could be a good contributor. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 06:33, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

==Anonymous users==
Who are all these anonymous users working on Jericho? Is one of them you being too lazy to log in? ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:54, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

==Lois and Clark==
Someone put and stated that a Glock 17 is in Lois and Clark. I'm not sure which version came,but are the characters that use the Glock 17 is a Generation 1? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 16:31, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

==Re:re Lois and Clark==
I own the dvds of Lois and Clark. It's pretty much more clearer than YouTube videos since that mine's old. I screencaped most of the page as I can. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 23:10, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

==Zurak 47==
Zurak 47 said this on Lois and Clark about the S&W 3913 "Ladysmith":
The slide isn't marked "Lady Smith", which would make it a '''3913 NL''', which stands for not-ladysmith or so the rumor goes. It was made for men who wanted to carry the gun but not be marked sissy pistol. It's the exact same gun, just different marking. --[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 15:37, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I might need some help. Also I need you to help correct Lois and Clark to see if they are actually the right guns. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 18:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
*Lex doen't really checks it though because it's a flashback. It's not blurry. The tv show's old. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 18:16, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
*Thanks though. I posted some more screenshots for people to look at. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

==Gun ID Help needed==
Any idea what this pistol is? I think it may be a Star variant, but I have no idea. MPM2008

[[Image:VLM-SilverHandgunFinal06a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:VLM-SilverHandgunFinal04a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:VLM-SilverGunJeep02a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|]]

==RE X2==
Thanks, I'll either add them into the Miscellaneous or one of them P90 section. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:50, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::From Def Con 5 'eh, I better credit them to be on the safe side. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 23:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

==Wow talk about psychic==
You talked about the Rossi overland in less than 60 seconds AFTER I uploaded it. Should I overwrite the jacked LMO image? I cleaned the LMO image up a bit, but as you can tell, mine is is much better condition ;) LOL. But the jacked one is a screen used gun. The MP7A1 is mine. :) I've picked up a bunch of stuff that I have NOT had time to photograph yet. I've been catching jacked images off the web for things that are just plain stupid. Like I found the original website where that image of the customized 870 came from.
[[Image:Remington870Pstlgrip.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 with a Pachmayr checkered black rubber pistol grip and slide handle.]]
This pic is from a custom gun set that was built for the Waco Police department and is a one off. It doesn't appear in movies and yet an IMFDB member uploads the pic. Every time I put up an original pic, there are a dozen jacked images flowing into IMFDB. I don't mind if they are place holders for something we don't have yet, but it bugs me when we're still seeing jacked images in addition to the legal licensed ones I shot for the site. ARgh. Anyway, good to hear from you :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:53, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

==Terrorist supporters==
Hey MT,
As far as those people who for some idiotic reason support terrorists groups on this site like the assholes who were editing ''[[Patriot Games]]''. Personally I would warn them once and them kick and ban them. I've had friends survive terrorist attacks and as far as the IRA goes... I have ancestors who were born and raised in the Dublin area and the IRA are just a bunch of cowardly bank robbing, drug dealing, terrorists. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 17:11, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I think I should clear something up, I don't support the IRA or their action. Mearly that understand ''why'' they were fighting against the British. There is a difference. --[[User:Zurak 47|Zurak 47]] 18:54, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== RE S&W 699 in Miami Vice ==

I had originally though it was an 659 when I put it up. That's what Zeito ([[John Deil]]) uses. I think "Rafa" or "Gunman69 spotted it. But by all means, look over the page. The more eyes the better. There is bound to be a mistake or two in there. I still can't believe we passed [[Mail Call]]. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:31, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

== Is Seven Days on the ari? ==

I noticed you uploaded a lot of screencaps to Seven Days off of Spike TV and was wondering if they are reairing it again? I checked there website but it kept glitching when I checked the schedule section.

[[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]]

Don Franklin

2009-08-28T23:58:28Z

Sci Fi Gunner: added 2 links

[[Image:CDR Ford Heckler & Koch USP.png|thumb|right|400px|Don Franklin as Commander Ford with a Heckler & Koch USP]]
'''Don Franklin can be seen using the following weapons in the following television series:'''

As Commander Jonathan Devin Ford in ''[[seaQuest DSV]]'':

*Sonic Disrupter
*Pulse Pistol
*[[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]]
*[[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP|Heckler & Koch USP]]
*[[Luger P08]]
*[[Ruger Mini-14#Ruger Mini-14 in Muzzelite™ MZ14 Bullpup Stock|Ruger Mini-14 in Muzzelite™ MZ14 Bullpup Stock]]
*[[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M100|Calico M100]]
*[[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M110|Calico M110]]
*[[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M900|Calico M900]]

As Captain Frank Donovan in ''[[Seven Days]]'':
*[[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series|SIG-Sauer P226]]
*[[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92F/FS|Beretta M9]]
*[[M16A1]] (with M16A2 hand guards)
*[[M16A2]]

As FBI Agent Ron Sacks in ''[[NCIS]]'':
*[[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series|SIG-Sauer P228]]

[[Category:Actor]]
[[Category:Actor Male]]

Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake

2009-08-15T17:45:42Z

Sci Fi Gunner: /* M67 hand grenade */ to M68

M67 hand grenade

2009-08-15T17:44:58Z

Sci Fi Gunner: added M68

The '''M67''' was developed at the same time as the M61 (which is an improved version of the M26 grenade). Though developed during the late 1950s, it was not fielded until the late 1960s. Most of the grenades used in Vietnam were of the M26/61 variety prior to 1968. After 1969 the M67 was the foremost issued grenade in the field.

The '''M68''' hand grenade is identical to the M67 in appearance, the only difference between the two is the fuse. The M68 is a impact fragmentation hand grenade with a time delay backup. If the impact should fail the timer will detonate after 3-7 seconds depending on the temperature.

The practice version , the '''M69 Training Grenade''' (the inert blue painted pot metal dummy), is the version MOST likely to appear in films, since movies and television shows have no need for live ordnance. The practice version, 99% of the time is painted Olive Drab Green (which is wrong, since the real M67 and M68 have a more brownish color).

'''The M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation (HE-Frag) hand grenade has appeared in the following films, television series, video games, and anime used by the following actors:'''
[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|right|350px|M69 training grenade - an inert version of the M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade. The real live version has a more brownish color and has painted factory markings on the body.]]

=== Film ===

* [[Will Smith]] as Dr. Robert Neville in ''[[I am Legend]]''

* Arius' men and [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] as John Matrix in ''[[Commando]]''

* [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] as Dutch in ''[[Predator]]'' (along with a few other of the commandos)

* U.S. Army Rangers and Delta Force operatives in ''[[Black Hawk Down]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[Jarhead]]''

* [[Pauly Shore]] as Bones Conway in ''[[In the Army Now]]''

* [[Jean-Claude Van Damme]] as Chance Boudreaux and [[Lance Henriksen]] as Emil Fouchon in ''[[Hard Target]]''

* [[Colin Farrell]] as Sonny Crockett in ''[[Miami Vice (2006)|Miami Vice]]''

* U.S. Marines in ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]''

* U.S. Navy SEALs in ''[[Tears of the Sun]]''

=== Television ===

* ''[[V.I.P.]]''
* ''[[Weaponology]]''

=== Video Games ===

* ''[[Rainbow Six: Vegas 2]]''

* ''[[Kane and Lynch: Dead Men]]''

* ''[[Battlefield 2]]'' (as the "Hand Gerenade")

* ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]''
* ''[[Modern Warfare 2]]''
* ''[[America's Army]]''

* ''[[America's Army 3]]''

* ''[[Combat Arms]]'' (as the "M67" and the "M69HE FRAG", the latter erroneously shown as a more powerful version)

* ''[[Far Cry 2]]'' (shown with manufacturer's marks but with an obvious weld seam like an M69)

=== Anime ===

* Spike Spiegel in ''[[Cowboy Bebop]]''

* Vincent Volaju in ''[[Cowboy Bebop the Movie: Knockin' on Heaven's Door]]''

* Batou in ''[[Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex]]''

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[[Category:Grenade]]

Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake

2009-08-14T01:13:14Z

Sci Fi Gunner: expanded

Sea Patrol

2009-08-14T00:46:56Z

Sci Fi Gunner: Heckler & Koch MP5A3

Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA

2009-08-14T00:38:39Z

Sci Fi Gunner: /* Television */ minor change

==Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA series of Pistol and Carbines==
[[Image:Claridge_HiTech_S9.jpg‎|thumb|400px|right|Claridge Hi-Tec S9 Pistol - 9mm]]
[[Image:ClaridgeHiTec9mmTR.jpg‎|thumb|400px|right|Claridge Hi-Tec S9 Pistol with cooling fin muzzle extension (used in the movie Total Recall) - 9mm]]
[[Image:GonczGA-9.jpg‎|thumb|right|400px|Goncz GA-9 Long Barrel pistol - 9mm]]
[[Image:GonczGA-9Side.jpg‎|thumb|right|400px|Goncz GA-9 - target version of Goncz GS-9 - 9mm]]
The Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA has a controversial history, primarily due to the feud between the designer Lajos John Goncz and his own Goncz Armament, Inc. of North Hollywood, CA and the subsequent manufacturers of the gun, Joe and Gail Claridge of Claridge Hi-Tec, Inc. in Northridge, CA. Goncz designed the original pistol and rifle carbine versions of the firearm between 1984 and 1990. Claridge took over production and made some slight manufacturing changes (changes that Goncz did not agree witih) and produced more firearms in the years between 1990 and 1994, when they were forced to close shop due to legal problems with Goncz. Despite their feud, both versions of the firearms are finely machined pistols with some heft and finish. The versions of the guns are nearly identical outwardly except for the manufacturer's name on the sides. There are several versions of the Goncz/Claridge pistol - a short barreled standard version, a slightly longer barrel '''match''' version and the 16" barrel '''carbine''' with slight variations within each subcategory - including a choice between a deep blued finish and a satin steel finish.

'''The Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA can be seen in the following:'''

==Films==

* [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] as Douglas Quaid and [[Rachel Ticotin]] in ''[[Total Recall]]''

* A Space Marine and the Leprechaun in ''[[Leprechaun 4: In Space]]'' - (Goncz GA-9)

* Various Gang members in ''[[The Intruder]]'' - (Claridge LEC9 Carbine)

* [[Antonio Banderas]] in ''[[Assassins]]'' - (Claridge LEC9 Carbine)

* [[Mark Wahlberg]] as Captain Leo Davidson in ''[[Planet of the Apes (2001)]]''

* Mexican Military units in ''[[Once Upon a Time in Mexico]]'' ' - (Claridge LEC9 Carbine)

==Television==

* A standard Goncz GA-9 pistol and a Goncz GA-9 with cooling fin muzzle extension were used as Pulse Pistols on ''[[seaQuest DSV]]'' in the episode "And Everything Nice", and a Goncz GA-9 with cooling fin was carried by Section 7 officer Colonel Manheim ([[Marc Macaulay]]).

[[Category:Gun]]

Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA

2009-08-14T00:37:54Z

Sci Fi Gunner: /* Television */ Marc Macaulay

==Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA series of Pistol and Carbines==
[[Image:Claridge_HiTech_S9.jpg‎|thumb|400px|right|Claridge Hi-Tec S9 Pistol - 9mm]]
[[Image:ClaridgeHiTec9mmTR.jpg‎|thumb|400px|right|Claridge Hi-Tec S9 Pistol with cooling fin muzzle extension (used in the movie Total Recall) - 9mm]]
[[Image:GonczGA-9.jpg‎|thumb|right|400px|Goncz GA-9 Long Barrel pistol - 9mm]]
[[Image:GonczGA-9Side.jpg‎|thumb|right|400px|Goncz GA-9 - target version of Goncz GS-9 - 9mm]]
The Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA has a controversial history, primarily due to the feud between the designer Lajos John Goncz and his own Goncz Armament, Inc. of North Hollywood, CA and the subsequent manufacturers of the gun, Joe and Gail Claridge of Claridge Hi-Tec, Inc. in Northridge, CA. Goncz designed the original pistol and rifle carbine versions of the firearm between 1984 and 1990. Claridge took over production and made some slight manufacturing changes (changes that Goncz did not agree witih) and produced more firearms in the years between 1990 and 1994, when they were forced to close shop due to legal problems with Goncz. Despite their feud, both versions of the firearms are finely machined pistols with some heft and finish. The versions of the guns are nearly identical outwardly except for the manufacturer's name on the sides. There are several versions of the Goncz/Claridge pistol - a short barreled standard version, a slightly longer barrel '''match''' version and the 16" barrel '''carbine''' with slight variations within each subcategory - including a choice between a deep blued finish and a satin steel finish.

'''The Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA can be seen in the following:'''

==Films==

* [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] as Douglas Quaid and [[Rachel Ticotin]] in ''[[Total Recall]]''

* A Space Marine and the Leprechaun in ''[[Leprechaun 4: In Space]]'' - (Goncz GA-9)

* Various Gang members in ''[[The Intruder]]'' - (Claridge LEC9 Carbine)

* [[Antonio Banderas]] in ''[[Assassins]]'' - (Claridge LEC9 Carbine)

* [[Mark Wahlberg]] as Captain Leo Davidson in ''[[Planet of the Apes (2001)]]''

* Mexican Military units in ''[[Once Upon a Time in Mexico]]'' ' - (Claridge LEC9 Carbine)

==Television==

* A standard Goncz GA-9 pistol and a Goncz GA-9 with cooling fin muzzle extension were used as Pulse Pistols on ''[[seaQuest DSV]]'' in the episode "And Everything Nice", and a Goncz GA-9 with cooling fin was carried by Section 7s Col. Manheim ([[Marc Macaulay]]).

[[Category:Gun]]

File:SP Thugs.png

2009-08-14T00:31:34Z

Sci Fi Gunner: Category: Screenshot

[[Category: Screenshot]]

File:MG2 Stinger.png

2009-08-14T00:31:08Z

Sci Fi Gunner: Category: Screenshot

[[Category: Screenshot]]

File:MG2 Plastic.png

2009-08-14T00:30:58Z

Sci Fi Gunner: Category: Screenshot

[[Category: Screenshot]]

File:MG2 M-78 Landmine.png

2009-08-14T00:30:47Z

Sci Fi Gunner: Category: Screenshot

[[Category: Screenshot]]

File:MG2 Hind.png

2009-08-14T00:30:36Z

Sci Fi Gunner: Category: Screenshot

[[Category: Screenshot]]

File:MG2 Grenade Red Blaster Model 24 Stielhandgranate.png

2009-08-14T00:30:24Z

Sci Fi Gunner: Category: Screenshot

[[Category: Screenshot]]

File:MG2 Dragon.png

2009-08-14T00:30:12Z

Sci Fi Gunner: Category: Screenshot

[[Category: Screenshot]]

Mk 19 Grenade Launcher

2009-08-08T16:04:34Z

Sci Fi Gunner: sQ

'''The Mk 19 grenade launcher has appeared in the following films, television series, and video games used by the following actors:'''
[[Image:MK19-02.jpg|thumb|400px|right|Mk 19 grenade launcher 40mm with ammo box on M3 tripod]]

=== Film ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[War of the Worlds]] || || U.S. Army soldiers || Mounted on Humvee || 2005
|-
| [[Jarhead]] || || U.S. Marines || Mounted on Humvee || 2005
|-
| [[Jurassic Park III]] || || U.S. Marines || Mounted on Amphibious Assault Vehicles || 2001
|-
| [[GoldenEye]] || || Lab Technicians || Mounted on All-Terrain Vehicle || 1995
|-
|}

=== Television ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[seaQuest DSV]] || || UEO Marines || Mounted on Humvee || 1995
|-
| [[Generation Kill]] || || U.S. Marines || Mounted on Humvee || 2007
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]] || || Mounted on CH-46 Sea Knight helicopter || 2007
|-
| [[Conflict: Desert Storm II: Back to Baghdad]] || || || 2003
|-
| [[Far Cry]] || Mortar || || 2004
|-
| [[Far Cry 2]] || || || 2008
|-
| [[Battlefield 2: Modern Combat]] || || || 2005
|-
| [[Delta Force: Land Warrior]] || Auto-Grenade || || 2000
|-
| [[America's Army 3]] || || Seen on loading screen, non-playable || 2009
|-
|}

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Grenade Launcher]]
[[Category:Machine Gun]]

Sea Patrol

2009-08-08T15:42:54Z

Sci Fi Gunner: clean up

JAG

2009-08-08T15:34:40Z

Sci Fi Gunner: clean up

[[Image:JAGSeason01Cover.jpg|thumb|right‎|300px|JAG (1995-2005) Television Series]]
''The following weapons were used in the US Drama series '''JAG''':''

==[[Beretta 92FS]]==
Standard Issue side-arm for the US military and is used in various episodes throughout ''JAG'' by Lieutenant Commander Harmon Rabb, Admiral A.J. Chegwidden, Lieutenant Colonel Sarah Mackenzie and various other US Military personnel.

[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|400px|none|92FS; Chambered in 9x19mm. Used in ''JAG'' as the standard Issued Fire Arm of the US Military]]
[[Image:Austin and Krennick with Beretta.png|thumb|none|500px|Lt JG Austin and Cdr Krennick with their Berettas]]

==[[Heckler & Koch MP5# Heckler & Koch MP5A2|Heckler & Koch MP5N]]==
Used in episodes featuring Navy SEALs, with and without silencers.

[[Image:H&KMP5-N.jpg|thumb|400px|none|MP5; Chambered in 9x19mm.]]

==[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5K]]==

The Heckler & Koch MP5K is seen used frequently over the series, most notably by Rabb to rescue Lieutenant Painter in "Defensive Action" and to prove his point by shooting a courtroom ceiling in "Heroes".

[[Image:MP5KA3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Heckler & Koch MP5K 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Rabb with MP5K.png|thumb|none|500px|Rabb rescuing "Painter"]]
[[Image:JAG Rabb Heckler & Koch MP5K.png‎|thumb|none|500px|Rabb shooting up the courtroom.]]

==[[M16]]==
Frequently seen in the flashbacks to Vietnam, such as in the episode "Survivors".

[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M16, note the screen used one had two magazines taped together "jungle style".]]
[[Image:JAG flashback orig M16 Rifle.png‎ ‎|thumb|none|500px|Marine in flashback with M16]]

==[[M16 rifle series#M16A1|M16 rifle series]]==
Various styles of M16s appeared in ''JAG'' during the shows long run. M16A1s with A2 hand guards were frequently used in the show to simulate M16A2s. These guns make sense in ''JAG'', because the military does use a lot of "Frankenstein" M16s. The Air Force being the worst offender, but they can be found in service with all branches.

Can also be seen in the episode "Code of Conduct" being used by the SEALs and incorrectly shown being used by a US Army Special Forces Soldier in "Tribunal".

[[Image:M16A1wA2Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with A2 style handguards - 5.56x45mm. Putting the distinctive A2 handguards on the older rifle was a method used by Movie/TV armorers to simulate A2 rifles when M16A1s were the only ones available. The same thing has been done vice-versa, Using M16A2's with A1 handguards for Vietnam War B Movies.]]
[[Image:Marine with M16A2 JAG.png‎ |thumb|none|500px|Marine with M16A1 w/ A2 handguards]]

==[[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series|CAR-15]] Rifle with a [[M203 grenade launcher]]==
Occasionally seen being carried by various members of the US armed forces on the show. Notice how the M203 barrel is the same length as the rifle barrel. If you enlarge the photo you can see it has a sound moderator.

[[Image:M203.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M203 grenade launcher]]
[[image:JAG M16A2 Rifle with a M203 grenade launcher.png|thumb|500px|none|Marine carrying a CAR-15 with a M203 grenade launcher]]

==[[FIM-92A Stinger]]==
A stinger missile was stolen and used in the season 1 episode "Brig Break".

[[Image:-0976t.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Stinger Missile]]
[[Image:Stinger JAG.png|thumb|none|500px|A Stinger about to be fired.]]

==[[MAC-10#MAC-11|MAC-11]]==
Rabb and several bodyguards were armed with MAC-11s in the season 1 episode "War Cries".

[[Image:Mac m11 9k.jpg|thumb|400px|none|MAC-11]]
[[Image:Rabb with MAC-11.png|thumb|none|500px|Rabb with MAC-11]]

==[[Remington 870 Shotgun]]==
Found and used by Rabb in the episode "Sightings".

[[Image:SawnoffShotgun2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sawed of Remington 870]]
[[Image:Rabb with Remington 870 Shotgun.png|thumb|none|500px|Rabb with an sawn off 870 with the stock folded]]

==[[Browning 308]]==
A Browning 308 was the personal hunting rifle of one of Lieutenant Commander Rabbs clients in "Survivors".

[[Image:Browning 308 in JAG.png|thumb|500px|none|Browning 308 in "Survivors"]]

==[[Smith & Wesson 5906]]==
A Smith and Wesson was the sidearms used by the local sheriffs in "Survivors".

[[Image:S&W5906EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson 5906 - Early Model]]
[[Image:JAG Sheriffs with gun.png|thumb|500px|none|Sheriffs with Smith & Wesson 5906]]

==[[SA Vz.61 Skorpion]]==
Seen being used by Russian Secret Service in season 1s "Hemlock", and by members of "The Shining Path" in "War Cries".

[[Image:Skorpion-SA-VZ-61.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Skorpion SA Vz 61 .38 ACP]]
[[Image:Russian SS with Skorpion.png|thumb|none|500px|Russian SS with Skorpion]]
[[Image:Shining Path member with Skorpion.png|thumb|none|500px|Head of "The Shining Path" with Skorpion]]

==[[AK-47|Kalashnikov]] and [[Norinco Type 56|Norinco]] Rifles==
During the shows ten seasons several episodes were set in Russia, Chechnya, Cuba, Iraq, China, etc, as well as flashbacks to the Korean War, Vietnam, and the Cold War. Throughout this many varieties of Kalashnikov rifles have been seen, as well as the Chinese manufactured Norinco rifles. Unlike most movies and television shows ''JAG'' was usually pretty accurate about having the right rifle type for the locations.

[[Image:AK-47.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Original AK-47 design hybrid]]
[[Image:Type56Standard.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Standard Type 56]]
[[Image:Iraqui Guard With AK-47 JAG.png‎ |thumb|none|500px|Iraqi Guard With an AKM]]
[[Image:Chinese guard with type 56.png|thumb|none|500px|Chinese guard with type 56]]

==[[Tokarev TT-33 Pistol#Norinco Type 54 / Model 213 Pistol|Norinco Type 54]]==
Seen being used/carried by Chinese officers.

[[Image:Tokarev NorincoM213B.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 54 Model 213 with blued finish]]
[[Image:Chinese Officers Jag.png|thumb|none|500px|Chinese Officer with Type 54]]

==[[Type 69 RPG]]==
The Type 69 was used by terrorists in the season 1 episode "War Cries".

[[Image:Type69RPG.jpg |thumb|none|400px|Type 69 RPG 40mm]]
[[Image:Shining Path type 56.png|thumb|none|500px|Shining Path member about to fire a Type 69]]

==[[Colt M1911A1]]==
Used by Jason Magida in the episode "Secrets" when he holds the JAG staff hostage and Admiral Chegwidden in "Ghosts" to hold Osbourne at gun point. Also used by then Lieutenant Boone in "A Separate Peace" to shoot and kill An Le Tam.

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Parkerized Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP.]]
[[Image:JAG M1911A1 1.png‎|thumb|500px|none|Chegwidden loads his old M1911A1.]]

==[[Browning Hi-Power]]==
Used by British Forces in "Trinity".

[[Image:Inglis Hi-Power.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Inglis Hi-Power 9x19mm]]
[[Image:JAG Browning.png|thumb|none|500px|Officer with Browning (with a leaf sight)]]

==[[FN FAL]]==
Used by British Forces in "Trinity".

[[Image:FN FAL 50 00.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN FAL 50.00 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:JAG FN FAL.png|thumb|none|500px|Soldiers with FN FALs]]

==[[Sterling SMG]]==
Used by British Forces in "Trinity".

[[Image:SterlingSMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sterling Submachine Gun - 9mm]]
[[Image:JAG SMG.png‎|thumb|none|500px|Soldier with a Sterling SMG. It should be noted that the producers of ''JAG'' took this scene directly from the film ''In The Name Of The Father'' and reused it in the episode]]

==[[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|M4 Carbine]]==
Used by Marines in the episodes "The Boast" and "Death at the Mosque", with and without various attachments.

[[Image:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M4 Rifle;Chambered in 5.56x45mm. Used in ''JAG'' by Marines with and without various attachments]]

==[[FN Minimi#FN Minimi / M249|FN M249 SAW]]==
Used by Marines when advancing to their target in "Death at the Mosque"

[[Image:Fn m249saw mk2 10-1-.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M249 SAW; Chambered 5.56x45mm.]]

==[[Benelli M Series Super 90 Shotguns#Benelli M3|Benelli M3]]==
Used by the Admiral and Harm in "Going After Francesca"

[[Image:Benelli m3-1-.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M3 Shotgun;Chambered in 12 Gauge, 0-0 Buckshot.]]

[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Crime]]
[[Category:War]]

SeaQuest DSV

2009-08-03T19:53:17Z

Sci Fi Gunner:

[[Image:SeaquestDSV-Season1&2.jpg|thumb|right|225px|DVD covers for season 1 and 2]]
The majority of the weapons used throughout the ''seaQuest'' universe are real weapons with some attachments. Most of the fictional weapons also have parts molded off real weapons.

