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Talk:Chicago P.D. - Season 3

2022-07-12T17:38:10Z

Repoman: /* Olinsky's Revolver */ new section

== Compact 1911 ==

I'm not entirely sure that the gun shown under the Colt Officers ACP is indeed an ACP. Just from looking at the picture of it on the table, the pistol in the episode has different sights, a different hammer, ambi safety and the extended magwell, and while I'm not entirely sure, I think the slide serrations are angled and not straight and there appears to be some writing on the slide itself, I just can't make it out.[[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] ([[User talk:Bristow8411|talk]]) 21:38, 17 September 2016 (EDT)

Derek Keyes ([[Bokeem Woodbine]]) is seen using a Compact pistol, sometimes with a suppressor.
[[File:CPDS3E01 12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The suppressed pistol is drawn in "Life is Fluid" (S3E01).]]
[[File:CPDS3E01 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the suppressed pistol in "Life is Fluid" (S3E01).]]
[[File:CPDS3E01 19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pistol on the desk in "Life is Fluid" (S3E01).]]

It's almost certainly a [[Springfield Armory Ultra Compact]] variant. On another note, I'm not sure the revolver is a Model 629 snub, I think it's more likely a [[Smith & Wesson Model 66]] snub. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 02:39, 18 September 2016 (EDT)

I don't know a large amount about short barreled models of 1911s, seeing as in Canada we really can't own them, but don't they all have the Springfield Armory logo on the slide? I don't see it on any of the photos [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] ([[User talk:Bristow8411|talk]]) 04:53, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
: Well we don't really have good photos showing the side of the gun, in any event the SA logo can wear off. Could even be edited out digitally for copyright reasons (quite unlikely but possible). That said, I go with the Ultra Compact because this is clearly a Officer's sized 1911, which only a couple of other companies make (the rest make ultra compacts that are 3" or [[Colt Defender|"Defender"]] sized). Main thing is that the features of the gun match those on Springfields, particularly the grip safety shape, as well as the flared magwell. To be fair, however, most features interchange between 1911s though, it still could be a newer Colt gun, modded up a bit. Without a clear showing of markings no way to be completely certain. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 16:18, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
::The featured gun has a barrel bushing though, whereas a SA Ultra Compact doesn't meaning that this isn't one. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:29, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
::: ^ Indeed. Bah. That and the wonders some sharpening can do.. I enhanced the last image a bit, Slide looks like it reads 'COLT OFFICERS ACP' to me. And then there's the Colt grips, which I seemed to overlook. Anyway, I think you got a definitive answer now. The Officer's ID was/is correct. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 16:32, 18 September 2016 (EDT) <BR>[[File:CPDS3E01 19.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Sharpened Image.]]

== Olinsky's Revolver ==

In S3 E22, Olinsky is seen drawing a Smith and Wesson Revolver, anyone know what model?

Talk:The Andy Griffith Show

2014-08-30T01:19:03Z

Repoman: /* Additional Images */

Talk:The Expendables 2

2013-01-23T07:21:00Z

Repoman:

==Hemsworth's piece==
[[Image:Ex2Hemsworth.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Lima Hemsworth also has an AR-15 type rifle in the teaser, but only the combat scope on the waepon is seen clearly. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 07:12, 15 December 2011 (CST)

It's a Barrett [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:22, 17 August 2012 (CDT)

== Poster ==

As good as the poster looks, is actually the real one? I seem to remember it coming out a few weeks ago but was dismissed as an incredibly well made fake, as the text at the bottom is gibberish. Having said that, the weapons (for the most part, G36K rather than G36C) and costumes seem to match, so perhaps it is an early mockup with gibberish text as a place holder, but either way I believe Millennium Films requested that it be taken down from various websites. I believe the poster below, boring as it may be, is the official one that was released with the trailer.--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:22, 15 December 2011 (CST)
[[File:The-expendables-poster.jpg|thumb|300px|none|''The Expendables 2'' (2012)]]

==Character Posters==
[[Image:HemsworthM4.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Billy "The Kid" Timmons [[Liam Hemsworth]] holding an [[M4A1]] in a poster for the Expendables 2.]][[Image:Couture.jpg|thumb|center|300px| [[Randy Couture]] wields a [[M4A1]] in a poster for the Expendables 2.]][[Image:Jet-li-poster-the-expendables-2.jpg|thumb|left|300px| [[Jet Li]] also wields a [[Noveske Rifleworks Diplomat]] in a poster for the Expendables 2.]][[Image:Bruce-willis-poster-the-expendables-2.jpg|thumb|center|300px| [[Bruce Willis]] as Mr. Church wielding an [[Heckler & Koch HK416]] in a poster for the Expendables 2.]][[Image:Arnold-schwarzenegger-poster-the-expendables.jpg|thumb|left|300px| Arnold Schwarzenegger holding an AA12 in the movie poster for his character.]][[Image:TerryAA12.jpg|thumb|center|300px|Terry Crews holding an AA12 in the movie poster for his character.]]

[[File:Expendables 2 poster cropped.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Cropped version of the poster showing the Noveske Rifleworks Diplomat. Just visible in this image is the Vltor logo on the forward assist housing.]]

== Arnold and AA-12 ==

It does remind me of Commando. --[[User:Eisiishai|Eisiishai]] 03:30, 17 December 2011 (CST)

== Behind the scenes ==

Bunch of BTS weapon pics
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=36991167#post36991167
:If those aren't "official" behind the scenes images I don't think they are allowed to be posted here, you will have to check with a mod. However, while searching to find out where they came from, I found the following [http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.265642526828218.63020.115601671832305&type=1 facebook gallery] that has all of those images and more where I saw something insetting. In two of the pictures ([http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/546414_333627663363037_115601671832305_912554_356253241_n.jpg] and [http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/485714_333628380029632_115601671832305_912579_1021573352_n.jpg]) you can see that a few background people are using the AKs mocked up as M16s that were first used in ''[[Universal Soldier: Regeneration]]'' (that page IDs them as Arsenal rifle, but just realised whilst checking for this that they are actually Valmets). I find it hard to believe that they were able to get ACRs, SCARs, G36s, SG552s but couldn't get their hands on a genuine M16A2 but am fairly sure that is what they are (it is shot in Bulgaria as well). It could be the case that the "main" enemy weapons like the sniperised ACRs are shipped in, wheras the "background" enemy weapons like these fake M16s and the AKs (probably Arsenal ARs) are locally sourced. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:18, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
:Like I said, I would check with a mod first before adding any more of these behind the scenes images. When exactly the same situation occurred with the latest Transformers movie the images were removed so I wouldn't bank on it being different in this case. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:37, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
::It looks like some guy posted some personal photos. The facebook page is just a fan site as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 08:33, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
:::Unless these are official images they need to come down immediately; someone tell me if there's any sign of these being officially approved so I can tell if they need to be deleted completely or not. Also, the site's tagline is "guns in movies," not "guns on the floor of a warehouse." [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 08:35, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
::::We're not allowed to post amateur BTS shots of films? Video game pages do it all the time. The guy's clear to post them on his facebook, hence all the stars posing with him. Also probably better to move the images to Discussion rather than delete them completely so sections can be restored when the film comes out. As for "no guns outside of movie footage", you should check some of the site's pages. Many of them use shots like that as it's the only way to get a clean view of them.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 09:01, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
:::::You're not allowed to use amateur shots unless it is ''absolutely'' clear that they have been released with the permission of the studio. I'm not sure what you mean about video games, we ''don't'' allow things like the MW3 leak on pages. And the problem isn't guns outside of movies, it's when the only picture of a gun on the page is it sitting on the floor of a warehouse, with no proof it's ever going to make it into any cut of the movie that a cinema-goer actually sees or for that matter is even in the movie. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:19, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
::::::There isn't really that much point moving to the discussion as right now apart from the disallowed photos all the sections contain is "X is seen in a BTS photo", which won't be in the entry when the page is made properly, so why preserve it? With other pages that include ''official'' behind the scenes images and caps, they are useful to show details of the gun and to help ID it. The links to the galleries are in this discussion page if anyone wants to look at the photos to help ID stuff when the movie comes out, so for now lets just wait and see what actually turns up in the movie. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:27, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
:::::::"''I'm not sure what you mean about video games, we don't allow things like the MW3 leak on pages."'' Uh, might want to double check that, the MW3 leak was there since the leak up until game release''."it's when the only picture of a gun on the page is it sitting on the floor of a warehouse, with no proof it's ever going to make it into any cut of the movie"'' The pics were taken specifically to show what guns would be in the movie. The reason there are two of them in each photo is in case one breaks, that's how much they're going to be using them. ''"all the sections contain is "X is seen in a BTS photo", which won't be in the entry when the page is made properly, so why preserve it?"'' Well, for me, I check this page (and others) before release because I want to know what guns will be used so I can get even more excited for seeing it. That's why many other people come to this site. You didn't think pages were traffic graveyards until release, did you? Also, what's the point of a site that covers guns in media if it suppresses info on guns in media.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 11:45, 17 April 2012 (CDT)
::::::::Just because a gun is on set doesn't mean it will be used (and if it is whether it will actually be visible in the finished film), that is pure presumption. And how do you know that "The pics were taken specifically to show what guns would be in the movie."? From what I have seen they are just pictures that were taken by a random extra or crew on set, if they were officially released by the film makers to show the range of weaponry that they will be using I'm fairly sure they wouldn't have been taken with such a crappy camera and would be available through other channels than forums and facebook pages. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:57, 17 April 2012 (CDT)
::::::::The MW3 leak was ''not'' up until the game was released, I removed those shots from the page myself almost as soon as they were put up. Leaked or unofficial images are not allowed, that's why the upcoming template specifically says all images must be from official sources. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 12:21, 17 April 2012 (CDT)
:::::::::New trailer shows Hemsworth with a Barret, JCVD with an AUG A3, and promo shots show Dolph with an MGL. Just like how all the MW3 leaked guns were in the final game, so will the guns from those shots be in this film, as they were obviously going to be since the beginning. Disturbing that a mod for the site seeks to reduce the info on guns in films and doesn't know much about film production.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 14:33, 3 May 2012 (CDT)
::::::::::Umm, just cause something appears in a promo or trailer does not, in fact, mean it appears in the film. There was a trailer for Predators that showed Adrian Brody standing there with around a dozen of the Predator laser sights focused on his chest, making it look like he was up against an army of predators. In the movie, there was a single laser on his chest, as he faced just the 1. In a trailer for the 3 Stooges movie, there's a scene where a nun in a bathing suit gets out of the pool and Curly comments on her hair being different. That scene was not in the final movie. There was another movie I recall awhile back(mighta been Blade 3 but I won't swear to it), where a weapon was shown on the film's official website that didn't make it into the movie itself either. So actually, no, just because a gun is on set somewhere does NOT mean it will a)make it to the final cut of the film, or b)make it into a scene where it can actually be identified. For example, a movie set might have a mix of Russian AKs, Chinese Norincos, and Bulgarian Arsenal ARs, then just randomly give them to "background" soldiers or whatever, where they won't be seen clearly enough to be identified individually in the film itself. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 02:26, 5 May 2012 (CDT)
Temp89, Tim is just doing his job. We could have serious reprocusions here if we posted unauthorised images here. We have several "deals" made with parties in the film industry and we got them by not posting Pirated or "leaked" information. On the Public Enemies page we had an image of a screen used M1911 machine pistol that we had to remove due to the studio's say so. While we might not have liked it it does cover our butts as far as the studios are concerned.[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 15:36, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

== New Trailer ==

New trailer has debuted...anyone up for going through it?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQf3YP8p85I&feature=youtu.be

==Couture's poster==

This one: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Couture.jpg. Are you sure that's a Diplomat he's holding? The front sight and the barrel are wrong... -[[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 18:17, 6 June 2012 (CDT)
Well I think is M4 CQBR, although i put it under M4A1 Carbine.... -[[User:Kweon|Kweon]]

Barrel's too long to be a CQB-R / Mk. 18 Mod 0 - I'd say it's a 933. --Stix
:It isn't either, it is just a regular M4. You can see the step down for the grenade ring on the barrel ahead of the front sight. However, I think the barrel has been squashed down in photoshop so that the muzzle is on the poster, or the angle is making it look shorter than it is. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 13:57, 5 July 2012 (CDT)

I still think it might be a 933... I think we're agreed that the barrel's too long to be a Mk. 18, and *as pictured* it's way too short to be an M4 - looking hard at it, it's hard to tell what's barrel, what's flash hider and whether there's a squashed grenade ring or not. Yeh, it could be a photoshopped M4, but why would they bother to do that? I see the little dint in the barrel that might be a grenade ring, but could that not just be a blurry part of the flash hider? --Stix

:The gun he is physically holding is definitely an M4. [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_aL2DTDEFXs/T6qN_Fbw2XI/AAAAAAAAMPE/IX5aRsSr-pY/s1600/g3qko6Oj.jpg Here] is a higher res image where you can see the detail of the barrel. On an M4. the barrel is full width when it comes out of the front sight base, then tapers down at the greande ring before stepping up in thickness again, and then stepping down to a slightly norrower diameter just before the flash hider, as seen below: [[File:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|M4A1 for reference]] All of these features are clearly visible on the poster, they have just been compressed to allow the gun to fit on the poster. A model 933 barrel is not contoured once it comes out of the front sight base. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:34, 11 July 2012 (CDT)

::Fair enough - I bow to your superior knowledge of boom-stix. :)
::I could make out all of the details you pointed out on the lower rez poster but was confused by the apparent stubbiness of the barrel... I also should humbly confess that my main reason for joining the discussion was the hope that spotting a slightly lesser known rifle would make me look cool.
::Looking at the higher rez pic now, it looks a little more like the barrel is the proper length (for an M4) and it's only the angle of the camera that makes it look shorter - comparing the barrel forward of the front sight with the length of the handguard (using my thumb as a ruler), they actually seem to be pretty close.
::Would the guys in charge of promoting the movie really edit an image to shorten a gun and make it fit in the photo frame? I still can't figure out why anyone would bother... Contrite respect --Stix
::(ps - I hope you'll forgive my correcting the spelling mistake in your last post :/ )

