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Talk:Commando

2023-12-30T19:24:32Z

Rockwolf66: /* Ballistic Knife */ added information

=Miscellaneous=
==Life Support System I==
The knife used by Matrix is called the Life Support System I (or LS-1, for short) and was custom-made by late knife-maker Jack Crain. Apparently, Arnold saw one and liked it so much that he wanted it featured in the movie.
[[File:Commando-LS1-Knife.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Jack Crain Life Support System I custom survival knife]]

==Ballistic Knife==
Matrix uses what appears to be a Soviet ballistic knife on Arius's men.

It's a Jack Crain Ballistic knife. Funny enough this film is what got Ballistic Knives Banned in the US.

https://blademag.com/knife-history/the-most-illegal-knife-in-america

=Trivia=
==Goofs and Continuity Errors==
''Commando'' is well known for its blatant goofs and continuity errors. In addition to the ones already mentioned on the main page, here are some additional ones:
[[File:Commando 149.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Stuntmen are flung into the air with very poorly concealed launchers.]]
[[File:Commando 215.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The wire is visible on the ballistic knife.]]
[[File:Commando 222.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The soldiers seen here are clearly mannequins.]]

=Discussion=
Are the shots I added okay? I tried to keep it down on the shots MPM. I bet we now how the most indepth analysis of the armory on the net. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:Could i add some screencaps to this page?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

==Widescreen/Fullscreen==
I'm watching this on AMC now and realize I missed guns in the armory because they are only visible on full screen, and I only own the widescreen movie. For instance, I saw a Beretta AR-70 rifle. If someone with a keen eye has the full screen DVD, please feel free to upload. :) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== What does this mean? ==
The text below the screencap with Bennet and his Scoremaster:

"Apparently he was instructed to act enough for himself and Arnie."
:What does that mean?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
::Probably in reference to Vernon Wells' horrendous overacting of this scene. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 14:16, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I think you mean '''AWESOME''' overacting.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:30, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

You've got to like Bennett as a bad guy though. I mean, not only does this guy wear a M1940 military holster for 1911 style pistol, but he's wearing ''chain mail!'' Talk about old school! Plus they use maybe my favorite airplane of all time, the Grumman Goose. -[[User:harleyguy|harleyguy]]

Y'know, a man with a moustache, wearing chain mail and leather pants, doesn't really seem like a match for Arnold Schwarzenegger. Just my .02
-SasquatchJim.

He isn't actually wearing chain mail, it's a normal T-shirt with a pattern that looks like chain mail. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 21:12, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
:Wrong, Bennet really is wearing a WWII era chain mail "commando" vest. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 00:37, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Bennett is actually wearing cotton knit vest. It only appears as chain mail from a distance. If you watch the scene where he and his men hold Arnold down in that room, in close up shots you can see it is clearly not chain mail.

Rockwolf66 please check the facts first. The director himself has said numerous times that the shirt was not chain mail. Plus what this anon man above me has said confirms that it's not chain mail. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 05:38, 26 May 2011 (CDT)

== Ballistic Knife ==

At the beginning of Matrix's assault on Arius' estate he uses a ballistic knife to depatch a sentry, should'nt this be included on this page?--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 16:34, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

:It's not a firearm. Hence it shouldn't be here.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:17, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Grenades are not firearms, so technically they shouldn't be included either.... If your read the guidelines, as long as it is military equipment it can be included in a trivia section at the end of the page. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 20:56, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
::guys this sort of confusion is entirely our fault (i.e. the mods) for not putting up a guideline. I speak for all (well actually I don't) but I sincerely apologies to our members who have had to put up with mystical and sometimes nonsensical rules that haven't been posted yet. I am trying, and I was actually surprised, new members were actually READING the rules and applying them. I kinda feel guilty in getting pissed off at new guys for screwing up when it was us VETERAN members who screwed up in not formally listing rules and guidelines. I am completely humbled now and (when I get time) will strive to continue with the rules listing (all gleaned from months (has it been years yet?) of consensus from Mods and Veteran users about what should be on the rules listing. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:27, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:::My point about this particular weapon is in its name, BALLISTIC knife. Its not a ordinary knife as it fires out of a sheaf/handgrip so should be included as it is as relevant as a crossbow and would complete an excellent page.--[[User:The Mercenary|The Mercenary]] 16:34, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:I think it would be appropriate to include it. It is military weaponry/equipment and I am sure that people would be wondering what it is -heck I was when I first saw the movie. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 20:08, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

== Remington 870 ==

hey what model 870 is matrix using and what are the plate on the left side of the reciever and the brace above the slide for?dalemac37
:I believe it is a copy of the Tactical model designed for the U.S. Marine Corps back in the 1980s. And it's really hard to get nowadays. The extended tube has a clamp on the end. In the USMC version, the end clamp has a bayonet lug. What is difficult is that the shotgun changes (hence the comment about continuity breaks in the film). In some shots it has a rifle rear sight and in some shots the rifle sights are obviously gone. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:46, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Actually it is not intended to be a copy of the Remington 870 Mark I (the USMC designation of the shotgun '''MoviePropMaster2008''' describes). The "tube" under the barrel is actually a commercially sold laser sight designed specifically for the Remington 870 shotgun that had a proprietary "clamp". For the life of me I cannot remember who sold them (or for that matter, who manufactured them). But if someone has access to '''Guns & Ammo''' magazines from the mid to late-1984 period you will probably find an advertisement for one. Further in the bottom image in the section on the weapon you can see part of the power cable that was attached between the magazine tube and barrel. The cord snaked down the gun to the power supply which was stored inside a specifically-modified buttstock. Remember this was during the "Terminator" laser sight craze and laser sights were large and the power supplies bulky. --[[User:Sgtmonroe|Sgtmonroe]] 16:10, 30 July 2011 (CDT)

:I did some more digging on the laser sight. It is a Laser Products Corporation (later Surefire) laser sight. This is the same type laser sight used in [[Terminator, The|The Terminator]] and [[Wanted: Dead or Alive (1987)|Wanted: Dead Or Alive]]. The laser sight is easily distinguished by the proprietary LPC "clamp" as well as the actual sight's "bell-shaped" end. --[[User:Sgtmonroe|Sgtmonroe]] 14:40, 31 July 2011 (CDT)

I think this shotgun setup was also used in a film called "American Justice" that starred the guys from Simon & Simon as border patrol officers, one played a bad cop, one a good cop. They added a sound, like a tone, when the laser was on.--[[User:James3|James3]] 01:22, 11 September 2011 (CDT)

:[[Image:Lpcc.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The "bell-shaped" rear of the LPC laser sight (circled in red).]]
:[[Image:Lpc.jpg|thumb|none|450px|LPC laser sight (stainless) like the one from the film but instead mounted on a Ruger Mini-14. This Mini-14 version used a special "sleeve" that slid over the barrel to which the sight was clamped.]]

== MGC M16 replicas ==

I'm confused, what does it mean that the flash hiders are "upsidedown"? is it like 1 prong on top instead of 2?

==Poster==
Is that poster which is currently up for real? That tagline, "Let's party" looks like a bad joke made by someone --[[User:Jackbel|Jackbel]] 06:17, 20 July 2011 (CDT)

I guess you didn't see the ending of the film. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:02, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

It's a line from the film. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 07:35, 20 July 2011 (CDT)

:I'm not seeing that version of the poster on IMDB... [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:47, 20 July 2011 (CDT)
::There are five versions of that file. We can just revert to an earlier version. But yeah, this is the only version with "Let's Party" on it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 08:14, 20 July 2011 (CDT)

The one I uploaded was the final one-sheet for the film. One of the files was the dvd cover that was a reversed shot of Arnold and the other was of a lesser quality. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:02, 21 July 2011 (CDT)

== Desert Eagle ==

I think the Desert Eagle is a .44 magnum because it appears to have a fluted slide in one of the screen shots. I might be wrong though. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 15:11, 20 July 2011 (CDT)

: The fluted slides are only on the most recent Mark XIX model Deagles, which wouldn't be around 'til several years after this film's release. Indeed, the earliest Mark I Desert Eagle itself was practically brand-new when this film was shot. On a related-note, is it proper to call the Deagle in this film a 'Magnum Research Inc.' one? I was under the impression they didn't handle making the Desert Eagle until some time later (Like the 90s). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:12, 20 July 2011 (CDT)
::No it's correct to call it Magnum Research (even though you don't really have to). Most are made in Israel by IMI (now IWI). But they are always going to marked Magnum Research whether it was built in the US or Israel. Because they are the ones who designed it. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:30, 20 July 2011 (CDT)
::: Ah. Well that's fine. I generally don't like calling it specifically MRI or IMI though, just to avoid that. Whatever though. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:16, 20 July 2011 (CDT)
::::Yeah, you typically call it after the company that designed it rather than the manufacturer, and I think that's a good precident; here, that would be MR. As an example, we have the DSR-1 at DSR-precision GmbH DSR-1 rather than AMP Technical Services DSR-1 because AMP just marketed it. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 18:56, 20 July 2011 (CDT)

== Bianchi UM84 Holster ==

A question about the black Bianchi UM84 (the holster was not adopted by the US Government until 02 February 1988 and then given the designation Holster, Pistol, M12) holster Major General Kirby is carrying. Is this the first film appearance of this holster? Or does someone know of an earlier film with this type of holster in it? Bianchi applied for the patent on 26 September 1984 for the "Universal Military Holster" so the time frame would fit that this could possibly be the first film to have a UM84 in it. --[[User:Sgtmonroe|Sgtmonroe]] 16:45, 30 July 2011 (CDT)

== S&W ASP 9MM ==

i can tell that's not a S&W Model 39,it has the cutouts in the front and rear of the slide,the guttersnipe sight,and if you look closely,clear grips,this is a heavily modified S&W Model 39 chop-and-channel conversion that was done by a guy named Paris Theodore back in the 70's called the ASP.[[User:Ziess|Ziess]] 00:13, 4 February 2012 (CST)

== Few Edits ==

Did a little text editing and moved a couple of images around for clarity, hope you don't mind. [[User:The Killer|The Killer]]

== The awesome hidden armory and hilarious implausibility of it ==
So was the owner of this "sporting goods" store supposed to be some kind of black market arms dealer or something? I also find it strange that the two cops didn't seem at all phased by the fact that the room had enough weapons, ammunition, explosives, and not to mention ROCKET LAUNCHERS to single handedly take over most of South America. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:22, 11 July 2012 (CDT)
:Just your average gun store, right?--[[User:Leigh Burne|Leigh Burne]] 11:24, 11 July 2012 (CDT)
::I always thought of it as the fact that everything in the film is over the top, the action scenes, the villains, the reality (or lack of) is all ramped up and shoved right over the top. That scene is just another part of how over the top it is. The gun store sequence is one of my favourites in the film along with the "gear up" scene. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)
:::Exactly. You didn't think this film was supposed to make sense, did you? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:01, 11 July 2012 (CDT)
::::It's dumb fun back when it was fun. Something the action films that emulate Commando lack are the really key ingrediants like if you're going to go over the top with it, for it to work everything needs to be over the top, including the violence. That's the problem with the dumb fun popcorn action movies of today, they're all PG13 suckfests. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 19:05, 11 July 2012 (CDT)

== Beretta 92SB ==

Am I the only one who thinks in the first screencap there is something a little off with that grip. For starters it looks quite small to be an SB grip and it seems to be missing screws and the Beretta logo. They just seem to be holes where they should be. Could it be some sort of rubber prop? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 13:52, 11 July 2012 (CDT)

== Remake ==

Apparently a "more realistic" remake is in the works starring Sam Worthington (Avatar) and written and directed by David Ayer, (Training Day and SWAT). While I'm sure it'll be entertaining, something just seems wrong with making a realistic version of arguably one of the most consistently and intentionally over the top action movies of all time. I hope they at least keep the neverending belt of 7.62.
:It will be shit.--[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:08, 20 July 2012 (CDT)
::In all likelihood, it probably will. But the same could have been said about ''[[The Expendables]]'' and ''[[Rambo]]'', both 80s style OTT action flicks that took the new millennium and threw it out the window. I'll admit I'm a little bit unsure at the notion of a "realistic" approach (then again, we all know how terribly unrealistic Hollywood's idea of "realistic" really is), but I'm at least going to give it a chance and ''watch'' it before I decide on its quality rather than predetermining it based on absolutely nothing. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:34, 5 August 2013 (EDT)

==Addl==
[[Image:CommandoHK91.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Matrix chambers his HK91 after retrieving it from the tool shed.]]
[[Image:Commando DesertEagle 03Det.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Double screen of the Desert Eagle.]]
[[Image:Commando AKMdetail.jpg|thumb|none|700px|First seen when surrounded at the tool shed, some soldiers have AKMs, later the AKMs are held by the numerous soldiers who die '''acrobatic''' ballet style deaths at the hands of Matrix.]]
[[Image:Commando M78 01DetailsA.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Closeup details of the Valmet M78/83 when Matrix is preparing to attack.‎]]
[[Image:Commando M60E3 01detail.jpg|thumb|none|700px|M60E3 first used by Arius' men when trying to kill Matrix in the tool shed, then taken by Matrix and used against the soldiers.]]
[[Image:Commando CAR-15Adetail.jpg‎ |thumb|none|700px|Kirby's men have Commercial CAR-15 rifles.]]
[[Image:Commando Shotgun 05detail.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Though his shotgun is supposed to be a Remington 870, it has been heavily customized and unfortunately changes slightly from shot to shot. Note the LPC laser sight.]]
[[Image:Commando M16A1Detail.jpg|thumb|none|700px|'''Continuity Error''': Matrix fires an '''M16A1''' rifle in one shot, and then the gun changes to an '''M16 (SP1)''' rifle in the next shot!]]
[[Image:Commando ClaymoreDetail.jpg|thumb|none|700px|The Mines used by Matrix, note that the raised letters "M18 A1" are gone (ground off) as are the painted lot numbers (a feature of real Claymores). A faux radio controller and tiny light bulb is visible 'glued' into the side of the M18A1 which Matrix uses to radio detonate a series of these mines.]]

==Matrix's Knife==
The knife used by Matrix is called the Life Support System I (or LS-1, for short) and was custom-made by late knife-maker Jack Crain. Apparently, Arnold saw one and liked it so much that he wanted it featured in the movie. I have a good picture of the knife itself (or at least a replica) that can be used on the page if somebody can get a couple high-def pics of it from the movie. Preferred would be A) one of him picking it up in the surplus store and B) one of him holding it while goading Bennett into a knife fight. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:58, 29 July 2020 (EDT)

==Extended Cut==
There's apparently an extended cut of the movie on Amazon, but it's not included with Prime and I can't buy or rent it since the account I'm using is my sister's. Has anyone seen this version? If so, how does it differ from the version (I assume theatrical) that this page was screencapped using? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 14:10, 6 September 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Den of Thieves

2019-11-24T21:58:17Z

Rockwolf66: Not a P226

==Please help ID==
Please help ID these weapons. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 03:31, 26 January 2018 (EST)

[[File:Den 143.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
*Its [[Walther P99]]
[[File:Den 113.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:Den 118.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
*[[FN FNX-45]]

==Reflex Sight with Pistol==
Big Nick used pistol is P226 LEGION RX FULL-SIZE? [https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p226-legion-rx-full-size.html]-[[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 02:04, 10 February 2018 (EST)
[[File:Den 148.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Det. "Big Nick" Flanagan ([[Gerard Butler]]) fires the pistol while on a shooting range.]]

Interesting that this character has a red dot on his sidearm but doesn't have one on his SCAR. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 14:30, 13 March 2018 (EDT)

==Not a P226==

In having watched the film the CAA Tactical RONI is fired full auto. I have yet to hear of a Full auto SIG P226. it is most likely a Select fire Glock variant.
[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 16:58, 24 November 2019 (EST)

User talk:Excalibur01

2019-09-11T02:44:24Z

Rockwolf66: /* Stalker on Quora */

== Infoboxes ==

Hey. So first off, a disclaimer, I am posting the following message for each of the Admins so don't think I'm spamming. Just want to get input from all of you. I have been working on a number of infoboxes for different pages ([[Template:Infobox Movie]], [[Template:Infobox TV]], [[Template:Infobox Video Game]]). I have already gotten some help from [[Bunni]] who installed an additional add-on to facilitate the templates. I would love to get some feedback from you (and other admins) regarding these. Do you like the format? Are there things you would like changed? Should additional information be added? The nice thing is that with the add-on that [[Bunni]] installed, you do not have to provide all the information for the infobox. Any variables left blank will simply not be printed.

Finally, I would like to see how you feel about my adding these to pages. I have gotten positive feedback from a number of users (including at least 3 admins) but before I add this to more than a dozen or so pages (which I have done for testing purposes) I want to really get full permission. I know that sweeping changes are a '''MAJOR''' no-no without full admin approval. Check out the thread in the forum (http://forum.imfdb.org/showthread.php?t=1942). I look forward to hearing your feedback! :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:15, 9 May 2012 (CDT)

== Resident Evil 6 ==

Hello, good sir, I hope you don't mind me posting this here, if so please take every right to delete it. But, I have come to plead for your help and expertise. I have added some new discussion to Leon's handgun(s) in Resident Evil 6, and I am asking for your opinion, and if you agree with the evidence I have provided, that you could back me up. If you think I'm an idiot I will admit defeat haha I'm only asking for your expertise. Thanks, again. --[[User talk:TheREwiz|TheREwiz]]

== Resident Evil Apocalypse ==

I was wondering if I could have your permission to work on Resident Evil Apocalypse you know make the weapons all sorted out like it is on the resident evil extinction page? If not then I wont bother you again.

Thank you it will be great.

== Uploading image ==

i need some help the gun i want to upload doesn't appear in the image's place how do i fix that [[User:Balin21]]

== The Walking Dead video game ==

Have you heard about a walking dead video game by telltale games i think it might have alot of gun in it? [[User:Balin21]]

== Daryl's New Crossbow ==

If we identify what type of crossbow it is can we put it on the walking dead season 3 page?--[[User:Balin21|Balin21]] ([[User talk:Balin21|talk]]) 15:04, 5 March 2013 (EST)

== Anime ==

You will have to talk to [[Bunni]] about that. Best way to reach him is to shoot him an [[Special:EmailUser/Bunni|email]]. I know we are looking for more people to contribute! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ''IMFDB Chief of Operations'' ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 22:02, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

==Trigun page==
Took long enough, but [[Trigun|I think I'm done]]. I suppose I should do the movie too at some point.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] ([[User talk:PistolJunkie|talk]]) 01:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

== Appleseed Alpha ==

I PMed you on the forum. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 22:52, 14 July 2014 (EDT)

==''Red Dawn''==

Sorry for being an asshole on that page. I may have gotten a bit carried away.--[[User:Godzillafan93|That's the Way It's Done]] ([[User talk:Godzillafan93|talk]]) 17:43, 25 February 2015 (EST)

== Waco ==

Are the screenshots you put up from just the trailer and are what episodes are these from? You didn't put any episode numbers in your screenshots and captions. Please add episode numbers to your future screenshots and please identify in the captions what episodes the current screenshots are from. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 03:26, 2 February 2018 (EST)

== Stalker on Quora ==
Looks like you have a Stalker on Quora. I'm not sure what their name was but they have a big axe to grind against you. https://www.quora.com/What-are-you-banned-from-Why/answer/Steven-McReynolds-1

[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 22:59, 9 September 2019 (EDT)

He's overestimating his contribution to at least the first two Telltale Walking Dead games. The majority contributor was ''me'' on those and I painstakingly screencapped many of the images from YouTube playthroughs (hence the varying quality) while others I got from the TWD Wiki (which I did with their permission, mind you). Not saying others didn't contribute as well, but "almost entirely" is a bit of a stretch. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 00:13, 10 September 2019 (EDT)

I figured that the guy is a liar. I mean people have been kicked from here for being racist. I have a reasonable suspicion that the former user has a name here related to his Avatar on Quoara. The guy is not in fact banned but he was probably warned that his behavior was out of line. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 02:10, 10 September 2019 (EDT)

Appatently, what ultimately prompted him to write this is the fact that I indirectly mentioned him in the BF5 talk page, even though I was talking more about the situation that happened back then, not because it was specifically him. I mean, I barely had any interaction with him, and it doesn't matter which user it was, I would have made the same comment anyway. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 02:44, 10 September 2019 (EDT)

Wow, talk about narcissistic much. Anyway, I'm pretty sure this guy is [[User talk:Godzillafan93|Godzillafan93]], since he's the one that seems to have contributed most after me on the Walking Dead pages and his talk page has the exchange with Tim regarding "Jap" on it that this Steven McReynolds mentions. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 05:34, 10 September 2019 (EDT)

I wouldn't call this guy a stalker. More like some disgruntled dude with an axe to grind. "not racist enough". Guess he doesn't know what race we all are. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 20:56, 10 September 2019 (EDT)

I think everyone who's been monitoring this long enough knows I actually haven't made any edits or messages in a long ass time. WACO was the last page I made. I really don't go out of my way to correct users unless to make a direct conversation. I really don't know what he's referring to about me correcting his racist comments. Though I am flattered that he'd address me as "Marine Corps" [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 21:00, 10 September 2019 (EDT)

Ok, so apparently if someone calls a female character a mary sue, one of us is going to accuse us of being a misogynist? Are we the thought police now? I seriously don't believe Eviltim is like that. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 21:03, 10 September 2019 (EDT)

: Lol this guy, huh? For the record, the chunk of his rant about his old 'Mary Sue' remark was me, so I apologize to Tim and/or you for getting smeared with that. ;P And I only merely thought it was worth mentioning because if he wants to waste time grandstanding on social and cultural etiquette maybe he could start by practicing what he preaches. A lesson I suppose he's learned now - "How pathetic does your life have to be for you to waste that much time on something this trivial?" Indeed. XD But whatever, I guess it's his life and all. Glad he's still using the site as a resource though - After all I always thought that's really what we're here for. ;) [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 21:29, 10 September 2019 (EDT)
::To be fair, this site isn't the most well maintained. I haven't head from Bunni in forever. And also the Latest Updates page is still broken [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 22:26, 10 September 2019 (EDT)
:::I know I'm not around much as I have a life and don't have time to do lots of screencaps or to get the lattest in movies. I still check the site from time to time but I just don't have the time to do stuff here. I posted the link because the guy is spewing a bunch of BS and he singled out Excaliber. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 22:44, 10 September 2019 (EDT)

User talk:Excalibur01

2019-09-10T06:10:11Z

Rockwolf66: /* Stalker on Quara */

User talk:Excalibur01

2019-09-10T02:59:50Z

Rockwolf66: Heads up about someone with a grudge.

Elias Koteas

2019-02-25T21:39:22Z

Rockwolf66: /* Film */ minor correction to the list as to put different firearms in the same film together.

[[Image:TRLMkIIgrenade-1.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Elias Koteas as Capt. Staros in ''[[Thin Red Line, The|The Thin Red Line]]'' (1998).]]
[[File:House 03.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Elias Koteas with a [[Glock 21]] as "Jack Moriarty" in ''[[House M.D.]]''.]]
[[File:ChicagoPD S01E06(AR15-marksman-alvin).jpg|thumb|right|400px|Elias Koteas with an M4A1 as Det. Alvin Olinsky in ''[[Chicago P.D. - Season 1]]''.]]

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| [[Walther PPK]] || Wally Bosworth || ''[[Desperate Hours]]'' || || 1990
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| [[Tanegashima]] || Casey Jones/Whit || ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III]]'' || || 1993
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| [[Colt Detective Special]] || Thomas Daggett || ''[[The Prophecy]]'' || || 1995
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| [[M1 Carbine]] || Capt. Staros || ''[[Thin Red Line, The|The Thin Red Line]]'' || || 1998
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| [[M1911A1]] || Capt. Staros || ''[[Thin Red Line, The|The Thin Red Line]]'' || holstered || 1998
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| [[Mk 2 hand grenade|MK II Hand Grenade]] || Capt. Staros || ''[[Thin Red Line, The|The Thin Red Line]]'' || || 1998
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| [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] || John Townsend || ''[[Lost Souls]]'' || || 2000
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| [[Beretta 92FS]] || CIA Agent Brandt || ''[[Collateral Damage]]'' || || 2002
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| [[Remington 870]] || Jack Payne || ''[[Shooter]]'' || Express sawed-off || 2007
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| [[SIG-Sauer P226]] || Jack Payne || ''[[Shooter]]'' || suppressed || 2007
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| [[Smith & Wesson Model 66]] || Jonas || ''[[Skinwalkers]]'' || || 2007
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| [[Glock 17]] || Jonas || ''[[Skinwalkers]]'' || || 2007
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| [[M1911A1]] || 'Policeman' || ''[[Let Me In]]'' || || 2010
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| [[Bruni 92]] || Sergei Katsov || ''[[A Very Harold & Kumar 3D Christmas]]'' || chrome || 2011
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| [[M4A1]] || Sergei Katsov || ''[[A Very Harold & Kumar 3D Christmas]]'' || || 2011
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| [[Glock 21]] || Jack Moriarty|| ''[[House M.D.]]'' ||"No Reason" (S2E23) ||2006
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| [[M1911A1]] || Joe || ''[[CSI: NY - Season 4]]'' || "Hostage" (S4E21)|| 2008
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| [[Inglis Hi-Power]] || Colonel Xavier Marks || ''[[Combat Hospital]]'' || ||2011
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| [[M16 rifle series#Colt Canada C8 Carbine|C8A3 Carbine]] ||Colonel Xavier Marks || ''[[Combat Hospital]]'' || Mocked up from airsoft gun ||2011
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| [[Glock 17]] || Detective Alvin Olinsky || ''[[Chicago P.D.]]'' || ||2014-
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| [[M4A1]] || Detective Alvin Olinsky || ''[[Chicago P.D.]]'' || ||2014-
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| [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] || Detective Alvin Olinsky || ''[[Chicago P.D.]]'' || ||2014-
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Talk:Narcos - Season 1

2016-08-10T00:46:08Z

Rockwolf66: Noticed that some of the M4s are Airsofr.

== Steve's revolver ==
[[File:Steve Aiming Revolver.jpg|800px|thumb|none|Steve threatening the truck driver. S01E09]]
The revolver Steve is using during the show doesn't quite look like a Colt Diamondback Snub-Nose but something else.
:An [[EKOL Viper]] with a 2.5" barrel? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 16:56, 9 September 2015 (EDT)
== Airsoft M4 ==
Anyone else notice that at least one "M4" is actually Airsoft? I know that scoped and supressed M4 on this page has an AEG magazine in place and the muzzle flash is CGI.
[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 20:46, 9 August 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Deadpool (2016)

2016-05-20T06:22:45Z

Rockwolf66: /* Galil SAR */

==Please help ID==
[[File:Deadpool_55.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
:It's a TiSAS Zigana F. [[File:Zigana F chrome.jpg|thumb|350px|none|TiSAS Zigana F, chrome finish - 9x19mm]] [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 03:07, 12 May 2016 (EDT)

==First images from set==
While not good enough to start the page properly, a few photos from set have been leaked, showing Deadpool dual wielding Desert Eagles, [http://i.imgur.com/0AdhFIT.jpg| this] is probably the best one.
--[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 21:58, 06 April 2015 (GMT)
:What's the source of this image? Is it legit? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:50, 6 April 2015 (EDT)
::I don't think so, a lot of the other images look like they where taken by onlookers, this is the closest to 'official' looking of the bunch, got a few other I can post if you're interested, but they are all kinda similar. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 23:04, 06 April 2015 (GMT)
:::Can't have those here, sorry. Only authorized BTS images are allowed. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:12, 6 April 2015 (EDT)
::::My bad, thought that only went for the main pages not the talk page, changed it so it links to an outside source. Uploaded the others as well [http://i.imgur.com/kCOaPhs.jpg| here] and [http://i.imgur.com/aTFFovP.jpg| here] --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 23:30, 06 April 2015 (GMT)
:::::If Deadpool never takes off his mask (and I'm not sure he ever does), then wouldn't this basically just be a voice acting gig for Ryan Reynolds? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:44, 6 April 2015 (EDT)
::::::Deadpool does take off his mask in the comics quite frequently, but his face is horribly disfigured. I would imagine they're going to do a lot of make-up work so he can remove the mask at some point. Who knows if it will even be Ryan Reynolds in the makeup if they do that. [[User:DeadpoolDeadcool|DeadpoolDeadcool]] ([[User talk:DeadpoolDeadcool|talk]]) 23:13, 6 April 2015 (EDT)
:::::::He will be removing his mask in the movie, just like in the comic, and it will be Ryan Reynolds, both in the costume (except for stunt work), and out as you can see [http://i.imgur.com/zQylISk.jpg| here] looks like they're not gonna make him quite as disfigured as he is in the comics, although they could always add more via CGI or it might just be that this photo was taken from real far away. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 12:30, 07 April 2015 (GMT)

[[Image:Deadpool-DesertEagle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Deadpool admires his destruction with his Desert Eagles.]]

==Just seen the movie==
Just got back from watching the movie and the weapons I noticed that aren't listed on the page are;
A 1911 (looked similar to a Para-Ordnance LDA) 
Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket Nickel with pearl grips 
What looks like a M249 SAW Paratrooper 
UTAS UTS-15 
A Glock (I think 19) 
An M72 LAW 
There was a scene with Wade loading up a bag where you see a whole bunch of weapons, but all are only for a second and where hard to catch. Same with a scene where a bunch of people draw weapons in a bar. --[[User:RedRobinAlpha|RedRobinAlpha]] ([[User talk:RedRobinAlpha|talk]]) 00:03, 14 February 2016 (GMT)
:I caught what looked like a AUG in the bag. --[[User:SeanWolf|SeanWolf]] ([[User talk:SeanWolf|talk]]) 00:07, 14 February 2016 (EST)

== Unspecified AK ==
[[File:Deadpool 12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
Even if anyone sees this is AK, it is clear. However, is there the person who can identify a detailed type ? I think the 5.56 or 5.45mm AK rifle with East-German type folding stock. Does this AK wonder Made Romania ? --[[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 15:16, 11 May 2016 (JST)
:From the film, it looked like a Galil when it was posted on a wall. [[User:Inceptor57|Inceptor57]] ([[User talk:Inceptor57|talk]]) 02:18, 11 May 2016 (EDT)
::From what I can see it's a Norinco Type 84S fitted with an AKS-74 folding stock and modern black polymer furniture. Worryingly, it seems its barrel is cut down (along with the front sight) and the whole front of the gas system is gone! [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 03:01, 11 May 2016 (EDT)

There are two different AKs in this section. The one leaning in the corner of the bathroom appears to be a Galil SAR. However, it has a AK style mag which is incorrect for a SAR as this isn't available in 7.62x39mm. I believe that this indicates that the gun is an airsoft, as these have an AK type magazine well so that you can use these magazine rather than a proprietary Galil one. There was another movie or show that did the same for a non firing Galil recently but I can't remember what it was off of the top of my head. As for the one in the bag, I can't quite tell what is going on with the front, but the stock isn't off of an AKS-74. These fold to the left side of the gun, the release button comes out of the left side of the receiver and the hinge is different. A lot of folding stocks for AKs have the stock mount protrude some distance past the rear of the receiver (the mechanism to lock the stock has to be somewhere) but this one doesn't seem to which should narrow it down, but I can't come up with a match. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 15:00, 12 May 2016 (EDT)
:Think I found it, I believe that it is a Norinco Type 84S-2 (backed up by the magazine. This type of stock folds to the right, and if you [http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p525/TypeFiftySixer/33E015F7-4F28-4246-B59B-AF9EEDEABCFC-1519-0000014302A2EFDE.jpg compare the folding mechanism] it looks like a match. This is a relatively uncommon gun that nobody makes a replica of, so the sawing the front off is even weirder.--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 15:36, 12 May 2016 (EDT)
::I see it now, I feel dumb for forgetting the AKS-74 stock folds to the left... [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 17:22, 12 May 2016 (EDT)

:::Yes, this is a Type 84-2 (movie was filmed in British Columbia, and they use Type 84s very often). And the weapon is not sawed off. You are seeing Deadpool's elbow/sleeve blocking the front of the gun. I don't think anyone would "saw off" a rifle in such a weird way, even if one believes that the armorer went to the trouble of trying to shorten the gun so that it could fit in the bag. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 21:56, 12 May 2016 (EDT)
::::Ah I see now, I guess I'm a little off the ball. >_< [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 22:14, 12 May 2016 (EDT)

== Wade's 1911 ==

I'm 99% certain that his 1911 has a double stack magazine, which makes me think it's a Para. [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] ([[User talk:Bristow8411|talk]]) 15:27, 11 May 2016 (EDT)

[[File:Deadpool_28.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

:I believe that it is specifically an early model P14.45 Limited with the vertical slide serrations, like this one:[[File:Para P14 Limited.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]Incidentally, the clearest image that show that it is a double stack is actually [[media:Deadpool WadePistol (4).jpg|this one]] as it shows the frame step ahead of the pistol grip which is the tell tale sign of a double stack design. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:09, 11 May 2016 (EDT)

==Additional==
[[Image:Deadpool-Trailer-DesertEagle-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In his own version of Christian Greys red room, Deadpool reloads his Desert Eagle.]]

[[File:Deadpool-Trailer-AR-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The same Operator making his way closer to Deadpools position.]]

== Desert Eagle safeties ==

I'm not 100%, but I do not think the hook style safeties indicates that these are an earlier model, but instead that it is an IWI made gun (backed up by the grips) rather than a Magnum Research. I believe that most of Deadpool was shot in Canada so they would have easier access to actually Israeli imported guns. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 15:17, 12 May 2016 (EDT)
:Whoever did the description in the pic is wrong, as it's an IWI model in .44 Magnum, fixing now. [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 17:29, 12 May 2016 (EDT)

::I wrote that, and I guess I was wrong. But whoever added the new description needs to do a bit more editing (or I will do so); it is now almost unreadable. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 22:00, 12 May 2016 (EDT)
:::Thanks for the rewrite, it's better than what I did. [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 22:39, 12 May 2016 (EDT)

== M249 or K3? ==

This movie was filmed in British Columbia, which means that the M249s are likely to be [[Daewoo K3]]s (and as we've seen recently on TV shows like ''[[Fargo - Season 1|Fargo]]'', the Canadian armorers have started adding M249 PIP accessories to their K3s). When I saw this movie in the theater, I could have sworn I saw the K3-style front sight and gas tube when the guns were fired - anyone have a better pic of the front end of the guns?

Also, the weapons in the last image definitely are M249s, but as someone noted on the page, they are short-barreled Paratrooper models, whereas the firing guns are longer barreled. It's possible that the armorers used K3s for firing, and replica/airsoft M249s for non-firing. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 22:05, 12 May 2016 (EDT)

== Galil SAR ==
It's most likely not an Airsoft gun if it's chambered in 7.62X39mm. I've shot a Valmet that was converted into a 7.62X39mm Galil SAR clone. A few months after I shot it the rifle was for sale and going for $17,000.
[[File:Saddle Butte 007.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Galil SAR clone built from a 7.62X39mm Valmet.]]

:It seems kind of odd to me that a custom gun that goes for 17 grand would be used for a scene where it is just standing in a corner and isn't fired. Especially as later it seems to be replaced by a different real live firing gun (the Type 84S-2). I would also say that the gas block is wrong for a Valmet and looks more like a Galil one, but it could be that if it is a conversion they used a real Galil one. Without it being shown firing though I would not assume that it is a real weapon. A similar gun (Galil SAR, 7.62 AK mag) was used in the latest series of ''Arrow'', and in that the Galil was a 5.56 for all the firing scenes, but in one episode where it was never fired and was just being carried around it had a 7.62 mag. I highly doubt that they would use a real live firing gun in an episode where they know that it will never be fired. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:44, 13 May 2016 (EDT)
::From what I've read, the large bag of weapons Deadpool brings with him were intended to be used during the showdown with Francis' mercenaries; however, Fox decided to cut the movie's funding at the last minute by about $30-50 million (not quite so sure about the numbers though). Because of budgetary constraints (which became part of the movie's usual supply of inside jokes), some aspects of the movie were scaled down and the writers instead decided to have Deadpool forget his gun bag in the taxi for continuity reasons. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] ([[User talk:Kenny99|talk]]) 22:07, 13 May 2016 (EDT)
:::I didn't say that it was the same firearm. I just said that there are 7.62X39mm Galils out there. They are not common but they do exist. I know of a photo of a Galil running off an AK magazine that was taken in Columbia of all places. Allegedly both Israel and South Africa did a small run of Rifles in that caliber. Now just because a Galil is running off an AK magazine does not make it airsoft. really we do need to find out what the actual story about that Rifle is. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 02:22, 20 May 2016 (EDT)

Deadpool (2016)

2016-05-13T07:11:05Z

Rockwolf66: /* IMI Galil SAR */

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|distributor=20th Century Fox
|character1=Wade Wilson / Deadpool
|actor1=[[Ryan Reynolds]]
|character2=Vanessa Carlysle
|actor2=[[Morena Baccarin]]
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|actor3=Ed Skrein
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|actor4=[[Gina Carano]]
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'''''Deadpool''''' is the 2016 feature film adaptation of the Marvel comic book character created by Fabian Nicieza and Rob Liefeld. Directed by Tim Miller, the film follows Wade Wilson, who after being experimented on and given an extremely enhanced healing factor, takes up the alter ego of Deadpool, and uses his prior Special Forces training and his newly acquired powers to hunt down the man who nearly destroyed his life. [[Ryan Reynolds]] returns as Deadpool, having previously portrayed a version of the character in 2009's ''[[X-Men Origins: Wolverine]]''.

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=Handguns=
==IWI Desert Eagle Mark XIX==
Deadpool ([[Ryan Reynolds]]) can be seen dual-wielding [[Desert Eagle#Desert Eagle Mark XIX|IWI Desert Eagle Mark XIX]] pistols as his primary firearm, using them to great effect. His Desert Eagles are current-production Mark XIX models with over-barrel Picatinny-style rails made by IWI in Israel. They are recognizable by their safeties, which are retained from the original production Mark XIX; the U.S.-made Magnum Research version, in contrast, now has the "teardrop"-style safety found on the original Mark I. The Desert Eagles used in the films are chambered in .50 AE, based on shots of the shell casings (with .50 AE clearly visible) and the lack of fluting on the barrels. Strangely, they are apparently not fully loaded, as he states he has "12 bullets" in the highway fight, meaning 6 rounds per gun while Desert Eagle handguns in .50 AE hold 7+1 rounds. Also, at another noteworthy point, the shell casings of the ammunition are marked with the number of the round spent.

[[Image:Desert eagle picatinny.JPG|thumb|none|350px|IWI Desert Eagle Mark XIX, current production model with Picatinny railed barrel - .44 Magnum. The versions in the film are the .50 AE models as they do not have fluted barrels.]]
[[File:Deadpool-DesertEagle-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Biting one of his gloves with his mask taken off, Deadpool fires his Desert Eagle.]]
[[File:Deadpool Deagle (4).jpg|thumb|none|601px|Deadpool checks his magazine to reach a total of...12 rounds between his two Desert Eagles. Funnily, the magazine looks like it is only holding four rounds.]]
[[File:Deadpool-Trailer-DesertEagle-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Deadpool flips out of an upturned car nailing one of his adversaries with a sweet headshot.]]
[[File:Deadpool-Trailer-DesertEagle-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Deadpool takes aim with his Desert Eagle...]]
[[File:Deadpool-Trailer-DesertEagle-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|....And fires.]]
[[File:Deadpool Deagle (1).jpg|thumb|none|601px|Deadpool shooting his Desert Eagle "Gangsta style" against Ajax's mercenaries.]]
[[File:Deadpool-Trailer-DesertEagle-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Try to tear yourself away from the glorious glutes and check out the grips of Deadpool's Desert Eagles and the Tactical Armour Designs holsters. Note also that these retain the earlier safety switch found on the earlier IWI version, it is not the Magnum Research version with the "teardrop" safety found on the Mark I.]]
[[File:Deadpool-Trailer-DesertEagle-5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|''"I'm touching myself tonight."'' Deadpool inhales the gun barrel smoke from his Desert Eagles after killing 3 guys with one bullet.]]
[[File:Deadpool Deagle (2).jpg|thumb|none|601px|A earlier spandex-wearing Deadpool with a Desert Eagle as he hunts down Ajax.]]
[[File:Deadpool Deagle (3).jpg|thumb|none|601px|Deadpool takes out his Desert Eagle to execute a woman, after contemplating if hitting her or not was sexist.]]
[[File:Deadpool 15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Deadpool loads his Desert Eagles into his gun bag. You can clearly see "IWI" on the grips. ''TRIVIA: "Felcan" is not a real ammunition manufacturer; this is a reference to Felcan Enterprises, the name of the Vancouver-based armory which supplied the weapons used in the movie (a similar Easter Egg appears in ''[[Dark Angel (TV Series)#Vektor CP1|Dark Angel]]'').'']]

==Beretta 92FS Inox==
One of the patrons at the "Sister Margaret's Home for Wayward Girls" pulls a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]] when Weasel ([[T.J. Miller]]) gets threatened.
[[Image:Beretta-Inox.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Beretta 92FS Inox - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Deadpool 54.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Beretta 92FS Inox is seen on the right.]]

==Beretta Px4 Storm==
One of the bar patrons at the "Sister Margaret's Home for Wayward Girls" pulls a [[Beretta Px4 Storm]] pistol.
[[Image:Px4 Storm.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta Px4 Storm - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Deadpool_52.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Beretta Px4 seen on the left.]]

==Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket==
"Blind Al" ([[Leslie Uggams]]) gives Deadpool a [[Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket]] with pearl grips. Weasel ([[T.J. Miller]]) mentions that it's a .45 caliber, but in reality, the pistol is only a .25.
[[Image:Colt1908VestPocketNickel.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket Nickel with pearl grips - .25 ACP]]
[[File:Deadpool Colt1903 (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Blind Al" (Leslie Uggams) shows her Model 1908 pistol in her boot.]]
[[File:Deadpool Colt1908 (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Blind Al" hands her Model 1908 pistol to Deadpool ([[Ryan Reynolds]]).]]
[[File:Deadpool 24.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Deadpool inspects the Model 1908 pistol he got from Al.]]
[[File:Deadpool Colt1908 (3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|''"Any last words?"'' Deadpool points the Model 1908 to Ajax's head.]]
[[File:Deadpool 26.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ajax with Deadpool's Model 1908 pistol at his head.]]
[[File:Deadpool Colt1908 (4).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wide shot of Deadpool with his Model 1908 aimed at Ajax.]]

==Glock 17==
Several of Ajax's mercenaries carries a [[Glock 17]]s. Deadpool also carried a Glock 17 in his gun bag as he heads to the scrapyard.
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Glock 17 (3rd Generation) - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Deadpool GlockOP.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Glock 17 seen during the opening credits.]]
[[File:Deadpool Glock (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary draws his Glock 17 from his leg holster.]]
[[File:Deadpool Glock (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Deadpool grabs the mercenary's Glock 17 before he could do anything with it.]]
[[File:Deadpool Glock (3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Deadpool dragging the mercenary's Glock 17.]]
[[File:Deadpool Glock (4).jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary draws his Glock 17 on Deadpool.]]
[[File:Deadpool 27.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Glock 17 in free-fall.]]
[[File:Deadpool Glock (5).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Deadpool pulls his Glock 17 out of a Hello Kitty backpack and loads it in the cab on the way to the scrapyard.]]

==Heckler & Koch Mark 23==
A [[Heckler & Koch Mark 23]] is another weapon gathered up by Wade before confronting Ajax at the scrapyard.
[[Image:Mk23.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch Mark 23 - .45 ACP]]
[[File:Deadpool 12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Heckler & Koch Mark 23 pistol on top.]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 29==
When Wade gathers up "all the guns", a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] revolver with a 8 3/8" barrel is seen being put in a bag.
[[Image:Smith wesson 44mag 8inch barrel.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 29 revolver with 8 3/8" barrel - .44 Magnum]]
[[File:Deadpool 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Deadpool takes a long barreled Smith & Wesson Model 29 out from under a pillow.]]

==Para-Ordnance P14.45 Limited==
Before becoming Deadpool, Wade Wilson carries a [[Para-Ordnance P-14|Para-Ordnance P14.45 Limited]] pistol.
[[File:Para P14 Limited.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Para-Ordnance P14.45 Limited, early model with vertical slide serrations - .45 ACP]]
[[File:Deadpool 28.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wade Wilson ([[Ryan Reynolds]]) points his piece at Merchant (Kyle Cassie)]]
[[File:Deadpool WadePistol (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wade pointing his P14.45 Limited pistol at Merchant, but at an angle so we can see the pistol's front.]]
[[File:Deadpool WadePistol (4).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wade sweet-talking between Mr. Merchant and Jeremy the pizza boy with his P14.45 Limited.]]
[[File:Deadpool WadePistol (6).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wilson prods Merchant's head with the P14.45 Limited.]]
[[File:Deadpool WadePistol (7).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wade holsters his P14.45 Limited in his shoulder holster, where we can see the grip.]]