=Custom Weapons=
==Sonic Disrupter/Pulse Pistol==
A [[Beretta M93R]] handle was molded and used to make the Sonic Disrupters in season 1, which were later modified for use as a pulse gun used by Police Officers and the Macronesian Alliance in seasons 2 and 3. Two versions were used in season 1, half way through the season a slightly more detailed black and silver version replaced the older all black design.
[[Image:Beretta93-1-.jpg|thumb|none|319px|Beretta 93R 9mm]]
[[Image:SeaQuest gun s1.png|thumb|none|319px|Older Sonic Disrupter from seaQuest DSV season 1]]
[[Image:Dr. Westphalen with Pulse Pistol.png|thumb|none|450px|Dr. Westphalen with original Sonic Disrupter]]
[[Image:Seaquest-DSV-Prop-Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|319px|Second version pistol from seaQuest DSV]]
[[Image:Regulator with disrupter.png|thumb|none|450px|Regulator with a stolen Sonic Disrupter]]
[[Image:SQ Police.png|thumb|none|319px|Sonic Disrupter modified for use as a Pulse Gun]]
[[Image:SeaQuest Cop.png|thumb|none|450px|New Cape Quest Cop with a Pulse Pistol]]

==Pulse Pistol==
One of the few weapons made entirely from scratch for the show the Pulse Pistol is a multi setting weapon that was the main sidearm of UEO personnel for season 2 and 3, replacing the Sonic Disrupter of the first season. The settings are low stun, heavy stun, kill and the fourth setting is powerful enough to cause small explosions.
[[Image:Pulse Pistol seaQuest DSV.jpg|thumb|none|319px|UEO Pulse Pistol]]
[[Image:Ford with Pulse Pistol.png|thumb|none|450px|Ford with a Pulse Pistol]]
[[Image:SQ Pulse Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Picollo with Pulse Pistol]]

==Abalons Energy Weapons==
In the season 1 episode "Abalon" 2 guns of unknown power and type were seen being wielded by the cloned "children" of Abalon, a Geneticist played by [[Charlton Heston]]. It is assumed Abalon also designed the weapons. The pistol below was also used in the show ''[[Firefly]]'' in the episode "Trash" as the Lassiter, an ancient laser pistol.
[[Image:Abalon gun 1.png|thumb|none|450px|Ford being held captive by one of Abalons sons]]

[[Image:Abalon gun 2.png|thumb|none|450px|One of Abalons "sons" with the other type of weapon]]

=="Sprinkler" Pistol==
A gun made by a G.E.L.F. inmate in the season 2 premiere "Daggers" using a pipe, pulse sprinkler, CO2 Cartridge and some other odd bits.
[[Image:Kitbash gun.png|thumb|none|450px|Weapon made from common items]]

==Laser Drill gun==
In the third season 2 episode there was a riot at an undersea colony. Since there were no weapons Jim Huxley, being chased by rioters, converted a laser drill to be used as a pulse rifle, although it turned out the rioters were a hallucination.
[[Image:Laser drill gun.png|thumb|none|450px|Laser drill weapon]]

==Tranquilizer Dart Gun 1==
In "And Everything Nice" Lucas is kidnapped by this man after he shoots Lucas with two tranquilizer darts.
[[Image:SeaQuest Tranquilizer Dart Gun.png‎|thumb|none|450px|One of Dr. Kirbys thugs shoots Lucas with a Dart gun]]

==Unusual Gun 1==
A custom made gun used by one of the thugs and Sandra Kirby in "And Everything Nice".
[[Image:SeaQuest Mystry Gun 1a.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Thug with the custom gun]]
[[Image:SeaQuest Mystry Gun 1B.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Sandra Kirby with the gun]]

==Tranquilizer Dart Gun 2==
A custom made dart gun used in "Something in the Air".
[[Image:SQ Dart Gun.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Thug with the custom gun]]

==Grenade Launcher==
Likely a custom made prop, this grenade launcher was used during a prison break in "Daggers Redux".
[[Image:SQ unknown grenade launcher 1.png|thumb|none|450px|Small enough to hide up a flight suit sleeve]]
[[Image:SQ unknown grenade launcher 2.png|thumb|none|450px|Being fired]]

==Taser==
A custom made taser used by Mariah in "Daggers Redux".
[[Image:SeaQuest Taser.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Thug with the custom gun]]

=Pistol=
==[[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]]==
The Glock 19 was the standard pistol for ueo forces during season 1 and 2.
[[Image:Wviewpoint 0430.jpg|thumb|none|319px|Glock 19]]
[[Image:Crocker and Shan with Glocks.png|thumb|none|450px|Crocker and Shan with Glocks]]
[[Image:LT Brody with Glock.png|thumb|none|450px|LT Brody with a Glock]]

==[[Heckler & Koch USP#Heckler & Koch USP|Heckler & Koch USP]]==
This was used a few times in season 2, most notably by Commander Ford and Chief Ortiz in "When We Dead Awaken".
[[Image:USP9mm.jpg|thumb|none|319px|Heckler & Koch USP]]
[[Image:CDR Ford Heckler & Koch USP.png|thumb|none|450px|CDR Ford with a Heckler & Koch USP]]
[[Image:SQ Guard with Heckler & Koch USP.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Guard with Heckler & Koch USP]]

==[[Heckler & Koch VP70]]==
This was used by [[David Morse]] and [[David McCallum]] in the season 1 episode "SeaWest".
[[Image:HK VP70Z 1890.jpg|thumb|none|319px|Heckler & Koch VP70]]
[[Image:Sq Heckler & Koch VP70 2.png‎|thumb|none|450px|David Morse as Lenny Sutter with a VP70]]
[[Image:Sq Heckler & Koch VP70 1.png|thumb|none|450px|David McCallum as Frank Cobb with a VP70]]

==[[Ruger P90]]==
The pistol carried by Milos Tezlof ([[William Shatner]]) is a Ruger P90. He handed it over to Capt. Bridger upon boarding the seaQuest in the season 1 episode "Hide and Seek".
[[Image:RugerP90Side.jpg‎|thumb|none|319px|Ruger P90]]
[[Image:Shatner with Gun.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Milos Tezlof with Ruger P90]]

==[[Beretta 92FS]]==
In the season 1 episode "The Good Death" The police officers of the Amazonian Confederation were armed with the two tone Beretta 92FS.
[[Image:Beretta_two_tone-1-.jpg|thumb|319px|none|Factory two tone Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:SQ cop with two tone Beretta 92FS.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Amazonian Confederation cop with two tone Beretta 92FS]]

==[[Beretta 950 Jetfire]]==
A Beretta 950 Jetfire with a Pearlite handle was carried up the sleeve of an assassin sent to kill Lieutenant Brodys mother in "When We Dead Awaken".
[[Image:Blank firing Beretta Jetfire 950.jpg|thumb|none|319px|Blank firing Jetfire‎]]
[[Image:SQ Beretta 950 Jetfire with Pearlite handle 1.png|thumb|450px|none|Pops out of sleeve like in "Wild, Wild West"]]
[[Image:SQ Beretta 950 Jetfire with Pearlite handle 2.png|thumb|450px|none|Being fired]]

==Commander Fords Gun Collection==
Commander Ford has a small collection of antique military pistols in his quarters consisting of several revolvers and a couple automatic pistols. Unfortunately the only ones clearly seen are a Luger P08 and a Mauser C96.
[[Image:Fords Gun Collection.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Dr. Wendy Smith in front of Fords collection]]
[[Image:Smith in front of Fords Gun Collection.png‎ |thumb|none|450px|Dr. Smith in front of Fords collection, different angle]]

==[[Luger P08]]==
[[Image:P08Luger1917.jpg‎|thumb|none|319px|Luger P08 circa 1917]]
[[Image:Fords Luger P08.png‎ ‎|thumb|none|450px|Ford with his Luger P08]]

==[[Mauser C96]]==
[[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|319px|Pre-War dated Mauser C96 "Broomhandle" Commercial Version - 7.63x25mm]]
[[Image:Fords Mauser.png|thumb|none|450px|Fords Mauser on the wall display]]

==[[Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA|Goncz GA-9]]==
Due to the odd design Goncz GA-9s were used in in ''seaQuest'' as pulse pistols. Two different models were used in the season 2 episode "And Everything Nice", and Col. Manheim was also armed with one in "Alone". The weapons pictured are the near identical Claridge HiTech pistol, the most noticeable difference being the two tone colour of the Goncz GA-9 is absent on the all black Claridge.
[[Image:Claridge HiTech S9.jpg‎|thumb|none|319px|Claridge Hi-Tec version of the same model]]
[[Image:Unknown gun.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Lucas' kidnapper with Goncz GA-9]]
[[Image:ClaridgeHiTec9mmTR.jpg‎|thumb|none|319px|Claridge Hi-Tec S9 Pistol with cooling fin muzzle extension]]
[[Image:Unknown gun 2.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Thug with a Goncz GA-9 with cooling fin muzzle extension]]
[[Image:Manhiem.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Col. Manheim of "Section 7" with a Goncz GA-9]]

=Machine Guns=
==[[Heckler & Koch HK94]]==
The Heckler & Koch HK94 was a standard weapon for Amazonian Confederation Army personnel.
[[Image:HK94.jpg|thumb|319px|none|Heckler & Koch HK94]]
[[Image:SQ Amazonion Army with Heckler & Koch HK94.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Amazonian Confederation Sargent with Heckler & Koch HK94]]
[[Image:SQ Amazonion Army with Heckler & Koch HK94 2.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Corporal with a Heckler & Koch HK94]]

==[[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5K]]==
A group of eco terrorists and mercenaries led by a rouge UEO Colonel take over seaQuest during the first season episode "Nothing But The Truth". The weapon carried by most of them is the Heckler & Koch MP5K, as well as Ford and Krieg who disarmed a couple of the mercenaries. The weapons were actually modified SP89s since the real MP5Ks were still difficult to get at the time.

[[Image:H&K-MP5KEarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|319px|A "faux" Heckler & Koch MP5K - this is an original SP89 pistol converted to full auto fire by a Class III armorer.]]
[[Image:sQ Terrorist with Heckler & Koch MP5K.png|thumb|none|450px|Mercenary with a Heckler & Koch MP5K]]
[[Image:Ford with Heckler & Koch MP5K.png|thumb|none|450px|Ford with a Heckler & Koch MP5K]]

=Rifles=
==[[Ruger Mini-14#Ruger Mini-14 in Muzzelite™ MZ14 Bullpup Stock|Ruger Mini-14 in Muzzelite™ MZ14 Bullpup Stock]]==
The Ruger in the MZ14 Bullpup Stock with a flash suppressor and a flashlight attachment was the standard rile for season 1 and 2. It could also be seen with a custom made (and presumably non-functional) under barrel grenade launcher similar in design to a [[M203 grenade launcher]] but with no visible trigger. It was modified for the last season, the Ruger and most attachments were removed and the clamshell covers were modified and used as Pulse Rifles by the Macronesian Alliance.
[[Image:RugerMuzzelite.jpg|thumb|none|319px|Ruger Mini-14 in a Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup stock]]
[[image:Shan with a Muzzelite rifle.png|thumb|none|450px|Shan with a Muzzelite that also has one of the custom grenade launchers attached]]
[[Image:Muzzelite rifle seaQuest.png|thumb|none|450px|Muzzelite rifle being used by UEO Marines]]

==[[Steyr AUG]]==
Used by Montagnard Confederation (a unified Vietnam in the future) soldiers in the first season episode "Better Than Martians".
[[Image:SteyrAUGBlack.jpg|thumb|none|319px|Steyr AUG - 5.56mm]]
[[Image:Montagnards with Steyr AUG rifle.png|thumb|none|450px|Montagnards with Steyr AUG rifle]]

==[[Remington 700]]==
An assassin shoots at Lt. Brodys mother with a Remington 700 in "When We Dead Awaken".
[[Image:Remington 700 BDL.jpg|thumb|none|319px|Remington 700 .308 Winchester]]
[[Image:Unknown Sniper Rifle sQ.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Assassin with a Remington 700]]

==[[M16A2]]==
In 2032 Ben Krieg and several other Macronesian refugees were armed with M16A2 Rifles in the episode "In The Company Of Ice And Profit".
[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|319px|none|M16A2 Rifle - 5.56x45mm.]]
[[Image:Krieg 2032.png|thumb|none|450px|Krieg with a M16A2 Rifle]]

==[[Ruger Mini-14]]==
The Ruger, sans Muzzelite™ MZ14 Bullpup Stock, was briefly seen in the hands of Macronesian refugees in the episode "In The Company Of Ice And Profit".
[[Image:Ruger-Mini-14.jpg|thumb|319px|none|Blued Ruger Mini-14 Standard Model Semiautomatic Rifle (Pre-2005) with 30 round magazine - 5.56mm]]
[[Image:Ruger in 2032.png‎ |thumb|none|450px|Refugee with a Ruger Mini 14. Note it still has the flash suppressor from season 1.]]

=Calico Weapons=
==[[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M100|Calico M100]]==
This was used as a Pulse rifle in the second season of seaQuest. Most of the different Calico guns made an appearance at some point but this one was used the most in season 2.
[[Image:CalicoM100.jpg‎|thumb|none|319px|Calico M100 Rifle]]
[[Image:Brody with M100.png|thumb|none|450px|Brody with a Calico M100]]
[[Image:Ortiz Calico 100.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ortiz with a Calico M100]]

==[[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M110|Calico M110]]==
These were occasionally used by the seaQuest crew in the second season.
[[Image:CalicoM110.jpg‎|thumb|none|319px|Calico M110 Rifle]]
[[Image:Henderson M 110.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Henderson with a M-110]]
[[Image:Picoolo with Calico M-110.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Picoolo with a Calico M-110]]

==[[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M900|Calico M900]]==
This was also occasionally in season 2. While the M100 was seen to fire of individual shots for each pull of the trigger this one had a continues beam as long as the trigger was held. In the third season they added M951 style foregrips and modified the barrel and this was used as the standard pulse rifle until the end of the series.
[[Image:Calico-M900Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|319px|Calico M900 - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Brody with M900.png|thumb|none|450px|Brody with a Calico M-900]]
[[Image:Marine M-900.png|thumb|none|450px|Marine with a M-900]]
[[Image:CalicoM900.jpg‎|thumb|none|319px|Calico M900 with M951 style fore grip]]
[[Image:Rifle 2032.jpg‎ |thumb|none|450px|Brody with a modified M-900]]

==[[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M950A|Calico M950A]]==
These were used mainly in the background or by extras. These were the least used of all the Calico weapons on the show.
[[Image:CalicoM950.jpg‎|thumb|none|319px|Calico M950 pistol]]
[[Image:GELF with M-950.png‎|thumb|none|450px|GELF (upper left) with a M-950]]
[[Image:Calico 950A in sQ s2.png‎|thumb|none|450px|seaQuest security officer with a M-950]]

=Shotgun=
==[[12 Gauge Pump Shotgun]]==
A New Cape Quest police officer with an unidentified shotgun in "Special Delivery". Due to the lighting and the short amount of screen time it's unlikely to be identified with 100% certainty. Likely a [[Remington 870]], [[Mossberg 500]] or a [[Winchester 1300]].
[[Image:SQ cop with shotgun.png‎|thumb|none|450px|Cop with unknown Shotgun]]

=Grenade Launchers=
==[[S&W gas gun#DefTec 37mm gas gun‎|DefTec 37mm gas gun]]==
This was used as a grenade launcher in a season 2 episode where Lucas was kidnapped by Terrorists who were after the seaQuest.
[[Image:DefTech1315.jpg|thumb|none|319px|DefTec Gas Gun]]
[[Image:DefTec 37mm gas gun 2 seaQuest.png‎|thumb|none|450px|A terrorist shooting at Lucas with a DefTec Gas Gun]]
[[Image:SeaQuest DefTec 37mm gas gun.png|thumb|none|450px|A terrorist with DefTec Gas Gun]]

==[[Mk 19 grenade launcher]]==
A Mk 19 grenade launcher was seen on top of an armed ueo transport in "Daggers Redux".
[[Image:MK19-02.jpg|thumb|319px|none|Mk 19 grenade launcher 40mm with ammo box on M3 tripod]]
[[Image:SeaQuest Mk 19 grenade launcher.png‎|thumb|none|450px|A marine manning a Mk 19 grenade launcher]]

[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Science-Fiction]]

12 Gauge Pump Shotgun

2009-08-03T19:50:16Z

Sci Fi Gunner: /* Remington 870 vs Mossberg 500 vs Winchester 1300 */ links added

This is a page for all of the 'mystery' pump shotguns in films (usually obscure models from foreign makers). As more information is gathered, these guns will be identified.

Also there is a guide to recognizing pump shotguns by noting the specific details which make them unique.

==12 Gauge Pump Shotgun Recognition Guide==
There are many 12 gauge shotguns that are very unique looking and easy to identify. This page is dedicated to the most common pump shotguns that people tend to confuse with each other.

Just like the Big Three Auto makers in the U.S. (GM, Chrysler & Ford), there are the (current) Big Three Pump Shotgun makers in the U.S. - Remington, Winchester and Mossberg. The three most common pump shotguns now are the Remington 870, the Mossberg 500/590, and the Winchester Model 1200/1300. Prior to the 1960s, the three most common pump shotguns were the Remington 870, the Ithaca Model 37 and the Winchester Model 12. Mossberg aggressively went after Ithaca's market share and got it.

Most pump shotguns that currently appear in films are one of these manufacturers, no offense to fine makers like Savage, Stevens, Browning, etc. There are far more Side by Side and O/U Shotgun makers represented in the U.S. and the world (especially the high priced European makers), but most of the Pump shotguns used by police/military/civilians are from one of these companies.

This recognition guide will grow with additions of other major manufacturers.

(To be added: Ithaca, High Standard, Savage, Stevens, J.C. Higgins, Benelli)

==[[Remington 870]] vs [[Mossberg 500]] vs [[Winchester 1300]]==
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Remington 870 Riot shotgun with wooden stock]]
[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Mossberg 500 with black synthetic stock]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1300Defender.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Winchester 1300 Defender extended tube length with wooden stock]]

==The Difference between the back receivers, pin placement and trigger guard/assemblies==
[[Image:12gaugeRecogGuide01.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|From top to bottom: Remington 870 new model, Winchester Model 1300, Mossberg 500. Note: the Remington 870s have changed their trigger groups, but haven't changed the name. Please note the difference between the 870s of the 1970s-1990s and now.]]
[[Image:12gaugeRecogGuide02.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|From top to bottom: Remington 870 new model, Winchester Model 1300, Mossberg 500. Note the difference between the tube nut just ahead of the foregrip, and the design of the support post between the tube and barrel. Also the three models have different muzzle nuts at the end of the shotshell tube.]]

==What is the difference between the Mossberg 500 and the Mossberg 590?==
Well, one can always check online as to the internal and structural differences between the two models. But sometimes Model 500s are sold with heat shields, so that makes them harder to distinguish in a movie whether they are 500s or 590s.

[[Image:MossbergComparisonMain.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Side profile comparison between the Mossberg 500 and the 590]]
[[Image:MossbergFrontComparison.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Front ends of the Mossberg 500 and the 590. Please note that the end cap for the magazine tubes are different as are the mounting bars between the barrel and the extended magazine tube. The 590 tube magazine endcap is the most distinctive feature of the 590. Some of them have added swivel attachment points at the end which make them resemble the Winchester 1300 end caps, but the shape is distinctive to the Mossberg 590]]

.......More to follow......... MPM2008

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Shotgun]]

User talk:Sci Fi Gunner

2009-08-03T19:07:40Z

Sci Fi Gunner: moved from my main page

== ''Goldeneye 007'' Screenshots ==

Thanks a lot for contributing screenshots for the ''[[Goldeneye 007]]'' page, I really appreciate it. How are you getting your screenshots, by the way? Do you have a ROM of the game or something? Keep up the good work. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 00:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

*I dounloaded a rom for this, I remember were most were (used to play this a lot) [[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]] 02:39, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

:*Do you think you could get a screenshot of the [[Walther PP Pistol Series#Walther PPK|Walther PPK]] in-game without the silencer, and one of the camouflaged twin [[GE M134 Minigun|Minigun]] turrets for the Janus base in Cuba? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

==Dragon==
I removed them because the Dragon/SuperDragon look nothing like G36/AG36 and they are not based of them either(maybe in PdZero but the article I edited was for Perfect Dark 64, not Perfect Dark Zero)
-[[User:AdAstra2009]]

==Seaquest==
Thanks for the updates and screencaps, but why did you remove the Episode and season identifiers of some of the entries? Like the AUG for one? MPM2008

:The wrong episode was listed. I removed it, forgetting what the right one was I was going to put the correct one back later and forgot to. I fixed it. [[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]] 00:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

==Mystery gun==
It appears to be a nickel plated S&W Model 36, note the flat latch, not present on the later models. I don't know if the Model 60 (the stainless steel version of the Model 36) had a flat latch or not, but the flat latch is definitely that of a Model 36 revolver. You can have a satin nickel version of the Model 36, the name only changes when the gun is made of Stainless Steel, whereas it is called the Model 60. The only sticking point is that I am not sure the Model 60 ever came with that latch. So my first guess is Satin Nickel Model 36. The grips are not original S&W but later version S&W grips for the J frame (not the original Diamond grips that came with the early Mod 36 revolvers). Hope this helps [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

==I'm back briefly==
Just dealing with a bunch of Indies who want guns... And as you well know, sometimes the production has no idea what they want ... and when they want it. Ugh! But I'm slammed with work so if you send me any messages, I apologize for not responding in a timely manner. best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

==Gun==
In the message you sent to [[User:MT2008|Matt]], the gun in the images appears to be an [[RPD light machine gun]]. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Sea Patrol weapon==

As Oliveria pointed out (however rudely), it is an RPD. Hard to tell whether it's a genuine Russian example or not, but I'd guess it's most likely a Chinese copy. Also:

[[Image:SP AK2.png|thumb|none|500px|]]

This weapon is a Chinese Type 56 copy of an AK-47, not an original AK-47. The other one on the page seems to be a real AK-47, though. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

User:Sci Fi Gunner

2009-08-03T19:07:17Z

Sci Fi Gunner: Removing all content from page

Sea Patrol

2009-07-31T04:37:19Z

Sci Fi Gunner: formatting

User talk:Gunmaster45

2009-07-31T04:12:57Z

Sci Fi Gunner: /* Thanks for the help */ new section

'''Note: Please sign your name when adding to this discussion page so I don't have to sift through the page history to know who I'm talking to. I suggest adding a hyphen ( - ) and then typing in three ~ symbols to show your username (four if you wish to display the time as well). Also, I'm a tad OCD about this, but if you add a new post, put it at the ''bottom'' of the discussion page, so I have some form of chronological order here. Thanks.''' - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

==Hey==
Sorry about the Brandon Soo Hoo thing. I was busy working on summer school stuff I had to do for the summer. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]

==Future Weapons==
Hey GM, why don't we try to do Future Weapons together?
==Helicopter in The Marine==
Hey GM,
That helicopter image you posted in "The Marine" under the acetaline M61 Vulcan was origionally from the scene in Rambo III where Traughman gets captured. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 06:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Shoot 'Em Up Glocks==
Yes, I realised the mistake but I think the picture of the thug with the Glock is a compact 19.-[[User:GunnutHk|GunnutHk]]

==Wanted==
Hi, i know i was just testing out how it would be like to put up an image, anyway, why didn't you delete my Browning Hi-power pic? Oh yeah, and i added screencaps to [[Quantum of Solace]] go check it out. anyway, have you noticed that Wesley's style of holding his gun changes almost everytime. and his gun handling is unique, i have never seen it on anyone before, Wanted is my fav. movie.
==Quantum of Solace==
Have you checked out my Quantum of Solace pics? the one whith bond aiming his PPK is just a promotional image that i didn't upload, if you could, please upload Quantum of Solace screencaps.

==Dirty Harry==

Just so you know, [[User:Rafa|Rafa]] has already done most of the Dirty Harry films. They could use a re-vamp, though, as most of them are missing stuff that we usually consider essential to a good page.

==1911==

Interestingly enough, I talked to my uncle (who is from West Hurley, NY; dunno if you've ever been there) a few weeks before I moved to Texas, and he was telling me excitedly about how he purchased an STI Guardian 1911 last month. If I ever go back there, I might just have to shoot it. Actually, I get the impression he wouldn't let me rest until I do...

Anyway, to answer your question, I must point out that I rarely get to shoot at all, which is mostly a consequence of the fact that I was in college out-of-state for four years, and recently moved to another state to take a job. However, I've never been a huge fan of .45 ACP pistols, which I've simply never handled well. My grandfather gave me a S&W 4506 when I turned 18, and it's really a monster (I haven't shot it in about 4 years now). I've fired only one 1911 which also belonged to my uncle, a Springfield Armory if I recall. Great gun, but still not quite up my alley. Of the .45s I have shot, I would say I liked the P220 SAO best, but even then, not enough to buy. Don't get me wrong; I completely respect the 1911 and appreciate its importance to the development of the semi-auto pistol, but I don't shoot much, and I'm just not big into .45 ACP when I do, even though most American pistol shooters are. Also, I should point out that while I prefer the Taurus PT92 over the Beretta due to the 1911-style frame-mounted controls, I still like the SIG decocker best, which is why I'm currently leaning towards the P226 as a handgun purchase (which won't be anytime soon, since I'm not living in my state of residence right now).

BTW, nice job on improving the 1911 page. It's not perfect (lots of images still not aligned with the guns they're supposed to be with), but it does look a lot less sloppy than it used to. Keep working on those movie pages, too! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Depends. If you can get a Tokarev pic, great. I do, of course, have a slight preference for MPM2008's pictures because his are always done professionally, but yours would still be great, too...if you can get it.

:Don't worry about corrections. We all make mistakes. If it seems like we pick on you, it's just that you do ''so'' much work on this site that it's inevitable you'll have a lot errors, too. I mean, think of the ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' page...when you've got like 50 guns, how can you NOT get so tired that your eye slips on some of them?

::It's fine, bruh...whenever you get time. It's for the site, not for me personally.

::Oh, yeah, and while I appreciate the corrections on my mis-identification of Mossbergs (I suck with those), doesn't the Cruiser have a heat shield as standard? The ones in ''[[Training Day]]'' and ''[[The Departed]]'' don't have that, so does that just make them regular pistol-gripped 500s?

==New stuff==

Ah, great to see someone finally made a page for the Walther MP subguns. We've needed one for a while, and it's been on my to-do list, but I see you beat me to it! I hope you don't mind, but I did re-title the page so that it instead says "Walther MP series", to more accurately describe what it says. Also (this is totally nitpicky), there's no hyphen in the name (i.e. "MP-L" should just be "MPL"), so I did change that, too.

Thanks for uploading a Type 84 picture as well. MPM2008 said he'd do it for me at some point, but he couldn't find the mags for the Type 84s in his company's vault, so he wasn't going to take a picture until he could find them. Yours will do for now, tho. Also, do you think we should give it its own entry in the [[AK-47]] page? I mean, the Type 84 is basically just a Type 56 that fires .223, so I figured it would be best to just include it under the Type 56 entry as a Type 56 variation. Though I guess that would get confusing...

:I added it to the AK page in the Norinco section already. And when I found the info for the Walther MP guns, they had hyphens for the L & Ks.

::Oh, I know you added the Type 84 already; I'm just question whether it should be grouped with Norinco Type 56. Anyway, didn't you get those pics from World Guns.ru? They don't use the hyphen. Which site did you get your info from?

:My information is from a book, the pictures are from that site.

::OK, interesting. Which book is it? It doesn't matter too much, I guess, but everything I've read has no hyphen. I have a Gun Digest Assault Weapons issue from 1986 which reviews the MPK, and that's what they call it, not "MP-K".

: "Small Arms From the Civil War to the Present Day" by Martin J. Dougherty made in 2005. He lists them as the MP-L and MP-K. Like you said, it doesn't really matter much.

== Your articles ==

Hi,

You know I really like your articles, but I must make one request: Please try to add pictures of the guns, and also make sure that when you say the gun's name, you link to its page (if you've seen the ''[[Heat]]'' page recently, you'll notice I edited the guns you added to include pictures and links). I realize it's probably a pain in the ass, especially when you've got a gazillion weapons like your articles for ''[[Hollow Point]]'' or ''[[Last Action Hero]]'', but try to do it when you get around to it. You can always do what I do: Copy and paste the code for the images and links from other pages which use the same gun, especially if the coding is complicated (i.e. getting to a specific MP5 variant). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:First of all, no page on IMFDB can escape MT2008's obsessive-compulsive editing tendencies! Haha, no, seriously, if you look at many of the pages I've worked on, I'm always editing them from time-to-time as I realize mistakes I've made. Plus, my pages rarely get shotguns or revolvers correct (since modern military weapons and semi-auto pistols are what I know best); I tend to leave them as "unknown" for other users in the future to correct.

:As far as profanity goes, I dunno, I'm not one of the admins (come to think of it, I haven't seen any of them for a LONG time now). I'd guess it's OK provided you're just quoting a character (as you do on the ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'' page), but not if you're using it gratuitously, especially in conversation. You'd have to ask someone in charge for the low-down on that.

== Current stuff ==

Just an FYI: Since I see you're working so hard on your ''[[Hollow Point]]'' page, I guess now's not the time, but...I recall there being an H&K-model rifle (probably an HK91) used by one of the police snipers in ''[[The Fugitive]]''.

As far as the grenade launcher in ''[[Hollow Point]]'', it does look a lot like the Arwen 37 (Google Image search it and you'll see pics), but I'm not positive. I've seen it before, too...I think in another movie somewhere.

::You sure? I watched it twice and saw no HK91 rifle. And I said it was a MK1 Arwen, the oldest model employed, which he stole from a police car, which makes sense for a cop in 1996 to use one. And I've finally finished the [[Hollow Point]] page.

I remember it being at the very end, after he's been cleared and Gerard is escorting him out, you see a sniper wandering around with what looks like an HK91 or an SR9 variant. But I haven't seen the movie in years.

You should get a picture of the Arwen launcher for your page. Also, I'm pretty sure that tiny shotgun you see is a Franchi PA3/215 with a forward hand grip. I could be wrong (it's hard to tell from the distance), but I've never seen a Serbu with a folding stock, and I never thought they existed.