Just saying, but I believe that "grenade ring" is called a ''barrel step''. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:02, 4 August 2012 (CDT)

== Lundgren's Poster ==

Fairly new to the site, so if I'm doing anything wrong, please let me know. Anyways, Lundgren seems to be holding a grenade launcher in this promo poster, looks like a Milkor MGL Mk 1S? http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/EX2_Lundgren.jpg

== Awesomeness ==

So, just saw and it, well, it's basically 100 minutes of badass. Better than the first...more action(and more clearly shot), more humor, more violence, just basically upped everything from the first. Admittedly I was having too much fun just watching but I noticed a lot more guns(and knives, and brass knuckles, and a tomahawk!) were used, too. Was having too much fun to really try and ID most of them, but I'm fairly certain Vilain uses a Walther P99(or one of the licensed versions) as well as his AUG. Also of note, Gunnar does indeed use the MGL shown on the poster, Maggie uses a UMP, and Christmas actually fires the MASS(to breach a door) as well as the M4 portion. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 18:58, 17 August 2012 (CDT)

Vilain indeed uses the Walther P99. Also in addition to his SAA and the Kimbers, I believe Barney Ross uses a SIG-Sauer in the beginning, then Maggie uses it. I couldn't tell exactly which model, it did look compact though [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] 20:43, 17 August 2012 (CDT)

:Aye I saw Barney use something other than his usual pistols but I didn't notice what it was. I thought Maggie's pistol looked like a SIG but wasn't certain(and wasn't aware it was the gun Barney was using, the team swapped weapons out quite often here!). [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 00:21, 18 August 2012 (CDT)

It was certainly way more entertaining than the first film. As for the specific SIG model I am not sure, but I believe that it is a P226. There's a picture from the movie on Stallone's Facebook page that shows him holding it. [[FluidJordan]] 18:37, 18 August 2012 (EST)

the sig used by Barney and Maggie are both SIG Pro SP2022 http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/c/c7/SIG-SauerP2022Pro.jpg --[[User:Anarchy66660|Anarchy66660]] 18:25, 18 August 2012 (CDT)

Barney Ross does have then surrenders a SIG when they first meet Van Damme. Other guns i noticed were In the opening scene Toll Road has an M4 with what looks like an M320 grenade launcher attatched, though it may be the same AG36 seen in punisher warzone. Hale ceaser has a pistol during the faux america eastern block shoot out but i didnt notice what kind. Both Mauser and CHurch scoop M4's up off the floor when they run out of ammunition in the tiny car scene and bth have pistols holstered on their legs, i coulndt see what they were but id like to hope arnie was rcking out a desert eagle for prosperitys sake. Id also like to mention that they are not the exact same Kimber warriors as seen in the first film as they have at least new grips with a gold press stamped on them. --[[User:CaptainSnikt|CaptainSnikt]] 09:38, 20 August 2012 (CDT)
:Arnold should pulled out a Desert Eagle like the one that was dressed up like a Russian gun and Bruce Willis shoulda pulled out his famous Beretta from Die Hard. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:44, 23 August 2012 (CDT)

== Barret realism ... kinda ==

Am i the only one surprised they didn't over over power the Barret this is the one movie i think would granted its not the most realistic but still at least it didn't blow back 2 yards --[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] 20:33, 23 August 2012 (CDT)

You mean the part where a man's head blows up when hit with a .50? Yeah, that happens. Though I found it odd that it seems like the Barret was all Billy was carrying and he wasn't carrying anything else while taking point. Thing musta been heavy as hell [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:43, 23 August 2012 (CDT)
:From my experiance the M82 Barret is like packing a M240 Machinegun. So Yeah it is that heavy. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 22:53, 23 August 2012 (CDT)

Yeah we should check out whether or not the Barret was rubber when he was doing that can't imagine it any other way ... --[[User:Blueboy1600|Blueboy1600]] 00:21, 24 August 2012 (CDT)

That is an odd choice of weapon for a point man. If he had run into trouble(...) what was he supposed to do, open up with a .50 rifle? I realize they weren't expecting trouble but still, in their line of work... [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 00:23, 24 August 2012 (CDT)

==Who's doing this?==

So this movie's been out for a week now. Any takers? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 19:57, 27 November 2012 (EST)

== removing some of the trailer caps ==

I'm removing some of the lesser quality/trailer caps from the main page. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] ([[User talk:Warejaws|talk]]) 15:14, 28 November 2012 (EST)
[[Image:Expendables2-M2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:EX2M107Split.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy 'The Kid' Timmons fires his M107 from a concealed position.]]
[[Image:Exp2 302.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The henchman on the left carries the FN SCAR-L.]]
[[Image:Exp2 303.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the center, Barney uses the Diplomat as the Expendables open fire on a convoy.]]
[[Image:EX2JetLi2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Yin Yang ([[Jet Li]]) wields a Noveske Rifleworks Diplomat during the opening rescue mission.]]

Does anyone know what gun was placed on the bridge where the plane is blocked? (it's where Jason Statam, and Sylvester Stallone are arguing)

Talk:Top Gear

2012-12-31T04:23:00Z

Repoman: /* Missing Firearms */

This article should be deleted being that it is a documentary. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 22:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't say that. It's a British variety show that focuses on equal aspects entertainment and humor, but also factual information concerning the cars. If you've seen the show you'll know what I'm talking about, it really is the farthest thing from a documentary. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 22:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

:even then so it is a nonfictional item, so it falls out of the scope of IMFDB. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 17:01, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:: If that's the case, then all [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Category:Documentary these] pages need to be deleted as well. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 17:19, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
That is correct --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 17:31, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

== Top gear Ground Force ==

in Top gear Ground Force Jeremy uses an Over/Under shotgun for some light gardening

== TV Tropes ==

I was looking through the '''Imperial Storm Trooper Marksmanship Academy''' section and found this mentioned. ''"A Series 13 episode of Top Gear saw the British Armed Forces firing at a stationary Mitsubishi Evo 7 from only a few hundred yards away with machine guns, missing the majority of the time. The tracer rounds that went astray were enough to light parts of the surrounding area on fire." '' Is this a valid criticism? Or is that about all the accuracy you could expect form L7's and Browning M2's? [[User:Pravda616|Pravda616]] 16:59 22/2/11
: Here is the video of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAPRTAksr2w . When they are actually shooting at the stationary Evo, they seem to have pretty good accuracy, but the whole thing is staged, and I imagine that the majority of the tracers are added in post, particularly when it is being driven around the firing zone. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

== Newly added AK ==

[[Image:Tg_s17ep1_ak47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]

Based on the general look of it and that mold line along the top of the nearest gun's handguard: airsoft guns? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 05:20, 25 July 2011 (CDT)

== Interceptors ==
What about the firearms that appear in their mock 70's-detective show opening sequence titled "The Interceptors". They use, as far as I can tell, a Walther, a Luger, a Sten and a Colt Detective Special.
:: At one point a baddie is shown using a P38 as well, although it locks back after the first shot, but post editting showed it shooting again, ie muzzle flash, although this may have been somewhat deliberate as the whole sequence was spoofing 70's cop shows.

:: Jeremy or Jason Clarkson's "signature" weapon is a Walther P38, and James or James Steed's "signature" weapon is a Sten Sub Machine Gun, Richard or Roger St. Hammond's signature weapon was his hands, as hes a "karate master".

== Albania Special ==

During the Albania Special, the guys "rob" a bank, and come out with handguns. I have a capture from the episode and it seems to be a Tokarev TT-33, but im not entirely sure.

Considering where they were and what they were doing, i think its reasonable to assume its a Tokarev.

[http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/Hitokiri_Gensai/vlcsnap-2011-09-22-12h49m39s45.png Screen Cap from Episode 16x03]

the location of the rear sight and the shape of the trigger seem to suggest it.

==Jeremy shooting cars==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAiXRKQffQ0

Jeremy was seen firing an Over and Under Shotgun, a SPAS-12 shotgun, an unknown General Purpose machine gun and a Carl Gustav Recoiless Rifle.

:The GPMG is the L7 GPMG, the British version of the FN MAG. It is in the fire-support set up, mounted on a tripod and with the stock removed. Is this clip actually from Top Gear, or is it from one of Jeremy Clarkson's DVDs? [[User:Spanner|Spanner]]

== Missing Firearms ==

In the Car Biathlon, didn't James use a .22 slide action rifle (the one used in the Olympics) plus, Clarkson and May did seem to use a Remington Extended tube in the Polar Special, well May didn't use it but only bluff by cocking the shotgun. Yet, Clarkson did indeed however use it to destroy the Spam (food). Also, I have noticed in the East U.S Special, there was a Glock, I believe it's either a Glock 17 or a Glock 19, I know for sure it has to be a 9mm. but it hasn't been used. [[User:Repoman|Repoman]]

Talk:Top Gear

2012-09-30T18:25:27Z

Repoman: /* Missing Firearms */ new section

Rene Russo

2012-09-22T01:12:48Z

Repoman: /* Film */

'''Rene Russo has used the following firearms in the following films:'''

[[Image:LethalW3 395.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Rene Russo holds a Beretta 92FS as LAPD Sgt. Lorna Cole in ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]''.]]

===Film===

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!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Gun'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Title'''
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="50"|'''Note'''
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| [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92 FS|Beretta 92FS]] || Sergeant Lorna Cole || ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]'' |||| 1992
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| [[Ithaca 37]] || Sergeant Lorna Cole || ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]'' |||| 1992
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| [[Cobray M11/9]] || Sergeant Lorna Cole || ''[[Lethal Weapon 3]]'' |||| 1992
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| [[SIG-Sauer P228]] || USSS Agent Lilly Raines || ''[[In the Line of Fire]]'' || || 1993
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| [[M1911 pistol series#Colt Gold Cup National Match|Colt Gold Cup National Match]] || Karen Flores || ''[[Get Shorty]]'' || || 1995
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| [[Glock 17]] || Sergeant Lorna Cole || ''[[Lethal Weapon 4]]'' || || 1998
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| [[Beretta 92 pistol series#Beretta 92 FS|Beretta 92FS]] || Sergeant Lorna Cole || ''[[Lethal Weapon 4]]'' |||| 1998
[[Category:Actor]]
[[Category:Actor Female]]

User talk:Repoman

2012-09-22T01:10:19Z

Repoman: /* LW4 */

== Sign your posts. ==

When you post in a discussion page, please always sign your post. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 23:08, 19 July 2012 (CDT)

== LW4 ==

Took care of pic. FYI: The proper way to sign your post is to add the following at the end: <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 21:08, 21 September 2012 (EDT)
Thank you. --[[User:Repoman|Repoman]] ([[User talk:Repoman|talk]]) 21:08, 21 September 2012 (EDT)

User talk:Ben41

2012-09-22T01:05:53Z

Repoman: /* The Pic of Lethal Weapon 4 */ new section

'''''Earlier discussions: [[User Talk:Ben41/Archive 1]]'''''

== Series Templates ==

The short answer is that yes, you need to create a new one. The longer answer is that (in theory) you could use parsing functions to making templates that are all based off of one template so that the new templates would all look the same, but this restricts the format and would take hours and hours of coding. Each template is different (compare the [[Template:1911|1911 Template]] to the [[Template:Tom Clancy Series|Tom Clancy]] template). Now what we could and I think should do, is change the sub-categories to something like "Media Seires" and "Gun Series" (separating 1911 from Tom Clancy). At the end of the day tho, eventually there are going to be a lot of templates but if you concern is that there will be a lot to sift through, there is always an easier way to add the template. When you create a new template, you know what its called and you add it to the pages as you create it. If you are creating a new page and need to add it to the template, and the template to the page, just go to another page in the series. In other words, if you are adding "Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4" (no such thing... yet...), just go to the Modern Warfare 2 page and copy and paste the code from the bottom.

I've been spending a lot of time working on these templates and haven't really gotten any feedback from admins. It's also frustrating because there are a lot of things that I would like to do but can't since I'm not an admin. For example, I keep having to ask one of you guys to add a new template to the locked page... I'm not as much of a gun enthusiast as most of the people here, but I am a computer engineer with a lot of coding experience so I'm just trying to do my best to help out. I will kick around the idea of a generic template and try some different things but no promises... It will literally require hours of coding.

In the mean time, I would love to hear some feedback on the templates that I have already added. Are there other templates that you think could be useful? Throw ideas at me and I'll let you know what I think is doable. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 23:40, 17 June 2012 (CDT)

:Also, I BEG you... please read my request about redirects [http://forum.imfdb.org/showthread.php?t=2004 In the forum]... I cannot tell you how frustrating this is... --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 23:44, 17 June 2012 (CDT)
::Any thoughts? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 22:31, 18 June 2012 (CDT)
I did a little tidying up of the templates. Added some more subcategories. This should help to keep things from getting TOO cluttered. I'd really like to hear your thoughts. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:56, 21 June 2012 (CDT)
:You are correct, and that is the beauty of using templates. Make the change in ONE place, it automatically changes everywhere else. :-) I SWEAR when I made the Pink Panther template, Pink Panther 3 was listed on IMDB and its not now... Maybe I saw it on Wikipedia?? Either way, I will fix it and I think you are right. Let's wait until a trailer has been released before adding it to the templates. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 19:50, 21 June 2012 (CDT)

== "The Killing" screenshots ==

You suggested to upload whole frame screenshots instead of capturing only weapons- well, due to heavy spoilers I may try to do it, but will have to warn other users who do not enjoy spoilers, is it better?