==TiSAS Zigana F==
One of the bar patrons pulls a [[TiSAS Zigana|TiSAS Zigana F]] pistol.
[[File:Zigana F chrome.jpg|thumb|300px|none|TiSAS Zigana F, chrome finish - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Deadpool_55.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The biker looking bar patron pulling a TiSAS Zigana F pistol.]]

=Submachine Guns=
==Heckler & Koch MP5K==
Ajax's motorcycle mercenaries use the [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]] against Deadpool.
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5K - version with SEF Plastic Trigger Pack - 9x19mm. This is a very well worn Motion picture weapon]]
[[File:Deadpool MP5K (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|A motorcycle mercenary with his MP5K getting a wedgie in the opening cinematic.]]
[[File:Deadpool MP5K (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|A motorcycle mercenary aims his MP5K at Deadpool.]]
[[File:Deadpool-Trailer-MP5K-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary opens fire with his MP5K.]]
[[File:Deadpool MP5K (3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The mercenary dodging some of Deadpool's shots while holding his MP5K.]]
[[File:Deadpool MP5K.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The motorcycle mercenary with his MP5K.]]

==Heckler & Koch UMP45==
A [[Heckler & Koch UMP45]] is another weapon gathered up by Wade before confronting Ajax at the scrapyard.
[[Image:UMP_45.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Heckler & Koch UMP45 - .45 ACP]]
[[File:Deadpool 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Blind Al" pulls a folded UMP45 out of a book cabinet.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP7A1==
Soldiers with a warlord in the beginning of the movie are seen with [[Heckler & Koch MP7A1]]s.
[[Image:H&K MP71A1.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Heckler & Koch MP7A1 with factory magazine and iron sights - 4.6x30mm]]
[[File:Deadpool MP7 (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ajax lifts up the warlord single-handedly while the soldier on the left gets defensive with his MP7A1.]]
[[File:Deadpool MP7 (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The soldiers picking up one of Ajax's package. The MP7A1 is slung over the soldier.]]

==IMI Mini Uzi ==
A [[Mini Uzi]] is another weapon gathered up by Wade before confronting Ajax at the scrapyard.
[[Image:MiniUzi 01.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Mini Uzi with stock folded - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Deadpool 61.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Mini Uzi put into the bag.]]

=Rifles/Carbines=
==FN SCAR-L==
Some of Ajax's mercenaries who engage Deadpool on the bridge carry black [[FN SCAR-L]]s fitted with EOTech 552 sights and Magpul AFGs.
[[Image:Scar l std.jpg|thumb|500px|none|FN SCAR-L with black finish and rail covers - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:Deadpool-Trailer-AR-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Operators loading up his SCAR-L.]]
[[File:Deadpool-Trailer-AR-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Operator behind "Brown Pants" carrying his SCAR-L.]]
[[File:Deadpool SCAR (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary fires his SCAR-L at Deadpool.]]
[[File:Deadpool SCAR (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The mercenary firing his SCAR-L.]]
[[File:Deadpool SCAR (3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The mercenary checking his SCAR-L after it clicks empty.]]
[[File:Deadpool SCAR (4).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Three mercenaries with their SCAR-L's all line-up for Deadpool's final shot.]]

==IMI Galil SAR==
What appears to be an [[Galil#Galil SAR|IMI Galil SAR]] rifle is gathered up among the rest of the guns. It's likely that this is a Valmet Rifle converted into a Galil SAR clone. The reasoning is that the IMI Galil SAR has never been made in 7.62X39mm and there are Valmet rifles in that caliber that have been converted into Galil SAR clones running from AK magazines.
[[Image:Galil-SAR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|IMI Galil SAR - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:Deadpool 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Galil SAR is seen in the bathroom.]]

==IMI Tavor CTAR-21==
Some of Ajax's mercenaries getting helplessly cut down by Deadpool at the scrapyard carry [[IMI Compact Tavor CTAR-21|IMI Tavor CTAR-21]]s.
[[Image:IMI CTAR-21 Tavor.jpg|thumb|none|450px|IMI Tavor CTAR-21 with ITL MARS red dot sight - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:Deadpool-Trailer-AR-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One heavily armored operator is cut down while armed with his CTAR-21.]]
[[Image:Deadpool-Trailer-AR-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Revealing another operator also armed with a CTAR-21.]]

==IMI Tavor MTAR-21==
Some of Ajax's mercenaries also carry [[IMI Micro Tavor MTAR-21|IMI Tavor MTAR-21]]s at the scrapyard as they also get helplessly cut down by Deadpool.
[[Image:Mtar-21.jpg|thumb|none|400px|IMI Tavor MTAR-21 with Meprolight red dot sight - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[Image:Deadpool-Trailer-AR-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another unfortunate operator waiting to be cut down while armed with his MTAR-21. Note the lack of sights.]]

==Norinco Type 84S-2==

A [[Norinco Type 84S-2]] fitted with a black polymer pistol grip and handguard is gathered up among the rest of the guns.

[[File:Type 84-2.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Norinco Type 84S-2 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:Deadpool 12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Norinco Type 84-2 is put in the bag.]]

==SIG SG 552==
Some of Ajax's mercenaries who engage Deadpool on the bridge carry [[SIG SG 552]]s fitted with EOTech 551 sights and Magpul AFGs.
[[File:SIG SG 553.jpg|thumb|450px|none|SIG SG 552 with scope rail attached - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:Deadpool SIG 552.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two mercenaries in the back of a SUV hold their SIG SG 552s on Deadpool.]]
[[File:Deadpool-Trailer-AR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Operators taking aim with his SG 552.]]
[[File:Deadpool-Trailer-AR-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Brown Pants" is seen aiming his SG 552 at Deadpool.]]
[[File:Deadpool SIG 552 (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two mercenaries with SIG SG 552s, with one prepping a grenade.]]
[[File:Deadpool SIG 552 (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary with a SIG SG 552 checking Deadpool after shooting him.]]

==Steyr AUG A1==
The [[Steyr AUG A1]] is seen in the hands of Al ([[Leslie Uggams]]).
[[Image:Steyr-AUG.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Steyr AUG A1 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:Deadpool_17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Steyr AUG A1 is seen in the hands of Al ([[Leslie Uggams]]).]]
[[File:Deadpool AUG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Weasel (T.J. Miller) takes the AUG A1 from Al.]]
[[File:Deadpool AUG (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The stock of the AUG A1 sticking out of Deadpool's gun bag.]]

=Shotguns=
==Remington 870 (Short Barreled)==
When Wade asks for "all the guns", Weasel ([[T.J. Miller]]) first takes up a short-barreled [[Remington 870]] shotgun fitted with a side folding stock. A second short-barreled 870 with front and rear pistol grips and a top folding stock is picked up by Wade. The short-barreled 870 handled by Weasel and seen in the gun bag appears to be an airsoft model, the plasticy finish, incorrect looking pump, the presences of a inner-barrel, and a tube mag support ring around a barrel this short gives this away as a airsoft replica.
[[File:Jamesgeorgopoulosthedarkknightjoker.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington 870 with shortened barrel and shortened stock - 12 gauge. This is the screen-used firearm seen handled by [[Heath Ledger]] and [[William Fichtner]] in the film ''[[The Dark Knight]]''. '''Thanks to [[User:Jimmygcreative|James Georgopoulos]]'''.]]
[[Image:870 shorty.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Short barreled Remington 870 with TacStar front and rear pistol grips - 12 gauge]]
[[File:Deadpool 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Weasel ([[T.J. Miller]]) checks the short-barreled Remington 870. You can see the side folding stock.]]
[[File:Deadpool 05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wade about to stuff a second short-barreled Remington 870 into the gun bag. This one has a Police Folder pistol grip and top folding stock and is fitted with a TacStar front pistol grip.]]
[[File:Deadpool 12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Remington 870 that was picked up by Weasel is to the right of the Type 84S-2 and under the Mark 23. Here you can see the inner-barrel for an airsoft gun, incorrect looking pump, and pointless tube mag support ring.]]

==UTAS UTS-15==
The [[UTAS UTS-15]] is used by some of Ajax's mercenaries against Deadpool at the scrapyard.
[[Image:UTS-15 Gen2.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Gen 2 UTAS UTS-15 - 12 gauge]]
[[File:Deadpool 34.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A UTS-15 shotgun seen in the hands of a mercenary.]]
[[File:Deadpool 31.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another UTS-15 on the right.]]

=Machine Guns=

==Daewoo K3==
Any time the [[FN M249 SAW|M249 SAW Para]]s are shown firing they become full-length [[Daewoo K3]]s fitted with the same PIP stock and railed handguard, and are fitted with EOTech 551 sights.
[[Image:Korean Pig.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Daewoo K3 without a disentegrating belt - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:Deadpool 18.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The two mercenaries on the right with their Daewoo K3 PIPs. Note the full length barrel and Daewoo K3 front sight.]]
[[File:Deadpool 20.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two mercenaries fire their Daewoo K3 PIPs at Deadpool. Both are fitted EOTech 551 sights.]]

==FN M249 SAW Para==
[[FN M249 SAW|FN M249 SAW Para]]s with the PIP (Product Improvement Package) and fitted with both EOTech 552 and 551 sights are wielded by some of Ajax's mercenaries against Deadpool at the scrapyard. They seem to switch to full-length [[Daewoo K3]]s whenever they are shown firing, hinting that they are airsoft versions of the FN M249 SAW Para.
[[Image:M249 Para ACOG.jpg|thumb|none|450px|FN M249 SAW Paratrooper with PIP - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
[[File:Deadpool M249LAW (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The two mercenaries with their M249 SAW Paras. Note the M249 paratrooper-length barrel.]]

=Other=
==M67 Hand Grenade==
One of Ajax's mercenaries attempts to take out Deadpool with a [[M67 Hand Grenade]]
[[Image:Baseball.jpg|thumb|none|200px|M67 fragmentation grenade]]
[[File:Deadpool Grenade (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary primes a M67 grenade by pulling the safety pin.]]
[[File:Deadpool Grenade (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The grenade shell in the mercenary's hand as Deadpool's .50 AE round heads straight for it.]]

==M72 LAW==
One of of Ajax's mercenaries is seen with [[M72 LAW]] rocket launchers when confronting Deadpool at the scrapyard.
[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW - 66mm]]
[[File:Deadpool 18.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The mercenary on the left sets up two M72 LAW rocket launchers.]]
[[File:Deadpool M249LAW (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The mercenary on the right with the M72 LAW.]]
[[File:Deadpool M249LAW (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The mercenary at the back with the M72 LAW. Note that somehow he teleported from the right of the two mercenaries to their left.]]

==World War II Poster==
In his room, Deadpool has a small poster with the silhouette of U.S. firearms of World War II.
[[File:Deadpool WWIIPoster.jpg|thumb|none|600px|To the right of a heavily disfigured Wade Wilson is a poster with the silhouette of US WWII guns. From top to bottom: [[M1911]], [[M3 Grease Gun]], [[M1A1 Thompson]], [[M1A1 Carbine]], and the [[M1 Garand]].]]

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Talk:Fallout 4

2015-11-18T07:19:46Z

Rockwolf66: /* Pipe weapons: Total fiction? */

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=Discussion=
Once you upgrade the Combat Rifle with long barrel, .308 receiver, and full stock, it's pretty much a BAR. And the Hunting Rifle is probably based on a real rifle. as well. The Assault Rifle looks a bit like the Lewsi Gun, but I haven't got one yet.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 10:05, 13 November 2015 (EST)
:Oh, yeah, there's a .44 revolver as well.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 10:08, 13 November 2015 (EST)
::The revolver is similar to the S&W M29, which would make sense since they used that model in the previous games. The character in first person is always shown cooking the hammer between shots, but that isn't actually animated in third person.
::There's something i wonder btw, in the live action intro (which doesn't have Ron Pearlman narrating for some reason :() you can see a chinese soldier holding a rifle that kinda looks like a Galil, is that the case?--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 12:10, 13 November 2015 (EST)

::Haven't gotten that far in the game myself, but yeah, the Galil looks like it has the folding bipod equipped (seen below), making it the Galil ARM. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 12:58, 13 November 2015 (EST)
:::Have the chinese ever used Galil's or is that a stand in for whatever weapon they were using in the 50's?--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 13:25, 13 November 2015 (EST)
[[Image:Fallout4Galil.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Chinese soldier holds a Galil ARM in the live-action intro.]]
:No the Chinese never used Galils, the Galil went into service with the Israelis in 1972, and the Chinese used Type 56 Carbines aka the Chinese SKS and the Type 56 Chinese AKs in the 50's. [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 14:57, 13 November 2015 (EST)
::Struck me as a bit odd for them to use that weapon in that intro. Then again, this is a game where you can have laser pistols so i guess i can gloss over it.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 15:07, 13 November 2015 (EST)
Maybe as a stand-in for the Type 81? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:20, 13 November 2015 (EST)
:Type 81's came out in the 1980's. [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 15:25, 13 November 2015 (EST)
You can't put real timeline on a Fallout game, they have a parallel history, where a lot of technology came early, and some of it more advanced than ours right now. Realistically the rifle is probably not meant to be a galil but just a generic rifle that in that universe is used by them, they just chose the Galil because it would be relatively unknown to gamers and it looks like a bad guy gun. AK on the other hand would be known by most --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 09:04, 17 November 2015 (EST)

::Oh, and I just saw a Walther PPK (or a PPK/S) on a loading screen today. Haven't seen one in the game yet, though. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:33, 13 November 2015 (EST)
:::It would('ve) be nice to have one of those in the game. [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 15:41, 13 November 2015 (EST)

The Combat Rifle looks like a PPSh-41 but with a small mag and apparently chambered in. 45 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 22:36, 15 November 2015 (EST)
: Looks a bit like the BAR with the long barrel, full stock, and .308 receiver--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 06:22, 16 November 2015 (EST).

== Pipe weapons: Total fiction? ==

Anyone who has played this game has probably come across one of the many pipe weapons in game, weapons that have been crudely built from (as you might have guessed) pipes, sticks and other junk. What i wonder is if these types of weapons even would work in real-life.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 16:30, 13 November 2015 (EST)
:I know you can build a zip gun using pipes. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 16:43, 13 November 2015 (EST)
::To some extent, yes, it is entirely possible to make working firearms out of scrap materials but of course they always have inherent flaws. I doubt you'd be able to make 'em like anything in Fallout 4 but I know that many third world militia's and criminal elements in the world sometime make use of home-made firearms ranging from revolvers and pistols to sub-machine guns and rifles all made out of pipes and scrap metal. While I wouldn't believe that the design of the Pipe Pistol (and its upgrades from pistol to rifle) could work, the most realistic "home-made" weapon I've found thus far appears to be the Pipe Revolver. It's chambered in .45 caliber and is single action only. [[User:Draco122|Draco122]] ([[User talk:Draco122|talk]]) 17:21, 13 November 2015 (EST)
:::Well, there are some guns like the Sten that are specifically designed to be made with as little specialised tooling as possible, too. Though I do like the pipe-FG42 you can build, that's suitably silly. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:35, 15 November 2015 (EST)
::::Building a pipe-weapon is possible, but AFAIK it would only be good for like one or two shots. A fully-automatic pipe weapon, especially the ones in game that are built out of a wood block, springs, screws and piping wouldn't be good for more than a few shots before they either caught fire, jammed, exploded or broke. Making a weapon out of that stuff that can feed, extract and fire .38s and .45s with no problems constantly (and do it fully automatic) is in the realm of fantasy. Its a nice touch though, really fits into the universe and gives it a very "Metro 2033" vibe. [[User:Antediluvial|Antediluvial]] ([[User talk:Antediluvial|talk]]) 01:04, 18 November 2015 (EST)
:::: not quite total fiction. You really should check out some of the weapons that have turned up on Improguns. Some of the stuff rivals factory quality while other stuff I'm surprised it didn't explode. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]])

== Weapons thus far ==

So my journey's into Fallout 4 and the vast number of weapons have made me try and find the most realistic looking ones so far the ones I have found are:
* .44 Revolver - Like someone above has said it resembles the S&W Model 29, however certain mods and even a unique version make it look very similar to some Dan Wesson PPC Revolvers.
* Walther PPK - Is a unique 10mm Pistol called the "Deliever", it has a permanatly affixed suppressor and uses 10mm
* Flare Gun - Appears to be based off the german Kampfpistole Z, works similar to the Radio in FNV, fire it in the air and it will summon allies to your position if they are nearby.
* Hunting Rifle - Appears to be based off the early Remington 700, a unique version called Reba II uses .50 caliber and a synthetic polymer stock and can also be modified into a pistol form
* Combat Rifle/Combat Shotgun - Both seem to use the same model, except the Combat Shotgun uses a different magazine. Initially it chambers the .45 Round, which made me think it was like supped up Reising SMG but can later be converted to .308 and function similar to a BAR.
* Double Barrel Shotgun - Mods really change this weapon, initially it appears as a short barrelled shotgun with a pistol grip but can feature sawn off barrels for increase spread (and better critical damage) or a full wooden stock and a long barrel for more concerntrated fire.
* Sniper Rifle - Haven't found one yet but it appears to be based on a Semi-Auto sniper platform.
[[User:Draco122|Draco122]] ([[User talk:Draco122|talk]]) 17:47, 13 November 2015 (EST)
::So far, the weapons that i've come across that's called sniper rifle was just the hunting rifle with a scope. The names of the weapons change depending on what mods they have.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 07:32, 14 November 2015 (EST)
:::You can also get it to call your weapon a sniper rifle if you give a "pipe" weapon some combination of long barrel / marksman stock / scope. It seems to work out the name of the weapon a bit like Borderlands does, only it doesn't only give the weapon the highest-order prefix. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:38, 15 November 2015 (EST)
:::Also having seen the model for the .44 revolver, the huge beefy barrel isn't really Dan Wesson, it's just a really weirdly re-proportioned vented rib barrel turned upside-down. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 10:48, 15 November 2015 (EST)

== Remington VTR ==
If you upgrade the hunting rifle with the final stock and a certain barrel which makes the barrel into a triangular shape, it strongly resembles a VTR. Worth mentioning? [[User:Majorcamo|Majorcamo]] ([[User talk:Majorcamo|talk]]) 09:40, 15 November 2015 (EST)
:Got a screenshot? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:41, 15 November 2015 (EST)
:: I can get one uploaded once I'm off work, I can also do some 1st person ones of the others as well. Also, could someone move the mural guns to a non-usable section? [[User:Majorcamo|Majorcamo]] ([[User talk:Majorcamo|talk]]) 09:46, 15 November 2015 (EST)
:::We don't normally do that, weapons are usually documented by type rather than if you can use them or not. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:51, 15 November 2015 (EST)
::: Alright, one last thing, the Assault Rifle in-game instantly reminded me of an MG-08 or something along those lines, even more so since it can take a drum mag. It also has a unique compensator that someone might be able to narrow it down. [[User:Majorcamo|Majorcamo]] ([[User talk:Majorcamo|talk]]) 10:02, 15 November 2015 (EST)
::::Haven't seen it yet, been too busy pratting around turning my pipegun into an FG42-thing :) [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 10:06, 15 November 2015 (EST)
:::::Also, I think I have now seen that barrel you're talking about for the hunting rifle, it looks more like it's a squashed FAL handguard. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 10:52, 15 November 2015 (EST)
::::::I checked it, it is a VTR based stock and triangular barrel. [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 15:24, 15 November 2015 (EST)
:::::::For Tim. http://i.imgur.com/ghSou9r.jpg [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 20:19, 15 November 2015 (EST)
::::::::Huh, ok. Didn't look like it did that from the side. Guess I was figuring that from their propensity to make custom parts by randomly stretching and squashing things, like the MP7 bits on the rocket launcher. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 20:41, 15 November 2015 (EST)

== Minor Edit ==
Just a quick edit to the page, but you can remove the Walther PPK aka The Deliverer' surpressor by going to the Weapons Workbench in-game. --[[User:SeanWolf|SeanWolf]] ([[User talk:SeanWolf|talk]]) 23:06, 16 November 2015 (EST)
:Didn't know that--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 06:49, 17 November 2015 (EST)
::I only just found out last night you can do that (Though, am I the only one hearing the silencer sound-effect from the N64 Goldeneye 007 when firing that gun while it's surpressed?). --[[User:SeanWolf|SeanWolf]] ([[User talk:SeanWolf|talk]]) 12:43, 17 November 2015 (EST)
:::Actually just got it, can't say it sounds like that though--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 14:06, 17 November 2015 (EST)

== Acronym for player character. ==

So i was just wondering if we should use an acronym for the player character, like PC, Since the PC doesn't have any catchy name like "The lone wanderer" or "The courier" this time around.
Not a huge deal really but constantly writing player character just seems a bit dull.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 14:13, 17 November 2015 (EST)
: Your character is the Sole Survivor.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 14:25, 17 November 2015 (EST)
::In that case.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 15:00, 17 November 2015 (EST)
:::Which is a bit of an odd name for them since the whole point of their quest is that they're looking for a second survivor. As long as you don't call them "the player" since the person in the game isn't the player: you end up with extremely silly sentences like "this weapon can easily kill the player" if you do that which make it sound like the game has a high chance of leaving you lying dead on the sofa. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 15:12, 17 November 2015 (EST)
::::(un)Funny thing is that i just did that. Call the "Sole Survivor" the player. Oh well, such is the life of the mac--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 15:27, 17 November 2015 (EST)

== Name of rifle ==

The generic name for the Remington appears to be "rifle:" "hunting" is the prefix for short versions and "sniper" the prefix for long ones. "Sniper" might also require a scope to be fitted, but I know it does require a long barrel:

[[Image:Fallout4-10mm-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Scoped Powerful Hunting Rifle" can be seen in the list (I didn't highlight it because I already had a shot of the Obrez version and didn't think I needed another).]]
[[Image:Fallout4-Remington-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Since I didn't have enough screws or duct tape to make a long barrel (um...) I didn't have one at that point, but the title changes when it's selected. Since it doesn't say "scoped," "sniper rifle" probably requires rifle + scope + long barrel, but I haven't checked what it's called if you deselect the scope yet.]]
:Interesting hunting rifle on the first pic there. Is it a unique weapon?--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 15:50, 17 November 2015 (EST)
::Naw, it's just the name there because I didn't have it highlighted. Look two up from the cursor. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 15:52, 17 November 2015 (EST)
:::Crazy--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 16:08, 17 November 2015 (EST)
::::Also, now that i think about it, should the 10mm pistol even be on this page? Considering it doesn't really look like any actual gun (atleast not any gun that i can think of)
::::It doesn't really have any resemblance to the Desert Eagle anymore.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 16:18, 17 November 2015 (EST)
:::::It's worth pointing out that it's changed from being loosely based on a real gun to just being based on the previous version of itself; we covered that version, so we should probably include it here too. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 17:21, 17 November 2015 (EST)
::::::Is it just me or does it looks as a mutated [[Colt M1911]]? --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 00:53, 18 November 2015 (UTC+2)
:::::::I guess i can see some resemblance to the 1911, some.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 18:50, 17 November 2015 (EST)
::::::::It reminds me of that prototype stamped steel 1911.http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/01/02/the-mystery-of-the-stamped-steel-1911/ --[[User:Aidoru|Aidoru]] ([[User talk:Aidoru|talk]]) 19:27, 17 November 2015 (EST)
:::::::::Yeah, but that's largely a coincidence, it's a deagle slide with the safety removed because we have the past games to refer to. Given how obscure that pistol is, I doubt the devs knew about it. Also check out the Liberator on that page, someone plated one of those silly contraptions? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 19:34, 17 November 2015 (EST)
::::::::::I know some people are weird about it, but we include completely fictional guns (as long as that's not all the game has) to inform people that look up the game or the weapons what they are and are not. [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 20:44, 17 November 2015 (EST)
:::::::::::Yeah, as long as it's not something nobody would think was real in the first place like the laser muskets, it's ok. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 20:46, 17 November 2015 (EST)

== About screenshots ==

If you're playing the PC version of the game and want to take some fancy screenshots for the site (or just in general) You can use the console and type in tfc, this will allow you to move around the camera freely, type tfc 1 and it will also pause time. Then you can just hide the HUD by writing in tm and/or change the FOV via typing in fov 90 for example (the default FOV is 70)--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 18:53, 17 November 2015 (EST)
:I prefer in-game shots where possible, and you can usually get some nice views in VATS so that isn't really all that necessary. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 19:38, 17 November 2015 (EST)
::They are still in-game, VATS have HUD all over the place and the camera angles are random.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 19:53, 17 November 2015 (EST)
:::Well, the HUD is kind of supposed to be there, you know, that's what the game looks like. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 20:08, 17 November 2015 (EST)
::::It doesn't look very good in a screenshot, something that's supposed to show the gun, not the HUD, less clutter is preferable.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 20:09, 17 November 2015 (EST)
:::::Eh, my feeling on it is that it should look as normal as possible (subject to some sacrifices like turning off motion blur to make things clearer) to show what the weapon looks like while you're playing the game. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 20:45, 17 November 2015 (EST)
::::::I guess i have a flare for the dramatic then.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 21:10, 17 November 2015 (EST)

If the HUD seriously obscures the image to the point of making a positive ID difficult or something, that'd be one thing, otherwise I'm with Tim - In-game shots should remain in as normal/default a state as possible. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 01:24, 18 November 2015 (EST)

== Fallout 4 Assault Rifle=Not an assault rifle, but a machine gun? ==

The more I stare at Fallout 4's Assault Rifle (which IMHO looks weird and terrible, what happened to Fallout 3's amazing design?), the more its design and designation as an "assault rifle" bothers me. What exactly was Bethesda thinking when designing it?

*It has a liquid cooling jacket wrapped around the barrel, like an early Maxim gun. In fact its barrel reminds me of an M1917 Browning.
*It has a machine gun style carrying handle to the right of the receiver.
*It feeds from the side, like an FG42.
*Its grip is directly taken from an MG42.
*The overall bulky shape and profile seems to suggest "machine gun" more than "assault rifle"

Its basically a mishmash of various machine guns, with the "assault rifle" tacked on. Fallout 3 had its G3 based assault rifle, so this feels like a step back.[[User:Antediluvial|Antediluvial]] ([[User talk:Antediluvial|talk]]) 01:18, 18 November 2015 (EST)

Talk:Hitman: Agent 47

2015-08-17T10:20:13Z

Rockwolf66: Trailer 2

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==Weapons in trailer #1==
I checked the first trailer for Hitman: Agent 47, looks good. There are many Beretta Cx4's, Agent 47's signature pistols, and a sniper rifle that appears to be Blaser R93 LRS2. --[[User:CnC Fin|CnC Fin]] ([[User talk:CnC Fin|talk]]) 07:04, 13 February 2015 (EST)
:Just went through and screencapped/added the weapons, could see that Zachary Quinto's character is holding what looks like a Jericho, but couldn't get a clear look at it to be sure.

== Launcher ==

Is this a real launcher? It appears to be have a UMP stock. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 19:58, 24 February 2015 (EST)

[[File:HitmanA47 508.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

==Trailer #2==

I saw some Steyr TMP with the motorcycle goons in Trailer 2. Anyone else see anything?[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 06:20, 17 August 2015 (EDT)

Talk:44 Minutes: The North Hollywood Shootout

2015-06-11T06:57:48Z

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=Discussion=
Is it just me or does the muzzle of McGregor's revolver look too big to be a .357 Magnum? (Ballistics Expert2)

:- It only looks bigger on the close up of the gun - just an optical illusion. The gun is definitely a S&W 686, which is .357 only. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:30, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 

In the film, the AR-15 the 20" heavy barrel, but real his gun look like use 16" barrel and in fact may be a Bushmaster Dissipator

== Shotgun Comment ==

(Moved from main page)

Seems the M37 with stock and the M870 below are very similiar seen in this angle, so may be they are both the same type/same one used? - note by teslashark

- If you take a close look at the film image under 870, you'll notice the pump grip matches that of a standard 870, and not an Ithaca. The mag-tube endcap also matches a Remington. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 03:12, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== AR-15s ==

Did anyone else notice that the AR-15 rifles acquired from the gun shop had bayonet lugs? The NHS happened in 1997, three years into the "assault weapons" ban, which banned the sale of new firearms with, amongst other things, bayonet lugs. And this was California of all places.

:I'm really not sure that we should have separate entries for "AR-15 A2" and "M16A2". Since this is a movie (and since props get reused between scenes, typically), it seems likely that the AR-15s in the gun store are the same M16A2s used by the SWAT officers later. It wouldn't make sense for the armorer to bring two different types of guns that look identical to the set, just for the sake of accuracy (when the audience can't tell the difference). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:00, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

:Also, the Federal AW ban just banned the NEW PRODUCTION of evil features. People could buy and sell whatever PRE-BAN stuff they had, depending on their state. All throughout the 90s Californians could buy ANY pre-ban AR-15 as long as it was not banned by the Roberti-Roos AW ban of 1989. This was BEFORE the 1999 ban, which was ONE of the reasons why Gov. Grey Davis was recalled (many things caused various groups with different agendas to hate him, but the Gun Owners worked hard for his recall). So having AR-15s in 1997 for sale in California with Preban features is not illegal (though the preban guns would be tons more expensive at the time). As long as they were NOT called AR-15 and NOT made by Colt. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:30, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:: I am just so glad I live in the fine state of Indiana where there are none of the stupid laws like in California or in Illinois [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:02, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

is was just wondering. The two of the three AK varients were Romanian AIMS, but one was a Hungarian variant. was it a Hungarian one that was used in the actual incident or is that just what the movie armourers put in?

According to Wikipedia all three were Romanian made.--[[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 16:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

== just a little annoying ==
im not sure where this should go but, when this comes up on the front page it shows a pic form the colt M16A2 section the last photo and on the main page is has the caption "offices aiming their M16's" when theres a car-15 on the right, i know its a small note, but is there way to change it?

==The 1911==

I suspect that this is, in fact, the exact same gun used in ''[[Thief]]''. The page should probably be changed to reflect this. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 20:01, 18 February 2015 (EST)

==AK IRL notation==
I just undid a recent edit - a notation which is shown below -
: " In reality, the Kalashnikov rifles the bandits used were semi-automatic Chinese Norinco Type 56 variants illegally converted to full-auto. In the film, they are European, with two Romanian AKs and a Hungarian AK. "

This seems to state all of the guns used by Phillips and Matasareanu were Norincos, which I'm not sure is correct - I had remembered several sources stating the actual AKs used were varied; One of them was a Type 56-1 but at least one other was a Romanian-made variant, hence it's rather prominent exhibition in the film. So I just question the accuracy of this note and think it should be verified before it goes back on the main page. If we're gonna go about posting details of the actual event we should be diligent about being as accurate as possible. (On a related note, another comment above in the talk page here noted Matasareanu's custom AR in actual event as being a Bushmaster Dissipator, which I think is accurate, but again, I'd rather be sure before just putting it on the main page). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:22, 16 April 2015 (EDT)

It seems that AR15.com has a thread with images of the real AKs used. Both have Romanian style stocks and one has a Romanian style handguard.

[http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1687076_1997_North_Hollywood_Shootout.html AR15 thread]

[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 02:47, 11 June 2015 (EDT)
:: I just found a site with a detailed rundown of the rifles used. They were in fact heavily customized Norinco Rifles.

[http://www.northhollywoodshootout.com/ North Hollywood Shootout Webpage]
[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 02:57, 11 June 2015 (EDT)

Talk:44 Minutes: The North Hollywood Shootout

2015-06-11T06:47:15Z

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Talk:Nemesis (1992)

2015-05-02T19:04:24Z

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==Missing guns==
The guy with the M60D pulls out a M1911 style pistol before Alex kills him. I'm not sure if anything else has been missed. I'll have to check my VHS copy.

Nemesis (1992)

2015-05-02T19:02:06Z

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[[File:Nemesis92.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Nemesis'' (1992)]]

'''''Nemesis''''' is the 1992 science fiction film directed by Albert Pyun and starring [[Olivier Gruner]]. Pyun would return to direct three sequels including ''[[Nemesis 2]]''.

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=Handguns=
==Beretta 92FS (Customized)==
A customized [[Beretta 92FS]] is held by by Alex ([[Olivier Gruner]]). This pistol is fitted with a custom compensator and adjustable sights along with a laser sight. He is seen dual-wielding the pistols at the film's beginning.
[[Image:DSCN0157-1-.jpg‎|thumb|none|400px|The Beretta 92FS pistols modified to fire on full auto with barrel weights attached, and added compensators were used in the movie ''[[Underworld]]'' - 9mm.]]
[[File:Nemesis1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Production image of Alex ([[Olivier Gruner]]) dual-wielding the pistols.]]
[[File:Nem1_118.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Alex is seen dual-wielding the pistols at the film's beginning.]]
[[File:M9_oli.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The customized [[Beretta 92FS]] is held by by Alex ([[Olivier Gruner]]). ]]

== Desert Eagle MK I (stainless) ==
The stainless [[Desert Eagle MK I]] is seen in the hands of both Angie-Liv ([[Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa]]) and Alex ([[Olivier Gruner]]).
[[File:DesertEagleMarkIstainless.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
[[File:Nemesis 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The stainless Desert Eagle is held by Alex ([[Olivier Gruner]]).]]
[[File:Nem1_129.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Angie-Liv ([[Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa]]) draws his stainless Desert Eagle.]]

==Desert Eagle MK I==
A [[Desert Eagle MK I]] also is seen used in the film.
[[Image:MKIRight.jpg|thumb|none|390px|Magnum Research Desert Eagle MK I - .357 Magnum.]]
[[File:Nem1 154.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Alex is threatened with the pistol.]]

==SIG-Sauer P225==
An elderly woman pulls out what appears to be a [[SIG-Sauer P225]] pistol to take out of Farnsworth's men.
[[Image:SIG-Sauer-P225.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P225 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Nem1 147.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An elderly woman pulls out what appears to be a [[SIG-Sauer P225]] pistol.]]

=Submachine Guns=
==Heckler & Koch MP5A3 (Customized) ==
Several of members of the police including Farnsworth ([[Tim Thomerson]]) are armed with a strange-looking [[Heckler & Koch MP5]] variant that has a distinctive square-shaped flash hider fitted on the end of the barrel, an [[MP5SD]]-type hand guard, and a stockless buttcap. This custom MP5 was originally built by Cinema Weaponry for the film and would subsequently be reused in the films ''[[Executive Decision]]'' and ''[[Demolition Man]]''.
[[File:Custom MP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px]]
[[File:Nem1_144.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Farnsworth ([[Tim Thomerson]]) is armed with the customized MP5A3.]]
[[File:Nemesis 11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Farnsworth's men armed with the custom MP5A3 is taken down.]]

==Heckler & Koch MP5K==
The [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]] is used by rebels during the opening shootout. The weapon is also used by Alex.
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5K - version with SEF Plastic Trigger Pack - 9x19mm. This is a very well worn Motion picture weapon]]
[[File:Nem1_105.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rebel fires the MP5K.]]
[[File:Nem1_135.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Alex uses the MP5K.]]

=Shotguns=
==Franchi SPAS-12==
The [[Franchi SPAS-12]] is used by Alex ([[Olivier Gruner]]). The shotgun is seen fitted with various futuristic attachments.
[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 with stock folded and butt-hook removed- .12 gauge]]
[[File:Nemesis 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[Franchi SPAS-12]] is used by Alex ([[Olivier Gruner]]).]]

== Benelli M3T Super 90==
The [[Benelli M3T Super 90]] is seen used throughout the film, notably by Rosaria (Jennifer Gatti) and Farnsworth ([[Tim Thomerson]]).
[[Image:BenelliM3Super90foldingstock.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Benelli M3T Super 90 with top folding stock - 12 gauge]]
[[File:Nem1_122.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The shotgun is used by Rosaria.]]
[[File:Nem1_123.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The shotgun is fitted with a launcher.]]
[[File:Nemesis 27.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Farnsworth ([[Tim Thomerson]]) holds the shotgun.]]

=Machine Guns=
== M60D ==
One of Farnsworth's men is seen armed with what appears to be an [[M60 machine gun#M60D Machine Gun|M60D]] fitted on a Steadicam harness. This particular configuration was likely inspired by the [[M56 Smart Gun]] used in the film ''[[Aliens]]''.
[[Image:M60DDM.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60D]]
[[File:Nem1 141.jpg|thumb|none|600px|M60D on the left.]]
[[File:Nem1 142.jpg|thumb|none|600px|On the left, one of Farnsworth's men is seen armed with what appears to be an [[M60 machine gun#M60D Machine Gun|M60D]] fitted on a Steadicam harness. This particular configuration was likely inspired by the [[M56 Smart Gun]] used in the film ''[[Aliens]]''. ]]

== Browning M2 Heavy Barrel ==
Another of Farnworth's men is armed with a [[Browning M2#Browning M2 Heavy Barrel|Browning M2HB]]. The M2 is intended to be fired from a mount of some form. In this film the M2 is fitted with a sling and fired from the Hip. Nemesis is possibly the first film to show this being done.
[[Image:BrowningM2HB.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2 Heavy Barrel.]]
[[File:Nem1 142.jpg|thumb|none|600px|On the right, another of Farnworth's men is armed with a [[Browning M2#Browning M2 Heavy Barrel|Browning M2HB]] that is fired from the hip.Note that the M2 has a flash suppressor installed while in the rest of the film it does not. ]]

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Talk:The Terminator (1984)

2014-11-17T09:53:48Z

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==Trivia==
This section contains information slightly related to firearms, but never the less interesting in its own way in context.
===Future Bomb===
A custom prop was used in the scene where Kyle Reese blows up a HK tank in the future. Original design was drawn by [[James Cameron]] himself.
[[Image:Props bomb1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Original prop, used in the movie.]]
[[Image:T1 017.jpg|thumb|none|600px|James Cameron's Storyboard.]]

===Pipe Bomb===
While at the motel, Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor can be seen assembling pipe bombs from components Reese purchased during a shopping trip, which look like a rough version of a future bomb. These bombs are then later used during the final car chase of the film with Reese throwing pipe bombs out the window of the commandeered pickup, trying to hit the Terminator pursuing them on a motorcycle, though he fails to score a hit. One pipe bomb is later used to blow up the tanker truck the Terminator hijacks, and the last one is used to blow off the Terminator's lower body, fragments from the blast killing an already-wounded Reese and injuring Sarah Connor.
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-70.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kyle teaches Sarah how to assemble a Pipe Bomb.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-71.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The row of completed Pipe Bombs lie on a dresser.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-1.12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kyle Reese tosses a lit bomb at the pursuing Terminator.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-7.11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of one of the pipe bombs placed in a tanker's storage pipe for a fuel hose.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-11.11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator is blown apart after Reese places a pipe bomb in his abdomen. Interesting note: In the story, the endoskeleton is supposed to be blown in two (with one half continuing to pursue Sarah), but the prop endoskeleton is clearly obliterated in this shot. The severed head is visible flying off, though it is 'reattached' later when chasing Sarah.]]

===James Cameron's Concept Art and Storyboards===
Apart from having Terminator's [[AMT Hardballer]] replaced with [[M1911A1]] concept art and storyboards drawn by film's director [[James Cameron]] give us different view on plasma rifles, which were on that stage planned to be similar to [[AK-47]], [[M16 rifle series]] and [[Uzi]].
[[Image:T1 007.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:T1 009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:T1 014.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:T1 016.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:T1 015.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

===Gunshot sounds===
The original soundtrack for the film was only recorded in mono for the film's initial release and early video releases. In more recent video releases (including Blu-ray), the film was re-mastered to "state of art" (according to the DVD trailer) Dolby Digital 5.1 audio. Along with this re-mastering, many of the sound effects (notably the sounds of the firearms used) were re-recorded in order to bring the film's audio quality up to the standards expected of more recent releases (notably the Terminator sequels). The new sound effects have changed considerably from the original film's release, and there are arguments of which soundtrack is superior. Many fans prefer the original mono track (which was not included on any Blu-ray release) to the re-mastered Dolby 5.1 version.

As is common for film trailers, the Infiltrator Terminator's RSB-80 plasma cannon sounds different from the final release. The teaser has the weapon sounding like a regular machine gun, while the original theatrical trailer has beam sounds, but different to what is heard in the finished film.

==Metal Gear==
The original NES game ''Metal Gear'' featured a soldier on the cover that looks remarkably like Reese.
[[Image:Metal Gear.jpg|thumb|left|300px]][[Image:MetalReese.JPG|thumb|none|300px]] 

=Discussion=
==Not a T-600==

On screen the Series 600 Terminators were shown for the first time only in Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles TV-show. They had a visibly unnatural latex skin. An alternate bulkier and damaged version was shown later in Terminator: Salvation. The terminator with RSB in The Terminator is a T-800, just like the one played by Schwarzenegger. Fixed it. [[User:Kylljoi|Kylljoi]] 12:34, 15 March 2012 (CDT)

==Sound Effects==
:''It seems, with the recent DVD releases of this movie, they remastered the sound as well. Though I've yet to see the police station shootout scene in full, there are several points where I've done double takes trying to reconcile watching it now with my childhood memories of VHS.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 03:47, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
::I noticed that too. I own the VHS and when I saw it on TV, they used better gunshots and got rid of all the ricocheting sounds. I didn't really mind too much though. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

- I actually preferred the original (VHS) sound effects, though in some parts the new sounds are somewhat better. They still didn't fix the screwed up effects during the police station shootout where the SPAS sounds like the AR-18 though. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 01:28, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I can't begin to tell you how irked I was at the remastered edition for changing the sound of the gunfire. Suddenly all the pistols sound like a silencer is used on them? I'm just thankful the DVD has the original audio as an option. [[User:Ballistics_Expert2|Ballistics_Expert2]]

I thought originally the sound effects were right in the police station and then it was screwed up in the remaster. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 12:10, 10 June 2011 (CDT)

I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice or be irritated by this. Frankly most gunshots in movies today sound very weak compared to 10 or 15 years ago. Sound more like knocking against a wall or a firecracker (like the handguns in the "remastered" edition of this Terminator movie.) They did the same thing with the gunshots in all the early Dirty Harry movies. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.--Doug.38PR

==Laser Sight==
I always wondered why the Terminator needed a laser sight on his gun, besides making it look really cool.
:It was new technology at the time, and director James Cameron wanted the visual impact of the red dot glowing on Linda Hamilton's forehead. Prior to the early 1980s there were few scenes of Laser dot sighting systems, of course, NOW they are a cliche, but back then they were fresh. MPM2008

Of course, no Terminator would need a laser sight.
PLUS no Terminator would ever miss, not to mention waste 9mm ammo with an Uzi, like in the scene at the "tech-noir" club.
But on the other hand, it's just a movie. --[[User:Lastgunslinger|Lastgunslinger]] 18:14, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

*He's a robot, not a wizard. You think no computerised system has ever missed? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 13:05, 7 March 2011 (MSK)

For those of you who want to know more about how the laser sight and gun were designed, I found an article where they a few guys at the Game Developer Conference (2010) talk to the person who designed and built the gun. This is a bit redundant due to the link on the main page already, but I believe it gives more background info. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/03/just-what-you-see-the-story-behind-the-45-long-slide-laser-siting.ars --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 15:02, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== The Uzi ==
I have read in a biography of Arnold that the Uzi used in the film was borrowed from a federal agency as they were the only ones with full auto Uzi's in those days. Would anyone care to confirm that information? [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]
:Baloney. Federal Agency Uzis would NOT be "Hollywood blank adapted", i.e. barrel tapped and a BFA screwed into the barrel interior for hot movie blanks. I've seen Federal Law enforcement train sometimes with commercial 'weak' blanks, and I've seen those military 9mm blanks, but they're nothing close to full flash movie blanks. Also military and Law enforcement tend to use external 'attachable' blank firing adaptors so that the weapon can be quickly rendered back into active service. Also the film was made in 1984. The movie industry had no problem getting Uzis by that time. The Movie [[Stripes]] shot in 1980, released in 1981 has MAC-10s disguised as Uzis and some legitimate Uzis as well. MPM2008
::Actually the weapon Arnie used was directly provided by Action Arms which, at the time, was the primary provider of the full auto Uzi, and its' semi-auto siblings, during the 80s in the US. In addition, and if memory serves, Schwarzenegger was presented with an Uzi by the owner of Action Arms after the success of the film. Action Arms also provided him with the training in the weapon's use and maintenance. A clearer history can be found here.