==Heat==

You should replace my screenshot of Trejo's AK's front sight with yours. Mine is from a low-quality AVI rip of the movie.

Also, what's a "P220-1"? I don't think I've ever heard that term used to describe a P220 before. Are you just referring to the fact that it's an older model P220 with a stamped slide and alloy frame?

::It's what someone else listed it as earlier before. I assume it is meant to label the oldr model but I too haven't heard the term, I just went along with it. I don't change something unless it looks wrong or I think it is. Leave your username so I can respond back to ''you''.

::Oh, right, I always forget to do that. Personally, I wish IMFDB would add an option to automatically sign messages on other people's walls.

::From what I've been reading, "P220-1" is apparently what some magazines for the gun are marked. I also see that the picture you found on a Google image search is also labeled "P220-1". I don't think it's a factory term (or even a fan-made term) for older-model P220s. I've heard the term "P220 American" to describe the P220s that have the magazine release near the decocker (as opposed to the bottom of the grip, which characterized the early European models) because this was apparently done specifically for the American market. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:::Well, it's a bit more complicated with SIG than with Glock to label things in "Generations". I have certainly heard terms like "Gen 1" and "Gen 2" to describe Glocks (in fact, I often use them in my own articles), but when it comes to SIGs, they've made a zillion little changes to the guns every couple years to refine problems that developed. Like the moves from stamped to milled slides, K-kote and stainless finishes, magazine release changes, standard frames to railed frames (which are now standard on all of the P220-series guns, so they don't use the "R" to describe them anymore), etc, etc, etc. Plus, there were mechanical changes (i.e. redesign of the trigger bar spring) and ergonomic changes (i.e. redesign of the grips). These aren't changes that were introduced in any concrete "generations"; any SIG pistol you pick up might have some of the design changes, but lack others.

:::So I'm not really sure how each "generation" would be described exactly. In fact, it'd be kind of weird to call the gun in your picture a "Gen 1" because that's technically not true - the very first P220 was the model with the magazine release on the bottom of the grip, which was eventually replaced by what gun rags used to call the "P220 American" (the first model to feature the regular push-button mag release, and the best description for McCauley's gun). Would that make McCauley's gun a Gen 2? I'm not really sure. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

::::Oh, I know Glock gens. Those are quite easy in comparison, even though there have been some internal mechanical changes to Glocks as well within generations.

::::All-metal SIGs are nice guns, IMO. I can definitely say I'd love to own a P226 as soon as I can get my permit application completed (which sucks because in Orange County, NC, I have to get 3 references from other people before I can apply for a pistol purchase permit at the local sheriff's dept. office). It's one of the most ergonomic pistol designs I've ever fired. However, you gotta be careful with what you buy because they've had lots of mechanical issues over the years. I also think they're kind of overpriced for what you get. But...still very nice guns.

::::Congrats on the new compensator for the 1911. Have fun with that! BTW, nice job on ''[[The Rock]]'' page. I've been making corrections (as usual, because, you know...that's what I do), but it's cool you got so many high-quality screenshots uploaded.

==Defense Technologies==

Here is a picture of what the DefTech/Federal Labs launcher looks like:

[[Image:Federallabs37.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

These have appeared in quite a few films, often portrayed as HE grenade launchers (''[[RoboCop 3]]'' is a good example). Anyway, it could be a C.A.W., but the arms of the folding stock visible in the second pic look kind of like DefTech to me. Hopefully, Al Vrkljan will start posting on this site again soon so that we can ask him!

== Great Work! ==

Thanks for uploading the poster for the [[Catch a Fire]] page. I have also seen your pages and screenshots, and I would like to say they are great. Thanks for your contributions to the IMFDB, and keep up the good work. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Response ==

I'm sorry, but I don't have any pictures of the guns I held years ago. the handguns I held are my Uncle's, he's a retired police officer, and I'm not sure if he'll let me look at them again because you know how some people are about firearms, but I can tell you that the .22 pistol was a very small if that will help. And also, there is another page larger then [[Bad Boys II]], and it's MoviePropMaster2008's [[District B13]] with 37 guns. [[User: Alienqueen11]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the shotguns on the [[Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem]] page, I hope the brighter screenshots helped. I still can't believe how dark that movie is, I know there's a blackout, but they didn't need to make the movie that dark. And also, I want to say excellent job on [[Toy Soldiers]]. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== About Language ==

Hey, I want to say good work on [[Heartbreak Ridge]], there are so many pages on this site that need improvement. Also, I see you're wondering about language, I'm a moderator myself, and from I see, [[User: Bunni|Bunni]], the person who owns the site dosen't seem to mind as long as it is used in a quote or complaint, and not for vandalism. Just don't use anything racist, but I'm sure you won't. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

:OK, that's what I figured, too, but I wanted to be sure. I did notice that some of the quotes which appear on the Main Page have profanity (like the one from ''Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels''), but it's an issue that's never been addressed at all.

== MGS4 M1911A1 ==

Hey, Gunmaster, I seen your comment on the MGS4 page and found a link that might help:

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgnpNaJ6M0]

There you go, hope this helps. This game looks so great, it makes me wish I had a PS3. [[User: Alienqueen11| Alienqueen11]]

== .50 Caliber 1911? ==

Yes, there is a .50 Caliber 1911. Guncrafter Industries Model No. 1 .50 GI. The bullet is roughly the same dimensions as the .45 ACP, just a little wider. Not the most practical gun, but it's a .50 1911 model.

[[Image:M1.50GI.jpg]]

Also, the Automag V is the .50 caliber version, The Automag III is chambered for .30 Carbine (I actually got to play with one of these, slide is loooooong.) Not to be snide or cocky, you know your material, just saying.

Furthermore, I commend you with your eagle eyes spotting all the famous movieguns we've seen time and time again. Gun guys have to stick together, especially the next generation. If you ever want to contact me outside the site, email me at companygunner@yahoo.com, or if you have an AIM account I'll be more than happy to IM. Keep up the great work.

== Nice work on Platoon ==

It's shaping up nicely - I just made it the featured article on the front page. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

==Other answers (sorry for belated delivery)==
..''"how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect?" ''
: I put the weapons on a clear plexiglass frame mount which I built from scratch. I place them in front of a seamless white paper backdrop. I illuminate the gun from one side with a large Arriflex Soft box and a smaller Lowel RIFA soft box on the other side. Sometimes I just put an LTM pepper on spots to lighten up dark areas. Then I put an Arriflex 1K on wide flood on the backdrop to whiten it out. I still need to erase some of the clear plexiglass mount (nothing is invisible, even clear transparent stuff) with Photoshop, but since most of the work is done before I download it onto the computer, it becomes much easier. I also move back at least ten feet and photograph the gun with a telephoto lens. This eliminates the 'warp' distortion of a wide angle lens when photographing a gun. Too many gun images are distorted because the photographer is too close ... and I see a lot of guy's feet at the bottom of the picture.

..''"I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great..."''
:Done. Hope you like :) I will get some pics of M21s soon.

..''"Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. ..."''
: I inundated MT2008 with info that there was no Colt launcher. Personally I didn't know who made or updated the page, he just sent me a note asking my opinion ... and SLAM! I dumped a bunch of stuff on him questioning the Colt claim. good thing he didn't get offended. hahaha I just responded to his query on my talk page. :)

..''"Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM.."''
: The net has CRAPPY images. It's really hard, which is why I just pull out the stuff myself and take my own photos of it. I liked the idea of keeping a reference image. I am tempted to take a side by side pic myself (and not violate anyone else's copyright) and keep the clean white backdrop of the other pics. But I do have a couple of pics comparing them on the M16 page, i.e. mounted on rifles.

::''Yeah, the "Colt 37mm Flare Launcher" thing is completely my fault. I dunno why I thought they were made by Colt, but I swore I heard that term somewhere on the 'Net. Just goes to show why fact-checking is always mucho importante! But seriously, I'm glad MPM is always here to catch my goofs. See, GM, that's kinda how it works...I catch yours, he catches mine, and then everything works out for the better.'' -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

==Last Action Hero==
I remember working peripherally (I helped out on some of the props, but wasn't on the armory staff at the time) on that film. Everyone DURING production was moaning about how dumb it was. And it was pretty dumb. I guess the people (NOT the stars) who work on films can actually tell if a movie is stinker when it's actually being filmed, I remember all of us laughing at the RAMBO III script when we saw it. Anyway, I will look for that pistol, but I'm not making any promises. I sure don't have one and off the top of my head, I don't know anyone who does. But I can ask around.

Also, Just a note, I really think that the MAC-10 in the film is actually MAC-11s (or possibly Cobray M11s, but I can't see how long the receivers are). They're much too small to be MAC-10s. I have average sized hands and MAC-10s are monstrously huge in my hands. Unless those stuntmen are giants, I think those are MAC-11s. Also it's funny that you DID note what I said about TEC-DC9s (being that they were usually seen in films after 1990). Apparently someone was listening. hahahaha. :) But those in the photos of Arnold, are in fact TEC-9s, not TEC-DC9s. they have the sling mount in front so they're TEC-9s. Also I don't remember if they fired full auto in the film, but as far as I know, all the TEC-DC9s in Hollywood inventory are semi auto only. All the full auto ones are legal full auto conversions of TEC-9s. Only Miami Vice and a couple of other shows in the early 1980s used the old InterDynamics KG-99s. But most of the full auto guns you see are TEC-9s.

I own M21s, but they're in pieces. I have to reassemble them, get a cool scope to put on them. Also we have M21s that just came back from Iraq, I can also take some pics of those.

== Nice job ==

Hey, nice job on the [[Jurassic Park]] page, and the other pages you did over the weekend, and also I think you forgot to put [[A Beautiful Mind]] on your Pages Built list. [[User: Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

== Re: Nice Job ==

I understand what you mean, I have school as well, and I understand the weekends are going to be the only times when you can make something big for awhile. Anyway, good luck, and keep up the good work. [[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]]

==M1911 shots by MPM2008==
I am getting some shots of some pristine Early 20th century and World War 2 era M1911s and M1911A1s, so be patient. I also am trying to get beauty shots of a lot of the classic handguns. I got a collector who has mint condition examples of lots of these classic guns and I am scheduling a shoot with him and his collection next week. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== Uzi ==

About the [[Uzi]] page, you might want to leave a note on [[User: Bunni|Bunni's]] talk page, he'll probably know what to do.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

== Training Day Revolver ==

You want evidence, and an argument, you got one. First off, The S&W Model 66 is made of stainless steel, and not carbon steel plated with nickel. Model 19s were originally released with blue or nickel finishes.
Second, A snub nosed, round butt Model 19 is a dime a dozen across the states. Here's a picture resembling the one from Training Day.
[[Image:SW19SN.jpg]]

Look at the picture on the Training Day page, and they look identical, very identical, more so than any Taurus I have seen, or can find on the internet. No it doesn't have the emblem on the side, but that can be sanded off, photoshopped, or just not visible. None of us KNOW what this is, but I do KNOW my argument and my gun makes the most sense, above an Instant Backup, above a lot of things. Thank you for your time.

==Call of Duty 4 Pictures==

I have Pictures for guns in Call of Duty 4, but I have no clue how to get them to work

I've given up trying, and would just like to know who to send them to,

Pictures for: The Single player M4s [All three], Winchester M1200, M92 Krinkov, M21, And the USP

:Since I can't trace your profile, I hope you read it on mine. Give me a URL to whatever page has these pics and I'll upload em for you. Sound good?'

hey i'm new here and i don't know how to get to my user page and didn't someone think the mini uzi was a ruger mp9? please help me get on a user page!!! [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:46, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Srry, when i signed my name i just followed the red link. i didn't think that would happen. by the way, how come i made madness combat pages and they were deleted? they told me no flash, but i don't get what they have against flash.

Can i put flash pics on my user page at least? drjuki

== Re: Saving Private Ryan ==

I only took that one screenshot, wasn't planning on any more. Didn't mean to step on your toes there, was sort of done on impulse. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 18:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

:It's awesome! And I have it in the Main Page "Featured Article" feed, too, so lots of people will get to see the overhaul. I always like it when I see a page that makes me want to watch a movie again, and this one is like that. Those Garand shots make me want to buy the M1 that I saw on sale this weekend (but...saving my $$$$ for the long dreamed-of P226 again).

:Anyway, I'll look more later, but must watch Presidential debate now.

::I've always loved the way the Garand ejects the stripper clip on the last round. My grandfather's a vet, and he's told me that he used to find it scary. But I find it oddly appealing in a retro-sorta way. If you get to play around with an original GI-issue M1, lucky you.

:::The Garand photos are really cool. As far as banning anonymous users from editing goes, I dunno. Seems a bit harsh. But at the very least, we really do need to have more moderators on hand.

==Good call on the xXx==
But it's spelled "xXx: State of the Union" Check out [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0329774/]] as well as the first movie. I would have just changed it myself, but didn't want to jump out of the blue and just change your edit. Thanks. MPM2008

re: gun pics. I do have those guns but it takes time to do the photos. I am going to get new pics of actual M16A2s, a3s and a4s, sure some look alike but I'll try to get some good detail shots of the receivers if I remember. I went to the vault to take pics of the original m1911s and they're not there. I have to check with other people to see where they were moved.

==Dibbs==
The only film I would request or challenge dibbs rights on ;) is Rambo III since I (peripherally) worked on Rambo III and I would like to add information not readily available to the general public. Have you done the screen caps already? If not then I would be happy to, especially to highlight certain scenes with custom info. MPM2008

== About the screencaps on COD4. ==

How did get them? 
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

==Re:XXX==

Ah, OK. Well, understood then. It sucks when the director doesn't show good views of the actor/actress with a particular gun, but it's fine. Just a suggestion.

Nice work so far on ''[[Kelly's Heroes‎]]''. While you're doing that, I think I'm going to get started soon on ''[[Where Eagles Dare]]''.

==On Kelly's Heroes==
I'm sure you know this but Pt. Petuko is carrying an FN model D machine gun, completely the WRONG machine gun to be carrying. Also the leather Thompson Submachine gun magazine pouches aren't American but Yugoslavian Post war (1950s manufacture). Americans had khaki canvas Thompson stick pouches. MPM2008

==M1911s==
Per your request...Check out the new M1911 pics. I scored some really nice ones, a 1913 dated M1911 (original blued finish) and a World War 2 wartime dated M1911A1. I replaced some of the pics of repros in the original sections with those. Check it out. Thanks. MPM2008.

== Need some help ==

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber

== Are you sure? ==

You changed the section in The Unit from a Ruger MK II to this HDM gun. Are you sure this is the same weapon? The photo you added barely looks like the one in the series.

::What about the Mossberg? It didn't quite look like the Express Deer model.

==Reign of Fire==
I have no clue as to what that gun is. I don't have any opportunities to talk to John McKenna being that he's exclusively in Europe and I don't even know if he's ever visited the U.S. If you ever figure out what the gun is, I can try to see if anyone has it, but all the .577s I've seen are double rifles and not bolt action rifles. MPM2008

==577 pic==
Congrats on the pic!!! :) I did not know anything about that gun. As you probably well figured out by now, I don't own one, nor does my company. But I can start asking around to see if any of the armorers have one so that I can take a beauty shot of it. Good job. MPM2008

== The Punisher ==

The guy who made The Punisher page is never on anymore, so I would say you can indeed redo it, it needs a revamp. Just promise me you'll break up the additional weapons section on that page, I can't stand when people cram a bunch of different weapons into one section like that, it has nothing to do with things you do like the Armory section on [[Hard Boiled]] because you branch out. Also did you get my message on The [[Sin City]] talk page? Thanks in advance for the revamp.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Dawn of the Dead ==

Hey, I just uploaded some new [[Dawn of the Dead (2004)]] screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights, and also can Mossberg sights be put on an 870? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the shotgun, and the Glock. Do you want me to take your comments off the page or leave them for future reference? Also you have really good eyes.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== ''Tears of the Sun'' ==

I saw you comment that you were planning on editing the ''[[Tears of the Sun]]'' page. If it's ok with you, I'd like to do it, as I recently bought the DVD of it just for that purpose. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==Re:Tybalts Gun==

You can't talk to anonymous uses? I think I've done it before. Watch for a second... -MT2008

==Ak recog==
Interesting Idea on the AK recog page. I will keep it in mind. Right now a lot of the AKs are customized into weird configs but they will eventually be put back to stock version. The only problem right now is that there are tons of post 1999 AK variants (Hungarians, Polish, Romanian, US made, etc.) that I don't have access to. California banned all AK models after Dec 31st 1999, but we could get them with a special permit, but 99.99% of the guys (myself included) didn't bother picking up any of the new AK models since we already had dozens upon dozens of the older 1980s version AKs. Like Sacha Robey's .223 AKs for Casino Royale, many of the foreign movies have access to AKs that are not imported into the U.S. I will look into getting page for the most common AK examples but usually there are the Maadi ARM(MISRS), Poly Tech Legends, Norinco Type 56, Romanian AIMS or Hungarian SA85s. That's about it for most of the AKs I've seen (and usually they are all 'dressed up' to look like other models if necessary). Again, interesting idea and I will start making note of and taking pics of AKs for that page.... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

== ''Jarhead'' M60E3 ==

The real-life M1 Abrams has never been fitted with any variant of the [[M60 machine gun]], it has always had two [[FN MAG#M240 Machine Gun|M240 machine gun]]s; one mounted in a 'coaxial' configuration parallel to the main 120mm gun, and a second mounted at the Loader's hatch. The [[Browning M2]] heavy machine gun at the Commander's hatch is correct though. If you look at my userpage on here, there's a picture of a real M1A1 in Iraq, the Loader's M240 being clearly visible. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

==animated gifs==
Can you do this? I never realized someone did one for HEAT and I though (for a few select pages or a few select guns) it would be cool. You seem to be the guru of screen capping, but I don't know how to make an animated GIF.

[[Image:HEAT M4 shorty Shootout.gif]]
MPM2008

== Just made you an Admin ==

You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 03:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

==Reign of Fire==
Great work on Reign of Fire. Good thing I took a pic of my Ultimax Mk 2 ;) If you want, the next time I do a big shoot at the Class III vault, I'll snap a pic with a stick magazine rather than the drum. We got so many Ultimax Mk2s (at least a half a dozen) and they're aren't often used. I just want to find someone with a Para model to photograph. :) MPM2008

==...==

Yeah, I figured it was about time we had a page for the Non Guns. If we have one for the MGC M16 replicas, I figured we needed one for these. The convenient timing makes it better...please get a screenshot of Travolta with the Beretta Inox Non Gun and add the movie to my Non Guns page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

:Ah, shit, forgot about that. Do you want to use the one I uploaded instead? ISS's pictures are a bit annoying because they have the measuring tape above the gun; I prefer the ones from Weapons Specialists, which are what you see on the Non Guns page. -MT2008

::Have to run out for a bit, but I'll be back later and do it then.

::BTW, just so you know, the round you see ejecting out of Harris's 1911 in the film isn't a live round, and it wasn't edited. That's what full-flash motion picture blanks look like after being fired. The extra powder has to be packed into an extension of the brass that might look like an actual projectile. Some guns have to have their ejection ports widened in order to function properly with these, though I don't believe 1911s do. You'd have to ask MPM2008 about this, as I'm sure I'm getting the details partially wrong in some way. -MT2008

== Jaws ==

Hey GM45, Are you by any chance interested in screencapping [[Jaws]]? Because if you aren't, I have the dvd and I would like to do it if it's not on your dibbs list.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Top Pages ==

Very cool idea - nice work. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:I'll look into automating some of it, will let you know if I have any luck. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do as soon as I possibly can. I'll be sure to have a quite a few good M1 Garand shots, and I definitely won't forget Scheider's famous line before he blows up the shark. And I will also be screencapping [[Four Brothers]], and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]], so you can look forward to seeing those in the future as well.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Jaws]] is now finished, be sure to check it out when you get the chance, and tell me what you think. I also put two extra screenshots on the it's talk page if you want to see those too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I can't change the order of the 'next page' buttons - but what about creating separate 'starting pages' or 'portals' grouping sequels and series - for example having the box and poster art of all the Matrix movies, anime and video games on one page with links to the individual pages? [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 02:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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No problem, you were one of the best choices for a mod position. Excellent work on the Leone Trilogy, you've built up the Western side of the site very well. And thanks, Four Brothers is a good movie, and it needed a completed page.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

==thanks==

Thanks for the congrats. Here is a picture of the P226 that the guy who's selling it sent me:

[[Image:MyP226.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]

It's a bit roughed up externally (which is to be expected, considering it's probably 15 years old), and I'll probably need to re-blue the hammer, but at $450, it was a pretty good deal (gun + three 15-round mags and a replacement short trigger). Plus, in my opinion, the stamped slide SIGs are of better quality than the ones with cheaply-milled American slides that SIG-Sauer produces today.

Most of my extended family (grandparents, cousins, aunt and uncle) are in New York, so I know what you mean about the gun laws there. Although I'm applying for a Master's program at NYU next year, in which case, I'll be in a worse situation. And yes, I do agree with that I'm very concerned about Biden being the VP. Obama may be the most left-wing president we've ever had once he takes office, but I expect him to be far too preoccupied with the economy and the wars (as well as the Russians) to care much about gun control. Biden, on the other hand, could be a very different story. I remember feeling terribly worried when I heard Obama chose him as VP - for precisely the reason you've mentioned! If he tries to push a new AWB through, it will definitely get through Congress, and Obama will sign it into law. I'm actually trying to persuade my dad, who cares very little for assault weapons, to buy an AR15 variant sometime before Obama gets into office. We definitely have some rough times ahead. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

:Eh, my dad mostly likes guns for "historical" value, as opposed to guns that are "tacticool", so if you can convince him a gun has historical value, he might get interested in it. That was the argument I used when I was 18 and trying to persuade him to let me buy an AK (which damn near gave my very-liberal mother an aneurism). Once I bought it and he had the chance to shoot it, he did become fascinated with the Kalashnikov, mostly just because he admires their ruggedness and simplicity and the fact that it's been such an important weapon in 20th century combat. But he doesn't seem to have as much enthusiasm for the evil black guns with polymer parts, like ARs or H&Ks.

:As far as politics go, no worries. I'm pretty sure most people on this site feel the same way about Biden right now. I know I sure do. It's too bad we got him when we could've had a pro-RKBAer like Palin. Except that Palin's kind of a ditz and I don't really care too much about shit like banning gay marriage or teaching creationism in schools. But still...

:BTW, very nice job on the ''[[Last Man Standing]]'' page! Though I would recommend maybe being a ''little'' less exhaustive when it comes to screencaps. I know it's always tempting to use everything you've taken...every time I screencap a movie for IMFDB, I take probably three or four times the numbers of screencaps I actually wind up using on the page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
::I must concur with MT2008, the screen caps are beautiful, but there seem to be too many of the same sequence or gun. No offense intended, but it takes a long time to scroll down the page to see the 'Next' firearm used. When I screencap, I end up discarding all but the most clear shots of the guns. IMHO. :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

==crap==
I posted a long and detailed response to all your questions or queries ... and then my computer froze up and I lost all of it. %(*$&^% I am running out to outfit a bunch of people with weapons today, so I will have to try to rewrite what I wrote this weekend. Sorry. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

You can start the Quick and The Dead if you like, I should be able to work around your screengrabs. And thanks for the comment, I've taken a page from your book by just putting the name of the movie and Category:Screenshot in a screenshot's description because writing an entire description of a screenshot can be a pain and can make creating a page seem like it takes forever.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you should get rid of those pictures, I think they're great. I saw the Shooter one, and I'm going to get shots of that eventually, and also good luck with getting your work done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

==Empty Pages I Created==
Planning to add to them. Just starting them up while I get info together. Sorry about that. If it's best to delete them in the meantime that's fine and I'll go from there. [[User:CyclopsScott|CyclopsScott]] 03:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

==Western guns==
I am trying to get pristine examples of a bunch of Western guns. I already have a Nickel SAA with ivory grips and a two tone SAA with rosewood grips and partial brass frame. the Nickel SAA has been in films. But getting new and high resolution pics of all of the guns on your western movie pages is on my list of things to do. :) I may have a line on a real (not replica) buntline and Bisley, so I'll get pics of those.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

==Hotel Rwanda==
GREAT work on the Hotel Rwanda Page. It's a very polished page. I'm particularly tickled that my Shot of an African G3 got some use! ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== The World Is Not Enough (video game) ==

Hey bro, in the video games section, the game "The World Is Not Enough (video game)" should be changed to 007: The World Is Not Enough

I'm new to this site and you're the only admin I come across. Hope you can show me around.

edit: Thanks for the reply bro. appreciate it. will let you know if i need help.

==FYI==
Nearly all blank adapted M16 variants in movies use the old style M16A1 birdcage flashhider. Directors want to the see the 'star pattern' full flash and the A2 style birdcage flashhiders with the solid bottom looks stupid with the high flash blanks. Don't know if you noticed by all of my A2s and (most of the M4s that are already blank adapted) have the A1 style flash hider. Also this is obvious in screengrabs of movies like Cloverfield, where there is obvious flash going downwards (which would not be the case if a real A2 flash hider was used). I will try to get an SP1 with a 30 round mag and an m203 for you. I 'may' be able to score that original weird fake M203 from someone who has one (they were made by Special Effects Unlimited in the late 1970s and aren't like anything commercially available now. In fact they were made before there were any unrestricted M203 look a likes available.) Nowadays everyone uses the Cobray/SWD ones. Good work. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

== Walther P99 page ==

hey bro you might wanna add Rogue (Jet Li) from the movie War in the page

i'm still learning how to edit. apologies

edit: appreciate it :)

==Hollowpoint==
I've been looking at that Hollowpoint page for a while. I spoke to MT2008 a while ago, and mentioned that we had a bunch of Type 84s in weird configurations and that I was going to restore them. After shooting the one in the classic Type 84 config, I was looking at a stripped barreled receiver and quickly put on some other wood and replaced the standard front site with a type 56 underfolding spike bayonet front end. That barrel's end was milled down anyway (which I don't like but a lot of the military guns were like that). I like threaded barrels so that I can put any flash hider or muzzle brake that I want. I finally got a pic uploaded and now IMFDB is the only site on the entire internet that has the "Hollowpoint rifle" or at least I think. So the short answer is that I made the gun to be identical to the movie gun. Dave Young is a canadian armorer (or at least works 99% of the time in Montreal) and I've seen a lot of weird hybrid guns in the Canadian armorer circles.

== American Gangster page ==

Hey bro in the American Gangster page, it says Denzel Washington is wielding a 1911. But when you go to Denzel's page, it says Denzel is using the browning hi-power. Please clarify.

==the subject of "dibbs"==
Don't want to cause controversy, but I am not comfortable with the concept of calling Dibbs on the pages. Since any member or new visitor has the right to make their contributions, it seems like pre=emptively telling new members 'don't touch this page'. Sure you or anyone else can fix someone else's screw ups or replace crappy screen caps with good ones, IMHO it may send the wrong message that there is only the 'elite few' who can touch some pages. Sure, I don't like it when people "fix" the pages that I worked on (especially the ones that were blank before I spent my time fixing it), but I do have the power (as do you) to remove inaccurate or silly input. I have replaced low res or bad screencaps (look at what I did on "The spirit") and it didn't bother me when someone rushed out an redid the "Iron man" page before I could get to it (I Pre-ordered and purchased the DVD just for screengrabbing purposes, but my job got busy, and someone beat me to it and I didn't mind because they did a good job). Anyway, that's my opinion. You do a great job on screencaps (albeit I'm one of those that think there are too many images of the exact same gun on the page, but that's just my opinion. Others like Alienqueen for example, seem to love the many images, so who knows?) Hopefully we can encourage and guide new members to make good screen caps and contributions as well. anyway that's just an opinion. I think we can always see if new members want to try their hand at working on pages. Chances are most won't, so we will end up doing it anyway. But I would prefer the 'perception' that we encourage people of 'good intentions' (versus the idiot vandals) to contribute to the site. Anyway, thats just an opinion. Would be happy to hear your thoughts. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

==Check it out==
I think this is the most pristine shot of an AK-104 ever on the net! ;) And only IMFDB has it. :) hahaha. The only inaccuracy is that I didn't have the bakelite 7.62 magazines that are correct on this model, so I used a Bulgarian Waffle Pattern Magazine. If you think it's too inaccurate then I will try to find a mag and repost the image.
[[Image:AK104.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AK-104 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::The only thing really bugging me is the stock. The buttstock is a converted synthetic AK74 (made to fold) but the sling swivel is on the wrong side and the big gap for the scope mount on the stock is not there. I am waiting for a shipment of the real buttstock for the 104. That's a movie gun so it's not a perfect example of the real world AK104. I'll put a note that this is will be rephotographed when I get the correct magazine and buttstock.