If I'll somehow get the HD quality images I'll change current ones to such, although I think the handgun is seen clear enough to identify it :)

== GRAW2 ==

Why can not I finish the PC version? --[[User:Mateogala|MTOOO]] 05:47, 20 June 2012 (CDT)

== Template:Wrong Turn Series ==

Can you do me a favor and rollback [[User talk:Van tu|Van Tu's]] edits to [[Template:Wrong Turn Series]]? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 09:32, 22 June 2012 (CDT)
:So the guy removed the freaking template from his "pages" and screwed up the format... GRRRRR. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 09:38, 22 June 2012 (CDT)
::I went ahead and restored the original version, but take a look at what he did... --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 12:38, 22 June 2012 (CDT)
I agree. I'm less concerned with the template and more concerned with the fact that he removed it but yea... --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 22:29, 22 June 2012 (CDT)

== Van tu ==

So our good buddy [[User talk:Van tu|Van Tu]] has created himself a second account and recreated the [[My Way (2011)]] page that you deleted. I know I'm not an admin and I don't want to over step but i think this guy needs to get the boot. He's violating rule after rule and has yet to respond to anyone's requests. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 11:28, 23 June 2012 (CDT)
:I think he's created account number 3 now. I have a feeling "Leavemealone" is the same guy. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 14:18, 24 June 2012 (CDT)
::Yes, it's he. The same ''modus operandi''. :) And this is number four: 18:52, 24 June 2012 Leavemealone (Talk | contribs) created new account User:Come with me (Talk | contribs). [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 14:40, 24 June 2012 (CDT)

== Well... Damn ==

Oh well I guess I'll have to find another series that is acceptable on the site. Oh and since the page was nuked can you please delete the photos I took for it? Thanks [[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] 00:43, 26 June 2012 (CDT)

== Request for deletion ==

Please delete several files that I uploaded in past but now they are not used: File:Blastfighter-Revolver-4.jpg, File:Blastfighter-Revolver-6.jpg, File:Blastfighter-SPAS12-1.jpg, File:Blastfighter-SPAS12-11.jpg, File:Blastfighter-SPAS12-4.jpg, File:Blastfighter-SPAS12-9.jpg, File:Commando_Leopard-Rifle-2.jpg, File:The_Adventures_of_Sherlock_Holmes_and_Dr._Watson_-_Watson_revolver_-_placeholder.jpg. They all are in Delete category. Thanks in advance! [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 01:11, 26 June 2012 (CDT)

== thanks ==

Many thanks! :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 09:14, 27 June 2012 (CDT)
:Also, sorry for deleting [[24: The Game]]. It truly seemed like it was not up to par. Looks like it's getting some work done on it tho. :-) Seems like sometimes when a page gets deleted people go "oh wait, I want to do that!" --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 09:54, 27 June 2012 (CDT)

== Advice ==

So since I am new to being an admin, I wanted to get your opinion on something. I recently deleted the page for [[Next of Kin]] because it was woefully lacking. Hours later, the one guy who had contributed to it in the first place, recreated the page with the exact same info... How do you guys normally handle this? If the user had a lot of contributions I would feel very different, but he doesn't... This is his only page. Thoughts? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 13:18, 27 June 2012 (CDT)

== next of kin ==

i got next of kin on DVD. i can snapshot some of the guns. i need the names of the guns that was used in Next of Kin. --[[User:Boo2795|Boo2795]] 12:16, 29 June 2012 (CDT)

== A Rumor of War ==

Hey man. Whats the story with your [[A Rumor of War]] page?? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 09:07, 3 July 2012 (CDT)
:For the record, that's exactly what I did... Had the page be some guy with nothing on his user page and a half dozen random contributions, I would have deleted it. Since its yours, I aint touching it. I know I nuked it 2 months ago but that was before I was an admin. As an admin I WILL NOT delete another admin's page without getting their okay first. Mainly I just wanted to make sure you hadn't forgotten about it. I now know you haven't so I will leave it be. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 20:38, 3 July 2012 (CDT)

== Upcoming tag ==

Doesn't the "Upcoming" tag refer to any movie that out in theaters and not available on home video? According to the rules, we can't post screencaps of anything other than what's in trailers or teasers until the US video release date, so it explains to users why the caps aren't there. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 01:10, 15 July 2012 (CDT)
:As I said above, I thought it remained in affect until home video release. Theoretically, every page is considered incomplete until it get screencaps from the official home video release, so the upcoming tag provides an excuse as to why those caps aren't there. And since we can't use caps from illegal sources like screeners and bootlegs, for the purposes of completing a page, the home video release date is pretty much the only one that counts. The tag also is a disclaimer, covering our asses and reminding everyone that "Any screenshots used are from official Trailers and sources" and not bootlegs. (BTW, we should probably make the T in Trailer lowercase.) I would think for a featured page like ''The Avengers'', this is especially important. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 01:29, 15 July 2012 (CDT)
::True, but we can always change the name. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 01:38, 15 July 2012 (CDT)

==Marked for Death==

[[Keith David]] used a Benelli M3 Super 90 during the confrontation with the Jamaicans leading to the car chase and shootout at the mall. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 13:21, 16 July 2012 (CDT)

== Screenshot Tempalte ==

Good call on the <nowiki>{{SS}}</nowiki> template. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 15:46, 16 July 2012 (CDT)

== Automatic Message ==

It's a work in progress and something I'm working on with Chris. The truth is the page doesn't HAVE to be deleted but I get what you are saying. I'll keep it in mind. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:23, 23 July 2012 (CDT)

== New Registration ==

HAHAHAHA! You legit made me LOL! Sorry about that. I will correct it right now. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 20:03, 23 July 2012 (CDT)

== Re:Page Templates ==

Thanks, I'll use these new templates. Сoncerning actors pages: I still think that it's better to put the year of birth (maybe not birthday date) at the page. We can see how old was the actor when he/she appeared in some movie. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 02:37, 25 July 2012 (CDT)

== Templates ==

Honestly I wasnt planning on it but they are SUPER helpful. One thing that would be great is if you could add them to the "[[:Category:Category Templates]]". I tried to organize all the [[:Category: Templates|Templates]] into different categories so that they are easier to navigate. I think it was you who suggested this actually... Can't remember. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 09:15, 25 July 2012 (CDT)

==Thanks!==
Thank you. And what irony, I can finally zap spammers on my own, only to find no spammers. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 18:53, 25 July 2012 (CDT)

==Question==
Why were reality TV shows banned? While I understand that some shows do not warrant a page there are some reality shows out there that have many weapons in it.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] 23:44, 28 July 2012 (CDT)

==Law & Order==
Yes, I had noticed that it was getting a little large. I'm just a bit worried that if we do it by season, the season pages will be a bit light. On the other hand, it'll at least allow us to get it out of the incomplete queue. (Netflix has eight seasons on Instant, and even if we did it by disk, Netflix only as seasons 1-10, 14.) I'll try out a split of season 1. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 20:19, 6 August 2012 (CDT)

== Screenshot template ==

The screenshot template has been modified so you can add the name of a work to it automatically; the format is <nowiki>{{Screenshot|Name}}</nowiki>. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 00:44, 8 August 2012 (CDT)

== Making Pages ==

OK, thanks for the advice. --[[User:Flinx|Flinx]] 18:58, 14 August 2012 (CDT)

== Spam ==

So spam has dramatically decreased lately as a result of the new system put in place by [[Bunni]] but we still have the occasional jerk who gets through. For future reference, if anyone does start doing stuff like our pal [[user:Weston1911|Weston1911]] did, will you message me? I am compiling a "blacklist" that includes the e-mail and IP the user used when they registered. It will help prevent them from registering in the future. Thanks man! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:34, 17 August 2012 (CDT)

== Weston1911 ==

Well, he remembered that "Jamal pick my cotton" thing that Liam did back when Excalibur got rid of the page for either Killzone or Halo (I forget which), so yeah, it's him. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:41, 18 August 2012 (CDT)

== Thanks ==

I think this is where you intended my response. Thank you for explaining the ropes to me. I'll make sure I follow that. Feel free to revert my edit on [[Southland]] if it is in violation. [[User:Glock172|Glock172]] 18:10, 23 August 2012 (CDT)

== RE: Friday The 13th Series ==
No problem but but can the separation wait until Im done with the Jason Goes To Hell section? Thanks.[[User:Mr.Ice|Mr.Ice]] 13:04, 27 August 2012 (CDT)

:Ben, we're discussing this issue on the forums at present (as to whether it's necessary to split a page for a series with only a small number of guns per individual movie), could you check in on that thread? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 19:56, 27 August 2012 (CDT)

== Images ==

I saw your note in the forum. We are having a few issues with the server at the moment, but we are aware of the issue. I will get back to you when I have an answer. Currently, I have absolutely no clue how to delete the images though... Thats the only reason I hadn't responded to you already. Sorry bud. :-/ --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 07:37, 4 September 2012 (CDT)

== Quick ==

This is a simple literal translation of Czech wording through Google translator:)--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 18:11, 20 September 2012 (EDT)
So I translated the sentence again entered into the compiler and this fell out of it : "Yes, please try putting my sentences to the translator to give better translation." :)--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 18:21, 20 September 2012 (EDT)
Only I add that in Czech it does not make much sense. Otherwise, there is nothing strange in this country we say when the killer murders, so "works". It operates with a gun. This is the same as in the English word "uses".--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 18:25, 20 September 2012 (EDT) It does not make sense. The point is that there is the word "targeting" - Czech rather expressed by "AIMS", but in English appears to be "point". In short, there has to be that Teri Polo pointing a gun at Tia Carrere and Tia is bodyguard of Mr. Brewer. :)--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 05:49, 21 September 2012 (EDT)

== The Pic of Lethal Weapon 4 ==

Is it alright for me to put this pic on the page? [[User:Repoman|Repoman]]
[[File:LW4 1002.jpg|thumb|none|780px]]

Talk:Lethal Weapon 4

2012-09-22T01:02:06Z

Repoman: /* Unknown Handgun */

That poster in the police office is insulting and stupid, as it says "All CIVILIAN assault weapons should be banned", and then shows four civilian guns that are considered "assault weapons". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Yes, take those out. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

==Type 56-1==
Note: Not an AK-47 as originally thought, not with the folding stock, and considering the fact that the sight was most likely hooded, it must be a Type 56-1.

:I don't think it's a Type 56. The Type 56-2 (which is the version with the side-folding stock) has a different stock design than that. The Type 56 also retains the smooth receiver cover of the older AK-47 models (as opposed to the strengthened ribbed design of the AKM), but that rifle looks like it might have a ribbed one. East German MPiKMs ''do'' have stocks that look like that and ribbed receiver covers, so I'm guessing it might be one of those. I would need to see the front sight, as well as the receiver, in better detail to figure out whether it's a Type 56.

::It's either an East German or Romanian side folding stock. It has to be an AKM, not a Type 56, because the side folding stocks don't fit on the Chinese receivers. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

[[Image:Type56S.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1]]
[[Image:Type56-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-2 (side-folding stock variant) - 7.62x39mm]]

==AKM==
:This one is a Type 56 with the "pig sticker" removed (though the front sight still has the mount for it). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::Are you sure? I thought it was an AKM because of the slanted muzzle. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:59, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

:::Plenty of Chinese Type 56s have slant muzzle breaks. Look at the picture on my user page and you can see that my own Chinese AK has one. If it has the wider .75" front sight, it's a Type 56. Also, the mounting for the pig sticker beneath the front sight is unique to the Type 56. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== AWB Poster ==
[[Image:LWAWB.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Uzi|Uzi Carbine]], [[Micro Uzi|Uzi Pistol]], [[Heckler & Koch HK94]], and an [[Heckler & Koch SP89]] are all on the poster.]]
::^BOO! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Haha lol agreed! Even though they are cops and have to deal with getting shot at every day. But still: 16 inch barrels and 15 round magazines? Come on. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 06:25, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

::::Reminds me of a poster I saw in ''[[16 Blocks]]'' showing an infant handling an M1911A1 and spouting some anti-gun statistics about the rate of children getting killed from playing with guns. I decided to exclude it from the article due to the controversy the AWB poster in this film has created. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 14:47, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, you can see that poster right next to the AWB poster in that screenshot. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 14:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I wish someone would say to them "I don't know if you know this, but there is this really cool thing called the Second Amendment!" -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::A little fun fact, despite the posters claim that "A Child a day is killed by a handgun" and other bullshit claims of the period that stated 10 children a day die from all forms a gun violence, FBI records state that less than 100 kids die from gun violence each year. A sad number yet still far below that claimed by the anti-gun groups. Apparently the gun control movement is fond of large numbers of dead children so long as it serves their goal. By the way, thank you to whoever pulled this off of the main article. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
::::::::Those AWB posters appear in all of Richard Donner's films. I guess since he makes films with lots of gun violence, those posters will make it all better. - [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The other thing you'll see in Donner's films are posters about how evil wearing fur is. He used to have posters attacking South Africa and apartheid until the goverment got rid of that policy and freed Mandella. Then those posters went away. Donner is an idiot. Or perhaps the posters are more the idea of his wife Laura. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:48, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::If I'm not mistaken, in Lethal Weapon 1, the Murtaugh's have an "end Apartheid" magnet on their refrigerator [[Special:Contributions/65.29.239.251|65.29.239.251]] 08:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::In the film ''[[Assassins]]'' an anti-NRA poster is seen several times on the side of a bus and a woman wearing a fur coat has a red circle with a line through it painted on the back. Donner is really not very subtle. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:No Donner isn't very subtle. On the LW4 dvd commentary, he says he puts those in his films to "put the message out". He also said he couldn't understand why he would get complaints from real police officers about the ban NRA posters. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:22, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::How the hell could someone make a Lethal Weapon movie while being anti-gun? The movie contradicts the AWB message. That's just silly. In a bad way.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:29, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

:::Wow, a director who sticks anti-gun posters in a movie full of shootouts and weaponry? What next, anti-car posters on an episode of Top Gear? [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
::::Or maybe a Michael Bay film without explosions? - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 21:45, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::In the commentary he said that he hated the NRA because they became political. His displeasure was due to the NRA opposing the outlawing of armor piercing ammo. However, my understanding was that the NRA opposed a poorly written law and helped write the one in place, and Donner is just an idiot who doesn't check stuff before making accusations.--[[User:Gtcsmc|Gtcsmc]] 04:50, 21 December 2011 (CST)
::::Here's a link to the NRA's explanation. [http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=25&issue=005]

I remember watching something with Danny Glover stating that the "end Apartheid" sticker on his fridge in LL1 was his idea, not a bad idea considering how broad the audience is [[Special:Contributions/174.54.108.189|174.54.108.189]] 23:56, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

== Beretta 92FS ==

I figured Martin Riggs got another Beretta 92FS for the final battle,
because he doesn't use the Laser Sight after his gun was dis-assembled.