::http://files.uzitalk.com/reference/pages/actionarms.htm

::Part way down, and next to a pic of Mitch Kalter, AA's spokesperson at the time, is a summary of the Uzi's use in the film. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 09:08, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Was there was not a ban on Uzis in California at the time?--[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 23:26, 16 November 2014 (EST)

Nope, at the time you could own just about any firearm you wanted. I'm not sure when California restricted the ownership of machineguns to those "with need" but Nationally the manufacture of civilian machineguns was not until 1986 when William Hughes put his little amendment into an otherwise good firearms law.In 1989 California passed it's bullshit "assault weapons" ban that did nothing to control crime but meant that one could no longer own an Uzi in California with out it being registered with the state. I used to live there and I am glad I live in a state where I can own any firearm I can afford. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 04:53, 17 November 2014 (EST)

==Pipe bomb pics==
Uzi870, despite the practices of some of the other users, it is not necessary to put so many pics of the pipe bombs, especially shots where we don't see the actual weapon, but only the aftermath. At this point it is just RETELLING the movie rather than identifying the weapon. As an admin I tend to delete images which belabor the point and don't even show the weapons in the section. Please try to use some discipline when doing screenshots. Pipe bombs, like IEDs, are not standard enough weapons to merit a page on the gun category, and no viewer would 'wonder what make and model' pipe bomb was used. Thanks. MPM2008

== Comment ==
I agree about the G3 being a good choice. If someone were to put one into the Terminator's head they could maybe kill it.- S&Wshooter

: I think most of the guns the rebels use in the terminator movies could destroy terminators.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:00, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Unless the G3 was supposed to be some sort of plasma rifle, it would serve little purpose other than to chase off unwanted survivors.

Well in Terminator Salvation we see that the T-600s are vulnerable to 7.62mm rounds as Connor kills one with an M60 and another shoots it's own leg off with a Minigun. Hell in the opening scene, John puts one down point blank with 5.56mm rounds, which do nothing against the T-800 later in the film, or the one from the first film.

:In Salvation, the T-600 he put down point blank with 5.56mm rounds was already damaged. Since it was pinned down by the Huey he could get a straight shot right where the CPU was located. The one he shot with the M60 it's legs where gone, but otherwise functional. The T-800 at the end of the film, maybe it had better steel? But it was most likely for dramatic effect, the rounds having no effect. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
::The T-600s are primitive compared to the later Terminators, and their cybernetic cortex is actually exposed to damage, which is a design flaw Skynet later corrected. And T-800s are made of "hyperalloy," not steel - what hyperalloy is depends on the terminator in question; earlier models were made of titanium alloy, with later models are supposed to be constructed of coltan, which doesn't make sense since a) coltan is black, while terminators are very shiny like chromed steel, and b) coltan is an ore, not an alloy, from which one can extract niobium and tantalum. Kyle Reese describes the T-800 as being "fully armored" and "very tough;" T-800s are regularly demonstrated completely shrugging off small arms fire. It's not so much that the T-800 was suddenly invincible for dramatic effect, since three movies (along with video games and comics and novels and so on) have demonstrated that most small arms do little to the infiltrator cyborgs beyond slowing them down. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 11:42, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== Poorly trained police officers ==

Sarah Conner was shown body armour in the police station. But when the Terminator began his killing spree, police officers were seen passing out M16A1 assault rifles but no body armour. Why's that??
::Also you're assessing their police tactics with what police do ... TODAY. Heavy duty body armor was NOT common practice back in the day. And in the early 1980s many cops had only the lightweight Threat level II undershirt vests and only at certain times. The 1980s and 1990s changed A LOT of police tactics (some for the better, some for the worse (like how they treat suspects even if they are cooperating))[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:22, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

It was unexpected attack so they only had time to grab rifle. by the time they got the vests on it wouldn't matter becuse the terminator would have find. the body armor police have are probably not military grade so they wont stop round form the AR-18.

:The body armor that Lt. Traxler gave Sarah looked pretty good. It didn't look like it was handgun rated only. He did commented in the film that "it will stop a 12 gauge round", he didn't say anything about rifles though. But as the second poster said it was an unexpected attack, I mean who attacks a police station? Only the terminator. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:37, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I also recalled that there were 30 police officers in the station and that 17 of them were murdered by the Terminator, were the rest of the officers were hiding throughout the entire killing spree??
:The other 13 may have just been wounded. Det. Vukovich showed up in an early draft of T3, wheelchair-bound. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 21:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out.

Something that always bothered me was how Traxler and Vukovich talked about Body Armor but
were apparently killed by the Terminator. I assumed they were wearing it under their shirts.

In a Deleted Scene, Traxler briefly survived his wounds and handed a 6 shooter to Reese.
And as Noted above, Vukovich was to survive his wounds too but was bound to a wheelchair.

Though I suppose the writers thought it was a little far-fetched, considering he received some 5.56 rounds and some 12 gauge buckshot from the Terminator.

==Trigger Discipline==

In the screenshot in which Kyle is playfully aiming his Valmet M82A at a child, shouldn't it be mentioned that he still has his finger on the trigger? [[Special:Contributions/193.1.104.2|193.1.104.2]] 02:38, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:No, http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Rules%2C_Standards_and_Principles#No_sarcastic_or_insulting_Commentary Also in the screenshot where he does it, I'm not sure if the gun goes up any further. If that's the case he's pointing at the floor, the weapon could be on safe too.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 10:38, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bullets on the counter at gunstores ==

I went to my local Cabela's and apparently they started to put SOME, like small stacks of pistol ammo on the counters now [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:27, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:Never understood why the Terminator bothered to load the weapon at all while the gunshop owner just stood there protesting like a nimrod. The thing is freakishly strong (I wonder why it didn't cart off the gigantic anti-tank rifle... maybe they don't keep 20x138mm shells in stock...) and could have just punched him in the head and it would have been fatal. Hell, it could have just crushed his windpipe - Terminators don't seem to care about being very subtle anyway. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 11:47, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

::Quite likely the Terminator wasn't loading the shotgun to specifically kill the store owner - after all it doesn't eliminate everything it sees - but rather to have its newfound arsenal immediately ready for action. Only after the store owner protests said action does he become a perceived threat to the mission, conveniently neutralized with the now-loaded shotgun already in its hands. -- Fin- 14:24, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

:::Or he just wanted to be sure it worked. [[User:Vangelis2|Vangelis2]] 03:02, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

== Police Station Attack ==

The Terminator is shot by Police and sometimes reacts to the shots by flinching slightly, probably the bullet impacts. However, He doesnt respond at all to the M16 fire by Traxler and Vukovich. '''Would the .38 Special be more powerful than a 5.56mm?'''

simply said...No. A .38 spcl only have about 200 foot pounds of energy and the 5.56 has 1,300 foot pounds of energy.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 00:39, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

==Story incongruencies==
Anyone else note how the short bit of story on the cover doesn't match completely up with the in movie story? The bit on the cover makes it seem like humans in the future thought John Connor a threat and therefore created the Terminator for the sole reason of going back in time to kill Sarah Connor. [[User:T.H.M.Christensen|T.H.M.Christensen]] 01:10, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

In terms of story,the Rulers in question are the machines. [[Special:Contributions/24.15.51.1|24.15.51.1]] 01:19, 29
December 2010 (UTC)

*Also bear in mind that the people who write the tagline haven't necessarily seen the movie. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 12:26, 7 March 2011 (MSK)

== Gun Store ==

In the Gun Store, The Terminator is looking down at something when naming his Guns, probably a Catalogue? I just wondered why The Terminator would pick the AMT Hardballer with a Long Slide and Laser Sight? Surely The Terminator could calculate the angle of his arm and shoot on target from the hip, right?

I remember reading something similar to this somewhere. Basically, it was answered in the fact that the Terminator will take any advantage he can get. If, without the laser, he's accurate 99% of the time, but with the laster he's accurate 99.1% of the time, that's what he'll use. Also, it could be possible that simply putting the laser on the target is faster than calculating the angle. -SasquatchJim

*This assumes the Terminator is actually designed to use ballistic weaponry even though Skynet's standard issue weapon for them is a line-of-sight energy gun. A fire control computer isn't much use if it doesn't have data for the weapon in it already, and the laser as an aiming aid would mean he didn't have to waste time firing off rounds at a wall to calculate the trajectories as a baseline. One imagines he's gathering practical data on any given weapon while he's using it. A lot of people assume Terminators are ''magic'', but they don't really show any super-human aiming skills aside from the T-101 in ''T2'' deliberately not killing anyone with the M79 and minigun. [[User:Vangelis2|Vangelis2]] 03:00, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

Or maybe because lasers were not well known of at the time they wanted something cool and futuristic looking? Also it helps build up the tension in the Tech Noir scene where you see the laser dot on Sarah's head. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 16:23, 3 April 2011 (CDT)

== HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE SPOILER ==

The last image on the page (pipe bomb section) is an awesome spoiler. I really think it should be removed. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 15:54, 9 June 2011 (CDT)
:And it doesn't actually show the pipe bomb, which you can argue doesn't belong on the page anyway. The code is below. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:03, 9 June 2011 (CDT)
:Also, I'm pretty sure the statute of limitations on spoilers about 30-year-old classic action movies runs out when the sequel is released.

== RSB-80 ==

Given its size relative to the gunner and Franco Columbu (one of Arnold's body-building buddies) the RSB-80 looks more like an [[Browning_M2#Browning_M2_Aircraft | M2 Aircraft]]. Anyone mind if I change it? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 14:06, 31 October 2011 (CDT)
:Franco is only 5'-5". But looking at the screenshot, it appears to have spade grips, which the 1919 doesn't have. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:19, 31 October 2011 (CDT)
::You can get after market modification to give the M1919 spade grips, and there was also the flexible mount aircraft version that had spade grips, which is confusingly called the AN/M2. I don't think it is an M2, as the actual receiver of the gun is only about as long as his forearm, it just has a very thick and long barrel shroud. Also, from the way he is swinging it around so quickly and accurately I would be very surprised if it was an M2HB, no matter how strong he is. Im not 100% it is a real gun, as I don't think it is actually firing in the scene: no cases are ejected and when he pushed the trigger there is absolutely zero recoil. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:51, 31 October 2011 (CDT)

I'm offering Chuck Bronson as a comparison. Chuck is listed on IMDB as 5'10". Franco is listed at 5'5". It still looks substantially bigger, IMHO. Columbu had been Mr. Universe two years prior to filming, so I think he could've pulled it off. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 17:49, 31 October 2011 (CDT)
[[Image:DW419196.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Charles Bronson with an M1919.]]
[[Image:T1_Bunker.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Franco Columbu with the RSB-80.]]

To me the only size difference appears to be the barrel in those screenshots, so they could have just put a barrel extension. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 02:04, 1 November 2011 (CDT)

:To my eye the reciever looks a fair bit larger compared to Columbu's torso than the M1919 looks compared to Bronson's. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:15, 1 November 2011 (CDT)
::And Columbu would have a larger torso as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 09:56, 1 November 2011 (CDT)

More shots:

[[Image:T1-HMG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:T1-HMG-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
Is that a cocking handle? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 09:56, 1 November 2011 (CDT)
:No, that's the underside. Looks more like a pintle rod. There's a big cocking handle on the right-hand side, you can see it in the image above. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 10:11, 1 November 2011 (CDT)
[[Image:T1-HMG-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:T1-HMG-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

You can see some flashes that don't look added coming from the muzzle (as in that first shot), but I think it's probably just a "gas gun" rather than actually firing blanks. He's really just waving it around and shaking it slightly to act like the recoil is affecting him, it's very obvious the gun itself isn't doing a lot. Also, watching that scene a lot of times has made me spot another Uzi. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:47, 1 November 2011 (CDT)

:Incidentally, going back through the history an older ID was that it might be a Vickers gun. Fairly sure the barrel is in the wrong place for that, though. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:26, 1 November 2011 (CDT)

==1991 DOS game and others==
I'm wondering, is it possible to write about all the videogames, based on this movie? Each of them has realistic firearms, even the hand-held game from 1988. 1991 Dos game is still pretty unique, though and I wanted to ask for opinion - is it possible to write different articles in different versions (especially since they were released ad developed separately by different companies)? --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] ([[User talk:Kloga|talk]]) 13:50, 1 December 2013 (EST)
:Games from back then usually aren't eligible because the graphics are good enough to ID the guns. If you really want to do it, please provide a sample first. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 16:30, 1 December 2013 (EST)

Talk:The Terminator (1984)

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==Trivia==
This section contains information slightly related to firearms, but never the less interesting in its own way in context.
===Future Bomb===
A custom prop was used in the scene where Kyle Reese blows up a HK tank in the future. Original design was drawn by [[James Cameron]] himself.
[[Image:Props bomb1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Original prop, used in the movie.]]
[[Image:T1 017.jpg|thumb|none|600px|James Cameron's Storyboard.]]

===Pipe Bomb===
While at the motel, Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor can be seen assembling pipe bombs from components Reese purchased during a shopping trip, which look like a rough version of a future bomb. These bombs are then later used during the final car chase of the film with Reese throwing pipe bombs out the window of the commandeered pickup, trying to hit the Terminator pursuing them on a motorcycle, though he fails to score a hit. One pipe bomb is later used to blow up the tanker truck the Terminator hijacks, and the last one is used to blow off the Terminator's lower body, fragments from the blast killing an already-wounded Reese and injuring Sarah Connor.
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-70.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kyle teaches Sarah how to assemble a Pipe Bomb.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-71.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The row of completed Pipe Bombs lie on a dresser.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-1.12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kyle Reese tosses a lit bomb at the pursuing Terminator.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-7.11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of one of the pipe bombs placed in a tanker's storage pipe for a fuel hose.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-11.11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator is blown apart after Reese places a pipe bomb in his abdomen. Interesting note: In the story, the endoskeleton is supposed to be blown in two (with one half continuing to pursue Sarah), but the prop endoskeleton is clearly obliterated in this shot. The severed head is visible flying off, though it is 'reattached' later when chasing Sarah.]]

===James Cameron's Concept Art and Storyboards===
Apart from having Terminator's [[AMT Hardballer]] replaced with [[M1911A1]] concept art and storyboards drawn by film's director [[James Cameron]] give us different view on plasma rifles, which were on that stage planned to be similar to [[AK-47]], [[M16 rifle series]] and [[Uzi]].
[[Image:T1 007.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:T1 009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:T1 014.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:T1 016.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:T1 015.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

===Gunshot sounds===
The original soundtrack for the film was only recorded in mono for the film's initial release and early video releases. In more recent video releases (including Blu-ray), the film was re-mastered to "state of art" (according to the DVD trailer) Dolby Digital 5.1 audio. Along with this re-mastering, many of the sound effects (notably the sounds of the firearms used) were re-recorded in order to bring the film's audio quality up to the standards expected of more recent releases (notably the Terminator sequels). The new sound effects have changed considerably from the original film's release, and there are arguments of which soundtrack is superior. Many fans prefer the original mono track (which was not included on any Blu-ray release) to the re-mastered Dolby 5.1 version.

As is common for film trailers, the Infiltrator Terminator's RSB-80 plasma cannon sounds different from the final release. The teaser has the weapon sounding like a regular machine gun, while the original theatrical trailer has beam sounds, but different to what is heard in the finished film.

==Metal Gear==
The original NES game ''Metal Gear'' featured a soldier on the cover that looks remarkably like Reese.
[[Image:Metal Gear.jpg|thumb|left|300px]][[Image:MetalReese.JPG|thumb|none|300px]] 

=Discussion=
==Not a T-600==

On screen the Series 600 Terminators were shown for the first time only in Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles TV-show. They had a visibly unnatural latex skin. An alternate bulkier and damaged version was shown later in Terminator: Salvation. The terminator with RSB in The Terminator is a T-800, just like the one played by Schwarzenegger. Fixed it. [[User:Kylljoi|Kylljoi]] 12:34, 15 March 2012 (CDT)

==Sound Effects==
:''It seems, with the recent DVD releases of this movie, they remastered the sound as well. Though I've yet to see the police station shootout scene in full, there are several points where I've done double takes trying to reconcile watching it now with my childhood memories of VHS.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 03:47, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
::I noticed that too. I own the VHS and when I saw it on TV, they used better gunshots and got rid of all the ricocheting sounds. I didn't really mind too much though. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

- I actually preferred the original (VHS) sound effects, though in some parts the new sounds are somewhat better. They still didn't fix the screwed up effects during the police station shootout where the SPAS sounds like the AR-18 though. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 01:28, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I can't begin to tell you how irked I was at the remastered edition for changing the sound of the gunfire. Suddenly all the pistols sound like a silencer is used on them? I'm just thankful the DVD has the original audio as an option. [[User:Ballistics_Expert2|Ballistics_Expert2]]

I thought originally the sound effects were right in the police station and then it was screwed up in the remaster. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 12:10, 10 June 2011 (CDT)

I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice or be irritated by this. Frankly most gunshots in movies today sound very weak compared to 10 or 15 years ago. Sound more like knocking against a wall or a firecracker (like the handguns in the "remastered" edition of this Terminator movie.) They did the same thing with the gunshots in all the early Dirty Harry movies. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.--Doug.38PR

==Laser Sight==
I always wondered why the Terminator needed a laser sight on his gun, besides making it look really cool.
:It was new technology at the time, and director James Cameron wanted the visual impact of the red dot glowing on Linda Hamilton's forehead. Prior to the early 1980s there were few scenes of Laser dot sighting systems, of course, NOW they are a cliche, but back then they were fresh. MPM2008

Of course, no Terminator would need a laser sight.
PLUS no Terminator would ever miss, not to mention waste 9mm ammo with an Uzi, like in the scene at the "tech-noir" club.
But on the other hand, it's just a movie. --[[User:Lastgunslinger|Lastgunslinger]] 18:14, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

*He's a robot, not a wizard. You think no computerised system has ever missed? [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 13:05, 7 March 2011 (MSK)

For those of you who want to know more about how the laser sight and gun were designed, I found an article where they a few guys at the Game Developer Conference (2010) talk to the person who designed and built the gun. This is a bit redundant due to the link on the main page already, but I believe it gives more background info. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/03/just-what-you-see-the-story-behind-the-45-long-slide-laser-siting.ars --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 15:02, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== The Uzi ==
I have read in a biography of Arnold that the Uzi used in the film was borrowed from a federal agency as they were the only ones with full auto Uzi's in those days. Would anyone care to confirm that information? [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]]
:Baloney. Federal Agency Uzis would NOT be "Hollywood blank adapted", i.e. barrel tapped and a BFA screwed into the barrel interior for hot movie blanks. I've seen Federal Law enforcement train sometimes with commercial 'weak' blanks, and I've seen those military 9mm blanks, but they're nothing close to full flash movie blanks. Also military and Law enforcement tend to use external 'attachable' blank firing adaptors so that the weapon can be quickly rendered back into active service. Also the film was made in 1984. The movie industry had no problem getting Uzis by that time. The Movie [[Stripes]] shot in 1980, released in 1981 has MAC-10s disguised as Uzis and some legitimate Uzis as well. MPM2008
::Actually the weapon Arnie used was directly provided by Action Arms which, at the time, was the primary provider of the full auto Uzi, and its' semi-auto siblings, during the 80s in the US. In addition, and if memory serves, Schwarzenegger was presented with an Uzi by the owner of Action Arms after the success of the film. Action Arms also provided him with the training in the weapon's use and maintenance. A clearer history can be found here.

::http://files.uzitalk.com/reference/pages/actionarms.htm

::Part way down, and next to a pic of Mitch Kalter, AA's spokesperson at the time, is a summary of the Uzi's use in the film. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 09:08, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Was there was not a ban on Uzis in California at the time?--[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 23:26, 16 November 2014 (EST)
Nope, at the time you could own just about any firearm you wanted. I'm not sure when California restricted the ownership of machineguns to those "with need" but Nationally the manufacture of civilian machineguns was not until 1986 when William Hughes put his little amendment into an otherwise good firearms law.In 1989 California passed it's bullshit "assault weapons" ban that did nothing to control crime but meant that one could no longer own an Uzi in California with out it being registered with the state. I used to live there and I am glad I live in a state where I can own any firearm I can afford. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 04:53, 17 November 2014 (EST)

==Pipe bomb pics==
Uzi870, despite the practices of some of the other users, it is not necessary to put so many pics of the pipe bombs, especially shots where we don't see the actual weapon, but only the aftermath. At this point it is just RETELLING the movie rather than identifying the weapon. As an admin I tend to delete images which belabor the point and don't even show the weapons in the section. Please try to use some discipline when doing screenshots. Pipe bombs, like IEDs, are not standard enough weapons to merit a page on the gun category, and no viewer would 'wonder what make and model' pipe bomb was used. Thanks. MPM2008

== Comment ==
I agree about the G3 being a good choice. If someone were to put one into the Terminator's head they could maybe kill it.- S&Wshooter

: I think most of the guns the rebels use in the terminator movies could destroy terminators.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:00, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Unless the G3 was supposed to be some sort of plasma rifle, it would serve little purpose other than to chase off unwanted survivors.

Well in Terminator Salvation we see that the T-600s are vulnerable to 7.62mm rounds as Connor kills one with an M60 and another shoots it's own leg off with a Minigun. Hell in the opening scene, John puts one down point blank with 5.56mm rounds, which do nothing against the T-800 later in the film, or the one from the first film.

:In Salvation, the T-600 he put down point blank with 5.56mm rounds was already damaged. Since it was pinned down by the Huey he could get a straight shot right where the CPU was located. The one he shot with the M60 it's legs where gone, but otherwise functional. The T-800 at the end of the film, maybe it had better steel? But it was most likely for dramatic effect, the rounds having no effect. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
::The T-600s are primitive compared to the later Terminators, and their cybernetic cortex is actually exposed to damage, which is a design flaw Skynet later corrected. And T-800s are made of "hyperalloy," not steel - what hyperalloy is depends on the terminator in question; earlier models were made of titanium alloy, with later models are supposed to be constructed of coltan, which doesn't make sense since a) coltan is black, while terminators are very shiny like chromed steel, and b) coltan is an ore, not an alloy, from which one can extract niobium and tantalum. Kyle Reese describes the T-800 as being "fully armored" and "very tough;" T-800s are regularly demonstrated completely shrugging off small arms fire. It's not so much that the T-800 was suddenly invincible for dramatic effect, since three movies (along with video games and comics and novels and so on) have demonstrated that most small arms do little to the infiltrator cyborgs beyond slowing them down. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 11:42, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== Poorly trained police officers ==

Sarah Conner was shown body armour in the police station. But when the Terminator began his killing spree, police officers were seen passing out M16A1 assault rifles but no body armour. Why's that??
::Also you're assessing their police tactics with what police do ... TODAY. Heavy duty body armor was NOT common practice back in the day. And in the early 1980s many cops had only the lightweight Threat level II undershirt vests and only at certain times. The 1980s and 1990s changed A LOT of police tactics (some for the better, some for the worse (like how they treat suspects even if they are cooperating))[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:22, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

It was unexpected attack so they only had time to grab rifle. by the time they got the vests on it wouldn't matter becuse the terminator would have find. the body armor police have are probably not military grade so they wont stop round form the AR-18.

:The body armor that Lt. Traxler gave Sarah looked pretty good. It didn't look like it was handgun rated only. He did commented in the film that "it will stop a 12 gauge round", he didn't say anything about rifles though. But as the second poster said it was an unexpected attack, I mean who attacks a police station? Only the terminator. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:37, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I also recalled that there were 30 police officers in the station and that 17 of them were murdered by the Terminator, were the rest of the officers were hiding throughout the entire killing spree??
:The other 13 may have just been wounded. Det. Vukovich showed up in an early draft of T3, wheelchair-bound. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 21:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out.

Something that always bothered me was how Traxler and Vukovich talked about Body Armor but
were apparently killed by the Terminator. I assumed they were wearing it under their shirts.

In a Deleted Scene, Traxler briefly survived his wounds and handed a 6 shooter to Reese.
And as Noted above, Vukovich was to survive his wounds too but was bound to a wheelchair.

Though I suppose the writers thought it was a little far-fetched, considering he received some 5.56 rounds and some 12 gauge buckshot from the Terminator.

==Trigger Discipline==

In the screenshot in which Kyle is playfully aiming his Valmet M82A at a child, shouldn't it be mentioned that he still has his finger on the trigger? [[Special:Contributions/193.1.104.2|193.1.104.2]] 02:38, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:No, http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Rules%2C_Standards_and_Principles#No_sarcastic_or_insulting_Commentary Also in the screenshot where he does it, I'm not sure if the gun goes up any further. If that's the case he's pointing at the floor, the weapon could be on safe too.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 10:38, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bullets on the counter at gunstores ==

I went to my local Cabela's and apparently they started to put SOME, like small stacks of pistol ammo on the counters now [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:27, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:Never understood why the Terminator bothered to load the weapon at all while the gunshop owner just stood there protesting like a nimrod. The thing is freakishly strong (I wonder why it didn't cart off the gigantic anti-tank rifle... maybe they don't keep 20x138mm shells in stock...) and could have just punched him in the head and it would have been fatal. Hell, it could have just crushed his windpipe - Terminators don't seem to care about being very subtle anyway. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 11:47, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

::Quite likely the Terminator wasn't loading the shotgun to specifically kill the store owner - after all it doesn't eliminate everything it sees - but rather to have its newfound arsenal immediately ready for action. Only after the store owner protests said action does he become a perceived threat to the mission, conveniently neutralized with the now-loaded shotgun already in its hands. -- Fin- 14:24, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

:::Or he just wanted to be sure it worked. [[User:Vangelis2|Vangelis2]] 03:02, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

== Police Station Attack ==

The Terminator is shot by Police and sometimes reacts to the shots by flinching slightly, probably the bullet impacts. However, He doesnt respond at all to the M16 fire by Traxler and Vukovich. '''Would the .38 Special be more powerful than a 5.56mm?'''

simply said...No. A .38 spcl only have about 200 foot pounds of energy and the 5.56 has 1,300 foot pounds of energy.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 00:39, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

==Story incongruencies==
Anyone else note how the short bit of story on the cover doesn't match completely up with the in movie story? The bit on the cover makes it seem like humans in the future thought John Connor a threat and therefore created the Terminator for the sole reason of going back in time to kill Sarah Connor. [[User:T.H.M.Christensen|T.H.M.Christensen]] 01:10, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

In terms of story,the Rulers in question are the machines. [[Special:Contributions/24.15.51.1|24.15.51.1]] 01:19, 29
December 2010 (UTC)

*Also bear in mind that the people who write the tagline haven't necessarily seen the movie. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 12:26, 7 March 2011 (MSK)

== Gun Store ==

In the Gun Store, The Terminator is looking down at something when naming his Guns, probably a Catalogue? I just wondered why The Terminator would pick the AMT Hardballer with a Long Slide and Laser Sight? Surely The Terminator could calculate the angle of his arm and shoot on target from the hip, right?

I remember reading something similar to this somewhere. Basically, it was answered in the fact that the Terminator will take any advantage he can get. If, without the laser, he's accurate 99% of the time, but with the laster he's accurate 99.1% of the time, that's what he'll use. Also, it could be possible that simply putting the laser on the target is faster than calculating the angle. -SasquatchJim

*This assumes the Terminator is actually designed to use ballistic weaponry even though Skynet's standard issue weapon for them is a line-of-sight energy gun. A fire control computer isn't much use if it doesn't have data for the weapon in it already, and the laser as an aiming aid would mean he didn't have to waste time firing off rounds at a wall to calculate the trajectories as a baseline. One imagines he's gathering practical data on any given weapon while he's using it. A lot of people assume Terminators are ''magic'', but they don't really show any super-human aiming skills aside from the T-101 in ''T2'' deliberately not killing anyone with the M79 and minigun. [[User:Vangelis2|Vangelis2]] 03:00, 22 March 2011 (CDT)

Or maybe because lasers were not well known of at the time they wanted something cool and futuristic looking? Also it helps build up the tension in the Tech Noir scene where you see the laser dot on Sarah's head. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 16:23, 3 April 2011 (CDT)

== HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE SPOILER ==

The last image on the page (pipe bomb section) is an awesome spoiler. I really think it should be removed. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 15:54, 9 June 2011 (CDT)
:And it doesn't actually show the pipe bomb, which you can argue doesn't belong on the page anyway. The code is below. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:03, 9 June 2011 (CDT)
:Also, I'm pretty sure the statute of limitations on spoilers about 30-year-old classic action movies runs out when the sequel is released.

== RSB-80 ==

Given its size relative to the gunner and Franco Columbu (one of Arnold's body-building buddies) the RSB-80 looks more like an [[Browning_M2#Browning_M2_Aircraft | M2 Aircraft]]. Anyone mind if I change it? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 14:06, 31 October 2011 (CDT)
:Franco is only 5'-5". But looking at the screenshot, it appears to have spade grips, which the 1919 doesn't have. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:19, 31 October 2011 (CDT)
::You can get after market modification to give the M1919 spade grips, and there was also the flexible mount aircraft version that had spade grips, which is confusingly called the AN/M2. I don't think it is an M2, as the actual receiver of the gun is only about as long as his forearm, it just has a very thick and long barrel shroud. Also, from the way he is swinging it around so quickly and accurately I would be very surprised if it was an M2HB, no matter how strong he is. Im not 100% it is a real gun, as I don't think it is actually firing in the scene: no cases are ejected and when he pushed the trigger there is absolutely zero recoil. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 16:51, 31 October 2011 (CDT)

I'm offering Chuck Bronson as a comparison. Chuck is listed on IMDB as 5'10". Franco is listed at 5'5". It still looks substantially bigger, IMHO. Columbu had been Mr. Universe two years prior to filming, so I think he could've pulled it off. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 17:49, 31 October 2011 (CDT)
[[Image:DW419196.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Charles Bronson with an M1919.]]
[[Image:T1_Bunker.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Franco Columbu with the RSB-80.]]

To me the only size difference appears to be the barrel in those screenshots, so they could have just put a barrel extension. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 02:04, 1 November 2011 (CDT)

:To my eye the reciever looks a fair bit larger compared to Columbu's torso than the M1919 looks compared to Bronson's. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:15, 1 November 2011 (CDT)
::And Columbu would have a larger torso as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 09:56, 1 November 2011 (CDT)

More shots:

[[Image:T1-HMG-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:T1-HMG-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
Is that a cocking handle? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 09:56, 1 November 2011 (CDT)
:No, that's the underside. Looks more like a pintle rod. There's a big cocking handle on the right-hand side, you can see it in the image above. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 10:11, 1 November 2011 (CDT)
[[Image:T1-HMG-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:T1-HMG-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

You can see some flashes that don't look added coming from the muzzle (as in that first shot), but I think it's probably just a "gas gun" rather than actually firing blanks. He's really just waving it around and shaking it slightly to act like the recoil is affecting him, it's very obvious the gun itself isn't doing a lot. Also, watching that scene a lot of times has made me spot another Uzi. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:47, 1 November 2011 (CDT)

:Incidentally, going back through the history an older ID was that it might be a Vickers gun. Fairly sure the barrel is in the wrong place for that, though. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 06:26, 1 November 2011 (CDT)

==1991 DOS game and others==
I'm wondering, is it possible to write about all the videogames, based on this movie? Each of them has realistic firearms, even the hand-held game from 1988. 1991 Dos game is still pretty unique, though and I wanted to ask for opinion - is it possible to write different articles in different versions (especially since they were released ad developed separately by different companies)? --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] ([[User talk:Kloga|talk]]) 13:50, 1 December 2013 (EST)
:Games from back then usually aren't eligible because the graphics are good enough to ID the guns. If you really want to do it, please provide a sample first. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 16:30, 1 December 2013 (EST)

M134 Minigun

2014-09-26T10:37:02Z

Rockwolf66: /* Television */ added TV show

[[Image:GeneralElectricM134MinigunOriginalSpadeGripMount.jpg|thumb|right|400px|General Electric M134 with first pattern spade grip mount and crosshair sights. Note the lack of flash suppressor and three disked barrel cluster - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

The '''M134 Minigun''' is a six-barreled, electrically-driven rotary gun originally designed by General Electric. Essentially a miniaturized version of the 20mm [[M61 Vulcan]] chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO, it was originally designed during the Vietnam War to provide a high-volume-of-fire weapon suitable for mounting on helicopters. Boasting a fire rate of up to 6,000 rounds per minute, the minigun proved far more capable than any single-barreled weapon in this role and, through numerous updates, remains in it to this day.

A distinctive invention of fiction is the hand-held M134 minigun, a concept which was popularized by the film ''[[Predator]]''. Physically demanding even for a slowed-down minigun firing blanks, such a weapon would be impossible for a human being to either carry or operate. This fact has not stopped it appearing frequently in other works, especially in video games. Generally such depictions will totally ignore the weapon's need for external power, and sometimes even forget it requires a source of ammunition.

'''The M134 Minigun and variants can be seen in the following films, television series, video games, and anime used by the following actors:'''

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== GE M134 Minigun ==
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|right|400px|General Electric M134 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:SUU.jpg|thumb|right|400px|GE M134 Minigun in an SUU-11/A gunpod - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
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|-
| ''[[Sharknado]]'' || || || Mounted on a modified Hummer || 2013
|-
| ''[[White House Down]]'' || Channing Tatum || John Cale || Mounted on a Chevrolet Suburban SUV || 2013
|-
| ''[[Battleship (2012)|Battleship]]'' || [[Rihanna]] || Raikes || Garwood Industries upgraded GE M134's mounted on rigid inflatable boat || 2012
|-
| ''[[Iron Man 2]]'' || [[Sam Rockwell]] || Justin Hammer || ||2010
|-
| ''[[Terminator Salvation]]'' || || || Mounted either side of tow truck cab ||2009
|-
| ''[[X-Men Origins: Wolverine]]'' || || || Mounted on UH-1 helicopter ||2009
|-
| ''[[The Incredible Hulk]]'' || || || Mounted on a helicopter, (continuity error)||2008
|-
| ''[[The Dark Knight]]'' || || || Used to fire pistol rounds to study how bullets shatter ||2008
|-
| ''[[Death Race]]'' || || || Mounted on "The Dreadnought" ||2008
|-
| ''[[Death Race]]'' || || || Mounted on "The Monster" 2006 Ford Mustang GT ||2008
|-
| ''[[Death Race]]'' || || || Mounted on Carson's Pontiac Trans AM ||2008
|-
| ''[[Death Race]]'' || || || Mounted on Siad' BMW E32, fitted with oversized slotted flash suppressor||2008
|-
| ''[[Transformers]]'' || || || Tiny version produced by feral transformer ||2007
|-
| ''[[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]]'' || [[Angelina Jolie]] || Jane Smith || Unrated Cut ||2005
|-
| ''[[Alone in the Dark (2005)|Alone in the Dark ]]'' || || || On tripod ||2005
|-
| ''[[Jarhead]]'' || || || UH-1 Huey Gunship ||2005
|-
| ''[[Dreamcatcher]]'' || || || AH-6 Little Bird Helicopter ||2003
|-
| ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]'' || || T-1 robots || Oversized non-functional prop weapons ||2003
|-
| ''[[XXX|xXx]]'' || || || Included in a display of weaponry which will be mounted on Xander's car ||2003
|-
| ''[[Die Another Day]]'' || [[Rick Yune]] || Zao || Mounted in Jaguar car ||2002
|-
| ''[[We Were Soldiers]]'' || [[Greg Kinnear]] || Major Bruce 'Snake' Crandall || UH-1H Huey Gunships, also seen displayed on a table ||2002
|-
| ''[[Behind Enemy Lines]]'' || || || USMC UH-1 Huey Gunships ||2001
|-
| ''[[The Matrix]]'' || [[Keanu Reeves]] || Neo || Mounted on a Bell 212 Helicopter ||1999
|-
| ''[[Point Blank (1998)|Point Blank]]'' || [[Michael Wright]] || Sonny || ||1998
|-
| ''[[Tomorrow Never Dies]]'' || || || MH-53 Pave Low Helicopter ||1997
|-
| ''[[Last Action Hero]]'' || || || Extremely short barrels ||1993
|-
| ''[[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]]'' || || Future War Resistance Soldier || Not the same as the handheld weapon used later (see below) ||1991
|-
| ''[[RoboCop 2]]'' || || RoboCop 2 / RoboCain unit || || 1990
|-
| ''[[Fire Birds]]'' || || || AH-1 Cobra Helicopters ||1990
|-
| ''[[Red Scorpion]]'' || || || Soviet "Hind" Helicopter ||1989
|-
| ''[[Rambo III]]'' || || || Soviet "Hind" Helicopter ||1988
|-
| ''[[Predator]]'' || || Helicopter gunner || UH-1 Huey Helicopter (see below for handheld version) ||1987
|-
| ''[[The Running Man]]'' || || || UH-1 Huey Gunship, stock footage from ''[[King Kong (1976)|King Kong]]''||1987
|-
| ''[[Heartbreak Ridge]]'' || || || USMC UH-1 Huey Gunships ||1986
|-
| ''[[Top Gun]]'' || || || Mounted in fictional MiG-28 (possible substitute for [[M61 Vulcan]] ||1986
|-
| ''[[Rambo: First Blood Part II]]'' || || POW || Bell 212 Helicopter||1985
|-
| ''[[Coordinates of Death (Koordinaty smerti)]]'' || || U.S Army helicopter gunners || First pattern models; mounted on UH-1 Huey helicopters ||1985
|-
| ''[[Red Dawn]]'' || || || Seen in wreckage ||1984
|-
| ''[[Apocalypse Now]]'' || || Helicopter gunner || UH-1 Huey Gunship ||1979
|-
| ''[[The Odd Angry Shot]]'' || || || UH-1 Huey Gunship ||1979
|-
| ''[[King Kong (1976)|King Kong]]'' || || || UH-1 Huey Gunship ||1976
|-
| ''[[The Green Berets]]'' || || || AC-47 Gunship ||1968
|-
|}

=== Television ===
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Guns]]'' || || || ||
|-
| ''[[Quantum Leap]]'' || || || ||
|-
| ''[[Mythbusters]]''|| || ||(S5E22; "Shooting Fish in a Barrel") ||
|-
|''[[Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman]]'' || || ||Mounted on a test army vehicle(episode "Operation Blackout") ||
|-
| ''[[Future Weapons]]'' || || || ||
|-
| ''[[Ultimate Weapons]]'' || || || ||
|-
| ''[[Iris - Season 1]]'' || ||Hungarian secret service ||mounted on UH-1 || 2009
|-
| ''[[Revolution (TV Series)|Revolution]]'' || || ||Mounted on Bell-UH1 || 2012-2013
|}

=== Anime ===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="400"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Flag]]'' || || Attached to VTOL transport vehicles || 2006
|-
|''[[Starship Operators]]'' || AGI guards || Fitted with shields || 2005
|-
| ''[[Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex 2nd Gig|Ghost in the Shell S.A.C. 2nd GIG]]'' || Tachikoma think-tank || Extremely short barrels || 2004
|-
| ''[[Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex]]'' || Tachikoma think-tank || Extremely short barrels || 2002
|}

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="350"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Dead Island Riptide]]'' || || || 2013
|-
| ''[[Ghost Recon: Future Soldier]]'' || Ghosts, rebels, Watchgate PMC || Mounted on Black Hawk helicopters, also as stationary turrets || 2012
|-
| ''[[Project Reality: Vietnam]]'' || || Mounted on UH-1C Huey helicopters in M21 armament subsystem || 2012
|-
| ''[[Ace Combat: Assault Horizon]]'' || || Mounted on MH-60L Black Hawk helicopters || 2011
|-
| ''[[Bodycount]]'' || || Oversized M134-based gatlings mounted on enemy helicopters || 2011
|-
| ''[[Battlefield Play4Free]]'' || || Mounted on Black Hawk helicopters || 2011
|-
| ''[[Crysis 2]]'' || || Mounted on helicopters, trailers only || 2011
|-
| ''[[Dead Rising 2]]'' || Soldiers || || 2010
|-
| ''[[Just Cause 2]]'' || Rico Rodriguez, Alexander Mirkov, enemy soldiers || Mounted on military helicopters, fighters, land vehicles and motor torpedo boats || 2010
|-
| ''[[Left 4 Dead 2]]'' || || "Minigun." Mounted on a monopod, can overheat, 2010 DLC map No Mercy only || 2009
|-
| ''[[Conduit, The|The Conduit]]'' || || Mounted on National Guard helicopters || 2009
|-
| ''[[Resident Evil 5]]'' || Sheva Alomar || Mounted on the back of a HMMWV || 2009
|-
| ''[[F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin]]'' || Armacham soldiers || mounted on helicopters || 2009
|-
| ''[[Left 4 Dead]]'' || || "Minigun." Mounted on a monopod, can overheat || 2008
|-
| ''[[Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3]]'' || || || 2008
|-
| ''[[Crysis|Crysis Warhead]]'' || Michael "Psycho" Sykes, enemies || ''Crysis''' portable Hurricane is fictional, but ''Warhead's'' mounted guns are clearly M134s with minimal changes || 2008
|-
| ''[[Devil_May_Cry_Series#Devil_May_Cry_4|Devil May Cry 4]]'' || Dante || "Pandora;" elaborate semi-portable ground mounting, used in the air anyway; shortened M134 barrels with one of the front clamps missing || 2008
|-
| ''[[F.E.A.R.]]'' || || Door guns on Black Hawk helicopters || 2005
|-
| ''[[Battlefield 2]]'' || || Mounted on Black Hawk helicopters || 2005
|-
| ''[[Project Reality]]'' || || Mounted on Black Hawk and Little Bird helicopters || 2005
|-
| ''[[The Matrix: Path of Neo]]'' ||Neo || Mounted on helicopter ||2005
|-
| ''[[Ghost Recon: Island Thunder]]'' || || mounted on Black Hawk || 2003
|-
| ''[[Shinobi]]'' || Hiruko (via magic) || Mounted in SUU-11/A gunpods on posessed Black Hawk helicopter || 2002
|-
| ''[[007: Nightfire]]'' || || Available in multiplayer mode only, and with certain weapon sets || 2002
|-
|}
 

==Dillon Aero M134 Minigun==
[[Image:Minigun.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Dillon Aero M134 with flash suppressor - 7.62x51mm NATO. These are new model M134 Miniguns or just updated GE Miniguns which are usually seen with a different spade grip mount that were used during the Vietnam War.]]
[[Image:DAM134DT.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Dillon Aero M134D-H (H stands for Hybrid) combines the titanium and skeletonized parts that were engineered for use in the M134D-T minigun with the steel housing of the previous M134D - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
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|-
| ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon]]'' || || || Mounted on roof of Autobot Wreckers #42, fitted with GE barrel clamp || 2011
|-
| ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon]]'' || || || Mounted in grill of Autobot Wreckers #88, fitted with GE barrel clamp || 2011
|-
| ''[[The A-Team (2010)|The A-Team]]'' || || || Mounted on V-22 Osprey||2010
|-
| ''[[Terminator Salvation]]'' || || || Mounted on T-600's right arm ||2009
|-
| ''[[G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra]]'' || [[Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje]] || "Heavy Duty" || Handheld ||2009
|-
| ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]'' || || NEST soldier || Handheld, lightweight titanium model ||2009
|-
| ''[[The Incredible Hulk]]'' || || Helicopter gunner || Mounted on a helicopter, used to shoot at The Abomination ||2008
|-
| ''[[The Kingdom]]'' || || || Mounted on a Saudi helicopter ||2007
|-
|}

=== Television ===
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Lock 'n Load with R. Lee Ermey]]'' || [[R. Lee Ermey]] || Himself || Mounted on Humvee||2010
|-
| ''[[Ultimate Weapons]]'' || || Operator || Mounted on helicopters||2010
|-
|}

===Video Games===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Shadow Harvest: Phantom Ops]]'' || || || used as the icon of a modded [[M60]] || 2011
|-
| ''[[Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising]]'' || || || Door-mounted on MH-60S Seahawk, primary armament of AH-6J Little Bird || 2009
|-
| ''[[Terminator Salvation (VG)|Terminator Salvation]]'' || T-600 Terminators || not usable|||| 2009
|-
|}

 

 

== General Dynamics GAU-17/A ==

[[Image:GAU-17A HH60.jpg|thumb|right|400px|General Dynamics GAU-17/A, US Air Force version of the M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