There you go, I cut the black bars off the [[Hostage]] screenshots for you, I really like that Two Tone Beretta 92FS, I asked MPM2008 if he could get a picture of one like that. Anyway, the screenshots may look wierd at first, but that will fix itself soon. Great work on [[Hot Fuzz]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

It always does that when I do an image overwrite, don't know why though. It will look distorted or squished, or still look like the old image for a little while before it finally changes to the newer version.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

==fun gun==
thought you'd get a kick out of this... ;) You being someone who knows a lot about guns and does a lot of firearms research, you'd know how rare this one is. hahahahah :)
[[Image:FG421stPattern.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FG42 1st pattern rifle - 7.92mm]]
Well you wouldn't see it in any American weapons catalogue. :) It was issued only to German Paratroopers of Nazi germany. Very few were made and BTW they're full auto guns. Imagine firing a rifle at your shoulder that dumps a 20 round box magazine of full sized 8mm Mauser rounds (!) on another note, I've been trying to get pics of the imperial Japanese guns (like the Type 100 or Type 97 MGs) for a while now. Stembridge used to have tons of them :( you know, I make a note of some of the pages you do, and the ones with lots of details, I make a list to try and get good examples of the guns. I still can't get a stainless 5906. But I'll still keep trying. I like your Hot fuzz page. Usually I try to get the gun to look just like the ones used in the movie (like the AMD-65 I did for the Rambo III page or the "Hollowpoint" Type 84). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

== Excellent work!! ==

Congratulations for your work on Hot Fuzz, it's wonderfully done!

==Movies to screengrab==
I sure hope Mr. & Mrs Smith and TAPS are on your list. I am more curious which version of Mr. & Mrs. Smith you might have. I now know there are two (2) versions. the one I have is the original theatrical release, which is missing about 5 minutes of battle scenes from the television cut. I hope you have the other one, or have access to it. There are firearms shots in the longer version that I can't screen grab. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
I sure hope you can replace those Bootleg Tropic Thunder screencaps with your legal ones asap ;) I always cringe when I see bootleg DVD images (especially those from China). Looking forward to it.

==Remington 870==
Do you recall any film that has an 870 with a long hunting barrel? I recall seeing one on the site but it doesn't come up in a search. Thanks.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for the info. Yes, it was the UNIT that I saw the use, but I'm pretty surprised that we haven't seen more long barreled 870s in Movies or TV. They're so ubiquitous. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Morita Rifle==
Sorry about the page. Funny that we were working on the same page at exactlyi the same time. hahaha. Well I got some original props from the movie, including my own rig from the battle scenes (but I'm too fat now to fit into it anymore hahahaha). My own Morita Rifle from the movie is pretty beat up, but now I have motivation to repair it and photograph it for the continuing Glory of IMFDB. Hope you're feeling better :) regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Bangkok Dangerous==
I used the High Def Internet trailer for Bangkok Dangerous to screen grab, so they're not bootleg images. I have not seen this movie, but I am unsure about some of my Gun Identifications. Just dropping a line, since I replaced some of your screengrabs. regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==tropic thunder==
I'll try to get you a Colt Sporter II in the exact configuration of Tropic Thunder very soon. It's on my list of things to do (along with redoing all the Colt carbine shots with the new digital camera (some of the older shots were with an old film camera and scanned on a flat bed scanner). Also you're right about the closeness of the blank firing pistol to be dangerous, but it's not that bad. The rule of thumb is 15 feet (but we try to get them to divert the angle so it's off axis and we also warn them that unburnt powder can still hit your eyes.). In the shot with Jack Black, it doesn't look too bad. We've done closer than 15 feet, but we take special precautions. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==590==
BTW, hope you don't mind, but I'm replacing your low rez image of the 590 with my own. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==The Dark side of movie guns==
One of the original Type 56 rifles from the movie "Uncommon Valor" (and no, please Don't post this image on that page, I have access to other rifles from the movie that are in way better shape and I intend to delete this image after a little while). This is what SOME movie guns look like. (Click on the image to see it up close) And no, they're not MY GUNS. I have some guns I need to clean up, but any beaters I try to clean up and keep as good as I can. But I tend to pick and choose the most pristine examples I can find of each movie gun. As you can guess, a lot of the movie guns (not the HERO pieces) are pretty beat up. We have actors and stunt persons dropping them and mishandling them all the time. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:BeatType56.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Heck at least it fireable....]]

==You're not gonna believe this==
I MAY have tracked down a custom .577 T-Rex to photograph. Still want it? Since they are usually custom built, some of the minor design details might be slightly different. normally I wouldn't care, but I was looking through a rack of another guy's armory and I asked "what's that gun?" and he quipped, oh a .577..... It just doesn't have a scope mounted yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

==On some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind, on some of your gun pics (the guns I don't have access to just yet) I was going to 'color correct' them and remove some of the excessive 'white space' around them. I was just going to get rid of any 'greenish' or yellow or bluish tints and make the colors more correct and reload them. So if you see some pics that have been reloaded, some of them are just the same pic but 'color corrected'. regards. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== Smokin' Aces ==

Hey GM45, do you by any chance have [[Smokin' Aces]]? If you do, is there a possibility you can put it on your to do list? Not that you have to screencap it, I'm just asking because that page is in need of better screenshots. And don't worry, I'll chop the black bars off some of the screencaps eventually.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==New screencaps==
GREAT job on the Crank screen grabs. Are you doing Blu ray now? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Workload==
hahahaha. Well i got my massive GUNS to photograph to do list ;) I've photographed over 200 guns so far.... It sure doesn't seem like it but I looked at my 'transfered to IMFDB folder' and there are about 207 images that were taken from original photographs. What's killing me right now is that I can get to the cool vintage western stuff, but the guys are so hard to get a hold of. regards... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Happy Thanksgiving==
Hope you're eating well :) regards [[Special:Contributions/76.199.198.193|76.199.198.193]] 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Re:U.S. Marshals==

Yeah, sure, that would be fine. Mine are OK, but kinda low-res. I would definitely prefer higher-res alternative. Also note that some of my shots don't appear on the page itself (i.e. the shot of [[Robert Downey Jr.]] with his Glock-22 which I took for the actor page). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== anonymous users ==

It's a very simple change to block anonymous users from making any edits, how to stop them from just making new pages I haven't quite figured out... I think we may just try disallowing edits from anonymous users for a while - my worry is that we will lose potential newcomers who may not understand they have to register first, I'll need to figure out a way to display a message to anonymous users that they must register first... I'm working on it. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 20:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==My thoughts on Molotov Cocktail==
Just so you know, I'm strongly against an improvised weapon like the Molotov Cocktail having it's own page. '''It's a bottle with gasoline in it.''' It's not '''manufactured or crafted''', like any of the weapons on the other pages including things like custom swords, bows and knives.

Also no user ever needs to know, "Gee, what was the make of that Molotov Cocktail I saw in that movie?" Since IMFDB is an information resource on stuff that people intuitively would NOT already know, I feel we should not put pages on things that are improvised weapons, like "the Bride" in KILL BILL using a piece of wood with nails in it to kill Gogo Yubari.

Also would you also list the propane tanks used to blow up Zombies in DAWN OF THE DEAD as a weapon as well? They had a road flare in them so they were 'modified' like a molotov cocktail.

Since you made it and put effort into it, I won't complain any more, but I thought you must realize how I feel towards improvised weapons. I lump them in the same category as a crowbar (weapon used in Half life), a rock, a stick or a brick. Sure Video games use them as weapons, but they don't deserve the page that a known firearm or munition does since no one will ever wonder what country they came from, who made them, what their history or caliber is, or what version or variation is being used. IMHO [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==Molotovs==
Thanks for the explanation. :) I figured it was something like that. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

==.PNG Images==

Yeah, I use .pngs in place of traditional .jepgs. They take a while to load, but they're a lot clearer and less pixelated, and with the low res 90s movies I build pages for, I need all the clarity I can get.

==Thinking of overwriting some of the Thompson Pics==
I was just giving you the heads up, since one of the uploaded pics of Thompsons is one you uploaded. I was going to overwrite it with one of these. Let me know if you have any objections. I am also adding the M1s and M1A1s when I get a chance. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:M1921Thompson.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1921 Thompson]]
[[Image:M1928.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|M1928 "OverStamped" Auto Ordnance Thompson (this one is a real beat up one)]]
[[Image:M1928A1Drum.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 with a Drum magazine]]
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Late model Military contract Thompson with Stick magazine and transitional rear sight (same as M1 first model)]]

==WTF? Now we have internet Flash animation webisode shorts?==
Anonymous user 98.216.249.226 has created a page for Taegukgi. This is NOT the Korean war Movie of the same name, but a Flash animated short that lasts less than 60 seconds, created by an (albeit talented) fan. WTF. Though the short is quite cool, it's weird and stylized animation of round headed figures duking it out for about a minute. does it count if it's only public release is a website? I think people are pushing the boundaries of what is a legitimate title here.

The page on IMDFB.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Taegukgi

Where you can watch Taegukgi:Stagnant Fire (Stagnant Flame is the 2nd webisode)
http://216.40.252.130/stagnantfire.swf

Your thoughts and opinions on the matter are appreciated.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== the other Glock ==
Can you take a look at the other Glock in my Resident Evil page? I'm trying to see if it's a Glock 26.

==Alien Nation==
I think you're right about the shotgun. I'm going to change it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Re: ''Jingle All the Way'' ==

Thanks for the compliments on ''[[Jingle All the Way]]''. I actually have a VHS copy of this movie and saw it this evening on TV. I might try to snag the DVD to screencap it, but if anyone else has it they're free to do so themselves if they wish. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 05:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== The Dark Knight ==

I think Gunner313 basically just adds pictures he got off other sites, he said he does before. You can still do [[The Dark Knight]], you're one of the best screencappers on here, if you really want to screencap it, you should.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

== Care to take a look at my RE:E movie page? ==

Since no one did this page since the DVD release, I decided to do so. I need some check ups cause I always have a hard time telling Taurus from Beretta. Also see if you can ID the Cobray M11 for me if it is one. The previous guy posted up and even I thought it was an MP7 until I looked closer. If you got the time [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

*''[[Resident Evil: Extinction]]''

::I was using Microsoft Paint and then realize I could crop the wide screen effect. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== I can't be nice anymore ==

Someone has to draw the line. This guy Don whatever. He just posted a NEW flash animation on this site. What the hell? I've see the pics or trash that resembles pictures of guns and he thinks those are what they are? Is he high or some punk kid that thinks it's so cool that it deserves to be on this site. Sift Head and that other flash animation thing, Taegukgi. Those are pardon my language, pieces of shit that are NOT worthy of this place that some of us hold with respect. Yeah, they seem entertaining, but if we decide to let something this slide, then whose to stop from putting other flash animations that have "drawings" of guns on them because "Oh they have guns, so therefore they should be on this site". I want to remove it, but I like a majority vote instead of me acting pissed of. I'm asking everyone else their thoughts. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:Hey, anime deserves to be on this site just as much as games. Most of them were drawn from concept to the us watching them, down to the very details. Gunslinger girls, Ghost in the Shell, Black Lagoon. The artists of those series took their time and effort to make then guns that appear to be as authentic as possible when they can and that in itself deserves respect in a site like this dedicate to cataloging guns from movies and shows we've seen. Anime that do draw the guns so realistic deserves to be on the same respect level as we respect the armorers for the movies and shows. Anime is a real work of art. These flash animations are just attempts at art and failing, only providing us with cheap and a lot of time free entertainment.
[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

::Yes, I know which anime you are talking about. I don't know why we allow stuff from the Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad, and South Park...But it's not as bad as flash animation. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== My airsoft ==

So what do you think of my airsoft? I know a lot of people have a bad idea about what airsoft is, so what do you think? I'm a guy who likes to show off sometimes, that's one reason why I ask since I've updated pictures on my page, but more to ask what others think, particularly people who are more into firearms. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 10:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

==Predator==
BTW: Fantastic work on the Predator page. It is very impressive and informative. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Got it for you==
Got a pic of one of the DIE HARD HK94 conversions. The third firing position (2) was stamped after the fact (and is shallower than the factory etched "0" and "1". This one is from the rack of movie guns used for AIR FORCE ONE :) thought you might get a kick out of it. Actually I had this in a folder of pics I had shot six months ago and I totally forgot that I had it. :) :)[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:34, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:H&K94Conversion.jpg|thumb|none|600px|HK94 converted into a full auto gun with chopped barrel - 9mm]]

==T2==
I will review it in detail later re the length or the trivia, but at a glance it looks very interesting :) . But I did make a note to myself take pics of the Colt Sporters used in the film. I got those configurations. You were right in that the slab side is just a Colt Sporter Carbine with the barrel chopped down. The "Commando" with the forward assist is the Colt Sporter II, again converted. I also have to replace some of my M16 pics since they are 'custom' guns that aren't indicative of the 'classic' models (like the 733, etc.)

BTW: I replaced the USP45 amongst other guns. I am also working on new FNC pics. The problem is that there are multiple versions of the FNC. The ones imported into the U.S. were the (a) FNC 223 Rem Sporter (the semi auto import version with a bayonet lug and thin sling ring), (b) the later model FNC 223 Rem Sporter with NO bayonet lug and thicker forward sling ring, (c) the FNC Para Sporter. Then there is the real deal, the Belgian full auto FNC Early model and the FNC Para model. And now there is a newer model FNC rifle with some design changes and the newer model FNC Para rifle. More modern movies filmed overseas would have the all Belgian guns. American movies would have the U.S. Imported variants. I'm trying to get pics of each type.

Check this out: :) You're the FIRST to see this puppy! :)
[[Image:FNC REM Sporter.jpg|thumb|none|600px|FNC semi auto imported rifle - marked FNC 223 REM SPORTER on the receiver - 5.56mm]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

==Screencaps on Commando==
I know you like pages with tons and tons and tons of screencaps (so does Alienqueen, I think). And I've made it obvious in the past that I really don't like having so many screencaps on a page. I think it makes the page massive and unwieldy and hard to look at. But that's my opinion and my taste. I prefer to have no more than four images on a page. Recently some member added TONS of pics to my Dogs of War page. Way TOO many images and I think it made the page look clumsy. But I would appreciate NOT adding tons of new screencaps to pages that I essentially built up myself, just like I wouldn't delete any of the photos for the pages that you did from scratch. It's just a matter of taste, I know, but I don't like having a lot of pics of the same gun over and over again. I think it belabors the point and (especially for members with slower internet connections) it slows down the viewing of the page. (case in point, I thought that having over fourteen screenshots of Bruce willis and his M1911 in Last Man Standing was just too much, but that was your page and I'm not prone to criticize based on my "page layout" sensibilities. I hope you understand my point and thanks for all the hard work you've done on the site. Thanks and best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

==Got it, finally :)==
[[Image:AKMSPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKMS Custom - 7.62x39mm]]
Now I will be updating with this pic. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen and Great Escape. ==

You can do it.I don´t mind.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== RE:The Dirty Dozen ==
Would you mind terribly telling me why you replaced EVERYTHING that I put on the page for "The Dirty Dozen"??? I admit the page was not as detailed as it could have been but where do you get off COMPLETELY DELETING everything that I put on there??? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 05:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Charon68

== Re: Scarface ==

I'll try to get more shots for [[Scarface]] when I get the chance. I've seen the Fate of Legions blog, and I agree it's cool. Great job on [[Mail Call]] so far.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed, I enjoy checking your User page to see what you're going to do next, and I can't wait to see Mail Call and SNAFU when you're done. Anything with Gunny is worth checking out. And also, I am getting really tired of Anonymous users deleting screenshots and trivial information off pages as with the Colaterial page a few minutes ago. It dosen't hurt to have some trivia, it's what this site is for, and seeing how everybody is protecting their pages, it's only a matter of time before this site can only be edited by registered users.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 05:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:You are very right, it should be the person who makes the page or an adminstrator who decides what should or should not be on a page, not some anonymous user visiting the site for the first time. And I understand how much time it can take make a page, some of them can take a day to get done. Plus if you think that's bad, look at this guy's edit to Saving Private Ryan:

[http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/99.6.6.30]

This made me really pissed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 06:21, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Some of them might, but don't worry about them, they're just anonymous users. They're easily dealt with, plus you do great work. Great job on Mail Call so far, and I'll be sure to check out the Great Escape when it's done.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

==Gunner313==

I notice you say Gunner313 uploaded images from Legion's Fate's blog. Where did he do this? I searched his contrib history and didn't see them, so I haven't figured out what you mean. But if you see people doing that kind of shit, do not hesitate to delete the images and give them a ''severe'' warning. It makes us look bad. And likewise, same with screencaps from bootlegs. There's no need to have this "I'll let it go just this once" approach - by all means, you've got the right to take action. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the images I have been a member here since it started. I only recently got a computer capable of taking screen caps and playing dvds. I use to make due as best I could to try and add images to this site. Gunner313

==24==

Will you be around today to screen cap [[24]] Season 7 on FOX? I heard on your bio you could would maybe in the future start working on [[24]]. I'm a big fan but I don't have screencapping software yet. I'd finally like to have screencaps on [[24]] the page.
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 10:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Lord of War==

Eh, depends. Main question is, how ''many'' additional screencaps do you want to add? I really would prefer you not add a ridiculous amount of extra screencaps, like 20 shots per gun, the way you've been doing on some of your pages. I think it's been getting a little bit out of control lately, so if you want to work more on that page, I'd rather you limit yourself to something like 6 shots per gun at most. Especially since the ''[[Lord of War]]'' page is one of the site's most popular.

::I see that I'm not the only one who isn't fond of too many shots of the same gun on a page. It makes the page way too big and unwieldy. I certainly don't love endlessly scrolling down just to see what the NEXT gun entry is. I don't mean to diminish the hard work done, but there is a limit to how many screenshots should be on a gun's section of the page. You've been doing a LOT better in reigning in the sheer number of screencaps. I must give fair warning any additional screenshots on pages that I've done 99% of the work on, I reserve the right to start editing out images if I think there are too many of them. Anyway, other than that issue, you've done tons of great work. I was thinking of requesting that members start taking a second look at orphaned pages, i.e. pages with no screenshots at all before we start adding tons of new pages. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, which guns did I miss? The only ones I forgot to make an entry for are the M16A1 with A2 handguards and the Galil AR used by two of the Lebanese militiamen. I suppose I could also make a section for the inside of Yuri's container, although most of the guns in there are guns that appear elsewhere in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Tyrannasaurus ==

It was Alienqueen's second account... we were doing some testing working out some bugs after moving servers last year. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 06:40, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for helping with my Sopranos page- everytime I watch an episode I try and screencap and figure out what's what. I'm sure I'm still a good bit off from finishing it, but I appreciate your comments! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== A little help ==

I just started my [[Police Story 3: Supercop]] page, but I need some help IDing some of the guns. Can you give me a hand? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question About Bond Actor Category ==

I was wondering, in the "James Bond Actor" category page, should we limit it to actors who've played James Bond himself, or should we allow 'supporting' actors such as Bond girls (ie, [[Halle Berry]] & [[Honor Blackman]]) and villians (such as [[Robert Carlyle]] & [[Gert Fröbe]])? I'm proposing this to several admins and would like to get some feedback on this before making a decision. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== The Godfather ==

Thanks, ''[[The Godfather]]'' is a great movie deserving of a full imfdb page! To answer your question about the gun used in the "Leave the gun..." scene, I tried to see what it was when I was screencapping it a few nights ago but I believe the shot was too far away to capture one. It's possible that some DVD players might be able to zoom in with a good enough resolution to see what it might be, but mine doesn't have the capability. I wish you luck finding it though, I'd be curious to know myself! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: The Departed==

Blocked him already. I don't tolerate this kind of bullshit at all when it's some random guy who has never made a useful contribution.

Sorry I've been away for so long...just got back from DC. I'll look over what's transpired the last few days. But nice job on ''[[Get Smart]]''! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, I was actually in DC for Obama's inauguration, as I told MPM in a brief post to his wall. And no, I am not at all a fan of our new President, and less so the VP. But my Mom (who is a liberal) was really excited and wanted me to come, and you know...I couldn't hurt Mom's feelings. Plus, my boss at the law firm where I work (also one of my Mom's friends) was able to book me at a really nice hotel (the Sofitel, where Edward Norton and Dennis Hopper also stayed), ''and'' I got two days off from work, ''and'' I got to hang out in DC for the first time in over 10 years. So, regardless of how I feel about our country swearing in its most left-wing President ever, the trip was still worthwhile.

:Oh, yeah, and the best part is...Obama's speech really was inspiring to me. It has inspired me to save more and more of my paychecks so that I can buy that nice new M4gery I've always wanted to own...before he and Biden ban them forever. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 00:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Good suggestions! ==

Thanks, I'd always been a big fan of ''[[The Getaway (1972)]]'' so I decided to start re-screencapping it. I could do a few more but I wasn't sure on the protocol on replacing another user's images. (Also, thanks for adding the year; I have a DVD of the 1994 version coming in the mail so I'll be screencapping that as well. I hear it's not quite as up to par as the other but any movie is worth an article here). And yeah, I should probably add some info. I have a huge list of movies I plan on building/screencapping/improving, etc. so it'd be better if I got that name up there in blue. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:That would be awesome if you could protect it. Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::I appreciate that, I'll try and add more once I can think of anything remotely interesting about myself. -[[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== re: The Untouchables ==

Thanks! Whenever you get a chance, do you think you might be able to review some of the Model 10s and shotguns on there? I'm wondering if a few of the revolvers listed as Model 10s are something else (though nothing I could quickly identify) and I just want to make sure I got the shotguns straight (I only know a few things about differentiating 1897s from 1912s). Thank you and good luck with Mail Call! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thank you for the revolver help. I knew the front sight was off, as well as other things on the frame, but I didn't want to make a poor guess. I believe you're right about the Police Positives. Thanks again! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Mail Call ==

Nice photos but the ones that are listed as M1917 on aircraft are not correct. The Machine gun on the Folker EIII is a Maxim LMG08/15 Air Cooled machine gun built by Spandau. The LMG in LMG08/15 stands for Luft Maschinen Gewehr or Air Machine Gun in english.

Nice job on Mail Call. When you get to the episode on the Colt Potato Digger machine gun I have some info on that. Also I will see if I can scan my challenge coin that R. Lee gave me for the site.

I made some edits to it but they got erased. Why? I'm still working on screencapping yet, i didn't have enough time to add gun pics and you didn't add them. P.S When will you be getting season 3-8? [[User:Drjuki]]

Oh, ok. I thought you ment don't add any seasons since you were going to do that. I didn't know you were going to through the earlier seasons. You know who. Drjuki.

== The Untouchables ==

Photo of Nickel pistol held by Kevin Costner and Billy Drago is a Star Model B. The show also had some Colt Official Police .38 revolvers and a Welbey in .455 caliber used by the RCMP.

== XXX ==

Thats a M61 Vulcan mounted under the chopper. The special features in the film has it wrong. There are only two Vulcans in the industry at this time. They have been converted to blank fire and used in [[Armageddon]], [[XXX]] and [[Death Race]]. I have hadled they and see them and the helicopter mount about once a week. Look at the size of the weapon mounted to the copper and minigun. The gun under the chopper is twice as long as the minigun. Also compare the photo from XXX to the gunship from [[We Were Soldiers]] that we had two miniguns mount on.

== Video Games ==

Armorers work on video games consist of four parts. Part one is foley work sound department records every noise the weapons action makes without firing. Part two is live firing the weapon at private range with eight to ten mics surrounding the shooter and several more located down range. Part Three is have each weapon photographed and film in the firing position for the digital modeling. Part Four is firing at items with a suppressed weapon to record impacts for the game. To most people this would sound like a lot of fun but it has to be one of the most stressful events for a armorer since there is no breaks other than to change weapons. Most of the time games have about 20 to 30 different weapons in them and all this is done between one and three days. The shooter can not move, breath or make any noise while firing as the mics will pick it up.

== Iron Man CAR15 ==

In the photo with the line of rifles it states it has a commercial CAR15 flash hider. I really it is an M4 carbine with a Surefire suppressor flash hider BFA. I built those BFA's for that show. [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M60E1 machine gun ==

I went back and checked to see if our M60's were of the E1 configuration. We had 18 on We Were Soldiers and they were all standard M60's. Then I checked out a sight that had a photo of the M60E1 and that is completely different system. Check it out at this website http://www.warboats.org/stonerordnotes/M60%20GPMG%20R5.html. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== M1 Garand question ==

I have a question about the M1-C Garand and M1-D Garand, do you load them like you would the M1 Garand? and does the En Bloc clip pop out of them too after the last round is fired? I'm not sure because the scope seems to right above where the En Bloc clip pops out. Thanks for any answers in advance.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Usable pic?==
I was tempted to reshoot this on a pintle mount so that I can get closer to the gun. Let me know if this format is preferable. I am still tempted to reshoot some of the Aircraft guns much closer so that we see more of the gun and less of the mount. I had to shoot it in the warehouse and digitally wipe out everything else with white (what a pain!) since I was alone and this sucker was TOO heavy to lift by myself! ;)
[[Image:Browning-M2-Heavy-Barrel-w-Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Browning M2HB on Tripod Mount - .50 BMG]]
best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW: I need a photo wish list again, so please let me know which guns you really want to see a good pic of :) I will try to track them down for pics. :)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the info, I see how it works now. And yeah,, I don't think I would like a left sided scope either, I would prefer it to be in line with the barrel. And glad to see you're finally able to screencap Shoot Em' Up, can't wait to see it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
I'm going to visit some buddies who have a lot more stuff than I do and I was wondering if you had any more special request pics. I have them on my user page at the top, but I wanted to make sure that you knew that I was 'taking orders' to see if these guys have any pristine versions of these guns that i could photograph. Thanks. Let me know your 'request list'. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Request list==
Good thing you mentioned the Winchester 1866 with the forearm and without, or else I would have forgotten about it. Again, don't know if the guys with these weapons even want to take the time to let me snap some pro photos, but it doesn't hurt to ask. As for the '''M60''', I got one myself and are looking at it right now, but it's fubared, i.e. the plastic trigger group got cracked and I did a patch job on the rear end (and haven't bothered to fully fix it. Also it's REALLY beat up and I am still looking for one in decent shape. Here is a cropped snap shot of it taken some years ago on a movie set. One of the young actors was holding it near the crafts services table and I took a snapshot. here it is. But I will try to fix it up prior to IMFDB photography ;)
[[Image:M60SnapShotOnSet.jpg]]
:Nope, just an extra. He treated the gun great though. There was always guys who listen to the on set armorer and then there are they guys you gotta watch like a hawk. MPM

==Re:Hitman==

Actually, I only have the regular Unrated DVD. Mine doesn't seem to come with a whole lot of special features besides Deleted Scenes. If you want to add the screencaps of the armorer showing off the guns, that's fine by me. Also, I think I'm going to keep some of the publicity stills. I prefer to keep those whenever they show a better view of the gun than appears in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re: Colt Mustang==

Thanks for fixing the page up. Been a while since I created one so I have forgotten some of the nuances.
[[User: Charon68]]

==Got a gift for you! ;) More coming==
You can do the honors on the movie page... :D I still have more pics to clean up and color correct (and that takes a lot of time)...
[[Image:ColtSAACustomQuick&Dead.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|The Custom engraved Colt Single Action army used by "Ace Hanlon" ([[Lance Henriksen]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' .45 LC. This is the actual live firing screen gun used by Lance Henriksen.]]
[[Image:Remington1875Q&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|The custom engraved Remington 1875 used by John Herod ([[Gene Hackman]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This it the ACTUAL revolver used by Hackman in the Saloon sequence.]]
[[Image:Remington1875SilverQ&D.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|This it the Custom All silver Remington 1875 used by 'The Kid' ([[Leonardo DiCaprio]]) in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' This is the actual revolver handled by DiCaprio in the Gun Store scene!.]]