But, I suppose it's possible to simply put the gun back together again,
Although, I doubt the gun was recovered after the House burnt down.

==AKMS==
'''[moved from main]'''--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:29, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

:This is definitely either an East German MPi-KMS, or another AKM variant fitted with the East German-style folding stock. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::Is shooting the AKMS underwater impossible? -Sdawg44
:::Well since they actually did it in the movie, I'm assuming it is. After soaking under water so long, the powder in the bullets would be too damp to fire, so they must have submerged immediately before firing the gun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Ammunition is fairly waterproof so the powder would be safe for a while. Any gun will fire once underwater but its unclear if it would fire full auto as is depicted in this movie. -[[User:sigger9mm|sigger9mm]]
:::: There is few videos of guns firing semi and full auto underwater. Although there is no AKMS among them, i found a hk416, glock, and Sphinx pistol shooting and reloading just fine. And there is a two guns constructed especially to shooting underwater based on AK, so i thin it is very possible with Ak reliability. Ripp

== Laser Grips ==

So I was just looking through a catalog of CTC laser grips, and I noticed that the laser activation button is attached to the CTC grips, specifically on the front of the butt, meaning that it seems like the only way the laser could activate is if the gun was fitted with the CTC grips, not just the activation button. So how could Riggs be using these laser grips when it is clear that his Beretta has the standard Beretta grips on them? I mean, when you look at the shot of his Beretta on the ground in Murtaugh's house, you can see the laser is attached to the grips, but you also see that it has the standard Beretta grips in the shot where Jet Li takes his gun apart. Does anyone know how this could've worked? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 00:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:Could it have been a Lasermax laser sight? The laser comes out of the same spot as it did in the movie but the activation switch is on the takedown lever therefore allowing Riggs to keep the normal grips.--[[Special:Contributions/129.89.187.78|129.89.187.78]] 21:33, 1 March 2010 (UTC) (thePotShot)

Definitely Lasermax laser device. The sight is definitely fixed under the barrel replacing the recoil guide rod. Not CTC laser grips. The light on CTC grips originate from the grips. Unless my catalog is completely wrong?
[[Image:LW92floor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
In the image above it looks the the laser is on the grips. Note the bulge on the top of the grip. But I thought CTC grips wrapped complety around the front of the frame? So maybe it's some different maker or early model. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

==Riggs' Beretta==
In the picture of the Riggs' Beretta 92FS is written that it's the same gun used in [[Die Hard 2]] and [[Die Hard with a Vengeance]], but this can't be true, because the Beretta Bruce Willis used in Die Hard was lefthanded, this one is a common righthanded. Here's the original Beretta used by Willis; http://www.originalprop.com/blog/movie-guns/die-hard/. [[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]]--[[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]] 14:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:The mag release can be swapped back to right handed and there is more than one gun used. (www.originalprop.com states that the one shown is one of four used) Here is a discussion about the DH and LW Berettas. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Talk:Beretta_92_pistol_series#Die_Hard_and_Lethal_Weapon --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Interesting, I didn't read about that. --[[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]] 19:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Firing under water? ==

Can an AK be fire under water like in the movie? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

:I just asked this very question on the Mythbusters forum. Guess we'll find out one way or another. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

::I'm no expert but I think it's like this. Firing is the easy part, cycling though, that might be a problem, but the largest problem is the density of water. Seeing as how water is (I think) 1000 times more dense than air, the bullet would only be lethal for a short distance, shorter than 5 feet(or was it yards?).--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 07:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

No problems in that scene then as the muzzle is jammed right in Jet Li's gut. I'd like to see the Mythbusters tackle some of the stories on the reliability of the AK, specifically one I heard about a Green Beret being able to chamber and fire a round without cleaning an AK that had been under a decomposing VC body in Vietnam. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 06:16, 7 April 2011 (CDT)

== Unknown Handgun ==

What was the Handgun that Lorna Cole (Rene Russo) fired during the Train scene? Help?
[[User:Repoman|Repoman]]

: Looks like a Beretta. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 20:26, 21 September 2012 (EDT)
[[File:LW4 1002.jpg|thumb|none|780px]]
Thanks Ben41. I really got the clue now. [[User:Repoman|Repoman]]

Talk:Lethal Weapon 4

2012-09-22T01:01:35Z

Repoman: /* Unknown Handgun */

That poster in the police office is insulting and stupid, as it says "All CIVILIAN assault weapons should be banned", and then shows four civilian guns that are considered "assault weapons". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Yes, take those out. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

==Type 56-1==
Note: Not an AK-47 as originally thought, not with the folding stock, and considering the fact that the sight was most likely hooded, it must be a Type 56-1.

:I don't think it's a Type 56. The Type 56-2 (which is the version with the side-folding stock) has a different stock design than that. The Type 56 also retains the smooth receiver cover of the older AK-47 models (as opposed to the strengthened ribbed design of the AKM), but that rifle looks like it might have a ribbed one. East German MPiKMs ''do'' have stocks that look like that and ribbed receiver covers, so I'm guessing it might be one of those. I would need to see the front sight, as well as the receiver, in better detail to figure out whether it's a Type 56.

::It's either an East German or Romanian side folding stock. It has to be an AKM, not a Type 56, because the side folding stocks don't fit on the Chinese receivers. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

[[Image:Type56S.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1]]
[[Image:Type56-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-2 (side-folding stock variant) - 7.62x39mm]]

==AKM==
:This one is a Type 56 with the "pig sticker" removed (though the front sight still has the mount for it). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::Are you sure? I thought it was an AKM because of the slanted muzzle. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:59, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

:::Plenty of Chinese Type 56s have slant muzzle breaks. Look at the picture on my user page and you can see that my own Chinese AK has one. If it has the wider .75" front sight, it's a Type 56. Also, the mounting for the pig sticker beneath the front sight is unique to the Type 56. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== AWB Poster ==
[[Image:LWAWB.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Uzi|Uzi Carbine]], [[Micro Uzi|Uzi Pistol]], [[Heckler & Koch HK94]], and an [[Heckler & Koch SP89]] are all on the poster.]]
::^BOO! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Haha lol agreed! Even though they are cops and have to deal with getting shot at every day. But still: 16 inch barrels and 15 round magazines? Come on. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 06:25, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

::::Reminds me of a poster I saw in ''[[16 Blocks]]'' showing an infant handling an M1911A1 and spouting some anti-gun statistics about the rate of children getting killed from playing with guns. I decided to exclude it from the article due to the controversy the AWB poster in this film has created. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 14:47, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, you can see that poster right next to the AWB poster in that screenshot. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 14:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I wish someone would say to them "I don't know if you know this, but there is this really cool thing called the Second Amendment!" -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::A little fun fact, despite the posters claim that "A Child a day is killed by a handgun" and other bullshit claims of the period that stated 10 children a day die from all forms a gun violence, FBI records state that less than 100 kids die from gun violence each year. A sad number yet still far below that claimed by the anti-gun groups. Apparently the gun control movement is fond of large numbers of dead children so long as it serves their goal. By the way, thank you to whoever pulled this off of the main article. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
::::::::Those AWB posters appear in all of Richard Donner's films. I guess since he makes films with lots of gun violence, those posters will make it all better. - [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The other thing you'll see in Donner's films are posters about how evil wearing fur is. He used to have posters attacking South Africa and apartheid until the goverment got rid of that policy and freed Mandella. Then those posters went away. Donner is an idiot. Or perhaps the posters are more the idea of his wife Laura. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:48, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::If I'm not mistaken, in Lethal Weapon 1, the Murtaugh's have an "end Apartheid" magnet on their refrigerator [[Special:Contributions/65.29.239.251|65.29.239.251]] 08:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::In the film ''[[Assassins]]'' an anti-NRA poster is seen several times on the side of a bus and a woman wearing a fur coat has a red circle with a line through it painted on the back. Donner is really not very subtle. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:No Donner isn't very subtle. On the LW4 dvd commentary, he says he puts those in his films to "put the message out". He also said he couldn't understand why he would get complaints from real police officers about the ban NRA posters. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:22, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::How the hell could someone make a Lethal Weapon movie while being anti-gun? The movie contradicts the AWB message. That's just silly. In a bad way.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:29, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

:::Wow, a director who sticks anti-gun posters in a movie full of shootouts and weaponry? What next, anti-car posters on an episode of Top Gear? [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
::::Or maybe a Michael Bay film without explosions? - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 21:45, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::In the commentary he said that he hated the NRA because they became political. His displeasure was due to the NRA opposing the outlawing of armor piercing ammo. However, my understanding was that the NRA opposed a poorly written law and helped write the one in place, and Donner is just an idiot who doesn't check stuff before making accusations.--[[User:Gtcsmc|Gtcsmc]] 04:50, 21 December 2011 (CST)
::::Here's a link to the NRA's explanation. [http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=25&issue=005]

I remember watching something with Danny Glover stating that the "end Apartheid" sticker on his fridge in LL1 was his idea, not a bad idea considering how broad the audience is [[Special:Contributions/174.54.108.189|174.54.108.189]] 23:56, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

== Beretta 92FS ==

I figured Martin Riggs got another Beretta 92FS for the final battle,
because he doesn't use the Laser Sight after his gun was dis-assembled.

But, I suppose it's possible to simply put the gun back together again,
Although, I doubt the gun was recovered after the House burnt down.

==AKMS==
'''[moved from main]'''--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:29, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

:This is definitely either an East German MPi-KMS, or another AKM variant fitted with the East German-style folding stock. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::Is shooting the AKMS underwater impossible? -Sdawg44
:::Well since they actually did it in the movie, I'm assuming it is. After soaking under water so long, the powder in the bullets would be too damp to fire, so they must have submerged immediately before firing the gun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Ammunition is fairly waterproof so the powder would be safe for a while. Any gun will fire once underwater but its unclear if it would fire full auto as is depicted in this movie. -[[User:sigger9mm|sigger9mm]]
:::: There is few videos of guns firing semi and full auto underwater. Although there is no AKMS among them, i found a hk416, glock, and Sphinx pistol shooting and reloading just fine. And there is a two guns constructed especially to shooting underwater based on AK, so i thin it is very possible with Ak reliability. Ripp

== Laser Grips ==

So I was just looking through a catalog of CTC laser grips, and I noticed that the laser activation button is attached to the CTC grips, specifically on the front of the butt, meaning that it seems like the only way the laser could activate is if the gun was fitted with the CTC grips, not just the activation button. So how could Riggs be using these laser grips when it is clear that his Beretta has the standard Beretta grips on them? I mean, when you look at the shot of his Beretta on the ground in Murtaugh's house, you can see the laser is attached to the grips, but you also see that it has the standard Beretta grips in the shot where Jet Li takes his gun apart. Does anyone know how this could've worked? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 00:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:Could it have been a Lasermax laser sight? The laser comes out of the same spot as it did in the movie but the activation switch is on the takedown lever therefore allowing Riggs to keep the normal grips.--[[Special:Contributions/129.89.187.78|129.89.187.78]] 21:33, 1 March 2010 (UTC) (thePotShot)

Definitely Lasermax laser device. The sight is definitely fixed under the barrel replacing the recoil guide rod. Not CTC laser grips. The light on CTC grips originate from the grips. Unless my catalog is completely wrong?
[[Image:LW92floor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
In the image above it looks the the laser is on the grips. Note the bulge on the top of the grip. But I thought CTC grips wrapped complety around the front of the frame? So maybe it's some different maker or early model. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

==Riggs' Beretta==
In the picture of the Riggs' Beretta 92FS is written that it's the same gun used in [[Die Hard 2]] and [[Die Hard with a Vengeance]], but this can't be true, because the Beretta Bruce Willis used in Die Hard was lefthanded, this one is a common righthanded. Here's the original Beretta used by Willis; http://www.originalprop.com/blog/movie-guns/die-hard/. [[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]]--[[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]] 14:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:The mag release can be swapped back to right handed and there is more than one gun used. (www.originalprop.com states that the one shown is one of four used) Here is a discussion about the DH and LW Berettas. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Talk:Beretta_92_pistol_series#Die_Hard_and_Lethal_Weapon --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Interesting, I didn't read about that. --[[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]] 19:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Firing under water? ==

Can an AK be fire under water like in the movie? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

:I just asked this very question on the Mythbusters forum. Guess we'll find out one way or another. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

::I'm no expert but I think it's like this. Firing is the easy part, cycling though, that might be a problem, but the largest problem is the density of water. Seeing as how water is (I think) 1000 times more dense than air, the bullet would only be lethal for a short distance, shorter than 5 feet(or was it yards?).--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 07:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

No problems in that scene then as the muzzle is jammed right in Jet Li's gut. I'd like to see the Mythbusters tackle some of the stories on the reliability of the AK, specifically one I heard about a Green Beret being able to chamber and fire a round without cleaning an AK that had been under a decomposing VC body in Vietnam. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 06:16, 7 April 2011 (CDT)

== Unknown Handgun ==

What was the Handgun that Lorna Cole (Rene Russo) fired during the Train scene? Help?
[[User:Repoman|Repoman]]
Thanks Ben41. I really got the clue now. [[User:Repoman|Repoman]]
: Looks like a Beretta. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 20:26, 21 September 2012 (EDT)
[[File:LW4 1002.jpg|thumb|none|780px]]

Talk:Lethal Weapon 4

2012-09-21T23:05:26Z

Repoman: /* Unknown Handgun */

Talk:Lethal Weapon 4

2012-09-21T06:30:55Z

Repoman: /* Unknown Handgun */

That poster in the police office is insulting and stupid, as it says "All CIVILIAN assault weapons should be banned", and then shows four civilian guns that are considered "assault weapons". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Yes, take those out. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

==Type 56-1==
Note: Not an AK-47 as originally thought, not with the folding stock, and considering the fact that the sight was most likely hooded, it must be a Type 56-1.