The USAF version of the M134, fitted with a slotted flash hider.
=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[White House Down]]'' || || || Mounted on a MH-60L Black Hawk || 2013
|-
| ''[[Act of Valor]]'' || || US Navy SEALs || Mounted on Special Operation Craft - Riverine || 2012
|-
| ''[[Iron Man 2]]'' || [[Don Cheadle]] || Lt. Col. Rhodes || Miniaturised version, mounted on the "War Machine"|| 2010
|-
| ''[[Terminator Salvation]]'' || || || Mounted on Pave Hawk helicopter ||2009
|-
| ''[[G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra]]'' || || || Mounted on MH-60L Black Hawks. Footage taken from ''[[Black Hawk Down]]''. ||2009
|-
| ''[[Black Hawk Down]]'' || || US Army soldiers || Mounted on MH-60L Black Hawk and AH-6 Little Bird helicopters ||2001
|-
|}

===Video Games===

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="600"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
|''[[Spec Ops: The Line]] || Walker || || 2012
|-
| ''[[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3]]'' || Derek "Frost" Westbrook, Yuri, others || Mounted on Black Hawk helicopter, incorrectly mounted on M1A1 Abrams, also seen as part of "M5 sentry turret" rig || 2011
|-
| ''[[Medal of Honor (2010)|Medal of Honor]]'' ||SPC. Dante Adams || mounted on Chinook helicopter|| 2010
|-
| ''[[Splinter Cell: Conviction]]'' || || Mounted in remote turrets || 2010
|-
| ''[[X-Men Origins: Wolverine (VG)|X-Men Origins: Wolverine]]''|| || As an automated turret; unusable ||2009
|-
| ''[[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2]]'' || Joseph Allen || Mounted on HMMWV: also seen in various other locations and as the weapon of fictional "M5 sentry turret" rig || 2009
|-
| ''[[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]]'' || "Soap" McTavish, Black Hawk door gunner || Mounted on helicopters || 2007
|-
| ''[[Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter]]'' || NPCs || Mounted on helicopters || 2006
|-
| ''[[Battlefield 2]]'' || || Mounted on AH-6 Little Bird helicopters || 2005
|-
| ''[[America's Army]]'' || || Door-mounted on a UH-60 Black Hawk || 2002
|-
| ''[[SOCOM 4: US Navy SEALs]]'' || || Door-mounted on helicopters || 2011
|}

 

== Hand Held M134 Minigun ==
[[Image:Minigun 1.JPG|thumb|right|400px|"Ol' Painless" Handheld M134 Minigun with [[M60 machine gun|M60]] Handguard, as seen in ''[[Predator]]'' - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

[[Image:Minigun 2.JPG|thumb|right|400px|'''Airsoft''' handheld M134 Minigun with 'Chainsaw grip' to handle the recoil force. This variant was seen in ''[[Terminator 2: Judgment Day]]''. This is an airsoft version which retains the half-circle attachment point for the M60 foregrip from ''Predator''; the real T2 minigun did not have this - (fake) 7.62x51mm NATO]]

=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="400"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Captain America: The Winter Soldier]]'' || || HYDRA agent || || 2014
|-
| ''[[Expendables 3, The|The Expendables 3]]'' || [[Terry Crews]] || Hale Caesar || || 2014
|-
| ''[[Kill Zombie!]]'' || [[Sergio Hasselbaink]] || Jeffrey || non-functional prop || 2012
|-
| ''[[Predators]]'' || [[Oleg Taktarov]] || Nikolai || (substituting for a GShG-7.62) || 2010
|-
| ''[[G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra]]''|| [[Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje]] || Heavy Duty ||(M134DT minigun by Dillion Aero)|| 2009
|-
| ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]'' ||||N.E.S.T. soldier || (M134DT minigun by Dillion Aero) ||2009
|-
| ''[[Resident Evil: Apocalypse]]'' ||[[Matthew G. Taylor]] ||Nemesis || gauntlet mounted Minigun customized with short barrels and an aluminum housing || 2004
|-
| ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]'' || [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] || The Terminator || Pulled from T-1 robot and held by mounting; oversized non-functional prop ||2003
|-
| ''[[A Man Apart]]'' ||George Sharperson||Big Sexy|||| 2003
|-
|''[[Tomorrow Never Dies]]'' ||||||Seen on gun rack ||1997
|-
| ''[[Soldier]]''|| [[Kurt Russell]] || Sgt. Todd || (short-barrel commando version)||1997
|-
| ''[[Best of the Best 3: No Turning Back]]'' || Mark Rolston|| Donnie Hansen ||(short-barrel commando version)|| 1995
|-
| ''[[Terminator 2: Judgment Day]]'' ||[[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] || The Terminator || || 1991
|-
| ''[[Scrooged]]'' ||[[Lee Majors]] || Himself ||[[M60 machine gun|M60]]-style handguard || 1988
|-
| ''[[Predator]]'' ||[[Bill Duke]] || Sgt. Mac || [[M60 machine gun|M60]]-style handguard|| 1987
|-
| ''[[Predator]]'' ||[[Jesse Ventura]] || Blain || [[M60 machine gun|M60]]-style handguard|| 1987
|}

=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="400"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Chuck - Season 3]]'' || [[Adam Baldwin]] || Colonel John Casey || || 2010
|-

| ''[[JAG - Season 3]]'' || [[Dennis Burkley]] || Jungle Larry || || 1997-1998
|}

=== Anime ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="400"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Asobi ni Ikuyo: Bombshells from the Sky]]'' || Manami || With T2-style chainsaw grip || 2010
|-
| ''[[Black Lagoon]]'' || Lobos' henchmen || With T2-style chainsaw grip || 2006
|-
| ''[[Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex]]''|| Batou || With dual ammo pods mounted underneath || 2002
|-
| ''[[Excel Saga]]''|| Menchi || With T2-style chainsaw grip || 1999
|-
| ''[[Cowboy Bebop]]'' || Mobsters || || 1998
|-
| ''[[Kurogane Communication]]''|| Sone || Modelled after the M134 used in ''[[Predator]]'' || 1998
|-
| ''[[Spriggan]]''|| Fatman || Mounted to character's arm with T2-style overhead front grip || 1998
|-
| ''[[Kochikame]]'' || Jodie Karen || Based on ECHO 1 airsoft gun, with stick magazine on right hand side || 1996
|-
| ''[[Sword Art Online II]]'' || "Behemoth" || || 2014
|}

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#DOE7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="600"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Call of Duty: Ghosts]]'' |||||| 2013
|-
| ''[[Grand Theft Auto V]]'' |||||| 2013
|-
| ''[[The Showdown Effect]]'' || || || 2013
|-
| ''[[Call of Duty: Black Ops II]]'' |||||| 2012
|-
| ''[[Uncharted: Golden Abyss]]'' ||Nate, Heavy Troopers ||five barrels only || 2011
|-
| ''[[Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D]]'' || Gatling Gun Majini || || 2011
|-
| ''[[Serious Sam 3: BFE]]'' || Sam "Serious" Stone || "XM-214-A" || 2011
|-
| ''[[Call of Duty: Black Ops]]'' || Alex Mason || Referred to as "Death Machine". Heavily altered with custom barrel clamps, offset front grip, ejects up and to left || 2010
|-
| ''[[Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker]]''||||||2010
|-
| ''[[Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light]]'' || Lara Croft, Totec || || 2010
|-
| ''[[Just Cause 2]]'' || Rico Rodriguez, enemy soldiers || Mounted and used by enemies, but can be detached and carried by player. T2-style chainsaw grip. No ammo drum when carried || 2010
|-
| ''[[Uncharted 2: Among Thieves]]'' || Nathan Drake, heavy soldier (boss enemy) || Called "GAU-19" and with GAU-19 pickup icon but M134 model, shown with only five barrels || 2009
|-
| ''[[Resident Evil 5]]'' || Chris Redfield, Gatling Gun Majini (boss enemy) || With large ammo backpack || 2009
|-
| ''[[Fallout 3]]'' || || || 2008
|-
| ''[[Saints Row 2]]'' || || || 2008
|-
| ''[[Mercenaries 2: World in Flames]]''||Mercenaries||mounted on various vehicles||2008
|-
| ''[[Combat Arms]]'' || || With T2-style chainsaw grip || 2008
|-
| ''[[Counter-Strike Online]]'' || || "Vulcan machine gun", now also has "Christmas Special" and "Upgraped version" || 2009
|-
| ''[[Army Of Two]]'' || Eliot Salem, Tyson Rios, Ali Yousef (enemy) || Has half-circle attachment point for ''Predator'' M60 foregrip, but not the grip itself; presumably based on the airsoft version pictured above || 2008
|-
| ''[[Team Fortress 2]]'' || The Heavy || "Sasha" and "Natasha," both with large ammunition drum mounted to the weapon || 2007
|-
| ''[[STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl]]'' || Marked One || Only present in leaked alpha from 2003: removed from final game. Released build 1935 includes textures but no weapon model. || 2007
|-
| ''[[Driver: Parallel Lines]]'' || || || 2006
|-
| ''[[Shadow the Hedgehog]]'' || Shadow the Hedgehog, GUN Walkers (enemies) || Mounted on walkers, only carried by Shadow || 2005
|-
| ''[[Serious Sam 2]]'' || Serious Sam, enemies || "XM-214-A" || 2005
|-
| ''[[Resident Evil 4]]'' || JJ (boss enemy) || With large ammo backpack || 2005
|-
| ''[[GoldenEye: Rogue Agent]]'' || "GoldenEye" || "Predator MG" || 2004
|-
| ''[[GTA: San Andreas]]'' || Carl Johnson || "Minigun" || 2004
|-
| ''[[Serious Sam: Next Encounter]]'' || Sam "Serious" Stone || "XM4000", re-chambered to fire 9mm bullets || 2004
|-
| ''[[Hitman: Contracts]]'' || Agent 47 || "Minigun" || 2004
|-
| ''[[Far Cry]]''|| Jack Carver, enemy mercenaries || Mounted, but with T2-style chainsaw grip || 2004
|-
| ''[[GTA: Vice City]]'' || Tommy Vercetti || "Minigun" || 2002
|-
| ''[[Serious Sam]]'' || || "XM-214-A" || various
|-
| ''[[Hitman: Codename 47]]'' || || || 2000
|-
| ''[[Resident Evil 3: Nemesis]]'' || || Only three barrels || 1999
|-
| ''[[Resident Evil 2]]'' || || Only three barrels|| 1998
|-
| ''[[Terminator 2 The Arcade Game]]'' || T-101, T-102 || Limited duration power-up || 1991
|-
| ''[[Operation Thunderbolt (video game)|Operation Thunderbolt]]'' || Eye patch terrorist || [[M60 machine gun|M60]]-style handguard, first hand held M134 Minigun in videogames || 1988
|}

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Machine Gun]]

User talk:Rockwolf66

2014-06-06T07:50:51Z

Rockwolf66: /* Highlander 2 */

==XXX==

Hi,

I notice you have changed the ''[[XXX]]'' page to say that the gun we called a B&T MP-9 is actually a Steyr TMP. What details identify it as a TMP and not an MP-9? I'm not saying you're wrong, just asking because I'd like to clarify further on the page itself. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:28, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Well the Steyr TMP does have a Factory made detachable stock. The particular weapon in XXX has such a stock on it. Said stock attaches to both the back of the receiver where the hing on the B&T MP-9's folding stock is and the lower rear of the rear pistol grip. http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/0400/439.htm
note that the stock on that TMP has no hinge to it. Still it's the best picture I can find on such stocks on the net.

==Re: Kriss Super V==

I already did a redirect once, but it seems someone undid it. I just did another redirect, we'll see if people leave it alone this time. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 20:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

== Gungrave ==

Um hi,

I know this is a very well organized site, and being a new contributing member I in no way wish to tarnish its incredible database. That said, I started a page, key word "started" a page for an anime titled Gungrave. Seeing as something is better than nothing and anyone can add to the page, may I suggest that in the future, only selective removals be done to the page's content. If you aren't going to contribute, and there are at least images from the show, with guns, hold back your delete key.

Thank you.

==AMT automag?==
You created a page we had already, so I deleted it. Please reference: http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=AMC_.44_Auto_Mag_Pistol

the AMC Automag Pistol is already on the gun page. AMC is correct since the FIRST company to create the gun was the Auto Mag Corp. in 1971. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:05, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
::All of the companies that built the Automag pistols after 1971 had nothing to do with the original Automag pistol. There were many incarnations of the Automag pistol. Also if the gun stemmed from the original design, then it belongs on that gun's page. It is arguable that the Cetme Ameli is a completely different design than the MG42, but it belongs on the MG42 page even though it fires a different cartridge and is built by a completely different manufacturer. BUT....I understand your reasoning. The later guns look more like mutant longslide 45s than the original Auto mag design. I always (probably a mistake on my part) thought that they were just funky 45 style slides on Automag style frames. This is definiteily something to think about and I will confer with the other admins and see what they think. Thanks for your input! :) It has caused quite a bit of thought regarding this handgun. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:34, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks for the gun reasoning==
Its' fascinating. The GUN does deserve mention, but I'm still wondering if they created it to exploit the Automag's market. Like the .22 caliber clones of the M16 or AK47. Their design is radically different and they were made just to exploit the popularity of a previous famous firearm. But we list the clones or 'copies' under the primary gun design page. I will need to look into it, but thank you! for bringing up some great gun historical info. I'm still perplexed since the gun seems to fall into a gray zone. I will check with the other admins and get their opinion. Do you have any access to any of the company's literature? Was it in any way designed after the original automag? MPM2008

==RE: Jacked Image==

He used to upload lots of images of experimental guns that we didn't need. And his pages are pretty much nothing but a quick list of gun names. He's been warned to stop. He's one of those dudes who just can't seem to avoid being annoying no matter what he does. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:00, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Enfield Enforcer Sniper Rifle ==
Done. Let me know if you need anything else, but I can't do anymore tonight. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Re: Request ==

I'll see what I can do. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 03:33, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

:I was just in the middle of putting pictures on the page like you asked, but your edit just totally wasted all the work I was doing. Do you want me to help with this page or not? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:38, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

== main page vandalism ==

Good work quickly getting rid of that nonsense that anonymous users have been putting in, I blocked our latest one. Also, good work on your pages, they look good! - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 22:30, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

== Quarantine ==

I would like to set the record straight on whether my images are not bootlegs from a cell phone, the reason they appear so is that the film was not recorded using a camera and tripod. The cameraman-Scott Percival (played by Steve Harris) is as mush appart of the movie as any other character since the film is shot to resemble a news reporter filming it (In fact the cameraman uses his camera to kill an infected). To this end, it is rather hard to get clean screencaps since the cameraman moves as much as the other characters do, sometimes the other characters run in front of the camera just as the action gets good. If someone can get better shots, than please do. I appreciate IMFDB for its professional appearance on each of its pages.

Right now I'm searching for images the film's site to use.

==Remington700P==
Since the PSS came FIRST, it is the one listed. The correct nomenclature should be the original designation with the notation that 'the model is later designated as the P' Also the Gun in the photo is a PSS (I know, it's mine) and also the PSS marked guns are the ones seen in all of the films so far. Thanks. MPM2008

==PSS==
Thanks for the update. Sorry I didn't know that someone else was changing all of the nomenclature to the NEW version (which is kinda like renaming ALL of the M1 Carbines to M2 Carbines, not a great example but you get the drift). I recently held a 700P up to my 700-PSS (which I bought in the early 1990s) (wow, that's older than most of our members!!!!) and was comparing that the barrels looked different in contours and thickness. My first comment was "wow, the PSS has a really FAT barrel" ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:35, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

==PSS==
Thanks for your help. As far as I know, the P model didn't exist all during the 1990s or at least I never saw one. All the rifles I've seen in movie armorer inventory have been the PSS model. The P model is what Remington offers NOW. But I am not calling myself a Remington Expert. All I know is that my guns and the guns I've Handled from ISS, Cinema Weaponry and Stembridge are all PSS marked models. :) Thanks [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

== Oh. Well, it's a shame. ==

I'd spent quite a bit of time getting that image of the Dragon edited to show what they did to the G36K to get to it, and other than the question of what the Falcon 2 is I couldn't really see many issues left with it. What's the policy on this site for fictional weapons loosely based on real ones? I have a stack of screencaps of FEAR 2 and Crysis I could easily upload to fill those articles in better, but I don't want to fill the server up with stuff some admin's going to end up deleting because it isn't how things work here.

Also, I do feel it worth noting that the Perfect Dark article used to be ''even worse'' than before I had a crack at it. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

==Pirates of the Caribean==
Don't blank the page, it's better than what is usually done when that page is made (which is blank typically). Flintlocks are weapons too, and I'll probably fill the page with screencaps in the future. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Everyone is sick of less-than-half-assed pages being made. I was just impressed because this is the first time the page was made as anything more than a blank page. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

== Articles that will never exist ==

Rather than removing them entirely, shouldn't we just remove the links to them and leave the titles as plain text? After all, the fact that we don't think something is worth a whole page doesn't mean that a weapon ''doesn't'' appear in it, and deliberately making articles incomplete seems an odd way of doing things. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 06:19, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

==Re:GAU-19==
Transformers 2 did have GAU-19. Their were several 3 barreled miniguns mounted on the trucks and vehicles so if it's not a GAU-19,then it's an M197 Vulcan. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 17:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Uzi magazines ==

I didn't put the text about the use of the double magazines preventing muzzle climb and all that stuff. User:Ronin2296 did. But I might check out uzitalk and see what bracket you're talking about. Thanks - [[User:Predator20|Predator20]]

== Don't blank pages. ==

If a page is bad, put the delete template on it, don't just blank it. It saves admins having to check the history to make sure the blanking isn't vandalism before they delete the page. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 14:12, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Guyver ==

I'm sorry if I went out of my way in creating the topic on the gun from Guyver.
It's just that I saw the vampire guns from Hellsing on there and they're pretty "ficticious Anime weapons".
The gun from Guyver is definitely worth mentioning and not all that unbelievable. [[User:Crosstop|Crosstop]]

==Re:==

I already warned them in the Discussion section. Glorifying terrorists makes IMFDB look bad. There's no way I'm going to tolerate this kind of shit. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

==You won't believe this==
Score! I've been holding off uploading these because I'm still waiting on an image for the [[Heartbreak Ridge]] page (their weapons are set up slightly differently) so I hope people will wait to update that page until I can get a good image for that page.

===Say Hello to My Little Friend!!!===
[[Scarface]] fans will crap in their pants. Got the ACTUAL '''screen used''' LITTLE FRIEND. Now I used black gaffers tape and taped two 30 round magazines together as best I could (to try to match the screenshots). Do you think that was smart? or should I just present it with a plain magazine? Anyway, I did that because I wanted people to see it as it was most seen in the movie (Wow that launcher is beat up, it's been 25 years after all since the movie was filmed!!!!) It is also the old launchers that were used before the Cobray 37mm launchers became prevalent.
[[Image:M16A1M203ScarfaceCombo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Tony Montanas' 'Little Friend' from the movie [[Scarface]] - Motion Picture Faux M203 launcher attached to M16A1 - 5.56mm/39mm]]

===Screen used Zabala Shotgun===
This IS the gun used by 'The Skull' [[Geno Silva]] to blast Tony Montana in the movie. I also included a closeup shot of the top of the gun to show the markings.
[[Image:SBS-Shotgun_Scarface.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Screen used side by side Spanish Zabala Shotgun from the movie [[Scarface]] - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:SBS-ShotgunTOP_Scarface.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Top of the Screen used side by side Spanish Zabala Shotgun from the movie [[Scarface]] - 12 gauge. Note manufacturer markings on the top of the shotgun.]]

===RUN! GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!!!===
Recognize this lovely? I've been waiting to get pics for the [[Predator]] page for a while. So many weapons have either been sold off or taken apart and reconfigured for other movies.
[[Image:M16M203PredatorCombo.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Motion Picture Faux M203 launcher attached to M16/SP1 Rilfe - 5.56mm/39mm. Configured as it appeared in the movie.]]

'''IMFDB is the only place in the WORLD, now that has these images. How cool is that?''' :) I got some screen used muskets from Last of the Mohicans (from private collections), which is interesting since I usually don't get many pre 1848 weapons.
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

==RE:==

Which other ones has he done that shouldn't be here? I kept a few of his pages because they were legit, but deleted a lot of the others that weren't firearms (or, where the props weren't built from firearms).

I'm about to slap him with a temporary ban. I've tried to get his attention several times now, and he has been ignoring me. And I don't like being ignored the way he's doing. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 19:13, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

==Army of Two: The 40th Day==
I can't get my hands on this game for now so it will be better if you screencap it.--[[User:SB2296|SB2296]] 06:06, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

== Predator Minigun Edits? ==

Any particular reason why you called my contributions bullshit and reverted Predator's Minigun section into the unformatted mess that it originally was? There was not one thing I added that is not blatantly obvious from simply looking at the weapon. If you need me to break it down for you, I can:

*The rear pistol grip from the gun does come from old style spade grips. Look at images of XM214s and old M134s and you will see identical grips to the one in Predator.

*The M60 handguard assembly is installed backwards. On an M60 machine gun it faces the other way.

*The XM214 has tapered barrels when compared to the M134 and only has two discs on its barrel clamp whereas a GE M134 barrel clamp has four discs.

*The ammo box and cover assembly is from an M23 armament system and the pack that Jesse wore was an ALICE frame pack.

*During wide shots Jesse is shown running around and moving without any cables trailing from the rear of the gun and no batteries present. During the firing shots you can see the cables in some shots. During non firing shots the chute is "upside" down on his weapon and his ammo box is oriented so that the chute attaches the bottom. In the firing shots, you can see that it is oriented "correctly."

Let me know if there are any other "bullshit" changes I made that would require me to talk to someone who has seen the weapon, and aren't simply obvious observations from watching the film or studying the weapon. You could have been a little bit more respectful and asked about whatever it was that you disagreed with so much instead of just declaring it all "bullshit" and erasing it, when I put some effort into that and everything I added was true.

Thanks for your time.

-Gau17

The recoil absorbers came from the following description from this page.

"An overhead shot of the M-134 mini-gun without its mount. The prominent "horns" are the recoil absorbers for the gun mount, while the tube at the rear is the third attachment point for the gun. The curved object at the top of the picture is a link chute for the stripped links and the feeder/delinker is immediately below it. The square patch near the center of the gun's receiver is the Safety Sector with its quick-release pins. The electric drive motor is located directly below the Safety Sector. Note the barrel clamps around the barrel cluster. Without the barrel clamps, the torque of the gun would warp the barrels and you'd have them looking like a banana peel. (Photo: US Army)"

http://www.warboats.org/mst2Bremmer/Stoner_ord_notes/stonerhtml/Mini-gun.htm

Those assemblies are definitely present on the Predator and T2 gun. A retired GMCM's word is good enough for this ENS, at least until a better source presents itself.

-Gau17

I had trouble getting this picture when I posted my above response, but I managed to snag it. Despite the reputation I may have made for myself when I made my first post, I don't make things up. There is always a reason for what I say, though, in some cases, it might be wrong, or a bad source. In retrospect, yes, the frame rate of films is too low in order to accurately count barrel rotations on a Minigun. Bad first impression maybe, but I hope you won't hold that over my head anymore while I post here.

http://www.imfdb.org/images/b/b1/Minigun_drawing.jpg

-Gau17

== Missing in Action ==

I didn't do too many more caps, so you can go ahead and finish the rest then. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:06, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

==re:xm21 file==
It looks like a squished version of POI's pic right? Just refresh the page and yours will show up, no need to keep re uploading it. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:45, 25 April 2011 (CDT)

==Army of Two==
No problem, it was my pleasure. I was trying out my new capture device, and my buddy and I have been playing the heck out of that game. I still have to get caps of the M203 and the Masterkey, and maybe the mounted MG. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 13:26, 15 August 2011 (CDT)
:Way ahead of you. I posted the M32 with Masterkey four hours ago. I wasn't sure what to call it, "the Compensator" or "the Freudian Special." Unfortunately, you can't mount an M203 on the M32. Oh well. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 21:55, 15 August 2011 (CDT)

== Suppressed M14 EBR in Abduction ==

Hi,

I have made a positive ID of the SAGE EBR stock on the suppressed M14/M1A featured in Abduction.
The stock is a vintage, full-length M14ALCS that went out of production in 2005. The rifle has a
22" barrel and the suppressor looks like a SureFire can.

http://m14hdw.us/

== Mythbusters ==

Yo, thanks for your help identifying the Maadi Griffin. How the hell did you figure that one? I've never even heard of the Maadi Griffin... Looks like its no longer manufactured, or at least I can't find shit on it. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 23:52, 3 December 2011 (CST)

:Well your skill are both a little scary and incredibly impressive. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 00:08, 4 December 2011 (CST)

::Wanna see if you can track down a picture of a model 89 or 99? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 00:12, 4 December 2011 (CST)

== STANAG ==

As I recall, STANAG 4179 (the 5.56mm magazine standard) is just a standard set of dimensions, the decision to standardise the 30-round M16 magazine itself was never made. While you were right to delete that comment for containing personal attacks, I think he's actually right that any capacity that fits the dimensions of the M16 magwell can be called STANAG-compliant. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 20:25, 2 September 2012 (CDT)

== Afghanistan: Last War Bus ==

Do you have any plans to finish ''Afghanistan: Last War Bus''? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 17:12, 24 October 2013 (EDT)
:That'll do I suppose. Thanks. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 13:49, 25 October 2013 (EDT)

Highlander II: The Quickening

2014-06-06T07:50:24Z

Rockwolf66: I have added a few Screencaps that I had and some more firearms that I saw in the film. I hope it helps.

[[Image:HII-TQ-poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Highlander II: The Quickening'' (1991)]]

'''''Highlander II: The Quickening''''' is the 1991 follow-up to 1986's ''[[Highlander]]''. [[Russell Mulcahy]] returned as director and [[Christopher Lambert]] and [[Sean Connery]] reprised their roles. [[Virginia Madsen]] and [[Michael Ironside]] joined the cast for this installment. The film was heavily criticized for its incongruities with the previous film and several recut versions were released in the years following its original theatrical run.

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{{Spoilers}}

=== Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup/Ruger Mini-14 ===
Several of General Katana's men and Connor MacLeod ([[Christopher Lambert]]) are seen with [[Muzzelite MZ14]] Bullpup/[[Ruger Mini-14]].

[[Image:RugerMuzzelite.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ruger Mini-14 in a Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup stock - 5.56x45mm]]
[[image:Highlander2_bullpup1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|General Katana's men with a Muzzlelite Mz14 bullpup on the right.]]

[[image:Highlander2_bullpup2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Connor Macleod ([[Christopher Lambert]]) holding up his Mz14 bullpup.]]

=== SPAS12 ===
One of General Katana's men is seen buttstrokeing a rebel with a [[Franchi SPAS-12]] Shotgun. it is a short barreled model with the stock removed.
[[Image:Franchi12.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 Short Barreled Version - 12 Gauge]]

[[image:Highlander2_SPAS.jpg|thumb|none|500px|General Katana's men hitting a Rebel with a SPAS 12.]]

=== Blaster Rifle ===
Several fighters on the alien planet are seen with some form of blaster rifle.
[[image:Highlander2_bullpup1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|General Katana's men with a Blaster rifle on the left.]]

=== FMK-3 ===
Members of an anti-corporate enviromentalist group use FMK-3 submachinguns when infiltraiting the Shield control center.
[[Image:ARFMK.jpg|thumb|none|450px |FMK-3 - 9x19mm]]

=== FN FAL 50.63 PARA ===
Guards at the Shield control center are armed with FN FAL 50.63 rifles.
[[Image:Fal_para-1-.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|FN FAL 50.63 Paratrooper with 18" barrel - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

==Smith & Wesson Model 19 (Nickel)==
Corda ([[Pete Antico]]) holds what appears to be a [[Smith & Wesson Model 19]] on Katana ([[Michael Ironside]]).
[[Image:S&W19Nickel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 19 (nickel) - .357 Magnum.]]
[[Image:HII-TQ-001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Heckler & Koch HK94==
The soldiers of Shield Corporation are armed with [[Heckler & Koch HK94]] submachine guns.
[[Image:H&K94Conversion.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "Fake MP5", the Heckler & Koch HK94A3 Converted to full auto fire, shortened barrel and added third firing position on trigger pack - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:HII-TQ-003.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:HII-TQ-004.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:HII-TQ-002.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:HII-TQ-005.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Heckler & Koch G3==
The Shield Corporation guards at the dam carry [[Heckler & Koch G3]] battle rifles.
[[Image:CETME G3.JPG|thumb|none|450px|Early Heckler & Koch G3 rifle with wooden handguard and buttstock - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:HII-TQ-006.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Ruger AC556==
Connor MacLeod ([[Christopher Lambert]]) and Louise Marcus ([[Virginia Madsen]]) used a [[Ruger AC556]] automatic rifle, which loot of the Shield Corporation guards.
[[Image:RugerAC556.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Ruger AC556 Carbine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:HII-TQ-007.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:HII-TQ-008.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:HII-TQ-009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

==Mossberg 500 Cruiser ==
Several Shield Corporation guards are equipped with [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] shotguns.
[[Image:Mossberg500Cruiser.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:HII-TQ-010.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

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File:Warbus M57 1.jpg

2013-11-02T20:16:58Z

Rockwolf66: First M57 appearance in the film Warbus.

First M57 appearance in the film Warbus.

Afghanistan: Last War Bus

2013-11-02T20:16:16Z

Rockwolf66: /* M57 Rocket launcher */

{{incompletepage}}
Filmed in Italy the film is about a Green Beret who enters Afghanistan trying to find "documents lost by his father during the fall of Iran. He ends up having to drive to the Pakistani border in an old school bus. The Following weapons can be seen in the Z-grade film ''Afghanistan - The last war bus (L'ultimo bus di guerra)''

==Zastava M70==
The [[Zastava M70]] is seen in the hands of most "Soviet" conscripted troops. It is also used by Afghan bandits and Johnny Hondo ([[Mark Gregory]]) when his MP5 runs out of ammo.
[[Image:Zastava M70AB2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Zastava M70AB2 folding stock rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Afak.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Warbus_M70_3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Why you don't try and get "Fresh" with Afghan Girls. She will Shank you, steal your assault Rifle and then kill a dozen of your buddies.]]

==SKS==
a Yugoslavian version of the [[SKS]] is another common weapon of the "soviet" conscript troops. In the film the sound of the M70 is used instead of the sound of a single shot.
[[Image:YugoSKS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Yugoslavian SKS M59/66 rifle with blade bayonet and grenade launcher attached to barrel, the variant most seen during the Balkan Wars - 7.62x39mm. The Yugoslavian M59 is nearly identical to the Russian SKS, it is the M59/66 which has the grenade launcher attachment at the end of the barrel.]]
[[Image:Afsks.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==MP5A3==
Johnny Hondo's main weapon during the film is an early model [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] fitted with what looks to be a blank firing device on the muzzle. Used totally from the hip when fired. Linda Cain ([[Savina Gersak]]).
[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with original "slimline" forearm - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Afmp.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==M1911==
Johnny Hondo uses a [[M1911]] throughout the film. Before the mission starts his dying father gives him his personal M1911. During the supply depot raid Johnny Hondo gives the M1911 to Kaber and almost gets himself killed by a Spetsnaz officer. Latter Captain Bowie steals the pistol from Kaber and holds it on Johnny Hondo when it is revealed that it is not documents that they are carrying but gold.
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Original Colt M1911 (dated 1913) - .45 ACP]]

==RPK==
A [[RPK light machine gun]] is used during Johnny Hondo's first rescue mission by the "Soviets". Later it is used as a doorgun on Mi-17 "Hip" assault helicopters.RPK light machineguns were used in such a roll in Afganistan by the Soviets. May in fact be a [[RPK light machine gun#Zastava M72B1|Crvena Zastava M72B1 light machine gun]] but the image is unclear.
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm with 40 round magazine]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK mounted in the doorway of a MI-17 HIP Assault Helicopter. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK opening fire on Johnny Hondo as he crosses a Pontoon bridge. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK mount shown from outside the helicopter. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK shown firing from the outside. ]]

==M57 Rocket launcher==
Johnny Hondo uses a Yugoslavian M57 Rocket launcher sans rocket to destroy a squad of "Soviet" conscripts during his first mission into Afghanistan. latter the Spetsnaz officer tries to use the same Rocket launcher to destroy the bus and only sets it on fire.
[[Image:Warbus_M57_1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Johnny Hondo about to say goodbye to a platoon of Soviet troops.]]

==M16A1==
Two [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1 rifles]] are seen hanging up in the forward base in Pakistan.
[[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 with 30 Round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Warbus_Armory.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16s hanging in the center of the Forward base armory.]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
An [[M60 machine gun]] is seen sitting under the M16A1 rifles.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Warbus_Armory.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 sitting in the center of the Forward base armory.]]

==Mosin Nagant Rifle==
the [[Mosin Nagant|Mosin-Nagant M91/30 rifle]] is rarely seen in the film. Some "soviet" conscripts are seen with Mosin Nagant rifles. This would be an anachronism as by that time the rifle was long out of service.
[[Image:M9130.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Full-length, Mosin Nagant M91/30 - 7.62x54R]]
[[Image:Afgmosin.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Afghan government conscript and Mosin Nagant M91/30]]

==Mossberg 500==
Johnny Hondo's credit card is a [[Mossberg 500-series shotgun#Mossberg 500|Sawed-off Mossberg 500]]. In the film he uses it to shoot down a Soviet Mi-17 "HIP" assault helicopter.
:This actually appears to be a Remington Model 31 shotgun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
[[Image:Sawed-off_mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sawed off Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Afheli.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==PKMT==
The Soviet MB-LT Armored Vehicles are armed with a single [[PK machine gun|PKMT Machine gun]].
[[Image:Machine gun PKT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKT machine gun 7.62x54mm R with 250-round ammo drum]]
[[Image:Warbus_MBLT_1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Soviet MB-LT moving into contact with Johnny Hondo. The PKMT can be seen in the front turret.]]
[[Image:Warbus_MBLT_2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Close up of the front of the Turret of the MB-LT. Notice that the barrel does not seem to be installed.]]
[[Image:Warbus_MBLT_3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The MB-LT firing at Johnny Hondo.]]

==Unknown Mortar==
The Soviets use what looks like an 82mm Mortar to try and stop the bus before it gets started.

==Unknown Pistol==
[[Image:Afukpistol2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==Unknown Revolver==
[[Image:Afukpistol.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afukpistol3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afukpistol4.jpg|thumb|300px|none|]]

==Unknown Hand Grenade==
[[Image:Afgn.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afgn2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==Unknown Time Bomb==
[[Image:Aftimebomb.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Aftimebomb2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

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File:Warbus M70 3.jpg

2013-11-02T20:14:24Z

Rockwolf66: Afghan girl shooting bandits in Warbus.

Afghan girl shooting bandits in Warbus.

Afghanistan: Last War Bus

2013-11-02T20:13:48Z

Rockwolf66: /* Zastava M70 */

{{incompletepage}}
Filmed in Italy the film is about a Green Beret who enters Afghanistan trying to find "documents lost by his father during the fall of Iran. He ends up having to drive to the Pakistani border in an old school bus. The Following weapons can be seen in the Z-grade film ''Afghanistan - The last war bus (L'ultimo bus di guerra)''

==Zastava M70==
The [[Zastava M70]] is seen in the hands of most "Soviet" conscripted troops. It is also used by Afghan bandits and Johnny Hondo ([[Mark Gregory]]) when his MP5 runs out of ammo.
[[Image:Zastava M70AB2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Zastava M70AB2 folding stock rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Afak.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Warbus_M70_3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Why you don't try and get "Fresh" with Afghan Girls. She will Shank you, steal your assault Rifle and then kill a dozen of your buddies.]]

==SKS==
a Yugoslavian version of the [[SKS]] is another common weapon of the "soviet" conscript troops. In the film the sound of the M70 is used instead of the sound of a single shot.
[[Image:YugoSKS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Yugoslavian SKS M59/66 rifle with blade bayonet and grenade launcher attached to barrel, the variant most seen during the Balkan Wars - 7.62x39mm. The Yugoslavian M59 is nearly identical to the Russian SKS, it is the M59/66 which has the grenade launcher attachment at the end of the barrel.]]
[[Image:Afsks.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==MP5A3==
Johnny Hondo's main weapon during the film is an early model [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] fitted with what looks to be a blank firing device on the muzzle. Used totally from the hip when fired. Linda Cain ([[Savina Gersak]]).
[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with original "slimline" forearm - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Afmp.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==M1911==
Johnny Hondo uses a [[M1911]] throughout the film. Before the mission starts his dying father gives him his personal M1911. During the supply depot raid Johnny Hondo gives the M1911 to Kaber and almost gets himself killed by a Spetsnaz officer. Latter Captain Bowie steals the pistol from Kaber and holds it on Johnny Hondo when it is revealed that it is not documents that they are carrying but gold.
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Original Colt M1911 (dated 1913) - .45 ACP]]

==RPK==
A [[RPK light machine gun]] is used during Johnny Hondo's first rescue mission by the "Soviets". Later it is used as a doorgun on Mi-17 "Hip" assault helicopters.RPK light machineguns were used in such a roll in Afganistan by the Soviets. May in fact be a [[RPK light machine gun#Zastava M72B1|Crvena Zastava M72B1 light machine gun]] but the image is unclear.
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm with 40 round magazine]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK mounted in the doorway of a MI-17 HIP Assault Helicopter. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK opening fire on Johnny Hondo as he crosses a Pontoon bridge. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK mount shown from outside the helicopter. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK shown firing from the outside. ]]

==M57 Rocket launcher==
Johnny Hondo uses a Yugoslavian M57 Rocket launcher sans rocket to destroy a squad of "Soviet" conscripts during his first mission into Afghanistan. latter the Spetsnaz officer tries to use the same Rocket launcher to destroy the bus and only sets it on fire.

==M16A1==
Two [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1 rifles]] are seen hanging up in the forward base in Pakistan.
[[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 with 30 Round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Warbus_Armory.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16s hanging in the center of the Forward base armory.]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
An [[M60 machine gun]] is seen sitting under the M16A1 rifles.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Warbus_Armory.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 sitting in the center of the Forward base armory.]]

==Mosin Nagant Rifle==
the [[Mosin Nagant|Mosin-Nagant M91/30 rifle]] is rarely seen in the film. Some "soviet" conscripts are seen with Mosin Nagant rifles. This would be an anachronism as by that time the rifle was long out of service.
[[Image:M9130.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Full-length, Mosin Nagant M91/30 - 7.62x54R]]
[[Image:Afgmosin.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Afghan government conscript and Mosin Nagant M91/30]]

==Mossberg 500==
Johnny Hondo's credit card is a [[Mossberg 500-series shotgun#Mossberg 500|Sawed-off Mossberg 500]]. In the film he uses it to shoot down a Soviet Mi-17 "HIP" assault helicopter.
:This actually appears to be a Remington Model 31 shotgun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
[[Image:Sawed-off_mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sawed off Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Afheli.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==PKMT==
The Soviet MB-LT Armored Vehicles are armed with a single [[PK machine gun|PKMT Machine gun]].
[[Image:Machine gun PKT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKT machine gun 7.62x54mm R with 250-round ammo drum]]
[[Image:Warbus_MBLT_1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Soviet MB-LT moving into contact with Johnny Hondo. The PKMT can be seen in the front turret.]]
[[Image:Warbus_MBLT_2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Close up of the front of the Turret of the MB-LT. Notice that the barrel does not seem to be installed.]]
[[Image:Warbus_MBLT_3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The MB-LT firing at Johnny Hondo.]]

==Unknown Mortar==
The Soviets use what looks like an 82mm Mortar to try and stop the bus before it gets started.

==Unknown Pistol==
[[Image:Afukpistol2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==Unknown Revolver==
[[Image:Afukpistol.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afukpistol3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afukpistol4.jpg|thumb|300px|none|]]

==Unknown Hand Grenade==
[[Image:Afgn.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afgn2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==Unknown Time Bomb==
[[Image:Aftimebomb.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Aftimebomb2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

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File:Warbus MBLT 3.jpg

2013-11-02T20:06:19Z

Rockwolf66: APC Turret Firing from the film Warbus.

APC Turret Firing from the film Warbus.

File:Warbus MBLT 2.jpg

2013-11-02T20:05:42Z

Rockwolf66: APC turret from the film Warbus.

APC turret from the film Warbus.

File:Warbus MBLT 1.jpg

2013-11-02T20:04:57Z

Rockwolf66: Machinegun armed APC from the film Warbus.

Machinegun armed APC from the film Warbus.

Afghanistan: Last War Bus

2013-11-02T20:04:04Z

Rockwolf66: /* PKMT */

{{incompletepage}}
Filmed in Italy the film is about a Green Beret who enters Afghanistan trying to find "documents lost by his father during the fall of Iran. He ends up having to drive to the Pakistani border in an old school bus. The Following weapons can be seen in the Z-grade film ''Afghanistan - The last war bus (L'ultimo bus di guerra)''

==Zastava M70==
The [[Zastava M70]] is seen in the hands of most "Soviet" conscripted troops. It is also used by Afghan bandits and Johnny Hondo ([[Mark Gregory]]) when his MP5 runs out of ammo.
[[Image:Zastava M70AB2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Zastava M70AB2 folding stock rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Afak.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==SKS==
a Yugoslavian version of the [[SKS]] is another common weapon of the "soviet" conscript troops. In the film the sound of the M70 is used instead of the sound of a single shot.
[[Image:YugoSKS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Yugoslavian SKS M59/66 rifle with blade bayonet and grenade launcher attached to barrel, the variant most seen during the Balkan Wars - 7.62x39mm. The Yugoslavian M59 is nearly identical to the Russian SKS, it is the M59/66 which has the grenade launcher attachment at the end of the barrel.]]
[[Image:Afsks.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==MP5A3==
Johnny Hondo's main weapon during the film is an early model [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] fitted with what looks to be a blank firing device on the muzzle. Used totally from the hip when fired. Linda Cain ([[Savina Gersak]]).
[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with original "slimline" forearm - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Afmp.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==M1911==
Johnny Hondo uses a [[M1911]] throughout the film. Before the mission starts his dying father gives him his personal M1911. During the supply depot raid Johnny Hondo gives the M1911 to Kaber and almost gets himself killed by a Spetsnaz officer. Latter Captain Bowie steals the pistol from Kaber and holds it on Johnny Hondo when it is revealed that it is not documents that they are carrying but gold.
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Original Colt M1911 (dated 1913) - .45 ACP]]

==RPK==
A [[RPK light machine gun]] is used during Johnny Hondo's first rescue mission by the "Soviets". Later it is used as a doorgun on Mi-17 "Hip" assault helicopters.RPK light machineguns were used in such a roll in Afganistan by the Soviets. May in fact be a [[RPK light machine gun#Zastava M72B1|Crvena Zastava M72B1 light machine gun]] but the image is unclear.
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm with 40 round magazine]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK mounted in the doorway of a MI-17 HIP Assault Helicopter. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK opening fire on Johnny Hondo as he crosses a Pontoon bridge. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK mount shown from outside the helicopter. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK shown firing from the outside. ]]

==M57 Rocket launcher==
Johnny Hondo uses a Yugoslavian M57 Rocket launcher sans rocket to destroy a squad of "Soviet" conscripts during his first mission into Afghanistan. latter the Spetsnaz officer tries to use the same Rocket launcher to destroy the bus and only sets it on fire.

==M16A1==
Two [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1 rifles]] are seen hanging up in the forward base in Pakistan.
[[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 with 30 Round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Warbus_Armory.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16s hanging in the center of the Forward base armory.]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
An [[M60 machine gun]] is seen sitting under the M16A1 rifles.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Warbus_Armory.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 sitting in the center of the Forward base armory.]]

==Mosin Nagant Rifle==
the [[Mosin Nagant|Mosin-Nagant M91/30 rifle]] is rarely seen in the film. Some "soviet" conscripts are seen with Mosin Nagant rifles. This would be an anachronism as by that time the rifle was long out of service.
[[Image:M9130.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Full-length, Mosin Nagant M91/30 - 7.62x54R]]
[[Image:Afgmosin.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Afghan government conscript and Mosin Nagant M91/30]]

==Mossberg 500==
Johnny Hondo's credit card is a [[Mossberg 500-series shotgun#Mossberg 500|Sawed-off Mossberg 500]]. In the film he uses it to shoot down a Soviet Mi-17 "HIP" assault helicopter.
:This actually appears to be a Remington Model 31 shotgun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
[[Image:Sawed-off_mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sawed off Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Afheli.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==PKMT==
The Soviet MB-LT Armored Vehicles are armed with a single [[PK machine gun|PKMT Machine gun]].
[[Image:Machine gun PKT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKT machine gun 7.62x54mm R with 250-round ammo drum]]
[[Image:Warbus_MBLT_1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Soviet MB-LT moving into contact with Johnny Hondo. The PKMT can be seen in the front turret.]]
[[Image:Warbus_MBLT_2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Close up of the front of the Turret of the MB-LT. Notice that the barrel does not seem to be installed.]]
[[Image:Warbus_MBLT_3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The MB-LT firing at Johnny Hondo.]]