Like it? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Okay, I got more, but they're not western related ==
I will actually be REPLACING some of the existing images with these, so that we don't have to manually update all the linked pages. I will be doing these, but I am giving you a heads up update on what I am uploading....

[[Image:KimberCustomIISWAT_Jackson.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Kimber Custom TLE II pistol with Surefire light - this is the exact pistol used by the team in the movie ''[[SWAT]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:SIGP220R LiveFreeDieHard.jpg|thumb|none|400px|This is the screen used SIG P220R used by Bruce Willis in the movie ''[[Live Free and Die Hard]]''. This one is Bruce Willis's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him and fired by him)]]
[[Image:StarBNickelPulpFiction.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nickel plated STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[Pulp Fiction]]''. This one is Samuel L. Jackson's actual pistol in the movie (and was carried by him)]]
[[Image:StarBUntouchablesScreenGun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Blued STAR Model B - 9mm pistol from the movie ''[[The Untouchables (1987)]]''. This one is a screen used and fired handgun in the movie and was used by Kevin Costner on screen. ''Normally on generic guns I retouch out big scratches on the finish, but this is an original piece used in the film and the scratches are what identify it as authentic to people who know what Costner was firing.'']]

I got tons more, but I have to clean up the pics....
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Replacing some of your pics==
Hope you don't mind that I will be replacing some of your pics with screen used gun pictures. I have the 5906 from Collateral. ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==More pics==
[[Image:S&W5906LateModel.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|Vincent's Smith & Wesson 5906 from ''[[Collateral]]'' - 9mm. This is a screen used gun. Note the late model 5906 pistols have the rounded trigger guard. ]]
[[Image:S&W5906EarlyModel.jpg‎‎|thumb|none|400px|Early Model Smith & Wesson 5906 - 9mm. The early model 5906 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but they changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]
[[Image:S&W5904LateModel.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]

These others were also screen used, but I need to recheck and verify what. BTW, I do 'scramble' the serial numbers (in Photoshop) when they are visible so that nosy people can't track down the original SN for the movie gun. I have TONS more pics, but I don't want to sit here all night. I have another gig to go to :) I also replaced the TEC-9 image with a good one and will be replacing a bunch more. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Your page format==
I see what you are talking about with the none instead of left. I was just think about when you have multiple photos of the same weapon to put them next to each other to same some space. I also notice that the photo go all over the place as in the Death Race posting without the left or right. It works on a couple of other wikis but all are different. I will put up a representative photo for each weapon shortly. Thanks. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==SOCOM Mk 23==
The Knights Armament Suppressor was not mine, but belonged to a fellow armorer, but he was also a license Title II and Destructive Device Manufacturer, so he had samples of ALL the late generation Suppressors. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Hitman==

It looks great! Nice job! Too bad I didn't get the proper version, but I only spent $7 for this movie (used) at Half-Price Books. I don't think I would have wanted to spend more than that. Anyway, it does seem like this weapons coordinator was kind of a douche. I imagine armorers in Bulgaria aren't really held to the same standards as their American counter-parts.

Oh, yeah, and I think there may be one other weapon type in the film I missed (besides the myriad assortment of handguns on the table at Udre's place which I would never be able to figure out. It looks like two of Udre's guards are using MP7s just before 47 takes them out with his MP5s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

== Gunner313 ==

Some loser anonymous was vandalizing pages throughout the site one time, and he made Gunner313's user page with a nasty comment on it. Gunner313 is free to make a real user page whenever he wants.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== Re: ''The Iron Giant'' ==

I have the movie, although on VHS instead of DVD, otherwise I would have screencapped it. There's some other weapons used by the soldiers (rifles and a pistol fired by Gen. Rogard), but wasn't sure if they were based enough on any real weapons to be included (the rifles looked like the bastard children of an M1 Garand and an M14). If you can screencap the film for me, feel free. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shoot 'Em Up.==

Great Job on the Shoot 'Em Up page. Just a couple of quick thoughts:

- Don't be so hard on the movie. The entire thing was basically one feature-length Looney Tunes cartoon...if Quentin Tarantino had written one.

- Doesn't Smith use a USP Compact during his sex scene with DQ/shootout, or is that the same USP? If so, then I'm going to assume that you don't have shots of that...for obvious reasons. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 02:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

==push==
Per your request, I got as many gun pics as I could from the HD trailer. Check out the Push page. I haven't seen the movie so my guesses are just guesses. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Legends of the Fall ==

Hi, I congratulate you for you work!
Can you post the movie "Legends of the Fall" and the firearms used in this film?
Sorry for my bad english.

== Legends of the Fall (again) ==

Hi again, maybe I don`t write correctly. I trying to say: "can you do Legends of the Fall"? I saw you are realy good and know a lot about firearms.But I have bad english and I don´t know much about firearms, I am learning. It`s a request if its no bother to you. I hope do you understand what I trying to say you. Sorry again for my english.

== shotgun in Thunderball ==

Hey I just posted screenshots from ''[[Thunderball]]'' and there was a ribbed barrel shotgun (which I believe was a [[Remington 870]]) in some scenes. I remember you had some pictures of an incredible 870 Wingmaster and I was wondering if you could look at the shots I took from TB and tell me if they're at all similar, just so I'd know how to categorize it. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Thanks, that should be a great help! I won't label anything clearly until we know for sure but I'll do some looking into it myself as well now that I'm not searching blindly - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Tanks for your answer ==

Tanks for your answer about Legends of the fall. My first language is Spanish, I´m from Argentina. My English is basic, sometimes I forgot the past simple or the future, and sometimes I need help from google translate, but I hope improve in English and learn more about firearms. I wait craving for Legends of the fall. Tanks.

==SIG==

Whoops, sorry if I missed that. Anyway, the answer is that yes, "SIG-Sauer" is correct. SIG is an acronym for ''Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft'' (Swiss Industrial Society), while Sauer is shorthand for the German firm J. P. Sauer und Sohn GmbH. In other words, "SIG" is an acronym, while "Sauer" is not, so it's appropriate to capitalize all letters of "SIG". And if I ever see people who don't capitalize it, I always correct it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

==Rundown==
Well I have no problem with posting screencaps of guns that are '''not''' what I already posted. As I proposed in the 'rules' suggestion in the forum, that this being a Wiki, we should be prepared that our screengrabs 'could' be replaced at any time with something of markedly 'superior' quality. However, if you open that can of worms, just remember that in all fairness, I or other users could also '''replace''' any of your screengrabs on any page you built when we please as well. I am glad you asked, but unless the existing screencap is just crap, it doesn't seem appropriate to replace it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Blank revolver question==
My talk page is too big and I can't find the blank revolver question so please post it again. Sorry, but my own discussion page is just too massive to scan (I should do some cleanup to make it shorter). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shit==

I just did an edit on ''[[The Rundown]]'' while you are still editing. A useless one, too. Please make sure you don't lost the edits you're doing now... -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

==Norinco SKS Sporter==
Rosario Dawson doesn't have an SKS-D. She has a Norinco SKS Sporter which has the thumbhole stock and the shorter paratrooper barrel. the SKS-M is nearly identical but the ones marked "Sporter" have a slightly different thumbhole design (and which model she has exactly is hard to see because her hand is in the buttstock nearly all the time), but both the SKS-M and the "Norinco SKS Sporter" are thumbhole, paratrooper length barreled SKS designed to take factory AK mags, like the D model. The D Model is a standard full length SKS that takes AK mags. Frankly, I've never seen these in any real foreign warzone. Only at gunshows in the U.S. But the SKS-D was used by Chinese police alot in the 1980s and 1990s.

==Blank revolvers==
Don't know what you mean about the primers, but we don't adapt any revolvers to fire blanks. No need to. I have never had a problem with primers unless the loading process was messed up or the blanks were bad. Also recoil (too much or not enough) should have no effect on the primers. So I have fired hundreds of different revolvers with literally thousands of blanks (everything from .45 LC - .38 sp - 44 mag - .357 mag - .38 short - etc. etc. ) and never ran into any difficulty. What type of blanks were you firing? MPM

==The Rundown==
BTW, spectacular job on filling out the rest of the Rundown. Though (as expected per MY personal tastes) there are more screencaps than I would have done per gun, you really scoured that movie for every single solitary firearm in it. You caught guns that I didn't even know were in the film! Good job. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Shootemup==
I was just wondering. Why are the master screenshots so massive? 1062 pixels? on some of them. Didn't you used to edit master shots so that they were smaller? Just curious. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:51, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

==Legends of the Fall==
I corrected your discription of the weapons that Brad Pitt is carrying over his shoulder. The weapon is a Holland and Holland 10ga. Paradox used to hunt big game with 10 gauge slug. The barrels are smoth bores except for the final 2 inches before the muzzle were they are rifled. It is a rare weapon as most of which have been destroyed due over pressure from the unique design. I built the buttplate for that weapon as the wanted a brass buttplate on it. The weapon came form Ellis Mercantile- [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: I will check my old photo from Ellis to see if I have one. Holland and Holland were going to reissue the Paradox with different material for the barrels and new style rifling. The bullets were cast in the prop shop at Ellis using a pattern I made on the lathe and glued into original brass 10ga shells.

==Street Kings==

Hey,

I was just wondering if you'd be OK letting me add a few more shots to the ''[[Street Kings]]'' page. And I literally just mean a few:

*(1.) Two more shots (good ones) of Tom Ludlow with his S&W 4506.
*(2.) A better shot of Diskant with his Glock 17 when he and Tom go to the house where the real Fremont and Coates are buried.
*(3.) A shot of the fake Fremont reaching for his own Glock (which looks to be another -17) when Tom kills him during the climactic shootout.

Would that be OK?

Also, I watched the scene again where Tom kills the Koreans, and as best I can tell, the S&W 4506's muzzle flashes are not digitally added. The gun cycles and ejects spent blanks, just as I would expect.
--[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

:Tried to make it a little bit darker, but weirdly, I can't do it without really ruining the detail. Are you sure it matters if mine are a bit lighter? In daylight scenes, it's pretty hard to tell.

:Got shots of the R9, as well as more of the armory guns (there are M4s as well as M16s in there). I still couldn't figure out what kind of shotgun Coates ([[Common]]) uses, or the Korean slaver. Your guesses are as good as mine. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

==Unforgiven Shotgun==

Hi

The Colt 1878 Shotgun you have listed for the show is incorrect. The shotgun is a 10 gauge supplied by Ellis Mercantile for the film. I will check tomorrow for the manufacturer and check for a photo of the shotgun for you. Nice job on the page I took care of all those weapons before the sale. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, Check out the photo of the W. Richards that I just posted. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Dust hit gun==
It's called a Sweeney gun and I have used it. The best features of that gun are the constant air feed and the variable full auto fire mode. The Dust balls are basically clear transparent paint ball containers that are full of 'Fuller's earth'. I don't use the Sweeney gun. It's basically a really EXPENSIVE paintball gun. I opt to use a standard paintball gun myself and shoot much closer to the action, but don't tell anyone that. It's way cheaper. Also those dust balls are really expensive. (think about 2$ a shot) As are the "Sparking" balls. Special effects houses also make full glass balls (these are all the same size as paintballs) which are designed to shatter windows and then the glass balls shatter themselves, thus 'masking' the source of the shatter (good for people's houses that you don't like) and metallic balls which blow out Car windows. MPM

==Review on Wanted==
You asked me a long time ago to review your WANTED page, and I deferred, primarily because I glanced at it briefly and saw that it might have spoilers. Now that I have seen the film I went back to the page. You did a lot of hard work and it shows. Also I was a bit horrified at the sheer amount of spoilers in the page. I would never DELETE a photo of yours on a page you built, since that seems to be an unwritten rule. I WILL delete unnecessary photos on pages that I built. I am probably going to delete all pics of Kenneth Johnson from my Rambo page ... this guy was just the head propmaster. He wasn't the armorer and this guy doesn't know anything about guns. All the armorers I know are disgusted and he (being the glory hound that he is) insisted on doing the DVD Featurette commentary on guns. the real armorers aren't even mentioned, which disgusted me. '''Anyway, back to topic, I would request that you remove the pics of Cross dying in that it is a major spoiler. ''' I fixed some of the written spoilers in that I think that the page doesn't suffer if we don't know the plot twists. Like revealing that '''Darth Vader is Luke's father''', some of these points aren't necessary. I was actually really glad I avoided the page previously since I was actually surprised at the betrayal and truth. I was surprised who Cross really was and what his motivation was. I was surprised at Fox's true test of faith and sacrifice and I was happy at the comeuppance of Sloan (the decoy surprised me completely). The entire movie experience would have been ruined if I had all those plot twists spoiled for me. For people looking up the guns (who have seen the film already), the non-spoiler explanations are good enough and clearly show what guns were in the film. Anyway, that was my input and opinion. Other than my own gripes with spoilers in general, excellent work on the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

==watermark==
excellent work on the watermark. It is a very attractive watermark. I tried a watermark already, once, and I didn't like how it looked in thumbnails. Who knows, I might start to like it in the future, but right now, I DO have hidden electronic tags in all my files (which a savvy tech person can remove, but it takes a level of skill that most pirates don't bother to develop). But I like the idea of the watermark for images I approve to be ALLOWED on other sites, like Wikipedia. As for IMFDB, I am content to (a) initially mark the files as copyrighted to IMFDB and also (b) have the invisible eletronic tags on the files themselves that outline ownership and license. Many high end programs can read this. the latest versions of Photoshop can read the electronic copyright on a file. BTW, that one wikipedia pirate got booted for stealing all those images from us at IMFDB, and he got banned. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

==Saturday Shoot --- more pics coming --- just a heads up==
'''Group message cc:d' to MT2008, GM45, Alienqueen1'''
I'm heading to another armory to photograph some more long guns this Saturday if all goes as planned. (I'll get a new StG-44 amongst other cool stuff (like a SR-25, all tricked out, etc.) I've been photographing a lot of pistols recently. Since the last group of famous gun pics took an entire day to photograph and multiple days to 'clean up and format' (and put electronic Copyright tagging) on the images. I am also returning to Stembridge/CW to photograph a bunch of their more famous subguns/shortshotguns. I already have permission to photograph the actual McMillan TAC-50 used in S.W.A.T. As far as my own inventory, I still have to rebuild and fix some of MY guns still. I still have an M249 full stock gun that I need to photograph and a Walther MPL that needs fixing. And a bunch of Benelli M3 Super 90s in different configurations :) I want to work some more on the M16 page. If I can't get a real 733 (for example) I will try to build up an exact duplicate of one in the right configuration and then take a pic of it. Some of my older photos of M16 guns (like the 733) were build ups (i.e. just a standard gun with the barrel cut down, and not the exact configuration of the original gun type). I want exact examples of each one so that our M16 page is '''the''' definitive page of M16 types on the net. BTW: I have to go down to CW again and I will try to grab more "the Quick and the Dead" guns ... :) More handguns, especially Sharon Stone's SAA and Russell Crowe's gun (and original holster) and all the original screen used guns from 'Iron Man'. ;) I am also trying to get a ton of more famous screen used western guns for GM45's pages. (I let HIM do the honors on the Western movie pages ;) ) Just a heads up guys! :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== some Westerns ==

Hey, I've been working on the pages for some Westerns and I heard you were the go-to guy on IMFDB for that sort of thing. I was wondering if you could look at my page for ''[[The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford]]'' and maybe see if there's anything I messed up. I figured it's your forte so if anyone would be able to fix it up, it would be you. Also I'm right now working on ''[[American Outlaws]]'' which has quite a number of Western guns as well, so I could let you know when I finish that and whenever you have time you might be able to check through and correct some of my inevitable errors haha. Thanks in advance - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==re: Boondock Saints==

Dude, armory scenes in movies ''always'' suck to do on IMFDB. And the one in "Boondock Saints" is probably one of the worst, even worse than ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' or ''[[The Matrix]]''. I have an AVI rip of that movie on my external HD, and I don't think I've even managed to ID everything in that scene yet myself. I know you've already one-upped me if you saw the M79, because I don't recall that one and I've only seen the movie like, oh, 50 times. (Trust me when I say that if you ever go to college in the Northeast, especially a college where the student body is mostly of Irish descent, you will be watching that movie on an ''extremely'' regular basis, not even by choice necessarily.) But, it sounds like you're working hard, so I applaud you for that.

As far as movies I plan to do, I'm trying to decide what to rent on iTunes right now that I haven't seen in a while (or not at all). I want to watch something tonight because I know I won't have time tomorrow (I'll be going to Houston and not getting back home until Sunday morning). I'm thinking about saving myself some money and working on two "gangsta" movies I used to like when I was in high school - ''[[Menace II Society]]'' and ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:38, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey I was just watching The Boondock Saints and noticed a gun you didn't include. I'm watching a full-screen version sadly, but at roughly 00:18:51 movie time (This is when Agent Smecker is in the police station and the MacManus brothers turn themselves in) There's a shot where you get a very clear view of a revolver in a shoulder holster on Detective Greenly. I figured since you built the page you'd want to add the screen and all. Hope that helps. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

Yeah no rush, just thought I'd let you know. - [[User:Diego Wolfwood|Diego Wolfwood]]

==Titles starting with 'The' ....==
I am willing to start mass changing titles that start with "The" to the standard nomenclature (used by IMDB) (i.e. instead of '''"The Shining"''' (yeah I know we don't have that movie ...) it would be '''"Shining, The"'''. I can't count how many people have complained to me (in person, not on the net) about that.

I have some famous armorers complaining about that ;) SO I am willing to start changing them myself. Any complaints? Seriously, if any of you are seriously offended by that, I will change them back.... no charge ;) But the last straw was some blog making fun of us because of that. :( So I am going to start changing the titles. Just wanted to give a heads up....

''('''edit:''' I've done nine titles as a test. So far, I like them, but I think MT2008 had a cool technique regarding re-directs which would allow the main page to have the fixed titles, but when you click on it, it goes to the original named page. Let me know what you think) :)''

Update on the new gun pics....
I started the new photo shoot on Say, but had to cut it short. Will reschedule and complete my massive new gun shoot either tomorrow or the next day. When I have a bunch, I start uploading them. :) But you guys are already bored with guns pics by now.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Title change==
Well we all can disagree on somethings, I've always hated how our listing alphabetized on "the" as a "T". I think that's just stupid, since nearly everyone ignores "The" when looking for a title. Libraries do it, Video stores do it and I get pissed when I look for "The Dark Knight" but instinctively look in the 'D' section and see nothing. I've hated it since I joined the site, but also recently I've shown this site to famous armorers, and when their first comment is "great site, but sorting by "the", that's stupid" was the motivation I had to get off my ass and fix it. Heck, Mike Papac hated it. So I will still change the titles. I think you will find it easier to find movie pages as well. Thanks for your understanding. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Winchester 1897==

Hey John

I was working on that right now. The Trench Gun photo although it is nice was not correct for some of those films. Just trying to help out on correcting an error. Just taking time to do. Also I discovered that there was two different 1897 Trench guns on IMFDB as samples that was the on was better than the other. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
: Hey John, I just checked the links on both images Riot Guns and Trench Guns and did not see any errors on the pages. The sample matched the screen caps on them if I missed one late last night I am sorry. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Appaloosa==
Hey John
Since you are a Western Fan did you see this movie yet? When you do the page let me know as I built the 8 gauge for it and have photos for you. Also I got the okay to photograph the 10 gauge shotgun from Unforgiven will have them for you next week. The manufacturer of the shotgun is W. Richards originally owned by Ellis Mercantile and sold in 1999.
:No problem John on the Win 97. Great job on the westerns as for the Lonesome Dove Series thats a lot of ground. I worked on the guns for the prequel and Streets of Laredo. The same prop department did both shows and he picked several guns that I can track down for you. I hope you like everything I have been posting so far. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

::Hey John, Thanks for the heads up I posted a photo of the shotgun when I finished it. I also put a thread for the shotgun I am not sure if or when they will be used again as Gibbons Ltd. was sold to ISS at the end of last year. I took photos of the fabrication of these shotguns it was a cool project but as everything Hollywood it had to be done quick. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Mr & Mrs Smith==
You can go ahead and do it. You know I am just hoping you don't go crazy with the screencaps. YOU DO have an amazing ability to catch guns that I miss. I just had to prove that the Widow maker wasn't some existing launcher that was slightly modified, to another member. Also, I noticed that your recent Matrix shots are very big but are low resolution, so they look a little fuzzy. Were these done on another computer? Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix==
Sorry. Didn't mean to slam Matrix pics so much. But I did notice the image size versus the file size and it was kinda low resolution. They didn't look bad, but remember when some of your screencaps were so awesome that I actually thought you had bought a Blu-ray machine! :) I uploaded some pics very similar to your screencaps for comparison. Maybe Matrix is a fuzzy movie (A Bridge Too Far was maddening since it seemed like the entire movie was filmed through a layer of gauze) I did notice that the Matrix shots are still a little ''''squished''''. Maybe its an optical illusion, but maybe they look fuzzier because they aren't as bright. For some reason, my screencapping software has bright output and (IMHO) a little sharper image. Let me know what you think. But I know you can do it since I've seen your bright screencaps before. :)

[[Image:MatrixDesertEagle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-DEa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-Cheetah2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

[[Image:MatrixBeretta84F-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:Matrix-CheetahA.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]

BTW: you did an amazing job on the Matrix page. Especially with the Virtual Armory. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

==Admins==
FYI I am not for making any more people Admins until they've been on the site for a longer time. I'm not being weird about it, but we're seeing a lot of good contributors and unfortunately a lot of 'energetic but wrong' contributors. I want to give ALL new members a probation period to see how they work out. Also, I've noticed that some energetic new members are slowly changing the formats of pages, away from what the original Admins have been doing. MPM2008
::Sure, no problem. He seems reasonable and listens to input from us Admins, which is a good thing. Also he is patient and doesn't fly off the handle, something we need more of, being that the Internet makes things more hostile than they really are... ! :) I was just making sure since we seem to be getting a lot more 'active' users, and some of them have 'uneven' accuracy histories. :) MPM

== Speakeasy804 ==

I just granted him sysop privileges - thanks for the recommendation, I think he's been a great contributor to the community. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 00:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thank you for the recommendation, I greatly appreciate it! I've got a full list of movies lined up so I'll certainly be keeping myself busy! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

==Need your help here==
Since YOU have the eagle eyes. I'm not sure WHAT the silenced pistols are that John Smith has. See the screenshots. They are definitely two toned guns with the lower grips black and the upper Stainless....

[[Image:MMS-Twin-Silenced-Pistolsa.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]
[[Image:MMS-TwinSilencedPistols2a.jpg‎ |thumb|none|600px|Shot of the two pistols (I think they are the same gun)]]

Here are the candidates that people suggested:
[[Image:BrowningBuckmarkCamperSS.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:BrowningBuckmark2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Browning Buckmark Camper]]
[[Image:RugerMkIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk II - Silenced]]
[[Image:RugerMkIIISilenced.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Ruger Mk III silenced - note the slight changes from the Mark II]]

What do you think? :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==You might get a kick out of this==
Would YOU want a handgun collection like this? The pistols on the right side belong to Syd Stembridge (he still has some stuff), and the back wall and left wall belong to Mike Papac. (And yes, the boxes on the ground are full, there is no room on the walls left. All the empty slots are for handguns that are either out for repair or out on rental. My own handgun inventory is less than half of theirs, so I'm a small fry compared to these guys. But I thought you'd get a kick out of this pic. A similar pic has been seen in articles in the past about Stembridge Gun Rentals, so it's nice to see that this room still exists, though I need a bigger wide angle lens, I can't get back far enough to even get a fraction of the room. It is massive.
[[Image:HandgunRoom.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|the handgun room]]
::When I saw this, I felt like a kid in some kind of store - [[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]]
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

==Quote on Mr & Mrs Smith==
Who keeps on reverting my correction for John's quote? I played it five times to verify what he is saying, even though Pitt is mumbling when he speaks, he distinctly says "You should not be allowed to buy these things." I also turned on the closed caption as well to prove what the guy is saying. He never says anything about "kids".
[[Image:MMS-QuoteCorrect.jpg|thumb|none|700px|The Correct quote - what John Smith says after blowing up the shack.]]
Anyway, excellent work so far on the page. I noticed that you noticed too that there are NO good pics of the KTR rifle that Jane uses... :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

==Colt 25?==
I'm asking you since you know a lot about older firearms. Isn't the Colt 25 as listed on IMFDB the same as the Colt Model 1908 Vest pocket? I think it's the same gun, but I wanted independent verification. I ask because I hate it when I shoot a custom pic for IMFDB (so as not to violate anyone's copyright) and other members STILL upload 'jacked' images off of Google of the SAME GUN, undoing the point of getting licensed images for IMFDB (versus violating someone else's copyright). Anyway I wanted to make sure that these were the same pistol. Thanks for your expertise. MPM
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_25
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:Colt25.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Colt_Model_1908_Vest_Pocket

==Imagine if you will.......==
Walking down a hallway in a warehouse, from floor to ceiling are wooden cubbyholes, in these cubby holes are jammed multiple items which comprise three specific things (either submachine gun, select fire pistol, or short barreled shotgun). I am not sure how these items are sorted but I don't care, I like it! I LOVE poking around places like this. It make me happy :) I also see some items which I will try to photograph for IMFDB in the future (recognizing some of the stuff that I have on my list to take pics of for some of the specific movie pages). I just needed to cheer myself up after hearing daily news from the new administration! Just thought I'd share it! :)
[[Image:ArmoryWall02.jpg‎|thumb|none|700px|Which cubbyhole do you want to stick your hand in first!? ;) ]]
MPM2008

==Re: Sgt. York ==
Hey John, Thanks for the help on that I will go ahead and setup the pages that way. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Hey John, Check out how I did on Sgt.York and let me know if I got it right.
:Also what listing do you have a sample of this --M1911-- (substituting equal signs) that way I can take a look at it. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Okay I think I got it. I added to the the description on the Luger and removed the link on the titles and the excess wording in the Luger photo. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==MM Smith Unknown 1911 Variant==
Hey John, I believe the 1911 shown is a Mile High Armory custom built 45 pistol. I also looks like a left hand 1911 as I can not see the slide stop or thumb safety on the side with the ejection port like a Randall left handed 1911. Check out http://www.milehigharmory.com they have a photo of a Randell. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Check under portfolio for the photos of their work. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Pages Lock Out==
Hey John, I know when you are completely done with a page some of the Mod's lock them out. I figure that way no one can mess with their Pet. But why lock out the actors pages associated with that show? The actors associated with [[The Wild Geese]] can not be accessed to add information and other shows since they worked more than one show. I thought the whole purpose of this wiki is to get the most complete information on the Show,Actor and Weapon possible. Please help out on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]
:: Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== 1911's and other models. ==

Thanks for your message. Very nice. Don't worry about how some cops might think you're a smart ass. We all tend to be that way when it comes to teenagers.Teenagers and cops are like oil and water. But usually once we see that you're on the level we tend to change our tone.Take me for example. I'm an '''old''' cop. At 41 I tend to come across as an old grouchy fart to kids, but I do warm up.