:I don't think it's a Type 56. The Type 56-2 (which is the version with the side-folding stock) has a different stock design than that. The Type 56 also retains the smooth receiver cover of the older AK-47 models (as opposed to the strengthened ribbed design of the AKM), but that rifle looks like it might have a ribbed one. East German MPiKMs ''do'' have stocks that look like that and ribbed receiver covers, so I'm guessing it might be one of those. I would need to see the front sight, as well as the receiver, in better detail to figure out whether it's a Type 56.

::It's either an East German or Romanian side folding stock. It has to be an AKM, not a Type 56, because the side folding stocks don't fit on the Chinese receivers. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

[[Image:Type56S.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1]]
[[Image:Type56-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-2 (side-folding stock variant) - 7.62x39mm]]

==AKM==
:This one is a Type 56 with the "pig sticker" removed (though the front sight still has the mount for it). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::Are you sure? I thought it was an AKM because of the slanted muzzle. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:59, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

:::Plenty of Chinese Type 56s have slant muzzle breaks. Look at the picture on my user page and you can see that my own Chinese AK has one. If it has the wider .75" front sight, it's a Type 56. Also, the mounting for the pig sticker beneath the front sight is unique to the Type 56. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== AWB Poster ==
[[Image:LWAWB.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Uzi|Uzi Carbine]], [[Micro Uzi|Uzi Pistol]], [[Heckler & Koch HK94]], and an [[Heckler & Koch SP89]] are all on the poster.]]
::^BOO! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Haha lol agreed! Even though they are cops and have to deal with getting shot at every day. But still: 16 inch barrels and 15 round magazines? Come on. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 06:25, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

::::Reminds me of a poster I saw in ''[[16 Blocks]]'' showing an infant handling an M1911A1 and spouting some anti-gun statistics about the rate of children getting killed from playing with guns. I decided to exclude it from the article due to the controversy the AWB poster in this film has created. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 14:47, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, you can see that poster right next to the AWB poster in that screenshot. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 14:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I wish someone would say to them "I don't know if you know this, but there is this really cool thing called the Second Amendment!" -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::A little fun fact, despite the posters claim that "A Child a day is killed by a handgun" and other bullshit claims of the period that stated 10 children a day die from all forms a gun violence, FBI records state that less than 100 kids die from gun violence each year. A sad number yet still far below that claimed by the anti-gun groups. Apparently the gun control movement is fond of large numbers of dead children so long as it serves their goal. By the way, thank you to whoever pulled this off of the main article. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
::::::::Those AWB posters appear in all of Richard Donner's films. I guess since he makes films with lots of gun violence, those posters will make it all better. - [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The other thing you'll see in Donner's films are posters about how evil wearing fur is. He used to have posters attacking South Africa and apartheid until the goverment got rid of that policy and freed Mandella. Then those posters went away. Donner is an idiot. Or perhaps the posters are more the idea of his wife Laura. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:48, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::If I'm not mistaken, in Lethal Weapon 1, the Murtaugh's have an "end Apartheid" magnet on their refrigerator [[Special:Contributions/65.29.239.251|65.29.239.251]] 08:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::In the film ''[[Assassins]]'' an anti-NRA poster is seen several times on the side of a bus and a woman wearing a fur coat has a red circle with a line through it painted on the back. Donner is really not very subtle. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:No Donner isn't very subtle. On the LW4 dvd commentary, he says he puts those in his films to "put the message out". He also said he couldn't understand why he would get complaints from real police officers about the ban NRA posters. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:22, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::How the hell could someone make a Lethal Weapon movie while being anti-gun? The movie contradicts the AWB message. That's just silly. In a bad way.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:29, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

:::Wow, a director who sticks anti-gun posters in a movie full of shootouts and weaponry? What next, anti-car posters on an episode of Top Gear? [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
::::Or maybe a Michael Bay film without explosions? - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 21:45, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::In the commentary he said that he hated the NRA because they became political. His displeasure was due to the NRA opposing the outlawing of armor piercing ammo. However, my understanding was that the NRA opposed a poorly written law and helped write the one in place, and Donner is just an idiot who doesn't check stuff before making accusations.--[[User:Gtcsmc|Gtcsmc]] 04:50, 21 December 2011 (CST)
::::Here's a link to the NRA's explanation. [http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=25&issue=005]

I remember watching something with Danny Glover stating that the "end Apartheid" sticker on his fridge in LL1 was his idea, not a bad idea considering how broad the audience is [[Special:Contributions/174.54.108.189|174.54.108.189]] 23:56, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

== Beretta 92FS ==

I figured Martin Riggs got another Beretta 92FS for the final battle,
because he doesn't use the Laser Sight after his gun was dis-assembled.

But, I suppose it's possible to simply put the gun back together again,
Although, I doubt the gun was recovered after the House burnt down.

==AKMS==
'''[moved from main]'''--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:29, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

:This is definitely either an East German MPi-KMS, or another AKM variant fitted with the East German-style folding stock. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::Is shooting the AKMS underwater impossible? -Sdawg44
:::Well since they actually did it in the movie, I'm assuming it is. After soaking under water so long, the powder in the bullets would be too damp to fire, so they must have submerged immediately before firing the gun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Ammunition is fairly waterproof so the powder would be safe for a while. Any gun will fire once underwater but its unclear if it would fire full auto as is depicted in this movie. -[[User:sigger9mm|sigger9mm]]
:::: There is few videos of guns firing semi and full auto underwater. Although there is no AKMS among them, i found a hk416, glock, and Sphinx pistol shooting and reloading just fine. And there is a two guns constructed especially to shooting underwater based on AK, so i thin it is very possible with Ak reliability. Ripp

== Laser Grips ==

So I was just looking through a catalog of CTC laser grips, and I noticed that the laser activation button is attached to the CTC grips, specifically on the front of the butt, meaning that it seems like the only way the laser could activate is if the gun was fitted with the CTC grips, not just the activation button. So how could Riggs be using these laser grips when it is clear that his Beretta has the standard Beretta grips on them? I mean, when you look at the shot of his Beretta on the ground in Murtaugh's house, you can see the laser is attached to the grips, but you also see that it has the standard Beretta grips in the shot where Jet Li takes his gun apart. Does anyone know how this could've worked? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 00:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:Could it have been a Lasermax laser sight? The laser comes out of the same spot as it did in the movie but the activation switch is on the takedown lever therefore allowing Riggs to keep the normal grips.--[[Special:Contributions/129.89.187.78|129.89.187.78]] 21:33, 1 March 2010 (UTC) (thePotShot)

Definitely Lasermax laser device. The sight is definitely fixed under the barrel replacing the recoil guide rod. Not CTC laser grips. The light on CTC grips originate from the grips. Unless my catalog is completely wrong?
[[Image:LW92floor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
In the image above it looks the the laser is on the grips. Note the bulge on the top of the grip. But I thought CTC grips wrapped complety around the front of the frame? So maybe it's some different maker or early model. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

==Riggs' Beretta==
In the picture of the Riggs' Beretta 92FS is written that it's the same gun used in [[Die Hard 2]] and [[Die Hard with a Vengeance]], but this can't be true, because the Beretta Bruce Willis used in Die Hard was lefthanded, this one is a common righthanded. Here's the original Beretta used by Willis; http://www.originalprop.com/blog/movie-guns/die-hard/. [[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]]--[[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]] 14:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:The mag release can be swapped back to right handed and there is more than one gun used. (www.originalprop.com states that the one shown is one of four used) Here is a discussion about the DH and LW Berettas. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Talk:Beretta_92_pistol_series#Die_Hard_and_Lethal_Weapon --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Interesting, I didn't read about that. --[[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]] 19:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Firing under water? ==

Can an AK be fire under water like in the movie? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

:I just asked this very question on the Mythbusters forum. Guess we'll find out one way or another. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

::I'm no expert but I think it's like this. Firing is the easy part, cycling though, that might be a problem, but the largest problem is the density of water. Seeing as how water is (I think) 1000 times more dense than air, the bullet would only be lethal for a short distance, shorter than 5 feet(or was it yards?).--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 07:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

No problems in that scene then as the muzzle is jammed right in Jet Li's gut. I'd like to see the Mythbusters tackle some of the stories on the reliability of the AK, specifically one I heard about a Green Beret being able to chamber and fire a round without cleaning an AK that had been under a decomposing VC body in Vietnam. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 06:16, 7 April 2011 (CDT)

== Unknown Handgun ==

What was the Handgun that Lorna Cole (Rene Russo) fired during the Train scene?
in my view I believe that it isn't a Beretta.
Help?
[[User:Repoman|Repoman]]

Talk:Lethal Weapon 4

2012-09-21T06:29:01Z

Repoman: /* Unknown Handgun */

That poster in the police office is insulting and stupid, as it says "All CIVILIAN assault weapons should be banned", and then shows four civilian guns that are considered "assault weapons". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Yes, take those out. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

==Type 56-1==
Note: Not an AK-47 as originally thought, not with the folding stock, and considering the fact that the sight was most likely hooded, it must be a Type 56-1.

:I don't think it's a Type 56. The Type 56-2 (which is the version with the side-folding stock) has a different stock design than that. The Type 56 also retains the smooth receiver cover of the older AK-47 models (as opposed to the strengthened ribbed design of the AKM), but that rifle looks like it might have a ribbed one. East German MPiKMs ''do'' have stocks that look like that and ribbed receiver covers, so I'm guessing it might be one of those. I would need to see the front sight, as well as the receiver, in better detail to figure out whether it's a Type 56.

::It's either an East German or Romanian side folding stock. It has to be an AKM, not a Type 56, because the side folding stocks don't fit on the Chinese receivers. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

[[Image:Type56S.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1]]
[[Image:Type56-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-2 (side-folding stock variant) - 7.62x39mm]]

==AKM==
:This one is a Type 56 with the "pig sticker" removed (though the front sight still has the mount for it). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::Are you sure? I thought it was an AKM because of the slanted muzzle. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:59, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

:::Plenty of Chinese Type 56s have slant muzzle breaks. Look at the picture on my user page and you can see that my own Chinese AK has one. If it has the wider .75" front sight, it's a Type 56. Also, the mounting for the pig sticker beneath the front sight is unique to the Type 56. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== AWB Poster ==
[[Image:LWAWB.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Uzi|Uzi Carbine]], [[Micro Uzi|Uzi Pistol]], [[Heckler & Koch HK94]], and an [[Heckler & Koch SP89]] are all on the poster.]]
::^BOO! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Haha lol agreed! Even though they are cops and have to deal with getting shot at every day. But still: 16 inch barrels and 15 round magazines? Come on. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 06:25, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

::::Reminds me of a poster I saw in ''[[16 Blocks]]'' showing an infant handling an M1911A1 and spouting some anti-gun statistics about the rate of children getting killed from playing with guns. I decided to exclude it from the article due to the controversy the AWB poster in this film has created. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 14:47, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, you can see that poster right next to the AWB poster in that screenshot. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 14:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I wish someone would say to them "I don't know if you know this, but there is this really cool thing called the Second Amendment!" -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::A little fun fact, despite the posters claim that "A Child a day is killed by a handgun" and other bullshit claims of the period that stated 10 children a day die from all forms a gun violence, FBI records state that less than 100 kids die from gun violence each year. A sad number yet still far below that claimed by the anti-gun groups. Apparently the gun control movement is fond of large numbers of dead children so long as it serves their goal. By the way, thank you to whoever pulled this off of the main article. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
::::::::Those AWB posters appear in all of Richard Donner's films. I guess since he makes films with lots of gun violence, those posters will make it all better. - [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The other thing you'll see in Donner's films are posters about how evil wearing fur is. He used to have posters attacking South Africa and apartheid until the goverment got rid of that policy and freed Mandella. Then those posters went away. Donner is an idiot. Or perhaps the posters are more the idea of his wife Laura. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:48, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::If I'm not mistaken, in Lethal Weapon 1, the Murtaugh's have an "end Apartheid" magnet on their refrigerator [[Special:Contributions/65.29.239.251|65.29.239.251]] 08:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::In the film ''[[Assassins]]'' an anti-NRA poster is seen several times on the side of a bus and a woman wearing a fur coat has a red circle with a line through it painted on the back. Donner is really not very subtle. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:No Donner isn't very subtle. On the LW4 dvd commentary, he says he puts those in his films to "put the message out". He also said he couldn't understand why he would get complaints from real police officers about the ban NRA posters. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:22, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::How the hell could someone make a Lethal Weapon movie while being anti-gun? The movie contradicts the AWB message. That's just silly. In a bad way.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:29, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

:::Wow, a director who sticks anti-gun posters in a movie full of shootouts and weaponry? What next, anti-car posters on an episode of Top Gear? [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
::::Or maybe a Michael Bay film without explosions? - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 21:45, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::In the commentary he said that he hated the NRA because they became political. His displeasure was due to the NRA opposing the outlawing of armor piercing ammo. However, my understanding was that the NRA opposed a poorly written law and helped write the one in place, and Donner is just an idiot who doesn't check stuff before making accusations.--[[User:Gtcsmc|Gtcsmc]] 04:50, 21 December 2011 (CST)
::::Here's a link to the NRA's explanation. [http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=25&issue=005]

I remember watching something with Danny Glover stating that the "end Apartheid" sticker on his fridge in LL1 was his idea, not a bad idea considering how broad the audience is [[Special:Contributions/174.54.108.189|174.54.108.189]] 23:56, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

== Beretta 92FS ==

I figured Martin Riggs got another Beretta 92FS for the final battle,
because he doesn't use the Laser Sight after his gun was dis-assembled.