==Unknown Mortar==
The Soviets use what looks like an 82mm Mortar to try and stop the bus before it gets started.

==Unknown Pistol==
[[Image:Afukpistol2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==Unknown Revolver==
[[Image:Afukpistol.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afukpistol3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afukpistol4.jpg|thumb|300px|none|]]

==Unknown Hand Grenade==
[[Image:Afgn.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afgn2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==Unknown Time Bomb==
[[Image:Aftimebomb.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Aftimebomb2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]
[[Category:War]]

Afghanistan: Last War Bus

2013-11-02T19:57:32Z

Rockwolf66: /* M16A1 */

{{incompletepage}}
Filmed in Italy the film is about a Green Beret who enters Afghanistan trying to find "documents lost by his father during the fall of Iran. He ends up having to drive to the Pakistani border in an old school bus. The Following weapons can be seen in the Z-grade film ''Afghanistan - The last war bus (L'ultimo bus di guerra)''

==Zastava M70==
The [[Zastava M70]] is seen in the hands of most "Soviet" conscripted troops. It is also used by Afghan bandits and Johnny Hondo ([[Mark Gregory]]) when his MP5 runs out of ammo.
[[Image:Zastava M70AB2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Zastava M70AB2 folding stock rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Afak.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==SKS==
a Yugoslavian version of the [[SKS]] is another common weapon of the "soviet" conscript troops. In the film the sound of the M70 is used instead of the sound of a single shot.
[[Image:YugoSKS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Yugoslavian SKS M59/66 rifle with blade bayonet and grenade launcher attached to barrel, the variant most seen during the Balkan Wars - 7.62x39mm. The Yugoslavian M59 is nearly identical to the Russian SKS, it is the M59/66 which has the grenade launcher attachment at the end of the barrel.]]
[[Image:Afsks.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==MP5A3==
Johnny Hondo's main weapon during the film is an early model [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] fitted with what looks to be a blank firing device on the muzzle. Used totally from the hip when fired. Linda Cain ([[Savina Gersak]]).
[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with original "slimline" forearm - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Afmp.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==M1911==
Johnny Hondo uses a [[M1911]] throughout the film. Before the mission starts his dying father gives him his personal M1911. During the supply depot raid Johnny Hondo gives the M1911 to Kaber and almost gets himself killed by a Spetsnaz officer. Latter Captain Bowie steals the pistol from Kaber and holds it on Johnny Hondo when it is revealed that it is not documents that they are carrying but gold.
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Original Colt M1911 (dated 1913) - .45 ACP]]

==RPK==
A [[RPK light machine gun]] is used during Johnny Hondo's first rescue mission by the "Soviets". Later it is used as a doorgun on Mi-17 "Hip" assault helicopters.RPK light machineguns were used in such a roll in Afganistan by the Soviets. May in fact be a [[RPK light machine gun#Zastava M72B1|Crvena Zastava M72B1 light machine gun]] but the image is unclear.
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm with 40 round magazine]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK mounted in the doorway of a MI-17 HIP Assault Helicopter. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK opening fire on Johnny Hondo as he crosses a Pontoon bridge. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK mount shown from outside the helicopter. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK shown firing from the outside. ]]

==M57 Rocket launcher==
Johnny Hondo uses a Yugoslavian M57 Rocket launcher sans rocket to destroy a squad of "Soviet" conscripts during his first mission into Afghanistan. latter the Spetsnaz officer tries to use the same Rocket launcher to destroy the bus and only sets it on fire.

==M16A1==
Two [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1 rifles]] are seen hanging up in the forward base in Pakistan.
[[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 with 30 Round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:Warbus_Armory.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16s hanging in the center of the Forward base armory.]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
An [[M60 machine gun]] is seen sitting under the M16A1 rifles.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Warbus_Armory.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 sitting in the center of the Forward base armory.]]

==Mosin Nagant Rifle==
the [[Mosin Nagant|Mosin-Nagant M91/30 rifle]] is rarely seen in the film. Some "soviet" conscripts are seen with Mosin Nagant rifles. This would be an anachronism as by that time the rifle was long out of service.
[[Image:M9130.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Full-length, Mosin Nagant M91/30 - 7.62x54R]]
[[Image:Afgmosin.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Afghan government conscript and Mosin Nagant M91/30]]

==Mossberg 500==
Johnny Hondo's credit card is a [[Mossberg 500-series shotgun#Mossberg 500|Sawed-off Mossberg 500]]. In the film he uses it to shoot down a Soviet Mi-17 "HIP" assault helicopter.
:This actually appears to be a Remington Model 31 shotgun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
[[Image:Sawed-off_mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sawed off Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Afheli.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==PKMT==
The Soviet MB-LT Armored Vehicles are armed with a single [[PK machine gun|PKMT Machine gun]].
[[Image:Machine gun PKT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKT machine gun 7.62x54mm R with 250-round ammo drum]]

==Unknown Mortar==
The Soviets use what looks like an 82mm Mortar to try and stop the bus before it gets started.

==Unknown Pistol==
[[Image:Afukpistol2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==Unknown Revolver==
[[Image:Afukpistol.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afukpistol3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afukpistol4.jpg|thumb|300px|none|]]

==Unknown Hand Grenade==
[[Image:Afgn.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afgn2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==Unknown Time Bomb==
[[Image:Aftimebomb.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Aftimebomb2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]
[[Category:War]]

File:Warbus RPK 4.jpg

2013-11-02T19:56:30Z

Rockwolf66: RPK from the film Warbus.

RPK from the film Warbus.

File:Warbus RPK 3.jpg

2013-11-02T19:55:57Z

Rockwolf66: RPK from the film Warbus.

RPK from the film Warbus.

File:Warbus RPK 2.jpg

2013-11-02T19:54:59Z

Rockwolf66: RPK from the film Warbus.

RPK from the film Warbus.

File:Warbus RPK 1.jpg

2013-11-02T19:54:24Z

Rockwolf66: RPK from the film Warbus

RPK from the film Warbus

Afghanistan: Last War Bus

2013-11-02T19:53:36Z

Rockwolf66: /* RPK */

{{incompletepage}}
Filmed in Italy the film is about a Green Beret who enters Afghanistan trying to find "documents lost by his father during the fall of Iran. He ends up having to drive to the Pakistani border in an old school bus. The Following weapons can be seen in the Z-grade film ''Afghanistan - The last war bus (L'ultimo bus di guerra)''

==Zastava M70==
The [[Zastava M70]] is seen in the hands of most "Soviet" conscripted troops. It is also used by Afghan bandits and Johnny Hondo ([[Mark Gregory]]) when his MP5 runs out of ammo.
[[Image:Zastava M70AB2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Zastava M70AB2 folding stock rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Afak.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==SKS==
a Yugoslavian version of the [[SKS]] is another common weapon of the "soviet" conscript troops. In the film the sound of the M70 is used instead of the sound of a single shot.
[[Image:YugoSKS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Yugoslavian SKS M59/66 rifle with blade bayonet and grenade launcher attached to barrel, the variant most seen during the Balkan Wars - 7.62x39mm. The Yugoslavian M59 is nearly identical to the Russian SKS, it is the M59/66 which has the grenade launcher attachment at the end of the barrel.]]
[[Image:Afsks.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==MP5A3==
Johnny Hondo's main weapon during the film is an early model [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] fitted with what looks to be a blank firing device on the muzzle. Used totally from the hip when fired. Linda Cain ([[Savina Gersak]]).
[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with original "slimline" forearm - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Afmp.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==M1911==
Johnny Hondo uses a [[M1911]] throughout the film. Before the mission starts his dying father gives him his personal M1911. During the supply depot raid Johnny Hondo gives the M1911 to Kaber and almost gets himself killed by a Spetsnaz officer. Latter Captain Bowie steals the pistol from Kaber and holds it on Johnny Hondo when it is revealed that it is not documents that they are carrying but gold.
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Original Colt M1911 (dated 1913) - .45 ACP]]

==RPK==
A [[RPK light machine gun]] is used during Johnny Hondo's first rescue mission by the "Soviets". Later it is used as a doorgun on Mi-17 "Hip" assault helicopters.RPK light machineguns were used in such a roll in Afganistan by the Soviets. May in fact be a [[RPK light machine gun#Zastava M72B1|Crvena Zastava M72B1 light machine gun]] but the image is unclear.
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm with 40 round magazine]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK mounted in the doorway of a MI-17 HIP Assault Helicopter. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK opening fire on Johnny Hondo as he crosses a Pontoon bridge. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK mount shown from outside the helicopter. ]]
[[Image:Warbus_RPK_4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK shown firing from the outside. ]]

==M57 Rocket launcher==
Johnny Hondo uses a Yugoslavian M57 Rocket launcher sans rocket to destroy a squad of "Soviet" conscripts during his first mission into Afghanistan. latter the Spetsnaz officer tries to use the same Rocket launcher to destroy the bus and only sets it on fire.

==M16A1==
Two [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1 rifles]] are seen hanging up in the forward base in Pakistan.
[[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 with 30 Round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
An [[M60 machine gun]] is seen sitting under the M16A1 rifles.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Warbus_Armory.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 sitting in the center of the Forward base armory.]]

==Mosin Nagant Rifle==
the [[Mosin Nagant|Mosin-Nagant M91/30 rifle]] is rarely seen in the film. Some "soviet" conscripts are seen with Mosin Nagant rifles. This would be an anachronism as by that time the rifle was long out of service.
[[Image:M9130.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Full-length, Mosin Nagant M91/30 - 7.62x54R]]
[[Image:Afgmosin.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Afghan government conscript and Mosin Nagant M91/30]]

==Mossberg 500==
Johnny Hondo's credit card is a [[Mossberg 500-series shotgun#Mossberg 500|Sawed-off Mossberg 500]]. In the film he uses it to shoot down a Soviet Mi-17 "HIP" assault helicopter.
:This actually appears to be a Remington Model 31 shotgun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
[[Image:Sawed-off_mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sawed off Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Afheli.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==PKMT==
The Soviet MB-LT Armored Vehicles are armed with a single [[PK machine gun|PKMT Machine gun]].
[[Image:Machine gun PKT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKT machine gun 7.62x54mm R with 250-round ammo drum]]

==Unknown Mortar==
The Soviets use what looks like an 82mm Mortar to try and stop the bus before it gets started.

==Unknown Pistol==
[[Image:Afukpistol2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==Unknown Revolver==
[[Image:Afukpistol.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afukpistol3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afukpistol4.jpg|thumb|300px|none|]]

==Unknown Hand Grenade==
[[Image:Afgn.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afgn2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==Unknown Time Bomb==
[[Image:Aftimebomb.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Aftimebomb2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]
[[Category:War]]

Afghanistan: Last War Bus

2013-11-02T19:46:13Z

Rockwolf66: /* M60 Machine Gun */

{{incompletepage}}
Filmed in Italy the film is about a Green Beret who enters Afghanistan trying to find "documents lost by his father during the fall of Iran. He ends up having to drive to the Pakistani border in an old school bus. The Following weapons can be seen in the Z-grade film ''Afghanistan - The last war bus (L'ultimo bus di guerra)''

==Zastava M70==
The [[Zastava M70]] is seen in the hands of most "Soviet" conscripted troops. It is also used by Afghan bandits and Johnny Hondo ([[Mark Gregory]]) when his MP5 runs out of ammo.
[[Image:Zastava M70AB2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Zastava M70AB2 folding stock rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Afak.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==SKS==
a Yugoslavian version of the [[SKS]] is another common weapon of the "soviet" conscript troops. In the film the sound of the M70 is used instead of the sound of a single shot.
[[Image:YugoSKS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Yugoslavian SKS M59/66 rifle with blade bayonet and grenade launcher attached to barrel, the variant most seen during the Balkan Wars - 7.62x39mm. The Yugoslavian M59 is nearly identical to the Russian SKS, it is the M59/66 which has the grenade launcher attachment at the end of the barrel.]]
[[Image:Afsks.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==MP5A3==
Johnny Hondo's main weapon during the film is an early model [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] fitted with what looks to be a blank firing device on the muzzle. Used totally from the hip when fired. Linda Cain ([[Savina Gersak]]).
[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with original "slimline" forearm - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Afmp.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==M1911==
Johnny Hondo uses a [[M1911]] throughout the film. Before the mission starts his dying father gives him his personal M1911. During the supply depot raid Johnny Hondo gives the M1911 to Kaber and almost gets himself killed by a Spetsnaz officer. Latter Captain Bowie steals the pistol from Kaber and holds it on Johnny Hondo when it is revealed that it is not documents that they are carrying but gold.
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Original Colt M1911 (dated 1913) - .45 ACP]]

==RPK==
An [[RPK light machine gun]] is used during Johnny Hondo's first rescue mission by the "Soviets". Later it is used as a doorgun on Mi-17 "Hip" assault helicopters. May in fact be a [[RPK light machine gun#Zastava M72B1|Crvena Zastava M72B1 light machine gun]] but the image is unclear.
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm with 40 round magazine]]

==M57 Rocket launcher==
Johnny Hondo uses a Yugoslavian M57 Rocket launcher sans rocket to destroy a squad of "Soviet" conscripts during his first mission into Afghanistan. latter the Spetsnaz officer tries to use the same Rocket launcher to destroy the bus and only sets it on fire.

==M16A1==
Two [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1 rifles]] are seen hanging up in the forward base in Pakistan.
[[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 with 30 Round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
An [[M60 machine gun]] is seen sitting under the M16A1 rifles.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:Warbus_Armory.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 sitting in the center of the Forward base armory.]]

==Mosin Nagant Rifle==
the [[Mosin Nagant|Mosin-Nagant M91/30 rifle]] is rarely seen in the film. Some "soviet" conscripts are seen with Mosin Nagant rifles. This would be an anachronism as by that time the rifle was long out of service.
[[Image:M9130.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Full-length, Mosin Nagant M91/30 - 7.62x54R]]
[[Image:Afgmosin.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Afghan government conscript and Mosin Nagant M91/30]]

==Mossberg 500==
Johnny Hondo's credit card is a [[Mossberg 500-series shotgun#Mossberg 500|Sawed-off Mossberg 500]]. In the film he uses it to shoot down a Soviet Mi-17 "HIP" assault helicopter.
:This actually appears to be a Remington Model 31 shotgun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
[[Image:Sawed-off_mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sawed off Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Afheli.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==PKMT==
The Soviet MB-LT Armored Vehicles are armed with a single [[PK machine gun|PKMT Machine gun]].
[[Image:Machine gun PKT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKT machine gun 7.62x54mm R with 250-round ammo drum]]

==Unknown Mortar==
The Soviets use what looks like an 82mm Mortar to try and stop the bus before it gets started.

==Unknown Pistol==
[[Image:Afukpistol2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==Unknown Revolver==
[[Image:Afukpistol.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afukpistol3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afukpistol4.jpg|thumb|300px|none|]]

==Unknown Hand Grenade==
[[Image:Afgn.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afgn2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==Unknown Time Bomb==
[[Image:Aftimebomb.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Aftimebomb2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]
[[Category:War]]

File:Warbus Armory.jpg

2013-11-02T19:45:02Z

Rockwolf66: Screen Image from Warbus.

Screen Image from Warbus.

Afghanistan: Last War Bus

2013-10-30T05:56:11Z

Rockwolf66: /* Unknown Rocket launcher */

{{incompletepage}}
Filmed in Italy the film is about a Green Beret who enters Afghanistan trying to find "documents lost by his father during the fall of Iran. He ends up having to drive to the Pakistani border in an old school bus. The Following weapons can be seen in the Z-grade film ''Afghanistan - The last war bus (L'ultimo bus di guerra)''

==Zastava M70==
The [[Zastava M70]] is seen in the hands of most "Soviet" conscripted troops. It is also used by Afghan bandits and Johnny Hondo ([[Mark Gregory]]) when his MP5 runs out of ammo.
[[Image:Zastava M70AB2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Zastava M70AB2 folding stock rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Afak.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afak4.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==SKS==
a Yugoslavian version of the [[SKS]] is another common weapon of the "soviet" conscript troops. In the film the sound of the M70 is used instead of the sound of a single shot.
[[Image:YugoSKS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Yugoslavian SKS M59/66 rifle with blade bayonet and grenade launcher attached to barrel, the variant most seen during the Balkan Wars - 7.62x39mm. The Yugoslavian M59 is nearly identical to the Russian SKS, it is the M59/66 which has the grenade launcher attachment at the end of the barrel.]]
[[Image:Afsks.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==MP5A3==
Johnny Hondo's main weapon during the film is an early model [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] fitted with what looks to be a blank firing device on the muzzle. Used totally from the hip when fired. Linda Cain ([[Savina Gersak]]).
[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with original "slimline" forearm - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Afmp.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]
[[Image:Afmp4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==M1911==
Johnny Hondo uses a [[M1911]] throughout the film. Before the mission starts his dying father gives him his personal M1911. During the supply depot raid Johnny Hondo gives the M1911 to Kaber and almost gets himself killed by a Spetsnaz officer. Latter Captain Bowie steals the pistol from Kaber and holds it on Johnny Hondo when it is revealed that it is not documents that they are carrying but gold.
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Original Colt M1911 (dated 1913) - .45 ACP]]

==RPK==
An [[RPK light machine gun]] is used during Johnny Hondo's first rescue mission by the "Soviets". Later it is used as a doorgun on Mi-17 "Hip" assault helicopters. May in fact be a [[RPK light machine gun#Zastava M72B1|Crvena Zastava M72B1 light machine gun]] but the image is unclear.
[[Image:RPK lmg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm with 40 round magazine]]

==M57 Rocket launcher==
Johnny Hondo uses a Yugoslavian M57 Rocket launcher sans rocket to destroy a squad of "Soviet" conscripts during his first mission into Afghanistan. latter the Spetsnaz officer tries to use the same Rocket launcher to destroy the bus and only sets it on fire.

==M16A1==
Two [[M16 rifle series#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1 rifles]] are seen hanging up in the forward base in Pakistan.
[[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 with 30 Round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]

==M60 Machine Gun==
An [[M60 machine gun]] is seen sitting under the M16A1 rifles.
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]

==Mosin Nagant Rifle==
the [[Mosin Nagant|Mosin-Nagant M91/30 rifle]] is rarely seen in the film. Some "soviet" conscripts are seen with Mosin Nagant rifles. This would be an anachronism as by that time the rifle was long out of service.
[[Image:M9130.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Full-length, Mosin Nagant M91/30 - 7.62x54R]]
[[Image:Afgmosin.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Afghan government conscript and Mosin Nagant M91/30]]

==Mossberg 500==
Johnny Hondo's credit card is a [[Mossberg 500-series shotgun#Mossberg 500|Sawed-off Mossberg 500]]. In the film he uses it to shoot down a Soviet Mi-17 "HIP" assault helicopter.
:This actually appears to be a Remington Model 31 shotgun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
[[Image:Sawed-off_mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sawed off Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Afheli.jpg|thumb|none|400px|]]

==PKMT==
The Soviet MB-LT Armored Vehicles are armed with a single [[PK machine gun|PKMT Machine gun]].
[[Image:Machine gun PKT.jpg|thumb|400px|none|PKT machine gun 7.62x54mm R with 250-round ammo drum]]

==Unknown Mortar==
The Soviets use what looks like an 82mm Mortar to try and stop the bus before it gets started.

==Unknown Pistol==
[[Image:Afukpistol2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==Unknown Revolver==
[[Image:Afukpistol.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afukpistol3.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afukpistol4.jpg|thumb|300px|none|]]

==Unknown Hand Grenade==
[[Image:Afgn.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Afgn2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

==Unknown Time Bomb==
[[Image:Aftimebomb.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]
[[Image:Aftimebomb2.jpg|thumb|400px|none|]]

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Action Movie]]
[[Category:War]]

User talk:Funkychinaman

2013-10-25T17:45:04Z

Rockwolf66: /* Animation Pages */

''Earlier discussions: [[User talk:Funkychinaman/Archive 1]]''

== Black boarders ==
I've replaced the file for Sternwood walks into bar and fires steyr.jpg with one without boarders, but the original is still showing on the welcome to the punch page can you help?
thanks.
yeah sorry my computers messed up at the moment cant actually get any HD trailers up but i should be able to this evening i'm getting my laptop back and thats fine.
here is the ulr for the trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr-O_v0mlx8
and heres the second url if you need it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8VLeJbekKk
[[User:statichunter|statichunter]]

== Error ==

Hi, I did an error with this file: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Mabuse_dreyse_00.jpg The preview image in the article is wrong but when you click on it, it displays the right image. Please look into this. Thank you. --[[User:Wicket1138|Wicket1138]] ([[User talk:Wicket1138|talk]]) 18:29, 18 October 2012 (EDT)
:I want to keep the one with the desk. Thx. --[[User:Wicket1138|Wicket1138]] ([[User talk:Wicket1138|talk]]) 18:44, 18 October 2012 (EDT)

== Heya ==

You want me to archive your talk page? Also, what do you think of the work I've been doing on [[GoldenEye 007 (2010)|that other Goldeneye]]? It's amazing how much of the stuff on the page before was either totally wrong or only true of one version or the other. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:56, 14 August 2012 (CDT)
:Eh, 90 subsections is a pretty big page. I think most of the grief was because people claimed the original was next-gen graphics when actually it looks a lot like Black running on PS2. My current device is a Hauppage! (yes, with the exclaimation) HD-PVR, using component leads for input; it's completely useless for composite, mind, so I've still got my Pinnacle Dazzle if I need to record anything PS2 or earlier. It can theoretically record 1080p but it looks like ass in motion to stop you using it to copy blu-ray discs, so it's best to leave it on 720. The Hauppage one also has the advantage that it's actually designed for recording games and so has component video pass-through, so you don't have to build a snake's nest of wires and splitters to play without recording lag. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 10:12, 14 August 2012 (CDT)
::Actually I just realised the most ridiculous thing about that game: they forgot to make Dam a flashback and just have the story carry straight on after it. So Alec manages to set up the entire Janus organisation and builds a massive power station in roughly one day.[[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 01:06, 15 August 2012 (CDT)
:::Well, it's not like EA didn't try that too (and unlike ''GoldenEye: Rogue Agent'' Activision's game actually has ''something'' to do with the original movie), it's just they tried to bring it up to date in a way that makes no actual sense. I guess it's because it was written by a Hollywood screenwriter who wasn't used to the games industry's alarming tendency to accept first script drafts (the co-writer of the original movie script, apparently) because it has all the signs of a script which hasn't had enough editorial work done on it; from the aformentioned turbo-terrorism to forgetting to give Alec the scar the entire Janus group is named after to Ourumov stealing an EMP-hardened helicopter when he already has one. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:54, 15 August 2012 (CDT)

== KillerUzi ==

Eh, he's not going to magically become a decent human being in six months, I've made it infinite. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 20:23, 16 August 2012 (CDT)

:And it turns out all of the were Liam. Fancy that. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:23, 17 August 2012 (CDT)

::Yeah, but he remembers that whole "Jamal pick my cotton" thing from back when Liam went nuts and started e-stalking Excalibur after the Killzone page was deleted. He's insulting Zackmann for giving him a new account after we banned the other two last night and that one he used earlier. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:42, 17 August 2012 (CDT)

:::Naw, I think it's just the same guy it always was. Liam always made useless pages, that's why he was banned originally. So he loses two accounts he's "contributing" with, digs out an old one he remembered the password for, then has to register a new one. Insulting Zachmann is because he ''totally beat us'' by being mildly inconveniant for a few minutes.

:::I've modded a site with about ten thousand active members (not saying which :D), and I can tell you for free: people ''do'' get this weird and obsessive about having a right to be there even though all they do is make a mess when they actually have that "right." We had one guy posting spam dozens of accounts a day for hours at a time, for most of a year. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:59, 17 August 2012 (CDT)

:::Anyway, I have to go to sleep now, so keep an eye out. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:09, 17 August 2012 (CDT)

::::I think the most likely answer is that Gunner95 isn't the same guy, and is just a completely different idiot (it's not like the world is experiencing a shortage) with the similarities being coincidental. Or it's just one of his many personalities. Either way, I wouldn't bother unbanning Gunner95 to find out. In other news, playing GoldenEye I've realised the most ridiculous firearm-related thing is that Bond has to draw his weapon when breaching doors. So, um, he holsters his weapon, kicks open a door to a room full of armed men, and then tries to pull it back out. And with anything but a pistol does it so slowly that the bad guys are already shooting at him by the time he can fire.

::::I just get the image of the guards standing there looking embarassed for him as Daniel Craig bursts in dramatically and starts struggling with a carry strap tangled around his arm or something. Anyway, off to bed. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:25, 17 August 2012 (CDT)

== Spam ==

So spam has dramatically decreased lately as a result of the new system put in place by [[Bunni]] but we still have the occasional jerk who gets through. For future reference, if anyone does start doing stuff like our pal [[user:Weston1911|Weston1911]] did, will you message me? I am compiling a "blacklist" that includes the e-mail and IP the user used when they registered. It will help prevent them from registering in the future. Thanks man! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:33, 17 August 2012 (CDT)
:Ok. Explain something to me... WTF is CloudFare?!?!?! I keep seeing that with IP addresses on the forum! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:39, 17 August 2012 (CDT)
::Gotcha. I just don't get how a user gets an IP address from CloudFare and not from their own computer... Weirdddd --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:55, 17 August 2012 (CDT)
BAHAHAHAHAH!!! That Biography reads like it was written by a third grader... LOVE IT! I can't believe this is the same brat who kept trying to make a page for "The House on Creepy Lane".... UGHHHH. Thanks for the info. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 22:41, 18 August 2012 (CDT)
:No kidding... --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 23:59, 18 August 2012 (CDT)

==You were right to ban that ten year old==
Brilliant detective work. I think there should be a LOWER age limit. "Violent Shit"? "The House on Creepy Lane?" How on earth did this kid get his short films listed on IMDB?? The mods must have been asleep that day. Wasn't there a link to a film that was basically RUSSIAN elementary school kids acting some sort of story with airsoft guns? I wonder if you remember that. best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:13, 19 August 2012 (CDT)
:Even though Violent Shit and Zombie Panic 90 were purportedly full length features, there is NO WAY a feature length film made by a 10 year old would qualify under our current criteria. It would be near impossible. It would have to be distributed by someone OTHER than the film's maker and there is no way a 10 year old could make something that was deemed professional enough to merit inclusion. My comment about the lower age limit, was just sarcasm. I agree that it would be hard to enforce. We just have to be wary of any new member that seems really young. At least this guy was honest about his age. The fact that he was born AFTER 9/11 means he has never known a world without Usama Bin Laden and his ilk [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
::BTW, there is a restriction in [[Imfdb :. guns in movies :. movie guns :. the internet movie firearms database:Privacy policy|Privacy policy]]: "Our site is not directed to children under the age of 13". So any membership of 10 years old (regardless of his behavior) is a violation of rules, right? [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 12:41, 19 August 2012 (CDT)
:::Hmmmmm. Good catch [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]]. I am certainly intrigued by this idea. Also to Funkychinaman, Thanks for the update. I didn't know what these movies were, and I'm not ashamed to say I've never seen them (which is saying a lot). There are a lot of films distributed by low rent direct to video types (like Sub Rosa) which I'm not thrilled to include. BTW, Funkychinaman do you remember the link to the movie in the snow with the assault rifles made by the Bulgarian kids? I was laughing so hard when I saw that, and then it was gone.... 15:18, 20 August 2012 (CDT)

== Under 13s ==

It's a legal thing, if I recall correctly; below a certain age a site effectively has a requirement to babysit users, which is why most sites which have account registration won't take accounts by anyone under 12 (most TOSes have a clause like that). [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:58, 19 August 2012 (CDT)
:I'd ask Bunni, he's the one who'd be dealing with any legal issues after all. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:01, 19 August 2012 (CDT)

== Expendables 2: Videogame ==

My bad. Thanks for correcting my mistake. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 16:22, 19 August 2012 (CDT)

== The Democratic Terrorist ==
Hi Funkychinaman! I've now uploaded some quite good quality pictures of the gun used by Monica in TDT (DDT). I still honestly can't say if it's a PPK, that I belived before, and do a bit now to, or a SIG-Sauer P230. I've also uploaded two new pictures of a P230 on it's discussion page, it's the two latter ones, they are blued. On those pictures an older SIG is pressented and that might be what Monica's gun is, based on the slide serrations. But please look and think for you're self, as two minds is better than one! ([[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]])

== Re DDT ==

I totally forgot that she had the same pistol in the final scene. And for the record, I only used the stainless pistols because at the time, those were the only pair of PP and P230 images that pointed to the right. --Funkychinaman 18:33, 19 August 2012 (CDT)
:Well do you still think its a SIG-Sauer P230 and not a Walther PPK? If you do I think so I think we should go with it on the page. [[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] 18:53, 19 August 2012 (CDT)

== Heroes & Generals ==

I have the key to the Beta Test. I play this game for 2 weeks.--[[User:Mateogala|MTOOO]] 06:30, 22 August 2012 (CDT) :)

This game is really good. I would recommend in the future.--[[User:Mateogala|MTOOO]] 06:49, 22 August 2012 (CDT)

== S&W M1 ==

The funny thing was I was about to post the same thing on your Discussion page... --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:36, 24 August 2012 (CDT)

== "[[Go Tell the Spartans]]" Mauser identification. ==

In the first pic the Old Man is definitely holding a [[Gewehr 98]]. It sill has the large ''Lange-Visier'' rear sight and the bolt handle is at the rear of the receiver, rather than in the middle as on the M71/84. The second pic could be a M71/84; the front sight looks right and the stock appears to contain a tubular magazine. The third pic looks like a [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin-Nagant 91/30]], with the long spacing between the two barrel bands and what looks like the "dog collar" sling loops going through the stock. It might also be a Lebel 1886, but the stock bulging downward as it nears the receiver makes me think Mosin. I think these are probably continuity errors. I really wish we could see the receiver better. I hope this helps.

== Thanks for help! ==

Once again I want to thank you for help. When I have problems with identification, your help is very valuable. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 01:16, 28 August 2012 (CDT)

== Re: Update ==

Yes. I had totally forgot about the existence of the page. I still got the screencaps on my PC. But it'll take some time to get it done, I've got a couple of pages on queue right now, and I'm currently on leave from the army. Altough, I'm going back today, our leisure time is limited. I'll do my best to get it finished soon. Best Regards, --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 08:17, 28 August 2012 (CDT)

== 'Redirects in 'Elephant White' ==

Hi, sorry to get back to you so late but I don't have the luxury to check/edit IMFDB on a very regular basis. On my TalkPage you said you put 'redirects' in the page for [[Elephant White]] that I created, and asked me to do the same. Stupid question maybe, but what exactly do you mean here? Pardon my ignorance but I value your experience on these matters, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] 15:27, 29 August 2012 (CDT)

== Splitting ==

Oh I thought an admin was going to do that. So I'll get started on it.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] 12:17, 31 August 2012 (CDT)

== One for the Money ==

Sorry, I forgot I already had some screenshots for the movie. I don't think I got everything. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 22:49, 3 September 2012 (CDT)

== Some Updates ==

When you have a minute, check out the new documentation for the {{Cl|Banner}} templates. Also, something you might be able to help me with. We need to move everything from the {{cl|Templates|Template<big>'''s'''</big>}} category to the {{cl|Template}} category. Categories are not supposed to be plural. Thanks man! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 13:24, 6 September 2012 (EDT)
:Um seriously??? You are like a MACHINE! THANK YOU! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 14:15, 6 September 2012 (EDT)
::HAHA!!! love it! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 15:08, 6 September 2012 (EDT)

==The Democratic Terrorist Trivia Updates==

Just added some information about the weapons featured in the novel from 1987 that the movie is based on. Please have a look and tell me what you think, it's quite long though. --[[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 22:53, 23 September 2012 (EDT)

==[[I Am Alive]]==
Screenshots corrected. Removed black bars.--[[User:Mateogala|MTOOO]] ([[User talk:Mateogala|talk]]) 06:11, 24 September 2012 (EDT)

== Avengers ==

Are you working on screenshots for Avengers? Are they Blu-ray? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 16:17, 25 September 2012 (EDT)

== RE:Beat me to it. ==

I think this guy needs to be kept an eye on, as that Italian he used is suspiciously exactly what comes out of Google translate if you put in the English text so I have a slight suspicion it may be someone pretending to be Italian just to mess stuff up. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:38, 27 September 2012 (EDT)

== Error file name ==

I know, I also by the title "Error name" please of delete duplicated picture. I'm sorry and thx.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 17:06, 27 September 2012 (EDT). Thx for this.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 17:27, 27 September 2012 (EDT)

== Basic Instinkt ==

Thanx very much! I re-make on the second teil ...--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 14:48, 28 September 2012 (EDT)

== TV movie ==

Aha - I did not know! However, it completely changes the situation. I moved all guns in section movies. --[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 02:06, 9 October 2012 (EDT)

== RE: Mobile Fighter G Gundam ==

Alrighty then! I'm adding a screenshot I have.-[[User:The Gunslinger 3|The Gunslinger 3]] ([[User talk:The Gunslinger 3|talk]]) 13:47, 16 October 2012 (EDT)

1. Idon't have DVDs of it sadly. 2. I'm trying to watch the show ep by ep on Youtube. (I haven't seen it in like 10 years since Toonami)-[[User:The Gunslinger 3|The Gunslinger 3]] ([[User talk:The Gunslinger 3|talk]]) 13:47, 16 October 2012 (EDT)

== Graphic screen ==

What is "graphic screencaps"? "The back of someone's head blowing out would certainly qualify as graphic." - this sentence is not a compiler able to translate clearly. It sounds as " some of blowing the nape of the head".--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 14:46, 18 October 2012 (EDT)Oh - you mean Peter Coyot! O.K.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 14:50, 18 October 2012 (EDT) Every actor in one paper is provided with reference to only one, why x - times to repeat the same link.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 15:51, 18 October 2012 (EDT)

== My way of typing. ==

My apologies, but I type this way to save time. ESPECIALLY when I'm doing something that requires more time than usual. E.G: playing at the final level of a video game thats the toughest than all the other levels. (I usually have a hard time beating levels at the climax of games). People on YouTube do this all the time.--[[User:Gunnerboy|Gunnerboy]] ([[User talk:Gunnerboy|talk]]) 20:43, 18 October 2012 (EDT)

== [[Hennessy]] answer ==

[[User_talk:REPLICAwrittendowntheside#Hennessy|Answered on my Talk page]]. [[User:REPLICAwrittendowntheside|REPLICAwrittendowntheside]] ([[User talk:REPLICAwrittendowntheside|talk]]) 13:15, 21 October 2012 (EDT)

== Usernames. ==

VERY good catch. Thank you for that! I TOTALLY missed that... --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 17:30, 2 November 2012 (EDT)

== The Border ==

I lost most of my movies including "The Border" recently so I got nothing to get screens from. And noone else is interested so I guess its fair enough to delete the article. If I find a HD quality of the movie I'll take and post screens to the article. [[User:Dudster32|Dudster32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 16:59, 7 November 2012 (EST)

== Farscape ==

Hello, I wanted to start the article about the TV series Farscape. When I tried to create this article I got the following warning: "Warning: You are recreating a page that was previously deleted. BEFORE you recreate this page, please check with an ADMIN and make sure you understand WHY the page was deleted. Recreating a page that was deleted by simply placing the same text is forbidden and can result in being banned from editing on the wiki." -[[User:Wicket1138|Wicket1138]] ([[User talk:Wicket1138|talk]]) 22:13, 15 November 2012 (EST)
:Thx for your reply. Yes, there are real firearms in Farscape. They used Australian made L1A1 rifles for alien soldiers in one episode, which also have two real armored cars the Australian forces use and several episodes are actually set on earth where they have real firearms. -[[User:Wicket1138|Wicket1138]] ([[User talk:Wicket1138|talk]]) 01:49, 16 November 2012 (EST)

== Killing is my business Honey screencaps ==

Cropping and reupload is no problem, but it may take a while. [[User:Seven6twoGER|Seven6twoGER]]
:Have you got any ideas on possible IDs yet? Particularly Marinos pistol. [[User:Seven6twoGER|Seven6twoGER]]
::IDing that Danuvia like a pro. Nice work, man. [[User:Seven6twoGER|Seven6twoGER]]

== Thank You ==

Thank You! Will try not to disappoint anyone. - [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] ([[User talk:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|talk]]) 15:01, 8 December 2012 (EST)

== Monika's Gun ==

Sorry if I can't let it go but I still think Monika's gun in The Democratic Terrorist is a Walther PPK, I've added my observations and explanations to the talk page so will you please read them and look at it and tell me what you think about it. [[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 16:28, 11 December 2012 (EST)
:Well about the Walther P5, if you look closely on that screencap you might see that the front of that gun appear to have the same shape as that of a P5, sort of like a triangular shape up to the barrel. Don't you agree? I'm interested in what you think. Also have you read the new stuff I wrote about Monika's pistol on the talk page with the pictures and explanations of why I see it as a PPK, what do you think about it? [[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 18:57, 11 December 2012 (EST)

:Now I have put up variants of the pictures that point out the details of the gun/guns in the pictures with colored lines, I hope you can spot them now. It's furthest down on the entry "Monika's Pistol". Do you see it now? [[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 20:46, 11 December 2012 (EST)

:Can you see the details I pointed out in the new photos with Monika's guns? [[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 16:16, 12 December 2012 (EST)

:Okey, yea outside opinions are probably a good thing, well tell me when you've got their opinion. [[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 05:06, 13 December 2012 (EST)

:I haven't thought about it or seen it before and I CAN'T say that a can definatly see it now, but if I watch closely on this picture there might be an allusion to a safety/decocker on the slide there, but I'm not shure because the image isn't clear/sharp enough.
:Have you heard any outside opinins yet? What does other people think? [[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 11:37, 17 December 2012 (EST)
[[Image:DDTMonica'sPistol 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

:Okey, well then we'll, or rather I'll, just wait until others take a look at it then. Sorry for being so persistent, hope you're not compleatly sick of me yet. Also I'm about to start work on the next Hamilton movie/filmation, Enemy's Enemy (Fiendens Fiende). [[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 15:44, 17 December 2012 (EST)

==Too Soon?==

As seen in the recent changes page Im preparing to make a page for the movie "Higher Learning". While the film has themes of neo-nazism, and the like (which several other movies on the site have) there is a scene where a school shooting takes place. I was wondering if the page should be held off for a while due to the tragedy in Connecticut since some might say it would be too soon for a page with a similar event. I will still upload photos but if it is decided that it is too soon then I will save the progress I have made into notepad and make the page at a later date.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 22:27, 16 December 2012 (EST)

== Spambots ==

I'm not sure if this is what they try to do, but always blank the "content was..." section of the edit summary so it doesn't re-post their link in recent changes. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 02:59, 18 December 2012 (EST)
:Thanks for catching that! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 10:58, 18 December 2012 (EST)

== R-Point ==

Yes I do. The screenshots are currently WiP, need to verify some weapons. --[[User:RaNgeR|RaNgeR]] ([[User talk:RaNgeR|talk]]) 02:39, 21 December 2012 (EST)

:Oops, sorry for the confusion :P --[[User:RaNgeR|RaNgeR]] ([[User talk:RaNgeR|talk]]) 02:46, 21 December 2012 (EST)

== Trying to ID a pistol ==

I'm working on some shots for ''Binary Domain'' since I decided to have another go at it after remembering I had it on Steam, trying to figure out what the handguns NPCs usually use are.

[[Image:BinaryDomain-Pistol-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:BinaryDomain-Pistol-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

My guess is some kind of SIG, but I'm not that sure. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 12:15, 21 December 2012 (EST)

== RE: Red Heat ==

I do understand the weapon was discussed on the Red Heat discussion page but clearly the gun is not a S&W 66 its not even a .357!

== RE: Incomplete ==

I would love to complete Razorback and The Collector. However, I do not own copies of them. I will try to obtain copies eventually, but I need to start saving money as I am going to be starting my second semester of my freshman year of college in January.

Blackthorn, I pretty much got everything I.D.'d, except for the unknowns.
I believe the Bolivian boy is using a Colt 1878 Double Action, and the other revolver is a Colt Lightning. And the Bolivian Army's rifle is, I am assuming, the vz. 24 rifle or FN Model 1924 short rifle. But I don't really want to speculate as the article's screencaps are the best ones I got. And I do not want to go and, pardon my French, "half-ass" it by just putting up a firearm that looks like a "close enough match", and wait for a more knowledgable user to go and update the page for me.

I'll go and make the changes though. - [[User:1morey]] December 26, 2012 8:23 PM (EST)

== Return from the River Kwai ==

I have ''[[Return from the River Kwai]]'' in my disposal and will try to complete this page, but a little later, in a week or two, I suppose. Please move it from "noeffort" back to "incomplete" for some time. Thanks. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 05:56, 27 December 2012 (EST)

== Legend of the Fist: The Return of Chen Zhen - Mauser Identification ==
Wow, this is a tough one to ID. It appears to be a Chinese M1907 Mauser. These were originally chambered in a proprietary 6.8x58mm Chinese cartridge. These rifles were manufactured in Germany and China. When WW1 broke out the Germans seized all M1907 rifles still in the country and re-barrelled them for 7.9x57mm Mauser.--[[User:Stomper|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper|talk]]) 15:08, 30 December 2012 (EST)

[[File:Chinese_M1907_mauser.jpg]]

== No Effort ==

I thought the holidays would give users more time to work on it, but two weeks is acceptable for this time. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 03:36, 31 December 2012 (EST)

== I see you are reading my mind ==

You should stop, there's some really weird stuff in there. :D [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 02:51, 10 January 2013 (EST)

:To be honest I wouldn't mind adding a little section at the end of actor pages just to list other works they've contributed to for the sake of completeness and giving full credit; IIRC the rule exists to stop, say, an actor list getting clogged with every weapon in an FPS even though the actor probably never handled any of them (same with mocap where the weapons are usually plastic replicas (''Uncharted III'') or crude frames (''Battlefield 3'')), but I don't think a little "name of work" - "role" - "character" table would be a terrible thing to have (eg Chow Yun-Fat would have ''[[Stranglehold]]'' - Voice acting, motion capture - Inspector "Tequila" Yuen). [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 03:06, 10 January 2013 (EST)

== Blackguineapig ==

It is. Dont worry about it. He contacted us. He misspelled it the first time, that's all. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 20:01, 17 January 2013 (EST)

== How is my page on "Amerika" not meeting the criteria? ==

What am I doing wrong? Am I not incorporating enough data? What is it? --[[User:KLange|KLange]] ([[User talk:KLange|talk]]) 16:14, 18 January 2013 (EST)

"Did you consider that page complete?" Of course not, but I planned on creating a bare bones type of page, to which other people who saw the mini could add on.
"And probably most important, how is anyone suppose to watch this or get screen captures if it's never gotten a DVD release?" It's on YouTube, if you're interested. --[[User:KLange|KLange]] ([[User talk:KLange|talk]]) 04:56, 19 January 2013 (EST)

== Some pages from Incomplete category ==

Hi! I have examined Incomplete category (searching for the pages that I'll be able to complete), and it seems to me that there are several pages that look complete and can be removed from Incomplete. Here is the list of these pages. Maybe you will have a little time to look on them and make a decision: ''[[1968 Tunnel Rats]]''; ''[[All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)]]''; ''[[Escape to Witch Mountain]]''; ''[[Infestation]]''; ''[[Machine Gun Preacher]]''; ''[[One in the Chamber]]''; ''[[Outrage]]''; ''[[Over the Edge]]''; ''[[Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides]]''; ''[[Race to Witch Mountain]]''; ''[[Reform School Girls]]''; ''[[Road, The]]''; ''[[Texas Killing Fields]]''; ''[[Transporter 2]]''; ''[[Winter's Bone]]''. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 01:08, 21 January 2013 (EST)
: Thank you for clarification. It's a pity that so much pages are still incomplete, but I now understand clearly why they are in this category. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:03, 21 January 2013 (EST)

== Skyfall ==

Got those shots up; can't say I have any idea what it is, but it does very closely match the best image we have from the movie and it looks bulky enough to be built around a real weapon action.