I grew up in a 1911 household. My father was also a cop as well as a Vietnam veteran. Though he carried the S&W Model 28 and later the S&W Model 65 as his sidearms he was (is) all about 1911's. At one point he owned ''seven'' of them. He's now down to a 1911A1, Colt Commander and a Colt Officers Model.

Even though I appreciate what John Browning accomplished with the 1911, and aknowledge it's strengths (i.e. it's excellent grip), I've just never taken a liking to it. When it comes to autos I prefer the "classic" Sig design, Glock and Beretta. I'm also fond of the Browning Hi-Power so Mr. Browning's pistol designs do have some influence with me.

However I'm a big fan of revolvers. I own many many wheelguns. Smith & Wessons make up the bulk of my collection, but there are a couple Colts and a [[Webley Mk VI]] - which is my pride and joy.

I've been a gun-nut almost all of my life so you are not unusual at your age. I'm a firearms instructor at my department as well. Combine my interest of firearms with my love of movies and many of my fellow officers look at me like I'm some type of whacko. But whne they have a question about guns, movies or need help improving their pistol score guess who they come looking for?

Talk to you later. [[Jcordell]]

Oh one more thing. I downloaded an image of a [[Savage 99]] rifle. I even figured out how to create a page, but how do I get the image to show up on the page? I have a link but no photo. Help me out partner. Please. [[Jcordell]]

== Thanks for your help ==

Appreciate it. HAve to help us old guys out now and again. [[User: Jcordell|Jcordell]]
Ah - ha! Got it.

The lever action rifle dosen't deliver the same type of accuracy as a bolt action. But it's fast and easy for lefties (like me) to use with ease. Plus there is the historical signifance.

== Winchester Model 1895 ==

I live in Idaho. Last summer Imade it down to Provo, Utah and went to the Browning museum. Also went and saw the old Browning shop. I mentioned that I don't really care for the 1911. But I do enjoy the Hi-Power and I'm a big fan of the Winchester 1895. I own one in 30-06. One of the new ones made back in 1996. I also own an 1897 riot-gun which I'm fond of. So I understand your fondess of Browning guns. Take care. Keep on working.

I've done what I could for Dirty Harry and Outlaw Josey Wales pages but I'm sure you'll improve them.[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== My job here ==

Yeah, you're right about my "act" here. I've been a little sloppy lately and I will finish doing the rest of some of the pages like my first few. Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, and Black Lagoon are pages I really need to do since they were my first pages. I'll make a note to finish those pages and put links on them [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Colt Troopers. ==

Will do. I didn't know that. Thanks.

==Colt Mustang==
The Colt Mustang (a .380 pistol) is on the M1911 page. I don't think it belongs there. All those other models are in .45 acp (or they have other calibers as well as 45 ACP), but essentially they are .45 guns. I was going to pull the Colt mustang and create a page for the Mustang/Pony since they are both subcompact Colt guns in .380. What do you think? MPM20008

==S&W MkII Hand Ejector==
Hey John, I think this and the S&W M1917 has the same info they both the same N frames different calibers. Maybe they should be combined into a S&W Pre-War N Frame or the M1917 info transferred to the S&W MkII Hand Ejector. The same goes for the Colt M1917 as it is a Colt New Service in .45 ACP. Just thought you should know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Thanks ==

Thanks for identifying the green handgun, with the way actors treat guns sometimes, one can only imagine.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

==orphaned image==
What is this from? It's not linked to any page.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:45-110Sharps.jpg
MPM2008

==Bergmann MP18==
Hey John. In the Gun section we have a duplicate listing the Bergmann MP18 which is fine and the MP18. They both have the same info and photo figure that you can get rid of one. Thanks. Steve

== ''CSI: Miami'' S&W Semi-Auto ID ==

I don't think the pistol shown on ''[[CSI: Miami]]'' is a [[Smith & Wesson 5900 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 5946|S&W 5946]]. If you look at the screenshot versus the photo on the gun's page, you can see the gun in the screenshot has a decocker safety on the right side of the slide while the one in the photo does not. The [[Smith & Wesson 4000 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 4046|Smith & Wesson 4046]] does have a right-handed safety though. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

==In the Line of Fire Llama==
Hey John, Just to give you a heads up the Llama used In The Line of Fire is a Llama IIIA in .380 caliber. The weapons on the show were supplied by Ellis Mercantile. Also I might have a photo of the prop double for the composite pistol. The firing model was cut into three pieces after the movie was filmed. Thanks Steve

==XM16E1==

Hey John, I edited one of MPM's photo hope he doesn't mind to much but his photos are awesome. I worked on get those rifles ready for We Were Soldiers a couple of month prior to filming. It's amazing the research we did on all the weapons from that battle reconfigured our XM16E1 back to 1965. We even built the correct AK's for Vietnam since everyone else always used stamped receiverd AK. When the show was done everyone though we were wrong until you look and the combat photos and we were correct. Most critics completely missed that we only had two of the correct model Huey's. Steve

==Idea for New Page==
Hey John, I had an idea for a new page just on blank cartridges. Maybe we can ask MPM about getting some photos or I can get some myself when I go back to the armory after wrap. Thanks Steve

==Taking no more gun pics==
apparently it is becoming more acceptable for others to create 'frankengun' photoshop jobs out of my original pics and not even give credit. (for the record, YOU ALWAYS gave me credit and it was appreciated. Besides, I always ended up photographing the real deal as a result). Heck. I would give credit to the previously Google jacked shots that I clean up with recropping, or color correcting if I knew who the original photographer was. But that's a minor point. My intent all along was to replace all jacked images with official licensed images. It's a lot of hard work and only a very few (like you) even seem to appreciate it. (plus you're way more tolerant of the inevitable flood of conflicting page styles and info from new (and some anonymous) users ... inevitable as the site gets more recognition). I'm on hiatus for taking pics of guns for a bit. Working hard for IMFDB should be enjoyable, not irritating. :( A break is good thing. MPM

== M4 vs. M4A1 ==

The original M4 did NOT have a removable carry handle, it had a fixed one with 3-round burst. The original M4 was pretty much an M16A2's upper & lower recievers with a telescoping stock and 14.5" barrel with cuts for mounting the M203 ahead of the front sight assembly. It was the later M4A1 that featured the flat-top upper/full auto lower reciever assemblies. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 19:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

==re:==

The very earliest Type 56s, which were made 1956-1963, were built with milled receivers. The Poly Tech Legend is something completely different - it's a semi-auto copy of the original AK-47 designed for the civilian market in the 1980s. It looks almost identical to the original Russian AK-47 (visually, they're pretty much impossible to tell apart) and does not have the full-circle front sight of the Type 56. The receiver style has nothing to do with it. There were Type 56s which had milled receivers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

:No worries. Also, I addressed your debate with Orca on the M4/M4A1 on his talk page. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Young Guns ==

Great job with ''[[Young Guns]]''! I especially liked the inclusion of the picture of the real Billy the Kid holding his Winchester compared to the photo of Estevez in the film. Nice added historical bit - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:You were definitely right about the picture, the more I look at it the more I wonder if there wasn't ''something'' they could've done to make it look a little more accurate. Thanks for the compliment about the Bond films (they're favorites) and good luck with the ''[[Dirty Harry]]'' films and all - Clint will be proud once he sees the work you've done! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:: Nice job on Young Guns including the photo of the real Billy the Kid. I don't know if you knew this fact about that photo is that the plate was reversed. The load gate on the Winchester is on the wrong side where as the Emilio Estevez photo is on the correct side.

==RE: RoboCop 2==

Thanks! I actually think it's a cool concept, but for Hob, it's the perfect weapon. It goes with his whole tactic of taking advantage of his age. "Officer reporting: It's just some kid carrying a blue lunchbox. No way he shot those dudes."

Sorry to hear you're sick, but have fun doing the "Dirty Harry" movies. Oh, and I had no idea that Eastwood's gun in the first one was a Model 25. That's news to me, but it does make perfect sense, for the reasons you explained. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:03, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

== re: Nice Work ==

Thanks for the compliments! Feel free to make any adjustments with the Model B on ''The Untouchables'' page, I had neglected to think about that when I made the page, assuming Costner was using all M1911A1s and only that one henchman had a Star. Looking back, I can see I was wrong but I didn't get enough angles in enough scenes to discern when Costner had a Model B. I appreciate the help with that!
Also, I'll peruse ''The Godfather'' sometime very soon and get a shot of the M1A1, just for completion's sake.
On a different note, great job with the first ''Dirty Harry''. Those pages have been in dire need of a fix-up and you're certainly doing justice to those great movies! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:Also, I recall maybe a few weeks ago you had asked about ''[[The World Is Not Enough]]'' - I just fixed it up tonight in case you're interested/have any input - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
::Thanks for the TWINE corrections, I was curious about some of the M1911A1s and I figured you'd know what was what. I do have ''Casino Royale'' so I can add that to my list, and I'll probably get ''Quantum of Solace'' pretty soon. I agree that Walther is probably upset that they've gone back to the PPK instead of the PPS - I guess that was the filmmakers' way of responding to audiences who wanted a more "classic" feel? I'll try and get QoS as soon as possible (I think the only Bond I have left to screencap otherwise is ''Never Say Never Again'' which isn't even technically part of the series). Great work with ''Magnum Force'' as well - all these pages are looking better and better! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
:::I never saw ''Flashpoint'' but the caps we have from it make it look pretty entertaining. Also, I saw ''Magnum Force'' is done - looks great! I should have a bunch more DVDs coming in this week so I'll try and get back on my game. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]

== Enfield Enforcer Sniper Rifle ==
Gunmaster,
Could you please mearge this page with the Short Action Lee Enfield page as the Enfield Enforcer is just a 7.62 NATO version of the WW2 Lee Enfield Sniper varient.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

==Lois and Clar: The New Adventures of Superman==
Hi John, Nice to be back after working on location. I notice this page list as new the tile is misspelled and the format is not correct. Could you fix this as it does not look right being misspelled. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== KAC SR-25 ==

If you read the paragraph at the top of the [[Knight's Armament SR-25]] page, you'll see that the M110 is the designation of the SR-25 given by the U.S. Army. Aside from the name and some other minor differences, they're virtually identical weapons. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Hello other-young-gun-nut ==

I finally have an account here now, I've been working on the site for about a year as an AU. Some of the pages I've helped create inclue CSI miami which I pretty much built up from the ground, and The Island, Constantine, and LA Confidential. Dude, we NEED to do HOUSE MD!--[[User:GlocksRevilACP|GlocksRevilACP]] 04:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

==THANKS! for the note of support==
It was appreciated. Well I am back from a pretty tough assignment (over a week of 14 hour days and nothing but grief) Actually I didn't know WHO did WHAT on the so called franken guns. I was not really paying attention for months to the M16 page and only concentrated on the AP74 22 clones at the bottom. I didn't even know that some guy (Kin93) out of Hong Kong had made so many franken guns out of my pics. But after a really BAD week (which I will go into on a general note later) I scanned up on the M16 page and saw literally a bunch of Franken M16 pics. I thought "WTF?!!" It wasn't so bad, in just it was just the topper of a really bad week (where someone in the real world took a custom shotgun I built, replaced the buttstock, and then showed it off to various art directors as a gun 'HE' built even though I did 99.99% of the work). So it was kinda just the straw that bent (not broke! :) ) the Camel's back for that time. I KNEW I had to take a break, and I sure felt better when I put a stop to the 'picture requests'. like a weight was taken off my back. (Also I was getting a little TOO wound up over the wave of new anonymous/newbie users whose gun knowledge is only airsoft/Video Games making wrong edits on all the pages. It was bound to happen and is the risk we all take on an open wiki page. Anyway THANKS for the note. I am now motivated to photograph real versions of the Franken guns, also so that we (IMFDB) don't get accused of 'creating virtual/fictional weapons' on the Internet.) Hope you've been doing well. best regards MPM

==Beretta 9000S==
You da man! I figured your EAGLE EYES would catch which beretta model Jane's gun was...! :) MPM2008

== Dirty Harry Series Re-vamp ==

If you're the one who has been re-vamping the Diry Harry movies, thank you so much. It was really weak at first and you made it WAY better. I hope you re-vamp ''Sudden Impact'' and ''The Dead Pool'' as well because they are pretty weak.

== Hostage Molotovs ==

While I understand that you worked on this page (and, I must admit, you did a damn good job on it), please remember that this is the Internet Movie ''FIREARMS'' Database. Molotovs aren't firearms. Sorry.

:That seems fair enough. Thank you for at least taking the time to talk to me, instead of just throwing a ban on me for a "first offense" so to speak (a few other administrators tend to overreact). I understand now. Thanks.

==Colt 1903 new page==
Hey John, There is a new Colt 1903 page that needs to be removed as it is a duplicate of the Colt Model 1903/1908 page we already have. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==AMT Pistols page==
Awesome work on the AMT page. It's been needed. Have you been talking to Rockwolf? Anyway, it's been sorely needed, but this was the best compromise possible since these guns were 'automags' in name only. Unfortunately there are VERY few of these types of guns in movie weapons rental inventory. No one ever wanted them. MPM2008
:: Only the original AMC guns were written "Auto Mag". When Arcadia Machine & Tool Company 'ripped off' the Auto Mag mystique they avoided copyright infringement by writing their guns as 'AUTOMAG". Get it? only one word. ''"No your honor. We're not licensed to make Auto Mags. That name belongs to the remnants of the AMC company. Our gun is called the Automag! Completely different!"'' So the original guns are two words, the mutant long slides are just one word. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:::That would make sense, since changing the name to one word rather than two words was the way AMT tried to legally differentiate themselves from AMC. Unfortunately TONS of literature and sources on the net screw it up and name the AMT guns with Auto Mag versus Automag. And vice versa. It's your page. It's up to you. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Last crusade==
Thanks. I screencapped ALL of the Indy films but I have to resize them and fix them for uploading. I sure hope no one starts doing it before I'm done. I hope some of the other users don't mind i replaced their shots, but some of the screenshots are pretty blurry or just not really clear. I don't know how it looks on your monitor, but I think my screenshots are clearer (take some of the other indy films for instance, except for the obvious "Production stills"). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

==Redacted==
For the record, I am offended that this title is on here and would sooner see it deleted. I am going to request to the other admins that it be deleted. It is an insult to all Veterans (myself included). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:17, 4 April 2009 (UTC) And if Bowling for Columbine ever shows up here, it's gone.

::Edit, sorry I'm not picking on you. I just didn't want you to go through the trouble of screencapping that film. I figured all the younger members of IMFDB aren't as tuned into the feelings of American Veterans. MPM

==Thanks for the reply==
But I would argue its a lot easier to hold an absolutely 'neutral' attitude when one has no 'dog in the fight' per se. Having served some time in service I have such a disdain for that work that I must admit I get really angry when I see it. Perhaps in years to come, like the people who suffered on 9/11 may be able to stomach "watching a movie where Americans are the bad guys and the hijackers are the heroes", I may be able to stomach trash like DePalma's piece of crap. There are tons of more worthy films that have not been listed yet. We are so far away from being the all encompassing film database like IMDB that if we get closer to listing EVERYTHING, then we would be obligated to list even the most despicable listings. I would argue that it is controversial right now (perhaps not so much later on), but there is little upside to keeping it. Again thanks for your honest discourse. Always a pleasure. MPM2008

==addendum==
Yeah, I probably would feel better if we had a disclaimer that we don't support the film but list it for purely informational purposes so that IMFDB doesn't end up offending vets or families of vets who come here. I think that is the biggest concern for me. Anyway, thanks again for the note. Now that we're getting controversial, I might as well start listing the guns for "Triumph of the Will" ;) hahahah. thanks again. MPM2008

== Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]] ==

You're right about the model used by Tyne Daley in [[The Enforcer]]. It does look like a Python snubbie, but I still think Felton Perry is using a Colt Diamondback in [[Magnum Force]]. It looks like it has a smaller frame which would match the Diamondback. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

Great. thanks. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==Re: LaFrance Specialties M16K Question==
Hey John, Tim LaFrance made the M16K with both types of upper receivers. I am trying to nail down how many variations of the M16K there are. I have what looks like four variation maybe five. But the one in your photos are M16K. Hope this helps. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I just uploaded a photo of the M16K with Forward Assist that you can use. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

I've used a .45 version of the M-16K in my personal fiction but I don't think that one has appeared on film yet. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 05:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

==VIP==
Thanks. I work hard on the Screenshots to make them look better. And as you've pointed out, I like bad cinema and tv. re: Model 36 pic. I don't want it to seem that I was in any way yelling at you when I reverted that image. That picture bothers me now. It was a project gun of a gunsmith and I checked the frame and it was definitely marked 36-2 (I take detailed notes when I take photographs of guns) and I'm no Smith & wesson expert, but the details LOOK like the more modern revolvers. Should I delete the image? The front sight and cylinder latch 'could' have been updated with newer parts. I hate having pics like this which 'could' be custom and not indicative of a standard model. Thoughts? MPM2008

==VIP gun help==
I have some pics in the 'to be sorted' section of the VIP page. Two shots of a suppressed pistol and one hard to see shot of an LAPD detective's revolver. Since you're the eagle eye on the site, do you have any ideas? Thanks. MPM2008

== Diamondback or Python ==

Hey, I know you just finished re-vamping ''[[The Enforcer]]'', so I figure you'd be able to help. I'm not so sure that Insp. Moore is using a Colt Python. It's possible, but it looks more like the Diamondback that Insp. Perry used in the previous movie, ''[[Magnum Force]]''. What do you think? [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]]

Well for what it's worth I think that Tyne Daley is carrying a Colt Python "snubbie" in ''[[The Enforcer]]''. It looks to be the right size since the Diamondback is built on the same frame as the Colt Detective Special while the Python was built on the old 41 frame - a bigger frame. Also the hammer's spur on the revolver carried by Tyne Daley looks like a Python hammer instead of the Diamondback. But I do believe that Felton Perry was carrying a Diamondback in ''[[Magnum Force]]''. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

== Outlaw Josey Wales ==

Nice work. One of my favorite movies and the original page bothered me. It's looking very good. [[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]]

==What the hell happened with In The Line of Fire?==

Your pictures and information show up on the history pages, but when you click on the main link, it shows the page as it was before you touched it. WTF? --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 23:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

==Collateral==
Hey John, Matt had asked me that same question so I talked to the other armorer on set Larry. Larry confirmed it was a two-tone Jericho 941 Blued slide and a hard chrome receiver. I was working with the SWAT guys for the night club scene and Larry handled the stunt guy which is who had that weapon. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:John, It looks like the first photo is the two-tone Jericho 941 and photos two and three are the two-tone EAA Witness as those are different stuntmen. I would try and get some paperwork as backup but those were Gibbons Ltd gun and they have been sold to ISS.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, I have an ID for that other pistol on Collateral for you. I Talked to Larry who was the General Manager of Gibbons Ltd and the armorer on Collateral. He looked up the paperwork on the show and said they were the Sphinx AT 2000 made in Switzerland. I have found the photo and will add shortly. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:: John, That's a lot of movies for the weekend can't wait to see them. I am working on the following
* ''[[Miracle at St. Anna]]'' filling out the page
* ''[[Bullets or Ballots]]''
* ''[[Warbirds]]'' A bad SciFi Channel Movie.
* ''[[Lady Gangster]]''

Screencaps are finished on those movies just working on the layouts.

==Winchester 1892==
John, Sorry about the upload of the 94. I deleted the 92 thinking it was the 94 I will have to see my friend to take the photo again. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Category:Flare Pistol==
Hey John, Could you please delete this category I made this one by mistake. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Thanks for the assist. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Enemy at the Gates==
I appreciate the weapons I missed. That's the eagle eyes I expect. BUT .... I'm not at all happy with MORE shots of the guns I already have. You and I have a fundamental difference of opinion regarding the number of screenshots for a movie page. You like to have WAY more than I like to have per weapon and though it really irritates me, I don't do anything to your pages. I do get annoyed when you add gun pics to the sections where I already have pics. I certainly cannot trim down the screenshots on pages that you make, though on pages like LMS I sure would like to delete about HALF of the screenshots, Why should I have to accept something which I fundamentally disagree with ... on my own pages? MPM

==Seecamp==
Are you answering the question I asked MT2008? re: the Seecamp 32 in Die Hard with a Vengeance? or are you ID'ing the pistol that Pamerla Andersen has in the bathtub in V.I.P.? Also I have some guns I can't ID on the Bionic Woman page, so I'd ask the EAGLE EYE if you have the time MPM2008

==RE:==

Well, I see you're already doing it anyway. :) But yeah, it's cool if you want to upload more. Just don't go ''too'' crazy. Also, you should go ahead and separate the AK variants. When I did this page originally, IMFDB wasn't in the habit of distinguishing the Norinco Type 56s from the AK-47 or AKM, so go ahead and separate the first section into the different variants. Also, it seems a lot of the Type 56-1s in the movie have the AKM-style receiver cover and grip. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, you can replace all my old ones if you wish. They're somewhat lower-res than yours. Also, did you see the nickel-plated AK on the wall of Yuri's weapons container? The one with the forward grip? That's this gun: http://weaponspecialists.com/view-prop.php?id=160&name=AK47-Stainless It was originally made for the movie ''[[Belly]]''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

:Sounds good. It looks WAY better, plus it has lots of guns that I missed. Also, I think there may be an AR-7 variant in Yuri's gun container (it's visible in the same screencap as the ''[[Belly]]'' AK). I have a few more comments on the page, but I'll wait until you're done before I make them to avoid edit conflicts. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

== Bourne Identity (1988) ==

Hey, thanks for the quick help with some of the guns in the original Bourne Identity. Before I change the Makarov entry, you said it was actually a CZ-82. Is each gun used a CZ-82 or just ones in certain scenes? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! I don't think we have an entry yet on those, do you know any other movies they were in? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::Interesting, learn something new everyday. I'll link it to the CZ-83 page with an explanation on the picture that's a commercial version of the military pistol. And of course, thanks for the help! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

==Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873==
Hey John, I see that you added the blued Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 back to the Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 page. Just to let you know the the revolver was never issued blued it was issued in a bare metal finish only. That was the reason I uploaded the correct image over MPM's. Just letting you know. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: I agree with keeping the original finish, but here's a thought ..., if some armorer somewhere, at sometime decided to BLUE his gun and it appeared in any film (I'm not saying it has) but if it did, we would be benefited from having a blued version, even though it would technically be some gunsmith's aftermarket conversion. Just at thought. But the revolver WAS issued only "in the white" historically... :) MPM2008

==Did you take this picture?==
I was going to replace it with a licensed shot I shot myself of the same pistol but I wouldn't if you were the original photographer of this shot. Thanks. MPM2008
http://www.imfdb.org/images/b/b3/S%26W25.jpg

== Help ==

How do i take picures and add them to the website like the pink panther 1 which i seen alot of guns. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S R U AND ADMIN OR A SYSOP? [[User:Drjuki]]

Srry i'm asking alot of questions i'm kinda new here, anyway do you know of the game endless war? if you do would it be considered a flash animation? and also who created this site? thanks. [[User:drjuki]]

==Finally replaced some of the old images==
[[Image:Jerich941-Two-Tone01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two tone Jericho 941. All of our Jericho (original pics) are of the original 941. I don't have any of the 941FS, which seems to be the model which is used whenever they have two toned Jericho pistols - the FS has the decocker on the frame, not the slide. I'll check around to see if anyone has a 941FS model.]]
[[Image:HK91A3.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Heckler & Koch HK91-A3. I hated that jacked image of the A3 model with a 'custom flash hider and barrel' it was a non-standard configuration that no one would ever see in a movie.]]
[[Image:WinchesterModel1894.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1894 - .30-30. Is this a saddle ring carbine? There's no marking on it other than Winchester Model 1894 - .30-30 Winchester and there doesn't seem to be a hole for the saddle ring, but it looks to be the same]]
[[Image:Benelli m3-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|FINALLY replaced that jacked image of a Benelli M3 Super 90!! I will also have a version of the M3 with ghost ring sights and the shorter pistol grip version soon]]
[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Finally replaced that 'place holder' picture of the black Jericho 941. I was sitting, staring at a 941 for weeks, but I didn't have time to set up the photographic lighting rig. This one is way better than the previous one.]]
I'm just doing pics as I can, not rushing out and killing myself trying to get weird or wacky configurations. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Redirecting ==

How do you properly do Redirects without losing the history of the page it was before? Because everytime I do it, I mess up somehow. I tried redirecting to The Hills Have Eyes to Hills Have Eyes (2006), The, but got a red link, so I a filled in the blank page, and the somehow, the original name to the the pages still remains in the recent changes list. Thanks for any help.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I'll remember to use move instead, some anonymus user created the page before I tried redirecting it. I know I haven't done any work in a long time, once in awhile I'll find a movie I want to screencap, right now I'm thinking about uploading some extra shots for [[I Am Legend]]. Btw, good job on you most recent pages.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I found a few good shots in the movie that were missed, although I'm not completely comfortable about replacing someone else's screengrabs, so I might put some screenshots on the talk page for anyone who's more comfortable with replacing them. Also, I've seen Ctone's blog too, and he does a great job, especially with his screenshots. I think I might get started screencapping now since I have alot of free time. Thanks for the Redirect btw.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded all the shots I got so far, and I'll be uploading more tomorrow as well. If you have any suggestions for screenshots, let me know.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

==Madness Combat==
Does anyone where i could post a madness combat page, i have like tewlve pages filled with guns and I HAVE TO POST THEM!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Drjuki]]

No i know i can't post them here, i was just wondering if you knew a site where i could. [[User:Drjuki]]

== I Am Legend ==

Sure, I'll get pictures when I put the DVD in.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Call of duty 2 ==

Hey i don't plan these i just add pics if it needsem or add text if it needs em. I don't even have half the games i edit on here. [[User:Drjuki]]

Yes I was. [[User:Drjuki]]

== RE: COD4(DS) ==
Beacause I've seen some site that listed them. IMFDB Isn't the only site that has weapons in Anime, Movies, TV, And Video Games you know. Sure it's the best one but, you know there are some sites. [[User:Drjuki]]

P.S The reason I don't write very well is because I am not used to writing without spellcheck, and grammer check. [[User:Drjuki]]

That is a good I will do that. [[User:Drjuki]]

== Pictures ==

I have a question, if there was a movie where a guy got his head blown off but he had a gun in his hand, would users be allowed to take that pic and other gruesome images? [[User:Drjuki]]

Would you be able to tell me a list of pages that have those? Not all them but just the ones you know. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

== Contact Info? ==

Hey GM45, I was wondering, do you have any instant messenger programs or the like? I'd like to chat with you off-site if possible. You can send your contacts to the email address listed on my userpage if you'd prefer to keep from getting spammed. Hope to hear from you soon. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:36, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey um, i have a website that has a chatroom on it it's kinda a failed project it's not done yet, if so how's may 9th 3:30?
heres the link http://charlietheunicornstuff.synthasite.com/

You know what f**k that [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]]

==Re:Appaloosa==
Hey John, Glade you like the film I enjoyed it. Most armories will not give credit to the designer or build for fear they client will go direct to the designer next time around. I only have one armory that tells everyone what I build for them. I will work on those 8 Gauge photos this weekend. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Not sure who did the sound for the show. They most likely re-recorded all the gunfire as they plan to make a second movie. That way the will have their own sound library for the next show.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Appaloosa screencaps. ==

Looking forward to your screencaps. It's a great movie and the page has been needing some help. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Looks great. Probably one of the best westerns I've seen in years. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

:Hey John, Nice work on the [[Appaloosa]] page. I am going though the build photos for the [[SK 1878 shotgun]] now and hope to post late tonight the photos and some background with them. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==WTF?==
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Beretta_M92_%22Samurai_Edge%22
This is a dedicated gun page to a firearm that belongs to the Resident Evil VG universe only. Do you think this gun deserves a separate page? Being that it is a weapon that only exists in either airsoft or the VG series Resident Evil and is based on the 92FS or Elite alreadY? Your thoughts are appreciated. MPM2008

== When we're gone... ==
What are we going to do when are syops and admins start leaving? When we die, (not literally but not go here anymore) what will happen? Will we appoint new ones? (P.S I've helped out every call of duty page, so thats 10 pages!) Or will we just shut down this site? Will we start making pages for Halo and gears of war when lasers come out? Drjuki.