But, I suppose it's possible to simply put the gun back together again,
Although, I doubt the gun was recovered after the House burnt down.

==AKMS==
'''[moved from main]'''--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:29, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

:This is definitely either an East German MPi-KMS, or another AKM variant fitted with the East German-style folding stock. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::Is shooting the AKMS underwater impossible? -Sdawg44
:::Well since they actually did it in the movie, I'm assuming it is. After soaking under water so long, the powder in the bullets would be too damp to fire, so they must have submerged immediately before firing the gun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Ammunition is fairly waterproof so the powder would be safe for a while. Any gun will fire once underwater but its unclear if it would fire full auto as is depicted in this movie. -[[User:sigger9mm|sigger9mm]]
:::: There is few videos of guns firing semi and full auto underwater. Although there is no AKMS among them, i found a hk416, glock, and Sphinx pistol shooting and reloading just fine. And there is a two guns constructed especially to shooting underwater based on AK, so i thin it is very possible with Ak reliability. Ripp

== Laser Grips ==

So I was just looking through a catalog of CTC laser grips, and I noticed that the laser activation button is attached to the CTC grips, specifically on the front of the butt, meaning that it seems like the only way the laser could activate is if the gun was fitted with the CTC grips, not just the activation button. So how could Riggs be using these laser grips when it is clear that his Beretta has the standard Beretta grips on them? I mean, when you look at the shot of his Beretta on the ground in Murtaugh's house, you can see the laser is attached to the grips, but you also see that it has the standard Beretta grips in the shot where Jet Li takes his gun apart. Does anyone know how this could've worked? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 00:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:Could it have been a Lasermax laser sight? The laser comes out of the same spot as it did in the movie but the activation switch is on the takedown lever therefore allowing Riggs to keep the normal grips.--[[Special:Contributions/129.89.187.78|129.89.187.78]] 21:33, 1 March 2010 (UTC) (thePotShot)

Definitely Lasermax laser device. The sight is definitely fixed under the barrel replacing the recoil guide rod. Not CTC laser grips. The light on CTC grips originate from the grips. Unless my catalog is completely wrong?
[[Image:LW92floor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
In the image above it looks the the laser is on the grips. Note the bulge on the top of the grip. But I thought CTC grips wrapped complety around the front of the frame? So maybe it's some different maker or early model. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

==Riggs' Beretta==
In the picture of the Riggs' Beretta 92FS is written that it's the same gun used in [[Die Hard 2]] and [[Die Hard with a Vengeance]], but this can't be true, because the Beretta Bruce Willis used in Die Hard was lefthanded, this one is a common righthanded. Here's the original Beretta used by Willis; http://www.originalprop.com/blog/movie-guns/die-hard/. [[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]]--[[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]] 14:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:The mag release can be swapped back to right handed and there is more than one gun used. (www.originalprop.com states that the one shown is one of four used) Here is a discussion about the DH and LW Berettas. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Talk:Beretta_92_pistol_series#Die_Hard_and_Lethal_Weapon --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Interesting, I didn't read about that. --[[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]] 19:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Firing under water? ==

Can an AK be fire under water like in the movie? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

:I just asked this very question on the Mythbusters forum. Guess we'll find out one way or another. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

::I'm no expert but I think it's like this. Firing is the easy part, cycling though, that might be a problem, but the largest problem is the density of water. Seeing as how water is (I think) 1000 times more dense than air, the bullet would only be lethal for a short distance, shorter than 5 feet(or was it yards?).--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 07:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

No problems in that scene then as the muzzle is jammed right in Jet Li's gut. I'd like to see the Mythbusters tackle some of the stories on the reliability of the AK, specifically one I heard about a Green Beret being able to chamber and fire a round without cleaning an AK that had been under a decomposing VC body in Vietnam. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 06:16, 7 April 2011 (CDT)

== Unknown Handgun ==

What was the Handgun that Lorna Cole (Rene Russo) fired during the Train scene?
in my view I believe that it isn't a Beretta.
Help?
<Repoman>

Talk:Lethal Weapon 4

2012-09-21T06:26:16Z

Repoman: /* Unknown Handgun */

That poster in the police office is insulting and stupid, as it says "All CIVILIAN assault weapons should be banned", and then shows four civilian guns that are considered "assault weapons". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Yes, take those out. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

==Type 56-1==
Note: Not an AK-47 as originally thought, not with the folding stock, and considering the fact that the sight was most likely hooded, it must be a Type 56-1.

:I don't think it's a Type 56. The Type 56-2 (which is the version with the side-folding stock) has a different stock design than that. The Type 56 also retains the smooth receiver cover of the older AK-47 models (as opposed to the strengthened ribbed design of the AKM), but that rifle looks like it might have a ribbed one. East German MPiKMs ''do'' have stocks that look like that and ribbed receiver covers, so I'm guessing it might be one of those. I would need to see the front sight, as well as the receiver, in better detail to figure out whether it's a Type 56.

::It's either an East German or Romanian side folding stock. It has to be an AKM, not a Type 56, because the side folding stocks don't fit on the Chinese receivers. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

[[Image:Type56S.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1]]
[[Image:Type56-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-2 (side-folding stock variant) - 7.62x39mm]]

==AKM==
:This one is a Type 56 with the "pig sticker" removed (though the front sight still has the mount for it). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::Are you sure? I thought it was an AKM because of the slanted muzzle. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:59, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

:::Plenty of Chinese Type 56s have slant muzzle breaks. Look at the picture on my user page and you can see that my own Chinese AK has one. If it has the wider .75" front sight, it's a Type 56. Also, the mounting for the pig sticker beneath the front sight is unique to the Type 56. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== AWB Poster ==
[[Image:LWAWB.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Uzi|Uzi Carbine]], [[Micro Uzi|Uzi Pistol]], [[Heckler & Koch HK94]], and an [[Heckler & Koch SP89]] are all on the poster.]]
::^BOO! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Haha lol agreed! Even though they are cops and have to deal with getting shot at every day. But still: 16 inch barrels and 15 round magazines? Come on. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 06:25, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

::::Reminds me of a poster I saw in ''[[16 Blocks]]'' showing an infant handling an M1911A1 and spouting some anti-gun statistics about the rate of children getting killed from playing with guns. I decided to exclude it from the article due to the controversy the AWB poster in this film has created. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 14:47, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, you can see that poster right next to the AWB poster in that screenshot. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 14:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I wish someone would say to them "I don't know if you know this, but there is this really cool thing called the Second Amendment!" -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::A little fun fact, despite the posters claim that "A Child a day is killed by a handgun" and other bullshit claims of the period that stated 10 children a day die from all forms a gun violence, FBI records state that less than 100 kids die from gun violence each year. A sad number yet still far below that claimed by the anti-gun groups. Apparently the gun control movement is fond of large numbers of dead children so long as it serves their goal. By the way, thank you to whoever pulled this off of the main article. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
::::::::Those AWB posters appear in all of Richard Donner's films. I guess since he makes films with lots of gun violence, those posters will make it all better. - [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The other thing you'll see in Donner's films are posters about how evil wearing fur is. He used to have posters attacking South Africa and apartheid until the goverment got rid of that policy and freed Mandella. Then those posters went away. Donner is an idiot. Or perhaps the posters are more the idea of his wife Laura. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:48, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::If I'm not mistaken, in Lethal Weapon 1, the Murtaugh's have an "end Apartheid" magnet on their refrigerator [[Special:Contributions/65.29.239.251|65.29.239.251]] 08:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::In the film ''[[Assassins]]'' an anti-NRA poster is seen several times on the side of a bus and a woman wearing a fur coat has a red circle with a line through it painted on the back. Donner is really not very subtle. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:No Donner isn't very subtle. On the LW4 dvd commentary, he says he puts those in his films to "put the message out". He also said he couldn't understand why he would get complaints from real police officers about the ban NRA posters. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:22, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::How the hell could someone make a Lethal Weapon movie while being anti-gun? The movie contradicts the AWB message. That's just silly. In a bad way.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:29, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

:::Wow, a director who sticks anti-gun posters in a movie full of shootouts and weaponry? What next, anti-car posters on an episode of Top Gear? [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
::::Or maybe a Michael Bay film without explosions? - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 21:45, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::In the commentary he said that he hated the NRA because they became political. His displeasure was due to the NRA opposing the outlawing of armor piercing ammo. However, my understanding was that the NRA opposed a poorly written law and helped write the one in place, and Donner is just an idiot who doesn't check stuff before making accusations.--[[User:Gtcsmc|Gtcsmc]] 04:50, 21 December 2011 (CST)
::::Here's a link to the NRA's explanation. [http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=25&issue=005]

I remember watching something with Danny Glover stating that the "end Apartheid" sticker on his fridge in LL1 was his idea, not a bad idea considering how broad the audience is [[Special:Contributions/174.54.108.189|174.54.108.189]] 23:56, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

== Beretta 92FS ==

I figured Martin Riggs got another Beretta 92FS for the final battle,
because he doesn't use the Laser Sight after his gun was dis-assembled.

But, I suppose it's possible to simply put the gun back together again,
Although, I doubt the gun was recovered after the House burnt down.

==AKMS==
'''[moved from main]'''--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:29, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

:This is definitely either an East German MPi-KMS, or another AKM variant fitted with the East German-style folding stock. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::Is shooting the AKMS underwater impossible? -Sdawg44
:::Well since they actually did it in the movie, I'm assuming it is. After soaking under water so long, the powder in the bullets would be too damp to fire, so they must have submerged immediately before firing the gun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Ammunition is fairly waterproof so the powder would be safe for a while. Any gun will fire once underwater but its unclear if it would fire full auto as is depicted in this movie. -[[User:sigger9mm|sigger9mm]]
:::: There is few videos of guns firing semi and full auto underwater. Although there is no AKMS among them, i found a hk416, glock, and Sphinx pistol shooting and reloading just fine. And there is a two guns constructed especially to shooting underwater based on AK, so i thin it is very possible with Ak reliability. Ripp

== Laser Grips ==

So I was just looking through a catalog of CTC laser grips, and I noticed that the laser activation button is attached to the CTC grips, specifically on the front of the butt, meaning that it seems like the only way the laser could activate is if the gun was fitted with the CTC grips, not just the activation button. So how could Riggs be using these laser grips when it is clear that his Beretta has the standard Beretta grips on them? I mean, when you look at the shot of his Beretta on the ground in Murtaugh's house, you can see the laser is attached to the grips, but you also see that it has the standard Beretta grips in the shot where Jet Li takes his gun apart. Does anyone know how this could've worked? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 00:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:Could it have been a Lasermax laser sight? The laser comes out of the same spot as it did in the movie but the activation switch is on the takedown lever therefore allowing Riggs to keep the normal grips.--[[Special:Contributions/129.89.187.78|129.89.187.78]] 21:33, 1 March 2010 (UTC) (thePotShot)

Definitely Lasermax laser device. The sight is definitely fixed under the barrel replacing the recoil guide rod. Not CTC laser grips. The light on CTC grips originate from the grips. Unless my catalog is completely wrong?
[[Image:LW92floor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
In the image above it looks the the laser is on the grips. Note the bulge on the top of the grip. But I thought CTC grips wrapped complety around the front of the frame? So maybe it's some different maker or early model. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

==Riggs' Beretta==
In the picture of the Riggs' Beretta 92FS is written that it's the same gun used in [[Die Hard 2]] and [[Die Hard with a Vengeance]], but this can't be true, because the Beretta Bruce Willis used in Die Hard was lefthanded, this one is a common righthanded. Here's the original Beretta used by Willis; http://www.originalprop.com/blog/movie-guns/die-hard/. [[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]]--[[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]] 14:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:The mag release can be swapped back to right handed and there is more than one gun used. (www.originalprop.com states that the one shown is one of four used) Here is a discussion about the DH and LW Berettas. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Talk:Beretta_92_pistol_series#Die_Hard_and_Lethal_Weapon --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Interesting, I didn't read about that. --[[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]] 19:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Firing under water? ==

Can an AK be fire under water like in the movie? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

:I just asked this very question on the Mythbusters forum. Guess we'll find out one way or another. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

::I'm no expert but I think it's like this. Firing is the easy part, cycling though, that might be a problem, but the largest problem is the density of water. Seeing as how water is (I think) 1000 times more dense than air, the bullet would only be lethal for a short distance, shorter than 5 feet(or was it yards?).--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 07:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

No problems in that scene then as the muzzle is jammed right in Jet Li's gut. I'd like to see the Mythbusters tackle some of the stories on the reliability of the AK, specifically one I heard about a Green Beret being able to chamber and fire a round without cleaning an AK that had been under a decomposing VC body in Vietnam. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 06:16, 7 April 2011 (CDT)

== Unknown Handgun ==

What was the Handgun that Lorna Cole (Rene Russo) fired during the Train scene?
in my view I believe that it isn't a Beretta.
Help?
Repoman

Talk:Lethal Weapon 4

2012-09-21T06:25:20Z

Repoman: /* Unknown Handgun */ new section

That poster in the police office is insulting and stupid, as it says "All CIVILIAN assault weapons should be banned", and then shows four civilian guns that are considered "assault weapons". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]

:Yes, take those out. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

==Type 56-1==
Note: Not an AK-47 as originally thought, not with the folding stock, and considering the fact that the sight was most likely hooded, it must be a Type 56-1.

:I don't think it's a Type 56. The Type 56-2 (which is the version with the side-folding stock) has a different stock design than that. The Type 56 also retains the smooth receiver cover of the older AK-47 models (as opposed to the strengthened ribbed design of the AKM), but that rifle looks like it might have a ribbed one. East German MPiKMs ''do'' have stocks that look like that and ribbed receiver covers, so I'm guessing it might be one of those. I would need to see the front sight, as well as the receiver, in better detail to figure out whether it's a Type 56.