Also to elaborate on what I said there; you fight Patrice in an empty, unfurnished office with glass dividers, but the glass doors are indestructible. Since they only give you the P99 (which is, you know, totally the right thing to do when there's an actual PPK model in the game) you spend most of your time ducking around an indestructible door firing off entire magazines at him while he either shoots at you from ten yards away with a laser-sighted sniper rifle or throws grenades at you, seemingly ignoring the glass dividers to do so.

I'm going to be putting the first part of the Goldfinger mission up on my Youtube channel soon because it's hilariously awful. The melee gimmick has to be seen to be believed. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 11:18, 22 January 2013 (EST)

== Incompletes ==

Well, I think that somebody has to complete such pages. :) It's a pity to see them in such condition, so I do what I can. I'm working now on ''[[Shadow Man]]'' which is also in poor condition. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 00:05, 23 January 2013 (EST)

== screenshot size ==

When the original source video is not high quality, I change the size so it's not as noticeable. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 18:24, 25 January 2013 (EST)

== Page creation ==

Hi there, thanks for your remark, good point. I guess the way I do this the way I do it, is simply that I just hate to see movie pages with links in 'red', usually these are pages where people don't follow through with what they have started. As you guessed correctly, I first prepare all links and when I put the movie-page online, it's all nice and clean from the start. Good point about saving time through suggestions though, I will take care to reverse my actions from my next movie, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 14:32, 26 January 2013 (EST)
:Thanks for the encouraging remark about the red links. Thing is that I feel that if you create a page on IMFDB you don't leave loose ends and also correctly complete the 'boring' work like actor/gun pages. Anyway, guess that's the Wiki aspect of the whole thing :-), --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 15:09, 26 January 2013 (EST)

== AKS ==

I put this on [[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]]s discussion page but I haven't got any answer, maybe he has not read it yet I don't know. So now I ask you as you are also an administrator. May this picture and information be added to the main AK-47 page? The picture is of what was officially designated as a ''Облегченный 7,62-мм автомат Калашникова со складным прикладом (АКС)'', translated to ''Lightweight 7.62 mm automatic Kalashnikov with a folding stock (AKS)'', and what is referred to in the West as an AK-47 Type III.

[[Image:DeactivatedAKS(1954-59).jpg|thumb|350px|none|''Lightweight 7.62 mm automatic Kalashnikov with a folding stock (AKS)'' - 7.62x39mm]]

Here is a picture from some old Russian manual or document showing the full stock version called simply ''Облегченный 7,62-мм автомат Калашникова (АК)''.
[[Image:Lightweight 7.62 mm automatic Kalashnikov.jpg|thumb|350px|none|''Lightweight 7.62 mm automatic Kalashnikov (AK)'' - 7.62x39mm]]

--[[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 12:53, 28 January 2013 (EST)

== Zulu Dawn ==

Hi there, good to see you again. NV is indeed something Dutch, it means something like 'Limited' and describes a legal way a company is organized. Being Dutch, I was checking the category 'Dutch produced' and I removed this movie because in my view there's nothing 'Dutch' to it. The only Dutch connection is probably for tax reasons or something. However, checking the Style Guide, I noticed I was wrong, so I will make that movoe again 'Dutch' no matter how strange that seems to me as a Dutch person. Sorry, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 03:22, 30 January 2013 (EST)
:Yup, ''[[Outsider, The (1980)|The Outsider]]'' had me wondering as well. Let's just go with the 'production rule-of-thumb', even if it's not perfect. After all, it's about the guns, right? Take care, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 16:05, 30 January 2013 (EST)

== Move tool ==

Thanks for reminding me of the Move Tool on top of a page, I totally forgot about that. Will keep in mind for future use, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 03:14, 5 February 2013 (EST)

== Real guns in movies? ==

You use in the U.S. real functional guns in movies? For us it was formerly under the communists, too. Today, but that's not allowed. Then there was the Army Film and they had a special permit. In the current legislation, are allowed to holding of guns only for the police, soldiers (automatic weapons then never individually, only under command) and persons with special permission (never automatic!), which the filmmakers are not. Therefore For us it is not possible, that the boy home took a submachine gun and went to shoots the whole school.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 05:04, 7 February 2013 (EST) Certainly he's right, these replicas may fires, but can not use live ammunition. O.K. Funky, I changed this problematic screenshot. It is nonsense, according to him drive because true that nearly what part, he uses another replica with another extraction. There would then be only chaos.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 17:37, 7 February 2013 (EST)

== Professional (1981) ==

I know that it is the U.S. title. I did not change it too. I just removed the redundant year and replaced it with the original title.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 17:49, 8 February 2013 (EST)Oh, it's that Leon The Professional = I did not know. But the principle of a resolution is the same . Only the Year replaced the original name.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 17:57, 8 February 2013 (EST)What is it? How is it done? Can you help? BTW: Leon is here no as "The Professional", but "Leon: The Professional". It is unnecessary duplicated information. Year after all given in parentheses after each title.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 18:10, 8 February 2013 (EST) This is cleverly done! For the method of writing title in a variety of categories it has no adverse effect. O.K. Thx, Funky.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 18:29, 8 February 2013 (EST) With the exception of one category: French Produced/Filmed. There's makes mischief. There's a stupid year to see, unfortunately--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 18:48, 8 February 2013 (EST)

== Widescreen 600px ==

I thought it was accepted that High Quality screencaps for Widescreen films in the "2.35 to 1", "1.85 to 1" or "16x9" aspect ratio get only up to 600px. "Square" 4x3 aspect ratio gets up to 500px depending on the quality of the screencap. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 19:21, 10 February 2013 (EST)

: I believe it probably should stay at 600px to avoid any confusion and that the fact that the majority of the widescreen films on the site only go up to 600px. Typically, non 2.35 to 1 films were given 500px, but with the advent of more HD and Blu-ray caps, bumping up to 600px was logical. You mentioned in the forum that 700px makes non HD widescreen films appear to be lower in resolution and I agree. There are rare exceptions for films that were shot in an ultra widescreen format like Cinerama (such as [[How the West Was Won]] or [[Battle of the Bulge]]). --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 19:45, 10 February 2013 (EST)\

:: I posted it in the forum. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 20:08, 10 February 2013 (EST)

== Category Shortcuts ==

Here are some category shortcuts I've created that might be helpful to put on the style page. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 21:28, 11 February 2013 (EST)

<nowiki>{{ActorF}}</nowiki> = <nowiki>[[Category:Actor]] and [[Category:Actor Female]]</nowiki>

<nowiki>{{ActorM}}</nowiki> = <nowiki>[[Category:Actor]] and [[Category:Actor Male]]</nowiki>

<nowiki>{{Film War}}</nowiki> = <nowiki>[[Category:Movie]] and [[Category:War]]</nowiki>

<nowiki>{{Film Comedy}}</nowiki> = <nowiki>[[Category:Movie]] and [[Category:Comedy]]</nowiki>

<nowiki>{{SS}}</nowiki> = <nowiki>[[Category:Screenshot]]</nowiki>

<nowiki>{{PCA}}</nowiki> = <nowiki>[[Category:Poster and Cover Art]]</nowiki>

== Dance with the Devil ==

Please don't delete ''[[Dance with the Devil]]'' page for some time. I'll try to complete it in a week or two. Thanks. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:16, 13 February 2013 (EST)

== Body Heat page looks complete now ==

After [[User:Elzzupa|Elzzupa]] added screenshots on the ''[[Body Heat]]'' page, it's no more Incomplete. I think that removing Incomplete tag will be better made by moderator. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 09:03, 17 February 2013 (EST)

== Spy Who Loved Me Jaws Revovler On Talk Page ==

About Jaws revovler, could you take a look at my entry about it in the talk page and see if you can spot anything about it that I simply can't, I would be very grateful. I'm also putting this request on the discussion page for both [[User:Commando552|Commando552]] and [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] besides yours. --16:27, 17 February 2013 (EST)

== User:Mandolin last edits ==

I complain at last activity of [[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]]. First, I know that my English is not perfect, but it doesn't deserve such insulting comments as Mandolin made while removing text from [[Carrie Snodgress]] page. And second, last edits on ''[[Murphy's Law]]'' page removed valuable info (for example, the fact that Joan Freeman uses two different Rugers). I would like to undo those edits but I'll wait until the problem of such destructive edits will be solved by moderator in general. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 01:37, 18 February 2013 (EST)
:Thank you! [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:04, 18 February 2013 (EST)
:: I don't use online translators. All mistakes in my edits are my own, not of some dumb computer. :) [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:14, 18 February 2013 (EST)

== 20,000 Leagues ==

It's very odd. The title as seen in the film doesn't have the comma, but all the posters, dvd covers and the trailer title have it. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 02:13, 18 February 2013 (EST)

== Re: SNL ==

Over 700 episodes? Well I started Season 1 (just finished up episode four) so if anything I intended to complete that at least. Whether I decide to do the other seasons is something to think over. [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 01:47, 19 February 2013 (EST)

Well screencaping 738 episodes is just something I do not have the time for so I may as well quit while it's not too late and have the photos deleted. I apologize for this mistake and take full responsibility for it.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 02:04, 19 February 2013 (EST)

== The Democratic Terrorist Book Guns ==

If you don't have any objection I'm gonna remove the section about the guns in the novel as it doesn't teally fit in, it looks wierd. I might do a re-wright about it later or you could do it if you want, all the info about it is there. I got the idea from the talk page for No Country For Old Men but it looks way better there. So what do you say, should/can I remove it? --[[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 19:42, 19 February 2013 (EST)

== Re: ''Enterprise'' Flintlock ==

I believe it's on the far left side of the display. There's a flintlock rifle and a revolver there as well. Also, I can't help but think the weapon the mirror universe version of Zefram Cochrane uses to kill the Vulcans in the alternate version of first contact is based on some kind of shotgun. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] ([[User talk:Orca1 9904|talk]]) 20:49, 23 February 2013 (EST)

==Featured Page Nomination==

I just finished up the Steele Justice page and was wondering if it was worthy of being a featured page.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] ([[User talk:Mr.Ice|talk]]) 15:15, 25 February 2013 (EST)

==Dobermann Screenshots==
Hi, I've already uploaded a censored version but I will upload a further censored one. -[[User:Wicket1138|Wicket1138]] ([[User talk:Wicket1138|talk]]) 13:42, 26 February 2013 (EST)

== Colt New Line ==

Hi Funckychinaman. You linked [[Belgian Bulldog Pocket Revolver]] (a red link for the moment) in the [[Rachel McAdams]] page. This is ok since the gun appears in the 2009 [[Sherlock Holmes]] film. I think the .32 Bulldog was an English gun, not Belgian, but that's not the point. The point is that, I guess, a red link allows the creation of the corresponding article.... and the link [[Colt New Line]] was red before I've created it (and even before I've created my IMFDB account). Indeed, the gun is listed and linked ([[:File:Colt New Line.jpg|with its corresponding photogram]]) in the article refering to the ''[[Deadwood]]'' television series (please, check "Colt New Line" in the [[Deadwood]] article and let me point out that the link [[Colt New Line]] and the mention of the gun were not due to my own action, they already existed before my arrival on this wiki). The caliber configuration in the ''Deadwood'' episode is the .22, so I find it's ok if you delete the article about the .38 caliber configuration ([[Colt New Line 38 Caliber Revolver|that one]], and please, note that it was not created by me), but the article about the gun itself, [[Colt New Line]], should be created since it is linked in the article about the ''[[Deadwood]]'' TV series, where it can be seen on screen. Regards. [[User:Kintaro|Kintaro]] ([[User talk:Kintaro|talk]]) 09:01, 2 March 2013 (EST)
:Ok then, roger roger :). I've created the apropriated link, [[Colt New Line|here]], and I added it to the corresponding line in the [[Colt's Manufacturing Company]] article. Now, if you agree, I suggest to delete [[Talk:Colt New Line Revolver|this]] and [[Talk:Colt New Line 38 Caliber Revolver|this]], since they are non-suitable pages. Cheers! [[User:Kintaro|Kintaro]] ([[User talk:Kintaro|talk]]) 23:12, 4 March 2013 (EST)

==Deletion==

Approx. I fixed it. The photos are ready to be removed. --[[User:Mateogala|MTOOO]] ([[User talk:Mateogala|talk]]) 16:40, 3 March 2013 (EST)

== "The Border 1918" (2007) ==

Hey man!
You deleted my article "The Border 1918" back in the day because of lack of content which is fair enough. You also mentioned I could ask you to restore the article once I got my shit in order (hehe). Your quote: "I've preserved the code on the talk page for you if ever decide to continue with it." Well I'm more or less ready now for uploading photos and info on that article. How do we proceed? I do not know how to ressurect the article myself. [[User:Dudster32|Dudster32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 15:20, 4 March 2013 (EST)
:Thanks for restoring the article! :) Hopefully its alot better now. Let me know if/when something needs to be approved on the article. All the best! /Fred..(Dudster) Dudester32 14:12, 5 March 2013 (EST)

== hell is hpr heroes ==

I'll look into it. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 11:41, 7 March 2013 (EST)

== Removed "Work in progress" for "The Border" ==

Hey dude!
I removed the "Work in progress" tag for [[ Border, The (2007)|The Border 1918]]. As I see it there is not much more to add to the article. Dudester32 15:06, 8 March 2013 (EST)

== Re: Headings ==

As you can see, I corrected my/other people's mistakes on some actor pages. I did not know about this standardization, and had been meaning to ask an admin. But now I know, thanks to you --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 13:40, 9 March 2013 (EST)

== Re: Total Recall ==

I'm doing the page, and the shots are, even though hi-res, from trailers. I'm re-uppin' them to keep consitency over the images of the page, ie. so that if one picture doesn't have a blue stint, the others don't have that too. I always do that, no matter what page, if there are trailer shots from ages ago, i reupload them. Look at [[Paul]]'s history, same thing. Like you once said, there needs to be consistency on the database, and I think that needs to be the case with the pages, too. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 12:09, 10 March 2013 (EDT)

:No problem. It's good to see we agree on something, lol :D But anyways, I'm currently working on the page and adding caps, and I'll be done with the page today.

Oh and by the way, what is the correct abbreviation for Sergeant Major in the USMC? I know you're a pro on the Navy, but do you know USMC? --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 12:38, 10 March 2013 (EDT)

::Thank you, I'll be needing that for an upcoming project. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 12:45, 10 March 2013 (EDT)

== Adding a Swedish named film (featuring non-english characters) ==

Hey!
I want to add an entry for a 1979 cult Swedish movie named "Repmånad", which is roughly translated as "(army) refresher course". In Sweden we used to have a system of yearly conscription which saw thousands of people drafted and trained every year for a 7-15 month military service period. This movie is a sort of parody on the required month of "refresher training" those former conscripts had to do several years after their discharge from the army. The problem is, I dont know if I should create an article with the original Swedish name of the movie: "Repmånad", as it contains a swedish unique (Å) letter. A further problem is I also dont know of an English translation of "Repmånad"...So what do you think? Should I try and find an alternative translation or can I use a Swedish one? Dudester32 15:53, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

:I had never seen the IMDB version until now. I think I can make it work with "The Callup" as a primary article name, with "Repmånad" as a redirect. Dudester32 16:10, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

::Roger that! Too bad there isnt a bluray version out yet, but I'll make do with the DVD version! Thanks for yer help dude! Dudester32 16:44, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

== Cold Prey screencaps? ==

Sorry, I don't really know how to take the screencaps from the "Cold Prey" movie, unless if you know how to take the screencaps of the movie, that be great.

Also, since I'm new in to creating pages like a movies, it'd be nice if you can tell me how to take the screencaps from a film (just for any future pages I'll be able to think of making).

--[[User:Garsenal|Garsenal]] ([[User talk:Garsenal|talk]]) 23:01, 11 March 2013 (EDT)[[Garsenal]] ([[talk]])

== Re: Red Dawn redirect ==

I hear 'ya. After I have completed the page for the 2012 verson, I'll fix all the links for the actors, don't worry. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 10:08, 12 March 2013 (EDT)

== Blog ==

Let me know when you are done with the post. I encourage you to add some pictures. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ''IMFDB Chief of Operations'' ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 19:22, 12 March 2013 (EDT)
:HAHA! Try the add media button? If its giving you problems, feel free to just put them in plain text at the bottom. Like "http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:SOMEIMAGE.jpg" "The caption for the image" and I will convert it. You might not have the required privileges to add images, I'm not sure. (We're still learning the wordpress software ourselves). --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ''IMFDB Chief of Operations'' ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 19:27, 12 March 2013 (EDT)
::Try now. You might have to log out and then log back in. You are now able to post... Please do NOT. When you finish, drop me or Bunni a line and we will look it over then give you the green light. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ''IMFDB Chief of Operations'' ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 19:33, 12 March 2013 (EDT)
:::Has to be uploaded. They are technically different websites. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ''IMFDB Chief of Operations'' ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 20:05, 12 March 2013 (EDT)
::::Let me know when its ready to go. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ''IMFDB Chief of Operations'' ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 18:36, 15 March 2013 (EDT)
:::::It's not you. The preview function is broken. Ill message you the trick on the forum. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ''IMFDB Chief of Operations'' ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 19:11, 15 March 2013 (EDT)

== Kulspruta M1936 ==

Dude, the [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Swedishkulsprutam1936.jpg machinegun photo] was taken from a [http://www.digitaltmuseum.se/things/lavett-till-kulspruta-m1936/S-AM/AM.042161?js=1&query=kulspruta+m/1936&rows=72&sort_by=&page=1&js=1&search_context=1&count=694&pos=34 Swedish Museum site] and not an Army Manual!. So why is the photo at the Callup article different from my original upload? Dudester32 17:53, 14 March 2013 (EDT)
:Oh..I got confused since you used the exact same name as the file I uploaded..and as of this moment it hasnt updated to your new version. :) Dudester32 18:00, 14 March 2013 (EDT)

== Pages aren't in their category ==

How come some of the pages I've created aren't in their categories. Like when I'm not logged in I don't see the page that I made in the categories sections.

Examples, would be like the page "[[Zombie-Loan]]" when I go to the anime category. I don't see "[[Zombie-Loan]]" and I even put '''<nowiki>[[Category:Anime]]</nowiki>''', but it only shows up in the anime categories when I'm logged in.

Do I have to wait for a while for my page to be shown up in their category section.
--[[User:Garsenal|Garsenal]] ([[User talk:Garsenal|talk]])

== Re: All Quiet on the Western Front ==
My bad. All done. --[[User: Crackshot|Crackshot]] ([[User talk:Crackshot|talk]]) 14:51, 18 March 2013 (EST)

== Spy Who Loved Me ==

Hi, wanted to consult you about something. After looking around for a while I've started to think that Jaws revolver could be an 1970s model (Tapered barrel and no ejector shroud) [[Charter Arms Bulldog]] in caliber .357 with a 6 inch. But I've checked around and I'm a bit confused. Wikipedia says that the Bulldog only had barrel lengths of either 2.5 or 2.2 inches but I've found pictures of Bulldogs with 6 inch barrels. I know Wikipedia isn’t to be trusted but still. Also, do you know the difference between the Bulldog and the Target Bulldog models. If the Target Bulldog was the ones made available with 6 inch barrels it might be that model. What do you think? --[[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 08:13, 19 March 2013 (EDT)

:I don't know if their the same I just assumed that. But they appear to be~the same based on their overall shape and appearance. The only other revolver type I've found that has a similar shape in the frame as Jaws revolver, maybe even more so than the Bulldog actually, is some of the make Astra. But they all appear to have shrouded ejector rods and none of the ones I've found have tapered barrels and that style of front sight. --[[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 11:23, 19 March 2013 (EDT)

:His revolver does actually have a LOT in common with an Astra .357 Magnum revolver. See this link:
[[http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.ap?co=49947&weiid=8440564&lang=En]]

The only thing that's of is the front sight and that the ejector rod on Jaws revolver appears to be only semi-shrouded if you understand what I mean. Maybe (it’s possible, and I don't know the reason for such a modification) they had sawed or filed away the part of the shroud that covered the ejector rod on the sides but kept the front of it. --[[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 11:39, 19 March 2013 (EDT)

:Okey, no I haven’t but I'll do that right now, thanks very much for the tip!
Another thing, the shape of the muzzle of Sandor's gun as he's about to shoot doesn't look like the muzzle of a M1911A1. I don't know what it is, maybe a Colt Model 1903/1908 or a FN Browning 1903, but as you can only see the muzzle I don't know. But a M1911A1 it ain’t. Ideas? --[[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 12:12, 19 March 2013 (EDT)

:Here's a link to a photo of the muzzle of a Pocket Hammerless in .32 acp and a photo of Sandor's gun, do you think look think they could be the same? --[[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 12:35, 19 March 2013 (EDT)

[[http://httpwww.coltautos.com/images/1903ph_118197g_IMG_0320.jpg#]]
[[Image:Tswlm-1911a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sandor aims and fires.]]

:Then I'll put it under the Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless section instead. --[[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 12:47, 19 March 2013 (EDT)

== Original language title in parentheses necessary? ==

Is it really necessary to have the original language in parentheses for such movies as [[Code Name Coq Rouge (Täcknamn Coq Rouge)]], [[Olsen Gang, The (Olsen-banden)]], [[Olsen Gang Runs Amok, The (Olsen-banden går amok)]], [[Olsen Gang in Jutland, The (Olsen-banden i Jylland)]], [[Olsen Gang in a Fix, The (Olsen-banden på spanden)]], and [[Last Exploits of the Olsen Gang, The (Olsen-bandens sidste bedrifter)]]? The English titles are an exact translate of the original language title just like in other movies like [[Democratic Terrorist, The]] where the english title is used alone. I mean it just makes the titles extremely long and when you search for them you have to put in the whole name to come directly to the page. --[[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 09:34, 19 March 2013 (EDT)

:Okey thanks. --[[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 13:02, 19 March 2013 (EDT)

==RE edits==
Sorry I'm rude, but I hate it when I correct horrible grammar and he reverts my edit for no reason.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 22:25, 21 March 2013 (EDT)

== CSI ==

Wow... Just wow... This is what happens when you have like 200 tabs open. I was trying to delete a completely different page and just lost track of which tab I was on. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ''IMFDB Chief of Operations'' ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 21:38, 22 March 2013 (EDT)
:3 days... 8 hours of sleep... lol. Thanx again. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ''IMFDB Chief of Operations'' ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 21:57, 22 March 2013 (EDT)

==Screencapping==
I think a separate page would be better. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 15:24, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

== Task for ya ==

Got a little job i could use your help on. Can you think of an iconic movie/tv show where we see a case that has a gun in it? I can picture this in my head but can't remember a specific instance. Its one of those where you flip open the case and every part of the gun has its own little compartment, but its customized. Not an off the shelf thing. Any thoughts? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ''IMFDB Chief of Operations'' ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 15:18, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
:Perfection!!! Thanks! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] ''IMFDB Chief of Operations'' ([[User talk:Zackmann08|talk]]) 16:06, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== High School of the Dead, correction might be needed? ==

I just wonder if my assumption is right on this, doesn't this rifle in this image looks like a [[AK-74]] instead of a [[Howa Type 89]].

[[Image:Hotd05ak74.JPG|500px|thumb|none|you can see the barrel has a muzzle device, with wooden handguard telling by the color and the sight at the top of the receiver.]]

[[File:AK-74 NTW 12 92.jpg|500px|thumb|none|This]]
or
[[Image:HowaType89FullStock.jpg‎|thumb|500px|none|This]]

Also an M4 rifle

I think there's a M4 Carbine in the opening sequence.
[[Image:Hotd06guns.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Look at at the bottom right corner and you'll see the collapsible stock.]]
[[File:ColtM4.jpg|thumb|500px|none|]]

--[[User:Garsenal|Garsenal]] ([[User talk:Garsenal|talk]])

==Got It==
Thanks for your help and recommendation on the HOTD.

Also I got a question what does it mean when something say it's a protected page like this message they show below.

Note: This page has been protected so that only registered users can edit it. The latest log entry is provided below for reference:

I'm I allowed to go on it and make a discussion or edit something?

--[[User:Garsenal|Garsenal]] ([[User talk:Garsenal|talk]])

==Protected pages, Edit tab==
Sorry to bother again, when you mean '''Edit tab''' you mean the things at the bottom of the edit page

saying:

'''save page'''

'''show preview'''

'''show changes'''

and with those I have permission to edit or discuss on the page.

--[[User:Garsenal|Garsenal]] ([[User talk:Garsenal|talk]])

Can you give me an example of a page that doesn't allow people to edit it.

--[[User:Garsenal|Garsenal]] ([[User talk:Garsenal|talk]])

== Invasion USA ==

Have you seen the prices for DVD for this title? Been waiting for months for a used one to pop up at a decent price. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008|talk]]) 23:03, 11 April 2013 (EDT)
::Thanks for the heads up. The last time I checked the Amazon price was over $20.00. With shipping that was just too much for a POS like this movie hahahahahahahahaha. I see now that I can get it used for about $6 bucks. Looks like I'm gonna order it and start capping. :D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008|talk]]) 23:18, 11 April 2013 (EDT)
:::Btw, if I haven't said it already, EPIC work on IMFDB. Great job! :D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008|talk]])
::::Yes! I must thank Ben41 for saving me 6 bucks! hahahahaha. Also the torture of sitting through it and screencapping it! LOL. MPM

== Taking screenshots ==

I'm very sorry I'm new to adding screenshots and its hard for my computer.--[[User:Balin21|Balin21]] ([[User talk:Balin21|talk]]) 18:05, 12 April 2013 (EDT)

Can you help me identify the two revolvers from revolution?--[[User:Balin21|Balin21]] ([[User talk:Balin21|talk]]) 14:29, 13 April 2013 (EDT)

== Should I delete one of the Blood-C ==

I recently just notice that [[Blood-C]] and [[Blood-C: The Last Dark]] are pretty much the same in the content and there's not much guns, so I thought of putting the content of [[Blood-C: The Last Dark]] to the page [[Blood-C]].

So is it possible to destroy the page [[Blood-C: The Last Dark]] that I made.
Also is my content for [[Blood-C: The Last Dark]] is going to get deleted, I don't want that to happen.

--[[User:Garsenal|Garsenal]] ([[User talk:Garsenal|talk]])

== IMDB links added on my pages ==

Thanks for removing the IMDB links, I missed your message last night and I was going to do that myself this morning. As to why I started to add them, I seem to have misunderstood Zackmann08's message of 12th March. I thought he objected to 'automatically' trying to add links to all (!) pages and I thought it was okay to do that manually on one's own pages. Thanks for making me aware, [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 02:55, 23 April 2013 (EDT)

== Screenshot page ==
Just wanted to say you're doing a great job with the screencapping page. Thanks! Did you ever use the screen capture button at the top right? Sometimes when I'm screencapping streaming video, I'll just capture "Foreground Window" and crop out everything except the pertinent information. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 06:32, 24 April 2013 (EDT)

: The "Crop Board" button is also at the top (it's next to the button that looks like a tree. If a user is capping multiple images as PNG's, one can then use the "Batch Convert Selected Images" command (right under "Tools" column) to convert several images to JPG's. The user can then rename all the images at the same time. If a user just wants to rename several images, the "Batch Rename" command also is under "Tools". --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 08:50, 24 April 2013 (EDT)
::Definitely taking the PNG first and then converting to JPG makes a higher resolution screenshot. When saving as a JPG in VLC, I've found that it's compressed way too much. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 16:13, 24 April 2013 (EDT)

== M1C photo change ==

Thanks for calling me on the etiquette/standard procedures. It is, in fact, the wrong gun that is currently pictured as an M1C. I'll reupload the correct image with a unique filename.

== Mission: Impossible ==

I noticed that you put some more images up for [[Mission: Impossible (TV Series)]]. Do you plan on putting up more for Season 1? Are you planning to split the seasons up? Do you have images from other seasons? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 23:10, 25 April 2013 (EDT)

: If it would make it faster for you, I can start dividing it up and delete out the non-Season 1 weapons. That way you'll just have to add the missing weapons. If not, let me know.--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 23:31, 25 April 2013 (EDT)

== Blood Dragon ==

I can tell you pretty much exactly why it exists, since it's fairly easy to figure it out. They've been kind of struggling to come up with a DLC idea since the plot of FC3 is rather hard to follow up on and doesn't really have any side-stories that don't involve appeasing Vaas' incredibly creepy fanbase. One of the big things that comes up again and again when people discuss it, though, is a DLC where you get to hunt dinosaurs. I guess the game started as an April Fools' joke making fun of how silly the idea was, but then someone pointed out that since people, you know, ''wanted'' the game and they were having a blast making it, they might as well finish it off. Hence you get a Far Cry 3 stand-alone add-on that has absolutely no plot connection to the main game. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 03:27, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
:Thing is, I don't think ''United Offensive'' should have its own page either if ''Warhead'' doesn't. If I ever get around to overhauling the early CoD pages I can assure you it won't have it's own page afterwards. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 16:11, 2 May 2013 (EDT)
::I think you could compare it to, say, Zombies mode in the Treyarch CoD games (which has its own plot, albeit one nobody cares about, unique weapons not found in other modes, and some unique art assets) or ''Metal Gear Online'' (which was released as a standalone game in Japan). I just don't think five new weapons with all the others taken directly from the main game warrants a whole page to itself. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 02:27, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
:::I think there isn't any technical reason why you ''couldn't'' release Zombies as a standalone (though it'd be a hassle to check, I think in both Blops games you can uninstall the singleplayer on PC and Zombies still works), they just haven't. It's technically six weapons (mounted and portable minigun) plus a seventh which is a ninja star that shoots lasers, so obviously that's an MP7, we don't need to tell people that. The rest (C4, grenade, bow, mines and flamethrower, I think that's everything) is copied straight from the main game. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 03:47, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

== Split Second S&W 36 incorrect ==
I put link to sourcing in the discussion section. I didn't want to change the front page until it had been checked by a higher pay grade. [[User:Mark in tx|Mark in tx]] ([[User talk:Mark in tx|talk]]) 01:29, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

== HD Images ==

Hey, Funky, you guys are so wrong.

My [[Battle Cry]] images were taken from a used DVD; the film isn't even available on Blu-ray. Before you guys start piling on, you might want to try to hear what I am saying.

:Hell, no. I live in Southern California. I thought VLC could only capture DVD images, not Blu-ray. Am I wrong?

:I have a Toshiba laptop with a Blu-ray disc player and a high resolution screen. I take screen shots from that and then process the images through Photoshop of color and contrast correction. I do not increase the size of the screenshot.

:When I get home this afternoon I will post the original, un-retouched screenshot so you can see for yourself.

:I really don't appreciate the Commando inferring that I am a liar. Surely there are rules regarding decorum on the site.

== Enemy / Fatal Mission ==

I once had this movie on VHS and now I search it on DVD. On the net is only the trailer. So I am going to continue until I find it. Meanwhile, I hope that will help someone, who has it.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 11:17, 19 May 2013 (EDT) I know that there Vietnamese officer has a pistol and his soldiers have Ak-47. And a sniper rifle to shoot vietnamesse general. Maximum of 3 guns and not one actor! Weapons of duo protagonists are known. And what other movies unfinished, there's plenty and nobody did not make it. Run, Lola, Run (Lola rennt) - http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Run_Lola_Run, Aazaan - http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Aazaan etc, etc.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 15:52, 19 May 2013 (EDT) Now that no actors miss! Both armed protagonists are here with their weapons - Peter Fonda and Tia Carrere. The only thing missing weapons extras - Vietnamese Army.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 16:30, 19 May 2013 (EDT).

== A Trip to the Moon ==

I have identified the rifle. - [[User:Elzzupa|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa|talk]]) 15:18, 23 May 2013 (PDT)
:It looks like a Lebel to me. - [[User:Elzzupa|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa|talk]]) 15:26, 23 May 2013 (PDT)
::That is, of course, your prerogative as an Administrator. - [[User:Elzzupa|Elzzupa]] ([[User talk:Elzzupa|talk]]) 15:29, 23 May 2013 (PDT)
:::Perhaps you are right, Funky, it must not be a Lebel. More probably it is a [[Charleville Musket]]. As you know, Tom Hanks made an HBO mini-series in 1998 about the Apollo Project, in which he paid obsessive attention to detail. In one episode, the only one in which Hanks himself appeared as an actor, he recreated the filming of ''Le Voyage dans la Lune'', a screenshot from which is reproduced here:
:::[[Image:Trip25.jpg|thumb|none|300px| |]].
:::Looks more like the Charleville Musket.

== Pink Floyd - The Wall ==

Thank you for your tips and I hope that the page is acceptable now :) --[[User:TheREwiz]] ([[User talk:TheREwiz|talk]])

== Images to delete ==
I didn't know individual files could be tagged like that. I'll remember it next time. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:14, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

== Format ==
Sorry about that. I'll remember that format from now on. -protoAuthor 22:39, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

== HIMYM ==

I don't know if this has ever been discussed on the imfdb boards, but has there ever been discussusions/decisions about ''How I Met Your Mother'' having its own page? There are a couple of instances of a flashpaper Desert Eagle, a couple of revolvers and a SIG-Sauer P226R seen throughout the series. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 18:34, 3 June 2013 (EDT)

== Weapon in '''[[The Marsh]]''' ==

You wrote that my [[The Marsh|article]] was incomplete, but nobody can identified this weapon. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 16:04, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
:I found moment with SMG (or assualt rifle) here [http://kinopower.ru/news/top/2012-01-28-2170] at the 79:35 minutes.. If you can identify this weapon, please write it on The Marsh discussion. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 06:19, 5 June 2013 (EDT)

== Dempsey&Makepeace ==
I think not. But it is not sure, at 80%.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 15:31, 7 June 2013 (EDT)

== Thanks! ==
Hey, thanks for correcting my page with the right revolver name! :) [[User:Neothe1|Neothe1]] ([[User talk:Neothe1|talk]]) 16:12, 9 June 2013 (EDT)

== Re: ==

First, I thank you for such good words. I've read your message just in time when I doubted - to return or to leave completly. The message was a critical argument for returning. So I'm here again and, I hope, for long time. And second, I need to apologize for my behavior: that unhappy day I've had heavy problems IRL and when I've seen these edits on several pages I was really pissed off. Of course it was for nothing, and now I'm ashamed for the hasty and unwise edits I've done. I'll see what can be done with these pages to prevent loosing the interesting content while not breaking the rules. Maybe the rule can be discussed in future, maybe not. But any way, I thank you again for help and good words. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:43, 18 June 2013 (EDT)

== Fire Bottle ==

Description refers to several types of industrially produced bottles. I do not know how to condense. It is to give each type separately?--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 18:33, 19 June 2013 (EDT) I understand. I do short of this.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 18:48, 19 June 2013 (EDT)

== Question. ==

If you want to delete the image file, please let me know I can be kind of add writing. - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]]([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 22:07, 23 June 2013 (JST)

Thank you. From now on, I will add to erased and duplicate files. - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]]([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 9:46, 24 June 2013 (JST)

== Re:Soviet film studios ==

All film studios in USSR were subordinates of USSR State Committee for Cinematography (Goskino), an agency of the Union government of the Soviet Union. So it is incorrect to call them Ukrainian, Moldovian or Estonian. I think that you are right, and pre-1992 movies would be better put in "Soviet Produced" or "USSR Produced" category while "Russian Produced" category is for movies filmed in post-1991 Russia (and for Russian Empire movies if any of them will appear here). I had such idea myself but never introduced it. The same case already exists with Yugoslavian pre-1990s movies. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:47, 25 June 2013 (EDT)
: OK, I'll make the appropriate changes on the pages. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:00, 26 June 2013 (EDT)

== Soviet Produced/Filmed ==

This is good. But I can not find her.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 17:14, 25 June 2013 (EDT) It's O.K. I found it (category).--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 17:49, 25 June 2013 (EDT)

== You good with ID'ing revolvers? ==

I added an "unknown revolver" entry on this article: [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Tales_from_the_Crypt| Tales from the Crypt] since I can't ID it. The characters in the episode describes it as a .44 though that could be a script-error. My guess it is a Smith & Wesson but I have no experience with those revolvers..Do you know what gun this is? Thx in advance! [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 14:00, 26 June 2013 (EDT)

== Category ==

This way?- [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:DSD-MG-SSP-1.jpg]] He did not know about it, earlier did described it, but it halts working. Now I give only a name for the image. Now is need therefore add a category?--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 18:29, 26 June 2013 (EDT) Aha, so next to the name and not under it. O.K.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 18:37, 26 June 2013 (EDT)

== Re: The Last Stand ==

Hi, and sorry for the late answer. I've been on my laptop, away from home (where I have my new pc and all my new screencaps), so I couldn't really do anything about your request. But I'm home now.
I checked out all of my pre-existing screencaps which I used when I completed the page. I also went over the scene a few times, but everything happens so fast. All of the Troopers go down pretty fast, and the scene's just really a mix of blue unifroms, blood, and gunfire. I couldn't really spot the guy from the other Troopers. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 20:20, 5 July 2013 (EDT)

== "All quiet..." ==

I can start replacing the screengrabs this weekend. And I agree, the current screenshots quality sucks! [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 15:09, 10 July 2013 (EDT)

:I haven't forgotten about the new screens for "All Quiet..". I kinda got caught in the "The Losers" article. I'm prepping new screens though so at least a few of them will be uploaded this weekend. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 12:57, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

::Oh! I hadnt thought about that. I'll do it from now on. [[User:Dudster32|Dudester32]] ([[User talk:Dudster32|talk]]) 12:06, 13 July 2013 (EDT)

== Vector ==

I was going by original manufacturer name as per GE M134 minigun and a few others. My decision may have been coloured by the fact that TDI sounds less stupid. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 03:32, 19 July 2013 (EDT)
:My main issue is that most cases of the weapon appearing are from back when "TDI Vector" was the correct name, and I'm not that happy with "updating" links in a way that isn't strictly technically accurate. Any K10 SMG would be a KRISS USA produced one because they're all after the change, but prototype-based Vectors would always be TDI (since the KRISS USA brand didn't exist at that time) and I imagine most real Vectors in the movie industry have TDI trades.
:Just as an example; if Colt suddenly changed its name to Bob, it would be rather weird changing every gun page to reflect that when every weapon ID would be of a Colt-produced weapon. Not that it's going to happen, I just think 'original name' is the best precedent for page names which include manufacturer names, saves shifting them around whenever someone tries to think of a sillier name for themselves. It should be at KRISS USA Vector if we're using the ALLCAPS ARMS title anyway, though. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 09:34, 19 July 2013 (EDT)

== Thanks ==

Thanks. oh… Although I had it before, I saw in the picture book, I did not remember. --[[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 1:31, 20 July 2013 (JST)

== Desert Eagle ==

I've moved the page back to the original name since I don't understand why the user moved it in the first place, and they certainly didn't say why they did / were doing it. There isn't any real criteria for the "series" title and I don't think it's that warranted when we just use "Glock" for the much more expansive Glock product line. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 14:57, 31 July 2013 (EDT)

== Re: Thanks ==

No, I do not do the things like get a thank you. To say thank you it is this person. The modest, I have to work your relationship tremendous, thank you.

'''Thing you want to hear:''' When you delete the image, there are times when don't deleted the image error occurs occasionally, but why? - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 10:34, 6 August 2013 (JST)

== Trouble with updating gun image ==

I'm trying to update http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Polish_M48_Tokarev.jpg, because [http://www.imfdb.org/images/archive/d/dc/20130812104956!Polish_M48_Tokarev.jpg original one] was US sold variant with aftermarket safety. Unfortunately, all I can get is original file with different dimensions. Somehow mine file appears in [http://www.imfdb.org/images/archive/d/dc/20130812105144!Polish_M48_Tokarev.jpg file history] when I'm reverting back to the original. I thought that this weird behavior is caused by browser cache, but even after deleting it, I can't get it to work. If You could look into it, I'd be grateful. --[[User:Chris22lr|Chris22lr]] ([[User talk:Chris22lr|talk]]) 08:02, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
:Well, it seems that it's bug in Opera browser - I was deleting the cache, but it was still here, I had to remove it manually from the folder. Sorry for all the fuss. --[[User:Chris22lr|Chris22lr]] ([[User talk:Chris22lr|talk]]) 09:31, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
::OK, will remember it for future. --[[User:Chris22lr|Chris22lr]] ([[User talk:Chris22lr|talk]]) 09:52, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

== New File ==

Yeah, it warned me. I ignored it because I figured it wasn't around anymore. Though it got deleted for being pointless, so I re-uploaded. Should I not have? Also, apologies if I uploaded it twice, it didn't seem to work the first time. Sorry --[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 12:59, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

== Behind the scenes ==

:I didn't know we now had such a category. But over the past few months personal stuff has been demanding much of my time so I haven't been real involved with imfdb. Thanks for fixing that. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 22:01, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

==MASH==
It's a little odd, because all the promotional material has either the asterisks or the periods, but I think the opening of the film doesn't. There's a redirect anyway. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 21:28, 14 August 2013 (EDT)

== Rollerball ==

No prob, thanks for the tip. [[User:Forhumans|Forhumans]] ([[User talk:Forhumans|talk]])

== Izhmash Tigr ==

MPM's image that we use as an ersatz SVD-M is already a Tigr / Tiger carbine, what's the new one for?