== Flash ==

Could we make a seperate IMFDB for just flash? We could call it IFFDB (Internet Flash Firearms DataBase)? Drjuki.

==Can You use this anywhere?==
[[Image:TaurusPT92-2tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Taurus PT92 Two Tone - 9mm]]
Another MPM 2008 Image.... ;) MPM2008

==More for your Shootem up page==
[[Image:TaurusPT92AF-Reverse2Tone.jpg‎ |thumb|none|400px|Reverse Two Tone Taurus PT92AF - 9mm]]
The arm has a reverse two tone gun like this one. I think this image can help. :)
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

==blanks==
I am super busy today, but I am going to look at one of our Hollywood blank and perhaps take a pic of how the cardboard wad is constructed and send it off. regards. MPM2008

== Deadwood ==

Hey GM, I just screencapped the first season of ''[[Deadwood]]''. Since you're a pro with that time period, I was wondering if you'd be able to give it a look at all if you have a chance just to check to see if I've been getting things right? Thanks! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 21:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

:Sorry about my late response, I've been busy between work and finishing the Deadwood page. It's all done now so I'll go through looking for errors and discrepancies, etc., etc. I appreciate your information added about the S&W Models 1 and 2, which I'll try to sort out once I can find good gun pictures for each to use. In response to grouping the SAAs together, I would do so (as I normally do) but since I took a large number of screencaps, I decided it would be at least a semi-logical way to split it up. The ''[[Joe Kidd]]'' page looks great of course; very interesting to see a C96 used in a Western (although it's a shame they used the typical Hollywood bottomless magazine!) Finally, I'm very impressed by "Gladys" your 1911! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 00:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

==Did someone ask for a Mossberg Pic?==
[[Image:Mossberg590Modified.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500C wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge]]
I could have sworn that someone, someplace requested that I photograph a Mossberg 590 shotgun (parkerized version) with a 500C wooden furniture for some movie '''but I can't remember now what it was for'''. Well, here it is! :) I actually bought the 500C wood to put on one of my 590s for the pic so I sure hope that a movie used this configuration somewhere :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Taken==
Go ahead, John. I was planning on going to get it, but a shitload of work just came my way. Happy hunting. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]

==Joe Kidd==
Hey John, Looking over the Joe Kidd page you built looks nice. I believe that the Colt 1877 Lightning you show in the capture is a Colt 1878 Double Action in 45 Long Colt. Also the Lightning photo you posted in the Lightning page for Kill Bill is a Cimarron Lightning Single Action. If thats the case does that go in the Single Action Army page like the Uberti's? -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:: Hey John, You are correct I would only add strange Uberti, Hartford and others that were used like the Hartford Model Sheriff and Pinkerton that we used in the Streets of Laredo. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Admin ==
Hey how many pages do you have to edit or make to become a admin? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Matrix: Revolutions ==
Hey, I didn't know whether to put this here or on the Matrix page, but I'll put it both places.
I'd kind of like to do M:R but I saw that you had it down on your to do list. It's yours if you want it, but you might have bigger stuff on your plate. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 05:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Sure, go ahead! --[[Special:Contributions/207.108.206.237|207.108.206.237]] 00:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==Calico Weapons page==
Well I've been busy, photographing every Calico Variant I can think of (or that is available to me). The Calicos are probably the least photographed weapon on the Internet and a lot of the web based information pages on the Calico are either wrong or lame. IMFDB will soon be the only place where a lot of these variants are seen (well at least via a cursory Google search). Tell me what you think of the page and if you see a Calico on a movie page that is NOT listed, I would appreciate the help! :) best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== RE: your guns ==
I'd never taken a look at your firearm collection before, but did today. You have some awesome stuff. Being a sucker for 1911's I really like Gladys, and the "Spanish Llama XV" guns. This is really not a post of any real value, but damn. Those are amazing.
--[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 01:34, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Eastwood's page ==

Would you have a problem if I began organizing some of the larger actor pages, such as Eastwood's, chronologically and by film to make them easier? I'd leave the same photos and everything but I just feel the pages should be in some sort of order. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 23:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Desert Eagle Love ==

Thanks, and yes, I know that it is a pretty impractical weapon (don't rub it in), but a few folks I know just like that weapon. I'm just a big fan of large caliber weapons, and I'm just one of those few who just, well you know. Anyways, I'm honored to have become a user on this site. P.S. Thanks for the pointer!
- [[User:500Magnum]]

==I owe you an apology on the Model 60==
Well, today I saw the owner of the Model 36 in satin nickel and he said 'that's not in satin nickel. I was talking about another gun. That's stainless', WTF? That's not what I remembered, but oh well. I popped it open and it is still marked Model 36, so I queried more about why it was marked Model 36-2 and he 'forgot' to mention that it was a factory missmark and thus was collectible. So my tirade about the Model 60 being a custom Model 36 seems a bit unnecessary. I showed him the IMFDB site and he basically concurred, there is nothing about that gun that makes it different from a Model 60 other than the weird factory model stamping which no one can see. I'm no S&W expert, but he set me straight and pointed out that I was wrong to complain about others naming it a 'model 60' when for all intents and purposes, it looks just like one. So I owe you an apology regarding the Model 36/Model 60. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:18, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== I like your pictures ==

I'd also like to comment on your pictures, and I think those are pretty good. You must have worked hard to get them.
- [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]
What I meant to say was your screencaps were good; excuse me. - [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]]

== New IMFDB? ==
This is hyothetical, say there were some movies I liked and I wanted just them on a site. So I make a website with let's say the matrix. now let's say I copied and pasted descriptions and copied pics from imfdb. Would I be able to do that if I say that I got them from Imfdb.org? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 22:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok That wasn't hypothetical, I'd already done it and wanted to make sure I could keep it. Don't worry. I deleted it. no more. I hope you don't sue me for everything i've got. (P.S. I'm only 10 so that won't work very well.) (P.S.S. Why won't you shoot the nambu?

== I am Legend ==

I got the last screenshots for I Am Legend up, and sorry for the really long delay. how does it look now?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and no problem, I'm glad those templates are gone too, I don't understand why Dragon would even use them when they looked bad, plus we never needed them anyway, I mean it's not that hard to make a simple phrase at the top of each page. About the forum, I signed up for it a few months ago, but I lost my password, I'll be sure to sign up for it again eventually since it appears to be really active. Once again, thanks.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 04:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Pineapple Express ==

Thanks for warning me about the widescreen bars. It took a while, but I removed all of the bars on each of the caps I saved. Tommorrow, I'll replace the ones I aleready posted, and continue my work on the page. Thanks again, and I'll be sure to keep this in mind for my future postings.
--[[User:Uzi870|Uzi870]] 12:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Comments in Articles ==
I have relocated several comments of yours from the body of the article to the discussion page. All signed comments should be posted in the discussion page. Otherwise, great work, keep it up. --[[User:DOHC Holiday|DOHC Holiday]] 20:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Vandals ==
What would you do if some one erased mail call. Like they made a account just to vandalise. and if i put sucks on Twilight, would it count as vandalism? P.S can you tell me when you're done with mail call? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 21:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't you think you got it when you're done with mail call, could you tell me that you're done on my talk page? (P.S. I've looked at my contributions and i've made 545 edits! sadly none of them are screencaps, so I can't be a admin yet :( and hey I made a spongbob page (for fun) and I can't beleve how fast it dissapeared! could you tell me who and what happened to it? and hey how old were you when you got made an admin and when you joined?) (P.S.S. The reason I didn't make any screencaps is that my dad won't show me the program that we have because he doesn't like guns and sorry I'm asking so many questions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Help with Identifying Guns ==
hi, I was talking to a friend and he said that he saw 2 unusual weapons on CSI, i was wondering if you could tell me whether or not they were real

the first was a gun that, somehow was able to shoot 2 rounds into the same wound whilst only clicking the trigger once. (sorry if its quite vague); and the other was a gun that was known on CSI:Miami as the "Vapouriser", in the show it turned a person into a mist of blood.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 22:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== thanks man ==

thanks for the help man, a said to my friend I thought that the "vapouriser" wasnt real, but he was adamant about it.--[[User:Taggartusmaximus|taggartusmaximus]] 14:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== "Gladys" ==
: That is one nice 1911 you have there.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Last Boy Scout Page==
I read on page ''The Last Boy Scout'' that you want to restore it. I had not noticed that your message and I have already prepared all the screencaps and some information (work at 50%). Can I prepare that page or want it you? Or you want my screencaps and you write the description because I spoke bad English? [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
::I think that your work will certainly be better than mine. I asked you just to know what was your job. If you're ready to upload good work! ^_^ - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Mail Call ==

I know you don't listen to me and use this to make the score bigger, but counting the REPEATS of weapons already establish. The Garand, the M16 repeats at least 3 times and you counted them into the score. That's just stupid. It's like if I take the 4 seasons of the Unit an counted 1 for every time I see a firearm, even though I have already established that we do see it from season 1. I put down M4s, but I don't do it 4 different times because this rifle has appeared in all the seasons, I just put images of how the rifle looks from each season under the M4 category. I label each section, handguns, SMGs, rifles, etc and put weapons under each regardless of the seasons they've appeared in. The format you've done for Mail Call makes it very messy and kind confusing and VERY unnecessarily LONG. I'm not dissing your efforts, I just think you over did it. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

==Commando Tranquilizer Pistol==
Hey John, I noticed on another blog the Bennett had a tranquilizer pistol pointed and Matrix. Do you have a screen capture on this. I would pull it but I don't have the movie. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
:Hey John, Thanks for getting that screen cap later it was just miss identified as a Crossman Air Pistol. I figured that I would fix that little error. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Last Boy Scout Page ==

I have some screencps of various weapons that you haven't published in the page. Can I add them or you're still working on the project? I do not want to ruin your work. If you want I can show them before posting. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]
:I asked you only because I thought you had finished to post all the images. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Deadliest Warrior ==

Can you ID the Colt Revolver on my [[Deadliest Warrior]] page? Thanks [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Deleted article ==

Why did you delete the article for Perfect Dark? Was there something wrong with it I should know about? [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 06:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Taps ==

Was limited in my resources when I first created the page. Thanks for not wiping out my contributions all together (which has happened before)and excellent work on the caps [[ User:Charon68|Charon68]]

==sorry==
I am sorry if you had issues with my categorizing the firearms lists of various pages. I only did so becaues I found it to be more organized on longer articles than the simple listing method used on shorter pages. I agree with you that since I did not write the original article I have no right to completely alter its format. I am sorry I did so and will cease making these changes in the future.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I just recieved your message thanking me for my cooperation. I had no idea that the one undoing all of my changes was the articles original author (I probably should have checked though) and had I been aware would have desisted immediatly. A simple message would have been enough to make me aware of my mistake, therefore the ultimatum included in your first message was both unnecessary and unappreciated. In the future if you could alert me to my mistakes without the use of threats I would be appreciative. I apologize if a sound angry at all (I'm not, nor do bear you any grudge) I was just slightly offended by the manner in which you told me stop changing page format.
:-Anonymous

== Help for new idiot... ==

Gunmaster45,

I saw your edits to a page (Thief) I created. I am very new, so forgive my indiscretions and errors in protocol. I was wondering if it would be possible to explain how to generate the table of contents present on each page. This is the boxed heading at the top of each page showing each gun and when clicked, takes you directly to each section (gun). I wasn't sure if posting this question here is proper, but I haven't found the help area that explains this action.

Thanks for your help in editing, and I have to say your work is excellent and I will strive to emulate your talent here on this site. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for the help, Gunmaster45! I appreciate your fast response. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 00:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

::Your suggestions for screencap editing are welcome. I will strive to adhere to the protocols in the future. I was using a poor, non-widescreen version for the screencaps. I have the WS DVD on order and will try to capture next week. If you decide to screencap similar scenes in the meantime, have at it! Thanks for the help. --[[User:Sidspappy|sidspappy]] 06:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

==Picture Assistance==
I have been contributing to this website for a long time and have written several articles and provided additions to many others. However, while I identify gun use in my pages and include pictures of the firearms (taken from other articles on this site) I have never been able to figure out how to upload pictures to this site from outside sources. Any instruction you can provide on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. My computer skills are mediocre to say the least, therefore I would be greatful if you could make the instructions as simple as possible.
:-Anonymous

==Thank You==
I followed your instructions on how to post images from outside sources and found them both easy to comprehend and effective. Thank you for showing me how to do this so that I can greatly improve my articles.
:-Anonymous

==Arggg, did a Frankgun Fix==
[[Image:Podbyrin9 2mmPistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FIXED in Photoshop Podbyrin 9.2mm pistol (merged a rounded Beretta 92S trigger guard onto the handgun to make it look more like the movie gun)....]]
I spoke to the original gun owner, and suggested a 'frankengun' fix in PS, and surprisingly, he said he 'thought it was cool'. He was intrigued to see what the pistol would look like with the 'correct trigger guard', so I took a photo of a Beretta 92SB and 'merged' the rounded trigger guard onto the Podbyrin. How does this look? I usually try to avoid doing a lot of photoshop on a gun pic, other than lightening shadows or darkening highlights or fixing scratches or (obscuring SNs). It's still not the screen used gun, but now it's closer to the real deal. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

==Matrix Screencap==
I noted on the Matrix discussion page that I was conducting a test and had realized that the existing screencaps are distorted, but the image is exactly the same as yours (the exact frame actually). Nothing on the page has changed, other than the fact that it was not uploaded by you. When people change pages, they're actually CHANGING the page, i.e. making the content different. I will only replace screenshots if they're distorted or crap. Yours were not crap, but I noticed that they seemed stretched upwards and I conducted a test to verify that. MPM2008

== Crossfire Trail ==
That would be great. It's a good western made in the older Hollywood style. It was directed by Simon Wincer who also directed [[Lonesome Dove]] I just bought a brand new Dell computer which will allow me to do screencaps, but right now I'm busy with household stuff and it's still sitting in it's box along with the 20" Hi-def screen --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Did a little research through my ''American Rifleman'' back-issues. Found some useful info about the guns used by [[Tom Selleck]] in his many westerns in the May 2002 issue.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Quigley Down Under ==

All it says is that there were three Shilo Sharps No. 3 rifles in 45-110 manufactured for him to use in the movie. It's my understanding that one of the rifles was donated to the NRA museum by Selleck.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
That's what I figured. Oh by the way I picked up a Luger a few weeks ago. Manufactured in 1916 at the Erfurt goverment arsenal. Shoots like a champ.Here is a so-so picture I took.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 04:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

There it is. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:Luger One.JPG|thumb|350px|none]]

== Cool Guns ==

I've long considered the Luger P08, Mauser C96 Broomhandle, and the Webley Mk VI revolver to be "cool" handguns. Oh sure there are better handguns out there and certainly more modern handguns, but that itn't the point. Since I was your age (really) I have wanted an example of those three handguns. I now own a Webley Mk VI and a Luger. Perhaps one of these days I'll get a Broomhandle. We'll see. Your dad has a nice Luger there by the way.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:11, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Your dad has the C96 carbine? Partner you absolutely have to get a photo of that sucker posted. Lucky S.O.B. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 05:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

==I see you replaced my pic==
And it wouldn't be so bad if your pic was better, but it's not. The contrast ratio is still 'muddy' and color saturation is still weaker. I thought you were more mature than this. I guess I was wrong. :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==my apologies==
Like usual, you have a good (and mature beyond your years) explanation for your actions. I apologize. I must keep remembering that you are not like 99% of the guys .. ON the internet ... most of whom are petty. I see so much pettiness on the net that I sometimes forget that this is not the case everyone. THANKS for the explanation. And again, I apologize :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==The Matrix Reloaded==

I see you're re-vamping the page. Well and done, and good work so far. But I beg of you...please try and limit yourself to 5 screencaps per gun? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:What I would recommend if you have shots that look cool but you've reached the limit is to post them on the discussion page for other people to look at. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:15, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Call of duty ==

Hey i found some pics that i could use to TOTALLY revamp COD2, COD4, COD5, and soon MW2. If you could Ok it that would be great. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 00:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey i hope you saw COD2 took me all night. P.S. i'm done with COD4 it's awesome, and tommorow i'll work on COD4 (DS), and COD5. P.S.S. great job on The Matrix Revolutions. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

==Honoring Actors who have passed away==
Since the news of David Carradine's death :( I was cruising around IMFDB and I noticed a nice touch to Charlton Heston's page. Someone put a photo of him, not a screenshot, in which it simply stated, "Charlton Heston: 1923 - 2008" I wanted to do something similar to Brandon Lee's page (1965-1993) :( , but I also thought that it would be nice (but completely optional) to put a DOB-DOD listing on actors who have passed away. I was going to do one for PhoenixEnt's page for Morris Ankrum the actor, I was going to put (1896-1964) but I figured I would check first. Also I thought it would be nice to know which of our famous actors have passed on. Thoughts anyone? I'm not going to do any sort of mass campaign to do so, but to know that no one else has objections would be nice. :) MPM2008

==Screencap assisstance==
I am a little confused on what it is necessary to obtain sceencaps. I am under the impression that specific software is required inorder to play movies in a manner so that screencaps be taken. If that is the case where can this software be obtained.
:-Anonymous

==Payback edit mistake==
I recently viewed the changes you made to the ''[[Payback]]'' article. While I agree completely with your eliminating the Smith & Wesson model 29 and 28 sections and replacing them with one section on the model 27, I noticed that you got rid of the section on the Beretta 92 Porter uses akimbo with his 27. This weapon was definitely present in the film therefore I am confused as to why you omitted it. I have not changed this myself for fear I might accidentally undo some addition or correction.
:-Anonymous

==Commentary==
I always love your commentary, GM. -protoAuthor

==Payback response==
I contacted you immediately after noticing the omission. I checked the article shortly after finishing my message and noticed the change but did not have time to negate my comment before you responded.
:-Anonymous

==Payback again==
I noticed that you eliminated the section on the Smith & Wesson model 38. I am not necessarily disputing your actions I just don't entirely understand it because it looked like the gun was used based on the screencaps that were included.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
Sorry
:-Anonymous

==New Template==
Concerning the new template used to categorize information on recent actor articles, I was wondering whether existing articles would be retroactively changed to fit the new format or if it will be required on future pages.
:-Anonymous

== Payback Page ==

I know that the pages I do are horrible and very bad and I have no objection if someone restores this works, I'm even glad of it, but it was nice to be informed before the repubblication that 8 hours of my work are destroyed. Good job anyway. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

:If you've forgotten to advice me it means that there is no problem. I misunderstood your action. It's all ok. - [[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]]

== Gran Torino ==

Hey GM45, Great work on Payback, it looks awesome. I also would like to know when you plan on screencapping [[Gran Torino]]? Because it's a good movie and I'm looking forward to seeing it's page completed. I'm not trying to rush you or anything, I'm just curious.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 19:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Birthday ==
Your birthday is on the 27th? Mine is on the 30th! It is quite funny how they are so close together.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

==Response==
I am sorry I made such amateur mistake, considering how similar the two guns are in most aspects I did not think that such a crucial difference existed. You were certainly in the right to remove my comment and I greatly appreciate your explaining the reason to me. On another subject, I was curious if you could get back to me on the Template question I posted 4 sections above.
:-Anonymous

==Template Comment==
Actually, I rather don't care for the new template. I looked at the text in the editing and saw that it is extremely complicated to create. In addition, while the new system presents more information in a more organized fashion, I find it less aesthetically pleasing that the older, simpler format. While I have no problem with the new template being used, I contacted you because I was hoping that contributors who prefer could still create articles using the older format.
:-Anonymous

==Template==
I understand that people will use the new template and have no problem with that. However, I am worried that it will be retroactivly applied to existing articles whether or not article's contributors approve.
:-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

::: Per the anonymous user's comment, (since I can't reply to him) The template only applies to ACTOR pages and Gun pages. No one user has ownership of an Actor page or gun page. Users have 'some' rights over MOVIE/TELEVISION/ANIME/VG pages that they have worked hard on, but that's only a courtesy. If something is horrendously wrong, like a new user creates a hideous page, they have no right to keep a stupid page (like the guy who put 'The Ring'' as a page, WTF?). MPM2008

== Another opinion on new template ==
I don't like it. And personally I don't think I'm going to use it on pages I start. Guess that's me just being an old asshole. sorry. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 15:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I know you're right. Just being muleheaded.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy early Birthday ==

Thanks GM, I was just wondering, Happy birthday in advance by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 01:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

==Payback yet again==
I noticed you removed all of my responses on the ''[[Payback]]'' page to your comments about mistakes the characters or filmmakers made. I realize that my comments made the text about the images rather lengthy and I apologize if they made you feel that I was being overly critical of you, but the reason I wrote them was because ''Payback'' is one of my favorite films and I felt the need to defend it when any justification could be made for its errors. I do not intend to replace my comments, however, deleting them while entirely disregarding the arguments they presented (my Walther-Bersa feature mistake excepted) seems a little discourteous. Once again I am sorry for giving you so much grief over this page the last couple of weeks, but as I stated this is one of my favorite films and I just wanted to see it done justice.
:-Anonymous

==Response==
I realize you enjoy pointing out the gun-related errors films make (I really do as well to be honest) and I have no issue with that whatever. In fact, the majority of your criticisms I left alone because I found them to be fully justified. The only comments I made were pertaining to mistakes I thought could justified such as missing at a close distance because the target is concealed or useing a poor grip because the size and location of a target make a hit guaranteed. I know some of the excuses have shaky foundations, but sense I enjoy the film so much I have been grasping at straws to vindicate it. I don't mind your removing them so much as I hope you at least considered what they said first. I will try to stop beating a dead horse and refrain from further commenting on this film, however I am not entirely sure I can restrain myself. ;)
:-Anonymous

==Standardize Template Layout==
Hi, As we are moving forward with the new layout on the Guns and Actors pages. We need to finalize a standard layout for the Template. We have been changing gun pages over and they do look better but everyone has their own style. Dates for instance some are on the right side some on the left, some have the most current movie at the top and some have the oldest. Then we have other issues like the headers are different from one poster to another. We need to fix these issues now before we have a ton of double work to do. Please give you feedback on pages completed like the [[M1911 pistol series]] and the [[Steyr AUG]] so we can have a standard on these pages. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

==Template==
To the mods: Though my own preference is strongly towards chronological order, I can accede to the wishes of the majority. I do like the format of Title First, before actor. Please note all, in the [[Steyr AUG]] page that the title, then character, then actor template, dovetails nicely into the other genres (television) but also Anime and Video games. Since there is no Character in some and no Actor in Anime or Videgame, I think this order maintains the same look from Film all the way down to VG. Thanks and please look at the page to see what I was referring to. Thanks again and I look forward to your input on this matter. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==Updated Template==
Thanks to everyone for the response. I have changed the first entry in the [[M1911#M1911|1911]] page to a blend of both mine, MPM and MT2008 which looks very nice right now. As to the other suggestions on lines for each entry I have posted samples at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]]. The third sample looks the best as in not quite as busy as the others. The colors can be changed to a lighter gray or blue if that need to be changed to make it a little more eye appealing. It looks like we are getting close to a standard on this pretty quick. As for added actors using the same weapon I have always included them on the listing instead of trying to place multiple actors on one entry that way it has less clutter. Thanks on your input on this. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

Hey John, I did notice you were using the template on the Actors pages it looks good with the info all cleaned up. I will note down about the boxed template and see what everyone else says. That's a good idea of your to clean up the Test page so everyone can use it for cut and paste. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

That does look good with the boxes on the [[Daniel Roebuck]] page. We'll have to see what the others say on this. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:Hey John, My newest entry I have posted at [[Talk:Test Template Page#Anime|Talk:Test Template Page]] you might like it also.- [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Weeds Desert Eagle ==

Are you sure that it is a .44 Magnum. I own one and it is what I originally had listed but reading up I found that it was a .357. I will double check.

== RE:Frackyou ==
I saw on the Mail Call discussion page and was wondering what was the Taunting User Name? Oh and P.S. I hate little F***ers who do that to. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== Twilight actors ==
WTF? Why do we have Actor pages for them didn't use any guns? Who even pu them up their? [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 13:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==Deleted Article Question==
As an administrator I was hoping you could answer a question I had regarding some deleted articles. I noticed recently that the Television pages for ''American Dad'', ''Family Guy'', and ''The Simpsons'' had all been deleted. This seemed logical as animated programs such as these may not provide detailed enough images of firearms to definitively say what weapons the images were supposed to represent making these pages rather out of place on this website. However I noticed that the article for ''[[King of the Hill]]'' still exists which has better animation quality, yet still seems to have some of the issues as other animated pages. In addition, there are many other articles mostly on older video games and some animated works that have these problems. Why is it some questionable articles are deleted while others remain? I am not complaining about the decisions made, I am just curious about the process that leads to an articles deletion.
:-Anonymous

== True Lies ==

Thanks, and sure. I don't know why the widescreen for that movie is like that, same thing happens to [[Armageddon]], and [[Broken Arrow]]. If you can get better screenshots, then sure, go for it.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Public Enemies ==

Fantastic new caps from ''[[Public Enemies]]''! I'm definitely going for the first day it comes out, I'm a huge Mann fan as well (since you said it, I figure it won't sound as bad if I did haha) and I did a report on Dillinger in 7th grade and I've been fascinated with all that since then. I sure hope my teachers weren't worried about me after that :-/ Anyway, especially good call identifying the .38 Super M1911A1 machine pistol that Dillinger used. I'm really glad Mann used that, as neither of the other Dillinger films I've seen had it! If only there was a way we could share duties capping that when it's out on DVD. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 04:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
:Haha, thanks I appreciate it! I'm sure I'll get a ton of good shots but you always add so much to the pages that as I'm putting them on, you'll have valuable input to help. I'll be watching both the 1945 and 1973 Dillinger movies the night before, I guess to try and make it my own kind of marathon? Had you seen either, I definitely recommend the '73 version especially with Warren Oates and the great John Milius directing it. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::One book that does a great job is the ''Public Enemies'' book written by Bryan Burroughs, it covers Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson, and the Barker-Karpis Gang. Really a very interesting book with a ton of stuff if you're looking to check some of the accuracy of the movie. I read the script actually (a few months ago so it'd still be pretty fresh) and I think they took a few liberties with ''who'' was involved with the gang and when they were captured/died/etc., but with things like that it might progress the story in their favor to have it play out a different way. I'm just glad that PE will be featuring a wide variety of guns as well. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::Also, happy birthday! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Vacancy ==

Thanks for all corrections to the page. I use to put the Screencaps in that way because first I showing good the main actor with the weapon and then the others. But I have no problem to applied the caps in a different way.