::It's either an East German or Romanian side folding stock. It has to be an AKM, not a Type 56, because the side folding stocks don't fit on the Chinese receivers. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

[[Image:Type56S.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1]]
[[Image:Type56-2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-2 (side-folding stock variant) - 7.62x39mm]]

==AKM==
:This one is a Type 56 with the "pig sticker" removed (though the front sight still has the mount for it). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::Are you sure? I thought it was an AKM because of the slanted muzzle. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:59, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

:::Plenty of Chinese Type 56s have slant muzzle breaks. Look at the picture on my user page and you can see that my own Chinese AK has one. If it has the wider .75" front sight, it's a Type 56. Also, the mounting for the pig sticker beneath the front sight is unique to the Type 56. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]

== AWB Poster ==
[[Image:LWAWB.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Uzi|Uzi Carbine]], [[Micro Uzi|Uzi Pistol]], [[Heckler & Koch HK94]], and an [[Heckler & Koch SP89]] are all on the poster.]]
::^BOO! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Haha lol agreed! Even though they are cops and have to deal with getting shot at every day. But still: 16 inch barrels and 15 round magazines? Come on. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 06:25, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

::::Reminds me of a poster I saw in ''[[16 Blocks]]'' showing an infant handling an M1911A1 and spouting some anti-gun statistics about the rate of children getting killed from playing with guns. I decided to exclude it from the article due to the controversy the AWB poster in this film has created. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 14:47, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, you can see that poster right next to the AWB poster in that screenshot. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 14:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I wish someone would say to them "I don't know if you know this, but there is this really cool thing called the Second Amendment!" -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::A little fun fact, despite the posters claim that "A Child a day is killed by a handgun" and other bullshit claims of the period that stated 10 children a day die from all forms a gun violence, FBI records state that less than 100 kids die from gun violence each year. A sad number yet still far below that claimed by the anti-gun groups. Apparently the gun control movement is fond of large numbers of dead children so long as it serves their goal. By the way, thank you to whoever pulled this off of the main article. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
::::::::Those AWB posters appear in all of Richard Donner's films. I guess since he makes films with lots of gun violence, those posters will make it all better. - [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The other thing you'll see in Donner's films are posters about how evil wearing fur is. He used to have posters attacking South Africa and apartheid until the goverment got rid of that policy and freed Mandella. Then those posters went away. Donner is an idiot. Or perhaps the posters are more the idea of his wife Laura. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:48, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::If I'm not mistaken, in Lethal Weapon 1, the Murtaugh's have an "end Apartheid" magnet on their refrigerator [[Special:Contributions/65.29.239.251|65.29.239.251]] 08:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::In the film ''[[Assassins]]'' an anti-NRA poster is seen several times on the side of a bus and a woman wearing a fur coat has a red circle with a line through it painted on the back. Donner is really not very subtle. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
:No Donner isn't very subtle. On the LW4 dvd commentary, he says he puts those in his films to "put the message out". He also said he couldn't understand why he would get complaints from real police officers about the ban NRA posters. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 15:22, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::How the hell could someone make a Lethal Weapon movie while being anti-gun? The movie contradicts the AWB message. That's just silly. In a bad way.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:29, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

:::Wow, a director who sticks anti-gun posters in a movie full of shootouts and weaponry? What next, anti-car posters on an episode of Top Gear? [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
::::Or maybe a Michael Bay film without explosions? - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 21:45, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::In the commentary he said that he hated the NRA because they became political. His displeasure was due to the NRA opposing the outlawing of armor piercing ammo. However, my understanding was that the NRA opposed a poorly written law and helped write the one in place, and Donner is just an idiot who doesn't check stuff before making accusations.--[[User:Gtcsmc|Gtcsmc]] 04:50, 21 December 2011 (CST)
::::Here's a link to the NRA's explanation. [http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=25&issue=005]

I remember watching something with Danny Glover stating that the "end Apartheid" sticker on his fridge in LL1 was his idea, not a bad idea considering how broad the audience is [[Special:Contributions/174.54.108.189|174.54.108.189]] 23:56, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

== Beretta 92FS ==

I figured Martin Riggs got another Beretta 92FS for the final battle,
because he doesn't use the Laser Sight after his gun was dis-assembled.

But, I suppose it's possible to simply put the gun back together again,
Although, I doubt the gun was recovered after the House burnt down.

==AKMS==
'''[moved from main]'''--[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:29, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

:This is definitely either an East German MPi-KMS, or another AKM variant fitted with the East German-style folding stock. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
::Is shooting the AKMS underwater impossible? -Sdawg44
:::Well since they actually did it in the movie, I'm assuming it is. After soaking under water so long, the powder in the bullets would be too damp to fire, so they must have submerged immediately before firing the gun. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
:::Ammunition is fairly waterproof so the powder would be safe for a while. Any gun will fire once underwater but its unclear if it would fire full auto as is depicted in this movie. -[[User:sigger9mm|sigger9mm]]
:::: There is few videos of guns firing semi and full auto underwater. Although there is no AKMS among them, i found a hk416, glock, and Sphinx pistol shooting and reloading just fine. And there is a two guns constructed especially to shooting underwater based on AK, so i thin it is very possible with Ak reliability. Ripp

== Laser Grips ==

So I was just looking through a catalog of CTC laser grips, and I noticed that the laser activation button is attached to the CTC grips, specifically on the front of the butt, meaning that it seems like the only way the laser could activate is if the gun was fitted with the CTC grips, not just the activation button. So how could Riggs be using these laser grips when it is clear that his Beretta has the standard Beretta grips on them? I mean, when you look at the shot of his Beretta on the ground in Murtaugh's house, you can see the laser is attached to the grips, but you also see that it has the standard Beretta grips in the shot where Jet Li takes his gun apart. Does anyone know how this could've worked? -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 00:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:Could it have been a Lasermax laser sight? The laser comes out of the same spot as it did in the movie but the activation switch is on the takedown lever therefore allowing Riggs to keep the normal grips.--[[Special:Contributions/129.89.187.78|129.89.187.78]] 21:33, 1 March 2010 (UTC) (thePotShot)

Definitely Lasermax laser device. The sight is definitely fixed under the barrel replacing the recoil guide rod. Not CTC laser grips. The light on CTC grips originate from the grips. Unless my catalog is completely wrong?
[[Image:LW92floor.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
In the image above it looks the the laser is on the grips. Note the bulge on the top of the grip. But I thought CTC grips wrapped complety around the front of the frame? So maybe it's some different maker or early model. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 19:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

==Riggs' Beretta==
In the picture of the Riggs' Beretta 92FS is written that it's the same gun used in [[Die Hard 2]] and [[Die Hard with a Vengeance]], but this can't be true, because the Beretta Bruce Willis used in Die Hard was lefthanded, this one is a common righthanded. Here's the original Beretta used by Willis; http://www.originalprop.com/blog/movie-guns/die-hard/. [[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]]--[[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]] 14:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:The mag release can be swapped back to right handed and there is more than one gun used. (www.originalprop.com states that the one shown is one of four used) Here is a discussion about the DH and LW Berettas. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Talk:Beretta_92_pistol_series#Die_Hard_and_Lethal_Weapon --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Interesting, I didn't read about that. --[[User:Funzi159|Funzi159]] 19:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Firing under water? ==

Can an AK be fire under water like in the movie? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]

:I just asked this very question on the Mythbusters forum. Guess we'll find out one way or another. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 07:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

::I'm no expert but I think it's like this. Firing is the easy part, cycling though, that might be a problem, but the largest problem is the density of water. Seeing as how water is (I think) 1000 times more dense than air, the bullet would only be lethal for a short distance, shorter than 5 feet(or was it yards?).--[[User:Mr-Jigsaw|Mr-Jigsaw]] 07:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

No problems in that scene then as the muzzle is jammed right in Jet Li's gut. I'd like to see the Mythbusters tackle some of the stories on the reliability of the AK, specifically one I heard about a Green Beret being able to chamber and fire a round without cleaning an AK that had been under a decomposing VC body in Vietnam. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 06:16, 7 April 2011 (CDT)

== Unknown Handgun ==

What was te Handgun that Lorna Cole (Rene Russo) fired during the Train scene?
in my view I believe that it isn't a Beretta.
Help?

The Mummy (1999)

2012-08-04T00:40:33Z

Repoman: /* Winchester Model 1897 */

{{Film Title|The Mummy}}
[[Image:Mummy_Poster.jpg|right|thumb|300px|The Mummy (1999)]]
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==Pistols==
=== Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 ===

Rick O'Connell ([[Brendon Fraser]]) uses a pair of [[Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873]] revolvers throughout the film. During the fight in Hamunaptra, Jonathan ([[John Hannah]]) grabs them out of Rick's shoulder holsters and fires them at Imhotep's mummified priests.

Rick often wields them akimbo style and has an unique way of loading them by spinning the cylinders. Maybe if the ejector rod has been pulled back and the loading gate is open, all he has to do is to point the loading gate downwards,using the force of gravity and cylinder spinning to make sure all cartridges are ejected.

[[Image:Chamelot-Delvigne-Model-1873A.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873 Revolver - 11 x 17R mm]]
[[Image:TM_Chamelot-Delvigne2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rick preparing his [[Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873]] revolvers]]
[[Image:TM_Chamelot-Delvigne.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of Rick's [[Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873]] revolvers]]

=== Colt M1917 ===

Beni Gabor ([[Kevin J. O'Connor]]) uses a [[M1917 Revolver#|Colt New Service]], while Mr. Daniels ([[Corey Johnson]]) carries and uses two of the revolvers.

[[Image:ColtNewService1917.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[M1917 Revolver#|Colt New Service]] Revolver - .45 ACP. The Army would adopt its own version of the New Service, called the Colt M1917, with plain wooden grips and a lanyard ring]]

[[Image:Colt-Beny.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Beni ([[Kevin J. O'Connor]]) with his Colt New Service]]

[[Image:TM_M1917.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mr. Daniels ([[Corey Johnson]]) firing his [[M1917 Revolver#|Colt New Service]] revolvers]]

=== Colt M1911 ===

In the beginning of the film, Rick O'Connell ([[Brendan Fraser]]) and Jonathan 'Jon' Carnahan ([[John Hannah]]), among other weapons, uses a Colt [[M1911]]s to battle the attacking Tuaregs. Rick also uses a [[M1911]] later in the film, most notably preparing it on the boat to Hamunaptra. Also one of the American treasure hunters, Mr. Burns ([[Tuc Watkins]]), is seen using a Colt M1911. It should be noted that the screen gun used is a period authentic pre-1924 M1911, not an M1911A1 (noted by the lack of a curved mainspring housing and no relief cuts around the trigger guard on the frame. Also, the grip safety spur is shorter than on the A1 while the actual trigger itself is longer). This is a rare case of Hollywood getting something right.
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Original Colt M1911 (dated 1913) - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:TM_1911.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rick's Colt M1911 laying in the sand]]
[[Image:TM_1911_2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) with his Colt M1911]]
[[Image:JH-TM-1911-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jonathan ([[John Hannah]]) holds a Colt M1911]]

=== Colt Single Action Army ===

Mr. Henderson ([[Stephen Dunham]]) uses a [[Colt Single Action Army]]. Mr. Daniels is briefly seen with one when they enter the museum after Burns' death.

[[Image:ColtSingleActionArmy.jpg|thumb|none|450px|[[Colt Single Action Army]] w/ 5" barrel known as the "Artillery" model - .45 LC. The most common of the SAA revolvers as it is just the right length]]
[[Image:TM_SAA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mr. Henderson ([[Stephen Dunham]]) with his Colt SAA]]

=== Mauser C96 ===
Many of the Medjai who attack the boat to Hamunaptra are armed with dual [[Mauser C96]]s.

[[Image:Mauser_c96_bolo.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser C96 - 7.63x25mm Mauser]]
[[Image:TM_Mauser.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Medjai is shot while firing his Mauser C96's]]

=== Remington Model 95 Double Derringer ===

Jonathan ([[John Hannah]]) uses a [[Remington 1866 Derringer]].
[[Image:Remington1866Type4.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Remington 1866 Derringer - .41 R.F. Caliber]]
[[Image:Confrontation.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Jonathan with his pistol]]

=== Webley Mk.V ===

Burns ([[Tuc Watkins]]) uses a [[Webley Mk V]] revolver.

[[Image:Webley_MKV.gif‎|thumb|none|450px|Webley Mk.V revolver - .455 British]]
[[Image:Webley_TM.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|Burns ([[Tuc Watkins]]) reloading his revolver]]

==Rifles==
=== Lebel M1886 ===
In the beginning of the film, Rick O'Connell ([[Brendon Fraser]]), Beni Gabor ([[Kevin J. O'Connor]]) and the other members of The French Foreign Legion use [[Lebel 1886|French Lebel Rifles]]. There was a problem with these rifles in the movie, normally they hold eight rounds but the ones used in this movie fired a single round then had to be reloaded after each shot (Fraser does this several times during the course of the opening scene). Though all Lebels are eight-shot rifles, the loading process is so slow that it is often easier to fire one round at a time.

Another possible explanation is that it was not uncommon for rifles of the period to have a magazine cut-off. The Lebel is so equipped (as is the Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III, Springfield M1903, and Krag-Jorgenson rifles and carbines). Furthermore, the soldiers of the time were typically trained to chamber individual rounds during the bulk of the fighting, utilizing this magazine cutoff, and maintaining the magazine as a reserve of ammunition. This would have been exceptionally useful on a Lebel, as was pointed out before, it is not an easy rifle to load under pressure. The Lebel actually uses a tube magazine, like that of a Remington-Keene.

[[Image:Modele1886Lebel.jpg|thumb|none|450px|French Lebel M1886 Rifle - 8x50mm Lebel]]
[[Image:TM_Lebel.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rick holding a French Lebel Rifle]]

=== Lee-Enfield No.1 MkIII* ===

The Lee-Enfield rifle was extensively used in the film in the hands of British soldiers, the Arabs attacking the French Foreign Legion in the beginning of the film, and in the hands of the Medjai.