[[image:SVD-TigerCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]

[[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 13:43, 19 August 2013 (EDT)

== Picture quotes ==

I noticed some photos have quotes from movies in them. i.e the Spider-Man 3 photo of a Beretta 92fs had the quote "Fire!", the Terminator 2 Colt/Detonics M1911A1 Series 70 Hybrid was "Hasta la vista, baby." and the photo of The Other Guys glocks was "Drop it or be dropped, homeboy! Hope you like the taste of prison food...and penis." So it came to my mind saying I should put the quote "Ok, DROP HIM!" in a Terminator 2 photo of a CAR 15. I did so, but Ben41 removed it and just said "Undo revision by Gunnerboy." nothing more. Now I'm scared cause of an event that happened to me 1 and a half month ago. Ok, I'm already in a pickle, but here is my full story: My whole life on Wiki type websites have been a mess since the beginning (or at least my beginning at Super Mario Wiki which was the 1st ever wiki I joined). Super mario wiki blocked me for "sockpuppetting" (I don't even know what that is) and I couldnt edit there for 2 weeks. So, after that, I decided its time for me to officially quit that wiki - PERMANENTLY and to do something else on the web. I 1st created the user "Toadettefan1000" between 2011-2012 before Mario Party 9 was released. I was a Newbie, Probie or anything you want to call me thats similar to that, everything except a learner, because I was overexcited, couldnt control my mind/think properly and got right to work spreading my edits to pages the moment my account got created (unaware that there were other users at the time). I put "Toadette is considered an F- character due to the # of game appearances" in the Toadette trivia and l logged off (because I wanted to show my opinion of Toadette's appearances in games since she dosent appear much in the whole mario series). But minutes later, when I came back on, I discovered my edit is gone. I figured "Aw well, better put it back on." and so I did. But minutes later after that 2nd edit, the edit is gone! So, I was thinking "What?! I could've swore I done an edit here! Maybe theres a bug in the system." So I put my edit back on again. This gig kept up all the way til nightfall and thats when I was like "Thats it, I quit!" So, I left. A day after quitting, I decided to join Transformers wiki and do an edit on 1 of my fave pages titled "Unknown Constructicon Shovel" by adding multiple screenshots of the shovel transforming, but they got rejected claiming they "dont need multiple screenshots of the same character in 1 scene". So, I quit that wiki as well. An hour later, I decided to join Disney wiki, and since I've been to Hong Kong Disneyland, I decided to put Mickey and Minnie's Chinese names in their trivia pages (I thought it would be nice to know their Chinese names and learn some Chinese in the process). But you can probably guess what happened there. Anyways, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE WORLD ANYMORE! I even came back onto Super mario wiki 36 days ago to put a comment on the Rosalina talk page now as "RosalinaLover" (At 1st, I thought creating a new account would help me to start a new and better life here, put the miserable past behind me and solve my problems, but no, it seem to make things worse) saying that I stumbled upon some modified images of Rosalina in different alternate outfits on Google/Yahoo (besides her dress and bike suit), how its not natural for someone to put a character in an unofficial outfit and how they are able to make fan (yet official looking) art (because you know how people can get when it comes to future games, so they draw/make possibility pictures), but it got pulled down. And it just gets worse and thats where I hit a snag: within 2 hours after that edit, 1 of my accounts on Super mario wiki got blocked for "Sockpuppetting" for 2 weeks and the other indefinitely. I couldnt even log on or edit here for the time and thats when I decided to officially quit Super mario wiki and take my business elsewhere. I was thinking "either the previous wiki type websites I worked on hate me or I suck at editing". Every edit I did got taken down/rejected/trashed (looks like its back to the old drawing board). I'm in a real tizzy right now. No matter what I did, things seem to just get worse and worse as if no 1 wants me around. I COULDNT STAND THIS ANYMORE! :( I couldnt tolerate this kind of treatment any longer. So, I bid them all farewell and good riddance! :( Now recalling this event on IMFDB, I got even more scared, cause the same thing might happen here like on Super Mario Wiki.--[[User:Gunnerboy|Gunnerboy]] ([[User talk:Gunnerboy|talk]]) 23:47, 20 August 2013 (EDT)

== Wolfenstein 3D ==

I was changing this page. Why you delete this? I could add weapons from original game. And remake is notability, because it legally use engine by Ken Silverman, who crated a Build Engine, what used by [[Duke Nukem 3D]] and [[Blood]]. [[User:STEN|STEN]] ([[User talk:STEN|talk]]) 03:02, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

Eligible? This is short list of weapons, what I try to add:
* Glock 19
* Walther P22
* Luger P08
* MP40
* Minigun
* Double Barreled Shotgun (in some place in Voxelstein 3D)
* M16A1 (in cover of Wolf)
* AK-47 (in the cover of Spear of Desitny, addon of original game)
* Stielhandgranate (in some versions of original game and Voxelstein)
* Flamethrover (in some ports of original game)
* C4 (in both games)
This list is long. And I did not want to add a knife. Why you decided what this large list of weapons is eligible? [[User:STEN|STEN]] ([[User talk:STEN|talk]]) 03:24, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

== Picture Quality ==

I've redone the page for [[The Skeleton Key]] for the user's future reference. I'd recommend further action if quality on any new movie pages doesn't improve. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 14:29, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

== Colt SF-VI ==
I say the Magnum Carry should have it's own page. Though the model is the same frame size as the Colt Detective Special/SF-V1 it's also a different model. Different steel, longer cylinder beefed up internals etc. After all it's a .357 magnum small frame snubbie. The S&W Model 19 is a K frame like the S&W Model 10 or the S&W Model 15, but they are very distinct models. All three have their own pages here in imfdb so I say the same should go for the Magnum Carry. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 12:40, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
:So I see. Yeah well in review it works. I don't think one could see the difference all that easily anyway from a screencap. Hope to be around more now. The last few months have been very hectic. Daughter graduating from high school and starting college. Medical issues for me (surgery) and so on and so forth. But I think things are going to slow down now. I hope. But the site looks like it's done just fine without me being around all that much. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 12:53, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
:Yes I've noticed the difference as well.imfdb seems to be more orderly now. It does feel strange not having her here. She's down in San Francisco so she isn't to far away (about a ten hour drive from Boise), but I still remember the day she was born back in 95. Seems like it was about three hours ago and now she's off to college! Her younger brother has already begun to move things around. Took all of her "woman stuff" out of their bathroom. We're lucky in that we have two bathrooms. My daughter took about half of her various prodcuts which means she had way too much shampoo, skin care products and what not, but I was the one who wanted a daughter. Something my wife never tires of reminding me. Marcus has boxed it up and put it in her now very empty bedroom. While I think he misses her he's been waiting for almost sixteen years to be an only child. He's going to make the most of it. But man is the house quiet.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 13:32, 24 August 2013 (EDT)

::You feel old? Ha. My parents were dating in the summer of 67 when the Detroit riots took place. I was born in Detroit in Feb 68. Which means the senior at Ann Arbor (Class of 2014) were born when in 92 - mostly. In 92 I had already been married for a year and had graduated from college in 1990. I didn't even pay all that much attention to the Simpson trial. I was too busy being a new father, husband and soldier. Plus we were stationed in Germany which was nice. We were a long ways away from the U.S. and even though the Germans were fascinated by the trial as well the news was all in German. LOL. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 13:41, 25 August 2013 (EDT)

== Django Unchained ==

Yeah, I think that's it for the film. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 02:17, 29 August 2013 (EDT)

== Anime, huh. ==

Well, if they say so...
Still, if "Archer" is anime, then I'm prince Yamato. What the hell.
*You're definitely right, but I still can't get the idea. It won't stop someone from creating Family guy/The Simpsons/whatever cartoon show's pages.

== Re: Straight bolt handles in Kar98k rifles ==
This rifle here appears to be a [[Mauser Rifle Series#VZ-24 Czech Mauser|Vz.24]] in a Kar98k stock. It has the front sight band/mount of the Vz.24 (inherited from the [[Mauser Gewehr 1898|Gew.98]]); the band is fitted to a barrel step and blends in with the outer profile of the barrel. The handguard on a [[Karabiner 98k|Kar98k]] fits into a semi-circular recess on the front or the rear sight base, and you can see the lip on the handguard exposed, rather than covered with a steel band. Finally, the rear sight leaf, slider and base don't match those of a Kar98k, but fit perfectly with a Vz.24. I suspect the other rifles with straight bolts are also Vz.24 cosmetically altered to resemble Kar98k rifles.
[[Image: MI66_0119_Mauser_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Guard with a K98 with a straight bolt handle in "The Diamond" (S01E19). Note the straight bolt handle.]]

In this pic the two rifles nearest the camera definitely have Vz.24 front & rear sights. The third rifle has a Kar98k-type front sight band.
[[File:MI_0102_K98k_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A firing squad with K98k's in "Memory" (S01E02). The guard closest to the camera has a bent bolt handle, but the guard to his left has a straight bolt handle.]]
--[[User:Stomper|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper|talk]]) 20:02, 31 August 2013 (EDT)

== Re:Piranha ==

Alas, I don't have this movie on DVD. I'll try to loan it from one or another of my friends but I cannot sware that I'll do it in near time. Or maybe [[User:Pyramid_Silent|Pyramid Silent]] will be able to rebuild the page himself. A category "Poor quality" will be appropriate for this page. Maybe it will be good to create such category for pages with poor quality screenshots? [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 14:59, 3 September 2013 (EDT)
: Yes, I understand the problem. So it will be better to mark that page as Incomplete - it is really incomplete, even if not taking into account the low quality of screenshots. But for now I have an agenda that contains about half a dozen movies that wait until I'll have time for them - the third film of ''The Elusive Avengers'' saga, a three-part war movie ''Front Without Flanks'' and some others. Thank goodness, my wife looks favorably on my hobby. :) She only reproaches me that I'm not an admin. :) But speaking seriously, I'll try to do something to improve ''Piranha'' page. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:29, 3 September 2013 (EDT)
:: A large part of my contribution was made when I was working as a freelancer and had a lot of spare time. Now I'm back in office... What concerns the Soviet/Russian movies, you are right: they rarely appear abroad the former USSR though some more recently filmed ones are distributed in English also. And some old Soviet films have been re-released in HD/Blue-ray quality but I cannot afford purchasing all of them. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 05:18, 4 September 2013 (EDT)

== Jack Weston ==
Thanks. i couldn't get the damn thing to format correctly. I finally walked away. It was either that or throw the computer across the room.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 22:19, 6 September 2013 (EDT)

yeah I do. I was twelve when Magnum P.I. started in 1980 and I watched the show pretty consistently up until it went off the air my sophomore year in college. So he's been around most of my life and I like his screen presence. I'm also a member of the NRA and I like the fact that he's an actor who isn't afraid to stand up to the anti's and the gun grabbers. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 09:42, 7 September 2013 (EDT)

:Thanks for doing that redirect to the S&W 44 series. I knew I had forgotten to do something.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 12:51, 9 September 2013 (EDT)

I had forgotten about that, but this morning Commando asked and I decided it was time to stop having a duplicate. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 13:56, 9 September 2013 (EDT)

== For deleted images selected ==

Recently, erasing the image is slow, do you busy ?

Image of guns will not be deleted easily, but what's going on? - [[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 10:04, 19 2013September (JST)

== Thank you! ==

Thank you for promoting me to Admin status! I'll try to do the best I can for the IMFDB, and not fail. I'm very glad and even excited. May I ask you to help me a little with my new status? I don't want to do something wrong due to inexperience so I need to know more about the Admin tools and maybe to read some manual like "IMFDB Admin for Dummies" :) [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:37, 20 September 2013 (EDT)
:Thanks! One more question: I see red exclamation marks ("This edit has not yet been patrolled") near some edits in Recent Changes. What to do with it (or just ignore)? [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 06:56, 20 September 2013 (EDT)

== Philippine/filipino ==

I'm not sure, but I think Philippine refers to the location whereas Filipino refers to people from the Philippines. Therefore I think "Philippine Produced" would be the more correect category, as we are talking about films produced in the geographic location of the Phillipines, rather than those produced by people from the Philippines. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:46, 2 October 2013 (EDT)
:The Belgium thing is different though, as the original category name for this was not the name of the country but already the adjective. It is true that the demonym of people from the Philippines in Filipino, but we shouldn't be using the demonym for these categories as that refers to the people and is not necessarily the correct adjective for something originating from that country but which is not a product of the people and culture there (for example you would say Filipino food or Filipino language). I wasn't 100% when I made the original Philippine category, but the thing that tipped it for me is that the term Philippine is used to refer to stuff like the Philippine Army, Philippine islands, Philippine Revolution etc.. I think people tend to also use the term Filipino colloquially to things that would correctly be termed Philippine which doesn't help in trying to work out the correct term. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 09:11, 2 October 2013 (EDT)

== RE:Picture ==

Thanks, decided I wanted a picture on my page and decided to go for the most random, non identifiable one I had on my phone. I have to admit, I regretted that costume by the end of the day as I was wearing real body armour, the face paint was running into my eyes, my bag was really full and heavy, it was about 30 degrees C and the air conditioning there was weak as hell. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:53, 2 October 2013 (EDT)

== Re: Hellsinki ==

That's propably true. I took the wip banner off the page, since it's been like a year when I last edited it. I thought it was unfair for the page to keep it on there, since I haven't worked on it in a while. I will finish [[Hellsinki]] in the future, though. I have the screencaps and everything, I just don't know when I'll get to it. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 06:43, 4 October 2013 (EDT)

:Absolutely true, but I don't have them on this PC. The screencaps are on my old laptop, which I still used occasionally when I had free time in the army. The laptop is currently at my grandmother's, and I don't know when I will visit there next. Her place isn't exactly close to my current city. I have a couple of other movies screencapped on it too, but I don't use it anymore because I built a new desktop PC around April. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 14:00, 4 October 2013 (EDT)

::Damn, it seems I made quite a few unkept promises when I was in the army... I can't even remember the one about The Watch. BUT, as a matter of fact, I have screencaps for it, and now that you reminded me about it, I will finish it tomorrow at the latest. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 06:53, 6 October 2013 (EDT)

:::No, it's okay. If it gets deleted, some other new user will probably come and do a drive-by-build on the page and we're back to square one again. Yeah, I hate it too, but I really shouldn't be one to judge, haha. I didn't even finish the ''Johan Falk'' page a while back even though I had all 6 of the newer 2009 movies screencapped. Altough, I think I was in the military back when I created the page, so we can pin it on that... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 13:09, 6 October 2013 (EDT)

::::And, finally, it is done. [[The Watch]], I mean... --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 13:23, 8 October 2013 (EDT)

== The Hangover Part III ==
I'm not sure do I understand your message. Also, there's no Hangover 3 on YouTube. [[User:TitaniumAlloy|TitaniumAlloy]] ([[User talk:TitaniumAlloy|talk]]) 11:29, 8 October 2013 (EDT)

==Octopussy==
I rewrote some of it so that it would sound better, but I can add back links to some of them if you'd like that. --[[User:Thejoker|Thejoker]] ([[User talk:Thejoker|talk]]) 13:32, 13 October 2013 (EDT)

== RE: In Time screenshots ==

They're on the discussion page now--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 20:06, 13 October 2013 (EDT)

== [[User:STEN]] ==

In august you deleted a pege [[Wolfesntein 3d]] and said, what this is not eligible. I made a list of weapons, what appear in all 4 games (6 in Voxelstein 3D and 13 in Wolfenstein 3D, Spear of Destiny and Mission packs). Is that eligible now? --[[User:STEN|STEN]] ([[User talk:STEN|talk]]) 08:28, 14 October 2013 (EDT)

== Firefly ==

HD caps would be better. I just got this series on DVD and am just starting to go through it. Whoever did this page didn't put the episode name in the captions, but I will look through and try to label the best I can and let you take care of the caps that are labeled. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 00:16, 17 October 2013 (EDT)

: I'll let you do the caps then. I'll just label the captions to help you out. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 00:26, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
:: I'll add some of the caps that were especially bad, but you can overwrite them later with the BD. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 14:32, 17 October 2013 (EDT)

== Iron Man 3 ==
I already have done some of the caps, but if there are any more missing, go ahead and add. As for Agent Carter, should there be a page for all the Marvel One-Shot shorts? I believe the one with Coulson in the convenience store had weapons as well. If not a separate page, I would put it on the discussion page of the film it was included with. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 14:31, 17 October 2013 (EDT)

There are four of these One-Shots so far:

"The Consultant" - Coulson talks about getting the Hulk on the Avengers, mostly footage from The Incredible Hulk (seen on the Thor BD).

"A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer" - Coulson thwarts a robbery (seen on the Captain America BD)

"Item 47" - Two robbers use alien technology (seen on Avengers BD)

"Agent Carter" - Iron Man 3 BD

::: I would make it the listings on the discussion pages of the films then. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 14:44, 17 October 2013 (EDT)

== Locked pages ==

Hi, you informed me that I recently created a page that was apparently locked (guess you know which one...). Just to avoid me stepping into another 'bee's nest' again, can you please let me know how I can see a page is locked and thus should not be created? I searched for clues, e.g. there was nothing on the 'Special Pages' page. IMFDB is too dear to me to have further 'situations' so I would really appreciate if you could let me know. Thanks in advance, [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 04:17, 21 October 2013 (EDT)
:Thanks for letting me know about the locked page for "Team America: World Police". Had I seen such a notice, I would not have spend any more time and effort. However, (and believe this or not...) I honestly did not see this when I typed the movie name in the search bar last week. I just saw the usual (reciting from memory here...) 'there is no such page, create page Team America: World Police' which I happily did.

:Guess this site does have its little peculiarities, just like when this morning I created a new talk topic on your Talk page by pressing the 'add topic' button and my new topic was not numbered 152 (because the previous one is 151) but mysteriously 151.1. Take care and thanks for the cooperation, [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 10:17, 21 October 2013 (EDT)
::I assume the header for 151 was written ''<nowiki>= Iron Man 3 =</nowiki>'' and not ''<nowiki>== Iron Man 3 ==</nowiki>''. Since this header uses two equality signs, the system considers it as sub-segment of the previous one and labels it "151.1". --[[User:Soulblydd|Soulblydd]] ([[User talk:Soulblydd|talk]]) 10:24, 21 October 2013 (EDT)
::Yep, I was right, should've been fixed. --[[User:Soulblydd|Soulblydd]] ([[User talk:Soulblydd|talk]]) 10:26, 21 October 2013 (EDT)

== Re:Forum ==

No, I don't see Admin section when I visit the forum. I checked it now, searching all threads. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 10:18, 21 October 2013 (EDT)
:Thank you, I'll follow your advice. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 11:18, 21 October 2013 (EDT)

==Cod==

I'll try to do it. :)--[[User:Mateogala|MTOOO]] ([[User talk:Mateogala|talk]]) 10:47, 22 October 2013 (EDT)

==Animation Pages==
In a quick check of the other films in the [[:Category:Animation]] page, the only one I have trouble with is ''[[The Iron Giant]]''. The rest of them are detailed enough to be included. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 18:28, 24 October 2013 (EDT)

==Afghanistan- the last Warbus==
I had totally forgotten about that page. However I have found a DVD version of the film and since my computer is currently working I can finish up the screencaps for it although my DVD is subtitled. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 13:45, 25 October 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

2013-10-23T02:23:54Z

Rockwolf66: /* Unknown X-Ray Rifle */

==Transport==
Dorky plane complaint: Wouldn't the jetwash from the front engines disrupt the airflow to the rear engines? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:55, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
[[File:MAOS S01E01 017.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
:The mounts for the engines look overly complicated to me, so my guess is that the plane will turn out to be a VTOL. In that case the only time the rear engines would be needed is for that, when the front engines would be pointing down away from them. Am I correct in thinking that this is a C-17 with bits bolted/CG'd on? (and by bits I mainly mean the second set of lower tail fins with the rear engines) --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:17, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
::It looks like a C-17 to me as well. The hanger has a cutout for the plane's vertical stabilizer, but won't work for this plane since it has a T-tail. I can't tell from the shots if that will be a problem for this plane. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:27, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Found another image from a new trailer:[[File:SHIELD plane.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]Pretty sure it is a C-17, and it keeps the T tail so god knows how they get it out of that hanger. Luckily, in the shot where the plane is leaving the hanger the design of the door has conveniently changed to accomodate it:[[File:SHIELD plane hanger.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]I think this is either a different hanger or has been massively structurally altered as there is no way the the slot in the top of the hanger is getting wider without a lot of support beams disappearing.--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:50, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I ''think'' the section with support beams is supposed to slide back on runners and open upwards like a garage door. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 06:04, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
I wouldn't read into it too much, its probably ment to be Stark tech or something,so super unrealistic in real world setting, then again this is a show about super heroes. The taildoor also can apparently lift at least 5 tons (both cars standing on it) , although that my be lack of knowledge on my part? --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:17, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
:You should know in fiction anything that lifts can lift infinite weight. Especially any kind of lifting bridge, I know at least two games (''Valkyria Chronicles'' and ''Turning Point: Fall of Liberty'') where lift bridges still function despite having enough tanks on them to collapse them entirely.
Yeah I ment it that maybe it ignorance on my part and it can be done in real life, my knowledge of cargo aircraft is non-existant at best, besides they always give iron mans armor sets a definite amount of strenght in tons (higly unrealistic ussually) but still --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 15:02, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
::The ramp is very capable of doing that, in fact it is designed to be used as a loading aid with pallets being put onto the ramp, and then raising the ramp to get them to slide them into the plane. When fully loaded the last four of the 18 pallets a C-17 can carry are put on the ramp, and each pallet can weigh about 10,000 pounds. This suggests that the ramp is capable of lifting at least 18 tonnes. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:53, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
:I'm calling it right now, tail is a detachable secondary aircraft (possibly with real light and sound and firing missile launchers). [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:59, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
::And a bonus Robin Scherbatsky action figure. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:39, 10 October 2013 (EDT)

==Moving this here==
If I can find a better screencap without the ABC watermark. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 10:38, 2 October 2013 (EDT)

[[File:Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 003.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Phil Coulson ([[Clark Gregg]]) with an M&P.]]
:I think this was cut out of the episode. In the part where Coulson and that woman are fighting together spinning around, there is a cut where they skip half of a turn. It looks really odd, as it just skips a second for seemingly no reason. One would assume they cut it for time, but cutting out something in the middle of a shot is a really odd way to do it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:26, 2 October 2013 (EDT)

== M16s ==

I'm not sure if any of these are M16A2s. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:30, 2 October 2013 (EDT)
[[File:AOS 084 PMP soldiers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PMP soldiers are armed with the M16A2 when they confront Coulson's S.H.I.E.L.D. team (S01E02).]]
:I think the M16s were a mix of A1s with A2 furniture, MGC replicas and M16A4s, didn't see any genuine A2s. I will check again and put up some caps later. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:38, 2 October 2013 (EDT)
::Just went through and although none of the pictured guns are A2s, there is an A2 visible at a few points, although I think there is only the one. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:35, 2 October 2013 (EDT)

== 1911 variant? ==

Not sure what this is, but don't think it is a Colt. It has slanted slide serrations and a commander style hammer (but with what looks like a regular M1911A1 style grip safety):
[[File:MAOS_S01E02_020.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
My guess is that it is an Auto Ord variant (my other guess would be a Springfield Armory, but I think if it was that you would be able to see a large logo on the slide) but I don't really know enough about them to tell for sure. Any ideas? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:01, 3 October 2013 (EDT)

==Unknowns==
[[File:AOS01E03 Dr. Hall.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:AOSS01E03 Agent Coulson.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
^These look like SMith & Wesson M&Ps. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 09:50, 10 October 2013 (EDT)
:They are, it was just Coulson regular M&P that got taken by the first guy, and then taken back. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:29, 10 October 2013 (EDT)

==Unknown X-Ray Rifle==
[[File:AOS S01E04 weapons cache.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rifle is seen next to an AKMS (S01E04).]]

A SCAR-H maybe? The shape of the stock fits.

[[Image:2fff2537c0.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Third Generation FN SCAR-H CQC - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:18, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

Looking at the barrel length it's possibly a SCAR-H Standard with a scope mounted on it.
[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 22:23, 22 October 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

2013-10-23T02:23:35Z

Rockwolf66: /* Unknown X-Ray Rifle */ my opinion

==Transport==
Dorky plane complaint: Wouldn't the jetwash from the front engines disrupt the airflow to the rear engines? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:55, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
[[File:MAOS S01E01 017.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
:The mounts for the engines look overly complicated to me, so my guess is that the plane will turn out to be a VTOL. In that case the only time the rear engines would be needed is for that, when the front engines would be pointing down away from them. Am I correct in thinking that this is a C-17 with bits bolted/CG'd on? (and by bits I mainly mean the second set of lower tail fins with the rear engines) --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:17, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
::It looks like a C-17 to me as well. The hanger has a cutout for the plane's vertical stabilizer, but won't work for this plane since it has a T-tail. I can't tell from the shots if that will be a problem for this plane. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:27, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Found another image from a new trailer:[[File:SHIELD plane.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]Pretty sure it is a C-17, and it keeps the T tail so god knows how they get it out of that hanger. Luckily, in the shot where the plane is leaving the hanger the design of the door has conveniently changed to accomodate it:[[File:SHIELD plane hanger.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]I think this is either a different hanger or has been massively structurally altered as there is no way the the slot in the top of the hanger is getting wider without a lot of support beams disappearing.--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:50, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
::::I ''think'' the section with support beams is supposed to slide back on runners and open upwards like a garage door. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 06:04, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
I wouldn't read into it too much, its probably ment to be Stark tech or something,so super unrealistic in real world setting, then again this is a show about super heroes. The taildoor also can apparently lift at least 5 tons (both cars standing on it) , although that my be lack of knowledge on my part? --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 05:17, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
:You should know in fiction anything that lifts can lift infinite weight. Especially any kind of lifting bridge, I know at least two games (''Valkyria Chronicles'' and ''Turning Point: Fall of Liberty'') where lift bridges still function despite having enough tanks on them to collapse them entirely.
Yeah I ment it that maybe it ignorance on my part and it can be done in real life, my knowledge of cargo aircraft is non-existant at best, besides they always give iron mans armor sets a definite amount of strenght in tons (higly unrealistic ussually) but still --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 15:02, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
::The ramp is very capable of doing that, in fact it is designed to be used as a loading aid with pallets being put onto the ramp, and then raising the ramp to get them to slide them into the plane. When fully loaded the last four of the 18 pallets a C-17 can carry are put on the ramp, and each pallet can weigh about 10,000 pounds. This suggests that the ramp is capable of lifting at least 18 tonnes. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:53, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
:I'm calling it right now, tail is a detachable secondary aircraft (possibly with real light and sound and firing missile launchers). [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 05:59, 26 September 2013 (EDT)
::And a bonus Robin Scherbatsky action figure. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:39, 10 October 2013 (EDT)

==Moving this here==
If I can find a better screencap without the ABC watermark. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 10:38, 2 October 2013 (EDT)

[[File:Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 003.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Phil Coulson ([[Clark Gregg]]) with an M&P.]]
:I think this was cut out of the episode. In the part where Coulson and that woman are fighting together spinning around, there is a cut where they skip half of a turn. It looks really odd, as it just skips a second for seemingly no reason. One would assume they cut it for time, but cutting out something in the middle of a shot is a really odd way to do it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:26, 2 October 2013 (EDT)

== M16s ==

I'm not sure if any of these are M16A2s. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:30, 2 October 2013 (EDT)
[[File:AOS 084 PMP soldiers.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PMP soldiers are armed with the M16A2 when they confront Coulson's S.H.I.E.L.D. team (S01E02).]]
:I think the M16s were a mix of A1s with A2 furniture, MGC replicas and M16A4s, didn't see any genuine A2s. I will check again and put up some caps later. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:38, 2 October 2013 (EDT)
::Just went through and although none of the pictured guns are A2s, there is an A2 visible at a few points, although I think there is only the one. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:35, 2 October 2013 (EDT)

== 1911 variant? ==

Not sure what this is, but don't think it is a Colt. It has slanted slide serrations and a commander style hammer (but with what looks like a regular M1911A1 style grip safety):
[[File:MAOS_S01E02_020.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
My guess is that it is an Auto Ord variant (my other guess would be a Springfield Armory, but I think if it was that you would be able to see a large logo on the slide) but I don't really know enough about them to tell for sure. Any ideas? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:01, 3 October 2013 (EDT)

==Unknowns==
[[File:AOS01E03 Dr. Hall.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:AOSS01E03 Agent Coulson.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
^These look like SMith & Wesson M&Ps. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 09:50, 10 October 2013 (EDT)
:They are, it was just Coulson regular M&P that got taken by the first guy, and then taken back. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:29, 10 October 2013 (EDT)

==Unknown X-Ray Rifle==
[[File:AOS S01E04 weapons cache.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A rifle is seen next to an AKMS (S01E04).]]

A SCAR-H maybe? The shape of the stock fits.

[[Image:2fff2537c0.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Third Generation FN SCAR-H CQC - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 01:18, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
Looking at the barrel length it's possibly a SCAR-H Standard with a scope mounted on it.
[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 22:23, 22 October 2013 (EDT)

User:Rockwolf66

2013-06-01T05:03:07Z

Rockwolf66: /* Film */

==Rockwolf66==

*'''Rank:''' User
*'''Name:''' Paul
*'''Age:''' 32
*'''State:''' OR
*'''Occupation:''' Handyman and general laborer.
===About Me===
I enjoy firearms and I love movies. So this site just seems to be a great place to combine those two interests. We have a great place here and I would love to make it better.

[[File:Saddle Butte 016.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Me firing a M79-40mm grenade launcher.]]

===Pages Created===

== To Do list ==

=== Film ===

*''[[Nemesis (1993)]]'' An Oliver Grunner Sci-Fi flick that some on Cyberpunk.co.uk say has the best gunfights in a Cyberpunk flick.

*''[[Highlander 2]]'' I need to rent this again so I can finish screen capping it.

===My Firearms===
Yes i do own firearms and I have customised for my own comfort.
[[File:Rock_Collection.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Marlin 1894-.44 Magnum,Mossberg 500- 12 Gauge, Ruger 10/22-.22 Long Rifle, and a Remington Model 700P.]]

[[File:Rock_Side_on.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Marlin 1894-.44 Magnum,Mossberg 500- 12 Gauge, Ruger 10/22-.22 Long Rifle, and a Remington Model 700P.]]

===Favorite Firearms===
I enjoy a number of interesting firearms for various reasons.
==MK 14 Mod O EBR==
[[Image:M14EBR.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR. 7.62x51 NATO, with a Harris bipod and vertical RIS foregrip.]]

==Armsel Striker varients==
Yeah I know they are POS weapon IRL.
[[Image:CobrayStreetSweeper.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper with short barrel and top folding stock - 12 gauge. Visibile is the Cobray logo on the side, no visible drum advance lever like on the Striker and the recognizable 'key' in the front of the drum for winding up the rotary cylinder.]]

==Barret M107==
heavy as hell to shoulder but the results are impressive.
[[Image:Berrett M107.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Barrett M107 long range sniper rifle - .50 BMG. Noteworthy is the holes in the lower part of the buttstock and the rail that runs along the top spine of the rifle.]]

==China Lake Launcher==
I've been trying to kill the China lake launcher is the EX-41 meme among those who don't know guns. Lot's of stupid so called experts on this one.
[[Image:US M79 pump-action four-shot 40x46mm grenade launcher.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ultimate M79 Grenade launcher 40mm]]

==DSA SA58 OSW==
Modernized version of the family favorite FN FAL.
[[Image:DSA SA58 Reddot.jpg‎|thumb|500px|none|DSArms SA58 OSW Carbine with Aimpoint sight - 7.62x51mm]]

==Galil SAR==
A very nice semi-compact assault Rifle. I've been lucky enough to get some trigger time on one and I can keep it minute of car door at 100 yards when I use short bursts.
[[Image:Galil-SAR.jpg|thumb|none|450px|IMI Galil SAR - 5.56x45mm]]

==GAU-19/A==
Minigun on steroids, nuf' said.
[[Image:Gau 19-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|GD GAU-19/A with muzzle break and mount - .50 BMG.]]

==Detonics Combatmaster==
Daily carry weapon of a favorite fictional caracter of mine. Personally, I find that the grip is not long enough for my hand. other than that it's a very nice weapon.
[[Image:Detonicscombat-master.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Detonics Combat Master - .45 ACP]]

User:Rockwolf66

2013-06-01T05:02:04Z

Rockwolf66: /* Pages Created */

==Rockwolf66==

*'''Rank:''' User
*'''Name:''' Paul
*'''Age:''' 32
*'''State:''' OR
*'''Occupation:''' Handyman and general laborer.
===About Me===
I enjoy firearms and I love movies. So this site just seems to be a great place to combine those two interests. We have a great place here and I would love to make it better.

[[File:Saddle Butte 016.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Me firing a M79-40mm grenade launcher.]]

===Pages Created===

== To Do list ==

=== Film ===

*''[[Nemesis (1993)]]'' An Oliver Grunner Sci-Fi flick that some on Cyberpunk.co.uk say has the best gunfights in a Cyberpunk flick.

*''[[Steele Justice]]'' an Martin Kove Action flick.

*''[[The Exterminator]]'' a 1980 Vigilante flick.

Note: I have all three Films on VHS tape. Unfortunatly I don't have any of them on DVD so I can screencap them.

===My Firearms===
Yes i do own firearms and I have customised for my own comfort.
[[File:Rock_Collection.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Marlin 1894-.44 Magnum,Mossberg 500- 12 Gauge, Ruger 10/22-.22 Long Rifle, and a Remington Model 700P.]]

[[File:Rock_Side_on.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Marlin 1894-.44 Magnum,Mossberg 500- 12 Gauge, Ruger 10/22-.22 Long Rifle, and a Remington Model 700P.]]

===Favorite Firearms===
I enjoy a number of interesting firearms for various reasons.
==MK 14 Mod O EBR==
[[Image:M14EBR.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR. 7.62x51 NATO, with a Harris bipod and vertical RIS foregrip.]]

==Armsel Striker varients==
Yeah I know they are POS weapon IRL.
[[Image:CobrayStreetSweeper.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper with short barrel and top folding stock - 12 gauge. Visibile is the Cobray logo on the side, no visible drum advance lever like on the Striker and the recognizable 'key' in the front of the drum for winding up the rotary cylinder.]]

==Barret M107==
heavy as hell to shoulder but the results are impressive.
[[Image:Berrett M107.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Barrett M107 long range sniper rifle - .50 BMG. Noteworthy is the holes in the lower part of the buttstock and the rail that runs along the top spine of the rifle.]]

==China Lake Launcher==
I've been trying to kill the China lake launcher is the EX-41 meme among those who don't know guns. Lot's of stupid so called experts on this one.
[[Image:US M79 pump-action four-shot 40x46mm grenade launcher.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ultimate M79 Grenade launcher 40mm]]

==DSA SA58 OSW==
Modernized version of the family favorite FN FAL.
[[Image:DSA SA58 Reddot.jpg‎|thumb|500px|none|DSArms SA58 OSW Carbine with Aimpoint sight - 7.62x51mm]]

==Galil SAR==
A very nice semi-compact assault Rifle. I've been lucky enough to get some trigger time on one and I can keep it minute of car door at 100 yards when I use short bursts.
[[Image:Galil-SAR.jpg|thumb|none|450px|IMI Galil SAR - 5.56x45mm]]

==GAU-19/A==
Minigun on steroids, nuf' said.
[[Image:Gau 19-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|GD GAU-19/A with muzzle break and mount - .50 BMG.]]

==Detonics Combatmaster==
Daily carry weapon of a favorite fictional caracter of mine. Personally, I find that the grip is not long enough for my hand. other than that it's a very nice weapon.
[[Image:Detonicscombat-master.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Detonics Combat Master - .45 ACP]]

User:Rockwolf66

2013-06-01T05:01:43Z

Rockwolf66: /* Rockwolf66 */ update

==Rockwolf66==

*'''Rank:''' User
*'''Name:''' Paul
*'''Age:''' 32
*'''State:''' OR
*'''Occupation:''' Handyman and general laborer.
===About Me===
I enjoy firearms and I love movies. So this site just seems to be a great place to combine those two interests. We have a great place here and I would love to make it better.

[[File:Saddle Butte 016.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Me firing a M79-40mm grenade launcher.]]

===Pages Created===
*''[[fallout 2]]''
*''[[China Lake Launcher]]''
*''[[Jagged Alliance 2: Unfinished Business]]''

== To Do list ==

=== Film ===

*''[[Nemesis (1993)]]'' An Oliver Grunner Sci-Fi flick that some on Cyberpunk.co.uk say has the best gunfights in a Cyberpunk flick.

*''[[Steele Justice]]'' an Martin Kove Action flick.

*''[[The Exterminator]]'' a 1980 Vigilante flick.

Note: I have all three Films on VHS tape. Unfortunatly I don't have any of them on DVD so I can screencap them.

===My Firearms===
Yes i do own firearms and I have customised for my own comfort.
[[File:Rock_Collection.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Marlin 1894-.44 Magnum,Mossberg 500- 12 Gauge, Ruger 10/22-.22 Long Rifle, and a Remington Model 700P.]]

[[File:Rock_Side_on.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Marlin 1894-.44 Magnum,Mossberg 500- 12 Gauge, Ruger 10/22-.22 Long Rifle, and a Remington Model 700P.]]

===Favorite Firearms===
I enjoy a number of interesting firearms for various reasons.
==MK 14 Mod O EBR==
[[Image:M14EBR.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR. 7.62x51 NATO, with a Harris bipod and vertical RIS foregrip.]]

==Armsel Striker varients==
Yeah I know they are POS weapon IRL.
[[Image:CobrayStreetSweeper.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper with short barrel and top folding stock - 12 gauge. Visibile is the Cobray logo on the side, no visible drum advance lever like on the Striker and the recognizable 'key' in the front of the drum for winding up the rotary cylinder.]]

==Barret M107==
heavy as hell to shoulder but the results are impressive.
[[Image:Berrett M107.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Barrett M107 long range sniper rifle - .50 BMG. Noteworthy is the holes in the lower part of the buttstock and the rail that runs along the top spine of the rifle.]]

==China Lake Launcher==
I've been trying to kill the China lake launcher is the EX-41 meme among those who don't know guns. Lot's of stupid so called experts on this one.
[[Image:US M79 pump-action four-shot 40x46mm grenade launcher.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ultimate M79 Grenade launcher 40mm]]

==DSA SA58 OSW==
Modernized version of the family favorite FN FAL.
[[Image:DSA SA58 Reddot.jpg‎|thumb|500px|none|DSArms SA58 OSW Carbine with Aimpoint sight - 7.62x51mm]]

==Galil SAR==
A very nice semi-compact assault Rifle. I've been lucky enough to get some trigger time on one and I can keep it minute of car door at 100 yards when I use short bursts.
[[Image:Galil-SAR.jpg|thumb|none|450px|IMI Galil SAR - 5.56x45mm]]

==GAU-19/A==
Minigun on steroids, nuf' said.
[[Image:Gau 19-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|GD GAU-19/A with muzzle break and mount - .50 BMG.]]

==Detonics Combatmaster==
Daily carry weapon of a favorite fictional caracter of mine. Personally, I find that the grip is not long enough for my hand. other than that it's a very nice weapon.
[[Image:Detonicscombat-master.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Detonics Combat Master - .45 ACP]]

Talk:FN Five-seveN

2013-03-19T08:32:18Z

Rockwolf66: /* Stopping Power of this pistol? */

==Additional Images==

[[Image:Five-seveN USG OD Gre.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN Five-seveN USG with olive-drab frame - 5.7x28mm]]

hello, (my first post ever here)

can someone edit the page itself so it is referred to as:
"FN Five-seveN"
(I don't know how to do this, I came across this issue when trying to search for this firearm but struck me a strange that there was no entry for it, then I realised the description is incorrect in the database)

that, I have seen, is the official designation by Fabrique Nationale de Herstal (and FNH USA):
http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/model.asp?fid=FNF003&gid=FNG001&mid=FNM0004
http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/family.asp?fid=FNF003&gid=FNG001&cid=FNC01

also, should I edit all other references of "FN Fiveseven" to "FN Five-seveN®", adhereing to FNH's registered trademark usage,

thanks(!!)
:The name change is done. I don't know if the trademark thing is really necessary, though. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 02:44, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

==Stopping Power of this pistol?==

First Person Shooter games I've played featuring PDWs often have them possess a low damage-per-bullet firing ratio. This, of course, is usually made up with a high firing rate for the PDWs, but both the Five-SeveN and HK's "Ultimate Combat Pistol" are semiautomatic. I've heard criticism about how PDW rounds with their low diameter supposedly have low stopping power (especially in semiautomatic pistol applications), but I'm not sure just how close to reality it is.

I can't help but wonder if FN saved the medical data from the Fort Hood massacre to determine just how much stopping power the Five-SeveN actually has on unwilling human subjects. After all, I'm sure the autopsies (for those who died) and the trama reports (for those who survived) are quite detailed with respect to which ammunition was used, how the victims were hit and why they died or survived. Could be quite interesting for someone looking to "improve" the lethality of the ammunition and "reduce the failure rate." While "live" weapons testing on live human beings (much like how feudal Japanese swordsmiths often handed their creations to skilled swordsmen to chop cadavers or execute condemned criminals all in the name of weapons testing) is clearly unethical and legally banned today, I am still driven to wonder if such study methods would be more accurate than testing on ballistic gelatin, cadavers, etc.

I also hear that the HK UCP was cancelled, though I can't find out the exact reasons why. Pff, there is no "ultimate weapon" in a class for all situations, and to claim otherwise is arrogance at best and false advertising at worst. Maybe it would have succeeded if it was a machine pistol, could take the MP7's 40-round magazines, and called the MP7 UCP (which in this case would stand for "UltraComPact").

In any case, I'd like this cleared up on whether this popular perception of PDW rounds having low per-bullet-stopping power ratios is accurate or not. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 04:33, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

First rule in terminal ballistics is Shot placement. that is the most important aspect of killing anything with bullets. second is the size and design of those bullets. With any given bullet design the size and weight of the bullet is some indication of how much damage it will do. The issue with PDW rounds is that they take an assault Rifle round and put it into pistol sized pacage. this means that the penatration is better than a normal handgun round but the damage is not that much better. There is a reason why such weapons as 5.56mm Entryguns are so popular.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 04:40, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:PS: the 5.7X28mm round blows up milkjugs really good when fired from a FN FiveseveN pistol. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 04:32, 19 March 2013 (EDT)

== The Hit List (2011) ==

Just a heads up: the Five-seveN is used extensively by the villain in The Hit List (2011), and there is even a scene where detectives have a conversation about the gun. I noticed the movie doesn't have its own article yet, but I added it to the films list in this article. [[User:MDM282|MDM282]] 23:21, 22 May 2011 (CDT)

== threaded barrel and silencer aftermarket item ==

May I grin at the idea of a silencer on a pistol with a muzzle velocity at least twice the speed of sound? I know that silencers are useful for supersonic rifles in at least confusing the source of the muzzle blast at a distance, but pistols are used at short range. 9mm with silencer is used with ammo with 147gr bullet at subsonic velocities. Any rational for silencing a pistol with supersonic ammo, beyond reducing the level of report that reaches the shooter? Or is there a reason it is an aftermarket item only? --[[User:Carl N. Brown|Carl N. Brown]] 09:54, 4 August 2012 (CDT)
:Doesn't it also reduce the muzzle flash? I've heard that the 5.7 generates a really bright one, so a suppressor seems like it would be useful. - [[User: 2wingo]]

Yes, long pistol rounds like the 5.7x28mm, the 4.6x30mm, and the 10x25mm rounds will all produce a lot of muzzle flash from "common" pistol barrel lengths. In general, the narrower the projectile fired and the longer the casing of the round in question, the more muzzle flash will result. The former is because the flash is transmitted towards the muzzle more efficiently due to a narrower barrel, and the latter because there is more smokeless powder to burn and produce that flash. This is exacerbated the shorter the barrel a round is fired from. A suppressor will give more room for propellant gases to burn and thus reduce or eliminate muzzle flash--this will extend to the Five-seveN, though of course subsonic loadings of the 5.7x28mm cartridge are missing the point--a small, high velocity caliber intended to penetrate soft body armour. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 23:47, 18 March 2013 (EDT)

Volmer HK51

2013-03-07T05:31:02Z

Rockwolf66: Correcting the redirect to the proper page.

#REDIRECT[[Heckler & Koch G3#Volmer HK51-B]]

Heckler & Koch G3

2013-03-07T05:28:48Z

Rockwolf66: /* Video Games */ New section for a new G3 varient.