== CODWAW ==
Finally done! Tell me what you think. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 15:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

==Ad Question==
I noticed the wide variety of new advertisers on this site. I am slightly confused over some of the new sponsers. While many of the ads are not surprising, I have seen ads promoting cosmetics and high-heeled shoes. Are these people unaware of the demographic this site caters to or are the ads simply generated randomly.
:-Anonymous

== RE: New profile picture ==
Quite the badass GM! Don't let anybody tell you akimbo isn't cool. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, if Hugo Weaving is coming at you, it's a good idea to throw out as much lead as you can, eh?
::I'm just yankin' your chain man! ;) --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]] 07:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah, I didn't think of that. Anytime you get a bunch of young guys in a group, their IQ goes way down. I've found myself doing dumb things(thankfully not with firearms) while in groups. Good luck with that! --[[Special:Contributions/75.175.64.56|75.175.64.56]] 18:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Happy Birthday ==

Hey GM45, just wanted to say Happy Birthday, I hope you're enjoying it and got everything you wanted. Thanks for your work on AvP by the way.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Awesome work on [[Gran Torino]], it is a good movie. Awesome work on [[Freddy vs. Jason]] too.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
For your help on the Goldeneye/BDA/BDM thing.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 23:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::It's already been done-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I saw that, I edited the BDA pictures back to 600, but they got changed. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::oh yeah, i have a good sized moniter, but those jsut they appear too large.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 00:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Don't touch the SEALS page==
I have the screencaps that were left over from the first pass. I just haven't put them on yet. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==Tightrope==
Hey John, I am checking to see if you have the Eastwood movie Tightrope. Let me know as I my need a screencap off of it. Thanks - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 04:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I will PM you over on the forum for the answer. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: What did you think? ==

First off, I loved it. I feel like Mann really put a lot into this one (as well as the cast/crew, etc., giving credit where it's due of course) but I was incredibly impressed. I feel like they had done extensive research and used that to make the story so good. Like you said, the creative license with Nelson/Floyd/killings during Michigan City jailbreak/etc. may have been wrong but I feel like it did help to move the story forward for viewers not quite as knowledgable to the rest story as people like us ;)

Mann also proved that just because a movie takes place in the 1930s doesn't mean you only need to have 1911s and Thompsons. I noticed a bunch of the guns you had, such as the 1903A3s. I didn't get as good a look at the Winchesters, like the one used to wound Dillinger (I think the guy who wounded him in real life was John Shipley but I don't quite recall. I think the Sioux City bank robbery in the film was a mix of Dillinger's three 1934 bank robberies after his escape). I noticed a lot of revolvers, like the Colts you mentioned. I think I saw some with Smith & Wesson grips at one point but I can't remember when it was. I'm sure I'll go again to see it at some point this weekend so I'll be more eagle-eyed. Although I had especially noticed the shot of the Thompson during the Racine robbery and thought "that'd be GREAT for imfdb!" as well as a bunch of other shots. Amazing what this website does for the movie-watching experience haha

I was trying to do some shot-counting but it became difficult for me to sometimes discern who was shooting. But I agree; Bale looked steel-eyed when he was firing his 1911 at Nelson (also I noticed he kicked what looked like a nickel 1911 out of Pretty Boy Floyd's hand; I heard/read that the only nickel 1911s around during that era were the ones chambered in .38 Super. Do you know if this is true?)

Anyway I hope you enjoyed it, I know I certainly did. My friends were a bit confused by who the characters were exactly (which I could understand, Mann went right into the story!) but I was blown away! Another good (but long!) book to pick up if you have the time is a book called DILLINGER by William J. Helmer I believe. It goes very indepth into the story. The last couple summers my friends and I have been working on making our own ''Pretty Boy Floyd'' film but now it's gonna be pretty tough to avoid copying almost directly from PE! Hope I didn't ramble too much here - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 06:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

:Now that would be impressive! What all would you need to convert one to resemble, if not operate, like the one Dillinger had? Also I was just remembering the early scene in which Dillinger disassembled the Thompson - do you happen to recall if they showed Depp doing it himself or if they cut to just a set of hands? I'm just curious as to whether or not he had done it himself; Mann seems to make sure his actors are well trained with firearms (notably Cruise in ''[[Collateral]]'' of course). Also, I just found this interesting message board thread while browsing imdb - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152836/board/flat/141781630. Covers a bunch of the accuracy things we were talking about. - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 07:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Public Enemies==
Hey John, Lets see if I can fill in some of the gaps on this. I restore the weapons for Gibbons Ltd used by John Depp and weapons were also supplied by ISS.
* Johnny Depp's Colt 1911A1's were chambered for .45 ACP blanks they represented the real Dillinger's Colt 38 Supers. As of this time there are no 38 Super weapons or blanks in the industry.
* 1928A1 Thompsons the way we have them listed in everything is an error that I have yet figured out how to resolve. The weapons on the show are whats called a 1928 which is the same externally as a 1921 the difference is internal with a heavier actuator to reduce the cyclic rate of the weapon. The horizontal forends were offered on both 1921 and 1921 models of the Thompson. The 1928A1 is a World War II Thompson that had several shortcut in it to increase production during the war and were built by Savage and Auto Ordnance. The first short cut was no more commercial finish on the weapon then the fins were left of the barrel, The rear sight was changed to stamped L shape and not Cutt's comp was the final mod before production switch to the M1. Also if you notice when I have done pages with a Thompson in it the title is Colt 1921A or 1921 AC. The A is for a Thompson without a Cutt's compensator on it and AC is with a Cutt's. For the show there were Colt 1921's (Same weapon from Indy IV) with 1928 internals, 1928A1's refinished to look like a 1921 (Polished Blued finish) and there were some Thompson hybrids that were built by for the show.
*1903 Colt Pocket Hammer was sent to the production it is unknown if it was used or it was used and the scene was cut.
*Revolvers I know that both the Colt Detectives and Colt Official Police were shipped on the show. I will see if I can help out on the on Saturday when I see the film.
*38 Super Machine Pistol used in the movie was chambered in 9mm blank as 38 Super is not carried by the industry. The weapons was built by ISS for the film.
*BAR these were supplied by Gibbons Ltd and were modified in the Bonny & Clyde configuration by another gunsmith for Gibbons Ltd.

:Hope the answered some of your question by as all things it probably created more. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::John,

::I'm pretty sure that the 1903 Colt Pocket was the gun that Dillinger used for about the last third of the film, in place of the 1911 he had carried earlier. It's the gun he takes with him to the theater and then tries to draw before he gets killed by Purvis and the other agents. I have no idea how accurate this is in real life.

::If some of the guns (including the machine pistol) were supplied by ISS, I might be able to ask my contact at ISS if he can tell me more about that gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

:I believe Depp had the 1903 Colt Pocket Hammer in the Tucson hotel scene. It was brief as Depp sets it down on the table and you can see the tab for the mag catch. But would need to see it on DVD to be sure. Did see a whole was full of Colt Official Police in the Crown Point jail vault. Also the machine gun out side of Crown Point was a Colt Model 1928 Light Machine Gun. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

::Oops, sorry, I mis-read what you wrote. But I will e-mail ISS and ask. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

==Hard to kill==

::John,

::I got a question to ask. Do you have ''[[Hard to kill]]'' on DVD? If you do, say so. -[[User:speedfilmltd]]

== FC2 SVD ==

By the looks of things it's a bit of both; the forend has twin holes halfway up like the FPK, but it's shaped like the SVD's and the exposed part of the gas piston is smaller like the SVD's, too; other SVD features are things like the cheek pad, the kink in the fire mode switch as opposed to the AK-like switch on the FPK, and so on. Though the weirdest feature the FC2 SVD has is a duckbill three-point flash suppressor like it's an early M16. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

*Actually, I don't think humour in articles is really a bad thing even for a wiki: [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Wiki:Policies#Humor this] is a good summary of why. Indeed, I think the Payback article is how all our articles should be; describing how the weapons are shown as well as which ones they are is far more informative and fits in with this Wiki's overall principle of educating readers about firearms in movies. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== sound effects ==

Hey I was just wondering if you knew of a good website from which I could download some good firing sound effects for a movie I'm doing/editing. Preferably there would be sounds for a Thompson (with the higher ROF on the earlier models) and a .44-40 Winchester, as well as pistols. I had considered trying to get some sounds from Youtube but they didn't sound crisp enough when I added them to the film. No big deal, but I was just curious if you knew of anything. Thanks! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's actually a very good idea to borrow from movies like that, I wish I had thought of it! I might be able to get some crisp Thompson sound shots from ''Dillinger'' or ''Miller's Crossing''. (I'd use ''Public Enemies'' but unfortunately that's not out on DVD yet.) I've been trying to find some sort of BAR to use in mine but I'm afraid I might have to give up on that :-/ Good luck on yours as well - what's it about, if I may ask? - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 08:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re: The Shadow==
Hey John, Thanks for the nice words. The Shadow was my first film working in the Industry so it has a special place in my heart. Those custom built Grizzlies were the loudest pistol I have ever tested. I am going to call the owner of them next week and see if I can get a photo of them for IMFDB. I am uploading a special photo tomorrow I know you will like. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] 07:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:The Grizzlies in 45 Win Mag were loud with hearing protection on. The Thompsons used on the set started out as Colt 1921's when Tim Curry was firing them but when we switched to the bridge scene the flash did not appear on camera. The cyclic rate on a 1921 was to just fast enough to not show completely on film so we went to the Colt 1928 Thompson we had on hand and the Colt 1921 became a backup. Also on the bridge scene the actor that fired the Thompson tossed away a Smith & Wesson M&P Snub Nose. On the pistols for the head on shot I would have to check and see if I have the paperwork for those. - [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

== Re: Forrest Gump ==
Do it. You're much better than me.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== RE: Mask 1911 ==
This is true, the only real difference is those cocking serrations. To me it has more features common to the CGNM. Most noticeably is the sight rib, with is a part of the slide. I have yet to see this on any other colt variant with the exception of the AMT Hardballer. It is possible that it's a custom series 70, but it's also a possibility that it's an older custom GCNM.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
::Well I do not know for sure. I have yet to find information on the older (pre series -70). In the mean time, I think the best thing to do, would be to call it a Custom Match Grade Series '70 Colt, because everything on there lends credence to it being a Match grade firearm. I will look for older models though. What do you think? btw, is it just me or does the second picture look like a commander sized gun? The distance from muzzle to the tip of the frame seems too short for a standard. -[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

:Hey John, I agree with that it is not a Gold Cup National Match. Those sights look like a Millet copy of the Novak. The markings on the slide appears to be a Mark IV Series 70 Government Model. So I believe it's a Colt Mark IV Series 70 Government Model with Millet sights. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

:::Yeah after some reasearch this is not the NM as I had thought. That D*** sight rib threw me off, never seen another Colt with that, and the markings are a Series 70 (or later) and no series 70 NM had straight serrations. I somewhat think this was a Colt custom shop gun. Sorry, you were right man. But if you change it back please make note it has been customized to hell. Lol, for what was probably paid for the custom job, that gun;s owner probably could have just bought a NM-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]
:::: Oh that's nice, but don't tell me that, to me a Gold Cup is the epitome of a Colt, and I hate seeing their part's scattered. Granted mine has different grips and grip safety but I didn't do that to it. And Thanks.-[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]]

== SIG P220 page==

Hey, thanks for working on the SIG P220 series page. One thing, though...the way the format works is that we arrange the movies by date, from most recent to least recent. Also, ditch the parentheses around the year. Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 12:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

==Layout Format==
Hey John, Go ahead and try it out to see what everyone thinks. It can be changed back by changing a number. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]

==Talk page archives==
Hey man, I just thought I'd drop you and line and suggest that you seperate the older messages on your talk page into one or more archives. This is the way I do it:
* Create a '''sub-page''' to use as an archive. For example, at [[User_talk:Gunmaster45/Archive1]], and move the text you want to archive there.
* Add the following code to the top of your main talk page, to link to the archive or archives: <nowiki> <div align=right style="float:right;font-size:100%;">'''Archived talk:''' [[User talk:Gunmaster45/Archive1|1]], [[User talk:Gunmaster45/Archive2|2]] etc.</div> </nowiki>
* Adding a note at the top of the archive pointing out that it's not to be used for discussion, as well as a link back to the main talk page, is good idea as well.
Should make this a lot easier to read. :)--[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 18:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

::The size difference would be negligible, since most of it is only text, but; that's up to you.

::Also, I don't know what the established thing is here, but on every other wiki I've been to it's customary to reply to a message on your own talk page (where the conversation was started), doing it that way it makes it a lot easier to follow the conversation, because it's not spread across pages. --[[User:MattyDienhoff|MattyDienhoff]] 07:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
*On every Wiki I've been on it's the opposite, because it means the other person recieves the 'you have new messages' notification. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 08:05, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

==Glocks==

I asked about this on another forum a few months back. The answer is...there's no consensus. Some of the Glock fans I talked to told me that the Glock "Generations" refer to the styling only (meaning, any Glock that has rails and finger grooves is a 3rd Gen, while no rails and checked backstraps is 2nd Gen, etc.), while others told me that it does indeed refer to specific models (meaning, a Glock 17 with rails is a 3rd Gen, but a Glock 22 with the same style frame is only 2nd Gen). From what I gather, Glock themselves haven't really taken a specific position on the matter. Also, I have Gun Digest issues from 1999-2000 (when the rail frame/finger grooves models were introduced), and the advertisements for Glocks in them don't make any references to "3rd Generation" or "2nd Generation". So, from what I can tell, the "Generation" nomenclature was invented by fans, not by the company.

Long story short...I stopped caring how people described them, which is why I haven't reverted changes by other users, but I guess the first way of doing it (associating Generations with the styling only) is much easier and makes enough sense. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:03, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
==Crimson Rivers==
Thanks for redirecting the page for me-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
==Total agreement==
Yeah, I hate pocket pistols too. Due to the fact that I have what amount to bear paws, a full size M1911 would actually suit me better as a pocket gun. Also, the absence of an M4 and FAL in Rainbow Six:Vegas/ Vegas 2 pissed me off-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 06:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Modern Warfare 2 ==
I just heard that Modern Warfare 2 has been changed to Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 by activision. so could you change the name back, because I can't. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 18:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

Glad you like them! And yes, I'm excited to see the other guns, too. There were some pretty rare pieces used in the movie. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thinking of adding a brief forward to the Far Cry 2 article ==

As you might have noticed, it's almost finished and I'll have any remaining images tonight. I was thinking of adding a brief introduction it, just explaining firstly the game, then a subheading explaining how the inventory system works and the player actually ''gets'' weapons in the game, since our pages on movies tend to include a shot of how a character first acquires a weapon if there is one [say, Arnie talking to the gun store owner in ''Terminator'']. Seem ok? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Saw ==
I know this'll sound stupid but I'm really squemish and was wondering if any of the saw movies have screen caps. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 20:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== My crack at an incomplete template: ==

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Template:Incomplete

How's it look? Also, could I request you protect Far Cry 2 now? It's done barring me figuring out any way to jam the flare gun, which seems unlikely since it doesn't even have an idle animation. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 08:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

==I'm back briefly==
Just dealing with a bunch of Indies who want guns... And as you well know, sometimes the production has no idea what they want ... and when they want it. Ugh! But I'm slammed with work so if you send me any messages, I apologize for not responding in a timely manner. best regards
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:==

Sure! I can ask. Only thing is, does your Dad intend to register the pistol under the NFA? Because I'm pretty sure a pistol with a vertical grip is a Class III AOW. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:35, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Armorer page idea ==

Hey, I haven't checked the forums in awhile so I don't know if anyone's had this idea before, but I was wondering if we should set up a way of making pages for movie armorers or at least one page with the armorers and links to the movies they've done. I'm not sure how it would be set up, but I just wanted to consult with anyone else to see if this would be a good idea. I figured these guys do a ton of work and it'd be great to see who all's worked on what, etc. Again, if anyone's had this idea before just ignore this but I was just thinking it might be neat to honor these guys. Let me know what you think! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 05:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Found a capture program ==
Power DVD. It's pretty cool. Although the screens look a little dark at times. -protoAuthor

==RE: Face/Off==
Love the page - it turned out great. Caught a lot of guns that I missed when I cleaned it up some a while back (I tend to focus on the "big" guns). You had me for a minute with Eve and Jamie, though...for a second, I thought that your eyes were going bad. :P In somewhat unrelated news, do you plan on redoing the Miami Vice page? I know that's not your favorite movie, but that page is almost begging for some great screencaps...especially the SIG 552. I'd do it, but my software ain't up to snuff. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 01:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

==Pirates==
Feel free to turn it into a decent page. I'm just sick of all these pages made without an ounce of effort in them. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 06:50, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

==Armsel Striker page==
John,Someone really messed up the Armsel Stiker page and I'm going to try and fix it. Please protect the page as I don't want to have to fix things again. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]

==Smith & Wesson hammers==
I don't know whether or not you have the answer to this question but I thought I'd ask anyway. I was doing some reading recently and learned Colt's Positive Lock safety, separating the hammer from the firing pin to prevent accidental discharge, was developed fairly early in the twentieth century and applied to Colt revolvers, however, many Smith & Wesson revolvers continued to use the simple spiked hammer design for decades. I was currious if you knew when, if ever, S&W adopted a safer mechanism for their revolvers and if you had any details about the design.
:-Anonymous

[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the pin on the hammer of Porter's model 27.]]

==The grip on the Colt 38 Super==

Hey, my contact got back to me on the Colt 38 Super machine pistol from ''[[Public Enemies]]''. I asked him how the rail for the grip was attached to the frame, and he said this:

''"[T]he rail was semi permanently added with some small screws. The screws can be removed from the rail but where they anchored into the frame---those marks will still be there."''

Hope that answers the question. Also, check these out (make sure you click on them all the way, to see how big they are):

[[Image:PBreak-00055.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:PBreak-00056.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:PBreak-00061.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

I'm finally going to re-vamp ''[[Point Break]]'', either tonight or tomorrow. It'll be the first movie I've ever done using Blu-Ray. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== Mislabled team in Transformers ==

I just wanted to let you know you mislabled Cpt. Lennox(Josh Duhamel)'s team As "Ranger". They are not a "Ranger" team they are a Combat Applications Group or as most people know them, A Delta Force unit. I just wanted to let you know, thanks.

==Re:==

Hey, GM, that does indeed look better, and I would love to be able to do the same with the rest of my screencaps. What software do you use? Photoshop?

Unfortunately, one thing I'm starting to realize is that even if I do use Blu-Ray, I won't be able to take screencaps that look quite as good as the disc player is capable of generating. On my HDTV, ''[[Point Break]]'' on Blu-Ray looks very good, but on my laptop, it doesn't come out nearly as well. You may have noticed, for instance, that the resolution of these is only 1166x528 pixels even though the resolution on the disc is 1280x720. This is either due to the limits of VLC Media Player, or my laptop's graphics hardware, or maybe both. And it also may explain why the images aren't quite as sharp as they could be. So if I can edit them manually, I will gladly do so to get the most out of having Blu-Ray. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:06, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

:Hey, John, thanks for the offer. I will check out Paint Shop Pro when I have time. Right now, though, I actually haven't had much time to work on ''[[Point Break]]'', either last night or today. I'm probably not going to be doing any more work on this site because I'm celebrating my birthday tonight (which was yesterday), and I have to start working on a term paper tomorrow. But I think I can probably figure it out. I'll make sure to contact you if I have trouble achieving the same effect.

:Also, I tried playing ''[[Push]]'' in Blu Ray on my laptop, and much to my disappointment, it looks WAY worse when I use the screencap function on VLC Media Player (the screencaps come out semi-pixalated). I'm beginning to think it really is an issue with the player and that I'm going to need to find a better screencapping software. VLC just doesn't seem to handle Blu Ray very well. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:07, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

== Deletion request ==

Can you deleted [[Talk:"BFG"]]? I can't move the talk page there while it still exists, even if it's blank. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 05:32, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

== Blackout's minigun ==

I can't see the weapon you're referring to in the two screencaps, are you looking at his refueling probe? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:53, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's probably talking about the two gun positions on the sides that a Blackhawk tends to have. Also, out of curiousity; I wrote that extra section on Brawl because he's basically a giant prop, which I think fits in with the general idea of this Wiki to say what's a real weapon and what isn't. Just wondering why it's moved to the talk page? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:05, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::Looking at it, it ''does'' look like a Vulcan; the barrels look like they're tapering inwards towards the muzzle in both those shots, though the barrel clamps are a little off. Brawl's would probably be whatever Blackout's is. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:15, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
:Incidentally, what do you think of the BFG page now? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:31, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::I've edited the note on the BFR to clear that up a little; "BFR" is obviously a reference to the true meaning of the "BFG" acronym, even though the guns themselves aren't anything like the ''Doom'' one. I tried right-aligned images, but they either aren't lined up, or if they are add a lot of big empty spaces to the article. Also changed the tables, I like yours better. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 10:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

==MG42==
Did the Germans use MG42s in X-Men origins Wolverine? You removed MG42 section and I'm not sure if it's the same bunker in other shots. And are bootleg pics allowed? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]

==Neon Genesis Evangelion: Glock 17==

Thanks for pointing that out; I don't understand too well because it says that Glock 17 has "a safety" but then says it doesn't: please explain more clearly (not here, on my user talk page; I don't check in very frequently...or on the Evangelion page). My bad understanding after reading through this is that "the Glock 17 doesn't have an external safety switch, it's got an automatic safety on the trigger so it only fires if you pull the trigger properly; the English dub inserting a line where a character says "safety off" while looking at his glock makes no sense, because there IS no external safety-switch" - is that correct?--[[User:V|V]] 21:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

==Could you help me delete some unnecessary pictures?==
Some arse (aka my brother) got on my account while I was away from it temporarily to do something, and he managed to upload two "unnecessary" images before I got back and chastised him. Could you manage to get them off? If you look at my uploads, it should be obvious which ones shouldn't be there. Thanks! (Dang it forgot this!) -[[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 20:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:Don't worry John. Matthew took care of it. It was Two pictures oof some beautiful women that T-55's brother put up in his profile. The Women were only in their underwear. Nothing pornographic.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:56, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
==Another quote you might enjoy==
:I was talking to my friend last night and I had this to say:''' I held a Glock 22 yesterday (July 20th, 2009) and it felt EXACTLY like an airsoft gun'''. I thought it was funny enough to add to my profile-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 23:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
== Yard Work? ==
What the hell?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 01:59, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:Good. I though you were going to help build a house for 2 bucks a hour or something. Now i will leave you to work on Watchmen and sleep. Good night.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 02:08, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

==Ban==
A user suggested that we ban Lisle202 for a week to teach him a lesson. Is that good? Lisle202 posted bad comments on my talk page. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] ( - )
*Also Lisle202 posted this in [[Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]: "Was das? Das sieht nicht wie ein M1911A1!" I don't know what that language is and what he is saying. This means that Lisle202's grammer is poor as he can speak German and English is his first language. He probably learned from movies like the message posted on my talk. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]
:::Kenny99 needs to watch more WW2 movies ;) I barely speak German but even I know that's ''"What's that? That does not look like a M1911A1!"'' ;) regards MPM2008 (''Dieses ist NICHT eine deutschsprachige Web site. Es ist eine englische Sprachenweb site. '') ;)

*Crysis helped me figure out he's peaking German before the second comment. [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]]
*I'm going to use Translate to tell him to leave as this is english,not German site. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:36, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
*I'm sorry that this happened. Lisle202 probably doesn't understand what's a bootleg and posted it on X-Men. Then I have to stop him, and we all got into this mess. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:46, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

==Meine Antwort==

Ja, ich verstehe. Ich habe nie davon gehört einer Bootleg vor. - [[User:Lisle202|Lisle202]] 21:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
==The Hangover==
I wasn't finished with the page yet. I'll have to redo it in the morning-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah I was doing everything other than the pics and poster (I can't do that) when you deleted it-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:M'kay. There was a Mossberg 500 and a Jericho 941-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
: Hey do you think a Wilson Combat beavertail piece would fit in my High Standard? I'm tired if wearing gloves when I shoot-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 04:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

==User: Dillinger ==
Do you know this person? He/she keeps going and removing an a photo of the S&W Model 19 that I posted as a compariosn with the S&W Model 67 on ''[[Escape from New York]]''. I did that so folks could see the difference between the two models. It was a source of controversy over what Snake Plisken was using. What really irritates me is that Dillinger doesn't have a page so I can't even send him a message.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 17:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:52, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

==SIG P220-series==

I wouldn't use the term "standard" to describe models of P220-series guns, unless it's to distinguish them from a special model (i.e two-tone, nickel, railed, etc.) Also, what do you mean about the P226 in "Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay" being a "prop"? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
==Thanks for the advice==
:I bruised my hand up pretty bad the first time I shot the gun and one side of the grip safety is really sharp. It's probably because of the size of my hands. I would like to just thank you again for restoring The Hangover . My grandfather is sick with pneumonia and I was at the hospital with him all day and would not have had the time to redo the page.-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:What if the gun has a parkerised finish?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:Then I will just have to buy a beavertail for fear of screwing up my grip safety-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Halo article ==

As I just added to the talk page there, the Halo article doesn't actually represent any effort at all on to poster's part; it's copy-pasted from a page on Halopedia. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
*There's a few I could see arguments being made for [assault rifle as FN F2000 based, battle rifle the horrible, dishevelled spawn of an XM8 and a TAR-21] and if someone ever wrote a proper article with screenshots that explained some form of "this gun is based on this gun" reasoning, I'd argue we should keep it. That one, though, is worthless plagarism. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 09:36, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

==permission==
Can I post X-Men Origins pics from sample clips released by IMDB? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 17:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
*Ah nevermind. The clips at IMDB are from TV spots anyway and can be found online. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 19:26, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Vandal detected ==

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/201.83.221.229

Click the diff. I don't really think that was an improvement. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 05:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

==RE:==
I think you are right on Spider man 3. Flint did indeed use a Smith & Wesson. I am not going to do a Spider Man 2 page as it only shows a Beretta 92FS and a Mossberg 500. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 01:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

==SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series==

I hadn't looked at this page in a while, and then I looked at it today and it was incredibly well done. Excellent, excellent job, GM. It looks so much more professional now. Bravo! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 05:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

==Template Layout==
Hi Everyone, Now that I am back let's talk about the page layout template. On the forum we had one item brought up about the chronological order being reversed. Also another item was brought up about putting lies or boxing in the information. As admin it is up to us to police the site and make a decision that is agreed upon by the majority of admins and then implemented. Let's all go back to the [[Talk:Test Template Page]] and nail these last issues down. As we talk about it pages have been created and might need to be corrected so there is a standard look to all the gun and actor pages. Thanks for you input and help on the. - [[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]]

== Megan Fox Page ==

If an actor or actress has not used any weapons in any films or television yet, DO NOT make a page for them. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
== The Professional ==
I must have bought the stripped down version of Leon, my copy does not have the Roulette Scenes, Ringtrick, Drugdealer, Mathilda's paintball pistol, none of that.
So feel free to screencap it. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 03:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:Special deluxe edition huh, that must explain why I only paid like $8.00 for mine. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 03:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::I was surprised no-one has done Apocalypse Now yet. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 04:07, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Sure, go ahead. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 15:38, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== MSN ==
Do you have MSN John?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:37, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

==Running Scared, my page setup==
I think I got the story with S&W 36 done right . It goes through so much crap. Also thanks for setting up my page. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]]

== Year of the Dragon ==

Wait on that until Apocalypse Now is pretty much all done up.-[[User:Predator20|Predator20]]

== You're right ==
I never heard of the RPD before COD4. -[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Se7en and spoilers ==

Hey GM, I just wanted to say I thought you had a great idea for concealing the spoilers on the page for [[Se7en]]. I always hoped there was a way to explain how the gun was used so that people who had seen the film would understand but people who hadn't wouldn't have it ruined for them. Also great work with the page, as always, it's coming along very well and definitely needed your skills! Do you think we should start maybe going through some other films (when we have time) with major spoilers in the descriptions and changing them to fit the format for the descriptions on Se7en? [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 01:53, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks for the help ==

Just wanted to say thanks for helping with the [[RPD]]. I'd rather ask someone than put in "haven't a clue" when uploading stuff and hoping someone else will figure it out. Originally I frequented this site and eventually joined mainly for the Sci-Fi stuff, so I'm not always to good with older stuff. I checked through all the rifles but didn't think to check machine guns for this. -[[User:Sci Fi Gunner|Sci Fi Gunner]]

Sea Patrol

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Sci Fi Gunner: /* Little help please */ new section

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2009-07-29T18:35:49Z

Sci Fi Gunner: added laser drill gun