[[Image:SMLE.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III* - .303 British. This was the main battle rifle of British and Commonwealth forces during the First World War, introduced in 1907 it has seen action throughout the 20th century]]
[[Image:Lee_M.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|British Soldiers with Lee-Enfield rifle]]

=== Mauser Karabiner 98k ===
The Tuaregs attacking The French Foreign Legion in the beginning of the film are seen using a variety of different manufactured Mauser rifles from different countries. Visible are some M1903 Turkish Mauser and some (anachronistic) M1938 and M38/46 Short Rifles. Some of the Berber Horsemen are seen holding Mauser Karabiner 98 (98K) rifles, which is clearly anachronistic, since the 98Ks were not developed until 1935, but it might be the older WWI version.
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[Image:TM_M48.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Tuareg horseman armed with a Turkish Mauser on horseback]]

==Shotguns==
=== Winchester Model 1897 ===
Rick O'Connell ([[Brendan Fraser]]) uses a [[Winchester Model 1897]] shotgun throughout the film, later given to Ardeth Bay ([[Oded Fehr]]) to hold off the Mummy's priests.

While watching closely, I noticed what looks like a zip-tie around the barrel, right before the grip. Movie mistake?
Nope. that's because the shotgun was disassembled

[[Image:WinchesterM1897.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester Model 1897 Riot Gun - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:TM_Winchester.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) preparing his Winchester 1897]]
[[Image:RW-TM-Winchester.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Evie ([[Rachel Weisz]]) by shoot of Rick´s shotgun fell one of the riders.]]
[[Image:TM_Winchester2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rick armed with his Winchester 1897]]
[[Image:Mummy-Shotgun1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Screen Used M1897 Shotgun]]

==Machine Guns==
=== Lewis ===

Rick O'Connell ([[Brendan Fraser]]) uses a [[Lewis gun]] mounted on an airplane to shoot at the face of the sandstorm that Imhotep ([[Arnold Vosloo]]) creates. When the airplane crashes, Ardeth Bey ([[Oded Fehr]]) unmounts the gun, and uses it against Imhotep's mummified priests in Hamunaptra.

[[Image:Rafmachinegunlewis3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Aircraft-mounted Lewis Gun - .303 British]]
[[Image:PDVD_081.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rick on the Mounted Lewis Machine Gun]]
[[Image:TM_Mk.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ardeth Bey unmounts the Lewis Gun]]

==Other==
=== Dynamite Stick ===
Rick O 'Connell ([[Brendan Fraser]]) can be seen using the sticks of dynamite in a few battles.
[[Image:Dynamite_Mummy.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Rick with dynamite stick.]]

=== Unidentified Revolver ===
The Prison Warden ([[Omid Djalili]]) pulls out an unidentified revolver during the brief standoff with the Americans in Hamunaptra.

==O'Connell's Arsenal==

Rick has a backpack with weapons. It consists of:
* One [[Colt M1911A1]] pistol.
* Two [[Chamelot-Delvigne Model 1873]] revolvers.
* One [[Winchester Model 1897]] shotgun in disassembled condition.
* One knife.
* One balisong.
* Two bandolier's with shotgun ammo.
* Dynamite sticks.

[[Image:TM_-_Arsenal.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Weapon's backpack]]

==See Also==

'''The Mummy Series'''

*''[[The Mummy]]''
*''[[The Mummy Returns]]''
*''[[Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor, The|Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor]]''

'''Videogame'''
*''[[Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor, The (VG)|The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor (video game)]]''

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Fantasy]]
[[Category:Adventure Movie]]
[[Category: Horror]]

The Mummy Returns

2012-08-01T20:03:33Z

Repoman: /* Winchester Model 1887 */

'''The following guns were used in the film ''The Mummy Returns'':'''
[[Image:Mummy_Returns-Poster.jpg|300px|thumb|right|''The Mummy Returns'' (2001)]]
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== Pistols ==
=== Luger P08 ===

A pistol used by the cultists is the [[Luger P08]]. It is most notably seen in the firefight that ensues after Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) rescues Evie ([[Rachel Weisz]]).
[[Image:P08Luger1917.jpg|300px|thumb|none|P08 Luger Pistol - 9x19mm Para]]
[[Image:TMR_Luger.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Shafek ([[Quill Roberts]]) fires a [[Luger P08]]]]

=== Mauser C96 ===
During the firefight that results after Rick saves Evie, Lock-Nah ([[Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje]]) grabs a pair of [[Mauser C96]]s and uses them to fire at Ardeth Bay ([[Oded Fehr]]).
[[Image:Mauser_c96_bolo.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mauser C96 Short Barreled "Bolo" Model - 7.63x25mm Mauser]]
[[Image:TMR_Mauser.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Lock-Nah unloads twin [[Mauser C96]]s.]]
[[Image:TMR_Mauser2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|A better shot of Lock-Nah's [[Mauser C96]]s.]]

=== Colt M1911A1 ===

Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) carries two [[M1911 pistol#M1911A1|M1911A1]]s throughout the film. He also hands one of his pistols to Evie ([[Rachel Weisz]]) during the firefight at the museum. If you watch closely it can be noted that she fires the gun even after the slide has locked back.

[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Evie_with_Colt_M1911.jpg|thumb|300px|none|A publicity image of [[Rachel Weisz]] as Evie holding the Colt M1911A1.]]
[[Image:TMR_1911.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Rick hands Evie one of his [[M1911 pistol#M1911A1|M1911A1's]].]]

=== Smith & Wesson Military & Police ===

Red ([[Bruce Byron]]), one of the mercenaries, carries a [[Smith & Wesson Military & Police]] with a 4" barrel.
[[Image:Swvctryr.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Smith & Wesson Military And Police - .38 Special]]
[[Image:TMR_Revolver.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Red ([[Bruce Byron]]) with his Smith & Wesson Military And Police]]

===FN Hi-Power===

Red ([[Bruce Byron]]), one of the mercenaries, carries an anachronistic [[Browning Hi-Power|FN Hi-Power]]. The earliest version is the P-35. Since the film takes place in 1933, the pistol is several years too early to be seen in the belt of a lowly mercenary.

[[Image:Browning HP West German Police.jpg|thumb|none|450px|FN Hi-Power - 9x19mm Para]]
[[Image:TMR_-_FN_Hi-Power.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Red's ([[Bruce Byron]]) FN Hi-Power]]

=== Smith & Wesson "Triple Lock" ===

Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) carries a [[Smith & Wesson 44 Hand Ejector Series#44 Smith & Wesson 1ST Model "Triple Lock" (1907-1915)|Smith & Wesson "Triple Lock"]] in an early scene.
[[Image:Smith_and_Wesson_Hand_Ejector_1845.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Smith & Wesson New Century Hand Ejector - courtesy of Adams Guns - .44 S&W Special]]
[[Image:TMR_Revolver2.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Rick with a Smith & Wesson New Century Hand Ejector.]]

=== Webley Mk.V ===
Jacques ([[Joe Dixon]]) and Spivey ([[Tom Fisher]]), two mercenaries, carries a Webley Mk.V with a long 6" barrel as sold to British army officers.
[[Image:Webley_MKV.gif|thumb|450px|none|Webley Mk.V - .455 British]]
[[Image:TMR_Revolver3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Jacques ([[Joe Dixon]]) with a Webley Mk.V]]
[[Image:TMR - Webley.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Spivey's ([[Tom Fisher]]) two Webley Mk.V's]]

== Shotguns ==
=== Winchester Model 1887 ===
One of the main weapons Rick O'Connell ([[Brendan Fraser]]) uses throughout the film is a [[Winchester Model 1887]] shotgun.
Evelyn was also seen using the shotgun in the bus scene
[[Image:M1887_Airsoft.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Replica Winchester Model 1887 with sawed-off stock and barrel as used in Terminator 2: Judgement Day - 12 gauge]]‎
[[Image:Themummy17.jpg|thumb|200px|none|A publicity image of [[Brendan Fraser]] as Rick with his [[Winchester Model 1887]].]]
[[Image:TMR_Winchester.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Rick fires his [[Winchester Model 1887]] during the bus chase.]]

=== Sawn-Off Double Barrel Shotgun ===

Rick carries a sawn-off double barrel shotgun on his back.
[[Image:SBS-Shotgun ManOnFire.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Sawed Off shotgun - 12 gauge]]‎
[[Image:TMR_Shotgun.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Rick with a Sawn-Off Double Barrel Shotgun next to Ardeth Bay - 12 gauge]]
[[Image:Arsenal_TMR_2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Sawn-off double barrel shotgun in the back of Rick's Car]]

== Submachine Guns ==
=== Steyr-Solothurn S1-100 ===

Many of the cultists assisting Imhotep ([[Arnold Vosloo]]) throughout the film use Haenel-Steyr-Solothurn S1-100 Submachine guns. During the gunfight in the Museum basement, Lock-Nah tosses one to Meela ([[Patricia Velasquez]]), who fires it at Ardeth Bay.
[[Image:SteyrMP34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Steyr-Solothurn S1-100/MP34 submachine gun - 9x19mm Para]]
[[Image:TMR_Lanchester.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Cultist fires a Solothurn S1-100 Submachine gun]]

=== M1928 Thompson ===
Ardeth Bay ([[Oded Fehr]]) uses an [[M1928 Thompson]] throughout the film.
[[Image:M1928.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M1928 "Tommy Gun" .45 ACP with 50-round drum magazine, made famous through countless classic gangster movies - .45 ACP]]
[[Image:TMR_Thompson.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ardeth reloads his [[Thompson M1928]]]]
[[Image:TMR_Thompson2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ardeth with his [[M1928 Thompson]] behind Evie ([[Rachel Weisz]])]]

== Rifles ==
=== Lebel 1886 Rifle ===
The [[Lebel 1886]] rifle is seen in the hands of cultists, notably in the jungle created around the pyramid.

[[Image:Modele1886Lebel.jpg|thumb|none|450px|French Lebel M1886 Rifle - 8x50mm Lebel]]
[[Image:Lebel-mummy2.jpg‎|thumb|none|601px|Cultist is armed with the Lebel M1886]]

=== Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE) ===

The [[Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE)]] appears frequently among the cultists en-route to Ahm Shere, one of them being used by Lock-Nah ([[Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje]]) to kill the falcon Ardeth Bay had been using to communicate with other members of the Medjai.

[[Image:SMLE.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.III* - .303 British. This was the main battle rifle of British and Commonwealth forces during the First World War, introduced in 1907 it has seen action throughout the 20th century]]
[[Image:TMR_SMLE.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Lock-Nah ([[Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje]]) takes aim with a [[Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE)]]]]

=== Lee Enfield Mk.I* ===

During the Pygmy mummy attack in Ahm Shere, Jonathan ([[John Hannah]]) covers Rick ([[Brendan Fraser]]) and Ardeth Bay ([[Oded Fehr]]) with a Boer-war era [[ Lee-Enfield]].
[[Image:LEMkI.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Lee-Enfield Mk.I - .303 British. In service between 1896-1907]]
[[Image:TMR_Mosin.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Jonathan ([[John Hannah]]) arms himself with a Boer War-era [[Lee-Enfield]].]]

=== BSA Lee-Speed Sporter Rifle ===

Evie ([[Rachel Weisz]]) uses a [[Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE)|BSA Lee-Speed Sporter Rifle]] with scope, similar with [[Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE)|L39A1]]. See ''[[The Ghost and the Darkness]]''.
[[Image:BSA2flat.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Lee-Speed Sporter Rifle - .303 British]]
[[Image:TMR_Sniper.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Evie ([[Rachel Weisz]]) with a [[Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE)|BSA Lee-Speed Sporter rifle]]]]

== Other ==
=== M2 Flamethrower ===

During the scene where the cultist are excavating Imhotep ([[Arnold Vosloo]]) in Hamunaptra, a pair of cultist can be seen using [[M2 Flamethrower]]s to fend off the flesh-eating scarabs that are unleashed on several unluckly diggers.
[[Image:M2-2FlameAth.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M2-2 Flamethrower]]
[[Image:TMR_Flamethrower.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A cultist fends off flesh-eating scarabs with an [[M2 Flamethrower]]]]

==O'Connell's Arsenal==

Rick has a box with weapons in his car trunk. It consists of:
* One [[Thompson|M1928 Thompson]] submachine gun.
* Two [[Colt M1911A1]] pistols.
* Two [[Smith & Wesson Mk II Hand Ejector|Smith & Wesson "Triple Lock"]] revolvers.
* One [[Winchester Model 1887]] shotgun.
* One [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun|Sawed-Off Shotgun]].
* One knife.
* One balisong.
* One bandolier with shotgun ammo.
* One bandolier with rifle ammo.

[[Image:Arsenal_TMR_1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Weapon box]]
[[Image:Arsenal_TMR_2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Winchester Model 1887, Sawed-Off Shotgun, two Colt's M1911A1, Smith & Wesson "Triple Lock"]]
[[Image:Arsenal_TMR_3.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Thompson M1928, Smith & Wesson "Triple Lock", knife, balisong, bandolier with rifle ammo]]

==See Also==

'''The Mummy Series'''

*''[[The Mummy]]''
*''[[The Mummy Returns]]''
*''[[Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor, The|Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor]]''

'''Videogame'''
*''[[Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor, The (VG)|The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor (video game)]]''

[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Fantasy]]
[[Category:Adventure Movie]]

Talk:The Andy Griffith Show

2012-07-20T02:03:13Z

Repoman: Created page with "Weren't there rifles such as the winchester? Andy did use one, but this model is unknown, also there was a double barrel shotgun seen welded by Andy, somwhat it belongs to gomer."

Weren't there rifles such as the winchester? Andy did use one, but this model is unknown, also there was a double barrel shotgun seen welded by Andy, somwhat it belongs to gomer.