‎
'''The Heckler & Koch G3 and variants have been seen in the following films, television series, video games, and anime used by the following actors:'''

= Heckler & Koch G3 =
[[Image:CETME G3.JPG|thumb|right|400px|Early Heckler & Koch G3 rifle with wooden handguard and buttstock - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch G3A3 with slimline handguard - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:G3a3.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch G3A3 with wide handguard - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:SouthAfricanG3.jpg|thumb|right|400px|South African version of the Heckler & Koch G3A3 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:G3A3.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch G3A3 with Navy trigger-group - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
==Specifications==
(1958 - 1997)

* '''Type:''' Battle Rifle

* '''Caliber:''' 7.62x51mm NATO

* '''Weight:''' {{convert|kg|4.5}}

* '''Length:''' {{convert|mm|1023}}

* '''Barrel length:''' {{convert|mm|450}}

* '''Capacity:''' 20-round box & 50-round drum

* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto / Full-Auto

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===Film===
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|-
| [[Argo]]|| || Iranian Revolutionary Guards || || 2012
|-
| [[Nokas]]|| || Bank robbers || Norwegian AG3 variant || 2010
|-
| [[A-Team, The (2010)|The A-Team]]|| || Mexican soldiers || || 2010
|-
| [[Fire of Conscience]]|| [[Leon Lai]] || Detective Manfred |||| 2010
|-
| [[Balibo]] || || FRELITIN guerrillas || || 2009
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| [[Shake Hands with the Devil (2007)|Shake Hands with the Devil]]|| ||UN peacekeepers and Rwandan soldiers|||| 2007
|-
| [[Blood Diamond]]|| ||RUF rebels|| Early model G3 rifles|| 2006
|-
| [[The Last King of Scotland]]|| || Ugandan soldiers || || 2006
|-
| [[Munich]]|| ||German police officers|| G3A3ZF variant with 4x sight|| 2005
|-
| [[Hotel Rwanda]]|| || UN Belgian Soldiers || South African Version || 2004
|-
| [[Sniper 3]]|| || || || 2004
|-
| [[Bone Snatcher, The|The Bone Snatcher]]||[[Patrick Shai]]|| Titus ||South African Version || 2003
|-
| [[Bone Snatcher, The|The Bone Snatcher]]||[[Rachel Shelley]]|| Mikki ||South African Version || 2003
|-
| [[Bone Snatcher, The|The Bone Snatcher]]||[[Warrick Grier]]|| Karl ||South African Version || 2003
|-
| [[A Man Apart]]|| || Memo's guards || || 2003
|-
| [[Black Hawk Down]]|||| Somali Militiamen || || 2001
|-
| [[Savior]]|| || French Foreign Legion Recruits || || 1998
|-
| [[Broken Arrow]]|| || NEST team member || || 1996
|-
| [[Clear and Present Danger]]|| || Colombian Military Police || || 1994
|-
| [[RoboCop 3]] || || Detroit Police officers || || 1993
|-
| ''[[The Democratic Terrorist]]''|| || German soldier || ||1992
|-
| [[Predator 2]]|| || LAPD officers || With laser sights || 1990
|-
| [[Predator 2]]|| || Colombian Gang || || 1990
|-
|''[[Laser Mission]]'' || [[Brandon Lee]] || Michael Gold || || 1989
|-
|''[[Laser Mission]]'' || || soldiers || || 1989
|-
|''[[Laser Mission]]'' || Pierre Knoessen || Mañuel || || 1989
|-
|''[[Laser Mission]]'' || Maureen Lahoud || Sgt. Roberta || || 1989
|-
| [[Midnight Run]]|| || Mafia sniper || With brass catcher || 1988
|-
| [[Braddock: Missing In Action 3]]|| [[Chuck Norris]] || Colonel Braddock || fitted with an underslung 6 shot launcher || 1988
|-
| [[Nonstop Trouble with the Family]]||[[Dieter Hallervorden]]|| Kongo-Otto||G3 with slim handguard and wide handguard. ||1985
|-
| [[Solo Voyage]]||Mikhail Nozhkin|| Major Shatokin||Also carried by American soldiers ||1985
|-
| [[Day of The Dead (1985)|Day of the Dead]]||[[Ralph Marrero]] || Pvt. Rickles || || 1985
|-
| [[Terminator, The|The Terminator]] || || Human resistance fighters || With proprietary bipod || 1984
|-
| [[Under Fire]]|||| Chadian rebels ||.||1983
|-
| [[Sorcerer]] || || Venezuelan soldiers || Early model G3 rifle || 1977
|-
| [[Marathon Man]] || || Guards || Early model G3 rifle || 1976
|-
| [[Killer Elite, The (1975)|The Killer Elite]] ||. || Hitmen ||Early model G3 rifle ||1975
|-
|}

=== Television ===
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
|''[[Alarm für Cobra 11 - Die Autobahnpolizei]]'' || Various || . || G3A3 || 1996-????
|-
| ''[[Situation Critical]]'' /Hunting Pablo Escobar || || || G3A3 || 2007 -
|-
| rowspan="9"|''[[Ultimate Force]]'' || || Police SO19 snipers ||rowspan="3"|Heavily customised with extended skeletonised butt pad, large cheek riser, bipod handguard, heavy barrel, telescopic sight, and removed iron sights || rowspan="9"|2002 - 2006
|-
| [[Jamie Michie]] || Cpl. Finn Younger
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| [[Josh Dallas]] || Weaver
|-
| [[Liam Garrigan]] || Cpl. Ed Dwyer || With slimline forearm and PRR pressel
|-
| [[Ross Kemp]] || SSgt. Henry "Henno" Garvie ||With slimline forearm, Aimpoint 5000 sight and PRR pressel
|-
| [[Ian Duncan]] || Hector Du Preez || rowspan="3"|With slimline forearm and telescopic sight
|-
| [[Adam Croasdell]] || Pierre Du Preez
|-
| [[Lucian Msamati]] || Blessing
|-
| || Columbian soldiers and rebels || With slimline forearm
|-
| ''[[24]]'' ||[[Kiefer Sutherland]] || Agent Jack Bauer || || 2001 -
|-
| ''[[Ultimate Weapons]]'' / Heavy Metal || || German soldier || || 2009
|-
|}

=== Anime ===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Cowboy Bebop]] ||Red Dragon Syndicate Members || || 1998 - 1999
|-
| [[Spriggan]] ||Yu || G3A3|| 1998
|-
| [[Gunslinger Girl]] ||Triela || || 2004
|-
| [[Black Lagoon]] ||Rock || || 2006
|-
| [[Upotte!!]] ||Jiisuri||G3A3　equipped with bipod and a large magnification scope. || 2012
|}

=== Video Games ===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Release Date'''
|-
| [[Söldner: Secret Wars]] ||HK G3 A3 ||||slimline handguard || 2004
|-
| [[Battlefield 2]] || || || || 2005
|-
| [[Project Reality]] || || With optional Zeiss Z-Point red dot sight, Hensoldt Model 2 scope, bayonet, and [[Heckler & Koch HK69A1 grenade launcher#HK79|HK79 grenade launcher]] || || 2005
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear]] || || || || 1999
|-
| [[Sum of All Fears, The (VG)|The Sum Of All Fears]] ||"7.62mm AR" ||slimline handguard ||G3A3 || 2002
|-
| [[Rainbow Six 3: Black Arrow]] || G3A3 (7.62mm)||ACOG Scope||A3 model with wide handguard||2004
|-
| [[Delta Force: Black Hawk Down|Delta Force: Black Hawk Down: Team Sabre]] || || || || 2004
|-
| [[Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield]] || || || || 2003
|-
| [[Alliance of Valiant Arms]] || || || || 2007
|-
| [[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots]] || || || || 2008
|-
|[[Battlefield: Bad Company 2]] || || || || 2010
|-
|[[Medal of Honor (2010)|Medal of Honor]] ||G3A3 || || || 2010
|-
|[[Fallout 3]] || "Assault Rifle" || Early Version || || 2008
|-
| [[7.62 High Calibre]] || || ||w/ various attachments|| 2008
|-
| [[Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light]] || "High Power Assault Rifle" || ||A3 with wide handguard|| 2010
|-
| [[Battlefield Play4Free]] || As the "G3A4" || || Wth wide handguard and optional EOTech or Sightmark Sure Shot red dot sight || 2011
|-
| [[Battlefield 3]] || G3A3 || || G3A3 with wide handguard and various optional accessories || 2011
|-
|[[Medal of Honor: Warfighter]] ||HK G3 || ||w/ various attachments || 2012
|-
|[[Arctic Combat]] |||| |||| 2012
|-
|}

 

= Heckler & Koch G3A4 =
[[Image:G3A4.jpg|400px|thumb|right|Heckler & Koch G3A4 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
G3 with a sliding stock.
==Specifications==
(???? - ????)

* '''Type:''' Battle Rifle

* '''Caliber:''' 7.62x51mm NATO

* '''Weight:''' {{convert|kg|4.7}}

* '''Length:''' {{convert|mm|840}} Stock Collapsed, {{convert|mm|1025}} Stock Extended

* '''Barrel length:''' {{convert|mm|450}}

* '''Capacity:''' 20-round box & 50-round drum magazine

* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto

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===Film===
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[The Viral Factor]]|| [[Carl Ng]] || Ross || With red-dot sight and railed handguard || 2012
|-
| [[Marine 2, The]]|| [[Ted DiBiase Jr.]] || Joe Linwood || || 2009
|-
| [[Shake Hands with the Devil (2007)|Shake Hands with the Devil]]|| ||UN peacekeepers|||| 2007
|-
| [[The Last King of Scotland]]|| || Ugandan soldiers || || 2006
|-
| [[Equilibrium]]|| || Resistance Fighters || || 2002
|-
| [[The Replacement Killers]]|| [[Jürgen Prochnow]] || Michael Kogan || || 1998
|-
| [[Braddock: Missing in Action III]]|| [[Chuck Norris]] || Col. James Braddock || With 6-shot underbarrel grenade launcher || 1988
|-
|}

=== Television ===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Seconds From Disaster]]/Munich Olympic Massacre || || West German Police || || September 13, 2006
|-
| rowspan="2"|[[Ultimate Force]] || [[Ross Kemp]] || SSgt. Henry "Henno" Garvie ||With slimline forearm, Aimpoint 5000 sight and PRR pressel || rowspan="2"|2002 - 2006
|-
| || Colombian Army soldiers || With tropical forearm
|-
| [[24]] ||[[Kiefer Sutherland]] || Agent Jack Bauer || || 2001 -
|-
|}

=== Anime ===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Characters'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notes'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Date'''
|-
| [[Black Magic M-66]] || || || 1987
|-
|}
=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Operation Flashpoint]] || || || || 2001
|-
| [[Far Cry 2]] || G3KA4 || w/ 30-round magazine || || 2008
|-
| [[7.62 High Calibre]] || || ||w/ various attachments|| 2008
|-
| [[Jagged Alliance: Back in Action]] ||G3A3|| w/ 30-round magazine||||2012
|-
|[[Medal of Honor: Warfighter]] ||HK G3 || ||w/ various attachments || 2012
|-
|}

 

= Heckler & Koch G3KA4 =
[[Image:G3KA4.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch G3KA4 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
Carbine version of the G3 with a sliding stock and shorter barrel.

=== Television ===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Chris Ryan's Strike Back]]'' || [[Andrew Lincoln]] || Hugh Collinson ||With tactical flashlight and red dot sight|| 2010
|-
|}

=== Anime ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Characters'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notes'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Date'''
|-
| [[Black Magic M-66]] ||Commandos, Sybel, Leakey ||fitted with carry handle || 1987
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Vegas]] || G3KA4 || w/ optional suppressor, red dot sight, laser pointer, & ACOG || holds 30+1 rounds || 2006
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Vegas 2]] || G3KA4 || w/ optional suppressor, red dot sight, laser pointer, & ACOG || holds 30+1 rounds || 2008
|-
| [[7.62 High Calibre]] || || ||w/ various attachments|| 2008
|-
| [[Medal of Honor: Warfighter]] ||HK G3 || ||w/ various attachments|| 2012
|-
|}

 
=Volmer HK51-B=
Unofficial rifle. With only 30 pieces. This is the basic version of the modernization of weapons. Charging system has been changed. The model "B" is fed from the tape M60. Gun shoots 7.62x51mm NATO ammunition. Undertook the conversion of the company F.J.Volmer and Company, Inc..

[[file:HK51-b.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Volmer HK51-B - 7.62x51mm NATO. Without ammunition belt.]]
[[file:Hk51ba.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Volmer HK51-B - 7.62x51mm NATO. With ammunition belt.]]

== Video Games ==

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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| ''[[Firearms: Source]]'' || || || || ??
|-
|}
 

= Heckler & Koch G3SG/1 =
[[Image:H&KSG1.jpg‎ |thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch G3SG/1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
Accurized G3 with a wide forearm and bipod with a sniper stock and a scope. Automatic fire is retained.
==Specifications==
(???? – ????)

* '''Type:''' Sniper Rifle

* '''Caliber:''' 7.62x51mm NATO

* '''Weight:''' {{convert|kg|5.54}}

* '''Length:''' {{convert|mm|1025}}

* '''Barrel length:''' {{convert|mm|450}}

* '''Capacity:''' 20 round box or 50 round drum

* '''Fire Modes:''' Safe/Semi/Auto

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=== Film ===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Heineken Kidnapping, The|The Heineken Kidnapping]] |||| Dutch SWAT team |||| 2011
|-
| [[Four Lions]] |||| Police snipers |||| 2010
|-
| [[Inception]] |||| Dream snipers |||| 2010
|-
| [[The Sniper]] |||| Hong Kong SDU Sniper team || ||2009
|-
| [[Baader Meinhof Complex, The (Der Baader Meinhof Komplex)| The Baader Meinhof Complex]]|| || Police sniper || || 2008
|-
| [[New Police Story]]|| [[Daniel Wu]] || Joe Kwan || || 2004
|-
| [[Shiri]]|| [[Yoon-jin Kim]] || Bang-Hee || || 1999
|-
| [[A Life Less Ordinary]]|| [[Holly Hunter]] || O'Reilly || || 1995
|-
| [[Romeo + Juliet]]|| || Verona Beach Police sniper || || 1995
|}

=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[Lady Cop (Die Kommissarin) - Season 1]] || [[Michael Roll]] || Holger Hellwig || "Zwerg Nase" (S01E01) || 1994
|-
| [[Lady Cop (Die Kommissarin) - Season 2]] || [[Günther Maria Halmer]] || Karl Rehmann || "Totentanz" (S02E08) || 1995
|-
| [[Lady Cop (Die Kommissarin)]] || || German police || || 1994 - 2006
|-
| [[Stargate: SG1]] || [[Richard Dean Anderson]] || Colonel Jack O'Neill || || 1997 - 2007
|-
|}

=== Video Games ===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[7.62 High Calibre]] || HK G3SG/1 ||bayonet, laser & flashlight modules, Aimpoint Comp ML XD red dot sight or Hensoldt ZF telescopic sight||option of 5 or 20-round magazine and has a built-in bipod||2008
|-
| [[Counter-Strike Online]] || D3/AU-1 || || || 2007
|-
| [[Project Reality]] || || With Hensoldt Model 2 or Hensoldt ZF6x42PSG1 scope || || 2005
|-
| [[Counter Strike: Source]] || D3-AU/1 || || || 2004
|-
| [[Counter-Strike: Condition Zero]] || D3-AU/1 || || || 2004
|-
| [[Enter the Matrix]] || 33SG || || || 2003
|-
| [[Max Payne 3]] || FMP G3S || || || 2012
|-
| [[Counter-Strike: Global Offensive]] ||G3-SG/1|||| ||2012
|-
|}

===Anime===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
|''[[Cat Planet Cuties]]''|| || ||2010
|-
|}

=Heckler & Koch PSG-1=
[[Image:H&KPSG01.jpg‎ |thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch PSG-1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:H&KPSG01LongMag.jpg‎ |thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch PSG-1 with 20-round magazine - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:HK PSG1A1.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch PSG 1 A1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]

The PSG-1 is a heavily modified G3 rifle with semi-auto only functions. Most claim it to be the most accurate semi-automatic rifle in the world, however it is quite expensive. The current price to Law Enforcement today is about $10,000 per unit. Since no more rifles are being imported for civilian sales, those original German guns that are currently in the country have risen to about $15,000 per unit for a pristine example.
==Specifications==
(1972 – Present)

* '''Type:''' Sniper Rifle

* '''Caliber:''' 7.62x51mm NATO

* '''Weight:''' {{convert|kg|8.1}}

* '''Length:''' {{convert|mm|1230}}

* '''Barrel length:''' {{convert|mm|650}}

* '''Capacity:''' 5, 10 or 20-round box or 50 round drum

* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto

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=== Film ===
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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Elephant White]] || || || with folding bipod, in weapons cache ||2010
|-
| [[The Sniper]] ||[[Edison Chen]] || Hong Kong SDU Sniper team || a fake 'build up' PSG1 , 20 round magazine ||2009
|-
|''[[Largo Winch (2008)|Largo Winch]]''|| [[Steven Waddington]] || Stephan Marcus || ||2008
|-
| [[Vantage Point]] || || || Automated Platform ||2008
|-
| [[Dragon Squad (2005)]] ||[[Maggie Q]] || Yuet || a fake 'build up' PSG1 , 20 round magazine ||2005
|-
| [[Kill Bill Vol. 1]] || || O-Ren Ishii || animated segment ||2003
|-
| [[Lethal Weapon]] ||[[Mel Gibson]] || Detective Martin Riggs || With folding bipod and 20-round magazine ||1987
|-
| [[Cube Zero]]|| || || Converted into tranquilizer gun ||2004
|-
|}

=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[The Unit]] || [[Max Martini]] || Sergeant Max Gerhardt || ||S1E02 / "Stress"/ 2006
|-
| [[E-Ring]] || || Mexican cartel sniper || ||S1E21/ "Isolation"/ 2006
|-
| [[Red Cap]] || || German SEK || ||2003 - 2004
|-
| [[Deadliest Warrior]] || || GSG-9 sniper || ||2009-???
|-
| [[Luther]] || || CO19 sniper || || 2010
|}

=== Anime ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Mezzo DSA]] || Kazuto || || 2004
|-
| [[Patlabor: The Movie 2]] || Tokyo Metro Police Sniper || || 1993
|-
| [[Case Closed]] || Chianti || || 2006
|-
| [[Case Closed: The Raven Chaser]] || Chianti || || 2009
|-
| [[High School of the Dead]]|| || ||2010
|-
| [[Appleseed]] || ES.W.A.T. snipers|| || 1988
|-
| [[Asobi ni Ikuyo: Bombshells from the Sky]] || || || 2010
|}

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[7.62 High Calibre]] || HK PSG-1||bipod||option of 5 or 20-round magazine has a built-in Hensoldt 6x42 Telescopic Sight ||2008
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear]] || HK PSG-1 || || || 1999
|-
| [[Ghost Recon]] || "7.62mm Sniper" || || || 2001
|-
| [[Söldner: Secret Wars]] || || || || 2004
|-
| [[Resident Evil 5]] || || || || 2009
|-
| [[Grand Theft Auto IV]] || || || || 2008
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Vegas 2]] || || || || 2008
|-
| [[Area-51]] ||SR-125 "Wraith" || || || 2005
|-
| [[Reservoir Dogs (video game)]] || Sniper Rifle || || || 2006
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Vegas]] || || With 6x, 12x, or variable-magnification scopes || || 2006
|-
| [[Rainbow Six: Vegas (PSP)]] || || || || 2007
|-
| [[Code of Honor]] || || || || 2007
|-
| [[Scarface: The World is Yours]] || Sniper Rifle || || || 2006
|-
| [[Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter]] || || || || 2006
|-
| [[Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes]] || || || Also featured as "PSG1-T" tranquilizer rifle || 2004
|-
| [[Conflict: Desert Storm II: Back to Baghdad]] || || || || 2003
|-
| [[Project IGI 2: Covert Strike]] || || Available with and without suppressor || || 2003
|-
| [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City]] || || || || 2002
|-
| [[Delta Force: Task Force Dagger]] || || w/ suppressor || || 2002
|-
| [[Sum of All Fears, The (VG)|The Sum Of All Fears]] ||"7.62mm SR" || || || 2002
|-
| [[SOCOM II: US Navy SEALs]] || || || || 2002
|-
| [[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty]] || || ||Also featured as "PSG1-T" tranquilizer rifle || 2001
|-
| [[Delta Force: Land Warrior]] || || w/ suppressor || || 2000
|-
| [[Metal Gear Solid]] || || || || 1998
|-
| [[Urban Terror]] || || || || 1998
|-
| [[Little Busters!]] || || || ||2007
|-
| [[Call of Duty: Black Ops]] || || || Anachronism ||2010
|-
| [[The 3rd Birthday]] || || || ||2010
|-
| [[Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D]] || || || || 2011
|-
| [[Jagged Alliance: Back in Action]] ||KH PSG 1 || || ||2012
|-
| [[Resident Evil: Revelations]] || || |||| 2012
|-
|}
 

=Heckler & Koch HK91=
[[Image:HK_Model_91.jpg‎|thumb|400px|right|HK91-A2 Rifle with Standard Stock ''Note lack of third position for automatic fire'' - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:HK91A3.jpg|thumb|400px|right|HK91-A3 with factory telescoping Stock - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
==Specifications==
(1964 - 1976)

* '''Type:''' Rifle

* '''Caliber:''' 7.62x51mm NATO

* '''Weight:''' {{convert|lbs|10.9}}

* '''Length:''' {{convert|in|42.5}}

* '''Barrel length:''' {{convert|in|19.7}}

* '''Capacity:''' 5 or 20 round box or 50 round drum

* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto

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===Film===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[Act of Valor]] || || Enemy soldier || HK91-A2 model, fitted with a MIL-STD-1913 Picatinny rail || 2012
|-
| [[Resident Evil: Afterlife]]||[[Sergio Peris-Mencheta]] || Angel Ortiz || HK91A2 with fitted railed handguard ||2010
|-
| [[The Kingdom]]||[[Jamie Foxx]] || Ronald Fleury || ||2007
|-
| [[Miami Vice (2006)]]|||| Yero's henchmen || HK91A2 models ||2006
|-
| [[Miami Vice (2006)]]||[[John Ortiz]] || Yero || HK91A3 model ||2006
|-
| [[44_Minutes:_The_North_Hollywood_Shootout|44 Minutes: The North Hollywood Shootout]] || [[Andrew Bryniarski]] || Larry Eugene Phillips Jr. || HK91A3 - Converted to full-automatic || 2003
|-
| [[Spider-Man]]|| || Armored Van Robbers || || 2002
|-
| [[Jurassic Park II: The Lost World]]||[[Peter Stormare]] || Dieter Stark || Scope and Tactical Flashlight ||1997
|-
| [[The Long Kiss Goodnight]] ||.||Henchman||.||1996
|-
| [[Heat]]||[[Val Kilmer]] || Chris Shiherlis || Factory Bipod ||1995
|-
| [[The Fugitive]]|| || Chicago P.D. SWAT Sniper || w/ Scope ||1993
|-
| [[Hard to Kill]]|| || L.A.P.D. SWAT || ||1990
|-
| [[Tremors]]||[[Michael Gross]] || Burt Gummer || HK91A2 || 1990
|-
| [[Dragnet]]|| || L.A.P.D. SWAT || w/ Scope ||1987
|-
| [[Commando]]||[[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] || John Matrix || ||1985
|-
| [[Deal of the Century]]||[[Chevy Chase]] || Eddie Muntz || Factory Bipod ||1983
|-
|}

===Television===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| [[The Stand]] || || Randall Flagg's Henchmen || || 1994
|-
| [[Alien Nation - The Series]] || [[Gary Graham]] || Matthew Sikes || || 1989 - 1990
|-
| [[A-Team, The|The A-Team]] || || Various || || 1983 - 1988
|-
|}

===Video Games===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare]] || G3 || || Fires fully-automatic in singleplayer || 2007
|-
|}

 

=Heckler & Koch SR9 =
''NOTE: Due to the relatively low number of SR9Ts and SR9TCs imported to the United States, '''most of the SR9 variants appearing in Hollywood movies are actually conversions of HK91s done by Hollywood's armorers'''. The images here on IMFDB of SR9s are images of actual movie "SR9s".''

[[ Image:H&KSR9T.jpg‎ |thumb|400px|right|Heckler & Koch SR9(T). This is a 'faux' SR9(T) movie gun converted from an HK91, with an SG/1 style buttstock (instead of the correct MSG90 style) and PSG trigger pack - 7.62x51mm]]
[[Image:HKSR9TC.jpg|thumb|400px|right|H&K SR9(TC) rifle with tropical forearm and bipod - 7.62x51mm. The TC version has the PSG buttstock as well as the trigger pack.]]
==Specifications==
(1990 - Present)

* '''Type:''' Sniper Rifle

* '''Caliber:''' 7.62x51mm NATO

* '''Weight:''' {{convert|lbs|10.9}}

* '''Length:''' {{convert|in|42.5}}

* '''Barrel length:''' {{convert|in|19.7}}

* '''Capacity:''' 5 or 20 round box magazine

* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto

-----

=== Film ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| [[District 9]]|| ||MNU mercenary|| || 2009
|-
| [[Dog Soldiers]]|| [[Darren Morfitt]] || Private "Spoon" Witherspoon || SR9(T), scope removed, 20-round magazine ||2002
|-
| [[Dog Soldiers]]|| [[Leslie Simpson]] || Private Terry Milburn || SR9(T), scope removed, 20-round magazine ||2002
|-
| [[End of Days]]|| || || SR9(TC) || 1999
|-
| [[The Replacement Killers]]||[[Til Schweiger]]|| Ryker || SR9(T) ||1998
|-
| ''[[Point Blank (1998)|Point Blank]]''||Werner Schreyer|| Billy || SR9(TC) ||1998
|-
| [[U.S. Marshals]]|| || Kentucky State Police officer || SR9(T), 20-round magazine ||1998
|-
| [[G.I. Jane]]||[[Viggo Mortensen]]|| Master Chief Urgayle || SR9(T) ||1997
|-
| [[The Jackal]]||[[Richard Gere]]|| Declan Mulqueen || SR9(TC) ||1997
|-
| [[The Jackal]]||[[Daniel Dae Kim]]|| Akashi || SR9(TC) ||1997
|-
| [[Heat]]|| || Police Sniper || SR9(T) ||1995
|-
| ''[[Top Dog]]'' || || San Diego SWAT || || 1995
|-
| [[Stargate]]|| [[John Diehl]] || Lt. Kawalsky || SR9(TC) ||1994
|-
| [[Sniper]]|| [[Billy Zane]] || Richard Miller || SR9(TC) ||1993
|}

=== Television ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
|'' [[CSI: Miami]] || [[David Caruso]] || Lt. Horatio Caine ||"Going, Going, Gone", (SR9(T)) || 2002 -
|-
| ''[[Space: Above and Beyond]] || [[Rodney Rowland]] || Cooper Hawkes || (SR9(T)) || 1995 - 1996
|-
| '' [[Lost]] || [[Terry O'Quinn]] || John Locke || "Everybody Hates Hugo", (SR9(T) w/ 20-round mag) || 2006
|-
|}
 

=Heckler & Koch MSG90=
[[Image:HKMSG90.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch MSG90 - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[Image:HKMSG90A1.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch MSG90A1 with Harris bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
A much more common G3 variant than its predecessor, the PSG-1. The MSG-90 is made to withstand more harsh conditions without sacrificing capability, and coincidentally is a little bit cheaper than the PSG-1.

==Specifications==
(1972 – Present)

* '''Type:''' Sniper Rifle

* '''Caliber:''' 7.62x51mm NATO

* '''Weight:''' {{convert|kg|6.4}}

* '''Length:''' {{convert|mm|1165}}

* '''Barrel length:''' {{convert|mm|600}}

* '''Capacity:''' 5, 10 or 20-round box or 50 round drum

* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto

-----

=== Video Games ===
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Game Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="150"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|''' Release Date'''
|-
| [[7.62 High Calibre]] || HK MSG-90A1||bipod, laser & flashlight modules, Hensoldt ZF telescopic sight||option of 5 or 20-round magazine||2008
|-
| [[Alliance of Valiant Arms]] || As the "MSG90A1" || || || 2007
|-
| [[Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2]] ||"MSG-90" || || || 2007
|-
| [[Soldier of Fortune II - Double Helix]] ||"MSG90A1" || || || 2002
|-
| [[Shadow Force: Razor Unit]] || "M25" || || || 2002
|-
| [[Fallout Tactics]] || "DKS-501 Sniper rifle"|| ||holds only 6 rounds || 2001
|-
| [[The World Is Not Enough (video game)|The World Is Not Enough]] || "Deutsche SA90" || || || 2000
|-
| [[Combat Arms]] || "MSG-90"|| || || 2004
|-
| [[Left 4 Dead 2]] || "Sniper Rifle" || With barrel-mounted weaponlight and optional laser sight 30 rounds || Fitted with AK-74 muzzle break and G3's foregrip, bipod, rear sight, and scope mount || 2009
|-
| [[MAG]] || "H M 90" || ||heavily modified || 2010
|-
| [[Tactical Ops: Assault on Terror]] || "SR 90" || || holds only 5 rounds || 2002
|-
| [[Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light]] || "Fast Action Rifle"|| |||| 2010
|-
| [[Sniper: Ghost Warrior]] || "MSG 90" || || || 2010
|-
| [[Spec Ops: The Line]] || "MSG 90" || || || 2012
|-
|}
 

=See Also=
{{HK}}

[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Rifle]]
[[Category:Battle Rifle]]
[[Category:Sniper Rifle]]
[[Category:Carbine]]

Heckler & Koch HK33

2013-03-07T05:27:29Z

Rockwolf66: /* Volmer HK51-B */ This belongs on the G3 page not the HK33 page. It's a cut down HK91.

[[Image:HK33 A2.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch HK33-A2 Select Fire rifle with Factory 40rd Magazine. The original magazines available for the HK33 were only the 25-round and the 40-round. The 30-round curved magazine was developed during the introduction of the Civilian HK93 rifle and was provided for that rifle. ]]

= Heckler & Koch HK33 =
[[Image:HK33w25rdMag.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch HK33A2 Select Fire rifle with Factory 25rd Magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:HK93FS.jpg|thumb|right|400px|HK33A3 Rifle with newer F style Telescoping stock - 5.56x45mm. This version has the 30-round magazine sold with the HK93 Sporter Rifle. It is obviously slightly longer than the 25-round military magazine. Only the Semi Auto rifle was offered with a 30-round magazine from the factory.]]
[[File:HK33K.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch HK33KA3 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:HK33HK79.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch HK33A2 (5.56x45mm) with [[HK79]] under-barrel 40mm grenade launcher.]]

==Specifications==
(1968 - ????)

* '''Type:''' Assault Rifle

* '''Caliber:''' 5.56x45mm NATO

* '''Weight:''' {{convert|kg|3.65}}

* '''Length:''' {{convert|mm|940}} (stock extended), {{convert|mm|735}} (stock retracted)

* '''Barrel length:''' {{convert|mm|390}}

* '''Feed System:''' 25, 30, 40 round magazines

* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto / 3-round Burst (optional) / Full-Auto

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{{Gun Title|H&K HK33}}

== Film ==

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
|''[[A-Team, The (2010)|The A-Team]]'' || || Mexican soldier || With scope || 2010
|-
|''[[Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li]]'' || || SWAT officers || With scopes || 2009
|-
| ''[[Baader Meinhof Complex, The (Der Baader Meinhof Komplex)]]'' ||[[Sandra Borgmann]] || Ruth || With sawed-off barrel and 40-round magazines taped "jungle-style" || 2008
|-
| ''[[Baader Meinhof Complex, The (Der Baader Meinhof Komplex)]]'' ||[[Hannes Wegener]] || Willy Peter Stoll || With 40-round magazine and sawed-off barrel || 2008
|-
| ''[[Baader Meinhof Complex, The (Der Baader Meinhof Komplex)]]'' || || RAF terrorists || With 40-round magazines and sawed-off barrels || 2008
|-
| ''[[War (2007)|War]] ||[[Sung Kang]]'' || Goi || With scope, 30-round magazine, and integral bipod || 2007
|-
| ''[[Four Brothers]]'' || || SWAT sniper || With scope, 30-round magazine, and integral bipod || 2005
|-
|''[[Typhoon]]'' || || UDT/SEAL commandos || HK33K, with flashlights and laser sights || 2005
|-
|''[[Belly of the Beast]]'' || || Thailand soldiers || || 2003
|-
|''[[The Score]]'' || || Montreal Police SWAT || With 40-round magazines || 2001
|-
|''[[Chain Reaction]]'' || || Henchman || With scope. || 1996
|-
|''[[Léon (The Professional)]]'' || || NYPD ESU officers || HK33A2 and HK33A3 versions || 1994
|-
|''[[Last Action Hero]]'' || || Assassin || HK33A3 version || 1993
|-
|''[[Darkman]]'' || || Henchmen || With 40-round magazines || 1990
|-
|''[[Lock Up]]'' || || Prison guards || || 1989
|-
|''[[Year of the Dragon]]'' || || Bang Sung's soldiers || With 40-round magazines || 1985
|-
|''[[Night of the Comet]]'' || [[Karl Johnson]] || Guard #1 || || 1984
|-
|''[[Scarface]]'' || || || Seen in display case, with 40-round magazine || 1983
|-
|}

== Television ==

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Show Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Air Date'''
|-
| ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' || [[Tony Curran]] || Sgt. Pete Twamley || HK33A3 with scope & bipod || 2002 - 2006
|-
| ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' ||[[Danny Sapani]] || Cpl. Ricky Mann || HK33A3 with scope & bipod || 2002 - 2006
|-
| ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' ||[[Elliot Cowan]] || Cpl. Jem Poynton || HK33A3 with scope & bipod || 2002 - 2006
|-
| ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' ||[[Derek Horne]] || Sgt. Sean Smith || HK33A3 with scope & bipod || 2002 - 2006
|-
| ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' ||[[Christopher Fox]] || Cpl. Louis Hoffman ||HK33A3 with bipod|| 2002 - 2006
|-
| ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' |||| French Special Forces || HK33A3 || 2002 - 2006
|-
|''[[Ultimate Force]]'' || || SAS Blue Troop soldiers || HK33A3 || 2002 - 2006
|-
| ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' |||| British police sniper || HK33A2 fitted with scope and integral bipod|| 2002 - 2006
|-
| ''[[Tremors: The Series]]'' || [[Michael Gross]] || Burt Gummer || "Night of the Shriekers" || 2003
|-
| ''[[GSG-9]]'' || || GSG-9 Agent||Chopped Barrel, 20 Round Mag, Grenade Launcher and Red Dot Sigth || 2007 - 2008
|-
|}

==Video Games==
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Appears as'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Mods'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="220"|'''Notation'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Release Date'''
|-
| ''[[Deadhunt]]'' || HK33 || || || 2005
|-
| ''[[Tactical Ops: Assault on Terror]]'' || "PK3 Rifle" || || Full-auto only || 2002
|-
| ''[[Jagged Alliance: Back in Action]]'' ||"G41"|| |||| 2012
|-
|}

==Anime==

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="275"|'''Film Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="300"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="100"|'''Date'''
|-
|''[[Angel Beats!]]'' || || || 2010
|-
|''[[Full Metal Panic!|Full Metal Panic!: The Second Raid]]'' || || || 2005
|-
|''[[New Dominion Tank Police]]'' || Police officer || HK33A3 || 1993
|-
|}

= Heckler & Koch HK93=
[[Image:HK93FullStock.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch HK93A2 Full Stock Rifle with 25-round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:VectorArmsV93.jpg |thumb|right|400px|Vector Arms V-93 Full Stock Rifle with 40-round magazine - 5.56x45mm. Vector Arms is an American firearms manufacturer who is currently building a high quality clone of the HK33/93 rifles. The biggest visual difference between the Vector Arms V-93 guns and the original German rifles is the addition of an enlarged "MP5 Navy" style trigger group on the American gun and a single piece molded plastic buttstock (Like the later model MP5 stocks), a feature that is not present on the German rifle.]]
The HK93 is the semiautomatic civilian version of the HK33 Rifle imported into the United States between 1975 and 1989 (the year that all 'evil' looking rifles were in essence barred from import without some modifications). It is actually an updated version of the Civilian HK43 Rifle (which was the semi auto sporting rifle variant of the HK33 imported 1974.). It differs from the select fire HK33 by way of a metal trigger pack, no push pin assembly and no paddle release as well as the single "0" and "1" fire select settings (indicating it is a Semi Auto only rifle).

==Specifications==
(1975 - 1989)

* '''Type:''' Assault Rifle

* '''Caliber:''' 5.56x45mm NATO

* '''Weight:''' {{convert|kg|0}}

* '''Length:''' {{convert|mm|0}}

* '''Barrel length:''' {{convert|mm|0}}

* '''Feed System:''' 25, 30, 40 round magazines

* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto

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{{Gun Title|H&K HK93}}

== Film ==

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
|''[[Rambo: First Blood]]'' || [[Brian Dennehy]] || Sheriff Will Teasle || || 1982
|-
|''[[Thing, The (1982)|The Thing]]'' || || Norwegian || With Hensoldt Model 2 scope and 40-round magazine || 1982
|-
|''[[Escape from LA]]'' || [[A.J. Langer]] || Utopia || With integral bipod || 1996
|-
|}

==Television==

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="250"|'''Note / Episode'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Date'''
|-
| ''[[Hit & Miss]]'' || [[Chloë Sevigny]] || Mia || with bipod, sound suppressor, sniper scope and night vision scope|| 2012
|-
|}

 

=Heckler & Koch HK53=
[[Image:H&KHK53-1.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch HK53A3 - 5.56x45mm NATO]]
The HK53 is essentially the HK33 reduced to the size of a [[Heckler & Koch MP5]]. It is used by some military units and SWAT teams when both the power of a rifle and the compactness of a submachine gun is needed.

==Specifications==
(1975 - ????)

* '''Type:''' Assault Rifle

* '''Caliber:''' 5.56x45mm NATO

* '''Weight:''' {{convert|kg|3.05}}

* '''Length:''' {{convert|mm|755}} (stock extended), {{convert|mm|563}} (stock retracted)

* '''Barrel length:''' {{convert|mm|211}}

* '''Feed System:''' 25, 30, 40 round magazines

* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto / 3-round Burst (optional) / Full-Auto

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{{Gun Title|H&K HK53}}
==Film==

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|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF
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|''[[Boondock Saints, The|The Boondock Saints]]'' || || || Seen in armory || 1999
|-
|''[[Belly of the Beast]]'' || [[Byron Mann]] || Sunti || || 2003
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|''[[Belly of the Beast]]'' || || Kidnappers and Abu Karaf fighters || || 2003
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|''[[Elephant White]]'' || || || in weapons cache || 2010
|}

==Television==

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|-
| ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' || [[Chris Ryan]] || SSgt. Johnny Bell || || 2002 - 2006
|-
|''[[Ultimate Force]]'' || [[Tony Curran]] || Sgt. Pete Twamley || || 2002 - 2006
|-
|''[[Ultimate Force]]'' || [[Danny Sapani]] || Cpl. Ricky Mann || || 2002 - 2006
|-
| ''[[Ultimate Force]]'' ||[[Elliot Cowan]] || Cpl. Jem Poynton || || 2002 - 2006
|-
|''[[Ultimate Force]]'' || [[Sendhil Ramamurthy]] || Tpr. Alex Leonard || || 2002 - 2006
|-
|''[[Red Cap]]'' || [[Tamzin Outhwaite]] || Sgt. Joe McDonagh || || 2003 - 2004
|-
|}

==Anime==

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| ''[[Spriggan]]'' || ARCAM scientist || || 1994
|-
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== Video Games ==

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| ''[[Jagged Alliance 2]]'' || || || || 1999
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| ''[[Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies]]'' || || || Seen in cutscenes, non-playable || 2001
|-
| ''[[Söldner: Secret Wars]]'' || |||| || 2004
|-
| ''[[Battlefield 2]]'' || HK53A3 || With 40-round magazine || || 2005
|-
| ''[[James Bond 007: Blood Stone]]'' ||"MP5"|| || Hybridized with H&K [[MP5A3]] || 2010
|-
| ''[[Battlefield 3]]'' ||G53 || With 30-round magazine || || 2011
|-
| [[Battlefield Play4Free]] || As the "G53" || With 30-round magazine || with optional EOTech red dot sight or M145 MGO scope || 2011
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| ''[[Jagged Alliance: Back in Action]]'' ||MP53|| |||| 2012
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|}
 

= Heckler & Koch G41 =
[[Image:H&Kg41.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch G41 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:HK G41-32.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Heckler & Koch G41A2 - 5.56x45mm]]
Developed in the 1980's, the G41 is an HK33 modified to {{STANAG}} standards. Besides having a uniquely-attached "burst" trigger group (Safe-Semi-3 round burst-Auto), the G41 could take [[M16 rifle series|M16]] magazines. What killed the design was its outrageous price of $1,700 per weapon for law enforcement in 1980's dollars.
==Specifications==
(1983 - 1996)

* '''Type:''' Assault Rifle

* '''Caliber:''' 5.56x45mm NATO

* '''Weight:''' {{convert|kg|4.1}}

* '''Length:''' {{convert|mm|997}} (stock extended), {{convert|mm|740}} (stock retracted)

* '''Barrel length:''' {{convert|mm|450}}

* '''Feed System:''' {{STANAG}}

* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto / 3-round Burst / Full-Auto

-----
{{Gun Title|H&K G41}}
== Video Games ==

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|-
|'' [[Jagged Alliance 2]] || || || || 1999
|-
|}
 

=See Also=
{{HK}}
[[Category:Gun]]
[[Category:Rifle]]
[[Category:Assault Rifle]]
[[Category:Carbine]]

Talk:Mossberg 500 series shotgun

2013-02-10T18:46:14Z

Rockwolf66: /* Name */

==Additional Variants==
[[Image:Roadblocker1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mossberg 500 Roadblocker with Barrett style flash hider - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Mossber500CPistolGrip.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mossberg 500AT Shotgun with Pistol Grip and Custom Choke similar to one used in the film ''[[Raw Deal]]'' - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Mossberg500withHeatShield.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 500 with heat shield - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Mossberg500WithGhostSight.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 500 with Ghost Ring Sights - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Mossberg_500_wooden.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 500 with wooden furniture, frequently used by hunters - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Mossberg590Modified.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 Combat model (Parkerized) with 500C wood forearm and stock - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Mossberg 500 tactical.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 500 Tactical Shotgun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:XREPM500.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 500 XREP with XREP shells - 12 gauge]]
[[File:Moss500CruiserForegrip.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]] fitted with foregrip and saddle shell holder - 12 Gauge]]
[[Image:Mossberg_590A1_SBS.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590A1 SBS - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Mossberg500CruiserwithForegrip.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 500 Cruiser with heat shield & foregrip - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Moss590Knoxx.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 with heat shield and Knoxx Spec Ops stock - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Moss590A1Short.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590A1 Short Barrel]]
[[Image:Moss590M4.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590 with heat shield and M4-type stock - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Moss500shorty.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 500 shorty with pistol grip and MP5K foregrip (foregrip in the film ''[[Reign of Fire]]'' is "Tommy Gun" style) - 12 gauge.]]
[[Image:M590A1M4stock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 590A1 with M4 stock - 12 gauge]]
[[File:MossbergHDef.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 500 "Homeland Defender" - 12 gauge]]
[[File:MossbergHD.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mossberg 500 "Homeland Defender" with police folding stock - 12 gauge]]
[[File:Mossberg door.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mossberg 500 "Persuader" with door breaching brake, folding stock and shell holder - 12 gauge]]
[[File:Moss500Persuader.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mossberg 500 "Persuader" (left view)with door breaching brake, folding stock and shell holder - 12 gauge]]
[[File:Mossberg 500 Chainsaw.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Mossberg 500 Chainsaw - 12 gauge]]

==Airsoft Variants==
[[Image:Mossberg 500-590.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Airsoft replica of a Mossberg 500 "Cruiser" with a heat shield - 12 gauge]]

==Crap==
In trying to upload a picture of a Mossberg Cruiser with foregrip I accidentally cocked up what uploaded picture was which and unintentionally replaced a couple of pictures. I clicked upload before I noticed that filenames for those already existed. Is there any means of salvaging this? I'm really sorry. - [[User:Kooshmeister|Kooshmeister]]

:You just have to revert to the previous version of the image. I just did this. It's no big deal. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:39, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

The wood foregrip of early models is very rare and highly sought after.

==What is this?==

[[Image:Jackass-Mossberg500-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the Mossberg as Hruska prepares to fire at Knoxville.]]

That's been baffling me a bit - what is that thing at the foreend? A laser sight? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 15:27, 17 July 2011 (CDT)

:Think you are right, looks like a standard laser sight with a remote switch. As for the mount, it looks like a Laser Devices dual ring mount, which attaches onto the end of the buffer tube. They make them for most shotguns and can take a torch, or a laser sight using a collar. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:10, 25 September 2011 (CDT)

== 590 CC vs. FABARM ==

Does anyone know how the 590 Compact Cruiser compares to the FABARM Martial Ultra-Short? I'm writing a story where one of the main character's weapons is a compact shotgun, and I'm set on using the one or the other. - [[User: 2wingo]]
:Main question would be, where is the story set? If it is in the US then I don't think you would be able to import it due to BATF regulations. Disregarding this, or if the story is set in Europe, then you get an extra round in the magazine of a Mossberg and the barrel is about 4 inches longer giving you more range with a tighter spread, but conversely it is longer and more cumbersome. I have never fired the Fabarm, but from my uninformed perspective I would choose the 590 based on the fact that it is more tried and tested, probably more reliable, and it will be much easier to get more spares and after-market parts. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:37, 14 December 2012 (EST)
:: The story takes place in New York City. The character gets all her guns from an unscrupulous gun store owner with ties to the black market. - [[User: 2wingo]]

== "Mariner" shotguns ==

Is it just me, or does it seem tactically unsound to give a shotgun a shiny, reflective barrel? I mean, even if you're just hunting, the light reflecting off that thing could easily catch your quarry's attention and scare it away. And side question: Why is it even called that? - [[User: 2wingo]]
:Mariners are not for hunting, they're for marine environments. The finish protects the gun from moisture and salt corrosion. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 02:42, 6 January 2013 (EST)
:: I see. Thanks! - [[User: 2wingo]]

== Name ==

Is there a special name for a Cruiser with a Mariner finish? Mariner Cruiser? (I've been using "Mariner Cruiser." And which section should it go under, Cruiser or Mariner? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:14, 8 February 2013 (EST)

There's no section called "Mariner", only Cruiser, and it should obviously go under section Cruiser. I'm just a little curious about shotguns without stock, why do you need to fire it from hip? [[User:TitaniumAlloy|TitaniumAlloy]] ([[User talk:TitaniumAlloy|talk]]) 11:39, 10 February 2013 (EST)
:Pistol grip shotguns are a product of both the way most repeating shotguns feed and the National Firearms Act. With most repeating shotguns by reducing barrel lenght you reduce the magazine capacity. Plus under the NFA you have minimum barrel and overall lenghts.This means that you can only legally shorten a barrel so far before neading a $200 tax stamp and registering the firearm with the BATFE. Back in the 1980 you had alot of police departments on a budget having to do drug raids. Alot of departments could not afford a bunch of $200 tax stamps but they could afford alot of rear pistol grips. Plus pistol gripped shotguns fit in budget patrol cars better. Hense the name "Cruiser" As far as fireing it from the hip it works much better fireing it from eye level.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] ([[User talk:Rockwolf66|talk]]) 13:46, 10 February 2013 (EST)